Open Thread – Tuesday 26 April 2022


The Incredulity of Thomas, Caravaggio, 1601-02

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Winston Smith
April 26, 2022 6:41 pm

Boambee John:

Where is that, and what kind of foundations/surface went over the ditch?

It’s from a link earlier on the Cat – forgot who to hat tip.
The Yakka Munga Staion outside of Derby was bought by the Chinese and they did some unauthorised “Land Clearing.”
Of course they promised to never do it again.
To me that photo looks suspiciously like a dirt airstrip – common out there, but being rolled and graded for something heavier than a Cessna two seater.

Winston Smith
April 26, 2022 6:42 pm

Addit.
I’m trying to find the site on Google Earth but it ain’t easy.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 26, 2022 6:42 pm

Looks like John Ali has been pushing this barrow of being the secret digger for some years now:

2015: https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/greens-senator-penny-wright-has-told-parliament-john-alis-service-during-the-vietnam-war-has-been-ignored-by-successive-governments/news-story/14a62a10d2400177c16c78bf5d3f292d

2015: an argument for his cause from a Greens politician. Apparently he told her he couldn’t be conscripted because he was an apprentice. Also that he participated in regular Army patrols when he wasn’t driving trucks. https://greensmps.org.au/articles/senator-penny-wright-talks-about-australias-forgotten-veteran

1996 – arguing for a medal. See 7.13. http://www.vvaa.org.au/archives/minutes/1996_Congress_Minutes.pdf

rickw
rickw
April 26, 2022 6:43 pm

Looks like the “secret digger”

The job description sounds like plenty of things that civi contractors in Afghanistan and Iraq might have done. Turn up, do a job, here’s something to give you the satisfaction of being able to at least shoot back……

JC
JC
April 26, 2022 6:43 pm

Wally Dalí says:
April 26, 2022 at 4:15 pm

BoN- good get, details man.
JC- get a load of yourself. I can only assume you’ve just deleted Twitter?

It’s always a good idea that if you’re exchanging opinions with someone, it’s worthwhile explaining why you either agree or disagree. If you can’t then, just STFU.

miltonf
miltonf
April 26, 2022 6:45 pm

It’s strange isn’t how two bad smells that you thought had gone away decades ago have come back- Jimmy Carter and Bill Gates

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 26, 2022 6:45 pm

… being sounded out for the job was “one of the most homophobic experiences of my life”.

What Young Ted was expecting:
“Just pop on your unitard and give us two minutes of interpretive dance that best captures the essence of your father’s government.”
Later:
“That moved me to tears. Sorry,you haven’t got the job.”

rickw
rickw
April 26, 2022 6:46 pm

Anyone had any experience with JD 862’s?

That’s a scraper NOT a grader!

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 26, 2022 6:46 pm

Notable Celebrity Deaths of 2022:
https://www.usatoday.com/celebrity-deaths
Gee, there were a few youngsters among that lot.
I wonder what killed them?
Death due to NotCovidVax, perhaps?

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 26, 2022 6:49 pm

They have to balance support for Russia with avoiding Western sanctions which could impact Chinese prosperity.

Sanction China? Too funny. You know where umm I dunno maybe JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING WE NEED is manufactured? Yeah, we can just sanction China, no probs, I’m sure this won’t result in any number of unintended consequences that will blow back on us – let alone any reciprocal measures China could take – that would “impact [our] prosperity”.

Using the sanctions weapon on countries like Russia and China is totally nuts. The US and Australia are somewhat insulated from sanctioning Russia because we don’t trade so much with the Russkies, but the Euros are fucked come next winter. The German and Italian industrial bases that are the bedrock of European economic power need cheap energy to be competitive. The only short-medium term source of cheap energy available is Russian gas.

The West has started a war of economic attrition with deficits across the board against opponents that are swimming in surpluses across the board, including in the goods and commodities we need to sustain our economies. This is clearly an ill-advised strategy.

rickw
rickw
April 26, 2022 6:53 pm

Classic White House Dementia Pedo Lunatic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOV7TYKNO04

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 26, 2022 6:53 pm

Also that he participated in regular Army patrols when he wasn’t driving trucks

A truck driver, with no military training, participating in regular Army patrols…………

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
April 26, 2022 6:56 pm

Delta A, thanks, and shucks, too. I was feeling I’d had a bit of a negative day to stick my two bob’s in on Das Kat- what with having a snipe at JC and Russell Brand, and my half baked art angst from the distant Dali River, far from the perverting reaches of grants and festivals.
Rosie, good find on that link of yours. I’d note that most, if not all, of those femmes had benefited from studio apprenticeships, some from direct family instruction.
Min… sorry it might have been lost in the convolutuoions of the thread, but I was not positing that there were no females productive in the figurative vein of the Great Masters, just riffing on Bruce’s observation that there seemed to not be many.
I’m trying to think of who my favourite female painters are… I remember bombing out of a chat-up at a party in first year, naming Renee Magritte.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 26, 2022 6:58 pm

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for decoupling from China. However, this needs to be a very carefully managed process and would take years. I see no evidence of any such strategy being implemented. I do see a lot of careless talk about imposing sanctions that will have a similar effect as they will probably cause the Chinese to cut us off on their terms. Unfortunately, we aren’t at all well positioned to weather this.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 26, 2022 7:02 pm

From Top Ender’s post. Which entertainers, who spent a few days in the “Fun Factory” got a pension?

MURRAY Bridge man John Ali is being unfairly denied a pension for his service during the Vietnam War as a secret citizen-soldier, Senator Penny Wright claims.

The Greens senator has appealed to the Government to reconsider a decision not to award a war service pension to Mr Ali, 66, who has post-traumatic stress disorder.

The Advertiser reported in 2010 that Mr Ali, a diesel mechanic, had been denied a pension by successive governments despite being under the command of the Australian military and coming under fire.

Entertainers who spent a few days in Vietnam have been awarded pensions.

Mr Ali and six others had to secretly drive trucks laden with fuel and weapons from Vietnam to military bases in Cambodia during 1971-72, as part of a civilian aid program.

Roger
Roger
April 26, 2022 7:04 pm

China’s prosperity has been on the back of globalisation.

They’re now pursuing foreign policies that are escalating deglobalisation.

That’s not going to work out well for them.

duncanm
duncanm
April 26, 2022 7:06 pm

Maybe there’s hope in the libs.. From the candidate for Bennelong, Simon Kennedy.

The SMH and ABC are attempting an anti-vaxxer hit-piece on him.

The Liberal Party candidate for the Sydney seat of Bennelong has appeared in a video opposing vaccine mandates and acknowledging there may be concerns about the safety of mRNA vaccines at an event organised by Australia’s anti-lockdown movement.

“I’m pro-individual freedoms, I’m anti-mandates,” he says.
..

A male audience member asks him: “Enough that you would cross the floor if you saw our individual freedoms or your community’s individual freedoms, let’s say Bennelong, being breached?”

“Yep,” Kennedy responds.

Winston Smith
April 26, 2022 7:08 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

I suspect a lot of the stuff the Russians are doing right now is to produce results prior to the May 9 parade. Unfortunately war theaters rarely cooperate with the wishes of politicians, particularly since the enemy has a say in such things.

I’d forgotten that particular bit of tub thumping, Bruce.
What a splendid opportunity to embarrass the Poot!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 26, 2022 7:12 pm

They captured the airport and held it until they relieved by ground troops.

That was Plan B.

Plan A was a battalion drop at Andropov and a fast move to Kiev. Obliterated. Plan B was the rest of the VDV brigade, about 7000 guys. They were able to land and held on, just, with very heavy casualties. And were relieved by an armoured column from the Belarus border. Unfortunately the armour then ran out of gas, which prevented surrounding and besieging Kiev. The Ukrainians succeeded in denying resupply and refueling, which was why that strategic plan finally failed.

There was an incisive analysis of this a couple weeks ago, unfortunately I didn’t bookmark it. But I’ve captured the essentials. The Russian high command really believed they were freeing the Ukrainians from slavery or something. They were quite surprised by the hatred from the people in the towns and villages.

JC
JC
April 26, 2022 7:13 pm

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for decoupling from China.

Interesting idea and frequently bandied about.
The terms of trade are massively in our favor. Here:

Australia exports $167 billion to China and imports $83 billion from China. In other words, the two way trade relationship is massively in our favor. It’s double.

What does this do for us? It helps us import goods and services from other countries without having to run a trade deficit and a lower currency. We’ve partially thrown our living standards out the window by restricting our use of energy – substituting coal for plastic panels and windmills. Let’s not throw away the fat kid with the bath water as it will hurt.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 26, 2022 7:15 pm

Plans A, B, and C are effectively the same ‘plan’ cooked up by the West to establish a narrative of incompetence. Further, there is no difference between plans A and C. Finally, any purported ‘plan’ that doesn’t involve dealing with the UKR army in the south isn’t serious speculation.

OK.

But allegedly trying to tie up masses of UKR reserve troops around Kiev for 3-4 weeks when the main effort is claimed to be all in the South and West (and after some 7.5 weeks has not moved significantly beyond the Donetsk/Luhansk territories and forming a land bridge from Sebastopol to Kharkhov), then buggering off without having actually really decisively engaged or reduced said reserves in line with the apparent main effort to the East and South, does not work in with the Just As Vlad Bae Planned Narrative being presented.

They’d have been better off just getting stuck into UKR troops from Day One out of jumping-off points in the Crimea. Or getting shoved out of amphibious assault ships on the mouth of the Bug to take Odessa, or even shortening the assault on Mariupol by several weeks.

Roger
Roger
April 26, 2022 7:20 pm

Yep, massive failure.

Strategically it was a massive failure, regardless of how few troops they lost.

cohenite
April 26, 2022 7:24 pm

Dude, It was the alpha variant. It’s now as prehistoric as the dinosaurs.

Tyrannosaurus rex or Brontosaurus

Zipster
Zipster
April 26, 2022 7:24 pm

China’s prosperity has been on the back of globalisation.

They’re now pursuing foreign policies that are escalating deglobalisation.

That’s not going to work out well for them

they are doing it anyway. A year ago they probably thought they could invade taiwan without a big economic war and just threat of nukes. now they realise what they are up against. china will now attempt to decouple at whatever cost, its either that or give up on taiwan which will be yet another face losing exercise in the glorious march to china rejuvenation and global hegemon

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 26, 2022 7:25 pm

Had a relative who was a civi involved in overseas work for the ADF, he was not uniformed, didn’t carry a weapon but was in areas with unrest.

He was eligible for & awarded an OSM when they struck that medal. He does however have the official paperwork approving his tenure in theatre, visas, date stamps and further to that as he had a brother in theatre at the same time the HQ logs would have his attempts/eventual contact with his brother.

Apparently DFAT & the ADF have been doing this since for a while to plug holes. This other guy with the Cambodia story though has my spidey senses tingling, as soon as someone starts banging on about secret missions well…

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 26, 2022 7:31 pm

… china will now attempt to decouple at whatever cost, …

Presumably this does not include feeding everybody. Too bad if you are not one of those coming along for the ride.

Winston Smith
April 26, 2022 7:33 pm

Old Ozzie.
That list would re equip the Australian Army. (Apart from our tanks which would never be allowed anywhere the paintwork would get muddy.)

Roger
Roger
April 26, 2022 7:35 pm

they are doing it anyway.

Right….so both Putin and Xi are pursuing policies that favour ideology over the welfare of their people.

Anyone detecting a common theme here?

East & West?

Different ideologies, same outcome.

In the case of the West, at least, let’s see what the mid-terms bring. If it’s as expected, I call for two cheers for democracy!

rickw
rickw
April 26, 2022 7:36 pm

Australian Exports

Country Value Year
China $116.82B 2021
Japan $30.32B 2021
South Korea $22.59B 2021
India $13.62B 2021
United States $11.02B 2021
New Zealand $8.19B 2021
Vietnam $7.01B 2021
Indonesia $7.00B 2021
Singapore $6.57B 2021
Hong Kong $4.58B 2021
Thailand $4.23B 2021
Malaysia $4.21B 2021
United Kingdom$3.42B 2021

No need to decouple, a few less eggs in the one basket would be beneficial. India is probably under represented in terms of what it could be. Then again they’re insanely difficult to deal with.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 26, 2022 7:39 pm

Ed Casesays:
April 26, 2022 at 6:37 pm
A leaked call to Zelensky led to Trump’s Impeachment:

Trump is accused of withholding nearly $400 million of military assistance to Ukraine as well as a White House meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky unless the Ukrainian government opened investigations into Trump’s political adversaries, including former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter. A whistleblower complaint filed about the July 25 call, during which Trump raised the issue of investigations into his political adversaries while also discussing security assistance to Ukraine, kicked off the impeachment inquiry.

.1 Wasn’t this debunked by the transcript?

.2 How does itt compare to Hiden Biden boasting on TV of threatening to with hold aid unless an investigation into Grunter Biden was closed down?

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 26, 2022 7:44 pm

Winston

To me that photo looks suspiciously like a dirt airstrip – common out there, but being rolled and graded for something heavier than a Cessna two seater.

I would need a stereo pair to be sure, but it looked as if they were excavating to a depth of around a metre. That suggests an intention to lay foundations and a hard surface. Depending on the depth of the foundations (if any) and the surface laid, it could be a road threatened by seasonal flooding or some form of airstrip.

JC
JC
April 26, 2022 7:44 pm

Rickw

Why is your figure right and the one I posted incorrect for Oz exports to China?

What does country value year mean?

My figures suggest our combined trade is ~$25o billion a year. That’s close to 20% of our GDP yet you imply it would be no biggie closing that up and starting again with other countries. How you do without a pretty decent impact to our living standards?

Please clarify where your figure comes from?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 26, 2022 7:45 pm

(Apart from our tanks which would never be allowed anywhere the paintwork would get muddy.)

That’s entirely the pollies’ fault.

Not the Armoured Corps’….

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 26, 2022 7:48 pm

In the case of the West, at least, let’s see what the mid-terms bring. If it’s as expected, I call for two cheers for democracy!

Always back democracy. It has runs on the board and players in the shed. China has been on the slide for 1500 years with a bit of an uptick.

Cassie of Sydney
April 26, 2022 7:50 pm

Here’s a question. Who is worse…Malcolm Turnbull or Kevin Rudd.? Both are putrid individuals, absolute narcissists, married to putrid narcissistic women.

From The Oz.

“Malcolm Turnbull will not campaign for Liberal MP Dave Sharma in his former seat of Wentworth and has publicly left open the prospect of voting for ­independent candidate Allegra Spender.

The former prime minister said he would be “staying out of the election contest” in a media interview in which he described the signing of a security agreement between Beijing and ­Honiara as an “absolute failure of foreign policy” and called for Liberal Warringah candidate Katherine Deves to be disendorsed.

“My only contribution to the election in Wentworth will be to vote,” Mr Turnbull told ABC radio on Tuesday.

Asked who he would vote for, Mr Turnbull replied it was a ­“secret ballot” but both Mr Sharma and Ms Spender were “very good candidates”.

“Dave Sharma is a very talented guy. Allegra Spender is an outstanding candidate,” he said.”

It is clear who Turdbull will be voting for and it won’t be Sharma, the Liberal candidate. Note the Turd’s use of adjectives. Sharma is simply “talented” whereas Spender is “oustanding”. LOL.

Turnbull has also called for Deves to be disendorsed, calling her comments Twitter comments “hateful”…hmm, I note that he never condemned his own son’s obscene Twitter comments about Janet Albrechtsen’s sex life a few years ago. The Miserable Turd of Point Piper is a filthy hypocrite.

So here’s my answer. The miserable Turd of Point Piper is worse than Rudd, far worse. Rudd doesn’t dump on his own party the way Turnbull dumps on the Liberal party.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 26, 2022 7:56 pm

The Miserable Turd of Point Piper is a filthy hypocrite.

Malcolm Turnbull should have been publicly “drummed out” of the Liberal Party years ago.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 26, 2022 7:57 pm

Always back democracy. It has runs on the board and players in the shed. China has been on the slide for 1500 years with a bit of an uptick.

Wot HB said.

Though with the clarification that China cycles through several century-long cycles of alternating periods barbarism/warlordism and viciously autocratic total monarchy.

The CCP is just the latest of the later, and stands presently to be the shortest Imperial Dynasty in China’s recorded history and popular mythos to date…

132andBush
132andBush
April 26, 2022 7:59 pm

Tintarella di Luna says:
April 26, 2022 at 5:42 pm

Weeellllll hellloooo Cassie so glad to have you back. Now where is Mater?

He’s writing a book.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 26, 2022 7:59 pm

The CCP is just the latest of the latter

Missed a T…

#IPityTheFool

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 26, 2022 8:00 pm

Turnbull hasn’t dumped on the Liberal Party, that’s what you’re doing all the time.
He’s stayed out of it, complimented Dave Sharma and sensibly called for Katherine Deves to be disendorsed.
Kevin Rudd, on the other hand, is a warmongering arsehole.

Winston Smith
April 26, 2022 8:00 pm

Oh come on:

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for decoupling from China. However, this needs to be a very carefully managed process and would take years.

If China were to get stroppy, the process would take as long as it took to stop the boats leaving port.
You want the people who made such a screw up of the last flu season to be in charge of something important?
Just leave it to the market – it will get sorted out in 1/10th the time and 1/10th the cost.

I see no evidence of any such strategy being implemented.

You don’t call the refurbishing of the US/European/SEA domestic industries as evidence of strategic implementation?
Just because the Governments aren’t making speeches doesn’t mean the change isn’t happening.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 26, 2022 8:01 pm

He’s writing a book.

Put me down for a signed copy?

Zipster
Zipster
April 26, 2022 8:01 pm

Further explosions reported in majority Russian-speaking Moldovan breakaway state Transnistria as Moldovan President calls for Security Council

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 26, 2022 8:02 pm

Rudd doesn’t dump on his own party …
He wouldn’t be game to, that’s why.

Winston Smith
April 26, 2022 8:06 pm

Rex/Bruce:
About the airport drop.
The armour relieved the paradrop but ran out of fuel?
I find that difficult to understand.
Apart from aircraft, the biggest thing you find at an airport is fuel.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
April 26, 2022 8:07 pm

This shows what the Stalinst pervert thuggocracy in Yarragrad really thinks of indigenous peoples when the cameras aren’t running to record their virtue signalling:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-26/veronica-nelson-aboriginal-death-in-custody-coronial-inquest/100971956

The Hunchback and its minions will be especially angry because this is what was supposed to happen to Pell when he was in their custody -with the independent and apolitical Mr John Cain elevated from the OPP to be chief coroner in the County Court to supervise the inquest.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 26, 2022 8:07 pm

Who is worse…Malcolm Turnbull or Kevin Rudd.?

No question. Lord Waffleworth. KRudd is a narcissistic, ineffectual fop whose rise managed to coincide with the Liars seemingly never ending search for a messiah. Waffleworth is malevolent and noticeably falls out with everybody who has the misfortune to deal with him. The Lieborals stand condemned for not expelling him.

calli
calli
April 26, 2022 8:08 pm

It was the Diamond Princess where only 20% of people on board caught coof despite being stuck on board for a month because the Japs wouldn’t let them off. Best empirical experiment so far in this whole sorry situation.

Yes. It was unique. And a little too well publicised for comfort.

Tonight we had dinner at the Big Winch, where we were treated to a beautiful and very photogenic sunset.

As I sat and sipped my shiraz, the stars began to blossom in the skyfields (h/tTolkien). The first to be apparent was Sirius, followed by Orion’s knees and shoulders, and finally, his belt. I thought of MarkA who used to comment at OldCat, Orion being his avatar.

The stars are bright out here. I am looking forward to even less light pollution at Curtin Springs. The Beloved and I reminisced about our yoof, when we would watch the heavenly host wheel above us at Menangle, awaiting a magical shooting star.

calli
calli
April 26, 2022 8:11 pm

Ha! A happy and positive page podium.

Excellent timing. 😀

More Tolkien:

Though here at journey’s end I lie
in darkness buried deep,
beyond all towers strong and high,
beyond all mountains steep,
above all shadows rides the Sun
and Stars for ever dwell:
I will not say the Day is done,
nor bid the Stars farewell.

miltonf
miltonf
April 26, 2022 8:13 pm

So here’s my answer. The miserable Turd of Point Piper is worse than Rudd, far worse. Rudd doesn’t dump on his own party the way Turnbull dumps on the Liberal party.

Correct and the lieboral party hasn’t expelled him if I’m not mistaken. What kind of a party welcomes, promotes and put in charge some who despises it?

miltonf
miltonf
April 26, 2022 8:14 pm

Sounds delightful Calli.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 26, 2022 8:15 pm

About the airport drop.
The armour relieved the paradrop but ran out of fuel?
I find that difficult to understand.
Apart from aircraft, the biggest thing you find at an airport is fuel.

Potentially wrong fuel source. Most military-grade diesel and turbine engines are nominally multi-fuel, but that does not guarantee peak mechanical performance or maximum range.

Plus the possibility of insufficient volume at the destination point vs. consumption during road runs, advancing to contact and actual combat. As well as mechanical wear and tear, availability of appropriate POL handling equipment and trained soldiers.

And then there’s the enemy’s say on the matter in the form of resistance, sabotage, interdiction ops against the Russians’ own logistical trains and so forth.

The desperate German advances and their supporting efforts (like the Luftwaffe’s Operation Bodenplatte) through the Ardennes towards Aachen and Antwerp at the very end of 1944, in the hope of scoring Allied fuel dumps and other logistical bonanzas along the way suffered much the same problems.

bespoke
bespoke
April 26, 2022 8:16 pm

The liberation of Twitter from the fascists is reminding me of the fall of the Berlin Wall.

How?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 26, 2022 8:16 pm

How Xi’s draconian rules unravelled into catastrophe

With millions locked down in Shanghai and fears of a similar fate for Beijing, Chinese authorities are playing an increasingly desperate game of cat and mouse with COVID-19.

Some 1125 kilometres away away in Beijing, a mass coronavirus testing order in 11 of the capital’s 16 districts – despite just 70 cases being identified since Friday – has prompted residents to panic-buy groceries, fearing they too may soon face weeks trapped at home.

The thought of China’s largest and wealthiest cities stuck in indefinite lockdowns has triggered turmoil in the financial markets, with the blue-chip CSI 300 index tumbling 4.9 per cent on Monday, its steepest one-day loss since the initial virus lockdown in Wuhan. The fall underlines a fear among investors that the latest draconian restrictions are set to eat into profits and economic growth.

Yet President Xi Jinping appears more wedded than ever to his zero-COVID-19 strategy.

“There is a health logic and a political logic that justifies the continued strategy,” says Dr Yanzhong Huang, a senior fellow for global health at the US Council on Foreign Relations. “They’re not even considering co-existence with the virus as an option right now.”

Huang pointed to comments made last week by Dr Liang Wannian, head of the expert panel leading China’s COVID-19 response.

During a briefing in Beijing, Liang said it would be a “huge disaster” if China relaxed restrictions, describing the zero-COVID-19 policy as “insurance for the 1.4 billion people” living in the country.

“The key is to effectively recognise and manage the source of transmission, cut transmission chains, and protect vulnerable groups so that the outbreak does not rebound on a large scale,” he added.

Culture-linked vaccine hesitancy

“Zero-COVID-19 is Xi’s policy,” says Tsang. “Xi does not make mistakes and cannot be seen to make mistakes. It cannot be changed unless Xi says otherwise. We know already that some senior Chinese medical and health services are uncomfortable with it and that there are political leaders who think the policy should not go on any longer.

“But they cannot change it because changing it means challenging the big boss – and there is nothing more dangerous you can do.”

Cassie of Sydney
April 26, 2022 8:16 pm

” The Lieborals stand condemned for not expelling him.”

Yep. Yet the party doesn’t hesitate in expelling others that cross them. Earlier this month the NSW Liberal Party expelled a member, Sydney businessman Matthew Camenzuli, because he challenged Scott Morrison’s federal intervention in the NSW division and Morrison’s captain picks.

Meanwhile the Miserable Turd of Point Piper continues dumping on the party and nobody does anything.

In fact I think the Liberal Party would earn a few kudos if they did expel the Miserable Turd of Point Piper….but they’re gutless cowards.

calli
calli
April 26, 2022 8:17 pm

So here’s my answer. The miserable Turd of Point Piper is worse than Rudd, far worse. Rudd doesn’t dump on his own party the way Turnbull dumps on the Liberal party.

Rudd is Labor’s laughing stock.

Turnbull is the Lib’s eternal shame.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 26, 2022 8:18 pm

End of the wet season so we spent days in East Timor wading through raging rivers on the “bus” trip from Bacau to Dili in what was then still a Portuguese colony.

Areff, I did that trip too, in early 1969. Put something up on Quadrant about it a while back in comments on an amusing memoir piece by TT (I think) about Timor.

Sitting here in the shabby getaway lounge (where Emirates sends temporarily send its Bus Class passengers; not a mask in sight here, although the airport was fully masked and policed for it.
See you in the UK. We have stocked up on duty free for the duration.

I don’t intend to wear one on the plane.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 26, 2022 8:18 pm

Yes. It was unique. And a little too well publicised for comfort.

Que? That datum was buried about a week after it became apparent. Only plebs like we Cats kept memory if it.

I am not vaccinated and have not as far as I can tell had coof. I may be one of the 80%, I dunno.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 26, 2022 8:18 pm

The Hunchback and its minions will be especially angry because this is what was supposed to happen to Pell when he was in their custody -with the independent and apolitical Mr John Cain elevated from the OPP to be chief coroner in the County Court to supervise the inquest.
Idiot O’clock arrives early tonight.

Crossie
Crossie
April 26, 2022 8:19 pm

Something has been bothering me for some time about female subjects of classical paintings from the renaissance. So many of them are painted with bug eyes which are a classical indicator of thyroid disease. Surely the painters painted what they saw rather than all adopting a bug-eyed style for females.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 26, 2022 8:22 pm

So many of them are painted with bug eyes which are a classical indicator of thyroid disease. Surely the painters painted what they saw rather than all adopting a bug-eyed style for females.

Artists routinely paint people with larger than normal eyes. It makes them look attractive. We are captive to our genes in this.

calli
calli
April 26, 2022 8:22 pm

Que? That datum was buried about a week after it became apparent. Only plebs like we Cats kept memory if it.

We are not alone, Bruce. The data remains. The fact that we know it means it was a “little too well publicised”.

Sure, the knowledge of the truth is narrow. But it is there.

rickw
rickw
April 26, 2022 8:24 pm

ANZAC Day Feedback on the Hunchback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGnK4dbm6iw

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
April 26, 2022 8:25 pm

…what, compound eyes on stalks?

C.L.
C.L.
April 26, 2022 8:25 pm

Paul Murray can’t keep this up. He’ll have a heart attack.
Earlier, Piers Morgan told Andrew Bolt the 2020 US election was totes above board and he’s glad he went after Trump on the subject.
They bumped lovely Rita for this bloke? I don’t get it.

rickw
rickw
April 26, 2022 8:27 pm

It was the Diamond Princess where only 20% of people on board caught coof despite being stuck on board for a month because the Japs wouldn’t let them off. Best empirical experiment so far in this whole sorry situation.

In a just world, this data set and the time at which it was available would see many Australian Politicians and Bureaucrats in prison.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 26, 2022 8:28 pm

I will not say the Dan is done,
nor bid the Stairs farewell.

heheh

miltonf
miltonf
April 26, 2022 8:30 pm

They bumped lovely Rita for this bloke? I don’t get it.

orders from on high- don’t give them your money. I always said they can stick pay TV up their bum hole.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
April 26, 2022 8:30 pm

Ye Olde Human Portraiture is heaps good fun study of morals and mores. From pubeless chunky lovelies to the rampant distortion becoming apparent in the Hapsburg monarchy, there’s a wealth of wierdness.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 26, 2022 8:33 pm

I don’t intend to wear one on the plane.

Ask the stewardess for a straw for your libation of choice, and stick it in your mouth every time one subsequently comes past.

You don’t even need to sip. 🙂

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 26, 2022 8:37 pm

The fact that we know it means it was a “little too well publicised”.

You seem to mean a “little too not publicized”.

The Diamond Princess fact that 80% of the population don’t catch (alpha) coof, or have no symptoms, destroys the entire approach of the powers-that-be since about March 2020. And destroys the whole useless vaccination schtick.

Unfortunately the vaccine, as I have said, seems to strip out the original immunity, so vaccinated people then catch it after about 3 or 4 months. Not dangerously but they do seem to be susceptible to it whereas unvaccinated people have a lot less chance. That’s my observation, which you are very welcome to overturn if you can.

Pfizer COVID-19 third dose vaccine protection against hospitalization from omicron wanes after 3 months: study (MedXpress, 23 Apr)

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 26, 2022 8:37 pm

Artists routinely paint people with larger than normal eyes. It makes them look attractive. We are captive to our genes in this.

Bastard.

Then there’s those disturbingly endearing things babies do…

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 26, 2022 8:38 pm

Ed Casesays:
April 26, 2022 at 8:00 pm
Turnbull hasn’t dumped on the Liberal Party, that’s what you’re doing all the time.
He’s stayed out of it, complimented Dave Sharma and sensibly called for Katherine Deves to be disendorsed.

Dickless

Clearly you are suffering from short term memory loss if you can’t recall the many times since he lost the PMship that the “Miserable Ghost”(his words) has dumped on the Liberal Party.

There are specialist doctors who might be able to help you.

cohenite
April 26, 2022 8:40 pm

So here’s my answer. The miserable Turd of Point Piper is worse than Rudd, far worse. Rudd doesn’t dump on his own party the way Turnbull dumps on the Liberal party.

And that the lnp don’t kick the creep out speaks volumes about them; and little johnnie who persuaded him to stay. Howard in retrospect is a close second to turdball.

calli
calli
April 26, 2022 8:43 pm

I think we are in agreement, Bruce. Simply approaching the issue from different ends and coming to the same conclusion.

I am vaccinated and haven’t had it either. Or if I have, it has been extremely mild. Not testing, so how would I know?

132andBush
132andBush
April 26, 2022 8:45 pm

The Diamond Princess fact that 80% of the population don’t catch (alpha) coof, or have no symptoms, destroys the entire approach of the powers-that-be since about March 2020. And destroys the whole useless vaccination schtick.

Further verified by country wide data from the US which showed, from memory, 11% of people infected after the first year (range of 9% to 13% depending on state).
Can’t be fagged looking for a source but it’s there.

Bluey
Bluey
April 26, 2022 8:45 pm

rickwsays:
April 26, 2022 at 8:24 pm
ANZAC Day Feedback on the Hunchback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGnK4dbm6iw

Would uptick more than once.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 26, 2022 8:47 pm

John Ali. The secret soldier.

Correction. The secret civilian/armed civilian/truck driver/infanteer.

Just wondering why he hasn’t been hauled over the coals for breaching the ‘Secrecy Act’ that he said he signed.

The Commonwealth Crimes Act 1914 has sections 70 and 79 that deal with this, but it only applies to ‘Commonwealth Officers’. Part VII of that Act deals with ‘official secrets and unlawful soundings’.

There was an Official Secrets Act but it was repealed and replaced in part by Part 5.6 of the Commonwealth Criminal Code Act 1995. Again, it deals with ‘Commonwealth Officers’.

I don’t know whether diggers sent overseas were or are classified as Commonwealth Officers, but I would find it hard to believe a civvy truckie would fall into this category.

He either signed it and it still applies – in which case he’s fucked; or
He didn’t sign it but said he did – in which case he’s fucked; or
He signed it and but it doesn’t apply, in which case he can go into very explicit detail about what, when, where, who, how and why. So can the Government – if this is the case.

I smell horseshit, and lots of it. This bloke makes Liability Bob look like Bob Buick, who won a Military Medal at Long Tan.

I look forward to Mr Ali’s book, and I trust the title mentions jellybeans.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 26, 2022 8:47 pm

Idiot O’clock arrives early tonight.

And it always arrives with you, Dickless.

JC
JC
April 26, 2022 8:47 pm

rickw says:
April 26, 2022 at 8:27 pm
It was the Diamond Princess where only 20% of people on board caught coof despite being stuck on board for a month because the Japs wouldn’t let them off. Best empirical experiment so far in this whole sorry situation.

In a just world, this data set and the time at which it was available would see many Australian Politicians and Bureaucrats in prison.

Anti-body sampling/testing has shown the Princess was an aberration. In the real world- not an ocean liner- the infected population is much, much lower.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 26, 2022 8:48 pm

There are specialist doctors who might be able to help you.

We’ll send him to a BRWAIIIIN SPESHULIZZT!

(Heaven help us, the YouToobz has blocked off the entire sketch! 🙁 )

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 26, 2022 8:53 pm

No Calli. My observation is the Diamond Princess data has been buried behind a locked door in a toilet with a sign saying Beware The Leopard on it. The data is clear as crystal. I am sick of putting clear as crystal data in front of people who look at it like it is written in bloody Sandskrit and haven’t the training to understand datasets. Yet earn magnitudes more than I ever did. We, as a civilization, are so totally rooted it isn’t funny.

/rant

calli
calli
April 26, 2022 8:54 pm

In the real world- not an ocean liner- the infected population is much, much lower.

Should we conclude that the DT was a “worst case scenario”? Including hospitalisation/morbidity?

That would mean the official response was even more outlandish.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 26, 2022 8:55 pm

Hooray for DailyMotion, Cats!

Grigory goes to the DOCTUH! Circa 1974, colourised

#MyBrainHurts

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 26, 2022 8:59 pm

There was an Official Secrets Act

It was actually a breach of the “Official Secrets Act” to even reveal the existence of that Act!

JC
JC
April 26, 2022 9:02 pm

Diamond Princess = battery tech advancements.

132andBush
132andBush
April 26, 2022 9:03 pm

Should we conclude that the DT was a “worst case scenario”? Including hospitalisation/morbidity?

That would mean the official response was even more outlandish.

That’s exactly what we can conclude.
This data was available by early April 2020.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 26, 2022 9:03 pm

I smell horseshit, and lots of it.

After reading the claims this rooster made to the Greens Senator, I agree with you.

rickw
rickw
April 26, 2022 9:04 pm

Will Australian’s ever get a chance to put on the public record what the COVID vaccines did to them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNuvsl67tmw

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 26, 2022 9:06 pm

There was an Official Secrets Act

There’ll be something of that nature somewhere, and – to be clear, I am speculating – this may only apply to proper SF types who drink out of fake legs. It may apply to infantry – it will certainly apply to Intel and some RASIGS people.

I don’t know if any of the above people fall into the ‘Commonwealth Officers’ category.

I DO know Mr Ali’s story has all the hallmarks of those found on the ANZMI site before they got shopped, and am therefore suspicious.

If he claims he used to be a clearance diver as well – that’s another big old red flag.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 26, 2022 9:11 pm

Sure, they planned to drop a battalion without the rest of the VDV or relieving ground troops. This isn’t serious.

Dover, totally serious. Plan A was a battalion at the closest airport tasked to rapidly move to Kiev CBD and take over the administrative apparatus. Very like the Vichy takeover. Predicated on no resistance. Unfortunately there was a whole regiment of Ukrainians ready and waiting who turned that Bn to literal mincemeat.

Then the second air-landing wave arrived for Plan B. That’s when the Ukrainians shot down two full transports containing two companies of VDV guys. It got worse after that, since the Ukrainians then had their rapid reaction battalion arrive – about 3 hours after the first paradrop. Which is exceptionally fast. It was very bad for the Russians, but as the elite of their army they held the counterattack. Lack of supply though snookered them after the cavalry arrived 48 hours later.

You’re going to make me find the strategic analysis that I saw two weeks ago now. Which is going to be hard. Grr.

Winston Smith
April 26, 2022 9:15 pm

Rex:

Operation Bodenplatte

What a frigging cluster that was.
Galland had managed to get together most of his 1,000 fighters to break up and destroy the US bomber daylight formations and something that could have reduced the bombing of Germany for a month or so was pissed away for a handful of Allied aircraft that were probably replaced within a couple of days.
I have a couple of books on this particular operation – The Last Year of the Luftwaffe” by Alfred Price is replete with many, many, tables and backgrounds. “Battle of the Airfields by Norman Franks has both sides on the day well covered.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 26, 2022 9:15 pm

I DO know Mr Ali’s story has all the hallmarks of those found on the ANZMI site before they got shopped,

Pity ANZMI got shopped – I knew three of the fvcking scoundrels on that site..

JC
JC
April 26, 2022 9:16 pm

That’s exactly what we can conclude.
This data was available by early April 2020.

How confident were you in April 2020, Bush?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 26, 2022 9:22 pm

Ewwwww (the NT News):

THE details of a Darwin man’s alleged bestiality and animal cruelty are so depraved they would “offend against public decency” if published, a court has ruled.

The 51-year-old faced the Darwin Local Court on Tuesday where his barrister, Mary Chalmers SC, applied for any details of the alleged offending to be suppressed from publication.

I don’t know what this bloke’s done, but clearly it is worse than anything they’re proposing to show six year olds in primary school. If this is the case, that chap is right off the scale.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 26, 2022 9:24 pm

Ok, here’s a report from 25 Feb. The first para Bn landed and then the reaction Bn from the Ukrainians arrived.

Not the overall report I wanted, but the first phase as it happened.

cohenite
April 26, 2022 9:29 pm

Why Durham prosecuting the swamp won’t happen:

All three current cases of Durham’s have highlighted the tight-knit nature of the federal judicial and law enforcement community in the D.C. area.

The judge in the Clinesmith case, James Boasberg, sits on the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that approved spying on Page based primarily on the Steele dossier and partly on the false information provided by Clinesmith.

The judge in the Danchenko case, Anthony Trenga, presided over the Mueller-brought case against former business partner of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, former national security adviser to President Donald Trump. Trenga threw out the conviction in that case for a lack of evidence.

The judge in the Sussmann case, Christopher Reid Cooper, used to be a colleague of Sussmann’s at the DOJ. His wife, Amy Jeffress, is a lawyer for Lisa Page, formerly a high-level FBI attorney who’s now suing the DOJ. Page was deeply embedded in the Russia investigation. She was also a mistress of Peter Strzok, former head of FBI counterintelligence operations and a point man in the Russia probe. Cooper and Jeffress also have close ties to the Democratic Party. Cooper served on the 2008 transition team of President Barack Obama, Jeffress spent 20 years at the DOJ and was a national security counselor for Obama’s Attorney General Eric Holder, and their wedding was officiated by Merrick Garland, the current Attorney General.

Zipster
Zipster
April 26, 2022 9:30 pm
Zipster
Zipster
April 26, 2022 9:33 pm

The more COVID shots people have, the more they guaranteed to die from AIDS.

the gp120 insert is a worry

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 26, 2022 9:34 pm

Piers Morgan.

Brett Lee should have broken Morgan’s jaw when he had him in the nets a few years ago.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 26, 2022 9:36 pm

cohenite

There seems to be a level of political incest in Washington that makes the Liars Party seem chaste.

132andBush
132andBush
April 26, 2022 9:37 pm

JC,
Very.
I still have a txt conversation I had with a spouse of a Federal Senate member.

They were in panic mode.

I stated that everyone over 70 needed to isolate as well as those who care for them. Stop all international arrivals. Stop large sporting events. Everything else to continue as normal but keep to ourselves as much as possible. Schools to stay open.
Basically in line with what Mater and others posted at the time.
Just looked at my txts and that was on the 22nd March 2020!

There was no reasoning with this person because “everyone was going to die”.
Which was already, demonstrably, WRONG.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 26, 2022 9:38 pm

I used know a real clearance diver, ex RN. Left to work on oil rigs as a diver. Got paid 10 times what he earned in the navy. His mum used to worry he’d get blown up, then when he told her he got bumped by sharks she worried he’d get eaten.

Zipster
Zipster
April 26, 2022 9:42 pm

Unfortunately the vaccine, as I have said, seems to strip out the original immunity, so vaccinated people then catch it after about 3 or 4 months. Not dangerously but they do seem to be susceptible to it whereas unvaccinated people have a lot less chance. That’s my observation, which you are very welcome to overturn if you can.

I have this funny little theory that the immune system does not recognise the spike protein as anything more than a mere toxin and not a viral infection and deals with it quite differently. It could be the lack of escalation of the spike protein fragments you would get from a viral infection or it could be the lack of diversity of signals from the various proteins on the virus.

Whats clear is this is not a working vaccine and this bioweapon hasn’t gone anywhere.

Winston Smith
April 26, 2022 9:44 pm

https://www.theepochtimes.com/more-secret-gender-transition-closets-discovered-in-public-schools_4414184.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_campaign=mb-2022-04-27&utm_medium=email&est=JdlpP%2BHzR27m9JZukfqNVEUrIlNsWc4Lxn8FIfTHPMz6SHtW4FjH7oN7kcl0yPoG

They started in colleges, but trans closets—rooms stocked with transgender clothes and accessories for students to change into after arriving to school and back out of before going home—are being discovered in public schools with some indication they are being kept a secret from parents.

At this point, criminal charges need to be laid.

Zipster
Zipster
April 26, 2022 9:45 pm

There was no reasoning with this person because “everyone was going to die”.
Which was already, demonstrably, WRONG.

What we had was either a massive failure of intelligence or outright treason.

china allowed a flood of catastrophic videos out to scare the shit out of the west.

We were played like a bunch of noobs.

calli
calli
April 26, 2022 9:48 pm

this bioweapon hasn’t gone anywhere.

In one sense it has.

It has proved that entire populations can be suppressed and incarcerated, their behaviour modified and controlled.

The big question…will it work again?

John H.
John H.
April 26, 2022 9:48 pm

Indolentsays:
April 26, 2022 at 9:26 pm
The more COVID shots people have, the more they guaranteed to die from AIDS.

Nuts.

duncanm
duncanm
April 26, 2022 9:51 pm
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 26, 2022 9:53 pm

The big question…will it work again?

Frightening the peasants has worked for at least a century, as the H. L. Mencken quote shows.

There are signs that it has stopped working on some of us. And the more they try it, the more irritated we get.

Winston Smith
April 26, 2022 9:54 pm

Two Coptic Christian men were kicked and beaten in Turin, Italy for smoking during Ramadan. The two elderly men, 62 and 70, were standing in the Corso Vigenano smoking when they were attacked by angry Muslims in the street.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 26, 2022 9:56 pm

Winston

Nothing like a bit of “cultural enrichment” to put some spice into life?

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 26, 2022 10:02 pm

I don’t know what this bloke’s done …

Taking man’s best friend a bit too literally. Something we haven’t seen in the press since those NRL scallywags a couple of years back.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 26, 2022 10:02 pm

Ok I’ve got it. Here’s the whole thread which you can read if you want to. I’ve pulled a lot out of it to give you the argument:

Tomi T Ahonen Stands With Ukraine@tomiahonen · Apr 3
Battle of Kyiv Thread 2/

Because of Social Media, we have a unique ability to reconstruct history in near-real time, to know EXACTLY what happened and WHEN. And sort out the lies, propaganda and ‘fog of war’. Not WHILE it happens, but very shortly thereafter

This is my attempt

Battle of Kyiv Thread 6/
We know NOW that yes, Putin had a 4 hours plan to win the war in Ukraine

And his ‘Plan B’ was a 3 days plan to defeat Kyiv if the 4 hours plan somehow failed

He deployed both of these plans with MASSIVE military force, against Kyiv. We now know how

Battle of Kyiv Thread 7/

FOUR HOUR PLAN

Yes. There was a plan to defeat Ukraine in ‘four hours’. It could have worked. Russia (=Soviet Union) used this in Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia (1968) and Afghanistan (1979). Seize the capital, take the TV/radio, & declare on TV you won

Battle of Kyiv Thread 8/

Putin plan to defeat Ukraine in 4 hours involved an air assault force of 1,000 men taking Antonov Airport at Hostomel, then IL 76 transport planes would land 7,000 men and their armored vehicles, to take the Presidential Palace (& TV stations) in Kyiv

Battle of Kyiv Thread 9/

This bold plan to defeat Ukraine in 4 hours might have worked. Russia had done that before when toppling a government. About 30 Mil 17 transport helicopters and their escort helicopters attacked at dawn of Feb 24 & assaulted Antonov Airport

Battle of Kyiv Thread 10/

BATTLE OF ANTONOV AIRPORT

The first battle of the Ukraine War and first battle in the Battle for Kyiv was the Battle of Antonov Airport, 24-25 Feb 2022. Initial assault force arrived at dawn in about 30 Mil 17 helicopters & their attack helicopters

Battle of Kyiv Thread 11/

The assault force had airborne troops from either 11th or 35th Guards Air Assault Brigade. Some of their helicopters were shot down. The remaining force of about 1,000 elite paratroop units faced Ukraine’s 3rd Special Purpose Regiment waiting to defend

Battle of Kyiv Thread 12/

While this battle for the airport was under way, the main air assault force (7,000 more men & their armored vehicles) arrived over the airport in giant IL 76 transport cargo jets. They attempted to land. Ukraine shot down two IL 76. Landing was aborted

Battle of Kyiv Thread 13/

The IL 76 jets were diverted to nearest Russian-controlled airfield which was on the Belarus side of the border, town of Gomel (Homel)

Meanwhile Ukraine’s Kyiv defense sent 4th Rapid Reaction Brigade to reinforce the defenders who retook the airport

Battle of Kyiv Thread 14/

Antonov Airport, briefly in Russian hands in the morning of Feb 24, was now back in Ukrainian control by afternoon of Feb 24. They knew a large land invasion army was coming South from Belarus, and proceeded to destroy the runways of this airport

Battle of Kyiv Thread 15/

The Russian paratroops attacked Antonov Airport in a massive helicopter assault of 200 helicopters and about 5,000 men, taking the airport again, on Feb 25. But Ukraine defenders prevented their breakout encircling the airport.

Battle of Kyiv Thread 16/

The main army attacking Kyiv came overland with tanks and armor, the 35th Combined Arms Army. It fought itself to and through the perimeter of the Antonov airport & afternoon Feb 25 airport was in Russian hands. But now unusable so was pyrrhic victory

Battle of Kyiv Thread 18/

Putin Plan A was to defeat Ukraine in 4 hours. He launched a massive air assault with 8,000 elite paratroops, their armored vehicles, dozens of helicopters & dozens of giant cargo planes & DID seize the airport suitable for this mission

Plan A failed

Battle of Kyiv Thread 19/

PLAN B – ENCIRCLE KYIV

While Plan A was under way, ALSO Russia had prepared for Plan B, just in case

On same morning Feb 24, they launched the full assault on Kyiv, to take the capital city by force. And this plan was modeled on Grozny, Chechen War

Battle of Kyiv Thread 20/

In Putin’s first war (then as Prime Minister) the Second Chechen War 1999-2000, Putin encircled capital city of Chechnya, Grozny (pop 450,000). Laid a minefield around it. Bombarded it every day & night until literally every building destroyed.

Battle of Kyiv Thread 21/

This EXACT same Grozny battle plan is used by Putin today in Ukraine, in siege of Mariupol (pop 450,000)

To undestand Plan B for Kyiv, look at Mariupol. That was Putin’s Plan B for Kyiv (pop 3M). Not invade Kyiv but encircle it & then bombard to rubble

Battle of Kyiv Thread 22/

BATTLE OF KYIV

The Battle plan to take Kyiv was to send Russian 35th Combined Arms Army from Belarus to a staging town outside Kyiv (Hostomel just outside of Irpin) on Day 1. Then refuel. Then encircle Kyiv on Day 2. Start destruction of Kyiv on Day 3

Battle of Kyiv Thread 23/

Note, the Russians did not expect that Kyiv would capitulate after 3 days, only that in this battle plan, they would encircle Kyiv in 3 days, essentially guaranteeing Russia’s eventually destruction of Kyiv (six months to two years later) or surrender

Battle of Kyiv Thread 24/

The Battle of Kyiv plan needed only one significant element to work. The refueling of their tanks, armored vehicles & self-propelled artillery. The distance from Belarus border to Kyiv is EXACTLY the maximum fuel they could carry. Needed refueling

attle of Kyiv Thread 25/

If refueled after one day this 35th Combined Arms Army (that I estimated was roughly 70,000 men, 7,000 armored vehicles incl 2,100 tanks) would have enough fuel to complete the encirclement of Kyiv on Day 2, so to lay siege on Kyiv from 26th of February

Battle of Kyiv Thread 26/

Part 1 of this plan worked exactly as planned. The tanks crossed border into Ukraine on 24 February. By 25th February they had reached Hostomel, 13 miles (20km) from Kyiv. But they were out of fuel. They came to their designated refueling area…

Battle of Kyiv Thread 27/

Their promised fuel had not yet arrived. So they waited. They called up the convoy where that precious fuel was, and found out, the fuel trucks are less than an hour away. So they waited. And called an hour later. Delay. Four hours later. Still delayed

Battle of Kyiv Thread 28/

At some point the commander of 35th Combined Arms Army decided to postpone refueling to next day, told his troops to get some sleep. And called up his fuel trucks. They were still delayed, just 1 hour out, facing local resistance, it is a narrow road..

Battle of Kyiv Thread 29/

The 70,000 men and 7,000 armored vehicles attacked from Belarus border, crossed 70 miles (115km) & reached their Day 1 target on schedule

Had the fuel been there this army would have encircled Kyiv on Day 2. Something prevented that. The 40 mile convoy

Battle of Kyiv Thread 30/

BATTLE OF 40 MILE CONVOY

Had Russia figured out, on Feb 25, that this convoy of the fuel they needed, would never arrive, they would have ordered a replacement convoy, & received full fuel (and food and ammo) no later than Feb 28

Ukraine tricked them

Battle of Kyiv Thread 31/

With what would become known as ‘the 40 mile convoy’, the Ukrainian defenders of Kyiv, managed to play a cat-and-mouse game with gullible Russian commanders, to believe for TWO WEEKS that this convoy might reach the starved troops & tanks

It saved Kyiv

The analysis fits with what I’ve been reading from many sources. Plan A was a super quick move to Kiev from the airport to take over the reins of government. For which a single Bn was appropriate. The Ukrainians shot them to bits. Plan B was an air bridge to a brigade of paras. The defending Ukrainian regiments shot them up too, and prevented follow up landings. Plan C was then to have the heavies arrive from Belarus…which succeeded. But their fuel tankers never got to them, whereupon the whole offensive stalled for lack of fuel.

Winston Smith
April 26, 2022 10:03 pm

First, all of these problems are self-induced. They didn’t exist until Biden birthed them for ideological or political reasons. Apparently his administration wanted a changing, more favorable electorate and demography at any cost.

Second, Biden has no solutions to these self-created problems because of the ideological restraints the left has imposed on him.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/how-america-became-la-la-land_4424032.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_campaign=mb-2022-04-25&utm_medium=email&est=dOI5b5A00gWjQLKNXdAA15wrfkyjUvL0%2FIWLSrwi%2BwYKz0d2OVZ2ooLIhtkDgFmp

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 26, 2022 10:03 pm

Was this the summary/analysis of the Hostomel assault you were thinking of, Bruce?

https://www.aberfoylesecurity.com/?p=4812

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 26, 2022 10:04 pm

I leave behavioural economics to the pointy heads.

rosie
rosie
April 26, 2022 10:04 pm
Winston Smith
April 26, 2022 10:09 pm

Fauci Says “It’s a Bad Precedent” for the Judicial Branch to Check the Authority of the Biden Regime on Mask Mandates Because They Lack “Expertise”

MatrixTransform
April 26, 2022 10:10 pm

followed by Orion’s knees and shoulders

ah late autumn and the Pleiades are already down at sunset.

Curtin Springs is a nice joint … on yr way to the The Rock ?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Knuckle Dragger says: April 26, 2022 at 9:34 pm

Piers Morgan.
Brett Lee should have broken Morgan’s jaw when he had him in the nets a few years ago.

Saw Piers Morgan tonight for the first time.
I now support KD’s view.

Piers Morgan: Has there ever been a bigger wanker on our TV?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 26, 2022 10:11 pm

Sorry for the length. I really do think the RGS thought the Ukrainians would welcome the advancing guys. They’d fooled themselves into this view. Unfortunately it was a fantasy and they paid a heavy price. And are still. I have no idea who will technically win this mess, but I firmly believe both side are going to lose out of it, big time. Ukraine will fight on since losing by winning, or by drawing is better than losing by losing. Only Russia can stop this abomination, but I can’t see how Putin can survive doing so. It’s a real bummer.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 26, 2022 10:15 pm

If he claims he used to be a clearance diver as well – that’s another big old red flag.

“Mate, got twenty bucks so an ex digger can get a feed?”
“Ex digger? What unit were you?”
“Special Air Service.”
“Oh, O.K. what’s your Service number?’
” Forgot all that crap years ago.”
“O.K. so how’s me old mate Percy Gratwick getting on?”
“That’s a trick question, you’re trying to trick me.”

It’s an odd Special Air Service Regiment trooper who doesn’t know the name of the O’R’s boozer at Campbell Barracks….

bons
bons
April 26, 2022 10:15 pm

Returning to wonderful rural Anzac events, last year we found ourselves at Emu Park on the coast from Rocky.
They have done a brilliant job turning a whole coastal strip into a memorial focused on Australians, especially locals, in every WW1 theatre. Very high standard.
Their ANZAC service was classy, friendly and solemn, followed by great community events and food. It appeared to be the whole community that was involved.
The contrast to inner city sewer culture was stark.
Power lies in the wrong hands.

MatrixTransform
April 26, 2022 10:17 pm

Artists routinely paint people with larger than normal eyes. It makes them look attractive.

not my ex-wife … and she had a hyper-thyroid

there’s nothing worse than rabid feminist except a rabid-feminist with a hyper

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 26, 2022 10:17 pm

Turkeys like Morgan seem to work in the UK. Culturally I have my doubts that it will translate successfully to the Colonies. The closest we have is Kyle of Kyle & Jackie O whose success is inexplicable to me. Must be a Sydney thing. I don’t get that either.

MatrixTransform
April 26, 2022 10:18 pm

compound eyes on stalks?

yes … pretty much

Indolent
Indolent
April 26, 2022 10:22 pm
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
April 26, 2022 10:23 pm

Reminds me of the two shysters in There’s Something About Mary.
“An architect? Where are your buildings?”
“Well, have you ever been to Santiago?”
“Twice last year!”
“Oh… er, well, in the middle of the city there’s a train station…”
“Good lord, you worked on the Termini dal San Esteban!?!”
“well no there’s a little rococco hotel opposite down a laneway..
etc etc

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 26, 2022 10:25 pm

There’s Something About Mary

One of the great masterpieces of our time.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 26, 2022 10:26 pm

Was this the summary/analysis of the Hostomel assault you were thinking of, Bruce?

Rex – A lot of similarity, although that one is 8 Mar whereas the one I recalled and posted was almost a month later, with some more details filled in.

I was reminded a lot of the German landings on Crete. Different as our guys and the Kiwis had just evacuated from Greece without their artillery and vehicles, and were terribly disorganized. Yet they hammered the elite German paras so badly they never were seriously used again.

Winston Smith
April 26, 2022 10:28 pm

Boambee John:

Nothing like a bit of “cultural enrichment” to put some spice into life?

Right up to the point where the locals decide the provocations have stepped over the line and start ethnic cleansing – at which stage, the ones who created the problem play the victim card.
Successfully play the victim card, I notice.

Real Deal
Real Deal
April 26, 2022 10:32 pm

One of the great masterpieces of our time.

Agree with that. The best parts of that movie are Matt Dillon’s Pat Healey and Lee Evans as Tucker/Norm the Pizza Boy. The scene with Evans and the crutches was a masterpiece of physical comedy.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Pierce Morgan’s interview with Trump was….okay.
Woulda been a whole lot better if;
Morgan had not spoken over the top of Trump.
Morgan had not badgered Trump & had actually let him speak.
There was not the jerky stop/start effect from all of Trump’s answers being edited to 30% of their original wording.
The camera had actually been on Trump some of the time.
Morgan was not a complete wanker.

Trump performed brilliantly. I’m voting for him in 2024.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 26, 2022 10:43 pm

Daily Mail.

Aboriginal descendent of generations of Aussie diggers is reduced to tears as a member of the RSL REFUSES to let her lay an Indigenous flag at an Anzac Day service

Proud mother Cindy Roberts tried to drape Aboriginal flag at Anzac Day service
Local RSL member twice stopped and called in police to prevent her trying again
Ex-mayor called the reaction a ‘disappointing embarrassing over-reaction’
The flashpoint sparked a furious reaction online with many expressing regret

132andBush
132andBush
April 26, 2022 10:54 pm

The N word

Trump on dealing with Putin.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
April 26, 2022 10:54 pm

I often wonder whether the federal Libs still owe Turnbull money and are too skint to make him whole and expel him.

cohenite
April 26, 2022 10:57 pm

Aboriginal descendent of generations of Aussie diggers is reduced to tears as a member of the RSL REFUSES to let her lay an Indigenous flag at an Anzac Day service

For a while it seemed we might get through ANZAC without any of this bullshit. There is only ONE flag.

Zipster
Zipster
April 26, 2022 11:04 pm

EU weighs Russian oil price cap – media
Member states are reportedly discussing setting a ceiling on what they would pay

oh god, the comedy is incorrigible. can these euro clowns put on a better pantomime of a real government?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 26, 2022 11:07 pm

For a while it seemed we might get through ANZAC without any of this bullshit. There is only ONE flag.

Part of the reason she wanted to display the “First Nations” flag, was to commemorate her ancestors, who had fought in the “Frontier Wars.”

Zipster
Zipster
April 26, 2022 11:07 pm

Amazon founder Jeff Bezos has asked whether China gained “leverage” over Twitter after Tesla CEO Elon Musk bought the platform in a multi-billion dollar deal, though quickly walked back the comment.

Bezos took to social media on Monday to muse about Musk’s purchase of Twitter for $44 billion, insinuating the move might hand Beijing influence over the online “town square.”

“Interesting question. Did the Chinese government just gain a bit of leverage over the town square?” he asked, citing a post by New York Times reporter Mike Forsythe outlining Musk’s business dealings in China.

slackster
slackster
April 26, 2022 11:23 pm

2 people at work (both triple jabbed) have now tested positive for the 2nd time in 4 weeks.
They are only know beginning to question things

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 26, 2022 11:29 pm

From the Oz. I’ve posted the whole article.

Tunnel rat’s tale key to Ben Roberts-Smith case

Stephen Rice
NSW EDITOR
@riceyontheroad
2 hours ago April 26, 2022

If Ben Roberts-Smith has any hope of winning his so-far ­disastrous defamation case, the key may be a Kiwi-born SAS ­soldier who will give evidence about what he found when he crawled alone into a tunnel in ­Afghanistan hunting for Taliban insurgents, armed only with a ­pistol.

That display of raw courage by the slightly built soldier, echoing the feats of the “tunnel rats” of the Vietnam War, might otherwise have passed unremarked – one more act of unsung heroism in a long-forgotten skirmish.

But 13 years later it is set to play a defining role in the defamation action Mr Roberts-Smith has brought against the newspapers that branded him a war criminal.

The Victoria Cross recipient’s case looks shaky after a trail of witnesses for Nine newspapers have given damning evidence of murders, including the killing of two men said to have been dragged from the tunnel.

But at the halfway mark in the case, it is now the turn of Mr Roberts-Smith’s witnesses.

And the story they tell is a very different one.

The SAS soldier who crawled into the tunnel is codenamed ­Person 35.

His role in this story begins as SAS troops are sweeping through the Whiskey 108 compound – a known Taliban stronghold and arms depot, in Oruzgan province – on Easter Sunday 2009.

The soldiers almost missed the tunnel, but sweeping aside a ­suspicious-looking mound of hay, they discovered an iron grill covering a hole in the ground.

Several soldiers volunteered to go into the tunnel, according to the patrol commander, but Person 35 was the obvious choice; his smaller frame was better suited to navigate the confined space.

That was also the logic of the revered tunnel rats of the Vietnam War, where men drawn from the ranks of the Australian Army Engineers 3 Field Troop risked their lives searching Vietcong tunnels.

Like them, Person 35 knew the last thing he might ever see was the muzzle flash of an AK47 exploding in his face.

His bravery is not in doubt, but his account of what happened next is hotly disputed. He took off his body armour and helmet, laid down his rifle and, armed only with a 9mm pistol, squeezed into the tunnel.

When Person 35 re-emerged into the compound minutes later, according to the patrol commander, it was to declare the tunnel empty.

There was no one there.

If Person 35 tells the same story under oath in court in the coming days – he gave only a few minutes of evidence on Tuesday and returns on Wednesday – it will be a blow to the newspapers’ case.

At least three other soldiers have given evidence for the newspapers that they saw two unarmed Afghans taken from the tunnel, although their accounts vary in some details.

The FAMs – fighting age males – were said to be an older man with a beard and another with a prosthetic leg.

One Australian soldier claims to have seen Mr Roberts-Smith frogmarch the man with the prosthetic leg outside the compound, throw him to the ground and ­machine-gun him to death.

For his part, Mr Roberts-Smith has always emphatically denied that there were any men in the tunnel, or that they were ­executed.

Judge Anthony Besanko, presiding over the trial, may well take the view that a group of witnesses can have honest but different recollections of events they witnessed 13 years ago in the fog of battle.

But it will be difficult for him to go past the evidence of the man who actually went into the ­tunnel.

Some things are not easy to forget.

Person 35’s credibility is likely to be challenged.

Last week, it was alleged that Person 35 was the soldier pictured cavorting in a Ku Klux Klan outfit while brandishing a burning cross at the Fat Lady’s Arms, the un­official bar where some soldiers drank from the prosthetic leg of the man killed at Whiskey 108.

Another photo shows the hooded soldier holding a hangman’s noose.

Mr Roberts-Smith has several other witnesses who will testify in his defence.

But the tunnel rat’s testimony might well help make or break his case.

Dot
Dot
April 26, 2022 11:42 pm

2 people at work (both triple jabbed) have now tested positive for the 2nd time in 4 weeks.
They are only know beginning to question things

The upside is they might realise governments are nearly always full of shit, incompetent and ill equipped to solve many problems we trust them to solve.

slackster
slackster
April 27, 2022 12:03 am

Dotsays:
April 26, 2022 at 11:42 pm
The upside is they might realise governments are nearly always full of shit, incompetent and ill equipped to solve many problems we trust them to solve.

Baby steps but the first signs of awakening are there.

Winston Smith
April 27, 2022 12:40 am

Dot:

The upside is they might realise governments are nearly always full of shit, incompetent and ill equipped to solve many problems we trust them to solve.

…and in fact they are the causes of many of the problems we face.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The squeals of anguish continue:

Headline at the Financial Times

EU warns Elon Musk over Twitter moderation plans

rosie
rosie
April 27, 2022 3:24 am

Musk taking over has made a significant difference to my Twitter feed. A lot of people I follow had kinda disappeared for ages, now back.

Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
April 27, 2022 4:18 am
min
min
April 27, 2022 5:34 am

Haven’t read all the replies as yet , just woken up but re Turnbull and why he is still in the Liberal Party , 1 million dollars .
Party was broke and he ‘gave’ the million bucks when he was il capo but don’t know what stringsv were attached . They certainly can’t afford to give it back.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 27, 2022 5:37 am

132andBushsays:
April 26, 2022 at 7:59 pm
Tintarella di Luna says:
April 26, 2022 at 5:42 pm

Now where is Mater?

He’s writing a book.

Than you 123Bush

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 27, 2022 6:05 am

they might realise governments are nearly always full of shit, incompetent and ill equipped to solve many problems we trust them to solve

Dickless uptick.

We not only trust governments to solve these problems, but provide them endless amounts of hard-earned to do it with – only to see them fail time and time again, or divert those financial resources into other, unasked-for vanity projects.

Every single time – regardless of who holds the reins of power, it’s a gigantic shitshow of incompetence. Trillions of dollars’ worth of infrastructure and vast amounts of cash are given to failed local businessmen, bored housewives and people who’ve never had an actual job.

There’s no accountability. The muppets with their hands on the levers we give them never once take responsibility for their actions, and when they inevitably self-destruct it’s always someone else’s fault.

Like turtles, at the first hint of danger – or disapproval from unproductive sections of the community – they retract into shells of self-interest. Government ‘caretaker modes’ start six months after every election, State or Federal, and go on until the next one.

The primary reasons I believe governments at all levels aren’t nuts-deep in worldwide globalist conspiracies are:

1. There’s not enough in it for them personally. They’re invested enough to see themselves very well off into retirement, but not enough to care what France or Norway’s economies look like; and
2. Occam’s Razor. They are just too fucking stupid – any worldwide globalist conspiracy leader worth his salt wouldn’t trust the current crop with the steam off his shit.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 27, 2022 6:09 am

Your average poorly-cooked smallgoods purveyor with a pet monkey could do a better job than the hundreds of Masters degree and doctorate holders currently hamster-wheeling their way across the country.

PeterM
PeterM
April 27, 2022 6:28 am

Classic from Tim Blair:

Perhaps those whose houses have been incinerated should sue the Greens and others who locked up so much of the bush in national parks. There are more damn parks in this country than in South Korea’s National Assembly.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 27, 2022 6:32 am

From Herald Sun. Mentions a teacher who had bad reaction to first jab but can’t get an exemption.

More than 2500 Victorian teachers and support staff are due to be stood down on April 28 after failing to get their third vaccination jab, the Herald Sun can reveal.

All staff who work in Victorian schools are required to have three doses of a Covid-19 vaccine unless a medical exemption applies.

Victoria is the only state besides NT to have this rule

2dogs
April 27, 2022 6:36 am

EU warns Elon Musk over Twitter moderation plans

Thierry Breton said:

Anyone who wants to benefit from this market will have to fulfil our rules. The board [of Twitter] will have to make sure that if it operates in Europe it will have to fulfil the obligations, including moderation, open algorithms, freedom of speech, transparency in rules, obligations to comply with our own rules for hate speech, revenge porn [and] harassment

The highlighted portion is exactly what Elon is promising he will introduce.

So the question is, where has the enforcement of these EU rules been prior to Musk’s takeover?

2dogs
April 27, 2022 6:37 am

Dammit, my highlight of freedom of speech, transparency in rules, obligations disappeared.

2dogs
April 27, 2022 6:38 am

Aaargghh!!!

That was meant to be:

open algorithms, freedom of speech, transparency in rules

I should just give up.

feelthebern
feelthebern
April 27, 2022 6:41 am

Trans men’s eggs have been matured in the lab—and could help them have children

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/26/1051086/transgender-men-children/?truid=511cda4596687ad1e8c0a33a5309beb3&utm_source=the_download&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=the_download.unpaid.engagement&utm_term=Active%20Qualified&utm_content=04-26-2022&mc_cid=39ac057487&mc_eid=6cb9ef82da

The achievement, carried out by a team led by Evelyn Telfer, a reproductive biologist at the University of Edinburgh, suggests that viable eggs can be obtained from transgender men even after years of testosterone therapy, which can stop ovulation.

How does this get funding?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 27, 2022 6:47 am

Knuckles I gave an uptick for you and one for the monkey.

Gabor
Gabor
April 27, 2022 6:48 am

How does this get funding?

Precisely!

Cassie of Sydney
April 27, 2022 7:04 am

“Trans men’s eggs have been matured in the lab—and could help them have children”

Brave New World.

Dystopian New World.

Frightening New World.

Anchor What
Anchor What
April 27, 2022 7:14 am

Are the Republicans doing enough to avoid another round of ballot shenanigans in November 2022?
I’d say there’s no depth of deception that Dems will attempt in order to limit the damage.
Steve Feinstein at American Thinker:
… the really major drivers of Democrat vote fraud still appear to be in place:

*Widespread distribution of mail-in ballots to addressees who don’t exist, have died or no longer live at that address
*Voting machines subject to manipulation from many sources, connected to the Internet despite repeated denials
*Voter drop boxes that can be tampered with and the votes changed
*Ballot harvesting in nursing homes, retirement communities and the like by Democrat operatives
*State laws having been illegally changed to allow vote counting to continue days after the election
*Early voting, even as much as a full 30 days before the election
*Automatic voter registration by state DMVs upon issuing a driver’s license, revealing the true intent behind the Democrats’ push for licenses for illegal immigrants
*No nationwide voter ID. Somehow, Democrats are fine with everyone having a Covid vaccination card, but not a voter ID.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 27, 2022 7:30 am

Why is Matt Margolis’ Hillary! dragon Japanese?
Is he suggesting she’s fronting some sort of American zaibatsu?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 27, 2022 7:45 am

Maybe they should just call it ganja instead.

Washington State Bans Use of Word ‘Marijuana’ Over Racist Connotations (26 Apr)

While they’re at it they should rename bongs to “diversity enhancing inhalation devices”.

rosie
rosie
April 27, 2022 7:54 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
April 27, 2022 7:56 am

“Interesting question. Did the Chinese government just gain a bit of leverage over the town square?” he asked, citing a post by New York Times reporter Mike Forsythe outlining Musk’s business dealings in China.

Bezos seems much less interested in whether the Chinese government gained influence over Biden through its business dealings with Grunter (with 10% for the “big guy”).

rosie
rosie
April 27, 2022 7:57 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 27, 2022 8:02 am
min
min
April 27, 2022 8:07 am

Transgender eggs Granddaughter has just presented research on retaining eggs from teenagers who become infertile after treatment for cancer. The cost is very high , eg storage and then the IVF . Ethically and morally these girls or transgender?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 27, 2022 8:08 am

Not sure if I am looking at it right, but is the Christian Adams cartoon trying to indicate that Musk wants to put Twitter into a cage?

It has been funny watching the left go into meltdown over Twitter possibly being freed from censorship. They talk about ‘bad’ ideas and ‘wrong’ ideas being allowed to be proliferated – they assume their own ideas are virtuous and right. Oh, and hatred.

Well, I suppose everyone believes they are right at one level. What would it be like to say “I believe x, but I know it is not true.” Which is why part of growing up involves looking at yourself from the outside and consider the possibility being in error. “I believe x. But what if I am wrong?”

Lefties seem not to have learned that last bit. They do not imagine they can be wrong. Everybody else can be: “I believe in x, but they believe in y so they are wrong. And evil.” I suspect the same faculty allows for responsibility, that a person can hold themselves responsible in the way they hold others responsible. Something else lefties never accept.

But Twitter becoming a platform for hatred? Under the curatorship of the left Twitter has dripped with hatred. The viciousness of some of the posts from lefty luminaries and progressive plebs has been staggering. The rancour and bile heaped upon Trump, his wife, and his family was off the charts.

Twitter was never a receptacle of truth but of doctrinal orthodoxy – you can tell by the way facts were censored for the sake of preventing divergent notions. Lefties are now faced with the possibility of a world where truths they don’t want are posted unfettered. And they may be held responsible for the stupid shit they say and have said.

The end of Democracy, doncha know?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
April 27, 2022 8:09 am

Japanese silk PJ’s are Hillary’s daywear… flattering way to hide *cough* body armour *cough*.
only other option is a muumuu, so count ourselves lucky.

rosie
rosie
April 27, 2022 8:09 am

I checked twitter again, it’s funny how people like Adam Baldwin suddenly appear in your timeline again.

Elon on the suppression of the New York Post infamous laptop story

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 27, 2022 8:11 am

A Muskageddon addendum.

  1. WTF is going on with power in Qld? https://www.ergon.com.au/network/outages/outage-finder/outage-finder-map/ It looks like half the state is out. There’s 3 houses…

  2. Myer Christmas window tradition cancelled over protest threatBy Cassandra MorganNovember 14, 2024 — 8.03pm Myer’s annual Christmas window unveiling has…

  3. I’ve just got home from the hospital. Earlier I had read in the Oz about today’s utterly disgraceful, despicable, putrid…

  4. Just wait until they lie to you (by omission) about the impact of their policies on electricity prices during the…

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