Open Thread – Tues 4 Jan 2022


The Rape of Europa, Francisco de Goya, 1772

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Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 4, 2022 12:04 am

First!?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 4, 2022 12:12 am

Gosh, umm, I’d like to thank the Academy, the director, the lighting technicians….

At the outset, probably this Open Thread will be about:
* return-to-work blues.
* baseless speculation about ScoMo cancelling the federal election because of covid.
* continuations of Bird-watching at the Furniture Factory.
* arguments over who would win in a fight between a prickly pear and a cane toad.
* covid, covid, and more covid.

Bruce
Bruce
January 4, 2022 12:20 am

A sobering little bit of video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkN8ITLqng4

The numbers are staggering.

However, just keep in mind that what went on in Stalin’s reign as the Red Czar, and the brutal, murderous regime of the Maoist Chinese, not to forget the unspeakable “pure” socialists of the Khmer Rouge.

Also keep in mind that ripping off the scabs of all these death cults, (nazis excepted), is increasingly subject to “disapproval”. Then, ask yourself; WHY is this so?

Pogria
Pogria
January 4, 2022 12:22 am

Damn! I was hoping for Irma la Deuce!

Oh well, quattro will do.

Pogria
Pogria
January 4, 2022 12:29 am

Good to see Obama’s speechwriter has settled into her new gig comfortably here in Oz.

Easy job though. All I, I, I, I, I, me, me, me, me, me, my, my, my, my, mine, mine, mine, mine.

I wonder if the Teleprompter will also find work.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 4, 2022 12:37 am

Colonel Crispin Berka says:
January 4, 2022 at 12:12 am
At the outset, probably this Open Thread will be about:
* return-to-work blues.
* baseless speculation about ScoMo cancelling the federal election because of covid.

No way Scummo would cancel the election – but he would have it on-line, like the recent Census (which was a great success).

We may then see Scummo & Co returned with 130% of the vote.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 4, 2022 12:41 am

New fred smells… 🙂

Bird has gone to bed. And probably just as well.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 4, 2022 12:46 am

I wonder if National Cabinet will also ask for an inquiry into ALL cases since the pandemic started?

Scott Morrison will push state and territory leaders to reconsider how they record Covid-19 hospitalisations, with many people admitted for other illnesses and only 51 infected patients on ventilators nationwide. (The Australian)

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 12:53 am

Sleeeeep…

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 1:00 am

Ferkin gherkin insomnia.
(Any expectation to write something wise & witty is patriarchal, colonialist oppression. Respect mah victim’ood!).

Bruce in WA
January 4, 2022 1:02 am

Early. Tired.

Bored shitless.

Nigh-night!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 4, 2022 1:03 am

Cockroaches gone beddy-byes an hour ago.
Now midnight in Queensland, online banana bending is over for the day.
Handing the thread controls over to sandgroper contingent. Bring it back tomorrow with a full tank, yeah?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 4, 2022 1:10 am

Buggrit- 3 public holidays (as it were) in a row is enough.

Working for the 4th one tomorrow.

‘Night, Cats.

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 1:20 am

Who was the first shagger to come with counting sheep as a solution for insomnia? It’s not working for me, cos not only is it dark, so I can’t see them to count, but they won’t shut up, so I’m becoming even more irritated. Plus I’m living in suburbia & my dog is glaring at me as if to say “You’re far too big to be sitting on my kennel, & why are you making sheep sounds?”
*Sigh* Lives of the functional & successful, huh?

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 1:25 am

Maybe some warm yak’s milk will help.

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 1:30 am

Yep, thought so.
Might even put it in a mug next time.

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 1:44 am

Yeah, but nah, but nah.
Still here.
Still nothin to write, but nothin’s gonna stop me from writin nothin.
I’m pretty confident that’s a liberty quote.

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 1:49 am

Is it just me who thinks it’s only a matter of time before we see an alien lifeform burst from the abdomen of an Australian politician or senior public servant (or j’ismist) on live TV?

The vital question, of course, will be ‘Was that A.L.F. vaccinated?’

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 1:57 am

It’s a lotta pressure trying to entertain you people.
It’s worth it though.
I can feel my self-esteem rising.
Wait.
Sorry, that’s just reflux.

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 2:10 am

I have a bucket of grotty old dog toys. That’s the solid basis for a new political party.
Who’s with me?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 2:17 am

Saw a few seconds of SloMo on Koch-heads breakfast program. He looked and sounded ridiculous. Better start mentally preparing for PM Albo. The silver lining is that Plibbers will probably never take up residence at the Lodge.

I will qualify this by saying it was the ALPBC and necessary warnings (barbecued refugees. May not have happened) should be applied.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 2:24 am

We may see k d wrong back in the Chairman’s Lounge as Foreign Minister. That should help when we go to war against China. Or look slightly incongruous.

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 2:30 am

So many infections to choose from, Bear. We really are spoiled, aren’t we?

Slap some lippy on it & you’ll find someone happy to throw away their vote on a tropical ulcer.

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 2:48 am

Can I eunuch ascent anti-cross my own comments? What’s the protocol here?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 2:50 am

Best to ensure you wake up on Sunday morning with a hangover. That way the result is the least of your worries (at least for those of us of a certain age).

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 2:56 am

Muddy – give yourself a dickless uptick. Feel free to launch into a series of monologues about how you have been grievously wronged and will be spending less time here in future. Repeat. And repeat.

I’ll leave you to it.

rosie
rosie
January 4, 2022 3:23 am

Looks like I should stay in Italy for 14 days before sneaking into France.
What a bother covid restrictions are.
Even though cases are exploding in Italy it’s a safe ‘green zone’ to enter France, no covid test required. If travelling from Australia, also green triple antigen is needed. Still not clear what, if anything I need to do to travel to Sardinia.
I will, no doubt, find out.

Tom
Tom
January 4, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
January 4, 2022 4:01 am

Mark Knight classic.

Tom
Tom
January 4, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
January 4, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
January 4, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
January 4, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
January 4, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
January 4, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
January 4, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
January 4, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
January 4, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
January 4, 2022 4:12 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
January 4, 2022 5:20 am

Thank you Tom

min
min
January 4, 2022 5:36 am

Thanks Tom for the morning laugh but it’s harder to get these days

Pogria
Pogria
January 4, 2022 5:37 am

Hey Muddy,
I would have stayed for a chat if I had known there was another insomniac in front of the screen. No one posted for ages, so I went and watched South Park for a couple of hours then dozed off.
I hope you gave the dog his house back.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 6:22 am

Pogria. You, you, you, you, you. And some more you. Biden speechwriter.
That’s about as sensible as your comment above presumably directed at me.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 6:33 am

At the end of the old OT Grigs put together a series of my comments out of context as part of his long-standing trolling of me.

At an earlier stage in his managerial career ABC TV did a similar sort of hit job on Hairy, splicing together footage and interview material he had granted them to create their usual fakery around any issue where they thought they could gain leftist traction by an attempt to destroy someone’s credibility. He never allowed such a thing to happen again. He may have been lulled because when he was still a Labor man they had done a much gentler piece on him. Not so this time though, when they went for blood. Hairy is not a politician but we here know this mode in their politics very well.

Great work to see 47 uptickers of a troll do better here than the ABC in the same mode.

johanna
johanna
January 4, 2022 6:35 am

I’m as bored as everyone else with Lizzie’s self-regarding monologues, but draw the line at ignoring outright lies:

I have never identified Hairy as the author of comments on Quadrant.
Johanna did that all by her little investigative nosey self. Then she published his name on the Cat till Sinc removed it.

Add to the bulging file labelled “Things that never happened/Lizzie.”

I never published his name, and AFAIK nor did anyone else. I merely pointed out that she herself had doxxed him.

Bons
January 4, 2022 6:36 am

I thought that the ABC gave their victims a four week break this time of year.
Not so apparently. 7:30 was on in the background at the place I was at last night.
Full blown illogical Covid disaster porn. A queue of non-entity experts. Morrisson’s plea to end the stupid was, of course, drop kicked.
It appears that they have given up on lockdowns as the preferred tool of repression. The new game is testing.
Covid passports are no longer enough. “Show me your test result”. Love is a test kit in every handbag. “No test result, no lollipop” is the new ABC screech.
It will never end.

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 6:40 am

Morrisson’s plea to end the stupid was, of course, drop kicked.

If you start “the stupid”, no good whining for it to end. Commenters here saw the result of the National Cabinet 18 months ago. No doubt others, closer to him, did too. He can’t pretend he wasn’t warned.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
January 4, 2022 6:44 am

Love is a test kit in every handbag. “No test result, no lollipop” is the new ABC screech.

Paid for by other people’s money, of course.

sfw
sfw
January 4, 2022 6:44 am

Goats may eat blackberry down to the dirt but the roots remain, next spring the place will be covered in blacberry again. There is only one solution for anything more than the odd isolated small plant. Herbicide.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
January 4, 2022 6:46 am

oops, apostrophe in the wrong spot, the ABC doesn’t want one person to pay for it, they want lots of people to pay for their peace of mind.

WolfmanOz
January 4, 2022 6:48 am

Very happy this morning ! ! !

My beloved Wolves won at Old Trafford for the first time in 42 years beating Man Utd 1-0.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 6:51 am

Thanks for your updates on travel requirements during Covid, Rosie. It can help with future planning for some here to get a handle on likely problems. We are concluding a booking today for travel to the UK at the end of April for five weeks.

Oh, and thanks too to Franx for your kind words on the OT yesterday about my recent publication. Here I am sorry to say it is likely to be very subject to complete misapprehension about its intent; but here thankfully is not the rest of the world.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 7:00 am

I have suggested to friends that my piece is best read as it is presented on Quadrant’s front page – as part of a thematically-linked trio. Patrick Parkinson’s piece on UN policy regarding marriage is a good precursor to my experiential exposition and Gary Furnell’s essay on the good sense found in the marital politics in Jane Austen’s work is precursed by a belief that young people don’t read Austen much anymore.

I think there is some resurgence of interest by young women in Austen’s sensibilities and good sense.
Ellie Dashwood’s cute little blog puts paid to the idea that Austen in the minds of the young is just for old fogies. She makes it alive and explicable to da yoof who read Austen and watch in droves. This old fogey really enjoys it too (while knowing the Regency period quite well already).

Dot
Dot
January 4, 2022 7:07 am

She makes it alive and explicable to da yoof who read Austen and watch in droves.

Not only is that a vision of hell, society is getting dumber, good luck finding someone who reads and isn’t a leftist twat who thinks they are literally Hermione Granger.

Gabor
Gabor
January 4, 2022 7:14 am

johanna says:
January 4, 2022 at 6:35 am

I wish all of this would just go away.
No offense E B but you ask for privacy and at the same time giving out your daughters place of work and status. That is a public co. wouldn’t take too long to find her details, would one be that way inclined.

Just let it be.

Mater
January 4, 2022 7:17 am

It appears that they have given up on lockdowns as the preferred tool of repression. The new game is testing.

So the vaccinations ‘didn’t do shit’?
Everyone will need to lick a plastic stick before entry, regardless of the green tick?
Who’d have thought that it was about continued control and compliance.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 7:29 am

I never published his name

Sinclair would disagree. And that is the end of the matter.

bespoke
bespoke
January 4, 2022 7:31 am

sfwsays:
January 4, 2022 at 6:44 am
Goats may eat blackberry down to the dirt but the roots remain, next spring the place will be covered in blacberry again. There is only one solution for anything more than the odd isolated small plant. Herbicide.

Yep is how plants spread.

bespoke
bespoke
January 4, 2022 7:32 am

this is

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 7:41 am

No offense E B but you ask for privacy and at the same time giving out your daughters place of work and status.

Deliberately released, Gabor, just to show up those who would pursue such things.
Don’t take me too seriously. 🙂

I care far less about being doxxed these days although when it really counted I cared a lot, and Hairy just laughs at Catallaxy’s puny ’50’ now. In truth, there are so many young women circulating in the higher echelons of the Big Four these days and they change their names too with marriage, making further tracing a herculean job for what, for any chaser here, would be a minor reward. Marriage, btw, and a hugely expensive wedding (tell me about it) is resurgently popular amongst Australia’s middle class young women, who have seen an older tribe of career girls left childless on the shelf.

Marriage is still much decried however amongst those still living in an urban bugman bubble, or in the drug-ridden unclass that is a sadest legacy of the boomer laissez-faire ‘youthquake’ I wrote about.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 7:43 am

that’s ‘underclass’ not ‘unclass’.

Gabor
Gabor
January 4, 2022 7:59 am

Catallaxy’s puny ’50’ now

Active contributors even on Sinc’s Cat were only relatively few.
But they sure post a lot.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 4, 2022 8:08 am

If I stay up really, really late…….

I may be able to have the last word.

Dot
Dot
January 4, 2022 8:09 am

From the Age.

Family lawyers brace for influx of post-lockdown separations

Gentleman, start your money catching nets!

Family Law ought to be through collaborative practice. No court, clean breaks, lower fees and more matters dealt with.

Dot
Dot
January 4, 2022 8:12 am

. In truth, there are so many young women circulating in the higher echelons of the Big Four these days

A lot of them have bullshit jobs.

Deloitte has some absurd titles for a firm that can do good forecasting and economic analysis, but the sillier director titles are just for chasing taxpayer subsidised diversity rivers of gold.

bespoke
bespoke
January 4, 2022 8:19 am

Family Law ought to be through collaborative practice. No court, clean breaks, lower fees and more matters dealt with.

I think doing this saved my marriage, Dot.

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 8:20 am

A lot of them have bullshit jobs.

Discussed this quite recently with a family member who has shifted from corporate into a qango. Amazed at all the “busywork” jobs and useless regulations and hoops just in the recruitment area alone.

Made a few observations about how the whole thing could be streamlined and was shouted down with a Thunbergian “how dare you!”. Everyone is “stressed” and doing too much work but most of it is duplication. Sounded to me like the ghastly Circumlocution Office, with Tite Barnacle this time dressed in leggings, sloppy t-shirt and unbrushed hair.

I suspect they’ll only last 18 months, if that.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 4, 2022 8:24 am

who would win in a fight between a prickly pear and a cane toad.

Speed is life, so a cane toad in a 1v1 dogfight.

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 8:27 am

Cane toad.

Prickly pear has a known predator, can be controlled with glypho or grubbed out and burned.

Cane toad’s enemy is Dettol. But you have to be there to pull the trigger.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
January 4, 2022 8:28 am

Learn to scroll, peoples!

And try to play the ball and not the man…

And, if I can contradict myself and play the man for just a minute…

I love reading Joh’s posts about Queanbeyan tradies, kangaroo goings-on at the golf course and ACT insider stuff. I generally scroll her Lizzie commentary (but catch a little of it) and wonder why she gets fixated on her. Every time.

I love reading most of Lizzie’s posts and feel the place is not the same when she’s absent. I welcome her unflouncing but dread the inevitable Lizzie War that follows. I don’t recall Lizzie ever starting a new battle though, just Joh (or a pile-onner), even if Lizzie always feels the need to push back (fair enough, but scrolling resumes for this Player).

Can we just live and let live?

sfw
sfw
January 4, 2022 8:36 am

Bullshit jobs, C Northcote Parkinson wrote extensively on this back in the 50’s, he even managed to use maths to explain how the rate of increase in administrative jobs always exceeds the number of people to be managed and has no corelation at all to the work that was to be done. He was a brilliant writer using humour to get his point across but the subject matter was serious, unfortunately his insights were quickly forgotten.

If you can lay your hands on a copy of ‘The Law’ by him or any of his other works take the time to read and enjoy and weep at the same time.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/353685466348?chn=ps&_ul=AU&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-139619-5960-0&mkcid=2&itemid=353685466348&targetid=1395287513209&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=20040&poi=&campaignid=14475531263&mkgroupid=125379166974&rlsatarget=pla-1395287513209&abcId=9300653&merchantid=494541060

Dot
Dot
January 4, 2022 8:37 am

Yeah sfw,

It is one of the most treasured books Dad passed down to me.

What a little gem.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 8:38 am

The back story, evidence. During the period after Sinc closed down the site when I had removed myself from commenting for a defined three-month self-imposed period of recovery. Johanna was still going strong in her crusade against me though and referred on the OT to my husband on two occasions, firstly by Christian and Surname, and secondly as Mr. Surname, caustically inviting him to visit her in Queanbeyan.

—– Forwarded message —–From: Elizabeth Beare (email redacted)
To: Cassandra (email redacted)
Sent: Sunday, 31 May 2020, 07:53:33 pm AEST
Subject: Re: Re. Johanna….

No, Cassie, it is not appropriate. She is doxing Hairy in the same way she tried to dox my first husband. She seems almost unaware of what she is doing, as she wasn’t being particularly nasty in that comment. I am assuming she has Hairy’s name from my comments at Quadrant Online, where in my first comment there I didn’t realise his full name would come up as the subscriber. He quickly altered it but the damage was done. We decided to ignore that.

I think it is best to ignore the comment and make no fuss about it, but I will ask Sinclair to delete the references in it to his real name, as Hairy is rather unhappy about it. Fortunately neither of us are in a situation where privacy is as important as it once was.

Johanna has problems and I think she is best ignored, unless she does it again and delves further on the internet re Hairy.

Elizabeth Beare (email address redacted)
To:
Sinclair Davidson

Sun, 31 May 2020 at 8:01 pm

Sinc, a bit of a storm in a teacup here, but Cassie and C (another Cat), have concerns and so does (my husband), so I am writing to ask if you could simply remove Johanna’s references to (my husband’s) surname and let it be at that. I have no interest in getting people on the Cat upbraided by you for anything, never have, and I am happy at the moment commenting a little on Quadrant Online, which is a civilised place, albeit a little staid in the comment department. I don’t want to comment again yet on Catallaxy, I need a longer time away, and hope that if and when I ask you to let me in, then all will be OK. Thanks for helping me to resist piling in earlier because I really haven’t wanted to continue any agro, but to let it diminish. I would certainly like to drop in for the American elections; wouldn’t miss that.

Kindest regards, and many thanks for your blog, which I still enjoy reading when I can.

Lizzie Beare

Original print-outs available should people disbelieve that this doxxing happened.

bespoke
bespoke
January 4, 2022 8:42 am

Can we just live and let live?

Needs more depth or this if your consistent applied to transgender concerns and women’s sport.

Dot
Dot
January 4, 2022 8:46 am

Can we just live and let live?

That would require a majority of people waking up and realising that government is a scam.

Most of the vaxxies and normies can’t break their psychological conditioning.

“Choice…?…what the hell is that!”

Nelson_Kidd-Players
January 4, 2022 8:50 am

Yeah, as long as they’re not trying to impose their ways on me or anyone else who doesn’t want it, Bespoke.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
January 4, 2022 8:52 am

Dot, ’tis better to work on that than endless wars with fellow commentators who are largely on the same side.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 4, 2022 8:55 am

Daughter had a client who complained about her subordinate who had not given a toss about the client being weanie pathetic fag and not giving due deference. Which is one of the best ways of handling (so to speak) the alphabet type, it drives them crazy. My daughter’s reply was “don’t mind him, he used to kill people he didn’t like”. Ex army. Poor fag got flustered and that was that. She rang the client’s boss, the real Client, not to complain just a heads up. She is really enjoying private enterprise, no make work meetings that go nowhere like the APS before.

sfw
sfw
January 4, 2022 8:56 am

Wonder if this is just a US thing or is happening here and in other countries?
Deaths of those 18 to 64yo up by 40%.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/indiana/indiana-life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-are-up-40-among-people-ages-18-64/article_71473b12-6b1e-11ec-8641-5b2c06725e2c.html

bespoke
bespoke
January 4, 2022 8:59 am

Fair enough NKP, but what a person considers an imposition is always due to circumstances and experiences.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 9:01 am

Can we just live and let live?

Well said that man. I’m in for that.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 4, 2022 9:02 am

From the old thread

Dick ‘Ed

Dot wouldn’t know his own arse from a hole in the ground.

Well deserved response in 3 … 2 … 1 …

srr
srr
January 4, 2022 9:02 am

GETTR News
@DailyNews
·
22m
The Mainstream Media Is Losing The Fight Of Its Life…All Thanks To Joe Rogan

A couple of things all happened together over the last 48 hours.

First, I came up with the idea of writing 100 predictions for the year 2022 – a blog post that I might still wind up finishing at some point. And second, I listened to the Joe Rogan Experience podcast interview of mRNA inventor Dr. Robert Malone, M.D., hours after the doctor was banned from Twitter for having opinions on Covid that stood at odds with the mainstream narrative.

The Mainstream Media Is Losing The Fight Of Its Life…All Thanks To Joe Rogan

I’m expecting one of the largest mainstream media pivots in history in 2022, catalyzed by capitalism and common sense.

quoththeraven.substack.com
[…]

The opinions that Malone echoed during his Rogan appearance included, but were not limited to:

Calling the government “out of control” and “lawless” in their Covid response

Stating mandates of “experimental” vaccines are “explicitly illegal”

Noting that India had success in treating Covid early with drugs like ivermectin

Saying “half a million” excess deaths have occurred due to government actions

Arguing those with natural immunity have higher risk of vaccine adverse events

Alleging that people are living through a mass formation psychosis

RTWT – https://quoththeraven.substack.com/p/the-mainstream-media-is-losing-the

Dot
Dot
January 4, 2022 9:02 am

Can we just live and let live?

Predators cannot.

https://government-scam.com/

Proving the case that “Government”, of every flavor, has been a scam of inter-generational organized crime since the beginning… and they have been getting away with it… until now… because they have been controlling the media…

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 4, 2022 9:04 am

Lizzie,

Sorry, but that is not ‘evidence’, as you put it. Evidence would be the actual post/s you refer to.

All you’ve done is publish emails talking about something that may or may not have occurred. Invoking the prior blog owner’s name doesn’t add any credibility to it.

It’s like discussing what you thought was a UFO sighting, without producing the UFO.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 9:04 am

Sorry about the fact check above, but as I said to Sancho, historiography is important to me.

It’s done. Let it be is certainly my aim now.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 4, 2022 9:05 am

Agree NKP, I enjoy both of them but the last couple of days is pathetic added to the other pathetic goings on so far this year. Please people don’t wreck Dover’s Cat. He has done a great job, better than Sinc did. Mind you I think Dover isn’t invested in Turdbullshit and Bombing Bombers. Get over yourselves. If JC can, anyone can.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 9:06 am

Throughout Covid I have compared it to the AIDS crises, perhaps the last major medical crisis Big Government and BigScience saved us from. We are nearly at point where, if your not Gay or African, go back to whatever you were doing. The analogy is not quite perfect as certain people can still get into trouble if you get Covid.

Dot
Dot
January 4, 2022 9:07 am

No NKP.

Grigory is an ignorant bugman.

I don’t have to list my CV and life experience to that pathetic creature who fails even at trolling.

Needless to say, I helped friends rebuild vineyards and fences after the last big fires.

Grigory cried about Asians eating a fish.

bespoke
bespoke
January 4, 2022 9:15 am

Numberwang would love not having to prove the high ground he claimed and be back in front of a needy captive audience.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 9:20 am

Sorry, but that is not ‘evidence’, as you put it. Evidence would be the actual post/s you refer to.

The emails are time-dated KD and Sinc could verify receipt of them and his subsequent actions if need be if we are talking subpoenas in a Court of Law, which we are not. The time date itself would enable any serious researcher to access the old blog files and find the original comment where it stood with an obvious redaction of Hairy’s name, made by Sinc. Cassie’s original alert to me possibly also contains a hard copy of the comment itself: I haven’t checked that in the heaps of emails I exchange with Cassie on all sorts of topics and meet ups, no need to make it all a Federal case. My kindest interpretation is that Johanna simply forgot she made this comment. It happens.
Let’s move on now.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 9:20 am

Yep. Add Grey Nurses to the list.

Pogria
Pogria
January 4, 2022 9:23 am

Nelson_Kidd-Playerssays:
January 4, 2022 at 8:28 am
Learn to scroll, peoples!

You’re so funny.

MatrixTransform
January 4, 2022 9:26 am

Catallaxy’s puny ’50’ now

50 and a 1/2

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 4, 2022 9:28 am

Sigh.

It’s not evidence Lizzie. I don’t mean to be mean.

You said you would provide evidence, and in fact produced vague clues and a mystery person – in this case, the previous blog owner.

I can say Might and Power won the Cup in 1997 with Jim Cassidy on board, but if questioned I would need to produce the race results, not a record of me talking about it.

It’s not a Scooby Doo episode.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
January 4, 2022 9:29 am

Okay, exclude the true wrongologists who are the man and the ball. They stick out in the line of fire so effectively anyway. And anyone whom Cassie declares is worthy to dump on. 🙂

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 4, 2022 9:30 am

Yep. Add Grey Nurses to the list.

FMD. What’s going on? You’ve got a bad case of jihad against things people like to eat.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 9:34 am

KD, now I have the date of my email to Sinclair I have just done a search on Cassie’s original email to me.

In it Cassie has copied the comment that concerned her and her lawyer partner.
So yes, there is a dated hard copy available. It can rest where it is though. No disclosure.

Hairy always cautioned his staff about emails and blogging on the net, long before they became fashionable in litigration and politics. If you write it, consider it a public and legal document, was his mantra.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 4, 2022 9:36 am

Cane toad’s enemy is Dettol. But you have to be there to pull the trigger.

Hey. This is secret Queensland business.

(Pro Tip: Dilute the Dettol with meths, not water: your water pistol will thank you.)

Nelson_Kidd-Players
January 4, 2022 9:39 am

I suppose Lizzie could provide the post number (it may be in Cassie’s email that she has) but the post may have disappeared. The Trove scrape of catallaxyfiles.com is next to useless while the Wayback Machine is more complete and navigable, multi-page open freds often only have one page of the many archived.

Or we can all just move on.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 9:39 am

The copy is clearly a direct cut and paste of comment made on Catallaxy. i.e. authentic.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 4, 2022 9:39 am

who would win in a fight between a prickly pear and a cane toad.

Is this some sort of code for Lizzie vs Johanna?

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 9:40 am

Interesting choice for the OT header, Dover. Goya treats a classical subject in a whole new way, with broad, soft strokes and suggestion.

Quite a departure from those fat, baroque damsels and lusty teutonic bulls nestling in garlands of flowers.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 4, 2022 9:42 am

It would stand up as evidence in any Court of Law. So the message is, be careful about what you write.
Here is ok so far, but new legislation may well turn up to bite Dover’s bum.
I won’t be party to it, but it could happen.

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 9:43 am

Nelson, from what I can gather, the Trove archive has only the final page for each month (and the threads listed thereon). I found some interesting comments from early 2020 there a few days ago when I had an hour to kill.

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 9:45 am

Oh, and happy six months anniversary to FlashCat!

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 9:46 am

Okay, okay…five months.

Not a bad start though.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 4, 2022 9:47 am

Can I have Option B please?
The “Or we can all just move on” one.

Franx
Franx
January 4, 2022 9:48 am

Interesting as to what makes for evidence. Hermeneutics will have its work cut out with emails of the past.
As for the puzzle women, their work too is cut out. Shall check to see how or if is progressing.

MatrixTransform
January 4, 2022 9:50 am

It would stand up as evidence in any Court of Law

ahuh, a very public and high profile person that can’t be named

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 9:50 am

Ah, geez. I doze for two hours & the blissful harmony that has pervaded DoverCat recently starts showing signs of rigor. You people just cannot cope without me, can you?

This ‘Muddy, you’re indispensable’ sh!t is growing fungus.

bespoke
bespoke
January 4, 2022 9:52 am

NKP

Who is “on owe side’ and gets a free pass. From my perspective unrepentant feminist and ex back door Alp power brokers should be at least viewed with scepticism not embraced as voices of movement that is and very vulnerable to ulterior motives.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
January 4, 2022 9:53 am

The Wayback Machine is quite good. Almost all threads apart from the open forums are there, complete, and there are usually multiple captures over time. Like I said, the multi-page threads are less complete as the crawler did not find the other pages in all cases, just the main (usually last) one. The fact that there was fiddling of the Çat’s look at different stages (e.g.: page size) seems to mean some eras are more complete than others. Start here if you wish to fossick in old dirt. 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 4, 2022 9:53 am

‘It would stand up as evidence in any Court of Law.’

No. It is an inference at best.

No. No, it would not. The post itself is evidence. Anything else is gossip.

MatrixTransform
January 4, 2022 9:54 am

I think this may be a Perry Mason episode.

the real murderer is …

omg!

the prosecutor

who knew?

Rabz
January 4, 2022 9:54 am

My beloved Wolves won at Old Trafford for the first time in 42 years beating Man Utd 1-0.

Always good news when Man Utd lose. My beloved Mighty Reds hammered them 5-0 a couple of months ago, at Old Trafford.

Baba
Baba
January 4, 2022 9:54 am

FMD

Police in the Northern Territory are searching for a missing three-year-old girl who was last seen near a popular Darwin beach on New Year’s Eve.

Snip

In a statement, NT Police said Stevie was reported missing on Sunday night when they attended a property in the Darwin suburb of Malak on a separate matter.

“Hey, while you’re here….”

Aaron
Aaron
January 4, 2022 9:55 am

Headline in Drudge : “France relaxes”.

Headline 2 in Drudge.

This year’s model.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 9:57 am

So we have reached the point of Schroeder’s doxxing. The only way to prove Hairy was doxxed is to doxx Hairy.

If only we could go to closed court. If the rest of you could see yourself out. Groogs can stay. He probably has the details on a flash card already filed.

Dot
Dot
January 4, 2022 10:00 am

This is all getting a bit silly, even for me.

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 10:00 am

I’d like to bring attention to my post of 2:10 a.m. Three ticks? Are you kidding me? You heartless bastards! This is MY time, & I demand you inbreds acknowledge my wit, wisdom, & glowing charisma (which might be sunburn)!

If that won’t trigger long-deserved empathy, I’d like to describe the rash I had 23 years ago. It was a cold & lonely night …

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 10:01 am

That would be Schrodinger’s doxxing.

Schroeder’s doxxing would involve a few bars of Beethoven.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 10:01 am

Start here if you wish to fossick in old dirt

Or you could put your hand in a blender.

Vicki
Vicki
January 4, 2022 10:01 am

Talk of small businesses in hospitality closing or suffering….but we have really noticed it on returning to Sydney in the last few days.

Deciding to try to get a meal at local restaurants with outdoor facilities, we found one seafood place now only serves takeaway of fried fish & chips. We decided on the Italian restaurant next door with outdoor tables & found ownership had changed, Chinese people running it & the food was awful (I was mildly sick afterwards).

Next morning drove to our usual cafe on beach, only to find it closed with sign (due to staff unavailability).

Mmmm……..all this talk of a sensational economic recovery? All pollie talk!

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 10:02 am

This is all getting a bit silly, even for me.

Sorry. I’ll withdraw my Peanuts reference.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 10:03 am

So I was close. Physics is not my area.

Pogria
Pogria
January 4, 2022 10:04 am

This article is so funny.

The hysteria over normal erosion is palpable. Does the msm know that Tasmania was attached to the mainland a while ago?

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 10:05 am

I gave you a sympathy uptick, Muddy.

Cherish it. I hand out very…very few of the things.

Muddy
Muddy
January 4, 2022 10:05 am

That’s it. I’m flexi-flouncing.
Pffft.

Struth
January 4, 2022 10:07 am

Good Moaning.
Without a bit of a boot up the arse this blog becomes a sewing circle.
Complete with the girls having a bitch about each other.

No fun at all.
How many boosters are you going to have Lizzie?
Those OS trips don’t happen if your Nazi pass turns red.
You do realise Frau Notaclue may tell you what good Nazi international travel requires this week, but it can change by the second, do you not?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 4, 2022 10:07 am

It would stand up as evidence in any Court of Law. So the message is, be careful about what you write.
Here is ok so far, but new legislation may well turn up to bite Dover’s bum.
I won’t be party to it, but it could happen.

In a bondage dungeon somewhere, a malefactor shivers with pleasure – reaches for a Kleenex – and returns to xis Googling…

bespoke
bespoke
January 4, 2022 10:07 am

Muddysays:
January 4, 2022 at 10:00 am

Ha! ha! so true and how incessant nagging is so powerful to the practitioners.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 10:07 am

I have stopped using Wikipedia. Those pleas for $2.75 were getting to me.

Franx
Franx
January 4, 2022 10:11 am

So is it the tick that counts or the colour.

Vicki
Vicki
January 4, 2022 10:12 am

BTW it’s pathetic what excites you these days. I came home jubilant from shopping because I was able to purchase Rhinocort nasal spray which has Budesonide, the steroid which has proved very effective against Covid in the early stages. Generally, this is only available through prescription & we try to avoid GP visits. I havnt been to see a doctor in 3 years though husband saw the regional GP a few months ago.

Still no Quercetin available. But I have a nice little stock added to as it comes available. My daughter, who attends a naturopath regularly, was able to purchase some from him & gave it to me for Christmas. Pathetic, isn’t it?!

Nelson_Kidd-Players
January 4, 2022 10:13 am

calli says:
January 4, 2022 at 10:01 am

Schroeder’s doxxing would involve a few bars of Beethoven.

I blame L. van Pelt.

Pogria
Pogria
January 4, 2022 10:14 am

Good on you Vicki. I am pleased for you.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
January 4, 2022 10:16 am

calli says:
January 4, 2022 at 10:02 am

Sorry. I’ll withdraw my Peanuts reference.

As long as you don’t upend that piano.

And about that football…

Bruce
Bruce
January 4, 2022 10:20 am

@ Muddy:

I recommend a few fingers of OP Bundy and warm (NOT boiled) milk as a nightcap. This could be a challenge if you do not have a nice gig as a pubic serpent a to pay for the Bundy and the energy bill for heating the milk.

Dot
Dot
January 4, 2022 10:20 am

It would stand up as evidence in any Court of Law.

Technically, it’s not even evidence…Johanna could have probably pointed that out.

rickw
rickw
January 4, 2022 10:22 am

Retirement dinner scheduled for this Friday postponed one month due to the number of COVID cases in Mongyang.

Do these fucking vaccines work or not?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 4, 2022 10:24 am

‘Technically, it’s not even evidence’

Saying my evidence is not evidence?

That is actionable.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 10:24 am

Technically, it’s not even evidence…Johanna could have probably pointed that out.

Look, I’m sure you’re trying to help but …

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 4, 2022 10:26 am

The hysteria over normal erosion is palpable.

Meanwhile…

New Study: Pacific And Indian Ocean Sea Levels Rising ‘Much Slower Than Climate Model Predictions’ (3 Jan)

The claim that sea levels are rising so fast that low-lying islands have been uniformly sinking into the sea worldwide is wholesale myth.

Actually, the opposite has been observed via satellite. A 2019 global-scale analysis of 709 islands in the Pacific and Indian Oceans revealed 89% were either stable or growing in size, and that no island larger than 10 ha (and only 4 of 334 islands larger than 5 ha) had decreased in size since the 1980s

Atolls getting bigger? How amazing is that, when you have atolls in the South Pacific that are like giant rings with the central volcano long since submerged. Maybe climate scientists and Nine News journos should be required to do a course on basic geography.

Dot
Dot
January 4, 2022 10:27 am

Great.

The IHU variant of SARS-2 CoVID-19.

So this should keep the narrative up to about mid March!

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 10:28 am

It’s meta evidence. Like metadata. Ask the Zuck.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 4, 2022 10:30 am

Sorry Tom hit the report by accident. Dover disregard.

WTF with that Darwin article, Malak is down past the airport. Beach is quite a few km away!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 4, 2022 10:32 am

Lizzie.
What law precisely do you claim has been breached, and how?

shatterzzz
January 4, 2022 10:37 am

Always good news when Man Utd lose. My beloved Mighty Reds hammered them 5-0 a couple of months ago, at Old Trafford.

Yep, they even made, the once mighty (I still remember being a kid .. LOL!), TOON look the goods in that 1-1 draw last week (which Toon should have won .. but as usual .. duuuh!) .. any team that can make Newcastle look competitive, these days, has very serious problems ..! .. LOL!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 4, 2022 10:40 am

I have stopped using Wikipedia. Those pleas for $2.75 were getting to me.

If they weren’t so totally lefty I might consider a donation. But nope, not while they censor righties and fill the pages with endless lefty swill. They can go ask Bill Gates or Laurene Jobs for a handout.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 4, 2022 10:42 am

What law precisely do you claim has been breached, and how?

It’s Magna Carter, it’s Hideous Corpus; it’s the Warsaw Convention.

Do try to keep up.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 4, 2022 10:42 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:

January 4, 2022 at 9:04 am

Sorry about the fact check above, but as I said to Sancho, historiography is important to me.

It’s done. Let it be is certainly my aim now.

Let it be.
Followed by five more posts on the subject.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 4, 2022 10:43 am

Final Birdwatch for today, and some time:

Struth banned him again- This time for just being Bird, and shitting everywhere in his obnoxious and monomanically repetitive manner.

But at least Bird didn’t call him a c***. And Struth didn’t grandstand about being the free-est and open-est and truthiest this time.

Mater
January 4, 2022 10:43 am

It appears we can relegate the vaccines to the “things that were going to set us free, but didn’t” bin…right along side the COVIDSafe app.

Rapid Antigen Testing is the next saviour in line.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 4, 2022 10:47 am

Rex Angersays:

January 4, 2022 at 10:43 am

Final Birdwatch for today, and some time:

Struth banned him again

What?
Some of the greatest agricultural science writings of our time have gone in the bin?
Say it isn’t so.

local oaf
January 4, 2022 10:48 am

Pogria says:
January 4, 2022 at 10:04 am

This article is so funny.

The hysteria over normal erosion is palpable. Does the msm know that Tasmania was attached to the mainland a while ago?

No-one tell the MSM about the end of the last ice age, they’d freak out. The sea levels rose so far that Australia was cut in two and Britain was separated from western Europe.

The original Brexit!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 4, 2022 10:49 am

It’s Magna Carter, it’s Hideous Corpus; it’s the Warsaw Convention.

Mabo, the Constitution, the Vibe?

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 10:49 am

Rapid Antigen Testing is the next saviour in line.

More disgusting Chinese landfill to go with the filthy masks.

This makes my beef with endless disposable nappies look tame.

Any “environmentalists” piping up to whinge? Not a chance.

Baba
Baba
January 4, 2022 10:49 am

How Ellie came to terms with her transgender identity at age 7

There’s someone missing from this amazing, heart-warming story.

Pogria
Pogria
January 4, 2022 10:58 am

Let it be.
Followed by five more posts on the subject.

Sancho, as there are several gentlemen on this blog of a nervous disposition regarding the “Betty Bucket Imbroglio”, (not your manly self, of course), I suggest a “Last Word Off”.
Best Quote, link, video wins. We need a judge. Talk amongst yourselves fellas and choose one.

I submit my humble contribution for your perusal. 😉

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 4, 2022 10:59 am

There’s someone missing from this amazing, heart-warming story.

Can’t locate the meme, but it was a cartoon of a speaker saying “every corporate Board needs 50% men and 50% women” to the smiles of the woke audience, then saying “every child needs a mother and father” at which point the torches and pitchforks came out.

I wonder if the ABC will do the follow up show in around 10 or so years’ time when Ellie’s Y chromosome puberty has kicked its way past the hormone blockers and Ellie realises that getting “her” dick chopped off wasn’t a good idea.

bespoke
bespoke
January 4, 2022 11:00 am

Babasays:
January 4, 2022 at 10:49 am

Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy.

srr
srr
January 4, 2022 11:00 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
January 4, 2022 at 7:29 am

I never published his name

Sinclair would disagree. And that is the end of the matter.

As some so like to arrogantly taunt, Sinc’s old cat vault is impenetrable.

Let’s call them members of, ‘Team A’.

Team A also loves to appeal to ‘proofs’ at Sinc’s old cat or Sinc’s word, neither of which are available to we teamless individuals who Team A regularly calumniate.

They are low, cheap, propagandistic tactics of the MSM, such as Their ABC which we now know Lizzie’s Hairy, like Sinc, was a regular on (and a Labor man; makes one wonder how many of those so often boasted of diamonds came via Labor’s/OPM), but I digress; I still ‘read’/scroll by the Johanna & Lizzie Shows as just another game of Team A propagandists playing, ‘Diversion For The Sake of The Team/Party.

That’s all I have to say on the matter/s.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 4, 2022 11:01 am

I suggest a “Last Word Off”.
Best Quote, link, video wins

Here’s mine…

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 11:03 am

Here’s mine.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 4, 2022 11:04 am

I suggest a “Last Word Off”.

The good ones are rare, and like your example frequently scripted.

Quoting from memory of something in Steve Waugh’s autobiography about an on-field incident.

“It was the perfect time for a witty sarcastic retort but unfortunately all I could think of was “fuck off”.”

Aaron
Aaron
January 4, 2022 11:05 am

” IHU variant of SARS-2 CoVID-19″.

It’s about now you start thinking of “Hmm, will my booster last through another variation”?

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 4, 2022 11:06 am

What the hell?
Pootled into town.
The car thought it was 32 in the shade, a steady miasma dispersing breeze was coming in
from the WNW and the Sun was set to insta-basal cell carcinoma.
Yet nearly everyone in the street wore the Blue Scrap of Safety.
Has Umbrella Corp. had another leak?
Or is Anna the Munificent, Mother of All Queenssslanders,
worried she is no longer first in our hearts?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 4, 2022 11:09 am

Rapid Antigen Testing is the next saviour in line pointless religious ritual.

There, Mater, FIFY. Oops, I forgot: and masks.

Queensland mandates masks in all indoor settings (Sky News, 1 Jan)

May as well wear a bag over your head, it’d be just as efficient. Hopefully the MSM will get bored of all this soon.

British Medical Journal: “The End Of The Pandemic Won’t Be Televised”. It’ll End When Media Lose Interest (2 Jan)

Unfortunately, seeing how incredibly boring most lefty news outlets are, it may take a while.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 4, 2022 11:10 am

Not exactly a “last word” in the sense Pogria is suggesting but still one of my all time favourites, quoted on page 1 of Gerald Stone’s history of Channel 9 post the Goanna.

Kerry Packer is on his deathbed and drifts into unconsciousness. He wakes up briefly, just long enough to say, before his final checkout:
“Am I still here? How long is this going to fucking take?”

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 11:11 am

Bird is best experienced in realtime. It’s the thrill of the smiting.

Pogria
Pogria
January 4, 2022 11:14 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 4, 2022 11:17 am

Oh and on RATs, I was amused to read more about the Karen who sat on an aircraft toilet for three hours after coming down with crud midflight.

CNN Story Perfectly Captures The Mass COVID Neuroticism Of 2021 (2 Jan)

She locked herself in the bathroom while en route from Chicago to Reykjavik, Iceland (she planned to go on to visit family in Switzerland) – after panicking upon discovering that a sore throat was the onset of coronavirus. CNN seems to actually hail her as some kind of hero of public conscientiousness. The start of the story perfectly encapsulates the kind of neurosis and failed precautions and anxiety-inducing “health rituals” which have taken hold over vast segments of the population. The woman took no less than seven Covid tests just before the flight:

Before the flight, Fotieo told CNN she took two PCR tests and about five rapid tests, all of which came back negative. But about an hour and a half into the flight, Fotieo started to feel a sore throat.

“The wheels started turning in my brain and I thought, ‘OK, I’m going to just go take a test.’ It was going to make me feel better,” Fotieo told CNN. “Immediately, it came back positive.”

So there you go, she did two PCR tests and five RATs. But the eight test was positive! It’s like the castle in the swamp, only sillier.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 4, 2022 11:18 am

just another game of Team A propagandists playing, ‘Diversion For The Sake of The Team/Party.

Hop back in your tunnel and eat some more pizza, srr.

We adults are fighting, now…

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 11:19 am

Some people like to read the old Cat. But only as an allegory.

Gab
Gab
January 4, 2022 11:21 am

Do these fucking vaccines work or not?

Not.

Oh, it was a rhetorical question.

Carry on.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 4, 2022 11:22 am

Some people like to read the old Cat. But only as an allegory.

Plenty of smitings in the Old.
The New is far more about giving everyone a second chance.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 4, 2022 11:23 am

I still ‘read’/scroll by the Johanna & Lizzie

I tune in for the travel and gardening segments.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 4, 2022 11:23 am

Thought I would flounce in here and whip out the 12 inch
pepper grinder and see if anyone can match me.

Ya feelin’ lucky punks.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 11:24 am

The New is far more about giving everyone a second chance.

How’s that working out for everyone?

shatterzzz
January 4, 2022 11:24 am

How Ellie came to terms with her transgender identity at age 7

Whatever thoughts occupied my mind at 7 I can’t recall but one thing I do know they didn’t involve gender .. What I do recall(throughout my mid 1950s’60s schooldays) is there was NO tolerance (amongst kids) for being different .. none whatsoever … being different at 7 would have, probably, resulted in only one outcome .. the failure to attend one’s own 8th burfday ……..
Where do these kids learn this stuff? .. my, & most kids, I grew up with 1st interest in gender other than taunting didn’t occur until the teenage years became reality ……. & it wasn’t about wearing dresses .. either!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 4, 2022 11:28 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
January 4, 2022 at 11:17 am

The gruinaid has an Australian Karen trying to top the aircraft dunny experience…

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/04/i-spent-a-week-trying-to-be-counted-as-a-nsw-covid-case-ive-only-just-succeeded

“I love my kid so much I dragged them sick out of bed with a positive case of covid to get a second test”…

My 19-year-old son was the first to go down on Tuesday, 28 December. In the morning he developed stomach cramps, vomiting, a migraine and a high fever. I bought him the last rapid antigen test at the local servo. It came up as positive.

And so began our efforts to be included in New South Wales’ latest Covid figures. A week later and we are still not part of that count.

I live in northern NSW and last Tuesday was a public holiday. I rang three public hospitals to find out which testing centres were open and learnt that every testing centre was overrun and our chances of getting in were Buckley’s.

I was undeterred. My son had severe asthma as a child. Would Omicron trigger his asthma? I’m probably an anxious mother, but I wanted an official diagnosis in case he needed hospital care. I also believe that the state and federal governments need to chart the spread of infection because it’s their job to deliver resources to hospitals and tighten pandemic restrictions to slow infection. I was determined for us to be included in the Covid count.
On Tuesday afternoon we drove to the Byron drive-through testing clinic – the security guard said they couldn’t test any more people. We then headed to Ballina only to be turned away. Lismore and Casino’s drive-throughs were also closed.

We went home. My son’s temperature was above 38C that night despite the Nurofen and Panadol. The headaches also started for me.

At 6am on Wednesday, my feverish son dragged himself out of bed and I drove him back to a drive-through testing clinic. It was almost 20C, but he wore a hoodie, and brought a blanket and box of tissues. By 9am we’d crawled to the front of the drive-through queue. I told the nurse he had a positive RAT and a history of severe asthma. She said his results would be fast-tracked and back in 50 hours. I was surprised that 50 hours was considered fast, but still grateful he was a priority.

We drove home from the testing centre and into the twilight zone. The whole family became unwell, and days of high temperatures, strange dreams, headaches, dizziness and exhaustion followed.

Since the summer influx of visitors to the northern rivers, one member of my family has received a Covid exposure site alert every second day. It has been like playing dodgem cars with Covid. We got hit.

Our region is popular with tourists so they add to rapidly increasing case numbers, but it also has a high percentage of elderly and First Nations residents and a limited number of ICU beds. I hope our health system holds in coming weeks.

NSW premier Dominic Perrottet has told journalists: “We will tailor our response to the situation that comes. If evidence changes, we will have targeted restrictions in place.”

For seven days, we have been trying to contribute to “the evidence”. Yesterday – 122 hours after being swabbed – my son and I received our positive results so I anticipate we will be in today’s figure, exactly a week after he became sick. My husband and daughter will surely be added to the numbers having also been tested.

The questions I keep coming back to now are: is the testing system so slow because labs are under-resourced, and the state government did not plan for a contagious new variant and Christmas travel and celebrations causing a surge in cases? Or are numbers rising so quickly it’s simply impossible for labs to keep up? Should we consider Victoria’s lead and look at allowing people to upload RAT results?

What is clear though is the latest numbers being given out by government clearly do not reflect daily infection rates. I’ve come to think of the NSW Covid-19 figures as being like a Hubble space telescope – reporting back what happened light years ago.

The picture is a classic “Car based Karen demands to speak with the manager

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 11:29 am

I tune in for the travel and gardening segments.

That is the equivalent of reading the articles. Buy a bag of ocelots’ spleens and enjoy the show.

Diogenes
Diogenes
January 4, 2022 11:30 am

It’s like the castle in the swamp, only sillier.

So far the only common symptoms of all the variants is stupidity.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 11:31 am

Once you could only get Covid skiing in Aspen. Now every Tom, Dick and Harry has it.

Rabz
January 4, 2022 11:33 am

It’s Magna Carter, it’s Hideous Corpus; it’s the Warsaw Convention.

I thought it was the “Magma Carter”?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 4, 2022 11:34 am

Mole – That is glorious! Only Aussies have this wonderful ability to disappear up their own orifices so completely that they turn themselves inside out. I like the floral print on her face nappy.

Rabz
January 4, 2022 11:36 am

Where do these kids learn this stuff?

From their stupid bloody parents and tachers*.

*Deliberate.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 11:38 am

You can see why Lord Waffleworth was so keen to get the Grauniad down under.

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 11:38 am

Since the summer influx of visitors to the northern rivers, one member of my family has received a Covid exposure site alert every second day. It has been like playing dodgem cars with Covid. We got hit.

Awwwww….shucks. Send those diseased proles home, pronto!

The Beloved has had a four-day-late ping on his phone daily, and two yesterday. Because terrible tourists.

They ask him to be aware of symptoms. So far…none. Super infectious cunning virus!

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 4, 2022 11:38 am

Do these fucking vaccines work or not?

Typical heartless extreme right wing capitalist bringing up “work”
as if it’s the only thing that matters.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 11:39 am

Clearly you are not a sovereign citizen.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 4, 2022 11:42 am

calli – it’s worse in the West. Perth people have gone to Margaret River.

calli
calli
January 4, 2022 11:42 am

What is clear though is the latest numbers being given out by government clearly do not reflect daily infection rates. I’ve come to think of the NSW Covid-19 figures as being like a Hubble space telescope – reporting back what happened light years ago.

At least “Karen” is starting to get the picture.

Baby steps…

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 4, 2022 11:43 am

Wonderful to see the grown adults walking down the street with masks.
Face nappies in case the wearer shits themselves in fear.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 4, 2022 11:44 am

thought so

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 4, 2022 11:46 am

Super infectious cunning virus!

Extra always cautious? It’s nice that Julie Andrews and Dick Van Dyke are still going well.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 4, 2022 11:47 am

Do these fucking vaccines work or not?

We need to be careful with the word “work”. It can be misinterpreted.

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