Open Thread – Tues 4 Jan 2022


The Rape of Europa, Francisco de Goya, 1772

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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 5, 2022 4:04 pm

Our hearts go out to you both, Jupes. Hairy and I hope your sojourn in Tasmania at least turned up trumps for you. I think btw if you took JC’s advice and did an SUV runner that some radar somewhere would possibly pick you up so I hope there is no need to even vaguely consider it. Certainly if this run fails then the temptation would be there to just crash and crash through.

Or buy a nice little place in Tassie. They’ve gone up a lot in price recently, but still pretty affordable.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 5, 2022 4:05 pm

Per capita cheese consumption and the number of people tangled up in their bed sheets.

Are you denying that cheese-nightmares are real JC?

#Denier

#REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!1!

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 5, 2022 4:05 pm

Glee turned a lot of people gay.

132andBush
132andBush
January 5, 2022 4:06 pm

Mater says:
January 5, 2022 at 12:13 pm

Ergo- small farmer.

Does that mean you have a small dog? ?

Not as small as some.

Dot
Dot
January 5, 2022 4:08 pm

Can an individual challenge this example of unconstitutionality or would this be a legal argument between the states and the Commonwealth.

Yes, do you have standing?

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 4:08 pm

Liz

I think btw if you took JC’s advice and did an SUV runner that some radar somewhere would possibly pick you up

Are you kidding. He’s trained to avoid stuff like that. He travels at night and camouflages the SUV during the day and sleeps. If someone sees him, he executes them.

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 4:09 pm

Yes, do you have standing?

I guess I do as an Australian citizen, but anything going to the High Court is a million bucks, no?

Tom
Tom
January 5, 2022 4:10 pm

You gotta laugh, At 17,000 cases the hunchback isn’t locking up. At 24 cases, we had lock ups and curfew running for months. It’s an illogical upside down pyramid. This is insane.

That’s because the government health “experts” running the response to Kung Flu are utterly incompetent and are making up the rules as they go along.

Before Kung Flu, Brett Sutton was using his government sinecure to campaign against “climate change”, the left’s religious replacement for Christianity. He is just a political activist with a medical degree.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 5, 2022 4:12 pm

I guess I do as an Australian citizen, but anything going to the High Court is a million bucks, no?

He also means do you have a case by which you can argue that you were legally ‘injured’ or impeded by the discrepancy, and furthermore do you have the caselaw and precedents to go with your argument.

Bruce in WA
January 5, 2022 4:13 pm

So, 5 new cases in WA and an exposure site site in Broome — Diver’s Tavern on Cable Beach.

If it gets into the local Indig communities up there ……..

Lysander
Lysander
January 5, 2022 4:13 pm

I guess I do as an Australian citizen, but anything going to the High Court is a million bucks, no?

a quick final jump in before I run…

Just ask Lizzie; she’ll help out 😛

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 5, 2022 4:14 pm

Can an individual challenge this example of unconstitutionality or would this be a legal argument between the states and the Commonwealth. The reason I ask is if this can’t be challenged by individuals then there’s not going to be any legal disagreement between the states and the Common. They’re in lockstep.

As best I’m aware a private individual or business doesn’t have automatic standing to initiate a challenge.
But it often happens that there’s some dispute between a state and a prole or business where the issue ends up getting litigated. E.g. when a state tries to ping an individual or a business, the individual or business can argue as a defence “the law you’re pinging me under is unconstitutional because it’s inconsistent with Commonwealth law”.
So it’s often a citizen or private business that ends up fighting it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 5, 2022 4:16 pm

If it gets into the local Indig communities up there ……..

Weren’t those communities offered vaccination on a priority basis, but declined?

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 4:23 pm

As best I’m aware a private individual or business doesn’t have automatic standing to initiate a challenge.
But it often happens that there’s some dispute between a state and a prole or business where the issue ends up getting litigated. E.g. when a state tries to ping an individual or a business, the individual or business can argue as a defence “the law you’re pinging me under is unconstitutional because it’s inconsistent with Commonwealth law”.
So it’s often a citizen or private business that ends up fighting it.

This is when we need Big Fat Clive. That fat fuck has a run rate of running a major law suit everyday and I’m possibly only exaggerating by a smidgen. We don’t need him running political parties. We just need him running law suits.

Can you imagine his freaking legal bills. I’d take a rough guess, there are years the fat fuck clocks up $10 million plus in legal bills and I’m being conservative.

miltonf
miltonf
January 5, 2022 4:23 pm

Before Kung Flu, Brett Sutton was using his government sinecure to campaign against “climate change”, the left’s religious replacement for Christianity. He is just a political activist with a medical degree.

Spot on. Also related to Jane Halton.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
January 5, 2022 4:24 pm

After 15 December, 2020 I deleted the Tell-Me-Where-U-R app from my phone. I now go masked up and write up the name and phone number of one of the Rub ‘n’ Tugs in Marrickville.

Bruce in WA
January 5, 2022 4:25 pm

Hey, Jupes, does this affect you?? Posted about 20 mins ago:

#BREAKING: From 12.01am on January 8, all states and territories in Australia except the Northern Territory will be classified as ‘extreme risk’ areas, restricting travel between Western Australia and these regions.

It comes as the state records FIVE new local cases of #COVID19 today from 6,179 tests in the last 24 hours.
#9News | Nightly at 6pm

miltonf
miltonf
January 5, 2022 4:25 pm

Do the nomenklatura really think we are impressed with post nominals like AO and PSM? Probably more to flash at each other.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 5, 2022 4:26 pm

That surveillance app is probably what gives me the tomtits more than any other aspect. That “they” are tracking my phone is, in my eyes, unforgivable. They don’t even bother to try to hide it; the app tells you “Uploading the photo and your location”.

If a picture was taken, of a friend, with his favorite meat cleaver & pig dog dressed in camo gear with a hockey mask on parked outside McClowns house (as hes travelling to his abode of course) how long do you think the “ping” would take?

Asking for a fiend…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 5, 2022 4:28 pm

We are still waiting for you to comprehend that each State has its own Constitution too, O Mighty Road Wobbler-Tantrumthrower.

Quite apart from that, any given circumstance can give rise to internal conflict between sections of the Constitution.
Which are to be resolved by the High Court.
Whose role of interpretation is enshrined in the Constitution itself.
Amazing that people are prepared to pull out a single section and put their own “plain English” spin on it, but then deny the explicit section that annoints the High Court the final say on interpretation.
“Phht. They’re all poofters and pedos”, they squeal.

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 4:28 pm

If someone sees him, he executes them.

I’ve always had a soft spot for jupes.

He was the first Cat I ever argued with.

Glad it wasn’t in person. 😀

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 4:30 pm

He is just a political activist with a medical degree.

Can’t argue with that.

And now with a range of personalised bed linen. So he’s taken even more seriously.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 5, 2022 4:30 pm

I now go masked up and write up the name and phone number of one of the Rub ‘n’ Tugs in Marrickville.

So if Albo gets told to isolate we’ll know who to blame [or thank].

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 5, 2022 4:31 pm

Before Kung Flu, Brett Sutton was using his government sinecure to campaign against “climate change”, the left’s religious replacement for Christianity

A bit unfair Tom.
He also campaigned for the sugar tax, plain ciggy packets and a ban on Maccas.

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 4:33 pm

miltonf says:
January 5, 2022 at 4:23 pm

Before Kung Flu, Brett Sutton was using his government sinecure to campaign against “climate change”, the left’s religious replacement for Christianity. He is just a political activist with a medical degree.

Spot on. Also related to Jane Halton.

She’s one of the biggest swampers in existence. In a fair country her citizenship would be revoked and sent packing back to Limey central.

This taxeater extraordinaire was highlighted in an Oz puff piece about 2 years ago. She was upset she was unable to attend swamp confabs in hotels like the Pierre in NYC. She attempted to pull the line these international meetings were so important.
It was during the time Hydro was being criticized by the establishment and in the puff piece, this taxeater suggested the medication was dangerous. This was what the rest of the anti-Trump rat pack were saying at the time and she caught it from them as she had zero idea. She has no degree in medicine and no one at the time really knew if it worked or not. Deport her!

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 5, 2022 4:33 pm

Do the nomenklatura really think we are impressed with post nominals like AO and PSM? Probably more to flash at each other.

Imagine being a barista near Owen Dixon Chambers in the morning, calling out the orders:
Anna? Here you are.
Dave? Here it is.
Julian Burnside AO QC?…

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 4:36 pm

Just get a load of the pedigree.

Halton was born on 4 January 1960 in Wickwar, Gloucestershire, England.[3] She and her family moved to Australia in 1973 when her father, Charles Halton, was recruited from Canada by the Whitlam Government to lead the Department of Transport.[3] She has an Honours degree in psychology from the Australian National University.[4]

From Milton F’s link.

132andBush
132andBush
January 5, 2022 4:36 pm

I was always told boasting about how much money you’ve got is very poor form.

So boasting about how much you haven’t got would be the height of good manners.
Good news 🙂

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 5, 2022 4:37 pm

Do the nomenklatura really think we are impressed with post nominals like AO and PSM? Probably more to flash at each other.

Incidentally, why is there even such a thing as the “Public Service Medal”? Or alternatively why not a “Private Enterprise Medal” as well?

Speedbox
January 5, 2022 4:38 pm

Airports are Cth property. Not even covered by State zoning laws. Hence their popularity with DFO and Costco types.

Yes, also why you don’t see a State Police RBT or speed trap on roads within airport boundaries. The Federal Police can/do get out the radar gun, but very rare. In the event of a major incident, State Police can be called in (as authorised officers under a range of Regulations) if the Feds don’t have enough resources immediately available to protect life/property.

It’s worth remembering that the Commonwealth only prevails where it actually has a law in place. In other words, the States can legislate almost anything they please without falling foul of existing Commonwealth legislation if that legislation doesn’t exist. (remember Dan signed the Belt & Road with the Chinese? There was not, then, any specific legislation to prevent it). By the way, Australia is a signatory to a range of UN protocols on assorted human rights etc but those are not always enshrined into law in Australia. So, we can wave the flag and say how we support this or that and we are good global citizens……but it isn’t actually the law of the land.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 5, 2022 4:38 pm

Someone mentioned Business Class flights before.
Why do we book them?
Better meals?
Nicer toilets?
Extra legroom?
Lay flat seat-beds on long haul?
No.
It’s solely so we can arrive and board early, hold our champers glass with one pinky extended and disdainfully watch the great unwashed file past to cattle class.

jupes
jupes
January 5, 2022 4:39 pm

Our hearts go out to you both, Jupes. Hairy and I hope your sojourn in Tasmania at least turned up trumps for you.

Thanks Lizzie. Looks like we will just scrape back in. From Bruce above:

#BREAKING: From 12.01am on January 8, all states and territories in Australia except the Northern Territory will be classified as ‘extreme risk’ areas, restricting travel between Western Australia and these regions.

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 4:39 pm

Jane Halton reminds me of Hilda Pierce in Foyle’s War.

Utterly ruthless. Sticky end.

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 4:40 pm

Someone mentioned Business Class flights before.
Why do we book them?

Wifey priced a bus class to NYCat 16K. If she can’t use the miles, she’s traveling cattle or not going.

rickw
rickw
January 5, 2022 4:40 pm

Airports are Cth property. Not even covered by State zoning laws. Hence their popularity with DFO and Costco types.

One of the main reasons Fox took on Essendon Airport. Lots of space and no stupid state laws. My retail precinct is causing you traffic problems? I guess you need to fix it then!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 5, 2022 4:41 pm

pig dog dressed in camo gear with a hockey mask on

Do you think you could get one to wear all that?

An adorably dim and loving (and semi-indestructible) Staffy, perhaps…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 5, 2022 4:41 pm

when her father, Charles Halton, was recruited from Canada by the Whitlam Government to lead the Department of Transport

Biography picture here.

Canadian: cuck
Whitlam appointment: Commie cuck
Department of transport: Incompetent Commie cuck.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 5, 2022 4:42 pm

Imagine being a barista near Owen Dixon Chambers in the morning, calling out the orders:
Anna? Here you are.
Dave? Here it is.
Julian Burnside AO QC?…

Field Marshal Justice Sir Marcus Einfeld QC, LLB (Hons), VC and Bar, DFC, DSO, QBE, AC/DC.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 5, 2022 4:42 pm

If someone sees him, he executes them.

There are a lot of ppl Jupes could usefully execute before he gets to unlucky strangers. McClown for starters.

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 4:42 pm

BC because 6’3.5” and two metal knees.

I can fold myself into Economy no trouble.

Also, I now have over 2 million FFPs and I’m going to use them!

Struth
January 5, 2022 4:42 pm

JC is correct.
It doesn’t matter what the constitution says.
I point out that the constitution is being ignored and interpreted by criminals who call black, white.

Constitutions were written simply for times like this.
It may surprise wankers like Boxcar willy (that’s Rex, Lysander, not you) but the American and Australian Constitutions were written precisely so people on both sides of the contract between government and the people could understand it.
And the forefathers explained that is precisely why they wrote it that way.
Are you going to take the government to court and win?
Of course you are not.
Which says exactly where we are in the downfall of our institutions.
Yet when reading the constitution the people can quite easily come to the conclusion we are being tyrannized by those who have put themselves above the rule of law, and their only power is now derived from the weapons of their troops.
So yes, it is vitally important to know that just because a corrupt Lawyer quotes you a corrupt decision regarding the constitution, that you can see it is a corrupt decision.

eg.
Arseholes claim section 51 xxiiia isn’t about what it says it’s about.
We are supposed to just accept their crap?
Many here would say yes.
When it was written straight off the back of Nuremburg and one of the few Referendum that passed?
No. You can read plain English and you know what it means.
And that is important.

109 means the Constitution is the supreme law and overides state law.
117 means you can’t be discriminated against due to where you live within the commonwealth.
It specifically states the only parliament allowed to make laws regarding quarantine is the Commonwealth parliament.
Now those with the guns on their side will tell you that’s bullshit.
But you can read for yourselves.
Part of winning is knowing what you are dealing with.
Criminals odf the highest order.
No matter what their lackies interpreting the law to suit their criminality says.
You don’t go into contracts with anyone else and let their lawyers have the final say on how that contract is understood,………

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 5, 2022 4:44 pm

Wifey priced a bus class to NYCat 16K. If she can’t use the miles, she’s traveling cattle or not going.

Yikes!
QF?
Flexible fare?
Back in the day (2019) you could pretty much go anywhere with anyone (except QF) for $6k return.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 5, 2022 4:44 pm

He also campaigned for the sugar tax, plain ciggy packets and a ban on Maccas.

You do not argue against the Cheeseburger, unless you wish to be in the Cheeseburger…

(Not a Cheeseburgery Threat)

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 4:45 pm

Struth says:
January 5, 2022 at 4:42 pm

JC is correct.

Which by definition must mean I’m wrong.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 5, 2022 4:46 pm

Plenty of scope for arguing constitutional law questions. If you didn’t get your legal training from watching The Castle.

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 4:47 pm

Oh well, that counts me out.

The Vibe is my speciality too.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 5, 2022 4:49 pm

And a bunch of wordwalls and calling your class enemies names, Struth, will be about as effective at overcoming State and Federal law as the fellow behind Kony2012 was at bringing that notorious leader of the Lord’s Resistance Army to justice…

(The thought of Struth going full Kony2012, and being found running about starkers in the streets while waving a copy of the Constitution is mildly amusing, but mostly sad).

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 5, 2022 4:49 pm

This farce needs to end here at home, and Australia needs to actually feel like it’s one country again.

Couldn’t agree more, Bushkid, you’ve nailed the details of national despair very well. It may seem like it, because perhaps Struth harps on about it, but in my commenting I have not just been concerned with my own international travel or personal health and welfare. Far from it. I’ve consistently recognised here that many are doing it tough. In my Quadant article in June on return from the US I raised the issue of Australia’s lack of a proportionate response to Covid and also signed the GBD as an MPH in October 2020. These seemed to me to be useful things that I could do.

The Cat has been a mine of information from the grass roots experience of being ground underfoot by big pharma and big government. I am entirely sympathetic with that. I’ve felt it in my own family too.

So many people have suffered so much in this less-than-major pandemic, most of them due to failures of government to look with objectivity at the data and act with a measured response, without loss of livelihood due to lockdowns and without mandating (with brutality) medical ‘papers’ in our civil society. As a nation we are in debt to the eyeballs from spending that has been profligate and often unnecessary and for much of which we have no tangible result. We would likely have achieved the same light death rate if we hadn’t locked down this wide open country, full of first world medical care and healthy housing conditions for most people, with Sweden as our model there.

God help us in the next pandemic if Net Zero sends the world into a tailspin of economic depression and resultant poor health, ideal conditions for dangerous new viral outbreaks and spread.
We will need to do better than in this one and apply the lessons learned.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 5, 2022 4:50 pm

Which by definition must mean I’m wrong.

Luckily I don’t have this problem with Groogs (yet).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 5, 2022 4:50 pm

JCsays:

January 5, 2022 at 4:45 pm

Struth says:
January 5, 2022 at 4:42 pm

JC is correct.

Which by definition must mean I’m wrong.

Snort, cackle.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 5, 2022 4:51 pm

You don’t go into contracts with anyone else and let their lawyers have the final say on how that contract is understood,………

You spacktard.

Contract law is not Constitutional law is not the legislative process.

Stop taking your legal cues from Bird…

Old bloke
Old bloke
January 5, 2022 4:52 pm

132andBush says:
January 5, 2022 at 4:06 pm

Mater says:
January 5, 2022 at 12:13 pm

Ergo- small farmer.

Does that mean you have a small dog? ?

Not as small as some.

I thought that the size of your hat rim determined the size of your farm. If your hat had a broad rim, you had a small farm and if your hat’s rim was small, you had a very large farm.

Rabz
January 5, 2022 4:52 pm

Says the man who doesn’t want to engage in the culture wars. Except of course, when he’s giving money to the wrong side. This “world-class facility” will no doubt be spreading Pascoe-level bullshit. Once it’s built, the harder it will be to expunge the fake history from our history.
What a truly appalling government and prime minister.

Anyone here still think that St Gough was worse than Goose Morristeen?

P
P
January 5, 2022 4:52 pm

Vicki,
Thank you very much for the link you gave us on your stopover at Lighgow.

My interest was in the adjuvant therefore I am grateful for your link.

Table 1 gave me all info needed for comparison between
Novavax and COVAX-19.

Anchor What
Anchor What
January 5, 2022 4:56 pm

No evidence at all of election fraud in 2020.
New investigation in Georgia which encompasses both the November 2020 Presidential and the January 2021 Georgia senate run-off election.
Video surveillance of Drop Boxes 24/7 shows much binding in the marsh, they say.
Even the dodgy Georgia government has had to do an about-turn and pursue this properly.
Via Hannity

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 5, 2022 4:56 pm

Bruce in WA, take the sim card out of your phone. Yes it may be inconvenient for a short time but will be a major inconvenience for the R-soles, Plod will appear being really pissed off that they have to do do something.

Struth
January 5, 2022 4:56 pm

Are you a constitutional lawyer choo choo man?
If not, you have no more knowledge of anything regarding it than me, yet hypocritically, you try to throw scorn for me reading it!!!

Yes, oh yes, JC, you have been very wrong about many things.
Maybe in another two years you can put Jane Halton at event 201 and work out what she was doing there, but hey let’s not push things……….

Struth
January 5, 2022 4:58 pm

Jupes receiving the freedom being double jabbed gets ya!

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 5, 2022 4:59 pm

Wifey priced a bus class to NYCat 16K. If she can’t use the miles, she’s traveling cattle or not going.

Very frugal of you JC.

I’d always pictured you as a private jet kind of guy for whom even a first class ticket on a commercial airliner would be “public transport”.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 5, 2022 5:00 pm

I walked down the main drag of Mosman yesterday morning looking to get breakfast. Of the four cafes I looked at all had their ‘indoors’ sections closed and only allowed customers to sit in the outside areas.

Yesterday was not a cool day, and the rain that has been importuning us like an ample-bodied economy passenger sitting next to you trying to get comfortable, while you can but look on with heightened apprehension not for whether an elbow or shoulder, or forearm, will deliver what would be called assault in any other context, but merely when. This grunt? That groan? Or that explosive wrenching of tissue from under the armrest?

Anyway, it was warm and we have had days of intermittent but persistent rain, so it was humid as buggery. The flies were having a great morning sloughing off little sheets of sweat as they rose in waves through people’s tissues. And the sun was doing what it does best: Being hot.

The whole sickening miasma was not so thick you could cut it with a knife. You would have needed a chainsaw.

Now, all these cafes are already paying for their indoor spaces. It is no economy to them to have them closed off. In fact it would be a cost as it reduced their seating capacity, and each of them lost (amortising over the four) a quarter of a customer in just the couple of minutes I was there.

I would have to put it down to the customers’ fears. They always had the option to sit outside anyway, but the owners of the cafe’s must have sensed that these chittering monkeys would not tolerate someone else feeling so entitled that they sat indoors.

Old bloke
Old bloke
January 5, 2022 5:00 pm

Can an individual challenge this example of unconstitutionality or would this be a legal argument between the states and the Commonwealth. The reason I ask is if this can’t be challenged by individuals then there’s not going to be any legal disagreement between the states and the Common. They’re in lockstep.

The states and the Feds are in lockstep because they now have a National Cabinet, and cabinet solidarity dictates that the Constitution means nothing.

Clive Palmer discovered that the hard way when he took the WA Government to court, the Feds sat on their hands and didn’t get involved to defend the Constitution. Why on earth do we have a federal government?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 5, 2022 5:01 pm

I can fold myself into Economy no trouble.

Me too, and I have done so with the kids in the past, with Hairy in a company paid Business Class seat upfront. He has had serious DVT’s in both legs since then and we don’t begrudge each other some comforts now, especially on long-haul flights.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 5, 2022 5:03 pm

Hilda was my favorite character in Foyles War.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 5, 2022 5:04 pm

Contract law is not Constitutional law is not the legislative process.

Not so.
The Constitution is a Contract between The People and … and … somebody.
According to The Maritime Sovereign Citizens Act of 1556.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 5, 2022 5:04 pm

Anyone here still think that St Gough was worse than Goose Morristeen?

To be fair to Gough he volunteered for active service in WWII and then gave up a probably immensely lucrative career as a barrister to do the yard yards over many years to restore the ALP to electable status.
If he’d died a few days after being sworn in as PM we’d be hailing him as the man who did a great service to Australian democracy by preventing it becoming a de facto one party state.
But alas no…
(A bit like the great cricket writer’s line that the great tragedy of David Gower’s life was that he wasn’t killed in WWI at a young age.)
ScoMo’s life story on the other hand is pure bugman.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 5, 2022 5:07 pm

Corruption in South Africa under Jacob Zuma scarcely believable, says Zondo inquiry
Jane Flanagan, Cape Town
Wednesday January 05 2022, 12.01am GMT, The Times
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Unbridled sleaze marked the presidency of Jacob Zuma, a judicial inquiry has concluded after hearing 400 days of evidence that painted “a scarcely believable picture of rampant corruption”.

In initial findings published yesterday, Zuma, 79, was found to have been under the “considerable” influence of three Indian brothers during his nine-year tenure who were allegedly allowed to plunder state resources, dictate policy and pick members of his cabinet.

The ransacking of institutions — so-called state capture — investigated by the acting chief justice, Raymond Zondo, is estimated to have cost South Africa 1.5 trillion rand (£69 billion) in looted funds and lost GDP.

The first instalment of his commission’s report detailed the alleged corruption involving the state airline South African Airways, the revenue service and a media company controlled by Zuma’s associates Atul, Ajay and Rajesh Gupta.

It said the airline declined into “an entity racked by corruption and fraud” while Zuma was in power. Two former finance ministers told the inquiry that Dudu Myeni was a close friend of Zuma’s but unqualified to be the airline’s chairwoman. The inquiry found the Guptas employed “a calculated strategy … to appropriate public funds from state-owned enterprises”.

Identifying Zuma and a former revenue service commissioner as playing critical roles, Zondo found the revenue service was “systemically and deliberately weakened, chiefly through the restructuring of its institutional capacity, strategic appointments and dismissals of key individuals”.

Zuma’s defiance of a court order to appear before the inquiry panel, which began hearing testimony in August 2018, resulted in a 15-month prison sentence. His jailing in July triggered the worst violence since the end of apartheid, with more than 300 people killed. Zuma was released on medical grounds in September. Zondo described Zuma’s snubbing of the commission as “the antithesis of accountability”.

The inquiry’s second report, due at the end of this month, will deal with state-owned power, transport and defence organisations; the third, due in February, will cover smaller government bodies.

President Ramaphosa welcomed yesterday’s report as a “defining moment” in the fight against corruption and said he would decide how to respond by the middle of the year.

The Guptas, who deny wrongdoing, left South Africa in 2018 after Zuma was forced to resign by the ruling African National Congress.

Zuma, who also denies allegations made against him, faces 16 charges of fraud, corruption and racketeering. He was replaced by Ramaphosa, 69, who promised a “new dawn”, though critics accuse him of being slow to act.

Struth
January 5, 2022 5:07 pm

Just know where you stand, that is all.
Section 109.

When a law of a State is inconsistent with a law of the Commonwealth, the latter shall prevail, and the former shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be invalid.

Section 117.

A subject of the Queen, resident in any State, shall not be subject in any other State to any disability or discrimination which would not be equally applicable to him if he were a subject of the Queen resident in such other state.

Section 51

The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power12 to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to:

ix)quarantine;

xxiii a)

the provision of maternity allowances, widows’ pensions, child endowment, unemployment, pharmaceutical, sickness and hospital benefits, medical and dental services (but not so as to authorize any form of civil conscription), benefits to students and family allowances;

Now if you can’t understand it, get your mum. to explain it to you, kiddies.
However, am I suggesting anyone go to court……of course not.
We are too far gone as a nation for any of this to matter, EXCEPT that we know what type of unconstitutional rabble we have ruling us by gun.
There’s many more laws they are breaking as well.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 5, 2022 5:09 pm

A bit like the great cricket writer’s line that the great tragedy of David Gower’s life was that he wasn’t killed in WWI at a young age.

Huh?
David Gower?

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 5:09 pm

Hilda was my favorite character in Foyles War.

Yes. I was speaking of steely looks.

And the Fur Elise episode was her most explosive performance.

My favourite is Honeysuckle Weeks’ Sam Stewart.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 5, 2022 5:11 pm

There are hundreds (at least) of aboriginal tribes (or whatever the grouping is that corresponds to country, rather than band or nation).

If they set up a monument in Canberra, they can likely expect hundreds of requests demands for monuments – why should the Ngarwhals (or whatever) be accorded special status.

And most of the agitation will be driven by white people who identify as one tribe or another, but the people pushed in front of the cameras will be tribal elders (no verification required), or Aunty someone, a proud whatever woman.

If only someone would stand up and publicly predict this, leaving it for that idiot Morrison to either admit he has opened a can of worms, or to claim that it won’t – only to be revealed as not equal to the role he has cast for himself afterward.

I wish someone would do a smoking ceremony at the new Parliament House. Hopefully while they are all inside. But even if not, Parliamentarians are unable to do the zoom meetings they demanded everyone else do.

Struth
January 5, 2022 5:12 pm

WHEREAS the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God, have agreed to unite in one indissoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and under the Constitution hereby established:

This is called an agreement.
The people have agreed to be governed under the constitution.

Not the national fucking cabinet, hmmmm?
OH, IT’S NOT A CONTRACT, YOU CAN’T INTERPRET IT……AAAAAAHHHHHH sob the bedwetters.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 5, 2022 5:13 pm

I thought that the size of your hat rim determined the size of your farm. If your hat had a broad rim, you had a small farm and if your hat’s rim was small, you had a very large farm.

Used to have a contractor from Northern NSW who brought young lads down with him.
We used to say “the bigger the hat, the dumber the kid.”

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 5, 2022 5:13 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
January 5, 2022 at 5:09 pm
A bit like the great cricket writer’s line that the great tragedy of David Gower’s life was that he wasn’t killed in WWI at a young age.

Huh?
David Gower?

It was a gag.
They were satirising the calamitous shambles that England were under his captaincy, despite the high hopes that his earlier career had raised that he might be the Messiah.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 5, 2022 5:13 pm

#BREAKING: From 12.01am on January 8, all states and territories in Australia except the Northern Territory will be classified as ‘extreme risk’ areas, restricting travel between Western Australia and these regions.

Ye gods, Jupes. That is a really close shave. We will be thinking of you a lot tomorrow and hope that Qantas doesn’t let you down.

I bet they slap a long home quarantine on you. But at least you’ll be home.

WA is something else again. I realised that when I got caught up for my son and grandson in their family law system, which is different from that which pertains elsewhere in the Commonwealth.
Fundamentally, they are separatists and should be pulled back hard into line.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 5, 2022 5:14 pm

As far as I’m concerned Australia either dumps the state governments or the Federation in dissolved (my preference). I understand the Federation is supposed to be indissoluble but the fuckwits on the high court interpret anything they like, so it can be done. Apart from killing all the politicians and anyone in the judicial system(my preference) the spiral downwards will continue till the anarchists get going, which is not likely to happen. If the Constitution can’t be read in plain English its rubbish. Sane goes for any law. The law should be written for the majority not the exception.

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 5:16 pm

Timothy Neilson says:
January 5, 2022 at 4:59 pm

Wifey priced a bus class to NYCat 16K. If she can’t use the miles, she’s traveling cattle or not going.

Very frugal of you JC.

I’d always pictured you as a private jet kind of guy for whom even a first class ticket on a commercial airliner would be “public transport”.

Dude, I could barely afford the fold out table hinges in one of those things. In any event, coming from people that would know, I’ve heard that the last thing you want to do is fly here in a private jet as it’s a very long flight and very bumpy compared to a heavy plane. First class on a heavy jet is much better, according to them.

In all seriousness, if you were really wealthy I can understand wanting to own such a toy if you’re living outside Australia. Australian airports are easy to get to and very accommodating compared to nearly anything comparable overseas. Owning one here is a bit of a wank, but not so much elsewhere.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 5, 2022 5:17 pm

Are you a constitutional lawyer choo choo man?

Worse- I have them in the family.

And worse again- I have read and understand more of Australia’s civic system than just the Federal Constitution in isolation, Struth. Which is where you and so many otherwise honest and well-meaning people come so horribly unstuck the moment they try to directly copy the memes and more robust challenges of our American friends’ federation.

As such, this-

If not, you have no more knowledge of anything regarding it than me, yet hypocritically, you try to throw scorn for me reading it!!!

As an exercise in “Shut Up!” She explained, is about as valid as any other catty retort you come up with when someone more widely read and across a subject than you checks your ego…

John A
John A
January 5, 2022 5:18 pm

incoherent rambler says: January 4, 2022 at 11:23 am

Thought I would flounce in here and whip out the 12 inch
pepper grinder and see if anyone can match me.

Ya feelin’ lucky punks.

American McGee’s Alice would caution you about the dangers of facing the Jaberwocky…

Make sure you have plenty of ammo for that pepper grinder.

Struth
January 5, 2022 5:18 pm

but the fuckwits on the high court interpret anything they like,

Now you’ve gone and done it.

You can’t talk about the high court like that in the presence of Frank Thring of Geelongistan.

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 5:20 pm

The good thing, actually the great thing about a private jet is the relatively enormous emissions the fucker puts out thereby sending the Gretas in mental spasms. That would be lots of fun in owning one. A private jet also makes very wealthy leftwing ink-bots look hypocritical.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 5, 2022 5:20 pm

Fundamentally, they are separatists and should be pulled back hard into line.

There are many Sandgropers who would agree with you.

Sneakers came in as some Great White Hope in 2015, but after a term of insipidity and union-pandering at the expense of the services and infrastructure he was supposedly elected to fix, Nosferaflu was the life-preserver he needed.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 5, 2022 5:21 pm

So boasting about how much you haven’t got would be the height of good manners.

When I was young we were so poor that mum cut holes in our pockets so we would have something to play with

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 5, 2022 5:23 pm

My favourite is Honeysuckle Weeks’ Sam Stewart.

Me too. With Mr. Foyle a close-run second, because he is rather dishy albeit terse and older.
They make a wonderful pair. Sam combines cheerful innocence with a canny comprehension.
Foyle has a solid dignity when on duty, intellect when sleuthing, and probity all round.

srr
srr
January 5, 2022 5:23 pm

Jack Posobiec ??
@JackPosobiec
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Vaccinated Women Are Now Lying About Their Vax Status As More Men See Them As Infertility Risk

Vaccinated Women Are Now Lying About Their Vax Status As More Men See Them As Infertility Risk

Vaccinated woman are now lying about their vax status as they’re becoming widely unpopular on the dating market.

thecovidworld.com
https://gettr.com/post/pm95hq5a0b

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 5:23 pm

Rambler, I’m guessing you continued on with pocket holes and not because you’re screaming poor either. 🙂

Struth
January 5, 2022 5:25 pm

I don’t come unstuck at all, choo choo man.
I’m well aware the supreme law of the land has been undermined, purposefully misinterpreted, ignored and the elites have wiped their arses on it for years.
But the facts remain.
It is the supreme law and what contradicts it is invalid.
And in Australia’s case, those invalid, bullshit, illegal state and commonwealth so called laws, that contradict it, are being enforced by the point of a gun.
But this attitude that you leave it to criminals to interpret it for you so you can delude yourself that we still are a rule of law nation, is farcical.

Rabz
January 5, 2022 5:26 pm

ever-more ridiculous designs for the buildong

And another typo is gifted a life of its own. 😕

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 5, 2022 5:26 pm

If he’d died a few days after being sworn in as PM we’d be hailing him as the man who did a great service to Australian democracy by preventing it becoming a de facto one party state.

Reminds me a little of what may have been the case with Marilyn Monroe. She died young and at the height of her fame, her glamorous image frozen in time. Had she lived longer, as new beauties emerged, while her allure flagged as her charms…sagged, then she might have been remembered a little less fondly and with some embarrassment*.

James Dean too.

The greatest blow to Gough’s legacy was his being able to have one.

* There is always talk about how intelligent she was. She may have been quite smart. She famously impressed intelligent men, don’t know what intelligent women said. But it was not her intelligence that made her a star.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 5, 2022 5:27 pm

The good thing, actually the great thing about a private jet is the relatively enormous emissions the fucker puts out thereby sending the Gretas in mental spasms.

We should get a kickstarter going to remake these beauties then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Jumo_205

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 5:30 pm

USSR,

I’m not buying that. Jack P is ordinarily an excellent dude, but in respect he’s 100% wrong. There would one in 1 billion billion billion billion chance (in other words zero) that a dude wouldn’t date a gal because she was vaccinated and therefore posed a risk to having kids.

I hate to be a bearer of bad news, but dudes don’t date sheilas because of their procreative value. The first thoughts that goes into a dude’s head if he’s considering asking a sheila out for a date are these and in this order.

1. Is she fuckable?
2. What are my chances of getting a leg over on the first date?

The idea that dudes think about dating a gal because he desires a baby is fucking laughable. It’s not only the last thing from a guy’s mind but the mere thought would cause him to run a mile. Dudes don’t think like that. Remain silent on this stuff.

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 5:30 pm

But it was not her intelligence that made her a star.

No. It was the nude photos and the Weinsteining.

She would have done the #metoo thing with relish. But probably not from the same motives.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 5, 2022 5:32 pm

buildong

is where SHY the Dugong lives.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 5, 2022 5:32 pm

A private jet also makes very wealthy leftwing ink-bots look hypocritical.

Half the fun in the TV series ‘Succession’ is watching the uber-rich at play with their expensive toys and palaces. It is a fitting back story to the hideously dysfunctional children they manage to rear.

We are rewatching it now in series 1, because in the first viewing of it you are so appalled at the kids that you need to know what happens in their futures in order to bring some sympathy back to their intro. You can also pick up on sound and set details you may have missed the first time, for the pace is brisk in it and the production values are high. Verdict: one of the best depictions of 21st century hardball capitalism, featuring a media mogul and all of the usual suspects. Enjoyed it much as I enjoyed ‘Margin Call’.

People we know have given up on it because they hated everyone in it at the start.

It’s a far cry from the culturally uncomplicated days of Foyle’s War and the Battle of Britain.

Anchor What
Anchor What
January 5, 2022 5:32 pm

Foyle’s driver had that ultra-perky cap as part of her uniform. Very fetching.
I believe Ike’s driver exerted some charm too.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 5, 2022 5:33 pm

Anyone here still think that St Gough was worse than Goose Morristeen?

Far worse – Gough began the process of dismantling the work ethic, and instilling the welfare mentality – of turning Australia from a nation of lifters to a nation of leaners – dependent on the system -that successive Governments – even those elected with a sizeable majority in both houses – have been curiously reluctant to reverse.

Rabz
January 5, 2022 5:33 pm

On David Gower – he was the classic upper class English gentleman player. To his credit, he didn’t take himself too seriously and he went out onto the paddock looking like he didn’t have a care in the world when facing some of the most frightening bowling attacks in human history.

His battles with Ozzie blowflies were also legendary. 🙂

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 5, 2022 5:35 pm

The good thing, actually the great thing about a private jet is the relatively enormous emissions the fucker puts out thereby sending the Gretas in mental spasms.

Alas, I never have and never will be able to indulge myself like that.
The only time I have ever been on a “private” (well, corporate) jet was for work, to travel to and from a mine site in a remote region where an airstrip had been carved out of the pristine wilderness for access to the adjacent gargantuan mining operation.
So nothing to provoke the Gretas at all in that, of course.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 5, 2022 5:35 pm

that a dude wouldn’t date a gal because she was vaccinated

Karen filter??

If shes under 30 and has had the shot whats the chances shes a bunny boiler/Karen?

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 5:36 pm
Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 5, 2022 5:37 pm

And in Australia’s case, those invalid, bullshit, illegal state and commonwealth so called laws, that contradict it, are being enforced by the point of a gun.

Just because you say so, O Mighty Road Wobbler-Tantrumthrower, does not make it true.

Particularly when you deign to read the magic words on every Act of “For the Good Governance of the People of Australia/ The State of…” And then all the subseqient paragraph that align with the applicable Commonwealth legislation and/or any binding international treaties/agreements/declarations.

If you have a case to argue, and the portfolio of precedents and prior judgements to present to the High Court to support your argument, then go do it.

Flouncing about and flapping your arms and hysterically screeching But I Don’t Like It!!!1! is not resolving your declared Constitutional Crisis. It makes you as useless and compliant with MuH TyRanNy as you accuse everyone else here of being.

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 5:37 pm

facing some of the most frightening bowling attacks in human history.

Merv only had to glance at the batsman to make him wilt. Horrible stuff.

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 5:39 pm

Karen filter??

If shes under 30 and has had the shot whats the chances shes a bunny boiler/Karen?

Nope, at the very beginning, no Karen filter if she’s hot. That comes later when you’d dump her.

Rabz
January 5, 2022 5:40 pm

Gower and the Both* would be my two favourite English test players.

As for the rest of them, before or since, meh …

*Anyone who detests Ian Chappell as much as I do, is obviously a sound personage. 🙂

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 5, 2022 5:40 pm

criminals

What law was broken, Struth?

The Constitution, by your own declaration, is a contract. Not a law.

Learn from Robespierre. His followers guillotined him because his zealotry against everyone in power he didn’t like got too lethal…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 5, 2022 5:41 pm

You are correct JC.
Not a lot of chaps turn down a one nighter with anything over a 8 on the hot/crazy matrix.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 5, 2022 5:42 pm

My favourite is Honeysuckle Weeks’ Sam Stewart.

That’s because she is not a threat to wyminses. So mambypamby. She had to have a Labour politician for a husband coz no one else would do it. They tried to make her smart but she was just young and naive. Now Hilda was no beauty and getting on but at least the effort would have been worthwhile.

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 5:42 pm

Which reminds me…when did the hideous term “batter” come into vogue? I speak of the brave warrior facing a piece of rounded, weighted leather hurtling towards their person at many…many kph’s.

It used to mean a coating on a deep fried food item, not something in any way associated with bats and balls.

Or is it a sly reference to suspected DV?

Either way, it’s ridiculous.

Old bloke
Old bloke
January 5, 2022 5:43 pm

To be fair to Gough he volunteered for active service in WWII and then gave up a probably immensely lucrative career as a barrister to do the yard yards over many years to restore the ALP to electable status.

When Gough won the election in ’72, after McMahon conceded defeat, Gough and his Deputy PM, Lance Barnard, headed out to Yarralumla to be sworn in by the GG. The vote counting, or the recounts, hadn’t yet been completed, so Gough and Lance took on the rolls of all the ministries till the election counts were completed.

That night Gough and Lance attended the officer graduation parade at the Duntroon RMC , and Gough stood up to address the graduates with “Gentlemen, I am pleased to advise you that, for the first time in Australian history, the entire Federal Cabinet is 100% composed of returned servicemen.”

Lance served in the Australian Army during WWII.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 5, 2022 5:43 pm

With Orange Man gone there is much less for Greta to do.

After her odyssey across the seas in a sailboat that even with modern industrial economies very few could ever afford (much less so in the impoverished economy her exhortations would deliver) she had one task – to scowl at Trump and with her powers to bring him to his knees in contrition.

Alas, it was the unpleasable Norse meets the unwooable object.

He walked straight past her.

After that it was back to life in the Gaia preaching jet set.

Rabz
January 5, 2022 5:43 pm

Merv only had to glance at the batsman to make him wilt. Horrible stuff.

Sir Vivian Richards, circa 1976 – “There is not a batsman on this earth who goes out to face Lillee and Thompson with a smile on his face” …

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 5, 2022 5:44 pm

One of my friends, wife of the President of the golf club, refuses to watch ‘Succession’ because of the ‘language’ in it. True, in formal American movie style these days, every second word is fuck, especially when the focus is on the rich yoof at play or the mogul roaring out his battle cries.

You get used to it, I tell her. She doesn’t believe she will.

Pity, because her trendoid kids have all gone to live in Nimbin and she might reflect a bit.

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 5:45 pm

So mambypamby.

She took out a fleeing crim with a dustbin lid last night.

Not bad for a vicar’s daughter.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 5, 2022 5:46 pm

The casting in ‘Succession’ is superb. Brian Cox as the mogul heads up a stellar cast.

miltonf
miltonf
January 5, 2022 5:46 pm

“Gentlemen, I am pleased to advise you that, for the first time in Australian history, the entire Federal Cabinet is 100% composed of returned servicemen.”

Yes I’ve heard that- only thing is I don’t think Lionel Murphy had any service record. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Rabz
January 5, 2022 5:47 pm

when did the hideous term “batter” come into vogue?

Very, very recently, from what I can gather. This (among many other examples) is why I can no longer watch sport, including my beloved roundball*.

Collectivists, destroying and sucking the joy out of everything, again. 🙁

*I hate the term soccer, although it does have some historical context in the colonies.

bespoke
bespoke
January 5, 2022 5:47 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
January 5, 2022 at 5:33 pm
Anyone here still think that St Gough was worse than Goose Morristeen?

Far worse – Gough began the process of dismantling the work ethic, and instilling the welfare mentality – of turning Australia from a nation of lifters to a nation of leaners – dependent on the system -that successive Governments – even those elected with a sizeable majority in both houses – have been curiously reluctant to reverse.

With everyone depended on welfare I don’t think this is going to change.

Evan the minor parties have to promise ‘stuff.

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 5:49 pm

True, Rabz.

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust…

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 5:49 pm

The casting in ‘Succession’ is superb. Brian Cox as the mogul heads up a stellar cast.

The “daughter” Shiv is about 20 kilos overweight. Far too big to be taken seriously. Yea, I know she’s Australian.

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 5:49 pm

Even the minor parties have to promise ‘stuff.

Not the LDP, Dude.

miltonf
miltonf
January 5, 2022 5:50 pm

There’s a great story about Murphy and the water bed at Gordon Barton’s house.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 5, 2022 5:51 pm

Lance served in the Australian Army during WWII.

Lance Barnard was the Minister for Defence when pay for the Citizens Military Forces – now the Army Reserve – was made the same as for the Regular Forces – just over doubled, and remained tax free to boot.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 5, 2022 5:53 pm

The Constitution is a Contract, eh?
Where is the Consideration for Value provision in this “contract”?

miltonf
miltonf
January 5, 2022 5:58 pm

Whitlam and Barnard- the duumvirate

John of Mel
John of Mel
January 5, 2022 5:59 pm

There would one in 1 billion billion billion billion chance (in other words zero) that a dude wouldn’t date a gal because she was vaccinated and therefore posed a risk to having kids.

I wouldn’t date one because there is a high probability she’s a clueless libtard (well, and because I’m married).

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 6:01 pm

Now Hilda was no beauty and getting on but at least the effort would have been worthwhile.

Not too sure about that. I thought she was presented b the coy writers as a closet lesbian.

Dot
Dot
January 5, 2022 6:03 pm

In other words, the States can legislate almost anything they please without falling foul of existing Commonwealth legislation if that legislation doesn’t exist. (remember Dan signed the Belt & Road with the Chinese? There was not, then, any specific legislation to prevent it).

But it is a preogative right of the Commonwealth to make such dealings, in addition to the head of power. I’d argue it could be revoked with an executive order with no parent legislation. This is like how the Tampa case was decided.

By the way, Australia is a signatory to a range of UN protocols on assorted human rights etc but…

Some of them are indeed enshrined into legislation.

Clive Palmer discovered that the hard way when he took the WA Government to court, the Feds sat on their hands and didn’t get involved to defend the Constitution. Why on earth do we have a federal government?

Sure, they could have been interveners. They were not obligated (you can argue but cannot rock solidly prove that) to intervene. I agree they should be sworn to defend civil rights, like the US Feds.

Rabz
January 5, 2022 6:03 pm

Foyle’s driver

The rather fetching English Rose, Honeysuckle Weeks. 😕

bespoke
bespoke
January 5, 2022 6:04 pm

Not the LDP, Dude.

They will gain short term on a protest vote but not enough to change long tern views on welfare, JC.

I hope I’m wrong.

So who’s say for sure the next gen LDP leaders won’t bend to get out of political wilderness.

Mission creep is inevitable and human.

Delta A
Delta A
January 5, 2022 6:04 pm

Maximum temp today a cool 17c. Same yesterday, and low to mid twenties forecast for the remainder of the week.

So far this “summer”, we have had two days in the high(ish) thirties, six days in low thirties and the rest in twenties, or below . BoM 21 day forecast predictcs the warmest day for the rest of January will be 32 degrees.

I mention this because summers here are usually scorching – always were, always will be – with half a dozen 40’s plus every year and interminable heatwaves that sap the spirit. For two years now, we have have enjoyed the soothing mildness of La Nina, along with frequent showers, to indulge the 300 trees which we’ve planted. So lucky!

But the media will not report this because it is a happy weather story*; no doom and gloom and Climate Armageddon (TM).

My tomatoes are not happy about the lack of sunlight and warmth. Tough. I’ll buy my passata this year.

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 6:05 pm

John of Mel says:
January 5, 2022 at 5:59 pm

There would be one in 1 billion billion billion billion chance (in other words zero) that a dude wouldn’t date a gal because she was vaccinated and therefore posed a risk to having kids.

I wouldn’t date one because there is a high probability she’s a clueless libtard (well, and because I’m married).

john P isn’t saying that. He’s saying men are reluctant to date vaxxed gals because it poses a danger to their reproduction potential. What dude has ever considered that at the beginning?

Roger
Roger
January 5, 2022 6:05 pm

when did the hideous term “batter” come into vogue?

Very, very recently, from what I can gather.

Goes back to Clarke’s days as captain, at least. Probably on instruction from CA.

Then commentators started using it.

I suppose “batswoman” is deemed too much of a mouthful.

Anyone who uses it is a misogynist and probably a racist too.

And an anti-vaxxer.

John of Mel
John of Mel
January 5, 2022 6:05 pm

You are correct JC.
Not a lot of chaps turn down a one nighter with anything over a 8 on the hot/crazy matrix.

Maybe there are more honourable young men in America, who don’t look for one nighters. Who knows?

srr
srr
January 5, 2022 6:06 pm

cmicheletti
@cmicheletti
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Replying to @JackPosobiec
Thousands of women got the shot, even though there were no studies done on what it could do to the female reproductive system. They just recently funded that research.

[make that millions, not counting all the little girls who’s parents gave them no choice]

Golfsuper1992
@Golfsuper1992
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Replying to @JackPosobiec
I can see the classified ads now: “straight man seeking pure-blood woman for long term relationship” ?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 5, 2022 6:06 pm

There would one in 1 billion billion billion billion chance (in other words zero) that a dude wouldn’t date a gal because she was vaccinated and therefore posed a risk to having kids.

Maths is misogyny.

For a true feminist even one in a google-plex is an unsupportable risk of denying a women the right to a marriage that is an instrument of male oppression maintained by the patriarchy designed solely to deny women authentic existence.

You beast!

*Pummels balled fists furiously and ineffectually on JC’s chest for about 5 seconds, then bursts into tears*

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 6:09 pm

USSR, remain silent and stop digging. You’re an angry fruitcake. Go do something in the kitchen like make some cookies or prepare a decent roast instead hanging around the web looking for conspiracies. Be useful instead of useless.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 5, 2022 6:09 pm

Rabz says:
January 5, 2022 at 5:40 pm
Gower and the Both* would be my two favourite English test players.

I used to enjoy watching Geoffrey Boycott bat towards the end of his career

cohenite
January 5, 2022 6:10 pm

The Constitution is a Contract

It is a social contract in that the people agree to abide by its terms and in return the laws which define the society of the people are limited by the constitution.

Dot
Dot
January 5, 2022 6:10 pm

So who’s say for sure the next gen LDP leaders won’t bend to get out of political wilderness.

No.

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 6:10 pm

You could make an argument that “batsman” is the person with the hand on the bat. So the gender nonsense would be negated.

It’s as silly as calling the chairman (male or female) the “chair”.

Okay. Can we increase the idiocy to eleventy and have “batsperson”? That would cover all fifty thousand genders except people who identify as non-people.

Rabz
January 5, 2022 6:13 pm

Rog – the term was “mandated” very recently by the imbeciles maladministering cricket in this country (i.e. about two or three months ago).

If I’m not incorrect, “batsman” was the term universally used in both men’s and women’s cricket up until then.

Bluddee collectivists. 😡

Winston Smith
January 5, 2022 6:13 pm

Tom:

Djokovic caught Kung Flu in 2020 before a vaccine was available, meaning he’s most unlikely to catch it again because of the immunity he now has.
That means his exemption is deserved – but no-one in the GHNIC is going to explain that because it stinks of hypocrisy and double standards.
Those knowall arseholes created the conundrum now kicking their arse that special treatment is extended only to celebrities and the rich.

It’s good to be one of the Brahmin Caste.

calli
calli
January 5, 2022 6:14 pm

the term was “mandated”

Sexist!

Roger
Roger
January 5, 2022 6:14 pm

QLD’s Lex Luthor (h/t stix) CHO says Omicron will peak in a few weeks and then decline and everyone will then have some immunity.

I must say that thus far he’s a refreshing change from the worry wart who now sits in Government House.

miltonf
miltonf
January 5, 2022 6:15 pm

batter- I though you were talking about fish and chips. Now I get it- how prissy and grotesque.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 5, 2022 6:16 pm

*Pummels balled fists furiously and ineffectually on JC’s chest for about 5 seconds, then bursts into tears*

Thank Christ the scene pulled away before the snotty makeup sex scene.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 5, 2022 6:17 pm

What dude has ever considered that at the beginning?

Only in the reverse sense of putting a party hat on Mr Happy before the speleology begins.

Rabz
January 5, 2022 6:17 pm

Can we increase the idiocy to eleventy and have “batsperson”? That would cover all fifty thousand genders except people who identify as non-people*.

Indeed calli, because we wouldn’t them to be confused with “batpeople” “batperson” or “batpersonage”. 😕

* e.g. batlizard, batpineapple, batsouper.

Roger
Roger
January 5, 2022 6:17 pm

Rog – the term was “mandated” very recently by the imbeciles maladministering cricket in this country (i.e. about two or three months ago).

No, Rabz, I remember Clarke using it as captian because he was quizzed by a commentator as to whether the term was now “mandated” by CA, to which he gave no clear answer; ergo, I conclude, yes it was mandated. This was when women’s crickit was beginning to become a thing.

Old bloke
Old bloke
January 5, 2022 6:17 pm

miltonf says:
January 5, 2022 at 5:46 pm

“Gentlemen, I am pleased to advise you that, for the first time in Australian history, the entire Federal Cabinet is 100% composed of returned servicemen.”

Yes I’ve heard that- only thing is I don’t think Lionel Murphy had any service record. Correct me if I’m wrong.

This was prior to Murphy and the others getting a role. Gough’s first cabinet consisted of two people, Gough & Lance Barnard, both ex-servicemen.

Bruce in WA
January 5, 2022 6:18 pm

Flip-flop ScoMo strikes again!

National cabinet: Australia to provide free RAT tests to six million people after push from Queensland

The Prime Minister has done a huge backflip on rapid antigen tests, agreeing to make them free to more than six million Australians.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has agreed to make rapid antigen tests free for more than 6.6 million Australians on concession cards after a meeting of national cabinet.

Premiers and chief ministers met with Mr Morrison on Wednesday to discuss the testing problems that have plagued Australia since Covid-19 cases began to soar.

It was agreed that RAT tests would be made free to concession card holders over a three-month period.

They will to able to collect up to 10 tests from pharmacies, with five free tests per month.

However, symptomatic people are still being urged to go to testing clinics to avoid further spreading the virus.

“Universal free access to tests was not agreed by any of the states and territories today,” Mr Morrison said.

“What was agreed, though, was a model to provide concessional access for tests over a three-month period.

“There will be a maximum of 10 tests that will be provided on a concessional basis over those three months.”

Mr Morrison said the free tests would be supplied to people who were on a commonwealth seniors health card, a health care card, a low income health care card, a pensioner concession card, a DVA Gold Card or a DVA white card.

srr
srr
January 5, 2022 6:18 pm

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Jack Posobiec ??
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calli
calli
January 5, 2022 6:19 pm

Roger, put that down as one of many…many times I have been wrong on this blog.

And thankful that I was.

He may be the circuit breaker to pull the Chook out of her self-created incineration.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 5, 2022 6:20 pm

Flip-flop ScoMo strikes again!

National cabinet: Australia to provide free RAT tests to six million people after push from Queensland

What a retard.

All in favour will credit Pony Girl, and all opposed will blame ScoMo.

it’s a length of the field own goal into the top corner of the net.

Delta A
Delta A
January 5, 2022 6:22 pm

I used to enjoy watching Geoffrey Boycott bat towards the end of his career

Tony, I was going to say I’d rather chew my leg off than watch (or listen to) Boycott, but that would’ve been a bit orf.

Boycott was maginally more exciting to watch than Chris (tap-tap) Tavare (yawn).

#watchingpaintdry.

Rabz
January 5, 2022 6:22 pm

err, yeah, no Rog, it was formally “mandated” by the ICC quite recently.

If you choose to believe the ALPBC.

Roger
Roger
January 5, 2022 6:24 pm

Roger, put that down as one of many…many times I have been wrong on this blog.

Note I did say “thus far”, calli, so I’m still hedging my bets. [Smiley face.]

In the CHO business you’re only as good as your last press conference.

Roger
Roger
January 5, 2022 6:25 pm

err, yeah, no Rog, it was formally “mandated” by the ICC quite recently.

Australia led the way, Rabz.

We can be proud of that.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 5, 2022 6:26 pm

I thought that the size of your hat rim determined the size of your farm. If your hat had a broad rim, you had a small farm and if your hat’s rim was small, you had a very large farm.

The broader the hat brim, the bigger the overdraft.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 5, 2022 6:28 pm

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has agreed to make rapid antigen tests free for more than 6.6 million Australians on concession cards after a meeting of national cabinet.

Karen demands the manager supply her with 3 per day.
Karen demands to know why there is a shortage.
Karen wonders why services are declining and businesses are closing.

miltonf
miltonf
January 5, 2022 6:28 pm

Thanks Old Bloke- been wondering about that on and off for decades!

Bruce in WA
January 5, 2022 6:28 pm

And Stalag-LuftWA strikes again. A news item about WA lifting its ban on RATs in the state contains this little gem:

The availability of the tests comes as Mr Cook announced that a new app that combines the check-in features of SafeWA as well as providing proof of vaccination would launch next week.

He said the app would replace SafeWA and that West Australians could begin preparing for its release by making sure they had downloaded copies of their immunisation records.

“It will provide a more secure and efficient way of showing your vaccination proof but it will still require you to take steps like having a (immunisation) certificate on your MyGov account,” Mr Cook said.

“So it is best to get started now.”

So, sign in and show your clean or unclean status in one fell swoop … oh, and don’t forget you’ll need photo ID as well. Daughter and SIL both had to sign in, show their vax certificate AND their driver’s licence to get into the Breakwater Tavern at Hillarys Boat Harbour yesterday afternoon.

srr
srr
January 5, 2022 6:28 pm

ZUBY:
@ZubyMusic
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The hardest part of ’15 days to slow the spread’ is the first 650 days.

Posted on 8:18 AM · Jan 5th, 2022

ZUBY:
@ZubyMusic
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Jan 4
Has anyone considered that it took humanity so long to achieve a semblance of freedom largely BECAUSE so many people actually LIKE being under the boot?

I used to believe that virtually all human beings inherently and fundamentally desired to be free and to have liberty and autonomy.

I was wrong.

Not only is this not true, but a significant % of people will actually ATTACK you if you advocate their liberty.

Valuable lesson.

It’s fair to assume it’s always been that way.

Posted on 12:50 AM · Jan 4th, 2022
______________________

Zuby’s great value. Good to see him on Gettr 🙂

Roger
Roger
January 5, 2022 6:29 pm

Here’s Clarke using it back in 2013, for example.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 5, 2022 6:29 pm

Delta A says:
January 5, 2022 at 6:22 pm
I used to enjoy watching Geoffrey Boycott bat towards the end of his career
Tony, I was going to say I’d rather chew my leg off than watch (or listen to) Boycott, but that would’ve been a bit orf.
Boycott was maginally more exciting to watch than Chris (tap-tap) Tavare (yawn).

In his earlier days with Edrich, the drying of paint was more exciting – but I did say towards the end of his career.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Roger says: January 5, 2022 at 6:14 pm

QLD’s Lex Luthor (h/t stix) CHO says Omicron will peak in a few weeks and then decline and everyone will then have some immunity.

1. Covid got into Qld’s remote/isolated indigenous communities just before Christmas.
2. Co-morbidities abound in said communities.
3. Lotsa hand-wringing & talk of “temporary morgues” urgently shipped to said communities to cope with the scores of vulnerable indigenous who’d be dropping dead – (just like on Chinese streets.)
4. Two weeks is the time frame to either flatten the curve or lose control.
5. More than two weeks have passed.
6. Number of covid deaths in said communities: Zero.

Lex Luthor is correct; Let ‘er rip!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 5, 2022 6:29 pm

I can’t wait to hear at the next Test, about persons X and Y a
who are about to open the battery…

Bons
Bons
January 5, 2022 6:30 pm

Sadly, it is obvious that testing is going to be the new tyranny.
It is dramatically more intrusive and potentially abusive than the passport or check in.
Any person, institution, venue or employer can, and will, demand test results before permitting contact or participation.
It’s going to be a constant and expensive burden. A lot of people will probably just bow out.
The elite and media will love it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 5, 2022 6:32 pm

This was prior to Murphy and the others getting a role. Gough’s first cabinet consisted of two people, Gough & Lance Barnard, both ex-servicemen.

Lance Barnard was ex – 9th Division, including El Alamein.

Rabz
January 5, 2022 6:33 pm

I used to enjoy watching Geoffrey Boycott bat towards the end of his career

He really was a loathsome figure.

Never forget, he mysteriously went missing from selection for England about the time Lillee and Thommo were terrorising batsman across the planet.

It wasn’t Boycs who answered his country’s call, left his hearth and home (in the middle of winter, no less) and journeyed half way across this earth to face that terrible twosome in 74-75, but the 41 year old Colin Cowdrey.

Boycott’s commentary was even more dire than the Ozzie imbeciles infesting broadcasting boxes in various test grounds across the planet.

A vile stupid vainglorious coward. The most gutless and boring English cricketer to have blighted the modern game, even worse than z-grade pretenders such as Gatts and the Brierley.

There are few more sporting figures in human history more detestable.

srr
srr
January 5, 2022 6:34 pm

ZUBY:
@ZubyMusic
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RT @EscapeTheGrip: Many people would have mastered their natural talents by 25 if they didn’t study nonsense in university for 4+ years.

jupes
jupes
January 5, 2022 6:34 pm

I bet they slap a long home quarantine on you. But at least you’ll be home.

14 days. But at least it’s home quarantine.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 5, 2022 6:36 pm

The “daughter” Shiv is about 20 kilos overweight.

She young and still looks good. Men today are too conditioned to lust after stick figures, every homosexual’s preference when designing female clothes for the fashion industry.

Shiv does have the sort of body that will go to fat in the end. Actually it’s there already in her rear which is admittedly rather large. I think it makes her seem far more realistic than if she was like some of the other women, social x-rays who waft in and out of the scene as support workers, PR flaks etc. She plays a fabulous part as the daddy’s girl who isn’t sure that she is – and apart from the kilos reminds us somewhat of our own corporate-styled daughter (who is a much nice person though I hope). They do have similar ways of responding in short flicks of the hair and an upward face tilt and using no extra words but with the ability to work a room with style. Nothing phases Shiv – until it does.

MatrixTransform
January 5, 2022 6:39 pm

re: business class and post nominals.

I got upgrade once because my first and middle initials are D and R so the hostie reads it like Im a doctor.

paging Dr Matrix

unfortunately it was only to NZ

and I tried it on but nooooo .
I still had to pay for the drinks

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 5, 2022 6:40 pm

Shiv also has a somewhat tense relationship with her mother which makes me twitch.
Calm down, Lizzie, says Hairy. Our daughter really does love you.

Hrrrumph. I know I say. Deep down. Sometimes. Maybe.
Mothers and daughters. It really is a thing. It is excoriating in this series.

Roger
Roger
January 5, 2022 6:42 pm

The Commonwealth Public Service once (briefly) consisted of just one person, Robert (later Sir Robert) Garran.

He later joked he had to make the tea and put out the rubbish bin and in-between typed up the first Commonwealth Gazette.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 5, 2022 6:42 pm

We were very close once, and then she turned fourteen!

Hard work after that. 😉

jupes
jupes
January 5, 2022 6:42 pm

“There will be a maximum of 10 tests that will be provided on a concessional basis over those three months.”

This is the health Nazis pathetic attempt to keep their power during the waning effects of the ‘rona. Even more pathetic is SloMo and the premiers kowtowing to the fascist imbeciles.

Roger
Roger
January 5, 2022 6:48 pm

I’m sorry, but why would people who can easily stay home and isolate if a little unwell need rapid antigen tests?

It’s not as if they have any urgent business or employment matters that need attending to.

Winston Smith
January 5, 2022 6:48 pm

132and bush:

Winston, you’re in Horsham ?

No.
I’m in Barcaldine.
Horsham is a suburb of Barcaldine, yes?

jupes
jupes
January 5, 2022 6:49 pm

“Gentlemen, I am pleased to advise you that, for the first time in Australian history, the entire Federal Cabinet is 100% composed of returned servicemen.”

This is a wonderful story. Not least because all the graduating officers were “gentlemen”. Gough’s record as a navigator flying combat missions in New Guinea is not to be sneezed at. Barnard being a veteran of the magnificent 9th division speaks for itself too.

This was day one of Gough as prime minister. Too bad the story deteriorated after that.

Rabz
January 5, 2022 6:50 pm

Prime Minister Goose Morristeen has agreed* to make rapid antigen tests free for more than 6.6 million Australians on concession cards

Thanks, taxpayers!

* i.e. He was ordered to do that by the Mos Eisley cantina collective of z-grade fascist imbeciles that he’d willingly “empowered” – and then willingly lapped up the maggot, dog food and bovine excrement treat in the plastic bowl they’d left him.

miltonf
miltonf
January 5, 2022 6:50 pm

This is the health Nazis pathetic attempt to keep their power during the waning effects of the ‘rona. Even more pathetic is SloMo and the premiers kowtowing to the fascist imbeciles.

exactly- our political and medical establishment have revealed their true selves. For that we should be grateful. Now we know for sure what we always suspected. How these abortion doctors sleep at night is beyond me.

srr
srr
January 5, 2022 6:53 pm

rwmalonemd
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H B Bear
H B Bear
January 5, 2022 6:54 pm

Best to decline the offer of a private jet. You can go back to cattle from business. I’m not sure about private to public. Disclosure: spoken not from experience (I did get bumped into business London to Singapore once in the good old days). Luxury for me was not flying Brunei.

Diogenes
Diogenes
January 5, 2022 6:55 pm

Okay. Can we increase the idiocy to eleventy and have “batsperson

Shouldn’t that be batperpeople?

Gets rid of that troubling son in person, and covers those suffering multiple personality disorders 🙂

Roger
Roger
January 5, 2022 6:55 pm

How these abortion doctors sleep at night is beyond me.

Soundly by all acounts. Just imagine what they’re capable of.

Winston Smith
January 5, 2022 6:56 pm

Doc Faustus:

Prince Andrew’s options becoming clearer:

I don’t get it – what evidence is there that he rooted her when she was underage?
A photo is not evidence of an illegal relationship, unless they’re in flagrante delicto.

Goanna
Goanna
January 5, 2022 6:56 pm

Racing types go for short brims.

You don’t want to contend with the wind.

Vicki
Vicki
January 5, 2022 6:57 pm

Mothers and daughters. It really is a thing.

Particularly hard if you only have one child – & it is a daughter! Sadly, my daughter and I are completely unalike in temperament, interests and general approach to life. It is what it is.

Fortunately, the genetic inheritance is much more apparent in the two grandchildren. All the assets and liabilities are all there – but at least they are familiar! They are a complete joy. Teenagers now, and both have encountered great dramas even at this age. But they know that we have their back.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 5, 2022 6:57 pm

The broader the hat brim, the bigger the overdraft.
That’s a fair cop, Zulu

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 5, 2022 7:02 pm

May I express furious agreement with JC’s proposition earlier.

There is not one man on this planet today* that on first sight of a ladeeeee person thinks to himself ‘she should be good for four or five kids’.

They think:
‘That one is bang on the money.’
‘Which of her companions is the blocker I need to neutralise?’
‘What is she drinking, and how much do I reckon she’s had?’
‘Is the absence of rings on the left hand genuine, or is she a candidate for playing an away game?’

And:
‘How much will this cost me?’

There are other questions which need to be posed dependent on specific circumstances, but those are the basics.

*The Middle Ages were different, particularly if you were a King.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 5, 2022 7:05 pm

Small dogs are the new black.

A bloke may own a big dog, but only if it is goofy and sits on your foot all the time, and then leans on you throwing you off balance while you’re doing something important.

jupes
jupes
January 5, 2022 7:06 pm

Okay. Can we increase the idiocy to eleventy and have “batsperson”? That would cover all fifty thousand genders except people who identify as non-people.

Yeah nah, wouldn’t work. One of the AWFL players just came out as ‘non-binary’. At which point, in a rational world, she should have been sacked on the spot, the AWFL being the WOMAN’S league and all.

But no. She was ‘brave’ according to the AFL.

Roger
Roger
January 5, 2022 7:08 pm

I don’t get it – what evidence is there that he rooted her when she was underage?

If there is any evidence Ms. Guiffre’s lawyers will attempt to extract it from Prince Andrew when he is deposed – i.e. questioned by them under oath – during the discovery process, which would be the next stage if the judge denies PA’s motion to dismiss.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 5, 2022 7:08 pm

Shouldn’t that be batperpeople?

“Batters” does have the merit of not then needing 57 different versions of bat[something].

I think the noun mainly used in my case was “prodder”. Speaking of which re Boycott I recall one early one day match. England couldn’t leave their best batsman out of the side, but knew he was woefully unsuited to open in a one day match. So he was listed to come in at no. 11. It was rather funny.

JC
JC
January 5, 2022 7:09 pm

dover0beach says:
January 5, 2022 at 6:57 pm

Shiv isn’t remotely overweight.

Dover, have you seen her in the last season? I stand by 20 kilo minimum in the last season. She’s porked out. Gorgeous face still though.

Winston Smith
January 5, 2022 7:11 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

Good news. The beastie is very complex and very complex stuff can go wrong in very complex ways. So far it hasn’t.

If we’d had a space station up in orbit, the final assembly could have been done there without the drama. The telescope could have been given more fuel for maneuvering into its Lagrange point, other goodies put on board.
NASA can go root its boot for the overly bureaucratised, waste of time and money it has become.
We should just sell the bloody thing to private industry and and let them play with its maggotty corpse.
Over fifty bloody years since a man was on the moon and still no base!
(But lots of powerpoint launchings.)

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