1,907 thoughts on “Open Thread – Tues 19 April 2022”

  1. Vicki says:
    April 22, 2022 at 2:57 pm

    I don’t see that as the be all and end all of evaluating Aboriginal culture, but Geoffrey Blainey wrote in “Triumph of the Nomads” (which was very laudatory of the ingenuity of Aboriginal technology) that they didn’t know how to boil water.

    Yes – there is no evidence that I have seen that they had receptacles for boiling water. And, despite the plentiful mineral resources in this country, they did not discover how to manufacture metal implements via basic technology. Nor did they develop basic methodology for using clay for receptacles. Nonetheless, they endured for thousands of years.

    I don’t know whether any Aborigines, anywhere, could boil water but it’s not because the information was unavailable. They had long standing trading relations with Torres Strait Islanders and Indonesians, for example, who had many technologies and animal husbandry and food growing and seafaring skills that they could have adopted.

    But, they didn’t. Their cultures were very rigid, it seems. Frozen.

    I say ‘cultures’ because we are talking about disparate groups from the middle coast of the NT down a long way on the Queensland north coast.

    It is not an excuse to say that they couldn’t have done these things because of the climate or soils or lack of suitable animals. There were plenty of places with similar climates in the Torres Strait and PNG, they could easily have traded for a few litters of piglets, etc.

    They just didn’t want to.


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  2. Hmmm….

    Ed Case said: …before 1788 and the Industrial Revolution started 1750 in England.
    Kids were being hanged for stealing a loaf of bread.

    Care to prove that Ed?

    I presume you are saying it was therefore common. So, what – 10-20 a year in England?

    And by kid, you are saying, what, 12 years of age and under?

    I await your reply with interest.


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  3. Makka, you are a typical anti pom Australian, look at the numbers you anti English arsehole & look at the death rates you dumb fuck.
    Now fuck off.


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  4. JC:

    In those days, the one single concern was food provision. Aboriginals were hunter gatherers, which by definition means that were actually quite wealthy as hunter gatherers require lots of land per person. At the time of both the Cook and Philip arrivals, the average diet of an aboriginal was far superior to that of the average Brit or most Europeans.

    The average diet of an Aborigine was unknown at the time of those arrivals, even if the concept had any meaning. There were huge differences between the lifestyles and diets of Aborigines across this vast continent and in Tasmania.

    Such generalisations are meaningless.


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  5. Eye in the sky: Satellite imagery proves vital to understanding Ukraine war

    Without personnel in Ukraine, the United States has been forced to rely on alternative intelligence streams to understand what’s happening there, including commercial satellite companies that have come into play.

    The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency partners with more than 100 companies and is using imagery from at least 200 commercial satellites, David Gauthier, director of commercial and business operations at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, said during the 37th Space Symposium, according to Space News.

    One of the companies that has become pivotal is Maxar Technology, which has four satellites in orbit that can provide “sub-meter and, in this case, sub-50 centimeter imagery,” Stephen Wood, senior director of the Maxar News Bureau, told the Washington Examiner in an interview on Wednesday.

    Their satellites are able to capture images above Ukraine, which are then transmitted to a platform the U.S. government can access within 30 to 45 minutes, he explained, calling it a “significant improvement from where we were ten to fifteen years ago.” The satellites, considering they travel in a circular orbit around the Earth, are only able to capture photos of any specific terrain for a short period of time each day.

    Stacey Dixon, the principal deputy director of national intelligence, according to Defense One, said at the Space Symposium:

    “Early on, we also asked a few commercial companies … and those of you who helped know who you are, helped us to rapidly make available imagery, like the buildup that was happening around Ukraine’s borders, to help shed a light on what Russia was doing. This allowed others to independently interpret the images, piecing them together with other information, and tell the world what was about to happen.”

    Maxar’s now focusing their efforts in the Donbas region of Ukraine, he said, explaining that at different points since Russia invaded on Feb. 24, they’ve had different areas of the country to focus on.


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  6. But, they didn’t. Their cultures were very rigid, it seems. Frozen.

    There was an excellent article I cant quite recall by who which explained (It may have been the rebuttal by the anthropologists to Pascoes crap) which explained incredible amounts of resources and “mind power’ were used in performing ‘increase ceremonies” at the right times of the year to make things happen.

    Its an incredible cul-de-sac as on the one hand if you hold your ‘make the good rains come” at the right time of the year you will have rain, therefore its working. And if it didnt work it was sorcery from the mob across the river…
    Yet taken on that level, practiced and refined for 20-30 generations with huge taboos against innovation it would become a self reinforcing and incredibly hard to break out of society wide mental straightjacket.

    That said, they believed in sorcery, we apparently believe a chap in a dress is a lady, because SCIENCE!… so we shouldnt be too arrogant in judging taboo ridden societies.


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  7. Some EU members say will veto any collective ban on Russian oil — official

    The European Union currently has no plans of introducing a collective ban on Russian oil supplies, because several EU members threatened to veto this initiative, EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell told the LENA news alliance in an interview.

    “It will be very hard [to reach consent on embargoing Russian oil deliveries or raising tariffs], because some member states have already announced they would veto any collective decision,” Le Figaro quoted him as saying in its Friday edition.

    According to the paper, in the wake of a ban on Russian coal supplies, some European countries, including Poland and France, press for a full embargo on fuel from Russia. At the same time, Germany, Austria and Hungary are against it.


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  8. Head fuckwit, I talk to anyone as I like who tries to separate the white race & make us fight each other.
    I like my culture, you may not.
    I wonder what the future holds for our race seeing as our politicians don’t like white people.
    So maybe it is time to stop to talking about bananas & maybe realise that whitey is fkd.


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  9. It’s not meaningless in the least if we consider the average. Perhaps the author was talking about the aboriginals that greeted Cook or the First Fleet because. As I said, I read it 20 plus years ago. Obviously, the aristocracy had a superior diet to all, but the drifting from coastal aboriginals to Tasmanian would be like comparing the very high caste to the low. We’re comparing averages.


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  10. Vicki:

    I’ve often pondered those old photographs of tribal Aborigines. They were so, so lean. The latter was obviously the product of eating a basically lean meat diet (& not a lot of it!) supplemented by yams, some gathered greens, grubs, some birds, fish (in some areas) and so on.

    Now it is so sad to see such obese individuals who basically exist (at least in remote communities) on the worst items in the western diet which they obtain from community “stores”. And, of course, alcohol.

    Yep, people whose genes are loaded towards being lean do pork up as soon as there is plenty of food around. I suspect that they probably don’t even have to eat very much more than the rest of us to get fat. They are storing up for the next period of low food availability. I have known quite a few big Aboriginal women who, unless they gorge on ice cream and chocolate in the middle of the night, eat about the same way as much slimmer people, but are nevertheless barrels on legs.


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  11. Timothy Neilson:

    The only way out of that impasse (assuming that the Dems want to get out) is:
    (a) Harris goes;
    (b) Biden’s handlers get him to scrawl a signature on a document nominating someone competent as VP;
    (c ) The Dem controlled Congress approves the choice, and the new VP is sworn in;
    (d) Biden’s handlers get him to step down. The VP automatically becomes President.

    Exactly.
    If Hillary wants a route to the Presidency, then Harris has to go.
    The complication is Pelosi – she will already have the votes lined up to shove Hillary out of the way.
    That will be a catfight to buy tickets to.
    Unless some of the minor Democrats have someone else to stymie both bitches…. Hmmmm….
    Time for a decapitating strike by a China/Russian/Iranian Conglomeration*.
    *Nah. I don’t think it will happen, but it would look awfully tempting.
    Russia nukes US and Europe. China nukes SEA . India/Pakistan have a tiff over anything – China agrees to a Treaty of Defence Co operation with Pakistan, and Pakistan lets fly at India. Iran has a donkey delivered nuke go off in Tel Aviv.
    And before you know it, a tense situation has arrived.
    🙂 (I’d better put that in in case I’m accused of warmongering.)
    Quite a different world we were promised when we signed up for the French subs, yes?


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  12. I assume, however, that us unvaccinated are still forbidden to leave Australia.
    Pretty sure that was quietly abandoned a week or two ago, as well.

    Note that in WA, the unvaxxed remain barred from a range of venues in measures that are blatantly punitive in nature and have no basis in improved health outcomes. If you’re thinking of visiting this shithole, don’t come out of principle, regardless of your vaxx status.


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  13. rosie says:
    April 22, 2022 at 3:21 pm
    Stone age people with no incentives to innovate crashed into modernity two hundred years ago.

    Well it took “modernity” thousands of years to find them. By 1770, modernity as you call it was not so modern. The pace of change in the ensuing 250 years has been massive.

    The life expectancy of a person born in 1770 in Britain was less than 40. For Australian Aboriginals it was probably a little less. Low life expectancy coincides with low population despite high birth rates. In 40000 years of isolation, the population was estimated at 750000 at the time of European settlement.

    Modernity is a relatively recent phenomenon and coincides with the adoption of reason and the recognition of individual rights. Europeans crashed into modernity only 250 – 300 years ago.


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  14. The NDIS service price list is so simple and transparent that there is almost no scope for rorting. The Client is always in control.

    I clicked on the link, everything went black, and I came too and found my wallet bleeding, lying in the corner and whimpering as though something awful had taken place.

    It’s created a new generation of Thérèse Rein-style ‘entrepreneurs’ – happy to lighten the load.


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  15. Biden and the bunnymen

    Oh, to be alive in this age of science fiction in America.

    We have zoomed — at Ludicrous Speed — past George Orwell’s “1984” and Stanley Kubrick’s “2001: A Space Odyssey.” Our libraries are kept at precisely 451 degrees Fahrenheit.

    The “Planet of the Apes” was the good ole days. The zombie apocalypse was our debutante ball, our bar mitzvah, our 18th birthday party.

    We now live in a land ruled by the Easter Bunny where all science is fiction. We have triumphed over gender and conquered free speech. Theft is charity. Science is religion, and fiction has become science.

    “We choose truth over facts,” President Biden told us before he surrendered the presidency to the Easter Bunny, who this week tackled Mr. Biden and dragged him away from an unscripted reporter who almost interviewed the vacated president. It was not clear how Mr. Biden had been allowed to come in contact with the reporter during an Easter Egg roll at the White House.

    At JFK airport in New York City, citizens were confused and frightened. Just hours after the mask mandate was lifted, travelers clung to their masks like security blankets. They tried sticking their thumbs into their mouths. But, alas, their mouths were covered by masks.

    They wandered like sleep-walking children in footed pajamas, clutching their binkies to their cheeks.

    Others who remembered freedom from their childhood slung free of the hoods that had bound their faces for years, joyfully swinging them around in the air like a striptease of freedom.

    The robotic, obedient fearful looked on in terror and bewilderment. A bag lady wearing a complicated mask dug into her luggage and produced filthy masks to offer those who had joyfully unmasked themselves.

    The free travelers looked upon her with pity.

    Back at the White House, the Easter Bunny stewed over the sudden outbreak of freedom.

    Long live the Easter Bunny!


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  16. The NDIS service price list is so simple and transparent that there is almost no scope for rorting. The Client is always in control.

    This is an example from someone I know on the NDIS. A cleaner came to his house and spent 15 mins there. Minimum charge would be at least one hour.


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  17. johannasays:
    April 22, 2022 at 5:30 pm
    Vicki:

    I’ve often pondered those old photographs of tribal Aborigines. They were so, so lean. The latter was obviously the product of eating a basically lean meat diet (& not a lot of it!) supplemented by yams, some gathered greens, grubs, some birds, fish (in some areas) and so on.

    Now it is so sad to see such obese individuals who basically exist (at least in remote communities) on the worst items in the western diet which they obtain from community “stores”. And, of course, alcohol.

    Yep, people whose genes are loaded towards being lean do pork up as soon as there is plenty of food around. I suspect that they probably don’t even have to eat very much more than the rest of us to get fat. They are storing up for the next period of low food availability. I have known quite a few big Aboriginal women who, unless they gorge on ice cream and chocolate in the middle of the night, eat about the same way as much slimmer people, but are nevertheless barrels on legs.

    There are studies pointing to different insulin sensitivity in indigenous people. Also for their immune responses which may explain the very high rate of infections(and subsequent kidney failure). This is not surprising because recent genetic studies point to immunological shifts with the development of agriculture and perhaps more importantly livestock.

    Long ago there was a little experiment where they had indigenes adopt their traditional diet. The transformation was remarkable. Improvements no many health metrics. That will also be true of us but it is more pronounced in indigenes.


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  18. Top Ender

    Another massive disaster for the ADF was the Sea Sprite program. Around $1 billion, no usable aircraft delivered, AFAIK no-one in Navy or the Defence Acquisition organisation suffered career detriment in any way.


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  19. JC says:
    April 22, 2022 at 4:36 pm

    I suspect coastal Aboriginals had far more access to protein that Europeans though I’m in no way convinced that overall ‘quality of life’ was superior.

    Possibly okay if you were a reasonably healthy male. Possibly not okay if you were a kid or a Aboriginal sheila giving too much lip. ?

    What’s your point? We’re talking about diet here.


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  20. johanna

    It is not an excuse to say that they couldn’t have done these things because of the climate or soils or lack of suitable animals. There were plenty of places with similar climates in the Torres Strait and PNG, they could easily have traded for a few litters of piglets, etc.

    They just didn’t want to.

    Just as a significant proportion today seem not willing to move from dependency to a productive life.


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  21. If Biden is sectioned, it’s Harris.

    I suspect this will happen soon.

    Why would the Democrats wait until after the mid-terms, which they may lose, and then not be able to replace the office of vice-president after Harris steps up?

    And if Harris doesn’t step up, they are going into the 2024 election with Biden.


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  22. Note that in WA, the unvaxxed remain barred from a range of venues in measures that are blatantly punitive in nature and have no basis in improved health outcomes.

    At some point, someone is going to have to challenge these orders in law if only to find the limit of a government’s emergency powers. It’s also hard to argue that the employment mandates are legitimate if there are no extant mandate for customers.


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  23. You know I’ve visited possibly dozens of European anthropological museums where they walk you through Palaeolithic Neolithic bronze etc ages, that’s what I meant by crashing into the modern age, which in fact started a little after the 14th century.


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  24. The Euros had a largely grain based diet.
    The Abos had a largely protein based one.

    Ergo: The Aboriginals were early gym junkies.*

    * Link to possibly the worlds saddest cookbook…. Im talking sub 1970’s “Make everything with jello” level.


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  25. This is pretty shit.
    I saw a reference to it on the news but didnt realise just how shit it was.
    https://thecritic.co.uk/the-digital-dirty-war/

    One Russian mother was sent a message informing her that her son was dead, accompanied by a photo of his body in the dirt, face grimacing and mouth agape.

    “Why are you doing this?” she replied. “Do you want me to die? I already don’t live. You must be enjoying this.”

    This is a grotesque new frontier in the history of warfare, so why is it exactly that so many are lining up to justify it? Why, more to the point, is a major US tech firm facilitating what may well be a war crime — and why is nobody in authority doing anything to stop it?


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  26. I suspect coastal Aboriginals had far more access to protein that Europeans though I’m in no way convinced that overall ‘quality of life’ was superior.

    What’s my point? The last bit about quality of life, which isn’t just diet and was partially a throwaway comment.


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  27. The news that Trivago has been fined $45 million brings back fond memories of the Trivago Girl.
    Bugger the “highly misleading conduct”. I liked the girl.


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  28. Why would the Democrats wait until after the mid-terms, which they may lose, and then not be able to replace the office of vice-president after Harris steps up?

    Good point that the Dems’ total control over the process is likely to vanish when the class of ’22 gets sworn in.

    But they can rely on substantial numbers of GOP wets to drop their strides, bend over and take the fire hydrant sized shaft right up the tradesmen’s entrance for pretty much anything the Dems propose [see “Bipartisanship”], so it’s hard to know how much of a factor that will be in the Dem factions’ planning.

    All we can be sure of is that there’ll be some frenetic bitchslapping going on behind the scenes involving some or all of Harris, Hillary, “Dr Jill”, Pelosi, maybe even Michelle O, and who knows who else.


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  29. $45m for the Trivago Girl? As I have previously commented – always ends up being cheaper by the hour. Any guess on how much of the $45m will be paid? Any advance on zero?


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  30. It’s also hard to argue that the employment mandates are legitimate if there are no extant mandate for customers.

    I’ve commented to a couple of the staff at the 7/11 across the road about the lack of apparent utility of making them wear masks when there’s also a perspex screen between them and the customer. Their faith in the “science” appears to have waned.


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  31. At some point, someone is going to have to challenge these orders in law if only to find the limit of a government’s emergency powers. It’s also hard to argue that the employment mandates are legitimate if there are no extant mandate for customers.

    Already started, Dover.

    It was reported on the Cat, that the WAPOL union (I think) won in the WA Supreme Court against mandatory vaccination a month or two ago. But that quickly disappeared into general background noise here and in wider society, and was met by some anti-police “Why should we care? You got what you deserved for not defending us” sentiment by a couple of posters. And that was about it.

    The NZ police, civil defence and military mandate strikedown and NSW wins were much more publicised and commented on here by comparison.

    Just a reflection of relative audience proportions and informational preferences.


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  32. Les Carlyon’s Gallipoli notes British and French troops marvelling at the size and strength of the Australians compared to themselves. The Poms and Frogs themselves made the connection to diet, climate and exercise.

    If anyone was wondering.
    …if you were the average frontline G.I., you would fit the following description.
    You are a 26-years-old white male with nine years of education … You are five feet, eight inches tall, and you weigh 144 pounds.

    Remember: those nine years of depression era education were the average.
    Rummaging elsewhere, the US Army’s literacy requirement was dropped due to manpower requirements and political pressure.


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  33. Fantastic news! Shame it wasn’t more (Tripadvisor next, fine them a few Billion, please)

    The news that Trivago has been fined $45 million brings back fond memories of the Trivago Girl.
    Bugger the “highly misleading conduct”. I liked the girl.

    The downfall of her brand is a pleasing development.

    In her (very fake & very unlike her in real life) act as the Trivago chick, she was quite ..er… rootable, but that’s where it ended. I’m thrilled at the downfall of the witch.


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  34. There were plenty of places with similar climates in the Torres Strait and PNG, they could easily have traded for a few litters of piglets, etc.

    They just didn’t want to.
    I’m guessing that you’ve never smelt a pig, johanna?
    Concerning trade, that involved Torres Strait headhunters raiding Aboriginal communities and stealing children.
    I did read somewhere that it wasn’t unusual for stolen Aboriginal boys to become leaders among the Islanders later in life.


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  35. Unfortunately, I’m discovering that a key part of getting a masters-level law qualification involves frequent forelock-tugging when it comes to all things Indigenous. You should see the ex post facto efforts to create and define an Indigenous Spirituality (yes, ‘spirituality’ in this context is a proper noun, for some unexplained reason). It’s a complete load of horseshit that only professional navel-gazers in academia could come up with, and there is absolutely zero evidence that the people who lived here prior to European settlement regarded their existence in such ways, nor that their descendants ever would have, unless they were informed of the nature of their Spirituality by those defining it contemporaneously.

    If you read these definitions with a relatively cursory knowledge of the great religions of the world, you can see where these framers of our future history have pinched a bit from Buddhism here (the interconnectedness of things), a bit from Islam there (can only be understood if expressed in Indigenous languages), how storytelling is elevated to religious status a la Judaism, and oh look, the creator/animating life force seems an awful lot like the Holy Spirit. Oh, the other thing they pinched from Judaism is the primacy of one’s life and the relative unimportance of an afterlife. Which doesn’t really make sense, because ancestors are also said to play a crucial role in…well…stuff that happens. However, I probably don’t get it because none of this can fully be translated into English or understood in English.

    Anyway, there’s plenty more where the comes from, and plenty more to come where that comes. It’s still a work in progress being developed and beta-tested in every Indigenous Studies faculty throughout the land. I’m sure that, within a decade or so, the completed mythology will have been fully divined in a form capable of being taught to primary school-aged children and above.


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  36. JC says:
    April 22, 2022 at 5:24 pm

    It’s not meaningless in the least if we consider the average. Perhaps the author was talking about the aboriginals that greeted Cook or the First Fleet because. As I said, I read it 20 plus years ago. Obviously, the aristocracy had a superior diet to all, but the drifting from coastal aboriginals to Tasmanian would be like comparing the very high caste to the low. We’re comparing averages.

    I am explicitly not comparing averages, because there are no averages to compare.

    Don’t put words in my mouth.


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  37. Protein from fish is overrated.
    Abos on Flinders Island didn’t eat fish at all, though it was no big deal to catch fish there.
    Proof of Aboriginal Stupidity or evidence of only doing what’s been proven to work?


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  38. A lovely day for driving Broken Hill to Angaston…except for one thing.

    The Beloved was pinged doing 120 in the 110 zone in the middle of the mulga between the SA border and the first little town. His first driving offence in 50 years. 🙁

    The policeman was wearing a mask. In the desert.


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  39. Amy Remeikis
    @AmyRemeikis
    ‘Cancel culture’ (which doesn’t exist) has officially entered the Liberal election campaign platform.
    Morrison:”…And so they walk around on eggshells in the office, they walk around on eggshells in their community and feel that they just can’t, you know, be themselves”.

    These same people denied the existence of ‘the culture war’.


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  40. Good effin’ luck getting something like this in Australia.

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/Oak-Grove-Rd-Grafton-WV-26354/125342710_zpid/

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  41. The Beloved was pinged doing 120 in the 110 zone in the middle of the mulga between the SA border and the first little town. His first driving offence in 50 years.

    The New South Wales Highway Patrol.

    Pigs among pigs. Cops hate traffic cops, and other traffic cops hate the NSW Highway Patrol concrete heads.


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  42. The Beloved was pinged doing 120 in the 110 zone in the middle of the mulga between the SA border and the first little town.
    We used to live in SA. Just before leaving we did a trip to NSW in our then new Commodore (a mistake, recommended by a “mate” – buy Jap). Somewhere west of Broken Hill when Mrs Eyrie was driving she was complaining that the thing felt “squirrely”. “You’re doing 145kph, dear”


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  43. From “The Age.”

    Roberts-Smith’s friend denies colluding over evidence in defamation case
    Michaela Whitbourn
    By Michaela Whitbourn
    April 22, 2022 — 1.30pm

    A friend of war veteran Ben Roberts-Smith has denied colluding with the decorated former soldier and three other former comrades about the evidence they would give in his defamation case.

    Person 5, whose identity cannot be revealed for national security reasons, is a former Special Air Service patrol commander who served in Afghanistan with Roberts-Smith.

    The men are close friends and Person 5 is the first SAS witness to give evidence for Roberts-Smith in his Federal Court defamation case against The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Canberra Times.

    Nicholas Owens, SC, acting for the newspapers, put it to Person 5 on Friday that the reason he spoke to Roberts-Smith and former comrades dubbed Persons 29, 35 and 38 in the weeks before their written outlines of evidence were due in the case was to collude to produce a “coherent version” of events about a key mission in Afghanistan in 2009.

    Person 5 denied the allegation, saying he spoke to the men “all the time” and “we’re all friends”.

    “Are you saying that because there’s a trial on you can’t speak to your friends any more?” he asked.

    The newspapers allege Roberts-Smith directed a subordinate, Person 4, to execute an unarmed Afghan man in April 2009 at a compound dubbed Whiskey 108, and that Person 5 officially gave that order as the men’s patrol commander. Both Roberts-Smith and Person 5 deny the alleged events took place.

    Under the rules of engagement that bound the SAS, prisoners cannot be killed. The newspapers also allege Roberts-Smith executed a second unarmed prisoner during that mission. Roberts-Smith denies that allegation, and says he acted lawfully in killing a combatant in battle.

    A serving SAS soldier dubbed Person 14 has previously told the court that he witnessed an Australian soldier on that day shoot an Afghan man at close range with a “distinctive” machine gun, known as the F89 Para Minimi, that he later saw in the possession of Roberts-Smith. “Not many” soldiers carried this light weapon, he said in February.

    Person 14, who was called by the newspapers to give evidence, also said that one of the Australian soldiers he saw near the Afghan man’s body had camouflage paint or “campaint” on his face with a grey hue in it that was “the same, or similar, campaint style as Ben Roberts-Smith”.

    Roberts-Smith was Person 5’s second-in-charge on the mission in 2009. Person 5 told the court on Thursday that his patrol wore brown, green and black camouflage paint on that mission, “like 99 per cent of all camouflage paint”.



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  44. Good effin’ luck getting something like this in Australia.

    $57,000
    2.6 Acres
    Oak Grove Rd, Grafton, WV 26354

    You’ve missed the essential bit of information, which is:
    How far away from the nearest Vibrant Community?
    A walk?
    A jog?
    A short drive?
    A longer drive.


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  45. This is pretty shit.
    I saw a reference to it on the news but didnt realise just how shit it was.

    In previous wars, carpet bombing was used to destroy civilian morale.

    This is cheaper and just as effective.

    It is also shit.


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  46. I don’t know why people think the American establishment is embarrassed by Biden’s decrepitude, it is not a bug but a feature. As long as he is there nobody knows who is actually making decisions and giving orders and nobody is accountable. There is no “the buck stops here” at present. The last thing the junta wants as president is someone who knows what they are doing or what is going on.


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  47. SA police, KD.

    You’ll be pleased to know the little B&B we have in Angaston is literally covered in scatter cushions.

    Needless to describe their fate when the Beloved spied them. But I will. They are all stacked in the corner in disgrace.


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  48. The Beloved was pinged doing 120 in the 110 zone in the middle of the mulga between the SA border and the first little town. His first driving offence in 50 years.

    What speed was he actually doing Calli?


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  49. OCO, I feel for you, I have spent many days recently in a course conducted by an indigenous consultant, who must have scored a jackpot from my employer, yes a university. I spent most of the long hours taking notes of all the incongruities and illogical concepts.

    It was the oddest series of seminars I have ever attended in that attendees simply kept their mouths shut, me included. We did talk among ourselves later and even then it was guarded.

    Anything that is inflicted on people is going to fail spectacularly at some point. The whole thing reminded me of the vaccines mandate, you must participate to keep your job.

    The saddest part was the plight of the indigenous children and young people in remote communities who are more and more being alienated from the mainstream by the very people who claim to want the best for them. If they really want to save the younger generation move everyone into larger population centres that are also populated by the despised colonisers. You can still keep the best parts of your culture and get the best parts of the mainstream culture.


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  50. Gonzalo Lira alive and well. Was in SBU custody since last Fri. Released today but cannot leave Kharkov for the time being. Looks pretty shock up.

    I thought the ‘Martyrdom-by-Ukro-Nastis’ brigade was a bit premature…


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  51. What speed was he actually doing Calli?

    120kmh. He had set the cruise control, so it wasn’t accidental. The road was like a gunbarrel.

    He is mortified, but that’s life.


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  52. The Beloved was pinged doing 120 in the 110 zone in the middle of the mulga between the SA border and the first little town. His first driving offence in 50 years.

    I could tell a similar story.

    SA police are something else.


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  53. You’re doing 145kph, dear”

    Your sense of speed does get a bit iffy in the desert. My grand tour on the bike was around that till you had to stop for petrol. It did result in one crash when I locked the front wheel in blue metal at what felt like walking pace but was probably 40-60kph. Not happy about it still.


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  54. More B&B news. In the kitchen, which beautifully set up for someone who likes cooking, is something inspirational. Not quite LLL, but “Happiness is not a destination. It’s a way of life.”

    I made The Beloved face it as we ate our pan fried barra and salad (tomorrow is restaurant night). The sentiment is a-okay with me.

    I noticed waaaaay up thread something in a JC comment about success and optimism and turning up. This has been my experience – you have to be hopeful, whether in parenting, business, relationships, life in general. And then not just sit back and “allow” it all to happen – it won’t. You have to work for it. And setbacks cultivate resilience.


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  55. Rogersays:
    April 22, 2022 at 7:40 pm
    Nope.
    Land grab.

    And if the Donbass was all he’d gone for at the outset he would have gotten away with it largely scott free.

    Hubris.

    According to this analysis there is an important historical perspective to this.


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  56. H B Bearsays:
    April 22, 2022 at 7:33 pm
    You’re doing 145kph, dear”

    Your sense of speed does get a bit iffy in the desert. My grand tour on the bike was around that till you had to stop for petrol. It did result in one crash when I locked the front wheel in blue metal at what felt like walking pace but was probably 40-60kph. Not happy about it still.

    It is unsettling. The number of times I slowed down entering a country town thinking I was doing 60k when I was closer to 100K. Max Wrist has no excuse. 135mph in a 45 zone.


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  57. Bugger the “highly misleading conduct”. I liked the girl.

    the missus just went on a rant about the Trivago Girl and how she always wore the weirdest cloths and that the missus just couldn’t imagine what the mens saw in her.

    I quipped, “that’s coz you always imagined her with the clothes ON”


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  58. Gonzalo Lira is alive. Here is a short interview with Alex Christophorou on The Duran today.

    He was picked up by the authorities on 15th April and has not had access to his accounts since so anything appearing there since is not from from. He is still in Krakov and not allowed to leave. He is obviously very shaken and very circumspect in what he is saying.


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  59. The Great Emu War of 1932? ?

    My grandfather was farming in the district where the Great Emu War of 1932 was fought. Another of the locals received a bill from the Army for the .303 ammunition used. He countered with a bill for supplying quarters and victuals to His Majesties Forces, and never heard another word.


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  60. Standing up for oppressed Russians?
    A bulwark of Christianity?
    Battling Nazis?
    Seeing off poovedom?
    Crushing Klaus Schwab’s evil globalist plot?

    Nope.
    Land grab.

    Russia says it plans full control of Donbas and southern Ukraine – Ifax

    A land grab doesn’t exclude any of the above even if that report is correct. Given what they’ve committed, the cutting of the aqueduct to Crimea since 2014, and so on, that or something like that, was always going to happen if war ensued. Which is why Zelensky had to go all out to prevent war since 2019, and reason he was a catastrophic failure.


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  61. Possible Catictionary challenge.
    What would “Zelenskyy” mean if it were a verb?
    e.g. He’s going to Zelensky it.
    e.g. He’s Zelenskyying that one bigly.

    My suggestion:
    To play the underdog while being backed by the world’s most powerful forces.


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  62. Before moving up to Scotland I spent two weeks in a BnB in St Albans. It was very expensive. There is always a shortage of accommodation in the Home Counties.
    The bird who owned it obviously lived there and had equally obviously just moved around the corner to stay with Mum while ripping me off.
    She left all of her junk in place. It was incredibly uncomfortable, embarrassing and enraging. I went back to the BnB promotion page and there was no mention of having to step over her knickers to get to the shower.
    I was about to go nuclear on the review but was warned off by a Brit friend who assured me that BnB would ensure that no BnB host would have anything to do with me after BNB did me down.
    Lessons.
    My BnB up here also has a high degree of host inteference. Bringing around food, offering to take me on guided tours and offers of horse trail riding. Now that is BnB that I can live with.


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  63. And if the Donbass was all he’d gone for at the outset he would have gotten away with it largely scott free.

    I’d like it explained to me how someone just goes for Donbass. The two republics in Donbass are disputed, with UKR in well dug-in positions in both. Are RUS ‘allowed’ to traverse in Kharkov oblast in order to flank UKR forces in near south? But if so, why wouldn’t UKR puts its mobile reserve just there ready to counter. Of course they would. There is simply no way you limit this to Donbass.


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  64. cohenitesays:
    April 22, 2022 at 8:04 pm
    Multiple sudden deaths in the Bodybuilding world.
    https://therecenttimes.com/news/what-happened-to-stacey-cummings-texas-bodybuilder-dies-at-31
    It’s a mystery, eh?

    Juice death. The ladies incline towards NPP, a variety of Decca, which has has shorter ester and is in and out much quicker. But it is hard on the heart short term and the liver and kidneys long term.

    Cardiomyopathy related deaths are a leading cause of death in bodybuilders. Too many aren’t using the drugs under appropriate medical supervision.

    Strong muscles, weak heart: testosterone-induced cardiomyopathy

    BODYBUILDING GONE WRONG: ANABOLIC STEROID INDUCED CARDIOMYOPATHY
    Conclusion
    Abuse of AAS has become prominent among athletes and non-athletes alike. In this case, prescription hormone therapy without close monitoring by a medical practice lead to toxic and life-threatening levels of testosterone. While the half-life of androgens varies, this case exhibited reversibility of AAS cardiomyopathy after cessation of medication within one month. Awareness of testosterone abuse and its potentially fatal outcomes has important clinical implications.


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  65. It was posted before but this Tucker video about the effects of demorat policies on blacks is beyond belief. The segment at the end showing the murder of a black security guard by some other black witnessed by other blacks is ghastly. Yet blacks will still vote for demorats at a 90% rate.


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  66. Given what they’ve committed, the cutting of the aqueduct to Crimea since 2014

    A nuclear power seaside can’t get drinking water and also expects no retaliation for just marching in and stealing land? The pipeline was the ONLY source of water? Preposterous.

    All of these stupid Russian justifications inevitably end with “just let us take over”.


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  67. Many restaurants survived the first lockdown in Sydney with the help of job-keeper payments. The second lockdown was the final blow to the devastation of the restaurants in Sydney CBD. Many long term staff left the hospitality industry altogether during the second lockdown. They had their own rent to pay and they felt they now longer worked in a secure industry. They obtained other jobs and will not be back.
    An online ad for restaurant workers which once received up to 200 replies now receives none. Restaurants still have to pay their rent.


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  68. dotty,
    As a free movement of people across borders ardent advocate, you sound pretty stupid criticizing Russia for standing up for their own brutalized ethics across the Ukr border. Especially when Ukraine harbor such foul nazi worshiping ideologues, heavily invested in Russian ethnic slaughter.


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  69. We’re all in this together” (Scott Morrison, March 2020)

    The second lockdown was the final blow to the devastation of the restaurants in Sydney CBD. Many long term staff left the hospitality industry altogether during the second lockdown. They had their own rent to pay and they felt they now longer worked in a secure industry. They obtained other jobs and will not be back.



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  70. A nuclear power seaside can’t get drinking water and also expects no retaliation for just marching in and stealing land? The pipeline was the ONLY source of water? Preposterous.

    All of these stupid Russian justifications inevitably end with “just let us take over”.

    I’m not providing a ‘justification’. I’m arguing that Russia is going to claim the Kherson oblast to prevent that from happening again.


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  71. Cardiomyopathy related deaths are a leading cause of death in bodybuilders. Too many aren’t using the drugs under appropriate medical supervision.

    being illegal makes that hard


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  72. My son has for 25yrs established and managed six restaurants presently operating, three of which are in the Sydney CBD.
    He is working day and night. Always an optimist, he is not so at this time.
    Tomorrow he will be 53yrs old. He is glad he will have passed the 52 which was not so good for Shane W and Kimberley K.


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  73. An online ad for restaurant workers which once received up to 200 replies now receives none. Restaurants still have to pay their rent.

    Government can wreck anything if they put their minds to it.


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  74. Meanwhile not one civil servant lost their job and they actually got pay rises and expanded their numbers.

    “online ad for restaurant workers which once received up to 200 replies now receives none. Restaurants still have to pay their rent”


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  75. Meanwhile not one civil servant lost their job and they actually got pay rises and expanded their numbers.

    Virtually none of them lost their job over the jab either. Commonwealth exempted or just allowed to work from home or take leave.


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  76. BTW, Crimea has always been a part of Russia. It was completely idiotic for it to have remained a part of Ukraine once the latter became independent. There was supposed to be a referendum re Crimean independence in 1992 but Ukraine squibbed it. Crimeans have always felt themselves to be Russian. Denying reality always has a way of catching up with individuals, families, and nations.


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  77. The policeman was wearing a mask. In the desert.

    Sir, can you please remove your mask? As we’re in the middle of the desert, wearing it seems to indicate that you are either someone impersonating a police officer, or you’re a retarded person with a Glock.


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  78. An online ad for restaurant workers which once received up to 200 replies now receives none.

    Here’s what the readership of The Australian recently had to say in comments under an article on this topic of understaffed restaurants:

    “Problem is employers who won’t consider training new employees and just want skilled people.”

    “Pay above award wages and you would have staff. I have no trouble attracting staff.”

    “It would be interesting to know how Many hours they were offering their front of house staff. If like many restaurants they were only needing staff to cover max 20 hours per week.”

    “Do they have enough business to be able to offer full time work?”

    “If a business cannot pay a living wage to its employees then that business needs to change its business model are go out of business. Businesses should not survive on the backs of underpaid workers.”

    “Do we really need to list the cases of wage theft in Australia over the past 2 years?”

    Comments, many even stupider, continued for many scrolls of the page.


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  79. Right this second, rival online dating coaches across the globe are sitting in their gamer chairs yelling ‘Curses!’ at their screens.

    Now that Lira MAY HAVE successfully faked his capture and release to improve his audience (and subscription) share.

    It’ll be name yer price time for the faithful when he eventually decides to put up a ‘tell-all’.


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  80. Rickw, on asking, he virtue signalled, telling the Beloved that he chose to wear his mask.

    How can anyone be angry with such an complete and utter dill?


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  81. As a free movement of people across borders ardent advocate, you sound pretty stupid criticizing Russia for standing up for their own brutalized ethics across the Ukr border.

    Wait til you meet white supremacists – like Zippy – who are really, really concerned about the “Ukrainian Nazi” movement!


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  82. I want to see Scott Ritter explain how Javelin missiles don’t work against 50 year old tanks and how Gonzalo Lira is dead.

    Go Scottie!

    Scott Ritter doesn’t have to make sense – he just needs to say whatever keeps the Kremlin happy (and stops them from releasing all the compromising photographs they have of him!).


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  83. Would world leaders ACTUALLY consider NUCLEAR WAR?

    Glenn Beck

    A now-deleted message from the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation originally warned citizens last weekend to prepare for a possible ‘retaliatory nuclear strike from NATO countries.’ According to Newsweek, Russian officials say the message was written and posted by hackers. But despite the warning’s uncertain origin, the fact we’re discussing even the SLIGHTEST possibility of a nuclear war means our world leaders have gone too far, Glenn says: ‘[The world] is being run by a seemingly group of crazy people. And the rest of us are sitting here going, what the hell? Where are we going? What’s happening?!’ So, would leaders ACTUALLY consider escalating today’s conflict into a nuclear war?!


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  84. DAFisk

    Scott Ritter doesn’t have to make sense – he just needs to say whatever keeps the Kremlin happy (and stops them from releasing all the compromising photographs they have of him!).

    Dick Ed denounces almost anyone in the public eye as a “spook”, except Ritter, who probably is one. Ed ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed, but he really is a tool.


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  85. If a business cannot pay a living wage to its employees then that business needs to change its business model are go out of business. Businesses should not survive on the backs of underpaid workers.”

    That’s somebody’s standard comment to any article involving business. I’ve read that comment several times to articles involving farming.


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  86. That’s somebody’s standard comment to any article involving business. I’ve read that comment several times to articles involving farming.

    Lol yeah, a bloke can write the comments for them:

    “The operators did not factor [insert the applicable politician/public service brain-fart here] into their business plan, so they deserve to go out of business”


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  87. So, would leaders ACTUALLY consider escalating today’s conflict into a nuclear war?!

    Have another look at Obama’s 16 year plan (interrupted by Trump).


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  88. Makkasays:
    April 22, 2022 at 8:37 pm
    dotty,
    As a free movement of people across borders ardent advocate, you sound pretty stupid criticizing Russia for standing up for their own brutalized ethics across the Ukr border. Especially when Ukraine harbor such foul nazi worshiping ideologues, heavily invested in Russian ethnic slaughter.

    Keep that in mind the next time you bank a cheque for the work you do outside of Australia. Maybe you can retire and give them their money back?

    I’m here to help you.

    https://impakter.com/deadly-ideology-putin-eurasianism/

    Contrary to what many people think, Putin’s goal is not simply a matter of restoring the Soviet Union or the empire of the Tsars. It’s much more than that. And it is terrifying. Russia is an economic midget but it has chosen guns over butter and as a result, it is a military giant. With immense ambitions and a single overriding objective: establish Eurasia as a world power displacing America. The ideology driving Putin has a name: Eurasianism.

    The idea is to kill off, once and for all liberalism which is viewed as “the greatest threat to the ethno-cultural survival of all the earth’s people”. Those are the words of the man behind Putin, his informal but very vocal ideologue, Alexander Dugin. Eurasianism, the Eurasia Party and the International Eurasian Movement are his brainchildren.

    Eurasianism, a sulphurous combination of ideas drawn from metaphysics, symbolism, esoterism and racism. It has deep roots in Dugin’s bizarre ethnocentric view of History where Russia is placed at the center and the West in the periphery. Western liberalism is roundly rejected and the Russian people are elevated to the status of masters of the continent: Dugin argues they appeared at the dawn of Time and predate all other people. That is why they deserve to govern every other people on the Eurasian continent.

    It has some seriously weird stuff, like the actual Nazis:

    “The long march of history, from our earliest Hyperborean roots to the present day, confirms that it is only the Russian People who possess the spiritual and cultural purity, hence the collective virility required to produce a future binding Eurasian State and supra-national Union for those who have traditionally comprised the peoples of Eurasia”


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  89. The Beloved was pinged doing 120 in the 110 zone in the middle of the mulga between the SA border and the first little town. His first driving offence in 50 years.

    Is it time to discuss my fine for getting the Bentley sideways* in Canberra?

    * 46 kmh.


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  90. Australia’s Labor, for farmers. Oh My Farking God.

    From Michael Smith. Anyone know how to link to this? This blithering plank is the Shadow Minister for Agriculture, for chucks steak.


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  91. Anyone know how to link to this? This blithering plank is the Shadow Minister for Agriculture, for chucks steak.

    Zulu, is this the trainwreck you were referring to?
    Link


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  92. Contrary to what many people think, Putin’s goal is not simply a matter of restoring the Soviet Union or the empire of the Tsars. It’s much more than that. And it is terrifying. Russia is an economic midget but it has chosen guns over butter and as a result, it is a military giant. With immense ambitions and a single overriding objective: establish Eurasia as a world power displacing America. The ideology driving Putin has a name: Eurasianism.

    Dot the link elaborates on that point. People who think this is just about the sins of Ukraine don’t understand Putin or the history of Russia. It’s not that weird, other countries entertain similiar mythologies, but this one is very dangerous.

    THIS explains why Russia starts insane wars


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  93. Is it too much to ask for anyone here to prove Scott Ritter’s looney tweets about Gonzalo Lira being dead and Javelin missiles not working against an at best 37 year old tank, or at worst, a 53 year old tank?

    For a start?


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  94. What Trump Got Right About Central Europe, Ukraine, and the Politics of Security
    Despite all the fretting over Trump’s “America First” rhetoric, his administration strengthened relations with key partners. The Biden Administration has lost them all.

    Russia’s invasion not only poses an existential threat to Ukrainian sovereignty, but it also represents a direct challenge to American power and credibility globally. If Vladimir Putin prevails, the promise of the United States to act as a security guarantor through NATO in Europe or on its own anywhere will be in shambles.

    Moscow is clearly pursuing two goals simultaneously: territorial gains in Ukraine as part of the revanchist ambition to restore the Soviet-era sphere of influence and, more importantly, degrading American strategic prominence, with the goal of driving the United States out of Europe.

    China and Iran are happy to cheer this on. What is at stake is therefore much more than the legitimacy of Ukrainian independence, as important as that is. We are facing a hot war as part of the global competition between the United States and its strategic opponents.

    This global competition found its first prominent expression in the 2017 National Security Strategy of the Trump Administration. Thus, the Russian invasion provides an important opportunity to evaluate relevant Trump-era policies and to measure them against the track records of the preceding and subsequent administrations—that is, the foreign policy of the Obama and Biden teams—given the significant overlaps in their personnel.

    In light of the war and the efforts by Europe and NATO to scramble to respond, it is striking how much the Trump Administration got right, often against the shrill opposition of the liberal foreign policy establishment. It is equally clear that the Democratic administrations made severe missteps. Five key points stand out.

    First, by the beginning of the Trump Administration, a rebalancing of U.S. interests in Europe had become timely. The Brexit vote, prior to the Trump victory in November 2016, meant that the United Kingdom would no longer participate internally in the formulation of the foreign policy of the European Union. Because the UK had formerly often advocated positions aligned with Washington, this change diminished American influence in Brussels.

    It consequently became urgent to find new best friends inside the EU. Donald Trump chose to cultivate bilateral relations with the countries on the Eastern Front, from the Baltics to Bulgaria, and especially Poland—where the president delivered one of his best speeches—and Romania. Many of these countries had—and continue to have—a much sharper perception of the Russian threat than did so-called old Europe further to the west, notably Germany, which was no longer the front-line state it had been during the Cold War.

    Trump tried to move troops from pointless deployments in Germany to the east where they were needed. In light of Putin’s aggression, the wisdom of that planned repositioning is indisputable, both to defend NATO allies and to assert American power. The Biden Administration is belatedly following the path that Trump laid out.

    Second, like French President Emmanuel Macron, who famously diagnosed the brain death of NATO, Trump called out the endemic lack of commitment of many NATO members to their own defense, especially their refusal to meet the Wales Pledge to dedicate 2 percent of their GDP to security. Trump critics howled when he appeared to make U.S. security guarantees contingent on the behavior of allies, yet the allies’ reluctance to contribute to their own defense was eroding NATO. The issue became especially pointed in Germany—Europe’s largest economy, whose 2 percent meant the most—as Trump’s ambassador Richard Grenell hammered on this point and succeeded in beginning to turn German public opinion.

    Yet only in the wake of the invasion of Ukraine has German Chancellor Olaf Scholz finally promised to increase defense spending. The jury is still out as to whether he will make good on the promise. Meanwhile, German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht is dragging her feet on supplying arms to Ukraine. Trump and Grenell were right to push back against the Putinversteher, the Russia apologists in the German establishment who still have a lot of sway.

    Third, coupled with the achievement of American energy independence, the Trump Administration repeatedly called out European reliance on Russian energy resources, notably Germany’s pursuit of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.


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  95. the thing is that everybody these days seems to rush to an opinion based on some very loose information

    ridiculous reports
    contradictory gibber
    all of it purporting to be fact

    russia v democracy
    the dick-less v testosterone
    etc

    having functioning cahones means appreciating that a bunch of brain-dead mongs can, and will, think up the most retarded shit possible and then try to visit their idiocy on your world

    positioning one-self to be as far as one can be from their idiotic influence is non-trivial

    eat the bugs you clowns


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  96. slackster says:
    April 22, 2022 at 11:23 pm
    One of McClowns kids in hospital due to the “coof”
    Hope they get better soon
    Sorry for the even harsher lockdowns coming WA people

    One could ask if putting unnecessary vaccines in children could be causing damage to their robust natural immune response.


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  97. I saw the opposition diversity pick for agriculture on Michael Smith News.

    Same thing last time and Gillard then allowed the Greens to slip in highly damaging ideological regulations for their support.

    They made it compulsory for any agricultural chemical that was up for licence renewal to undergo a complete new registration process.This costs millions and chewed up staff time for the companies involved.

    The immediate damage was done to the supply of off patent generic chemicals. The margins are small for these products and so no company could justify the cost of reregistration. Highly effective and cheap products started to disappear from shelves.

    This was exactly as the Greens intended, death by bureaucratic regulation without publicly stating their extreme agenda.
    Our Labor girl is keeping the options open for a repeat performance.


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