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Although its a genuine grassroots part of the canon, and the contention around South Vietnam conscription, I don’t think A…
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fetal alcohol syndrome
I think the mouse origin is pretty well settled. Peer-reviewed paper. From China. They should know.
The first Omicron samples were identified in Botswana taken from diplomats from an unnamed country some of whom had been to Europe.
Lab mice or African wild mice? What is most likely?
Although I am not a doctor I have been told I am a worm, a real and actual worm.
Metoo#
If you’re lurking, Dukie, please come back. We need people like you more than ever now.
No JC.
I already lost the first leg of the bet at midnight last night (7th).
Second leg runs out on the 21st.
Anyway, it’s now only a prediction.
As I recall the bet wasn’t taken up.
Bruce of Newcastlesays:
January 8, 2022 at 3:23 pm
Is that the France which has zero tolerance for the unvaccinated? Or a different France?
Apparently a different one Bruce. I can only presume the Minister’s response is a knife twisting over the ex submarine contract.
I gots to admit Head Prefect, I now take your advice over Dr Malone.
How much Pfizer stock did you buy?
“I miss Dr. Duk.”
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen Duk pop up on C.L.’s blog…along with the greatly missed Tel.
Last two not quite correct. The one referred to being ‘crushed’ might have actually been beaten to death by Capitol Police. Sicknick, the Capitol Police officer, died of a stroke the next day, and they knew this from an autopsy conducted within days. Even so, they pretended for weeks and months, including through the impeachment proceedings, and through a ceremony were he was held in state at the Capitol, that he was beaten to death by protestors.
Do you have a link for those stats JC?
“Then I posted this in response to the hysterical pile-ons of tall-poppyism on someone with a bit of cash who was basically doing no harm. (Reminds of something, somewhere, somehow, I dunno).
To say nothing of those Hollywood stars and other arrivals on our shores over the past two years who have been given special exemptions and considerations. Our treatment of this tennis player who has come to play in the AUSTRALIAN Open is a disgrace, catching him in a welter of insane and changing rules and regulations he clearly tried to comply with. Now the mob is howling for his blood, huge class envy on display, definitely the Aussie ‘tall poppy’ syndrome, one of our very worst attributes, when he seeks the same sort of treatments other elite sportspeople have received.”
Thanks Lizzie, my thoughts too. The hypocrisy on display is staggering.
Vicki,
How do the young ones fake the code?
That would be a brilliant hack.
The ultimate problem isn’t that the drugs don’t work unless you put strict software end user licence agreement style definitions around what the the word ‘work’ means (immunity? no. stops you catching it? no. stops you spreading it? no, lasts more than a few months….no.) . It’s that the initial premise that unleashed the last twelve months of hell upon us, and the next twelve: that they had finally, after hundreds of failures over decades created a near 100% effective, variant-proof, immunity giving vaccine for a coronavirus…
Was a complete lie.
From that lie came the outlawing of natural immunity to covid via a police state designed to prevent you ever getting catching it and gaining broad prolonged natural immunity to it as you and your ancestors have done for tens of thousands of years and instead force you, at the point of a gun, to take the short term drugs instead.
What stats, baba? No one died over the period in that Indian state of millions. 🙂
It’s dawned on me in the last few days that my reasoning to leave Australia is less about the vax mandates but now it’s more about how fucked in the head most Australians are. They are mostly a pack of sniveling, weak, cowardly, fearful, kowtowing, low IQ, low energy trash. There is NO future in country that has a population with this mind set, none.
Discount Spain, but it was certainly in Italy September 2019 and France in Nov 2019. They have the blood samples.
Where are you off to Razey?
Japan.
Hold up traffic while opening a generic QR reader.
Capture the QR… or not
Hold up traffic while closing the link.
What are the immigration rules for Japan?
Will they require vax certificates?
When are you planning to pack up and go?
Keep us posted on how it goes.
Missed a step:
Question 0. BUPA or HCF?
That’s always first. If you answer ‘neither’ you get the mattress in the toilet.
JC-I don’t know how much you have read of Malone’s punished assessment of Covid & Ivermectin & countless other aspects of the virus & early treatment. He is astonishingly prolithic in his work -how he gets the time with all his commitments, I just don’t know. But Malone knows, & had assessed the use of IVM in Mexico,Peru,Indonesia, Brazil, Japan as well as Uttar Pradesh in India.
What period was that exactly JC?
Stix
You’re going hysterical teenage female again.
Immunity has historically never meant 100%. These medications are new, fighting against an illness we’d never seen. You live on earth, so stop expecting perfection, you misery guts.
I have the right of entry (spouse).
They don’t require vax certs because they know the vax doesn’t work. Only a neg test + a little bit of quarantine at home.
Leaving ASAP.
The exact same period Malone was saying on Rogan that there were zero covid deaths in the Indian state he claimed were using Iver& hydro.
Isn’t that having it both ways? Isn’t a comment against rogue docs an argument from authority?
There will be more “false flag” ops in the USA as the Half Term elections draw closer.
Timing is important, although a year seems to be ok – as the current bit of theatre shows.
LoL … Good one.
You can’t get traction with a marketing campaign that fast.
Bwah ha ha ha ha.
Greta Thumbstix.
It’s got me fucked why anyone would trust anything the government says.
They have lied to us every step of the way.
Must be mass formation psychoses.
Head Prefect, you are trying to win friends again aren’t you….crafty bugger.
I read through to the article.
One four year old boy who got sick 21 November. Another strain of covid, according to the article.
And what does that tell us?
That covid as we know it as a pandemic disease didn’t originate in wuhan?
Nope, because if you believe a rogue, 95% of the time they’re wrong. It’s always odds against believing rogues.
Malone peddled the Indian state bullshit and he wasn’t just a little wrong. He was totally, completely, 100% wholly wrong.
I agree with Malone on the subjects relating to mandates etc.
Appeal to incredulity
This afternoon I went for a swim at my mother’s (the water helps my knees) and I returned home and watched the first episode of a very good documentary called “The Abyss: The Rise and Fall of the Nazis’. The first episode deals with the period from 1918 to 1922. It’s very very good and I highly recommend it.
Whilst it deals primarily with the rise of the Nazis, the documentary briefly look s at the rise of the Mussolini and the Italian Fascist party. In the early days, the Italian fascist party and the Nazis bore no resemblance to each other. They were poles apart. The documentary reminded me of the role of a woman named Margherita Sarfatti who, like almost all of the early Italian fascists, including Mussolini, was a socialist and she then became a key founder and contributing philosopher to the Fascist party. She was also, for a time, Mussolini’s lover. Margherita was Jewish, born in Venice (there is still a Jewish community in Venice). The thing is, there were quite a few Jews who joined the Italian fascist party, the party wasn’t anti-Semitic and actually had no time for ludicrous “race laws”. It was only in the mid 1930s, due to pressure from Hitler and the Nazis, that Mussolini succumbed and instigated anti-Semitic laws. In the late 1930s Margherita left Italy and went to live in South America…..she returned to Italy in 1947 and she remained, until her death, a fascist.
Not you Ted. Stop trolling and go pick bananas.
I’m beginning to develop an affection for this bug and its far sighted creators.
A truely awful SIL appears to believe it is her right to land on us every time that she chooses to visit her classic zoomer prodginy who occupy a space nearby. It appears that we can be disturbed, but not the kids.
This is where the clever little virus shows its genius. SIL has the bug and the female of the prodginy is pregnant. SIL banned until the birth.
Oh! You beautiful bug, you great big ………
So kinda like Einstein then?
Yep I call it the maverick myth. Physicists and neuroscientists are plagued by emails by some maverick claiming to have solved some great mystery in their field. In medicine there are always some mavericks out there who claim to have a cure for whatever modern medicine can’t cure; cancer be the favourite one even though “cancer” is a category of disease and hence only specific cancers can be cured not cancer. Mavericks are nearly always wrong, the myth is sustained because no-one bothers to quantify how wrong they so often are.
Why place more faith in a rogue doc anyway? Isn’t that substituting one authority figure for another? Everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame and in medicine that is hereafter referred to as Doing a Wakefield.
Razey, best of luck in getting out of this shithole, I tried but wifey decided we must stay near our kids (who are probably just waiting on inheritance money).
I still toss up about telling her to fk off & go & just have a nice life.
I also know the average thicko Australians will vote the same fuckwits back in next election.
Places to go are few & far between because of poison jab requirements.
Decisions Decisions.
My boss based , based in London, was that. He had a very Italian name with a very Jewish name attached to it. Funny sounding combo in English. I’m not going to post his name, but It was something like Filippo Friedman. Family had been there for 400 years he told me and they had the family home on the main straight in Venice… ie the main canal.
Head Prefect, you do know why Italy is shaped like a boot?
Because you couldn’t fit that much shit in a shoe!!
I am off to pick bananas.
Einstein was one in a million. I never said rogues aren’t right but they’re probably wrong 95% of the time. In other words, make sure you’re getting great odds betting on a maverick because you’re going to lose money almost all the time.
Lol.. another queen’s lander goes for the ethnic card. Trust me fuckhead, there’s shit a yard deep in that malaria ridden shit hole where you live.
Unfortunately, in the latter stages of 2021, we have seen Sky News fall int the abyss of wokeness. Outsiders. I found I couldn’t watch it all the way through. Repetitive tripe.
I suspect Rita Panahi (one of the better journalists on Sky) has done a runner to the USA – namely Texas and good luck to her. Why wouldn’t she wish to escape this shithole of a country?
I don’t know what to say here but I think it is this:
Where in the HELL can the plebs rely on proper, factual news delivery in 2022 if we have to rely on MSM? Worse, will the plebs deviate and search for the truth?
In a despondent frame of mind right now, I don’t think so.
That wasn’t my point. You’re appealing to the authority of the herd while at the same time criticising arguments from authority.
In the end, whether they are herd or rogue, best to rely on what is actually argued.
John H,
can you tell us if the Maverick Proof Fence is able to jumped?
Like does it depend more on the horse or the cowboy?
Exactly my point. Thank you.
I seem to recall a 100 scientists made absolute knob-heads of themselves.
It ain’t really about the ante, it’s more about the pool
Govt eases rules on COVID-19 leave support
aap
Workers who test positive to COVID-19 via rapid antigen tests will soon be eligible to access federal pandemic leave disaster payments.
Emergency Management Minister Bridget McKenzie says RAT results will be accepted alongside those recorded by regular PCR lab tests from Monday to ensure the payment is available for all who need it.
Under the scheme, she says, from January 18 people who’ve lost at least a day of work due to being COVID positive, caring for someone who is or who meet the definition of a close contact may be eligible for up to $750.
Where exactly am I appealing to any authority? In fact I’m actually said that you shouldn’t do that. I showed that Malone’s comment about the Indian state was crap and you don’t need a medical degree to show how he fucked royally.
Exactly, which is why I pointed out Malone’s gross error.
I don’t get your point if you’re arguing about what I said.
PS: gambler’s fallacy.
I know a chap named Sarfati…ethnically Jewish Christian.
“Unfortunately, in the latter stages of 2021, we have seen Sky News fall int the abyss of wokeness. Outsiders. I found I couldn’t watch it all the way through. Repetitive tripe.
I suspect Rita Panahi (one of the better journalists on Sky) has done a runner to the USA – namely Texas and good luck to her. Why wouldn’t she wish to escape this shithole of a country?”
Firstly, I’m not aware that Rita has decamped to Texas. As far as I know she returns to Sky in February. Secondly, whilst Outsiders does have its hiccups, it remains by far the best thing on television. Thirdly, I do agree that Sky, particularly after the Youtube banning last August, is loathe to rock any boats. BTW, I think that Youtube banning was because Youtube was solicited by the likes of Krudd and Turdbull and activist organisations like Sleeping Midgets. Sky has clearly stopped having Craig Kelly on but the amusing thing is that UAP and Craig are advertising on Sky.
Not yet you haven’t
Anecdotal at this point
Head Prefect, it is so bad here that half of your shithole state is moving here, must be dumb as rocks (like you) because this state is run by fkn idiots too.
You should move here too, you would be right at home.
“I know a chap named Sarfati…ethnically Jewish Christian.”
It’s an Italian Jewish surname.
Dover, if you’re using this against the arguments I’m making point out where I said that.
Incidentally, you appear to be giving equal weight to rogues and consensus. Consensus is not always correct, but it’s 95% more correct than rogue.
Re the herd/ rogue distinction and Malone, he isn’t a rogue. He’s vaxxed, he’s offering no revolutionary alternative to a contemporary paradigm, he’s simply offering a second opinion re a single treatment.
“one of the better journalists on Sky”
And James Morrow is also a very good journalist on Sky.
Google it.
I don’t see how Einstein was a maverick although he was anti-authoritarian. His ideas were not that extraordinary, Nordstrom and Hilbert were heading in the same direction. He had papers published, he did the academic work, and he relied heavily on people around him. He wasn’t some lonesome figure working away while ignoring all the mainstream science. Quite the opposite, he was heavily dependent on mathematicians and other physicists. He worked with others to develop his ideas, he even helped physicists like Nordstrom developed their theories about gravity. He had excellent balance between not relying on authority figures but also knowing when to rely on authority figures. That’s a very difficult thing to do.
I posted last year some material on Dr. Malone’s rather tenuous relationship to the Pfizer organisation and its mRNA developments and his not very successful career in the field of vaccine development once he left Pfizer under a sort of cloud. He has reasons to wish for some ‘pay back’ to Pfizer. Such things do send clever people ‘rogue’. His claims to authority as a Pfizer Vice President don’t carry much weight as these titles are two-a-penny in large American organisations. His views on the mRNA vaxx platform also seem to vary depending on who he is speaking to. So – caution advised.
Also
Calling the ‘Epoch Times’ dubious is of course a slur from the left. It’s hard to avoid the position-taking on all sides in order to reach an account of reliability re the mRNA formulations.
I know that Hairy and I would prefer to revaxx with AZ rather than Pfizer or Moderna.
Devil you know, in our case. However we will take a booster, to minimize Covid lethal effects on those of our age or comorbidities.
You can say that again!
His parents were First Cousins and he married one of his first cousins.
Dunno about his Grandparents, but I wouldna be surprised?
Chemistry too. We’d have guys through the front door every month or two with wonderfully wild ideas. It was fun, but sadly none of them amounted to anything.
Like the Global warming consensus? The “we must go to renewable energy consensus? The food pyramid consensus? The cholesterol/heart disease consensus? The terrorism “lone wolf” consensus? The “neo-Keynesian economics” works consensus?
Given all the things in the past that we were certain of at the time and vigorously defended against any questioning, that were later shown to be dead wrong, I’d be wary of any “consensus”.
JC has multiple degrees in medicine and a PhD in epidemiology and statistics, just ask him.
LOL. It’s people like him is the reason we are in this mess.
Oh JC … are you on the bongs with John H ?
I think I’ll wait until they email me
Malone is in a very difficult position because nearly a decade ago he advocated mRNA as a quick vaccine response strategy but now finds himself questioning the very first use of that strategy. He has good reasons for that and in the few videos I’ve seen of him he displays an appropriate degree of caution in his statements but unfortunately far too many people are only going for the soundbite and that isn’t doing him justice. Of course I don’t agree with him on everything, I think he goes too far in claiming to be the inventor of mRNA vaccines because he came up with the idea and ideas are dirt cheap in biomedicine. You don’t win Nobels in biomedicine for ideas, you win them for proving your case in the world.
A slightly different definition to rogue then?
uttar pradesh news
Yes, I surmised that; probably all related going back.
I don’t think I’ve seen the good Dr Duk anywhere – neither Adam’s cat or CL’s since he was last seen here. Don’t think he was ever at Nilk’s discord.
Please come back Doc. Many of us need to hear some sense from a medico. A rare thing for many Australians these days.
JC
In the absence of a link to the Uttar Pradesh death stats I’m not sure ‘pointed out’ is the right description. ‘Waved in the general direction’ more like.
I’ve done the guided tour of the Venice synagogues inside the former ghetto.
Sometimes needs must.
I never made suck claims, which of course you know, but now attempting to put me down in your low IQ way because you wanted to believe Malone is some kind of god. Unfortunately, he was caught out being an idiot. However, as I said, it wasn’t me that caught Malone. I’m just telling it how it is.
I know, crashing idols is painful.
Uttar pradesh as well as handing out kits have a big drive on vaccinations.
To claim they are relying solely on ivermectin and it has been a roaring success is tosh.
ZK2A I assume that puke was from The Times (more Murdoch muck)
This will no doubt be rorted from here to buggery and back.
RoP adherents will be smacking their lips at the potential for more organized looting of the public purse.
an article about uttar pradesh’s published death rates
Then don’t fly a fucking plane, you gross idiot as flying and aeronautical engineering is based on scientific consensus.
Pick out odd bod examples where the consensus is possibly questionable and imply that’s the rule.
FMD you’re a ridiculous cunt. Stop talking to me or getting involved in discussions I bring up. You’re not invited and more to the point, I have zero respect for you Hallward. Fuck off.
To rely on Uttar pradesh to push the ivermectin bandwagon is also tosh. Last week I looked at a number of studies on ivermectin. That results are all over the place. At least with the studies we can have much more confidence in the data collection and analysis than some MSM or maverick influencer or whatever talking head people are currently claiming to be the new messiah in service of their political agenda.
I watched a clip of Tucker today…..apparently Viagra might work as a treatment for Covid.
Via the Richardson Post and foundingquestions blog:
Kangaroo Gulag, The: Australia
Seems appropriate.
Looks like Indian statistics are stand out for reliability.
Haven’t people been arguing that we can’t trust government statistics for, like, two years now?
Directors were always the worst. If you got an inventor-type spruiking a wild idea to the company you could do half a dozen experiments, write a three page report and he’d go away. But if one of the directors latched onto an idea the damage would be orders of magnitude beyond that. Rarely less than a big pilot plant and a full prefeasibility study from a consultancy. The result was the same though several million dollars later.
Cheapest director request I ever got was when boss sheepishly came into office and said ‘Bruce’ I have this job for you. It turned out one of the directors had a hobby farm, and his dams were the usual brown colour from suspended fine dust. But he wanted nice blue crystal clear pretty dams! Boss hands me a big jug full of dirty brown water.
So off I go and set up some quick tests with clear plastic sample jars. Threw in various amounts of cheap sedimenting chemicals and took a load of photos of the jars (we’d just gotten a camera which you could insert a 3.5″ floppy in, it was excellent). Wrote it up and inserted the photos, and sent it off. One day, done.
Never heard anything at all afterwards. But I reckon I amassed more brownie points for our lab doing that bit of testwork than any other project before or since.
Ted, didn’t she do that a while back?
Shacked up with a Birmingham imam as wife #4?
Gee, Ted, moving overseas is going to be a hoot for a died-in-the-wool racist like you.
Eyrie
Let me take that back. I shouldn’t post comments as harsh as that. Scientific consensus is credible for the vast majority of science or at least it was until a great number of areas that you pointed out have been politicized by the left.
Razey
They are mostly a pack of sniveling, weak, cowardly, fearful, kowtowing, low IQ, low energy trash. There is NO future in country that has a population with this mind set, none.
The majority of any group will reflect the leadership of that group. If Australia had good leaders, most of the population would follow their example. There is always a proportion who will be useless regardless, but it is probably around the same size as the proportion (many of them here) who will always think the problem through for themselves, and then do the right thing.
Our problem is that few of our present leaders are worth a pinch of sh1t. Solve that problem, and the majority will happily fall into line.
Who can forget the famous consensus regarding the shape of the Earth?
At least 97% of scientists favoured the now discredited flat as a pancake theory.
Good thing we are much wiser today huh? I mean nobody these days falls for those crazy consensus ideas anymore. 🙂
JC,
Science was subject to group think well before Leftism came along.
Cf. Thomas Kuhn’s ‘The Structure of Scientific Revolutions’.
That’s not to discredit science, just an observation about its history.
Is Duk a doctor?
I thought he was an ambo?
“Ted, didn’t she do that a while back?
Shacked up with a Birmingham imam as wife #4?”
I think any woman would prefer being a Birmingham imam’s fourth wife to being Ted’s sole wife.
Rubbish. The comparison is Uttar Pradesh, which used ivermectin, vs Kerala, which banned it.
Now you can question the veracity of the data but in doing that you have to question both states. It’s an apples vs apples comparison. And the graphs are as clear as dogs testicles.
Linky.
Oaf
If you’re indirectly referring to the Columbus voyage to the new world. That’s a bullshit myth. Scientific consensus at the time was that the earth was a sphere. In fact, someone with more knowledge may know, but we’ve been aware the earth wasn’t flat for well over a 1000 years.
“Is Duk a doctor?
I thought he was an ambo?”
I don’t know…but he was a good commentator.
Biggles, just because your husband lets you take it up the arse doesn’t mean you have to like it.
“If you’re indirectly referring to the Columbus voyage to the new world. That’s a bullshit myth. Scientific consensus at the time was that the earth was a sphere. In fact, someone with more knowledge may know, but we’ve been aware the earth wasn’t flat for well over a 1000 years.”
Correct….the ancient Greeks knew the earth was a sphere.
I think that is what hurt so much.
Dragged her feet to come back.
Obviously found batting #4 with the Imam more palatable and liberating than putting up with the blue singlet and the red neck back in Queensssland.
Brucie
Stop using fucking Indian to prove any point. You continue to use crap posing as evidence. You keep doing versions of this bullshit, so just stop it.
The Greeks knew it c. 500BC.
That’s not to discredit science, just an observation about its history.
I surely wish the likes of Richard Feynman and Freeman Dyson were still with us.
President Donald J Trump
7th January 2022
What we witnessed yesterday was the last gasps of a corrupt and discredited left-wing political and media establishment that has, for decades, driven our country into the ground—shipping away our jobs, surrendering our strength, sacrificing our sovereignty, attacking our history and values, and trying to turn America into a country that our people can barely recognize.
These radical leftists in Washington care NOTHING for American Democracy. All they care about is control over you, and wealth and riches for themselves.
But they are failing. No one believes them anymore. And the day is quicky coming when they will be overwhelmingly voted out of power.
Joe Biden’s voice is now the voice of desperation and despair.
His handlers gave him that speech to read yesterday because they know the unprecedented failures of his presidency and the left-wing extremism of the Pelosi-Schumer Congress have destroyed the Democrat Party.
Part of their panic is motivated by the realization that, just like the Russia Collusion Hoax, they cannot sustain the preposterous fabrications about January 6 much longer. The truth is coming out.
But for them, the worst part of it all is the knowledge that the American People are seeing right through their phony media event—which despicably compared a Pelosi-led security failure at the Capitol to the darkest days in American history and the deaths of 3,000 Americans.
The people see right through that sham. They see a cynical politician who ran for office promising unity who is now doing the most divisive thing possible—slandering his political opponents as domestic terrorists, just like insecure dictators do in communist countries.
The American People also see that January 6 has become the Democrats’ excuse and pretext for the most chilling assault on the civil liberties of American citizens in generations. It is being used to justify outrageous attacks on free speech, widespread censorship, de-platforming, calls for increased domestic surveillance, appalling abuse of political prisoners, labeling opponents of COVID lockdowns and mandates as national security threats, and even ordering the FBI to target parents who object to the radical indoctrination of their children in school. And this week, January 6 is also the Democrats’ excuse for trying to pass a radical Federal takeover of state election law. They are trying to BAN voter ID and other basic measures that can ensure the sacred integrity of the vote.
The reason the Democrats are doing all of this is not because they believe they will win a fair and honest election. It’s because they know they will overwhelmingly LOSE one.
Remember, I am not the one trying to undermine American Democracy—I am the one trying to SAVE American Democracy.
Today, I am more confident than ever in the strength and common sense of the American People. They are counting the days until we will no longer have to be constantly lectured, lied to, and dictated to by corrupt politicians and their media partners. When we will no longer have to put up with this broken establishment’s hoaxes and its manufactured media narratives—And as Biden and his radical handlers know, that day is coming fast. Because in the months and years ahead, the American People are going to speak up, take action, and VOTE in massive numbers, and we are going to TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY.
From the very beginning, all that Americans have wanted is great jobs, safe neighborhoods, strong borders, good schools, a proud nation, and a government that LISTENS to the American People. That is what our movement has always been about—and that is what we are focused on to this day.
Joe Biden and the Radical Democrats have failed on every front. But do not lose hope. America WILL be Great Again.
“It was a close call, if sheep had been invented first man would have been guilty of plagiarism.”
Mark Twain
Perelman gave up maths and moaned that most mathematicians were sheep. It’s a general condition and what goes on here is not immune from that.
If you are not going to rely on experts then here’s the deal. Do your own computer, car, and house maintenance. Treat your own medical conditions, educate your children with home schooling, and make your own chemicals and materials.
This sweeping generalisation about not relying on consensus or experts is ridiculous. Without experts we’re fucked. The irony of course is the sweeping generalisation is evidence itself of a lack of nuance and caution in developing ideas.
Snap, Cassie.
flying and aeronautical engineering is based on scientific consensus.
They’re based on scientific consensus verified and confirmed by real world experience. Often consensus and real world experience parted company.
It isn’t???
I think the biblical stories might refer to the earth as an orb.
Exactly, Cassie. If the pig-ignorant, hemi-demi-semi-literate cretins who mouth politically correct atheism ever bothered to read Aquinas (assuming that they can read at all), they would discover that he regarded the roundness of the earth as something so well known and so obvious that it didn’t even need discussing.
The notion that science and religion are always and everywhere locked in mortal combat, by the way, comes not from any serious historian but from low-rent American journalist Washington Irving.
The Consensus was that Thalidomide was good for pregnant women.
The Consensus was that it was a good idea to give premmies Oxygen even though it blinded them.
The Consensus was that Doctors performing Autopsies 5 seconds ago were A-OK to deliver babies.
The Consensus was and still is, that while Mercury is the deadliest element known, it’s perfectly safe to inject in a vaccine or place as a dental filling or use in antibacterial products.
So, yeah, you know what to do with your manufactured consensus.
This sweeping generalisation about not relying on consensus or experts is ridiculous.
What I actually said: Given all the things in the past that we were certain of at the time and vigorously defended against any questioning, that were later shown to be dead wrong, I’d be wary of any “consensus”.
Reading comprehension fail.
Oh, yeah, that stomach ulcer thingy.
You’re appealing to the authority of the medical consensus in the herd-rogue dichotomy.
Here:
The implication is in favour the authority of the consensus against the rogue.
So the consensus on AGW is 95% correct? Problem with this is it’s never really clear what the consensus is? People appeal to a purported consensus on X or Y when there really isn’t one. People will differ on this or that to this is that degree for this or that reason/s and as soon as you push and prod the matter the consensus dissolves.
On Uttar Pradesh.
The ‘No deaths from Covid’ meme started when the Health Minister admitted no statistics were kept on people who died at home.
The ‘No deaths at all’ meme appears to have come about because a study into Indian Covid excess deaths excluded Uttar Pradesh because the ‘all causes’ deaths data was too obviously crap.
All up, a great and reliable case study.
It’s true, but I think there is a difference between scientific theory and scientifically verified science through the falsification method and it’s easy to spot. Gerbil warming is theoretical but the most dishonest are attempting to make it sound its verifiable and proven.
Columbus and flat earth?
Hmmm.
I doubt it.
Less than 100 years later Galileo was in a pissing contest about which orbs rotated around which other orbs.
Ed Casesays:
January 8, 2022 at 8:07 pm
The Consensus was that Thalidomide was good for pregnant women.
The Consensus was that it was a good idea to give premmies Oxygen even though it blinded them.
The Consensus was that Doctors performing Autopsies 5 seconds ago were A-OK to deliver babies.
The Consensus was and still is, that while Mercury is the deadliest element known, it’s perfectly safe to inject in a vaccine or place as a dental filling or use in antibacterial products.
So, yeah, you know what to do with your manufactured consensus.
I feel torn apart! Here I’ve been searching out God’s excellent creation for forty years or so and now apparently my left hand is an atheist.
In our labs in Ncl couple decades ago about a third of the scientists and engineers were Christians or inclined in that direction. The lefty atheists were fairly feral though, even back then.
often we have no choice but to rely on the experts.
As a great warrior once said “Trust but verify”.
Phoenicians probably had reason to believe the earth was round too.
There was never consensus about thalidomide btw, the FDA never approved it.
Sancho Panzer says:
January 8, 2022 at 7:57 pm
I thought he was a Dr at one of the major public hospitals in Adelaide (until sacked for declining the offer of the jab). Also had extensive military medical experience?
Yea, why did duk take off?
Thanks oaf.
I can’t be 100% on who is who but I have a vague memory of something he said which indicated “ambo”.
Duk is a doc – an anaesthetist. Eddystone is the ambo.
Both refused the vaxx.
It’s dawned on me in the last few days that my reasoning to leave Australia is less about the vax mandates but now it’s more about how fucked in the head most Australians are. They are mostly a pack of sniveling, weak, cowardly, fearful, kowtowing, low IQ, low energy trash. There is NO future in country that has a population with this mind set, none.
Incapable of self correction because there are to many Fucking Mongs. Australian Politicians are Mongs because a majority of voters are Fucking Mongs. They fucking love their Mong Politicians.
Novak Djokovic had exemption on grounds of recent COVID-19 infection, lawyers say
By Dan Smith – Posted 1h ago, updated 3m ago
Lawyers for Novak Djokovic have filed court submissions as part of his battle to stay in Australia, confirming he received a medical exemption on the grounds he had contracted COVID-19 less than a month ago and had since recovered.
Oops.
Now they will have to call Novak and his doctor liars.
I think Duk was was a doctor in the RAAF. Discharged by email for his views, iirc.
Every country is full of halfwits.
I don’t understand why you think Japan is going to be any different.
Unless you have a thing about anime and vending machines.
I think Duk was was a doctor in the RAAF. Discharged by email for his views, iirc.
Correct, but I believe he resigned from the RAAF because of the ADF’s role in the COVID fiasco.
I love my country. It is sunburnt and has sweeping plains. The rain is a bit dodgy though and our politicians would give any 3rd world shithole a run for their money.
As I say, the Resistance will struggle to enlist much support in the broader community with attitudes like that.
BTW.
The Japanese invented kow-towing I think.
Calli,
These vending machines. Can you tell me more?
John H.,
Science – like all human endeavours -is always a work in progress.
And we’ve no other place to start than where we are atm, even if we’re wrong, a possibility which we should always give generous allowance for.
The ADF’s role in the COVID fiasco?
What does that mean?
Was it over the vax for him personally or some broader issue?
I don’t understand why you think Japan is going to be any different.
Japan IS different, they have a proven track record. The Japanese Government has shown that is willing to change strategy when confronted with real world data as well as respecting the rights of individuals through the whole process.
That was the Chinese.
Maybe we should have practice classes.
Just in case we need them.
He was a doctor, possibly still is? I gathered from his posts that he was a specialist in some area, burns possibly, and he was previously an Army doctor.
He did say in one of his last posts that he had a second hide-away property somewhere, he may have gone there. He was seriously annoyed with the local plod coming around for gun safe checks, he may have decided it was time to bugger-off somewhere.
If he fails to have his visa cancellation overturned and is deported, Djokovic could be barred from re-entering Australia for up to three years.
ABC
Anyone who’s travelled can vouch for that.
Some places just keep the half-wittery under better control.
Phht.
As Ted would say, “They all look the same to me”.
Calli:
And that is where the hysteria should end. But it won’t – the media and bureaucracy have whipped up a frenzied panic and lost control.
It’s like the scorpion and the frog – within the nature of the beast.
(and you can add ‘Rainbomb’ to the stupidity.)
Yes, that’s true.
Nukes are great for persuading pollies.
Real world data.
(I’ve been reading about the AIF in 1943 this evening.)
Every country is full of halfwits.
I don’t understand why you think Japan is going to be any different.
Unless you have a thing about anime and vending machines.
true
Miss Anthropistsays:
January 8, 2022 at 8:37 pm
I love my country. It is sunburnt and has sweeping plains. The rain is a bit dodgy though and our politicians would give any 3rd world shithole a run for their money.
The politicians (and other “influencers”) are the problem. Good leaders will inspire the bulk of the population. Poor leaders cause the population to take an “everyone for themselves” attitude.
If Chamberlain had remained British PM until after Dunkirk, he would almost certainly have made a peace (of sorts) with Hitler, and the vast majority of the population would have been happy. Churchill rejected the idea of a deal, and inspired the vast majority of the same population to endure “blood, toil, tears and sweat” for five more years.
Get rid of the shit in leadership positions in politics, bueraucracy and media, and watch the change.
Flyingduk was faced with the same ultimatum as many here – vaxx or resign.
In his case, he was discharged. After many years of service.
He also uploaded a video of a police visit where the embarrassed copper warned him off. Apparently he had sent some less than happy missives to the local member.
Don’t you guys read anything other commenters write? 😀
bureaucracy even.
Ever heard of the Wonderlic Test?
it’s like an IQ Test, used to find out what intellectual qualities a guy brings to his new employer
Anyway, it was used in the NFL until yesterday, leaked scores elicited much mirth, I think Michael Vick, the dog fighting guy, scored 8, there were a few below 6.
I think the flip-side question is:-
“Do you guys read everything other commenters write?”
No.
I think the biblical stories might refer to the earth as an orb.
Not sure it goes as far as that, but Job 26:7 says that the Lord “hangeth the earth upon nothing”, which pretty much confirms that the ancient Israelites knew that the earth was totally surrounded by empty space.
I have three categories:-
1. Always scroll;
2. Skim and sometimes read;
3. Always read.
.
Duk was a “2.”
Churchill was shit, his own Tory colleagues called him a gangster.
Is it possible that different ethnic groups.regions had different theories and this continued for a very long time as it wouldn’t have been possible to thrash it out globally to reach some sort of consensus.
Australia has the same problems as all western countries- a parasitic legal-political-media class along with a marxist take over of the academy. Parasites have always been with us but when they begin a destroy the host it has to be fought against.
Our politicians crossed that line in the 70s imo. Two stand outs for me are multiculturalism and the Franklin Dam.
Reference?
Do your own research, Googles.
He’s your hero.
The placard that triggered the Tennis Australia Karen’s.
Lizzie, you appear to be confusing Malone with Mike Yeodan, who DID work as a VicePresident in the research section at Pfizer. Malone initially worked at the Salk Insitute which was where he developed early stage mRNA gene technology.
Is it possible that different ethnic groups.regions had different theories and this continued for a very long time as it wouldn’t have been possible to thrash it out globally to reach some sort of consensus.
Not just possible, but I’d say prima facie highly probable.
We don’t know exactly when Job was written so we don’t know whether that was before or after the ancient Greeks worked out that the earth was a sphere with a circumference of about 24,000 miles, or whether it was written at a time that Greek culture had become the predominant culture of the Middle East via Alexander the Great’s conquests.
So as best I’m aware we don’t know exactly what the author of Job was thinking when he wrote that verse.
Churchill was shit,
Well, apart from serving with distinction in several wars himself, and playing a principal role in saving humanity from barbarism, there may be an argument to be made there.
his own Tory colleagues called him a gangster.
Well, that’s conclusive then. No-one who bucks the party machine ever gets vilified unless they deserve it. You KNOW it makes sense!!!!
Re all this talk about “rogue doctors” – sounds like something our medico bureaucrats would say – you know, the ones that havnt practised for quite a while, let alone ever treated a Covid patient.
These “rogue’ doctors include some of the most renown specialists in their fields – like PeterMcCullough, John Ioannidis, Geert VanDen Bossche, Sucharit Bhakti, Dolores Cahill, TessLawrie, David Wiseman, Jessica Rowe, Stephen Hockertz, Martin Haditch, our own Robert Clancy &Tom Borody & clinicians like Pierre Kory &Malcom Kendrick who have treated thousands of Covid patients.
Oh -& did I mention the 13,000 plus doctors from around the world who have signed the Great Barrington. Declaration & more recently, the Rone Declaration?
All rogues, undoubtedly.
On all the different mutations and why they disappeared, I can’t help but go back to the two petri dishes – the Diamond and Ruby Princesses.
Not everyone contracted it. Not everyone who contracted it got sick. Of those who did get sick, some were sicker than others.
After 5 weeks of full COVID immersion only 19% of passengers and contracted COVID and most didn’t die from it, 99.8% recovered.
The Australian Government had first hand an excellent real world data set on the likely impact of COVID. Real hard data, not theory.
Instead of using this data to assuage fear and to adopt a management strategy that reflected reality, they set their hair on fire and ran around the room screaming.
That’s how fucking dumb and incompetent they are.
The Japanese must have changed a lot since they stopped worshipping Hirohito.
I’ve been down the crypt, the other one is now apparently permanently closed 🙁
It’s a limestone cave, once mined by the ancients, then a pagan temple, a Christian temple with relics, then a Greek Orthodox church, apparently there is a frescoe of John the Baptist but I couldn’t it see it, then lost for centuries then rediscovered in the 17th century, used again as a church, under a church then repurposed as a world war two bomb shelter until a large number of civilians were killed in the entrance cavity on 17 February 1943.
I was thinking when I walked down, all very well to be so far below ground but what happens if the entry is blocked?
The other bigger church next door was also badly damaged, lost its entire midsection, as was the entire Stampace district, too close to the port and railway station.
I’ve now realised my Castello district palazzo is a survivor, the place next door on the left is missing competely and
what is left of the building behind that, clearly also more or less as it was left one day in 1943.
Dick ‘Ed
Churchill was shit, his own Tory colleagues called him a gangster.
Yet he was able to inspire 50 or so million people to fight on until victory. Good leaders are nor necessarily saints, but they inspire followers. See Patton, George S.
Vicki, add Dr. Ryan Cole who has a path lab in Idaho who simply reports what he saw after the vax rollout.
Yeah, all rogues, none of whom had anything to gain except their self respect and everything to lose.
IIRC, someone suggested that duk might have been pissed off by insults levelled at him by a recently self banished poster here.
Job predated the Israelites and the Greeks, it’s the oldest book in the Bible.
The Phoenicians / Carthaginians were the greatest explorers of their era, they dominated the Mediterranean Sea and wouldn’t allow the Greek or Roman navies to sail past Gibraltar. They invented the “ye olde maps” which showed the ocean beyond Gibraltar full of terrifying monsters before the oceans plunged off the edge of the world as propaganda to keep the Romans and the Greeks from accessing the spoils of their trade around the world.
They had one firm rule, if you were sailing out past Gibraltar and were being followed by a Roman or a Greek ship, run your ship aground rather than lead them to the wider world.
These are the people who later moved to Ireland, the Tuatha De Danann, following the Roman conquest of Carthage..
Another conspiracy theory validated.
Authoritarian power is the new black. Because climate crisis and it proved so successful with Covid.
Don’t like it? Well authoritarianism might be avoidable if you just do what we say.
Any ancient civilisation that successfully put to sea for any distance knew the earth wasn’t flat.
Everyone else was guessing.
Wiki tells me in the Christian era in the west, the general belief was that the world was spherical.
Ryan Cole that told everyone about the massive increase in cancers he observed in his pathology lab after the vaxxs started rolling out.
100% credible
And not one of these doctors has an ego or something to sell.
Borody is still trying to patent his covid cure afaik.
abc covid heroes
Churchill was shit, his own Tory colleagues called him a gangster.
Churchill should have minded his own business and left the continental Europeans sort out them selves out.
Yes Eyrie-Ryan Cole is great, as the gutsy dissidents all are. I could have added another 20 names at least & they are just the most prominent!
Actually, one of my favourites is a humble GP – Dr Shankara Chetty who achieved a successful early treatment for Covid simply through his observations of his patients. He discovered that while most recovered without intervention, some became very ill on the 8 th day when the cytokine storm became apparent. He thought it was an allergic reaction & treated it with anti histamines & aspirin & as, I recall – steroids. He didn’t lose one patient to Covid.
Oops.
Add that to the list of stuff I didn’t see.
And “self banishment”?
Is that the same as … you know … that thing … flouncing?
Breaking in a new computer.
Is there an easy way of migrating old settings/passwords/favourites/music/piccies from a Win7 home premium to a Win11 Home – both 64.
Software via bluetooth is preferable, but via USB thingy is OK.
Not in Uttar Pradesh presumably?
Someone earlier today was asking about 1/6 fatalities.
Rosanne Boyland
That doesn’t surprise one bit, Oaf. Such negative energy.
Like this guy?
I just reported your negative energy comment JC.
No reason.
Just a whim.
Well before Alexander. Looked it up – Isaiah (40:22) 8th century BCE referred to the earth as a ‘circle’, thought to be something of a restricted translation, it seems, of a more connotative word, ‘khug’, in ancient Hebrew.
Good news. In fact great news.
This could be it.
WSJ
Local Oaf,
You are right. Duk was apparently of the kind that do not take kindly to trash talk.
No flounce. Just couldn’t be bothered wasting his time with a few on here.
Must have missed all that Duk-fight stuff.
Although, in my defence, I was deceased for five weeks.
US take on what the Australian Idiocracy has done to Djokovic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruN-kEnxy-U
flying duck was generous advising how to treat to COVID.
I’ve said this for months.
Cohenite, BoN, anyone.
Is there an ice sheet somewhere in Antarctica which is threatening to “snap one off” in a big way?
So much so that the army may be contingency planning for such an event, wrt inundated coastlines. Allegedly.
Sancho Panzer,
Are you feeling better now?
123andBush,
No need to be judgemental. Who amongst us hasn’t snapped a big one off at one time or another?
Mach. Always remember Mach. That’s where relativity really comes from maybe even the hubble scale model of the universe as a standing wave node to explain inertia through unruh waves (McCulloch).
Mach. Mach. Mach.
All you need is a rotating bucket of water, then fill your boots.
Computer maintenance should probably done by everyone, car up to the point of internal work. House – most often yes, but no gasfitting, roof plumbing or regulated electrical work.
Up to a point you have to treat your conditions. The doc can only prescribe on symptoms you tell them about. If I could test for specific antigens at home, why couldn’t I order the right antibiotic.
Some chemicals…hmmm, venting and heat is the problem. SOME people can reuse cooking oil but even with the capital, it is of limited utility.
If I had kids I’d feel comfortable with home schooling. My parents taught me to read. I had a good childhood. The teachers just guide the parents and kids through primary work, more or less.
He would have to wait until June to get vaccinated, no?
I told you that he was flipping out under the tyranny of the bat eared mong. I feel sorry for him.
MA,
This is serious shit.
It’s up there with the Queen passing and China/Taiwan and Russia/Ukraine.
Allegedly.