Open Thread – Weekend 21 May 2021


Landscape with bridge, Ivan Shishkin, late 1800s

1,395 responses to “Open Thread – Weekend 21 May 2021”

  1. Zyconoclast Avatar
    Zyconoclast

    Check out the NSFW

    the new currency lad Blog.

  2. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    St. Jacinda has performed the miracle of a 15% fall in property prices in NZud.

    “Puck up your bid and walk”
    commanded St. Jacinda.
    The crippled economy didn’t move.
    “Puck up your bid and walk”
    demanded St. Jacinda.
    The cripple economy didn’t move.
    “Misogynistic racist”
    cried St. Jacinda and she walked.

  3. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Looks like we will be going full on treaty stuff. Funny how it was never highlighted before the election.

    Welcome to the modern mandate.

  4. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Living in Perth means never having to worry about drainage. Today is not one of those days.

  5. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Corruption is now defined as Federal MP getting funding for upgrades to 1960s era football ground amenities.
    Okay.

  6. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    132andBush says:
    May 23, 2022 at 2:07 pm
    Gez,
    Emerald Grain have 22/23 APW MG del Melb @ $500/t

    Worth a nibble I think.

    Hard to go wrong with a modest grab.

  7. m0nty Avatar

    Luckily, no one important ever listens to Terry McCrann.

  8. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    However there have been many individuals who’ve had their lives destroyed by ICAC here in NSW.

    In 2003 I took my complaint about the blatant corruption over the drugs problem in this “houso” estate .. I detailed the whole sorry period with, specific, incidents and named names from both Housing, NSW politics & plod .. a week after ICAC contacted me & said, “Sorry, although it is well presented we cannot investigate because it involves plod .. anything involving plod is out of our juridiction and needs to be dealt with by the Plod Integrity Commission” ….
    I replied, “What about the rest and the other folk named?” ..
    Answer .. “Once you raise plod in the matter we aren’t allowed to use any of it” ..
    “But, thanks for bringing it to our attention and good look with your endeavours” ..
    After that I gave up! .. duuuuuh!

  9. m0nty Avatar

    Chelsea Morning @Chels_E_Morning
    McGowan on Dutton today: “He’s an extremist. And I don’t think he fits with modern Australia at all. And he doesn’t seem to listen. He’s extremely conservative… I actually don’t think he’s that smart. I’ve seen him present on things. I don’t really think there’s much there.”

    O, the fun we shall have.

  10. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    China is reportedly pushing for more security pacts with Pacific Island nations after its agreement with the Solomon Islands.

    Beijing and the Solomons signed the deal last month, raising concerns in New Zealand and Australia about growing Chinese influence in a region traditionally under their sway.

    Nearly two months later, reports are emerging China is now discussing security pacts with Kiribati.

    “They are in talks with Kiribati and at least one more Pacific island country over an agreement that would cover much of the same ground as that with Solomon Islands,” said an unnamed intelligence representative from an ally of the US.

  11. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Looking through the first preference votes so far.
    Firstly Derryn Hinch is a dead duck party. A lesson in being elected to the Senate on a state law and order issue, then talking about everything but. A bit like Xenophon being elected on pokies control and then forgetting about it.
    Secondly, Fat Cloive has just short of 500,000 votes, or 4.8%.
    This is up 0.74% on last time.
    That is an abysmal performance considering he didn’t run in most Lower House seats last time.
    The “increase” amounts to about 500 votes per seat this time as against ‘no candidate, no votes’ last time.
    $80 meg to go backwards.

  12. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    m0ntysays:
    May 23, 2022 at 12:42 pm
    ICAC will have a target-rich environment.

    wot, you expect it to be retrospective?

    How far back should we go? Craig Thompson & Kathy Jackson. Julia Gillard’s home reno’s and the AWU?

  13. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Sneakers has been drinking his own bathwater for a while. Alas the good burghers of WA seem happy with that.

  14. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Herald-Sun, complete with typo:

    His grandfather, Robert, said the alleged asault came “out of the blue”.

    He said Daniel was due to undergo further brain scans on Monday.

    “We hope they can find who did this,” Robert said.

    “Hopefully someone might say they knew who did it.”

    “Unprovoked, he was attacked by six or seven teenagers with didgeridoos,” Robert told 3AW radio.

  15. Behind Enemy Lines Avatar
    Behind Enemy Lines

    Would anyone of this parish be able to recommend credible, practical websites that lay out what the individual layman on a small property can do to achieve a meaningful degree of self-sufficiency against potential energy shortages?

  16. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    You think you’re smart Monty but you just come across as petty and vindictive.
    Being proud of thinking someone who is conservative is an ‘extremist’.
    Meanwhile you have a traditional marriage and live in a traditional family.
    Dill.

  17. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    He’s got a bit less to count than he had six weeks ago.

    Not for long .. I rea dsomewhere last week that gets a $A1million a week from some Chicom mob in royalties for some “tenements” in WA …….

  18. Winston Smith Avatar

    Dot:

    Terminal, but not sick yet
    Deteriorating, but not feeble
    A month to live, loss of fine motor function and muscular function
    Wasting away with weeks or days to go, tumours suppressing normal mental faculties

    Dot, the problem here is of a dying? corrupt leader whose Military/Civilian strategy for nuclear war is ‘Escalate to Win” against a foe (NATO) whose strategy is ‘Deescalate to Win.’ and whose leader is also a dying, corrupt, senile man who is hard pressed finding his feet in the morning to put his gloves on.
    It’s a picture that should be arousing concern with Pre WW1 type Alliances being struck, with WW3 weaponry.

  19. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Which electorate was Cardimona running in?
    How did he go?

  20. Rockdoctor Avatar
    Rockdoctor

    Just saw the headlines, didn’t take him long to show his nasty streak. Also kow towing to China. Albo true colours on show.

    Also civil war about to break out in the Lib’s? They need to walk away from the seats they lost. They aint ever coming back.

    Going to be an eventful 3 years…

  21. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “You think you’re smart Monty but you just come across as petty and vindictive.
    Being proud of thinking someone who is conservative is an ‘extremist’.
    Meanwhile you have a traditional marriage and live in a traditional family.
    Dill.”

    Correct.

  22. Rockdoctor Avatar
    Rockdoctor

    Cardi in Kennedy & he got a respectable 5%.

  23. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Tony Abbott drags Libs to the right, wins 27 seats.

    Mao drags to the Left, wins by one.

    Scomo..

  24. Winston Smith Avatar

    Shatterzzz:

    Well, time for the apology .. having stated, emphatically, several times that KK was a shoe-in because of apathy and putting money ($50) on it I have to say, with joy,
    “I wuz wrong, dead wrong and pleezed to shout it”.

    I put $50 on LNP to win.
    Not even enough to buy a slab of beer.
    Oh well.
    (Oh, and >80 seats in the Cat Collective Drinking Fund.)
    Crashed and burning…

  25. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Rockdoctorsays:

    May 23, 2022 at 2:43 pm

    Cardi in Kennedy & he got a respectable 5%.

    Ah, right.
    For some reason I had Hinkler in mind.

  26. Winston Smith Avatar

    Rosie:

    Why is Dai Le banned from the liberal party?
    How can a council fund a candidate in a federal election?

    A couple of damn fine questions, there.

  27. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Lysandersays:

    May 23, 2022 at 2:44 pm

    Tony Abbott drags Libs to the right, wins 27 seats.

    Mao drags to the Left, wins by one.

    That is the point.
    People understand deep down that Climate Change is a job destroyer.
    The Libs could run a policy of “We will act on climate change … right about when China and India do. Oh, and you want us to be like Europe? That means nucalear.”

  28. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Mark McGowan calling Dutton an extremist and not very smart.
    If I was Dutton I’d walk up behind McGowan at any future meet up and whisper boo in his ear.
    Mark would shit himself.

  29. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    O, the fun we shall have

    it’s all fun and games until somebody has their eye out

  30. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    McGowan on Dutton today: “He’s an extremist. And I don’t think he fits with modern Australia at all. And he doesn’t seem to listen. He’s extremely conservative… I actually don’t think he’s that smart. I’ve seen him present on things. I don’t really think there’s much there.”

    McGowan? Oh, of course. Totally unbiased source of commentary.

    Enjoy your orgasms munty, they might not last long.

  31. hzhousewife Avatar
    hzhousewife

    Two things bothered my thinking this morning. Firstly, why did the people who voted Teal, not just vote Green or Labor? Secondly, I wonder what the Chinese think of Our Mr Wong of Foreign Affairs, gay female with Chinese characteristics. Do they assume she aligns with Chairman Xi? If I am correct, the Chinese take a very dim view of “their people” not rallying to the Party line (no matter how many generations on).
    The way I feel today echoes the way I felt when Whitlam was elected, a dreadful sense of foreboding. Then I went overseas for ten years.

  32. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Tony Abbott drags Libs to the right, wins 27 seats.

    Yeah, but then he deferred to the party room and backed down on pretty much everything. His first loyalty was to them, not us.

    Mao drags to the Left, wins by one.

    Scomo..

    ScoMo boasted about a miracle, and then did nothing. Probably figured he’d get another one.

    In the meantime, he took a backseat to the State Premiers.

    Good riddance. Hopefully someone can drag Libs back to the right, but would you really believe them? Would you expect them to follow through? Especially with all the lefties still there.

    Conservatives want to save the Liberals… but what is there to save?

  33. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Meanwhile you have a traditional marriage and live in a traditional family.
    Dill.

    Not quite rosie. munty is the wife.

  34. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    Military lawyers are the worst.

  35. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Mark McGowan calling Dutton an extremist and not very smart.

    This is just poor form by any Premier, no policy debate, just straight out character assassination.

  36. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Lysandersays:
    May 23, 2022 at 2:44 pm
    Tony Abbott drags Libs to the right, wins 27 seats.

    Mao drags to the Left, wins by one.

    Scomo..

    Ssshhhh. Don’t tell munty, his orgasms will cease.

  37. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Meanwhile you have a traditional marriage and live in a traditional family.
    Dill.

    small businessman and all

    at least he isn’t an evil right-wing tradie

  38. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    Meanwhile you have a traditional marriage and live in a traditional family.
    Dill.”

    We only have m0nty’s word for that. Pix of wife and alleged offspring together with m0nty or it’s another lie.

  39. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Funny, also, how out of all the Teal seats, Celia Hammond (a true Catholic Conservative) didn’t get a Zimmerman-esque 16.7% smack in the butt:

    The only one of the six main teal independent targets I would still rate in doubt is Curtin, and even there Liberal member Celia Hammond will need to pull a rabbit out of the hat. Postals are favouring her, as they are with the Liberals in all such contests, but they are on track to bite only around 2000 out of Chaney’s existing 3350 vote margin. That would leave her needing some dynamic on absent and out-of-division pre-polls to favour her, the nature of which wouldn’t seem clear at this stage.

  40. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    Don’t feed the troll.

  41. Winston Smith Avatar

    Farmer Gez:

    The Tea Ladies are already telling Albo what he should be doing to gain their support.
    Keep it up girls.
    The public will rapidly get sick of you. You’re not in government.

    Fixingly.

  42. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Also civil war about to break out in the Lib’s? They need to walk away from the seats they lost. They aint ever coming back.

    Not sure about that. I expect there will be a few Teal oncers unless they get Albo jumping through hoops (unless the Liar Right have something to say). The Liborals are basically spectators at this stage.

  43. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    And let’s think about why McClown would weigh in to the Libs Leadership contender? He has no business as a Premier in a debate that hasn’t even happened yet”

    (1) He wants the Libs to remain wet – why?
    (2) He obviously is trying to make Libs stay away from Dutton – why, when was the last time a Premier gave “helpful advice” to a Federal Liberal Party?

  44. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    MatrixTransformsays:
    May 23, 2022 at 2:59 pm
    Meanwhile you have a traditional marriage and live in a traditional family.
    Dill.

    small businessman and all

    at least he isn’t an evil right-wing tradie

    Get it right.

    an evil right-wing waaaayyyyyycccssssisssst tradie.

  45. m0nty Avatar

    This is just poor form by any Premier, no policy debate, just straight out character assassination.

    McGowan is making the wager that Dutton will never be PM.

  46. Rockdoctor Avatar
    Rockdoctor

    Cardi’s from near Atherton west of Cairns. Was against the Katter and LNP so 5% isn’t too bad.

    Hinkler from top of my head is down towards Bundy. About 1000km difference in location.

  47. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Lysander

    (1) He wants the Libs to remain wet – why?
    (2) He obviously is trying to make Libs stay away from Dutton – why, when was the last time a Premier gave “helpful advice” to a Federal Liberal Party?

    Just before munty was born.

  48. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Military lawyers are the worst.

    Up there with ex teachers.

  49. m0nty Avatar

    You think you’re smart Monty but you just come across as petty and vindictive.
    Being proud of thinking someone who is conservative is an ‘extremist’.
    Meanwhile you have a traditional marriage and live in a traditional family.
    Dill.

    People who call themselves conservatives these days are lying. What they are is reactionaries, trying to reverse previous defeats. Their demand is to change society and destroy its institutions, not to conserve, because they don’t like what those institutions have evolved to become.

    I do not live in what conservatives would think of as a traditional family. My wife is an equal, not my chattel.

  50. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Tony Abbott drags Libs to the right, wins 27 seats.

    Abbott was coming off 6 years of R-G-R with a nearly daily arrival of boats. That was a true drover’s dog election.

  51. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Boambee

    Just have to say that all leaders of parties, states or anything else – the standard response in ALL matters of leadership in other parties is “that’s a matter for the XXX Party to decide” – stock, standard, pisses nobody off from your side or the other (or anyone in betwixt) response.

    I find it “funny” he weighed in with such unhinged comments. You have to ask why…

  52. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    HB agree with that on Tones… but, even so, 27 seats is still quite a show (when the luvvies are still making fun of you every. single. night on tellie).

    Oh look, he’s an onion eater! He’s got big ears! He wears speedos! He goes silent for 3 minutes! He, he, he, he’s Catholic! He’s mates with Pell! 27 seats, despite R-G-R, is amazing.

  53. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    Yes like that idiot who represented Eden Monaro

  54. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Just finished season 1 of 3 of a TV show called FORTITUDE .. British production .. 25 episodes all-up set on a Norwegian island up in the Arctic Circle plod/everyday life thingy ..bit different fron the usual plod plots .. polar bears & lotza ice equipment stuff on show … quite good and well worth a watch ..

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3498622/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

  55. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Mr Panzer at 11.02:

    When asked for actual evidence and locations, the We Wuz Robbed party spokesman has suddenly gone quiet.

    The usual non-specific generalities, but yes – zero as to what seats and where, let alone why the winner of the seat would publicly say there was a discrepancy when he would have romped it home either way.

    No doubt the scrutineers counting the Chinese votes on Chinese computers with a direct line back to Beijing will rise up. In an unspecified manner, of course.

  56. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “McGowan is making the wager that Dutton will never be PM.”

    I wouldn’t be too bothered about what the low IQ McClown says. And anyway, people said the same about Howard, Abbott and Albanese.

  57. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    If you want something absolutely bonkers to watch then give Everything, everywhere, all at once a try. A bit schmaltzy at times but makes up for it in other ways.

  58. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    HSBC suspends banker over ‘nut job’ climate remarks
    The bank’s bosses have already distanced themselves from the controversial
    HSBC has faced calls to sack Stuart Kirk, a senior executive at the lender

    HSBC has reportedly suspended a senior executive ahead of an internal investigation into a presentation he made that accused central bankers of overstating the financial risks of climate change.

    Stuart Kirk, the global head of responsible investing at HSBC’s asset management division, attacked climate “nut jobs” during the speech.

    Britain’s biggest bank had faced calls to sack Mr Kirk after he hit out at climate activists and asked “who cares if Miami is six metres underwater in 100 years?”

    The bank was forced to distance itself from the comments after he played down climate risks. Mr Kirk told a conference: “there’s always some nut job telling me about the end of the world”.

    The decision to suspend the senior HSBC banker, which was reported by the Financial Times, comes after the Cabinet’s green champion had refused to condemn his comments earlier in the day.

  59. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    McGowan is making the wager that Dutton will never be PM.

    McGowan will be lucky to still be premier by then anyway.

  60. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Abbott was coming off 6 years of R-G-R with a nearly daily arrival of boats. That was a true drover’s dog election.”

    Yes…but Abbott was also incredibly disciplined which helped.

  61. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “This is just poor form by any Premier, no policy debate, just straight out character assassination.”

    yep….which is what the left do. I think it’s time to throw it back.

  62. egg_ Avatar
    egg_

    “McGowan is making the wager that Dutton will never be PM.”


    Is he betting a kebab?

    Does he still have the same Signing lady?

    Has McClown ever entered a kebab eating contest?

  63. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Winston Smith says:
    May 23, 2022 at 3:02 pm
    Farmer Gez:

    The Tea Ladies are already telling Albo what he should be doing to gain their support.

    I see what you did there.
    Another Great Tea Trolley Disaster looms.

  64. pete of perth Avatar
    pete of perth

    What does Mcgowan think of elbow? I predict they won’t be pals by our next state election.

  65. Struth Avatar

    Question to Sancho who is always sitting back sneering , doing nothing but asking questions of others as if he deserves an answer…..

    After the last two years especially, do you think the elections were honest and above board?

  66. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    The usual non-specific generalities, but yes – zero as to what seats and where, let alone why the winner of the seat would publicly say there was a discrepancy when he would have romped it home either way.

    Exactly.
    This is Fat Cloive treating his supporters and the rest of us like idiots.
    Firstly, making a yuuuge mountain out of a simple molehill error in projecting who were the likely last two standing 2PP candidates.
    Which, as you say, was called by the likely main beneficiary and corrected. I am cynical enough to think that this might have been no more than a deliberate “mistake” to string out that juicy AEC overtime this week.
    Secondly, to describe exactly how preferential voting works (with the allocation of losers votes progressively to their second, third and fourth preferences) and characterise correctly allocated preferences as a “steal”.
    FMD.
    Not everyone is as willingly gullible as the failed wannabe candidate for Hervey Bay.

  67. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Just athought .. LOL!
    https://ibb.co/YfrttpS

  68. Struth Avatar

    Honestly, the little gang of sneerers here are so pro government that you would have to be a goose not to see it.

    They’ll dribble shit about all others until the cows come home, speculate on all sorts of things.
    But say a word about the obvious criminals governing us and they won’t hear of it.

    Anyone who thinks any of our “preferential” elections have ever been above board is a moron.

    Anyone who thinks they would be anything but theatre after the last two years, and suggests they’d be above board would more correctly be called an accomplice.

  69. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Yes…but Abbott was also incredibly disciplined which helped.

    The Wookie kept him on a very short leash. Which soon became a problem in government.

  70. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    What they are is reactionaries, trying to reverse previous defeats.

    Of course, when lefties of the fascist persuasion were trying to reverse their previous defeats, that was good.

    Hypocrisy, thy name is munty.

  71. Speedbox Avatar
    Speedbox

    shatterzzz says:
    May 23, 2022 at 2:34 pm
    Not for long .. I read somewhere last week that gets a $A1million a week from some Chicom mob in royalties for some “tenements” in WA …….

    Palmer’s expenditure on the election, which seems to get the ABC in such a lather, is obviously significant but a mere drop in the bucket overall.

    Palmer owns a labyrinth of companies,trusts and assets in Australia and overseas. He has substantial real estate holdings in Australia plus a significant portfolio of property overseas and, many of his companies, especially his smaller private investment ones, are based in tax havens (British Virgin Islands in particular). He has a collection of highly desirable historic cars (worth many millions of $) and whilst everyone thinks of Mineralogy and the money he gets from the Chinese for tenement access, there are a litany of other income producing businesses. He is also a significant shareholder in a large number of Australian and overseas publicly listed companies (dividend income).

    About two years ago I was reading that the great fat one has an averaged income around $6m+ per week ($300m+ p/a) from his suite of investments. Yes, turnover doesn’t equal profit and some of his known companies incur tax losses but with a net worth measured in the billions of $, I doubt that Clive is too worried about dropping a reported $80m or thereabouts on the election.

  72. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    What does Mcgowan think of elbow? I predict they won’t be pals by our next state election.

    Canberra bashing is always appreciated in the West. Like a good John Howard joke on ALPBC2.

  73. Struth Avatar

    No but I can tell you, there’s not too much between the ears with the Lib Dems that’s for sure.
    They had weekly on line webinar meetings and their hearts maybe in the right place, but they weren’t too clued in at all about a lot. Still coming from the freedom being the natural state of man, point of view..
    As reported back in January.

  74. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    He he. Fall foul of Teh Paywallian guards again. Not entirely unexpected- some excerpts “Nobody’s Girl””casual vacancy””bloody voters”.

  75. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Do the LDP even own a truck?

  76. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    After the last two years especially, do you think the elections were honest and above board?

    Q. Do I think there is the occasional bit of skullduggery and creative voting?
    A. Yes.
    Q. Do I think it might affect an outcome in a very, very marginal seat (with a margin of less than, say 250-500 votes)?
    A. It is possible.
    Q. Do I think there has been more voter dodginess than in the last 120 years.
    A. No. Unless evidence is produced. Evidence. Not, “Our scrutineers at [unnamed booth in unnamed electorate] tell us that XYZ happened.” or “Barry says schoolkids at Caulfield railway station were recruited for phone voting”.
    Q. Do I think there has been wholesale voter fraud stealing hundreds of thousands of votes from the Great Litigator?
    A. What the fuck are you smoking?

  77. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Struthsays:

    May 23, 2022 at 4:00 pm

    No but I can tell you, there’s not too much between the ears with the Lib Dems that’s for sure

    Maybe.
    But they didn’t spend $80 meg to go backwards, so I’ll give them that.
    $80 (eighty) meg.
    Fuck.
    How many Titanic replicas could we have had for that kind of dough?

  78. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    “I do not live in what conservatives would think of as a traditional family. My wife is an equal, not my chattel.”
    What a load of cobblers.
    Conservatives do not think their wives are chattel.
    Monty thinks Handmaids Tale is a true story.
    Monty gets off on insulting decent people.
    Monty is a nasty troll.
    Go away Monty.

  79. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    I doubt that Clive is too worried about dropping a reported $80m or thereabouts on the election.

    Maybe so.
    But he should be worried that he presents himself as a longtime political player with a “vision for the nation” and all he gets for $80 meg is one bloke in Victoria struggling to get a senate quota on the back of LDP and PHON preferences.

  80. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    m0nster

    “I do not live in what conservatives would think of as a traditional family. My wife is an equal …

    Jeez.
    She’s that bad?

  81. 132andBush Avatar
    132andBush

    Every cloud is a chemtrail.

  82. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    How do randoms know who has covid and won’t be turning up to vote in person?
    Why didn’t the person who who allegedly heard these conversations record them on their phone?
    Will the AEC uncover a multitude of double voting in the Caulfield?
    I have a hunch the answer is no.

  83. local oaf Avatar
    local oaf

    I may be old, but I remember when monty had his own blog.

    Whatever happened to that?

  84. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Seems to me there are two kinds of stupid.

  85. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Hey St Ruth.
    Did you predict that ScoMo would get up because he is Klaus Schwab’s preferred candidate?
    Did you say that?

  86. Vicki Avatar

    Latest poll results (from SMH ) interesting. I have rounded off most figures for convenience.

    Coalition……………4.2 million (35.8%)
    ALP……………………3.8 million (32.8%)
    Greens……………….1.4 million (11.85%)
    Teals…………………….650,000 (5.52%)
    One Nation…………..576,000 (4.9%)
    UAP………………………490,000 (4.6%)
    Other……………………587,000 (5%)

  87. Vicki Avatar

    BTW the above poll results are after almost 72% of votes counted.

  88. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    This is Fat Cloive treating his supporters and the rest of us like idiots.

    Doesn’t seem to be anything to see here, but let’s not forget the WA rort a few years ago where they “found” a box of votes and had a re-election. Clive’s man then lost his spot to Greens. So don’t pretend it hasn’t been done or that Clive doesn’t have reason for genuine grievances.

    In the last case, they should only have had a re-election if the “found box” would have altered the outcome, which I suspect it wouldn’t have (I could be wrong – was that even brought up?)

    Judge wanted a new election, though.

  89. 132andBush Avatar
    132andBush

    Just over 2 million green voters.

    We are so screwed.

  90. Speedbox Avatar
    Speedbox

    I didn’t say he might not be disappointed, even annoyed, at the lack of outcome for his $80m. It’s obviously a very significant sum (to me certainly and I guess most Cats) but to Clive, it will not alter his life one iota. As you point out, the question is whether he will line up with his cheque book in the future.

  91. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Fleeced.
    I have no doubt it happens and, yes, it might affect one Reps seat here and there.
    Or, as in WA, the last Senate spot.
    This is not good, and the AEC are pretty loosey-goosey when it comes to pursuit of this stuff.
    But, as to the question of whether the Fat Bastard has been robbed of a Senate spot in each state and 3-4 Reps seats?
    Yeah.
    But nah.
    This is classic smoke and mirrors from Fat Cloive.
    His family motto … Obsfucate and litigate.

  92. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Did you predict that ScoMo would get up because he is Klaus Schwab’s preferred candidate?
    Did you say that?

    Why yes. Yes, I believe he did.

    Only those in extreme denial would deny it.

  93. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    As you point out, the question is whether he will line up with his cheque book in the future.

    I hope he doesn’t.
    He sucks the oxygen out of other conservative minors who have a genuine interest in furthering the conservative cause and, in the end, gives us nothing.
    So far his legacy to the nation is Jacqui Jackie, a mothballed nickel smelter and an unfulfilled promise of a Titanic replica.

  94. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Conservatives do not think their wives are chattel.

    Hmmm.
    Definition includes – Tangible Goods.
    “Ooh you are awful”

  95. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Speaking of mothballed nickel smelters, I just looked up the Herbert results (including Townsville).
    The UAP candidate got belted.
    Well below the national average of ~5%, and under 1.5% in some Townsville booths.
    They haven’t forgotten.

  96. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Only those in extreme denial would deny it.

    And those silly enough to believe that receipts haven’t been kept.

  97. P Avatar
    P

    The head of the prime minister’s department, Phil Gaetjens has taken leave, replaced by acting secretary Stephanie Foster, new Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has announced.
    Financial Review

  98. Winston Smith Avatar

    Min:

    Thirty % voted for Labor hardly a majority for the brothel creeper who went to a Thai massage parlour selling sexual services , illegal in his electorate for a back problem . see Hansard . A question for all those woke women who worry about treatment of women where those Thai girls working under duress ?

    Min, they don’t care. The victims of sexual slavery don’t matter.

  99. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    Harsh but fair ll.

  100. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    Yet his guy in VIC might get up. Hope he doesn’t turn out to be another Lambie trash.

  101. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    My wife is an equal

    we know mUnty … we know

  102. Struth Avatar

    Did clive run over your poodle, Frank?

    You act like he popped your cherry then dumped you.

    And yes.
    I made a guess that corruption would see Sco Mo returned.

    “Why yes I did” to quote those to gutless to have a bet on things.

    Why?
    Because the globalist media had never before given a Labor leader a hard question and knowing the election would be rigged (I mean who in their right mind would think otherwise after the last two years except for Frank of the fibs)
    So I said quite clearly, it was a guess.
    Unfortunately they went worse, and went the whole hard left socialist, Climate lockdown route.

    For other reasons as well, as I thought Sco Mo had done such a good job for the WEF and Klaus in so far as he is a better liar than Albo and better at dribbling shit while screwing us, that they may have been concerned that Albo would be too enthusiastic and say or do something to let the cat out of the bag.
    Maybe I’ll still be right about that.
    Maybe they couldn’t even stop the labor green bias of the AEC from doing what it was always wanting to do this election, and let it happen.

    Klaus and his mates may be rich, but that doesn’t make them bright.

  103. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    The head of the prime minister’s department, Phil Gaetjens has taken leave, replaced by acting secretary Stephanie Foster, new Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has announced

    Take note Lieborals. That is how it is done.

  104. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Just over 2 million green voters.
    We are so screwed.

    Propaganda works, especially among the young and the gullible.

    There’s not a Marxist activist alive who really believes in climate doomsday, but they love the effect it is having on children because the brainwashing is seeding a revolution of the ignorant — which will fail, as revolutions always do, but the Marxists love the disruption, especially now that capitalist boardrooms have bought into Marxist doctrine.

    Big Business was and always will be the enemy of the people.

  105. Makka Avatar
    Makka

    mOron was full of the exact same shit during the R-G-R years. Ignore the idiot wrongologist.

  106. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Big Business was and always will be the enemy of the people.

    that has never been more obvious than the last few years

  107. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    My wife is an equal

    we know mUnty … we know

    there you have it, monty gets to play the mommy half the time

  108. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    The old left was right about a lot of things- big business, the Washington war machine for example

  109. Struth Avatar

    I’ll give you an example of how good Sco Mo was as a bullshit artist.
    To this very day, people on this blog still refer to him as weak and stupid.

    The whole thing would have collapsed with regards to the state’s tyranny if ScoMo allowed us to leave the country.
    Only a month ago he was in meetings with a criminal organisation known as the WEF.
    Nodding his head to doing all he was told.

  110. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    a hard question and knowing the election would be rigged (I mean who in their right mind would think otherwise after the last two years

    Okay. Please step me through:

    1. Exactly how the election was rigged, including the methodology;
    2. In favour of whom;
    3. Who rigged it, and
    4. Exactly who benefits from rigging it.

    As someone who’s been complaining all day that people here have low IQs, your towering intellect would be invaluable.

  111. Barry Avatar
    Barry

    Friedeggburger for Vicco Premier.

    You know it makes sense.

  112. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    I think our voting and vote counting have much more integrity than in the US. Far from perfect though.

  113. Struth Avatar

    Can’t see a problem with big business without corruptible governments.

    Fascism is the result of socialist control of the market and business.

    See…Hitler

  114. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Definition includes – Tangible Goods.

    yeah but only if they’re fungible too

  115. Winston Smith Avatar

    Calli:

    The other side of the equation is just as televant.
    When men abrogate their responsibility to lead, nurture and teach their children, the vacuum will be filled with something else.
    I love those Dads4Kids ads, because that was and continues to be my experience. Shame so many men don’t step up either.

    Relevant? Yes.
    Fair? No.
    Until you have been through the mill where you are stripped of your right to justice against the forces of the State – equivalent to a mouse against an elephant in must, you have no idea of the parlous situation men find themselves in in our society.
    I encourage men to NEVER find themselves in a situation where they can be doubted. There are too many vicious women out there ready to take advantage of gullible men.
    Disengage and walk away until sanity returns.

  116. dover0beach Avatar

    Few people more pathetic right now than Clive troofers. LOL.

    They don’t hold a candle to Clinton troofers, Mr Muellerween.

  117. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    The Hun
    Quoted disgruntled Liberal.
    “ScoMo strapped himself to the Liberal party like a suicide bomber and blew the whole place up.”
    One for the ages.

  118. Struth Avatar

    Okay. Please step me through:

    1. Exactly how the election was rigged, including the methodology;
    2. In favour of whom;
    3. Who rigged it, and
    4. Exactly who benefits from rigging it.

    You are aware we had phone in voting this time?

    But besides that.

    Once that vote has been placed in the box, every step of the way is corruptible.
    Even before that with placements on ballot papers of similar named parties etc.
    The non showing of ID.
    Etc Etc.
    How you can ask such a stupid fucking question is beyond laughable.

    The recent reaction of the AEC to anyone looking at their processes.

    The last two years of tyranny.
    But KD needs proof.
    He may have limped out of the gay bar with a sore arse and a bad taste in his mouth, but without proof, nothing happened.

    Yet a radar gun pointed at a tree is good enough for the same muppet to book you for speeding.

    Selective ignorance.

    It’s endless KD.

  119. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    I wouldn’t worry about Clive’s expenses. It wouldn’t surprise me if there was some creative accounting going on, and some of that money was going back to himself.

    Nonetheless, he could have spent it better, as the Teals have shown. I dunno, maybe he should lobby for a new state of Capricornica up north. With full senate representation.

  120. Winston Smith Avatar

    Pert Trader:

    Holy rainbow serpent, its a wet cold morning here in Perth. All you vaccinated people driving to work be careful now.

    I just looked out the window – it’s snowing!
    Snowing in Barcaldine!
    …………..
    Hang on.
    No I was mistaken. Someone put a dozen date rolls through the shredder and left the window open.
    Oooops!

  121. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    TheirABC’s version of being a rebel:

    West Gippsland’s Angela Betheras remembers the day she said, “Dad, I’d like to be a farmer”.

    “Well, you better get a job and earn some money because you’re not getting mine,” her late father John Betheras replied.

    And so a career in Melbourne beckoned.

    “I was a corporate girl. My last role was international supply chain manager for Coles Myer,” Angela says.

    She eventually found her way back to the land, near where she spent her childhood on her parents’ Charolais cattle property at Labertouche, over an hour east of the city.

    A battler whose parents owned a cattle property, and then made plenty of money in the corporate world.

    And now:

    She dyes and weaves the fibres herself too, with a lot of washing and drying in between.

    “So I think I work for about $5 an hour,” she says.

    Fortunately, she finds the alpacas intelligent and easy to farm.

    “You don’t herd them up, they just follow you like a Pied Piper. They’re very intriguing,” she says.
    Angela selfie with Alpacas in background

    “People say, you could be earning big bucks in Melbourne, but I go, ‘How boring’s that?’

    “I’m doing something I love. I have no money, but this is how I want to spend my life.

    Livin’ the dream.

  122. Struth Avatar

    So Clive lost 80 mill.
    How many million will he lose if the world that he was fighting against, comes about?

    I mean if you want to be all cynical when it suits.
    He might be a lot richer than you Sancho of the slip lane, because he understands losing the western civilisation might end up costing a fucking sight more than 80 million.

  123. m0nty Avatar

    Friedeggburger for Vicco Premier.

    You know it makes sense.

    Hahahahaha!

    Keep ’em coming, this is great.

  124. Winston Smith Avatar

    Vicki:

    Do they really understand the economic tidal wave, in the form of astronomical inflation & complete disruption of global trade and services, that is engulfing us? Do they have any understanding of the possibility of a war engulfing Europe within 12 months? Do they understand that the threat of hostile Chinese control of trade routes through the South China Sea is for real?

    No Vicki.
    No they don’t.
    The situation is eerily similar to Europe in 1934.
    People repeating the mantra “It can’t be happening. It’s just not happening.” as it happens around them.

  125. Struth Avatar

    The situation is eerily similar to Europe in 1934.
    People repeating the mantra “It can’t be happening. It’s just not happening.” as it happens around them.

    Especially here.
    That’s why the jabs were pushed so hard.
    Those who will soon die from them do not want to know the truth for love nor money.

    Mean girls kill.

  126. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Canavan was great on their show saying “McDonalds doesn’t pretend to sell health food so why are the Libs pretending to sell socialist policies?”

    McDonalds do claim to sell healthy food.
    Canavan is a Toff who’s never had a job in his life, never been in a McDonalds by the sounds of it, and blamed his mother for his secretly being a Dual Citizen.

  127. Winston Smith Avatar

    Fleeced:

    Shorten’s probably wondering how long before he can push Albo. I suspect he’ll have to join the queue.

    With Chloe cracking the curtain measuring tape at him, I doubt it will be long. Never underestimate that glitter coated turd, Tits will have been on a meth bender since Saturday night, running the phones and the electrical adding machines hot.

  128. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Have to say as zingers go
    ‘Sancho of the slip lane’ is up there with the best.

  129. Struth Avatar

    Monty, you’re a modern lefty.
    Which one of you, your wife or yourself, have the babies?
    If you haven’t had one of them at least, why not?

  130. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    “I’m doing something I love. I have no money, but this is how I want to spend my life.

    Alpaca farmer is code in bush for ‘mad as a cut snake’ and ‘arse out of pants’ broke.

  131. egg_ Avatar
    egg_

    “ScoMo strapped himself to the Liberal party like a suicide bomber and blew the whole place up.”

    LMFAO.
    Scummo was the bus driver who mowed them all down, just ask Glad.

  132. Struth Avatar

    Have to say as zingers go
    ‘Sancho of the slip lane’ is up there with the best.

    “Frau Notaclue” of the touring Nazis, doesn’t rate?

  133. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    Inflation/stagflation looming. I have a pile of cash, having sold my home, and have held off purchasing because prices here are simply crazy, desperate people buying anything because they have to house their spouse and/or kids. Bad time to buy, and I haven’t.

    Rising interest rates hold hope for real estate prices to settle down. But inflation/stagflation? Jeepers! Getting hit from both sides. Advice?

  134. Struth Avatar

    Alpaca farmer is code in bush for ‘mad as a cut snake’ and ‘arse out of pants’ broke.

    Also code for “hobby Farmer”

  135. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    MatrixTransform says:
    May 23, 2022 at 5:07 pm
    Definition includes – Tangible Goods.
    yeah but only if they’re fungible too

    You can’t spot the swingers until they out themselves.

  136. Struth Avatar

    Rising interest rates hold hope for real estate prices to settle down. But inflation/stagflation? Jeepers! Getting hit from both sides. Advice?

    Find yourself a 98 year old sugar daddy.

  137. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Just looked at photo of the Labor leadership team of true blue Aussie battlers
    Anthony Albanese
    St Mary’s Cathedral College
    Penny Wong
    Scotch College Adelaide
    Richard Marles
    Geelong Grammar.
    Mountly was so right.

  138. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Bridget Archer (yes, first time I’d heard of her too; holds Bass by the tighest of margins) told Patricia Karvelas on AM today that she will potentially put her hat in the ring for deputy leader and fight hard to prevent the Liberal Party going “further right”. The Liberal Party belongs “in the centre”, she opined.

    Bridget Archer was front page news a few months ago when she voted with Labor for a Federal ICAC.
    Unfortunately for Bridgie, she didn’t understand that her vote meant fuck all, because an absolute majority [at least 76 votes] was required under Standing Orders.
    Anyhow, she’s clearly a real Liberal and she has been reelected in the Liberals most Marginal Seat.

  139. egg_ Avatar
    egg_

    The head of the prime minister’s department, Phil Gaetjens has taken leave, replaced by acting secretary Stephanie Foster, new Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has announced

    Are her tits bigger than Tits’ tits?

  140. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Monty
    The Frank Spencer of the house.

  141. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    I have a pile of cash, having sold my home, and have held off purchasing because prices here are simply crazy, desperate people buying anything because they have to house their spouse and/or kids. Bad time to buy, and I haven’t.

    I’m not going to recommend bitcoin, because I don’t give financial advice. But I have a fair bit in crypto. It’s not for the faint hearted, though. LOL.

  142. Razey Avatar
    Razey

    If voted mattered they wouldn’t let us do it.

    Nothing can stop Australia becoming an Argentina, and then Venezuela.

  143. Winston Smith Avatar

    Perth Trader:

    GreyRanga……NO NO No…..not Albo….the dog, the dog. I suspect the dog will be on the cover of ‘House & Garden’ soon.

    It’s clone of the dog Rudd hired to project his humanity with.
    But it wouldn’t have a bar of him, even though the Ruddster walked around with a chop in his pocket.

  144. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    From another place last week.
    Guess who?

    Before the election, I put it to you that I believe Scott Morrison will be voted back in.
    Well he actually won’t be, but through corruption he will be.
    I could be wrong, but here’s my reasoning.

    Anyone who thinks the results of the election are not already known in the UN and WEF circles is kidding themselves.
    USA and French election should tell you all you need to know.

    ….

    I’d put money on Sco Mo, not being re elected, but being appointed by criminals.
    Just like Biden.

  145. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Razey!
    How are things in the Land of the Rising Sun?

  146. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Bought the generator this arvo. Now for the transfer switch.

  147. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Wonder what happened to poor old Rubin when the lying slapper got the push. Even the name Rubin smacks of focus groups, poor mutt.

  148. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I’m just disappointed it’s taken this long for us to be Venezuela.
    I’m going to the zoo tomorrow.

  149. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Also civil war about to break out in the Lib’s? They need to walk away from the seats they lost. They aint ever coming back.

    Labor lost Griffith to the Greens and finished 3rd on Primary Votes.
    Should Labor abandon Griffith?

  150. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    From “The Age.”

    Afghan soldier absent on day of alleged killing, says Ben Roberts-Smith witness
    Michaela Whitbourn
    By Michaela Whitbourn
    May 23, 2022 — 4.44pm

    An Afghan soldier who was allegedly directed by Ben Roberts-Smith to order the unlawful execution of a prisoner was not present on the day in question, according to a former elite soldier supporting the war veteran in his defamation case.

    Person 39, a former Special Air Service soldier whose identity cannot be revealed for national security reasons, gave evidence in the Federal Court on Monday about his service alongside Roberts-Smith in Afghanistan in 2012.

    He was asked about a key detail relating to a mission in October that year, during which The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Canberra Times have alleged Roberts-Smith directed an Afghan soldier working with the SAS, dubbed Person 12, to shoot a prisoner or order one of his subordinates to do it.

    Under the rules of engagement, prisoners could not be killed.

    Person 39, a former British Special Boat Service soldier, described himself as Roberts-Smith’s senior on that deployment, adding that “I still view myself more as a mentor kind of older person”.

    He said he was informed at a briefing in 2012 that Person 12 had been stood down from working with the SAS in late July, meaning that the Afghan soldier could not have been present with Roberts-Smith in October. Person 39 agreed he had neither met nor worked with Person 12.

    Roberts-Smith is suing the newspapers for defamation over a series of articles in 2018 that he says accuse him of war crimes including the unlawful killing of Afghan prisoners. He maintains any killings were carried out lawfully in the heat of battle.

    The newspapers are seeking to rely on a defence of truth and allege Roberts-Smith was involved in six unlawful killings, including by directing Person 12 to shoot a prisoner or to order one of his subordinates to do it. Roberts-Smith has denied the alleged incident took place and has said Person 12 was not there on the day in question.

    The presence or otherwise of Person 12 on the mission in October 2012 has been a much-debated issue in the defamation trial. Roberts-Smith conceded in court last year that, based on material produced by the Defence Department, the explanation in his written outline of evidence that Person 12 had been stood down was wrong. However, he maintains the Afghan soldier was not there.

    Some of Roberts-Smith’s witnesses have maintained Person 12 had been stood down for shooting at a dog and inadvertently injuring an SAS soldier, while others have said they were mistaken about this account. Roberts-Smith’s witnesses have denied colluding over this evidence.

    A serving SAS soldier dubbed Person 14, called to give evidence by the newspapers in February, told the court he witnessed Roberts-Smith tell an interpreter during the October 2012 mission to direct Person 12 to shoot a prisoner, “or I will”. That direction was ultimately relayed and a member of the partner force shot the Afghan man dead, he said.

  151. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    I’m just disappointed it’s taken this long for us to be Venezuela.
    I’m going to the zoo tomorrow.

    Nom nom nom 😛

  152. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Eyrie says:
    May 23, 2022 at 5:53 pm
    Bought the generator this arvo. Now for the transfer switch.

    After the carnage of real action on climate change, I can see the Tinder profiles.
    -Single with generator-
    Knocking the ladies back then.

  153. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Nodding his head to doing all he was told

    it was his smirking that gave me the shits

    for example, watch the recent clip when he’s asked the WHO question

    look at the barely concealed glee on his dial

    disgusting

  154. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Just think Rudd won in a Ruddslide in 2007 and still managed to con the electorate for a couple of years that “good ol” Kev was just an ordinary bloke. Labor’s primary was 43.4% at that election. Nobody likes Albo, nobody thinks he’s an ordinary bloke (he’s worse) and his pulse is flatlining.

    It’s sad watching a terminal patient being brought back to life, if only momentarily.

  155. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Firstly, making a yuuuge mountain out of a simple molehill error in projecting who were the likely last two standing 2PP candidates.

    Maaaate, “Jack” Dempsey didn’t finish 2nd at a single Booth in Hinkler, yet the DRO told the ROs at the Booths to distribute preferences to Keith Pitt, who ran 1st at every Booth and Good Ol’ “Jack”.
    “Jack” doesn’t have access to Joe Biden’s Postal Vote operation, so:
    Can you provide any explanation for that decision by the Hinkler DRO that doesn’t contain Tunneling Rodents?

  156. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    He has a new and improved feature. Dickless upticks.

    Now gooooorne from CL’s site.

  157. Fair Shake Avatar
    Fair Shake

    FWIW: a friend of mine was in charge of a AEC booth in Victoria . He’s no dummy. There are multiple layers of collating, checking, signing off , reporting by more than one person. Do mistakes happen? Yes but they are picked up. If there is a way to rig the ballot he ain’t aware of it. One of the few is any ways would be collusion with more than a few people involved. Just not worth the risks.

    The biggest risk is when people come to vote for the Senate. A great many people just don’t understand the process. The AEC staff on the day need to go to great lengths to give advice on how to complete the form but not to lead how people should vote. Even running their hand across the top of the paper from left to right would lead quite a few to number 1 to 6 across the top of the page.

    There are so many newly arrived Australians are who are so happy to vote but do not know how. Then there was the poor bastards with multiple sclerosis, bad eyesight, mentally challenged…

    He also suspects quite a few LDP Votes were given in error. At his booth there were no liberal HTV papers handed out after 11am. Many people were coming in with the LDP HTV card after 11am thinking they were voting for Scomo. Nothing the AEC can nor should do about that. By hey you snooze you lose.

  158. Goanna Avatar
    Goanna

    Johanna @5.45pm

    John Adam’s economist.
    He says the question is political not economic when it comes to the powers that be crashing the housing market by raising interest rates. (Later says it’s not going to happen.)

  159. will Avatar
    will

    Canavan was great on their show saying “McDonalds doesn’t pretend to sell health food so why are the Libs pretending to sell socialist policies?”

    The libs aren’t pretending at all, they are actually doing it.

  160. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Tony Abbott drags Libs to the right, wins 27 seats.

    He won 18 seats [had 72 in 2010, 90 after 2013].
    If he hadn’t lied about repealing S 18[c], he wouldna won 18 seats, but
    he mighta gone out with some dignity.
    Incidentally, Liberals lost Lindsay in 2016, now it’s a safe Liberal seat held by a liberal Member.
    What happened to the big C conservatives and the Fake Moderates?
    They got the boot.

  161. Carpe Jugulum Avatar
    Carpe Jugulum

    That’s why the jabs were pushed so hard.
    Those who will soon die from them do not want to know the truth for love nor money

    Stop it, you sound like an A1 Fanboi and it’s fucking ridiculous.

  162. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    LDP might have lost as many votes as it gained from any such confusion this year.

    Maybe they’re better off as the Liberty and Democracy party anyway. They had their name change lodged, so the AEC dropped the de-registration process (which began after new Lib/Lab regulation)… so LDP then cancelled their name change. And then the election was called and it was too late to stop them.

    All fun and games. With no member elected, they’ll have to change their name now.

  163. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    Don’t forget that Elbow has all those ETU (Electrical Trades Union) employees who work in power stations to deal with. The ETU take no prisoners.

    Remember those old movies where people are trapped between walls that are moving inwards?

    Just wait till he is being hammered from all directions.

  164. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Note the mix of arrogance and fear with which munty refuses to accept that the gains of the fascist left are not on some irrervisible “arc of history”, but might be reversed. He believes that any attempt to reverse what he regards as “gains”, but others might regard as regressive, is unacceptable.

    Of course, to munty, the gains of the fascist left are right and proper, and it is unacceptable (but frightening) that others might not agree.

    munty, now the tool of the reactionary fascist establishment that he has fought against (metaphorically of course, none of that vulgar violence for him), fears that he might be on the wrong side of history.

  165. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Incidentally, Liberals lost Lindsay in 2016, now it’s a safe Liberal seat held by a liberal Member.
    What happened to the big C conservatives and the Fake Moderates?

    It includes some Labor heartland areas, as well. But the newer housing estates (aspirational voters) bring it over the line. In fact, Libs increased their primary vote in that seat.

  166. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    H B Bearsays:

    May 23, 2022 at 4:54 pm

    The head of the prime minister’s department, Phil Gaetjens has taken leave, replaced by acting secretary Stephanie Foster, new Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has announced

    Take note Lieborals. That is how it is done.

    Exactly.
    Compare and contrast.
    Ted Baillieau. Elected on a promise to build East-West Link. Dithered for two and a half years, consulting and doing studies and surveys. More worried about picking out the curtains for the NGV.
    Dan Andrews. Day one after being elected you’re fucked, and by the time the next election comes around you’ve got a two year old toddler.
    No chance to abort Dan’s pet projects.

  167. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “It includes some Labor heartland areas, as well. But the newer housing estates (aspirational voters) bring it over the line. In fact, Libs increased their primary vote in that seat.”

    More confirmation that the future of the Liberal Party lies in electorates like Lindsay…..not Wentworth, not North Sydney, not Warringah, not Kooyong, not Curtin and not Mackellar.

  168. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Miltonfsays:
    May 23, 2022 at 5:01 pm
    The old left was right about a lot of things- big business, the Washington war machine for example

    The new left, having gone full fascist, is hot for big business and perpetual war.

  169. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Credlin has Turgid Tudge on next for election analysis.

  170. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    The question:

    Okay. Please step me through:

    1. Exactly how the election was rigged, including the methodology;

    The answer:

    Once that vote has been placed in the box, every step of the way is corruptible.

    ‘The vibe does not (in my view) constitute details of how.

    But KD needs proof.

    That would be nice, instead of screechy catastrophe trolling.

  171. Winston Smith Avatar

    Rosie:

    I think Monty is a teal.
    Rorts. Rorts. ICAC. Rorts.
    Can’t name a single one but they’re there.

    Monty would never be a Tea Lady.
    The trolley would never leave the kitchen until it was emptied of all the cream bikkies cocoa.

  172. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Calamity Struth at 5.31:

    That’s why the jabs were pushed so hard.
    Those who will soon die from them do not want to know the truth for love nor money

    Soon. Which in Last Holdout country is 11 to 41 months. A far more sensible commenter:

    Stop it, you sound like an A1 Fanboi and it’s fucking ridiculous.

    Well, yes. By tomorrow he’ll be back to maritime law and birth certificates.

  173. Old bloke Avatar
    Old bloke

    min says:
    May 23, 2022 at 8:33 am

    I bet majority did not really think about consequences of the enabling preferences and those who did will suffer also .

    Australian voters are, basically, very stupid people. The large vote for the Greens and their Teal cousins wasn’t, in the main, a vote for the policies of either but more of a protest vote in my opinion.

    The Greens always get the protest vote from people who aren’t inclined to support the duopoly, most of them wouldn’t know, or wouldn’t care, that their vote is passed on to Labor. The low primary vote for Labor, around 30% I’m told, normally wouldn’t move the socialists to the treasury benches, but for the large Green vote, that’s where they are headed.

    On the topic of stupid Australian voters, my wife took a phone call late last week from a friend who used to live on the Gold Coast but has now relocated to Melbourne (first sign of stupidity). The topic of the election came up and wife’s friend said that she was going to vote for Jacquie Lambie (second sign). My wife told her that she couldn’t vote for her as Jacquie Jacky was in Tasmania and she (friend) was in Victoria. The friend said that’s fine, she’ll just write Jacquie Jacky’s name on the vote and that would be adequate (third sign).

    These people do exist and they vote.

  174. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    munty … fears that he might be on the wrong side of history.

    mUnty is too stupid to realise he’s wrong

    he’s like the the dog that runs under the table when the old-man picks up the newspaper

    no idea why he’s there but absolutely sure it’s the correct place to be

  175. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Fair Shake at 6:09.
    The best scope for fraud is at source.
    That is, multiple voting at different booths, or voting on behalf of others.
    But there are some key features which distinguish us from the USA.
    .1 Their registers are state based. People who move states can register in their new state and remain registered in their original state. Ours is national and a closed system. There are controls to stop double registration.
    .2 Their system for auditing and cleansing the deceased or emigrants off the system is poor. Ours is pretty tight.
    .3 Compulsory voting with turnouts of 90%+ is more likely to capture duplicate votes than a voluntary system.
    Can the system be circumvented by determined individuals? For sure.
    Did the Fat Bastard get robbed? Don’t make me laff.

  176. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Well, life is always a matter of the personal and political being both personal and political.

    I am sitting here seriously thinking that maybe I should join the Liberal Party. How else will things change? The two minor parties I’ve supported in the last Federal elections (Australian Conservatives, and now the Liberal Democrats) have got nowhere. One is already defunct. I’ve just watched a clip from Outsiders where Liberal Senator Alex Antic is saying if there isn’t more grass roots action from the non-left perspective then the Party is totally sunk. This is especially important when it comes to preselecting new candidates who are not Party operatives but people like the LDP’s excellent Daniel Lewkovic, a businessman who got so few votes in Wentworth because noone had ever heard of him.

    Change from within is beginning to look good to me. Only way to go, because the fractured Parties of the right are in and of themselves merely gnats.

    Am I being delusional? Hairy is sleeping and may think so, as he’s never liked the Libs.
    But is it a case of means must?

    Am I just feeling optimistic because I’ve found my make-up (yay! now I have two lots!) and I’ve just emailed my friend of 40 years standing saying I will speak my mind on climate regardless so don’t even think of trying to BBC me about it (yay to that too), and we are getting the slow-leaking tyre fixed today (triple yay!)?

  177. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    Cassie of Sydney says:
    May 23, 2022 at 12:53 pm

    A federal ICAC based on the NSW model will only ever be used to bludgeon conservatives. We’ve all seen what’s gone on here in NSW with ICAC…and how, oddly, it was missing in action for the seventeen years of arguably the most venally corrupt Labor governments in NSW history…Carr, Iemma, Rees and Keneally.

    Cassie, maybe a bit of history might help. I was around for some of it, and knew some of the participants. I also worked for Sturgess/Greiner.

    Firstly, the creation of the NSW ICAC was a direct response to the rotten to the core Wran government by Sturgess and Greiner. But, like so many of their predecessors and successors, they exempted the previous government. Since the previous government had been there for a decade …

    Secondly, having dealt with both of them in those days, I can say that neither had the faintest notion that ICAC would be stacked. They were babes in the woods when it came to machine politics.

    In the US, the Constitution protects elected representatives from being monstered by unelected bodies. Time we did the same.

  178. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    In the US, the Constitution protects elected representatives from being monstered by unelected bodies. Time we did the same.

    Perhaps when citizens are afforded the same privilege.

  179. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Eyrie says:
    May 23, 2022 at 5:53 pm
    Bought the generator this arvo. Now for the transfer switch.

    What sort did you buy?

  180. 2dogs Avatar
    2dogs

    I doubt that Clive is too worried about dropping a reported $80m or thereabouts on the election.

    If the ALP guy doesn’t get that last senate spot in WA, the UAP may end up having the balance of power in the senate (remember the govt loses a vote because they provide the president).

    Meanwhile, Holmes-a-Court only got the Teals for his investment, they are completely powerless. Their only achievement is moving the coalition party room further right by taking out the wets.

  181. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    “[Lindsay] includes some Labor heartland areas, as well. But the newer housing estates (aspirational voters) bring it over the line. In fact, Libs increased their primary vote in that seat.”

    More confirmation that the future of the Liberal Party lies in electorates like Lindsay…..not Wentworth, not North Sydney, not Warringah, not Kooyong, not Curtin and not Mackellar

    .

    Kooyong, North Sydney, Curtin and Mackellar were identified as having dud representatives, the Fake Moderates.
    It’s always hard to win a seat back after a dud loses it.
    North Sydney took 3 elections to take back, the trick was to present a real liberal to the electorate, not a fake liberal.

  182. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    If voted mattered they wouldn’t let us do it.

    I thought it was interesting and sensible that Avi and Rushkan went to Davos.

    Watch the sideshow or the main event?

  183. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    In the US, the Constitution protects elected representatives from being monstered by unelected bodies. Time we did the same.
    How about we protect any citizen from being monstered by unelected bodies?

  184. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Scanning through a crank site, just for the reassurance that they’re cranks.

    A claim’s being made that a bloke died just after finishing the New York marathon, and that the cause just had to be the vaccine (naturally, nobody seems to know whether this chap was vaccinated or not).

    A quick check on other sites reveals that 57 people have died either during or just after completing a marathon (excluding events like the Boston Marathon bombing) between 1912 and yesterday.

    Age ranges were between 19 and 61. Of those, two occurred on or after June 2020.

    It’s not stopping these tweakers, though. Bless their cotton socks.

  185. calli Avatar
    calli

    More confirmation that the future of the Liberal Party lies in electorates like Lindsay…..not Wentworth, not North Sydney, not Warringah, not Kooyong, not Curtin and not Mackellar.

    But they want them to be Lib heartland for that is where they like to live.

    None of the old school movers and shakers are going to move to The Ponds or Canley Vale.

  186. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Meanwhile, Holmes-a-Court only got the Teals for his investment, they are completely powerless. Their only achievement is moving the coalition party room further right by taking out the wets.”

    Yep. I do think Svengali Simon thought he’d get to wield power and influence in a hung parliament, instead he and his chicks are powerless and amen for that.

  187. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Did the Fat Bastard get robbed? Don’t make me laff.

    That’s your strawman, old boy.
    The ALP candidate in Hinkler, Jason Scanes, didn’t get a fair go, by the looks.
    Which makes it far more likely that Labor will only make it to Minority Government.

  188. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Watch the sideshow or the main event?

    Globalism is passing.

    The future is likely nationalistic and certainly multipolar on different levels.

  189. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    there you have it, monty gets to play the mommy half the time

    Those breasts aren’t just for show….

  190. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Their only achievement is moving the coalition party room further right by taking out the wets.”
    Name any “wets” that got taken out?
    Holmes ‘a Court delivered Government to Labor singlehanded [though he had some big donors], of course Labor aren’t going to say
    “Thanks, see you in 3 years”,
    those Donors are going to get their money’s worth plus Interest forever when Albanese acts on his Mandate and legislates NetZero.

  191. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    I do not live in what conservatives would think of as a traditional family. My wife is an equal, not my chattel.

    Are you retarded? The only people who think that are our immigrants from a rich and diverse culture that has been robbing and killing people for 1300 years.

  192. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    A claim’s being made that a bloke died just after finishing the New York marathon

    Only a half marathon and the guy was 30.
    Which doesn’t say anything especially, although it’s noteworthy.

    Runner, 30, dies moments before crossing finish line of Brooklyn Half Marathon as beachgoers pack Coney Island Beach for the hottest weather EVER recorded for region in May (22 May)

    The temperature rubbish is usual Daily Mail hyperbowl, since he died at 9am in temperatures in the seventies F. It was 60 F when they started.

  193. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    But they want them to be Lib heartland for that is where they like to live.

    Which is why they’re the wrong people to run the party and stand as candidates.

    Only people who have worked in the real world five years (nb: not in a bank or big end of town) should be allowed to serve. Too many lawyers and uni trained professional pollies infest both major parties.

  194. Winston Smith Avatar

    Johanna:

    Rising interest rates hold hope for real estate prices to settle down. But inflation/stagflation? Jeepers! Getting hit from both sides. Advice?

    Gold is holding steady at the moment.
    Silver has peaked – not a lot of value there unless there’s a big re armament in high tech weaponry.
    Copper shares are worthwhile due to weapons use.
    Storable food, a genset, rainwater tank, a couple of 44s of fuel.
    But I’d go for gold in the two year timeframe.
    Join a pistol/rifle club.

  195. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    Report from Tokyo Quad Meeting.

    President Biden has introduced the new Italian PM to the PM’s of Japan and India and looks forward to their QUAD co-operation.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

  1. Ryan flies to Canberra in the most expensive business class seats every week. And she decided to run for parliament…

  2. The odious Ryan gives more proof that a major part of the ‘environmental’ movement is class warfare. Shows why the…