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Very cynical, Wally. 🙂
Sancho, absolutely. I expected better from my bilateral knee replacement. However, apart from the rehab in hospital, I wasn’t able…
accusing them of eating their patients Eating Fido? That’s terrible! Dog chow mein, yum.
I have been a journalist all my life. My instinct is that Hildebrand is being paid to be a political…
Staking the claim right here and right now.
The 90% “unvaccinated” in ICU number that they’re bandying about all over the world right now – including in QLD, and NSW by premiers and CHO’s. I 100% guarantee they’re categorising zero, one and two shots as “unvaccinated” and using “unvaccinated” interchangebly with “not fully vaccinated”.
Mark these words. In their minds, in their private discussions and meetings, double jabbed are already quasi-formally unvaccinated, they just haven’t officially announced it yet.
I understand that HB but:
Indeed. I said, of course, because Gray is playing the moderate ‘the truth is always somewhere in the middle line’ which is absurd. The truth has no spatial location.
If anyone has questions about the abortion issue/ religion ask what the Paul wing of the movement views are on these subjects.
That’s Rand and Ron Paul.
Should not be surprised of course, having moved from the NT to NSW, but lotsa rules and laws are making themselves known.
First is a rule that says you can’t cut down trees on your own property. Can’t find a definition of “tree” but I guess anything over 2 metres might suffice.
Next is a law that says you have to have a “safe alarm” on your gun safe, and the house must have an alarm too.
The Novax Djokovic saga breaks down in its simplest form to 2 competing bureaucracies.
1. Tennis Australia with support from the Vic government. Responsible for regulations re entry to a tennis tournament. Vaccination status (and exemptions) is one of the criteria for entry to the tournament.
vs
2. The Federal government and its border controls. Responsible for entry to Australia.
Current state of play:
1st set to TA with a powerful display of self importance. Gets their no1 drawcard to agree to play.
2nd set to TA serving up an ace with The Joker actually arriving in Australia without having to go into 2 weeks quarantine. TA and Andrews are on a roll, looking good for the match.
3rd set Huge turnaround in form, with Morrison imprisoning Joker overnight at Melbourne airport.
4th set to Morrison again, with this booming return of serve; “People must be fully vaccinated as defined by ATAGI to gain quarantine-free entry into Australia.
“That means people who do not meet the definition will not be approved for quarantine-free entry.
Players are emerging from a PR-induced break in play as the 5th and final set gets under way.
Stay tuned. Score locked at 2 sets all and reputations are on the line. The political tennis ball Joker looks a little frazzled at this stage but Morrison and Andrews/TA have mighty taxpayer funded resources to call on in this deciding set.
I’m not aware of troops from Europe being quarantined after WW2.
Dad got off a troop ship in Perth and went straight to relatives place where he and a few mates scandalised the straight laced Methodists by being a tad worse the wear for a few beers.
You’d think a little slack might be granted to guys after 3 years away from Australia risking their lives, but apparently not.
They did have full medical before leaving the UK though
dad used to play a bit of country week tennis.
This might be his Rocky moment!
Ah, the argumentum from Bahnisch BBQ. It’s very hard work crafting an argument that still gets you a gig there, C.L. I imagine it raises quite an appetite.
A travel exemption from the Australian Border Force was not requested and the commonwealth was not engaged.
So, exactly who or which organisation issued the “Visa”?
Given that covid is running rampant in fully vaccinated NSW and QLD and Victoria, like all of the vaccine ‘mandates’ there is now zero purpose to require people to be “fully vaccinated” to enter Australia except to wield force and power for the sake of nasty politics, ideology and ego.
Because paying taxes is such a good thing. There’s no correlation between big government and high tax rates.
Stop trying to give Yobbo more intellectual authority than he deserves. He is or was a wheat farmer from WA ffs or at least inherited a piece of land in the wheat belt. Who gives a shit what he thinks? Calm down.
He did something unforgivable anyway. He gave a great critique to one of the worst movies I’ve seen until I turned off the TV. Unpardonable.
No comment.
Roger.
That is the key.
The sharks have been circling the Melbourne Australian Open for years.
Not just Queensland and NSW.
Asian bidders too.
That is why Andrews caved in. The ALP don’t give a shit about F1 but they do not want to lose the Australian Open.
This was going to play out one of two ways:-
1. The Feds own the decision to let him in the country, then Hunchback makes a stand to keep him out of Melbourne Park; or
2. Hunchback grants an exemption (albeit via a puppet committee) and ScoMo pulls the plug.
Dickheads both.
I hope this blows up Melbourne’s ownership of the Open, and that it goes overseas.
The idiots went with “inclusive branding” a few years ago and called it “the Grand Slam of Asia Pacific”.
Way to open the door for China or Japan to pinch it.
That may require an inquiry by the Office of the PM & C.
I suggest the terms be broad enough to include how all those Hollyweirdos managed to fly in the midst of a pandemic while 45 000 + Australians who wanted to couldn’t.
Rules are rules after all, are they not, Mr. Prime Minister?
I can’t recall the position/s libertarians took re compulsory vaxxination in child care and elsewhere but I imagine it largely took the form that sending your kids to child care/ primary/ etc. was a choice and that private providers were free to enforce their own rules.
An Albanian with a certificate from the back street doctor he paid $100AUD to can come to Australia and go about his business, but we’re banned from visiting family in hospital that we pay many $$$ for, while tens of thousands of vaccinated people superspread covid all over the state in direct contradiction to what The Science said was going to happen.
If we were banned because, as they stated, unvaccinated people were ‘spreaders’, and now vaccinated people are super spreaders, why are we still banned from visiting hospitals and they are not?
“Because, we’re in power and you’re not” is the essential answer.
Here’s a challenge. Top this if you can.
My double-jabbed 40 year old SIL spent last night sleeping in a tent in their front yard (their stupid dog has the run of the back) in the rain because he fears he may have been exposed to Omicron at work. The suspect work colleague hasn’t yet received confirmation of a positive result.
They’ll go into a collective depression over that.
Are Open attendees Andrews voters?
I find the psychology of homo sapiens fascinating even though I can’t understand it, despite reputedly being one of them. Was in Coles this morning, there was a new sign saying ‘no more than two minces per customer’. Which, for a currawong-challenged person like myself, is a problem. So I got a bulk 2kg and a usual 1kg packet of 3 star high octane bird-fuel.
Coles reintroduces purchasing limits as demand soars, includes rapid antigen test kits (Sky News, 6 Jan)
Ok I understand the first one given the current RAT plague, but why do people suddenly hoard chicken thighs? I’m mystified.
“technically minded middle class professionals who don’t like paying taxes.”
I don’t like paying taxes.
In any event , it’s kind of funny reading about all this hidden animosity from people who posted at the old Catallaxies literally for decades. Coming out of the closet now is kind of amusing.
“But, but Yobbo commented”!
I heard that there are delivery issues causing this because too many drivers are being forced to isolate. Again, the response being worse than the disease.
What does this description remind me of….
https://www.mindingthecampus.org/2021/12/29/disrobing-the-aboriginal-stalinists-on-a-canadian-campus/
Like all totalitarian movements that have haunted Western civilization, the aboriginal or indigenous movements in former British colonies are in constant rebellion against liberal society, which they disparage as weakening their ethno-nationalist spirit and providing free rein to ideas that challenge their myths, even as they fuel their hatreds using its fruits. Democratic societies deceive themselves if they think that accommodating these indigeno-fascist movements will satiate their demands. So-called “First Nations” activists in Canada are explicit in their desires to tear down liberal society and remake Canada into little more than a rentier state where people who have succeeded in the grubby jostling to be categorized as “natives” live off the fees paid by the majority of hard working Canadians. The self-identification of the movement as composed of permanent and ineluctable victims of the modern Canadian state turns it into a farce of self-absorption and irresponsibility.
Paging Dr Bruce, Paging Dr Bruce…..
Nah, in Australia they were just vaccination nazis like the rest of the professional middle class, when it was brought up, if you got past the “you’re and antivaxxer I hope your kids just die!” pavlovian response to any discussion about the system, they quickly just hide under the umbrella of Science! and “public health is a valid role of blah, blah, gay marriage”.
But you reach the very crux of the issue.
“Private providers” – daycares, etc were told by the government that if they let an ‘unvaccinated’ child or worker in, they would have their federal funding cut, state issued licences revoked and their business put at risk of shut down if there was an ‘outbreak’ of a notifable disease.
Parents were told if they did not get every single dose of every single vaccine – even the dumb ones, their children would be banned from society.
Does this sound familiar? This is most people’s first exposure to this nasty system, but the government has been building this system and honing it against people for over a decade.
8m TE, and anything within 10 m of your house if it can fall on it. Otherwise I can ask my neighbour about the dodgey bros. What tree?
So, looking like:
• Djokovic was granted an exemption on some grounds by someone, or something attached to the Victorian Government and/or Tennis Australia;
• Team Djokovic didn’t use that exemption to apply for an exempted visa – thus rocking up with the wrong paperwork;
• Australian Border Force tried to get the Commonwealth to OK the entry – but ATAGI said ‘no, doesn’t qualify’ and ‘Moron said faaark, not me’;
• Dept of Home Affairs then went to the Victorian Government to see if it would sponsor Djokovic – but VikGov said ‘no, speak to Moron’, because screaming in the streets of Melbourne.
And here we are.
Thirdworlding.
And that was yobbo’s view.
Hmm, without comment.
Amazon’s Gender Recognition System Identifies Michelle Obama, Serena Williams as Men.
“Hidden” animosity?
LOL.
Have the spike proteins affected your memory?
Could be supply issues rather than demand, Bruce.
We have a 10m pine on the edge of the front garden. Was thinking of taking it down myself but a few low council fences etc might make it difficult.
Two gums about 50cm each across at the base and 12-15m in height in the back yard.
Old School Conservativesays:
January 6, 2022 at 12:00 pm
Brilliant, OSC.
Stix
I never recall you jumping up and down in threads protesting against the inhumanity of libertarian thought. I always saw you more as a compliant poster going with the flow and never really causing a stir.
By the way just so we’re clear, you’re deadset against all vaccines, right? It’s just not the covid batch.
Yobbo and I had an open falling out over a decade ago, JC. He was rabidly anti-Christian and pro-gay ‘marriage’ and attacked both my defence of Christianity and marriage and me. This isn’t breaking news.
Hopefully, just hopefully, Djokovic will fulfill his greatest role as the catalyst that ignites the inferno that destroys Australian health fascism.
Massive international sneering may achieve what our Gaultiers and their storm troopers have supressed in Australia.
I have no idea but it’s a view consistent with libertarianism.
This is most people’s first exposure to this nasty system, but the government has been building this system and honing it against people for over a decade.
I dont recall a huge stoush over the compulsory vax for kids.
I do remember being against the idea of making it compulsory.
Lets face it, you have the unlimited resources of the health/government sector to convince people to take something good for them, and you fail, maybe you are just shit at your job?
Top Endersays:
January 6, 2022 at 12:29 pm
We have a 10m pine on the edge of the front garden. Was thinking of taking it down myself but a few low council fences etc might make it difficult.
Two gums about 50cm each across at the base and 12-15m in height in the back yard.
Unless you have a huuuuge yard, all of those might come under “anything within 10 m of your house if it can fall on it” rule?
If we were thirdworlding, Dr. F., Novax would simply have had to pay off the right people.
This was federated government working seamlessly together under the benevolent oversight of politicians devoted to the common good and public safety. We’ll now stand for the national anthem.
Stix.
Exceptional comment.
Be a logic superspreader – put it up on GETTR.
Dr Bruce says you should read up on karlmarxininni and josefstalinimmimu who invented socialism 55,000 years ago somewhere near where the tent embassy in Canberra now is. It’s a sacred site. The whiteys with similar names are merely reincarnations courtesy of the red serpent (who is an old friend of the rainbow one).
The information from the gov health site is that the vaxx can be deferred for up to 6 months since past infections reduce the chance for reinfection for ‘at least 6 months’.
Natural immunity was extinguished in Victoria between December 15 and December 23. The rules changed yet again when officially issued in writing on December 23. COVID was no longer a legitimate reason for not being vaccinated. There were a number of blokes at work, unvaxxed and having had COVID stood down on 23 December after the rules based on “the science” changed yet again.
The Australian Government Fuckheads intimately fucking up peoples lives yet again.
Well it is to me. I didn’t know that.
No it wasn’t, it was yobbo and the rest of their view that vaccination and public health is a valid role of government and if you don’t get your kids vaccinated you should all just fuck off and die stupid anti-science christian bigots, and you have no ‘right’ to infect other people, so shutup about “No Jab / No Play / No Pay” tyranny, you’re embarrassing us cool kid libertarians who don’t want to be associated with things that might get us in trouble in the faculty lounge / student union / company picnic.
Except as we see now, in Australia, as far as the establishment is concerned, there are no such thing as “private businesses”.
Yobbo also fully supported the state fluoridating water, and attacked as dumb crazies the occasional actual libertarian person who turned up and queried how mass medication of the water supply by the state fitted with ‘libertarianism’. It’s all in the name of “Public Health”, of course.
The point isn’t that some random poster was a standard middle class professional loser with standard nasty professional middle class opinions and politics. It was that Yobbo was an LDP maaaate and LDP insider and once LDP candidate and was a literal representative of Australian “libertarianism” – as they defined it, throughout that period.
But forgive me for asking, but why is Yobbo such a focus as I really don’t get it.
They weren’t. My understanding of the quarantining of troops after WW1 only occurred when there was an outbreak of Spanish Flu on the ship they returned on. Those ships without an outbreak were not quarantined.
Vastly different from the incompetent way the buffoons in charge are handling the current piddly ‘pandemic’.
That’s odd dover, I was not only a supporter but hosted Yobbo’s site for a time back then. Don’t remember him being anything like that.
So I got a bulk 2kg and a usual 1kg packet of 3 star high octane bird-fuel.
Don’t squander it on the birds Bruce, hang onto it and double your money next week!
So, Boambee, you’re saying that if the tree has possibility of falling on the house, you can take it out?
And would you have to apply to the Council for a permit to do so?
I read on their website it’s $160 to process an application for up to three tress; more dosh for more than three.
The fat clown in Canberra may claim that testing is by choice, but he has unleashed a tornado of little hitlerian autocrats that will paralyse our communities.
The preschool around the corner has mandated continuous testing for their tots, otherwise no entry.
The two women that I spoke to attempted to complain to whatever agency controlls preschools.
“This office will reopen on Monday 10th January”!
The blackmail opportunities for Karens and Kens is at historic levels.
Xi dislikes diseased whities.
Hong Kong bans flights from eight countries including Australia (6 Jan)
That’s fine by me since you have rocks in your head if you want to go there, even in transit. This is why:
China mass harvesting Americans’ Facebook, Twitter data to bolster spying, propaganda (5 Jan)
Say anything not nice about His Supreme Leaderness and you could find yourself inside eight different Party members.
They don’t miss a trick, do they?
Closed borders and broken agreements: Spanish Flu in Australia
I suspect LDP mates have changed their tune quite a bit now though.
For those who like statistics:
For an accurate calculation of the vaccination deaths in the USA, using the VAERS figures:
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/how-to-verify-for-yourself-that-over?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozMjAzMDc5NywicG9zdF9pZCI6NDY1ODU5NzYsIl8iOiJRemcraCIsImlhdCI6MTY0MTQzMzg0NiwiZXhwIjoxNjQxNDM3NDQ2LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNTQ4MzU0Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.nqpRGNzVIHixTPcTcjz5n-_kDxkv-vNtlwqjphzXvtA
You’re dead right, Roger. Turdworlding.
On a related theme, while we all respect the opinions of those who have seen the guiding hand of the Great Reset over the past two years, I have to say that Klaus Schwab recently seems to have taken his eyes off the ball.
Or.
Perhaps he is infinitely cunning and this chaos is precisely planned and executed.
Twostix,
In the last two decades, the testing regime for vaccines has been sufficiently rigorous that the risk of childhood vaccination has been effectively zero. So people (including me) have gone along with it.
The existing crop of COVID vaccines have not been subjected to anything like this rigorous testing, and would have manifestly failed and been withdrawn if they had. So it’s a different situation here.
My biggest fear is that the appalling number of deaths and injuries from the COVID vaccines becomes a new (low) benchmark for safety, and more compulsory vaccinations and treatments are mandated even though they are non-zero risk – based on the “greater good” argument.
Is this the reason Djokovic’s Visa has been rejected?
Rogersays:
January 6, 2022 at 12:51 pm
I read on their website it’s $160 to process an application for up to three tress; more dosh for more than three.
They don’t miss a trick, do they?
The Feraldton council sent a man around to “register” all the trees in peoples front yards. (and Id assume any big enough to be visible from the road in the back yard)
Not by asking residents or anything, but by snooping around taking pictures of peoples yards.
All being kept on a database somewhere to leap out and fine proles with the audacity to make the baby Gaia weep if they chop down a shithouse gumtree.
Id be guessing nearly every metro council has done the same.
Right, JC, but the issue at the time was forcing doctors to arrange an abortion against their will.
Which becomes law in Queensland on 1 January 2023.
WEF & Davos types presently remind me of the European elites just before WWI hit.
I largely know of Yobbo from his contributions at the Cat under Soon and Sinc. There was never any problem until I became more conservative and began to robustly defend arguments for the existence of God, marriage, Christianity, and the like. This began around 2010 IIRC.
They have an excellent candidate running down here in Vic – a renowned neurologist and an ardent Roman Catholic. So yea times change.
He was the reason I rejoined the party.
But going back to my question, you’re against all vaccines, right ?
It’s best, and necessary really, in Australian outsider politics to start with reality: there is no concept of private businesses in Australia anymore.
Businesses are the government’s tax collectors. Businesses are now vaccine and compliance and morality enforcers. Businesses – even at the operational level, operate only with permission of the state, in accordance with the state’s plans for the industry or area in which they operate, which can for most businesses, be revoked at any time.
So libertarian ideas of ‘private businesses can do what they like’ don’t even make the slightest bit of sense in modern Australia.
They need to start at the beginning with “there must be a separation of businesses and state”. Do that, then appeal to ‘private businesses’. Otherwise under the current classical fascistic regime of businesses being quasi-arms of the state, they’re just handing unlimited power to Labor and Scott Morrison who order businesses to be state enforcers of X, Y, and Z then use the exact phrase “private businesses can do as they like”, to cover their mob-gangsta power wielded at arms length like system.
The Vic legislation re abortion and doctor’s conscientious objection was 2008.
I suspect that depends on who you ask, Vicki.
If it was ATAGI, the answer would be yes.
This whole debacle is taking on shades of a territorial dispute between BATF&E, the FBI & the DHS.
Dover
Can you explain the contrast though. Why the misgivings about Yobbo and his opposition to Christianity when you have one compulsive commenter here who most likely belongs to a Christian cult that considers Roman Catholicism the mark of the beast and the papal position as Satan’s representative on earth.
You also had a threadster having to tell us he’s an atheist on Xmas day. I’ve never understood why atheists have to tell us they’re atheists – like if you believe in nothing then why give a shit about writing that you believe in nothing and having to tell everybody. It’s ironic for a host of reasons. Seriously, why Yobbo?
#metoo
I was very critical of Lleyenholm at times.
I thought he was a bit too prone to the smartarse one-line media grab and getting into futile stoushes with the likes of Sarah Sea-Patrol.
Burnt a lot of goodwill.
The two Vic Upper House LDP members have largely redeemed the party in my eyes.
NSW claims man in his 20s has died OF covid, straight-up.
Doing the morning news read, I am more concerned than ever that society is on the verge of collapse. I won’t be surprised if defence forces are delivering food and patrolling the streets within a few months. Morrison has no idea what he’s doing. Wunderkind Perrottet is now begging employers o stop requiring workers to have a test before resuming their jobs. They created a two-tier, fear-drugged society and now they can’t turn it off.
People seem to like to ignore the fact that children used to die, with monotonous regularity from the diseases childhood vaccination now prevent, in the first world anyhow.
They continue to die from them in the third world.
Sending children into day care exploded in the 80s and 90s, along with immigration from the third world and it became evident that low immunisation rates was putting young children at risk.
I don’t recall there being any controversy when child care payments became a reward for vaccination when my youngest entered the system.
Kennedy is a vaccinations causes autism true believer and a nasty crank, if you are citing him as one of the good guys you’ve lost the plot.
Conservatives hate Libertarians.
Because Conservatives can’t get shit done without the help of Libertarians.
If an issue lines up where there is a common goal, you get a result.
Then the Conservatives go back to tutting about the war on drugs & Libertarians say go fuck yourselves.
I dare say covid hysteria will settle
Hopefully by the end of January.
Roger.
If George Clooney or any of his ilk had accidentally filled out form 302(C) instead of the correct form 221(D), I very much doubt we would have heard about it.
George’s minders would have been given the correct form whilst George was en route to his beachside mansion and told to scan the form it and drop it into the office tomorrow.
” I’ve never understood why atheists have to tell us they’re atheists – like if you believe in nothing then why give a shit about writing that you believe in nothing and having to tell everybody.”
It’s the same with vegans, they always have to tell us they’re vegans . I find atheists and vegans need validation.
Don’t be dumb. I’ve played this game for a decade. My kids have had more needles than you can count on two hands.
Not all of them though.
No, we make those choices. Like, you know, the cervical cancer vaccine that they tell boys to get.
I was very critical of Lleyenholm at times.
Rightfully so.
When he ran dead on the trade union legislation, I binned the LDP.
But considering the actions of the brave chaps in Victoria, putting themselves in harms way, they’ll be getting my votes at the next Federal election.
Christopher Pyne as a woman.
Kevin Rudd as a fictional cartoon character.
And Joe Biden as Uncle Martin.
I love the Chinese. They said that crud came from Australian frozen meat, a lab in the US, sometimes Italy and several other places. Now they’ve found the real culprit.
Omicron might have come from a mouse, but what kind of mouse? (MedXpress, 5 Jan)
Yes people, you heard it here first. Mickey Mouse brought a plague to the world.
I say, you over there. Yes, you.
Work a little harder, and to the left, would you.
It cuts both ways. Libertarians are hardly innocent in this dispute.
As believable as the claims last year that nearly everyone being admitted to hospital with Covid was begging for the vaccine.
While Pauline Hanson was zooming from home, while she was free to roam around QLD & front up to protests, the Victorian LDP were on the steps of parliament house at the risk of getting the wood shampoo & pepper sprayed.
“I was very critical of Lleyenholm at times.
I thought he was a bit too prone to the smartarse one-line media grab and getting into futile stoushes with the likes of Sarah Sea-Patrol.
Burnt a lot of goodwill.
The two Vic Upper House LDP members have largely redeemed the party in my eyes.”
Quite so, despite voting for Lleyenholm in both 2013 and 2016, he was never the most inspiring libertarian around. As for his defamation case with Hanson-Dung, that was his own fault. He went on Sky (Outsiders) and repeated what he had said to her in the senate. I watched the train wreck and I was dismayed he’d done this. I knew he would be in trouble legally….the rest is history.
I’ve joined the Lib Dems because the two Vic members have inspired me…and the party, as far as I’m concerned, is now the closest party in this country to what inspired Bob Menzies to create the Liberal party in 1944.
LOL, yet again notafan, from her jaunt to Italy no less, on the same day that an unvaccinated tennis player is banned and deported from Australia, a week after yet another Victorian self-imolated thanks to the final fruition of her ‘non controversial’ vaccine mandates for children when they were brought in, drops by to destroy my opposition.
Thanks!
Libertarians don’t care about Conservatives.
Conservatives hate Libertarians.
That’s the difference.
Notafan in 2040 “I don’t recall there being any controversy when vaccines were mandated for employment back in 2020”.
Myrmidons to the Greeks are what Libertarians are to the Conservative movement.
Conservatives fuck around on the beach where as the Myrmidons know what the real goals are.
Twostix
I’m notplaying anything. It’s a legit question because I don’t know. However, the way you’ve spoken recently suggests you are an antivaxxer and against all vaccines. That’s the question I was asking and not if your kids are vaxxed as that doesn’t necessarily disclose your own personal view. Clarify it.
We’re living in a society where Mrs. FitzSimons has more sway over public opinion than the PM.
Why Yobbo? Twostix brought him up when someone asked for an example from the old Cat. As to the misgivings, there aren’t any. I just had a rule back then of responding to new atheist shitbagging.
First is a rule that says you can’t cut down trees on your own property.
All over Victoria.
They say when Lindsay Fox bought a house at Portsea he applied for a permit to cut down 7 tress that had grown to block the views. Council bugmen said. No. He offered to plant replacement tees at locations to e agreed with Council. Bugmen said no. Offered to plant agreed replacement trees and to contribute to tree planting on Council land. Bugmen said no. Phoned Council and asked what the maximum fine was for illegal tree felling. Bugman said $10,000. Fox asked, per tree or per total atrocity. Bugman said per tree. Bugman then heard voice at the other end of the phone yelling into the distance “let her rip boys”, and 7 chainsaws starting up.
Say what you like about obnoxious obscenely wealthy tycoons, they occasionally do some good for a free society.
No, the difference is they have differeent answers to the fundamental question of philosophical anthropology: What is the nature and destiny of humankind?
As a result their goals may sometimes overlap but they will never align.
Richard Peppard is an excellent candidate. The best. Stix might even vote for him. He’s not big government so I have my doubts though. 🙂
Can we say escalating yet ? Serbian protestors with flags gathering outside Novak’s quarantine hotel (mentioned fleetingly on ABC news).
ftb
Why do you think it’s the US? There is an opinion that this is a genuine anti-government protest. Among the demands are dropping of the vaccine mandates and QR-codes system.
Roger, I have looked recently but the Liberal party’s manifesto is about 90% libertarian. They just ignore it though.
My experience with libertarians has not been like that. The ones I’ve had anything to do with in the past have been akin to vegans or atheist’s “I have the one true way” with a special hate for religious conservatives.
I don’t feel there is any party in Australia that represents my views. Think I ended up putting rise up or some other genuine ratbag party as my first preference in the last federal election simply because it was the party I hated the least. The perils of living in a safe labor seat.
Fair enough.
As the overwhelming majority of hospital and ICU Covid patients are unvaxxed, apparently, it is curious that begging for a jab when at death’s door seems to have gone out of fashion.
Was it COVID or the vaccine.
Top Endersays:
January 6, 2022 at 12:45 pm
So, Boambee, you’re saying that if the tree has possibility of falling on the house, you can take it out?
Scan back, GreyRanga mentioned that possibility, I lifted it from his comment.
Permits? Naturally, can’t have the peasants doing what they like on their own property!
I suspect that the rule stemmed from a case near Nowra, IIRC in the 1980s/1990s. A couple applied for permission to remove a big gum near their house. Permission refused, but the tree came down in a storm a bit later, landing on the house and killing the husband. I suspect that it cost Nowra council a lot in compo, and led to new “guidelines”.
The best example of just how ungrateful Conservatives are the recent quarterly filings for US candidates.
Peter Thiel has supported dozens of candidates & that has resulted in most of them out found raising not just their primary opponents but in some cases the sitting Democrat.
So a gay, Libertarian billionaire who is supporting, bankrolling candidates who’s key platform is reforming section 230, is doing more than the sitting Conservatives like Jim Jordan & Liz Cheney.
When the GOP re-takes the House in 2022 & maybe the Senate, it won’t be because of Conservatives.
It will be because of Libertarians.
And for that, they’ll get zero thanks.
And instead of being thanked, the Conservatives will rip up time & political capital on issues like abortion.
Fighting over a shit piece of beach instead of being focused on the real target.
Just in, http://www.bullshitnews.com has been informed that Amal Clooney, who is holidaying in Aust. with husband George will be defending Novak in his court hearing. Amal , is a British-Lebanese barrister at specialising in international law and human rights.
Regarding Djokovic…
Travelling to Australia with his coach and entourage wouldn’t have been a cheap exercise. Doesn’t Tennis Australia (or whoever the organising body is) usually pay top players an appearance fee to help with these expenses?
Given that he came but is unable to play through no fault of his own, will Djokovic still get his appearance money? Who will he sue for reimbursement if he doesn’t?
I don’t recall there being any controversy when child care payments became a reward for vaccination when my youngest entered the system.
I think that might be completely arse about.
An existing child payment was removed if kiddies werent jabbed.
As well as existing services becoming off limits.
It was a shit idea.
You are effectively running the “my vaccinated child will get sick/die because you arent vaccinated” same as the mongs are doing with covid jabs.
As a result their goals may sometimes overlap but they will never align.
That’s the hope.
Doing the morning news read, I am more concerned than ever that society is on the verge of collapse.
Bring it on! Give The Little Bloke and I am excuse to never return from the farm!
There is an opinion that this is a genuine anti-government protes
The legacy media reporting this, now.
The story has been brewing, for the last couple of months in a range of resource focused research, with all fingers pointing to foreign bad actors.
And it aint China.
Djokovic…mate, what were you thinking?
Just like we should not be going to China, you should not be coming here.
Boycott tyranny.
Never come back.
Nothing against you mate, but why participate in the bread and circuses of tyrants?
…..asked for a comment , Amal said..” travel visas and exemptions should not hinder travel for the rich and famous’..
Sounds like something libertines would like!
Sorry if I offend my libertarian friends but the SSM stuff was very revealing. It took me a solid year and a half of detailed argument to get Dot to accept that the true libertarian answer would have been to remove the word “marriage” from the Marriage Act of 1960. It is to his credit he eventually accepted this. That would have kept the word marriage sacred in Christian sense whilst legislating that all conjugal arrangements in secular Australian law would be civil contracts that were entirely equal.
I have no problem with the latter legal approach but stealing a religious term and perverting it is insulting to Christians, and I suspect also to other religions.
“So a gay, Libertarian billionaire who is supporting, bankrolling candidates who’s key platform is reforming section 230, is doing more than the sitting Conservatives like Jim Jordan & Liz Cheney.
When the GOP re-takes the House in 2022 & maybe the Senate, it won’t be because of Conservatives.
It will be because of Libertarians.
And for that, they’ll get zero thanks.
And instead of being thanked, the Conservatives will rip up time & political capital on issues like abortion.
Fighting over a shit piece of beach instead of being focused on the real target.”
Well said Bern. I’m pretty sure the GOP will retake control of the House and they might even retake the senate however what will the GOP conservatives do? Nothing, they’ll just sit on their tuches…..just like they did in 2017 and 2018.
Babasays:
January 6, 2022 at 12:17 pm
My double-jabbed 40 year old SIL spent last night sleeping in a tent in their front yard…..because fears may have been exposed to Omicron at work.
Ordinarily, that would probably win ‘Stupid of the Day’ but the Djokovic saga pips it at the post.
Australia, internationally famous for being completely fucked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaEwZ6lYkho
NO OPTIMISM, MUCH HOPE
by George Weigel
1 . 5 . 22
My experience with libertarians has not been like that
There is a range of people of all political affiliations.
Example, at my former place of employment, I used to work with a chap who I only found out recently was the biggest non-union fund raiser for the ALP in NSW.
I can’t remember him mentioning politics ever.
No one ever bothered about unrecorded influenza cases.
the true libertarian answer
Spoken like a true conservative.
The “only true libertarian answer” is a contradiction.
Answers could range from anything like sitting at home, smoking a joint and watching Family Guy.
Surely Craig Tiley (Tennis Australia CEO) must resign?
He’s just another grovelling toady who has refused to challenge the unlawful edicts of both Morro and Dan. Had no other choice, since he lives off public cash.
Looks like he thought he could get Djoka in if he’d just strip naked and cover himself in lard to squeeze through the bars of prison Australia.
Slight miscalculation. Now looks like a complete turkey. Gotta go.
rickw
The 6 month exemption continues to apply, according to the fed health site.
😀
Just don’t steal other people’s property and we’ll get along just fine.
Surely Craig Tiley (Tennis Australia CEO) must resign?
As long as he keeps his mouth shut, he’ll be rewarded.
This! and it will not happen though a politician only buy way of consumer/shareholder advocacy.
Top Endersays:
January 6, 2022 at 12:29 pm
Two gums about 50cm each across at the base and 12-15m in height in the back yard.
My understanding is that if the circumference of the tree 1m up from the base is greater than 1.5m it may be protected. Check local regulations (Local Council) but a circumference can be as small as 400mm for some protected species. Also, the size of the canopy is a factor, plus whether it is a declared ‘significant’ tree (irrespective of size), native species (or declared pest), whether it has twin trunks…….
Good luck.
Probably has a lot to do with the ones I knew didn’t have much life experience, mostly just out of school or early 20’s. Found this cool this that was the bestest ever and bob’s your auntie’s live in lover.
rickw
The 6 month exemption continues to apply, according to the fed health site.
Yep, was just pointing out that VIC had eliminated this in their latest round of Pandemic Rules….
My double-jabbed 40 year old SIL spent last night sleeping in a tent in their front yard…..because fears may have been exposed to Omicron at work.
Dangerous times, a large portion of the population have lost their fucking minds.
They would be using drones and google maps these days to keep track of tree numbers.
Twostix:
The interesting aspect of the ‘antivaxxer’ claim is that 99.9999% of the Australian population have been vaccinated since birth.
The National Immunisation Program Schedule.
By the time the kids turn 18, they’ve been swimming in the stuff.
Anti vaxxers are as scarce as rocking horse shit.
Just realised how Orwellian that reads, we are totally screwed by these cretins.
rickw
The 6 month exemption is according to the AGDH and applies to Vic as well. The exemption needs to be signed by GP. Doubt that vic could simply eliminate that prerogative.
mc:
You are watching gaslighting in real time.
Don’t question your sanity – question the sanity of the people around you and work out what they’re doing.
In this case it’s about making you doubt the evidence of your own eyes – then they will put something really crazy in front of you and tell you you’re really looney.
And they’ll chuck you in gaol if you don’t believe them.
There will be a NT-wide lockout from 1pm today until midday on Monday.
Gunner sneaks in to add to the chaos. That expected March election will be getting kicked down the road…
This is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. I don’t want Albo as PM but Scomo is just so wishy washy he is reaping what he has sowed.
GreyRanga:
Stand in line you pushy bastard.
…and don’t call me Shirley.
Have a peek at what’s happening at this very moment in Kazakstan.
This is sick.
This is why I treat myself every day to look at this blog……to remind myself I am not going mad, this is REALLY happening.
I actually think the maggots who helped create this mayhem are themselves getting a little “nervy”, as it is getting out of THEIR control.
It’s pure spite. “I’ll teach you not to show me respect.”
You are watching gaslighting in real time.
It is.
No one gas lights better than Biden, but the state premiers are doing their best to catch him.
They’ve had to update that one…
My nearest Woolworths is 85km away, although there is a little IGA at Berry Springs which is only 60km away.
🙁
I am refusing ONE vaccine and get called an anti vaxxer.
It’s a meaningless term. There are a multitude of valid reasons to oppose the vaccine mandates. The best of all is there is a mandate.
Pell – no way would I join a pile on, he was singled out and suffered a miscarriage of justice. What C.L. thinks is really unfortunate. No way would I want to be at a dinner party of people who hate me. At least Cardinal Pell may be interesting to talk to. In fact the Pell matter is a good talking point to being back true liberal ideals to the criminal justice system.
Non voluntary abortions for doctors.
No. Just no. I don’t even think it should be subsidised.
SSM – have it for equality before the law reasons. There is no other reason. Section 28A of the SDA stops a lot of the trolling lefties threatened and religious conservatives threatened. I still think the ballot was illegal and had no faith in it being anonymous. Marriage statutes should really be binned. Leave it up to your solicitor or your priest. It should be an area of private law like wills and estates.
Vaccines – it is hard to argue against the principle of welfare being conditional. The thing is, it naively assumes they are all truly safe and effective.
The last year or so has demonstrated how political medicine approvals really are.
A voucher system and giving schools to local communities would let the government wash their hands of this. It would be better to abolish public schools or in the least, compulsory education. The internet has everything you need bar basic literacy.
work is not a reason to leave home for the unvaccinated, Mr Gunner said.
You sadistic, evil, corrupt, venal sack of dingo afterbirth.
They are now at the “we need someone, somewhere, to take a shot at a politician (hopefully not me, as i have bodyguards)” so they can re-other anyone against this massive tyrannical shit as bad people.
And 70% of the population will cheer them as they do it.
I hope they end up in old peoples homes staffed by sadistic staff who use them to stage bumfights between hawking them out for pre-necrophiliacs to enjoy.
Don’t hold back – tell us what you really think!
Just caused at huge blowup at Villa Megan as the Prince simply cannot see the double standards at work here. The insanity is pressing down so hard on me that I’m having trouble accessing the calm part of my brain.
If Morrison doesn’t immediately bring his Commonwealth Territory bitch under control stick a fork in him.
Seriously. If the Commonwealth can’t control it’s own territory using the many tools and levers it has and allows this monstrous escalation and declaration of war against “unvaccinated” – aka perfectly healthy normal people to stand he’s finished fuck him.
Mole wins the Finest Insult of the Day award.
Sorry, I don’t see why. He’s just another one hopelessly dependent on government dispensed OPM. Now he’s just an onlooker in another episode of SloMo populism. Ask Christine Holgate how these things end.
South Park was prophetic.
And these people are allowed, nay required, to vote ?
I thought the correct answer is to remove the Marriage Act entirely.
Cassie:
…and Fighter Pilots.
Stay stong and your not alone, Megan.
and may allow the representation of such territory in either House of the Parliament to the extent and on the terms which it thinks fit.
The commonwealth power over territories goes all the way. Morrison, if he wasn’t such a fag, could literally remove the NT from federal parliament – that’s the level of control he has over them.
So don’t let him get away with pretending his hands are tied or anything gay like that. The territories belong to the Commonwealth, no matter who the managers are, like a CEO he is ultimately in charge of them.
Of course he won’t. No one resigns for fuck-ups anymore. What has been the biggest fuck-up this century? Afghanistan right? Not only has no one resigned or been sacked, but the culprits actually claim it as some sort of victory!
That is the world we live in now.
…and Fighter Pilots.
Story from Sir Kevin Anderson’s autobiography, from his early days at the Bar.
He was at an up country magistrates court, and the case before his came on was two blokes from the local RAAF base who’d been caught red handed doing some illegal duck shooting.
The Fisheries and Wildlife officer gave evidence that they’d confessed to shooting 16 ducks but that Fisheries and Wildlife could only find 11 ducks in their possession.
A voice yelled out from the back of the court “they must be fighter pilots”.
Stix, you’re answer is ambiguous. When a direct, simple to understand question is asked and you’re equivocating, it therefore strongly suggests you’re hiding your real preferences. I take it that you’re completely against any form of vaccination. This means you’re essentially against all the disease eradication programs like smallpox, anthrax, polio etc. What a ghastly position to take if in fact you really do hold this view. Without doubt, the eradication of these diseases or holding them at arms length has been an incredible human accomplishment and you would like to see them make a return. In the parallel universe in which you live and with these diseases kicking arse, let me know how you go contracting an anthrax, smallpox, polio combination laced with a little covid to make it that extra bit contagious. I’ll be waiting in this universe to tell me how you make out in the other one. Call me, don’t be a stranger . Call me from the parallel ICU.
No JC. Polio and smallpox (and the rest) were renamed. Doctors typically refuse to diagnose or test for the disease if the patient is vaccinated.
If you’re not brainwashed this is obvious when you look at data for any paralysis (polio) or liver cancer (hepatitis b) or invasive disease (Hib/prevnar) or congenital defects (rubella).
Helen what’s the reality on the ground in the NT. Big territory, big mouthed clown, but is life normal, what’s the feeling?
132andbush:
Then who is this?
JC are going senile?
What the hell are you on about?
Which part of “my children have had more needles than you can count on two hands” translates to
What the hell is happening to you man?
From 28 Dec:
Rats abandoning foundering vessels – or pushed out.
The commonwealth power over territories goes all the way. Morrison, if he wasn’t such a fag, could literally remove the NT from federal parliament – that’s the level of control he has over them.
In order to punt the NT reps and senators he’d have to get an amendment to the Commonwealth Electoral Act. Unfortunately that means that even if all his own spivs, crims and imbeciles in the Senate voted in favour, the other spivs, crims and imbeciles could block it.
There is not doubt that the polling is in and they’re finding that the remaining unvaccinated people and their sympathisers are overwhelmingly anti-labor and highly motivated politically.
Seeing the exodus from mandate heavy states, these “mandates” are starting to look like modern purge and exile operations.
Make up your mind Figures.
Are they real or due to stress?
Plus I have septic ready for you to test out your theory.
Yes, I saw that answer and it’s a cop out. Immunizing your kids doesn’t explain what your views are because it’s impossible to raise kids in an urban setting in a western country without child immunization. I asked you specifically, if you’re for or against all vaccination. I did not ask you about your children as that is an entirely different question and has no relevance in this case to what I asked.
Are you for or against?
It’s an example of the level of power the Commonwealth wields over its own territories, i.e unlimited. This isn’t just Gunner doing this stuff, he’s doing it because he’s being allowed to do it by the territories ultimate bosses: Canberra.
Are you having a stroke?
A bloke called Will Gray just posted this on Jo Nova’s blog. I am sure neither he, nor Jo, will mind me conveying it here. It reminds us of the imbecility that we are faced with::
The impact of 0micr0n since Dec 5,2021 (so, 1 month):
Ages —- cases —- survival rates
0 to 9 —-23102 —- 100%
10 to 19 — 38984 — 100%
20 to 29 — 90303 — 100%
30 to 39 — 51080 — 99.998%
40 to 49 — 31249 — 99.98%
50 to 59 — 26138 — 99.95%
60 to 69 — 15219 — 99.9%
70 to 79 — 7804 —- 99.1%
80 to 89 — 3324 —- 97.8%
90+ ——- 880 —– 92.9%
And the data for all age groups, all variants, all comorbidities, since the start of the CV in Australia:
01-01-2022
Total cases: 349,510
Total deaths: 2,224
Deaths by Age:
0 to 9 years – 1 death, 0.0022% risk. 99.998% survive
10 to 19 years – 2 deaths, 0.004% risk. 99.997% survive
20 to 29 years – 9 deaths, 0.011% risk. 99.989% survive
30 to 39 years – 20 deaths, 0.033% risk. 99.97% survive
40 to 49 years – 47 deaths, 0.113% risk. 99.89% survive
50 to 59 years – 122 deaths, 0.4% risk. 99.6% survive
60 to 69 years – 232 deaths, 1.21% risk. 98.8% survive
70 to 79 years – 496 deaths, 4.76% risk. 95.2% survive
80 to 89 years – 778 deaths, 14.3% risk. 85.7% survive
90+ years – 513 deaths, 26.9% risk. 73.1% survive
All age groups = 0.64% risk, 99.36% survival.
And we have had another 262,596 cases since the 1st, and no new deaths in the under 30s.
says:
January 6, 2022 at 12:23 pm
Assuming the local council does not possess aerial photography from a couple of years ago to play ‘Spot the Difference’ against the next set of images…
Okay stix, no biggie. I won’t ask again as I think we now know where your coming from. As I said, call me from the parallel ICU as I want to know how you’re making out.
If you’re not brainwashed this is obvious when you look at data for any paralysis (polio)
Figures, we’ve been through this before. Paralysis can arise in ways that have different symptomatic profiles (e.g. slow and steady deterioration over some years, or rapid onset) and different pathology (e.g. deterioration of the nerve sheaths, or deterioration of the nerves themselves). The medical profession has no difficulty in distinguishing between a case of paralysis that presents the way paralysis appears in conjunction with the polio virus and paralysis that presents in a different way without the virus being present.
Not everything in the world can be comprehensively explained by a single issue binary contrast like “paralysed”/”not paralysed”.
My only hope – if, indeed, Djokovic is excluded – is that the Australian Open is removed from the Grand Slam whatever status and downgraded to whatever the Hopman Cup is.
People – including Sco Mor’on and his protege, the tinpot Hitler, Kim Il-Dan – have to learn that actions have consequences.
NT’s CHO.
QLD’s CHO.
Very normal people.
I have no idea what you’re asking me.
I think you’re doing the “your kids are all vaccinated but you’re still an anti-vaxxer” thing, but I don’t want to presume you’re an idiot like that.
Not sure I’m really a good example.
Hubby and I live in a donga on 20 acres about 100km southwest of Darwin. Hubby only goes past our front gate for fishing or rare trips to town for stuff he can’t get me to pick up. I go to town once or twice a week for shopping, a dance/exercise class and lunches with friends.
To date, lockdowns and lockouts have been short and we’ve just stayed at home. A couple of times I’ve had to go out for a quick grocery shop, but have been able to do that without any problem except wearing a mask (I still have half the packet of disposable masks that I bought in March 2020).
I haven’t been QR coding into venues unless directly asked. If you hover around the QR sign for a minute with your phone in your hand before walking in, most places don’t question whether you’ve actually scanned in or not.
It might be different for people who live in town.
I’ve said before that I am not going to be a martyr and that if it starts to affect things I like to do, then I’ll probably give in and get vaccinated. Hubby isn’t happy about that, but agrees that it’s my choice. I’ll give things a week or so to settle down, but I think it might finally have reached the stage where I buckle. I like my lunches with friends.
Figures
Are you in Queensland?
You have this rather stupid pattern of making an argument that begins from an assumption, your own, and building it into a crescendo that fits your argument.
Do you realise, after it has been pointed out to you, that it makes you look stupid?
Well, looky here:
“excluded low-vaccination community.” you say? What a weird choice of words.
The conspiracy theory dystopian hell predicted in March 2020 by tin foil hat wearing lunatics arrived and nobody noticed.
People who believe in vaccines are stark raving mad.
Both of these quotes are so mind numbingly stupid.
Obviously it can be caused by stress *and* real.
As for JC’s comment that’s just bizarre. Do you actually believe that the fatality rate of unvaxed kids in Australia is 100 per cent!!!!?????!!!!
The belief in vaccines is psychosis. I used to believe it was just a form of psychosis but I think it actually is psychosis itself. Get me a guy who thinks he’s a lampshade but won’t get needles and he’s intellectually superior to a CEO who gets flu shots.
Oh here’s another example of the psychosis in action.
Every pro-vaxer I’ve ever met has believed that doctors all have access to time machines. Doctors use these time machines to go back to before a vaccine is introduced and use modern laboratory techniques to retrospectively test 100 per cent of the population (symptomatic and asymptomatic).
This way, pro-vaxers argue, we can definitively compare numbers pre-vaccine vs post-vaccine.
Figures, truly, just believe what you want to believe as I really don’t care one way or another. I accept you hold a different opinion and that’s fine with me, but I won’t agree to disagree because I believe your views are wrong headed.
But really, no biggie. I’m more curious though.. Are you from Queensland?
Did a quick shop this morning as I’m down to my last carton of baked beans.
As promised, I wore one of my T shirts with the star and biohazard symbol. I was asked pointedly on entry if I had a mask.
“No, I’m good.”
“Are you sure?”
“Yair. It’s cool.”
(A quick look at the symbol – ‘Gawd this ones a nutter.’)
Quite a few smiles and G’days.
Only one “Bloody Hell” + eyeroll.
One more offer of a face nappy, “No thanks.”
Successful shop – Baked Beans on special…
Twostix,
I feel compelled to correct you here, because your implication is that they are giving a female specific vaccine to boys.
Wrong. It’s a HPV (Human Papilloma Virus) vaccine, not a “cervical cancer vaccine”.
In girls the consequences tends to manifest as Cervical Cancer. In boys, it tends to manifest in the throat. Other options are available, of course, but suffice to say that men die from it, too. In fact, men die from it more because there is a pap smear screening program which picks it up early in women, making is it more often treatable. No such screening service existed for men. You generally only find it after it has metastasised and is at large in the lymphatic system, and spreading to other organs. Often too late. If you survive it, the treatment results in horrible collateral damage.
The cancers from HPV can take up to 20 years to activate, before going beresque. For middle aged males, it’s extremely dangerous. I was given the next best thing to a death sentence, and was EXTREMELY fortunate to survive it. If anything can save my sons from a similar experience, I’ll support it, especially if the risks from the vaccine are minimal and it’s been tested thoroughly.
You can question the cost/benefit analysis of the vaccine, but best not to do so based on gender.
Figures, you misunderstood my comment about raising kids. I suggested it was impossible because you are not able to send kids to school without them being immunized. Of course , you can live off grid and then no one knows nor cares. You could raise little Tarzans in the middle of nowhere… and little Janes even.
Are you in Brisbane or the nether regions?
Just back from a surf so catching up:
Yes. I’m far more interested in the person then the party and these two have been very good.
Sure they do, when they need conservative votes, otherwise, you’re right, they’ll have the support of the liberal left.
Mater I know it’s the HPV vaccine, but the rhetoric they use to sell the HPV vaccine to parents of boys is it’s to protect all the girls they root from cervical cancer.
Thanks Mater.
I didn’t know that.
Yes, we need to be careful about converting an arguably genuine concern about these vaccines and the speed of development into a rabid and irrational fear of all vaccines.
Dot
It would be better to abolish public schools or in the least, compulsory education. The internet has everything you need bar basic literacy.
My FiL left school after finishing primary level (this was a century ago). His handwriting was beautiful, his grammar and spelling exemplary, and his sentence construction coherent. His arithmetical skills far exceeded those of many recent school kids. Given the famous Three Rs, any moderately intelligent person can expand their knowledge exponentially, as long as they are able to sort the Internet wheat from the vast amount of chaff there.
Cheney and Jordan are establishment conservatives, in other words, right-liberals. If the Thiel-backed candidates get in it will because America First conservatives got behind them.
And Trump was the closest we’ve come in a long time in a quasi libertarian president.
Apart from being bald headed flogs, they look like undertakers.
Apologies. Your comment is epically wrong but it’s not quite as retarded as what I initially understood.
There are no states in Australia that mandate vaccines for school. Daycare and pre-school yes. Not normal school.
At any rate, even if you had to homeschool them, it would hardly render it “impossible”.
I’ve never heard it sold that way, and I’d never VOLUNTARILY allow my children to be vaccinated in order to protect someone else. It might be a side benefit, but I’d never allow it if it wasn’t of direct benefit to them. That’s immoral.
This is why I hate the fact that our kids are being Covid vaccinated under the auspices of protecting the elderly and to prevent the necessity to lock society down, not for their direct, medical benefit.
Really? Are you certain? I thought that it was like in the US. No immunization papers no school.
Okay, it renders it possible for .00001% of the population.
You can JC. That’s another lie they let flow and many parents preemptively cave because they don’t know any different. It’s daycare and pre-schools and things that children are “banned” from – thanks to Morrison.
Public health nazis have had a lot of time and practice at creating the illusion of doom for “unvaccinated” parents (I.e anyone whose child has skipped a single dose of anything anytime in their short life) that they’re using on everyone now.
As some western communist once said, of their tactics “the fear of the thing, is often worse than the thing itself”, these weirdos are absolute masters of creating The Thing and letting fear – fear of authority, fear of social discomfort, fear of camps, whatever – in people’s minds do the rest.
Figures – I used to have flu, badly roughly every 18 months. With many allergy issues due to immune system trying to kill what was infecting – it’d get the flu virus but also would latch onto pollen and etc around at the same time.
When fluvax became available for the general public it was a Godsend. Only time in about fifteen years I got flu was the swine flu which didn’t get in the mix for that year. And I had sufficient residual immunity to only get a mild dose.
So your comment, respectfully, is silly.
I am caustic about the bat crud “vaccines” on their merits, and the data, plus the crazy banning of alternatives. No one ever banned alternatives for flu treatment, only this time we have such insanity.
No they don’t. There’s zero actual evidence linking the HPV to any cancer.
In fact, the very notion of a delayed effect from the virus that you refer to would mean that it was impossible to vaccinate against it (because long term exposure to the virus obviously doesn’t immunize).
All of this is backed up by real world data.
Cervical cancer rates have not improved since the vaccine. Anywhere.
I think I’d know.
And blamed the the poor mugs they sent to Afghanistan for having the temerity to actually kill the locals as instructed to do.