1,395 thoughts on “Open Thread – Weekend 21 May 2021”

  1. Elon goes off the lefty reservation and the predictable happens…

    Elongate | Power Line (20 May)

    A woman has made a hearsay allegation against Elon Musk, claiming that on a company airplane in 2016, he exposed himself to and propositioned a flight attendant.

    To which Elon replies as any guy should…

    Musk challenges private jet sex accuser to describe intimate body parts after sexual misconduct allegations (21 May)

    Elon Musk called the woman who accused him of sexual misconduct a “far-left actor” who has “a major political axe to grind” — and challenged her to verify her claims by describing a part of his anatomy “not known by the public.”

    Maybe the suddenly outraged wymminse could draw us a picture.


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  2. Elbow as he is now is a very handsome man
    No idea how much the make-over cost but if it were me I’d be after my money back ..!
    he wasn’t a centrefold before but now he doesn’t even rate the bottom of the last page advert space … pix of him lately, make him look sickly .. I scrubbed up better than that on chemo .. FFS!


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  3. Elon Musk called the woman who accused him of sexual misconduct a “far-left actor” who has “a major political axe to grind” — and challenged her to verify her claims by describing a part of his anatomy “not known by the public.”

    Shane Bourne moved from ABC “comedy” to “drama” about a medical insurance company. In one episode, he asked a woman accusing a doctor of forcing her into oral sex whether the accused was circumcised or not. Her claim collapsed at that point.


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  4. Buddhist monk You Tuber in Fowler asking KKK to show his audience how to fill in the squares.

    I thought it was a Buddhist principle not to inflict pain and suffering on others?


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  5. No idea how much the make-over cost but if it were me I’d be after my money back ..!

    He didn’t have a makeover – he just finally lost his baby fat.

    FTR, I think he looks better… or did at the start of the campaign – he looks worse when he’s agitated, which was happening a lot with some journalists.
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  6. Prediction:
    Prime minister Scott Morrison
    Deputy prime minister Anthony Albanese

    I hope I’m wrong but this is what the uniparties do around the world.


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  7. (Narcissistic repost from OOT stasis)

    To be fair, the idiocy is not confined to the ABC. There have been some really stupid assumptions made by the major party campaign strategists that illustrate how out-of-touch these people are. Here are a few I can think of:

    – that Julia Gillard can move the needle for Labor. They think she has juice. She doesn’t

    – that John Howard can move the needle away from the teals and back to the Libs in their blue ribbon seats. They think he has juice within these electorates. He doesn’t

    -a special sandgroper edition: that welding yourself to Mark McGowan is going to win you votes because he’s so beloved by Western Australians. He isn’t. His temporary Covid-era sheen has well and truly worn off and he’s just another politician now – this has been the case for at least 6 months and probably longer. Yet Morro went out of his way to kiss McFuckface’s arse as frequently as possible while campaigning here, and Albo was seldom seen without McGowan by his side

    Is it any wonder that there is such widespread disaffection with the major parties? They are tired, stupid and unimaginative. They have nothing compelling to offer. They think lazy assumptions and looking to the past cuts through with voters. They are wrong. Ultimately, they don’t understand the electorate.


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  8. Petros, we didn’t even do that during WW2 when the country was in an existential crisis. It won’t happen now. The majors will go to another election if neither can form a stable government.


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  9. Elon Musk called the woman who accused him of sexual misconduct a “far-left actor” who has “a major political axe to grind” — and challenged her to verify her claims by describing a part of his anatomy “not known by the public.”

    If he bought her two horses, she would have shut up.


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  10. Rohanc
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    A few predictions.
    – both parties will get a primary vote in the mid 30’s (this last occurred in 1906)
    – UAP will do very well in Outer Melbourne and Sydney.
    – One Nation will kill it in Queensland.
    – the preferences will spray all over the place.

    I think this is about right but I have no idea how it translates electorally. If only we had someone like Baris to do the work.


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  11. OCO, you’re dead right about the reflected sheen of has-beens and MaoGowan.
    That’s why they’ve only come out in week 6, whereas AnAl has been spruiking his lonely mum and fresh cast wog flash since day 1.


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  12. and challenged her to verify her claims by describing a part of his anatomy “not known by the public.

    Let’s assume she’s lying. If she calls his bluff and puts out a false description, then he’s going to have to make it known to the public to refute her. I don’t want to know about that.


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  13. Someone in the ABC will soon be preparing a shot of something invigorating in order that Anthony Green can keep us all informed for the next 20 hours. Can’t wait.


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  14. AnAl popping west every week, but never donning flouros, is a good sign that he desperately needs urban seats Swan-Hasluck-Cowan-Curtin


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  15. the woman who accused him of sexual misconduct

    There needs to be a statute of limitations on this sort of preposterous fabricated rubbish. Either you report it at the time or just STFU.

    Any collectivist hate figure will inevitably end up being accused of this. So tired and so predictable.


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  16. Fleecedsays:
    May 21, 2022 at 10:17 am
    Am I out of moderation yet? Come on dover, lift ya game!
    moderated

    This is kind of funny but shows how useless computing can really be.


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  17. Reposting because it was moderated (twice) in the old thread:

    Not sure how the Teal “independents” will do in general, but a lot of talking heads on the tele seem to think Tim Wilson is a goner. It’d be worth the laugh to see it happen, I guess.

    Anyway, I find it hard to care who wins, as we don’t have a conservative party, and despite Paul Murray insisting the contrary, ScoMo’ll sign away our sovereignty to WHO. The phuk-knuckle was boasting about it before vehemently denying it.

    Anyway… my prediction is still Coalition with an increased majority. Mostly because I like being contrarian… but here’s hoping parties like LDP and PHON cause havoc in the senate.


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  18. before vehemently denying it

    Yes, obviously responding to some less than glowing feedback from focus groups.

    If Morristeen said the sky was blue, I’d walk outside and check.


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  19. There is no bad outcome in Fowler.

    Nor Goldstein, where Lib’s Tim Wilson is up against a Teal.

    Tom wrote:

    Hiya, Fleeced! Long time no see.

    Thanks, Tom.


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  20. here’s hoping parties like LDP and PHON cause havoc in the senate.

    I voted for David Limbrick (LDP) in the No.1 position for the Senate. As de facto state opposition leader since 2020 after the Stupid Fucking Liberals vacated the field, he’ll make a fine senator for Victoria, building on the excellent work by Senator David Leyonhjelm between 2014 and 2019.


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  21. Big news:

    Catholic bishop bars communion to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi over abortion rights support.

    The archbishop of San Francisco said Friday that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who is Catholic, can no longer receive the sacrament of communion because she has declined to back down from her push for abortion access.

    Archbishop Salvatore J. Cordileone wrote in a public post Friday that his “many requests” have not been accepted to speak with Pelosi, who is from San Francisco, since she vowed to keep Roe v. Wade. The archbishop said he communicated to Pelosi on April 7 that, should she not publicly repudiate her “advocacy for abortion ‘rights” or refrain from referring to her faith in public, he would have no choice but to deny her communion.



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  22. The archbishop referred to the Catholic Church’s Cannon 915, which says that, “Those who have been excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty and others obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion.” The Chatecism of the Catholic Church is against abortion.

    “As you have not publically repudiated your position on abortion, and continue to refer to your Catholic faith in justifying your position and to receive Holy Communion, that time has now come,” the archbishop wrote. “Therefore, in light of my responsibility as the Archbishop of San Francisco to be ‘concerned for all the Christian faithful entrusted to [my] care’ … by means of this communication I am hereby notifying you that you are not to present yourself for Holy Communion and, should you do so, you are not to be admitted to Holy Communion, until such time as you publically repudiate your advocacy for the legitimacy of abortion and confess and receive absolution of this grave sin in the sacrament of Penance.”



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  23. Is anyone detecting a Gough “It’s Time” mood? I am not.

    I’m detecting more of a “I hate them all” mood, but especially amongst disaffected Libs.


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  24. Country VIC:

    The clear blue skies are once more crisscrossed with contrails.

    Such and obvious sign of Freedom and Carbon “Pollution” must stick in the craw of our the oppressing political and bureaucratic classes.


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  25. I have done my duty! HoR: I couldn’t bring myself to put the sitting member below Greenfilth. Second last spot. Senate easy. LDP 1, 2 and 3 below the line followed by 15 minors of the correct persuasion plus 4 Indies. Absolutely NO majors!


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  26. I’m detecting more of a “I hate them all” mood, but especially amongst disaffected Libs.

    Yep, “which arseholes do I vote for besides the uniparty arseholes?”

    You can’t fuck all of the people all of the time.


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  27. Last post as I have to get back to it. Dover, I live in Herbert not far from the boundary of Kennedy. KAP, ONP & Phat Phuc will probably capture a third of the vote between them. KAP has been quite visible in Townsville, of the minors I’d say they’ll be the top of that pile.

    Herbert, Kennedy won’t change hands. Dawson I’d say will stay LNP but the ALP has a quality candidate there with Hamilton from G&S Engineering Mackay.

    May drop in tonight again. During the count.


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  28. HoR: I couldn’t bring myself to put the sitting member below Greenfilth

    Always put Greens last. Always. Sitting member second last, but Greens last.


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  29. I have to say, the LNP’s sloganeering this time around has been particularly rubbish. ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’? You missed the part where you explain why. Stop insulting my intelligence.

    As for ‘there’s a hole in your costings dear Labor’ etc – really? Their platform looks to be about as artlessly costed as the LNP’s. And if you have to go back to the Howard era to spruik your bona fides as the most reliable steward of the nation’s finances, that is pretty piss poor.

    By the way, the teal running in my electorate is clearly giving heartburn whoever replaced Julie Bishop in my electorate. (I know her name but I just don’t care enough to mention it.) Her pamphlets explain all of the ways the coalition’s been nice to illegal immigrants, all of the good work they’ve done about the ‘climate crisis’ and the environment and so forth.

    Thank you for reminding me what a bunch of craven, principle-free weathervanes the Liberals are.


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  30. More from the Archbishop of San Francisco:

    “Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion,” the Catechism of the Catholic Church says. “This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.”

    “A Catholic legislator who supports procured abortion, after knowing the teaching of the Church, commits a manifestly grave sin which is a cause of most serious scandal to others. Therefore, universal Church law provides that such persons ‘are not to be admitted to Holy Communion,’” Cordileone wrote in the letter to Pelosi.

    “After numerous attempts to speak with Speaker Pelosi to help her understand the grave evil she is perpetrating, the scandal she is causing, an the danger to her own soul she is risking, I have determined that she is not to be admitted to Holy Communion.” the Archbishop said.



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  31. here’s hoping parties like LDP and PHON cause havoc in the senate.

    Campbell Newman #1 .
    Sure he’d be a back pocket LNP vote in the Senate,
    but he would put a bit of stick about on the TV.


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  32. These people are MAD…In order to supposedly combat inflation, which has risen to a 30-year-high in New Zealand, Finance Minister Grant Robertson announced on Thursday that the Labour Party-controlled government would be issuing 350NZD in checks to some 2.1 million Kiwis in weekly payments over the next three months.


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  33. Mrs Diogenes was getting annoyed with me for taking so long with the senate paper, but it was worth it to put Amanda Soker dead last! mwahahahahah mwahahahahah mwahhhahahah


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  34. Electricity Bill was good. It made a point.

    ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’ – it rhymes so that must mean something, I guess…?

    I don’t care anymore. Am reconciled to the fact that washed up mediocrities run our country today and will do so for the foreseeable future.


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  35. Im down for a Lab landslide.

    10 seat majority.
    Basing it on 4,000,000 early votes from people lining up to kick scomo in the nads.


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  36. Cat Call for Election 22…

    Predicted result out of 151 seats up for grabs. (76 to win)

    Coalition to win:

    Winston Smith 84
    Knuckle Dragger 80
    Tom 80 LNP, 70 the rest (Liars-Filth). Simon’s leg-openers: ZERO.
    Top Ender 79 (ineligible for prize)
    Lizzie 78
    Eyrie 78
    Calli 77
    Rosie LNP by one; nothing for teals, 1 green 2 independents.
    Roger LNP to win 73 seats (ALP 72) & form government with support of independents
    Fair Shake Scomo as a minority government…after two weeks of recounts. He takes it by 2
    Chris Put me down for 3?????

    Delta A Hung parliament – 74 seats each – with Greens and One nation voting each way. Rebekha Sharkie (Centre Alliance) going with LNP.

    2dogs Hung parliament with about 65 each for the majors
    Armadillo hung Parliament with one teal holding the balance of power

    Labor to win:

    pete m Labor to win by 10 seats
    Rabz Labore at least 78 seats
    Cassie of Sydney two or three seats
    Leon L ALP + Greens + TEALS 90; LNP et al 61
    Sancho Labor – 76; LNP – 73; Greens – 1; Teal – 1; UAP – 0
    MatrixTransform Liars 67; Crossbench 13; LNP 71


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  37. I’m not big on church doctrine but knowing Pelosi and her ilk the inability to receive communion would probably not be too much of an issue. More important would be what happens church wise when it comes time to bury the old witch.


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  38. C.L.:

    Good to see Cat legend Fleeced back for the day.

    Thanks, CL. Turned up on the Cat’s doorstep last night, but dover left me in the cold until this morning. LOL.

    Oh come on:

    I have to say, the LNP’s sloganeering this time around has been particularly rubbish. ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’? You missed the part where you explain why. Stop insulting my intelligence.

    Yep. No three or four word slogans this time. They copped flak for using them in the past, but only because they worked. That’s what irritated media the most, I think.

    But what do the Libs even stand for now? \And warning people that things are going to get tough is bad strategy. People seem more inclined to vote Labor if they think they’ll be needing handouts.


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  39. I did Campbell 1, Pauline 2, the number 2 on LDP ticket as 3, Pauline’s no 3 pick as 4 and the independent with the Hungarian name as #5 (why not, at least we have something in common 🙂 ), then worked my way through the rest of the pack and as I said put Stoket last behind the Socialist Alliance and the Greens


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  40. These people are MAD…

    Quite. Otoh, their government debt to GDP ratio coming out of covid is positively respectable compared to Josh’s borrowings; what’s more, it’s predicted to peak at c. 20% in 24/25 and decline thereafter, while ours increases to c. 40% over the same period (& will probably increase further if Labor occupy the Treasury benches).


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  41. The AFR View

    Labor set to win an election but not a mandate

    It would be an unusual win for Labor – with no grand policy ambitions or sweeping difference from the incumbent Coalition government.

    Saturday’s federal election is not quite settled. Polling has tightened, with the primary votes for Coalition and Labor neck and neck on 35 per cent and 36 per cent respectively in The Australian Financial Review-Ipsos poll on Friday. Both primary votes are weak, a continuing trend.

    Both parties need the large numbers of undecided voters, plus a cascade of preferences from the big field of independents and minor parties, to break their way on Saturday.

    The two-party preferred prediction – though based on past preferences – says that’s most likely to be Labor, putting Anthony Albanese in The Lodge in his own right.

    It would be an unusual win for Labor. Unlike the last three Labor prime ministers to take power from opposition – Gough Whitlam, Bob Hawke and Kevin Rudd – Mr Albanese seeks to do so in 2022 with no grand policy ambitions or sweeping difference from the incumbent Coalition government.

    With lower sights, Mr Albanese may at least not have as far to fall as did two of his predecessors. Yet a trillion dollars of gross debt demands the opposite of what he is offering: a budget deficit reduction strategy.

    Even if Mr Albanese had one, it would be made harder by the global inflation spike produced by the pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine that is driving global interest rates higher.

    Labor’s main idea in response is to carry on spending on caring services – childcare, aged care and disability care – which have lifted in voter consciousness after the rigours of the pandemic made protective big government popular.

    Australia’s insular political debate hasn’t noticed the more intense cost-of-living crunches in the US, the UK and Canada under governments on both the left and the right.

    Labor in Australia is unlikely to have much better ideas than Jacinda Ardern’s Labour government in New Zealand, where inflation has jumped to 6.9 per cent, higher than the 5.1 per cent in Australia. Real wages are falling faster in Labour-Greens ruled New Zealand.

    Bank of England governor Andrew Bailey last week warned he was “helpless” in the face of “apocalyptic” global food prices. The Americans are rushing in supplies of baby formula from Switzerland in the face of domestic shortages. This isn’t all Scott Morrison’s fault, you know.

    Raised in the Socialist Left faction of Labor, Mr Albanese has shown little engagement with the Hawke-Keating policy reform model which began decades of aspirational prosperity.

    If elected prime minister, he also will have to balance the generational challenge of decarbonising Australia with the realities of a global fossil fuel crisis that is about to push up the cost of living here.

    A green transition must feed in renewables while managing out the declining, but critical, base of fossil fuels – Europe has shown what happens when that goes wrong.

    Getting that balance right in Australia will be more challenging if today’s vote delivers a hung parliament which ends with Labor forced to accommodate the Greens, or the teal independents.

    A Labor minority government?

    That second possibility also would confirm that the old broad-church parties across the Western world are shaking apart.

    Blue-green hybrid teal independents threaten to peel away once-solid Liberal city seats full of comfortably-off voters now preoccupied by vibe issues of urgent (rather than effective) climate action, “integrity” and the needed catch-up on gender progress.

    They are a reaction to the working-class discontent in regional electorates which helped produce Mr Morrison’s miracle win in 2019.

    And the all-female teals, some even the daughters of Liberal blue bloods, also personify Mr Morrison’s problems with women voters in this election, even amid a 3.7 per cent female jobless rate.

    A Labor minority government supported by teals in former blue-ribbon Liberal seats should provoke a major rethink of what and who the Liberal Party should stand for in the 2020s.

    Or another Morrison miracle?

    The third possibility is that the relentless Mr Morrison once again threads the electoral needle seat by marginal seat, as he did in 2019.

    While it would be a personal triumph, he would be left with all the challenges of the budget, climate and China, but with his party fracturing between left and right.

    This apparently least likely result – but the one favoured by the Financial Review – would still leave a Coalition-led government needing to correct the course of Australian politics back to the challenges the nation has shied away from recognising during this no-mandate election campaign.


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  42. Fleeced, Morrison deserves the bullet for not doing a thing to rein in the psychotic state premiers during their lockdown and mass vaxx tyrannies. Instead, he did what he could to assist and otherwise stay out of their way. Fuck him. I’m a single issue voter on this. I want to punish the Libs far more than I want to prevent the ALP from forming government.


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  43. UAP top of the ballot in The Tudgers electorate. It’ll be interesting to see how she goes. Avi interviewed her last week and asked about preferencing LNP second. She responded by suggestingn that UAP supporters were free to make their own minds up. I hope she makes a good showing, but Tudger is a lay down misere me thinks. 🙁


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  44. 20 or 30 seats still up for grabs: Shorten.

    Former Labor leader Bill Shorten says he is “cautiously optimistic” early on polling day, but adds this election is highly unusual and many seats could change hands.

    “I’m cautiously optimistic, getting a good vibe on the polling booth,” Shorten tells Channel Nine from his electorate in Moonee Ponds.

    “It’s an unusual election in that there are 20 or 25 seats which could go one way or the other. So it’s not just a couple of seats.”

    Shorten addressed what sauce to have on the sausage sandwich, and the awkward way he ate his “democracy sausage” in 2016, which helped put the term on the map.

    For the record, Shorten favours tomato, the same as Scott Morrison. Anthony Albanese opts for barbecue.


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  45. Never lived in anything approaching a swinging electorate, so the lower house is always a rather boring affair.

    I have my fun in the Senate.

    Here in Tasmania we have not only The Greens (by the eTruck load) but any number of greenies slyly pretending to be some “one issue” activist or another…but you know that if, heaven forbid, they found themselves on the red benches, they’d be indistinguishable from Greens (but even noisier).

    While, deep down, I know that my vote will never trickle down far enough for it to matter, I at least have the pleasure of 20 minutes or so spent trying to select the most egregious to prop up the rest of my choices.

    Sorry for my impact on the queue, by the way.


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  46. From “The Age.”

    Lies and lexicon: clear and present memories in Ben Roberts-Smith case
    Harriet Alexander
    By Harriet Alexander
    May 21, 2022 — 5.00am

    In a trial that has been shot through with military jargon and acronyms too numerous to recall, the arrival of the word “liminal” into the lexicon of the court was certainly memorable.

    Person 38, the eighth witness to be called by war veteran Ben Roberts-Smith in his defamation action against Nine newspapers, identified a “liminal memory” as the type that stands out. He first used it in association with the detonators that Roberts-Smith was carrying when he first saw him at a village compound known as Whiskey 108, which he remembered because they were valuable to the Taliban. He later used it to explain why he remembered the route that he took between village compounds.

    “[We] cleared so many compounds, we had so many contacts, that a lot of what you’re asking is not memorable,” he expounded to the newspapers’ barrister, Nicholas Owens, SC, when asked to describe what he meant by the term.

    “A memorable event is someone showing a lack of courage or me thinking when we got to the aqueduct, ‘Am I going to get my explosive device wet moving through the aqueduct?’

    “Finding a tunnel was a clear memory. If I’m correct in my definition of ‘liminal’ they’re important [memories]… They’re different. They’re not just another day in the office.”

    The word “liminal” is more commonly used to refer to the ambiguous, transitional phase between two states of being, but Person 38’s differentiation between memory types is pertinent. The soldiers giving evidence have been asked to pull recollections from the blur of dozens of operations more than a decade ago. Which makes it all the more bizarre that the two groups of soldiers can be so certain about entirely different versions of events.

    Take the alleged murder of two Afghan prisoners at Whiskey 108, which moved to the fore again in the twelfth week of this trial. One fact is uncontroversial. On April 12, 2009, Australian soldiers unearthed a tunnel in the courtyard of a village compound known as Whiskey 108 in southern Afghanistan.

    The group that gave evidence about Whiskey 108 for the newspapers – five soldiers in total – are clear that one or more Afghans emerged from the tunnel. Three of those soldiers said they witnessed Roberts-Smith or another soldier shoot them dead while they were in the custody of Australian troops, which is considered murder under the rules of engagement.

    But some witnesses for Roberts-Smith, who were also present when the tunnel was identified, are equally adamant that there was nobody in the tunnel and the only Afghans killed were enemy combatants outside the compound. And they go further than being unable to remember whether any fighting-age males were detained: they have a positive recollection that no such prisoners existed.

    Owens, for the newspapers, says the only logical explanation for the discrepancy between the two accounts of what happened at Whiskey 108 is that one group of soldiers is lying. And if that is the case, it follows that they are doing so in collusion.

    Several of Roberts-Smith’s witnesses have denied under cross-examination that they discussed their stories before coming to court. One soldier, Person 29, was sent a marked-up image of Whiskey 108 by Roberts-Smith nine days before he submitted his outline of evidence to the court. Owens asked: “I want to put to you again, when you had a conversation with Mr Roberts-Smith about this document, it was for the purpose of aligning your stories about Whiskey 108 in key respects, do you agree?” Person 29 did not agree.

    The soldier, Person 38, was a softly spoken friend of Roberts-Smith, and the only one of his non-commissioned military witnesses to date who has not been questioned as part of the Inspector-General’s investigation into suspected war crimes. He was discharged from the Special Air Services in 2017 because, he said, the birth of his first child had prompted him to reassess his priorities in life.

    He said none of the newspapers’ witnesses were present in the courtyard when the tunnel was discovered and raised for the first time in court a version of events in which he was clearing an orchard with one of those witnesses a short time later when an execution was alleged to have taken place. That witness, Person 41, told the court in February that he saw Roberts-Smith “frog-marching” one of the men pulled from the tunnel outside the compound, throwing him to the ground and shooting him in the back.

    But Person 38 said he had a liminal memory of clearing the orchard with Person 41, because he had initially asked Person 40 – another of the media witnesses – to help him, and Person 40 had declined due to “cowardice”.

    Owens challenged the assertion that none of the newspaper witnesses were present when the tunnel was discovered, suggesting that Person 38 had fabricated his evidence to place only Robert-Smith’s closest friends on the scene at the crucial moment. Person 38 denied this was so.

    Owens: “The entire account of clearing an orchard with Person 41 is nothing more than an attempt to remove an important witness from a position where he was able to observe what happened at Whiskey 108, correct?”

    Person 38: “Incorrect.”

    Owens: “And I want to put to you that it’s an example of having what you call liminal memories that only assist Mr Roberts-Smith, correct?”

    Person 38: “That is incorrect.”

    The other vein of Person 38’s story, that Person 40’s conduct was memorable for its cowardice, is emerging as a theme among Roberts-Smith’s military witnesses. Some of the witnesses who gave evidence against Roberts-Smith have been described as “poor” and “below standard”, offering an interesting glimpse into the dynamic within the Special Air Services.

    Roberts-Smith is alleged to have threatened to put a bullet in the back of the head of a soldier who has admitted to making a mistake in battle. A soldier, Person 36, did not initially accept when questioned about that comment on Thursday that it was unacceptable to make a death threat against another soldier.

    “To be honest, early in my training career there were things said in debriefs that I could perceive to be death threats,” Person 36 said. “So I guess it depends on the individual and how they perceive that feedback.”

    Person 38 agreed under cross-examination that a lack of courage was the most insulting thing that could be said about an SAS soldier. “It doesn’t change the fact though,” he said.



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  47. Top Ender says:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:13 am
    Cat Call for Election 22…

    Call me chicken – but this is hard to call, since both major Parties have offended so many voters in the last two years.

    What I WANT, and WHAT I HOPE I VOTED FOR is:

    UAP & One Nation holding the balance of power


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  48. Fuck him. I’m a single issue voter on this. I want to punish the Libs far more than I want to prevent the ALP from forming government.

    I hear this a lot. Sadly, if/when they lose, they’ll conclude they didn’t move far enough left. Because they always do.


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  49. My only question is why did it take so long?

    Indeed.
    Something is afoot, though, judging from the array of bishops issuing strong statements of support for the Archbishop.

    Even the local bishop where Pelosi has a holiday home says she will have nowhere to hide:

    Bishop Robert Vasa of Santa Rosa:

    I have visited with the pastor at [Pelosi’s vacation parish] and informed him that if the Archbishop prohibited someone from receiving Holy Communion then that restriction followed the person and that the pastor was not free to ignore it.



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  50. Just dropped a lazy 20 at Sportsbet on the coalition @ 3.70. Just because I can.

    Whatever happens, as long as that faux yank imbecile KK gets the arse I’ll be happy.


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  51. Sadly, if/when they lose, they’ll conclude they didn’t move far enough left. Because they always do.

    Yep.

    We all know that’s EXACTLY how a Morrison loss will be spun.
    Deves, particularly, will be excoriated.


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  52. Daily Mail. “Merry Christmas, Ivan.”

    The White Death sniper who killed 22 Russians on Christmas Day: Inspired by past wartime heroics against the Red Army’s invaders, Finland’s citizens are busy buying rifles and are preparing to give Vladimir Putin a chilling history lesson

    Finnish sniper Simo Hayha is said to have sniped 500 Red Army troops in a year
    Shrouded in white, the 5’2 marksman became on the most prolific in history
    Now, Finns are inspired by the notoriety of the White Death as tensions rise
    A gun shop owner said children are starting weapons lessons – at just seven



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  53. Oh come on says:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:23 am
    Fleeced, Morrison deserves the bullet for not doing a thing to rein in the psychotic state premiers during their lockdown and mass vaxx tyrannies. Instead, he did what he could to assist and otherwise stay out of their way. Fuck him. I’m a single issue voter on this. I want to punish the Libs far more than I want to prevent the ALP from forming government.

    That’s it!!!! Our sentiments exactly.


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  54. Reading elsewhere that the “natives” are restless in remote communities in the NT because of rising food prices due to the cost of trucking stuff in .. bit baffling tho.. would have thought buying yer tucka has gotta be “cultural appropriation”, shirley, when ya just goes walkabout and catch it .. LOL!


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  55. Indeed.
    Something is afoot, though, judging from the array of bishops issuing strong statements of support for the Archbishop.

    I would say charity has made it take so long, but maybe the Dobbs decision, if it pans out, has freed their hand somewhat. I don’t know why exactly but maybe a hit on Roe makes abortion a contentious position among elite opinion and therefore it’s open season.


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  56. Is any Cat able to post The Oz Article by Steve Waterson?

    We cannot let politicians off the hook for this disgrace

    The only way we could compound the disaster we’ve suffered at the hands of our worthless politicians and bureaucrats would be a failure to hold those responsible to account.

    By STEVE WATERSON


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  57. Whatever happens, as long as that faux yank imbecile KK gets the arse I’ll be happy.

    She won’t .. Living in Fowler I can assure you most folk don’t vote for a person but for party, regardless .. Fowler is rusted-on Labor .. myself, I went UAP …….!


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  58. Deves, particularly, will be excoriated.

    Even if she wins but Libs lose, that’s how they’ll spin it.

    Meanwhile, Tim Wilson, who issued a children’s colouring book of him and his “husband” walking their gay dog, could lose his seat and it will be because… the Libs still weren’t far enough Left.

    We really need third party conservatives to hold the balance in the senate. Though if that happens, Libs will just spend all of their time undermining them because they think they’re entitled to their seats. They prefer courting the Greens.

    Anyway, I’m off to vote. This might take a while.


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  59. Even the local bishop where Pelosi has a holiday home says she will have nowhere to hide:

    I was wondering if other bishops would be on board because I’ve previously read that this type of response divides the American bishops. Will be interesting to see what happens in Washington DC, where the archbishop has previously ruled out denying communion to Joe Biden.


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  60. For Old Ozzie:

    Election 2022: Whoever wins, let’s hold our politicians to account

    STEVE WATERSON
    But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
    — George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
    It’s a testament to human resilience that we can push traumatic memories out of our minds and eventually carry on with life; it’s how we recover from the tragedies that can strike at any moment.

    And oh my, how the wretched politicians who orchestrated the carnage of our pandemic response must be hoping that mechanism will kick in soon; but to protect them, rather than their subjects.
    Judging by the silence about the coronavirus during the election campaign, you might wonder if the past two years actually happened. (You may similarly wonder if there has been proper debate about the economy, defence, foreign policy, education, productivity, health or aged care, but perhaps I haven’t been paying close enough attention.)
    Yes, the most extraordinary, most ridiculous, most expensive peacetime catastrophe in this nation’s history passed unremarked upon. And this when Covid cases are soaring way beyond the numbers that saw us terrified and confined to our cages less than 12 months ago.
    It’s churlish, but irresistible, to note that the surge is occurring primarily in Western Australia, whose fantastically arrogant premier lectured the rest of the country on the perfection of his quest for zero Covid. Perhaps he should seek advice now from China, which is helping his fellow hermit kingdom of North Korea as the virus sweeps through its benighted population.
    If we allow ourselves to forget the horror, whoever wins this weekend will gladly sweep it all under the carpet, into the forgettery, as a former prime minister, now rarely seen, once put it.
    So let’s pause briefly to remember social distancing, closed borders (I thought they’d reopened, but on Thursday some bloke on the telly said they hadn’t), daily updates by funereal-faced health mandarins, “the science” (where have we heard that before?), sycophantic media, contact tracing, density limits (other than on politicians’ intellect), taped-off parks, golf courses and beaches, police firing on and beating the people we naively thought they were paid to protect, and the monstrous overreach of idiotic, brutal lockdowns and the byzantine rules and regulations by which they operated.

    Anti-lockdown protesters are confronted by riot police at the Shrine of Remembrance In Melbourne on September 22, 2021.
    Other things, such as masks, remain mandatory on public transport and similar areas under state control, poignant reminders of the madness, like the fading arrows that now only whisper where you should stand or sit; and while we’ve known for some time that the virus isn’t transmitted through surface contact, even by the deadly vectors of pizza boxes and Sherrin footballs, timorous masked shoppers still scuttle about our supermarkets, polish their trolley handles with antiseptic wipes, hold their trembling hands beneath the holy-water gel dispensers and rub them together like Dick Dastardly plotting another wicked scheme. Elsewhere, the memories are fainter. We all know people who joke now about catching Covid but just months ago were cheering our vicious rules and gorging on the delicious taste of fear that made them feel so edgy and alive. Things are getting back to normal for them, and that’s another tragedy in the making. Here’s why.
    The only way we could compound the disaster we’ve suffered at the hands of our worthless politicians and bureaucrats, the state-sponsored oppression that hid their woeful incompetence, would be a failure to hold those responsible to account. We had opportunities while the damage was being done to challenge it, but we wasted them. The media must shoulder much of the blame, attending press conferences to parrot and amplify the already exaggerated and incontinent fearmongering.
    What misery might our journalists have averted had they spent a fragment of their time researching the facts, questioning authority and informing their audience – you know, doing their jobs?
    Instead they, we, were complicit in normalising the excessive response to what some of us then suspected – and most of us now know – was a disease nowhere near deadly enough to justify the panic. The tiny figures for excess deaths recently released by the World Health Organisation make that case very eloquently.

    Thousands take part in the Millions March in February. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Gary Ramage
    The only brilliance shown in the whole fiasco was how the authorities were able to make it socially unacceptable to question the wisdom of their palpably stupid mismanagement.
    Dissenters were vilified; all over the world eminent epidemiologists who questioned the orthodoxy were ridiculed and silenced; anyone who expressed concern at our near-compulsory vaccination pro­­gram was made to feel as though they were cheerleaders for polio and Ebola.
    Governments promoted the credo that if you didn’t embrace even their most absurd restrictions you were irresponsible: if you’re not lounging uselessly at home you’re out spreading.
    The virulence of Covid, though, was thankfully nowhere near as severe as we were told to expect, by which I mean the direct medical impact of a Covid infection. The real, lasting damage done by Covid, or, more accurately, by our reaction to it, is only now beginning to emerge.
    We have learned this week, for example, that the predictable damage done to our children by the two-year gap in their schooling is quantifiable – and utterly devastating. Research here and in other Western countries indicate markedly higher levels of disengagement and despair over their education, of self-harm, of attempted and completed suicide.
    Oncologists in Britain warn of a cancer crisis that will produce a death toll several times that of Covid, and it won’t be restricted to the elderly. Martin Kulldorff, until last year a professor of medicine at Harvard, said this month that lockdowns won’t influence short-term prognoses but will cause, for example, “those who would have lived 15 to 20 years to die from cervical cancer three or four years from now”.
    Further afield, the World Bank says 100 million people in the developing world have been thrown into poverty through lockdowns, which were manageable for those who could work from home. The UN has estimated a quarter of a million children have starved to death in South Asia alone.
    So how do we avoid a repeat of this man-made destruction next time a pandemic or other crisis comes to town? First, let’s find out what went wrong, why the poor decisions were made, who were responsible for them, and what they should have done. Let politicians and bureaucrats explain every incremental step in their shameful assault on our liberty.
    In Australia we regularly hear cries for a royal commission into all manner of egregious behaviour, but they are established only in “rare and exceptional circumstances” to examine matters relating to federal responsibilities. Has there been anything in our peacetime history that better meets these criteria? We weren’t allowed a say in what restrictions were imposed on us when this pandemic arose, so let’s open the discussion before the next one.
    I’d like to know, for a start, why we abandoned the long-established principle of focused protection, a feature of pre-Covid pandemic plans that would have identified and directed protective measures towards the vulnerable: in the present case the very old, the infirm, those with comorbidities such as diabetes and obesity.
    I’m sure many would ask why our elected leaders delegated their responsibility to unelected bureaucrats, or why the federal government outsourced much of its decision-making to the simpletons of state politics.
    Some must be curious about the health advice that supposedly guided the raft of crazy rules that told you how many people could be on Bondi Beach, or why the virus couldn’t travel below head height in bars. Call me cynical, but I don’t believe any such advice existed, although I’d be delighted to be proved wrong by the production of a sheaf of convincing, carefully argued documents.
    Then lockdown, the quintessential blunt instrument. A sensible person would think carefully before closing down the pig-based barter economy of a village in the highlands of Papua New Guinea, but we, panicked by the scenes in China, switched off our advanced Western economy apparently without performing the most rudimentary cost-benefit analysis or anticipating the catastrophic consequences.
    But no, easier to borrow and blow half a trillion dollars, then boast about the world-beating magnificence of our handling of the crisis. It’s deeply depressing to think what might have been bought with that money – the dams, the rail lines, energy security, the hospitals, the submarines, the friendship of our Pacific neighbours – and no surprise that the mainstream politicians who created or tolerated this waste are held in such low esteem: how diminished must you be to drive people to squander their votes on the cretins of One Nation, the halfwits of the United Australia Party, or the insufferably smug marionettes of the teal co-dependents?
    Of course the likelihood of a serious public inquiry into our Covid response is remote; but we can dream and, for so long as it’s permitted, keep agitating for one.
    If not, we might as well join Winston Smith in kowtowing to a system that is already hard at work rewriting history.
    STEVE WATERSON


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  61. Simon Kennedy (Bennelong) being given a hard time by Daytime Sky – they’re trying to make out he’s some sort of bad guy for having doubts about vaccine mandates!


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  62. Vickisays:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:47 am
    For Old Ozzie:

    Election 2022: Whoever wins, let’s hold our politicians to account

    Thanks Vicki – Greatly Appreciated

    Summed up

    Yes, the most extraordinary, most ridiculous, most expensive peacetime catastrophe in this nation’s history passed unremarked upon. And this when Covid cases are soaring way beyond the numbers that saw us terrified and confined to our cages less than 12 months ago.


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  63. Just went to a Pilates class, walked home, bought newspaper, Paddo and Woollahra are awash with teal and pictures of Princess Allegra, it’s a cult, corflutes everywhere emboldened with the words “A better climate for Wentworth” I gotta laugh, yes, yes, the residents of Wentworth will continue the grift, making lotsa dosh from renewables and laughing out loud at the less fortunate residents of Sydney’s great unwashed because here’s the truth, it won’t be a better climate for the residents of Penrith or Mt Druitt or Blacktown or St Marys or Campbelltown or any other less well off part of Sydney.

    The colour teal is making me feel physically sick. I put on a jumper this morning before I left for my Pilates class as it’s chilly here in Sydney and then I realised it was teal coloured. I quickly changed.

    And Sleazy said this morning that he doesn’t rule out forming government with the help of an independent. Imagine this scenario, if Princess Allegra wins here in Wentworth, a hard left PM and Labor government might govern with the help of the member for Wentworth, I think Billy Wentworth will roll over in his grave.


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  64. Dover, I suspect the clincher was Pelosi repeatedly lying about da quickening, Aquinas etc.
    The Archbishop’s statement makes it clear that this constitutes egregious lying and extremely grave scandal.

    But that is exactly the same bullshit that ‘Catholic’ Biden voiced as recently as a fortnight ago.


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  65. New Study Finds mRNA Vaccines Actually Hurt Long-Term Immunity to Covid Compared to the Unvaccinated

    Very interesting if confirmed.

    Meanwhile, on ABC RN this AM, an economist was saying we should all be getting boosters and wearing masks to eliminate covid. Because that’s what the epidemiologists say…


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  66. Mail-order spiders.

    An exploration of global patterns of trade in arachnids reveals 1,264 species from 66 families (Phys.org, 20 May)

    A small team of researchers with members from Thailand, Finland and China, has found that there is a very large and active trade in arachnids across the internet. In their paper published in the journal Communications Biology, the group describes their study of arachnid trade via the internet and possible repercussions of so many of the creatures being traded across the world.

    To learn more about the global trade of arachnids, the researchers went straight to the source: online listings. In so doing, they found approximately 1,264 species for sale or trade. They suggest that far more are for sale than they found because they did not also track sales on social media sites. The researchers noted that the majority of the species they found for sale were not recognized as being traded by any governing or regulatory body—thus all such sales were perfectly legal. They also found what appeared to be a greater reward for sellers who have spiders with more colorful attributes—features which generally indicate that they are rare. They also note that most of those specimens they saw belong to species that are known to have long lifespans, with is another factor that can put a species at risk.

    There you go: there’re apparently thousands of spider collectors who buy spiders on the internet. And they especially like long-lived colourful ones.

    So if a lady invites you back to her house to show you her spider collection she may really have a spider collection.


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  67. Shit, if you’re right shatterzzz, I better get on the drink early today to dull the pain!

    I put $50 on a Fowler/Labor win @ $1.50 ..
    figured I might as well get something back for having to vote here .. LOL!


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  68. C.L., take it as read that whoever raises ‘da quickening, Aquinas etc.’ that a liberal Catholic has been feeding them talking points. It is either that canard or ‘achually, Jesus says nothing against abortion’. It’s brazen sophistry.


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  69. Roger says:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:58 am

    Darn it…you’ll have to load up to pic #9; I think it’s worth it.

    Pic 9 was an eye opener for sure. Need a trigger warning for pic 11. 🙂


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  70. You missed my guess, TopEnder, on the old thread last night.

    LNP chancers, morons and grifters B team to fall over the line by one from the LAB chancers, morons and grifters A team.


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  71. Archbishop Cordileone Tells Priests That Nancy Pelosi Communion Denial Is ‘Pastoral, Not Political’
    The archbishop explained to his priests that since September 2021, he has made several attempts to have a dialogue with Pelosi about her support for legal abortion.

    His notification added that she may be admitted to Communion after having publicly repudiated her advocacy for the legitimacy of abortion and having received absolution.

    Archbishop Cordileone pointed out that the law he is applying in this situation, Canon 915, is found in the book of canon law that deals with the Church’s sanctifying office, rather than in “Book VI, which is the Church’s legislation on penal law.”

    “Thus, this is not a sanction, or a penalty, but rather a declaration of fact: the Speaker is ‘obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin’ (canon 915). A sanction, on the other hand, such as excommunication, has its own particular process and reasons for being applied. This is quite distinct from the application of canon 915,” he explained.



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  72. dover0beachsays:

    May 21, 2022 at 10:41 am

    Can anyone guess what high ONP and UAP vote does in Qld, NSW and Vic in both Houses.

    I suspect the aggregate UAP/ONP vote won’t be much higher than 2019.


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  73. ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’ is a tacit acknowledgement that the neowogboy is going to win.

    SFLs, irredeemably dim from arsehole to breakfast


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  74. Pro-Russian Guy 5% (Z) ??
    @thrussophile2
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    7h
    Azovstal reported fully cleared. Total POWs 2,439.

    Hmm, given the previous surrenders over the last month or so, the reports that only 3-5K UAF defended Mariupol are clearly an underestimate. More likely somewhere between 10-20K.


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  75. Labor to win:
    ….
    MatrixTransform Liars 67; Crossbench 13; LNP 71

    How do you get “Labor win” out of that?
    Unless you are guessing the crossbench will fall at least 9-4 to Labor.


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  76. Darn it…you’ll have to load up to pic #9; I think it’s worth it.

    It was, Roger.
    Bookmarked for later reference.

    Here it is.

    Caption: A woman searches for nails and other metal scraps from remains of burned houses that were gutted during a fire at a poor bayside village in the district of Tondo, Manila, Philippines.

    That’s what poor, grim and gutsy look like, Albo. Spare us your houso whining.


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  77. Shit, if you’re right shatterzzz, I better get on the drink early today to dull the pain!

    Whichever way it goes, I’ve got the bubbles on ice…

    IN VICTORY, YOU DESERVE CHAMPAGNE; IN DEFEAT, YOU NEED IT.” — NAPOLEON BONAPARTE


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  78. “After numerous attempts to speak with Speaker Pelosi to help her understand the grave evil she is perpetrating, the scandal she is causing, an the danger to her own soul she is risking, I have determined that she is not to be admitted to Holy Communion.” the Archbishop said.

    Bravo , that man!


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  79. ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’ is a tacit acknowledgement that the neowogboy is going to win.

    Singo could have written better slogans and jingles in ten minutes.


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  80. Teal really is a sickening colour.
    It’s the colour of the sky. Geez.

    Can’t even get that right, monty. The sky is azure ( blue in case that’s too hard) and cyan (which is a greenish blue). You cannot get teal which is cyan and green.

    If you want something more scientific check out Rayleigh scattering which is how the sun’s light interacts with molecules in the atmosphere. All the major constituent molecules in our atmosphere (oxygen, hydrogen, CO2 et al) shift that light towards blue. You would need to cool the sun down significantly to move light which peaks in the blue-violet end of the spectrum down to the yellow-green required to give us a teal sky.

    We should hope and pray it doesn’t happen soon.


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  81. Tomsays:

    May 21, 2022 at 10:49 am

    here’s hoping parties like LDP and PHON cause havoc in the senate.

    I voted for David Limbrick (LDP)

    #metoo.
    Senate
    I basically used the LDP Senate HTV as a guide although I juggled some of their 2 – 6 preferences (Fat Cloive’s candidates got pushed down).
    Lower house.
    LDP first.
    In no particular order, PHON and three genuine conservative indies next.
    UAP after that.
    Starting from the bottom for the rest …
    Green Last.
    Teal second last.
    ALP third last.
    Lib fourth last.
    I hope Faulty approves.


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  82. ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’ is a tacit acknowledgement that the neowogboy is going to win.

    Exactly.
    Really strange messaging.
    But not quite as annoying as “hole in the budget”.


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  83. m0ntysays:

    May 21, 2022 at 11:57 am

    Teal really is a sickening colour.

    It’s the colour of the sky. Geez.

    Not on planet Earth, fatso.


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  84. Greg Dribbler Sheridan has actually written quite a good piece in today’s Oz titled “Leaders must return to the heartland, true believers are waiting”…here’s a snippet (it isn’t the full piece)..

    “The Liberals are losing social conservatives to Hanson and UAP and losing inner-city affluent progressives to the teals. Their panic over potential teal losses is leading them into destructive decisions. The Victorian Liberal Party is the most spectacularly unsuccessful political outfit in Australia. Generally, it wouldn’t make an impression on a soft pillow. The parliamentary party, almost entirely unknown to anyone not in Parliament House, is planning next Tuesday to expel its only MP from the western suburbs, Bernie Finn. This is allegedly because he is ill-disciplined. Yet the proximate cause is obvious – he is unfashionably pro-life and anti-abortion.

    No one would expect the Liberal Party to adopt pro-life policies. But to expel Finn would demonstrate panic, lack of worthwhile political identity and a failure of confidence in Liberal Party internal democracy. If Finn is no good, why not just run someone better against him in a preselection? But here is the irony. He is the only Liberal who gets any support in Melbourne’s western suburbs and he is highly socially conservative.

    Finn’s pro-life views are exactly the same as those of Jacob Rees-Mogg, who is a senior minister in Johnson’s Conservative government. They are identical views to many Republican Party politicians in the US. The Victorian Liberals are not socially conservative. But if they actively drive out social conservatives from their party they will force the creation of minor parties on the right. Such action looks simultaneously terrified and cowardly in the face of the teal threat, authoritarian in terms of MPs’ free speech and effectively putting an end to the idea of the Liberal Party as a “broad church”. At the same time, the Liberals’ most dedicatedly woke member, NSW Treasurer Matt Kean, was able to denigrate and call for the defeat of the endorsed Liberal candidate in Warringah, Katherine Deves, without a peep of expulsion talk for him.

    Martyn Iles, the leader of the Australian Christian Lobby, thinks the Liberals are missing potential big gains in western Sydney, southeastern Melbourne, western Melbourne and other parts of Australia: “Socially conservative migrant Christians are a huge conservative goldmine. There are votes there for the taking in huge numbers for the Liberals. But only if they operate in their traditional conservative lane. If not, they confuse these voters. The way they’re going, the Liberals are losing social conservatives and progressives.””

    Yep. As for the Victorian Liberals, words fail me…..and believe me, that’s unusual.


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  85. m0ntysays:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:57 am
    Teal really is a sickening colour.

    It’s the colour of the sky. Geez.

    You need to take a colour-blindness test.


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  86. The parliamentary party, almost entirely unknown to anyone not in Parliament House, is planning next Tuesday to expel its only MP from the western suburbs, Bernie Finn. This is allegedly because he is ill-disciplined. Yet the proximate cause is obvious – he is unfashionably pro-life and anti-abortion.

    Areff’s brilliant piece on the Finn lynching and VicShitLibs here if you missed it.


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  87. Can’t even get that right, monty. The sky is azure ( blue in case that’s too hard) and cyan (which is a greenish blue). You cannot get teal which is cyan and green.

    Many of the “teals” have actually been using aqua as their background.

    I live in the western suburbs of Melbourne, our sky gets all sorts of crazy colours.


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  88. How FBI bigwig aided and abetted Hillary Clinton plot

    By Post Editorial Board

    Who needs to spend millions on television commercials or Facebook ads if you’ve got friends in the FBI who can pull off a political dirty trick for you?

    Just look how cozy Hillary Clinton lawyer Michael Sussmann and FBI general counsel James A. Baker are in text messages revealed in Thursday’s testimony at Sussmann’s trial.

    Can you meet tomorrow, Sussmann asks the high-ranking government official.

    “OK, I will find a time,” Baker answers.

    Does he need help getting into the building?

    No, Sussmann answers, I have a badge to get into the Federal Bureau of Investigation. How convenient.

    It was during this meeting that Sussmann peddled the false story that Donald Trump was secretly communicating with a Russian bank.

    Sussmann obviously is guilty of the crime of which special counsel John Durham accuses him, lying to the FBI, despite his claims otherwise. He specifically says to Baker that he’s not coming in “on behalf of any client or company” when he was working for ­Clinton.


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  89. munty

    I live in the western suburbs of Melbourne, our sky gets all sorts of crazy colours.

    You might be living down-wind from a drug cooking house.


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  90. That was a long line. Cold, too.

    Surprised to see Libs actually preference LDP #2 in the senate, based on what I said earlier… they’re still afraid of putting One Nation anywhere, though. The media convinced them it was racist years ago. LOL. Liberals are such mugs.

    ALP is, of course, preferencing Greens #2 in the senate… but with Shooters and Fishers at #3 and then Animal Justice at #4. Then LDP at #5. LMAO. That’s almost balanced.

    I dunno, if LDP gets enough first prefs, they might actually get a spot in NSW.


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  91. Top Ender says:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:13 am

    Cat Call for Election 22…

    Predicted result out of 151 seats up for grabs. (76 to win)

    I think it’s impossible to predict who will eventually win but I’ll make these predictions:

    Primary vote for Liberal and Labor will be down on previous elections
    The winner won’t be decided tonight, the majors will be scouring the last preferences to determine the eventual winner
    The Nats will hold their existing seats
    Minor parties will take the 5th and 6th seats in the Senate in most states

    Regardless of who wins, Australia loses.


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  92. Thanks C.L.
    Honestly, I heard Matthew Guy’s hysterical rant when I jumped in the car that day and commented to Mrs Panzer that someone must have lit a fire under his arse.
    After two years of meek acquiescence to the bullshit served up to us all by the bat-eared hunchback, the only thing which arcs him up is a pro-lifer in his own party.
    And you know what is the worst thing about it?
    Guy didn’t crack it with Finn because of his comments, per se.
    He only whipped himself into a lather when a few Green-Left morons on Twatter went off.


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  93. Dr.Snekotron
    @snekotron
    Now, what is in that $40B package supposedly for Ukraine?

    -8.7B for replenishing US weapons stockpiles
    -3.9B for USEUCOM
    -5B for global food supply chain

    -6B for weapons and training for Ukraine
    -9B economic assistance to Kiev
    -0.9B for Ukrainian refugees

    Something like this was to be expected. Good thread.


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  94. Well ladies and gentlemen (the rest of you can fsck off) , I wish to report on my excursion to the polling booth today.
    In all my many many years of voting this is the first time I have seen a punch up at the polling booth.
    The rudest bunch of pricks you would ever want to encounter. The AEC staff led the way by example, just awful.
    This was at a royal blue booth in an all red electorate.
    The countdown to our very own civil war has begun.

    PS
    Scumo will not win this election.


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  95. ALP is, of course, preferencing Greens #2 in the senate… but with Shooters and Fishers at #3 and then Animal Justice at #4

    For a long time I have suspected that S&F is an ALP astroturfing outfit.
    Made muted noises about pandemic legislation in Victoria, but always fell into line at the 11th hour.


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  96. Idiots in charge of schools:

    A public high school’s decision to remove the front doors of toilet blocks in order to create ‘non-gendered’ facilities has been met with fury among parents.

    In a letter sent to parents and caregivers, Principal of Golden Grove High School in Adelaide, Peter Kuss, advised the changes to the current toilet facilities had been implemented.

    ‘The health, safety and wellbeing of all young people is important to us. We understand that accessing toilet facilities whilst at school can cause anxiety for some students,’ Mr Kuss wrote in the letter.

    Daily Mail


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  97. Fleeced says: May 21, 2022 at 12:53 pm

    That was a long line. Cold, too.

    Similar at my nearest democracy sausage factory.
    The long line to get in was only the beginning.

    The bloke looked up my name in my electorate, which I’d been voting in for over a decade, and my name wasn’t there. I checked in the neighbouring electorate in case the lines had shifted. Not listed there either. Had to make a Declaration vote which goes into the special ballot box on the table.

    What an amazing co-incidence, you say stuff critical of the deep state on the Internet, a month later you’ve dropped off the electoral roll. Just an amazing random co-incidence, right?

    And… the democracy sausage sizzle had run out of bread. But I don’t blame the deep state for that.


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  98. In all my many many years of voting this is the first time I have seen a punch up at the polling booth.

    If the government continues down the path it is on, we may see something worse than just a punch up in the years to come.


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  99. I should also add here, I believe that if the two major parties were to lose a significant amount of seats, they would simply form a Labor/Liberal coalition government as a ‘Fuck you!’ To the general population.


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  100. Daughter just confirmed that the annual Melbourne Uni ball seems to have been a COVID super spreader event, including her.

    Australian Politicians and Bureaucrats COVID response is a pile of wrecked lives, suicides, cash and ego in the middle of a sea of COVID and Vaccine injuries.


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  101. Top Endersays:
    May 21, 2022 at 1:05 pm
    Idiots in charge of schools:

    A public high school’s decision to remove the front doors of toilet blocks in order to create ‘non-gendered’ facilities has been met with fury among parents.

    remove the front doors of toilet blocks – memories of having a dump in Singleton Military Toilets rows with no doors facing each other along the rows


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  102. And… the democracy sausage sizzle had run out of bread. But I don’t blame the deep state for that.

    We didn’t even have one at my booth this year. I normally vote early when they’re just setting up. Today I vote around lunch time, and they’re not there. I wasn’t planning on getting one anyway, but with the long line and cold weather, I probably would have relented.


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  103. democracy sausage factory

    ours was run by the State Govt
    got there, no cooked snags, but two flat-tops full of raw ones on the go
    got out of the booth, snagged a snag but there were only 6 left.
    no more freshies on the go either

    wandering around with my banger and a bloke walks past, “how’s democracy taste, mate?”

    I smiled as I replied, “tastes like a shit sandwich this time !”


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  104. Labor to win:

    pete m Labor to win by 10 seats
    Rabz Labore at least 78 seats
    Cassie of Sydney two or three seats
    Leon L ALP + Greens + TEALS 90; LNP et al 61
    Sancho Labor – 76; LNP – 73; Greens – 1; Teal – 1; UAP – 0
    MatrixTransform Liars 67; Crossbench 13; LNP 71

    You might have missed mine, TE … Labor by 4 seats 🙁


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  105. Roger says:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:52 am
    New Study Finds mRNA Vaccines Actually Hurt Long-Term Immunity to Covid Compared to the Unvaccinated
    Very interesting if confirmed.

    This is not new.
    12 months ago it was known that covid “vaccine” immunity was only spike IgG based and natural immunity was multi antigen and multi immunoglobulin based.
    It was also known that from sars-cov-1 that natural immunity persists at 18 years.
    Immunology 101 natural immunity always greater than vaccine immunity.
    I can probably dig up the papers, but it was at least April last year.


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  106. I live in the western suburbs of Melbourne, our sky gets all sorts of crazy colours.

    Those crazy colours are inside your arse because that’s where your head is.


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  107. I didn’t realise there was a new thread so this is from the end of the old one.

    At my local polling booth I was offered HTV leaflets by Labor, UAP, Liberal Democrats and Greens. Nobody there from the Coalition even though they had a candidate. Granted this is Chris Bowen’s electorate they should have made the effort if only for the sake of their senate vote.

    Last time things were this bad for Liberals was in 2016 when nobody would volunteer for Turnbull. From this alone I would extrapolate that Labor will squeak in.


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  108. Just finished the pilgrimage to my town’s lone polling booth.

    Very long line, but a very convivial group, many being neighbours having chats about rainfall, seeding progress, footy results, Shire road repairs, pub lunch quality, reno progress etc. in fact virtually anything except politics. On the odd occasion opinions were ventured, there seems to be a general dissatisfaction with the majors. The WA Senate count will be interesting (if they don’t lose another pile of completed votes).

    The region has been hived off the electorate of Pearce and transferred to Durack, with poll predictors giving the sitting Lib member a 99.2% of victory.

    The mandatory hairy old hippy and loudmouthed old boiler Greens HTV urgers were haranguing the line and copping many dirty looks and muttered obscenities. Fair bet that this booth will not have too many Green primary votes.

    Off to an election night party tonight. I may be some time.


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  109. with poll predictors giving the sitting Lib member a 99.2% of victory.

    The Labor candidate is ” a proud Yamadji man” who has spent the past twenty years, working in the indigenous industry….


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  110. Dover, Germany needs to feel the inflation good and hard. They are driving the renewables boondoggle for the whole of Europe. Being rich they could live with power costs that would cripple less affluent nations. Now that it’s really beginning to bite even them, or especially them, maybe they will come to their senses and reverse course which would free up the rest of Europe and then the rest of the world.


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  111. dover0beachsays:

    May 21, 2022 at 1:15 pm

    Great article by areff, thanks for posting the link. Fed Libs don’t hold a candle to VicLibs. The worst.

    I hadn’t read areff’s piece before I posted my comment but we agree on the most disgusting part of Guy’s behaviour.
    That is, that he only found Finn’s position untenable after the Twatter mob got after him and the arses of some Teal-Libs started puckering.


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  112. Point just raised by my Wife re SMH Article – (Interrupting Fine Red and watching replay Practice 2 F1 Barcelona)

    Where in the Heck are all the Men?

    The female wave

    Table shows the federal electorates with an above-average proportion of female voters
    Percentage of Australian voters that are women: 51.2%

    30 Electorates with Women (person must be a Biologist) 52% and above

    Have the Men all TransGendered or just been emasculated into Neuter Gender?


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  113. Just got back from voting. I filled the entire senate paper out.

    I didn’t put the Greens last. Though in NSW I put Greens David Shoebridge second last. So who got last spot on my Senate paper?

    Jane Caro of course. I always save last place for the ugly ones.


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  114. MatrixTransformsays:

    May 21, 2022 at 1:21 pm

    How do you get “Labor win” out of that?

    Dunno.
    TE made that call

    That’s really who I was asking.
    And you even have to be explicit about which way you think the Teals will go.
    To me they are so obviously Green-Left, but I was talking to an ALP Rustadon on Thursday who was convinced they were a front for the Libs.


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  115. To me they are so obviously Green-Left, but I was talking to an ALP Rustadon on Thursday who was convinced they were a front for the Libs.

    awesome isn’t it, candicktates who hide their real intentions on the way to power.


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  116. The region has been hived off the electorate of Pearce and transferred to Durack, with poll predictors giving the sitting Lib member a 99.2% of victory.

    Durack, otherwise known as “the areas outside the Filth metropolitan area”, or just marked ‘here there be dragons” on the electoral maps.

    We look at norther Queenslanders complaining about representation and bark our a cynical guffaw.

    For the edification of non-Sandgropers.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Durack


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  117. To me they are so obviously Green-Left, but I was talking to an ALP Rustadon on Thursday who was convinced they were a front for the Libs.

    The wife knows someone who is good friends with local Teal candidate.

    She’s basically a wet Liberal who thinks the party is too reactionary.


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  118. Rogersays:

    May 21, 2022 at 2:26 pm

    For a long time I have suspected that S&F is an ALP astroturfing outfit.

    I have the same suspicion

    Commos in flanno.
    No, seriously.
    I think they are old-school ALP, and are there to capture leakage on the right in upper house elections, and possibly pick up conservatives who think they are voting for Daniel Boone.


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  119. Again Surprisingly SMH

    ‘Low risk’: WHO holds meeting as monkeypox cases top 100 in Europe

    Spain reported 24 new cases on Friday, Madrid time, mainly in the Madrid region where the regional government closed a sauna linked to the majority of infections, taking the total to 30.

    Madrid authorities have been working on tracing the cases mainly from a single outbreak in a sauna, regional health chief Enrique Ruiz Escudero told reporters on Friday. The word sauna is used in Spain to describe establishments popular with gay men looking for sex rather than just a bathhouse.

    The WHO said the early cases were unusual for three reasons: All but one have no relevant travel history to areas where monkeypox is endemic; most are being detected through sexual health services and among men who have sex with men, and the wide geographic spread across Europe and beyond suggests that transmission may have been going on for some time.

    In Britain, where 20 cases have been now confirmed, the UK Health Security Agency said the recent cases in the country were predominantly among men who self-identified as gay, bisexual or men who have sex with men.


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  120. Mallee residents asked to vote correctly after producing Victoria’s highest 2019 informal count

    My willy drawing has caught on.
    I think we can top the 2019 result.
    Mallee – Australia’s most informal voters.
    I like the sound of that.


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  121. Oh come on says:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:23 am
    Fleeced, Morrison deserves the bullet for not doing a thing to rein in the psychotic state premiers during their lockdown and mass vaxx tyrannies. Instead, he did what he could to assist and otherwise stay out of their way. Fuck him. I’m a single issue voter on this. I want to punish the Libs far more than I want to prevent the ALP from forming government.

    That and the net zero bs.


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  122. My only polling booth observation was the blockhead holding an ALP HTV, who had a crack at the UAP HTV guy.
    “I don’t vote for racist, homophobic bigots”.
    It seems like that is how you can project as being an “in tune sophisticated voter” by just accusing everyone who is not ALP-Teal-Green of being a poofter bashing racist bigot.


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  123. COMING SOON – Probably Posed by a Biologist?

    What is a woman? The question that stumped a Supreme Court nominee now resonates through our culture. And, in a rare coup of timing, the movie What Is a Woman?, produced by the Daily Wire, starring Matt Walsh and directed by my friend Justin Folk, will be released on June 1. Matt and Justin traveled around the world, searching for the answer to a simple question that suddenly has become a puzzle.


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  124. I’ll probably watch the coverage on Sky tonight unless it looks like the Libs are going to win in which case it’ll be straight over to the ABC.


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  125. Looking at the latest MonkeyPox (soon to be) panic, one thing occours to me.

    If you have had smallpox vaccination, (which would cover military today and people up to the 1980’s), why then are they getting their panties in a bunch for a direct contact virus that won’t kill you.

    Just saying


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  126. Matt Keen at 8:30 tonight …

    The loss of these seats tells us that we need to adjust our policy position from ‘net zero by 2050’ to ‘net negative before teatime’.
    And pre-select more trans candidates.



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  127. Report confirms White House had advance knowledge of the NSBA’s ‘domestic terrorism’ letter and promised ‘we have your back’

    But as word of the original letter spread people were outraged. By the end of October, the NSBA had apologized for “some of the language” in the letter. But the apology was too little, too late. Within days five state school board associations had withdrawn from the NSBA. By December the number of state associations leaving the national organization reached seventeen. That represented about 40% of the NSBA’s annual dues. By January the number had climbed to 19 and the Washington Post reported the NSBA was on the verge of a total collapse.

    Meanwhile, in an attempt to help them understand what had gone wrong the NSBA hired an outside law firm to write a report about what went wrong. That’s the 55 page report that was released today.

    The first takeaway is a confirmation of something we learned last year. The letter was arranged by Chip Slaven, the interim CEO of the NSBA at the time. However, the White House, in the form of White House Senior Adviser Mary Wall, was heavily consulted about the letter during its drafting.


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  128. Here they come – boatload of Illegal Centrelink Seekers intercepted.

    Hey Kristina ..they got the message.

    Home Affairs Minister Karen ­Andrews has warned that people-smugglers are “already trying to start up their illegal trade on the eve of an election” after the Sri Lankan navy intercepted a fishing vessel carrying dozens of people on Wednesday. A fishing vessel and two ­dinghies were stopped by the Sri Lankan navy off the Batticaloa coast earlier this week, with 40 ­individuals including four people-smugglers apprehended for ­attempting to “illegally migrate to a foreign country by sea”.

    Ms Andrews, who met senior Sri Lankan officials in December about strengthening co-operation to combat people-smugglers, told The Weekend Australian “it’s ­already starting”.

    “We know people-smugglers are watching and waiting for a change in Australia’s government, and they’re already trying to start up their illegal trade on the eve of an election,” she said.

    “Only the Morrison government can keep people-smugglers out of business through our strong stance and consistency on border policy – no one who comes here illegally by boat will ever be allowed to settle in Australia.”


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  129. Haven’t voted. Had a look shortly after one, looked to be a 45 minute queue so I’ve set my alarm for 4.
    Not as many how to vote handers out as last time. I remember there were greens in false colours last time and quite the gauntlet.
    I never heard back again from ldp, must have had enough volunteers.


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  130. I religiously vote around 5.30 pm so that I don’t lose my cool at the vultures trying to coerce me into voting for their suck pardy. A pox on 90% of them.


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  131. Hillary Clinton Did It

    Her 2016 campaign manager says she approved a plan to plant a false Russia claim with a reporter.

    By The WSJ Editorial Board

    The Russia-Trump collusion narrative of 2016 and beyond was a dirty trick for the ages, and now we know it came from the top—candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton. That was the testimony Friday by 2016 Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook in federal court, and while this news is hardly a surprise, it’s still bracing to find her fingerprints on the political weapon.

    Mr. Mook testified as a witness in special counsel John Durham’s trial of Michael Sussmann, the lawyer accused of lying to the FBI. In September 2016, Mr. Sussmann took claims of a secret Trump connection to Russia’s Alfa Bank to the FBI and said he wasn’t acting on behalf of any client. Prosecutors say he was working for the Clinton campaign.

    Prosecutors presented evidence this week that Mr. Sussmann worked with cyber-researchers and opposition-research firm Fusion GPS to produce the claims on behalf of the Clinton campaign, and to feed them to the FBI. An FBI agent testified that a bureau analysis quickly rejected the claims as implausible. (Mr. Sussmann has pleaded not guilty.)

    Prosecutors asked Mr. Mook about his role in funneling the Alfa Bank claims to the press. Mr. Mook admitted the campaign lacked expertise to vet the data, yet the decision was made by Mr. Mook, policy adviser Jake Sullivan (now President Biden’s national security adviser), communications director Jennifer Palmieri and campaign chairman John Podesta to give the Alfa Bank claims to a reporter. Mr. Mook said Mrs. Clinton was asked about the plan and approved it. A story on the Trump-Alfa Bank allegations then appeared in Slate, a left-leaning online publication.

    On Oct. 31, 2016, Mr. Sullivan issued a statement mentioning the Slate story, writing, “This could be the most direct link yet between Donald Trump and Moscow.” Mrs. Clinton tweeted Mr. Sullivan’s statement with the comment: “Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank.” “Apparently” is doing a lot of work in that sentence.

    In short, the Clinton campaign created the Trump-Alfa allegation, fed it to a credulous press that failed to confirm the allegations but ran with them anyway, then promoted the story as if it was legitimate news. The campaign also delivered the claims to the FBI, giving journalists another excuse to portray the accusations as serious and perhaps true.

    Most of the press will ignore this news, but the Russia-Trump narrative that Mrs. Clinton sanctioned did enormous harm to the country. It disgraced the FBI, humiliated the press, and sent the country on a three-year investigation to nowhere. Vladimir Putin never came close to doing as much disinformation damage.


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  132. Re wuflu, my wife got it Friday a week ago, she tested herself and confirmed, she had a sore thorat, a few aches and pains and a headache for the first couple of days, then recovered. No more that a very mild flu for her. I didn’t test because I felt fine and have felt fine all week, that’s sharing a bed and everything else in the house.


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  133. “Only the Morrison government can keep people-smugglers out of business through our strong stance and consistency on border policy – no one who comes here illegally by boat will ever be allowed to settle in Australia.”

    From the same mob that not only let all the medical rorters back in (via the Phelps agenda) but over the past coupla months has released them all onto the streets ….. not one of the ’emergency” cases ever required ICU care most didn’t get anything other than a routine check-up ….FFS!


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  134. Down the street. Walked past the polling place. Got talking to a couple of the minions handing out HTV cards. Got gravely assured “Oh,no, Labor’s the Party that looks after the battlers.”

    “Fvck off, today’s Labor Party wouldn’t know a battler if they fell over one in the street.”


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  135. memories of having a dump in Singleton Military Toilets rows

    Damm you Old Ozzie.
    I had successfully pushed that vivid visual deep into the forgettery – until now.


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  136. Cat Call for Election 22…with three hours to go

    Predicted result out of 151 seats up for grabs. (76 to win)

    Coalition to win:

    Winston Smith 84
    Knuckle Dragger 80
    Tom 80 LNP, 70 the rest (Liars-Filth). Simon’s leg-openers: ZERO.
    Top Ender 79 (ineligible for prize)
    Lizzie 78
    Eyrie 78
    Calli 77
    Fleeced Libs to get between 76-80 seats
    Rosie LNP by one; nothing for teals, 1 green 2 independents
    Megan LNP chancers, morons and grifters B team to fall over the line by one from the LAB chancers, morons and grifters A team.
    Roger LNP to win 73 seats (ALP 72) & form government with support of independents
    Fair Shake Scomo as a minority government…after two weeks of recounts. He takes it by 2
    Chris Put me down for 3?????

    Delta A Hung parliament – 74 seats each – with Greens and One nation voting each way. Rebekha Sharkie (Centre Alliance) going with LNP.

    Hung parliament

    2dogs Hung parliament with about 65 each for the majors
    Armadillo hung Parliament with one teal holding the balance of power
    MatrixTransform Liars 67; Crossbench 13; LNP 71

    Labor to win:

    pete m Labor to win by 10 seats
    Rabz Labore at least 78 seats
    Cassie of Sydney two or three seats
    Crossie Labor will squeak in
    Leon L ALP + Greens + TEALS 90; LNP et al 61
    Sancho Labor – 76; LNP – 73; Greens – 1; Teal – 1; UAP – 0


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  137. Many of the “teals” have actually been using aqua as their background.

    They’re both variants of cyan.

    Just to be sure, the local Teal used both aqua and teal on her corflutes.


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  138. “Matt Keen at 8:30 tonight …

    The loss of these seats tells us that we need to adjust our policy position from ‘net zero by 2050’ to ‘net negative before teatime’.
    And pre-select more trans candidates.”

    And purge the party of the base….those filthy far-right Trumpians and Putin sympathisers.


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  139. OK. Back from handing out HTV’s for Barney. Bloody quiet at my booth. Too quiet.

    Eight candidates in New England, with only 3 handing out HTV’s (Barney, ALP plus 1 of the Independents).

    My observation was that only 1 in 10 punters wanted a HTV. I’ve never seen that before. I’m not too sure what to make of that. Lotsa donkey votes? Lotsa people just getting their name ticked off? It doesn’t seem credible to me that 9 in 10 had already “made up their mind” and researched where they were putting their preferences beforehand. There was a distinct air of “I couldn’t give a shit, they are all as bad as each other”. Pretty lacklustre stuff.

    The only bloke that everyone absolutely didn’t want a bar of was the Labor candidates mule (who happened to be the candidates son). He only managed to giveaway a single HTV in the two hours I was there.

    On the upside, there is free piss at the after party. If they do a “live cross” tonight, Ill be the bloke in the background with a Schooner glass in each hand. It’s my one and only chance of getting my “snout in the trough”.


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  140. bonssays:

    May 21, 2022 at 3:25 pm

    Will Caroline Jones be finally removed from the ABC payroll or will that require a Board resolution.

    Another limpet employed from school to grave.
    I wonder how much she pulled for the Strayan Story gig.
    A series of 30-45 second top ‘n tail pieces which would be recorded back-to-back in one day. Four hours in make-up, two hours reading the Bidencue.


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  141. My observation was that only 1 in 10 punters wanted a HTV.

    The party that puts up non-compulsory voting as a policy might be on to a winner!


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  142. “Here they come – boatload of Illegal Centrelink Seekers intercepted.”

    It begins. I commented this morning as to how long before the people smugglers get going but this shows precisely how emboldened they are, they haven’t even waited for the votes to be counted. They know full well that Labor and the Green will simply wave their hands and let them through….coz….coz……coz….they’re the “compassionate” ones. The smugglers have been itching for this for almost nine years. How long before we see boats and bodies smashed up on rocks? But who in the progressive left care about such trivialities, in the immortal words of Senator Hanson-Dung…….”accidents happen”.

    All I can say is if the skanky Teal Independents get up and enter into an alliance with Labor, then these illegals should be billeted in Wentworth, Warringah, North Sydney, Kooyong, Curtin and Goldstein. Now that’ll be fun.


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  143. Armadillosays:

    May 21, 2022 at 3:40 pm

    OK. Back from handing out HTV’s for Barney

    How dare you!
    Did his HTV show correct examples of how to draw a dick and balls on a ballot?


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  144. It’s my one and only chance of getting my “snout in the trough”.

    Hammer it Armadillo.

    Though I think you might be shortchanging the punters not wanting HTV cards – there’ll be plenty who know how to vote.


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  145. Top Ender says:
    May 21, 2022 at 3:19 pm

    Cat Call for Election 22…with three hours to go

    Predicted result out of 151 seats up for grabs. (76 to win)

    If it’s not too late, I’ll have a punt on the ALP winning 86 seats outright.

    The ALP hates the Coalition. The Watermelon Party, its adjuncts and its beards hate the Coalition. Indepenents hate the Coaltion. People who hate the ALP, The Watermelon Party and the independents hate the Coalition. Most Coalition voters hate the Coalition. And the parliamentary party are such ****s that they’ll probably vote against themselves, too.

    So. ALP: 86 seats.


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  146. Cassie:

    “Anthony Albanese said he won’t rule out negotiating with independents if the Labor Party forms a minority government after tonight’s election. Latest updates, where to vote”

    Which is also code for “he won’t rule out negotiating with Greens”.

    It’s gonna be a fun three years.

    Australia over the next three years is not going to be a boring place.
    Unpleasant as Hell, yes.
    But not boring.


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  147. Old Ozzie:

    I’m guessing the 13% misbehaving again.

    Using the Pravda/Trud News Interpretation Mod 2022.3, It would have been part of an ongoing Martian vs Venusian Triad squabble over Oxygen levels in their rented properties, OR another mob of Blacks/Hispanics fighting over a misspelled gang tag.
    Either is possible in Lightfoot City.


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  148. I’m reading a Song for Nagasaki by Paul Glynn.
    Beautiful story of Catholic convert and radiologist Takashi Nagai who married into one of Japan’s secret Christian family.
    Paul gives you a fantastic potted history of Japan as part of introducing Dr Nagai, including the story of the secret Christians, at this point im up to where he’s just off as a conscripted medic for a four and a half year stint in the Japanese army in the mid 1930s.


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  149. Indolent:

    Even Democrats Are Getting Sick of Presidentish Joe Biden

    The fact the O’Biden/Harris Administration isn’t being impeached in toto is an indication of how corrupt the US system is.


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  150. Dot:

    Yes. No one seems to be worried about the level of public debt anymore.

    I keep mentioning the Australian Federal and State government debt levels of $Trillion 1.5 and it just sinks like a stone – even here.

    Total Government Debt is the gross sum of liabilities across federal, state and local Government in Australia.
    Total Australian Government Debt increased by a mere 13.5% from December 1989 to December 2007, from AU$81.2 billion to AU$92.1 billion.
    However, from December 2008 to December 2017 Total Australian Government debt increased by over 520% from AU$115.4 billion to AU$716.3 billion.
    The primary reason behind this increase has been to provide depth in the market for government bonds so that the Reserve Bank of Australia can easily increase liquidity through open market operations by printing more Australian Dollars and buying the government bonds back.



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  151. Just voted. It was at a joint Brisbane/Ryan polling booth. There just one kid handing out HTV cards for the LNP. There were way more Greens workers — I mostly see Greens signs and a smattering of LNP one. feels like it will become Greens, just like the state electorate.


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  152. OCO:

    Let’s assume she’s lying. If she calls his bluff and puts out a false description, then he’s going to have to make it known to the public to refute her. I don’t want to know about that.

    A statement from an expert witness – i.e. Doctor would be sufficient.


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  153. I’ll go with hung, LNP 71, Lab 70, ferals (hopefully conservative…) 10.

    Praying for a complete cluster fuck for parliament, not us long suffering taxpayers.


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  154. Top Endersays:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:13 am

    TE, SFLs at 74, Liars at 66, the rest on the crossbench made up of the current crop, less Helen Haines (go sfw!) and the rest, fingers crossed, a combo of UAP/ON.


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  155. Electricity Bill was good. It made a point.

    Indeed it did. The point was, that under Shorten’s ‘Net Zero’ plan, electricity prices would rise.

    Now just three years later, SloMo has enthusiastically embraced the same plan. Imbecile.


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  156. I do have a suggestion as to how ALL the parties could save themselves a shitload of time, money and resources.

    Ban the HTV human seagulls altogether. I certainly had better things to do with my time on a Saturday (as did the rest of them).

    Walk into polling booth and get your name ticked off. Get your ballots and proceed to the voting cubicle.

    Each cubicle has a HTV from each party plastered on the wall. Ensure the most “prominent position” is rotated in each cubicle (so one party doesn’t get an advantage over the others). For example Liberals might have the “front and centre” position in the first cubicle, but bottom left in the next, top right in the next….and so on.

    Allow each party is allowed to have a large “standard size” advertisement as you enter the facility i.e this is what we are offering, these are our policies e.t.c….

    Fair dinkum, we all get bombarded with all this shit during the lead up to the election. At least on the day, FFS let us vote in peace without harassing people until the very last second we walk in the door.


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  157. All I can say is if the skanky Teal Independents get up and enter into an alliance with Labor, then these illegals should be billeted in Wentworth, Warringah, North Sydney, Kooyong, Curtin and Goldstein. Now that’ll be fun.

    If you want to see a sinister motive for the quarantine camps, this is it.
    “Why pay to send them offshore to Nauru when we have brand new facilities sitting idle in every state?”
    (Complete with 3 foot high fences).


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  158. “Here they come – boatload of Illegal Centrelink Seekers intercepted.”

    And this is the reason that there should be no early voting, apart from genuine reasons. Voting early means that so much of the campaign is still to be known. The SFLs housing policy for first home buyers is a case in point and the main chancers on the high seas is another.


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  159. From The Oz, okay Liberal Party, this is your future, it isn’t in electorates like Warringah and Wentworth…..KISS THEM GOODBYE….

    “Transgender views strike a chord in city’s west

    The views of Warringah Liberal candidate Katherine Deves on transgender athletes appear to be shifting votes for the Coalition in western Sydney as the contro­versy around her mobilises ­religious communities.

    Religious leaders in the western suburbs – a key electoral battleground – said the storm around Ms Deves, who is against transgender athletes playing alongside women and girls, was cutting through with their ­constituents. The Coalition is targeting western suburb seats in the hope of offsetting expected losses elsewhere.

    Scott Morrison has visited Parramatta, currently held by Labor on a margin of 3.5 per cent, six times this election to support Liberal candidate Maria Kovacic.

    The seats of Greenway and Werriwa are also considered outside chances.

    A Sydney Liberal powerbroker who didn’t wish to be named said Ms Deves was “shifting votes” in the west as she represented the views of a “silent ­majority of people that are sick to death of wokeness” and were disappointed by the Morrison government’s failure to pass religious discrimination legislation.

    “Is it enough to save the ship?” the person asked. “I don’t know there is enough of her to go around.”

    Andrew Charlton (pictured above left), a managing director at Accenture and former economic adviser to Kevin Rudd, was a late captain’s pick parachuted into the key Sydney seat held by Owens since 2004. Owens, who won the seat from Liberal Ross Cameron, suffered a swing against her at the 2019 election. Charlton, a well-respected economist and leading candidate for fast-tracking into the ministry, lives outside the electorate and his preselection angered local Labor branches. Liberal HQ had been eyeing off the seat before preselection chaos delayed the selection of Maria Kovacic (pictured above right) as the party’s candidate.

    While many pundits believe Ms Deves’ transgender comments don’t sit well with her own electorate, the controversy has helped her campaign in one ­respect: volunteers from western Sydney have been travelling to the north shore to help at her pre-polling booths in Warringah.

    Her campaign co-ordinator, Jonathan Malota, said he was surprised by the number of volunteers from the west, which he said increased the more Ms Deves spoke publicly about the issue. “I can’t tell you how many bus timetables I have given out,” he said. “The more she spoke the more those in the west wanted to help.”

    UTS sociology emeritus professor Andrew Jakubowicz said the resounding No vote in the 2017 same-sex marriage plebiscite in western Sydney indicated voters would be receptive to Ms Deves’ views.

    “These are communities with a high number of people from non-English-speaking backgrounds, both immigrants and their children, and voters who have high rates of religious alignment,” he said.

    He described the Deves controversy as “symbolically salient and anxiety provoking” for specific voters and it had the ability to “shift preferences with significant consequences”.

    “These communities were most heavily targeted in Covid by drastic lockdowns, job loss, surveillance, and are resentful and hurting, especially compounded by rising prices and stagnant wages,” he said.

    In a close contest Professor Jakubowicz predicted marginal voters might “abandon their economic interest (supporting the ALP on wages) and follow their emotional response on moral issues”.

    At the Victory Life Church in Blacktown, Shadey Hawae said Christian communities had been “mobilised” by the Deves controversy. “She is saying what the ­average Australian thinks but is scared to voice,” he said.

    Further west at Glendenning, Come to Jesus Church lead pastor Jim Yap said his congregation was concerned by the prospect of transgender athletes playing sport with girls.

    Catholic Weekly editor Peter Rosengren said the controversy exposed the double standards of “woke activism”.

    “There was no shortage of politicians, activists and media identities lining up to condemn Ms Deves,” he said. “However, when Senate candidate Mich-Elle Myers was exposed tweeting slurs about both Jesus and the Catholic Church, her attacks went unchallenged.”

    A Catholic youth worker, who did not wish to be named, said Ms Deves was “speaking for religious people in western suburbs” but said religious leaders were not necessarily keen to engage publicly about her.

    At a shopping centre in Seven Hills, in the electorate of Greenway, Celia Rennie said she felt “upset and angry” about how Ms Deves was treated.

    “I felt sorry for her, they were trying to cancel someone they didn’t agree with.”

    Labor holds the electorate of Greenway by a margin of 2.8 per cent. After the 2019 election, local MP Michelle Rowland identified the party’s misunderstanding of religious voters as a central issue in the election loss, conceding the party “didn’t get it right”.”

    THIS IS YOUR FUTURE LIBERAL PARTY.


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  160. Each cubicle has a HTV from each party plastered on the wall.

    Even better.
    QR codes which you can scan and read voting preferences on your phone.
    Of course, they would need to be placed securely near the front desk to prevent them being coloured in and rendered unusable.
    A QR code, a logo/photo of a given size, party/candidate name and 128 characters for a slogan or promotion “UAP – for freedom” or “Teal Independent – Using Stolen SGIO Money to Save us from Corruption”.
    The end.


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