Open Thread – Weekend 21 May 2021


Landscape with bridge, Ivan Shishkin, late 1800s

1,395 responses to “Open Thread – Weekend 21 May 2021”

  1. Tintarella di Luna Avatar
    Tintarella di Luna

    Ciao bongiorno

  2. Behind Enemy Lines Avatar
    Behind Enemy Lines

    ?

  3. CrazyOldRanga Avatar
    CrazyOldRanga

    Well, hello there.

  4. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    yeeha!

  5. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    I still can’t comment. Everything ends up in moderation.

  6. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Five’s up!

  7. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Elon goes off the lefty reservation and the predictable happens…

    Elongate | Power Line (20 May)

    A woman has made a hearsay allegation against Elon Musk, claiming that on a company airplane in 2016, he exposed himself to and propositioned a flight attendant.

    To which Elon replies as any guy should…

    Musk challenges private jet sex accuser to describe intimate body parts after sexual misconduct allegations (21 May)

    Elon Musk called the woman who accused him of sexual misconduct a “far-left actor” who has “a major political axe to grind” — and challenged her to verify her claims by describing a part of his anatomy “not known by the public.”

    Maybe the suddenly outraged wymminse could draw us a picture.

  8. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Made the First Eleven!

  9. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Elbow as he is now is a very handsome man
    No idea how much the make-over cost but if it were me I’d be after my money back ..!
    he wasn’t a centrefold before but now he doesn’t even rate the bottom of the last page advert space … pix of him lately, make him look sickly .. I scrubbed up better than that on chemo .. FFS!

  10. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Tintarella di Lunasays:
    May 21, 2022 at 10:02 am
    Ciao bongiorno

    Someone’s been drinking the AnAl-ade, early! .. LOL!

  11. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Elon Musk called the woman who accused him of sexual misconduct a “far-left actor” who has “a major political axe to grind” — and challenged her to verify her claims by describing a part of his anatomy “not known by the public.”

    Shane Bourne moved from ABC “comedy” to “drama” about a medical insurance company. In one episode, he asked a woman accusing a doctor of forcing her into oral sex whether the accused was circumcised or not. Her claim collapsed at that point.

  12. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Buddhist monk You Tuber in Fowler asking KKK to show his audience how to fill in the squares.

    I thought it was a Buddhist principle not to inflict pain and suffering on others?

  13. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    No idea how much the make-over cost but if it were me I’d be after my money back ..!

    He didn’t have a makeover – he just finally lost his baby fat.

    FTR, I think he looks better… or did at the start of the campaign – he looks worse when he’s agitated, which was happening a lot with some journalists.

  14. Petros Avatar
    Petros

    Prediction:
    Prime minister Scott Morrison
    Deputy prime minister Anthony Albanese

    I hope I’m wrong but this is what the uniparties do around the world.

  15. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Am I out of moderation yet? Come on dover, lift ya game!

  16. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    (Narcissistic repost from OOT stasis)

    To be fair, the idiocy is not confined to the ABC. There have been some really stupid assumptions made by the major party campaign strategists that illustrate how out-of-touch these people are. Here are a few I can think of:

    – that Julia Gillard can move the needle for Labor. They think she has juice. She doesn’t

    – that John Howard can move the needle away from the teals and back to the Libs in their blue ribbon seats. They think he has juice within these electorates. He doesn’t

    -a special sandgroper edition: that welding yourself to Mark McGowan is going to win you votes because he’s so beloved by Western Australians. He isn’t. His temporary Covid-era sheen has well and truly worn off and he’s just another politician now – this has been the case for at least 6 months and probably longer. Yet Morro went out of his way to kiss McFuckface’s arse as frequently as possible while campaigning here, and Albo was seldom seen without McGowan by his side

    Is it any wonder that there is such widespread disaffection with the major parties? They are tired, stupid and unimaginative. They have nothing compelling to offer. They think lazy assumptions and looking to the past cuts through with voters. They are wrong. Ultimately, they don’t understand the electorate.

  17. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    Petros, we didn’t even do that during WW2 when the country was in an existential crisis. It won’t happen now. The majors will go to another election if neither can form a stable government.

  18. Dot Avatar

    Elon Musk called the woman who accused him of sexual misconduct a “far-left actor” who has “a major political axe to grind” — and challenged her to verify her claims by describing a part of his anatomy “not known by the public.”

    If he bought her two horses, she would have shut up.

  19. dover0beach Avatar

    Rohanc
    @rohancct
    ·
    22m
    A few predictions.
    – both parties will get a primary vote in the mid 30’s (this last occurred in 1906)
    – UAP will do very well in Outer Melbourne and Sydney.
    – One Nation will kill it in Queensland.
    – the preferences will spray all over the place.

    I think this is about right but I have no idea how it translates electorally. If only we had someone like Baris to do the work.

  20. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    OCO, you’re dead right about the reflected sheen of has-beens and MaoGowan.
    That’s why they’ve only come out in week 6, whereas AnAl has been spruiking his lonely mum and fresh cast wog flash since day 1.

  21. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    and challenged her to verify her claims by describing a part of his anatomy “not known by the public.

    Let’s assume she’s lying. If she calls his bluff and puts out a false description, then he’s going to have to make it known to the public to refute her. I don’t want to know about that.

  22. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Someone in the ABC will soon be preparing a shot of something invigorating in order that Anthony Green can keep us all informed for the next 20 hours. Can’t wait.

  23. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    AnAl popping west every week, but never donning flouros, is a good sign that he desperately needs urban seats Swan-Hasluck-Cowan-Curtin

  24. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Elbow as he is now is a very handsome man

    put his head on a plaque and hang it in the press gallery

  25. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    the woman who accused him of sexual misconduct

    There needs to be a statute of limitations on this sort of preposterous fabricated rubbish. Either you report it at the time or just STFU.

    Any collectivist hate figure will inevitably end up being accused of this. So tired and so predictable.

  26. Dot Avatar

    Fleecedsays:
    May 21, 2022 at 10:17 am
    Am I out of moderation yet? Come on dover, lift ya game!
    moderated

    This is kind of funny but shows how useless computing can really be.

  27. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    I’m Freeeeeeeeee!

  28. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    Elbow as he is now

    Turkey necks like that require some serious effort. He looks like Mr Mackey.

  29. dover0beach Avatar

    Fleeced and 2dogs, out of moderation. Welcome, Fleeced.

  30. Dot Avatar

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  31. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Reposting because it was moderated (twice) in the old thread:

    Not sure how the Teal “independents” will do in general, but a lot of talking heads on the tele seem to think Tim Wilson is a goner. It’d be worth the laugh to see it happen, I guess.

    Anyway, I find it hard to care who wins, as we don’t have a conservative party, and despite Paul Murray insisting the contrary, ScoMo’ll sign away our sovereignty to WHO. The phuk-knuckle was boasting about it before vehemently denying it.

    Anyway… my prediction is still Coalition with an increased majority. Mostly because I like being contrarian… but here’s hoping parties like LDP and PHON cause havoc in the senate.

  32. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Hiya, Fleeced! Long time no see.

  33. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Fleeced and 2dogs, out of moderation. Welcome, Fleeced.

    Thanks, dover. Though I had to reveal my secret identity.

  34. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    before vehemently denying it

    Yes, obviously responding to some less than glowing feedback from focus groups.

    If Morristeen said the sky was blue, I’d walk outside and check.

  35. dover0beach Avatar

    Can anyone guess what high ONP and UAP vote does in Qld, NSW and Vic in both Houses.

  36. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    There is no bad outcome in Fowler.

    Nor Goldstein, where Lib’s Tim Wilson is up against a Teal.

    Tom wrote:

    Hiya, Fleeced! Long time no see.

    Thanks, Tom.

  37. dover0beach Avatar

    It’s safe with me, Fleeced.

  38. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    here’s hoping parties like LDP and PHON cause havoc in the senate.

    I voted for David Limbrick (LDP) in the No.1 position for the Senate. As de facto state opposition leader since 2020 after the Stupid Fucking Liberals vacated the field, he’ll make a fine senator for Victoria, building on the excellent work by Senator David Leyonhjelm between 2014 and 2019.

  39. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    Made it into the Senate Top Fifty!

  40. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    I’m Freeeeeeeeee!

    not in this country

  41. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Big news:

    Catholic bishop bars communion to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi over abortion rights support.

    The archbishop of San Francisco said Friday that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who is Catholic, can no longer receive the sacrament of communion because she has declined to back down from her push for abortion access.

    Archbishop Salvatore J. Cordileone wrote in a public post Friday that his “many requests” have not been accepted to speak with Pelosi, who is from San Francisco, since she vowed to keep Roe v. Wade. The archbishop said he communicated to Pelosi on April 7 that, should she not publicly repudiate her “advocacy for abortion ‘rights” or refrain from referring to her faith in public, he would have no choice but to deny her communion.

  42. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Is anyone detecting a Gough “It’s Time” mood? I am not.

  43. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    The archbishop referred to the Catholic Church’s Cannon 915, which says that, “Those who have been excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty and others obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion.” The Chatecism of the Catholic Church is against abortion.

    “As you have not publically repudiated your position on abortion, and continue to refer to your Catholic faith in justifying your position and to receive Holy Communion, that time has now come,” the archbishop wrote. “Therefore, in light of my responsibility as the Archbishop of San Francisco to be ‘concerned for all the Christian faithful entrusted to [my] care’ … by means of this communication I am hereby notifying you that you are not to present yourself for Holy Communion and, should you do so, you are not to be admitted to Holy Communion, until such time as you publically repudiate your advocacy for the legitimacy of abortion and confess and receive absolution of this grave sin in the sacrament of Penance.”

  44. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Sorry TE I was being facetious but accurate.

  45. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Is anyone detecting a Gough “It’s Time” mood? I am not.

    Jonova has the perfect cartoon for this.

  46. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Is anyone detecting a Gough “It’s Time” mood? I am not.

    I’m detecting more of a “I hate them all” mood, but especially amongst disaffected Libs.

  47. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Country VIC:

    The clear blue skies are once more crisscrossed with contrails.

    Such and obvious sign of Freedom and Carbon “Pollution” must stick in the craw of our the oppressing political and bureaucratic classes.

  48. JMH Avatar
    JMH

    I have done my duty! HoR: I couldn’t bring myself to put the sitting member below Greenfilth. Second last spot. Senate easy. LDP 1, 2 and 3 below the line followed by 15 minors of the correct persuasion plus 4 Indies. Absolutely NO majors!

  49. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    I’m detecting more of a “I hate them all” mood, but especially amongst disaffected Libs.

    Yep, “which arseholes do I vote for besides the uniparty arseholes?”

    You can’t fuck all of the people all of the time.

  50. Rockdoctor Avatar
    Rockdoctor

    Last post as I have to get back to it. Dover, I live in Herbert not far from the boundary of Kennedy. KAP, ONP & Phat Phuc will probably capture a third of the vote between them. KAP has been quite visible in Townsville, of the minors I’d say they’ll be the top of that pile.

    Herbert, Kennedy won’t change hands. Dawson I’d say will stay LNP but the ALP has a quality candidate there with Hamilton from G&S Engineering Mackay.

    May drop in tonight again. During the count.

  51. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    HoR: I couldn’t bring myself to put the sitting member below Greenfilth

    Always put Greens last. Always. Sitting member second last, but Greens last.

  52. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Good to see Cat legend Fleeced back for the day.

  53. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    I have to say, the LNP’s sloganeering this time around has been particularly rubbish. ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’? You missed the part where you explain why. Stop insulting my intelligence.

    As for ‘there’s a hole in your costings dear Labor’ etc – really? Their platform looks to be about as artlessly costed as the LNP’s. And if you have to go back to the Howard era to spruik your bona fides as the most reliable steward of the nation’s finances, that is pretty piss poor.

    By the way, the teal running in my electorate is clearly giving heartburn whoever replaced Julie Bishop in my electorate. (I know her name but I just don’t care enough to mention it.) Her pamphlets explain all of the ways the coalition’s been nice to illegal immigrants, all of the good work they’ve done about the ‘climate crisis’ and the environment and so forth.

    Thank you for reminding me what a bunch of craven, principle-free weathervanes the Liberals are.

  54. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    More from the Archbishop of San Francisco:

    “Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion,” the Catechism of the Catholic Church says. “This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.”

    “A Catholic legislator who supports procured abortion, after knowing the teaching of the Church, commits a manifestly grave sin which is a cause of most serious scandal to others. Therefore, universal Church law provides that such persons ‘are not to be admitted to Holy Communion,’” Cordileone wrote in the letter to Pelosi.

    “After numerous attempts to speak with Speaker Pelosi to help her understand the grave evil she is perpetrating, the scandal she is causing, an the danger to her own soul she is risking, I have determined that she is not to be admitted to Holy Communion.” the Archbishop said.

  55. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    here’s hoping parties like LDP and PHON cause havoc in the senate.

    Campbell Newman #1 .
    Sure he’d be a back pocket LNP vote in the Senate,
    but he would put a bit of stick about on the TV.

  56. Perth Trader Avatar
    Perth Trader

    These people are MAD…In order to supposedly combat inflation, which has risen to a 30-year-high in New Zealand, Finance Minister Grant Robertson announced on Thursday that the Labour Party-controlled government would be issuing 350NZD in checks to some 2.1 million Kiwis in weekly payments over the next three months.

  57. JMH Avatar
    JMH

    Always put Greens last. Always. Sitting member second last, but Greens last.

    That’s been my modus operandi for decades, Fleeced.

  58. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    Mrs Diogenes was getting annoyed with me for taking so long with the senate paper, but it was worth it to put Amanda Soker dead last! mwahahahahah mwahahahahah mwahhhahahah

  59. JMH Avatar
    JMH

    Unfortunately, my sitting member was at the very top of the ballot, so will more than likely skate home because of the stupids.

  60. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    Electricity Bill was good. It made a point.

    ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’ – it rhymes so that must mean something, I guess…?

    I don’t care anymore. Am reconciled to the fact that washed up mediocrities run our country today and will do so for the foreseeable future.

  61. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Im down for a Lab landslide.

    10 seat majority.
    Basing it on 4,000,000 early votes from people lining up to kick scomo in the nads.

  62. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Cat Call for Election 22…

    Predicted result out of 151 seats up for grabs. (76 to win)

    Coalition to win:

    Winston Smith 84
    Knuckle Dragger 80
    Tom 80 LNP, 70 the rest (Liars-Filth). Simon’s leg-openers: ZERO.
    Top Ender 79 (ineligible for prize)
    Lizzie 78
    Eyrie 78
    Calli 77
    Rosie LNP by one; nothing for teals, 1 green 2 independents.
    Roger LNP to win 73 seats (ALP 72) & form government with support of independents
    Fair Shake Scomo as a minority government…after two weeks of recounts. He takes it by 2
    Chris Put me down for 3?????

    Delta A Hung parliament – 74 seats each – with Greens and One nation voting each way. Rebekha Sharkie (Centre Alliance) going with LNP.

    2dogs Hung parliament with about 65 each for the majors
    Armadillo hung Parliament with one teal holding the balance of power

    Labor to win:

    pete m Labor to win by 10 seats
    Rabz Labore at least 78 seats
    Cassie of Sydney two or three seats
    Leon L ALP + Greens + TEALS 90; LNP et al 61
    Sancho Labor – 76; LNP – 73; Greens – 1; Teal – 1; UAP – 0
    MatrixTransform Liars 67; Crossbench 13; LNP 71

  63. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    I’m not big on church doctrine but knowing Pelosi and her ilk the inability to receive communion would probably not be too much of an issue. More important would be what happens church wise when it comes time to bury the old witch.

  64. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    C.L.:

    Good to see Cat legend Fleeced back for the day.

    Thanks, CL. Turned up on the Cat’s doorstep last night, but dover left me in the cold until this morning. LOL.

    Oh come on:

    I have to say, the LNP’s sloganeering this time around has been particularly rubbish. ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’? You missed the part where you explain why. Stop insulting my intelligence.

    Yep. No three or four word slogans this time. They copped flak for using them in the past, but only because they worked. That’s what irritated media the most, I think.

    But what do the Libs even stand for now? \And warning people that things are going to get tough is bad strategy. People seem more inclined to vote Labor if they think they’ll be needing handouts.

  65. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    I did Campbell 1, Pauline 2, the number 2 on LDP ticket as 3, Pauline’s no 3 pick as 4 and the independent with the Hungarian name as #5 (why not, at least we have something in common 🙂 ), then worked my way through the rest of the pack and as I said put Stoket last behind the Socialist Alliance and the Greens

  66. dover0beach Avatar

    I have to say, the LNP’s sloganeering this time around has been particularly rubbish.

    Very bad stuff, indeed.

  67. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    These people are MAD…

    Quite. Otoh, their government debt to GDP ratio coming out of covid is positively respectable compared to Josh’s borrowings; what’s more, it’s predicted to peak at c. 20% in 24/25 and decline thereafter, while ours increases to c. 40% over the same period (& will probably increase further if Labor occupy the Treasury benches).

  68. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    But what do the Libs even stand for now?

    What Labor stood for three years ago.

  69. dover0beach Avatar

    Excellent news from San Fran.

  70. dover0beach Avatar

    What Labor stood for three years ago.

    The interval is always narrowing.

  71. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    The AFR View

    Labor set to win an election but not a mandate

    It would be an unusual win for Labor – with no grand policy ambitions or sweeping difference from the incumbent Coalition government.

    Saturday’s federal election is not quite settled. Polling has tightened, with the primary votes for Coalition and Labor neck and neck on 35 per cent and 36 per cent respectively in The Australian Financial Review-Ipsos poll on Friday. Both primary votes are weak, a continuing trend.

    Both parties need the large numbers of undecided voters, plus a cascade of preferences from the big field of independents and minor parties, to break their way on Saturday.

    The two-party preferred prediction – though based on past preferences – says that’s most likely to be Labor, putting Anthony Albanese in The Lodge in his own right.

    It would be an unusual win for Labor. Unlike the last three Labor prime ministers to take power from opposition – Gough Whitlam, Bob Hawke and Kevin Rudd – Mr Albanese seeks to do so in 2022 with no grand policy ambitions or sweeping difference from the incumbent Coalition government.

    With lower sights, Mr Albanese may at least not have as far to fall as did two of his predecessors. Yet a trillion dollars of gross debt demands the opposite of what he is offering: a budget deficit reduction strategy.

    Even if Mr Albanese had one, it would be made harder by the global inflation spike produced by the pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine that is driving global interest rates higher.

    Labor’s main idea in response is to carry on spending on caring services – childcare, aged care and disability care – which have lifted in voter consciousness after the rigours of the pandemic made protective big government popular.

    Australia’s insular political debate hasn’t noticed the more intense cost-of-living crunches in the US, the UK and Canada under governments on both the left and the right.

    Labor in Australia is unlikely to have much better ideas than Jacinda Ardern’s Labour government in New Zealand, where inflation has jumped to 6.9 per cent, higher than the 5.1 per cent in Australia. Real wages are falling faster in Labour-Greens ruled New Zealand.

    Bank of England governor Andrew Bailey last week warned he was “helpless” in the face of “apocalyptic” global food prices. The Americans are rushing in supplies of baby formula from Switzerland in the face of domestic shortages. This isn’t all Scott Morrison’s fault, you know.

    Raised in the Socialist Left faction of Labor, Mr Albanese has shown little engagement with the Hawke-Keating policy reform model which began decades of aspirational prosperity.

    If elected prime minister, he also will have to balance the generational challenge of decarbonising Australia with the realities of a global fossil fuel crisis that is about to push up the cost of living here.

    A green transition must feed in renewables while managing out the declining, but critical, base of fossil fuels – Europe has shown what happens when that goes wrong.

    Getting that balance right in Australia will be more challenging if today’s vote delivers a hung parliament which ends with Labor forced to accommodate the Greens, or the teal independents.

    A Labor minority government?

    That second possibility also would confirm that the old broad-church parties across the Western world are shaking apart.

    Blue-green hybrid teal independents threaten to peel away once-solid Liberal city seats full of comfortably-off voters now preoccupied by vibe issues of urgent (rather than effective) climate action, “integrity” and the needed catch-up on gender progress.

    They are a reaction to the working-class discontent in regional electorates which helped produce Mr Morrison’s miracle win in 2019.

    And the all-female teals, some even the daughters of Liberal blue bloods, also personify Mr Morrison’s problems with women voters in this election, even amid a 3.7 per cent female jobless rate.

    A Labor minority government supported by teals in former blue-ribbon Liberal seats should provoke a major rethink of what and who the Liberal Party should stand for in the 2020s.

    Or another Morrison miracle?

    The third possibility is that the relentless Mr Morrison once again threads the electoral needle seat by marginal seat, as he did in 2019.

    While it would be a personal triumph, he would be left with all the challenges of the budget, climate and China, but with his party fracturing between left and right.

    This apparently least likely result – but the one favoured by the Financial Review – would still leave a Coalition-led government needing to correct the course of Australian politics back to the challenges the nation has shied away from recognising during this no-mandate election campaign.

  72. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Excellent news from San Fran.

    My only question is why did it take so long?

  73. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    Fleeced, Morrison deserves the bullet for not doing a thing to rein in the psychotic state premiers during their lockdown and mass vaxx tyrannies. Instead, he did what he could to assist and otherwise stay out of their way. Fuck him. I’m a single issue voter on this. I want to punish the Libs far more than I want to prevent the ALP from forming government.

  74. CrazyOldRanga Avatar
    CrazyOldRanga

    UAP top of the ballot in The Tudgers electorate. It’ll be interesting to see how she goes. Avi interviewed her last week and asked about preferencing LNP second. She responded by suggestingn that UAP supporters were free to make their own minds up. I hope she makes a good showing, but Tudger is a lay down misere me thinks. 🙁

  75. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    20 or 30 seats still up for grabs: Shorten.

    Former Labor leader Bill Shorten says he is “cautiously optimistic” early on polling day, but adds this election is highly unusual and many seats could change hands.

    “I’m cautiously optimistic, getting a good vibe on the polling booth,” Shorten tells Channel Nine from his electorate in Moonee Ponds.

    “It’s an unusual election in that there are 20 or 25 seats which could go one way or the other. So it’s not just a couple of seats.”

    Shorten addressed what sauce to have on the sausage sandwich, and the awkward way he ate his “democracy sausage” in 2016, which helped put the term on the map.

    For the record, Shorten favours tomato, the same as Scott Morrison. Anthony Albanese opts for barbecue.

  76. Angus Black Avatar
    Angus Black

    Never lived in anything approaching a swinging electorate, so the lower house is always a rather boring affair.

    I have my fun in the Senate.

    Here in Tasmania we have not only The Greens (by the eTruck load) but any number of greenies slyly pretending to be some “one issue” activist or another…but you know that if, heaven forbid, they found themselves on the red benches, they’d be indistinguishable from Greens (but even noisier).

    While, deep down, I know that my vote will never trickle down far enough for it to matter, I at least have the pleasure of 20 minutes or so spent trying to select the most egregious to prop up the rest of my choices.

    Sorry for my impact on the queue, by the way.

  77. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    If Lib’s Tim Wilson and/or ALP’s Kristina Keneally lose their seats, I hope we don’t have to see there ugly mugs pop up on Sky.

  78. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    From “The Age.”

    Lies and lexicon: clear and present memories in Ben Roberts-Smith case
    Harriet Alexander
    By Harriet Alexander
    May 21, 2022 — 5.00am

    In a trial that has been shot through with military jargon and acronyms too numerous to recall, the arrival of the word “liminal” into the lexicon of the court was certainly memorable.

    Person 38, the eighth witness to be called by war veteran Ben Roberts-Smith in his defamation action against Nine newspapers, identified a “liminal memory” as the type that stands out. He first used it in association with the detonators that Roberts-Smith was carrying when he first saw him at a village compound known as Whiskey 108, which he remembered because they were valuable to the Taliban. He later used it to explain why he remembered the route that he took between village compounds.

    “[We] cleared so many compounds, we had so many contacts, that a lot of what you’re asking is not memorable,” he expounded to the newspapers’ barrister, Nicholas Owens, SC, when asked to describe what he meant by the term.

    “A memorable event is someone showing a lack of courage or me thinking when we got to the aqueduct, ‘Am I going to get my explosive device wet moving through the aqueduct?’

    “Finding a tunnel was a clear memory. If I’m correct in my definition of ‘liminal’ they’re important [memories]… They’re different. They’re not just another day in the office.”

    The word “liminal” is more commonly used to refer to the ambiguous, transitional phase between two states of being, but Person 38’s differentiation between memory types is pertinent. The soldiers giving evidence have been asked to pull recollections from the blur of dozens of operations more than a decade ago. Which makes it all the more bizarre that the two groups of soldiers can be so certain about entirely different versions of events.

    Take the alleged murder of two Afghan prisoners at Whiskey 108, which moved to the fore again in the twelfth week of this trial. One fact is uncontroversial. On April 12, 2009, Australian soldiers unearthed a tunnel in the courtyard of a village compound known as Whiskey 108 in southern Afghanistan.

    The group that gave evidence about Whiskey 108 for the newspapers – five soldiers in total – are clear that one or more Afghans emerged from the tunnel. Three of those soldiers said they witnessed Roberts-Smith or another soldier shoot them dead while they were in the custody of Australian troops, which is considered murder under the rules of engagement.

    But some witnesses for Roberts-Smith, who were also present when the tunnel was identified, are equally adamant that there was nobody in the tunnel and the only Afghans killed were enemy combatants outside the compound. And they go further than being unable to remember whether any fighting-age males were detained: they have a positive recollection that no such prisoners existed.

    Owens, for the newspapers, says the only logical explanation for the discrepancy between the two accounts of what happened at Whiskey 108 is that one group of soldiers is lying. And if that is the case, it follows that they are doing so in collusion.

    Several of Roberts-Smith’s witnesses have denied under cross-examination that they discussed their stories before coming to court. One soldier, Person 29, was sent a marked-up image of Whiskey 108 by Roberts-Smith nine days before he submitted his outline of evidence to the court. Owens asked: “I want to put to you again, when you had a conversation with Mr Roberts-Smith about this document, it was for the purpose of aligning your stories about Whiskey 108 in key respects, do you agree?” Person 29 did not agree.

    The soldier, Person 38, was a softly spoken friend of Roberts-Smith, and the only one of his non-commissioned military witnesses to date who has not been questioned as part of the Inspector-General’s investigation into suspected war crimes. He was discharged from the Special Air Services in 2017 because, he said, the birth of his first child had prompted him to reassess his priorities in life.

    He said none of the newspapers’ witnesses were present in the courtyard when the tunnel was discovered and raised for the first time in court a version of events in which he was clearing an orchard with one of those witnesses a short time later when an execution was alleged to have taken place. That witness, Person 41, told the court in February that he saw Roberts-Smith “frog-marching” one of the men pulled from the tunnel outside the compound, throwing him to the ground and shooting him in the back.

    But Person 38 said he had a liminal memory of clearing the orchard with Person 41, because he had initially asked Person 40 – another of the media witnesses – to help him, and Person 40 had declined due to “cowardice”.

    Owens challenged the assertion that none of the newspaper witnesses were present when the tunnel was discovered, suggesting that Person 38 had fabricated his evidence to place only Robert-Smith’s closest friends on the scene at the crucial moment. Person 38 denied this was so.

    Owens: “The entire account of clearing an orchard with Person 41 is nothing more than an attempt to remove an important witness from a position where he was able to observe what happened at Whiskey 108, correct?”

    Person 38: “Incorrect.”

    Owens: “And I want to put to you that it’s an example of having what you call liminal memories that only assist Mr Roberts-Smith, correct?”

    Person 38: “That is incorrect.”

    The other vein of Person 38’s story, that Person 40’s conduct was memorable for its cowardice, is emerging as a theme among Roberts-Smith’s military witnesses. Some of the witnesses who gave evidence against Roberts-Smith have been described as “poor” and “below standard”, offering an interesting glimpse into the dynamic within the Special Air Services.

    Roberts-Smith is alleged to have threatened to put a bullet in the back of the head of a soldier who has admitted to making a mistake in battle. A soldier, Person 36, did not initially accept when questioned about that comment on Thursday that it was unacceptable to make a death threat against another soldier.

    “To be honest, early in my training career there were things said in debriefs that I could perceive to be death threats,” Person 36 said. “So I guess it depends on the individual and how they perceive that feedback.”

    Person 38 agreed under cross-examination that a lack of courage was the most insulting thing that could be said about an SAS soldier. “It doesn’t change the fact though,” he said.

  79. Angus Black Avatar
    Angus Black

    Anthony Albanese opts for barbecue

    Enough, on its own, to disqualify him, I’d have thought.

  80. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    Top Ender says:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:13 am
    Cat Call for Election 22…

    Call me chicken – but this is hard to call, since both major Parties have offended so many voters in the last two years.

    What I WANT, and WHAT I HOPE I VOTED FOR is:

    UAP & One Nation holding the balance of power

  81. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Fuck him. I’m a single issue voter on this. I want to punish the Libs far more than I want to prevent the ALP from forming government.

    I hear this a lot. Sadly, if/when they lose, they’ll conclude they didn’t move far enough left. Because they always do.

  82. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Catherine Glenn Foster owns a demorat politician on abortion. Conservative ladies are the best:

    https://twitter.com/laurenboebert/status/1527620223775408134?cxt=HBwWjICw3f6fmbMqAAAA&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email

  83. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    My only question is why did it take so long?

    Indeed.
    Something is afoot, though, judging from the array of bishops issuing strong statements of support for the Archbishop.

    Even the local bishop where Pelosi has a holiday home says she will have nowhere to hide:

    Bishop Robert Vasa of Santa Rosa:

    I have visited with the pastor at [Pelosi’s vacation parish] and informed him that if the Archbishop prohibited someone from receiving Holy Communion then that restriction followed the person and that the pastor was not free to ignore it.

  84. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    Just dropped a lazy 20 at Sportsbet on the coalition @ 3.70. Just because I can.

    Whatever happens, as long as that faux yank imbecile KK gets the arse I’ll be happy.

  85. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Sadly, if/when they lose, they’ll conclude they didn’t move far enough left. Because they always do.

    Yep.

    We all know that’s EXACTLY how a Morrison loss will be spun.
    Deves, particularly, will be excoriated.

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Daily Mail. “Merry Christmas, Ivan.”

    The White Death sniper who killed 22 Russians on Christmas Day: Inspired by past wartime heroics against the Red Army’s invaders, Finland’s citizens are busy buying rifles and are preparing to give Vladimir Putin a chilling history lesson

    Finnish sniper Simo Hayha is said to have sniped 500 Red Army troops in a year
    Shrouded in white, the 5’2 marksman became on the most prolific in history
    Now, Finns are inspired by the notoriety of the White Death as tensions rise
    A gun shop owner said children are starting weapons lessons – at just seven

  87. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    Oh come on says:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:23 am
    Fleeced, Morrison deserves the bullet for not doing a thing to rein in the psychotic state premiers during their lockdown and mass vaxx tyrannies. Instead, he did what he could to assist and otherwise stay out of their way. Fuck him. I’m a single issue voter on this. I want to punish the Libs far more than I want to prevent the ALP from forming government.

    That’s it!!!! Our sentiments exactly.

  88. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Reading elsewhere that the “natives” are restless in remote communities in the NT because of rising food prices due to the cost of trucking stuff in .. bit baffling tho.. would have thought buying yer tucka has gotta be “cultural appropriation”, shirley, when ya just goes walkabout and catch it .. LOL!

  89. dover0beach Avatar

    Indeed.
    Something is afoot, though, judging from the array of bishops issuing strong statements of support for the Archbishop.

    I would say charity has made it take so long, but maybe the Dobbs decision, if it pans out, has freed their hand somewhat. I don’t know why exactly but maybe a hit on Roe makes abortion a contentious position among elite opinion and therefore it’s open season.

  90. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Is any Cat able to post The Oz Article by Steve Waterson?

    We cannot let politicians off the hook for this disgrace

    The only way we could compound the disaster we’ve suffered at the hands of our worthless politicians and bureaucrats would be a failure to hold those responsible to account.

    By STEVE WATERSON

  91. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Whatever happens, as long as that faux yank imbecile KK gets the arse I’ll be happy.

    She won’t .. Living in Fowler I can assure you most folk don’t vote for a person but for party, regardless .. Fowler is rusted-on Labor .. myself, I went UAP …….!

  92. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Deves, particularly, will be excoriated.

    Even if she wins but Libs lose, that’s how they’ll spin it.

    Meanwhile, Tim Wilson, who issued a children’s colouring book of him and his “husband” walking their gay dog, could lose his seat and it will be because… the Libs still weren’t far enough Left.

    We really need third party conservatives to hold the balance in the senate. Though if that happens, Libs will just spend all of their time undermining them because they think they’re entitled to their seats. They prefer courting the Greens.

    Anyway, I’m off to vote. This might take a while.

  93. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    anyone detecting a Gough “It’s Time” mood? I am not.

    Albo is not The Great Man’s bootlace. Wog bastard.

  94. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Even the local bishop where Pelosi has a holiday home says she will have nowhere to hide:

    I was wondering if other bishops would be on board because I’ve previously read that this type of response divides the American bishops. Will be interesting to see what happens in Washington DC, where the archbishop has previously ruled out denying communion to Joe Biden.

  95. Franx Avatar
    Franx

    Frank, Pelosi can make a good confession on her death bed. A fine send off, then. And a warm welcome.

  96. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    For Old Ozzie:

    Election 2022: Whoever wins, let’s hold our politicians to account

    STEVE WATERSON
    But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
    — George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
    It’s a testament to human resilience that we can push traumatic memories out of our minds and eventually carry on with life; it’s how we recover from the tragedies that can strike at any moment.

    And oh my, how the wretched politicians who orchestrated the carnage of our pandemic response must be hoping that mechanism will kick in soon; but to protect them, rather than their subjects.
    Judging by the silence about the coronavirus during the election campaign, you might wonder if the past two years actually happened. (You may similarly wonder if there has been proper debate about the economy, defence, foreign policy, education, productivity, health or aged care, but perhaps I haven’t been paying close enough attention.)
    Yes, the most extraordinary, most ridiculous, most expensive peacetime catastrophe in this nation’s history passed unremarked upon. And this when Covid cases are soaring way beyond the numbers that saw us terrified and confined to our cages less than 12 months ago.
    It’s churlish, but irresistible, to note that the surge is occurring primarily in Western Australia, whose fantastically arrogant premier lectured the rest of the country on the perfection of his quest for zero Covid. Perhaps he should seek advice now from China, which is helping his fellow hermit kingdom of North Korea as the virus sweeps through its benighted population.
    If we allow ourselves to forget the horror, whoever wins this weekend will gladly sweep it all under the carpet, into the forgettery, as a former prime minister, now rarely seen, once put it.
    So let’s pause briefly to remember social distancing, closed borders (I thought they’d reopened, but on Thursday some bloke on the telly said they hadn’t), daily updates by funereal-faced health mandarins, “the science” (where have we heard that before?), sycophantic media, contact tracing, density limits (other than on politicians’ intellect), taped-off parks, golf courses and beaches, police firing on and beating the people we naively thought they were paid to protect, and the monstrous overreach of idiotic, brutal lockdowns and the byzantine rules and regulations by which they operated.

    Anti-lockdown protesters are confronted by riot police at the Shrine of Remembrance In Melbourne on September 22, 2021.
    Other things, such as masks, remain mandatory on public transport and similar areas under state control, poignant reminders of the madness, like the fading arrows that now only whisper where you should stand or sit; and while we’ve known for some time that the virus isn’t transmitted through surface contact, even by the deadly vectors of pizza boxes and Sherrin footballs, timorous masked shoppers still scuttle about our supermarkets, polish their trolley handles with antiseptic wipes, hold their trembling hands beneath the holy-water gel dispensers and rub them together like Dick Dastardly plotting another wicked scheme. Elsewhere, the memories are fainter. We all know people who joke now about catching Covid but just months ago were cheering our vicious rules and gorging on the delicious taste of fear that made them feel so edgy and alive. Things are getting back to normal for them, and that’s another tragedy in the making. Here’s why.
    The only way we could compound the disaster we’ve suffered at the hands of our worthless politicians and bureaucrats, the state-sponsored oppression that hid their woeful incompetence, would be a failure to hold those responsible to account. We had opportunities while the damage was being done to challenge it, but we wasted them. The media must shoulder much of the blame, attending press conferences to parrot and amplify the already exaggerated and incontinent fearmongering.
    What misery might our journalists have averted had they spent a fragment of their time researching the facts, questioning authority and informing their audience – you know, doing their jobs?
    Instead they, we, were complicit in normalising the excessive response to what some of us then suspected – and most of us now know – was a disease nowhere near deadly enough to justify the panic. The tiny figures for excess deaths recently released by the World Health Organisation make that case very eloquently.

    Thousands take part in the Millions March in February. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Gary Ramage
    The only brilliance shown in the whole fiasco was how the authorities were able to make it socially unacceptable to question the wisdom of their palpably stupid mismanagement.
    Dissenters were vilified; all over the world eminent epidemiologists who questioned the orthodoxy were ridiculed and silenced; anyone who expressed concern at our near-compulsory vaccination pro­­gram was made to feel as though they were cheerleaders for polio and Ebola.
    Governments promoted the credo that if you didn’t embrace even their most absurd restrictions you were irresponsible: if you’re not lounging uselessly at home you’re out spreading.
    The virulence of Covid, though, was thankfully nowhere near as severe as we were told to expect, by which I mean the direct medical impact of a Covid infection. The real, lasting damage done by Covid, or, more accurately, by our reaction to it, is only now beginning to emerge.
    We have learned this week, for example, that the predictable damage done to our children by the two-year gap in their schooling is quantifiable – and utterly devastating. Research here and in other Western countries indicate markedly higher levels of disengagement and despair over their education, of self-harm, of attempted and completed suicide.
    Oncologists in Britain warn of a cancer crisis that will produce a death toll several times that of Covid, and it won’t be restricted to the elderly. Martin Kulldorff, until last year a professor of medicine at Harvard, said this month that lockdowns won’t influence short-term prognoses but will cause, for example, “those who would have lived 15 to 20 years to die from cervical cancer three or four years from now”.
    Further afield, the World Bank says 100 million people in the developing world have been thrown into poverty through lockdowns, which were manageable for those who could work from home. The UN has estimated a quarter of a million children have starved to death in South Asia alone.
    So how do we avoid a repeat of this man-made destruction next time a pandemic or other crisis comes to town? First, let’s find out what went wrong, why the poor decisions were made, who were responsible for them, and what they should have done. Let politicians and bureaucrats explain every incremental step in their shameful assault on our liberty.
    In Australia we regularly hear cries for a royal commission into all manner of egregious behaviour, but they are established only in “rare and exceptional circumstances” to examine matters relating to federal responsibilities. Has there been anything in our peacetime history that better meets these criteria? We weren’t allowed a say in what restrictions were imposed on us when this pandemic arose, so let’s open the discussion before the next one.
    I’d like to know, for a start, why we abandoned the long-established principle of focused protection, a feature of pre-Covid pandemic plans that would have identified and directed protective measures towards the vulnerable: in the present case the very old, the infirm, those with comorbidities such as diabetes and obesity.
    I’m sure many would ask why our elected leaders delegated their responsibility to unelected bureaucrats, or why the federal government outsourced much of its decision-making to the simpletons of state politics.
    Some must be curious about the health advice that supposedly guided the raft of crazy rules that told you how many people could be on Bondi Beach, or why the virus couldn’t travel below head height in bars. Call me cynical, but I don’t believe any such advice existed, although I’d be delighted to be proved wrong by the production of a sheaf of convincing, carefully argued documents.
    Then lockdown, the quintessential blunt instrument. A sensible person would think carefully before closing down the pig-based barter economy of a village in the highlands of Papua New Guinea, but we, panicked by the scenes in China, switched off our advanced Western economy apparently without performing the most rudimentary cost-benefit analysis or anticipating the catastrophic consequences.
    But no, easier to borrow and blow half a trillion dollars, then boast about the world-beating magnificence of our handling of the crisis. It’s deeply depressing to think what might have been bought with that money – the dams, the rail lines, energy security, the hospitals, the submarines, the friendship of our Pacific neighbours – and no surprise that the mainstream politicians who created or tolerated this waste are held in such low esteem: how diminished must you be to drive people to squander their votes on the cretins of One Nation, the halfwits of the United Australia Party, or the insufferably smug marionettes of the teal co-dependents?
    Of course the likelihood of a serious public inquiry into our Covid response is remote; but we can dream and, for so long as it’s permitted, keep agitating for one.
    If not, we might as well join Winston Smith in kowtowing to a system that is already hard at work rewriting history.
    STEVE WATERSON

  97. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    Shit, if you’re right shatterzzz, I better get on the drink early today to dull the pain!

  98. Anchor What Avatar
    Anchor What

    Simon Kennedy (Bennelong) being given a hard time by Daytime Sky – they’re trying to make out he’s some sort of bad guy for having doubts about vaccine mandates!

  99. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Conservative ladies are the best

    Thank you, kind sir.

  100. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Vickisays:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:47 am
    For Old Ozzie:

    Election 2022: Whoever wins, let’s hold our politicians to account

    Thanks Vicki – Greatly Appreciated

    Summed up

    Yes, the most extraordinary, most ridiculous, most expensive peacetime catastrophe in this nation’s history passed unremarked upon. And this when Covid cases are soaring way beyond the numbers that saw us terrified and confined to our cages less than 12 months ago.

  101. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Just went to a Pilates class, walked home, bought newspaper, Paddo and Woollahra are awash with teal and pictures of Princess Allegra, it’s a cult, corflutes everywhere emboldened with the words “A better climate for Wentworth” I gotta laugh, yes, yes, the residents of Wentworth will continue the grift, making lotsa dosh from renewables and laughing out loud at the less fortunate residents of Sydney’s great unwashed because here’s the truth, it won’t be a better climate for the residents of Penrith or Mt Druitt or Blacktown or St Marys or Campbelltown or any other less well off part of Sydney.

    The colour teal is making me feel physically sick. I put on a jumper this morning before I left for my Pilates class as it’s chilly here in Sydney and then I realised it was teal coloured. I quickly changed.

    And Sleazy said this morning that he doesn’t rule out forming government with the help of an independent. Imagine this scenario, if Princess Allegra wins here in Wentworth, a hard left PM and Labor government might govern with the help of the member for Wentworth, I think Billy Wentworth will roll over in his grave.

  102. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Dover, I suspect the clincher was Pelosi repeatedly lying about da quickening, Aquinas etc.
    The Archbishop’s statement makes it clear that this constitutes egregious lying and extremely grave scandal.

    But that is exactly the same bullshit that ‘Catholic’ Biden voiced as recently as a fortnight ago.

  103. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    New Study Finds mRNA Vaccines Actually Hurt Long-Term Immunity to Covid Compared to the Unvaccinated

    Very interesting if confirmed.

    Meanwhile, on ABC RN this AM, an economist was saying we should all be getting boosters and wearing masks to eliminate covid. Because that’s what the epidemiologists say…

  104. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Mail-order spiders.

    An exploration of global patterns of trade in arachnids reveals 1,264 species from 66 families (Phys.org, 20 May)

    A small team of researchers with members from Thailand, Finland and China, has found that there is a very large and active trade in arachnids across the internet. In their paper published in the journal Communications Biology, the group describes their study of arachnid trade via the internet and possible repercussions of so many of the creatures being traded across the world.

    To learn more about the global trade of arachnids, the researchers went straight to the source: online listings. In so doing, they found approximately 1,264 species for sale or trade. They suggest that far more are for sale than they found because they did not also track sales on social media sites. The researchers noted that the majority of the species they found for sale were not recognized as being traded by any governing or regulatory body—thus all such sales were perfectly legal. They also found what appeared to be a greater reward for sellers who have spiders with more colorful attributes—features which generally indicate that they are rare. They also note that most of those specimens they saw belong to species that are known to have long lifespans, with is another factor that can put a species at risk.

    There you go: there’re apparently thousands of spider collectors who buy spiders on the internet. And they especially like long-lived colourful ones.

    So if a lady invites you back to her house to show you her spider collection she may really have a spider collection.

  105. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Teal really is a sickening colour.

  106. dover0beach Avatar

    We all know that’s EXACTLY how a Morrison loss will be spun.
    Deves, particularly, will be excoriated.

    This is why you need to weatherproof these candidates wherever they are situated.

  107. m0nty Avatar

    Teal really is a sickening colour.

    It’s the colour of the sky. Geez.

  108. Woolfe Avatar
    Woolfe

    Dover,
    As a paying contributor to Da Kat can you please place Fleece back in moderation.

    Thanks

  109. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Shit, if you’re right shatterzzz, I better get on the drink early today to dull the pain!

    I put $50 on a Fowler/Labor win @ $1.50 ..
    figured I might as well get something back for having to vote here .. LOL!

  110. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Darn it…you’ll have to load up to pic #9; I think it’s worth it.

  111. dover0beach Avatar

    C.L., take it as read that whoever raises ‘da quickening, Aquinas etc.’ that a liberal Catholic has been feeding them talking points. It is either that canard or ‘achually, Jesus says nothing against abortion’. It’s brazen sophistry.

  112. Gravitas Avatar
    Gravitas

    I can’t comment. It all seems to end up in moderation and rejected?

  113. local oaf Avatar
    local oaf

    Roger says:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:58 am

    Darn it…you’ll have to load up to pic #9; I think it’s worth it.

    Pic 9 was an eye opener for sure. Need a trigger warning for pic 11. 🙂

  114. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    You missed my guess, TopEnder, on the old thread last night.

    LNP chancers, morons and grifters B team to fall over the line by one from the LAB chancers, morons and grifters A team.

  115. P Avatar
    P

    Archbishop Cordileone Tells Priests That Nancy Pelosi Communion Denial Is ‘Pastoral, Not Political’
    The archbishop explained to his priests that since September 2021, he has made several attempts to have a dialogue with Pelosi about her support for legal abortion.

    His notification added that she may be admitted to Communion after having publicly repudiated her advocacy for the legitimacy of abortion and having received absolution.

    Archbishop Cordileone pointed out that the law he is applying in this situation, Canon 915, is found in the book of canon law that deals with the Church’s sanctifying office, rather than in “Book VI, which is the Church’s legislation on penal law.”

    “Thus, this is not a sanction, or a penalty, but rather a declaration of fact: the Speaker is ‘obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin’ (canon 915). A sanction, on the other hand, such as excommunication, has its own particular process and reasons for being applied. This is quite distinct from the application of canon 915,” he explained.

  116. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Pic 9 was an eye opener for sure. Need a trigger warning for pic 11.

    He’s certainly looking as though he’s enjoying himself though.

  117. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    dover0beachsays:

    May 21, 2022 at 10:41 am

    Can anyone guess what high ONP and UAP vote does in Qld, NSW and Vic in both Houses.

    I suspect the aggregate UAP/ONP vote won’t be much higher than 2019.

  118. areff Avatar
    areff

    ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’ is a tacit acknowledgement that the neowogboy is going to win.

    SFLs, irredeemably dim from arsehole to breakfast

  119. dover0beach Avatar

    Pro-Russian Guy 5% (Z) ??
    @thrussophile2
    ·
    7h
    Azovstal reported fully cleared. Total POWs 2,439.

    Hmm, given the previous surrenders over the last month or so, the reports that only 3-5K UAF defended Mariupol are clearly an underestimate. More likely somewhere between 10-20K.

  120. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Labor to win:
    ….
    MatrixTransform Liars 67; Crossbench 13; LNP 71

    How do you get “Labor win” out of that?
    Unless you are guessing the crossbench will fall at least 9-4 to Labor.

  121. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Darn it…you’ll have to load up to pic #9; I think it’s worth it.

    It was, Roger.
    Bookmarked for later reference.

    Here it is.

    Caption: A woman searches for nails and other metal scraps from remains of burned houses that were gutted during a fire at a poor bayside village in the district of Tondo, Manila, Philippines.

    That’s what poor, grim and gutsy look like, Albo. Spare us your houso whining.

  122. Kev Avatar
    Kev

    Teal
    It’s the colour of the sky. Geez.
    No, that would be azure blue.

  123. Helen Davidson (nmrn) Avatar
    Helen Davidson (nmrn)

    Shit, if you’re right shatterzzz, I better get on the drink early today to dull the pain!

    Whichever way it goes, I’ve got the bubbles on ice…

    IN VICTORY, YOU DESERVE CHAMPAGNE; IN DEFEAT, YOU NEED IT.” — NAPOLEON BONAPARTE

  124. Makka Avatar
    Makka

    “After numerous attempts to speak with Speaker Pelosi to help her understand the grave evil she is perpetrating, the scandal she is causing, an the danger to her own soul she is risking, I have determined that she is not to be admitted to Holy Communion.” the Archbishop said.

    Bravo , that man!

  125. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’ is a tacit acknowledgement that the neowogboy is going to win.

    Singo could have written better slogans and jingles in ten minutes.

  126. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    It’s a frightening thought that the ship waiters kid could be in charge of our country by the end of the day.

  127. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    Teal really is a sickening colour.
    It’s the colour of the sky. Geez.

    Can’t even get that right, monty. The sky is azure ( blue in case that’s too hard) and cyan (which is a greenish blue). You cannot get teal which is cyan and green.

    If you want something more scientific check out Rayleigh scattering which is how the sun’s light interacts with molecules in the atmosphere. All the major constituent molecules in our atmosphere (oxygen, hydrogen, CO2 et al) shift that light towards blue. You would need to cool the sun down significantly to move light which peaks in the blue-violet end of the spectrum down to the yellow-green required to give us a teal sky.

    We should hope and pray it doesn’t happen soon.

  128. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Tomsays:

    May 21, 2022 at 10:49 am

    here’s hoping parties like LDP and PHON cause havoc in the senate.

    I voted for David Limbrick (LDP)

    #metoo.
    Senate
    I basically used the LDP Senate HTV as a guide although I juggled some of their 2 – 6 preferences (Fat Cloive’s candidates got pushed down).
    Lower house.
    LDP first.
    In no particular order, PHON and three genuine conservative indies next.
    UAP after that.
    Starting from the bottom for the rest …
    Green Last.
    Teal second last.
    ALP third last.
    Lib fourth last.
    I hope Faulty approves.

  129. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    Snap, Kev!

  130. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’ is a tacit acknowledgement that the neowogboy is going to win.

    Exactly.
    Really strange messaging.
    But not quite as annoying as “hole in the budget”.

  131. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    m0ntysays:

    May 21, 2022 at 11:57 am

    Teal really is a sickening colour.

    It’s the colour of the sky. Geez.

    Not on planet Earth, fatso.

  132. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Greg Dribbler Sheridan has actually written quite a good piece in today’s Oz titled “Leaders must return to the heartland, true believers are waiting”…here’s a snippet (it isn’t the full piece)..

    “The Liberals are losing social conservatives to Hanson and UAP and losing inner-city affluent progressives to the teals. Their panic over potential teal losses is leading them into destructive decisions. The Victorian Liberal Party is the most spectacularly unsuccessful political outfit in Australia. Generally, it wouldn’t make an impression on a soft pillow. The parliamentary party, almost entirely unknown to anyone not in Parliament House, is planning next Tuesday to expel its only MP from the western suburbs, Bernie Finn. This is allegedly because he is ill-disciplined. Yet the proximate cause is obvious – he is unfashionably pro-life and anti-abortion.

    No one would expect the Liberal Party to adopt pro-life policies. But to expel Finn would demonstrate panic, lack of worthwhile political identity and a failure of confidence in Liberal Party internal democracy. If Finn is no good, why not just run someone better against him in a preselection? But here is the irony. He is the only Liberal who gets any support in Melbourne’s western suburbs and he is highly socially conservative.

    Finn’s pro-life views are exactly the same as those of Jacob Rees-Mogg, who is a senior minister in Johnson’s Conservative government. They are identical views to many Republican Party politicians in the US. The Victorian Liberals are not socially conservative. But if they actively drive out social conservatives from their party they will force the creation of minor parties on the right. Such action looks simultaneously terrified and cowardly in the face of the teal threat, authoritarian in terms of MPs’ free speech and effectively putting an end to the idea of the Liberal Party as a “broad church”. At the same time, the Liberals’ most dedicatedly woke member, NSW Treasurer Matt Kean, was able to denigrate and call for the defeat of the endorsed Liberal candidate in Warringah, Katherine Deves, without a peep of expulsion talk for him.

    Martyn Iles, the leader of the Australian Christian Lobby, thinks the Liberals are missing potential big gains in western Sydney, southeastern Melbourne, western Melbourne and other parts of Australia: “Socially conservative migrant Christians are a huge conservative goldmine. There are votes there for the taking in huge numbers for the Liberals. But only if they operate in their traditional conservative lane. If not, they confuse these voters. The way they’re going, the Liberals are losing social conservatives and progressives.””

    Yep. As for the Victorian Liberals, words fail me…..and believe me, that’s unusual.

  133. dover0beach Avatar

    Speaking of which, I find this pic very poignant (hoping the link works):

    C.L., one for series on the lives of contemporary western women, I’m sure.

  134. Petros Avatar
    Petros

    The scientific name for the Eurasian teal is Anas crecca.

  135. dover0beach Avatar

    No one would expect the Liberal Party to adopt pro-life policies.

    This is the state of the centre-right.

  136. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    m0ntysays:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:57 am
    Teal really is a sickening colour.

    It’s the colour of the sky. Geez.

    You need to take a colour-blindness test.

  137. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    The parliamentary party, almost entirely unknown to anyone not in Parliament House, is planning next Tuesday to expel its only MP from the western suburbs, Bernie Finn. This is allegedly because he is ill-disciplined. Yet the proximate cause is obvious – he is unfashionably pro-life and anti-abortion.

    Areff’s brilliant piece on the Finn lynching and VicShitLibs here if you missed it.

  138. m0nty Avatar

    Can’t even get that right, monty. The sky is azure ( blue in case that’s too hard) and cyan (which is a greenish blue). You cannot get teal which is cyan and green.

    Many of the “teals” have actually been using aqua as their background.

    I live in the western suburbs of Melbourne, our sky gets all sorts of crazy colours.

  139. Makka Avatar
    Makka

    I live in the western suburbs of Melbourne

    Explains a lot…

  140. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    ROFLMAO!

    Even on the colour of the sky, munty continues his unbroken record of wrongology!

  141. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    How FBI bigwig aided and abetted Hillary Clinton plot

    By Post Editorial Board

    Who needs to spend millions on television commercials or Facebook ads if you’ve got friends in the FBI who can pull off a political dirty trick for you?

    Just look how cozy Hillary Clinton lawyer Michael Sussmann and FBI general counsel James A. Baker are in text messages revealed in Thursday’s testimony at Sussmann’s trial.

    Can you meet tomorrow, Sussmann asks the high-ranking government official.

    “OK, I will find a time,” Baker answers.

    Does he need help getting into the building?

    No, Sussmann answers, I have a badge to get into the Federal Bureau of Investigation. How convenient.

    It was during this meeting that Sussmann peddled the false story that Donald Trump was secretly communicating with a Russian bank.

    Sussmann obviously is guilty of the crime of which special counsel John Durham accuses him, lying to the FBI, despite his claims otherwise. He specifically says to Baker that he’s not coming in “on behalf of any client or company” when he was working for ­Clinton.

  142. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    munty

    I live in the western suburbs of Melbourne, our sky gets all sorts of crazy colours.

    You might be living down-wind from a drug cooking house.

  143. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    That was a long line. Cold, too.

    Surprised to see Libs actually preference LDP #2 in the senate, based on what I said earlier… they’re still afraid of putting One Nation anywhere, though. The media convinced them it was racist years ago. LOL. Liberals are such mugs.

    ALP is, of course, preferencing Greens #2 in the senate… but with Shooters and Fishers at #3 and then Animal Justice at #4. Then LDP at #5. LMAO. That’s almost balanced.

    I dunno, if LDP gets enough first prefs, they might actually get a spot in NSW.

  144. Old bloke Avatar
    Old bloke

    Top Ender says:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:13 am

    Cat Call for Election 22…

    Predicted result out of 151 seats up for grabs. (76 to win)

    I think it’s impossible to predict who will eventually win but I’ll make these predictions:

    Primary vote for Liberal and Labor will be down on previous elections
    The winner won’t be decided tonight, the majors will be scouring the last preferences to determine the eventual winner
    The Nats will hold their existing seats
    Minor parties will take the 5th and 6th seats in the Senate in most states

    Regardless of who wins, Australia loses.

  145. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Thanks C.L.
    Honestly, I heard Matthew Guy’s hysterical rant when I jumped in the car that day and commented to Mrs Panzer that someone must have lit a fire under his arse.
    After two years of meek acquiescence to the bullshit served up to us all by the bat-eared hunchback, the only thing which arcs him up is a pro-lifer in his own party.
    And you know what is the worst thing about it?
    Guy didn’t crack it with Finn because of his comments, per se.
    He only whipped himself into a lather when a few Green-Left morons on Twatter went off.

  146. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    More on the American 13% in Action

    Chicago Mass Shooting: 2 Killed, 7 Injured in Shooting on Near North Side, Police Say

    The scene turned even more chaotic when a fistfight broke out between several people as police and paramedics were treating victims on the sidewalk, witnesses say

  147. dover0beach Avatar

    Dr.Snekotron
    @snekotron
    Now, what is in that $40B package supposedly for Ukraine?

    -8.7B for replenishing US weapons stockpiles
    -3.9B for USEUCOM
    -5B for global food supply chain

    -6B for weapons and training for Ukraine
    -9B economic assistance to Kiev
    -0.9B for Ukrainian refugees

    Something like this was to be expected. Good thread.

  148. incoherent rambler Avatar
    incoherent rambler

    Well ladies and gentlemen (the rest of you can fsck off) , I wish to report on my excursion to the polling booth today.
    In all my many many years of voting this is the first time I have seen a punch up at the polling booth.
    The rudest bunch of pricks you would ever want to encounter. The AEC staff led the way by example, just awful.
    This was at a royal blue booth in an all red electorate.
    The countdown to our very own civil war has begun.

    PS
    Scumo will not win this election.

  149. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    ALP is, of course, preferencing Greens #2 in the senate… but with Shooters and Fishers at #3 and then Animal Justice at #4

    For a long time I have suspected that S&F is an ALP astroturfing outfit.
    Made muted noises about pandemic legislation in Victoria, but always fell into line at the 11th hour.

  150. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Idiots in charge of schools:

    A public high school’s decision to remove the front doors of toilet blocks in order to create ‘non-gendered’ facilities has been met with fury among parents.

    In a letter sent to parents and caregivers, Principal of Golden Grove High School in Adelaide, Peter Kuss, advised the changes to the current toilet facilities had been implemented.

    ‘The health, safety and wellbeing of all young people is important to us. We understand that accessing toilet facilities whilst at school can cause anxiety for some students,’ Mr Kuss wrote in the letter.

    Daily Mail

  151. Colonel Crispin Berka Avatar
    Colonel Crispin Berka

    Fleeced says: May 21, 2022 at 12:53 pm

    That was a long line. Cold, too.

    Similar at my nearest democracy sausage factory.
    The long line to get in was only the beginning.

    The bloke looked up my name in my electorate, which I’d been voting in for over a decade, and my name wasn’t there. I checked in the neighbouring electorate in case the lines had shifted. Not listed there either. Had to make a Declaration vote which goes into the special ballot box on the table.

    What an amazing co-incidence, you say stuff critical of the deep state on the Internet, a month later you’ve dropped off the electoral roll. Just an amazing random co-incidence, right?

    And… the democracy sausage sizzle had run out of bread. But I don’t blame the deep state for that.

  152. incoherent rambler Avatar
    incoherent rambler

    Regardless of who wins, Australia loses.

    Tell me something new.

  153. Makka Avatar
    Makka

    Idiots in charge of schools:

    Woke prick doing his best to climb the woke PS ladder. Parasites in charge of schools.

  154. chrisl Avatar
    chrisl

    At my local booth the Liberal how to vote helper said he voted LDP in the senate
    As a protest.

  155. Plasmamortar Avatar
    Plasmamortar

    In all my many many years of voting this is the first time I have seen a punch up at the polling booth.

    If the government continues down the path it is on, we may see something worse than just a punch up in the years to come.

  156. Plasmamortar Avatar
    Plasmamortar

    I should also add here, I believe that if the two major parties were to lose a significant amount of seats, they would simply form a Labor/Liberal coalition government as a ‘Fuck you!’ To the general population.

  157. dover0beach Avatar

    Great article by areff, thanks for posting the link. Fed Libs don’t hold a candle to VicLibs. The worst.

  158. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Daughter just confirmed that the annual Melbourne Uni ball seems to have been a COVID super spreader event, including her.

    Australian Politicians and Bureaucrats COVID response is a pile of wrecked lives, suicides, cash and ego in the middle of a sea of COVID and Vaccine injuries.

  159. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Top Endersays:
    May 21, 2022 at 1:05 pm
    Idiots in charge of schools:

    A public high school’s decision to remove the front doors of toilet blocks in order to create ‘non-gendered’ facilities has been met with fury among parents.

    remove the front doors of toilet blocks – memories of having a dump in Singleton Military Toilets rows with no doors facing each other along the rows

  160. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    How do you get “Labor win” out of that?

    Dunno.
    TE made that call

  161. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    personally I reckon Lib minority govt.

    but, who knows heh?

  162. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    And… the democracy sausage sizzle had run out of bread. But I don’t blame the deep state for that.

    We didn’t even have one at my booth this year. I normally vote early when they’re just setting up. Today I vote around lunch time, and they’re not there. I wasn’t planning on getting one anyway, but with the long line and cold weather, I probably would have relented.

  163. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    democracy sausage factory

    ours was run by the State Govt
    got there, no cooked snags, but two flat-tops full of raw ones on the go
    got out of the booth, snagged a snag but there were only 6 left.
    no more freshies on the go either

    wandering around with my banger and a bloke walks past, “how’s democracy taste, mate?”

    I smiled as I replied, “tastes like a shit sandwich this time !”

  164. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Matrix, I just moved you into the middle section….

  165. Bruce in WA Avatar
    Bruce in WA

    Labor to win:

    pete m Labor to win by 10 seats
    Rabz Labore at least 78 seats
    Cassie of Sydney two or three seats
    Leon L ALP + Greens + TEALS 90; LNP et al 61
    Sancho Labor – 76; LNP – 73; Greens – 1; Teal – 1; UAP – 0
    MatrixTransform Liars 67; Crossbench 13; LNP 71

    You might have missed mine, TE … Labor by 4 seats 🙁

  166. Leon L. Avatar
    Leon L.

    Roger says:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:52 am
    New Study Finds mRNA Vaccines Actually Hurt Long-Term Immunity to Covid Compared to the Unvaccinated
    Very interesting if confirmed.

    This is not new.
    12 months ago it was known that covid “vaccine” immunity was only spike IgG based and natural immunity was multi antigen and multi immunoglobulin based.
    It was also known that from sars-cov-1 that natural immunity persists at 18 years.
    Immunology 101 natural immunity always greater than vaccine immunity.
    I can probably dig up the papers, but it was at least April last year.

  167. dopey Avatar
    dopey

    Bound to be a long night in the tally room. Too close to call for sure. It may be a hung parliament…blah blah blah

  168. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Libs to get between 76-80 seats.

  169. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    I live in the western suburbs of Melbourne, our sky gets all sorts of crazy colours.

    Those crazy colours are inside your arse because that’s where your head is.

  170. dover0beach Avatar

    Auron MacIntyre
    @AuronMacintyre
    ·
    1h
    No one panic historically this has ended just fine

    Gurgavin
    @gurgavin
    · 20h
    INSANE NUMBERS FROM GERMANY

    INFLATION ( PPI) IS UP 33.5% YoY ( HIGHEST EVER)

    ENERGY PRICES ARE UP 87.3% YoY

    Incredible numbers.

  171. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    I didn’t realise there was a new thread so this is from the end of the old one.

    At my local polling booth I was offered HTV leaflets by Labor, UAP, Liberal Democrats and Greens. Nobody there from the Coalition even though they had a candidate. Granted this is Chris Bowen’s electorate they should have made the effort if only for the sake of their senate vote.

    Last time things were this bad for Liberals was in 2016 when nobody would volunteer for Turnbull. From this alone I would extrapolate that Labor will squeak in.

  172. Pedro the Loafer Avatar
    Pedro the Loafer

    Just finished the pilgrimage to my town’s lone polling booth.

    Very long line, but a very convivial group, many being neighbours having chats about rainfall, seeding progress, footy results, Shire road repairs, pub lunch quality, reno progress etc. in fact virtually anything except politics. On the odd occasion opinions were ventured, there seems to be a general dissatisfaction with the majors. The WA Senate count will be interesting (if they don’t lose another pile of completed votes).

    The region has been hived off the electorate of Pearce and transferred to Durack, with poll predictors giving the sitting Lib member a 99.2% of victory.

    The mandatory hairy old hippy and loudmouthed old boiler Greens HTV urgers were haranguing the line and copping many dirty looks and muttered obscenities. Fair bet that this booth will not have too many Green primary votes.

    Off to an election night party tonight. I may be some time.

  173. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    with poll predictors giving the sitting Lib member a 99.2% of victory.

    The Labor candidate is ” a proud Yamadji man” who has spent the past twenty years, working in the indigenous industry….

  174. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Dover, Germany needs to feel the inflation good and hard. They are driving the renewables boondoggle for the whole of Europe. Being rich they could live with power costs that would cripple less affluent nations. Now that it’s really beginning to bite even them, or especially them, maybe they will come to their senses and reverse course which would free up the rest of Europe and then the rest of the world.

  175. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    dover0beachsays:

    May 21, 2022 at 1:15 pm

    Great article by areff, thanks for posting the link. Fed Libs don’t hold a candle to VicLibs. The worst.

    I hadn’t read areff’s piece before I posted my comment but we agree on the most disgusting part of Guy’s behaviour.
    That is, that he only found Finn’s position untenable after the Twatter mob got after him and the arses of some Teal-Libs started puckering.

  176. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Point just raised by my Wife re SMH Article – (Interrupting Fine Red and watching replay Practice 2 F1 Barcelona)

    Where in the Heck are all the Men?

    The female wave

    Table shows the federal electorates with an above-average proportion of female voters
    Percentage of Australian voters that are women: 51.2%

    30 Electorates with Women (person must be a Biologist) 52% and above

    Have the Men all TransGendered or just been emasculated into Neuter Gender?

  177. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    “working in the indigenous industry….”

    Imagine putting “grifter” on your résumé!

  178. Real Deal Avatar
    Real Deal

    Just got back from voting. I filled the entire senate paper out.

    I didn’t put the Greens last. Though in NSW I put Greens David Shoebridge second last. So who got last spot on my Senate paper?

    Jane Caro of course. I always save last place for the ugly ones.

  179. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    MatrixTransformsays:

    May 21, 2022 at 1:21 pm

    How do you get “Labor win” out of that?

    Dunno.
    TE made that call

    That’s really who I was asking.
    And you even have to be explicit about which way you think the Teals will go.
    To me they are so obviously Green-Left, but I was talking to an ALP Rustadon on Thursday who was convinced they were a front for the Libs.

  180. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    For a long time I have suspected that S&F is an ALP astroturfing outfit.

    I have the same suspicion.

  181. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    To me they are so obviously Green-Left, but I was talking to an ALP Rustadon on Thursday who was convinced they were a front for the Libs.

    awesome isn’t it, candicktates who hide their real intentions on the way to power.

  182. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    The region has been hived off the electorate of Pearce and transferred to Durack, with poll predictors giving the sitting Lib member a 99.2% of victory.

    Durack, otherwise known as “the areas outside the Filth metropolitan area”, or just marked ‘here there be dragons” on the electoral maps.

    We look at norther Queenslanders complaining about representation and bark our a cynical guffaw.

    For the edification of non-Sandgropers.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Durack

  183. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Real Dealsays:
    May 21, 2022 at 2:23 pm
    Just got back from voting. I filled the entire senate paper out.

    So who got last spot on my Senate paper?

    Jane Caro of course. I always save last place for the ugly ones.

    Michael Smith News would be Proud

    Do the Right Thing – Caro 75

  184. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    To me they are so obviously Green-Left, but I was talking to an ALP Rustadon on Thursday who was convinced they were a front for the Libs.

    The wife knows someone who is good friends with local Teal candidate.

    She’s basically a wet Liberal who thinks the party is too reactionary.

  185. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Rogersays:

    May 21, 2022 at 2:26 pm

    For a long time I have suspected that S&F is an ALP astroturfing outfit.

    I have the same suspicion

    Commos in flanno.
    No, seriously.
    I think they are old-school ALP, and are there to capture leakage on the right in upper house elections, and possibly pick up conservatives who think they are voting for Daniel Boone.

  186. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Again Surprisingly SMH

    ‘Low risk’: WHO holds meeting as monkeypox cases top 100 in Europe

    Spain reported 24 new cases on Friday, Madrid time, mainly in the Madrid region where the regional government closed a sauna linked to the majority of infections, taking the total to 30.

    Madrid authorities have been working on tracing the cases mainly from a single outbreak in a sauna, regional health chief Enrique Ruiz Escudero told reporters on Friday. The word sauna is used in Spain to describe establishments popular with gay men looking for sex rather than just a bathhouse.

    The WHO said the early cases were unusual for three reasons: All but one have no relevant travel history to areas where monkeypox is endemic; most are being detected through sexual health services and among men who have sex with men, and the wide geographic spread across Europe and beyond suggests that transmission may have been going on for some time.

    In Britain, where 20 cases have been now confirmed, the UK Health Security Agency said the recent cases in the country were predominantly among men who self-identified as gay, bisexual or men who have sex with men.

  187. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Mallee residents asked to vote correctly after producing Victoria’s highest 2019 informal count

    My willy drawing has caught on.
    I think we can top the 2019 result.
    Mallee – Australia’s most informal voters.
    I like the sound of that.

  188. 132andBush Avatar
    132andBush

    Oh come on says:
    May 21, 2022 at 11:23 am
    Fleeced, Morrison deserves the bullet for not doing a thing to rein in the psychotic state premiers during their lockdown and mass vaxx tyrannies. Instead, he did what he could to assist and otherwise stay out of their way. Fuck him. I’m a single issue voter on this. I want to punish the Libs far more than I want to prevent the ALP from forming government.

    That and the net zero bs.

  189. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    My only polling booth observation was the blockhead holding an ALP HTV, who had a crack at the UAP HTV guy.
    “I don’t vote for racist, homophobic bigots”.
    It seems like that is how you can project as being an “in tune sophisticated voter” by just accusing everyone who is not ALP-Teal-Green of being a poofter bashing racist bigot.

  190. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    COMING SOON – Probably Posed by a Biologist?

    What is a woman? The question that stumped a Supreme Court nominee now resonates through our culture. And, in a rare coup of timing, the movie What Is a Woman?, produced by the Daily Wire, starring Matt Walsh and directed by my friend Justin Folk, will be released on June 1. Matt and Justin traveled around the world, searching for the answer to a simple question that suddenly has become a puzzle.

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  1. Ryan flies to Canberra in the most expensive business class seats every week. And she decided to run for parliament…