Open Thread – Tues 29 Mar 2022


Rasputitsa, Alexei Savrasov, 1894

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Fair Shake
Fair Shake
March 29, 2022 3:10 am

Thank you I d like to thank the ‘thwack’ Academy

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
March 29, 2022 3:14 am

… chokes back tears, ‘I want to be a river to my people …of Lismore ‘
Thwack.
Too soon?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
March 29, 2022 3:20 am

…after seeing the action of the Academy Awards, looks forward to Melbourne Comedy Festival. Might take the wife.

Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 4:13 am
bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 4:30 am

John H.says:
March 29, 2022 at 4:09 am

They get the point across without the rage.

Good stuff.

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 5:19 am

Chris Rock won the Oscars slap fight. He won it by refusing to escalate the violence and by refusing to ask an authority figure to step in on his behalf—there was no call for “security” and he appears not to be pressing charges against Smith.

will
will
March 29, 2022 5:25 am
Gabor
Gabor
March 29, 2022 5:26 am

bespoke says:

March 29, 2022 at 5:19 am

Chris Rock won the Oscars slap fight. He won it by refusing to escalate the violence and by refusing to ask an authority figure to step in on his behalf—there was no call for “security” and he appears not to be pressing charges against Smith.

Didn’t go to the link, sorry, time is money here, but I disagree.
Will had done the only thing possible, you cannot argue with stupid insensitive pricks.

As to calling security? For what? Too late bro, the deed was done.
Not pressing charges?
Blimey, I should think so, according to today’s standards he should be charged for something or other, violating something, rights or whatever, I think.

Gabor
Gabor
March 29, 2022 5:28 am

that would be the slappee who should be charged!!

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 5:35 am
rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 5:46 am

Just as well both involved were poc.
Though I think racism is probably the root cause of Rock overstepping the joke line and Smith taking offence.
Also toxic masculinity something something.

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 5:49 am

Will had done the only thing possible, you cannot argue with stupid insensitive pricks.

I see it differently Gabor.

“It’s Ok to belittle others but not me because I’m special”

If the footage is correct Smith didn’t take offence and thought it funny until his wife gave him the stink eye.

The theme of show from what little I’ve seen it was cheep fact free shots at Florida.

So I don’t care about the feelings of either party they are just clowns in the circus.

Gabor
Gabor
March 29, 2022 5:57 am

A rumor, worthy of Anne, according to WSJ, (unknown sources of course) Roman Abramovich and two of the Ukrainian peace delegates have been poisoned.
By the Russians obviously, needless to say.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 5:59 am

Flicking through Twitter I see quite a few people think Andrew’s covid is a convenient excuse to avoid the Warne funeral.
The spin is in.
#avoidingtheboos

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 6:08 am

I hate the way these guys are going back and forth to the negotiation table.
People are dying.
time to talk turkey in Turkey

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 6:19 am

Erdogan playing peace maker!

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 6:19 am

Incidentally it’s all very well to talk about past wars and how there are circumstances where taking prisoners is a practical impossibility or people are so overwhelmed in the moment they kill surrending enemies.
The former is reality, the second somewhat understandable though I’m sure for everyone that didn’t exercise self restraint many more did.
That doesn’t excuse cold blooded torture just because you can.

I also remember reading about German soldiers preventing civilians, furious at being bombed by the Allies, from murdering downed air crews.

Nothing to do with Geneva Conventions, a lot more to do with morality.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 6:24 am
bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 6:33 am

It’s mess, rosie. Not worth the agro and I only drew the line at loony clames that Putin is some defender of Christendom or the Ukrainion leadaship are angels.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 6:42 am

All true bespoke, all I want is for it to be over as soon as possible.

Petros
Petros
March 29, 2022 6:43 am

Al Jazeera has a nice map that is updated daily showing how far the Russians have allegedly advanced. The area has grown steadily. The news site is generally anti-Russian so it would seem strange to exaggerate the Russian success. Rosie gets her news from the Guardian so that says it all.

Gabor
Gabor
March 29, 2022 6:43 am

I draw the credulity lone at where any Biden is involved.
That the US can have a president like him is a disgrace.

Gabor
Gabor
March 29, 2022 6:43 am

Line FFS

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 6:47 am

Me too rosie.

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 6:55 am

lone

Disgraceful! Dover please ban Gabor.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 7:00 am

Says it all?
I get my news from multiple sources as anyone who isn’t hyperbiased would acknowledge.
Nor do I ever swallow reports from this or that source whole, unlike some. All reports are intended to be subject to criticism not merely dismissed out of hand because big evil.

What I look for is objective analysis of events, especially from certain rational knowledgable people here, not rah rah for this side or the other.
Otherwise we no different to Rudd bots fulminating about Murdoch monolopies.

Anchor What
Anchor What
March 29, 2022 7:01 am

Garrison is unusually direct with his latest cartoon. However, I can’t say Joe was off the mark with his comment regarding Putin.
If Milosevic, Mladic and Karadzic plus others can be indicted and hauled before an international court, why not Putin?
Simply because he’s Russian, not Serbian or African?

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 7:01 am

If the Guardian article is wrong then articulate why.
Al jazeera as an unbiased source though.

Anchor What
Anchor What
March 29, 2022 7:02 am

Down with monolopies!

Diogenes
Diogenes
March 29, 2022 7:05 am

It’s mess, rosie.

A pox on both their houses. The propaganda war is disgusting and one needs to take everything you see and hear with a massive grain of salt.

Gabor
Gabor
March 29, 2022 7:06 am

Anchor What says:
March 29, 2022 at 7:01 am

If Milosevic, Mladic and Karadzic plus others can be indicted and hauled before an international court, why not Putin?

Winners make the rules, simples.

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 7:14 am

Diogenes

Yep and it’s not relativism it’s resistance to being a puppet.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 7:14 am

Al Jazeera has a nice map that is updated daily showing how far the Russians have allegedly advanced. The area has grown steadily

In the Donbas area I would suspect. The Russians have had to pull back to Irpin NW of Kiev and about 50 km east of Kiev. Also they’ve pulled back from Mykolaiev to Kherson, where there’s been fighting in the suburbs. That means no chance of taking Odessa. Serious losses in those three areas in the last week, with reports that at least two Russian BTG’s being forced back to Belarus to reorganize.

Also there are reports and footage of Russian forces are moving out of Sth Ossetia and yesterday from Nagorno-Karabakh. The latter is a worry as the Russians are all that is keeping the Azeris from ethnic cleansing the place of Armenians, since the latter lost the war last year (the Azeris had help from Turkey). The Russians stepped in as peacekeepers when the cease-fire was negotiated.

The two best twitter feeds are still Maj Gen Ryan (ex-commandant ADF college) and Phillips O’Brien (Prof at Uni of St Andrews). They’re about as professional and centrist as you’ll get in this mess.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 7:22 am

You heretic BoN.
I just clicked through Major General Ryan’s account and his analysis was published by the ABC.
How could you expose people to such trash?

calli
calli
March 29, 2022 7:34 am

Ricky Gervais and allusions to the seedier side of Hollywood are sooooo 2020.

Let’s have Chris Rock and bald jokes instead! With offended wymmyn, and offended husbands, and offended slapping! And lots of entriggered column writing and speculation on slapping technique.

That’ll get the punters back to the movies, for sure.

calli
calli
March 29, 2022 7:36 am

Who said “black on black” violence wasn’t a thing?

At least no one can pull the race card.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 29, 2022 7:44 am

Chris Rock and Will Smith don’t like each other and it goes back to 2016 when Rock made a joke about Jada Smith boycotting the Oscars because of a lack of black representation.
Rock pointed out Jada was a tv actress and it would be like him boycotting Rihanna’s panties, he wasn’t invited.
Big bad Will didn’t like that or the numerous jokes about him being cuckolded by his wife.

Petros
Petros
March 29, 2022 7:46 am

The Al Jazeera map largely correlates with the French government map. Steady advances by the Russians over the month. It seems the Russians have taken Mariupol. A slow advancement is still a slow advancement despite what people want to believe.

Dot
Dot
March 29, 2022 7:46 am

Will Smith is a cuck who let’s his wife fuck their son’s friends.

No man can keep it together with that sort of shame.

Being a cuck isn’t cool.

She never got over Tupac. Smith is competing with a dead guy. 25+ years of that. Most people couldn’t cope.

Plus professionally he put out a book and produced a series of a more realistic Prince of Bel Air.

(Then the persistent rumours he is gay).

Worst of all, those awful YouTube end of year videos.

calli
calli
March 29, 2022 7:49 am

Regardless of ongoing hostilities between Rock and Smith over perceived insults to the lady’s honour, the gentlemen should have taken it to the carpark.

All it does is reinforce a persistent stereotype – poor impulse control. And it legitimises it at the same time.

Both men are diminished in my view. It’s pathetic.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 7:51 am

You do know the Guardian article says Mariupol will fall to the Russians?

Dot
Dot
March 29, 2022 7:51 am

The lady has no honour and Rock is doing Smith a favour for pointing out her thottery.

Rock is just abiding by the Bro Code.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 7:52 am

Rock didn’t retaliate.
Seems his impulse control is okay.

Dot
Dot
March 29, 2022 7:52 am

Jada Pinkett Shakur Zincstein.

Petros
Petros
March 29, 2022 7:54 am

It really doesn’t look like Russia is ‘winning’.

And yet you wrote this, Rosie.

Cassie of Sydney
March 29, 2022 7:56 am

Black on black violence is all kosher.

Every day, in Democrat swamps like Chicago, Baltimore, NYC, DC, San Fran and LA, blacks are murdered by other blacks. Nobody gives a damn because it’s only white man who’s evil.

Oh and before Queen Liz apologises for Britain’s role in slavery, abolished by an act of parliament over two hundred years ago, perhaps the perpetually aggrieved Caribbean and American blacks along with that always offensive low IQ piece of human garbage, Whoopi Goldberg*, can also demand an apology from the descendants of the African tribal kings who sold black men, women and children to the European slavers.

* I note Goldberg is yet to change her surname, a name she culturally appropriated back in the 1980s. She’s a hypocrite.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 7:56 am

I just clicked through Major General Ryan’s account and his analysis was published by the ABC.

Rosie – Yeah, and the SMH. He seems to be building a post-retirement business as a go-to pundit, and moved with his family from Canberra to the Gold Coast last week having retired from running the ADF college. So of course he’s going to write for the lefty MSM. There isn’t anyone else in Australia who’ll pay, except Sky, and Sky would probably have him on anyway.

The trouble is the information available skews so heavily towards Ukrainian sources, because Russia doesn’t want to stir up their own people too much whereas the Ukrainians are in the begging business. So they have to keep a high profile to win the support of the arms making country populations. Notably there’s been a bit more stuff coming from the Russians in the last week – carefully selected footage like that PoW one that Cats discussed yesterday. More drone and strike footage too. I take it to mean they realize that Ukraine is winning the propaganda war and they have to counter that somehow.

Not much you can do about the one-sidedness of the info available, other that try to get professionals who are more technically aligned like Ryan and O’Brien. Even they will have a leaning towards Ukraine because the all the elites in the West are screeching in unison like a fruit-bat colony on the side of the Ukrainians. Makes it hard to pull out nuggets of data from the cacophany.

I look at many sites from strongly pro-Russian to strongly pro-Ukraine. These two guys are as close to centrist as I’ve seen. The other guy who has still been doing well is Trent Telenko: he’s pro-Ukraine but has a lot of good technical tactical stuff. Yesterday he did a thread on Russian military technology development which was interesting, and which explains a lot of what we’re seeing in the electronic warfare side.

It’s like everything in the MSM. You read it, sort through and cross check as best you can. Then a nugget might be true. But might not be either. Eventually after a while you get enough pieces to put a bit the jigsaw puzzle together to see what the picture could be. No different from R&D really, except in R&D the natural world doesn’t generate propaganda and lies like humans do.

calli
calli
March 29, 2022 7:57 am

The lady has no honour

Apologies for not using the /sarc typeface.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 8:01 am

Lol, you think taking Mariupol is proof that Russia is winning this war?

My takeaway from oh lookit Al jazeera map analysis is you don’t have a clue because other than putinfanbois no-one is claiming Russia is ‘winning’
Which is all I was saying.
We can circle back to Russia is winning (decisively) in a couple of weeks.

calli
calli
March 29, 2022 8:04 am

Let’s have a bit of Ricky being insulting.

Anyone spot the difference?

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 8:05 am

Thanks BoN.
Like I said I was just a) looking for opinions as to how objective the Guardian piece was and b) suggesting that only Putin fanatics could claim Russia was on the verge of a substantial victory.
Only thing I hope for is swift resolution via negotiation.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 29, 2022 8:05 am

I saw Chris Rock when he was in Sydney pre Obama getting elected in 2008.
Geez he gave it to Michelle Obama.
“Damn bitch gunna fuck the whole thing up”.
Very funny night.

Vicki
Vicki
March 29, 2022 8:05 am

Re the Ukrainian sources – we watched Al Jazeera this morning & it had a pretty fair coverage, unlike soo much you see in mainstream Oz TV & in the print media.

They reported the early aborted peace talks in Turkey & said they were to be reconvened with Zelensky willing to consider conceding territory to Russia & an agreement not to join NATO.

You don’t read that in the usual sources.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 29, 2022 8:08 am

Michael Lee is running a tight ship with the Palmer/McGowan circus.
He also ran a tight ship with the Elaine Stead/Joe Ashton (Fairfax, Nine) case.

By comparison the Ben Roberts-Smith case is as loose as a wizards sleeve.

Vicki
Vicki
March 29, 2022 8:11 am

BTW – all this talk of who is “winning” in the Ukraine depends on understanding exactly what Russia’s original intentions were.

And who can claim that in the West?

Dot
Dot
March 29, 2022 8:12 am

So Cannon Brooke’s father was a financial, legal and IT guru?

Most people spend a lifetime mastering one…plus many banks were bailed out in that time, those puff pieces scream knee padding like a custom skating kit made in Daylesford (“Dale’s Fjord”).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 8:12 am

It seems the Russians have taken Mariupol.

They certainly hadn’t as of lunchtime yesterday. I’ve not gotten to the war news yet this morning.

Yesterday there was a report that Zelenzky had told the defenders that they had permission to withdraw if they could, but the Azov guys said no they’d defend to the last. While that sounds melodramatic they’d know they’d get no fun if captured, so I thought it might be plausible. On the other hand Zelensy has to appear moderate and warm and fuzzy for the cameras, so telling his guys publicly to withdraw but privately to fight would be in character. Even the Australian generals in WW2 commonly told troops to fight to the death. It goes with the political species.

The French are iffy as they are quite Russophilic. That’s fine by me since the other maps tend to be Ukrainophilic. As I said, look at all of them and confirm from other sources when you can. There are a few sites that will use geolocation and Goolag Maps to identify where footage is on the ground. Also a nice source is NASA satellite fire maps, which pick up the locations of fires on the ground…most likely where fighting actually is, rather than where sites claim it is.

JC
JC
March 29, 2022 8:13 am

Brucie

The idea you, yes you, would be able to discern centrist/ unbiased is laughable . Let’s not forget how you told us you don’t speak to neighbours because you’ve assessed them as leftwing.

Not two days later you were trying to make hay by highlighting how some lefties don’t talk to people on the Right.
You buffoon.

miltonf
miltonf
March 29, 2022 8:13 am

I think the US has turned into a grotesque abomination.

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 8:17 am

No one will win in the Ukraine. It will be a festering forever. And outside agitators cheering the destruction.

Indolent
Indolent
March 29, 2022 8:20 am

8 Lessons From The Ron DeSantis School Of Dominating The Corrupt Media

Just outstanding. Nos. 4 and 6 particularly resonate. Lessons to be learnt, indeed.

calli
calli
March 29, 2022 8:23 am

4. Don’t Take the Bait to Fight Your Friends Harder than Your Enemies

Amen. A hard lesson to learn. We see it played out all the time.

Indolent
Indolent
March 29, 2022 8:23 am

I think the US has turned into a grotesque abomination.

I hate to say it, but it’s very hard to argue with this sentiment. The beacon of freedom has been turned into an evil cesspit. The scum has risen to the top.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 29, 2022 8:23 am

Ed Casesays:
March 28, 2022 at 10:33 pm
Did not get the Medal of Honour but the most awarded medals of any US soldier.

Rubbish.
They’ve pushed that line about any number of American soldiers.

Famous for criticising the conduct of the war whilst still serving.

Yeah, as if they’d let someone get away with that.
Unless he was a Spook and that was part of his cover story.

Good old Dickless Ed. If in doubt, spin about spooks, and add in flamers for good measure. Never any actual evidence, though. Just random assertions.

Read up those memoirs of Australian soldiers who served on the Kokoda Trail yet, Dickless?

Indolent
Indolent
March 29, 2022 8:26 am
flyingduk
flyingduk
March 29, 2022 8:29 am

23 year-old Romanian water polo player is dead… Sudden heart attack during game…

and the report says ‘chest pain’ before the sudden death, so they cant claim its an arrhythmic death due to undiagnosed congenital condition

still, I’m sure its nothing..

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 29, 2022 8:32 am

Go back, have a read of today’s Dilbert. Substitute Goose Moronson for the boss and Elbownium for Vaccines. Couldn’t be more fitting. Morrison is an idiot of the highest order.

sfw
sfw
March 29, 2022 8:33 am

“Kitching’s vacancy will be filled by Jana Stewart, a Muthi Muthi and Wamba Wamba woman and until recently the deputy secretary at the Victorian Department of Justice, who had previously been lined up to run in the safe seat of Pascoe Vale at the Victorian state election in November.”

https://www.pollbludger.net/2022/03/29/all-too-much-preselection-news/

calli
calli
March 29, 2022 8:36 am

a Muthi Muthi and Wamba Wamba woman

She’ll be no good at all.

She isn’t “proud”.

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 8:41 am

I’m not going to side with fruit loops just because they occasionally claim to believe the something I do. Populist jingoistic rhetoric has lead normally rational people to go along with the worst atrocities in the past.

bons
bons
March 29, 2022 8:42 am

Orright. Who stole me “most dangerous eva” rain bomb.
Sheesh, go to bed with the ABC forecasting disaster porn and you wake up to sunshine.
ABC!

Judge Dredd
Judge Dredd
March 29, 2022 8:48 am

If you want a more realistic analysis of the Ukrainian war I suggest you read The Saker:
http://thesaker.is/

You should realize that this is not a war as we know it. This is not a shock-and-awe, raze everything war that we are used to seeing from America. The Russians have clearly stated this is a “special operation” to clean out Nazis and secure the Donbass. They have no intention of taking over the whole of Ukraine. They also have been exceptionally careful not to cause civilian casualties (unlike the US and allies completely destroying towns and buildings), as they see the civilians as brothers.
Their tactics are more akin to those of old times – encircle the enemy, close them in a cauldron, siege warfare.
Remember that the Russians have complete air superiority over the entire Ukraine, and have completely destroyed the Ukrainian command and control structure. All the Ukraine armed forces can do now is guerrilla warfare, though the Russians have much experience with this in Chechnya.

sfw
sfw
March 29, 2022 8:49 am

It’s a modern day version of the Council of Nicaea, what to leave in and what to leave out.

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2022/03/the-scandals-of-the-dead-sea-scrolls/

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 8:49 am

They never stop, ever. Terminators.

Report: Scientists Seek to Make a ‘Self-Spreading’ Vaccine (27 Mar)

A new report from National Geographic indicates that scientists are now working on “self-spreading vaccines” that can jump from vaccinated to unvaccinated populations.

The article indicates that these “new vaccines or so-called recombinant viruses” are developed through a process whereby researchers “first identify a protein from the target microbe that serves as an antigen—a substance that triggers immune responses in vaccinated people or animals.”

Researchers then “select a virus to carry the vaccine and spread it.”

I used to wince whenever I saw a mad scientist on a cartoon or in a movie. Now I don’t.
Sigh. The hubris is strong with these guys.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 29, 2022 8:52 am

a Muthi Muthi and Wamba Wamba woman

She’ll be no good at all.

She isn’t “proud”.

I wonder what a non-proud Muthi Muthi and Wamba Wamba woman is like. Is she just a woman who happens to have a particular ancestry but otherwise just does her own thing?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 8:53 am

Another one.

And another.

Schoolboy dies after Year 7 pupil collapsed and air ambulance rushed to sports field (28 Mar)

Heart attack, at age 13.

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 8:55 am

Heart attack, at age 13.

Has it never happend before?

duncanm
duncanm
March 29, 2022 8:58 am

Tomsays:
March 29, 2022 at 4:13 am
Ben Garrison.

..and just in case we need any reminders on how the Democrats saw the 25th for both Reagan and Trump.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/01/how-reagans-mental-health-concerns-were-handled.html

Tom
Tom
March 29, 2022 8:59 am

Both men are diminished in my view. It’s pathetic.

Actors spend every minute of their professional lives pretending they’re someone else. They’re the dregs of society. Putting them on a pedestal is perverse and masochistic.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 8:59 am

Apparently not bespoke

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 29, 2022 9:00 am

A new report from National Geographic indicates that scientists are now working on “self-spreading vaccines” that can jump from vaccinated to unvaccinated populations.

It already exists. It’s called “Omicron”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 29, 2022 9:01 am

And the Oscar for Best Girly Slap at an Awards Ceremony goes to …

calli
calli
March 29, 2022 9:02 am

No one wants a fruit loop for a friend, bespoke. Especially a nasty one.

I find myself becoming more Treebeard-ish as I get older. Some aims and objectives might overlap, but taking sides where no one is exactly on my “side” is utilitarian at best, dangerous at worst.

Probably makes me first in line for the axe though. From all sides.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 29, 2022 9:02 am

Special Ed wants a down vote button? Only thing he could win. Look I got the most votes. Idjit.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 9:03 am

Has it never happend before?

Not for that poor kid. It’s well known that the boosters especially Moderna have a bigger incidence of myo and pericarditis in teenage boys. It’s about 7 times more than the first dose. Girls for some reason don’t have much difference between first dose and booster.

The problem is that there is no open reporting of such cause and effect for the obvious reason. That is actually undermining the government line as people increasingly are taking in stories like this. People aren’t stupid, they just get cautious and don’t say anything. But they think it.

Unfortunately the governments can’t walk this back at all without committing seppuku. They dare not fess up. So all that’s now going to happen is they’ll stop talking about it and hope people will forget.

calli
calli
March 29, 2022 9:05 am

A new report from National Geographic indicates that scientists are now working on “self-spreading vaccines” that can jump from vaccinated to unvaccinated populations.

Can’t foresee anything going wrong with this one.

No. Wait…

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 29, 2022 9:08 am

The Victoriastan justice system has really been kicking some goals. A great appointment in the Liar tradition.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 29, 2022 9:10 am

Joe Biden not walking anything back. He can’t find the way.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 9:11 am
Rabz
March 29, 2022 9:14 am

Albansleazey is one of the deepest political thinkers to have strode this planet in human history – to paraphrase an audio grab just on the 9:00am news:

“It the gliberals want to give people some free money, well, we’ll point out that it’s only because of the (upcoming) election.” *

As if anyone with a functioning brain wouldn’t have been able to figure that out for themselves – although to be fair, that excludes every labore and greenfilth voter, for starters.

*A very similar statement (in its sheer patronising idiocy) to Goose Morristeen’s “We’ve never supported vaccine mandates, except when we have”.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 29, 2022 9:16 am

Report: Scientists Seek to Make a ‘Self-Spreading’ Vaccine

Anyone else want to join a mob with pitchforks, torches and boiled rope aimed at doing over these guys?

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 9:17 am

BoN
The justifiable frustration in the beginning was the perception all deaths was attributed to Covid has flipped to all deaths regardless of other factors be being attributed to the Vax.

I have to be frank. You are not helping.

Rabz
March 29, 2022 9:17 am

Joe Biden not walking anything back. He can’t find the way.

Also heard him on the news. His condition appears to have worsened – the sad syphilitic geriatric imbecile now sounds barely conscious.

Elder abuse, indeed.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 29, 2022 9:17 am

It already exists. It’s called “Omicron”.

You may well be correct. Funny how it is a branch off a much earlier variant than delta.

calli
calli
March 29, 2022 9:18 am

Ahahaha! Cassie! They read your comment!

Diogenes
Diogenes
March 29, 2022 9:20 am

Yep and it’s not relativism it’s resistance to being a puppet.

Starkey’s new video an interesting take on foreign affairs. Starkey in previous videos has been very pro Ukraine, but this is an interesting take on the Lavrov Doctrine.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FofS0aNQSnE

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 29, 2022 9:22 am

I have to be frank. You are not helping.

I thought BoN’s comment at 9:03am was very reasonable. What is your problem?
We are being denied information by our governments. Why wouldn’t any one be suspicious.

OK lets have a survey: How many of you during your entire time at school and university (if applicable) knew of any boys in your school having heart attacks?

Roger
Roger
March 29, 2022 9:22 am

Mid-Week in Pictures: Oscars Suddenly Relevant Edition | Power Line

Seems there’s a back story to that slap:

Will Smith used Chris Rock as a stand-in as he vented his rage at being openly cuckolded.

Hollyweird living down to its standards again.

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 9:25 am

calli

It never and never will be an attack from me just disagreement.

rickw
rickw
March 29, 2022 9:25 am

Heart attack, at age 13

Old school Justice is coming.

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 9:28 am

No boys died of (as far I can remember) hepatitas, Eyrie.

Rabz
March 29, 2022 9:31 am

Hollyweird living down to its standards again

Bitchfighting Hollyweirdos. There needs to be a lot more of it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 9:31 am

I have to be frank.

Hi Frank! So far everything I’ve said about Covid and the mRNA vaccines has proven to be spot on going back to Feb 2020. I wish I wasn’t. See the transcript with Steyn yesterday that a Cat put up. Not my business what people want to believe.

Roger
Roger
March 29, 2022 9:32 am

It’s a modern day version of the Council of Nicaea, what to leave in and what to leave out.

The Dead Sea Scrolls affair is one thing, but can you expand on that in regard to Nicaea?

Frank
Frank
March 29, 2022 9:33 am

a Muthi Muthi and Wamba Wamba woman

Following a deep forensic analysis of the text one is drawn inexorably to the conclusion, people are just making shit up.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 29, 2022 9:34 am

In perilous times, would we fight or flee?Greg Sheridan

11:00PM March 28, 2022
269 Comments

A slim majority of Australians, if faced with a situation similar to that faced by Ukrainians, would not stay and fight for their country but would seek to flee overseas, according to a fascinating poll conducted by Compass Polling.

It is a perplexing snapshot of the public outlook after we have watched the appalling and transfixing and inspiring Ukrainian war, and the magnificent determination of Ukrainians that their nation will not perish from the face of the earth, that the Russian dictatorship will neither swallow up nor destroy them.

Foreign affairs polling is often limited by the fact most of the time most people don’t think about foreign issues. But surely Ukraine now is prominent in the Australian mind. And, of course, what we think now might be only a very rough guide to how many of us would actually behave in a crisis.

The polling was commissioned by former deputy prime minister John Anderson, who runs an absorbing website that tries to address these and other big issues.

Nonetheless, having made all the relevant allowances, the polling results, on their face, are a bit disconcerting. People were asked: what would you do if you were in the same position as the Ukrainians now? Some 53 per cent said they would leave the country, while 47 per cent said they would stay and fight. Most Coalition voters would stay and fight – 56 per cent to 44. Most Labor voters would flee, in an exact reverse of the figures: 56 per cent to 44. A much bigger majority of Greens voters, 61 per cent, would flee.

Men say they would stay and fight, in much larger numbers than women. Women may well be thinking of the need to protect children and parents. Older folks, however, are much more likely to stay and fight than younger people. Under the age of 35, adult men are split almost 50-50 in fight versus flee. But in the 35 to 54 age group, 64 per cent of men say they would stay and fight, and for men over 55 this rises to 68 per cent.

Women are more likely to stay and fight the older they are. Under 35, 76 per cent of adult women say they would leave. Among the 35 to 54 age group for women, 68 per cent say they would leave, and for over-55s women this falls to 59 per cent.

Respondents were offered only two choices – stay and fight versus flee the country. It may be that many women would choose an option not given, stay and help.

So, even making all the allowances for methodological ambiguity and the rest, the result is a little unhappy. When Quinnipiac University asked Americans the same question, a strong majority, 55 per cent, said they would stay and fight. Both Republicans and Democrats held this view, though Republicans held it more strongly.

Anderson’s poll asked another intriguing question. In light of the increased global tensions, should Australia expand its (army) school cadet corps? A heartening 65 per cent said yes, and only 35 per cent said no. Which leads me to ask this question – why hasn’t the Morrison government been pursuing initiatives like this all of its time in office?

Both Coalition and Labor voters by strong majorities support expanding cadet corps. Only Greens voters register a majority against school cadets.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 29, 2022 9:35 am

The role of your life – pretending to be a straight male in Hollyweird.

johanna
johanna
March 29, 2022 9:37 am

Knock on effects from the Ukraine war in the Middle East – very serious stuff:

In Lebanon, which has been in the throes of economic collapse for the past two years, panic has set in among a population worn down by shortages of electricity, medicine and gasoline.

The country’s main grain silos were destroyed by a massive explosion at a Beirut port in 2020. Now, with just six weeks of wheat reserves, many fear even darker days ahead. Several large supermarkets were out of flour and corn oil this week.

“Whatever is put on shelves is being bought,” said Hani Bohsali, head of the food importers syndicate. He said 60% of the cooking oil consumed in Lebanon comes from Ukraine and the rest comes mostly from Russia.

“This is not a small problem,” he said. Bohsali noted that a search is underway for alternative places from which to import needed products, but he said other countries have either banned food exports or significantly raised prices.

Meanwhile, 5 litres (1 gallon) of cooking oil in Lebanon now costs around the same as the monthly minimum wage, which is still fixed at 675,000 Lebanese pounds, or $29, despite the currency having lost around 90% of its value since October 2019.

and

In Syria, where more than 11 years of brutal war has left more than 90% of the country’s population living in poverty, products such as cooking oil – when they can be found – have doubled in price in the month since the war began in Ukraine. On a recent day at one government cooperative in the capital of Damascus, shelves were almost empty except for sugar and napkins.

Egypt, the world’s top importer of wheat, is among the most vulnerable. Economic pressures, including rising inflation, are mounting in the country, where about a third of the population of more than 103 million lives below the poverty line, according to official figures.

An Associated Press journalist who toured markets in three different middle-class neighbourhoods in Cairo earlier this month found that the price of food staples such as bread – items that Egyptians refer to as “eish,” or life – have increased by up to 50%. Inflation is likely to swell further due to the upcoming Muslim holy month of Ramadan, typically a time of increased demand.

Kinda puts our problems in perspective.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 29, 2022 9:37 am

I frequently read the German press. Unsurprisingly Ukraine is a front and centre issue: just as de-nazification is a red hot issue for Russians because of their WW2 experience, so Russians rolling westward is a big deal in Deutschland.

Defence is a difficult issue in Germany and mainstream reporting on military issues is usually fairly muted. Over the past month however, the left/centre-left German Government has been firmly on the front foot on defence:

• Military equipment transfers to Ukraine.

• Increased contributions to NATO, and significantly increased spending on the Heer.

• Purchasing 30 F35’s so that the Luftwaffe can replace its Tornados and more reliably drop the nukes the US apparently keeps at Büchel airbase for NATO use.

• Planning a ‘water tight’ national ‘missile shield’ based on the Israeli Arrow missile defence system – apparently the ‘best and most tested option’.

Olaf Scholz: “We must all prepare ourselves for the fact that we have a neighbor presently ready to use force to assert its interests.”

The knee jerk political reaction to an issue that’s been staring them in the face is no particular surprise – German politics is no different to ours.

The interesting thing is the limited public political response from die Grünen and the usual mob of far left anti-war activists – who would normally be in violent hysterics over this sort of stuff.

Instead we see German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock – herself a Green – explaining the government’s decisions to arm Ukraine against Russia.

Not sure if boosting Germany’s war fighting capabilities and sidelining pacifism was one of Putin’s objectives – perhaps he’s playing 5D chess.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 29, 2022 9:38 am

AnDy
46 minutes ago
Brave Sir Adam ran away,
Bravely ran away away,
When danger reared it’s ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled,
Yes, brave Sir Adam turned about,
And gallantly he chickened out.
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Sir Adam !

duncanm
duncanm
March 29, 2022 9:41 am

Jada wears the pants in that relationship. Will Smith’s anger was at his own insecurities.

duncanm
duncanm
March 29, 2022 9:42 am

A new report from National Geographic indicates that scientists are now working on “self-spreading vaccines”

they have been for years – this is old news.

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 9:43 am

Not my business what people want to believe.

Sure BoN “And another.” wasn’t a nudge.

calli
calli
March 29, 2022 9:44 am

Bespoke, I never imagined an “attack”. :D. Just an expansion on “side taking”. If only life was that simple.

Also, I get the reservations about every death (especially the young) being attributed to the vaxx and how it mirrors the “every death was from Covid” panic narrative early in the piece. The stupid* eclipses the reality.

There is a definite link becoming apparent, particularly for fit young men. Not every single one, but a few too many for comfort. It’s worrying me for sure, and I can’t discount it personally – my rugby playing grandsons for instance.

* William Hurt, druggie drummer, etc.

Roger
Roger
March 29, 2022 9:46 am

Which leads me to ask this question – why hasn’t the Morrison government been pursuing initiatives like this all of its time in office?

Because they are ineffectual temporisers with no vision extending beyond the next election.

Frank
Frank
March 29, 2022 9:46 am

self-spreading vaccines

Otherwise known as contagious pathogens, disease really.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 29, 2022 9:47 am

Joe Polanski
1 hour ago
As a sixth generation Australian, the welcome to country ceremonies have made it clear that this is not my country so why would I stay and fight for a foreign land?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 29, 2022 9:48 am

There’s one issue I care about more passionately than the Will Smith/Chris Rock shock horror imbroglio.

Will the Wiggles survive becoming too woke to entertain small children?

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 9:48 am

Cheers calli.

Frank
Frank
March 29, 2022 9:50 am

Will the Wiggles survive becoming too woke to entertain small children?

They have an adults only show on tour at the moment. They can transition seamlessly into burlesque with primary colours to keep the dollars rolling in.

Roger
Roger
March 29, 2022 9:50 am

A much bigger majority of Greens voters, 61 per cent, would flee.

Green and yellow.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 9:51 am

Over the past month however, the left/centre-left German Government has been firmly on the front foot on defence:

• Military equipment transfers to Ukraine.

Mouldly East German SAMs and 5000 steel helmets…

The lefty German government actually quite likes Russia for historical reasons, but is wedged by the voters who detest the Russians for some reason or other. So the government has been doing the least it can do they can get away with on the equipment front, while defending their use of Russian gas and oil. It’s been fun to watch them squirm.

There’s been plenty of virtue signalling though.

Free Speech Clampdown: German States Criminalise ‘Z’ Symbol Used by Russia Supporters (28 Mar)

Devastating! Putin will be shivering in his bunker.

sfw
sfw
March 29, 2022 9:55 am

Roger – Nicaea was a bunch of people many pushing for different things to be left in and for other things to be left out, hundreds of years after the events. One faction eventually formed and dominated and managed to get their way and much was left out. Just like what is happening with all these old texts, some just get disappeared when it suits those who control the narrative.

How anyone can take any religious text as truth is beyond me.

Rabz
March 29, 2022 9:58 am

would not stay and fight for their country but would seek to flee overseas

Have these idiots ever looked at a map – what are they going to do, swim to PNG or NZ?

Dot
Dot
March 29, 2022 9:59 am

They have no intention of taking over the whole of Ukraine. They also have been exceptionally careful not to cause civilian casualties (unlike the US and allies completely destroying towns and buildings), as they see the civilians as brothers.

Ummm…

So how many PGMs have the Americans used since the end of the Vietman War and how many towns have they completely destroyed???

shatterzzz
March 29, 2022 10:02 am

In perilous times, would we fight or flee?Greg Sheridan

Problem with articles like this is they are polled on folk living in the selected postcodes not on/at all folk born here .. when you have a high percentage of the population who’s loyalties tend to favour and are often, publically, demonstrated to support their birth countries why would you, realistically, expect them to “stay & fight” .. like most polls target the demograph and you get your required result ..!

Roger
Roger
March 29, 2022 10:03 am

sfw, as I mentioned before, that’s not a fair characterisation what happened at Nicaea.

Councils are usually only called to deal with a heresy, the heresy at the time being Arianism.

The definition of heresy literally is “a thing chosen”, rather than receiving the doctrine handed down.

Nicaea simply reaffirmed the doctrine handed down regarding Christ, which was being denied by Arius.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 29, 2022 10:05 am

Before the fun begins, a blast from the past,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i8hZ0wxSUV0

Dot
Dot
March 29, 2022 10:06 am

How anyone can take any religious text as truth is beyond me.

There is something to religion.

Most religions have a triune god. Either that is divinely revealed or it is a cultural trope to do with how we see ourselves.
Most of the time, it is simply traditionalist advice that works from empirical observation.
There is often a redemption cycle.
Flawed humans can either improve themselves, seek god or find their proper purpose.
Religious people are happier.
Religion doesn’t stop science, see Lamaitre, Mendel, Copernicus (all Catholic priests or Jesuit trained canon).
Google their names – their work is seminal.

That’s why it is taken seriously.

I have read some of the missing gospels, they’re obvious fakes.

What I do find amusing is people who reject the deuterocanonical work, referring to Enoch I and II etc.

shatterzzz
March 29, 2022 10:06 am

Heart attack, at age 13

I’m 74 now but remember going to school with a lad who died of a heart attack at 14 ..!

johanna
johanna
March 29, 2022 10:09 am

From Adam’s Cat:

mh says:
March 29, 2022 at 9:06 am

Sam Morril
@sammorril
Jussie Smollett is saying Will Smith hit him too

🙂

calli
calli
March 29, 2022 10:09 am

Will the Wiggles survive becoming too woke to entertain small children?

Rhinestone Wiggle will be the give-away.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 29, 2022 10:09 am

Will Josh bring the LOLs? Will Josh even have a job in a month?

Roger
Roger
March 29, 2022 10:10 am

They have no intention of taking over the whole of Ukraine.

They could never have held the whole of Ukraine, but clearly they were intending to take Kiev, to which Putin attaches great symbolic value as the birthplace of Rus, and the territory to the east of the Dnieper across to the Donbas. Stategically, that would also have provided the buffer he desires against NATO.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 29, 2022 10:12 am

Rhinestone Wiggle will be the give-away.

That reminds me, who does have the Q&A arseless chaps?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 10:12 am

Sure BoN “And another.” wasn’t a nudge.

Bespoke – Only an 80% chance of being correct. Actually that’s probably higher now we’re into boostering, since as I said the boosters multiply the risk of myo/peri significantly. Moderna is also worse than Pfizer, possibly because the dosage is higher.

5-fold increase in sudden cardiac deaths of FIFA players in 2021 (16 Nov)

It’s gotten so bad that Orange County schools are requiring all school athletes to get an ECG before playing.

‘What has changed?’ New ECG screening requirement initiated for student athletes in Orange County, Fla. (7 Mar)

Going to be even harder to get kids to do sport now if they read on social media (which they will) that they might have heart attacks.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 10:14 am

If you believe in God, there is no great leap to believing the council at Nicea was guided by the holy spirit.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 29, 2022 10:15 am

Trevor Walley: Public Service Appeal Board finds DBCA ‘unlawfully’ fired Aboriginal man for test refusal
Hannah CrossSound Telegraph
Mon, 28 March 2022 8:00PM

An Aboriginal man sacked from his State Government job after fearing for his physical and spiritual wellbeing at a neurological exam to prove his fitness for work has had his case upheld as “unlawful” and “unreasonable” by the Public Service Appeal Board.

Trevor Walley, a Rockingham man who worked for the Department of Biodiversity, Conservation and Attractions for more than four decades, was dismissed from his role as an eco education officer after he did not sign a consent form at a medical appointment.

A previous post-traumatic stress disorder diagnosis in 2000 incurred during his employment saw Mr Walley claim workers’ compensation and resulted in intermittent periods of incapacity at his job.

Since 2000, Mr Walley had undertaken other fitness for work assessments and only been certified unfit for about two-and-a-half years in total.

After attending an assessment by psychiatrist Lawrence Terace in March 2019, the Department told Mr Walley he was required to attend a further neurological assessment due to Dr Terace’s report.

But the Department refused to give Mr Walley a copy of his report, saying doing so would “compromise the Department’s duty of care”.

The Department organised an appointment with consultant neurologist Keith Grainger for July 2019 but Mr Walley did not attend.

He attended another appointment in August 2019 and was asked to sign a consent form.

Hesitant to sign, he emailed a copy to his union representative.

Dr Grainger explained the tests he would undertake, including shining light in his eyes, a brain scan and attaching electrical wires to pass electrical currents through his body.

Mr Walley, a Noongar man, said he was concerned about the effect the procedures might have on his spiritual totem and maintains Dr Grainger did not know enough about his medical history to safely conduct the tests.

“When they shine torches in your eye, that’s where your totem sits . . . shining lights on it and interfering with that is spiritually dangerous, (especially) without my consent,” Mr Walley said.

“And putting electricity in your arms upsets the rhythm of your dance, and how much are electricity are they going to put through you?”

Mr Walley’s union representative contacted him and discouraged him from signing the consent form.

Seriously?

sfw
sfw
March 29, 2022 10:16 am

Dot, you’ve summed it up beautifully. Well said.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 29, 2022 10:16 am

Will the Wiggles survive becoming too woke to entertain small children?

The woke want your children. They want them sacrificed to their Moloch. They are little tokens through which we will purchase a glorious future where everything is a matter of politics – so much so that there will not even be enough space on the wrapping of a carob bar to mention how many grams it is. But the breakdown of races, genders, privileges, alliances etc that went into its production will all be there for careful scrutiny and judgement.

Zipster
Zipster
March 29, 2022 10:18 am
rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 10:18 am

Oh it might all be people paying more attention because of bias.
Have heart attack rates in these demographics increased, or not.

15, no vaccine, no reason

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 29, 2022 10:18 am

How anyone can take any religious text as truth is beyond me.

You were griping about this the other day.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 29, 2022 10:20 am

Mouldly East German SAMs and 5000 steel helmets…

Could be black powder muskets and sabres. The political significance would be exactly the same.

The German rubicon that’s been crossed is transferring anything military into a war zone involving Russia.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 10:21 am

Incidentally one of my mother’s friends lost a thirteen year old granddaughter a couple of years ago.
Perfectly healthy, one morning she just didn’t wake up.
sudden unexplained death in childhood

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 10:24 am

They have no intention of taking over the whole of Ukraine.

They could never have held the whole of Ukraine

Widely reported that the Russians thought they would be welcomed by the people with open arms. So yes they DID think they could held the whole of Ukraine. Unfortunately for the Russians it seems they had started believing their own propaganda.

There was one story that during the first days of the invasion Viktor Yanukovych had moved to Minsk in advance of forming a new government in Kiev. That’s the guy who the CIA somehow caused to flee the country from millions of orange wearing people. Weird how the CIA are so effective at such things.

shatterzzz
March 29, 2022 10:25 am

“When they shine torches in your eye, that’s where your totem sits . . . shining lights on it and interfering with that is spiritually dangerous, (especially) without my consent,” Mr Walley said.
“And putting electricity in your arms upsets the rhythm of your dance, and how much are electricity are they going to put through you?”

Methinx, an appointment with Nurse Ratchett would have been more appropriate than an visit with a neurologist .. for both Mr. Walley & the member(s) of the PS Appeals Board who arrived at the re-instatement decision .. LOL!

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
March 29, 2022 10:28 am

How is that vaccine going for you now?? Any side effects??
read the whole thing at substack.

Subscribe now

When is mRNA not really mRNA?
What is pseudouridine, why is it being injected into you, and why should you care.

Robert W Malone MD, MS
Mar 28

Comment

Conculsion

Based on this information, it appears to me that the extensive random incorporation of pseudouridine into the synthetic mRNA-like molecules used for the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna SARS-CoV-2 vaccines may well account for much or all of the observed immunosuppression, DNA virus reactivation, and remarkable persistence of the synthetic “mRNA” molecules observed in lymph node biopsy tissues by Martinez et al. Many of these adverse effects were reported by Kariko, Weissman et al in their 2008 paper “Incorporation of pseudouridine into mRNA yields superior nonimmunogenic vector with increased translational capacity and biological stability” and could have been anticipated by regulatory and toxicology professionals if they had bothered to consider these findings prior to allowing emergency use authorization and widespread (global) deployment of what is truly an immature and previously untested technology. Therefore, neither the FDA, NIH, CDC, nor BioNTech (which employs Dr. Kariko as a Vice President) nor Moderna can claim true ignorance. To my eyes, what we have seen is more appropriately classified as “willful ignorance”.

In conclusion, based on these data it is my opinion that the random and uncontrolled insertion of pseudouridine into the manufactured “mRNA”-like molecules administered to so many of us creates a population of polymers which may resemble natural mRNA, but which have a variety of properties which distinguish them in a variety of aspects which are clinically relevant. These characteristics and activities may account for many of the unusual effects, unusual stability, and striking adverse events associated with this new class of vaccines. These molecules are not natural mRNA, and they do not behave like natural mRNA.

The question that most troubles and perplexes me at this point is why the biological consequences of these modifications and associated clinical adverse effects were not thoroughly investigated before widespread administration of random pseudouridine-incorporating “mRNA”-like molecules to a global population. Biology, and particularly molecular biology, is highly complex and matrix-interrelated. Change one thing over here, and it is really hard to predict what might happen over there. That is why one must do rigorously controlled non-clinical and clinical research. Once again, it appears to me that the hubris of “elite” high status scientists, physicians and governmental “public health” bureaucrats has overcome common sense, well established regulatory norms have been disregarded, and patients have unnecessarily suffered as a consequence.

When will we ever learn.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 10:30 am

The German rubicon that’s been crossed is transferring anything military into a war zone involving Russia.

Faustus – The reason for sending the mould-affected SAMs and the steel helmets was so they could say to Putin “we were forced to do something so we did the least we could get away with, meanwhile here’s payment of your most recent gas bill”.

Actually they sent the helmets first, to widespread derision, then political pressure forced them to do something more real. Hence the SAMs. Not many of them were usable after being poorly stored for 35 years. But as you say it was never about actual support, it was about perception management.

I like Orban’s style better. He’s at least up front and honest about his position.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 29, 2022 10:34 am

Just like what is happening with all these old texts, some just get disappeared when it suits those who control the narrative.

That’s certainly not what happened at Nicaea.
There was a strong push to exclude Revelation from the canon on the grounds that the critics didn’t see any substantial pastoral or theological benefit in including it, and predicted that it was all too likely to be used by weirdos to push aberrant gibberish. (It has to be said that the prediction has been borne out totally.)
The critique was generally accepted. However it was found on the facts that its provenance was clear and that St John the Evangelist had clearly wanted it circulated widely, so it was decided that the Council shouldn’t attempt to second guess an Apostle, and therefore despite the misgivings it was included.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 29, 2022 10:36 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
March 29, 2022 at 10:15 am

Wonder if they’d accept that as a get-out from the vaxx if there was a vaxx mandate for that particular job.

Roger
Roger
March 29, 2022 10:37 am

Widely reported that the Russians thought they would be welcomed by the people with open arms. So yes they DID think they could held the whole of Ukraine.

If they did – and I doubt it -that would be the height of hubris.

sfw
sfw
March 29, 2022 10:40 am

Mother Lode, griping is ok, isn’t it? I just went back to it because of the Quadrant article on the Dead Sea Scrolls. You can always do what I do whenever Rex, JC and the rest go slightly mad and attack each other in a strange, unpleasant abuse feast, scroll down.

Zipster
Zipster
March 29, 2022 10:41 am

We can circle back to Russia is winning (decisively) in a couple of weeks.

why does rosie sound like psaki?

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 10:47 am

I look at it this way BoN.

The world has a population of over six billion (probably well over).
This site and others are a funnel for all the anti vax news. Reinforced by the hostility of a minority if someone goes against that narrative.
Not Dovers fault ,it is what it is and unavoidable Human nature.

So the factors that created the original panic i.e. people unable to discern local numbers with global populations. Is also at play when it come to the Vax.

All of my family and friends who have had the Vax have only gotten mild side effects. This is only an anecdote and does not disprove concerns.

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 10:53 am

Dot, you’ve summed it up beautifully. Well said.

Suck up!

rickw
rickw
March 29, 2022 10:54 am

would not stay and fight for their country but would seek to flee overseas

Q: What are we fighting with?
A: Nothing, we confiscated most of your firearms and melted down the war emergency reserves.

Q: What are we fighting for?
A: Nothing, we took away pretty much all your freedom, Liberty and wealth.

Q: Do you blame me for choosing to flee overseas instead of standing and fighting?
A: Errr….. upon reflection, not really.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 29, 2022 10:57 am

All of my family and friends who have had the Vax have only gotten mild side effects

For now.

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 29, 2022 10:59 am

So how many PGMs have the Americans used since the end of the Vietman War and how many towns have they completely destroyed?

Browsing the USAF’s 2019 procurement requests, they still buy metric shit tons of the now rebadged cheap and cheerful 2000lb Mk84.
Strapping a Paveway kit on one doesn’t make it less neighbourhood flattening.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 11:03 am

Because it amuses, zippy.

areff
areff
March 29, 2022 11:05 am

What a peculiar place is Victoria. Jana Stewart, who will take Kitching’s place, last contested an election as the Labor candidate for Kooyong in 2019. She didn’t win, obviously, so Andrews parachutes her into a plum public service job to bide her time on the taxpayer teat. Now public servants are supposed to be apolitical, but not in Victoria, where everything from the police to the courts to council contracts (I Cook Food) are nakedly and brazenly partisan.

Oh, and Calli, don’t fret for Ms Stewart. She is as ‘proud’ as proud can be.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 11:05 am

And as I explained last time I binged on Bosch (which is pre psaki) and the characters said it all the time.
Another one was ‘the question answers itself’
Btw, still waiting for the ‘Catholic Education Office class action’ to explode into the msm.

bons
bons
March 29, 2022 11:05 am

Some commentators are suggesting that Smith needs some time away from Hollywood spivs in order to sort himself out.
Smith IS an A List Hollywood Spiv. His arrogant actions at the narcissist fest were entirely in character.
A number of years ago the egomaniac was filming in a surburban street in NY. The arrogant prick parked his double story trailer at the kerb and had his security thugs prevent locals from using the sidewalk.
One fellow was roughed up and called the police. No response, but the New York Post had fun.

Morsie
Morsie
March 29, 2022 11:07 am

Monique Ryan’s organization is doing a full court press in Kooyong .Two volunteers at the door Monday morning, today 5 cyclists going up our street towing a sign.
All wearing the gear.
I didn’t engage with the volunteers, just said I didn’t approve of fake independents and astroturf candidates.
Some fightback, we got a leaflet pointing out she was an ALP member for years and I noticed that one of the signs had a counter sticker on it asking which alternative applied out of about 5 including Marxist or useful idiot.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 11:07 am

All of my family and friends who have had the Vax have only gotten mild side effects.

Likewise. Some moderate side effects but nothing permanent. Other Cats haven’t been so lucky, if you have been paying attention. On the other hand it is pointless to keep boostering yourself to protect against a virus which is roughly on a par with the common cold, and substantially less dangerous than the flu.

Because of the mode of operation of the vaccines (excepting Novavax of the Australian suite of available choices) you are risking autoimmune responses and clotting issues with every shot. The chance of permanent side effects is fairly low, seemingly between 5-10% on the data I extrapolate (getting data on this is tough). But even 1-2% would be much higher than the official data suggests, and who’d take a booster if they thought they’d have 1% chance of permanently harming their health?

I never said I am against Covid vaccines, only that I am against mRNA vaccines given their mechanism of action. I said this from around March or April 2020. I was exactly right about that. I always said that Covaxin and possibly Novavax were to be preferred since the former is a conventional killed-virus vaccine and the latter is not a mRNA vaccine. However I have seen no data on Novavax side effects, and I doubt that data will now be released given the authorities are now totally paranoid, and that the number who’ve received it is small.

My caveat is that the spike protein itself seems to deactivate certain T-cells. Which could mean problems with both Covaxin and Novavax, which both use the original Alpha spike. The Omicron spike is different and seems less of an issue with T-cells. That is only a hypothesis so far since I haven’t seen data for or against.

The use of mRNA is valid if you have a really nasty pathogen. But that in not true of Omicron and not true of Alpha and Delta for anyone under the age of about 65. Certainly unjustifiable for kids who are not vulnerable to Covid at all.

Jorge
Jorge
March 29, 2022 11:07 am

Accounts of Nicaea are always tendentious.
The history that was filtered by university departments replayed Nicaea as a Labor Party conference. Everything was seen in those terms by these true believers.

Real believers knew differently.

rosie
rosie
March 29, 2022 11:08 am

Some still barracking hard for the ADE, aids etc

Any moment now…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 29, 2022 11:11 am

Mother Lode, griping is ok, isn’t it?

No, I was really just curious why it was coming back up. Particularly as the characterisation of the Council had already been discussed extensively in response to the original asseveration.

Roger
Roger
March 29, 2022 11:11 am

Just like what is happening with all these old texts, some just get disappeared when it suits those who control the narrative.

Yes, there was some sifting of the texts circulating in the early centuries as the early church coalesced and had to determine the authenticity of writings that had previously only been known to local communities of Christians. But the exclusion of some texts from the canon was not arbitrary and based on powers controlling a narrative. There was a very clear criterion for authenticity, as Timothy has mentioned, and that was apostolic authorship or imprimatur.

Struth
March 29, 2022 11:13 am

Good Moaning.
Let us pray.
Let us pray for those who can’t comprehend that Christ can be in people’s hearts even when church attendance is a dangerous activity.
Let us pray for those with mental conditions that cause them to deny the bleeding obvious and to also block out and forget reality.
For ’twas at least a few years ago on the old blog that I first told of curry munching crap holes being cut in sleeper cab floors.
I was at Kenworths in Adelaide speaking to the actually mechanics that had found the disgusting mess.
Poor Sancho Smullet needs a prayer said about him as well, because he has either forgotten this, or is lying about it.
He has problems and deserves your prayers for he has confessed to fabricating complete stories.
He cries for your help, publicly admitting he is a liar.
Some of you, who have received your good Nazi passes, and are flashing them about in this apartheid system in NAZI Australia, may be unfamiliar with the ways of the world, but if you can flash your triple jabbed good Nazi tick at the border guards at Border Village, head on down through the basement , up Madura pass and head on into cocklebiddy Roadhouse, do so.
I’m not allowed in WA, but that’s another story to be completely forgotten it seems.
It was and most likely still is, the preferred roadhouse for the curry munching wet farters of transport, and other truckies leave them to Cocklebiddy, and don’t stop there.
Go and check out the toilets for a reason why.
So let us pray for the willfully ignorant.
Those that will get themselves jabbed with a poison (which will kill them) based on no evidence of a disease it is meant to vaccinated them from, while now dismissing the reports coming in from British government and Christian news services etc, as conspiracy theory pushing propaganda outlets.
We are at the stage now where we must pray for anyone still dismissing anything without argument as a conspiracy theory because they don’t want to hear it, as somebody that needs praying for.
They are lost.
When those people we pray for gather, such as on blogs like this, their insanity multiplies to the point that they’ll be consumed by a foreign little war because the government told them to be.
And because they want to be.
It’s sad.
Let us pray.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 29, 2022 11:13 am

Methinx, an appointment with Nurse Ratchett would have been more appropriate than an visit with a neurologist .. for both Mr. Walley & the member(s) of the PS Appeals Board who arrived at the re-instatement decision

It was one of the Walley clan, who, together with Ernie Dingo, invented the “Welcome to Country’ ceremony…..

Roger
Roger
March 29, 2022 11:16 am

Widely reported that the Russians thought they would be welcomed by the people with open arms. So yes they DID think they could held the whole of Ukraine.

In which case the division of the FSB charged with keeping tabs on Russia’s former CIS near neighbours really screwed up.

When the dust settles, it will be interesting to see which heads roll in Moscow.

areff
areff
March 29, 2022 11:16 am

I have seen no data on Novavax side effects

Not a trace of anything adverse after first Nova jab. Second due on April 8.

After that I can get on a plane and piss off. Can’t wait.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 29, 2022 11:19 am

In which case the division of the FSB charged with keeping tabs on Russia’s former CIS near neighbours really screwed up.

As the inheritors of the KGB, I doubt that they are that incompetent.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 29, 2022 11:22 am

After that I can get on a plane and piss off. Can’t wait.

Where are you going to go? Looking around, the rest of the world seems a complete shambles. Certainly the English speaking parts.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 29, 2022 11:22 am

A much bigger majority of Greens voters, 61 per cent, would flee.

Green and yellow.

Can we have NZ declare war on us just so the useless F ing Greens F off. Cant be a bad thing.

bespoke
bespoke
March 29, 2022 11:24 am

What is the limit of mocking your religion? If at all?

No I’m not referring to sfw.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 29, 2022 11:26 am

Dover – The RGS would have designed the campaign totally differently if they thought the Ukrainians would react like they did. The coup de main strategy was like the Germans taking over Vichy. You move in quickly from all directions and grab the apparatus of government and bureaucracy.

For a conventional conflict at 190,000 guys the odds for Russia weren’t even 1:1 on the headline numbers of what Ukraine could field. Let alone 3:1. And the Ukrainians had interior lines, which any officer will have learned the value of very early in their training. Even the choice of season and weather was wrong.

Yep, they thought they’d be welcomed by the people and the Ukrainian Army wouldn’t fight, except for a few hard cases. Wrong call. Not the first time, since both the Russo-Japanese War and the Winter War were similar misjudgements.

Unfortunately this mistake will probably prevent a common sense peace deal with the Ukrainian and Russian-ethnic areas partitioning and going separate ways. The Ukrainian people are now spitting chips, which is why Zelensky says the deals have to be subject to a referendum. He knows he can’t enforce a deal without one because he’d get Oranged immediately. And the referendum answer will be “no”. It’s sad. I don’t know what is going to happen, but I’m not seeing anything remotely optimistic for either side. It’s a bloody mess.

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  1. Good rant from the Rev: Glastonbury baby, left wing hypocrite rant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqkzRfCK9oM

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  3. Appalling to see my old Alma Mater brought down to such a low. Mark Scott was a disastrous apoointment.

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