Open Thread – Tues 24 May 2022


Expulsion from the Garden of Eden, Thomas Cole, 1828

2,187 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 24 May 2022”

  1. dover0beach Avatar

    If the Libs had any brains, they’d stop bleating about winning back the rich, climate change-obsessed doctor’s wives, whose defection conventional wisdom attributes to their loss, and start planning their outreach to the FIFO/tradie classes.

    How about we try to cut a set of policies that can maximize both without compromising our principles? A way the Coalition could have tried to do that re workers and doctor’s wives over the last decade was through nuclear energy. It squibbed it because it was too weak to make the argument.

  2. dover0beach Avatar

    Joel Fischer ??
    @realJoelFischer
    Huge:
    @TheView
    settles with Rittenhouse for $22 million and a formal apology.

    Not tired of winning yet

    h/t: Gab

  3. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    A way the Coalition could have tried to do that re workers and doctor’s wives over the last decade was through nuclear energy. It squibbed it because it was too weak to make the argument.

  4. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    What I find interesting is that not one Major Media outlet has raised the fact that the shooter Salvador Ramos appears to be a Trannie – has DemoCrap Transgender forcing created a Mental Unstable

    From Comments in – https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/05/24/horrific-elementary-school-shooting-in-ulvalde-texas-14-students-killed-and-one-teacher/

    I’ve seen this picture in very few places … is it being scrubbed from the web to protect those identified as gender fluid?

    https://citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/salvador-ramos-trans.jpg

  5. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Neil Mitchell this morning purchased an EV, lives in Warnambool. Charges at home – 24 hrs from empty to full.

    Good luck with that.

    Driving law changes: All home EV chargepoints will need smart chargers from next month (25 May)

    The Government regulations come into effect on June 30, and are intended to help manage the strain on the National Grid with thousands of electric cars charging at once. These set out minimum standards for all home and workplace chargepoints sold in England, Scotland and Wales from that date, whereas previous rules had only applied to units funded by OZEV grant schemes.

    So whenever there’s “strain on the National Grid” your charger will be remotely turned off. Which at very least means the evening and morning peaks. Thus instead of about 14 hours of charging after getting home from work you might get 8: from 10pm to 6am.

  6. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    ‘Ricky Gervais: SuperNature’ Review: Gloriously Inappropriate, Perfectly Wrong

    Ricky Gervais is rich and famous and doesn’t give a damn, and may the God he does not believe in continue to bless him.

    Gervais’ latest Netflix special SuperNature, which went live Tuesday, is perfectly inappropriate, gloriously offensive, beautifully fearless, and hysterically funny.

    For about an hour, one by one, Gervais leads sacred cows onto the stage and then proceeds to beat, stab, sodomize, and bury them.

    Old people, lesbians, Woketards, transsexuals, the Holocaust, Christians, pro-lifers, Muslims, fat people, female comedians, the Chinese, dwarfs, pedophiles, Eskimos, AIDS… Pow! Crash! Wham! Boom!

  7. dover0beach Avatar

    Funny thing is that Hopkins showed himself a perceptive actor by saying so, and did it while not talking down to people.

    Indeed. He is a genuinely decent human being. Here he is giving a talk and Q & A at St Thomas Aquinas College in Santa Paula, California. It came about thus:

    Sir Anthony’s visit came about quite providentially, beginning with a spontaneous visit to campus two days earlier. Like many a passerby, he was intrigued by the beauty of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity Chapel, whose dome and bell tower stand out above the treetops along California Highway 150. “I was driving past and I saw the Chapel tower, and so I called in here,” he explained. Upon visiting the campus he met various College officials, who invited him to return and give a talk. Graciously, Sir Anthony accepted their offer.

    Wonderful man.

  8. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Diogenes says: In NSW you don’t get your HSC unless you pass a separate literacy and numeracy exam.

    Interesting – didn’t know that. Odd though, that the Aussie system abolished the old school certificate for year 10s everywhere. IIRR there was once some sort of ticket out of primary school to show you had attained minimum standards – or was that in the UK?

    My granddad in the UK was very indignant you had to sit a test at the end of primary school which pushed you into either a white collar or blue collar stream. Part of the class system, he said.

  9. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    A way the Coalition could have tried to do that re workers and doctor’s wives over the last decade was through nuclear energy. It squibbed it because it was too weak to make the argument.

    Conservatism is the absence of radicalism. The Liberal Party has lost power because it has sided with radicals like Simon Holmes a Court and his leg-openers party who are trying to dismantle our power grid and replace it with backward 19th century “technology”.

    It’s not rocket science, but idiots like Simon Birmingham think the Liberal Party needs more radicalism to regain power. You need to burrow deep down inside a rabbit hole to come up with such an upside-down misreading of the Australian electorate.

  10. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    I think I need to get netflix just for the Gervais special.

    I mean, I can’t miss gold like this

    There’s Oxbridge comedians writing for the posh papers, the rules of comedy, they’re laying it down, laying down the law. And it’s all stuff like, “Comedy should punch up. You should never punch down.” Sometimes you’ve gotta punch down, like if you’re beating up a disabled toddler. Know what I mean? If you punch up, you’ll miss the little cunt. He’ll win.

  11. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    willsays:
    May 26, 2022 at 11:10 am
    Sancho Panzersays:
    May 26, 2022 at 9:01 am
    Singh would keep clothing on and have sex with the women with the strap-on phallus when the lights were turned off.

    This is more common than you think.

    and you know this how?

    Don’t ask.
    Don’t tell.

  12. dover0beach Avatar

    Libs of TikTok
    @libsoftiktok
    · 2h
    Demonic. Pro-abortion TikToker tells her newborn baby on video “I could have killed you but I chose to let you live”

    If you ‘chose’ to kill her, we can choose to send you to prison.

  13. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle
  14. Dot Avatar

    Gervais killed me with “No, and if I was, it wouldn’t be a fat ginger like you…”.

    Perhaps a bit too bad taste to be SFW.

  15. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Yesterday Rabz was pointing out that you cannot not vote for someone you don’t like in the HoR as your preferences fall through, and by inference (I think) that the HoR informal vote would be driven higher by those not wishing to contribute to any party likely to be elected in their seat.

    If the above were the case, I’d expect the HoR informal vote to be higher than the senate informal vote. Let’s also remove the variable of the senate paper being significantly more confusing than the HoR paper (ie: Senate has a higher chance of inadvertent informal vote) by looking at the change in informal votes.

    From here and here we get the state and national voting patterns.

    Informal vote (%), Swing (%)
    Senate: 5.75% +1.94%
    HoR: 5.05%, -0.49%

    So I’d say the data disproves the idea… unless maybe the senate informal has gone up because people tried to be more specific (voted below the line) and stuffed it up.

  16. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Singh would keep clothing on and have sex with the women with the strap-on phallus when the lights were turned off.

    This is more common than you think.

    True story.. apparently…

    Older Viet lady went to the docs because she was having some issues ‘down bellow” when her and her hubby made whoopee.
    Doctor asked her how big her husbands dick was.
    Her answer was “I dont know the lights are always out’ and she had never seen it.

  17. dopey Avatar
    dopey

    Strap-on man. No use at the sperm bank.

  18. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Sancho Panzersays:
    May 26, 2022 at 12:17 pm
    willsays:
    May 26, 2022 at 11:10 am
    Sancho Panzersays:
    May 26, 2022 at 9:01 am
    Singh would keep clothing on and have sex with the women with the strap-on phallus when the lights were turned off.

    This is more common than you think.

    and you know this how?

    Don’t ask.
    Don’t tell.

    Giver or receiver?

  19. Old bloke Avatar
    Old bloke

    Tom says:
    May 26, 2022 at 11:45 am

    A way the Coalition could have tried to do that re workers and doctor’s wives over the last decade was through nuclear energy. It squibbed it because it was too weak to make the argument.

    The way out was for the Coalition to confront the lies at the outset many years ago. Instead they decided to play along nicely with the climate hysterics instead of standing for the truth. Their failure to act early and resolutely resulted in the conmen taking over the party such as Hewson, Turnbull and the Photios gang.

    It’s hard to imagine how Abbott managed to get the whole party aligned to vote against the RET at one time, I don’t think we’ll see that happening again.

  20. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    Rittenhouse got $22 million from The View? Is that confirmed? If so, wow!

    I’m a little hesitant to accept it because aren’t these kinds of settlements generally kept confidential? Also, a few pro-Rittenhouse (and reliable) legal sources questioned the likelihood of him receiving anything. The argument, as I understood it, was that calling Rittenhouse a murderer would be unlikely to meet the actual malice standard of defamation in the US for public figures. Rittenhouse is a public figure who shot and killed two people, and describing him as a murderer is protected speech, even if a jury found he acted in self defence and thus not guilty of murder – the logic being you can disagree with the findings of the court and express your disagreement.

    However, if The View is ponying up, I guess a lot of others will soon follow suit.

  21. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    hzhousewife at 11:34.
    I heard that too.
    A Volvo ??40.
    Takes 24 hours to charge from a domestic power point.
    I thought he said 50% charge in 40 minutes on a fast charger.
    Range?
    He reckons he can get from Warrnambool to Melbourne on a full battery.
    Gongle maps tells me that is 250 km.
    Good luck with that as the battery degrades over time.

  22. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Surprisingly the AFR Forget final victory – Ukraine should start negotiating for peace

    This is not 1943. Urging Ukrainians to deliver a final victory against Russia, when NATO is not even thinking of putting boots on the ground, is hypocritical and irresponsible.

    Yanis Varoufakis

    Today, the West acts like the United States did before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour: standing on the sidelines, arming and cheering those who are doing the actual fighting.

    Under the circumstances, urging Ukrainians to deliver a final victory against Russia, when NATO is not even thinking of putting boots on the ground or warplanes in the air, is both hypocritical and irresponsible.

    Given that cornering Putin in some Moscow bunker cannot sensibly be the West’s endgame, what would a final victory for Ukraine look like?

    How likely is such a serendipitous outcome for Ukraine and NATO? And how reasonable is it to wager Ukraine’s future on it, especially in view of the West’s sorry track record on attempts at regime change?

    In fact, most evidence points in the opposite direction. While the war is going badly for Putin, the economic war is working rather nicely for him. Granted, underprivileged Russians are suffering, skilled workers are fleeing, and many industries are running out of parts.

    Even so, according to Robin Brooks of the Institute of International Finance, a gigantic current-account surplus is in the making (projected to reach $US200-250 billion in 2022, up from $US95.8 billion in April). No wonder the ruble has recovered fully.

    This massive windfall allows Putin’s regime easily to finance a long-term war of attrition in Ukraine. Many Russians will be impoverished, and their economy will be condemned to long-term stagnation. But on Putin’s chessboard, ordinary Russians are mere pawns whose sacrifice is acceptable, if not necessary, to inflict long-term damage on Ukraine while waiting for ruptures to appear within NATO – especially once the fickle Western media turn their attention to other matters.

    In this context, calls for a final Ukrainian victory gravitate toward a wholesale defeat for everyone – except perhaps arms dealers and the fossil-fuel industry, whose fortunes the war has mightily revived.

    Least worst outcome

    We know that those caught up in war must economise on offers of negotiations, lest they be branded weak. Nonetheless, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky confirmed earlier this month that the war cannot end without negotiations: “Despite the fact that they are destroying our bridges,” he said, “I believe that not all bridges have been destroyed yet.”

    It should be the job of those of us not directly involved in the war to help the combatants envisage what a negotiated peace may look like – and to say the things that they cannot afford to say before the negotiations begin.

    A fair deal, we must agree, should leave everyone somewhat dissatisfied, while constituting a great improvement over every feasible alternative. Both sides must make gains that far exceed their losses, without losing face.

  23. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Sancho Panzersays:
    May 26, 2022 at 12:39 pm
    hzhousewife at 11:34.
    I heard that too.
    A Volvo ??40.

    Volvo XC40 – they seem very coy about home charging on a standard socket
    https://www.volvocars.com/au/cars/xc40-electric/specification/

    “Typical time to charge from 0 to 100 per cent with 11kW AC fast charging/wallbox (Type 2) 3-phase 16A.**”

    Now given the standard wall socket is 10A single phase, 24 hours sounds about right.

    Oh – and if your house is not already wired for 3-phase, factor that into your costs, too.

  24. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Anyone got a link to the full Gervais piece?

  25. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    Boambee John and Cassie, re: your responses to the following –

    If the Libs had any brains, they’d stop bleating about winning back the rich, climate change-obsessed doctor’s wives, whose defection conventional wisdom attributes to their loss, and start planning their outreach to the FIFO/tradie classes.

    What’s the bet the Libs botch it completely? I’m a little concerned about Dutton, the alleged ‘conservative hard man’ of the Liberal Party, being made the opposition leader first up. A lot of leaders of freshly deposed former governments fail. If this is to be Dutton’s fate, who comes after him? What conclusions will be drawn? ‘We ran too far to the right with Dutton, we need someone more moderate’? This is, after all, pretty much the default Liberal Party assumption when things go wrong for them.

  26. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Rittenhouse got $22 million from The View? Is that confirmed? If so, wow!

    My reading of that news is that it was satire. Pity.

  27. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    dover0beachsays:
    May 26, 2022 at 12:18 pm
    Libs of TikTok
    @libsoftiktok
    · 2h
    Demonic. Pro-abortion TikToker tells her newborn baby on video “I could have killed you but I chose to let you live”

    If you ‘chose’ to kill her, we can choose to send you to prison.

    She will be feeling so virtuous. Wonder how virtuous when baby grows up and see’s clip. “Sorry mom, I chose to kill you”. What sort of parent can even think this? Breaks my heart.

  28. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Coalition can’t sell net zero socialism

    The Coalition legitimised our opponents by signing up to the radical, green idea that we should totally transform how we make food and energy, within a generation, using technologies that don’t exist.

    Matt Canavan

    McDonald’s has tried many times to sell health food but it has always failed. As the Wall Street Journal put it in 2017: “After losing about 500 million US orders over the past five years … [McDonald’s] said it was going to embrace its identity as an affordable fast food chain and stop chasing after people who will rarely eat there.”

    McDonald’s can’t sell health food and the Liberal and Nationals parties will never be able to sell socialism.

    For the Coalition to win back government we have to stop chasing people that rarely vote for us. People that are committed to climate change action will not vote for us. As this election proved once again, climate conscious voters will go for the real deal, or the real teals in this case.

    The net zero emissions agenda is for the massive expansion of government and corporate control. To enforce net zero there must be an army of bureaucrats measuring this and taxing that. And, an associated bureaucracy in the corporate and banking world who decide what investments are taboo.

    I joined the Liberal and Nationals parties because I believe that we should lower taxes, get rid of red tape and provide freedom to individuals and families to pursue happiness. Net zero emissions does the opposite.

    By supporting net zero, we legitimised our opponents by signing up to the radical, green idea that we should totally transform how we make food and energy, within a generation, using technologies that don’t yet exist.

    In fairness, we proposed getting to net zero slower, but this just made us Fabian socialists. We agreed with the socialist ideal – we just didn’t support the aggressive tactics of the Bolsheviks to get there.

    In any case, the record is clear. We took net zero to the election and we lost. Those saying we should be more “ambitious” on climate change are parroting the old trope that socialism has not failed, it just has not been properly tried yet. And further, how exactly could we be more ambitious? Should we support a carbon tax? Should we ban petrol cars? Or, should we restrict the consumption of red meat?

    Exporting the problems elsewhere

    The net zero agenda has proven to be a complete and utter failure in practical terms. Since the Glasgow conference, coal prices are up threefold, oil prices are up 32 per cent, gas prices are up 90 per cent, wheat prices are up 56 per cent and corn prices are up 41 per cent.

    Prices were increasing before the war in Ukraine, but the war has exposed the folly of the West’s net zero obsession. What climate change policies have done is to export the manufacture of high emission goods – such as fertiliser, transport fuels and raw energy – to other nations not obsessed with reducing emissions. This has left the free nations of the world dangerously exposed to the whims of dictatorial regimes.

    During the Glasgow conference, Russia and China banned the export of fertilisers. Thanks to many Western countries not developing their gas resources, Russia and China are now the world’s largest producers of ammonia, the feedstock for the most commonly used fertilisers.

    This is the principal reason why food prices have gone through the roof and why people are starving around the world. The first green revolution unlocked the carbon content of fossil fuels to help make fertilisers that boosted crop yields. Around half of the world’s food is now grown using fertilisers made from natural gas.

    The net zero emissions agenda is for the massive expansion of government and corporate control.

    Thanks to fossil fuels, starvation has effectively been eradicated from the world except in cases of political disarray.

    The ESG “green” revolution is shutting down the production of gas and other fossil fuels that kept people fed. The consequence is food riots in South America and South-East Asia. The ESG acronym should be re-designated to stand for “Extreme Shortages Guaranteed”. Climate change has not caused people to starve, but climate change policies are doing that right now.

    Lucky for us, Australia will not run out of food as we produce a significant surplus. But prices for food and energy will rise and hit the poor hardest.

    These price increases will be so large that they will cause a massive political backlash. For all the hype over the high-wealth teal seats, they represent, by definition, just a small percentage of the Australian people.

    An inflexible commitment to net zero emissions will not be consistent with democracy because eventually people will not pay the price. That is already happening in Europe (where Boris Johnson wants a “leave pass” from their climate change commitments) and in the US, where the Republicans look likely to sweep the midterm elections, largely from the momentum of raging, ESG-induced inflation.

    Ultimately, there will be a desire for solutions that lower energy and food prices. Everywhere that government has got involved in providing green subsidies has just led to higher energy prices as a consequence.

    For the Liberal and Nationals parties to get a bigger party room we will have to argue for smaller government.

  29. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    From The Guardian 26.05.2022 11:13AM:

    In a 2GB radio interview, [Peter] Dutton said he believed the Coalition could win the next election.

    “There’s a lot of work between now and then, and the Liberal party has to get back to being the Liberal party and being the broad church and making sure that we represent all Australians,” he said.

    “But with a particular focus on people out in the suburbs, people who are doing it tough, people struggling to fill up their cars and people who are working hard and getting nowhere.”

    After comments from Liberal moderates including Simon Birmingham, Dave Sharma and Matt Kean that the party had lurched too far to the right, Dutton said he wasn’t going to be radically shifting the Coalition – but also said he wasn’t “some extreme rightwing person”.

    “We can’t be Labor-lite and we won’t be if I’m elected leader,” he said. “We’re a centre-right party.”

    The proof of the pudding is in the policies.

    Sounds like he’s going to be relying more on Elbow & Co. to stuff up rather than taking the Liberal Party in a radically new direction.

  30. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    ABCcess had Warren Entch (?) on this morning for an haruangterview.
    Basically boiled down to the ABC mong saying “Dutton isnt a Teal, therefore you will never win seats” and trying different ways to get Warren to say that.

    Lucky they increased its funding.

  31. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Surprisingly the AFR – Forget final victory – Ukraine should start negotiating for peace

    Not going to happen.

    82% of Ukrainians oppose territorial concessions: Poll (24 May)

    In the poll conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology between May 13 and May 18 and released on Tuesday (May 24), 82 per cent of respondents said they did not support territorial concessions, even if it prolonged the war and increased the threat to Ukraine’s independence.

    Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine on Feb 24, a move Moscow calls a special military operation to “demilitarise” Ukraine.

    Ten per cent of the 2,000 people surveyed found it acceptable for Ukraine to concede territory to achieve peace, while eight per cent were undecided. According to the poll, 77 per cent of Ukrainians living in Russian-occupied territory opposed any land concessions.

    Numbers like that no Ukrainian pollie would survive making a land for peace deal. They’d be assassinated.

  32. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Oh come onsays:
    May 26, 2022 at 12:36 pm
    Rittenhouse got $22 million from The View? Is that confirmed? If so, wow!

    I’m a little hesitant to accept it because aren’t these kinds of settlements generally kept confidential? Also, a few pro-Rittenhouse (and reliable) legal sources questioned the likelihood of him receiving anything. The argument, as I understood it, was that calling Rittenhouse a murderer would be unlikely to meet the actual malice standard of defamation in the US for public figures. Rittenhouse is a public figure who shot and killed two people, and describing him as a murderer is protected speech, even if a jury found he acted in self defence and thus not guilty of murder – the logic being you can disagree with the findings of the court and express your disagreement.

    However, if The View is ponying up, I guess a lot of others will soon follow suit.

    I think the word you’re looking for is Alleged. Something most of the media didn’t use.

  33. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Numbers like that no Ukrainian pollie would survive making a land for peace deal. They’d be assassinated.

    As I understand it the Ukrainian Constitution requires a referendum for such questions.

    The most Zelensky can do is negotiate a cease fire for that to happen, but Ukrainians aren’t in aframe of mind to swap land for peace, yet…

    The Western media, unsurprisingly, has little understanding of the forces they’ve helped conjure up.

  34. Winston Smith Avatar

    Colonel Crispin:
    Labor MP says:

    nobody is in any doubt about the new government’s view about a decent pay rise for low wage Australians to keep up with the skyrocketing cost of living.”

    A pay rise will exclude more wukkas from employment in the regulated sector, and force them either onto the unemployment rolls or the unregulated sector where they can be exploited.
    This from the Wukkas Party.
    How do they get away with this duplicity?

  35. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    ..The first green revolution unlocked the carbon content of fossil fuels to help make fertilisers that boosted crop yields. Around half of the world’s food is now grown using fertilisers made from natural gas.

    Thanks to fossil fuels, starvation has effectively been eradicated from the world except in cases of political disarray.

    This is the sort of basic information that is not taught in schools, and why we end up with green and anti-fossil fuel hysteria.

    Cheap energy has lifted more people out of poverty than any other force known to mankind.

  36. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    From duncanm’s link at 12:45.
    (Apologies for length, but worth seeing the stark difference in range claims).

    Range and charging

    Recharge Twin Electric MotorRecharge Single Electric MotorType of motor

    450

    km

    Pure electric range

    The range above shows the official WLTP certified data for the selected motor for combined driving. Actual range in real world conditions can vary depending on driving style, temperature, use of the vehicle’s climate system and other factors such as elevation, wind, rain and road surface.

    Below you can find out more about how driving style and temperature can affect range. *See details and disclaimer below.

    City driving – 420 km

    Cold weather – 210 km

    City driving and low average speeds tend to be the most efficient scenarios for electric cars.

    Combined driving – 360 km

    Cold weather – 200 km

    This is a combination of city and highway driving and the figures shown are based on an average speed that reflects these circumstances.

    Highway driving – 300 km

    Cold weather – 220 km

    On the highway at average speeds of around 100km/h, the power required to overcome higher wind resistance puts extra demands on the battery.

    WLTP testing is controlled and standardized. The range estimates presented in the city, combined and highway scenarios above are experimental results and are solely for illustrative purposes to demonstrate the possible effects of driving style and temperature on range. The ranges presented above are derived from testing centre and real-world driving tests performed by Volvo Cars and these outcomes are not guaranteed. Your real-world range outcomes may vary from those above. The estimates above in bold are based on a fully charged battery and a temperature of 23 degrees C. For the cold climate range data provided the temperature is estimated at -7 degrees C.

    Right.
    Yuuuge variation for “real world” highway conditions and ambient temperature. If we factor in shitty traffic conditions on the Westgate freeway in winter, our mate might be looking for a tow.

  37. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Thanks to fossil fuels, starvation has effectively been eradicated from the world except in cases of political disarray.

    That and Norman Borlaug.

  38. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    I think the word you’re looking for is Alleged. Something most of the media didn’t use.

    The View is an opinion show so they don’t need to follow such niceties. (Hell, even the NYT doesn’t think it has to even when it runs what appears to be a straight news story, although Project Veritas will hopefully disabuse them of this belief.) Remember that Rachel Maddow incorrectly described someone as a ‘literal paid Russian agent’ or something like that – the word ‘literal’ was used – that was deemed opinion and not a statement of fact, and thus protected speech. So if someone on The View says ‘no, the jury got it wrong, Rittenhouse is a murderer, he wasn’t acting in self-defence when he killed those people’…I don’t see how that is not protected speech.

  39. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Now given the standard wall socket is 10A single phase, 24 hours sounds about right.

    At 240 V x 10 A that’s 2.4 kW, so a 100 kWh battery would need something like 40 hours to charge. I can’t see anything less than a 100 kWh battery being worthwhile in medium term reality. And Tesla has a prototype with a 200 kWh battery:

    2023 Tesla Roadster: Everything we know in May 2022 (16 May)

    The Tesla Roadster prototype features a 200 kWh battery that supports charging at 350 kW DC and offers a range of 620 miles (997 km) at highway speeds, the longest driving range on a production EV. We wonder how Tesla has managed to fit such a large battery pack onto a compact sports car. The Hummer EV also has a massive 200+ kWh battery, and we know how gigantic the Hummer’s frame is. In addition, it features seating for two or four in its state-of-the-art cabin featuring a removable glass roof storable in the trunk.

    Tesla will deploy its new 4680 battery cell format in the 2023 Roadster. The company has named the new format after its dimensions: 80 mm in length and around 46 mm in diameter. Andrew Baglino, Senior Vice President, Powertrain and Energy Engineering, Tesla, has said that the 4680 cells can offer far more power and increased range. The new tabless cell technology’s advantages include reduced battery pack size and cost/kWh as well.

    Tesla initially priced the new Roadster at USD 200,000 in the base trim and USD 250,000 in the priority-delivery (first 1,000 units) Founder’s Series trim.

    It’ll be a seriously fine sports car, but it’d take a good chunk of a week to recharge from a 10 A socket!

  40. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    Are the Libs going to do something about their preselection processes? These clearly aren’t turning up quality people, or quality people aren’t being preselected as candidates.

  41. dover0beach Avatar

    Revisionist History
    @Mast3rmo
    Bruh I’m looking at the history of school shootings. Mind-blowing, kids brought guns to school until the 70s.

    Only 3 school mass shootings between 1903-1966.

    What happened?
    (Didnt take off until the 90s)

    Good thread. RTWT.

  42. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Black tranny Barbie will be a great addition to your collection along with one legged Barbie.

    come complete with an AR15

  43. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    It just occurs to me duncanm.
    We face a bigger horror in future than the boomer in his towelling hat towing a caravan at 80 kmh on a single lane highway.
    That is, the boomer in his electric Volvo 100 kilometres from home with a range indicator flashing 82 kilometres on his dashboard, nursing the car along at 65kmh to preserve battery.

  44. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    It’ll be a seriously fine sports car, but it’d take a good chunk of a week to recharge from a 10 A socket!

    get a proper charger, why charge from 10A??

  45. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    Bruce will be good for this one:

    Does hot weather impact EV range as much as cold weather? I presume that the same amount of energy will be required to fully charge an EV’s batteries, regardless of operating temperature. I think it’s safe to assume that in a very cold climate, most EVs are going to be charged indoors where the temps aren’t going to be as low as they would be out on the road. So if you have a country like Norway, where most cars are now EVs, wouldn’t that mean their EVs are half as efficient if their range is cut in half due to the cold?

    If so, wouldn’t an EV’s operating carbon footprint be similar to that of an average ICE-powered car when taking the power generation emissions into account, and possibly larger?

    (Of course, CO2 emissions to manufacture an EV is vastly larger than those for an ICE vehicle, but leaving that aside for now…)

  46. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    are vastly larger, not is

  47. dover0beach Avatar

    Are the Libs going to do something about their preselection processes? These clearly aren’t turning up quality people, or quality people aren’t being preselected as candidates.

    Might be worth ponying up a membership to see what is going on. Complaining from the outside isn’t working and the minor parties have an uphill struggle in the current institutional environment.

  48. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    According to the poll, 77 per cent of Ukrainians living in Russian-occupied territory opposed any land concessions.

    right. sure. doesn’t dodgy at all. totally legit.

  49. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    That is, the boomer in his electric Volvo 100 kilometres from home with a range indicator flashing 82 kilometres on his dashboard, nursing the car along at 65kmh to preserve battery.

    I wonder how much juice the climate control systems on an EV chew up. Running the heater or the AC must make your range fall through the floor.

  50. Winston Smith Avatar

    Doc Beaugan:

    OK, maybe we can do the food.

    Just you wait until the government starts to really regulate it under the gerbil wormening guidelines which will be set by brain dead Green technocrats living in the city.
    We’ll be a food importer in no time.

  51. Dot Avatar

    Can we import from the Italian Senate to our Australian Senate…Tifa…I mean, Nicole Minetti?

    The mother of a nation.

  52. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Moment Peter van Onselen reveals he forgot to vote in federal election again

    Political editor Peter van Onselen shocked colleagues and viewers revealing he forgot to vote in the election, but it’s not the first time.

  53. dover0beach Avatar

    In the poll conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology between May 13 and May 18 and released on Tuesday (May 24), 82 per cent of respondents said they did not support territorial concessions, even if it prolonged the war and increased the threat to Ukraine’s independence.

    They aren’t going to have a choice the way things are going. One thing I can’t tell from that article is which regions were polled, which weren’t, etc. Did they poll Kherson? Zaparochivia? Donetsk? Luhansk?

  54. dover0beach Avatar

    I fine brunette, dot. Very fine.

  55. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Cheap energy has lifted more people out of poverty than any other force known to mankind.

    What stopped slavery?

    a: The reformers in the UK Parliament led by Wilberforce using God and morality to shame people into doing the right thing?
    b: The steam engine in all its multifaceted glory?

    Decouple energy from living standards and you have earned the Nobel prize in perpetuity.

  56. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Giver or receiver?

    sounds like they take turns

  57. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    The mother of a nation.

    A grateful breast fed nation.

  58. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    dover0beachsays:
    May 26, 2022 at 11:42 am
    Joel Fischer ??
    @realJoelFischer
    Huge:
    @TheView
    settles with Rittenhouse for $22 million and a formal apology.

    Not tired of winning yet

    h/t: Gab

    Outstanding.

  59. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Rogersays:
    May 26, 2022 at 1:09 pm
    Thanks to fossil fuels, starvation has effectively been eradicated from the world except in cases of political disarray.

    That and Norman Borlaug.

    Yep.

  60. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Description: Coronavirus (COVID-19) at a glance – 24 May 2022

    As at 3pm on 24 May 2022, a total of 7,020,862 cases of COVID-19 have been reported in Australia, including 8,178 deaths, and approximately 353,415 active cases.

    COVID-19 cases were reported across all ages:

    The median age of all cases is 31 years (range: 0 to 110 years).
    The median age of deaths is 83 years (range: 0 to 110 years).

    There is a relatively equal ratio of male-to-female cases across most age groups.

    In 2020 case numbers reached an initial peak at the end of March. This was followed by a period of low case numbers. In mid-June 2020 case numbers started to increase before reaching a secondary peak in early August 2020. Case numbers gradually declined and remained low with spikes occurring in mid-late December 2020 and mid-late April 2021. From late June 2021, case numbers increased and peaked from late September to mid-October 2021. From mid-December 2021, case numbers increased sharply and peaked in January 2022.

    To date, more than 71,359,500 tests have been conducted nationally.

    The ‘cases in aged care services’ table presents the number of cases that have been reported among care recipients in Australian Government-subsidised residential and in-home care settings in each state and territory.

  61. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    OCO – In frigid Norway you have to have a heater in the car to not freeze. In Australia you need air conditioning…

    650 km Wintertime Trip With VW E-Car Took 13 Hours, 3 Recharges And Lots Of Warm Clothes (18 Jan)

    After being handed her new car from VW in Wolfsburg, she departed for Munich at 2:45 p.m. The subfreezing weather was a major drawback for the VW e-car. According to the kreiszeitung.de, “the heating stayed off for almost the entire journey in freezing temperature” in order not to draw down the battery so quickly. This meant that to survive the trip, Brack had to take along a generous supply of “hats, scarves, gloves and generally warm clothing” and hope to find enough CCS charging stations along the way.

    Driving across the Nullabor in summer would be fun, not, assuming available charging stations. Having said that there doesn’t seem to be much loss of performance for higher temperatures so long as you don’t turn on the air con, although you might lose some if the battery temperature management has to run a fan to keep it in operating temperature range.

  62. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Former President Tweets Unbelievably Coarse and Cruel Reaction to School Shooting

    Barack Obama
    @BarackObama

    As we grieve the children of Uvalde today, we should take time to recognize that two years have passed since the murder of George Floyd under the knee of a police officer. His killing stays with us all to this day, especially those who loved him.

    Christina Pushaw ? ??
    @ChristinaPushaw
    Replying to
    @BarackObama

    This is truly sick. 19 innocent children and 2 hero teachers were killed… and to the Divider-in-Chief, the real victim of Uvalde is George Floyd?

  63. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    OCO

    Does hot weather impact EV range as much as cold weather? 

    See my extract of the Volvo link above.
    Standard test is at 23 degrees.
    “Cold” is at minus 7 degrees.
    The range degrades considerably for “cold” conditions.
    Although, to be fair, it is rarely as cold as -7 in Australia.
    Maybe split the difference for an Australian cold day (say, 8 degrees)

  64. dover0beach Avatar

    a: The reformers in the UK Parliament led by Wilberforce using God and morality to shame people into doing the right thing?
    b: The steam engine in all its multifaceted glory?

    Both.

  65. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    I’m not buying an EV until they come out with diesel version.

  66. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    On another EV note.
    How does the drive system of an EV perform in slippery or bogged situations?
    I’ve never read anything about this.

  67. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    I also enjoyed the proposition by one writer that steam trains in Australia were replaced by diesel/electric because in our summer “it was too hot for the fireman to shovel coal”.

    Definitely! .. 10/10 for that one .. LOL!

  68. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Diogenes

    Not entirely true. In NSW you don’t get your HSC unless you pass a separate literacy and numeracy exam. Teachers have to pass a literacy and numeracy exam as part of their degree.

    How strict is the exam?

  69. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Obama is basically saying that one drug-addled, violent deadbeat = 21 dead Latino children.
    A jaw-droppingly unhinged comment.

  70. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    How strict is the exam?

    Roolly strick.
    You have got an our to ansser fore questions witch is twelve minutes aloud four each won.
    And there questions are rooly hard.
    Two hard inn my opinion.

  71. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    My granddad in the UK was very indignant you had to sit a test at the end of primary school which pushed you into either a white collar or blue collar stream. Part of the class system, he said.

    That was/may still be the National 11+ .. I passed that one and ended up at Grammar School .. also had the distiction of being the kid from the poorest family in the school .. worked well tho learnt how to fight back …… and win! .. 5 wonderful, growing up, years and a great education .. LOL!

  72. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Anyone got a link to the full Gervais piece?
    Any of the download sites will have it .. I got it from ..
    https://torrentgalaxy.to/

  73. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    In a 2GB radio interview, [Peter] Dutton said he believed the Coalition could win the next election.
    Surprise! surprise! .. what else is he gonna say? .. LOL!

  74. dover0beach Avatar

    FoiaFan
    @15poundstogo
    4/ Take what you will from there being, as of yet, no documented case of any preliminary inquiry opened as a result of Barr’s memo. Maybe none were called for. But you can’t say DOJ “thoroughly investigated” election fraud. Not without evidence of some investigation. I see none.

    Looks like FBI did nothing following Barr’s memo to investigate any election irregularities.

  75. Zyconoclast Avatar
    Zyconoclast

    RTWT

    An ode to Perth
    Adam Piggott

    Growing up in Western Australia and coming of age in the late eighties was a privilege, an awareness of which only increases with time. That period was the culmination of a good few decades of prosperity, but most importantly, it was a time of innocence, when public and social life was uncontaminated with the extreme viewpoints and vitriolic rhetoric to which we are now exposed on an endless basis.

  76. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    Re Dover’s suggestion we should get involved in Libs – my experience of politics on local government many moons ago turned me off that for life. For anyone who had principles & hates humbug, it is a thankless business.

    A well known Labor mayor once told me that, at any one time, 50% of the voters love you & 50% hate you. Who wants to be hated by that many people?

  77. calli Avatar
    calli

    The Hall of Fame was great – excellent exhibits and films. Top marks and worth every cent.

    And then came the live show. They say not to work with animals and children, but this puts the lie to it. There was even one very obedient dorper! Pedro, you aren’t doing it right!

    Downside…here we witnessed the just criticism of Boomers in all its gory glory – old buzzards pushing small children (who had patiently lined up) out of the way to take a photo with the bull. The Beloved, generally meek and kindly, had words with them. Many…many words.

  78. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    Note that Sydney working class in western suburbs – Lindsay- comfortably returned the Liberal candidate. This was an electorate won by John Howard & mostly won since – but the current margin is surprisingly good.

    Should be examined by Lib advisers for future lessons. We have property there & some parts are certainly aspirational. But many many areas are still strugglestreet.

  79. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    a: The reformers in the UK Parliament led by Wilberforce using God and morality to shame people into doing the right thing?
    b: The steam engine in all its multifaceted glory?

    Not sure the steam engine was actually so important.
    The earliest widely successful steam engine was Watt’s engine, which he invented in the 1760’s or ’70’s. Slavery had been on the way out at law even before Somerset’s case (1772), and slaves in the British Empire were usually either domestic servants or plantation workers in the colonies, not people whose tasks were superseded by steam.

  80. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I don’t think Dover meant become a politician?
    More a liberal member to influence policies.
    Exactly the reason TA has stayed in.

  81. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    That POS beta interrupted a news conference about the Texas school shooting and you can tell the cops there wanted to punch the shit out of him.

    Live here.

  82. Bruce in WA Avatar
    Bruce in WA

    OCO said:

    I wonder how much juice the climate control systems on an EV chew up. Running the heater or the AC must make your range fall through the floor.

    Rellies in Camas, Washington State, have a daughter who lived in Wilsonville, OR — about 40 miles between the two.

    If it was dark (headlights) or cold (heater) or hot (a/c), her Nissan Leaf could not make the return journey on one charge. She would have to stop at a shopping centre in Camas and give it a quick belt on the free fast charger while she had a coffee.

    Reputed range of the Leaf? 168 miles

  83. Old bloke Avatar
    Old bloke

    Joel Jamal had a rather upbeat video yesterday regarding the Senate counting in most states. He said there was a possibility that One Nation will take the sixth seat in WA, SA, NSW and Pauline is back in Queensland. The UAP is looking good for the sixth position in Victoria, and there’s a remote possibility that Topher Field will take the sixth seat in Tasmania.

    With that result, and if the Liberals take the second seat in the ACT instead of the Teals, the “freedom parties” will hold the balance of power in the Senate.

    Joel Jamal – Election Update

    h/t Steve Tickler on the other Cat.

  84. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Note that Sydney working class in western suburbs – Lindsay- comfortably returned the Liberal candidate. This was an electorate won by John Howard & mostly won since – but the current margin is surprisingly good.”

    Indeed…and it wasn’t just in Lindsay, this voting pattern was repeated in other outlying suburbs of Melbourne and Brisbane. Also Werriwa. here in Sydney, a seat once held by Gough Whitlam and Mark Latham, is within striking distance.

    I thought Dutton’s words last night were heartening, talking about the “forgotten people”……worthy words as well as a nice nod to the great Robert Gordon Menzies and his speech of 1942, eighty years ago this week.

  85. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    However, if The View is ponying up, I guess a lot of others will soon follow suit.

    I wonder if the breathtakingly erudite, keen-eyed, and wily judicial scholar, Whoopi Goldberg, will be charging the massive pistons that operate her jaw and engaging the slow but unstoppable gears that operate the heaving bellows of her lungs to deliver her irrefutable legal wisdom.

    Perhaps she could barge upstairs to the legal department and put them straight in where they had gone awry.

  86. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “dover0beachsays:
    May 26, 2022 at 1:26 pm
    Are the Libs going to do something about their preselection processes? These clearly aren’t turning up quality people, or quality people aren’t being preselected as candidates.

    Might be worth ponying up a membership to see what is going on. Complaining from the outside isn’t working and the minor parties have an uphill struggle in the current institutional environment.”

    I think that’s a very good idea.

  87. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Rosie at 2:40.
    The Rittenhouse payout from The View story is a bust?
    Are you sure?
    I got it from trusted sources on the innernet.
    CHRISTIAN websites, no less.

  88. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Farmer Gezsays:
    May 26, 2022 at 1:50 pm
    On another EV note.
    How does the drive system of an EV perform in slippery or bogged situations?

    if the electronics/slip control are working – probably 100x better than a IC engined vehicle.

    Electric motors provide max torque at zero revs.

  89. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    From Rosies link above

    The “Dunning-Kruger Times” discloses in its “about” page that it is part of America’s Last Line of Defense, a “network of parody, satire and tomfoolery” run by Christopher Blair. Blair previously published a satirical article about a supposed Rittenhouse lawsuit against Goldberg and co-host Joy Behar in November 2021, USA TODAY reported.

    Monty will be along once his sugar crash has ended to mock you for not checking this.
    But remember, you are being mocked by someone who believes a woman can have her own cock.
    And kids who arent allowed to smoke should be allowed surgical mutilation and chemicals to stunt and retard their natural growth.

  90. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    so here’s a thought.

    Apart from destroying some of the wet libs, if the ALP gets a majority in the HoR, what influence can the Teals wield?

  91. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    oh, the other advantage of electric, of course, is that the traction control electrickery will act directly on the drive (motors), rather than via braking individual wheels, playing with diff torque split, or faffing with the engine (eg: retarding ignition). If you’ve got a motor at each corner, that makes it very flexible and relatively straightforward

  92. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    what influence can the Teals wield?

    They can be useful camouflage for Labour to introduce policies they didnt dare put to the electorate.

    Eg: nationalise some super for “nation building” green crud.
    Have a Teal put it up and claim to have to do it to secure their support on “snugly kisses for cute puppies” bill that 3 of your side wont vote yes for…

  93. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Old blokesays:
    May 26, 2022 at 3:02 pm
    Joel Jamal had a rather upbeat video yesterday regarding the Senate counting in most states

    anyone got a good source for the likely senate preference distributions? The AEC is only giving results on first pref as far as I can tell, so there’s just a splattering of 10% or less allocations across a large number of minor parties.

    Hard to tell where those prefs will flow.

  94. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    .. good point, ‘mole.

  95. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Are the Libs going to do something about their preselection processes? These clearly aren’t turning up quality people, or quality people aren’t being preselected as candidates.

    You mean Liberal party members might turn up to vote in an election for someone they voted for in their branch?

    I gave serious thought to Deves because she had spoken up with the uncontroversial ‘controversial’ opinion that biological women should not be forced to compete against biological men – but then the rest of her page basically said the same inane Liberal party boiler plate about ‘investing in jobs’ and ‘climate’, and frankly unless there were a lot of other Libs who would also stand against this leftist mummery her influence on the matter would have amounted to nothing.

    She looks nice, but.

  96. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    China seeks deal with up to 10 Pacific nations

    China is scaling up its efforts to gain a strategic foothold in the Pacific seeking a deal with 10 Pacific nations – while a US spokesperson warns Pacific Islands of “shadowy deals” with China.

    The deals are reported to include offering police, security, and cyber-support, paired with a new free trade agreement.

    US state department spokesperson Ned Price said China has a pattern of offering “shadowy, vague deals” with little regional consultancy.

    “These recent security agreements have been conducted with little regional consultation, provoking public concern not only in the United States, but across the Indo-Pacific,” he said.

  97. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    I got it from trusted sources on the innernet.
    CHRISTIAN websites, no less.

    Yeah!

    Christians consider lying is a sin.

  98. dover0beach Avatar

    Batya Ungar-Sargon
    @bungarsargon
    ·
    1h
    Dear God
    Quote Tweet

    Matt Novak
    @paleofuture
    · 3h
    This video make so much more sense now. The cops literally stopped parents from helping their kids. twitter.com/andyspecht/sta…

    This is harrowing. Not only did they not go in immediately, they held back parents trying to retrieve their kids.

  99. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    You know, if they dont want to be thought of as evil shits perhaps they should try not saying or planning evil things.

    World Economic Forum shill, Yuval Noah Hariri:

    “Covid is critical because this is what convinces people to accept to legitimize total biometric surveillance. We need to not just monitor people, we need to monitor what’s happening under their skin”pic.twitter.com/qoPKVGxR7d

    — Maajid ??? ????? (@MaajidNawaz) May 21, 2022

  100. dover0beach Avatar

    Rittenhouse v The View is a whopper

    I suspected us much when OCO raised questions later in the morning and I saw that neither Viva or Barnes mentioned it.

  101. will Avatar
    will

    With that result, and if the Liberals take the second seat in the ACT instead of the Teals, the “freedom parties” will hold the balance of power in the Senate.

    except when the LNP/Nat, ALP and Greens combine

  102. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    I thought Dutton’s words last night were heartening, talking about the “forgotten people”……worthy words as well as a nice nod to the great Robert Gordon Menzies and his speech of 1942, eighty years ago this week.

    I suppose the first thing to do it to rekindle hope and enthusiasm in the disheartened of the party and electorate.

    ‘Broad church’ is something he needs to re-think saying. Letting in progressives (euphemistically called moderates) has not only by numbers neutralised any conservative voice, but by underhandedness and conniving moved the party left.

    Any attempt to save the party that does not involve staking Photios out on an anthill and taking Trumble for a helicopter ride will have to be assessed as merely cosmetic.

    And for Cthulu’s* sake, stop talking about climate change. Talk about cost of living – electricity, petrol, so on. Talk about the waste which inflates our tax bills. Tell people how much better you can make their lives.

    When the MSM talks about a ‘lurch to the right’, explain it is a lurch back from the left, for which you have a mandate from all those voters who didn’t vote for you. Break free of ‘Left/Right’ and describe it as a lurch to lower taxes, more freedom, greater opportunity, and greater civility you effin’ idiot. And a lurch to having one less Photios and one less Trumble in the world.

    Simples, you numbnut!

    *Didn’t want to draw the almighty into something as squalid as politics.

  103. dover0beach Avatar

    The “Dunning-Kruger Times”

    This isn’t really an OWN against conservatives. Rittenhouse has already settled in his favour a number of cases against media companies for defamation so its hardly unbelievable that another could occur.

  104. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    I am bitterly disappointed in Vlad, the least he could do is sling a nuke or two into Davos. Service to humanity.

  105. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    Some may recall ex Commando Major Heston Russell of the Australian Values Party was running for Qld Senate.

    Seems he got 11,600 votes.

  106. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Quite right MotherLode. Make politics simple for even the brain dead to understand instead of unicorn farts.

  107. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    ‘mole at 3:22.
    I think Rosie was raising the flag, not buying the Rittenhouse story.
    Dover.

    Rittenhouse has already settled in his favour a number of cases against media companies for defamation so its hardly unbelievable that another could occur.

    Except perhaps for the sum involved and the excessively flowery legal titles and nomenclature.

  108. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    ML.

    Christians consider lying is a sin.

    I assume there is a let-out sub-clause covering pisstakes, satire and white lies?

  109. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    China seeks deal with up to 10 Pacific nations

    we’re fucked

  110. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    ‘mole at 3:22.
    I think Rosie was raising the flag, not buying the Rittenhouse story.

    I was highlighting her post as it was easy to miss.
    I didnt think shed been sucked in by it.

    Anyway, Whoopie couldnt afford a figure like hers and still have money in the bank.
    Deep fried butter wrapped in whole pigs, also deep fried, with a garnish of the black crud extracted from Kentucky fired chicken deep friers, then thermomixed into a fine drinking paste cant be cheap.

  111. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    I don’t think Dutton is dreaming to think Elbow could be a one-termer.
    The Elbow Party will end up with a majority of one, with several Teals and Greens making up the difference.
    The tail-winds Dutton will have include:-
    .1 Rising interest rates.
    .2 Inflation on general consumer staples over this term.
    .3 The Teals inevitably exposing themselves as Kenneally types.
    .4 Energy prices going off the scale.
    Finding seats to pinch off Elbow in fringe suburban electorates is certainly possible, and the fact that the Teals will show themselves to be shooting stars might deliver some of those seats back to the LNP.
    The worst outcome could be a near miss in 2025.
    Something like ALP 69, Greens 4, Teals 4.

  112. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Ah, no worries ‘mole.
    I was going to copy it and comment, but because the entire text was a link I couldn’t pick it up.
    ????
    Weird.
    It did have a slight Bee feel to it.

  113. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    The “Dunning-Kruger Times”

    What a fine name for a news satire site! Now bookmarked, I’ll explore it and see what his stuff is like. (linky)

    Rittenhouse has already settled in his favour a number of cases against media companies

    Dover – I think you may be thinking of Nick Sandmann. Kyle Rittenhouse is working on such things but it is too early for any results yet.

  114. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Sorry my fellow cata tonics.
    I can copy and paste on the phone thanks to Diogenes but wanted that Whoopi Whopper.

  115. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    OMG. OMFG.

    The mysterious forces of the WEF are still burning major CHRISTIAN food depots all around the world! Obviously this is part of their plan to deny us food. Global shortages -then we have to buy THEIR food! On credit! Social credit!

    Why, just this week there have been –

  116. dover0beach Avatar

    Dover – I think you may be thinking of Nick Sandmann. Kyle Rittenhouse is working on such things but it is too early for any results yet.

    Yes, I think you might be right there.

  117. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Wait, wait.

    I’ll have to get back to this. It was the hottest topic in town three weeks ago.

    Dunno why it’s dropped from sight, and everyone’s view.

    Unless………

  118. Digger Avatar
    Digger

    The worst outcome could be a near miss in 2025.
    Something like ALP 69, Greens 4, Teals 4.

    There are quite a lot of people on this blog who obviously prefer the makeup of what will be the current parliament and I would expect that sentiment may carry through to 2025.

    Over the past couple of years those very same people have wished for, expressed their dislike of the last government and set about convincing as many as possible to oust them. They now have their wish and it will be interesting to see them continue to support the policies they have wished for and voted for.

  119. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Oh.

    It was just a pattern of industrial fires.

    Carry on. Didn’t mean to cause a panic.

  120. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Joel Jamal had a rather upbeat video yesterday regarding the Senate counting in most states. He said there was a possibility that One Nation will take the sixth seat in WA, SA, NSW and Pauline is back in Queensland. The UAP is looking good for the sixth position in Victoria, and there’s a remote possibility that Topher Field will take the sixth seat in Tasmania.

    If only. The stinking abc is certainly not on board.

  121. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    “If man made a public comment about a woman’s appearance he would be sacked or demoted at the very least” h/t Gemma Tognini.

    #Plibs

  122. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    The Mocker in the Oz

    Like all decent and right-thinking people, I felt immense relief on Saturday evening when it became clear Labor would win government. The nightmare that began nine years ago is finally over. Democracy has returned.

    The adults are in charge once more. This new government, unlike the one it replaced, is one based on kindness and tolerance.

    Let the word go out that Australia is ready to resume its place in the world community. No longer are we a pariah nation.

    Witness the many Australians declaring on social media “I am proud of my country once again”. It is gratifying to learn we are finally worthy of these moral luminaries, not that anyone asked them.

    Let us join France’s outgoing foreign minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, in celebrating the downfall of the Morrison government. “I can’t stop myself from saying that the defeat of Morrison suits me very well,” he smugly observed on the weekend. We can only sympathise and apologise for rebuffing your country, monsieur. If there is one people that have always come to the aid of Australians during a crisis, it’s the French.

    The zeitgeist is positively Obamaesque, the moment when, to quote the former US president upon securing the Democratic nomination in 2008, “the rise of the oceans began to slow, and our planet began to heal”.

    From Lismore to Mallacoota, the people celebrate. No more torrential floods, no more devastating bushfires. And when they do occur, what reasonable person would blame Prime Minister Anthony Albanese for an act of nature?

    In every contest there must be a loser. It was too hard to pick who was the most miserable on Saturday night.

    The best I could do was narrow it down to Tim Wilson, Dave Sharma, Josh Frydenberg, and Bill Shorten (not necessarily in that order). As for Kristina Keneally, what are the chances of her honouring her promise to live in Fowler even if she lost the election? I can imagine her response: “Try as hard as I did, I was unable to find a secluded millionaire island retreat within the electorate”.

    Fifth wheel Teals

    And what of the Teal ‘independents’? You know, the ones who were going to end the dominance of the two major parties by securing the balance of power in the lower house. Well, by targeting only Liberal-held seats all they have done is delivered majority government to Labor. Far from being a fifth columnist, they are now a fifth wheel.

    They claimed not to be a party and cited gender equality as one of their core principles. But last week they refused to criticise the behaviour of their bankroller and Climate 200 co-founder Simon Holmes a Court.

    He had confronted and stood over a clearly uncomfortable Jane Hume at a polling station despite the Liberal senator asking him repeatedly to leave her alone. We do not want to upset our patriarch and benefactor, do we ladies?

    The Coalition’s defeat has been attributed to many reasons, including climate change, the vaccine rollout, and the desire for integrity in government. I do not deny they were factors, but none of them was the primary one.

    My theory is that people who normally vote Liberal were understandably terrified that The Project co-host and author Lisa Wilkinson would write another of her excruciating open letters to Scott Morrison if his government were re-elected. That alone would be enough to make conservatives vote for anyone else, even the Greens, in desperation.

    Foreign debut

    In a press conference at Tokyo this week, Albanese was chutzpah personified. “What we shouldn’t do, when we speak about Australia’s national interest, is try to score cheap political domestic points by doing it,” he said.

    This from the former opposition leader who has spent the last three years undermining the Morrison government over foreign policy, even implicitly siding with Beijing in 2020 when he accused the Coalition of having “presided over a complete breakdown” with China.

    But aside from that, Albanese’s first international conference as prime minister seems to have gone well. Amazingly, in his opening statement to Quad leaders he resisted the urge to tell them he is the son of a single mother and grew up in public housing in Camperdown. He has also established a rapport with US President Joe Biden, which could be explained by the many things they have in common, particularly their difficulty in getting across briefs and answering press questions.

    The other foreign policy priority is establishing a “First Nations foreign policy,” the brainchild of Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong. “It counters narratives from countries that seek advantage over us,” she explained earlier this month, saying it would deepen “long-held ties across countries of the Indo-Pacific”. This, I am certain, is a brilliant strategy that will convince Solomon Islands Prime Minister Manasseh Sogavare to tear up the security agreement with Beijing and forbid the construction of a Chinese military base in his country.

    As for New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, she would be delighted that her Australian counterpart is also a socialist who moonlights as a DJ. We can expect her, however, to press Albanese to drop the practice of deporting Kiwis from Australia who have been sentenced to 12 months or more imprisonment, else risk a public haranguing at Kirribilli House.

    Holding him to account

    The domestic issues that Albanese has inherited are considerable, particularly standard of living. Home ownership, rising interest rates, inflation, crippling petrol and energy prices, burgeoning debt, and wage parity are just a few. He has promised to address them, and the media must hold him to account, as it did Morrison. Whether it will is another matter. For example, on Saturday evening an exuberant Patricia Karvelas tweeted a selfie of herself and Labor frontbencher Linda Burney.

    She was, said the host of ABC’s RN Breakfast, “a legend”.

    Do not expect former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull to stop his meddling tweets soon, especially if Peter Dutton becomes Liberal leader as expected.

    That rancour has not dwindled any.

    Turnbull could play tag team with WA Premier Mark McGowan, who last week blasted Dutton for saying the presence of a Chinese warship near Perth was an “aggressive act”.

    That statement was “highly dangerous” rhetoric, according to McGowan.

    “It’s inflammatory and unnecessary and I just think he’s the biggest threat to the national security,” he said. This was the same premier who last year was praised by China’s foreign affairs spokesman and firebrand Zhao Lijian for criticising the Morrison government’s stance on China. On a completely unrelated note, does anyone know how to say ‘Sneakers’ in Mandarin?

    THE MOCKER
    The Mocker amuses himself by calling out poseurs, sneering social commentators, and po-faced officials. He is deeply suspicious of those who seek increased regulation of speech and behaviour.

  123. calli Avatar
    calli

    The “let out clause” for lying is the same as it ever was. Confession and repentance.

    The Bee’s “Fake News You Can Trust” couldn’t be plainer. They are up front, witty and eviscerating. Shame other sites aren’t as honest, especially the brayers hiding behind some sort of faith credentials. How many times have you seen a “we got it wrong” admission?

    The US is fertile ground for these types. I’ve watched some since the 80’s, when they captured friends with similar garbage. They’ve just moved from hokey prophetic books to the webs.

  124. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    “If man made a public comment about a woman’s appearance he would be sacked or demoted at the very least” h/t Gemma Tognini.

    You don’t have to make fun of hatchet face plibers, just zero in on her convicted for drug dealing hubbie.

  125. calli Avatar
    calli

    In other news, I still haven’t met anyone who admits to voting either Labor or Teal.

  126. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Gaborsays:
    May 26, 2022 at 7:14 am

    Quite right, sadly a lot of peeps like bespoke are not quite up with history and geography.

    Oh! Good full patratronizing not the usual ankl biting.
    Tell me
    How long have they been there?
    Are they mostly fundamentalists?
    How much contact do they have with the ME?

    The Serbs. Defenders Christendom? Yes or no.

    Feel free to consult wikipedia as you do.

    Sect,branch. Meh!

  127. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    how strict is the exam?

    For your delectation and enjoyment
    https://ace.nesa.nsw.edu.au/ace-4060

  128. dover0beach Avatar

    Arnaud Bertrand
    @RnaudBertrand
    ·
    32m
    RIP property rights.

    This sends a message to all nations out there: if you own something in Europe, it’s entirely conditional to you being in their good graces.
    Quote Tweet

    Dave Keating
    @DaveKeating
    · 20h
    Breaking: ??Commission right now proposing new law to confiscate and sell Russian assets in the union.

    This is a big step beyond just freezing the assets, which is what they’ve done already.

    The pox has liquefied their brains.

  129. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    KD.
    Close some tabs.
    Put down the pipe.
    Get some sleep.

  130. m0nty Avatar
    m0nty

    The details coming out about the Uvalde massacre are harrowing.

    There was an armed security guard. He got shot.

    There was a metal door to protect the classroom. The shooter got inside before revealing himself.

    The cops turned up and established a perimeter without going inside. They spent their time holding back concerned parents, several of them even pinning down one particularly agitated father.

    What a disaster.

  131. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    RIP property rights.

    Been increasing ever since they invented “bailing in” when those Cypriot banks went bust.
    Accelerated lately with Trudy and the truckers, and now this excuse. So typical of lefty elites.

  132. m0nty Avatar
    m0nty

    I voted Green in the House for my neighbour who was their candidate, she ended up getting a 3% swing. Then I balanced that with a vote for Labor in the Senate, reversing my usual hedging.

  133. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Do no Wong! What does this actually mean?

    Wong: Pacific nations ignored on climate
    Ben Packham

    Foriegn Minister Penny Wong says Pacific nations have been ignored and disrespected by past Australian governments that had failed “to act responsibly on climate change”.

    But, speaking in Fiji to the Pacific Island Forum, Senator Wong said the Albanese government had ended the “climate wars” in Australia and would “stand shoulder to shoulder with our Pacific family in response to this crisis”.

    In her first speech in her new role, Senator Wong told the Pacific Island Forum in Suva that Australia’s new Albanese government had heard their concerns.

    “I understand that – under past governments – Australia has neglected its responsibility to act on climate change.

    “Ignoring the calls of our Pacific family to act, disrespecting Pacific nations in their struggle to adapt to what is an existential threat.

    “I want to assure you that we have heard you.”

    Senator Wong said Australia would “remain a critical development partner for the Pacific family” in coming years.

    “We are a partner that won’t come with strings attached, nor impose unsustainable financial burdens.

    “We are a partner that won’t erode Pacific priorities or institutions. Instead, we believe in transparency. We believe in true partnerships.”

    The speech came as Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi embarked on an unprecedented eight-nation tour of the region, beginning in the Solomon Islands.

    Mr Wang will also visit Fiji next week, where he will seek agreement from ten PIF countries for a wide-ranging deal for offering policing, security, cyber support, and a new China-Pacific free-trade agreement.

    Senator Wong said the Albanese government would deepen maritime and defence support for the region and “offer quality, climate resilient infrastructure”.

    It would also expand opportunities for Pacific workers in Australia, improve their working conditions, and allow them to bring their families with them.

    “And we will create the Pacific engagement visa – to provide a pathway to permanency for 3000 members of our Pacific family per year.

    “But ultimately, our relationship with our Pacific family is not a suite of initiatives. It cannot be counted in dollars or MOUs.

    “It is so much more. Nothing will change our geography, our proximity. Nothing will change the fact that our future is intertwined.”

  134. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    KD.
    Close some tabs.

    Sick denialism. The sort of thing an Indian (woman) would say.

  135. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    How strict is the exam?

    Face painting.
    You still couldn’t pass it.

  136. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    Seems Qld electricity prices going up 12% and Govt giving rebate equal to $375 m to help out.

    I guess it is ok to give money away when you are over $100 billion in debt.

    Wish I had a credit card that other people paid.

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Federal election 2022: Curtin: Liberal Celia Hammond concedes defeat to teal independent Kate Chaney
    Peter Law
    The West Australian
    Thu, 26 May 2022 3:02PM
    Comments
    Celia Hammond has conceded defeat to teal independent Kate Chaney in Curtin, saying it had been a “privilege and honour” to represent the electorate.

    In a statement to The West Australian on Thursday afternoon, Ms Hammond congratulated Ms Chaney on becoming the seat’s sixth MP.

    “As further counting has been undertaken by the AEC over recent days, it has become clear that Ms Kate Chaney will become the sixth person to be elected to represent the division of Curtin in the Federal Parliament,” she said.

  138. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    And Cassie just for laughs say the unbanning of Trump and other’s on Twitter is the equivalent of the fall of Berlin wall again.
    LOL!

  139. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    Top Endersays:
    May 26, 2022 at 5:06 pm
    Do no Wong! What does this actually mean?

    It means, there goes sovereignty, here comes the CCP…because The Climate.

  140. 2dogs Avatar
    2dogs

    .1 Rising interest rates.
    .2 Inflation on general consumer staples over this term.
    .3 The Teals inevitably exposing themselves as Kenneally types.
    .4 Energy prices going off the scale.

    (1), (2), & (4) will cost the ALP primary votes. They don’t have many. While the votes they lose won’t be going [1] Liberal, they will find their numbers decimated in much the same way the Teals have decimated the Libs at this last election.

    Expect a lot of Greens next election.

    To deal with that, the Libs need to deactivate climate change as an election issue by having a plebiscite on nuclear.

  141. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Matt Canavan above speaks such good sense. Of course net zero is a socialist’s dream.

    What needs to be done now is to show how much fake science is in the CO2 hypothesis, because nothing will change unless people’s perceptions of the threat are changed and become diminished or even abandonned. It’s just like Covid. While people are terrified they are open to the most awful abuses of power. Take away the terror, show how confected and unrealistic it has been, and common sense returns again.

  142. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Wong Cow-toes to the Chi-coms because they are good carbon buddies.

    The reality.
    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1632/idt2/idt2/9cc12cf8-9b60-4f81-a55d-e76173741825/image/816

    Report: China emissions exceed all developed nations combined

    I hear aldi bags full of cash make great carbon sequesters…

  143. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Apart from destroying some of the wet libs, if the ALP gets a majority in the HoR, what influence can the Teals wield?

    For a start, they’re representing Liberal Electorates where the combined Liberal/Teal vote was up to 80%, they’ll be on Parliamentary Committees, they’ll get a reasonable number of questions in Question Time, the Labor Government will be listening to them because Albanese is only a heartbeat away from Minority Government, Allegra Spender can give the Labor Hags a few Good Grooming tips …

  144. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    I hear aldi bags full of cash make great carbon sequesters…

    trucks full and sweetened with honeypots

  145. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Ed, glad you are back.

    Care to expand on how the more than 30%+ of households in Indonesia without refrigeration will benefit from your mutton led trade bonanza to replace live exports?

  146. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Ed Casesays:
    May 26, 2022 at 5:14 pm
    How strict is the exam?

    Face painting.
    You still couldn’t pass it.

    Perhaps you could post your efforts here, Dickless?

  147. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    munty

    While you are on the subject, have you yet worked out the difference between gun culture and gang culcha in the US? Do you need help?

  148. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Re refrigerators in Indo, yes correct, not there, that is why the population buys its daily meat each day in the wet markets. The shop owner kills enough cattle 1-2? very early in the morning so the meat arrives at the wet market in time for shopping and is consumed that very day – thus no need for refrigeration.

    What does the shopkeeper do with the “1 or 2” hides, the heads, feet, viscera, all the fat left over every day in your imaginary Country where no one owns a refrigerator but everyone eats Australian Beef every day?

  149. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    dark grey Wagga type blankets

    Sheer bloody looxury, Calli. No matter where we have stayed, high end hotel or peasant cottage, the bedding has been the same, doonas of the type you once so correctly labelled ‘atomic’. I have to remove the cover from these to use as a top sheet, then scrabble around to find some alternative covering in addition to that. I usually leave it too late to call for alternatives, so I have on occasion even been reduced to using the towels. Luckily, Hairy mostly finds just the doona doduble-sheet enough for him in Britain’s overheated houses (most places still run the towel heater – which can’t be turned off – in the bathroom).

    For myself, I have purchased for its ready convenience in some museum shop a woolen rug at ridiculous cost: prickly hand-made wool straight off the sheep in ancient Briton check dyes, against which your Wagga-tech blanky would win hands down. This goes over the doona sheet just for my side of the bed. Luckily, for these more chilly Peak district nights, I have found in a cupboard a magnificent pink and baby-blue nylon satin embroidered creation of a light coverlet which we also using, even though a naked Hairy looks somewhat incongruous under it and my woolen ancient Briton rug over it on my side looks as though someone has let an Afghan hound in by mistake. The original atomic doona in its purple cover I have lumped up and pushed under the brass bedstead where it is slowly oozing out like some subterration hibernating animal unfolding from slumber.

  150. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Care to expand on how the more than 30%+ of households in Indonesia without refrigeration will benefit from your mutton led trade bonanza to replace live exports?

    Hi, Cornholio.
    Nah, i’m not responding to your strawman, but tell me this:
    Are you okay with Processing of Australian Grown ruminants being done in Indonesia rather than Australia?

  151. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I should add, for health’s sake, that we do have a provided washable sheet separating us from the wedding confection. We are not crass enough to inflict on this coverlet our uncovered selves.

  152. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    PM marks Sorry Day with recommitment to Uluru Statement
    Noah Yim
    NOAH YIM

    Anthony Albanese has repeated his commitment to the Uluru Statement from the Heart on the 25th anniversary of the stolen children report.

    “On National Sorry Day, we mark the 25th anniversary of the tabling of the Bringing Them Home report,” the Prime Minister said in a statement marking National Sorry Day.

    “My government will continue this journey by honouring the Uluru Statement from the Heart. That First Nations people have extended their hand to non-Indigenous Australia this way stands as an act of grace, one which will bring us close together as a nation.”

    The Uluru statement calls for two specific policy actions: a Makarrata commission to start an agreement-making, truth-telling process, and a voice to parliament enshrined in the Constitution.

    Mr Albanese, in the opening of his victory speech on Saturday, committed his government to the Uluru statement.

    “On behalf of the Australian Labor Party, I commit to the Uluru Statement from the Heart in full,” Mr Albanese said.

    Labor has promised a referendum to insert into the constitution an Indigenous voice to parliament in its first term.

    The previous Morrison government vacillated on the issue and ultimately failed to bring a watered-down, legislated model to the parliament.

    Former Indigenous affairs minister Ken Wyatt, after he lost his seat in last weekend’s election, said he would vote in favour of a voice to parliament if brought to a referendum.

  153. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Scanning the court lists for Fat Cloive’s electoral challenge.
    Nup.
    Naffink.
    BTW Ed, when exactly was it you said the AEC guy carried the box of summink home with him?
    Was it 1:00 a.m. on election night?

  154. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Expect a lot of Greens next election.

    Yeah, they’ve proven that they can win just about any ALP Seat.

    To deal with that, the Libs need to deactivate climate change as an election issue by having a plebiscite on nuclear.

    Nuclear isn’t acceptable as a NetZero alternative, Germany is in the process of shutting down their Nuclear Plants right now.
    Your suggestion is stupid.

  155. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    except when the LNP/Nat, ALP and Greens combine

    Yep, the Uniparty has the balance of power.

  156. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    BTW Ed, when exactly was it you said the AEC guy carried the box of summink home with him?
    Was it 1:00 a.m. on election night?

    That’s your fairytale, Struth.
    Uh, I mean, Sancho.

  157. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Yet France is ramping their nuclear up.

  158. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    So you have no position on whether the AEC guy took stuff home then, Ed?
    And what day and time it was?

  159. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    So you have no position on whether the AEC guy took stuff home then, Ed?

    Who cares, Snatcho, they’re all corrupt, you know it, I know it.

    And what day and time it was?

    Refer to the above.

  160. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Yet France is ramping their nuclear up.

    Nuclear Power is an Electoral dead loss issue in Australia.
    Weren’t you following the Election we just had?

  161. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Joining the Lieboral Party seems a bit … err … extreme. I’m still recovering from a meeting of the Young Liberals at Steves sometime in the 80s.

  162. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Noted Ed.
    So you will be staying out of that little debate from now on, then?

  163. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    In a 2GB radio interview, [Peter] Dutton said he believed the Coalition could win the next election.
    Surprise! surprise! .. what else is he gonna say? .. LOL!

    Not unless it can pick up a heap of primary votes from somewhere it can’t.

  164. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “H B Bearsays:
    May 26, 2022 at 6:20 pm
    Joining the Lieboral Party seems a bit … err … extreme. I’m still recovering from a meeting of the Young Liberals at Steves sometime in the 80s.”

    Sunday afternoon at Steves in the 1980s. We’d start the weekend by going to The Red Parrott, The Silver Slipper and Club Bayview.

    Bear, I went to a few Liberal party meetings/functions in Perth in the mid 1980s….it was very Claremont/Peppermint Grove, Mosman, Dalkeith and Nedlands. I remember Bill Hassell and Charles Court being at one function.

  165. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Hmm, hates a link, Ill post till I work out which one.

    Ed asks a retarded question.

    In doing so he answers one of the eternal puzzles of mankind.

    Does a mong know they are a mong, or do they just assume things happen around them while they sail on undisturbed on the USS Ignorance?

    What does the shopkeeper do with the “1 or 2” hides, the heads, feet, viscera, all the fat left over

    In a poverty stricken country?? (or at least one with areas of deep poverty)

    “1 or 2” hides = Tanning, to make money, or sell to someone who will do so https://www.wildindo.com/vegetable-tanned-leather/

    the heads = Eaten
    https://www.thetraveltart.com/how-to-eat-rujak-cingur-cows-nose-with-peanut-sauce/

    feet = Eaten

    viscera = do I really have to say it… eaten

    fat = Monty eats it

  166. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Dickless seems to be in a state of panic. Something about (clean, carbon free) nuclear power.

  167. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Why any flavor of authoritarianism must be destroyed

    However, I also want to be very clear on something else, namely that I hate all forms of authoritarianism. I honestly don’t care if you call it communism, socialism, fascism, or fruity-froo-frooism, if it is predicated on anything but individual liberty, I’m going to have a problem with it.

    Via instapundit.

  168. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Heres the link it didnt like, broken up

    A recipe for cow foot curry.
    http://original-indonesian-recipe.blogspot.com/2010/09/gulai-kikil-indonesian-cows-foot-curry.html

  169. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Nuclear Power is an Electoral dead loss issue in Australia.
    Weren’t you following the Election we just had?”

    Eddy, I did follow the election we just had. I don’t remember either party talking about nuclear power. The only party that had nuclear power in its platform was the Liberal Democrats.

    Given Morrison’s suicidal decision to sign up to net zero emission, it may have been countered if they had gone to the election asking for a mandate to develop nuclear power. But the Coalition wimped, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the wimpiness was drive by moderates like Sharma and Zimmerman.
    I think the Liberals must take nuclear power to the next election.

  170. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Are you okay with Processing of Australian Grown ruminants being done in Indonesia rather than Australia?

    100%.

  171. m0nty Avatar

    I think the Liberals must take nuclear power to the next election.

    They were a bit low energy this election, but that seems extreme.

  172. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Nuclear isn’t acceptable as a NetZero alternative, Germany is in the process of shutting down their Nuclear Plants right now.
    Your suggestion is stupid.

    England isn’t. Neither are the chunks. And the situation in Krautland is not so straight forward.

  173. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    thefrollickingmole says: May 26, 2022 at 6:33 pm

    Are you okay with Processing of Australian Grown ruminants being done in Indonesia rather than Australia?

    100%.

    Whoever posed that is asking the wrong question.

    Correct question:
    Are you okay with Australia eschewing the opportunity to be the supplier of the ruminants Indonesia will continue to process?

  174. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Cassie – really just dipped my toe in the water. My mother was a Liberal Party member around the time of Andrew Mensaros. I think one member of the Kalis family used to lay on seafood for the branch meetings. Yep a pretty heavy Western Suburbs bias in those days, not sure about now.

  175. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    When mUnty gets back from Malmo, he and Groogs should do a fact finding mission into the Indonesian cold chain. Plenty of flights now.

  176. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Are you okay with Australia eschewing the opportunity to be the supplier of the ruminants Indonesia will continue to process?

    Especially when the ruminants supplied by alternative suppliers are infected with “foot and mouth” disease, and it’s a matter of when, not if, said FMD breaks out in Australia, and costs the agricultural sector billions of dollars?

  177. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    I think the Liberals must take nuclear power to the next election.

    Particularly when power bills are off the charts after we ditch Dirdy Coal and also that Carbin Polludant, gas.

  178. Dot Avatar

    NT will soon have two Aboriginal Senators.

    A few more MPs can claim Aboriginal heritage.

    There’s your representation.

    Surprisingly, sometimes the system works.

  179. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Given Morrison’s suicidal decision to sign up to net zero emission,

    Yet it wasn’t suicidal for Albanese to promise to get to NetZero 15 years earlier than the Coalition?
    How do you explain this?

  180. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Noted Ed.
    So you will be staying out of that little debate from now on, then?

    What debate’s that, Snatcho?
    All i’ve seen is Limited Hangout from your various sockPuppets over AEC shenanigans.
    Wanna bet Palmer doesn’t suddenly do very well in the Senate counts from yesterday on in?
    Course you don’t.

  181. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    I think the Liberals must take nuclear power to the next election.

    Peter Dutton has decided to take a broad church instead.

    Good luck.

  182. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    When mUnty gets back from Malmo, he and Groogs should do a fact finding mission into the Indonesian cold chain. Plenty of flights now.

    Helen reckons there’s no Cold Chain in Indonesia, the shopkeeper kills 1 or 2? every day and sells the meat, guts, feet, head at the Wet Market and tans the Hide when he gets back home.

  183. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Yet it wasn’t suicidal for Albanese to promise to get to NetZero 15 years earlier than the Coalition? How do you explain this?

    Easy.

    The consequences haven’t kicked in yet.

    When they do, all bets are off.

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A few more MPs can claim Aboriginal heritage.

    Including Jacquie Lambie.

  185. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Yet it wasn’t suicidal for Albanese to promise to get to NetZero 15 years earlier than the Coalition?
    How do you explain this?

    It’s a good question.
    I think the answer is that nobody believes in climate doom-mongering but they expect it of Labor, from whom other welfare goods (or even just the good of “a change”) might also come. When the Liberal Party espouses the same doom, however, this is read (correctly) not merely as pandering but as institutional identity crisis. As insincerity. I also think voters want to school the Liberal Party for its own good and for theirs. Voting them out is an investment in a better alternative and better governance next time around.

    The biggest mistake, thematically, in the government’s campaign was the war-mongering. After the ‘pandemic,’ there was zero appetite left for what The Australian called in one editorial a “long war” against Wussia and China. Australia cannot do anything about either. We sign up for alliances and that’s all we can do.

  186. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Helen reckons there’s no Cold Chain in Indonesia, the shopkeeper kills 1 or 2? every day and sells the meat, guts, feet, head at the Wet Market and tans the Hide when he gets back home.

    Don’t guess. Hire a scooter, get on a ferry and get back to us. Don’t forget some photos and a Bintang singlet for next summer.

  187. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NT will soon have two Aboriginal Senators.

    West Australia has two Aboriginal Senators – Pat Dodson and Dorinda Cox.

  188. Thefrollickingmole Avatar
    Thefrollickingmole

    Ed Mong ignores the link posted yesterday pointing out around 40% of Indo households don’t have fridges.

    It also ignores that in Indo it’s not all t bone steaks and frozen mince at woolies.

  189. calli Avatar
    calli

    Furthermore on the “atomic doona”….

    We have had several experiences here, on arguably the hottest continent on earth. Why? Because it’s easy to make up a bed using the rotten things. They look plush and lux, just like the styling mags. They are a foretaste of Hell.

    No wonder certain cultures sleep unclad on top of the entire idiotic edifice. And, yes…yik. And wariness of bedspreads from the naturally cautious.

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