Not to knock the freight companies but they probably use the Armed Forces logistic model, and employ ex army people…
Federal Election Night 2022
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True, but do all these young talents hate their country and the sport, and have the same political leanings as…
No doubt secure in the knowledge that they won’t be on the front line.Also secure that they will have nice…
Kitchener and his New Armies rolled over any restraint.
The plan was for a modest BEF af under ten divisions. The Territorial Army was to secure the homeland. The…
Watching Plibbers sedated by horse tranquilisers is worse than watching Biden – dummy-spitting KRuddy would make Biden look like the better alternative leader – maybe he should have what she’s having?
Albo as PM was easy to predict in reality and Morrison deserves what he got. From here we’re going to get exactly what we’ve just voted for.
We are off on a government & media driven crusade to bring inclusiveness and diversity to the land all while restoring equilibrium to the planet. Good news is PM Albanese has promised real wage growth.
Welcome to the Peoples Republic of Australia 2022 and good luck.
I’m not sure if you’re saying ‘good’ because you like to see your political opponents suffer, or ‘good’ because you like the policies. It matters not which, but pulls back the curtain on you a little more.
As Oh Come On says – Albo/Wong definitely have the biden vibes.. though Wong is the Obama and Albo the *(clueless) Biden.
I think Plibbers is more of a Nancy Pelosi.
Let the routing of the wets begin. There’s a silver lining.
So when do we know outcomes for the senate?
So people in Warringah want trans men to play in women’s sport and use their toilets?
oh… and I think our future is more aligned with NZ than the US.
Abo rights front and centre, racial discrimination and powers allocated to the indigenes. Reliable power shut down, economy in full reverse while everything is locked up for the green feels.
.. and the majority of the population will just lay back and think of gaia.
Warringah sounds much more Mosman than Forestville these days
We won’t get any of those things. The Left is intolerant not inclusive. Their idea of diversity is to ban anyone who thinks differently from themselves. The planet will ignore them and do its own thing. And wages will go backwards except in raw numeral terms. In Venezuela the workers get paid more and more bolivars each year, but weirdly their wages are worth less and less. It will be the same here.
As for the word “crusade” I think “jihad” would be more apt.
Someone managed to sideline Plibbers throughout the Election campaign, as highlighted by even the MSM.
Is it no coincidence that the seemingly oft sedated Plibbers’ husband is an ex drug dealer?
I assume Pain in back but at least Falinsky is gone. That is good news.
Who’s going to lead the Libs?
Never thought I’d see Rabz write that, FMD.
Starvation will be a good “wake up call” for the City folk.
That’s why I just brought a three point linkage rotary tiller! Vege garden here we come! Plus some livestock! Just need a spark ignition generator to run on wood gas and a home brewing kit and I get to BBQ and drink while watching my neighbours starve due to their own stupidity.
So people in Warringah want trans men to play in women’s sport and use their toilets?
They may not have thought it through…
Who cares?
I was looking at the tally room numbers. Swing in the HoR is all against the Libs, -4.5% Nats and Labor both went backwards a little bit.
Maybe the Libs should decide whether they’re chasing the demographic they should be chasing. (Hint, no you aren’t.)
Hardly slept a wink last night. Just couldn’t. Husband slept the sleep of the innocent – looking forward to Formula 1 Qualifying for Spanish Grand Prix this morning.
It is what I expected in one way – masses turned out to punish Morrison & his mob. But they in fact, in votes, punished both Majors – with the Labor getting less than 30% of the primary vote.
I suspect that the huge vote for the Greens & the Teals came not merely from the female vote (I suspect a lot of them voted for Independents) but from the 18-25 year old voters. Remember, this is the generation who have sat through their entire primary school life with pictures around the classroom showing how we are killing the planet! Then, at high school, they were required to do Science assignments explaining how we are doing just that!
These kids (& now young voting adults) have been effectively brainwashed. I have seen it with my own grandkids. Had an intense “discussion” with 16 year old granddaughter (highly intelligent) on Mothers Day about regenerative farming. Now, I support many principles of the latter – but was stunned at the intensity and knowledge she had acquired from “Geography” at school. Not sure if though if she knows much about the essentials of that subject.
I digress. What really shocked me is that an Independant who lives, as I understand, in the Blue Mountains, won a landslide in North Sydney! I doubt if many, if any, voters know this. At least, I suppose, it got rid of that waste of space – Trent Zimmerman. But the newbie, again from what I understand, is a very deep shade of Green.
Sinc says
Oh No! The wet wing of the Liberal Party have lost their seats. Must be bad for democracy.
Would Angus Taylor be a chance to lead?
That was swing on primary vote btw, not 2pp.
We’ll be fine Monty.
Enjoy the politics but it’s a sideshow, not the main game.
Clive’s 80 million was pocket change.
No-one is worried about his ROI.
You may not have noticed but most of us thought his policies were a little not very good.
Hey rickw- a three point linkage rotary tiller! Exactly what I need! My vegetarian patch, with all this rain, is overgrown with weeds. Only pumpkin, rocket and a small plantation of mint & basil are holding their heads up. Husband too busy with other farm chores, & tilling with hoe in these conditions beyond me as garden is about 10m x 2m.
Battery or electric, Rick?
I notice that Avi and Rushkan are covering Davos and not the Australian election.
Seems they have a view on where the decisions are actually made.
Battery or electric, Rick?
Goes on my JD 4110, which would run on canola in a pinch!
Maybe the Libs should decide whether they’re chasing the demographic they should be chasing. (Hint, no you aren’t.)
Vicki has a good point on the young voters. Maybe there just isn’t enough of the conservative demographic out there anymore.
Libs needed to attract the Labor voter that’s mostly disinterested but likes to blame someone for something. ScoMo gave them plenty of reasons to kick his arse.
Labor premiers think it’s a stamp of approval for them but it also could be seen as a people punishing the Libs for allowing the covid cruelties. The coming state elections will prove it right or wrong.
The fake Moderates got beat, the real Moderates didn’t lose any skin and Andrew Constance won Gilmore from Labor.
Liberals put up a Right Winger in Menzies and lost the Seat for the first time ever.
Peter Dutton is a Moderate, that’s why Labor is terrified by the prospect of him leading the Liberal Party.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SincDavidson/status/1527967645341216769
Pwong looks radiant of late – prolly as she knew they were up against a marshmallow as their opponent.
Time now for blancmange policies?
Holmes ‘a Court identified the Liberals fake Moderates and took them out.
That wasn’t a fluke, yet the Liberal Party was unable or unwilling to see that Zimmerman, Dave Sharma, Tim Wilson, Josh, Katie Allen are all flakes with a massive sense of entitlement.
Farmer Gez – my thought exactly.
As I lay awake all bloody night I went through the ex Lib front bench in my head. None of the ladies up to it. Porter gone, Joshua gone, Birmingham performed well in campaign – but no, the rest not up to it,
Angus Taylor came from KPMG & has broad big business background. More importantly, comes from grazing family (Monaro region?) & should ( though this is NEVER a guarantee) understand the rural sector which is expected to do some pretty heavy lifting in the coming years.
Just on the latter. It really pissed me off that commentators noted Morrisons’s lack of understanding of the disasters of the fires and floods – but, to a man, failed to note his failure during the millennial Drought. The latter, in my opinion, was the most damaging to the collective psyche in the regions. It was devastating. Even on our small holding I will never forget when, with bare paddocks, we were told by local Ag store, that they couldn’t get any more stock feed. The city folk were not aware of the widespread suicides of menfolk on the land during those two awful years. And Morrison? Not a clue. All he could come up with was some financial support for families which required a 40 plus page questionnaire. No widespread visits to regions as even the urban John Howard managed.
Ed
Menzies lost. Can’t find that fact other than it’s neck and neck with only a handful of votes in play.
So what should be a fringe issue (trans) is the same as a party abandoning it’s core principles?
He’s in a position of strength now, eh? Who would’ve thought being OUT of power gives you strength!
If they can’t make and argue the case for basic liberty and the right for people to chose what’s best for them. If they can’t make and argue the case for solid “base load” power generation thus giving this country back the only competitive advantage in manufacturing it had, when a simple bloke like me has never lost in debate on these subjects with all manor of people, then FUCK THEM!
They deserve bankruptcy for they are all morally bankrupt, incestuous, self serving dogs!
Would say more but have to get going. An honourable profession awaits.
Is that why Micallef desperately tries to paste him as ‘V for Vendetta’/Hannibal Lechter et al?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QI_r15YRoo
Labor went backwards from a low base in Queensland, huge loss in Griffith where the Greens doubled their vote since 2013, mostly at Labor’s expense.
Now hold only 5 of the 29 Seats.
Sorry-forgot to mention Dutton. He da man, I think. Got to have some pot-stirrer who will hit them with some muscle.
Geez – with China prowling the oceans around us – you’d think the punters would stick with a Party that is prepared to defend the country. But no….. we have a “climate emergency”…..
Use your brains here.
If Peter Dutton was leading the Liberal Party to Electoral Disaster, do you really think that the Labor Party would have any problems with him doing just that?
Still in the bunker, having Labor call the shots, hence the Globalist bulldust.
Injun Lib candidate (cannon fodder) in my staunchest of Labor electorates, but at least one sees the aspirational grass roots of the Party and not just Labor vote herd immigrants, that they assume will ALL vote Socialist.
low-risk my arse … has the dollar gone off a cliff yet?
Of course not, even Labor aren’t dumb enough to ‘interrupt their enemy whilst they’re making a mistake’ (c/- Napolean?).
Yep Vicki,
ScoMo thought his healing presence was enough to placate the congregation rather than a decent plan. He let the states run drought as he did with covid.
Enough of the Happy Clapper!
Taylor has that calm authoritative manner much like John Anderson, plus the rugged good looks which still is a seller with the lady voter. I know it is sexist but every pollster knows it’s a fact.
University education and no real life experience?
Reminiscent of D’Souza mowing down some woke Oxford Uni student wankers in a forum.
I reckon that has a lot to do with it too, vicki
the kiddies swung green, and their ever so clever and sober-minded parents and nannas went as far green as they could stomach.
What’s that colour?
… oh yeah, moldy
Menzies himself was a Moderate and he still had a few close calls.
Scotty came across as a flake.
Yeah, oldsters who were always going to vote Liberal anyway were mighty impressed with Katherine Deves, but she was a net loss overall.
Vickisays:
May 22, 2022 at 7:04 am
Hardly slept a wink last night. Just couldn’t. Husband slept the sleep of the innocent – looking forward to Formula 1 Qualifying for Spanish Grand Prix this morning.
It is what I expected in one way – masses turned out to punish Morrison & his mob. But they in fact, in votes, punished both Majors – with the Labor getting less than 30% of the primary vote.
I suspect that the huge vote for the Greens & the Teals came not merely from the female vote (I suspect a lot of them voted for Independents) but from the 18-25 year old voters. Remember, this is the generation who have sat through their entire primary school life with pictures around the classroom showing how we are killing the planet! Then, at high school, they were required to do Science assignments explaining how we are doing just that!
These kids (& now young voting adults) have been effectively brainwashed. I have seen it with my own grandkids.
Vicki,
Will just survey the wreckage quickly – incredible that Labor gets in on 30%, and same as you, having digested last night, will get long black and watch recorded F1 P3 and Formula 1 Qualifying for Spanish Grand Prix
My kids voted Teal – Steggall – they and all their friends think she is great and along with all Grandkids think Climate Change – it has been pounded in throughout both generations education
As my Wife just said, they will learn what Misery is when Labor brings in Death Duties after they have (as they always do) further screwed further the Australian Economy and shut down Coal
To Quote Michael Smith News “Rue the Day”
Plus
There is a God
Best news of the Day Kristina Keneally lost Fowler
University education and no real life experience?
No, just a massive sense of entitlement, but their real problem was that they weren’t politically Moderate.
Josh has had a dream run with the Media during his 12 years in Parliament and on John Howard’s staff before that, but the reality is that he’s a prickly little guy with a thin skin.
Graham Richardson has lavishly praised Josh in print as a future Leader of the Liberal Party, he wouldn’t do that if he thought Josh would really be any good in the job.
Dutton seems to be it according to all sources.
His job is opposition and quickly rubbing off the gloss that the media will paste on Albo.
He’s the man for the job in that sense but big doubts on his appeal as a PM.
Should have been Dutton last time.
Ed Casesays:
May 21, 2022 at 10:57 pm
When you stand up a Candidate like Katherine [Netball is an Issue] Deves in a seat you held for 70 years, Voters elsewhere are entitled to conclude you’re not very serious and probably a grifter.
Dickless
Are you suggesting that “Scotty’s” Stradivarius was out of tune? Or maybe just a banjo?
Menzies himself didn’t have appeal as PM, neither did Fraser and Howard.
All Dutton has to do is keep it simple and not make promises he hasn’t thought through, like Tony Abbott did, which brought the 2013 Liberals undone in less than 2 years.
They had been scrambling ever since and now it’s over.
No. Not as we know it anyway. Years of soft, government dependent living will do that, combined with indoctrination of youth to any number of foolish causes.
There will always be pockets of genuinely aspirational people – Howard tapped in to those. They are diminishing as government takes an increasingly prominent role in our lives, including holding the purse strings. It’s malignant and manipulative and irresistable.
Old fashioned “conservatism” – the primacy of family, faith, hard work for reward is gone. It will only return when the money runs out. Or hardship comes in other ways which I don’t want to imagine this early on another beautiful morning.
I think you’ll find the former is the root cause.
A simple look at humans real life behavior on YouTube should suffice.
For example, say: “How to build a better toaster“.
Some wanker undergrad will do a little research, paying little heed to say a century of human wisdom/knowledge employed in a relatively simple device, the culmination of subject matter knowledge.
“Hey, I’m one of the leaders of tomorrow” type sh1te, when most innovation comes from industry schleps toiling away at the grindstone.
Sure, Bell Labs contributed to (inadvertently) discovering the ‘Cosmic microwave background’ (CMB) radiation, moved cinema audio decades ahead at its inception, etc., but these were seasoned workers, not wet-behind-the-ears wankers.
The other message is:
Openly Gay candidates are electoral poison.
Preselecting one of these blokes is like saying to the female part of the Electorate [which is where the Election was lost]:
You’re not even worth fucking
Australia Election – COVID Knucklehead Scott Morrison Out, Climate Change Knucklehead Anthony Albanese In
May 21, 2022 – Sundance
After allowing the various state premiers to brutalize the citizens in each of the states with catastrophic COVID restrictions, mandates and compliance regulations, the conservative Prime Minister of Australia, Scott Morrison, has lost his feeble attempt to win reelection.
Australia has replaced Morrison with Labour party candidate Anthony Albanese. The COVID dictator is out, and the Climate-Change dictator is now installed. Good luck Australia.
(Via MSM) […] “We hand over this country as a government in a stronger position than when we inherited it when we came to government (in 2013),” Morrison told a gathering of Liberal supporters in Sydney late Saturday night. He said it had been a “privilege to lead this great party and lead this great nation” but that he, as leader, would “take responsibility for the wins and the losses”.
“As a result I will be handing over the leadership at the next party room meeting, to ensure that the party can be taken forward under new leadership,” he said.
“It’s a night of disappointment … but it’s also a time for coalition members and supporters all across the country to hold their heads high. We have been a strong government. We have been a good government. Australia is stronger as a result of our efforts over these last three terms.” (read more)
(Via Politico) – […] Opposition leader Anthony Albanese will be sworn in as prime minister after his Labor party clenched its first electoral win since 2007.
Labor has promised more financial assistance and a robust social safety net as Australia grapples with the highest inflation since 2001 and soaring housing prices.
The party also plans to increase minimal wages, and on the foreign policy front, it proposed to establish a Pacific defense school to train neighboring armies in response to China’s potential military presence on the Solomon Islands on Australia’s doorstep.
It also wants to tackle climate change with a more ambitious 43 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. (read more)
The biggest winners…
Eggsly!
😀
18-25 year olds have always voted green or socialist, it’s the working classes abandoning both major parties this time that gave us yesterday’s result. Neither Labor nor Liberals have anything to offer aspirational voters and young families.
Another demographic that will pay dearly for the green swerve by Liberals and subsequent electoral rout are retirees living off their super which is about to dissipate in the “Great Reset”.
Ed Casesays:
May 22, 2022 at 7:45 am
Menzies himself was a Moderate and he still had a few close calls.
Scotty came across as a flake.
Yeah, oldsters who were always going to vote Liberal anyway were mighty impressed with Katherine Deves, but she was a net loss overall.
Ed,
I put Katherine Deves at 4 and told her in email saying that, that “She was the Best of a Bad Bunch”
He’s the man for the job in that sense but big doubts on his appeal as a PM.
Have the media anything else to offer apart from the well-worn “woman problem”?
Every time you post Vicki, I am in absolute agreement with you. Couldn’t get off to sleep easily last night either. Re regenerative farming, get your granddaughter to read the several excellent articles about Sri Lanka on the WattsUpWithThat website (can’t link, on iPad).
The more I think about it, the happier I am with this result, because of the deadwood clearance. Will wake some lazy people up. The cat fights will be illuminating. Politics as an industry will thrive because it can vote itself more money, forever.
I don’t know how much acreage you want to turn into veg but No Dig ( Charles Dowding) has worked like a charm in our regular back yard, only need veg for two here though. I suspect a tiller is better for larger space, but I began with cardboard packing boxes smothering weeds.
m0ntysays:
May 21, 2022 at 11:31 pm
The UAP is a complete stinker.
Simon Holmes a Court tipped in $12M and will get infinitely more ROI than Clive will for his $80M or whatever.
Indeed. With Ruinable power the way of the next few years, he will get billions in subsidies for “cheap” electricity. He should be able to afford a few more rich spoiled wymminses to put on the Teal. (Or is that azure?)
Farmer Gez- thanks for the lighter note – we need it at the moment.
Yep, us ladies (even us older ones!) like the looks of Angus AND Matt Canavan – have told husband I reckon Matty is the sexiest bloke in Aussie politics!
Ed
You’re harking back to another era when people actually disregarded looks or a big smile and voted on substance.
Having grown kids you unfortunately get an insight into the twenty something new world and it’s disturbingly superficial.
Scotty saved a fair few seats for the Liberal Party in that last week, he won the Campaign, but the fake Moderates did him in.
Also a mistake to take Josh on the Campaign, he’s electoral poison.
Labor won maybe 74 seats, but they’ve got huge problems finding new voters, massive Chinese Immigration is their only hope.
Albanese hasn’t got looks or a big smile, but he still came out on top.
How do you explain that?
I should modify that. It is “gone” in the sense that major parties will support it, not that there isn’t a great wodge of the community that values these things.
The newly minted “Voices” won’t be giving these people a voice. They will have to do it for themselves.
I seem to recall Angus Taylor has a bit of a landed gentry background with scandal attached, so some dirt digging might upend him, if Labor needs to hobble him. I suspect Dutton is pretty scandal free but HATED by all the lefties I know because of his strict father figure image. Caravan is simply darling! ??
Thanks hzhousewife – re cardboard smothering weeds- a year or so ago I did smother the weeds with tons of mouldy hay I had in the barn which got wet from leaky roof . Did the trick for a while – but also really improved the soil & up came the weeds again.
The joys of agriculture. Although I do approve a lot of regenerative ag practices, some local rabid practitioners sing the praise of “sequence farming” which effectively means letting weeds proliferate. Sorry, no can do.
“the results of the federal election were overwhelmingly that 2022 was, finally, the climate election.”
What rot. Australia could disappear from the face of the earth, and it would make not a scrap of difference to the climate.
Princess Allegra promised that, if elected, she’d change the climate here in Wentworth for the “better”.
Princess Allegra’s false advertising and empty promises are already coming home to roost. It’s a glum, gloomy and very rainy day here in Wentworth.
Methinks a harbinger of the next three years.
Have the media anything else to offer apart from the well-worn “woman problem”?
They haven’t tried that on Peter Dutton, for the same reason they never tried it on John Howard:
It just won’t stick.
Tony Abbott and Scotty, yeah they were vulnerable to the Woman Problem
barb, because it’s true.
The LNP will not return to Govt unless and until they find a spine. Or, we are hit with a major recession. And don’t think the that the Libs can’t get even greener. I expect to see more on that very soon.
Also, a heads up. If you don’t want this blog to fall into ruin over the coming 3 years then ignore mOron. The turd has re-surfaced like a floater in the dunny and will spend that time goading folks into his idiot bubbles. Ruining thread after thread. RGR redux.
The only good news of a dreadful night is the Fowler result.
Dutton unfortunately was born with negative charisma. Nothing he can do about it. He can be an effective Opposition Leader but won’t win elections. The electorate has gotten more and more superficial with time.
It was notable that Albo was worked on and coached extensively to get rid of uncharismatic stuff like the sneering and ratty hair to make him softer and less scary.
KK’s loss in Fowler is proof that the working class is jack of Labor’s delusions of grandeur. Even Whitlam was the wrong fit for Werriwa, which used to encompass the same geographical area but there were enough of old rusted-ons to keep re-electing him.
“Albanese hasn’t got looks or a big smile, but he still came out on top.
How do you explain that?” Easy. Morrison had the job of herding cats, and made a mess of it.
Hzhousewife- yes, Angus was attacked in the last parliament over his family’s problem with an accusation re his family’s use of pastoral land. As I recall, it was unfounded.
Easy. Australians were so sick of SloMo they made Elbow PM.
Said last week could live with Elbow win if KK got roasted in Fowler.
I’m serene.
Dutton unfortunately was born with negative charisma.
Look out, is that going to be the Labor Talking Point for the next 3 years?
You’ve obviously never seen the guy campaigning, so how would you know whether or not he’s got a presence?
Did Scotty suffer a Swing in Cook?
I don’t think so.
Craig Kelly was going to be the Great White Hope of the Right.
Got 8% in Hughes.
“The LNP will not return to Govt unless and until they find a spine. “
I agree but look at the cretinous Victorian and QLD Liberals, particularly the Victorian Liberals. Defeat after defeat after defeat and all the Victorian Liberals do is shift further left. The Victorian Liberals are about to expel the sole conservative remaining in the party. His crime? Being pro-life.
I don’t want a recession but look at the indoctrinated young in this country, particularly in effluent (I use that word deliberately) areas like where I live. None of these privileged young men and women have ever experienced a recession or hardship. I think it’s time, for electricity rations, for power blackouts and so on. Only then will they learn.
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For those wondering what lessons the libs will draw from this defeat.
Senior Liberals say party must address women problem and regain centre after election loss
Liberal frontbencher Simon Birmingham said gender, diversity, and climate change were clearly factors in the party’s defeat
Matt Kean, the NSW treasurer and a leading moderate, said the lesson of Saturday night was “when the Liberal party goes too far to the right we lose in the centre”.
“The Liberal party is at its strongest when we represent the diversity in the community,” Kean said. “Tonight we have had a very strong message from our heartland that we are not representing them.”
Kean said the party must not vacate the space on climate change and must have a credible path to reduce emissions.
“What we can’t do is abandon the space on listening to women,” he said. “We can’t have a situation where women are voting for us in lesser numbers than males. That is hugely damaging to the community and we need to listen to women and have policies that respond to their concerns.”
Former deputy leader Julie Bishop also said the party must address the issue of women in the party. “Grace Tame and Brittany Higgins changed the narrative,” she said. “Women were saying [parliament] was not a safe place to work.
“So many Liberal women told me they did not see their concerns, their interests reflected in the party that was led by Scott Morrison and in Coalition with Barnaby Joyce. They just didn’t see them as having any empathy for the concerns of women.
“We as a party need to regroup and listen to the communities and the message they have sent.”
Outgoing Liberal MP Trent Zimmerman said the Liberal party must ensure it represents “the aspirations of the great urban areas that represent a large portion of the economic activity of our nation” or winning government again will be impossible.
“There is a driving desire in the communities I represent for greater action on climate change, for greater action in areas like ensuring there are genuinely more opportunities for women in our communities,” Zimmerman said.
“If we fail to do that we are not living up to the aspirations of our party set by Robert Menzies.”
“When we look at these results across Sydney and Brisbane and Victoria there are clearly lessons for the Liberal party that we need to learn.”
Liberal frontbencher Simon Birmingham said gender, diversity and climate change were clearly factors in the election result and it is “absolutely” time to start preselecting more women. However, the party had paid the price for preselecting the divisive Katherine Deves in Warringah.
“I think these are issues we will have to clearly address,” he said. “We want to make sure we improve the Liberal vote and are competitive to win back safe seats like Warringah and ensure that we hold seats like North Sydney and Wentworth and we have to have not just candidates who reflect those values, as Dave Sharma and Trent Zimmerman unquestionably do, but have to make sure that the party appreciates those values.”
Former Victorian Liberal deputy state director Tony Barry said the Liberals had lost their base.
“It is a teal bath,” he said. [The party] needs to redefine and go back to its original roots and the aspirational class, the outer suburbs – housing affordability is the political fault line in Australia right now and I think we’ve overlooked that.
“The great thing about housing affordability which I think is impacting enormously is, you can’t create conservatives if they have got nothing to conserve. If you don’t own a house, you can’t conserve. That’s our natural constituents and we need to get back to that.”
Former Liberal frontbencher Christopher Pyne said the voting out of female MPs like Fiona Martin was a “big blow to the Liberal party”.
He suggested a possible introduction of gender quotas as the party moves forward from the election loss. “We are going to have to face the facts about the current political scene. They want women … to change the dynamic, to change the culture,” Pyne said.
So basically accept the “all women are shit and must be babied’ premise as well as shut everything down outside the metro areas which are the only ones that count…
Steady on…
Terri Butler is gone as Labor reaps what Rudd sowed in Griffith, and so is “Josh” Frydenberg, leaving Dutton to take the Libs leadership, the best result possible in the circumstances, as “Josh” would only have taken the Libs further left. With Dutton they might find a redoubt from which to take a stand without dripping wets like Sharma, Wilson and Zimmerman wubverting them from within.
How to design an actually good toaster with lessons from the 1940’s
Technology Connections
Dude seems to be (the real deal) tech nerd living in his mum’s basement, but posts some great analytical technical sh1te getting to the heart of the matter.
subverting!
How did Liberals go in Hughes?
Very well, though pundits here and elsewhere reckoned ditching Kelly
would assure a Labor victory.
Fakes and Flakes brought the Government down, not an absence of rockribbed RightWingers.
Look around
I’m now living in the People’s Republic of Ryan (PRR). My theme song for the next 3 years is TISM’s 5 yards.
So they’re going to move towards the centre from the wet centre-left? Excellent!
It’s a start anyway.
:-;
Anchor What, ScoMo didn’t have a “woman problem”, he had a people problem. He just couldn’t put himself in someone else’s shoes. Lack of empathy.
On cue, Laura Jayes: the Liberals have a woman problem!
Chloe’s curtains finally get used.
Oops, stuffed the emoji. 😉
It was notable that Albo was worked on and coached extensively to get rid of uncharismatic stuff like the sneering and ratty hair to make him softer and less scary.”
Sorry, but you’re wrong, Albanese did a lot of sneering in the election campaign.
People said Howard was uncharismatic, people said Abbott was uncharismatic. I think Dutton will be a competent opposition leader, whether he wins an election remains to be seen. But his charisma or lack of charisma is irrelevant.
Any senate results yet?
Someone in the Liberal Party gets it, at least.
I think that is basically the guts of it. Scummo was a smug looking windsock, smirking his way through the job. He fell into the gig because LNP punters couldn’t stand Turdball and he’s been smirking his way through ever since. Once we got to know him better, it was over. No one likes a smirker.
Two very major mistakes.
Hawaii – the media flayed him alive and the average punter was furiously disgusted with his attitude (real or portrayed by the media) over the whole affair. He turned a great leadership opportunity into an absolute unmitigated disaster that was never forgotten or forgiven
Covid- by enabling the despot state Prem c****, Scummo effectively spurned the base. Certainly enough of the base to deliver a “punish the bastard” vote. Trying to be a windsock, he dug his political grave.
What drugs are you on, Grigs?
Plibbers your supplier?
Even SKY News were saying that Scummo was hated in all Capital cities, less so in Regionals, and blamed him for Dave Sharma’s loss.
I am uncomfortable with the number of Greens in the Senate. If we have to do a “Sri Lanka”, then let’s get it over and done with ASAP. I will be curious to see how overseas investors see us now, re agriculture and energy markets.
“Former Liberal frontbencher Christopher Pyne said the voting out of female MPs like Fiona Martin was a “big blow to the Liberal party”.”
LOL
According to SKY News.
Hzhousewife at 8:14 am, you are right about having to clear out the dead wood from the Libs and it was not going to happen unless they lost and lost badly.
The very low primary vote for both majors is a thunderclap that neither will hear.
Matt Kean, the NSW treasurer and a leading moderate, said the lesson of Saturday night was “when the Liberal party goes too far to the right we lose in the centre”.
Correct.
Leave the Right to Labor, Liberals suck at it anyway.
Liberals are a Left of Centre Party, the clue is in the name.
And Pyne’s prolly blown a few in his time.
This maybe old news to many here, but it’s worth repeating. Jacinta Price will be a Senator and the NT News reports her saying
“Australia, a very affluent nation, has been taken for a ride by the Greens, by the Left, and they will soon find out what that means.
“But we will be there, working tirelessly making sure the job is getting done no matter what, so we can support the marginalised, so that our businesses are still going, even when we’re faced with such high rates of crime.
“I’m going to go bloody hard, I can tell you that now, because my ancestors would be bloody upset if I didn’t.”
She should be the Coalition leader in the Senate. And I am loking forward to her first clash with Lydia Thorpe.
Somebody predicted that Andrew Bolt would give Albo a tongue bath on his show on Monday. He couldn’t wait until tomorrow night, there he is now on Sky doing just that. Fair weather “conservative”.
So Morrison was supposed to be the Fire Chief?
It’s a state responsibility.
He copped it from the media because that’s what they do – attack every Liberal leader who is not a faux conservative like Turnbull.
Look on the bright side.
The Liberal left just got destroyed.
Matt kean is still there
OK, off to cook a full English breakfast and have champagne while watching Outsiders. Hubby just remarked that Blot seemed very glum!
Morrison criticised for being too slow to supply untested and probably dangerous vaccines that didn’t really work.
“Smartest man in the room” (with demonstratively the lowest IQ).
We need to get her in the lower house so she can run for PM.
Covid- by enabling the despot state Prem c****, Scummo effectively spurned the base. Certainly enough of the base to deliver a “punish the bastard” vote. Trying to be a windsock, he dug his political grave.
Rubbish.
Dud local Members and dud Candidates is what lost it.
Holmes ‘a Court identified the duds and took them all out.
He did the Liberal Party a huge favor, the question is whether or not they accept that or go on a desperate search for the next Trent Zimmerman.
Fitzgibbo: Morrison didn’t bring the Nationals along with him on Net Zero!
Er, the Nats retained all their seats.
This maybe old news to many here, but it’s worth repeating. Jacinta Price will be a Senator and the NT News reports her saying
Outstanding; that news plus no body’s girl getting reamed casts some light over the whole bloody mess. Now if fatso can spend his money on acquiring a media outlet then more good. Pity about Craig Kelly. But when fatso buys his media he can put Kelly in as manager.
@Matrix Transform
“…watching this shit burn is going to be pretty funny at times”.
Might be the only way a lot of people will stay warm in winter until the next “selection” takes place.
We need to get her in the lower house so she can run for PM.
Jacinta Price?
You wouldn’t be a Labor Party troll, by any chance?
Fixed.
Scummo served up his head and that of his Govt on a platter. So the media (who Scottie from marketing should know very well) took it and punters soaked it up.
He was “supposed” to be here in the thick of it , demonstrating empathy and leadership. Doing whatever a PM can. Not smirking on a beach under palm trees drinking mai-tais. The fkg moron gifted Labor with their most effective sound bites- “not my job mate”
What a lovely morning.
We have a Westminster system which tends to create a polarised Parliament with two major parties, but that system has broken down. I wonder if there will be a push by the Teals and Greens for a Constitutional change for proportional representation like in NZ and Europe. Funnily enough that would benefit the Clives of the world because they could actually elect candidates, he might even back it too. The referendum on the Voice might be a stalking horse for a more fundamental change.
Politics 101: Perceptions matter just as much, if not more than, reality.
Elbow’s going to find that out very soon too.
It would seem that the Liberal Party, having been led out to a narrowly defined “base” has lost the electorate. Hard to see a comeback. Labor has done surprisingly well But they’ll now be subject to deals with Greens (impossible to deal with) or the other independents.
On the face of it Australia may have broken its two party system.
Er, the Nats retained all their seats.
They’re good at PorkBarreling, which is why they’ve hung on.
Plibersek will be making sure the Pork stops from today.
Nats retained all seats, but Kieran Gilbert wanted Barnaby to resign.
**chuckles
Labor and the Greens in charge equate to the Taliban without weaponry running the place.
without dripping wets like Sharma, Wilson and Zimmerman wubverting them from within.
Im sure the ABC already has dressing rooms with the little gold stars already set aside for them to prognosticate how awful the Libs are now.
When the media and the left side of politics have completely wrecked our formerly reliable and affordable energy, will they be punished?
No, all of us will be punished.
Makka, exactly, ScoMo is a smirker in the Peter Costello mould who at least didn’t get the chance to smirk at us as a PM.
A scary thought, monty. I hope not. We already have the Senate for proportional anyway (at least, within each state). NZ haz just the one house.
Rowan Dean is nailing it on Outsiders.
Rowan Dean just opened The Outsiders with remarks that abound on this thread.
There’s going to be a lot of pain felt in middle Australia outside the inner suburban teal belt in the next three years.
The Liberals will need to channel Menzies and take up the cause of the quiet Australians, not the noisy ones,if they’re to redeem themselves.
Rowan also thinks that Dutton can take the Libs to a win in 2025.
There are many many reasons why the LNP lost. Many.
Not one demographic. Many.
Be clear Scumo lost. ALP did not win (ref primary vote).
Scumo managed to lose the vote of the enjabbed, the unjabbed, the 30 somethings who fled to the greens, the entitled white women, green women, purple wonen etc., youf, aged, in betweens, males, females, rich, poor, tall, short, fat, thin …
In summary he lost votes from all corners.
So the LNP solution will be the same thing once more all over again. They will say “we didn’t move far enough to the left”.
mUnty believes that in 2022 after thousands of years, humans are all of a sudden fundamentally renewed with better plans, hopes and aspirations.
its an enlightenment
what a fucking maroon
It is hard to see how the Libs will become the party of the battlers in the outer suburbs when the Young Libs are full of rich inner city private school boys whose Mums’ friends all just voted Teal. They are just not set up to promote bogans and tradies to leadership positions.
Their choice of leaders are Angus Taylor, an old fashioned squattocrat in the Malcolm Fraser mould, or a cop called Mr Potato Head who is the ugliest man in Australia… on the inside.
The Libs need to visit the hall of mirrors and figure out who they are. If they go further to the right, the Teals occupy their blue ribbon seats for a generation. They probably need to start looking more like the Teals than the front row at a Hillsong convention.
@ hzhousewife:
“I will be curious to see how overseas investors see us now, re agriculture and energy markets.”
I expect our “rice-propelled cousins” to NEVER let a crisis (or an opportunity) go to waste..
“Housing crisis”?
Remind me again about “Crown land” and who is in charge of it. “Spillage”?
Supply-chain issues? Domestic, international and /or “managed”. Follow the money!
Then again, it appears that “freehold” really means just a long lease at the whim of the Junta of the day. Force majeur “rools”.
Daily Mail. Julie who?
Will the UN let us have another election?
will they be punished?
No, all of us will be punished.
Australias new motto…
I dont keep anybody around me who doesnt deserve what they get….. (20 seconds in)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ93TOAq858
Rowan also thinks that Dutton can take the Libs to a win in 2025.
What’s the point? Why vote for soft socialism when you can get the real thing?
It pains me to say it, but monty’s right. It’s like I said yesterday, most of the Lib candidates are affluent inner-city types. In the outer suburbs you have houso estates (safe labor) and newer housing estates (“aspirational” voters, ripe for picking up by Libs). Instead of focusing on picking up the aspirationals, they chase the affluent inner city Greens/Teals. And they do it because that’s who they are themselves.
The Liberal Party of Australia being close to losing for the first time the blue ribbon seat named after Robert Menzies… if that doesn’t signify an existential crisis in the Party then nothing will.
or a cop called Mr Potato Head who is the ugliest man in Australia… on the inside.
You’re the specialist on the inside; Mr Head up his arse.
mUnty believes that in 2022 after thousands of years, humans are all of a sudden fundamentally renewed with better plans, hopes and aspirations.
Munty believes in endless revolution, sadly he hasn’t realised how that typically works out for short, fat and unskilled ranga’s.
Let’s have proportional representation by ethnicity then.
or a cop called Mr Potato Head who is the ugliest man in Australia… on the inside.
Far better to vote for Mr Rub’n’tug, the brothel creeper to represent lady voters eh monty?
Manuel’s son in charge, what could go wrong.
Farty owls here we come.
They’re working on that.
Crazy times.
what was that film where the main character has to achieve some impossible goal in 20 minutes or her boyfriend dies?
you know the one where she trips over the dog and fails
then theres another version but this time, she jumps over the dog
eventually she gets it right.
oh that’s it, Run mUnty Run
Biden and the Bernie bros have been in power less than 18 months and the US is now at this point:
The U.S. Is Entering a Severe Energy Crisis (20 May, via Climate Depot)
The irony is this is in NRO, which is RINO central. So how did your detestation of Trump go for you NR kiddies?
We are maybe three years behind the US, and will catch up when Liddell, Eraring and Loy Yang are closed.
Ironic – there will be a referendum on an Aboriginal “voice” to Parliament, yet Ken Wyatt has just been voted out?
Er…monty, Labor’s primary vote is c. 32%; not exactly a glowing endorsement from the electorate.
And Elbow & Co. are about to face their own existential crisis in trying to form and run a government with the support of a loons who imagine that a modern & prosperous nation can be powered by unicorn farts.
Groogs the low IQ Dickie Knee act is becoming tiresome, even by your standards.
Fifteen crossbenchers – WTF?
If a week is a long time in politics three years of an Albo government will be a very long time. If the cash rate goes to 3% you won’t be able to sleep at night with the howling.
If we have to do a “Sri Lanka”, then let’s get it over and done with ASAP.
My guess is they will really try and choke off Sri Lankan refugees. To red pilled on green stupidity.
Whoo-hoo !!
traffic jam
So long Keneally*, you evil arrogant loathsome slag.
Guess what – the electorate hates your guts, although I appreciate someone as stupid as you are might not realise it.
*Until labore parachutes her into the senate (again).
A hot summer of rolling brown outs should fix the Teal issue.
And Elbow & Co. are about to face their own existential crisis in trying to form and run a government with the support of a loons who imagine that a modern & prosperous nation can be powered by unicorn farts.
This is going to be hilarious to watch!
Well better not let in all those Ukrainian refugees then Julie, or they’ll get even angrier when fed up men walk out the door and hook up with women who aren’t vapid fools. And no you can’t have a lot of cats to ease your loneliness, the Teals think they’re bad for the planet.
A hot summer of rolling brown outs should fix the Teal issue.
That’s Racist!!
(Just practicing!)
As OCO said, definite Biden vibes coming from Labor.
Ed Case says:
May 22, 2022 at 8:20 am
Albanese hasn’t got looks or a big smile, but he still came out on top.
How do you explain that?
15 kg weight loss and a gleaming new set of choppers.
Are you trying to prove my point Ed?
and ye shall know them by their plumage
please, please, please make it a minority govt
I want to see their true colours
The best way to get people to think about electricity is to turn off their air conditioning in February.
Folks, just letting you know that the ALP voter Thai massage booking site down!!
I hope none of you were or are surprised, I’m not, the result is about what I expected. I am going to learn mandarin so I will be able to speak to our masters in the near future.
I have also bought a pallet of pop corn so I can watch their ABC trying to make the case that it’s good for Australia to become a Chinese protectorate.
The best way to get people to think about electricity is to turn off their air conditioning in February
lived in Perth for 34 years, never had aircon and not planning on it.
The Poll Bludger has Labor just crossing the 76 seat line thanks to WA.
Daily Mail
Chalk and cheese. Costello knew he was good, while ScoMo only thinks he is.
Or, as a fellow Instructor once observed: “perception is reality” (for all intents and purposes) – look at the caning Scumoron deservedly received.
Will the gliberals now dump their idiotic commitment to year net zero?
That would mean having to differentiate themselves from the drooling cretins who’ve just vanquished them, so presumably not.
Translation: We expect much grovelling from Mr. Wrong, or else.
This will be the best lesson for my children, addicted to air conditioning as they are.
At least when we refer to Albo as that “bastard PM”, it will no longer be a figure of speech.
First publicly confessed illegitimate PM?
Has President Xi called to congratulate Albo.
Getting a coffee and all people can talk about is the football.
Makes me feel happy.
We are maybe three years behind the US, and will catch up when Liddell, Eraring and Loy Yang are closed.
I’d say closer to 6 months. Liddell and Eraring will go before the end of the year. I’d enjoy the shit except we’re all going to be in the dark, not just the filth and liars. I bet the rich brat and cannon-fucks are busy putting in gas generators at their mansions; if they’re not already there.
Senator Jacinta Price is going to be good value on that issue.
“Big_Nambassays:
May 22, 2022 at 9:48 am
The best way to get people to think about electricity is to turn off their air conditioning in February
lived in Perth for 34 years, never had aircon and not planning on it.”
We moved to Perth in the late 1970s from Sydney. We never had aircon, it was prohibitively expensive, and we only had one fan in the house. I don’t recall anyone having aircon and we didn’t have it at school.
However now many have aircon and schools have aircon. The young today are so used to aircon and other luxuries so, I’m looking forward to the inevitable rationing and power blackouts, I suspect that the only way to make young people think is through some deprivation.
Geriatric Joe’s new press secretary is even more incoherent than he is.
But she’s an angry black lezzo, so any criticism of her utter incompetence is of course, sexist homophobic and racist.
Labor winning with 32% primary tells you that primary means bugger all in our system. They ran dead in Lib seats to elect the teals anyway. In actual Labor seats they did okay.
I’m waiting to see Jacinta Price and Lidia Thorpe go face to face..
Has President Xi called Albo to congratulate him yet ?
Look out for %age of migrants from Mainland China to increase in next three years and not so much from Hong Kong as that might upset Xi.
I hope the Happy Ending will be complimentary today.
What it means is that Labor governs – whether in their own right or as a minority – only with the consent of green extremists who want to wreck the only productive industries we have left.
Monty, less than a third primary means Labor can never be more than a minority government.
And if you want to redistribute wealth, you first have to create it. Good luck with that.
Refer: Overeducated University idiots.
Who would’ve cheered on the Green New Deal* the most?
People who (think they) have no skin in the game.
Retards on stilts, those most dangerous people on the planet.
*Authored by a Silicon Valley Injun.
A fact which your true Socialist appears curiously incapable of understanding.
Can we have a go at making a list of predictions based on Labor policies such as
More policies for the “First Nations” such as treaty, the Voice, some sort of involvement in Foreign Affairs or DFAT to show off our 60,000 year culture etc.
More money thrown at NDIS as it would be heartless to question any rorting.
Increasing power prices as coal demonised and we buy solar panels and windmills from China that are made with coal power.
Kowtowing to China.
Push towards electric vehicles and those using petrol punished.
Climate Change, Climate Change, Climate Change.
One area I will be interested to watch is the trans activist rights as far more women in parliament and how they balance this issue.
Go Peter Dutton.
Minor question. How many votes did Bosi get ? Was Cossack running for something?
You are still thinking in Westminster bipolar terms. That model is old hat. We have moved to permanent coalition governments. Many pundits will lose their minds over this, but it is not such a bad system. You can still have mandates, they are just more complicated.
Because they never create any wealth themselves they can only imagine stealing it.
With the makeup of the Parliament and the mood of the electorate the way it is, I can easily foresee a change to four year fixed terms same as Victoriastan.
This would cement left tyranny for decades to come.
Air con isn’t really optional in any apartment built after the 1970s. I more or less got away with it across two Melbourne summers shielded from most sun by a neighbouring building 200m from Port Phillip bay.
So, Dutton or one of the spineless wonders, a la Birmingham?
If the former, the Voice referendum will be both the acid test and the first opportunity to clearly state a culture wars position and go to war for it — the forced rediscovery of principle, if you will.
If the latter, God help us
If LNP was based, they’d push for first past the post now for the HoR and implement it if they won government. They would have easily won a majority this election.
Hard to see any Federal government burning political capital on fixed 4 year terms after Keneally in NSW.
Didn’t China, the ALP and the media all screech in outrage when Karen Andrews said China favoured a Labor win? Bet that goes into the forgettery.