Open Thread – Tues 29 Mar 2022


Rasputitsa, Alexei Savrasov, 1894

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Gabor
Gabor
March 30, 2022 4:42 am

???? ?? ?????? (https://www.facebook.com/SilasaIstoka/)

A Serbian site Russian allied

The Army of the Russian Federation has captured Ukrainian neo-Nazis Sergej Velichko and Konstantin Nemichev, fighters of the Nazist Battalion Azov
Sergej Velichko (28 years old) has been fighting against Donbas since 2014. year, he was an active participant in the crime on Majdan, the leader is a fan of Kharkiv FC Metalist, who were involved in the tragedy in Odessa, when 48 people were killed as a result of a conflict in the city center and a fire in the Union House building – a supporter of “anti-Majdan”.
Konstantin Nemichev (26 years) is the commander of the battalion of the Kharkiv defense cell. In the spring of 2014. he fought in Kharkovo against local supporters of “anti-Midan”.

Gabor
Gabor
March 30, 2022 4:44 am

The many ???s ? Looks like WordPress does not process cyrillic.

Gabor
Gabor
March 30, 2022 4:52 am

Seems the T-72 is somewhat resistant to some rockets?

Not sure the links work??

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feelthebern
feelthebern
March 30, 2022 4:56 am

Tina Norton is spot on.
Unfortunately there are 40million Ukrainians who are the victims.
Not Biden’s ego.

Anchor What
Anchor What
March 30, 2022 5:41 am

Russia versus Ukraine: bad guys against bad guys?
Hat tip – Tony Abbott commenting on war in the ME.

Anchor What
Anchor What
March 30, 2022 5:48 am

FBI – laptop? We aren’t sure where it is at present.
Media – no mention of Hunter Biden in 37 weeks.
Jan 6 Committee – insurrectionist Trump and friends cannot stand for office.
Fox News – don’t mention the voter fraud in 2020.
Democrats – building a better why via new social media networks.
Judge appointed by Clinton – Trump probably guilty of something.
Disney organisation – going with the woke flow.

What is going to change the course of the USA, currently well down the slippery slope to disintegration and failed state status?

Gabor
Gabor
March 30, 2022 5:54 am
Anchor What
Anchor What
March 30, 2022 6:08 am

Only some black lives matter.
Headline at Fox News site: AOC backs Dems calling for Clarence Thomas to resign over his wife’s texts.

132andBush
132andBush
March 30, 2022 6:38 am

Sancho Panzer says:
March 29, 2022 at 10:59 pm

Shit on the shoe at the truck stop.
It’s up there in Cat history with “suicide by bayonet tethered to a tent peg”.
It’s close.

I’ve had the same thing very nearly happen to me, avoided only because I was in my header which meant daylight hrs travel. Slight difference to Struth in that I was pulled up across from the Shell roadhouse at Hay, it’s the one closer to the round-a-bout.
And he didn’t say he blamed sub continentals particularly for the poo on the shoe, I took it as an example of declined standards generally and that applies across the board, black white brindle. And he’s correct and it’s happened in the last ten years, particularly the last five.
As KD said I’d like to see proof of the “hole cut in the floor to crap” story as I’ve heard a lot of the anecdotes as well.

Your keenness to shit can Struth at every turn has become very boring.

But you don’t pull over on that side of the roadhouse, never have.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 30, 2022 6:48 am

Credit Suisse faces $500 million plus bill after ex-Georgian PM wins court case

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/29/credit-suisse-faces-500-million-bill-after-ex-georgian-pm-wins-case.html

The financial media is piling on Credit Suisse.
The bigger question is how the former PM of a shit hole country had that much in the first place.

bespoke
bespoke
March 30, 2022 6:55 am

XXXX Bitter Cans

I was unaware that Gods Nectar was being rationed

I was ready start a new day and read this atrocity.
Don’t make me to declare war Winston.

132andBush
132andBush
March 30, 2022 6:58 am

Arky says:
March 30, 2022 at 12:44 am

Catching up.

Well said.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 30, 2022 6:58 am

US home data for January was released overnight.
Best city for the 12 months ending Jan 2022?
Tampa +30.8%.
Worst?
Washington +11.2%.
Closely followed by Minneapolis +11.8 & Chicago +12.5%.

Tom Brady should get most of the credit.

Winston Smith
March 30, 2022 7:07 am

Bespoke:

XXXX Bitter Cans
I was unaware that Gods Nectar was being rationed

I was ready start a new day and read this atrocity.
Don’t make me to declare war Winston.

Too late, you heathen defiler of Gods greatest creation – a recipe passed down from Heaven to lighten our daily lives.
“On the seventh day, God kicked back and scoffed multiple tinnies of XXXX Bitter.”
It says so in His Book.
Isaiah 24:9
“No longer do they drink wine with a song; the beer is bitter to its drinkers.”
An obvious reference to XXXX Bitter.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 30, 2022 7:07 am

Seems the T-72 is somewhat resistant to some rockets?

Gabor – The NLAW only arms itself after 65m in direct attack mode or 20m for over the top mode, the tank was too close. The only thing which went bang was the remaining rocket fuel, the warhead didn’t go off.

I’m not sure of the 65m direct fire arming distance, I saw that once, but the 20m distance is well known.

Gabor
Gabor
March 30, 2022 7:16 am

Bruce of Newcastle says:
March 30, 2022 at 7:07 am

Gabor – The NLAW only arms itself after 65m in direct attack mode or 20m for over the top mode, the tank was too close. The only thing which went bang was the remaining rocket fuel, the warhead didn’t go off.

I’m not sure of the 65m direct fire arming distance, I saw that once, but the 20m distance is well known.

You could be right, I also think that aiming at the turret was wrong?
Others with more knowledge can explain.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 30, 2022 7:19 am

Russia says it will sharply cut military activity near Kyiv, Chernihiv

“Conduct a special operation” = invade
“Sharply cut military activity” = retreat

I think Vlad has been watching old episodes of Yes Minister.

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 7:25 am

Chip Bok #2. I too was thinking Moe Howard could offer some tips on slapping for the cameras.

All the cartoons draw themselves these days. Hard to tell real people from caricatures.

I didn’t watch the budget speech either. The stir fry pork loin for dinner was enough for me. Fresh, not from a barrel.

Winston Smith
March 30, 2022 7:28 am

The Democrats continued war on the poor is ramped up. They want the US destroyed.

At a time of record prices, the Democrats want to reduce supply.

Gabor
Gabor
March 30, 2022 7:30 am
Dot
Dot
March 30, 2022 7:31 am

How much free shit do I get now and when do I get my own money back through the “generosity” of the tax system?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 30, 2022 7:38 am

You could be right, I also think that aiming at the turret was wrong?

Gabor – I think he was aiming for the top of the turret which has less armour than the sides. Or maybe the top of the tank just behind the turret. That’s why both the NLAW and Javelin ideally fly over the top and shoot downwards. In this case he was already above, which is why I mentioned direct fire mode.

The guy looked more like he was firing a RPG, he probably was doing what was instinctive. They wouldn’t have had much training on NLAWs so it’d be hard in such pressured circumstances to do the correct set up, and wait until the tank was far enough away for the warhead to arm itself.

In some ways he was lucky. If the warhead had penetrated it’d’ve blown the ammunition carosel, which is under the gunner’s seat. There would’ve been a rather large kaboom. That’s why the Turret Throwing Olympics is a thing. He could’ve had a tank turret come through the window.

Winston Smith
March 30, 2022 7:39 am

Can anyone explain the reasoning behind this?
It’s a bit too complex for me – Part of the US bond yield curve briefly inverted for the first time since 2006 Monday, adding to fears that a recession could soon hit the country’s economy as the Federal Reserve hikes interest rates hard.

bespoke
bespoke
March 30, 2022 7:40 am

Numberwang was a multi-cultural booster but only on his terms when his status was unchallenged. That’s why I thing he hated Melbourne so much.

Iv worked with all sorts of mixed groups competing for work with some personality clashes and cultural differences that get shrugged of at the end of the day it’s been no big deal.

That said the last crew was almost made up of one ethnic group, it did spook me with submissive silence no smiles no jokes no gentle ribbing at each other.
Rocking up with new or near new cars also added to my concerns.

Bottom line if they haven’t worked in a close, mixed, stressful competitive environment I do not take boosters multi-culturalism or lectures on racism seriously.

The difference today is these groups are incentivised not to mix with others. This is the problem.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 30, 2022 7:44 am

Indonesia is jumping on the cheap Russian wheat & oil train.
In the olden days, deals like this were done in the shadows.
Now nation states are happy to publicly say they are dealing with countries under predominantly US sanctions.
This wouldn’t have happened under Obama.
This definitely wouldn’t have happened under Trump.
I wonder what’s changed.

duncanm
duncanm
March 30, 2022 7:46 am

I’ve been trying to get up a stubbies v cans stoush with the vicious intensity of trucks v trains, but no-one has bitten. Surely we can get some mindless abuse hurled over this?

.. long-necks are the king of the personal beer container.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 30, 2022 7:46 am

Joe Aston on Bandanna man in the AFR today.

There is no greater dickhead than Peter FitzSimons. Were there an All Australian team of dickheads, Fitzy would be its captain and its most capped player. His trophy cabinet would hold the Brownlow, the Coleman and the Norm Smith medals. Gary Ablett Sr would be supplanted as God … of the dickheads.

It’s paywalled so no point posting a link.
Too long for the cut n paste.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 30, 2022 7:47 am

XXXX Bitter Cans
I was unaware that Gods Nectar was being rationed

Unacceptable. Society has no right to judge.

I for one fully support people’s human right to drink what they want, in the way they want, in the privacy of their own home.
Love is love.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 30, 2022 7:47 am

Bugger, that was meant to be italics, not bolded.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 30, 2022 7:49 am

Dover, can you make Joe Aston’s comment above a liberty quote?
Or am I being too forward?

Cassie of Sydney
March 30, 2022 7:52 am

“Joe Aston on Bandanna man in the AFR today.”

Thanks Bern. I will read in full at work.

bespoke
bespoke
March 30, 2022 7:55 am

Feel that Winston, it’s my stink eye reaching out.

And thats only the begining.

duncanm
duncanm
March 30, 2022 7:55 am

Gaborsays:
March 30, 2022 at 5:54 am
The killing goes on in Israel uninterrupted.

Both the Pali’s and the Israeli’s need to listen to the saner leaders:

Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas condemned the terrorist attack late on Tuesday, Israeli media reported.

“The killing of Israeli and Palestinian civilians will only lead to a deterioration of the situation ahead of Ramadan,” the PA head said. “We are trying to obtain some stability.”

Abbas also warned, however, against using the attack as justification for settler violence against Palestinians. “This circle of violence shows true, lasting peace is the only solution to maintaining the security and stability for our peoples.”

vs.

The Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) blesses the heroic operation against the Zionist occupation soldiers in the so-called ‘Tel Aviv’ area, which led to the killing and wounding of a number of Zionist occupiers..

and

..Bystanders repeatedly disrupted reporters on air with chants of “Death to the Arabs”

Dot
Dot
March 30, 2022 7:58 am

Israel is rightfully Iranian, the claim is supported by Christian and Jewish scripture. Tehran to begin intensive denazification.

Cassie of Sydney
March 30, 2022 8:01 am

I haven’t looked at the budget….was there enough pork to get Scumbag over the line?

From The Oz.

Morrison ‘not fit to be PM’: Fierravanti-Wells
Veteran Liberal Senator Concetta Fierravanti-Wells slammed has Scott Morrison in the Senate over his NSW factional power playing.

She’s actually right. The thing is though, the oink from Grayndler is worse.

One of my best friends attended Dave Sharma’s campaign launch on Sunday morning. She said that they’re worried about Allegra Da Big Spenda. Julie Bishop appeared as a guest for Dave….how very nice. Pity she didn’t chip in back in 2019 to help Tony Abbott but I digress. Anyway, apparently Bishop told the audience that a vote for Allegra is a vote for Labor and the Greens and that the so called independents in parliament today, such as Steggall and Haines, consistently vote with Labor and Greens over 65% of the time. We know this Julie but you helped make this bed.

Oh and perhaps Julie could also call out that miserable ghost Turdbull, who I reckon is helping to fund Allegra, along with his miserable children.

will
will
March 30, 2022 8:02 am
Gabor
Gabor
March 30, 2022 8:02 am

duncanm says:
March 30, 2022 at 7:55 am

Both the Pali’s and the Israeli’s need to listen to the saner leaders:

Agreed, didn’t happen in the past 60 odd years, so I’m not holding my breath.
Sad as it is it’s happening.

duncanm
duncanm
March 30, 2022 8:03 am

More from that Joe Aston article in the AFR:

To date, Fitzy has had nothing at all to say about Franklin’s achievement, nor the astonishing spectacle that accompanied it. This is uncharacteristic circumspection, for Fitzy has a line on everything, a compulsion to share it and an unshakable conviction in its high value. He even tweets his daily Wordle result, a whole new realm of banality.

duncanm
duncanm
March 30, 2022 8:04 am

Gabor says:
March 30, 2022 at 8:02 am

Agreed, didn’t happen in the past 60 odd years, so I’m not holding my breath.

Unfortunately, neither am I. It’ll either drag on for eternity, or there will be a serious flare-up at some point.

duncanm
duncanm
March 30, 2022 8:07 am

Liberal senator Concetta Fierravanti-Wells has described Prime Minister Scott Morrison as an autocrat and a bully with no “moral compass”.

Not sure about the autocratic bully.. but she’s on the money with the lack of a compass.

Cassie of Sydney
March 30, 2022 8:07 am

“Both the Pali’s and the Israeli’s need to listen to the saner leaders:”

Umm…I don’t think there’s a comparison. One culture celebrates death, the other doesn’t.

Oh and the current Israeli coalition has Muslim Arab parties in it. I’m pretty sure the PA doesn’t have any Jews in it.

will
will
March 30, 2022 8:08 am

Too long for the cut n paste.

I do not understand the aversion (and small minded complaints) to posting long paywalled articles. I certainly cannot subscribe to all the media, nor want to, and if it interests some it may interest all.

Better than reading the inane bikering which often dominated discourse here.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 30, 2022 8:10 am

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned…

Outgoing Liberal Senator Concetta Fierravanti-Wells has delivered a scathing assessment of Scott Morrison – declaring he’s “not fit to be prime minister”. (Sky News, 30 Mar)

Last week, the New South Wales conservative was given an unwinnable position on the Liberal Party Senate ticket, ahead of the upcoming election.

Speaking on Tuesday night less than two hours after the Budget was delivered, Ms Fierravanti-Wells lashed the party’s preselection process, which has been dominated by factional warfare and candidate chaos.

Revenge! Maybe the party bosses should’ve thought this through before dumping her.

Admittedly after Jim Molan’s massive personal vote in the last election you can see why they’d want him in the third position.

Cassie of Sydney
March 30, 2022 8:10 am

I think Golda Meir once said it best…

““We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 30, 2022 8:11 am

Cassie gets a snap!

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 8:13 am

Morrison ‘not fit to be PM’: Fierravanti-Wells

Yes…well. Is anyone in politics “fit to be PM”? What would you prefer, plebs? The dagger or the poisoned chalice?

All turning on their own, biting each other, settling old scores.

None of them can govern themselves, not one.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 30, 2022 8:15 am

Ed Casesays:
March 29, 2022 at 10:22 pm
No, you couldn’t say the same about Russia or China.
Stealing and thieving are actively discouraged there,

Only among the peasants, Dickless, only among the peasants.

For those at the top of the pile, it is part of the remuneration package. Ask the other spooks, they can brief you.

Cassie of Sydney
March 30, 2022 8:15 am

The thing is, I think Jim Molan is just as spineless and weak as the rest of them. He’s all talk and no action.

bespoke
bespoke
March 30, 2022 8:16 am

A good deal of the problem with the conflict is outside agitators. I choose not get emotionally involved these days. Have my own priority’s.

Winston Smith
March 30, 2022 8:23 am

Bespoke:

Feel that Winston, it’s my stink eye reaching out.
And thats only the begining.

Ha!
Your stink eye missed.
I fart in your general direction.
Your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries.
So there!

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 8:26 am

Oh joy! Another first world problem strikes chateau calli. No hot water!

I blame Climate Change.

will
will
March 30, 2022 8:30 am

Not sure about the autocratic bully.. but she’s on the money with the lack of a compass.

He started looking good when he taunted the opposition with a lump of coal, and now we have “Net Zero”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 30, 2022 8:31 am

will, the problem is with the long columns is the amount of ads they shove in them.
But leave it with me.
The least I can do in return for your dilberts.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 30, 2022 8:32 am

Peter FitzSimons’ Buddy Franklin howler

Lance “Buddy” Franklin kicking his 1000th goal at the Sydney Cricket Ground in the final quarter of Friday night’s clash between the Swans and Geelong was unambiguously the sporting moment of the year, if not the decade.

It was a once-in-a-generation accomplishment in the limited universe of Australian rules football, yet the collective emotional conflagration ensured it was a global event.

About 250,000 people spilled onto the field and into that heaving milieu orbiting Buddy – at least if you count every Sydneysider who, years from now, will claim to have been there.

Hometown rag, The Sydney Morning Herald, runs a column each week – often more than one column – containing blow-by-blow commentary on the notable milestones in Australian sport. It’s phoned in from the harbourside home-office of Peter FitzSimons (and his dutiful research team).

To date, Fitzy has had nothing at all to say about Franklin’s achievement, nor the astonishing spectacle that accompanied it. This is uncharacteristic circumspection, for Fitzy has a line on everything, a compulsion to share it and an unshakable conviction in its high value. He even tweets his daily Wordle result, a whole new realm of banality.

Would Fitzy perchance be mindful of an intemperate column he penned in October 2013 – upon the Swans signing Buddy on a nine-year, $10 million deal – in which he asked, in caps for oafish over-emphasis, “HAVE THE SWANS GOT FREAKING ROCKS IN THEIR HEAD (sic)?”

Franklin, he reckoned, “will gravitate to the Ivy on George Street”. To the enduring disappointment of Emerald City’s paparazzi, Buddy mostly gravitated to his couch at home in Rose Bay.

But FitzSimons’ leading objection to Franklin’s sensational recruitment was that “prima facie”, it represented a breach of the club’s ” ‘no dickheads’ selectorial policy”, which was “the whole shtick of the Swans for the past decade.”

“If you called Central Casting and said, ‘Send me over a prime dickhead’, and Buddy Franklin turned up… a tower of swaggering sneer and staggering hubris… you would hardly be inclined to ask for your money back.”

Welcome to Fitzy’s Self-Awareness Free Zone. The guy wearing a pirate hankie on his head for no explicable reason, hectoring Sydney with his witless attitudes, naming the dickheads among us.

There is no greater dickhead than Peter FitzSimons. Were there an All Australian team of dickheads, Fitzy would be its captain and its most capped player. His trophy cabinet would hold the Brownlow, the Coleman and the Norm Smith medals. Gary Ablett Sr would be supplanted as God … of the dickheads.

Fitzy was merely one in a chorus of voices against Franklin’s Sydney deal in 2013, of course, AFL House being among them.

How wrong they all were.

None of the anxieties that Franklin posed a cultural ill-fit for the team have borne out. He is popular with the other players and by all accounts is very humble and shy.

Buddy has been an on-field sensation. His aura effect has, over the past eight years, cemented the Swans in the popular consciousness of Sydney.

To widespread indignation, Sydney paid him $1.1 million a year. Club turnover promptly rose by $12 million a year as club membership increased by 70 per cent. Home crowds are up 15 per cent.

36,000 people and those extraordinary scenes on Friday – how can you place a dollar value on that? Money cannot buy it. It is the magic jam from heaven.

Buddy was a bargain and a coup almost beyond compare. Fitzy’s ghostwriters should put that in his next column.

Winston Smith
March 30, 2022 8:33 am

Growing my hair as part of the winter pelt. Unfortunately it’s now at the Phyllis Diller sticking her fingers in a light socket stage.
Maybe do a #1 again and when it gets cold, rub some Stella Artois into the scalp.
That’s what its made for, isn’t it?

Kneel
Kneel
March 30, 2022 8:34 am

“And he’s correct and it’s happened in the last ten years, particularly the last five.”

No, it goes further back than that.

We lost textiles, electronics and automotive industries on the basis of “free trade” (which was anything but), and no-one seemed to really care much, despite those losses decimating the supply chains that were also local like steel, glass and components for the automotive industry.

Then we had the totally ridiculous situation where we had thousands graduating with IT qualifications, because according to GovCo that was “the future” and there was a “shortage”, only to be undercut by immigration ponzi imports especially selected to “fill the gap”, when there was no gap at all and plenty of locals ready and qualified to do the job.

Add in the education industrial complex, where you now need a degree in beverages to be a barista, and it is no surprise to me that this ridiculousness has finally reached into the logistics chain and people like St Ruth are feeling the impact.

It seems it was fine while it was manufacturing and other services because “I’m alright Jack” and you always need truck drivers right, and that involves physically being present and no way to off-shore it, plus you need local qualifications, so that’s never going away. Yeah – until they used the same immigration ponzi fix on you they used on the IT people.

So you know what? Why the fuck should I care about truck drivers when they never gave a fuck about me? Why should I care that you are being undercut on pay and conditions when you never gave a fuck about my pay and conditions being under the same attack as long as you got your cheap shit from overseas? Oh, you whinged about crappy call centres, but you never stood up and said “We need these jobs here in Australia!”, did you?

Too fucking late now Struth – you had the chance to stand up for Australian jobs and Australian industry, but you didn’t because it didn’t affect you – you even thought it was great you now had lots of cheap plastic dog shit from China – and now that it is affecting you, you complain. Suck it up princess, you let it happen in your inattention and complacency and your “I’ll be OK” attitude. Too fucking late to whinge now, you hypocrite.

bespoke
bespoke
March 30, 2022 8:34 am

Off to the park with the granddaughter.

I shall return to be sure Winston.

sfw
sfw
March 30, 2022 8:39 am

For those considering an electric car, dealers in the US are finding that the cost of installing chargers for EV’s is way more expensive than they thought it would be. Remember that dealerships are in the main, if not exclusively in commercial properties which usually have higher capacity mains than domestic buildings. Most Australian homes have 60 amp single phase mains supply. It can be increased fairly easily to a few homes but if a lot want increased current then the street mains, transformers and the transmission network will need upgrading, this is very very expensive and the cost would be spread evenly over the consumers, even those who neither want nor need increased current for ev chargers. I guess those who want ev’s will gloss over this and not care about others subsidising their network supply infrastructure.

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2022/03/dealers-annoyed-with-price-of-ev-charger-installs/

duncanm
duncanm
March 30, 2022 8:40 am

Kneelsays:
March 30, 2022 at 8:34 am

Harsh.. but fair.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 30, 2022 8:40 am

The footage of the chicken shit pali is all over twitter, for now.
He opens fire on unsuspecting motorists & pedestrians.
Real role model stuff.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 30, 2022 8:40 am

Kneel at 8:34.
First the Indians came for the 7/11 servo jobs.
I said nothing, for I did not work in a servo.
Next the Indians came for the cleaners jobs.
Again I remained silent, because I am not a cleaner.
Then they came for my truck driving job.
There was no-one left to speak for me.

duncanm
duncanm
March 30, 2022 8:44 am

I guess those who want ev’s will gloss over this and not care about others subsidising their network supply infrastructure.

no – those that want ev’s do not understand these limitations.

They do not understand the topology and temporal aspects of power generation, delivery and consumption one iota.

I would venture to say most do not understand anything practical beyond feeding themselves from the supermarket.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 30, 2022 8:45 am

I guess those who want ev’s will gloss over this and not care about others subsidising their network supply infrastructure.

Hopefully.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 30, 2022 8:45 am

Indigenous campaign seeks a ban on all-white juries in some trials

An Indigenous campaign is calling for a ban on all-white juries in cases where a police officer or other person in authority is being tried over the death of an Indigenous person.

Debate over jury representation was triggered after an apparently all-white jury acquitted Northern Territory police officer Zachary Rolfe on charges arising from the March 2019 shooting death of Kumanjayi Walker.

Campaign leader Desmond Blurton/Cuiamara said he was taking his local campaign national, with a planned public protest on April 7 at Western Australia’s state parliament building; he was also considering launching a petition through social media.

“We need our mob represented,” said Mr Blurton, a Nyungah Ballardong man and deputy chair of WA’s Deaths in Custody Watch Committee. “I don’t care if it’s 20 per cent of the jury or whatever, but we still need to be represented in the jury.”

He had also written a submission to the Law Society of WA, emailed the state’s Attorney-­General John Quigley and appealed to top barristers for public support. “I would like them to stand with us, the First Nations mob, in solidarity to let this society know this is unjust, unfair, racist and cannot be tolerated in a fair society.”

A Law Society spokeswoman said it did not have a formal position regarding Indigenous representation on juries “but the campaign has been brought to our attention and we will raise it with our committees, for their feedback”.

Commenting on the jury composition in the Rolfe trial earlier in March, Labor legal affairs spokesman Mark Dreyfus called for a concerted effort by the commonwealth to get more Indigenous people on to electoral rolls, given they are the source of jurors.

“Unfortunately, as we know, there is significant under-­enrolment of Indigenous people in the Northern Territory, and as such they are under-represented in jury pools,” he said.

The latest Australian Electoral Commission data shows enrolment of eligible Indigenous people nationally at 79.4 per cent compared with 74.7 per cent in 2017.

The current figure for eligible non-Indigenous people is 96.3 per cent. NT Indigenous enrolment is 69.6 per cent, up from 67.1 per cent in 2017.

The AEC’s Indigenous electoral participation program, established in 2010, employs Indig­enous and community engagement officers to help facilitate enrolment. The program was allocated a further $9.4m in Oct­ober for initiatives including educational podcasts in various languages and youth mentoring to drive enrolment.

The question of Indigenous representation on juries is a matter of justice being seen to be done, according to a lawyer who challenged the NT Juries Act in the Supreme Court over the issue more than a decade ago.

“The court affirmed that in Australia there is no right to have any particular racial representation on juries,” retired criminal lawyer and specialist in the area Russell Goldflam said of the result.

Mr Goldflam, a member of the NT Law Reform Committee that recommended reforms in 2013, said he did not know whether there had been Indigenous people on the Rolfe jury and was “not suggesting that having Indigenous people on the jury would have changed the verdict”.

“What I do believe is that had there been Indigenous representation on the jury, that would enable the community as a whole to have more confidence in the outcome,” Mr Goldflam said.

JILL ROWBOTHAM
LEGAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT

Oz – allowing comments if you can leap the paywall

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 30, 2022 8:49 am

Nothing in the budget for me, apart from them maintaining the timetable for future tax cuts & the entire elimination of a tax bracket.
Seriously, I wonder what it’s like to receive something in the budget.
All I’ve ever “gotten” from them is reduced thieving from me.

Indolent
Indolent
March 30, 2022 8:53 am

Rep. Matt Gaetz
@RepMattGaetz
BREAKING: FBI Cyber Chief can’t find Hunter Biden’s laptop…

or as Catturd put it –

Our FBI is the most corrupt agency in the world. They’re rotten and criminal to the core.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 30, 2022 8:55 am

Further to Kneel at 8:34.
This “I’m alright Jack” attitude is on the money.
They looked at the loss of manufacturing jobs and thought, “Well, they can’t do my job overseas because it is geographically tied to Straya”.
This was mainly transport and construction, and it lead to union driven wage growth for semi-skilled wukkas not warranted by their skill-set.
Transport is now under-pinned by an imported workforce, but those in construction still feel untouchable, mainly due union influence.
OK, it hasn’t happened in CBD tower construction yet, but the mantra in mining and oil & gas for years has been “modularise construction offshore and minimise onshore work”.
For example, a lot of CSG well-heads arrive pre-manufactured in container sized units with the local work being to do up the four wingnuts and plug it in.

Indolent
Indolent
March 30, 2022 8:55 am

Steve Scalise
@SteveScalise
· 23h

Trump can’t tweet.
But the Kremlin can.

The Babylon Bee can’t tweet.
But the Chinese Communist Party can.

Members of Congress can’t tweet.
But the Ayatollah & Taliban can.

They only target conservatives—and don’t even try to hide it anymore.

We must hold Big Tech accountable.

Indolent
Indolent
March 30, 2022 8:56 am
calli
calli
March 30, 2022 9:02 am

Belay the Hot Water Emergency of 2022.

The Beloved turned the selector on the shower the wrong way. Hair all soaped up and ready to go. Brrrrrr. I told him he’s getting senile. And blamed the Booster.

No, not that one. The other one. 😀

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 30, 2022 9:02 am

Morrison ‘not fit to be PM’: Fierravanti-Wells

Hmmm…what do you think she means by ‘PM’. I think she has different ideas than us.

When she says Morro is not fit to be PM she is not seeing the same failings we do. She might use the same words, but she is not talking about the same thing.

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 9:04 am

I thought Bunter’s laptop had already been cloned by the tech guy in Deleware – the one they viciously cancelled.

Regardless of the hardware, the contents still exist. I bet Trump has a copy.

As well as being utterly corrupt, the FBI is as dumb as a bag of hammers.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 30, 2022 9:08 am

BREAKING: FBI Cyber Chief can’t find Hunter Biden’s laptop…

Dmitry, Dmitry, you’ve lost another laptop…?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 30, 2022 9:08 am

An Indigenous campaign is calling for a ban on all-white juries in cases where a police officer or other person in authority is being tried over the death of an Indigenous person.

I gather it is hard to get local Indigenes in these places to turn up, although there are plenty to choose from in the cities – although she should avoid saying ‘White’ because these Aborigines have very white skin. They also have red or blonde hair, blue eyes, degrees in politics, and the Aboriginal trappings they have in their home were bought from shops which guarantee authentic Aboriginal artisans.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 30, 2022 9:09 am

sfw

I guess those who want ev’s will gloss over this and not care about others subsidising their network supply infrastructure.

Being subsidised by non-Greens is the whole basis of the Slime identity.

See also, solar and wind “power”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 30, 2022 9:09 am

The life cycle of a rambling argument.
The start:-

Trucks are driven across the Nullabor with crews of four (4) incontinent sub-continentals cutting holes in the floor and taking turns to drop brown bombs on the run.

This was rightly laughed off the park.
Then it morphed into:-

Well, people of unkown nationality and occupation* are depositing #2’s at a couple of specific truck stops in NSW.
* When I say “unknown” you know who I mean, right?

And we end up at:-

We have a right to question cultural differences. That’s all it is. Anyone who calls it racist is a sneering, scoffing bully boy silvertail, punching down on the wukkas.

Kneel
Kneel
March 30, 2022 9:10 am

Sancho Panzer says:
March 30, 2022 at 8:55 am

I find it even more annoying when people like St Ruth make a very similar complaint re: vexxination. “I saw it, I told you, you’re all idiots, look what you let happen”.
Sure.
And you watched peoples jobs, pay and conditions get decimated because “I’m OK, can’t do it to me” attitude, as Sancho points out. Well to those like St Ruth who complain about the vexxination shit, I tell you that you had the same warnings about jobs, pay, conditions and entire industries being destroyed, but you caved in and didn’t care. And now they’re coming for you. So as I said “Suck it up princess” – you might not deserve it, but neither did anyone else, and you only complain when it affects you, so stop whinging to me about you finally getting stung with what has happened to me already, and more than once. And unlike the vax shit, they didn’t even lie about it, they just decimated the industries I was in and you cheered them on because “cheaper for me”. Fuck off, dimwit – if anyone deserves it for lack of foresight, it is you.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 30, 2022 9:14 am

Dmitry, Dmitry, you’ve lost another laptop…?

In my position I’m sometimes compromised by the fact Moscow Joe’s puppet-masters don’t always tell me everything.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 30, 2022 9:16 am

callisays:

March 30, 2022 at 9:02 am

Belay the Hot Water Emergency of 2022.

Standard fare out our place.
Used to be once a month it would flame out.
The internal pressure (supposed to be 1 – 1.2 bar) would either be below 0.5 or over 3.
And it hemorrhaged water at such a rate (10 – 15 litres a day) I had to instal a pump to get rid of it.
After spending the price of a new one replacing every removable component it now works.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 30, 2022 9:18 am

Just let me say it out loud: Hunter’s laptop did not kill itself.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
March 30, 2022 9:24 am

From the Oz.

We must steel ourselves to protect an Australian way of life
The damage done to the American psyche through unrelenting attacks on its core values and the destructive rewriting of its history is very real. For Australia, it is a cautionary tale.

By LACHLAN MURDOCH

PHOTO. We should be wary of those who would deny this freedom and call for less debate, less openness, and less diversity of opinion. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Gary Ramage

From InquirerMarch 29, 2022

15 MINUTE READ
Our way of life has faced some serious challenges over the past year. For a long time, for many of us, it changed. And so this discussion is as pertinent as it is important.

I suppose you must start with some basic questions. Is there a unique Australian way of life? If so, what is it? And ultimately, why is it essential? Is it worth investing in?

Well, the first question is easy. Yes. Anyone of us; all of us lucky to have spent time living or travelling overseas know that Australia does have its own identity, its own unique culture and a specific way of life.

Let me start with identity, which is a bit easier, and move on to way of life later on.

If we just take the two countries we are seen as culturally closest to, America and the United Kingdom, we can see clear differences.

Having grown up and lived in the US, in the UK and in Australia, I appreciate our historical bonds and the similarities of our character. But I also know and appreciate what makes Australia different.

Our Constitution, for instance, is a melding of the Westminster system and the American federation, the best of the old world and of the new.

All three nations value freedom, democracy, aspiration and endeavour – qualities we have fought hard to protect. And while we differ in national character, there are similarities there too.

The ironic Australian sense of humour can be traced to Britain and Ireland, while our nation was forged with a frontier attitude, reminiscent of the US drive westwards, with strong veins of optimism and self-reliance.

But as America expanded west, their explorers and pioneers found rich plains, vast rivers and mountains; we found a far harsher and more difficult environment. Perhaps this added to our sense of irony; it certainly added to our enduring resilience.

When my father delivered his first Boyer lecture nearly 13 years ago, he referenced a favourite Russell Drysdale painting that to him represents the beauty, character and resilience of the Australian landscape and its people.

The painting, The Stockman and His Family, depicts an Aboriginal family, clearly burdened by the hardships of the past, weathered by the harshness of their environment, but with eyes cast hopefully to the future.

Without ignoring issues of Indigenous disadvantage, my father was focusing on the shared characteristics and experiences of Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal Australians – isolated from the rest of the world, tested by the vicissitudes of our climate, and together carving out a future on our continent. Drawing inspiration from the strength in that image, my father said, “Our national character should never lose that steeliness.”

PHOTO. The streets of Lismore, in northern NSW, inundated with floodwater. Picture: Nathan Edwards

Steeliness: it is a good word, isn’t it? It’s a better quality, one that Australians have displayed handily throughout the past.

That my father warned, or implored us not to lose that quality, tacitly acknowledges that we could. It is understood that national identity and culture is, rightly, a constantly evolving, always living thing. It is always a work in progress.

Identity is like a long rope, made up of hundreds of woven strands of shorter individual fibres. In totality the woven strands provide strength and purpose, and a kind of collective unity. But as one strand ends, others are woven in. That’s what gives a rope its strength. But the strands at the beginning of the rope are entirely different from the strands at the end.

We are not who we were 100 years ago, or who we might become 100 years from now. Culture and identity are not, and cannot be, frozen in time. It is this fluid aspect of identity that makes the Centre for the Australian Way of Life such an inspired idea.

Understanding first what characteristics make us unique and what shared values unite us is essential before we can celebrate the good, reject the bad and, yes, embrace the new.

This endeavour works only if you believe, as I do, that together we are incredibly lucky to be Australian. That our country, while not perfect, represents invaluable freedoms and characteristics that are worth celebrating, nourishing and defending.

I am always saddened when elements of our citizenry, often the elites who have benefited most from our country, display not a love of our values but a disdain for them.

This is why some of what sets Australia apart is under threat. Our core values, our successes and even our history are under constant attack.

Nourishing and defending those core values are extremely important. Not to do so has real world, real bad outcomes.

This past month we have all been both horrified by the brutality of Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine and inspired by its leaders and its people in their courageous defence of their country. The people of Ukraine were living in an emerging democracy, embracing their post-Soviet sovereignty, working hard to achieve their economic and political aspirations, when Russia decided to snatch that future away from them.

Ukrainians also know that their country is not perfect, and yet tonight they continue to fight and to die for their sovereignty, their identity and their most basic of freedoms.

It is heart-wrenching to watch, and we must continue to help them defend themselves. Most of us agree on this basic point.

PHOTO. People walk in front of a church as smoke rises after an air strike in the western Ukrainian city of Lviv on March 26. Picture: AFP

And so I was shocked when a respected poll in the United States last week revealed that barely a majority of Americans would defend their country if invaded in a similar way. Could it really be that the America that fought not just a bloody war of independence from a foreign empire but also an even bloodier and more nationally defining civil war of emancipation not long after; could it be that this exceptional country is now so politically divided that barely half of its citizens care deeply enough for its values that they would fight for them?

The damage done to the American psyche through unrelenting attacks on its core values and via the destructive rewriting of its history is very real.

It has been widely reported that Russia’s attempts to influence recent American elections were designed to sow anger and discord on all sides. There were, and presumably remain, efforts to divide the country and undermine its faith in its core values and institutions.

The Russians found fertile ground. In 2019 The New York Times published the first of a series of essays called the 1619 Project, which recast American exceptionalism as racist from inception.

You couldn’t have picked a more polarising and dividing thesis. The essays, criticised by many historians, are what they profess to be in their title: a project to recast American history and long accepted values through a radical and radically divisive lens.

Its author, Nikole Hannah-Jones, has said that “all journalism is activism”. That’s wrong. And it has done great damage. America is a great country, populated by an amazing and also resilient people. It will overcome these challenges.

But here, in Australia, let’s learn from this cautionary tale.

Let me go back to one of my original questions. Why is our identity and our culture so important? Why is it worth investing so much in?

By definition an Australian identity must apply to all of us. It is something that is not political, or economic, not drawn by class or education, not based in race or sex, or whether you are a new immigrant or a member of our oldest peoples. An Australian identity unites all of us.

Together we are strong. Divided we are weak.

PHOTO. Supporters of US President Donald Trump protest outside the US Capitol on January 6, 2021.

But our national identity and culture are weathering constant attempts to recast Australia as something it isn’t.

To listen to our national broadcaster or much of the media elite is to hear about a uniquely racist, selfish, slavish and monochromatic country.

The reality could not be more different – we are one of the most tolerant, generous, independent and multicultural countries in human history. Not without fault, but without peer.

How can we expect people to defend the values, interests and sovereignty of this nation if we teach our children only our faults and none of our virtues?

We must arm our young people with the facts and not undermine them with false ideological narratives.

Australians have an innate concept of fairness.

We have a visceral sense of what we call a “fair go”. This is our own idea, an antipodean concept, a deeply rooted understanding that whatever our circumstances, we deserve the same opportun­ities, the same respect, the same fair go.

It is why we welcome immigrants, embrace aspiration and scoff at class-based deference.

Former Labor prime minister Bob Hawke wrote of a national character that “adapted a class-ridden tradition to produce in this vast continent a people with a cocky insouciance, a society where mateship and the concept of a ‘fair go’ were more than myths”.

Similarly, at Gallipoli on Anzac Day in 2000, then Liberal prime minister John Howard spoke of sacrifices to defend a country where “prosperity and opportunity are derived not by birth but by endeavour”.

There is a rugged optimism about us, too, an attitude embodied in the phrase “She’ll be right”.

This is not a line of resignation, or near enough being good enough; it is a unique Australian combination of optimism and stoicism. “Stoic optimism.” Steeliness.

PHOTO. Then-prime minister John Howard with Australian Gallipoli survivor Alec Campbell outside Tomb of Unknown Soldier in 2000.

In a fraught world we need to draw on our characteristic strengths to protect ourselves and our future. What is confronting, though, is when our way of life is challenged from the most trusted and even benign of sources.

One year ago, who would have believed that in Australia a pregnant mother would be arrested for questioning a government lockdown?

Who would have thought daily press conferences where citizens were scolded and told to dob in their neighbours would become must-watch viewing?

Surrendering personal liberties, accepting government interventions and absorbing record financial hardships were literally unquestionable burdens, at risk of fines or imprisonment.

All done in the blink of an eye, with few checks and balances, and we are still counting the costs.

Alcoholism, domestic abuse, suicide – all saw record spikes during the pandemic. Why did we accept this? It must never happen again. Australia did well to turn the tyranny of distance into a temporary pandemic advantage, using maritime borders and hotel quarantine as a moat against the virus, until vaccines were developed.

The federal JobKeeper scheme provided a financial lifeline that kept employees linked to their workplaces.

Our spirit of mateship shone through at street level, with people checking on the welfare of neighbours and supporting local businesses, and it was reflected in the innovation of an informal national cabinet.

Yet we became a victim of our own success, with state leaders thinking they could out-do each other with lockdowns and remain Covid-free forever.

The popularity of these approaches no doubt was fuelled by the alarmist language and fearmongering of politicians and much of the media.

But it is the media’s job to question these policies. To examine their consequences. And to ultimately hold our elected officials to account.

That’s our job.

Lockdowns and border closures kept families apart, children were denied face-to-face education, businesses were crushed, non-Covid health issues such as cancer screenings were delayed, and mental wellbeing was jeopardised.

Tweed Heads and Coolangatta were divided like Cold War Berlin; Australian citizens were stranded overseas, banned from coming home; and those at home were not allowed to leave.

But much of the media bought into this. News Limited titles nationally campaigned for our readers to get vaccinated. It was extraordinarily and importantly impactful. But when any columnist questioned the efficacy or fairness of vaccine mandates, they were labelled anti-vaxxers. Decades ago, George Orwell pointed out how language is not only shaped by politics but is used to fabricate new realities. Debates around virus treatments, mask effectiveness, the human and economic costs of lockdowns, and vaccine mandates were treated as taboo by many elements of politics and the media.

PHOTO. Police make arrests at Victoria Market during anti-lockdown protests in Melbourne. Picture: David Crosling

Debate is essential to democracy. Important issues need to be aired, examined and judged. It can be uncomfortable, but it is the media’s key role in our system. Hoeing to one orthodoxy does not allow this; and is not the media’s role.

We must always be wary of the suppression of information. The contemporary thrill to “cancel” someone whose opinion you do not share is just the latest insidious form of censorship.

Infamously, YouTube banned Sky News Australia based on YouTube’s own judgments and changing standards about a handful of pandemic-related videos. Initially, YouTube justified this censorship by stating “YouTube does not allow for content that denies the existence of Covid-19”.

OK. But when challenged they could not find a single instance of Sky ever denying the existence of Covid-19, so they had to pivot quickly and shift their justifications. The PR executives took over and they said this: “YouTube does not allow medical disinformation about Covid-19 that poses a serious health risk or harm, or that is in contradiction with local and global health authorities guidelines.”

Apart from being an obvious and blunt cudgel to Australian’s freedom of speech, this standard was impossible to adhere to.

Which health guidelines do you use? YouTube says local and global guidelines.

YouTube used the World Health Organisation as its fact-checking guide; a body that was late to declare the pandemic, quick to admonish Australia for closing its international border, changeable in its medical rulings and reluctant to pursue the origins of the virus.

And our local guidelines were not much better. Every state had different rules, apparently different “science”, and they changed them constantly.

In America today states with strong mask mandates have just lifted them, claiming “the science has changed”. Well, no, it’s an election year and the politics have changed. What YouTube and the other members of the tech censor class are doing, at least when dealing with the media, is not protecting viewers from dangerous views or opinions but rather ensuring that only the current orthodox view is allowed.

Unfortunately for them, these orthodox views often turn out to be wrong.

Last year, quite early in the pandemic, Facebook banned any posts suggesting Covid-19 might have emerged from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

In September HarperCollins published What Really Happened in Wuhan by The Australian’s Sharri Markson, pulling together all the threads of this story, which she had reported in The Australian and on Sky News, in a brave and open quest for the truth.

PHOTO. Members of the World Health Organisation (WHO) team investigating the origins of Covid-19 arrive at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan in China’s central Hubei province.

This has been another great Australian characteristic: impertinence in the face of convention or authority. This nation has been at the forefront of demanding to know the truth about the pandemic’s origins.

Had Sharri not written such a compelling and well-sourced book, would the tech companies and media elites eventually have come around and published the facts themselves? Presumably only when they could no longer justify hiding obvious truths. But that is not brave. That is not journalism.

Leading into the US presidential election, the tech companies, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and practically all the media suppressed the discovery of Hunter Biden’s laptop. While much of the contents of the laptop was salacious, many emails and other documents raised pertinent and serious questions about the Biden family’s foreign ties and lobbying.

Had the laptop belonged to another candidate’s son, it would certainly have been the only story you would have heard in the final weeks of the election.

But lies were concocted: “The laptop was hacked or stolen”; it was not. Or: “It was Russian disinformation”; it was not. And the story was completely suppressed. It was censored by everyone.

Fast forward to last week. The election is over. And The New York Times, quietly, in paragraph 24 of a story about Hunter Biden’s taxes, admits that it has now “authenticated” the laptop and its contents.

All the New York Post’s reporting was true. All was factual. But it was suppressed and lied about for as long as it suited the political orthodoxy. This, from purely a journalistic point of view, is shameful. It should not happen. And we should never let it happen here.

PHOTO. Hunter Biden with unnamed woman at Chateau Marmont.

Finding truth is often hard. It very often comes with great personal costs. But it is essential to our nation and to our future. Telling the truth is part of our national character.

In Australia we should reject every effort, and there are many, to limit points of view, to obstruct a diversity of opinions and to enforce a singular world view. Those efforts are fundamentally anti-Australian.

The flip side of this is that we should celebrate debate, unite behind a wide diversity of opinion, and vigorously protect the basic freedoms that as Australians we have enjoyed for generations.

Which brings me back to our way of life. An Australian way of life is something that by definition must allow us to be Australian. It can’t be that our way of life would disallow any of the traits that make up our unique Australian identity.

Rather, the unifying characteristics that make us Australian must be allowed to flourish under our way of life. That is why freedom is not only a core value of our way of life, it is essential to it.

As Australians we are free to practise our “rugged optimism”; we are free to be “authentic”, free to be “egalitarian” and free to aspire to a “fair go”.

We are free to practise our religions, and be Christian, or Muslim, or Hindu. We are free to be gay, or straight, or trans. We are free to make our own health choices about our own bodies. We are free to travel and to explore.

As Australians we are free to have our own opinions. Free to be Labor or Liberal. We are free to be left and we are free to be right. We are free to disagree. We are free to choose what we read and what we watch. We are free to make our own minds up about things.

These freedoms are unifying. And such freedom is at the core of who we are. If you need more proof, look no further than our updated national anthem. It’s right there in the second line: “For we are one and free”.

But we cannot take our unity or our freedoms for granted. We cannot be complacent. We must defend our Australian freedoms from erosion.

The Covid-19 lockdowns and “emergency health orders” took many of these freedoms away. As the pandemic becomes endemic let’s learn from the past two years. Did we give too much freedom up? Was it worth it? And let’s make sure we get all the rights back we thought we had.

Essential to this is our freedom of speech. Our freedom to question authority and to hold our leaders to account.

We should be wary of those who would deny this freedom and call for less debate, less openness, and less diversity of opinion. Instead, we should together celebrate, indulge and defend all the Aussie freedoms we cherish.

Lachlan Murdoch is co-chairman of News Corporation. This is a speech given to launch the Centre for the Australian Way of Life at the Institute of Public Affairs on Tuesday.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 30, 2022 9:26 am

Sharron
2 hours ago
As i understand it to become a juror in the NT you need to be on the electoral roll in either greater Darwin or Alice Springs, be able to read and write, have no criminal connections.
As far as i know skin colour does not come into play.
Husband

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 30, 2022 9:27 am

Case in point Kneel.
I will hear truckies proudly bragging about their Big Job towing a monster piece of kit on a specially assembled 96 wheel trailer out to a mine site or somesuch.
I think someone here might have once recounted such a tale.
Why did they go to such trouble?
Well it was cheaper to manufacture the whole kit and kaboodle offshore and employ one truck-driver, two escort vehicles and a crane driver for a day, rather than an on-site construction crew for six months (oh, make that nine).
It only becomes a problem when those last onshore jobs driving the Big Rig and escort vehicles go to furriners.

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 9:27 am

It can’t die twice, or can it? It had already drowned. Now it’s buried.

It will rise, vampire like, when the time is right.

It is the Laptop From Hell after all.

miltonf
miltonf
March 30, 2022 9:28 am

Our FBI is the most corrupt agency in the world. They’re rotten and criminal to the core.

America’s own NKVD

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 30, 2022 9:28 am

GPH56
3 hours ago
An Indigenous campaign is calling for a ban on all-white juries in cases where a police officer or other person in authority is being tried over the death of an Indigenous person

there goes the theory of a jury of your peers.

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 9:28 am

The Rasputin of Laptops.

Indolent
Indolent
March 30, 2022 9:30 am
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 30, 2022 9:33 am

Ker – Ching. Wesfarmers dividend goes into the bank.

Kneel
Kneel
March 30, 2022 9:34 am

“It can’t die twice, or can it? It had already drowned. Now it’s buried.

It will rise, vampire like, when the time is right.

It is the Laptop From Hell after all.”

It is like freedom Calli – it is the grubs trying to hold the beachball of both freedom and the laptop from hell under water. Eventually, it’ll pop to the surface, you can’t hold it under indefinitely. It wants to float, and it’s a continuous struggle to keep it under. A moments inattention and up it pops.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 30, 2022 9:35 am

It is the Laptop From Hell after all.

Coming soon:

. LAPTOP 2 – THE SHOCKENING!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 30, 2022 9:37 am

the mantra in mining and oil & gas for years has been “modularise construction offshore and minimise onshore work”.
For example, a lot of CSG well-heads arrive pre-manufactured in container sized units with the local work being to do up the four wingnuts and plug it in.

Aside from very basic inputs, the mining and oil and gas industry uses very little manufactured in Australia.

In mining, explosives would be the biggest locally made item – and even then, there is pressure to import ammonium nitrate.

In oil and gas, essentially all machine systems and tech are imported. All offshore kit is made somewhere else.

Outside of cement and a few simple chemicals, 97.3% of critical consumables (wellheads, casing, tubulars, downhole kit) are imported.

Australia has a large scale CSG industry, but it’s supporting API certified tube-mills in China and India (and other countries you might not associate with manufacturing – the Philippines, Argentina, Canadia).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 30, 2022 9:38 am

The FBI keeps on losing stuff. It’s a mystery.

I suspect if someone were to go to retrieve Weiner’s laptop from the FBI storage cupboard he might find it has been mislaid as well.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 30, 2022 9:42 am

We must steel ourselves to protect an Australian way of life

By LACHLAN MURDOCH

LOL. He’s undermining it himself by forcing News Ltd outlets to spout lies and green propaganda.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 30, 2022 9:44 am

My comment under the Oz jury article – pending:

So what is being proposed essentially, is the complete breakdown of what was achieved under Magna Carta – that people should be treated equally.

If this idea progressed to reality, the next is that a 12 person jury should, it would be argued, have seven women and five men, seeing as women are 52% of the population. Except that would over-represent women. And so on, and so on.

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 9:45 am

The Laptop is in good company.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 30, 2022 9:50 am

It seems that nobody in media world is seriously disturbed by the cynical and absolutely enormous amount of budget pork on the fork.

The usual New Idea-style ‘winners and losers’ analyses all show huge money dumps for every interest group – and essentially no losers. Presumably this is because the budget is funded by borrowing that is lost in the Covid debt mountain and happy economic growth assumptions.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 30, 2022 9:52 am

My comment under the Oz jury article – pending:

Approved!

Struth
March 30, 2022 10:01 am

Good Moaning.

So now one who I thought was sane, has blown his pooffle valve of logic as well.

Kneel, when you make a statement, and Panzy Smollett rushes in to agree and to push buttons and lies, especially when it comes to me, you might want to adjust your stance.

You complete fuckwit.

I lead a convoy to Canberra while I owned my own trucking business to protest the loss of industry and jobs outside of the transport industry.
Filled with people who were protesting the live beef cattle export industry smashing by Julia Gillard’s communist regime, the orange growers and many other industries including teachers disgusted with the education system.
It was in fact such a broad church of dissent that it was called the convoy of no confidence and to some degree caused us problems because there was so many different grizzles that the message got blurred.
So, Fuck you.

Just because I describe conditions in the transport industry does not mean I don’t care about other industries, in fact a general freight truck driver is keenly aware of the need to put freight on his truck to make money, as driving around empty doesn’t do it.
We are more aware of the need for the health of other businesses than most know of other businesses or give a rats about.
So double fuck you.

Let this be a warning.
As the truth hits you like a tonne of bricks, and you can no longer live in a state of denialism, you may feel like lashing out at all and sundry and making a goat of yourself.
Don’t do a Kneel.

Kneel
Kneel
March 30, 2022 10:01 am

“I suspect if someone were to go to retrieve Weiner’s laptop from the FBI storage cupboard he might find it has been mislaid as well.”

IIRC, Trump/WaPo have a “forensic copy” (ie, an “image” or complete duplication at the sector level) of the HDD anyway. Might not have the paperwork to make it legally a forensic copy though. Still, there is DKIM and other verification of some contents possible anyway.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 30, 2022 10:03 am

Beer in a tin can is an abomination.

Ah for the good old days when you could crush an aluminium can in your hands and the kids thought you were crushing steel.
The kids experience with came from standing on empty steel cans to see over peoples heads at the footy.

Zipster
March 30, 2022 10:14 am

For those considering an electric car,

we wont be given any choice or say in the matter

Kneel
Kneel
March 30, 2022 10:14 am

“So double fuck you.”

And I complained about the vax mandate officially as well, but it didn’t help me, did it?
So it seems that it was a whole lot of people who ignored me about jobs, industries etc and now you about vaxes and we both got screwed.
And when you have your bitch about me and the vax, you still say it’s my fault.
So double fuck you too buddy.

We should be on the same side, exactly as I said before, but we’re not and not from lack of me trying. So keep your holier than thou attitude and shove it where the sun don’t shine, dickhead.

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 30, 2022 10:17 am

FFS.
Buy a train set or something.

Struth
March 30, 2022 10:17 am

By the way, if you jabbed, stubbornly ignorant denialist types would like to read this article, properly, all the way through,
you will find they now are telling you ways in which you might be able to limit doing a Kitchens Warne, Sudden death thing

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 30, 2022 10:20 am

For those considering an electric car, dealers in the US are finding that the cost of installing chargers for EV’s is way more expensive than they thought it would be.

I still like the Aptera. As an around town shopping trolley it looks great and the battery probably isn’t large enough to stress your house electricity supply.
https://aptera.us/

Kneel
Kneel
March 30, 2022 10:22 am

By the way, if you lose your truck driver job, you might like to take to advise from the Simpsons “Cheese from discarded pizza boxes is an important source of protein”.
You’re welcome.

Struth
March 30, 2022 10:23 am

No Kneel.
Your last statement is an illogical melt down.

The facts are.
You claimed to be furious at what the government “made you do”
A sane response.
Instead od the denialism around here, it was closer to sanity than many others, like JC, who is indeed suffering badly.
Then you accuse me, for some fucked up reason of not caring for anything other than the transport industry.
Totally emotional, illogical, and with the convoy of no confidence back in 2011, totally proving the opposite, you continue on.
When Sancho comes in, and jumps in as as fast as he can to lie and attempt to stick the boot in, you should consider you’ve fucked up, and fucked up badly.
Now go and look at your last incoherent emotional outburst and see if it makes sense to you.
If it does, seek help.

Dot
Dot
March 30, 2022 10:24 am

Morrison ‘not fit to be PM’: Fierravanti-Wells

Neither of them were fit to sit in Parliament or carry the liberal or conservative flag for me.

But still, she’s a great case for sortition, she won’t be missed, she was bloody useless and entitled – as well as conceited.

One of the earlier beneficiaries of feminism. Life on easy mode.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 30, 2022 10:28 am

Quick Cat Poll.
Is Gonzalo Lira:-
.1 a Fearless Freedom Fighter? Or
.2 a Flaky Fruitcake Fraudster?

Downtick to vote .1.
Uptick to vote .2.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 30, 2022 10:33 am

Quadruple fuck the lot of youse.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
March 30, 2022 10:38 am

Mak Siccarsays:
March 30, 2022 at 9:24 am
From the Oz.

We must steel ourselves to protect an Australian way of life
The damage done to the American psyche through unrelenting attacks on its core values and the destructive rewriting of its history is very real. For Australia, it is a cautionary tale.

By LACHLAN MURDOCH

Mak Siccars – Thanks for that a good read

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 30, 2022 10:42 am

We must steel ourselves to protect an Australian way of life

Resurrect would be more appropriate. It is long gone.
No, there never has been a commitment to freedom in this country and no rule of law. The law is whatever the government deems it to be at the time.

cohenite
March 30, 2022 10:43 am

Some good memes.

Kneel
Kneel
March 30, 2022 10:45 am

“No Kneel.
Your last statement is an illogical melt down.”

Nope – just sick to death of your holier than thou attitude, your put downs of anyone who disagrees in even the tiniest amount from “the law according the struth”, and your refusal to help those who may have been hurt against their will. When you act like that, and then complain that no-one cares to support your own circumstances, you shouldn’t expect anything except the abuse and contempt I have shown you – from anyone.
If you don’t see that, you’re even more fucked up and pathetic than you have already shown yourself to be. And frankly, I’ve given you enough chances to see things from my side, but you just kept up your crap – so, yeah, I am angry with you, why wouldn’t I be? You should know better, you’ve been given the information, but it doesn’t fit with your view of the world and yourself, so you ignore it. I can forgive ignorance, but you have gone well beyond that – it’s either willful ignorance, arrogance, stupidity, sheer bloody mindedness or shit stirring. And no matter which it is, for someone like that, I wouldn’t give you the steam off my shit – you’re an oxygen thief and a waste of space.

Cassie of Sydney
March 30, 2022 10:51 am

“But still, she’s a great case for sortition, she won’t be missed, she was bloody useless and entitled – as well as conceited.”

She was virtually the only politician who spoke up for Cardinal George Pell.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
March 30, 2022 10:52 am

Better run out and get that jab!

March 28, 2022

COVID-19 vaccination data from the province of Ontario, Canada reports that the 7-day moving average of infection rates in people who are fully vaxed and boosted is 17.18 cases per 100,000 people, compared to 9.19 cases per 100,000 people in those who are not fully vaxed. These data show almost twice the rate of COVID-19 infections in the people receiving the most COVID-19 vaccines, flipping the expectations of vaccine effectiveness on its head. At long last, it appears that the observational evidence is now coming in supporting research findings of approximately one percent vaccine efficacy in the COVID-19 mRNA vaccine clinical trials: Outcome Reporting Bias in COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Clinical Trials.

Oh come on
Oh come on
March 30, 2022 10:56 am

The 2022 budget is the yin to 2014’s yang — and just as likely to come true

Annabel Crabb writes like a low-rent blogger circa 2005.

Zipster
March 30, 2022 10:57 am

“But still, she’s a great case for sortition, she won’t be missed, she was bloody useless and entitled – as well as conceited.”

Shock horror, yet another woman that goes into politics to find…. political power plays.

Shoulda stuck with the sunday night campfire kumbaya sing along.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 30, 2022 11:00 am

By the way, if you jabbed, stubbornly ignorant denialist types would like to read this article, properly, all the way through

Would have been better if someone at Epoch Times had read the article properly.

The ET piece dated 28 March, 2022 quotes:

In a November 21, 2021, tweet, cardiologist Dr. Aseem Malhotra writes:(1)
“Extraordinary, disturbing, upsetting. We now have evidence of a plausible biological mechanism of how mRNA vaccine may be contributing to increased cardiac events. The abstract is published in the highest impact cardiology journal so we must take these findings very seriously.”

Strangely enough, the ET piece fails to mention that a week later, the “highest impact cardiology journalpublished an ‘expression of concern’ warning that the abstract was plagued with errors and “in its current version may not be reliable.

Or that, on 21 December 2021, the author submitted corrections that admit that the original abstract conclusion is not actually statistically based – not the least being that the title changed from the dramatically definitive:

Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning

To the slightly more nuanced:

Observational Findings of PULS Cardiac Test Findings for Inflammatory Markers in Patients Receiving mRNA Vaccines

Funny how this shit always seems to happen with Big Statements – and that it never seems to get picked up by Trusted Bloggers.

areff
areff
March 30, 2022 11:03 am

We must steel ourselves to protect an Australian way of life. Resurrect would be more appropriate.

Just went to the bank to deposit cash in the low four figures, the proceeds from the sale of four spare wheels and tyres, plus some other stuff, belonging to a vehicle I no longer own.

I was required to provide ID and sign — then told to sign again because the bank johnny didn’t think my signature looked like the one on the back of my card.

Australia, where the sensible but supine must do as instructed by nannies and ninnies.

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 11:07 am

I’m trying to get my head around the infection vaxxed/unvaxxed figures.

And before I’m jumped on for being an insane “denier” by the usual suspects, I’m simply looking for reasons other than susceptibility due to the vaxx.

Would another reason why there is a higher representation be that the vaxxed are more out there moving around in public transport, jobs etc. since the unvaxxed have been excluded from normal life? So they aren’t as exposed to viral loads? What about age cohort? Are older people more likely to be vaxxed plus have not so effective immune systems?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 30, 2022 11:10 am

By LACHLAN MURDOCH

Talks a good game.
Has he ever not fucked things up? Think One.Tel and Channel 10.

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 11:10 am

As an aside, I find it increasing sad that I have to put some sort of rider before every time I question the prevailing narrative here.

What happened to people’s enquiring minds? Have they turned to mush?

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 11:12 am

Lachlan Murdoch is being a Wormtongue. He has an agenda, but needs to keep the horses unfrightened for a bit longer.

Those papers won’t sell themselves.

Struth
March 30, 2022 11:13 am

Oh dear, a true melt down this morning.
I’m expecting a few of these as reality bites people in the arse.

Let’s look at this with sane evaluation, because it is not unusual.

“No Kneel.
Your last statement is an illogical melt down.”

Nope – just sick to death of your holier than thou attitude, your put downs of anyone who disagrees in even the tiniest amount from “the law according the struth”, and your refusal to help those who may have been hurt against their will.

My opinion has offended certain people. Maybe I shouldn’t have an opinion, according to you, if it offends others?
Is that what you are saying?
Of course it is, but like all of you who have lost it, there is never a reason given, just that “your sick of it” etc.

You are new here, so let me give you a little tip.
In 2020 when this first happened, I argued like shit to stand against this tyranny and to not take the poison jab.
Everyone here knows the level of insanity I was up against but I was called a nanna killer, and conspiracy theorist.
Notafan went hysterical, and lost her shit.
I spent weeks of my life trying to calm those I don’t even know and think clearly.
It didn’t happen, they were lost to it so I left for a year, such was the level of fear and insanity gripping the cat.
I had to take a break for my own sanity, only returning when a few started to wake up.

Trying to help those hurt against their will, I spent months and months trying to prevent them hurting themselves only to become the evil bastard you think I am for doing so.
What have you done?

When you act like that, and then complain that no-one cares to support your own circumstances, you shouldn’t expect anything except the abuse and contempt I have shown you


I have never once complained that no one cares to support my circumstances.

Especially regarding the trucking industry.

However, I do make a point of them flashing their good “Nazi Passes” around, and going on holidays to Europe to leave the rest here making a stand do the dirty work.
And they will be fucking told.

If you don’t see that, you’re even more fucked up and pathetic than you have already shown yourself to be. And frankly, I’ve given you enough chances to see things from my side, but you just kept up your crap – so, yeah, I am angry with you, why wouldn’t I be? You should know better, you’ve been given the information, but it doesn’t fit with your view of the world and yourself, so you ignore it. I can forgive ignorance, but you have gone well beyond that – it’s either willful ignorance, arrogance, stupidity, sheer bloody mindedness or shit stirring. And no matter which it is, for someone like that, I wouldn’t give you the steam off my shit – you’re an oxygen thief and a waste of space.

And that’s just emotional outburst the rest of that.

As we can conclude, this is not the first, but one of the first outbursts of millions where the jabbed are going to make an enemy of the jew, er I mean unjabbed, to validate what they , and only themselves have done.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 30, 2022 11:17 am

As we can conclude, this is not the first, but one of the first outbursts of millions where the jabbed are going to make an enemy of the jew, er I mean unjabbed …

And good morning to you too, Mr Godwin.

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 11:20 am

Don’t blame the teller, areff. You must look like a Highly Suspicious Character.

That’s when you aren’t being a Colourful Racing Identity.

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 11:21 am

Or a Person of Interest.

Being banking and all.

Struth
March 30, 2022 11:22 am

You don’t have to be Godwin to see what’s going on here.

Calli was once sane.
I loved what she had to say, along with many others.

Now this.

Would another reason why there is a higher representation be that the vaxxed are more out there moving around in public transport, jobs etc. since the unvaxxed have been excluded from normal life? So they aren’t as exposed to viral loads? What about age cohort? Are older people more likely to be vaxxed plus have not so effective immune systems?

In just two years.

areff
areff
March 30, 2022 11:27 am

a Highly Suspicious Character

It was racism, Calli. Somehow the intelligence agents of Big Bank must know about the over-exposed snapshot of my grandma chopping wood in the backyard, circa 1961 — proof enough these days of indigeneity.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 30, 2022 11:27 am

And before I’m jumped on for being an insane “denier” by the usual suspects, I’m simply looking for reasons other than susceptibility due to the vaxx.

Would another reason why there is a higher representation be that the vaxxed are more out there moving around in public transport, jobs etc. since the unvaxxed have been excluded from normal life? So they aren’t as exposed to viral loads? What about age cohort? Are older people more likely to be vaxxed plus have not so effective immune systems?

All in theory good questions. But Ontario lifted almost all its vaxx mandates early in March, so that shouldn’t now be greatly affecting a 7 day rolling average. Don’t know about age/vaxx rates, though.

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 11:28 am

No answer. Just trolling.

Because all roads lead to the current obsession.

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 11:29 am

Thanks Tim. A sensible answer with some facts. Much appreciated.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 30, 2022 11:30 am

areffsays:
March 30, 2022 at 11:03 am

Just went to the bank to deposit cash in the low four figures, the proceeds from the sale of four spare wheels and tyres, plus some other stuff, belonging to a vehicle I no longer own.

I was required to provide ID and sign — then told to sign again because the bank johnny didn’t think my signature looked like the one on the back of my card.

Australia, where the sensible but supine must do as instructed by nannies and ninnies.

Struth
March 30, 2022 11:30 am

They’re vaxxed Calli.

FFS.
They’re vaxxed.

You can only fight insanity for a certain number of hours a day.

Back to the Ukraine, kiddies, and here’s some shiny balloons………………….

Zipster
March 30, 2022 11:30 am

Has any of the MSM covered the shooting of Russian POWs? Meanwhile this morning they found a woman who claims to have been raped by a Russian soldier.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 30, 2022 11:31 am

Strangely enough, the ET piece fails to mention that a week later, the “highest impact cardiology journal” published an ‘expression of concern’ warning that the abstract was plagued with errors and “in its current version may not be reliable.”

Yep, on the few occasions that a counter vax article sneaks into the literature, the cleanup crews go to work and get it pulled quick smart!

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 30, 2022 11:31 am

Sorry – accidentally sent before responding to areff ….It’s your own fault. Why didn’t you use the cash sensibly, like for buying chop chop?

Zipster
March 30, 2022 11:33 am

Australia, where the sensible but supine must do as instructed by nannies and ninnies.

There is no bigger nanny state on the planet. We are ruled over by a plague of bugmen.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 30, 2022 11:38 am

areffsays:

March 30, 2022 at 11:27 am

a Highly Suspicious Character

I haven’t deposited cash for a while, but I will bet there has been some recent cock-up or skullduggery which has driven it.
Possibly a dodgy claim of a deposit made to the wrong account, which was cleaned out, then claimed to be banker’s error.
Example: A little while ago I was asked to bring originals of my credentials to be sighted by a head-hunter.
What gives? At best I have provided copies or member numbers in the past.
A bit of umm-ing and ah-ing before they explained that they just put a candidate forward based on forged qualifications.
He passed interview but the employer became suspicious after a few weeks that something was amiss.
Almost invariably these over-reactions have a back story.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 30, 2022 11:39 am

You can only fight insanity for a certain number of hours a day.

What time is knock off today?

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 30, 2022 11:41 am

Yep, on the few occasions that a counter vax article sneaks into the literature, the cleanup crews go to work and get it pulled quick smart!

Same modus operandi as the Global Warming/Climate Change bullshit. They even admitted it when the East Anglia mob’s emails got distributed and that hasn’t made much difference to the scammers. Seems you *can* ” Stop the Signal”.
Now most here didn’t buy into the global warming bullshit so what’s different?

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 11:41 am

It’s pointless asking questions here. Almost time to give up.

Gab
Gab
March 30, 2022 11:44 am

“In December 2011, at the very beginning of the Syrian war, I was arrested and assaulted by extremists who accused me of being a spy. Yesterday, feeling that the situation in Ukraine tends to get worse, knowing that this process of demonizing journalists is unlikely to change, I decided — albeit with great sadness — to leave Ukraine.

Since the beginning of the war on 24th February, one journalist has been killed on average per week in Ukraine. Responsibility for these deaths was blamed on Russian troops, but we know that the chance that these professionals were killed by Ukrainians, not Russians, is very high.”

These are the words of freelance Brazilian photo-journalist André Liohn who fled Ukraine in fear of his life just five weeks into his assignment for Brazilian media outlets UOL and Folha de S.Paulo. Now safely in Poland he attests that journalists who attempt to provide balanced reporting are treated as spies and subjected to beatings, intimidation and detention by Ukrainian forces.

From The Catholic Information Hub.

areff
areff
March 30, 2022 11:44 am

like for buying chop chop?

That’s why it was an odd sum to be deposited. Broke a $50 on the way to the bank for two packets of Manchester Blue.

bespoke
bespoke
March 30, 2022 11:45 am

callisays:
March 30, 2022 at 11:10 am
As an aside, I find it increasing sad that I have to put some sort of rider before every time I question the prevailing narrative here.

Easy just stop.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 30, 2022 11:46 am

Just went to the bank to deposit cash in the low four figures, the proceeds from the sale of four spare wheels and tyres, plus some other stuff, belonging to a vehicle I no longer own. I was required to provide ID and sign — then told to sign again because the bank johnny didn’t think my signature looked like the one on the back of my card.

I have made it a habit to use cash for just about everything for years. As such I have a long history of removing large amounts of cash from the bank. If ever questioned, I say ‘yes I am burying it in the garden – I dont trust banks’

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 30, 2022 11:52 am

Speaking of forged qualifications, I had dealings with a bloke who managed to get into an NT Government department recently based on forged docs. When life became too hot there for various reasons he did a sting at a certain NT private organisation.

Eventually things caught up with him, and now the wheels of justice are turning slowly with him in the middle of it all.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 30, 2022 11:53 am

It’s pointless asking questions here. Almost time to give up.

Do you have a link to the numbers you are talking about?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 30, 2022 11:56 am

Yep, on the few occasions that a counter vax article sneaks into the literature, the cleanup crews go to work and get it pulled quick smart!

Possibly.

Fact is though that in any debate you will find degrees of lunacy at the extreme ends, and as long as you recognise yourself as being on one side rather than another there will be some people who are more destructive to the cause they clamour for. Speaking of ‘sides’ more or less puts you on a spectrum and the problem with spectra is that there are so many dimensions that a human extends into.

Take the current vaccine debate. On the side of people opposed to Covid vaccine mandates are those opposed to any mandate in principle, those who are more concerned with this vaccines being poorly tested and risks concealed, and people who think all vaccines are part of a conspiracy. Well, that Figures.

So it is not beyond the realm of possibility that someone might publish an article which, as purported, would seem to vindicate my opinions, but which after more rigorous attention turns out to be fudged. I do not assume all extremists are on the ‘other’ side. Sadly they are not.

But they are a gift for your opponents.

Vicki
Vicki
March 30, 2022 11:57 am

I have made it a habit to use cash for just about everything for years. As such I have a long history of removing large amounts of cash from the bank.

I have to say, we have started doing likewise. The question is what to do with it to maintain value of any sort. Consequently, have put significant amounts into assets we are confidant will maintain that value. We are starting to feel like preppers! Diesel tank has arrived & is full…vege garden going well…larder full….crazy stuff…..

But regarding the bank teller requiring ID for 4 figure deposit…geez….it always used to be anything over $10,000. But then, nothing is as it used to be, is it???

Oh come on
Oh come on
March 30, 2022 11:57 am

Is Gonzalo Lira:-
.1 a Fearless Freedom Fighter? Or
.2 a Flaky Fruitcake Fraudster?

My money’s on the latter.

I don’t trust Gonzalo Lira. Not one bit. I suspect he isn’t even in Ukraine anymore – notice how he no longer appears on camera. Now, he claims this is because he was threatened by Ukrainian thugs when he was in Kiev (a Russian news channel did a dodgy edit of an interview he gave and broadcast it on Russian TV, making him appear ridiculously pro-Russian and anti-Ukrainian). He says he was kicked out of Kiev, had to return to Kharkov and relocate to an undisclosed location ‘in central Kharkov’, and that’s why he won’t appear on camera, in case his background gives away his location.

But that doesn’t make a lot of sense. It isn’t difficult to set your background up so that your location can’t be identified (hell, just blurring the background would do the trick). And since then he’s turned HARD against the Zelensky regime and criticises it stridently. If the Ukrainians were pissed off about what he said before, they’re going to be apoplectic about his present stance. I don’t care how ‘undisclosed’ his location is in central Kharkov – if Ukrainian goons wanted to find him, it might take them all of half an hour to find him. Maybe less.

I believe him when he says he was threatened by Ukrainian agents after his inadvertent appearance on Russian TV, but I think it much more likely that he got the hell out of Ukraine (or was kicked out) rather than return to a place where he could be easily found. But he doesn’t want to give up his sudden relevance as ‘the man on the ground’ in the middle of a war zone, telling it like it is. So he doesn’t appear on camera – probably because he had to leave his setup in Ukraine in the process of getting the hell outta Dodge – and plays audio of air raid sirens ringing out now and again during interviews, giving him a chance to drop an ‘oh sorry that’s just another air raid alert, you get used to it when you’re in the middle of a hot war zone. By the way, did I mention I’m in central Kharkov in an undisclosed location, and I’m bravely delivering you all the truth about the Ukrainian government at considerable risk to my well-being? Only for the 50th time? Silly me, I thought it was only the 40th time. But it’s important you know.’

And that’s how you go from ‘Coach Red Pill’; low-rent, deplatformed, dirtbag manosphere hack*, to Gonzalo Lira, fearless war correspondent and geostrategic expert. Quite the reinvention. But I don’t buy it.

*I listened to a couple of his anti-woman ramblings way back when, and his takes were uniformly awful. Some of the manosphere commentators are fine – their content isn’t of interest to me but I can see it would be for others- however, Coach Red Pill sounds genuinely misogynistic and his content was primarily ‘why you shouldn’t date [insert chosen adjective here, eg English/tall/autistic/rich/ pet-owning/skinny/fat/educated /Asian/well travelled/older/redheaded/professional/etc] women’.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 30, 2022 11:59 am

callisays:

March 30, 2022 at 11:41 am

It’s pointless asking questions here. Almost time to give up.

Typical flouncing Nazi!!!!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 30, 2022 12:00 pm

Yep, on the few occasions that a counter vax article sneaks into the literature, the cleanup crews go to work and get it pulled quick smart!

So, a counter vax article with a high impact working title:

“Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning

…is submitted to a high impact journal.

And then on peer review it turns out that there is no reasonable statistical basis for the dramatic warning.

And then the author concurs there is a problem and resubmits.

Yes indeedy.
I sense the invisible hand of Schwab somewhere near all this.

Hopefully Dr Gundry has now been reunited with his children (and they have all their fingers and ears).

calli
calli
March 30, 2022 12:05 pm

Do you have a link to the numbers you are talking about?

You will have to ask Big_Nambas at 10:52 for that.

No, I’m not a flouncing Nazi. Just a tired one. All that goose stepping is wearing me out. I will take bespoke’s advice.

Eddystone
Eddystone
March 30, 2022 12:08 pm

Mid week in pictures in case it hasn’t been posted yet.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 30, 2022 12:13 pm

It’s interesting to observe people finally sick of poorly-constructed wordwalls about how this country is going to shit entirely because millions of people will not do things exactly as one person thinks they should be done, and those people’s entirely on-point responses which trigger larger, more intricate hyped-up wordwalls.

A cornucopia of ‘murder death kill’ and ‘all I did was suggest’ and ‘get a fucking clot and die you shallow cock smokers’, all because everyone didn’t pick up someone’s flag immediately and run with it.

Of particular interest is the pointing of fingers and crying ‘Emotion!’ when you can actually see the blood pressure rising, as the intensity of said wordwalls increases over the course of the day – fuelled by the intransigence of The People in not bending to one person’s will*. The props – trucks, the flag and Anzac Day have lost their meaning to the author because he uses them as trinkets. Like Bosi.

The wordwaller has hitched his star to countless wagons, including Faulty, NFA, Bosi and Palmer. Switch. Fail. Switch. Rejected. Switch. Fail. And so on.

Kneel is bang on. The heavy vehicle industry was for generations the province of chunky white boys who watched the education and retail and IT sectors become gradually overtaken by the ponzis described earlier, and didn’t say or do a goddamned thing.

The relatively new introduction of chicks into the industry, and as detailed in the masterful documentary Outback Truckers would have caused conniptions in the industry – and I bet one of the complaints would have been ‘how can we back one out on the side of the road now?’

If anything, this entire wordwalling exercise has demonstrated that at least one Australian quality remains intact. Although – as a people – we’ll bow to faceless Big Government, we won’t be told what to do by individuals waving our banners from pulpits.

*Also fuelled by Bundy (or West End) cans.

Kneel
Kneel
March 30, 2022 12:14 pm

“Struth says:
March 30, 2022 at 11:30 am

They’re vaxxed Calli.

FFS.
They’re vaxxed.”

He’s a neat freak, low-life truck driver.
FFS – a truck driver.

There’s only so many low IQ fuckwits you can deal with in one day.

See what happens when you put people in boxes instead of treating them as people?
Not nice is it?
But do carry on – no point listening to me, i got vaxxed after all.
And no point listening to you, your only skill is driving, not much intellect required for that, eh?
Sure. Whatever.

Indolent
Indolent
March 30, 2022 12:16 pm
bespoke
bespoke
March 30, 2022 12:16 pm

calli

The best kind of tired is chasing my granddaughter on her balance bike feeding her a mix of strawberries, cheese and chocolate and not having to deal with what comes next.

Life is good

Vicki
Vicki
March 30, 2022 12:19 pm

I’m trying to get my head around the infection vaxxed/unvaxxed figures.
And before I’m jumped on for being an insane “denier” by the usual suspects, I’m simply looking for reasons other than susceptibility due to the vaxx.
Would another reason why there is a higher representation be that the vaxxed are more out there moving around in public transport, jobs etc. since the unvaxxed have been excluded from normal life?

Calli, my husband and I have remained unvaxxed for COVID for these last couple of years. We live for 5 days out of eight on the farm & return to Sydney for 3 days in rotation. When at the farm we visit regional centres for groceries and farm supplies. In Sydney, again, we frequent supermarkets. During the whole of the period of mandates, we still visited (& enjoyed visits) of family and enlightened friends.

During lockdown we were still able to visit Sydney, and did so, with travel permits. Of course, during that period we were unable to shop in many department stores, attend restaurants and pubs, or get our hair cut. Since the relaxation of the mandates, we have been able to attend all of these venues. And, of course, we attended the recent Canberra rally of over 100,000 people (we were THERE & know what 100,000 people looks like en masse).

So – the point of all this is …….we have had quite a significant amount of contact with other people. Now, as I have posted on this blog many times – we have been on a regime of healthy diet and specific vitamins for over two years. The odd bit of Ivermectin on our hands when drenching cattle hasn’t gone astray either – although it only lasts for 30 days!

However, I am not cavalier about all of this. It is possibly that either my husband and I have had a mild case of COVID in the past few months. Indeed, there was an occasion that my husband exhibited some signs (& was promptly treated by me with the recommended available treatments according to the protocol of the FLCCC physicians) which may have been COVID.

So who knows? But the point about all of this – is that the unvaxxed (& we know quite a few) don’t necessarily node themselves away!!

Vicki
Vicki
March 30, 2022 12:20 pm

don’t necessarily node themselves away!!

That should have been “hide themselves away”!!!

Kneel
Kneel
March 30, 2022 12:20 pm

“…feeding her a mix of strawberries, cheese and chocolate and not having to deal with what comes next. “

When others want me to mind their younguns, I say I’ll feed them red lollies, coke and chocolate, and plenty of ’em just before they are due back. No-one seems to want me to do it, dunno why… 🙂

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 30, 2022 12:21 pm

Top Ender – since you are around you might like this tweet I saw earlier:

Drydock Dreams Games@DrydockDreams
Found a fantastic cache of Japanese vintage maps without description in Australian archives. I thought the place felt familiar. I put them together to check – Ah geez, the beautiful result!
Gotta clean that up, but: the Gazelle peninsula (Rabaul) IJA General Staff Office
#History
2:17 AM · Mar 30, 2022

If you haven’t already, look through their feed as they have lots of very nice naval photos.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 30, 2022 12:22 pm

Do you have a link to the numbers you are talking about?

calli didn’t put them up.

See here:

Big_Nambassays:
March 30, 2022 at 10:52 am
Better run out and get that jab!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 30, 2022 12:23 pm

Manchester Blue

What?

St. Ruth might be right. This country is dying. JPS Reds. I don’t care where they’re made.

Vicki
Vicki
March 30, 2022 12:24 pm

Oh, and another example, Callie:

In an incredible “leap of faith”, a few months ago we had a visit from our grandson with 9 of his 19 year old mates!!!

I forgot to add that in the last 3 months, at least, we have had quite a number of Sydney guests – mostly people of middle age. All were vaxxed – not that it matters!

will
will
March 30, 2022 12:24 pm

By LACHLAN MURDOCH

Talks a good game.
Has he ever not fucked things up? Think One.Tel and Channel 10.

ahh OneTel, great telecom rates, so accordingly I was a customer way back, they were giving it away below cost, and the Board, it seems, was never interested in regular cash flow statements. Then, all of a sudden, they ran out of money, just like that! Surprise

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 30, 2022 12:26 pm

OCO on Gonzo Lira, just upthread:

100%.

He seems to have obtained quite a lot of disciples in a relatively short time. Perhaps he’s telling (or selling) a message some people want to hear.

bespoke
bespoke
March 30, 2022 12:27 pm

Lol! Kneel That’s what I said to my boys. But her gran cleans up after my chaos.

So all good.

Frank
Frank
March 30, 2022 12:30 pm

Liberal senator Concetta Fierravanti-Wells

One thing the Russians definitely do better.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 30, 2022 12:31 pm

callisays:
March 30, 2022 at 12:05 pm

No, I’m not a flouncing Nazi. Just a tired one. All that goose stepping is wearing me out. I will take bespoke’s advice.

Don’t. Just ignore trolling responses.

John H.
John H.
March 30, 2022 12:36 pm

Dr Faustussays:
March 30, 2022 at 11:00 am
By the way, if you jabbed, stubbornly ignorant denialist types would like to read this article, properly, all the way through

Would have been better if someone at Epoch Times had read the article properly.

Good luck with that Dr. Faustus. That abstract is regularly posted here, again last night. People who post such rubbish don’t appreciate that it ruins their credibility to push this type of material as proof. If I encounter someone consistently linking to crap I stop reading them. The author of that abstract, Gundry, pops up on my youtube feed occasionally with some rubbish about nutrition and flogs his own propriety supplements. He’s a crank and a snake oil salesman.

Some people don’t care about the quality of the links they provide. So long as it suits their narrative they’ll use it as evidence to support their position and do so knowing that the majority of people never bother to check the links.

Oh come on
Oh come on
March 30, 2022 12:40 pm

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to address Australian parliament

No doubt he’ll be all hopped up on Ukrainian marching powder, as is his wont. Send this man more weapons so they can be distributed to gangsters and newly-released prisoners, or stored in an arms depot where they can be destroyed by Russian cruise missiles! Money well spent.

bespoke
bespoke
March 30, 2022 12:40 pm

Perhaps he’s telling (or selling) a message some people want to hear.

All sorts of ‘professionals’ slithered out to gain some fifteen minutes of fame, KD.

johanna
johanna
March 30, 2022 12:43 pm

calli, be kind to yourself.

Your arm has been giving you curry for a couple (?) of months, and anyone who has experienced chronic pain and discomfort knows that it can make even owners of the sunniest temperaments feel tired, discouraged and grumpy at times.

I prescribe rest and self pampering, big time. And stay away from here for a bit if it is annoying you.

Believe me, I know of what I speak! 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 30, 2022 12:43 pm

So long as it suits their narrative they’ll use it as evidence to support their position and do so knowing that the majority of people never bother to check the links.

Indeed, John H.

I note the gravitation from ‘The New World Order are putting tiny self-aware robots in vaccines’ (that line of commentary, by the way, had died out – why is that?) to ‘well now you’re all getting AIDS, so there’ and also from ‘the unvaccinated are all going to be put in death camps to die’ to ‘everyone vaccinated will die in 13 to 43 to 55 months’.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 30, 2022 12:46 pm

All sorts of ‘professionals’ slithered out to gain some fifteen minutes of fame, KD.

Some have written ‘many’ books and ‘many’ articles. Some are doctors, like Jill Biden is a doctor and Jane Caro is a doctor and Kerryn Phelps is a doctor.

Fifteen minutes of turning the cash tap on, more like it.

bespoke
bespoke
March 30, 2022 12:47 pm

I prescribe rest and self pampering

Only after making of the sandwiches for the old man though and stopping to prepare the night time feast.

Indolent
Indolent
March 30, 2022 12:47 pm

By the way, if you jabbed, stubbornly ignorant denialist types would like to read this article, properly, all the way through,
you will find they now are telling you ways in which you might be able to limit doing a Kitchens Warne, Sudden death thing

Is there any way of rubbing our political masters’ noses in this? It is direct, actual and irrefutable proof that they are literally forcing us to harm ourselves.

Kneel
Kneel
March 30, 2022 12:48 pm

“Lol! Kneel That’s what I said to my boys. But her gran cleans up after my chaos.

So all good.”

yeah, it’s funny – usually the young ones are a bit wary of me at first, being the “big scary man”. But it doesn’t take long for them to realise that at heart I am really a big softy who loves to play as much as they do, and after that it takes about 10 minutes before they are squealing in delight at the games we play. That’s when the requests for baby sitting come. Followed by said reply. And the parents never seem to be sure if I’m serious or not (of course I’m not really serious, but no need to tell them, right?)
And I really do enjoy that sort of stuff – bit of “dad” type physical play stuff is really nice, and the kids enjoy it too.
So yes, definitely all good here too.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 30, 2022 12:48 pm

The best kind of tired is chasing my granddaughter on her balance bike feeding her a mix of strawberries, cheese and chocolate and not having to deal with what comes next.

Needs more red cordial.

Oh come on
Oh come on
March 30, 2022 12:49 pm

OCO on Gonzo Lira, just upthread:

100%.

Another point of BS re: Gonzalo Lira is his constant “my sources can confirm” shtick. But when you hear what these sources are confirming, it’s clear he doesn’t have the inside track on anything much – he gets the same shit off Telegram that anyone else can access. He adds no additional value to the analysis apart from his claimed status as being ‘on the ground’ – but I doubt this is the case, as described above. Meaning he adds no additional value. He’s just another guy with an opinion. Which would be fine if that was all he claimed to be. However, he claims to be much more than that, which makes him a phoney.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
March 30, 2022 12:50 pm

Calli was once sane.
I loved what she had to say, along with many others.

Now this.

Calli is sane. You Struth I’m not so sure about.

Looking for alternative explanations for the data is a sign of a healthy mind. Cleaving to your own convictions arrived at by joining dots and having compelling intuitions, not so much.

Kneel
Kneel
March 30, 2022 12:51 pm

“Only after making of the sandwiches for the old man though and stopping to prepare the night time feast.”

You forgot: why is she out of the kitchen, and are those shoes you’re wearing? 🙂

bons
bons
March 30, 2022 12:56 pm

I had to nip down to Sydney yesterday to do something at Ultimo.
No, dropping 100 tons of coal on the front steps of their ABC was tempting, but I didn’t have a truck.
What was hilarious was all the Chinese kids flogging chop chop, and the Chinese girls flogging what I imagine was stolen or fake brand name cosmetics.
Concern over authorities was non existant apparently.

bespoke
bespoke
March 30, 2022 12:58 pm

Rule 35 for young blokes.

Fetching of the remote is sacred women’s business.

Lysander
Lysander
March 30, 2022 1:02 pm

Yikes!

https://www.perthnow.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/ricky-gervais-slams-oscars-gift-bags-containing-plots-of-land-in-scotland-c-6249036

If you were worried that Hollywood’s elite were doing it tough during the pandemic, well worry no more.

Every single Oscars nominee was gifted a goodie bag valued at $140,000 — more than most people earn in a year — and you won’t believe what was in it.

And then Oscars goes full Tony Abbott:

Nominees all received a piece of land in Scotland through Highland Titles. While the size of land has not been revealed, the title will make them a “Laird, Lord or Lady of Glencoe”.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 30, 2022 1:02 pm

areffsays:
March 30, 2022 at 11:03 am
We must steel ourselves to protect an Australian way of life. Resurrect would be more appropriate.

Just went to the bank to deposit cash in the low four figures, the proceeds from the sale of four spare wheels and tyres, plus some other stuff, belonging to a vehicle I no longer own.

I was required to provide ID and sign — then told to sign again because the bank johnny didn’t think my signature looked like the one on the back of my card.

Australia, where the sensible but supine must do as instructed by nannies and ninnies.

Banks have always had strange people running them. Years ago wife goes into our branch of Westpac in St Georges Tce for a loan for a car as the accountant said. Little johnnie bank assistant manager said ‘your husband will have to co-sign’. Red rag to a bull. Have you even looked at our account? Can I use your phone? She rang me at the office, I was down in about five minutes as our office was in Mount St. By this time she was having words with the Manager. I asked what was the balance, assistant manager goes pink, I write out a withdrawal slip then walk up the road to ANZ.

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