Australian PM’s censorship campaign has turned him into a ‘massive international joke’
Open Thread – Tues 24 May 2022
- Open Thread – Anzac Day 2024
- Open Thread – Mon 22 April 2024
- Open Thread – Weekend 21 April 2024
- Open Thread – Thurs 18 April 2024
- Open Thread – Mon 15 April 2024
Johnny Rotten April 25, 2024 4:17 pm Democrats Indicting 18 Republicans in Arizona For Claiming Trump Won 2020 Plenty of…
Neil Oliver: ‘…we’re being played by our governments over and over again!!!’
It Took Ten Years For Powerful People To See That Leftism Has Crossed A Red Line
Sharp: House Democrats are Destroying the Judicial Branch, But No One Seems to Care
1D4Chan explains everything, mole.
“Green says the count in Brisbane will exclude the four lowest-polling candidates first.
“This will determine an order for the final three candidates: LNP, Labor and the Greens,” he said.
“The preference count shown here uses a preference estimate for the first four exclusions provided to me by scrutineers. That is running at 35.1 per cent to Greens, 15.6 per cent to Labor and 49.3 per cent to LNP.””
Anthony Green explains the three way race
Socialists always need to maintain a brainwashed majority of the population.
Or at least a number who will ensure division in society.
You know this OCO….or you did.
Ask yourself why they hold the theatre of elections in Socialist countries.
Again, at one time you knew the answer.
But in comes Sancho with an obsession against Clive as if Clive has some photos of him without his undies on……….
This isn’t about Clive.
It’s about all the smaller parties pushing for freedom.
So try and keep your hang ups about one fat bloke aside for a second and ask yourself, what was most likely going to happen after the last two years?
Everyone votes out Socialism, and the socialists accept the result because they always play fair.
What planet are you guys on?
You can vote Socialism and communism in, but you can’t vote it out.
Even when they hold elections.
Funny that.
Next thing you’ll be telling me they all got the guilts for ignoring the constitution and bringing in the NWO agenda of the Davos mobsters and have offered themselves to the courts for the people to decide their fates.
Imagine what a government run by the Greens would be like:
The Victorian Greens have accused the Andrews government of sleepwalking towards a health crisis, urging them to unveil a new campaign promoting mask use ahead of winter.
Herald-Sun probably paywalled
Local school showed the students the film “Rabbit proof Fence’ so many times, the kids couldn’t care less about the “Stolen Generation.”
GreyRanga
You can guarantee the data centre delivers every bit of data to Beijing.
You can guarantee the Raskols have long since stolen or vandalised all the cameras.
True, but not in the way they think.
Ramping crisis in Melbourne’s hospital system ‘not unusual’ says Ambulance Victoria (11 May)*
Alarming figures show ambulance ramping rise in QLD (26 May)
I thought it amusing that Labor went full health system champion in the election campaign when they were manifestly failing abjectly in the Labor states. Numerous signs in my electorate that “only Labor can maintain after hours GP access!” Yet ambulance ramping is um, rampant in Yarragrad and Polygirlistan.
* There’s also a story in the Hun today too, but since it’s paywalled I’ve linked an early Nein News one instead.
Speaking of close electoral counts, it just proves how every vote can count (although it actually doesn’t usually matter).
99% of Cats know of my tainted Labor history and how I worked for a regional MP who was a Minister on the other side as well… every Sunday after an election he’d be in (and won) he’d have the local maps out of towns and suburbs in his electorate, and he’d be door knocking from Day 1 for four years. Did it every, single, day (except the usual family holiday times).
He gathered, if he could knock on 30 doors a day, he could get close to the 40K-50K voters he needed to reach… That’s how you stay in Parliament for well over a decade!
…and while his electorate was 100’s of kms away from city centre, every Thursday after Parliament rose, he’d drive back, one week stopping at one town to spend the night at the local and next local, next week a different town and different local…
Daily Mail.
Just watching The Five and their analysis of the obscene failure by the school and police authorities before and during the Texas school shooting. What they know is the bastard went in an unlocked door at the back of the school. There was no armed guards or initial contact between the bastard and any security. After he entered the class-room and started shooting local police were on the scene within 4 minutes and entered the school. They were fired at by the bastard and retreated outside while the bastard continued to shoot. They waited outside and did nothing for an hour, a fucking hour until a Swat team arrived entered the class room immediately and shot dead the bastard. During that hour distraught parents were prevented from going into the school to assist what may have been badly wounded children who could possibly have been saved within that hour period.
During all this the demorat scum and anti-gun rats have been blaming gun culture. These are the same scum who have overseen a breakdown in social values so that the diseased young men who do these deeds are not removed from society. All of the recent shooters have been under 20, of all ethnic groups, black, chunk, white and hispanic, left a record of declared intentions and psychological problems which were ignored. But more then that the same scum have overseen a breakdown of the family unit so that all these young diseased young men had no father figure in their life.
My first ever car accident at speed was due to this. Bus blocked the traffic lights on the right, with tree branches blocking those on the left. I saw them green, then they changed to amber when I couldn’t see them. Suddenly cars are starting to cross and I’m doing 60kph. Not injured, but a complete wrote off. There are two sets of lights for a reason.
It must be something to do with stupid, but rabid, lefties. Over at CL’s blog, Homer has now started “you lotting”!
In all honesty, Struth, you sound more naive about the transformative capability of elections than me.
Was told by owe truck driver the other day that his Palliative nurse wife was sneeking family members in.
Respect!
Coulda been worse; he coulda been shot in the head region, or the heart region, or …
(Paywalled)
Twitter is all a-flutter about the bogus- and by bogus, I mean failed at multiple levels- “asylum seeker” family going “Home to Biloela”.
Keneally must be spitting chips. Bridesmaid, again.
There is a lot of crazy shit coming out at the moment, then this:
Lysander, that may work for someone already elected, you get paid to do it. Not realistic for someone trying to get elected the first time.
With every school shooting, the pantomime cranks up again. All of the usual suspects start caterwauling about how this must be the last straw, that now something simply must be done, dialling up the emotional appeals to eleventy. And it’s always going to meet a wall of implacable resistance. There are way too many gun owners who are hyper-opposed to the merest whiff of federal efforts to curb 2A. I don’t blame them, given that those claiming to merely seek ‘sensible’ and ‘responsible’ gun ownership law reform are thoroughly disingenuous.
The fact is that the Union will not survive a meaningful gun grab.
lol
Never heard of Biloela before, wonders if it is somewhere in Srilanka or Australia.
Biloela
QLD has a shire called Banana. WTF!
Geller adds more evidence against the cops in the Texas shooting:
https://gellerreport.com/2022/05/texas-school-shooter-fired-outside-school-for-12-minutes-before-entering.html/
From Dover’s link above:
“That gunman would have had an opportunity to kill other people inside that school.” Wow. So they left him there for an HOUR. Bit of an opportunity there I reckon. FMD
In all honesty, you came up with that?
No that’s right, there’s never been fraudulent elections held anywhere and they wouldn’t do it in Australia because we don’t do that sort of thing here, it’s all above board.
What was I thinking?!
I’m having a debate with a couple of fucking lefties over at the Spec about the Texas shooting. Feel free to wade in:
https://spectator.com.au/2022/05/the-texas-school-shooting-wont-change-a-thing/
Neither would the Democrats, it is one of their perennial cudgels with which to beat the Republicans. The last thing they want is for guns to go away.
Interesting.
Must be a real bitch when you spend a bunch of time, money and imagination framing some sap on a bunch of juicy conspiracy charges, only for them to flip out and go and turn the conspiracy that you helped them dream up into a reality before you can make the bust! All that hard work down the drain. Oh well, time to move on. There are plenty more potential criminals to create.
You missed the point, but that’s fine. Carry on.
Something happened somewhere so it must be true this time.
And thumping whitefella with the didgeridoo nulla-nulla on the way home.
The Republicans love it, as ‘standing firm on gun rights’ gives them a chance to not look like pussies, even though the issue is well above their pay grade.
That’s what the Internet is for.
AFL has become totally gay, as the young would put it.
When people hear that police sat outside an active situation, it’s hard to convince them that they can give away their firearms and rely on the police. Just saying.
Word wall at 4:16.
Fails to explain how the Big Steal actually is supposed to have been done.
Frank says: May 27, 2022 at 5:30 pm
It’s a reasonable sized shire 12,000 square miles or so, larger shires than that have been merged into each other. It is a rich area.
Named for the (former) main town of …. Banana. (Named after a much loved yellow bullock who died at what became the Banana waterhole, in the olden days)
The town of Banana has quite a nice pub.
Biloela has been the shire capital since forever. When I was a kid it was a fairly major town that was often heard mention of. It was chic to know someone who lived there.
Even the RINOest-y of RINOs won’t dare be seen to mess with 2A rights. With the exception of those like Adam Kinzinger who are serving out their terms and have richly-remunerated DC sinecures to parachute into.
A mate of mine, hate to say it, a greenie, (but lived the life). Got himself elected to a regional council by door knocking and asking people what they were concerned about, none of the saving the planet, just common sense stuff. This was before the greens were inner-city scum. He did what he said he would and got re-elected. That in contrast to my scumbag BiL backing a scumbag scammer who managed to worm his way into the greens with money. They were quite happy to have him coz money and a step in the door. None of the other parties would touch him and he tried.
SFW
Fair call. But he did get elected first, once.
It would now appear (as mentioned by quite a few, and rightly so) that the Texas cops waited. For an hour. This is exact opposite of training in law enforcement delivered in Western countries after the Broward County shooting a few years back.
Correct. The mantra is ‘stop the killing, and stop the dying’. That is what they are there for.
Cowardly horseshit. That is not what they are there for. Whether the cops get killed is not the point. They are (supposed to be) there for other people.
This explanation, whenever it comes, had better have sparkles on it. Not that it will be good enough, even then.
Zipster:
China Insights
You know, it just occurred to me – what is the stuff they are spraying?
It shouldn’t be too hard to get a sample.
If we really wanted to get back at the Communists, we could let the rumour float that the spray is just scented water with no antiviral/antibacterial properties whatsoever.
Perhaps they would get busy keeping their hands off PNG and the arc of islands to our north. Let the islanders go their own way.
Is Biloela the Fitzroy of Melbourne?
Named for Banana Station, the original Cattle property in the district.
One of the first towns to Fluoridate their water supply and the Alum in the water doesn’t do your guts much good either.
The Murugappan family won’t stay long, and the Biloela churches will lose half their congregations, if they haven’t already.
Explanation given this morning was they were waiting for tactical response.
Reportedly, a border patrol officer intervened and shot the perpetrator dead.
It’s just like the Parkland school shooting. There’s a lot of truth in the maxim that ‘when seconds count, the police are only minutes away’. However, in cases like these, it turns out that when the police literally are seconds away, well….they may as well be on the Moon. You’re on your own. But keep dialling the emergency number, as I’m sure yet another operator will appreciate hearing the screams of victims being blown away by someone who clearly didn’t notice the ‘gun free zone’ signs. If only he’d been more observant!
I did a job at Moura where we flew in & out of Thangool on DHC8’s, great pub with backpackers there too but I digress as I was young then. Used to get supplies at Biloela before heading down the Dawson Hwy. Sleepy town, conservative too. Hard to see the illegals having overwhelming support after being found 7 times not legit. Dunno but would say probably a lot who don’t wish them ill round there but quietly don’t agree with the pedestal they have been put on.
If they have been released from CI that sends a bad message. Will also embolden a judge who has had some of the most woeful decisions going as well.
I don’t think the Murugappan family will stay long either.
The family has been living in Perth for a couple of years iirc.
Jupes:
This has only just surfaced for me, the elections have drowned out most of the the news.
Is there a picture or a video link somewhere? I don’t seem to be able to find it.
A single border patrol officer was sufficient so their explanation that they had to wait even though there were several officers already on the scene is pathetic.
Nope 11 months.
Early days, but it seems so.
Thankfully, the border officer wasn’t under police command.
True that, vicarious testes enlargement.
On other matters, I don’t care about the history of some bullock back in antiquity, Banana is a fucking stupid name.
Like many institutions this century, the police have been broken by political correctness and no longer carry out their core function; to protect the public.
They can get around it by restricting the amount of ammo like they do in California, Oco.
That will depend on the conditions imposed in their visa.
It’s not clear they’re being granted residency yet (unless I’ve missed soemthing)…indeed, I don’t see how they can be given the findings already made against the man’s claims. Then again, it’s a Labor government exploiting an emotional issue.
Seems you can be morally pure and dead or part of the problem and live. I know what I would do.
Bullshit.
Yeah, that was the first version of events I heard as well. The reporting on this thing’s been a bit Ukraine-y.
He was most definitely not a stupid bullock, or the waterhole would have have been named after him.
The name sorta stuck coz the other bullockys referred to it as the place where ‘Banana’ had passed on.
This is what happens when ordinary people name something.
Be thankful that the early explorers had a classical education, or half the country would be named “Place where I tripped on a log” or “Creek where Jacko drowned”
And ongoing. Hard to deny.
Yeah, that’s why I’m qualifying everything.
The report they were waiting for tactical response came from the local police dept. though.
They were on Christmas Island, but one of the children needed medical treatment, so they’ve been in “community detention” – whatever that is – in Perth.
Perhaps.
There’s anarchy in Sri Lanka at the moment, so the Liberals weren’t sending them back either.
What explains “Poowong”?
Ahahaha, hahaha, bwahhahaha… …. guffaw guffaw guffaw.. hee hee hehehehe hehe tee hee hee.
Visa conditions. Lol x 1000 times.
ALP enforce a visa condition on a freeloader? hahahaha.. hahah tee hee hee hee… [hold my tummy coz it hurts] hahahah haha aahahahaahah
Here you go Winston:
https://www.afl.com.au/video/768237/behind-the-scenes-tigers-epic-laguntas-dance-at-dreamtime?videoId=768237&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1653603886001
LOL
much loved … bullock
Total clown.
Which is a fair call atm, but not a qualifier for residency.
Ta, Zulu and que surprise at the reason to gain access to the mainland.
You are right, Roger at this stage still bridging visas.
The Uvalde Sheriff dept have been on CNN saying;
1. they dived for cover when the shooter plinked a few rounds in their general direction
2. they had to do this coz being shot puts officers in danger
3. they called for lotsa support, snipers, swat, etc. so it’s not the local coppers fault.
4. the police were busy forcibly keeping parents away from the school, so it’s not as if they weren’t doing anything while they waited for backup.
5. the shooter was contained in just the one classroom – so no big deal anyway.
6. Most of the gunfire was done early in the piece (presumably the gunman ran out of targets) this means there wasn’t much to gain by engaging with him anyway.
7. the bloke who did turn up & shoot the killer was grazed himself on the scalp, this proves the gunman was dangerous & the Deputies did the right thing by hiding from him.
The facts seem to be:
1. the gunman was firing for Twelve minutes before he entered the building.
2. the gunman was inside the building for another hour.
Looks like they’ve been granted a bridging visa A type, which will have work rights attached but likely limited to a sponsoring employer in Bilo in this case. Moving elsewhere without prior adjustment of those conditions would put them in breach.
2022 BMW iX price and specs: M60 inbound from $222,900
The BMW iX luxury electric SUV range will expand in mid-2022 with an M60 performance variant, priced from $222,900 plus on-road costs – $53,000 more than the next model down.
Powering the car are dual electric motors and a 112kWh battery pack, which send 455kW and 1100Nm to all four wheels for a 3.8-second 0-100km/h sprint time, and 566km of claimed electric range.
The entire Uvalde Sheriff dept should get some disguise tips from Justin Trudeau & get the hell out of Texas asap.
While they still can.
Roger, I have never seen that condition enforced. Ever.
For a high profile case that was a sticky election issue, they’ll be untouchable.
They could shoot someone dead on Lygon street, in full view, & not be deported now.
It happens, Sal. Let’s just say they’d be well advised to stay put in Bilo.
Public sentiment can turn quite quickly in such matters.
From memory, this mob have had SEVEN attempts to gain asylum rejected.
3.8-second 0-100km/h sprint time
Dead pedestrians as the rich old codgers driving lack the reflexes to handle the acceleration.
It’s even worse than that. This is one of the links I put in the wrong thread this morning.
This is what the police were doing while they were waiting
it’s a re-pub-lic
Apparently there’s a nasty meme going around on social media, it’s a picture showing the face of Morrison plastered on the body of a Scottish terrier and the heading is “Have you seen Scottie”. A friend of mine has a leftist friend who sent her the meme. Now my friend has asked this person not to to send her political stuff, she has told this leftist friend that she votes Liberal…and they must agree to disagree but clearly so many on the left are gloating since last Saturday night and because, as we know, the left just love being nasty. Anyway, my friend was furious, returned fire and sent back the following message…..
“And the other great news is that Kristina Keneally lost badly and hasn’t wasted any time running away from Fowler back to leafy Scotland Island”
Her lefty friend has been silent since.
In other words, you have to return fire.
It’s even worse than that. This is one of the links I put in the wrong thread this morning.
Below from Ace, Texas cops not looking good… Comments fill in the blanks drawn from across the net and aren’t very positive. I’d say given the anger Biden’s Monday visit will be very sterile and stage managed to keep the plebs away…
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=399307
Same issue in the Camry. Unless you get the beige one and put your bowls hat on the parcel shelf.
Don’t want to get the Today Tonight crowd offside.
I don’t think the Murugappan family will stay long either.
Ya gotta be kiddin’! .. AnAl has jus given em “unofficial” citizenship .. the “bridging” visas are just fodder for the vote-herd to chew on .. these scum will be here for-bloody-ever!.. sooo untouchable & protected even the 251s will be jealous .. FFS!
They were on Christmas Island, but one of the children needed medical treatment
They and their “bleedin’ ‘eart” advisors played the “Phelps” rubbish act for all it was worth!.. kid only spent 3 days in hospital and required no emergency/specialized treatment .. upset tummies and kids are quite normal especially when there is emotive advantage ..!
Shades on “Innaloo” in Perth.
Speaking of which I can’t remember seeing anything about the Ukraine on the TV (nein) news this week.
Please put your money where your mouth is and do it…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10859727/Yassmin-Abdel-Magied-ditch-Australian-citizenship-lest-forget-Facebook-row.html
They shouldn’t have working rights, that just takes a job [or jobs] from an Australian.
Social Security payments are good enough, though given their Case has wasted million$$ of Legal Aid Buck$$ in the Courts, with more to follow, why not offer them, say $3 grand a month til the day they die to go back to Sri Lanka all expenses paid on a cruise ship.
Then ban them from ever entering Australia again?
She won’t because that would mean losing too many victim points
She could always go back to the Sudan…
Hold on there with flinging Scum around, tiger.
Didn’t you admit to stealing from your employer whilst a lad in County Durham?
H1 wheat $530 a tonne…
Sorry not trying to threadbomb but imagine this, Patron: hey mate can I borrow your shotty to rescue my kid, Barber: Sure mate its under the counter
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10858885/Hero-CBP-cop-rushed-Texas-massacre-school-shotgun-teacher-wife-texted-Help.html
In all the sadness there’s some legends there including a mother…
Polish tanks spotted in Romania and moving towards the Ukrainian border
Roger, I’ve seen that visa condition breached at least ten times, possibly much more.
I’ve never seen it enforced. One immigration agent assures me he’s seen it enforced twice, however he’s seen far more breaches & far worse breaches, than I’ve seen, without any enforcement.
Immi usually flatly refuse to enforce, and become quite hostile toward anyone who reminds them of breaches, especially if they provide evidence of significant breach.
Immi were quite hot tempered toward me – empty threat, though I did cease contacting the “Visa Breach Team”, & sometimes wonder what would have happened had I pushed the issue any further.
The shop next door to me were subjected to an obtuse & intrusive audit by Immi, however they had provided rock solid evidence of deliberate breach – thus in Immi’s eyes had to be punished, and so they were.
The Bilo Bludgers have more chance of winning the Stawell Gift than they do of being deported.
Reminds me of the Lindt Cafe debacle. They got their female commish, but not the bint responsible for that fuckup, thank goodness.
Tin of Kool Mints in the console. Six packets of tissues, also strategically placed.
Uvalde has always been a wild place, it was the hometown of the
Newton Gang, legendary bank and train robbers of the 1920s.
Link includes 1980 Johnny Carson interview with Joe Newton.
Never mind the Bullock, Here’s the Sex Pistols
I crack myself up sometimes
Thanks
She claims to do speaking engagements in the US.
If she renounces her Australian citizenship, the fallback is Sudanese citizenship.
The bar for getting into the US would be set somewhat higher.
She’s full of shit.
From Rockdoctor’s link:
If those jacks aren’t hiding in Alaska now, they’d fucking well better be.
Spain passes bill to term all non-consensual sex as rape | Big win for women’s right in Spain | WION
Two Commando had built a replica of the Lindt Cafe and worked out the tactics to storm the place…Didn’t the P.M. offer the Army?
Wasn’t there a “training exercise” happening in the vicinity that day?
What are the odds … ?
“Two Commando had built a replica of the Lindt Cafe and worked out the tactics to storm the place…Didn’t the P.M. offer the Army?”
NSW Police didn’t want the army involved. A total disgrace and a monumental fuck up.
The years have not been kind.
Comforting to know that Islam is the most feminist of religions so she’ll have no trouble finding an Islamic bloke happy to cook and clean while her deranged rants find an ever smaller public.
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
May 27, 2022 at 6:29 pm
The entire Uvalde Sheriff dept should get some disguise tips from Justin Trudeau & get the hell out of Texas asap.
That’s Justine Castro, thank you.
One way of getting out of the parade…
‘They were just standing outside the fence. They weren’t going in there or running anywhere.’
They’re Latino, it was midday and hot.
New South Wales police were too afraid of the backlash in certain Western Sydney seats?
Jorge says: May 27, 2022 at 7:45 pm
Jorge, the article does say she is now married to a pom.
Zipster says:
May 27, 2022 at 7:39 pm
Spain passes bill to term all non-consensual sex as rape | Big win for women’s right in Spain | WION
“Honey, let’s have another baby”
Does that qualify?
So the hat on the shelf is a no-no?
Those Seven (soon to be former) Guardsmen are super fucked.
Hope they like the weather in Colchester.
Rockdoctor says: May 27, 2022 at 7:23 pm
First comment under the linked article:
First comment under the linked article:
geez1066, stoke on trent, United Kingdom, about a minute ago
I would of said he was a hero but then you read he borrowed a shotgun , its insane that he can just borrow a shotgun ! The U.S. gun laws need changing !
Indeed, how dare he try to rescue his kid. And how dare someone help him.
munty will be here soon, blowing foam through his mustache.
A more sensible pom weighs in with this very apt comment:
From “The Age,”
I remember reading one of the things to come out of the subsequent investigation was the on scene commander was too busy getting her face in front of the cameras to make any decisions. There was a great deal of work done to get a clear chain of command after that.
Roger:
It’d be worth knowing if the Police were being ordered by a Democrat or a Republican Mayor, remembering that a lot of cities in Texas have core Democrat centers with Republican outskirts.
It’s looking like Uvalde has a Democrat government, but they’ve just had an election.
I wonder what the Police Department policies were?
On the Lindt Cafe seige. An ex army mate says the rumours 2 Cdo were ready to go aren’t just that, he said that they have teams ready to go at a moments notice and exercise like they did with Lindt on all potential hostage situations. Problem was one time when NSW should have handed the lot to the Fed’s ego’s got involved, Premier was never going to allow it and apparently Police as well.
This one is a rumour though, mate says 2 Cdo offered to dress as Police to mask the fact that they were the gunslingers and allow NSW cops to accept the praise. Flatly turned down…
Jupes:
Thanks for the link.
That’s a bloody disgrace.
I hope someone puts a frigging windmill in the middle of that park.
That was one of the things that had me laughing about the planned attack on Holsworthy barracks. Those blokes would’ve been all “home delivery?!?!?!!! Oh yes please!”
Good morning from the Pig Stye. Oink, oink.
I see that Winston says:
But I am feeling pessimistic this morning. I think the worse things get the more people will look to ‘governments, them etc’ to ‘fix’ it, and that is exactly the road to perdition – socialism rises again.
Unless the Liberals can do a smart reverse and destroy the climate cult with as much enthusiasm and reality as they can must. And what is the hope of that right now, as prices rise, electricity falters and wages do not keep pace with anything? Socialism here we come.
Gather ye rosebuds, I say from the beauty of the pig stye, an indication that things can change after all. We are off to see York Minister, which has survived a lot of eras of stupidity, thus hope always lies there. And the pleasures of the countryside still exist in this beautiful land on a fine Spring morning.
Fun trivia fact:
Uvalde, Texas, is the hometown of well-known actor Matthew McConaughey, the town where he was born, and where he lived until he went to high school.
No doubt mistakes were made on the night of the Lindt siege, but there were a couple of massive precursor fuck-ups:-
.1 He should not have been in the country; and
.2 He should not have been on bail.
On the Lindt Cafe seige. An ex army mate says the rumours 2 Cdo were ready to go aren’t just that, he said that they have teams ready to go at a moments notice and exercise like they did with Lindt on all potential hostage situations.
The Tactical Assault Group East and West (TAG) are a specialised anti terrorism special forces unit (part of 2 Cdo) on duty 24/7 and the type of operation required at the Lindt Cafe is one of their specialties. They train every day in the art of blowing in doors and eliminating the bad guys…
“.1 He should not have been in the country; and
.2 He should not have been on bail.”
Correct.
Winston Smith says: May 27, 2022 at 8:02 pm
The only information I can find, from a quick scanty search, is that Uvalde county has voted Republican for the past fourteen presidential elections & thus in 2020 voted Trump (by an increased margin than it did in 2016)
Bluey,
My dad was Army. I grew up around the green, there was always guard rooms access to weapons, someone within call to authorise a response. These things are standard across the world with standing armies. Nowadays things are much more complex with our BS state gun laws that the Fed’s have never bothered to exempt the ADF totally from.
Authorising the ADF in a state is well more complex but possible. I spent the first years of my life in Holsworthy, dad was posted there and I still have family in SW Sydney so know the place well. Lucky then Holsworthy had that narrow railway bridge as access or the back gate from Moorebank rd which is well away from anywhere. LOL good luck to some fat Leb’s softened by welfare in that fight though…
munty will be here soon, blowing foam through his mustache.
He has a moustache on his arse?
Lizzie, it’s pigsty, not pig stye, which is a blister on a pig’s eye.
The Tactical Assault Group East and West (TAG) are a specialised anti terrorism special forces unit (part of 2 Cdo) on duty 24/7 and the type of operation required at the Lindt Cafe is one of their specialties. They train every day in the art of blowing in doors and eliminating the bad guys…
No matter how good these guys are, they’re pushing shit up hill because they’re coming into the situation and trying to sort it out.
If they go in when they should. Time and time again we’ve seen police trained to varying degrees stall when their time came. This isn’t a criticism of them, it’s a reflection of human nature, the more time you’ve had to think about it, the harder it is to get going.
This is why CCW is a good idea. Get shit stopped before it starts, and without the stall factor. Human nature is working for the CCW holder, because they’ve had a situation develop around them and are fighting for their life.
A couple of things the wallopers did and said during the Lindt Cafe muslim terrorist attack:
1 The police commander who held off ordering tactical officers to storm the Lindt cafe until after hostage Tori Johnson was killed has told an inquest gunman Man Haron Monis “had the same rights as anyone else”, prompting the victim’s mother to charge out of the courtroom, calling the officer “an absolute disgrace”.
2 Six hours into the Lindt cafe siege, while hostages feared for their lives, NSW police launched Operation Hammerhead, deploying officers because they were worried about the potential for what they termed “bias crime” against the Muslim community. Just over an hour after Lindt cafe manager Tori Johnson and mother of three Katrina Dawson were killed — Dawson by police gunfire — NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione tasked an assistant commissioner to work with the community on “bias-crime vulnerabilities”.
Most cops are not your friend. The yanks have the right idea, in the 2nd.
Oh no!
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/nbn-claims-musk-s-starlink-is-wrecking-its-business-as-telcos-slam-price-hikes-20220525-p5aog6.html
Anyway…
Dickless uptick.
CCW with reasonable people doing the carrying allows the bloke/s involved at the time to use instinct and, if any, training (not range training, other training). And common sense.
A hasty yet planned response will always, always involve someone at the back trying to think thirteen steps ahead so they can negate claims of ‘they went in too quick’ from the family of the soon-to-be-dead shitrat, and their $5K a day barrister at the inquest.
I have heard the proverbial trigger was not pulled on Man Monis as it was feared he had explosives rigged to a dead man switch.
From no bullshit reliable sources.
cohenite’s point (2) above is a perfect example of the high-end jacks’ thought process, and illustrates the point I was attempting to make.
The police commander who held off ordering tactical officers to storm the Lindt cafe until after hostage Tori Johnson was killed has told an inquest gunman Man Haron Monis “had the same rights as anyone else”, prompting the victim’s mother to charge out of the courtroom, calling the officer “an absolute disgrace”
Grabbing the nearest cops weapon and drilling the fucker would have also been an entirely reasonable response.
Just over an hour after Lindt cafe manager Tori Johnson and mother of three Katrina Dawson were killed — Dawson by police gunfire
Because the brave police fuckheads insist on using .223’s inside buildings instead of 9mm. The AFP Mongs still walk around Melbourne Airport with .223’s. If those shitheads ever open up they’re going to need dump trucks to cart away the bodies from ricochets and penetration of walls.
“2 Six hours into the Lindt cafe siege, while hostages feared for their lives, NSW police launched Operation Hammerhead, deploying officers because they were worried about the potential for what they termed “bias crime” against the Muslim community.”
I remember that night watching Sky and they had Chris Kenny and the execrable resident of Scotland Island on covering the siege, along with some others. Anyway, Ms Scotland Island brought up the shocking, absolutely shocking news she’d just received that some Muslim women on a train had been verbally abused, and how terrible and shocking that news was and that there was a tweet going around #I’ll ride with you and how everybody should retweet that. Well Chris Kenny slapped her down good and hard, stating that there are people being held hostage and that our focus should be with them. But that exchange perfectly encapsulates the left, they’re more concerned with imagined Muslim victims than the real victims held hostage by a Muslim.
Lance Franklin, not very smart.
Just socked a Tiger in the jaw.
rickw says: May 27, 2022 at 8:46 pm
There’s gotta be a reason cops do not carry weapons into the courthouse (from what I’ve seen they must leave their guns in the station).
They look sorta funny with an empty Glock holster on their hip.
I have heard the proverbial trigger was not pulled on Man Monis as it was feared he had explosives rigged to a dead man switch.
From no bullshit reliable sources.
Initially maybe; but intel received during the seige and observations of him repudiated that. Astoundingly they did not search his unit so there was still a lingering fear of a bomb.
The cops fucked up from start to woe; they rescued not one citizen and their use of M4A1 heavy with 5.56mm rounds when every other experienced counter-terrorism unit in the world would use MP5 or similar with 9mm hollow point ammunition, killed the lawyer lady and wounded some of their own.
I met the bint. Everyone was highly unimpressed. Everything for her went through a filter of “what’s in it for me?”, which is the worst kind of person you want in charge of a life or death situation. Her career justifiably ended that day.
FOX Business’ Lydia Hu reports on Elon Musk getting sued by Twitter investors for delayed disclosure of stake.
I’ve been wondering about this lately. I don’t think they (the left) care about anyone (the muslims) in particular, it is more about brand differentiation. For want of a better word they view themselves in relation to the bogans, the true object of scorn, and most of their behaviour can be explained as a way of letting everyone know that they are better than that. In other words, twee and solipsistic while superficially exhibiting symptoms of concern.
Totally normal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89-VMLQLKzY
It doesn’t surprise me at all. To be fair, blame goes way beyond who was in charge at the time. My dad turned down a superintendent job handed to him on a platter primarily because it was too political. He even left the city never to go back simply because of the bullshit.
I know a bloke wot knows a bloke, and he says “Used to do this all the time in Iraq. Shotgun to take the hinges off the door, chummy gets a double tap into the chest to teach him manners, and we’d be back on base before the pogo’s had scoffed all the corn flakes, in the mess.”
Razorfist does Beto O’Rourke’s latest hi-jinx for anyone that is interested.
Cargo cultists across the Pacific are busy devouring those many tins of Ozzie spam that have been dumped on them recently (or they would be if capable of figuring out “the key”).
“We love Winxi Xi Pooh, even if he no longer exists big time in this life!”
“Ozzies, you know what to do!”
“Because of the Klimate, mate, lets have some much more manana!”
“You and your long suffering taxpayers know it makes sense!” 🙂
Feelings over facts.
Trouble is; facts don’t care about your feelings (Ben Shapiro).
No probs bro.
‘digineous round.
Albansleazey is the only argument needed when contesting the utterly absurd concept that is “compulsory voting”, aka the “universal franchise”.
Thanks for treating us like grown ups, you staggeringly stupid ol’ patronising puffballs. 😡
The deadman switch was put about as a smokescreen after the cock-up.
They knew within minutes of the first escapes from the cafe that he didn’t have explosives rigged up that way.
Ab-so-bloody-lutely.
Disappointed to learn Helen Clark is still around.
Albo and the Labor Party – dealing with the issues that really matter…
She recently married a British Muslim man who, she says very firmly, remains as private as her hair.
They’d be first cousins then.
Snaggle toothed old malignancy.
Authorising the ADF in a state is well more complex but possible.
TAG was specifically formed for DOMESTIC terrorism actions…
No matter how good these guys are, they’re pushing shit up hill because they’re coming into the situation and trying to sort it out.
I watched the NSW cops jack-march into that cafe and I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. I have seen TAG E in action and they would have had 6 in there and double tapping the baddies before the first copper got in there.
Shotgun to take the hinges off the door
TAG uses explosives. From approaching the door to several of them being inside is less than 10 seconds… closer to 5.
I did watch the footage of NSW coppers faffing around at the door, and thinking all the hostages would probably be dead….
I am old enough to remember Julie when she was loyal deputy to Malcolm Turnbull, Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull (first time round), Brendan Nelson, Andrew Peacock, Malcolm Fraser, Sir William McMahon, Harold Holt, Sir Robert Menzies, etc, etc (h/t Mark Steyne)
Vogue Australia
With the help of Estée Lauder, Julie Bishop plans her day for simplicity and beauty.
Remember that real life isn’t Jack Reacher.
We’re sounding like armchair experts, without remembering that as soon as someone kicks in a door, you can count on the bad guy playing his endgame, towards hostages as well as the good guys with guns.
And, the mistakes that might be made by the good guys with guns, on the bounce, on the move, making decisions on the fly. No amount of training or simulations can iron out the nerves and adrenaline.
Personally: sniper. 99.9% sure, 99.9% safe.
And, as far as moral hazard goes, if intelligence told me that the perp had a history of violence, sketchy mental health, or had said the “allen’s snackbar” magic spell, then I’d take the shot myself, no qualms.
That’s a great Steyn flashback, P. Good lord that bloke can write, and he’s covering seven continents and all four estates constantly too.
AKA “Jukie Bishopon” before whose knobbly knees preying mantises have bowed down upon for many, many moons while learning their sacred trade.
Inspirational addresses, she was not known for.
Or anything else for that matter.
Magnifique …
The original and the best. 🙂
Eating their partners head while copulating?
Soak into this …
The Original … 🙂
Sisters …
Franklin at the SCG.
Hardly touched the leather in the first half. Punched Cotchin (who is very fucking punchable) got reported.
Then finished up with five. Three in the last quarter. 12 possessions I think, not counting the punch.
Was awarded the trophy for BOG.
Swans won by a goal when Richmond fucked up after being 5 goals up at one stage.
Tribunal night – will probably just get a fine – because bleck round and ‘im bleck
Remember that real life isn’t Jack Reacher.
Don’t agree with your post. Realistic training and significant repetition is central to success. The TAG has a kill house that is rebuilt every night and the doors blasted down every day. They fire thousands of rounds every week. Their training is specific, targeted and superb. If you haven’t seen them you wouldn’t understand. They have simulations of bad and good guys, kids, mothers inside every day and the inside of the house is changed every day. The position and location of all inside people vary every time.
When they reach a door they place adhesive explosives immediately, turn their back and fire it within 2 seconds and are inside within another 2 seconds. The surprise element is mind blowing and they are firing targeted bullets before anyone in that room even knows what has happened. The whole focus is surprise, endless training and retraining for errors and speed. They are truly the best of the best. Concern about errors or the dangers CANNOT be an element in their thinking. That is not their role.
Toads – the ALPFL – Why?
Spot on Digger.
The sneering Jack Reacher comment was a bit ordinary.
Dunno Rabz – the AFL over years has become so woke and fucked up the competition.
Ya can’t even yell abuse at the umpire anymore because they have a hotline for people to dob you in so brown people in hi-viz security vests can evict you. Unless you’re a thirteen year old girl having a dig at Goodes (famous AOTY) then you’ll be locked up in the bowels of the ‘G.
No, this is not Chrissy H and the Pretenders live circa 1983
It is way way better … 🙂
Then walk away, Squire.
I gave up on the ALPFL the moment Apeman Goodes pointed out the 13 year old girl for some “special treatment”.
It always was an abortion of a game anyway, being as it was from bloody victoria. 😡
Can’t walk away until Collingwood bash Caaarrton this arvo.
Carna Pies 🙂
It was described to me by one bloke as he knew he was ready when he sprinted through the killhouse, went back and checked the targets, and each one had a neat double tap in the head.
There is a phenomenal amount of practice constantly.