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The Choice of Hercules, Annibale Carracci, 1596

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H B Bear
H B Bear
February 25, 2022 8:48 am

Curious “war”. Be careful not to bomb pipelines supplying your gas to the enemy.

132andBush
132andBush
February 25, 2022 8:51 am

*It’s only when people are dying…

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 25, 2022 8:52 am

Of course, we will have the same problem with the Chinese and iron ore. Twiggy will have to walk the length of St Georges Tce trying to find a bank that will take an FMG dividend cheque.

Razey
Razey
February 25, 2022 8:53 am

Boambee Johnsays:
February 25, 2022 at 8:47 am
JC

Who has Morrison ordered to be murdered? How about Trump?

Arkancide, anyone?

Some idiots who post here seem to be living under the delusion that their ‘West’ is somehow squeaky clean and has moral authority over Vlad. LOL.

bons
bons
February 25, 2022 8:54 am

Zatara. Thanks for the Bee coverage of lunatic left interpretation of the causes of our Vlad’s FU in the Ukraine. My favourite was “Putin would never have been permitted to act this way if he were a black or brown man”.
It’s not just the fringe. An acquaintance, ex- Navy fighter pilot, now academic at UNC, texted me this morning saying that we are reaping Trump’s whirlwind.
WTF have rhey been putting in the water?

132andBush
132andBush
February 25, 2022 8:56 am

So long as we get paid what it’s worth, JC.

Which means you can’t be complaining about the price you pay.

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 8:59 am

Joke doing the rounds:

Remember when liberals said Trump was going to crash the economy and start WWIII?

They were off by one President.

bons
bons
February 25, 2022 9:02 am

State Mummy sent me a text this morning saying that it has been raining a bit.
No doubt a warm-up for an onslaught of texts warning of critical issues. Morrisson Government …………………!
Orwell was an amateur futurist.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 9:03 am

It’s not just the fringe. An acquaintance, ex- Navy fighter pilot, now academic at UNC, texted me this morning saying that we are reaping Trump’s whirlwind.

Yeah, they still believe Trump is in bed with Putin despite that Clinton was the one really in bed with him (sorry, that’s an unfortunate mind picture this early in the day…)

The endless drip, drip from the MSM just confirms it to them. The MSM couldn’t be lying about everything could it? Takes a large amount of mental energy to accept that yes, yes it could. And is.

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 9:05 am

ex- Navy fighter pilot, now academic at UNC, texted me this morning saying that we are reaping Trump’s whirlwind.

off with the fairies- ‘don’t confuse me with the facts!’- academics don’t seem to have enquiring minds at all

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 9:07 am

<…we are reaping Trump’s whirlwind.

The View’s scriptwriters are working on this right now.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 25, 2022 9:11 am

Jeeezee…its Flanneling like buggery here in Toowoomba.

It’s Flannelling so hard here, it’s obscuring the value adding riparian views
from Tuesday’s forecast 0-3mm.

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 9:12 am

The other thing about TV both here and in the US is that it has spawned, incubated and fostered the most repulsive, dangerous and evil parasites imaginable.

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 9:15 am

Takes a large amount of mental energy to accept that yes, yes it could.

yes being honest to yourself and facing facts is not always easy- it took me quite to while to accept that John Howard was no good.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 25, 2022 9:16 am

Thanks for that link, Zatara.

I loved this one:

The Ukraine story is far from over. But if Vladimir Putin opts to back away from invading, even temporarily, it’s because Joe Biden – that guy whose right-wing critics suggest is so deep in dementia he wouldn’t know Kyiv from Kansas or AARP from NATO – has matched every Putin chess move with an effective counter of his own.

They are even reduced to comparing Putin’s doings to chess, and talking about counter-moves by Biden

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 9:20 am

Gabsays:

February 25, 2022 at 8:11 am

Zoltan Kovacs
@zoltanspox
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7m
Hungary’s National Security Cabinet: Hungary will provide protection for Ukrainian refugees …

Bwah ha ha ha ha.
That will make lefty heads pop off, after Hungary has been pushing back ME and African ‘refugees’ for years.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 9:22 am

Ukrainian Security Forces Seen Scrambling to Burn Documents in Kyiv as Russian Invasion Intensifies (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/just-ukrainian-security-forces-seen-scrambling-burn-documents-kyiv-russian-invasion-intensifies-video/?utm_source=Gab&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
[…]
It is unknown what is included in the kindling, but it is likely confidential and sensitive documents that Ukraine’s notoriously corrupt government – or any of their business partners (looking at you, Biden crime family) – can afford to let fall into the wrong hands.
[…]

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 9:25 am

Joe Biden Lectures US Oil Companies After Russia Invades Ukraine – Then Immediately Begs Foreign Countries to Release More Oil from Their Reserves

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/joe-biden-lectures-us-oil-companies-russia-invades-ukraine-immediately-begs-foreign-countries-release-oil-reserves/?utm_source=Gab&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

Joe Biden used his Russia address on Thursday to wag his finger at American oil and gas producing companies.

Biden froze ALL new oil and gas drilling projects just THREE DAYS AGO.

Then in his next breath, he says he’s working with MULTIPLE countries to release oil from their strategic reserves.

At the same time, earlier today John Kerry worried that War in Ukraine will take away from the global warming scam.
[…]

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 25, 2022 9:25 am

BOM ignoring low off Queensland but going full on about the one off the WA/NT border. JTWC notes stating NT low is in an area not favourable to intensification due to interrupted outflow, Queensland low in favourable conditions. Must be a lot of indecision in the models, wonder which one will win out, regardless will be a wet weekend for the top end and anyone heading to Port Moresby will be having a rough ride north of Cooktown.

Not much new on SM overnight in Ukraine, one of the columns filmed was over a minute long of back to back BMP,s and T72’s on a road in northern Ukraine. Apparently their is going to be an offensive on Kiev today, if the tweets are right. If so that was quick.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 9:29 am

JCsays:

February 25, 2022 at 8:21 am

Very funny. Dow closes up on the day. Hedge funds and punters were so short. They had time to cover for most of the day though.

Why would markets fall anyway?
This is a seven day wonder and the chances of it escalating to a full on NATO/US vs Wussia shitfight are zero.
And, as noted by others, key commercial activities (e.g. gas flowing down the big hose) will continue unimpeded.

calli
calli
February 25, 2022 9:30 am

<…we are reaping Trump’s whirlwind.

I expect to hear a lot more of this over the next week or so. It’s to juicy to resist.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 25, 2022 9:31 am

Brandon stronk flashback.

areff
areff
February 25, 2022 9:31 am

…wonder what they would of made of Robert ‘Bones’ McGhie from Richmond FC. He liked a durry and a beer.

He was also a droog-haired deadshit and one of the dirtiest behind-the-play jabbers, punchers and ball-squeezers ever to take the field. He should have been in the Pentridge Remand first XVIII, not the VFL.

Twostix
Twostix
February 25, 2022 9:32 am

It’s good to see that most conservatives have woken up to the democrat / EU Ukraine grift since 2014 when they were all bizarrely “lock step” with the EU / Democrat run anti-democratic color revolution that ended with Hunter Biden as a board member of Ukraine’s largest energy company and a democrat puppet nation state that built russiagate.

Except a couple of dummies who are stuck in their prime of 1982 and are still on about the USSR. Where’s the ROFL emoji when I need it.

custard
custard
February 25, 2022 9:32 am

From telegram

Here’s my take on what’s happening in Ukraine/Russia. I’m just spitballing here. Like everybody else I have more questions than I do answers but I think this plays into Devolution.

First think about what Ukraine is – It’s the epicenter of corruption for the political establishment. Victor Pinchuk, George Soros, Ihor Kolomoisky… All funding “deep state” agendas worldwide, all based out of Ukraine. We know their ties to the Clinton foundation and liberal politics in America.

If Trump was going to truly drain the swamp, he would have to tackle the corruption in Ukraine. The oligarchs have funded their own militaries in previous color revolutions. Trump could wouldn’t be able to take them down without a fight. So if Trump is going to clean up Ukraine he would likely need boots on the ground to do it.

Enter Putin.

It’s no secret that Putin hates Soros as he banned him from Russia long ago, and it’s also no secret that Putin despised the “deep state” tactics of implementing color revolutions to overthrow pro-Russian leaders and install ones that would play ball with the “deep state”. It’s speculated by many that Putin could be working with Trump in the fight against the “deep state” and it’s hard to argue with. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

So think of the brilliance that might be taking place right now.

Boots on the ground were likely necessary to fully remove the problem in Ukraine, but Trump couldn’t invade Ukraine with US troops. Somebody else would have to do it. However, if somebody like Putin were to do it while Trump was president, it would make Trump look week and the media would have a field day.

What better time to clean up the mess in Ukraine than with Biden in office? Kills two birds with one invasion. You make the Biden administration and the MSM look like fools, while taking on the “deep state” in one of the most corrupt countries on the planet.

Putin is simultaneously helping Trump to serve up red-pills while fixing a problem that actually benefits the USA and the rest of the world – the denazification of Ukraine.

We won’t have any definitive answers until this blows over but make sure you guys are using the 24 – hour rule with news reports coming out about this stuff.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 25, 2022 9:38 am

JC says:
February 25, 2022 at 8:40 am
Gez

Stop whining. I know it’s a professional trait for farmers but you’re going to have some great years even though a few input coats will rise.

Say what?
Stereotypes are sooo stereotypical.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 25, 2022 9:39 am

Brandon stronk flashback.

Well, he is part right.

Things have changed now that Biden is President. It is now Putin versus a weak and craven administration.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 9:39 am

Say what?
Stereotypes are sooo stereotypical.

Stop complaining!

Twostix
Twostix
February 25, 2022 9:40 am

East “Ukraine” is Russian and always was. Ukraine proper has no claim to it now after disenfranchising and overthrowing the president the people in that region supported and voted in. Ukrainian nationalists want the western territory and not the inhabitants that came with it. And have tried to fire up a low level ethnic cleansing for nearly a decade to get rid of them. If Russia wasn’t there Donbass etc would be “Ukrainian” by now.

2014 made clear that Ukrainians would never accept a president voted in by the eastern “Russians”. Which demonstrates that they like the territory, but reject the people who live there.

Twostix
Twostix
February 25, 2022 9:41 am

Want the Eastern territory, not western, etc.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 9:42 am

custard says:
February 25, 2022 at 9:32 am

🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 9:43 am

Twostixsays:

February 25, 2022 at 9:40 am

East “Ukraine” is Russian and always was.

Always was.
Always will be.
I’ve heard that somewhere before.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 25, 2022 9:44 am

Dear god!
Picture in The Hun of VicPlod Assistant Commissioner Glen Weir swearing in police officers (not currently police officers but posing as them) on zoom to patch up the massive stuff up.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 9:45 am

custardsays:

February 25, 2022 at 9:32 am

You don’t think that is a somewhat long bow?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 25, 2022 9:47 am

I’ve been wrongly accused of complaining with malice aforethought
I wish to lodge a complaint.
Where’s the Complaints Department?

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 9:50 am

as soon as someone hits on the facts that break the ‘super diversion’ narrative, there’s always a scramble for other diversions

media, ms & social is a dogs breakfast this morn

Twostix
Twostix
February 25, 2022 9:51 am

Truly the post Obama regime “revolutionary” Ukraine being the epicenter of russiagate and the biden stuff, any non leftist who isn’t watching with amazement that the democrats have simply picked right up where they left off there in 2016 needs their heads read.

Neoconservatives, having strollerd back into the democrats during Obama, were openly talking about thermo nuclear war against Russia over this stuff. Following them into Iraq was one thing, you’d have to be suicidal to be led into war against Russia by these psychos.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 25, 2022 9:53 am

Where’s the Complaints Department?

*The door says ‘Complaints’*

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 9:55 am

Always was.
Always will be.
I’ve heard that somewhere before.

As our prog-left elites have now done an about face and declared that ethnic separatist movements are bad, indigenous sovereignty will be off the agenda.

Yes, I’m kidding.

JC
JC
February 25, 2022 9:57 am

feelthebern says:
February 25, 2022 at 8:36 am
If Germany is going to veto something as inconsequential like that, it sends a clear message there will be nothing meaningful happening.
With no Kraut support, what possibly could happen.
Apart from lip service.

Fair enough but the fuckers were told not to rely on the Russians.

Here’s krauts problem though. Those pipelines crisscross Ukraine . How the hell are you going to protect them from sabotage? A car bomb underneath a pipe is slightly problematic.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 10:01 am

Sancho Panzersays:
February 25, 2022 at 9:45 am

custard says:

February 25, 2022 at 9:32 am

You don’t think that is a somewhat long bow?

only if you didn’t notice how many decades Trump put into making key contacts around the world that made Middle East peace possible etc. and that just as he did that work without being POTUS he hasn’t ‘gone away’ and now he has the extra benefit of having been POTUS

bugger the long bow, you’d have to have the world’s shortest memory & most shallow mind to forget all these wars of business men against businessmen still have top-tier players opposing teams Clinton/Biden & Co.

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 10:03 am

… you’d have to be suicidal to be led into war against Russia by these psychos.

Morrison isn’t suicidal but he is pretty dumb.

However, he also operates purely by political calculation.

Tough talk is one thing atm, but sending troops to an internecine conflict on the other side of the world in an election year would be “very brave, Prime Minister.”

Indolent
Indolent
February 25, 2022 10:04 am

House (Idaho) votes 39-29 in favor of bill to make employer vaccine requirements a crime

And that includes even enquiring about vaccine status. There are some exemptions for federal employees and health care service providers but still, miles ahead of where we are here.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 25, 2022 10:05 am

Snork.
Damn that Russian tyrant ruining the UK Ministry of Defence’s
HomoMonth celebrations.

Indolent
Indolent
February 25, 2022 10:05 am
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 25, 2022 10:06 am

East “Ukraine” is Russian and always was.
That’s kinda like bulk carting the CCP into Tibet for a decade, and saying “Tibet” is Highland China and always was.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 25, 2022 10:08 am

That’s the thing JC.
Now the Germans have said they want no part of anything, the only way to engage with them is to interrupt the gas.
Which means the infrastructure is such a juicy target.
But if that’s cut, keep in mind there is a finished nice new shiny pipeline ready to go, just waiting for a piece of German paper – “certification” that was put on hold.
Which means the Germans still get their gas.
Russia still sells their gas.
But Ukraine no longer gets their transit fees.

Indolent
Indolent
February 25, 2022 10:10 am

This was on Channel 7 News in Sydney

NSW state politicians reminded they need to be vaccinated to attend parliament | 7NEWS

So it appears that the state government IS enforcing a vaccine mandate, even within parliament itself, despite Perritot stating that it’s not a high priority for him. They are nothing more than drug pushers.

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 10:11 am

But Ukraine no longer gets their transit fees.

And Ukraine regarded those pipelines as a security guarantee against Russian invasion.

Which is why they oppose Nord Stream.

Indolent
Indolent
February 25, 2022 10:15 am
areff
areff
February 25, 2022 10:18 am

Robert Manne’s daughter, Kate, philosophy professor at Cornell,tweeting that the Ukraine troubles are a consequence of “toxic masculinity”. And here she is “recalling” how she was alerted to the bestial nature of men. As the Not The Bee notes, ‘these are not serious people’:

Misogyny has a way of getting in the way of female solidarity, regardless of how much we need each other. And we truly did. I remember one time when just the three of us were sitting cross-legged on the grass at recess, hanging out together, unusually. A group of boys formed a circle and advanced on us holding water balloons—or condoms, maybe, I’m not sure—they’d jerked off into beforehand. We were literally smeared. Don’t get me started on that metaphor: it’s too obvious and too painful.

Believe it or not!

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 10:18 am

Canada Moves To Make Asset Freezing Under Emergencies Act Permanent & Their Justice Minister Says Trump Supporters Should Worry About Having Their Bank Accounts Frozen

Canada has moved to make the asset freezing part of its Emergencies Act, which was used to target supporters of the Freedom Convoy protests, a permanent fixture.
https://humansbefree.com/2022/02/canada-moves-to-make-asset-freezing-under-emergencies-act-permanent-their-justice-minister-says-trump-supporters-should-worry-about-having-their-bank-accounts-frozen.html

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 25, 2022 10:20 am

The only thing the Kiev billionaire class care about from their yachts off Monaco are the transit fees.
As soon as the IMF loan money came in over the last couple of months, it went straight back out to the billionaire class’s off shore bank accounts.
It’s like Afghanistan.
Another grift.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
February 25, 2022 10:20 am

DOJ shuts down China-focused anti-espionage program

The China Initiative is being cast aside largely because of perceptions that it unfairly painted Chinese Americans and U.S. residents of Chinese origin as disloyal.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 10:23 am

If Trump was going to truly drain the swamp, he would have to tackle the corruption in Ukraine.

Custard, the Dems were wised up already that he might do that, so they sicced Vindeman onto him and impeached him for supposedly being in bed with Ukraine. That pretty much prevented him from doing anything since the MSM would’ve been squawking day in day out. I suspect the Dems and the RINOs were terrified he’d out all their sideline businesses in that country.

(I could find the stories about those four and their family involvements but it’d take a while and Garrison caught the vibe very well with a single cartoon.)

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 10:24 am

Joe Biden Holds a Press Conference Declaring “No one expected the sanctions to prevent anything from happening”
February 24, 2022 | Sundance | 189 Comments

Earlier today the installed current occupant of the White House delivered remarks and held a brief press conference to discuss the latest Russian entrance into Ukraine. Simultaneously, the White House also released their latest sanctions on Russia [SEE HERE]

For well over a month Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, the White House and State Department have promoted the assembly of “harsh sanctions” as the deterrent that would keep Russia out of Ukraine. However, when Biden was questioned by the media about the ineffectiveness of sanctions he declared, “no one expected the sanctions to prevent anything from happening.” WATCH (prompted):
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/24/joe-biden-holds-a-press-conference-declaring-no-one-expected-the-sanctions-to-prevent-anything-from-happening/

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 10:25 am

Germany’s “Wandel durch Handel” (Change through Trade) Russia policy, which granted Russia “special status” as a trading partner, is in tatters, much like its military.

Merkel’s former Defence minister:

“I’m so angry at ourselves for our historical failure. After Georgia, Crimea, and Donbas, we have not prepared anything that would have really deterred Putin. We have forgotten the lesson of Schmidt and Kohl that negotiation always comes first, but we have to be militarily strong enough to make non-negotiation not an option for the other side.”

Putin really has played them like a master.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 25, 2022 10:26 am

SHOCKING VIDEO: Maskless California Student Assaulted, Dragged Out of Classroom By Teacher

Remember that TV series from a decade or so ago called ‘MONK‘?

In a few years they will be able to make a parallel but opposing series where everyone walks around in masks and face shields, wear surgical gloves which they wash in antiseptic every 10 minutes, they won’t touch anything, go to pieces if they buy something from a supermarket and the box has some small damage (‘cos viruses are smaller!) and so on.

And in this town there will be one detective riddled with idiosyncracies like being maskless, gloveless, not terrified of other people and so on, but they will have to put up with him of his remarkable skills in finding clues that elude others, by doing thinks like picking up pieces of paper or walking into rooms before they have been sterilised.

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 10:26 am

the eastern parts of present Ukraine were added from Russian Sovet Republic a little after WW2 by Stalin and Khrushchev. Same with Crimea.

Yes, the Tibet analogy doesn’t hold water.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
February 25, 2022 10:29 am

I’m so angry at ourselves for our historical failure. After Georgia, Crimea, and Donbas, we have not prepared anything that would have really deterred Putin.

Operation Barbarossa II ?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 10:31 am

DOJ shuts down China-focused anti-espionage program

The China Initiative is being cast aside largely because of perceptions that it unfairly painted Chinese Americans and U.S. residents of Chinese origin as disloyal.

Haha.

Biden Admin Ends Effort to Stop China Spying Because Black Men are Attacking Asians (24 Feb)
by Daniel Greenfield

RTWT, as usual he eviscerates the DoJ. In short it’s all about the tiny minute difficulty that academics are huge backers of the Dems and they are almost entirely admirers of nice Mr Xi.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 25, 2022 10:31 am

Lotsa USAF tankers* flying racetracks outside Ukrainian airspace according to Flightradar.
*Just because someone’s using KC135 transponder codes on an interwebs thingy doesn’t necessarily make them one.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 10:32 am

srrsays:
February 25, 2022 at 10:18 am
Canada Moves To Make Asset Freezing Under Emergencies Act Permanent & Their Justice Minister Says Trump Supporters Should Worry About Having Their Bank Accounts Frozen

Turdeau doubles down on causing a run on Canadian banks.

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 10:32 am

rosie:

You making excuses for the nazis Winston?

Our conversation is over, rosie.
Don’t you ever suggest I have made excuses for those bastards.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 25, 2022 10:33 am

Germany’s “Wandel durch Handel” (Change through Trade) Russia policy, which granted Russia “special status” as a trading partner, is in tatters, much like its military.

Remember when the US made China ‘Most Favoured Nation’ despite its appalling record of human rights abuses, claiming that trade would lead to change in China?

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 10:36 am

Remember when the US made China ‘Most Favoured Nation’ despite its appalling record of human rights abuses, claiming that trade would lead to change in China?

The Western elite’s conceit:

Believing that at heart everyone is a rootless liberal democrat made in their image.

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 10:37 am

Sancho Panzer:
I agree – EVERY nation has the right to form whatever alliances they want to.
To argue otherwise Russia has the right to invade a neighbouring nation just because they don’t like its defence arrangements is the sort of sophisticated argument that I expect of the Left.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 10:39 am

Custard, the Dems were wised up already that he might do that, so they sicced Vindeman onto him and impeached him for supposedly being in bed with Ukraine. That pretty much prevented him from doing anything since the MSM would’ve been squawking day in day out. I suspect the Dems and the RINOs were terrified he’d out all their sideline businesses in that country.

Which is why he & his trusted business associated of many decades, from around the world, could be less hamstrung with Trump as an “Ex” President of The United States.

If it was always clear to me that ‘The Swamp’ was global and couldn’t be drained without blowing in the swamp creatures bolt holes around the world, I’m sure clever people such as & Trump & his mates would have figured a way to deal with it long before ever saying he would run for POTUS.

Trump didn’t only beat Team Hillary to become POTUS, he beat the world’s most dangerous & deadly cabals including Clinton/Biden & Co’s Chinese, Russian, Ukrainian, Middle Eastern, Central & South American partners in crimes against humanity & all of THEIR Western Media/Propaganda, and he is still kicking.

I don’t see any fat lady yet.

Indolent
Indolent
February 25, 2022 10:40 am

I posted the Dr. Vernon Coleman link when I was part way through watching it. It is quite extraordinary. Please do watch it to the end, but also watch your blood pressure because what is being done is absolutely infuriating. I would have thought we had reached the outer limit of wickedness but, apparently not.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 10:43 am

Yep, speaking of ‘great negotiators’ –

“Roger says:
February 25, 2022 at 10:25 am

Germany’s “Wandel durch Handel” (Change through Trade) Russia policy, which granted Russia “special status” as a trading partner, is in tatters, much like its military.

Merkel’s former Defence minister:

“I’m so angry at ourselves for our historical failure. After Georgia, Crimea, and Donbas, we have not prepared anything that would have really deterred Putin. We have forgotten the lesson of Schmidt and Kohl that negotiation always comes first, but we have to be militarily strong enough to make non-negotiation not an option for the other side.

Putin really has played them like a master.”

local oaf
February 25, 2022 10:43 am

I literally have not seen a $100 bill for years, but just got 3 of them from an ATM.

Is this a sign of something – should I start getting my money out of the bank before Brandon starts WW3? 😉

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 10:44 am

EVERY nation has the right to form whatever alliances they want to.

The problem is that if you can’t defend that right with might it won’t fly in the real world.

Especially so when your neighbour takes exception and has the second most powerful military in the world.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 10:46 am

Merkel’s former Defence minister:

“I’m so angry at ourselves for our historical failure. After Georgia, Crimea, and Donbas, we have not prepared anything that would have really deterred Putin.

Oh my aching sides! You caused it silly, silly woman.

Standing up to Putin means ditching Net-Zero (Rupert Darwall, 24 Feb)

“Climate neutrality is our European destiny,” European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen said two years ago when she announced the European Climate Law setting a legally binding target of net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

The push for wind and solar power, which started in Germany with the Renewable Energy Act of 2000, means greater reliance on supplies of Russian natural gas to keep the lights on. Europe’s dependence on Russian gas is stark. At an EU meeting last week to discuss possible sanctions against Moscow, Italy’s prime minister, Mario Draghi, pleaded that any measures “should be concentrated on narrow sectors without including energy.”

When Putin has your balls in his hand your heart and mind will follow.

Putin’s Predictabilities (VDH, 23 Feb)

First, Putin moves on neighboring former Soviet republics when the world price of oil is high, and his coffers are full. So he went into Georgia in 2008 and into Eastern Ukraine and Crimea in 2014 when he thought he had the financial wherewithal and public support to do so.

But when the world is awash in oil, prices dip, and the United States reigns as the largest gas and oil producer, he hesitates. So he remained static between 2017 and 2020.

Second, when the United States increases the defense budget and deters its enemies, Putin also pauses. In contrast, when America “resets” or appeases, he is emboldened.

Yep.

“To carry on war, three things are necessary: money, money, and yet more money.”
— Gian Giacomo Trivulzio

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 10:46 am

Sancho Panzer:

It is paradoxical that the workers whose union driven work practices contributed to the fall of Probuild should also be among the sufferers.

It was always going to be that way, Sancho. The Unions have done it to nearly every industry in Australia. Why should building be any different?

P
P
February 25, 2022 10:47 am

Tension between Ukraine and Russia rooted in ‘hunger extermination’ of 1930s
The Holodomor is an important backdrop to the current upheaval in Ukraine today
CBC Radio · Posted: Feb 21, 2022 9:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 7 hours ago

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 10:53 am

Rex Anger:

Problem being, their Tier 5-level emissions reduction figures demanded AdBlue. And this is an extra consumable that would add cost and weight and chew up unavailable space (particularly in nations with less generous loading gauges- Europe and Australia spring readily to mind), so the big railroads said ‘no.’

So. We did this to ourselves?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 25, 2022 11:00 am

Holodomor.
The Commie/socialist tricks never change.
The Ukrainian peasant farmers didn’t want to be pushed into collective farms and were punished with economic ruin and starvation. They must farm to feed the communist state.
The Canadian Truckers wanted freedom from mandates and were punished with economic and financial ruin. They must drive to supply the socialist state.
Different times, same scum collectivists.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 11:00 am

Also …
Jason Miller @JasonMillerinDC
·Feb 24
WITCH HUNT!

“Two prosecutors leading the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into former President Donald Trump and his business resigned Wednesday, according to people familiar with the matter, casting doubt on the future of the yearslong criminal probe.”

Two Prosecutors in New York Investigation of Donald Trump Resign

The departures cast doubt on the future of a yearslong criminal probe.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-prosecutors-in-new-york-investigation-of-donald-trump-resign-11645650257?mod=djemalertNEWS
http://www.wsj.com

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 25, 2022 11:00 am

Merkel’s former Defence minister:

Further.

And the Bundeswehr, the army that I am allowed to lead, is more or less bare there. The policy options we can offer in support of the Alliance are extremely limited.

Fear not Herr General, Ushi von der Karenhair’s EU Army will save the day.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 11:05 am

So. We did this to ourselves?

Winston – Yep. AdBlue isn’t technically required to run a truck or a train, it’s only required to appease Gaia and her holy software. The irony is that appeasing Gaia causes the gas price to be extortionate, meaning that it then becomes too expensive to make urea from it. So there’s no AdBlue to buy and Gaia cannot be appropriately sacrificed to.

I feel a strange urge to pull Occam’s Razor out of its scabbard.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 11:14 am

Putin Goes All-in Beyond Eastern Ukraine, Tactically Appearing to Advance for All Ukraine
February 24, 2022 | Sundance | 847 Comments

First, I did not anticipate Russia going beyond their allied region in Eastern Ukraine. I was wrong. It appears Vladimir Putin is going for the whole enchilada as reports indicate his military operations are positioned to capture all of Ukraine, specifically the western Ukraine areas under control of the U.S. State Department.

Second, with all the prior Ukraine issues serving as a reference, it is important to remember that every media outlet in the U.S. machinery of information is untrustworthy.

U.S. intelligence manipulated information, some call misinformation and disinformation, is rampant as the U.S. has specific motives for everything that takes place in Ukraine.

In many ways Ukraine is a vassal state of U.S. leftist politics.

Ukraine has been a satellite operation for the U.S. State Department for approximately 15 to 20 years. The U.S. has held control over Ukraine, and manipulated every political outcome inside Ukraine, for well over a decade. This reality is the source of Vladimir Putin’s angst toward the west for the same amount of time, and it’s the same reason why the EU, specifically Germany, is tenuous in any collaborative response.

The EU, writ large (including NATO), are less interested in Ukraine, because they know Ukraine is the U.S. playground in Europe. This truism explains why we see a conflict when it comes to responses and sanctions from the U.S. compared to the European NATO allies.

The outcome is along the line of NATO countries telling us, Ukraine is our playground, the issues are our creation, therefore when it comes to responsive action – you do you and we will look out for ourselves, but we in the EU have to live with the reality of the outcome, so our interests will likely diverge from yours depending on what Putin intends.
[…]
Vladimir Putin seeking to take the entire country of Ukraine back under his control – highlights, at least to me, that when Joe Biden took office, the scale of U.S. manipulation and influence went back to maximum levels. This is in contrast to four years of President Trump not manipulating Ukraine or trying to use Ukraine as a vassal for U.S. foreign policy interests. Obviously, this puts the DC and Deep State (CIA and State Dept) attack on Trump, using Ukraine, into a specific context.

(more…)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/24/putin-goes-all-in-beyond-eastern-ukraine-tactically-appearing-to-advance-for-all-ukraine/

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 25, 2022 11:16 am

Professors Fiona Russell Robert Booy, both infectious disease specialists have a piece in The Hun calling for the removal of masks from school kids.
TaliDan and his pet chief medico are fast running out of friends.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
February 25, 2022 11:17 am

I have been buying my clothes from a branded store which originated in NZ. Over 12 months ago I noted the clothing is made in Chy-na. I suggested to the store manager to tell his overlords to consider changing country of manufacture. Mgr told me yes they have had similar blow back from other customers.
I receive promo emails from said store and checked out a new jacket. I looked at the details: ‘woven in Italy’ cotton sourced from North America and blended in Italy’. No mention of actually made in Chy-na. Sneaky fockers!

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 11:23 am

https://notrickszone.com/2022/02/22/the-worlds-dumbest-energy-policy-just-got-dumber-the-frightening-race-to-reset-by-world-war/
Inflation?
In Germany?
A nation that invented hyperinflation?
Way to go, wunderkind.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 25, 2022 11:24 am

The Western elite’s conceit:
Believing that at heart everyone is a rootless liberal democrat made in their image

Exhibit A: Fukuyama

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 11:25 am

I looked at the details: ‘woven in Italy’ cotton sourced from North America and blended in Italy’.

By Chinese workers in Italy.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 25, 2022 11:25 am

2/3 of the Worlds population would kill you before lunch if given the chance.

Speedbox
February 25, 2022 11:26 am

Hot Lips Houlihan brown bread. 84 years.

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 11:27 am

There are many very very old diesel-electric locos still operating in Australia eg 48 class- I’m wondering if the zealots (or disingenuous economic saboteurs) will come after them. I did hear something about Kean trash.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 25, 2022 11:28 am

By Chinese workers in Italy

With Covid

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 11:29 am

Calli:

I’m grateful for the commentary here. The whole Russia/Ukraine thing is doing my head in.

Baddies vs Baddies, except I feel a bit sorry for the Ukrainian people. Last century was pretty much a remake of hell for them.
(That doesn’t mean I sympathise with Nazis either.)

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 11:30 am

mh says:
February 24, 2022 at 10:54 pm

According to Trump, Putin was emboldened by Biden’s complete mishandling of the Afghanistan pullout.

“He saw the weakness and you know, it really started with the weakness in Afghanistan,” he said. “The way they pulled out of Afghanistan. I really believe that’s where he started thinking he could do this.”

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 11:33 am

Live from Ukraine: Russia Bombs Kyiv ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK2h4Ma-l0s

Streamed live 15 hours ago
Johnny FD [Bald and Bankrupt’s mate]
191K subscribers
I woke up to 99+ messages showing that Russia has bombed the capital city of Kyiv where I’m living, and has invaded the country. I’ll take you live on the streets to show you what is happening.

Dot
Dot
February 25, 2022 11:41 am

East “Ukraine” is Russian and always was. Ukraine proper has no claim to it now after disenfranchising and overthrowing the president the people in that region supported and voted in.

If that region can vote against the wishes of the rest of the nation, it makes the vote seem rigged doesn’t it?

If Putin and Russia were overwhelming popular, why hasn’t Putin taken control of these places after 7.5 years of separatism? It should have been a peaceful ceremony years ago.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 11:41 am

Just because someone’s using KC135 transponder codes on an interwebs thingy doesn’t necessarily make them one.

RC135 Rivet Joints electronic recce aircraft for (literal) days, baby! You’d be damned foolish not to have them up, hoovering up all the radar and comms data from the Russians as they can detect for as long as their crews can stay awake. With proper KC135s to keep them sustained, of course…

@Winston-

So. We did this to ourselves?

Particularly for the road industry. I do not believe that Aus.gov or the States outside NSW instituted any emissions regs of their own that are more stringent than the US/EU ones, but because of the global nature of vehicle markets you will inevitably end up with vehicles here that follow their demands.

But the rail network seems to be somewhat immune. We still have dinosaurs whose designs date from the late 40s and early 50s still in mainline service in Australia, and the most modern General Electric kit built here (UGL C44ACi)* is about 1 generation behind the US because their newest EVOlution-series prime movers are allegedly too tall to fit in our loading gauge. Having said that, Pacific National have ordered 50 locos that they want equipped with EVOs, and UGL in Sydney have 7 years to figure out how to squeeze it into their proven and popular C44 locomotive.

Don’t be too surprised about the smoking- GE’s 7FDLs and EVOs are considered to be among the most efficient medium-speed motors out there at the present time. And they all smoke like bastards when loaded up.

The only Cummins-powered freight locomotives in regular service are CBH’s CBH (very imaginative) class in WA, and the mechanically identical CM class run by leasing service RailFirst Asset Management. And those motors (basically high-speed Haul Truck motors attached to a generator instead of a transmission) do not use AdBlue.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 11:43 am

Hot Lips Houlihan brown bread. 84 years.

Sally Kellerman, who was the original “Hot Lips” in the film.

Dot
Dot
February 25, 2022 11:44 am

It has been said before, but Biden’s “election” and the shooting of Ashli Babbitt is not what I would call a “liberal democracy”.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 25, 2022 11:44 am

The mighty Russian army advances disregarding the clear danger of a Covid super spreader event.
The fools.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 11:45 am

Hot Lips Houlihan brown bread. 84 years.

Vale Ms Kellerman. I think she had a fine time on this planet.
Interestingly Loretta Swit is also 84.
I wonder if MASH could be made today?

local oaf
February 25, 2022 11:47 am

Indolent says:
February 25, 2022 at 9:59 am

What are the Odds of Four People All Having Children Working for Ukranian Gas Companies?

I’d heard of the Hunter Biden/Ukraine connection, but had no idea about Pelosi, Kerry and Romney. Are any of their kids still working for Ukraine gas companies?

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 11:49 am

Knuckle Dragger:

All of these things should happen, regardless of current European events. Because we have lived in the most peaceful period in human history, people have been running countries on Hail Marys in the hope that the current state of affairs will continue indefinitely, and nobody will ever be nasty ever again.*
Exhibit A – Australia has something called a strategic fuel reserve that is neither strategic, nor a reserve – because it’s on the other side of the Pacific fucking Ocean. It works on the premise that commercial sea lanes will be forever uninterrupted. It’s bullshit.**

.1 * Nicely put.
.2 ** and the best part is it’s the insurance companies that will halt the tankers, not the exposure to the enemies missiles/submarines/trawlers. The government can indemnify the owners against losses, but that will take them at least a week to get through the bureaucracy. There goes the buffer – and the ships won’t have sailed yet. Any sips in transit will head straight for the nearest port whether the cargo can be offloaded or not. Any enemy worth their salt will have flushed their submarine fleet to have a Happy Time among the fleets standing outside the grid locked ports of the Western nations.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 11:49 am

There are many very very old diesel-electric locos still operating in Australia eg 48 class- I’m wondering if the zealots (or disingenuous economic saboteurs) will come after them.

I’ve seen a lot of woke chatter amongst railfans (of all creatures) about pollutants and smoky motors and so forth, but the regulations regarding noise pollution and other things like that in NSW are already fairly onerous without stopping traffic completely.

The problem is (and I have little doubt that this has been pointed out to any bureaucrat who has tried), is that the old stuff is very often essential to getting vital grain and other export produce out of pioneer branchlines and the like, that will never take the weight of anything bigger or more modern than 1960s and 70s branchline designs.

You have the choice of upgrading the lines at massive cost for relatively little improvement in tonnages delivered vs. Gaia-offensive puffs of smoke vs. getting rid of the lot and replacing it with trucks. And then having to deal with the increased road crashes, injuries and fatalities, cost of road repairs, very public discontent and ultimately nastier emissions and fuel use statistics because it takes very many trucks to carry the equivalent mass in grain or produce of a single train.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 11:50 am

Oh and remember, before it eventually became Russia & Hillary’s ‘Uranium One’, it was part Australian Owned Uranium –

@BillCoats @Bil_Coa_one
14m
·
Hillary’s Uranium One Document With Signature Gets Leaked
https://gab.com/Bil_Coa_one/posts/107855793712290829

Yep, there was a reason Australia was the second largest ‘donator’ to The Clinton’s Filthy Foundation, signed over to the tyrants by BOTH sides of ‘our’ UNI-Party.

twostix
twostix
February 25, 2022 11:52 am

Ukraine found itself with artificially expanded borders when the USSR fell apart. Couldn’t believe its luck! And good for them, a little payment for the long suffering they endured, though students of history know not necessarily at the hands of the Russians per-se, but of the “international” communists that ran the USSR which isn’t necessarily the same thing – and Russians suffered under too.

The problem was, and this is the problem in eastern europe – and always has been, that their newly expanded territory was full of an ethnic group who didn’t really want to be part of that fake new country. And as neo-cons are so happy to remind us everyday: Ukrainians (the real ones) hate Russian’s guts. But there they all are stuck in a brand new fake artificial ‘modern’ ‘democracy’ like one big happy family. A mild problem, no?

So they set up a fake federation and pretend to be a federated “democracy” for 20 years. “We can all live happily together, but apart”, was the idea. But the subtext was always “Just remember who the real Ukrainians are, and we’re ultimately in charge of our country”. Then in 2010 eastern “Ukraine” I.e Russians manage, in a Trump style upset, to get their guy elected as president.

In 2010, Yanukovych won office for five years with 12.5?million votes (48.9 per cent) against 11.6?million votes (45.5 per cent) for Yulia Tymoshenko.

And in before lame Muh electoral corruption!:

A total of 3,149 international observers did monitor the January 17 presidential election in Ukraine.

[the OCSE] endorsed the first round of the Ukrainian presidential poll, saying it was of “high quality”

After the second round of the election international observers and the OSCE called the election transparent and honest

The situation was essentially Trump version 0.1. “Hey we have a ‘democracy‘ here, that means you aren’t allowed to elect anyone we don’t like, and we get to use any means necessary up to and including violence, to remove any that you do.”

So in 2014 the Ukrainians – the actual ones, with the backing of the Obama administration and EU (read Germany), after running the exact same playbook the international security state later ran against Trump: “corruption!” “Russian spy!”, “secret Putin stooge!”, violently staged a coup, overthrew the democratically elected president that they didn’t like, nor vote for (coincidentally), and installed a naked Junta. Which as we all know now – and curious people knew long ago, one of its quirky small pay backs for the favour was to put Hunter ‘crack head’ Biden onto the board of the largest energy company in the country, and all the rest that we know about re Russiagate and the “Ukraine” security apparatus’s deep involvement in that.

This was Euromaidan, and contrary to Johanna’s strange carry on above, in 2014 arguments about it all nearly tore the old Catallaxy apart all year. Though it’s interesting to see how people have shifted for the better now post Trump, in 2022. The old cold war mentality that reanimated zombie-like in 2014 appears to be stone cold dead and buried now, thank god. This is a new world order, so the people in charge seem to like to say these days, and it’s not 1982 anymore.

Post “coup” the “not-at-all Ukrainian” Russians in the east, understanding that the modern Ukraine “country” was now a farce and there was no future for them in it – which is exactly what the often neo-nazi curious Ukrainian revolutionaries were clearly telling them, attempted to separate. Naturally Ukrainian nationalists don’t want to give up the new territory they inherited from the Soviet Union, but certainly do want to get rid of their enemies in that territory whose duly elected president they had just overthrown in a coup.

So the anti-democratic failed Ukraine state has spent nearly ten years – with complete cover by the western media, disenfranchising, running low level ethnic cleansing programs and making fairly overt threats of genocide against their enemies in the east of the “country” (of the “you’re just lucky you’ve got Russia behind you there, or we’d have already dealt with you”).

This is why Russia has finally recognized the independence of those regions, and is now making clear that they won’t be touched. Neocons in the Biden regime, picking up right where they left off in 2016, have spent the last twelve months giving their puppets in Kiev and the neo-nazi militias in the east, the green light to the fix the Ukrainian’s little ethnic problem so as to secure Ukraine as an Iraq style “democratic” puppet state right on Russia’s border from which they can operate.

And here we are.

Dot
Dot
February 25, 2022 11:54 am

So they set up a fake federation and pretend to be a federated “democracy” for 20 years.

That reminds me of some country we’ve all lived in.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 25, 2022 11:55 am

The mighty Russian army advances disregarding the clear danger of a Covid super spreader event.
The fools.

quote of the week.

If covid don’t get ’em, Dan’s better equipped goons will.

YES. I am recommending that we send Dan’s goons off to fight the Ruskies.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 25, 2022 11:55 am

Guess old Stan won’t be getting another invite to FitzSimian’s pad then…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 11:58 am

Russian ship orders Ukrainians to surrender. ‘Go s—- yourself’ Ukrainians reply
By Chris Zappone

Audio has captured the moment a Russian warship told Ukraine border guards defending an island in the Black Sea to surrender or be fired on.

They responded:“go s—- yourself” before the Russians fired upon them.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has pledged to posthumously honour the group of border guards, whose final words were captured in audio, according to Pravda.

The State Border Service reported that communication with the guards was lost when the island was captured by the enemy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 12:04 pm

Russian ship orders Ukrainians to surrender.

Someone shot up a Turkish bulk carrier off Odessa. I suspect the Russians are shooting at anything that moves, but it wouldn’t be beyond thought if the poor Ukrainians were more than a bit antsy.

As I said before the Ukrainian Navy probably no longer exists. Haven’t seen any reports on that though.

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 12:04 pm

Eyrie:

Easy way to fix this. Everyone over 16 does some military training, keeps semi auto or better rifle, ammo and uniform at home. The more nerdish get to fly small armed military drones when required. Those who wish to fight the invaders, put on uniforms and have at it. More ammo available at neighbourhood depot.
Might give an invader pause before taking you on.

A bit like the Swiss model. Everyone – and I mean everyone, no exemptions – does their training at 18 for two years, building on the skills they learnt at 16 on weekend camps.
Like the Russian model. Have you seen the videos of Russian schoolkids stripping and reassembling AKs?
Then enlisted in the irregular militia.
“You don’t know how to shoot? We’ll teach you.”
“You don’t want to fight? We’ll make you.”

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 12:05 pm

feelthebern says:
February 25, 2022 at 6:36 am
Rex, last night you mentioned Salt Lake Potash.
The commonly held view is that the administration call was driven by one key creditor.
Their expectation that the two other largest creditors (Australian government & the German government) would just walk, leaving them to have a clear run at the asset for chump change.
But their problem now is they are going to be given a run for their money because it seems everyone is now wise to their strategy.
All told, it’s about a $A500mill debt & equity wipe out.
The new owner is going to make serious bank on the asset over the next decade.

My company was originally contracted to haul their product from Leonora to Freo for export, so it was a right embuggerance when they fell over at the last minute.

We’ll probably end up carrying their successor’s stuff, anyway. No problems with that. 🙂

twostix
twostix
February 25, 2022 12:05 pm

And what are to make about our “western” leaders bleating on when they’re talking about defending “our values” re Ukraine. A country run by a violently hyper-nationalist junta sprinkled with literal neo-nazis was installed after hundreds of thousands of protestors who didn’t like the “corrupt” democratically elected government of the time, (that coincidentally none of the protestors voted for), turned up, occupied the capital, invaded parliament and started shooting people.

Erm…ok?

Convoy’s and protestors around the world are you hearing this?

The current political classes over the top responses to our peaceful protests becomes a little clearer when you see what operates in their own minds. What their “values” actually are. Those are them, and when we turn up with our own protests against them, they, in their degenerate state, think that we’re all thinking the same as they do, and immediately reach for the gun.

Western ‘leader’, what is the name of the devil inside you? “My name is Hypocrisy.”

Speedbox
February 25, 2022 12:06 pm

Roger says:
February 25, 2022 at 10:36 am
The Western elite’s conceit: Believing that at heart everyone is a rootless liberal democrat made in their image.

Classic comment.

Bruce of Newcastle says:
February 25, 2022 at 10:46 am

Putin’s Predictabilities (VDH, 23 Feb)
But when the world is awash in oil, prices dip, and the United States reigns as the largest gas and oil producer, he hesitates. So he remained static between 2017 and 2020.

The author oversimplifies it. It wasn’t about oil per se. Russia wasn’t ready – the buttressing of their economy, expansion of their relationship with China and the modernisation of the Russian military were still underway. Added to that, President Trump was in the White House and his response was unpredictable.

That isn’t to say that Putin couldn’t have acted earlier if time became critical but those additional years from 2017 have fortified Russia massively, in every respect, from a western response. The west will try their very best to make the sanctions hurt and whilst Russia isn’t immune from some damage, it is significantly insulated.

The stop-start nature of Ukraine joining NATO may have also had some influence. But now, it is clear that Zelensky is more determined to get Ukraine accepted and whilst it’s going to be an uphill push, Putin may have concluded that time (next 2-3 years) was running out. Would Russia be in a materially better position in 2-3 years time? (A man like Biden in the White House; lock step with China; the world recovering from covid).

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 12:06 pm

It has been said before, but Biden’s “election” and the shooting of Ashli Babbitt is not what I would call a “liberal democracy”.

too damn right

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 12:07 pm

Cassie:

Smearing Orban as an ant-Semite (he’s not, the Hungarian Jewish community is the only Jewish community in Europe that’s growing)

That’s good news, Cassie, I didn’t know that.
I thought anyone who could, would be getting the hell out.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
February 25, 2022 12:07 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
February 25, 2022 at 11:44 am
The mighty Russian army advances disregarding the clear danger of a Covid super spreader event.
The fools.

They’re taking all valid scientific precautions.
They’re refraining from criticising Dan Andrews. It’s not a super spreader event as long as Maximum Leader isn’t being criticised.

Zipster
February 25, 2022 12:11 pm

I’d heard of the Hunter Biden/Ukraine connection, but had no idea about Pelosi, Kerry and Romney. Are any of their kids still working for Ukraine gas companies?

that others on both side of the isle had their spawn deep into the grift was hinted at years ago

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 12:11 pm

Milton F:

Giving up TV was one of the best things I ever did.

Damn straight.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 12:11 pm

Yay, I don’t have to wear a face nappy to church any more! After two years of stupid lies about the wretched things.

Mandatory face masks ditched in most settings around Australia from Friday (Sky News, 25 Feb)

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 12:13 pm

students of history know not necessarily at the hands of the Russians per-se, but of the “international” communists that ran the USSR which isn’t necessarily the same thing – and Russians suffered under too.

Which “International” Communists were those?

The Comintern, every Warsaw Pact state and every network of useful idoots and stooges in the West took their directions to the letter from the Kremlin and its apparatus. The Party did not suffer any deviation from its interpretation and application of Communism.

Unless you are trying to point out Uncle Joe was Georgian, which is historically accurate but a moot point.

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 12:14 pm

Boambee John:

If Hiden Biden (or whoever is pulling his strings) was in the least bit serious, then all the actions taken in January 2021 to reduce US hydrocarbon extraction by Executive Orders would now be reversed. Increase US output, screw down the price of oil and gas, and leave Putin bankrupt.

I wouldn’t like to bet on which way the O’Biden/Harris administration jumps.
It certainly won’t be to the side that benefits the US or the West.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 12:15 pm

Now, since the quips about WW3 have started, I am calling Dos Gringos in for a gun run:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8A_YEsLbLBY

#ClearedHot

Megan
Megan
February 25, 2022 12:16 pm

Winston Smithsays:
February 25, 2022 at 12:11 pm
Milton F:

Giving up TV was one of the best things I ever did.

Damn straight.

Less stress and more time to do other things. And no fighting the urge to throw bricks at a very expensive screen. What’s not to like?

Chris
Chris
February 25, 2022 12:17 pm

Yay, I don’t have to wear a face nappy to church any more! After two years of stupid lies about the wretched things.

Mandatory face masks ditched in most settings around Australia from Friday (Sky News, 25 Feb)

Our church has gone full-online this weekend because McClown government rules.

Zipster
February 25, 2022 12:19 pm

Yay, I don’t have to wear a face nappy to church any more! After two years of stupid lies about the wretched things.

china’s humiliation of the west, a face gag

Megan
Megan
February 25, 2022 12:20 pm

Scummo makes the risible claim that Australia stands up to bullies.

But only if they are Russian. The WHO, WEF, CHOs, DickHead State Premiers and greedy Pharmaceutical companies, not so much.

Megan
Megan
February 25, 2022 12:20 pm

Not to mention the disgraceful bullies in police uniforms around the country.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 12:20 pm

Rex Anger says:
February 25, 2022 at 12:13 pm

[…]the “international” communists that ran the USSR which isn’t necessarily the same thing – and Russians suffered under too.

Which “International” Communists were those?
[…]
Unless you are trying to point out Uncle Joe was Georgian, which is historically accurate but a moot point.

sigh … are you trying to toss out the bloody stupid distraction squirrel that Joseph Stalin invented Communism, that it didn’t exist elsewhere, like in the West, before him?

meh, it is you, of course you are.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 12:22 pm

Remember when the US made China ‘Most Favoured Nation’ despite its appalling record of human rights abuses, claiming that trade would lead to change in China?

Instead of them importing “Western” values, we are importing theirs.

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 12:22 pm

132and Bush:

Re EVs; I hope enough people buy the stupid things and literally melt the grid down. When people are dying, after the country has been without power for a couple of weeks and struggling to “Black start” the grid, that the light will go on for a lot of people.

Yes. This goes back to my theory on alcoholics – they have to suffer the consequences of their addiction before they learn. Sometimes the teaching of that lesson hurts the people around them as well.

(Yes, I’m in a foul mood today because of the way I was treated at the docs surgery. But I will get over my anger at being treated like a leper, the people who treated me like this will remain ignorant. To hell with them.)

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 12:26 pm

Scummo makes the risible claim that Australia stands up to bullies.

Start with the AFP then.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 12:27 pm

sigh … are you trying to toss out the bloody stupid distraction squirrel that Joseph Stalin invented Communism, that it didn’t exist elsewhere, like in the West, before him?

meh, it is you, of course you are.

Faulty 2.0, your best contribution to any discussion is your silence.

Karl Marx and Frederich Engels were long dead by the time Lenin and co had cemented their power. And the Russian Party under Lenin and then Stalin, had asserted their status as the standard-carriers of worldwide communism.

The Comintern was theirs.

Any non-Russian Party member (Russian or not) you may care to fling at me because they were Comintern, means nothing. They had no influence over world communism’s direction and took all their orders and agendas from Moscow, or they were excommunicated and/or killed.

132andBush
132andBush
February 25, 2022 12:28 pm

Farmer Gez says:
February 25, 2022 at 9:47 am

I’ve been wrongly accused of complaining with malice aforethought
I wish to lodge a complaint.
Where’s the Complaints Department?

We must “all look the same” to some people.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 12:30 pm

Fair Shake

I receive promo emails from said store and checked out a new jacket. I looked at the details: ‘woven in Italy’ cotton sourced from North America and blended in Italy’. No mention of actually made in Chy-na. Sneaky fockers!

Much of the clothing trade in Italy uses Chinese workers flown. That was one of the reasons that Italy suffered early from the Kung Flu. Lots of Chinese returning from Chinese New Year.

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 12:30 pm

As I said before the Ukrainian Navy probably no longer exists. Haven’t seen any reports on that though.

Reported yesterday that Ukrainian navy ships had been either destoyed or neutralised.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 25, 2022 12:32 pm

Twostix 100% correct.
Jimmy Dore talks to Max Blumenthal from the Grayzone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm8QfxZ3HHw

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 12:32 pm

Ignore that.

I forgot that some are only allowed to post links but not share personal opinion.

Commenting on links makes it harder for others to accept all the praise tossed their way when they post them later with & as ‘their’ opinions.

Open Forums are great, for reminding people who gets the bouquets and who must be drowned in the buckets.

I say this as someone’s who’s got to enjoy both China’s Firewall and ‘our own’.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 25, 2022 12:33 pm

The IMF money into Ukraine & straight back out to offshore accounts is astounding.
10% for the big guy.
Similar to the GFC bail out money that went to AIG & straight back out to Goldmans.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 25, 2022 12:36 pm

Sure, put sanctions on Russia, why not.
But sanctions should be hitting all the Ukraine billionaires who have filleted the country too.

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 12:36 pm

srr:

Ukrainian Security Forces Seen Scrambling to Burn Documents in Kyiv as Russian Invasion Intensifies

How did they get to Kiev? Via the Kiev Reservoir from Belarus? Does this mean that Belarus is also invading the Ukraine?
The Russian border is several hundred Km away from Kiev.
If they used just airbourne forces, the Ukrainians should be able to sort them out quickly.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 12:37 pm

Every advertisement will now include 1 brown person, 1 yellow person, 1 green-haired white lesbian, 1 dog and 1 cat.

How ads with dogs and cats affect consumer behavior (Phys.org, 24 Feb)

These results are supported across multiple product and service contexts. For example, exposure to dogs (cats) led research participants to choose riskier (risk-averse) options in decision making, such as choosing the riskier stock investment option (the less risky mutual fund investment option), and more willing to risk monetary compensation for a chance to win an even a bigger payment. In addition, exposure to dogs (cats) led participants to prefer ad messages that are framed with a promotion (prevention) focus or messages featuring eagerness (vigilance) appeals.

I confess I’m mystified by the whole “dogs (cats)” thing throughout the article. It sounds like anything dogs are for cats are against. Maybe so. But since I’m neither I don’t think I’ll buy what’s on offer.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 25, 2022 12:38 pm

Groan, the Oz give Karl Rove space.

duncanm
duncanm
February 25, 2022 12:39 pm

Rogersays:
February 25, 2022 at 8:32 am

Thanks for the tip Roger. I find Tan very hit and miss, but he nails it here.

Some very good points made.

.. liberal democracy can leave us unmoored: it hollows out our communities, it mocks tradition, banishes faith from the public square.

Liberalism elevates the individual to the point of alienation.

Gabor
Gabor
February 25, 2022 12:41 pm

feelthebern says:
February 25, 2022 at 12:33 pm

The IMF money into Ukraine & straight back out to offshore accounts is astounding.
10% for the big guy.
Similar to the GFC bail out money that went to AIG & straight back out to Goldmans.

The reason the influential money men via the EU hate Hungary.
They paid off the IMF loans the previous regime borrowed and refused to take on any more.

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 12:42 pm

How did they get to Kiev?

Via Belarus, reportedly.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 12:42 pm

I forgot that some are only allowed to post links but not share personal opinion.

Poor Faulty 2.0

Glass jaws are a terrible impediment to online life…

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 25, 2022 12:43 pm

because of the way I was treated at the docs surgery

Metoo.

I am getting the ingredients together for some very slow vengeance.

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 12:44 pm

Thanks for the tip Roger. I find Tan very hit and miss, but he nails it here.

I do wonder if Stan has posting rights on the ABC News site because I can’t see an ABC editor approving that piece, or maybe even understanding it!

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 25, 2022 12:44 pm

very slow cooked vengeance.

FMD, I’m outta here. Belarus looks nice.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 25, 2022 12:47 pm

Big news from NZ hot off the press. FlyingDuk and any other ADF or cops might be interested. Cant find the reference but didn’t the PM say nobody should lose their job for not taking a vaccine. In fact if anybody can find a link to footage of him saying that it would be appreciated.

“In a landmark victory, the High Court has ruled in favour of a group of Police officers and Defence Force members who applied for a judicial review of the government vaccine mandates imposed on them.

Because of the vaccine mandate imposed upon them, more than 100 uniformed professionals were due to be dismissed from March 1, 2022.

However, the High Court has ruled that the mandate was, in fact, unlawful.

The following was provided in a statement to The Daily Examiner:

“The Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety said that he had made the mandate to ensure continuity of services provided by the NZDF and Police, but there was evidence that he had been told by public health experts that there was no requirement for a vaccine mandate on public health grounds.

The Court agreed that the mandate imposed on members of Police and NZDF limited their rights, and that the government had not demonstrated that this limitation was justified in a free democratic society.”

Keeping people safe is what drives the members of Police and NZDF that challenged this mandate. However, the way that the mandate was imposed by the government is unjustified. It applied to everyone, including people who were working from home, and those who had genuine personal reasons to decline the vaccine.

The vaccine mandate is wrong. It does not allow consideration of exceptional individual circumstances. The Vaccine Order does not allow other ways to keep people safe, for example, regular testing or working from home.

This case is not about being “anti-vaccine”. The police officers and NZDF members who challenged this mandate care about the health of all New Zealanders. By making the vaccine mandate in the way that they have, this government has turned what should be a health issue into an issue of fundamental human rights.

Matt King, former National Party MP and Police Officer spoke to The Daily Examiner:

“This is a massive day for us and a massive day for New Zealand. This has set a precedent for all other workforces and strengthens the cases against vaccine mandates across all sectors. Now that this mandate has been ruled unlawful, the effects of it will be reversed, and those NZDF and Police personnel who lost their jobs will now be able to return to work.”

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 12:48 pm

A primer on the dark thoughts of Putin’s éminence grise at Quadrant Online.

To imagine that sanctions are going to defeat this is typical late modern Western lunacy.

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 12:53 pm

I think one of the most pathetic and idiotic aspects of TV ‘news’ (when I used to watch it) was when they would interview a wakademic (he/she/it is ‘smart’ doncha know) and said wacademic is either shown tapping on a computer keyboard or taking a book down from a shelf that contains lotsa other books.

Lysander
Lysander
February 25, 2022 12:53 pm

I’m not a Doomtard but this shit in Ukraine could really get out of hand… (it is a bit already but I mean REALLY out of hand).

Razey
Razey
February 25, 2022 12:53 pm

Bourne1879says:
February 25, 2022 at 12:47 pm
Big news from NZ hot off the press. FlyingDuk and any other ADF or cops might be interested. Cant find the reference but didn’t the PM say nobody should lose their job for not taking a vaccine. In fact if anybody can find a link to footage of him saying that it would be appreciated.

According to the NSW supreme court Australians dont have human rights. So yeah, wont affect us in Staziland

Lysander
Lysander
February 25, 2022 12:54 pm

Surely, as it gets worse, China will be thinking “Taiwan?”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 12:57 pm

I have just come across “agility dogs”. Amazing what you can learn.

New information on the routines of competition-level agility dogs in Finland (Phys.org, 24 Feb)

A dataset comprising nearly 750 Finnish agility dogs collected by researchers at the University of Helsinki reveals that there are differences in training and competing between different dog skill categories and sizes. Most of the dogs practiced agility once or twice a week. Typically, the time spent on active training was a little under 20 minutes per week.

That’s the first para. I’m none the wiser, other than they’re Finnish.

Dogs at the highest competitive level trained less per week than dogs competing in the lower categories. The researchers speculate that the reason for this is that maintaining the skill level of more experienced dogs requires less training, whereas less advanced dogs require more repetition to acquire new skills.

The higher the level of competing dogs, the more frequently they participated in competitions and the faster they completed the courses. As the skill category went up, so did the share of faultless runs.

“The dogs typically completed two agility runs per month, with the average speed of over 4 m/s,” says doctoral researcher Leena Inkilä from the Faculty of Veterinary Medicine, University of Helsinki.

The next three paras. I’m still mystified. No idea what an agility dog is. It also sounds like the less they train the more successful they are. Finland is a weird place.

In Finland, competing agility dogs are divided into five height categories. In competitions, the jump height in proportion to a dog’s height at the withers (the area above the shoulders) increases according to height category. This was also reflected in the jump heights used in training. Higher jumps can cause greater strain on the musculoskeletal system in larger dogs. In addition, the speed of the dogs was greater in the larger categories.

That’s para #5. Ok, it’s some sort of competition, with five different dog heights. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard about “dog withers” before.

Almost all of the dogs involved in the study were warmed up before agility runs and cooled down afterwards, usually for roughly 10 to 20 minutes. More than 60% of the dogs received musculoskeletal care at least once every three months, with massage and physiotherapy the most commonly used therapies.

Para #6. One should always warm up your agility dog, then cool him down afterwards. I’m still unsure what an agility dog is. The final three paras of the article don’t say either. Finns are odd. I love the daily science news.

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 12:58 pm

Surely, as it gets worse, China will be thinking “Taiwan?”

Notable that China has refused to call Putin’s actions an “invasion.”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 25, 2022 1:01 pm

The mighty Russian army advances disregarding the clear danger of a Covid super spreader event.
The fools.

‘The decision to invade Ukraine was made using the best available health advice.’

Lysander
Lysander
February 25, 2022 1:01 pm

Indeed Roger.

Also VERY notable that China have lifted some economic sanctions on Russia this morning.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 1:01 pm

Probe released into political donations made by AWU when Bill Shorten was national secretary

Exclusive
Geoff Chambers
Chief Political Correspondent
@Chambersgc
An hour ago February 25, 2022

A four-year probe into political donations made by the Australian Workers’ Union when Bill Shorten was national secretary has found the AWU broke the law and breached its own rules on 20 occasions.

The Registered Organisations Commission has released its final report, revealing the AWU contravened the Registered Organisations Act nine times by lodging annual loans, grants and donations statements between 2006 and 2016 “either outside of the statutory timeframe requirements or by not lodging a required statement at all”.

The report, released by Registered Organisations Commissioner Mark Bielecki this week, said in some cases the annual statements “were not lodged until years after the statutory periods had elapsed”.

“The AWU has admitted it failed to lodge a LGD statement at all in 2007 and has never met that obligation in circumstances in which its internal records showed that it made about $42,000 of donations that have never been disclosed to its members. This included at least three political donations totalling $33,000,” the report said.

“The AWU did not follow the processes set out in its own rules, in particular Rule 57, on 20 occasions between 2006 and 2008. That is because its National Executive failed to consider or satisfy itself of the matters set out in Rule 57 of the AWU’s rules in respect of each of the 20 donations.

“While some records and the relevant Minutes of the National Executive have been produced and examined, the AWU has failed to, and admitted that it cannot, produce any evidence of express resolutions by the National Executive authorising any of the 20 relevant donations.”

The ROC’s AWU investigation, which began in 2017, was triggered after senior union sources told The Australian that Mr Shorten “was a founding director of the political activist group GetUp and that the AWU’s rules concerning donations were not followed when $100,000 was donated to GetUp by the AWU”.

ANOTHER AWU slush fund?

bons
bons
February 25, 2022 1:04 pm

Jisus. 125 miliflans during the past hour. The lower lying streets are calf deep and I have the pool on quarter speed drain just to keep up.
Enough now!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 25, 2022 1:04 pm

Breaking news:

France just surrendered.

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 1:06 pm

Also VERY notable that China have lifted some economic sanctions on Russia this morning.

Earlier this month Xi described Putin as his best friend as they signed a joint communique on future cooperation.

The West is now a jilted lover.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 25, 2022 1:07 pm

The decision to invade Ukraine was made using the best available health advice.

The Science is in then. Eh?

Cassie of Sydney
February 25, 2022 1:07 pm

“twostixsays:
February 25, 2022 at 11:52 am”

Great comment.

Lysander
Lysander
February 25, 2022 1:08 pm

France just surrendered.

The French surrendered long ago (and, no, I don’t mean WWII).. 😛

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 25, 2022 1:09 pm

KD owes a few people keyboards.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 1:09 pm

FMD, I’m outta here. Belarus looks nice.

Inco – Belarus is next, surely you realize that? Lukashenko has nukes and is a bit of a nutter, so it’s not a given. But he’s very pro Russia. An Anschluss would seem a high probability though, if the price is right.

Lysander
Lysander
February 25, 2022 1:09 pm

Earlier this month Xi described Putin as his best friend as they signed a joint communique on future cooperation.

I know this is entering the realms of science fiction but it’d be very hard for anyone to defeat a Chinese/Russian alliance…

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 25, 2022 1:12 pm

Xi described Putin as his best friend …

Watch the left. Watch the left. Watch the left. [ Wack! groan! ]

Lysander
Lysander
February 25, 2022 1:15 pm

Is Belarus truly an option?

Why not head down to Romania while you’re at it and link up with your Turkish mates?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 1:15 pm

A primer on the dark thoughts of Putin’s éminence grise at Quadrant Online.

1930s-style Fascism, rebadged and with a few stylistic updates to reflect the times, technology and tactics.

History may not repeat, but damned if it doesn’t rhyme…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 1:16 pm

Good link, Roger.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 1:17 pm

I know this is entering the realms of science fiction but it’d be very hard for anyone to defeat a Chinese/Russian alliance…

Barbarossa 2.0 kicking off from Harbin northwards, anyone?

twostix
twostix
February 25, 2022 1:18 pm

My ultimate thoughts on this, which have not changed one smidge since 2014:

Ukraine must accept that it cannot and never did legitimately hold those regions in the east as part of its country, and must cede them now that any possible trust and future between them was broken since 2014.

Ukraine is a proper nation and has a right to live and breath and will continue to do so inside its more or less traditional borders where its people live and have always lived. And as long as it behaves itself will be granted the protection of the “west”, in heart and mind, all the way up to military response if Russia really lost its mind and went on a suicidal rampage and pushed into the Ukraine proper. Though it should probably ask Poland what any of that means in practice and whether it’s worth it.

Modern Russia, whether “our leaders” like it or not, as any major regional power does, has a right to influence smaller unstable countries on its borders that are playing the big boys against each other for their own gain, or naively and stupidly allowing predatory, disruptive influences into the region – such as the EU aka Germany. In exactly the same way that we and everyone else does, to a reasonable point.

Finally, and this is post Trump thinking, the momentum that was built around Ukraine and the democrats during the Trump years must be pressed. The amount of influence and corruption being pedaled in that failed state – a failure orchestrated by them – in order to provide them, the western “global” classes and political movements a base to operate financially and politically from, outside of their own individual nation’s oversight that they actually live in is immense and as we saw during the Trump years, dangerous to our own actual “democracies”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 1:21 pm

Not enough fictional people are fighting fictional climate change.

The missing ingredient to fight the climate crisis: Positive fictional role models (Phys.org, 24 Feb)

Maybe it would help if the climateers could avoid nonfictional role models like Kerry and Gore flying in their Learjets, and DiCaprio and Bezos sailing around in their ginormous “yachts”.

Roger
Roger
February 25, 2022 1:23 pm

1930s-style Fascism, rebadged and with a few stylistic updates to reflect the times, technology and tactics.

Only Russian Messianism is much older than Fascism.

Russian nationalists came to see Moscow as destined to be the Third Rome, the successor to the glories of Rome and Constantinople, in late medieval times.

bons
bons
February 25, 2022 1:25 pm

Will the West draw the line at the Baltics or will they be “small countries far away that most people have never heard of”.
The most extraordinary thing about imperialist dictators is that they fail to understand that invaded nations always eventually regain their freedom.
Similar situation with idiot Trudeau. Repression is always transitory, especially in Western culture. The idiot moved too fast and too hard, he has flicked off the ambivalent constituents. He had better start examining those marginal seats, if he ever permits another election. The positive thing is that he may have put an end to Canada’s lazy leftism.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
February 25, 2022 1:26 pm

As I said before the Ukrainian Navy probably no longer exists. Haven’t seen any reports on that though

Last sighting of the Ukrainian Naval Forces.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 1:29 pm

Ukraine must accept that it cannot and never did legitimately hold those regions in the east as part of its country, and must cede them now

Haha, so we should immediately cede Australia to 250 First Nations eh?

Who owns what has been a difficult question ever since Abraham arrived in Canaan.

Possession is 9 tenths of the law and the other tenth is military preparation. Which Ukraine seems to’ve dropped the ball on.

Tom
Tom
February 25, 2022 1:29 pm

Groan, the Oz give Karl Rove space.

Poor old Karl is the bloke who operates ventriloquest dummy “Cocaine” Mitch McConnell and the rest of the ossified NeverTrump Republican Party establishment who, like the Biden family and the Democrats, are making millions/billions out of deals with the Chinese Communist Party.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 25, 2022 1:38 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
February 25, 2022 at 12:37 pm
Every advertisement will now include 1 brown person, 1 yellow person, 1 green-haired white lesbian, 1 dog and 1 cat
.
Don’t forget, you need a slobby white bloke to be the patsy in TV ads. I’ve noticed that there seems to be no decency on the depths of decrepitude which men are allowed to sink to- overweight, unshaven, unco-ordinated, unthinking. Off the top of my head, NBN, Wallet Wizard, BCF, Hilux, Carlton Draft.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 1:39 pm

Is Belarus truly an option?

Why not head down to Romania while you’re at it and link up with your Turkish mates?

Lysander – Belarus is part of BURK. Romania isn’t.

If you are going to re-establish Tsarist Russia ask yourself what bits need to be reacquired in what order? It’s obvious. Apart from technical issues (like that one bit has nukes and a mad dictator).

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 25, 2022 1:42 pm

And, a confession- I’ve been on a bit of a twitter bender for the last month or so. It did widen my sources of news a little as I’d hoped, but I reckon it had made my thinking and expression shallower. And it made me a bit of a flanneur on Catallaxy.
So, my Donetsk-Tibet-cultural colonization brainfart died quickly, and thanks to the cat which pricked the bubble.
Twostix- impressive.

shatterzzz
February 25, 2022 1:42 pm

Jisus. 125 miliflans during the past hour. The lower lying streets are calf deep and I have the pool on quarter speed drain just to keep up.
Enough now!

I’ve been biking in the rain all week .. sounds silly, I know but the alternative is staying home and boredom .. pretty safe tho, as I’m sticking to the bike tracks so other than the odd road crossing and occasional flooding starting to get used to riding, soaked ….. LOL!

Cassie of Sydney
February 25, 2022 1:43 pm

“If you are going to re-establish Tsarist Russia ask yourself what bits need to be reacquired in what order? It’s obvious. Apart from technical issues (like that one bit has nukes and a mad dictator).”

I don’t see Putin as mad.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 1:44 pm

Putin should immediately hand Ukraine over to the Crimean Caliphate and Lithuania, who owned it between them in the 15th-16th centuries.

OTOH the Sarmatians might be unhappy, as the prior owners.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 1:45 pm

Did I forget to say that Genoa used to own Crimea? Someone should ring up the Italian Prez and ask him to send over a peacekeeping force immediately.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 1:46 pm

I don’t see Putin as mad.

Cassie – I meant Lukashenko.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 1:49 pm
Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
February 25, 2022 1:49 pm

Pauline Hanson’s new cartoon is an instant smash hit.

https://youtu.be/tdYBpW8BHFU

Cassie of Sydney
February 25, 2022 1:49 pm

“Bruce of Newcastlesays:
February 25, 2022 at 1:44 pm
Putin should immediately hand Ukraine over to the Crimean Caliphate and Lithuania, who owned it between them in the 15th-16th centuries.”

Except there are no Tartars left in the Ukraine. Stalin deported them to Siberia.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
February 25, 2022 1:50 pm

Putin should immediately hand Ukraine over to the Crimean Caliphate and Lithuania, who owned it between them in the 15th-16th centuries.

OTOH the Sarmatians might be unhappy, as the prior owners.

Time for the Scythians to make a comeback.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 1:51 pm

As I was saying …

I forgot that some are only allowed to post links but not share personal opinion.

Rex Anger says:
February 25, 2022 at 12:27 pm
[…] your best contribution to any discussion is your silence.

Knew the idiots couldn’t stay schtum much longer.

So the idiot does his/their usual, bunch of selective quoting and repaint all their bloody stupid insults as if only aimed at ONE ‘acceptable’ target (they can’t go upsetting more than one on the same issue, it may remind people that NONE of their targets are alone), and then they simply wander off to re-tell tales to fit the propaganda they have to push.

Well this valid comment was made –

[…]the “international” communists that ran the USSR which isn’t necessarily the same thing – and Russians suffered under too.

And the Pro-EU/Clinton/obama/Biden et al Mobster propagandist has to try to spin it the Mobsters’ way, bullshitting that what was said, and this below, are two opposites –

“The Communist International, also known as the Third International, was an international organization founded in 1919 that advocated world communism, headed by the Soviet Union.”
____

All while trying to stick his shit to one everyone has a free pass to bullshit about.

Again, this is NOT about me & NEVER has been.

It has always been Alinskyite, ‘ISOLATE EVERYONE against you, as if each is only a lone individual‘, social terrorism.

It really is pathetic how few dare call them out on such blatant, old hat, Communist Propaganda tactics.

Bruce in WA
February 25, 2022 1:52 pm

Well, Cats, may not be around for some time.

Just had a phone call from the ATO. I’m being charged with “tax avoidation” [sic].

Hope they go easy on me.

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