Open Thread – Tues 5 April 2022


Charles V, Titian, 1548

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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 5, 2022 5:14 pm

I never needed wit.

Both the below answers are applicable:

1. That’s arguable, because you have nothing else.
2. Duh.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 5, 2022 5:14 pm

That’s why I never tire Kneel.

But he does go flat very frequently…

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 5, 2022 5:21 pm

New Farm

…architecturally it’s one of the last vestiges of the gracious old city I remember, except that the bend on the river from the old powerhouse (which I remember as abandoned & derelict) to Teneriffe (all old timber wharves) has since been developed.

Still has the beautiful old buildings: unique Art Deco wonders, stately homes – mixed in with halfway houses and still ungentrified cottages between Brunswick and James.

As you say, the powerhouse has been recycled into restaurants, bars and a theatre – and the wool stores converted into wannabe boho loft appartments.

The staithes along the river went 25-odd years ago, now expensive but rather unimpressive river townhouses – with a walkway along the riverfront where the WW2 submarines and Catalinas were moored.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 5, 2022 5:22 pm

Congrats to unjabbed Queensland Cats.
Looks like Sneakers and Maximum Leader are now the only despots in Australia keeping the unvaxxed out of pubs, restaurants etc. Unfortunately they may not cave in for a while.
Sneakers was fellating himself in January about imposing Australia’s toughest vaxx restrictions, so it might be a bit hard for him to back down very soon.
And Maximum Leader was cracking a boner last year about how he was going to keep persecuting the unvaxxed till at least the end of 2022 (strangely not releasing any scientific advice on which that was based), so again he might find it difficult to backflip, even if he wanted to (which the petty vindictive little turd won’t) – and of course Victoria has the highest proportion of leftwing fascists in Australia so the political calculation may well be different here.

Lysander
Lysander
April 5, 2022 5:23 pm

At the business end, the poll finds Labor leading 53-47 in New South Wales (a swing of around 5% with an error margin of 3.5%), 56-44 in Victoria (swing of 3%, error margin of 4.1%) and 54-46 in Queensland (swing of 12.5%, error margin of 4.4%). From here on, proceed with caution: 54-46 in Western Australia (sample of 251, error margin of 6.5%), 62-38 in South Australia/Northern Territory (sample of 186, error margin of 7.3%), 64-36 in Tasmania (sample of 54, error margin of 14.0%) and 57-43 in the ACT (sample of 43, error margin of 15.3%).

duncanm
duncanm
April 5, 2022 5:26 pm

re: Musk and twitter.

Apparently, he has “extreme libertarian ideas on free speech”</em

Struth
April 5, 2022 5:26 pm

Correct. You were cloaking yourself in this country’s flag and its dead as a self-promotional exercise.

Maybe if KD looked back on his stupidity and disgusting attitude, and we all actually disobeyed back then at the start,

You mean obeying you at the start.

I think this says so much.
Sad.

Roger
Roger
April 5, 2022 5:30 pm

The staithes along the river went 25-odd years ago, now expensive but rather unimpressive river townhouses – with a walkway along the riverfront where the WW2 submarines and Catalinas were moored.

Yes, the submariners walk is a nice touch & a fitting homage to the area’s past.

I too was unimpressed by the townhouses…nice view though!

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 5, 2022 5:30 pm

Hey, is this one of you guys?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1510550645597622275

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 5, 2022 5:32 pm

Skirting the Matter of Feminism’s Culpability

A very good read, looking at how ideas about equality and equality of opportunity went haywire under the ideological guidance of post-modern feminism and its end point now of negating female existence.

Over at Quadrant.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 5, 2022 5:34 pm

the poll finds Labor leading

The voters are about to speak and then they’re going to get green-progressive rubbish up the khyber good and hard.

Labor is targeting Scott Morrison’s character to “cover up the fact” they have no policies, says LNP Senator James McGrath.

No that’s not true. Labor have lots and lots of policies. They just aren’t saying what they are because the voters don’t want any of them. And the MSM is complicit by very carefully not asking Albo any questions. He’s the invisible man.

‘Dirt machine on steroids’: Labor’s ‘grubby’ campaign against Scott Morrison (Sky News, 4 Apr)

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 5, 2022 5:36 pm

Hey, is this one of you guys?

Nope. But it does look a bit like me parking. 🙂

rickw
rickw
April 5, 2022 5:37 pm

We quite like the used syringe and dead dog look, thankyouverymuch.

You’re gunna love Melbourne then!

bespoke
bespoke
April 5, 2022 5:39 pm

Gag!

Lysander
Lysander
April 5, 2022 5:40 pm

No that’s not true. Labor have lots and lots of policies. They just aren’t saying what they are because the voters don’t want any of them. And the MSM is complicit by very carefully not asking Albo any questions.

So true Bruce!!! If you don’t think a Carbon Tax 2.0 (or by fiat) is coming, you’re a farken eejit. 😐

rickw
rickw
April 5, 2022 5:40 pm

Hey, is this one of you guys?

No. The pipe would look like a drink straw that a 3 year old has been chewing on for a hour.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 5, 2022 5:41 pm

am I The Last of the Unjabbed….

No

JMH
JMH
April 5, 2022 5:43 pm

Is anyone going to be bothered watching The Campaign Uncovered: A Peta Credlin Investigation on Sky tonight at 8 pm. I’ll give it a go but I can’t guarantee I will remain conscious to the end.

rickw
rickw
April 5, 2022 5:45 pm

Mongistan in better form today, only 75% masked on the train. To make up for the shortfall in shitness you can feel the cold and grey winter creeping in.

Winston Smith
April 5, 2022 5:45 pm

Generation ships with Isaac Arthur.

Lysander
Lysander
April 5, 2022 5:45 pm

Is anyone going to be bothered watching The Campaign Uncovered: A Peta Credlin Investigation on Sky tonight at 8 pm. I’ll give it a go but I can’t guarantee I will remain conscious to the end.

Beats watching RBT… and Newsmax have gone downhill over the last few months…

I must admit that it took me a while to notice but do you see how all MSM news at 6pm put utter tripe on their alternate channels? It’s like they’re forcing you to watch their propaganda.. Say, 7 news at 6pm OR you can go to 72,73 or 76 and watch crap. Same with 9 and 10.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 5, 2022 5:46 pm

Lysander says:
April 5, 2022 at 5:23 pm
At the business end, the poll…

As Pollbludger points out, Frydenberg’s massive pork barrel budget has been met with understandably huge cynicism.

They’ve fired the big guns, missed, and now look lost.

Sure it’s only a poll, but the gaps between the tied first pref and the 2PP ALP results again highlights the risk of getting a couple of Greens plus a couple of GetUp Greens in the Lower House – and into an Albanese Government.

Tragically, SE Queensland could quite easily deliver this shit sandwich.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 5, 2022 5:50 pm

We quite like the used syringe and dead dog look, thankyouverymuch.

You’re gunna love Melbourne then!

I haven’t been to Melbourne for nearly 10 years.
Has it improved?

calli
calli
April 5, 2022 5:50 pm

Okay Hey, is this one of you guys?

Heh. I was waiting for him to put the bucket through the ute. Excellent stuff.

Lysander
Lysander
April 5, 2022 5:51 pm

Yeah it’s pretty depressing DrF…

I don’t want to start Cat election lotto just yet (as a day in politics, particularly during an election, is a long time) but I’m currently leaning toward over 80 for Liebor.

Winston Smith
April 5, 2022 5:53 pm

Arky:

I don’t understand why Ge4many doesn’t use coal gas for heating.
They have industries that require metallurgical coal, have shit loads of coal and instead are piping gas from Russia?
Idiots.

I understand the Russians were offering the people who make the decisions about sources were enticed with greater profit margins and therefore bigger ‘productivity’ bonuses. While Russia was – in effect – doing predatory pricing to crash our fuel economy, the people who most benefited from this game helped destroy our home producers.
When Russia finally said “Suckers!” and jacked up the prices, they made up the ungained profits and the buyers of the oil/gas have banked their bonuses and gone to live in warm countries.

Zipster
April 5, 2022 5:53 pm

Olaf Scholz booed in Essen, Germany.Olaf Scholz booed in Essen, Germany.

During the speech of the German chancellor, people shouted to him: “Get lost!”, “Liar!” and “Scholz must go!”

In Germany, due to rising prices against the backdrop of anti-Russian sanctions, people began to use less heating and electricity. Meanwhile, annual inflation in the country in March reached a historical record – 7.3%.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 5, 2022 5:57 pm

Sneakers knows when restrictions on the unvaxxed go, he goes. They will be around for a while yet.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 5, 2022 5:59 pm

Cat dies because of climate change.

Charging Tesla May Have Caused Australian House Fire, Killed Family Cat (5 Apr)

The fire first started in the attached garage to a house in Southwest Sydney, police said.

A firefighter at the scene told News.au: “The fire destroyed the garage and two vehicles inside. The fire has travelled through to the house and destroyed the kitchen.”

Forensic examination of the premises is set to begin this week.

“Early reports” are suggesting that a charging Tesla may have started the blaze, News.au wrote. “A family cat has been killed and a home destroyed,” they wrote.

Nine lives aren’t enough to survive green policies.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 5, 2022 6:02 pm

It’s like they’re forcing you to watch their propaganda.

Not missing television. One year since the old one died and went to TV heaven. Not replaced.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 5, 2022 6:03 pm

You would have thought Struth would be happy today with the news about unvaxxed being able to enter cafes / pubs etc. Doesn’t that mean he can return to singing in them.

But no it is still the same old repetitive diatribe.

Having said that the next stage is to keep the pressure on about the fact people are losing their jobs for not taking Vax or booster.

Regarding Courier Mail today it appears their moderators are quite relaxed today as many comments that would normally not make it through are being approved. Will be interesting to see if the Editor comments on the mandate change. Even better if he allows comments as I think he has been out of step on most things Covid. A disgrace to journalism but a gift to Government propaganda. Good luck every seeing an article in CM mentioning average age of Covid deaths and their comorbidities.

rickw
rickw
April 5, 2022 6:03 pm

I haven’t been to Melbourne for nearly 10 years.
Has it improved?

Seismic move….. down!

I was out and about yesterday, observing how denuded of people, businesses and life it was. Then to cap it off at the traffic lights I got a performance from a shabbily dressed and desperate looking juggler, who kept dropping the balls…

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 5, 2022 6:07 pm

Socialism AND bad juggling. Not good.

will
will
April 5, 2022 6:08 pm

JMHsays:
April 5, 2022 at 4:47 pm
Re. the pro/anti statin argument. In 2015, I told my Dr. that I would no longer be taking statins. After several months of no statins, my Cholesterol reading was 7.5. I just shrugged. Not big on blood tests, I recently had one – after 7 years. Cholesterol was 6.3! How can that be? I have not changed my lifestyle nor have I altered my diet. Cholesterol finds its natural level, I believe. Besides, I don’t want my little brain to starve!

Even though my LDL is normal, my GP insists I take statins as “it stabilises the artery wall”. Not sure how true that is.

rickw
rickw
April 5, 2022 6:09 pm

Annual Victoria Police Public Sentiment Survey!

I trust that no one will spare the horses on this one!

https://engage.vic.gov.au/annual-vicpol-community-sentiment-survey-2022

will
will
April 5, 2022 6:10 pm

benefits of statins

Frank
Frank
April 5, 2022 6:10 pm

the used syringe and dead dog look

How about a fresh human turd on the sidewalk with a syringe inserted into it, sort of like a scoop of ice cream with a wafer wedged artfully for the glamour shot. Redfern takes the prize again!

Gabor
Gabor
April 5, 2022 6:15 pm

Winston Smith says:
April 5, 2022 at 1:04 pm

Thanks Bespoke, but I already have enough composite armour plate for the T34/85 I’m restoring in the Bunker and also have enough rust remover for it.

I’ll be your driver, Winston, been trained on them.
Piece of cake.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 5, 2022 6:19 pm

How about a fresh human turd on the sidewalk with a syringe inserted into it

Dunno. Sounds like art or at the very least political commentary.

Frank
Frank
April 5, 2022 6:20 pm

‘Annual Victoria Police Public Sentiment Survey!’

Q: Main safety concerns when out.

A: Other, Being beaten by police.

Indolent
Indolent
April 5, 2022 6:20 pm
rugbyskier
rugbyskier
April 5, 2022 6:20 pm

I must admit that it took me a while to notice but do you see how all MSM news at 6pm put utter tripe on their alternate channels? It’s like they’re forcing you to watch their propaganda.. Say, 7 news at 6pm OR you can go to 72,73 or 76 and watch crap. Same with 9 and 10.

9Life has two episodes of House Hunters International at news time. A combination of travelogue and real estate show. Better than watching propaganda.

Frank
Frank
April 5, 2022 6:22 pm

Sounds like art or at the very least political commentary.

The graffiti that said “I think, therefore I scam” was a personal favourite. Also the shopping trolleys up on bricks with no wheels that had been set on fire in the waste ground along Cleveland St. Almost art sometimes.

Roger
Roger
April 5, 2022 6:24 pm

I must admit that it took me a while to notice but do you see how all MSM news at 6pm put utter tripe on their alternate channels?

I’ll take utter tripe over MSM news any day or night.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 5, 2022 6:25 pm

From rickw’s link above – VikPol survey:

Are you a member of one (or more) of Victoria Police’s priority communities?
Note: seniors and young people are also priority communities for Victoria Police, however this can be determined from age.

Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander

LGBTIQ

Multicultural or multifaith

Person with a disability

Person experiencing mental health issue/s

So everyone else comes second?

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 5, 2022 6:27 pm

Even though my LDL is normal, my GP insists I take statins as “it stabilises the artery wall”. Not sure how true that is.

My dad couldn’t lift up his gun from taking statins so he gave up the medication. Since then he’s felt much better – and he’s shooting better!

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
April 5, 2022 6:28 pm

Olaf Scholz booed in Essen, Germany.

Well that’s interesting. Essen is in the industrial heartland of North Rhine-Westphalia and should be a stronghold of Scholz’s Social Democrats. I know he’s trying to ram through Impfpflicht (mandatory vaccination) through the Bundestag but if the Free Democrats cross the floor he won’t get it through.

bespoke
bespoke
April 5, 2022 6:28 pm

You’ll be disappointed when it turns out to be a P76 with a hole in the roof, Gabor.

Zipster
April 5, 2022 6:28 pm

New Omicron subvariant detected near Shanghai; Senators introduce bill to stop CCP spying
01:00 ‘Zero-case’ policy tests people’s limits: Shanghai
05:02 #ShanghaiLockdown: kids, parents separated
08:06 New Omicron subvariant detected near Shanghai
08:56 How Chinese state media describe the U.S.
10:38 Senators introduce bill to stop CCP spying
12:21 Why the Chinese regime persecutes Falun Gong

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 5, 2022 6:30 pm

Indolent.
Cases are booming in the small towns around my parts. Every event produces a cluster of positives and most don’t bother to report unless they get sit down money.

At the Debutant Ball on the weekend there were tick checks and utterly useless QR codes for all and yet the Debs managed to infect dozens in a packed hall.

Add more leaches to the toddlers and it’s bound to work this time. Trust us, we’re experts.

Roger
Roger
April 5, 2022 6:30 pm

So everyone else comes second?

There may be an upside…you don’t want to be one of VicPol’s “priority communities”/target groups.

Remember the mentally ill chap they rammed with a police car?

Gabor
Gabor
April 5, 2022 6:31 pm

bespoke says:
April 5, 2022 at 6:28 pm

You’ll be disappointed when it turns out to be a P76 with a hole in the roof, Gabor.

True, but you forget the biggest drawing card they used for the P76.
You can fit a 44 drum in the boot!!

rickw
rickw
April 5, 2022 6:32 pm

Person with a disability

Yes, I live in Victoria.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 5, 2022 6:32 pm

In Germany, due to rising prices against the backdrop of anti-Russian sanctions, people began to use less heating and electricity. Meanwhile, annual inflation in the country in March reached a historical record – 7.3%.

Hopefully there is a bit of stool inspection going on in Germany about the self inflicted wounds brought about by Die Grünen – now in government.

Back in the 1990’s, Germany had the cheapest electricity in Europe thanks to lignite and massive mine-mouth power stations. Replaced by Russian loss-leader gas to save the German environment.

I wonder what happens when I put my balls in this blender?

rickw
rickw
April 5, 2022 6:33 pm

Multicultural or multifaith

Can someone explain what this is?

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 5, 2022 6:33 pm

How about a fresh human turd on the sidewalk with a syringe inserted into it

Should win any conceptual art competition.

rickw
rickw
April 5, 2022 6:34 pm

LGBTIQ

No Super Straight?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 5, 2022 6:35 pm

True, but you forget the biggest drawing card they used for the P76.
You can fit a 44 drum in the boot!!

Did anyone ever actually try to fit a 44 gallon drum in the boot of a P76?

rickw
rickw
April 5, 2022 6:36 pm

True, but you forget the biggest drawing card they used for the P76.
You can fit a 44 drum in the boot!!

The biggest draw card is an aluminium blocked V8 that you can put in something else!

bespoke
bespoke
April 5, 2022 6:36 pm

Knowing Winston the drum will be full of headless beanie kids. Gabor.

Roger
Roger
April 5, 2022 6:40 pm

Can someone explain what this is?

Not a white Christian.

Indolent
Indolent
April 5, 2022 6:40 pm

Indolent.
Cases are booming in the small towns around my parts. Every event produces a cluster of positives and most don’t bother to report unless they get sit down money.

At the Debutant Ball on the weekend there were tick checks and utterly useless QR codes for all and yet the Debs managed to infect dozens in a packed hall.

Add more leaches to the toddlers and it’s bound to work this time. Trust us, we’re experts.

It all makes sense once you understand that the point is not to stop the virus, it’s to get the jab into everyone’s arm.

Frank
Frank
April 5, 2022 6:43 pm

Multicultural or multifaith

The first is biracial, the second is more of a problem. It is probably like being gender fluid but with your sense of reality instead. Hope this helps.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 5, 2022 6:45 pm

Winston is so full flavoured and best enjoyed by the cement pond.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx8XeGHMRto

132andBush
132andBush
April 5, 2022 7:09 pm

calli says:
April 5, 2022 at 1:51 pm
Faustus, they’re struggling to get shelves packed here. Possibly for the same reason. The store managers are out doing the work that casual staff once did.

Someone warming a comfy office chair didn’t quite think this garbage through.

My youngest son, just turned 16, was “terminated “ by Woollies from his casual job because “vax”.

Still has his other one at Mitre 10 though.

Quite proud of him as he’s had to put up with no end of shit at school as well as losing the job.
Which is why the coalition will never get a vote from him, his siblings and parents again, ever.

132andBush
132andBush
April 5, 2022 7:11 pm

The biggest draw card is an aluminium blocked V8 that you can put in something else!

Like a ski boat. 🙂

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 5, 2022 7:12 pm

Once helped fit a 44 gallon barrel of beer in a P76. Room left one either side so a 44 gallon drum probably would have worked.

Rabz
April 5, 2022 7:16 pm

Remember the mentally ill chap they rammed with a police car?

Yep, that was several minutes before they chased him down and kerb stomped him.

Roger
Roger
April 5, 2022 7:17 pm

I note the budget set aside $20m+ to develop a business case for Brisbane hosting the 2032 Olympics.

Shouldn’t that have been done before Brisbane nominated?

Clown world.

132andBush
132andBush
April 5, 2022 7:18 pm

Gez,
Any idea what the package on offer would be in your neck of the woods for a very experienced and competent dry land manager/2IC
Have been quoted some excellent ones up this way.

MatrixTransform
April 5, 2022 7:21 pm

What?

LoL … all so quick to judge

y’all mouth off about struth and your positionality

youse listen but cannot hear

and youse talk and say nothing

this is why struth is right.

feelthebern
feelthebern
April 5, 2022 7:23 pm

So how much money has Australian funnelled in to US defence contractors pockets today?

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 5, 2022 7:23 pm

Apparently Calwell High in the ACT is not the place to be:

In the letter, banning some students from returning to school “unless for the purposes of a pre-arranged school excursion”, the workplace safety regulator said that while its inspectors were on campus, they witnessed a school fire alarm activate and students ignoring teacher requests, wandering in and out and classrooms.

While waiting for ACT Fire and Rescue to give the all-clear as a result of the fire alarm, one surveyor said he witnessed a staff member approach another staff member and hand her half a pair of steel scissors.

“This staff member said, ‘One of the students was wandering around the hallway with this’,” the inspector wrote in their report.

The surveyor also said he spoke to a teacher who had been assaulted by a student the previous week, which resulted in a dislocated shoulder, several broken teeth, welts to the teacher’s lower arm and bruising to their back.

Other alleged incidents identified in the WorkSafe ACT review included a staff member locking themselves in the cupboard and crying uncontrollably, “a growing number of student mobs forming and displaying a pack mentality to physically target and assault other students”, and fire extinguishers being used as weapons by students.

ABC

bespoke
bespoke
April 5, 2022 7:24 pm

Hi Matrix

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 5, 2022 7:30 pm

132andBush says:
April 5, 2022 at 7:18 pm
Gez,
Any idea what the package on offer would be in your neck of the woods for a very experienced and competent dry land manager/2IC
Have been quoted some excellent ones up this way.

I really don’t know Bush but heard the other day that qualified experienced farm workers around Horsham were offered $70-80 an hour and the positions unfilled.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 5, 2022 7:35 pm

Speaking of La Nina…those housing developments approved on western Sydney’s flood plain, would they be mostly after Prof. Flim Flammery’s 2007 pronouncement of permanent drought doom?

Roger been happening for eons. I mentioned recently that Townsville developer Lancini lobbied with others to have the present suburb of Idalia rezoned. He made a killing off commercial real estate and some other mob made a motza off residential. Lancini then had the hide to chide insurers after the 2019 floods to pay up.

Certain to be rinsed and repeated all over this land…

Keith Forwheels
Keith Forwheels
April 5, 2022 7:37 pm

am I The Last of the Unjabbed….

No… few more of us Mohicans still out there

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 5, 2022 7:39 pm

I really don’t know Bush but heard the other day that qualified experienced farm workers around Horsham were offered $70-80 an hour and the positions unfilled.

Come a long way since my late father was interviewing a prospective farmhand and asked what experience he had had , working on a farm.

“(A certain C.E.S.) said any bloody fool could work on a farm.”

Cassie of Sydney
April 5, 2022 7:39 pm

“So everyone else comes second?”

Yes. This is identity politics. Across the West today there’s active discrimination towards the majority, that is people who are of white, Anglo-saxon, European heritage, and if you’re white Anglo-Saxon male then you’re completely stuffed. I call it creeping apartheid.

calli
calli
April 5, 2022 7:47 pm

LoL … all so quick to judge

Yes. Yes I was. Shock loosened the keyboard.

Did anyone notice who didn’t say a word? I did.

Kudos.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 5, 2022 7:47 pm

Yes. This is identity politics. Across the West today there’s active discrimination towards the majority, that is people who are of white, Anglo-saxon, European heritage, and if you’re white Anglo-Saxon male then you’re completely stuffed. I call it creeping apartheid.

It’s slowly turning me into a white supremacist.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 5, 2022 7:48 pm

Scott Ritter says Russia knows what those Frenchmen were doing in Azovstal and they will let Macron sweat.
Macron has called for Humanitarian intervention to get his guys out of there, so they’re likely to be doing embarrassing things.

calli
calli
April 5, 2022 7:52 pm

But I did award a 10/10.

Withdrawn.

The Performance Art trophy remains in other hands.

cohenite
April 5, 2022 7:52 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
April 5, 2022 7:53 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN7o-ThhFfY&t=7839s
Scott Ritter at 2:11;45:

Australia is a meaningless Country against China.
I don’t know why Australia thinks it has any military credibility whatever.
It has none.

MatrixTransform
April 5, 2022 8:03 pm
cohenite
April 5, 2022 8:03 pm

Actually approved what sheridan was saying on bolta tonight about Australia’s defence (sic): the history of Australian defence in terms of equipment is arguably the most corrupt bureaucratic fuck up ever. Sheridan says simply more planes and thousands of land based missile installations are the answer which could be done for the cost of the cancellation of the frog sub. Turdball should be keel-hauled.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
April 5, 2022 8:03 pm

am I The Last of the Unjabbed….

There are a lot more of us around than you’d think from MSM coverage.

NT scrapped vax passports today, effective immediately. Had lunch at the Cas Club with the girls for the first time in ages. Now we just need to get rid of the vax mandates for workers.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 5, 2022 8:05 pm

More Ritter:
On AUKUS at 2:12;20:

If the UK sends it’s fleet into the South China Sea it’s gonna lose all it’s ships.
That’s just a statement of fact.

Bluey
Bluey
April 5, 2022 8:05 pm

dover0beachsays:
April 5, 2022 at 7:27 pm
I keep hearing that NATO ‘advisors’ (incl. French) are also holed up in Azovstal factory in Mariupol. Those helicopters recently shot down appeared to be tasked with their extraction. Very curious.

Think you’ve seen some of the same rumors I have. Like the two captured were french intelligence. Could be very embarrassing

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 5, 2022 8:06 pm

Actually approved what sheridan was saying on bolta tonight about Australia’s defence (sic)

Sheridan has a bee in his bonnet – he says that money spent on tanks is wasted.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 5, 2022 8:12 pm

More Ritter:
2:06;45:

The West is powerless to stop a Chinese attack on Taiwan

For Scott Ritter’s military credentials, see the beginning of the interview, where he’s asked to introduce himself.

Frank
Frank
April 5, 2022 8:14 pm

am I The Last of the Unjabbed….

It is about one in twenty so not that uncommon.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 5, 2022 8:16 pm

I keep hearing that NATO ‘advisors’ (incl. French) are also holed up in Azovstal factory in Mariupol
I doubt that the Chechens are in the prisoner taking mood.

bespoke
bespoke
April 5, 2022 8:21 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
April 5, 2022 at 8:03 pm

One of few trying to get unified IOT, only luke warm on the push as it will be google calling the shots.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 5, 2022 8:21 pm

It is about one in twenty so not that uncommon.

According to the MainScreamMedia, which lies about everything all the time.
Are 19 out of every 20 Australians mindlessly obedient?
I has ma doots.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 8:28 pm

Franksays:

April 5, 2022 at 8:14 pm

am I The Last of the Unjabbed….

It is about one in twenty so not that uncommon.

I’ve heard reports that the vax stats are fudged, and the true vaxxed percentage in rural Queensssland is as low as 30%.
Which, if true, puts the unjabbed in the majority.
Not special.

Arky
April 5, 2022 8:32 pm

Get that?
He is both compliant and special.
What a fuckhead.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 5, 2022 8:33 pm

Scott Ritter @ 2:10;34:

Biden doesn’t want to be in Europe.
The last place the American Military wanted to go is Europe.
We were actually looking at drawing down so we could go to the Pacific.
And … now … Biden is married to Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN7o-ThhFfY&t=7839s

John H.
John H.
April 5, 2022 8:40 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
April 5, 2022 at 8:06 pm
Actually approved what sheridan was saying on bolta tonight about Australia’s defence (sic)

Sheridan has a bee in his bonnet – he says that money spent on tanks is wasted.

This is what we need. The USA never built the missile because they feared it escalate the arms race to ridiculous lengths, which is comical given the existing escalation. The cruise missile didn’t have to drop a bomb, the radiation from the exhaust is damage enough. It has been rumoured that the Russian nuclear accident a few years ago was due to an attempt to build a similiar device.

We can’t defend ourselves with conventional weapons. Sheridan should know that.

PROJECT PLUTO: THE MOST INSANE MISSILE AMERICA EVER BUILT

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 5, 2022 8:43 pm

Ed Casesays:
April 5, 2022 at 7:48 pm
Scott Ritter says Russia knows what those Frenchmen were doing in Azovstal and they will let Macron sweat.
Macron has called for Humanitarian intervention to get his guys out of there, so they’re likely to be doing embarrassing things.

Ritter is a spook of long standing.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 5, 2022 8:46 pm

cohenitesays:
April 5, 2022 at 8:03 pm
Actually approved what sheridan was saying on bolta tonight about Australia’s defence (sic): the history of Australian defence in terms of equipment is arguably the most corrupt bureaucratic fuck up ever. Sheridan says simply more planes and thousands of land based missile installations are the answer which could be done for the cost of the cancellation of the frog sub. Turdball should be keel-hauled.

The Froggie Tadpoles have been cancelled.

Add in a widespread network of militia trained to defend their local region, and some ready reaction land forces to support them, and he is getting somewhere.

Helen
Helen
April 5, 2022 8:48 pm

benefits of statins

read Lipitor, thief of memory

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 8:48 pm

Ritter is a spook of long standing.

Of the last fifty accusations of “spook” made here, that one is the only one which comes close to being correct.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 5, 2022 8:49 pm

Ed Casesays:
April 5, 2022 at 8:05 pm
More Ritter:
On AUKUS at 2:12;20:

If the UK sends it’s fleet into the South China Sea it’s gonna lose all it’s ships.
That’s just a statement of fact.

I doubt that Ritter used the slangy word “gonna”.

That’s just a statement of fact.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 5, 2022 8:51 pm

Timothy Neilson says: pril 5, 2022 at 5:30 pm

Hey, is this one of you guys?

All I could think of was Ace Ventura saying
Heeeelike a glovvvvvvvvve!

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 5, 2022 8:58 pm

More Ritter [on Taiwan, which is going to be reunified with China]:
@ 2:06;40:

10,00 US Troops in South Korea are purely a tripwire.
If we send 400,000 Troops to Taiwan, do you think orth Korea are going to sit there and say
“Yeah, we’re not gonna do anything …”
To get 400,000 Troops to Taiwan, it’ll never happen.
Why?
Because those 400,000 Troops are earmarked for Korea.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 5, 2022 8:58 pm

If the UK sends it’s fleet into the South China Sea

Why would the Royal Navy be in the South China Sea?

Mr Ritter? Ed?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 5, 2022 9:00 pm

At the Debutant Ball on the weekend there were tick checks and utterly useless QR codes for all and yet the Debs managed to infect dozens in a packed hall.

I’d be very disappointed to hear that that hadn’t happened.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 9:01 pm

Reminders of past assertions and hyper-bowl can be awkward.

132andBush
132andBush
April 5, 2022 9:01 pm

I really don’t know Bush but heard the other day that qualified experienced farm workers around Horsham were offered $70-80 an hour

2IC/overseer position just filled not far from here was $120k +excellent house and utilities plus vehicle (private use as well as work).

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 5, 2022 9:01 pm

At the Debutant Ball on the weekend there were tick checks and utterly useless QR codes for all and yet the Debs managed to infect dozens in a packed hall.

Ticks and infections at the Deb. Nothing’s changed then.

132andBush
132andBush
April 5, 2022 9:04 pm

I’ll say it again.

Special Ed is a random word generator/troll AI.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 5, 2022 9:06 pm

Helen Davidson (nmrn)says:
April 5, 2022 at 8:03 pm
am I The Last of the Unjabbed….

There are a lot more of us around than you’d think from MSM coverage.

NT scrapped vax passports today, effective immediately. Had lunch at the Cas Club with the girls for the first time in ages. Now we just need to get rid of the vax mandates for workers.

One and a half cheers for the NT government.

Still an unperson here under Maximum Leader’s rules.
Work offered to send me to a conference in Sydney. WOOHOO!!! But I checked the details. It’s at Crown Sydney and their sanctimonious “safety” policy demands all patrons be vaxxed.
Can anyone imagine Frank Packer or Kerry Packer foregoing a quid in order to virtue-signal?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 9:08 pm

132andBushsays:

April 5, 2022 at 9:04 pm

I’ll say it again.

Special Ed is a random word generator/troll AI.

And he’s not even in the top three word salad guys here.

feelthebern
feelthebern
April 5, 2022 9:11 pm

Dover, from your post earlier in the evening, are there accusations of NATO forces being caught in the middle of of Russian/Ukraine fight fight ?

Winston Smith
April 5, 2022 9:15 pm

Doc Faustus:

CHO, Lex Luthor, said the proportion of people that had been vaccinated no longer made the mandate a “public health benefit”.

But the legislation remains.
So they can go root their collective boots.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 5, 2022 9:19 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
April 5, 2022 at 7:21 pm
What?

LoL … all so quick to judge

y’all mouth off about struth and your positionality

youse listen but cannot hear

and youse talk and say nothing

this is why struth is right.

So says Matrix, loyally rushing in to defend Struth’s I was was deferred twice / I was deferred / I was not deferred moment.

Struth said this at 3:21PM:

See Kneel, I was coerced into taking it too, petal

Which by by 4:41PM, he was rushing to cover up with this:

I’m not jabbed, by the way.
Yes I was coerced as well.

So, if your righteous and beloved Struth was coerced into taking the jab, but somehow (for the sake of his audience) actually wasn’t, but was still ‘coerced,’ what does that make him?

Either way, it makes him a lying stooge grandstanding at people for effect. With other lying stooges trying to cover for him, too.

JC
JC
April 5, 2022 9:19 pm

Russia/Putin are/is totally fucked. The story I read is that the Russians have lost around 600 tanks. That’s a lot for an economy the size of Portugal. 🙂

Winston Smith
April 5, 2022 9:20 pm

Rex Anger:

You’ll need a co-driver to work the gearstick on that thing, if you’re going with the stock transmission. It’s just out of reach of the driver, and sits between the two.

Nah. I had an automatic transmission put in.

(Is that a stench of poofery in the air?)
🙂

cohenite
April 5, 2022 9:21 pm

Malcolm Abbott pleads guilty to murdering his partner who was a prominent anti-domestic violence campaigner

The lady was a 3rd nations. No mention of the ancestory of the grub. Which says a lot.

calli
calli
April 5, 2022 9:24 pm

In context:

See Kneel, I was coerced into taking it too, petal.
So were thousands of Nurses and teachers and people of every industry and jobs everywhere.
people who needed to see dying relatives.

English is my first language. The statement is quite plain. I can’t see any other interpretation, even sarcasm.

It is either true or it is a lie.

Yes, I commented. Because I believed it to be true. Stupid me.

Winston Smith
April 5, 2022 9:25 pm

Damn, I forgot to add:

Also, my gunnery skills are reasonably decent. And any tactics I have forgotten I can brush up on fairly quickly… ?

From Guderians book, “Go where the water flows” will keep you out of most trouble.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 5, 2022 9:27 pm

From the Brisbane Times below – can only see these two paras as not a subscriber. The 2nd para only relates to the hospitality workers. Obviously unvaxxed teachers and health workers can now go into a hospitality venue and hospitality workers no longer have to be vaxxed.

However the main issue for health workers and teachers is the mandates to have 2 or 3 jabs or lose their jobs. You wont see the CHO being asked how many teachers and health workers have been lost due to mandates.

I think the CHO Qld is a seemingly nice guy with a good CV. However he has been given an easy run by the press who have never challenged him in any aspect. The lack of any information about agers and comorbidities is clearly becuase does not help the scare campaign or the get vaxxed narrative.

“Groups of Queensland teachers, health workers and hospitality staff challenging vaccine rules have lost their legal bid demanding an explanation from the Chief Health Officer for the mandates.

However, changes announced by the Premier could render the case brought by the hospitality workers pointless, with restrictions set to ease in pubs, clubs, cafes and restaurants from April 14”.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 5, 2022 9:29 pm

Nah. I had an automatic transmission put in.

Smart cookie. 🙂

Also, did you find a newer power pack? The originals were reputed to only be good for about 50 hours’ running before teardown and replacement was necessary. Though that could have just been the earlier T-34/76 models being pumped out up to 1943…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 5, 2022 9:30 pm

The lady was a 3rd nations. No mention of the ancestory of the grub. Which says a lot.

He spoke to her in Arrernte, and lived with her in one of the town camps…

John H.
John H.
April 5, 2022 9:35 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
April 5, 2022 at 8:58 pm
If the UK sends it’s fleet into the South China Sea

Why would the Royal Navy be in the South China Sea?

Mr Ritter? Ed?

Months ago it was in the South China Sea together with the USA fleet\s and a few other nations. How does Ritter know the Royal Navy would be destroyed in a conflict? Until such time as we actually see China in a serious military fight we don’t know how good their military is. It barks a lot but hasn’t bitten anyone. Might be a bat rather than a dragon. Countries like to make threats. An example of that was Russia recently showing off its new stealth fighter, looks like an F 35 but with an under the nose intake like the F 16. Much noise about it, all silvery and looking potent. It was a wooden mock up. They don’t even have a prototype flying. They can’t even afford to buy enough SU 57’s to make a squadron. Nations often overstate their capacity and underestimate the enemy. I thought the current ruckus would be an obvious object lesson on that issue.

JC
JC
April 5, 2022 9:35 pm

Dover

Just out of curiosity, what would you think would happen if the shoe was on the other foot? Let’s say the US had attacked a friendly country to Russia- do you think Russia would have aided the ally against the American brutes?

MatrixTransform
April 5, 2022 9:37 pm

bespokesays:
April 5, 2022 at 8:21 pm

We know some people in Woollongong who took the Lora and stuck it up an rPi but they did it in a way that made the rPi into Building Automation translator using all our standard protocols and more. We are deploying their stuff nation-wide. Nube io, Clever people.

also, have you heard of Helium?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 5, 2022 9:41 pm

struth’s I was was deferred twice / I was deferred / I was not deferred moment

That’s pretty good.

‘People all over the country were conscripted, sort of.’

Months of fun ahead. Looking forward to the next wordwall, live from the Parrot’s Beak.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 5, 2022 9:44 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
April 5, 2022 at 8:58 pm
If the UK sends it’s fleet into the South China Sea

Why would the Royal Navy be in the South China Sea?

Mr Ritter? Ed?

It’s the Singapore Strategy. Dickless has just heard about it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 5, 2022 9:44 pm

The lady was a 3rd nations. No mention of the ancestory of the grub. Which says a lot.

Lengthy record of prison terms for crimes involving domestic violence, including manslaughter..

JC
JC
April 5, 2022 9:45 pm

Months ago it was in the South China Sea together with the USA fleet\s and a few other nations. How does Ritter know the Royal Navy would be destroyed in a conflict? Until such time as we actually see China in a serious military fight we don’t know how good their military is. It barks a lot but hasn’t bitten anyone. Might be a bat rather than a dragon.

JohnH

Let me say this. No nation with a full-on authoritarian government has a decent military. It just doesn’t work as I think you need people able to think on their feet and not be worried that they and their families will be shot if they can’t produce the victory.

The US military held Afghanistan with around 5000 troops and the place immediately fell apart when they left. Top down regimes do not allow for improvised strategies created b y the ground commanders when circumstances change. The western military appears to be incredibly flexible – possibly all taught by the US.

Indolent
Indolent
April 5, 2022 9:46 pm

Conflict of interest is an understatement. We’ve heard most of it before, but it’s still staggering to see it all laid out.

WATCH THE DOTS CONNECT

JC
JC
April 5, 2022 9:47 pm

Musk is such fucking great value. Recently he tweeted that he didn’t believe he was anywhere near the richest man in the world. He suggested Putin was.

What a Will Smith Slap.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 5, 2022 9:48 pm

JCsays:
April 5, 2022 at 9:19 pm
Russia/Putin are/is totally fucked. The story I read is that the Russians have lost around 600 tanks. That’s a lot for an economy the size of Portugal. ?

If Ukraine made the claim, discount it by 50%. If Russia announced it officially, increase the total by 50%.

Zipster
April 5, 2022 9:48 pm

benefits of statins

read Lipitor, thief of memory

It was for this reason I was reluctant to use statin to cure long covid. However the long covid use of statin is generaly limited to 4-6 weeks. Since our illustrious government have done nothing other than issue a few grants for industry to look into the matter. 4-6 weeks of statin to get rid of long covid is a risk worth taking.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 5, 2022 9:49 pm

Labor attaches strings to Indigenous voice referendum vow
Exclusive
Greg Brown
National Correspondent
@gregbrown_TheOz
26 minutes ago April 5, 2022
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Labor will not hold a referendum on an Indigenous “voice to parliament’’ in its first term in office unless it is confident of securing a victory.

Opposition spokeswoman for Indigenous Australians Linda Burney told The Australian Labor will take a “voice to parliament” to a referendum before creating the Indigenous advisory body in legislation.

She said an Albanese government would likely reconvene delegates from the First Nations National Constitutional Convention, which endorsed the Uluru Statement from the Heart in 2017, within the first year of a Labor government.

The 250 Indigenous representatives who formulated the idea for a constitutionally enshrined voice would be asked to provide input on a final model that would be taken to the public.

Ms Burney said the aspiration was to hold a referendum within the first term of government. But she warned that the ambition outlined in the Uluru Statement may never eventuate if it was rejected in a referendum.

“The logic has always been in the first term of a Labor government, but you don’t have a referendum if you don’t think you are going to win it,” Ms Burney said.

“I think it will be held in the first term, personally. But we have always said that we will have a referendum when we believe it is most winnable. If a referendum is lost then the ¬momentum would be very difficult to sustain.”

Ms Burney said the “preference” would be to receive bipartisan support for the “yes” case, but “if that is not forthcoming then that is not a reason to not have a referendum”.

She said a Labor government would “definitely” create a Makarrata commission in its first term, which would oversee treaty making. The Labor position is in line with that of Indigenous leader Noel Pearson, who argued the body – which would advise parliament on policies impacting Indigenous people – should not be created in legislation before it is enshrined in the Constitution.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 9:50 pm

I don’t know what to believe anymore.
Next thing we will be told that trans Nullabor trucks aren’t crewed by eight Indians, each with their own hole in the floor.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 5, 2022 9:51 pm

JCsays:
April 5, 2022 at 9:35 pm
Dover

Just out of curiosity, what would you think would happen if the shoe was on the other foot? Let’s say the US had attacked a friendly country to Russia- do you think Russia would have aided the ally against the American brutes?

They did in the country that must not be mentioned, lest a miserable ghost appear.

JC
JC
April 5, 2022 9:51 pm

B John

I went to dinner with a pal who told me the source was a reliable twitter account. I forget who. It is believable though because of the high tech equipment the Americans are providing especiall in the anti-tank sphere.

Arky
April 5, 2022 9:53 pm

If Ukraine made the claim, discount it by 50%. If Russia announced it officially, increase the total by 50%.

..
Independently confirm actual losses, which are at the moment at least 425 tanks lost.
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 9:54 pm

Scott Ritter had his 15 minutes more than twenty years ago.
Looks like he keeps trying to kick-start it every few years or so.

John H.
John H.
April 5, 2022 9:54 pm

JCsays:
April 5, 2022 at 9:45 pm
Months ago it was in the South China Sea together with the USA fleet\s and a few other nations. How does Ritter know the Royal Navy would be destroyed in a conflict? Until such time as we actually see China in a serious military fight we don’t know how good their military is. It barks a lot but hasn’t bitten anyone. Might be a bat rather than a dragon.

JohnH

Let me say this. No nation with a full-on authoritarian government has a decent military. It just doesn’t work as I think you need people able to think on their feet and not be worried that they and their families will be shot if they can’t produce the victory.

The US military held Afghanistan with around 5000 troops and the place immediately fell apart when they left. Top down regimes do not allow for improvised strategies created b y the ground commanders when circumstances change. The western military appears to be incredibly flexible – possibly all taught by the US.

JC,

There recently was a war game exercise between Thailand and China. The Chinese sent their J-15 fighters(Russian SU 27 copies) which are very capable and Thailand sent the latest Gripen fighters(lightweight and highly capable Swedish fighters). The J-15s easily won the within visual range fights and the Gripens easily won the beyond visual range fights. A key criticism of the Chinese fighter pilots is that they were too robotic in their responses and didn’t co-ordinate very well. You are correct. BTW with the possible exception of the F 22 any modern fighter in a dogfight with a J-15 is going to have a very hard time of it.

There is another huge problem with the Chinese military: rampant corruption. That destroys morale. Morale is a huge factor in war.

Regarding the within visual range fights. No fighter pilot with a modicum of common sense will encourage a dogfight. Modern short range missiles with helmet directed sighting are extremely difficult to evade and spoof.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 9:55 pm

They did in the country that must not be mentioned, lest a miserable ghost appear.

Not … not … the Land of Pho?

Winston Smith
April 5, 2022 9:56 pm

Rex Anger:

Also, did you find a newer power pack? The originals were reputed to only be good for about 50 hours’ running before teardown and replacement was necessary. Though that could have just been the earlier T-34/76 models being pumped out up to 1943…

The engine wasn’t supplied when I got it, but I discovered a gas turbine engine sitting unattended one day and it fitted into the engine bay quite nicely.
Goes really well, but keeps launching tracks into geostationary orbit if you plant it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 9:56 pm

I tell you who is a spook.
Gonzalo Lira.

Figures
Figures
April 5, 2022 9:58 pm

Groups of Queensland teachers, health workers and hospitality staff challenging vaccine rules have lost their legal bid demanding an explanation from the Chief Health Officer for the mandates.

Of all the evil, loathsome pieces of shit who’ve come to the fore the past two years – journalists, health bureaucrats, doctors, politicians – judges are by far the worst. Not one has said anything publicly about lockdowns or vax mandates and every one of them has ruled against every standard legal principle since the Magna Carta to enable governments to force these poisons into people.

Just like greenies should have their electricity shut off, all judges should be force vaccinated 50 times each day. When those need to be replaced, there should be a constitutional amendment that says only unvaxed people can ever become judges.

JC
JC
April 5, 2022 10:00 pm

I don’t know what to believe anymore.
Next thing we will be told that trans Nullabor trucks aren’t crewed by eight Indians, each with their own hole in the floor.

Have you asked Katter. Today, I was surprised to learn Katter had no view on the question I asked him. I asked if Bob had a view on whether Germany and Russia would form an alliance in the next decade.

Dear JC

Thank you for taking the time to write to Bob. Your correspondence is appreciated and has been noted.

Bob is keeping a close eye on what is going on with Russia. Bob does not have any views on whether Germany and Russia will form an alliance at present.

Again, we thank you for your correspondence.

Kind regards,

Electorate Officer

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 5, 2022 10:00 pm

No fighter pilot with a modicum of common sense will encourage a dogfight.

Unless he is absolutely certain he holds the advantage at the merge.

And the J-15/Su-27 family of aircraft were built for that kind of fight. They were designed to outfight the F-15, after all.

JC
JC
April 5, 2022 10:00 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
April 5, 2022 at 9:56 pm

I tell you who is a spook.
Gonzalo Lira.

and not Percy Pound?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 5, 2022 10:01 pm

Gonzalo Lira.

Total flamer. The dating coach thing’s a decoy.

Zipster
April 5, 2022 10:02 pm

Until such time as we actually see China in a serious military fight we don’t know how good their military is

It actually doesn’t matter how shit its military is, china will use overwhelming numbers to win. This is what it is furiously working on now, building up capability to have overwhelming numbers and a strategic nuclear force to counter the US.

I have written about this before but the chinese mentality is one of revenge for the perceived century of humiliation by Japan and the West. Taiwan is seen as the ultimate test to humiliate the West. (ignoring the current biological warfare and economic warfare that has been taking place, neither of which it can be open about)

I haven’t stockpiled my CBRN gear for fun. I am also serious thinking about buying a Tesla, because when the war starts we will have zero fuel for possibly years.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 5, 2022 10:02 pm

Just like greenies should have their electricity shut off, all judges should be force vaccinated 50 times each day. When those need to be replaced, there should be a constitutional amendment that says only unvaxed people can ever become judges.

Go to bed, Chad Thun-derp-brain.

Defeating fascism by becoming fascist defeats the purpose. It just leaves you as the supporters of tyranny, rather than opposing it.

Indolent
Indolent
April 5, 2022 10:06 pm

Talking of Gonzalo Lira –

Big Tech Censorship

This one is only 5 minutes but very clear and well put.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 5, 2022 10:06 pm

It actually doesn’t matter how shit its military is, china will use overwhelming numbers to win.

Well they’d better have overwhelming logistic support, because that’s one of the reasons 145,000,000 Russians can’t take and hold a couple of Ukrainian provinces that actually want to secede.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 10:07 pm

JCsays:

April 5, 2022 at 10:00 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
April 5, 2022 at 9:56 pm

I tell you who is a spook.
Gonzalo Lira.

and not Percy Pound?

Yep.
Him too.
Along with Dimitri Drachma, Pedro Peso, Kevin Kroner and Arfur Crown.
All spooks.

JC
JC
April 5, 2022 10:10 pm

You mean Lars Kroner, surely?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 10:13 pm

Defeating fascism by becoming fascist defeats the purpose. It just leaves you as the supporters of tyranny, rather than opposing it.

Quite so Rex.
Kneel mentioned earlier about personal medical autonomy.
That is, the right to refuse a medical treatment without fear of coercion to take it.
The opposite also holds true.
The right to agree to a medical treatment without fear of coercion to refuse.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 10:15 pm

JCsays:

April 5, 2022 at 10:10 pm

You mean Lars Kroner, surely?

No.
And stop calling me Shirley.
Do you mean as in, “Can you buy me a coffee? I’m down to my Lars Kroner”?

Franx
Franx
April 5, 2022 10:16 pm

Figures, the judges are unvaxxed – at least they are exempt. But unlike Djokovic, the judges being unvaxxed do not scandalise the simple minded.

Zipster
April 5, 2022 10:16 pm

Well they’d better have overwhelming logistic support, because that’s one of the reasons 145,000,000 Russians can’t take and hold a couple of Ukrainian provinces that actually want to secede.

come back in a month and we will see where things are

JC
JC
April 5, 2022 10:18 pm

I’m down to my Lars Kroner”?

Very cute, but I’m sure Lars would not appreciate the humor. 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 5, 2022 10:20 pm

*Knock knock*

Who’s there?

‘Frank.’

Frank who?

‘Frank Franc.’

MatrixTransform
April 5, 2022 10:20 pm

So, if your righteous and …

knock it off you tiresome old mole

Zipster
April 5, 2022 10:21 pm

There is another huge problem with the Chinese military: rampant corruption. That destroys morale. Morale is a huge factor in war.

It’s a very good point, but the way they overcome this is by nationalism. chinese youth for the most part are extremely nationalistic because that’s how they have been educated.

I happened to be on the Great Wall on chinese national day one year, (wasnt allowed to go anywhere near the military parade) and there were groups of young kids up and down the wall waving large chinese flags.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 5, 2022 10:22 pm

Rita Panahi: VicPol’s cheap PR isn’t going to fix public’s distrust

Victoria Police wants to rebuild its image after years of overzealous over-policing. But only when a cleanout happens at the top can public trust be rebuilt.

Rita Panahi
@ritapanahi
HERALDSUN.COM

Victoria Police’s charm offensive won’t fool those who’ve watched the force behave abhorrently in recent years, from harassing old ladies on park benches to forcing children off playgrounds to arresting a pregnant woman in her kitchen for a Facebook post.

Police command are eager to rebuild the force’s image after a period where its standing in the community deteriorated thanks largely to overzealous over-policing of the most absurd Covid-19 rules. Chief Commissioner Shane Patton is keen to repair the brand damage. “It’s time to reset and reconnect with the community,” Mr Patton said. “Our new back-to-basics approach is about making sure we’re listening to the community and tackling the issues they care about. We’re approachable, we’re involved … we’re here to help.

“We know we’ve had to perform duties and engage with people and it might not have been what they expected in the first instance because of the Covid environment we are in.”

No, Commissioner, you didn’t have to do any of the insanely illiberal and often downright brutal enforcement that you and members of your command enthusiastically embraced.

You didn’t have to allow the police force to become politicised. You didn’t have to treat peaceful protesters like domestic terrorists. You didn’t have to target or intimidate opponents of the Premier. You didn’t have to apply a stark double standard to how you treated BLM and Extinction Rebellion protesters compared to anti-lockdown protesters.

You didn’t have to hand out more fines than every other state combined. You didn’t have to body slam people for the crime of being maskless in public. You didn’t have to body slam people for the crime of allegedly being linked to a protest. You didn’t have to shoot nonlethal rounds into fleeing protesters. You didn’t have to push over elderly women who posed no danger and then pepper spray them for good measure. You didn’t have to relish enforcing the most draconian measures, more so than any other state or territory.

And you certainly didn’t have to stand with bureaucrats banning children from playgrounds and skate parks. We even had officers in full riot gear terrorising fruit and vegetable shoppers at Victoria market. Again, the heavy handed response to an anti-lockdown protest was in stark contrast to Victoria Police’s permissive attitude to a mass BLM march during the pandemic.

For those marching in the name of a race-baiting, neo-Marxist group who want to defund police and demolish capitalism, the police showed great restraint with no mass arrests or fines. But for those questioning why their kids’ schools were closed and their livelihoods destroyed they copped pepper spray, massive fines and sometimes a beating, too.

On the same day police in full riot gear descended on the fruit and veg aisles of Queen Vic Market, another police team in Epping were caught on camera stomping on the head of a man suffering a mental health episode.

The victim, Tim Atkins, was first hit by a police car before his head was stomped on as he lay on the median strip. He ended up in an induced coma but an investigation found police used “lawful” force. It’s hard to have faith in the system when you see a headline that reads: “Watchdog finds Victoria Police acted lawfully when head-stomping mentally ill man during arrest”.

Put all that together with the slug-gate saga, the politicisation of the police force, the red shirts “investigation”, selective policing practices, the Lawyer X scandal that completely undermined the criminal justice system and the failure to properly swear in more than 1000 officers and you can see why there is a crisis in trust in law enforcement in Victoria. A little cheap PR isn’t going to fix that.

Police command needs a clean out starting with Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius who referred to anti-lockdown protesters as “batshit crazy” conspiracy theorists but went out of his way to sympathise with BLM protesters. Victoria Police’s image will not recover while the likes of Chief Wiggum Cornelius are in key positions.

There must be a reckoning, and a clean-out, at the top to rebuild public trust.

MatrixTransform
April 5, 2022 10:24 pm

I don’t know what to believe anymore

that’s probably because you think everybody is a bull-shitter like yourself

JC
JC
April 5, 2022 10:26 pm

It’s a very good point, but the way they overcome this is by nationalism. chinese youth for the most part are extremely nationalistic because that’s how they have been educated.

I happened to be on the Great Wall on chinese national day one year, (wasnt allowed to go anywhere near the military parade) and there were groups of young kids up and down the wall waving large chinese flags.

True, but they also appear not to be able to think outside the box as well as Europeans. Lateral thinking derives from being able to think freely and openly. That’s a Western Trait. It’s not a Chinese attribute.

Franx
Franx
April 5, 2022 10:26 pm

Rita forgot to mention the Pell persecution.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 5, 2022 10:27 pm

There must be a reckoning, and a clean-out, at the top to rebuild public trust.

Beginning with why Julia Gilliard and Bill Shorten never faced the courts, and the witch hunt against George Pell…

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 5, 2022 10:28 pm

Victoria Police’s image will not recover while the likes of Chief Wiggum Cornelius are in key positions.

The winner. The clear winner.

My Persian princess.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
April 5, 2022 10:28 pm

Can you imagine being the Chinese Admiral tasked with getting troops ashore in Taiwan.
Knowing man portable anti tank rockets with a 2 k range would smash the crap out of landing craft.

Xi: we’ve set the invasion for the 5th of next month…
Admiral Hung Long: oook, bit of a problem, bad feng suia that day.
/ gunshot

Xi: Admiral, 5th of next month.
Admiral LongWang: definitely sir, soon as my touch of long covid and Ebola clear up.
Gunshot.

Xi: 5 th still looking good. That’s not a question by the way.
Admiral Elephantine Genitalia: bugger this, coup time.

Many… many gunshots.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 10:29 pm

Zipstersays:

April 5, 2022 at 10:16 pm

Well they’d better have overwhelming logistic support, because that’s one of the reasons 145,000,000 Russians can’t take and hold a couple of Ukrainian provinces that actually want to secede.

come back in a month and we will see where things are

Possibly.
But the way it has transpired so far certainly wasn’t Vlad’s Plan A vision for how it would go.

Zipster
April 5, 2022 10:30 pm

But the way it has transpired so far certainly wasn’t Vlad’s Plan A vision for how it would go.

did you get cc-ed on the battle plans by accident?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 10:33 pm

Franxsays:

April 5, 2022 at 10:26 pm

Rita forgot to mention the Pell persecution.

She didn’t miss much else on the way through.
Planet Cornelius and Chief Wiggum – separated at birth.
Gold!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 10:37 pm

Zipster.
Do you really, really think this shit-show, now in it’s sixth week, is running precisely according to Vlad’s whiteboard as of 24th February?

John H.
John H.
April 5, 2022 10:37 pm

Rex Angersays:
April 5, 2022 at 10:00 pm
No fighter pilot with a modicum of common sense will encourage a dogfight.

Unless he is absolutely certain he holds the advantage at the merge.

And the J-15/Su-27 family of aircraft were built for that kind of fight. They were designed to outfight the F-15, after all.

The problem is getting to the merge. If the opponent has a decisive long range advantage it is extremely difficult to get there. The problem for within visual range is the modern ASRAAM, AIM, PYTHON and the Russian Archer are devastating weapons. Going into the merge is a huge risk no matter how maneuverable the aircraft because no modern aircraft can pull better G better than a modern missile.

Another issue to consider is a comment a former US fighter pilot(Lemoine on youtube) made when watching a Gripen pilot do his stuff at an airshow. I was surprised because these are short displays because Lemoine commented how the pilot is going to be feeling the effects of that display for a few days. Many modern aircraft can pull 9G but most pilots can sustain that for a few seconds and even then there are physical consequences. Even 4-6G turns can cause damage.
Another pilot states:

As a fighter community we, unfortunately, have had more than one death per year, due to G’s, for the last 30+ years. This has led to a multi-pronged “systems mindset” for preparing pilots to endure them.

After high-G flights, my arms and legs will have what appears to be chickenpox—blood has pooled in my extremities and caused the blood vessels to rupture. It’s similar to a bruise and usually dissipates within a few days. The long term effects of high-G’s can result in neck and back issues—most pilots deal with some level of general pain due to G’s.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 5, 2022 10:40 pm

A previous David vs Goliath event:

Burma kicked the shit out of China in 1769. They killed over 70,000 inscrutable dry cleaners, won permanent independence and the bat munchers never went near the joint again.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 5, 2022 10:40 pm

From the Daily Mail. Note the bolded parts. The longer the space between doses must be why they reduced from 6 – 3 months in pretty much a week.

‘The issue is the pandemic is not over,’ infectious diseases physician Peter Collignon said.

‘At the moment it does appear for the very vulnerable groups there is a benefit (of the booster).

‘The decline in antibodies over time is what the booster doses address, but at the moment there is limited data on whether it reduces the number of infections, hospitalisations and deaths.

‘We do know the longer the doses are spaced, the better the antibody protection and there’s no doubt if you’re an adult you need to be vaccinated with at least two doses.’

John H.
John H.
April 5, 2022 10:41 pm

Zipstersays:
April 5, 2022 at 10:02 pm
Until such time as we actually see China in a serious military fight we don’t know how good their military is

It actually doesn’t matter how shit its military is, china will use overwhelming numbers to win. This is what it is furiously working on now, building up capability to have overwhelming numbers and a strategic nuclear force to counter the US.

I have written about this before but the chinese mentality is one of revenge for the perceived century of humiliation by Japan and the West. Taiwan is seen as the ultimate test to humiliate the West. (ignoring the current biological warfare and economic warfare that has been taking place, neither of which it can be open about)

I haven’t stockpiled my CBRN gear for fun. I am also serious thinking about buying a Tesla, because when the war starts we will have zero fuel for possibly years.

Yep, it is just like Mao Ze Dong stated in regard to economic growth: we have cheap labour and we’ll exploit it. It will be the same in a military conflict. In previous wars rivers ran red, in the coming one the Taiwan Strait will be red.

Zipster
April 5, 2022 10:44 pm

True, but they also appear not to be able to think outside the box as well as Europeans. Lateral thinking derives from being able to think freely and openly. That’s a Western Trait. It’s not a Chinese attribute.

True, a lot of that comes from being in an oppressed communist shithole. The only thing we can look at is the Korean war. Even though this was low tech, the willingness to keep throwing in men until the yanks ran out of ammo is what gave them an edge. I have seen reference to over a million troops thrown into that war.

This time around they will have stolen all the high tech bits even if the copies are cheap rubbish, they will still use overwhelming numbers of everything.

MatrixTransform
April 5, 2022 10:45 pm

this is awesome.
a movie about blokes dressing up as women and dancing while mouthing the words to other people’s songs

it’s got a road story for Sancho (because he loves making up stories about cars and trucks)
it’s set in the desert for Knuckles
and it’s got lots and lots of glitter for Rex

I think its called Report comment

MatrixTransform
April 5, 2022 10:45 pm

g’night ladies

John H.
John H.
April 5, 2022 10:45 pm

It is that time of night.

Learn somefing? Nah fuck that nerdy shit.
Project Wingman or Call to Power 2 or Galactic Civilizations or Fallout New Vegas or Banished? The dilemmas of so many choices.

Megan
Megan
April 5, 2022 10:47 pm

I am also serious thinking about buying a Tesla, because when the war starts we will have zero fuel for possibly years.

I don’t think there will be much left of the grid for electricity either.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 10:48 pm

Burma kicked the shit out of China in 1769

Home game.
Won the toss and batted.
China didn’t select a spinner on a crumbling deck.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 5, 2022 10:55 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
April 5, 2022 at 10:20 pm
knock it off you tiresome old mole

Stop carrying water for a lying dirtbag who can’t even keep his own story straight, and we might…

MatrixTransformsays:
April 5, 2022 at 10:45 pm
this is awesome.
a movie about blokes dressing up as women and dancing while mouthing the words to other people’s songs

Calling us all women ad infinitum doesn’t hide the fact your hero has now officially beclowned himself. And this unforced error has forever wrecked whatever credibility you thought he had.

Stick with your aircon systems going forward, Matrix. They tend not to lie for effect and then try to cover up their readouts post facto….

Zipster
April 5, 2022 10:57 pm

The plan behind the Zeli coke head is fairly obvious. Whomever is pulling the strings was out to destroy Russia and they were probably led to believe they could drag either the US or NATO or both into a conflict with Russia. That was never going to happen.

Putin kept reminding everyone that he is nuclear armed and wasn’t afraid to use them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 5, 2022 10:58 pm

High tide in Toowoomba tonight.

Zipster
April 5, 2022 10:59 pm

I am also serious thinking about buying a Tesla, because when the war starts we will have zero fuel for possibly years.

I don’t think there will be much left of the grid for electricity either.

herein one finds an actual use for solar. I doubt we would get invaded, but we might cop a couple of backhanded nukes if they start flying.

rickw
rickw
April 5, 2022 11:04 pm

Report from Mongistan CBD after dinner and drinks with international visitors.

Did The Bat Eared Mong fuck Melbourne and Victoria for a decade?

YES.

It’s a collage of the most desperate and shit cities you ever visited with a smell to match.

WTF is that smell? Ethyl mercapton plus 3rd world dysentery plus vomit plus stale beer?!! Visit and decide for yourself!

  1. Unbelievable – and clearly demonstrating how dismissive western governments are of their own people. So much for health and safety!…

  2. They’ve voted themselves into Socialism. Unfortunately, they’re just realising they can only shoot their way out.

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