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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2022 12:00 pm

Mother Lodesays:

June 3, 2022 at 11:14 am

The young ladies with their trolleys picking out stuff for online shoppers have multiplied like tribbles.

Maybe I am weird but I prefer to be involved in selecting the food I will eat, and do choose somethings over others. I would not even just take random selections …

Err, they are not random selections.
Online shoppers invariably get stuff which is on the cusp of the “Use By” date.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2022 12:02 pm

Ms Stanley made accusations that some Indigenous communities were “concentration camps”

Thar’s a fvcking insult to anyone who survived one of those hellholes.

m0nty
m0nty
June 3, 2022 12:06 pm

They could benefit from Hare-Clarke proportional representation with multi member electorates.

Would that require a referendum though? Much harder to get passed if so.

The Libs and Labor combined to modify the Tasmanian H-C system to benefit themselves and shut out the Greens in 1998. I reckon the Greens would have long memories on that one, and if they can find an ally for some revenge at the federal level they would jump at the chance.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2022 12:06 pm

Read on dear reader.
Yes, Colesworth stock-pickers are instructed to pick stuff close to use-by and dinted cans etc.
Obviously online shopping for pick-up would be done in each supermarket but I reckon picking for home delivery might be concentrated on selected supermarkets, which is why it might appear to be more prevalent than it really is.

2dogs
2dogs
June 3, 2022 12:12 pm

Tried it a couple of times. The delivery windows were (then) three hours long. The first one was 0600 to 0900, the next 1800 to 2000. Not wildly convenient!

Noticeably better when ordered via UberEats for immediate delivery.

IGA have been on there for a while, some Woolies shops are now getting on there.

Roger
Roger
June 3, 2022 12:23 pm

Thar’s a fvcking insult to anyone who survived one of those hellholes.

Yes, they’re laying it on a bit too thick, but its fun to see some indigenous folk have left the socialist reserve and are throwing a spanner in the works of Elbow’s would be legacy project.

They won’t be impressed by Linda Burney wearing a kangaroo pelt either.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2022 12:26 pm

PM says no live sheep export ban this term
Paul OsborneAAP
Fri, 3 June 2022 9:31AM

A ban on live sheep exports from Australia is at least three years away.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese went to the election promising to ban the trade, which has been criticised by animal welfare groups but generates thousands of jobs and millions of dollars in export revenue.

Mr Albanese told ABC Perth radio on Friday the phase-out would not occur this term.

“No one’s envisaging a phase-out in in this term of government,” he said.

“We’ll sit down and we’ll work these issues through cooperatively and respectfully.”

He said his government respected farmers while also wanting to make sure animal welfare issues were looked after.

“We haven’t put a timeframe on that because we want to make sure that we consult with farmers … and work it through in a cooperative way to make sure we get a win-win situation.”

The government was committed to the northern summer export ban which was already in place, he said.

He said the live cattle trade would not be included in the government’s deliberations.

WA Premier Mark McGowan said during the election appropriate safeguards were in place to keep the trade operating, including the suspension of exports over the northern summer, extra vet checks and monitoring on ships.

Australia exports around two million live sheep each year, with the major destinations being Kuwait, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Oman, Jordan, Israel and Malaysia.

The Greens went to the election calling for an immediate ban on the trade, arguing sheep routinely die horrific deaths and suffer immense heat stress.

Sheep suffer immense heat stress when the crew accept money from Animals Australia to turn off the fans and ventilation, and record the results……..

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2022 12:26 pm

m0nty-fa

The Libs and Labor combined to modify the Tasmanian H-C system to benefit themselves and shut out the Greens in 1998.

The UNiParty at work. Look after themselves first.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2022 12:29 pm

They won’t be impressed by Linda Burney wearing a kangaroo pelt either.

Given that the lady is half Scots…

cohenite
June 3, 2022 12:36 pm

Fancy that; engaging with a full blown leftie at the spectator and I mention that biden said: if a black doesn’t vote for him he ain’t black and I get censored as spam.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

…no Aboriginal, until European settlement, would have ever set foot on Great Keppel.

That’s a big call Cassie.
A very big call.

duncanm
duncanm
June 3, 2022 12:48 pm

…no Aboriginal, until European settlement, would have ever set foot on Great Keppel.

mmmmm… Stone Tools from the Keppel Islands

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 3, 2022 12:51 pm

For the first time, Labor voters earn more than Coalition voters

Households in Labor electorates now earn $8580 more a year than those in Coalition seats – a shift that could have profound effects on politics.

Politics flipped two weeks ago. The average Labor voter now earns more than their Coalition counterpart.

An $8580 Labor-Coalition pay gap emerged this election, and could have profound consequences for politics, policy and the two-party system.

Under the Morrison government, households in Liberal electorates averaged $126,940 in income last year, Roy Morgan Research calculates. This was about 4 per cent higher than the $121,020 earned by households in Labor seats.

Labor and the Liberals changed places at the 2022 election. At $118,880 a year, households in Liberal seats now earn 2.6 per cent, or $3140 a year, less than Labor-seat dwellers.

The gap between the Coalition and wealthier Labor seats is 7 per cent, or $8580. And residents of Greens and independent-held seats are even wealthier. Their average household income last year was $145,690.

The income data may help explain why both main parties are behaving in ways contrary to their historical allegiances. The Labor Party has promised to subsidise childcare for families earning $500,000, and new Liberal leader Peter Dutton has acknowledged his party’s relationship with big business is breaking down.

The 2022 election may come to be seen as a historical pivot point, which forces the Coalition – the dominant power in Australian politics for seven decades – to evaluate its purpose, values and structure.

“The Liberal Party is becoming Labor and Labor is becoming the Liberal Party,” an investment banker who lives in the Sydney seat of Wentworth said this week. “I’ve voted Liberal most of my life. Now I find myself reconsidering.”

Wealthy Australians, especially those who send their children to private schools, are detaching themselves from the party that had, until a few years ago, made financial rectitude and lower taxes its primary mission.

Almost by default, the Coalition is becoming the voice of the working and lower middle-classes – and a perceived bulwark against inner-city values and priorities.

The voting-income effects were seen across the metropolitan sprawls. Today, of the 15 highest-earning electorates, seven are held by independents, five by the Labor Party and three by the Coalition (Bradfield, Berowra and Mitchell.) While six Liberal MPs fell to “teal” independents, three of the poorest five electorates swung right.

During the election campaign, less wealthy voters’ primary complaint was inflation, especially petrol, according to some rural Liberal MPs. Those basic living concerns represent a political pressure, or opportunity, that may influence Coalition policy in opposition.

For instance, Dutton might see more benefit in opposing expensive new transmission networks to connect solar and wind farms to the national grid than advocating for business tax cuts.

But as the flip in the relationship between income and party affiliation forces both main parties to adjust policy priorities, they’re losing support in the transition.

The Labor Party’s 33 per cent primary vote this year would have once been considered too low to win government. The Coalition’s was only 36 per cent.

Breakdown has been building

The conditions for the breakdown in big-party allegiances have been building for a generation, says Sarah Cameron, a Sydney University political scientist.

They were, though, hidden by preferential voting, which forced disillusioned voters to choose one of the major parties – until generously funded independent candidates arrived.

They tapped into two big changes in Australian society, according to Cameron. “Younger voters are more left-wing today than earlier generations, and women have become much less likely to vote for the Coalition,” she says.

Scott Morrison, and his party, appealed to neither.

Perhaps blinded by the success of the 2019 campaign, Morrison didn’t seem to appreciate that ostentatious masculinity repelled many educated women. No female counterweight existed at the top of the government to provide balance.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
June 3, 2022 12:55 pm

Sudan beckons

Activist and writer Yassmin Abdel-Magied has taken a brutal swipe at the Queen’s platinum jubilee celebration, claiming the presence of so many Union Jack flags in her adopted homeland is like a ‘waking nightmare’.

Furious commenters fired back at the remark, with some telling her to ‘go back to Australia’.

The private-school educated former mechanical engineer recently admitted drama ‘always’ finds her.

‘I didn’t go looking for the drama, but somehow, I tended to attract it,’ the activist reflected on the controversy.

‘I think that, quite often, I was maybe a little ahead of my time.’

‘I feel a little bit betrayed by Australia, because it’s my country and these are my country people and it’s my home, and to sort of fight for your right to exist in your home country — it’s exhausting,’ she said at the time.

dopey
dopey
June 3, 2022 12:56 pm

Last one, I promise.
The coalition wasted 10 years. If Scott Morrison had held up a photo of the sun and announced that we don’t need to be afraid of this, by now we would have an energy market dominated by renewables. Electric and hydrogen cars and trucks would dominate our roads. And miners would have productive jobs as tradies and farmers. Instead, my region of limitless sunshine is powered by diesel generators.
David Neilson, Araluen (NT)

duncanm
duncanm
June 3, 2022 12:57 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
June 3, 2022 at 11:04 am
Yep. And you have to wonder why local Aborigines are consulted because no Aboriginal, until European settlement, would have ever set foot on Great Keppel.

let’s revisit this.. because it is incredibly ignorant.

From the man himself, James Cook

Sunday 27 May 1770

At Noon we were about 2 Leagues from the Mainland and by observation in the Latitude of 22°..53? So Longitude made from Cape Capricorn 20 Miles west, At this time the northermost point of land we had in sight bore NNW distant 10 Miles this point I named C. Manyfold from the number of high hills over it Latitude 22°..43? So it lies N 26° West distant 17? Leagues from C. Capricorn between them the shore forms a large bay which I call’d Keppel Bay and the Islands which lay in and off it are in known by the same name. In this Bay is it Lay are a great number of Islands and good anchorage every where where there is a sufficient depth of water What refreshments it may afford for shipping I know not we caught no fish here not withstanding we was were the le at anchor — It can hardly be doubted but what it affords fresh water in more several place as both main land and Islands are inhabited, we saw smooks by day and fires in the night upon the Main and people upon one of the Islands —

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 3, 2022 12:59 pm

Funny Great Keppel story.

I did some part-time divemaster work at Great Keppel in the 1980s. Was in the days when the resort was absolutely booming. I was working for Haven Diving, the only dive shop on the island, and so technically not working for the resort, but did see some of their paperwork. One of the more memorable memos was that staff were to stop referring to female day-trippers as “loopies”. That label was applied because they came over for a day and then went loopy with anything male who would consent, and so on.

One of my fellow divemasters was a crazy chap. Into pulling practical jokes and doing silly things underwater and so on, but a very capable bloke too. He did attack me with a one foot crab he’d picked up off the bottom one day, by sneaking up from behind and banging it into my facemask suddenly – was like being attached by the Alien monster. In return two days later I hung a brick off his tank on two metres of rope.

Anyway, I digress.

One day he was round the back of the dive shop in the staff-only section of the yard. He was making something out of a sheet of timber and a couple of two by fours lengths. After some time it became a shark’s fin, painted grey, and about 1 x 1 metre. The heavier pieces were to attach to his scuba tank.

To great amusement from all – but not the diveshop owner, who remained in the dark – he set himself up to get into the water at dusk on Fishermans Beach, the main one off the front of the tourist resort. He was about 50 metres off the beach and there were still tourists in the water, but not for long. Mass screaming and so on. He managed most of the length of the beach, nicely submerged about four foot under the water, with a convincing upper of “shark fin” protruding.

It all went very well, except over drinks in the staff resort area he would talk about it. Said he was going to do it again. Anyway, management visited the dive shop the next day, and there was vigorous discussion, and he was told to leave. Bid sad as he was a great chap, but he did have a large bite mark halfway up his arm from teasing a shark – a story for another day.

duncanm
duncanm
June 3, 2022 12:59 pm

zyconoclastsays:
June 3, 2022 at 12:55 pm
Sudan beckons

Activist and writer Yassmin Abdel-Magied has taken a brutal swipe at the Queen’s platinum jubilee celebration, claiming the presence of so many Union Jack flags in her adopted homeland is like a ‘waking nightmare’.

Furious commenters fired back at the remark, with some telling her to ‘go back to Australia’.

please, christ no!

can’t she just fuck off back to Sudan and tweet from there how wonderful the place is?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2022 1:04 pm

Whether Aborigines went on holiday on Great Keppel Island or not, is not really the point.
The point is that regulators and “custodians” were lining up to soak Gina for every last dollar, and generally make pricks of themselves.
So she pulled the pin.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 3, 2022 1:20 pm

Business has gone woke – so Libs should focus on Dandenong not Davos

Peter Dutton was right to dismiss corporate Australia as being more in step with Labor and the Greens. The automatic and close relationship between the centre-right of politics and big business is over.

John RoskamColumnist

Anthony Albanese’s election victory has prompted all sorts of interesting reactions. Apparently, company boards should now start purging their ranks of “right-wingers”. That’s the view of Graeme Bricknell of the executive search and consulting firm, Korn Ferry.

As reported last week in this newspaper, according to Bricknell: “Boards need to pay attention [to the election]. If you’re a die-in-the-ditch, right-wing board member with fixed views about how things were done 15 years ago, your time is nigh.”

It’s unclear whether after the Coalition’s federal election victories in 2013, 2016 and 2019 Bricknell said companies should cleanse themselves of left-wing directors.

Also unclear is what part of the election result company boards should supposedly be paying attention to.

Labor got 32.70 per cent of the primary vote and the barest of parliamentary majorities in the House of Representatives. The Coalition got 36.04 per cent of the vote, the Greens 11.9 per cent, while together the Liberal Democrats, One Nation and the United Australia Party got 10.7 per cent of the vote.

To most observers that’s a finely balanced outcome, revealing the need for magnanimity and moderation from our political and corporate leaders, rather than the justification for a radical reconstruction of the country.

Presumed political purity, not business acumen is now the prerequisite for selection to the board of a large Australian public company.

The only thing unusual about Bricknell’s opinion is he expressed it aloud. It’s exactly how most members of the company boards of big businesses think. Presumed political purity, not business acumen is now the prerequisite for selection to the board of a large Australian public company.

For example, it’s almost impossible to imagine an executive recruitment firm recommending or a company board accepting the appointment of a director who publicly questioned the wisdom of changing the Australian constitution to permanently enshrine racial difference.

A candidate for an executive or board position, who said they believed in what until very recently had been a core principle of liberal democracy, namely that all citizens are entitled to equal political rights regardless of their race, would probably never be heard of again.

Simply describing big business as “woke” doesn’t do justice to the transformation that’s occurred in corporate Australia over the past two decades. The rise of the industry superannuation funds, the influence of the “corporate social responsibility” movement, and the affluence of economic prosperity are not trends helpful to the political prospects of the Liberal Party.

And the Liberal Party as it usually is when it comes to issues of culture and values, has been caught completely flat-footed.

In the same way they still hold the quaint notion the average resident of Wentworth or Kooyong will vote for them (a fortnight ago Liberals received 41 per cent of first preferences in that first seat and 43 per cent in the second), Liberal MPs continue to be angered, frustrated and vexed by the support (or lack of) they get from big business. But they shouldn’t be.

One of the great insights of the keenest observer of the political economy of the 20th century. Joseph Schumpeter, was that big business has a bigger interest in itself than it does in the maintenance of the capitalist system – and the “creative destruction” of capitalism (a term Schumpeter coined) is, in fact, a threat to big business.

The marriage of big business to political conservatism whether in Australia, the US, or the UK has only ever been one of convenience. As soon as the conservatives’ opponents shed their adherence to outright socialism, any allegiance big business had to the centre-right of politics was dispensed with.

A few days ago, when Peter Dutton in one of his first statements as opposition leader “dismissed corporate Australia as being more in step with Labor and the Greens” he crystallised the second of the two great realignments represented by the 2022 federal election result.

The first is that the old electoral heartland of the Liberal Party is now Labor, Greens or teal.

The second is the end of the era of an automatic and close relationship between the Liberal Party and big business.

According to Dutton, as neatly expressed by Phillip Coorey, this newspaper’s political editor, “the way back to power for the Liberal Party rest[s] with small and micro-business operators, the suburbs and the regions”.

Not before time the Liberals have realised they should direct their attentions to Dandenong not Davos.

John Roskam is executive director of the Institute of Public Affairs

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2022 1:26 pm

OldOzziesays:
June 3, 2022 at 12:51 pm
For the first time, Labor voters earn more than Coalition voters

Households in Labor electorates now earn $8580 more a year than those in Coalition seats – a shift that could have profound effects on politics.

ROFLMAO, it is now clear that you have to be wealthy to afford to be a Green/enviromentalist, you have to be well above average income to be able to afford to be a socialist, and the lower paid (but not so much the welfare recipients) are now open to voting for the Coalition.

What was m0nty-fa saying a few days ago, about the Liberals having nothing to offer to the horny-handed sons and daughters of toil? Perhaps more than he thinks.

But it has been obvious for years that many at the top of Labor are more attracted to the top end of town than to the workers they still claim to represent. See the example of Shorten, as a union leader, selling his members down the river for political contributions from businesses.

Zipster
Zipster
June 3, 2022 1:40 pm

How China has quietly overtaken an entire continent | China in Focus

Beijing has been pouring billions of dollars into the infrastructure of Africa.

But what started out as a seemingly generous move, has dark strings attached. Now that influence is rippling out globally.

In this special report, we look at China’s growing influence in Africa, how it got to this point, and the impact it’s having on the rest of the world.

And joining us to help shed light on the topic are Antonio Graceffo, China economic analyst; and Jon Pelson, author of “Wireless Wars: China’s Dangerous Domination of 5G and How We’re Fighting Back.”

m0nty
m0nty
June 3, 2022 1:43 pm

It really is amazing how the Liberals have just given up after one battle. The Teals have broken them.

Almost by default, the Coalition is becoming the voice of the working and lower middle-classes – and a perceived bulwark against inner-city values and priorities.

Astoundingly, the Liberals are now the voice of the working class without changing a single policy from back when they were the party of big business! What a miracle.

Much of the modern era in Western politics can be characterised as right wing parties acting like abusive husbands. In Australia, the Teals have now left home with the kids and the husband is an empty shell, alone with his own toxicity.

shatterzzz
June 3, 2022 1:51 pm

Gotta laff to avoid cryin’ LOL! .. down the Council INDOOR pool swimming laps this morning when buzzer goes off and everyone ordered out of water .. asks the LG what’s going on, sez,
” Some folk are complaining the water is cold so using the pool over for the day so it can be heated up” ..
“it ain’t cold if your swimming”, sez I ..
Can’t believe how much sway the ethnic rorters have when they ain’t happy .. FFS!

cohenite
June 3, 2022 2:01 pm

Some 3rd nation grifters have lodged a NT claim on Canberra. I have mixed feelings about that.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
June 3, 2022 2:03 pm

m0ntysays:
June 3, 2022 at 1:43 pm

If the Liberals should be doing – well, you didn’t really say, but something presumably – to regain teal seats, what should Labor be doing to regain seats from the Greens?

Zipster
Zipster
June 3, 2022 2:03 pm

I am buying an extra large popcorn basket to watch the clusterfuck that labor will unfold over the next few years

shatterzzz
June 3, 2022 2:06 pm

They won’t be impressed by Linda Burney wearing a kangaroo pelt either.

Actually, it was a rather large sporran she carries a lot of baggage .. LOL!

Barry
Barry
June 3, 2022 2:09 pm

Labor are nothing if not pragmatists.

They’ll toss out climate action in order to retain power, no doubt at all.

Free pass from the MSM, and bewilderment from the Libs.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2022 2:16 pm

Morrison had held up a photo of the sun and announced that we don’t need to be afraid of this, by now we would have an energy market dominated N U C L E A R – – P O W E R

shatterzzz
June 3, 2022 2:18 pm

My experience of the shop drones of Colesworths is that they are sullen clock-watchers with absolutely no affinity with or especial goodwill for customers.

Geez! .. yer harsh! .. it’s a job not a “the aisles are alive with the sound of music” Von Trapp episode! .. imagine traipsing up & down Colesworths shelves for several hours a day and trying to grin & be cheerful to all & sundry!
No idea what they pay these folk but, in my book, they deserve it, every cent! ..

Rabz
June 3, 2022 2:20 pm

watch the clusterfuck that labor will unfold over the next few years

They’ve been in government barely a week and already the arrant idiocy and unworkability of their signature policy has smashed them good and hard in their stupid ugly faces.

Welcome to the reality of “climate action” you knuckleheads.

Zipster
Zipster
June 3, 2022 2:20 pm

Gulf Arab States declare they will not sanction Russia

The Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) countries will not join the West in imposing sanctions on Russia over the Ukraine war, Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, said yesterday.

“Aspects of the international situation, which are connected with the events unfolded by the West around Ukraine, are well understood by our partners from the Gulf Cooperation Council States,” Lavrov told reporters in Saudi Arabia’s capital city, Riyadh. His visit included meetings with GCC Foreign Ministers.

The Russian Foreign Ministry recently said in a statement that Lavrov and his Emirati counterpart, Abdullah bin Zayed Al-Nahyan, had discussed “close cooperation on stabilising oil global prices”.

On grain exports, Lavrov accused the Ukrainian government of “blocking the way for its grain to get exports abroad”. “Our offer to our Western partners is clear, which includes providing corridors for ships transporting grain, after clearing mines, and the Turkish side has offered to help clear mines,” he said.

Rabz
June 3, 2022 2:25 pm

Speaking of political imbeciles, the latest “policy initiative” from that abortion of a state government we’re blessed with in NSW.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 3, 2022 2:34 pm

m0nty says:
June 3, 2022 at 1:43 pm
It really is amazing how the Liberals have just given up after one battle. The Teals have broken them.

The ladies of the best postcodes will be one of the shortest political experiments we’ll ever see.
They’re simplistic climate agenda has already been exposed by gas shortages and large food price hikes.
The media will soon hunt then down for answers with pictures and stories of cold starving pensioners and single mums who’ve been impoverished by “real action on climate.”

shatterzzz
June 3, 2022 2:34 pm

The University of Sydney library will restrict access to sacred Indigenous materials and offer First Nations communities a “right of reply” to historically inaccurate texts under changes aimed at making it less Eurocentric.

Given that the 251s had no written language skills other than the tutors & scholars at Pascoe University where, unfortunately, both scholars, students, buildings & everything else were lost when
Jimmy “Sherman, hold my beer!” Cook unleashed his “burnt earth” across Oz and utterly eradicated and removed all traces of the “dreamland” that once was who is left to answer the call of “right of reply”? ..

local oaf
June 3, 2022 2:36 pm

No idea what they pay these folk but, in my book, they deserve it, every cent! ..

I had a Coles delivery driver tell me once that he’d done the in store collection of orders too.

They had 20 seconds to collect each item on the list!

He much preferred delivery despite the traffic and heavy lifting of many orders. Some they have to carry up flights of stairs.

m0nty
m0nty
June 3, 2022 2:44 pm

If the Liberals should be doing – well, you didn’t really say, but something presumably – to regain teal seats, what should Labor be doing to regain seats from the Greens?

Labor would have better results attacking Liberal suburban seats than Green seats. They would much rather deal with the Greens in office with a depleted LNP opposition, even if they have to govern in partnership.

The Libs are extremely weak right now trying to claim a new base, and Labor could wedge them nearly out of existence.

shatterzzz
June 3, 2022 2:45 pm

I can imagine the business model where everyone orders online and they don’t have to have supermarkets anymore. But I suspect that it is a long way away, if ever.

I know that Woolworths have a couple of online only warehouse operations up & running in Sydney .. not sure about Coles but wouldn’t be surprised if they have them as well!

Lysander
Lysander
June 3, 2022 2:46 pm

So trust the science on climate, but not nuclear science? That’s consistent. /sarc.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2022 2:48 pm

“OldOzziesays:
June 3, 2022 at 1:20 pm”

Thanks for posting that OO. Credlin last night referenced Roskam’s piece. He nails it.

Lysander
Lysander
June 3, 2022 2:52 pm

You gotta be pretty annoyed where you lost your seat by less votes than the Informal rate!

https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionPage-27966-120.htm

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2022 2:57 pm

“There is no point pretending that these seats are in any sense blue ribbon but neither are they lost to Libs. They are just going to be very fickle from here on in.”

I would agree with that assessment. I think such fickleness applies to Wentworth. I suspect, whether in three years or six years time, some Teal seats will revert to the Liberals again, probably Curtin/Wentworth. However, the Liberal Party can no longer rely on these seats to form government.

m0nty
m0nty
June 3, 2022 2:58 pm

That’s the thing with a four-cornered contest, it sets up all sorts of possibilities for temporary alliances and short-term enemies. Labor and Liberal could choose to fight the last war and bash each other, but that’s kind of what got them into this mess in the first place. They are both weakened in this new era so it is tempting to strike while their old foe is struggling, but they also need to defend their flanks from incursions by the new protagonists.

The Teals have attacked suddenly and made a lot more ground in a short time than the Greens ever have. I live in an inner city electorate where the Greens gained a handful of percentage points – Gellibrand – but the process of Greenifying the electorate is painfully slow. The booths closer to the CBD were strong Green but the further you got out the stronger Labor was, apart from Williamstown which remains a Liberal stronghold. The Green effect will expand out like house prices eventually, turning Gellibrand and seats like it into Green playgrounds, but there isn’t an instant effect like the Teals had.

The Greens may have taken a lot longer to consolidate their hold over those inner-city seats but I reckon it’s going to be harder to turf them out as a consequence. The Teals are Joanie-come-lately types without a long grassroots history behind them, so it mystifies me why the Libs are ceding their old seats without even token resistance.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 3, 2022 2:59 pm

Another problem the Tea Ladies face is relevancy and prestige. The seats they have taken used to boast of high profile Lib ministers and even PM’s.
How do they keep a profile that attracts attention and satisfies the well heeled constituents, who are used to the A team.
The Teals will predictably become more shrill and accusatory, jostling for the limelight. That grows tired quickly.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
June 3, 2022 3:03 pm

Struth says:
June 3, 2022 at 2:57 pm

A spot on article.
Will the denialists read it?

I doubt it as they don’t believe in evidence based science. Just like gerbil warming most of the real science denies the belief.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

cohenite says: June 3, 2022 at 2:01 pm

Some 3rd nation grifters have lodged a NT claim on Canberra. I have mixed feelings about that.

Provided the claim includes the homes of High Court Judges, I’m all for it.
Godspeed those native title claimants.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

From Their ABC:
Agriculture Minister Murray Watt has confirmed the Australian government will ban live sheep exports by both air and sea.

It’ll be utterly fascinating to learn the justification for banning the air export.

Is it too early to adopt “Punch a Labor voter”?

m0nty
m0nty
June 3, 2022 3:10 pm

Saying “oh the Teals will just stuff up and let the Libs back in” sounds very much like an abusive husband telling his mates that bitch wife of his is going to come running back to his arms any day now.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2022 3:11 pm

The ladies of the best postcodes will be one of the shortest political experiments we’ll ever see.

Remember how Julia Banks was going to be the next big thing?
Nah, me neither.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2022 3:12 pm

Astoundingly, the Liberals are now the voice of the working class without changing a single policy from back when they were the party of big business! What a miracle.

And the Liars are now the party of the rich, after changing so many policies that they are no longer (and have not been for some time) the representatives of the working class.

But m0nty-fa remains in denial.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2022 3:14 pm

cohenitesays:
June 3, 2022 at 2:01 pm
Some 3rd nation grifters have lodged a NT claim on Canberra. I have mixed feelings about that.

And much of the property is leasehold, not freehold. They might have a good chance!

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2022 3:18 pm

Rabzsays:
June 3, 2022 at 2:20 pm
watch the clusterfuck that labor will unfold over the next few years

They’ve been in government barely a week and already the arrant idiocy and unworkability of their signature policy has smashed them good and hard in their stupid ugly faces.

And their rabid “environmental” supporters will remain in denial, like m0nty-fa.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2022 3:21 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

June 3, 2022 at 2:59 pm

Another problem the Tea Ladies face is relevancy and prestige

The first lesson is coming soon.
I am sure Elbow’s team were quietly cultivating them in the background before The Great Victory.
They will arrange a meeting with one of the 42 ministers over the next week or so, keen to discuss collaboration on Cloimate Change.
They will turn up, only to be kept waiting for 15 minutes, then be ushered into a room to meet with a pimply 22 year old junior advisor, who starts looking at his/her/xe’s watch after another 15 minutes.
The other factor will be the ego of Holmes a Court. He will not take the inevitable sidelining very well.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2022 3:22 pm

If Aborigines want Canberra, they can have it.

It’s racist to oppose the confederalisation of Australia and the end of central government dominated faux Federalism.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2022 3:23 pm

… very much like an abusive husband telling his mates that bitch wife of his is going to come running back to his arms any day now.

Trouble at home, m0nster?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2022 3:23 pm

m0ntysays:
June 3, 2022 at 2:44 pm
If the Liberals should be doing – well, you didn’t really say, but something presumably – to regain teal seats, what should Labor be doing to regain seats from the Greens?

Labor would have better results attacking Liberal suburban seats than Green seats. They would much rather deal with the Greens in office with a depleted LNP opposition, even if they have to govern in partnership.

The Libs are extremely weak right now trying to claim a new base, and Labor could wedge them nearly out of existence.

Sez m0nty-fa, with all fingers and toes crossed, and a knot in his old feller.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2022 3:25 pm

Having a laff at the “Nobody is a Winner in the Heard-Depp Case”.
Err, wut?
I think the bloke with a $15 meg court order in his pocket could be in front at this point.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2022 3:26 pm

Those triumphant tweets about blowing up coal-fired power plants are not going to age well over this winter.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2022 3:29 pm

“Saying “oh the Teals will just stuff up and let the Libs back in” sounds very much like an abusive husband telling his mates that bitch wife of his is going to come running back to his arms any day now.”

Nobody here has said that “the Teals will just stuff up and let the Libs back in“. They’re your words. However I’ll be holding my local member, Princess Allegra, to account.

And as for “an abusive husband telling his mates that bitch wife“…is that how you refer to women? Very revealing.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 3, 2022 3:31 pm

The Daily Tele suggests a bit of cabinet retasking:

Australia now has its first-ever Minister for the Republic. The timing, however, seems slightly astray.

Matt Thistlethwaite was sworn into the assistance ministerial role this week, just as winter began to bite and the thoughts of many in NSW turned to the costs of two life essentials: heating and eating.

For too many people in Sydney and NSW, looming price hikes mean that some evenings will be spent choosing between food and warmth.

Given that obvious and alarming fact, the republic seems like quite the second-level issue. Or third level.

Fortunately, in Minister Thistlethwaite we have a way in which the government is able to quickly respond. Given that Labor won’t be pushing for a republic during this term, which is what Labor strongly indicated during the election campaign, why not reassign the member for Kingsford Smith as Australia’s Minister for the Cost of Living?

He’ll certainly have a lot more to do in that role than he ever would as a Minister for Something Not Happening.

Thistlethwaite could begin in his new job by conducting a quick survey of charities that provide donated clothing to families in need. These organisations are often able to provide accurate snapshots of just how acute is the situation for those at the margins.

Importantly, the margins won’t be so marginal as prices for power and sustenance keep going up. Families who have made it through Covid and other dramas with their finances relatively intact now face a serious squeeze.

Anthony Albanese made a point during his first party room meeting as Prime Minister that every day must count. And he is right, especially for Australians who right now can’t see their income covering their household costs.

Put aside the republic. This government – and the state government, for that matter – have a more important job to do. Federally, give that job to Matt Thistlethwaite. It’s not as though he’ll be overworked in his current role.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2022 3:34 pm

Further to Roskam’s piece….”Apparently, company boards should now start purging their ranks of “right-wingers”. That’s the view of Graeme Bricknell of the executive search and consulting firm, Korn Ferry.

The choice of the word “purge” is very instructive because this is how the left operates. Nobody should be surprised. And the right have just sat back and done nothing to combat this. As far as the likes of Bricknell are concerned, we on the right are to have no voice so they will do their best to silence us.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2022 3:40 pm

ROFLMAO!

At 1140, m0nty-fa is forecasting a future Liars/Lieboral alliance. By 1444, he is expecting the Liars to wedge the Lieborals out of existence, and deal with the Slime as colleagues in government.

What his near-hysterical commenting today suggests that, if m0nty-fa actually has any inside Liars contacts, then fear (one of the four leftist characteristics – hatred, hypocrisy, envy and fear) is increasing among the Liars that their enemies are about to use their own tactics against them.

Bluey
Bluey
June 3, 2022 3:41 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
June 3, 2022 at 2:34 pm
m0nty says:
June 3, 2022 at 1:43 pm
It really is amazing how the Liberals have just given up after one battle. The Teals have broken them.

The ladies of the best postcodes will be one of the shortest political experiments we’ll ever see.
They’re simplistic climate agenda has already been exposed by gas shortages and large food price hikes.
The media will soon hunt then down for answers with pictures and stories of cold starving pensioners and single mums who’ve been impoverished by “real action on climate.”

You are far more optimistic about the media going after fellow travelers than I am.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2022 3:42 pm

Matt Thistlethwaite was sworn into the assistance ministerial role this week, just as winter began to bite and the thoughts of many in NSW turned to the costs of two life essentials: heating and eating.

Most political thinking is reflected in the MSM reporting on this issue, which inevitably goes something like:-

“Experts urge people to shop around for better deals, to replace power hungry appliances and consider upgrading insulation.”

A glib “let them eat cake”.
Shop around for better deals? If wholesale prices are increasing by 20% – 30%, the very best 2022 deal will inevitably be higher than anything you were on in 2021.
Replace appliances. Yes, a pensioner can just decide to throw out their HWS or heater and shovel 3 or 4 grand at five-star replacements.
Insulation? Bit awkward if you are a renter.
Classic victim blaming.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2022 3:44 pm

Cassie

The choice of the word “purge” is very instructive because this is how the left operates. Nobody should be surprised.

Hatred, another characteristic of leftists. Now out and proud.

Lysander
Lysander
June 3, 2022 3:46 pm

It’ll be utterly fascinating to learn the justification for banning the air export.

I read that 1 sheep has died out of 100,000’s of exports.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
June 3, 2022 3:48 pm

so it mystifies me why the Libs are ceding their old seats without even token resistance.

What makes you think that? We’re a week or so out from the election. What do you expect to have happened by now?

In any case, you still haven’t said what you think they should do. Even if fashion statement “climate” poseurism could win back all those seven seats, which it might well not anyway, it would still leave Labor in power unless the Liberals can also win back a swag of suburban seats. That’s democracy – the majority get to win. And there’s no sign that the suburbs are going to get on board with “climate” grandstanding any time soon.
What the Coalition really needs to be looking at is the million or so voters who didn’t bother to turn up this time. They may well find that those voters don’t want to vote Labor/Green/teal, but were fed up with the Photios/Turnbull/ScoMo goat rodeo’s failure to deliver sound, competent government. If that is the case the fix is easy (though the Photios party probably still won’t do it).

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2022 3:49 pm

This happened in France two weeks ago…

“In what has become a disturbing, and all too familiar occurrence in France, another elderly French Jew has been murdered in an unprovoked attack motivated by antisemitism. On May 21, an 89-year-old Lyon resident named René Hadjaj was defenestrated from the 17th floor of the apartment complex where he resided. The perpetrator has been identified as a 51-year-old male of Algerian origin named Rachid Kheniche. Hadjaj was said to have been wearing a kippah at the time of the assault.

French police were quick to dismiss the attack as a dispute between neighbors unrelated to antisemitism. However, watchdog groups quickly alerted French law enforcement authorities to Kheniche’s social media postings where he engaged in antisemitic rants. After viewing the postings, the French prosecutor’s office requested that judges presiding over the case include an antisemitic motive charge as an aggravating circumstance in killing of Hadjaj.

I’m sure the perpetrator, Rachid Kheniche, had “legitimate grievances” to murder a Jew.

Lysander
Lysander
June 3, 2022 3:49 pm

Elbow is surely taking this piss. Matt Tinselweight as Minister for Republic?

What does he do all day, every day then? $200K+ to do SFA? Serious question! There’s no department to administer, no regulations to make, no republic, no correspondence about the republic…

Next Ministry will have Minister for the 4th Millenia?

P
P
June 3, 2022 3:50 pm

The new 7 ‘teals’ who gained seats are women –

Allegra Spender (Wentworth)
Dr Monique Ryan (Kooyong)
Kate Chaney (Curtin)
Dai Le (Fowler)
Zoe Daniel (Goldstein)
Kylea Jane Tink (North Sydney)
Sophie Scamps (Mackellar)

who join the other independents Haines, Steggall and Wilkie.

9 women.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2022 3:54 pm

“Dai Le (Fowler)”

P, Dai Lei s not a Teal, she is the sole genuine independent. She received no help from GetUp or Svengali Simon.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2022 3:55 pm

And not only is Dai Le a true independent, I suspect she is the only sensible one and she isn’t a progressive.

P
P
June 3, 2022 3:58 pm

The very good newsreader today on TV read one segment of news standing, with her legs wide apart. In close fitting slacks IMO unbecoming.
This is predominantly a male stance.
I’ve noticed this a few times lately mainly by weather presenters, perhaps not as objectionable because of their frequent movements.
Things change, I guess.

m0nty
m0nty
June 3, 2022 4:14 pm

In any case, you still haven’t said what you think they should do.

They’re in a tough spot. The Republicans manage to survive playing to their base despite losing the popular vote in practically every national American election due to gerrymanders, some natural and others manufactured. I don’t think the Liberals can follow that strategy in our system, it won’t deliver them government.

Abandoning their former base seems insane to me. If the Liberals aren’t going to be bankrolled by big business, where do they get their funding from? I doubt strongly that they can get a grassroots donor network happening in Australia.

It’s not my job to figure out how to solve their problems, but I sure can point out how the strategy they are using isn’t going to work. If I knew how to solve it, I wouldn’t be sitting here chatting with you about it, I’d be earning the big bucks as a consultant.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 3, 2022 4:15 pm
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 3, 2022 4:15 pm

Struthsays:
June 3, 2022 at 2:57 pm
A spot on article.
Will the denialists read it?

Struth,

an excellent article

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9062939/

COVID UPDATE: What is the truth?

The COVID-19 pandemic is one of the most manipulated infectious disease events in history, characterized by official lies in an unending stream lead by government bureaucracies, medical associations, medical boards, the media, and international agencies.[3,6,57]

We have witnessed a long list of unprecedented intrusions into medical practice, including attacks on medical experts, destruction of medical careers among doctors refusing to participate in killing their patients and a massive regimentation of health care, led by non-qualified individuals with enormous wealth, power and influence.

For the first time in American history a president, governors, mayors, hospital administrators and federal bureaucrats are determining medical treatments based not on accurate scientifically based or even experience based information, but rather to force the acceptance of special forms of care and “prevention”—including remdesivir, use of respirators and ultimately a series of essentially untested messenger RNA vaccines. For the first time in history medical treatment, protocols are not being formulated based on the experience of the physicians treating the largest number of patients successfully, but rather individuals and bureaucracies that have never treated a single patient—including Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, EcoHealth Alliance, the CDC, WHO, state public health officers and hospital administrators.

The media (TV, newspapers, magazines, etc), medical societies, state medical boards and the owners of social media have appointed themselves to be the sole source of information concerning this so-called “pandemic”. Websites have been removed, highly credentialed and experienced clinical doctors and scientific experts in the field of infectious diseases have been demonized, careers have been destroyed and all dissenting information has been labeled “misinformation” and “dangerous lies”, even when sourced from top experts in the fields of virology, infectious diseases, pulmonary critical care, and epidemiology. These blackouts of truth occur even when this information is backed by extensive scientific citations from some of the most qualified medical specialists in the world.

Roger
Roger
June 3, 2022 4:18 pm

Warnings of power outages this weekend. Not a serious country.

Very timely though!

With a new government committed to a 43% reduction in emissions in 8 years and a shortfall of replacement generators coming into the grid this is a sign of things to come…only much ealrier than the “experts” predicted.

areff
areff
June 3, 2022 4:21 pm

About that Liberal push to build their new frontline in the suburbs: A Liberal — may have been the candidate for Wills or a helper, just don’t know which — was handing out election screeds outside Coles here ion the West prior to the 2016 election.

He was wearing a cravat.

Lysander
Lysander
June 3, 2022 4:22 pm

It’s not my job to figure out how to solve their problems

And nor would they ever ask you Munty so stop dreaming that you’re some sort of credible political analyst.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
June 3, 2022 4:24 pm

RE animal exports by air in 1920/21……Cattle / 5184 , 0 deaths : Goats 15002 / 2 deaths : Sheep 32357: 3 deaths. Govt. documented .

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2022 4:24 pm

Apparently, company boards should now start purging their ranks of “right-wingers”. That’s the view of Graeme Bricknell of the executive search and consulting firm, Korn Ferry

Headhunters. Instead of just filling a brief, they see themselves as omnipotent Masters of the Universe who know better than their clients.
I was put forward for a job being recruited by these guys years ago. The interview was cordial enough but it was obvious the guy was totally disinterested from the get-go. Missed the first cut and I found out later from my mate on the inside that the headhunter put a complete dud forward as “the one true standout candidate”, who got rejected and the client took the brief elsewhere. I had already gone elsewhere by then. Suspicion was that the candidate was a mate of the headhunter.
Years later they turned up to another company I was with to pitch for business. I casually mentioned to one of them that I was in the mix for a job with XYZ Co years ago and wasn’t treated well. Although I didn’t mention the particular dickhead by name, the reaction of the person I was talking to he had joined the dots. My parting shot … “It’s always worth considering that today’s candidate might be tomorrow’s client.”
They were a long-shot to get a look-in anyway, but never miss an opportunity to twist a knife.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2022 4:25 pm

He was wearing a cravat.

Was it a King Gee cravat?

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
June 3, 2022 4:26 pm

Sorry……2020 /2021

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
June 3, 2022 4:26 pm

Re the native title claim over Canberra, it’s something I considered over 20 years ago when I was looking to buy a home. One of the major factors in deciding to buy in New South Wales was that residential property is freehold title, which I knew extinguishes native title. I knew that the Wik decision had set a precedent for pastoral leasehold property and I thought it would be a matter of time before there would be a test case on the residential leasehold title which applies to ALL houses and apartments in Canberra. I’m only surprised it took this long.

I’m also experiencing ein bisschen schadenfreude – all those lefties in Canberra are going to have make rent payments on their homes and it might make a few attitude changes to native title rights.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 3, 2022 4:27 pm

Speaking of political imbeciles,

Single use plastic bags be fucked.

When the town council did this in Canberra some years back I found on-line a company that supplies these things (along with all sorts of other stuff) and ordered 2500 of them. First time customer discount cost less than $70.

Still got about 500 left. They break down in landfill – not like the heavy plastic ones you have to pay for when you duck in to get milk, bread and butter and forgot your green bag that will survive in landfill like a cockroach.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 3, 2022 4:31 pm

m0ntysays:
June 3, 2022 at 4:14 pm
In any case, you still haven’t said what you think they should do.

Abandoning their former base seems insane to me. If the Liberals aren’t going to be bankrolled by big business, where do they get their funding from? I doubt strongly that they can get a grassroots donor network happening in Australia.

It’s not my job to figure out how to solve their problems, but I sure can point out how the strategy they are using isn’t going to work. If I knew how to solve it, I wouldn’t be sitting here chatting with you about it, I’d be earning the big bucks as a consultant.

Fair Comment

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 3, 2022 4:37 pm

AGL – Cribb Point in gas terminal was canned last year by Dan.

Jono La Nauze, from Environment Victoria, said the market had spoken and it wanted to switch to cleaner renewables.

“Victoria doesn’t need a dirty hulking gas import terminal that would bring gas we simply do not need,” he said.

The terminal would have held 170,000 cubic metres of gas.

Genius at work.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 3, 2022 4:40 pm

‘Never seen that before’: Brush turkeys are turning carnivorous in Sydney suburbs

Demonstrating a behaviour eerily reminiscent of their Jurassic ancestors, a pack of brush turkeys has been filmed in Sydney’s Northern Beaches ravenously devouring the carcass of a bandicoot.

Dr John Martin, a research scientist at the Taronga Institute of Science and Learning, spotted the dominant male turkey fiercely defending the roadkill from five or six lurking competitors, before tearing into the meat.

This brush turkey behaviour is highly unusual, according to Martin, who said the birds usually feed on seeds, worms and grubs.

“It literally grabs a chunk of blood-red steak and wolfs it down,” said Martin, who captured video of the behaviour in Manly. “I had never seen that before.”

Behavioural ecologist Professor Darryl Jones, a brush turkey expert, had also never heard of the turkeys feasting on roadkill. He said it was a “pretty rare event” for turkeys to fend off other scavengers and eat “a big chunk of meat like a bandicoot”.

Jones says the birds, having occupied Sydney’s suburbs, are adapting their diets by feeding on abundant roadkill that was not once part of their rainforest habitats.

Lysander
Lysander
June 3, 2022 4:46 pm

I knew that the Wik decision had set a precedent for pastoral leasehold property and I thought it would be a matter of time before there would be a test case on the residential leasehold title which applies to ALL houses and apartments in Canberra.

Hmm how frightfully entertaining!

Sucked-in ACT for not having freehold lol!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 3, 2022 4:51 pm

Australia’s 52 top wineries of 2022

After the devastation of the 2019-20 bushfires, the 2021 vintage has thankfully proved to be one of almost universally great quality. Here, we toast Australian winemaking’s current crème de la crème.

By Huon Hooke

JUNE 3, 2022

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2022 4:59 pm

“It’s not my job to figure out how to solve their problems,”

Yet all he’s done here for two weeks is talk about the Liberal’s problems.

Strange man.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 3, 2022 5:03 pm

From their ABCcess…

They have banned live sheep exports by air, literally beacuse one sheep died in 2021….
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-03/sheep-live-export-ban-labor-agriculture-minister-confirms/101119752

while air exports accounted for 22,572, with one mortality recorded.

he missed the final word…YET…
But the new Agriculture Minister insisted this was not the case.

“We absolutely have no plans to end or phase out the live cattle export trade,” Senator Watt said.

The classic kid who killed his parents blaming his actions on being an orphan.

Underpinning the ban on sheep exports was the general decline in the industry, he said.

“The industry has been in decline for some time now and in some respects, this [the ban] would be continuing a trend that is already happening,” Senator Watt said.

Underpinning the strangulation of my victim was the general decline after I punched them in the throat and promised as soon as I had the opportunity Id kill them….

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

For the benefit of those who weren’t in Australia when the High Court ruled on Native title:

The ruling specifically excluded the ACT.
(This of course was based totally on legal principle and was nothing to do with protecting the homes of High Court Judges from native title claim)

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 3, 2022 5:07 pm

Similar thing happened to me Thancho, Having a beer with FiL when he mentioned a persons name who had applied for a job. We had actually worked together. Long story short, he didn’t get the job when he needed it after being sacked. Funny how things work out.

Vicki
Vicki
June 3, 2022 5:08 pm

CDC Director Issues Alert on Pfizer’s COVID Pill paxlovid: Warns of “Covid Rebound” and Positive Viral PCR

Husband recently had telephone consultation at the farm with a new young doctor at our Sydney practice. It was a courtesy call on husband’s behalf as he had just received a copy (we always demand one & had already read it) of a recent full blood count.

Husband happened to tell him that he was unvaccinated, and had recently had a (mild) bout of Covid19. Alarmed, the novice medico said he would send a script for Paxlovid which he insisted husband should take. Husband is more tolerant and diplomatic than I am, & said nothing. But, in reply to query re what medication he was taking – he rattled off our daily intake of vitamins and supplements, and, being the wag that he is …..included ivermectin! That didn’t go down well – at least, not with young doctor!

Needless to say, husband ignored script for Paxlovid – although he refused to tell doctor (as I was advising in the background!) that Paxlovid was already causing rebound Covid.

I should add that not all GPs are similarly ignorant. A (vaccinated) friend who was suffering concerning shortness of breath after a week of Covid lucked upon a young doctor at a new practice (her doctor at her usual practice was booked out) who prescribed steroids for her problem. Fixed it up within days. There’s one young doctor who actually researches what OS frontline Covid physicians have discovered by trial and error.

cohenite
June 3, 2022 5:09 pm

I’d be earning the big bucks as a consultant.

The only big bucks you could get is as a fat arsed soy boy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2022 5:11 pm

The industry has been in decline for some time now and in some respects, this [the ban] would be continuing a trend that is already happening,” Senator Watt said.

The industry has been in decline for some time now because that’s how long the Greens and their fellow howler monkeys have been trying to shut it down. WFM.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 3, 2022 5:12 pm

so it mystifies me why the Libs are ceding their old seats without even token resistance.

What makes you think that? We’re a week or so out from the election. What do you expect to have happened by now?

Stay behinds?

Neck-height wires stretched across the entry to polling places during counting and preference allocation?

Werewolves of the Liberal-Jugend sneaking out at night to deface remaining election posters and secretly circulate Liberal HTV cards?

We all know how the fanatical fascist Right apparently operates…

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2022 5:12 pm

The Republicans manage to survive playing to their base despite losing the popular vote in practically every national American election due to gerrymanders,

m0nty-fa admits that the DemonRats are the Gerrymanderers. Small steps, acknowledging the problem is an essential start. He might even start to wonder is the fascist left actually has the good of the electorate at heart.

Lysander
Lysander
June 3, 2022 5:13 pm

For the benefit of those who weren’t in Australia when the High Court ruled on Native title:

The ruling specifically excluded the ACT.
(This of course was based totally on legal principle and was nothing to do with protecting the homes of High Court Judges from native title claim)

Darn.

They could still argue the exclusion of ACT, right? (Since most ACT-types are into inclusion?)

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 3, 2022 5:14 pm

Perhaps blinded by the success of the 2019 campaign, Morrison didn’t seem to appreciate that ostentatious masculinity repelled many educated women.

I don’t recall Morrison or any other lib displaying ostentatious masculinity. Or any other sort of masculinity. Au
Cointreau.

Roger
Roger
June 3, 2022 5:16 pm

Jono La Nauze, from Environment Victoria, said the market had spoken and it wanted to switch to cleaner renewables.

I suspect “the market, i.e. consumers, might like another look.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 3, 2022 5:16 pm

Top…men…
Thats who we have in government
top….men….

Apparently stagflation of the 70’s and the misery of the UK in particular had nothing to do with increasing wages after spunking money like a Tsar on a meth and vodka bender at Vlads house of poon.

The new government has made its long-awaited submission to the minimum wage inquiry, setting out a clear position that workers should not suffer effective pay cuts due to inflation. Employment minister Tony Burke said that the government hadn’t limited its call to only minimum wage workers, but instead backed pay rises for all workers on low rates. At a press conference in Sydney, he said:

We don’t want anyone to go backwards, but there’s a particular priority right now with respect to low-paid workers.

Labor’s submission makes specific reference to the 5.1% inflation figure in setting out its position that wages shouldn’t go “backwards”.

Burke rubbished suggestions that such wage rises would add to inflation pressures, saying:

Inflation is not being driven by high wage growth. How do we know this? We don’t have high wage growth.

The factors that are providing upward pressure right now on inflation are not wages. It’s not one of those factors. The whole concept that the sort of spiral that may be referred to in the early 1980s does not reflect the economic conditions now.

This does not bode well for the future.
They believe that events of the past, which have actually occurred, cannot happen again based on brute ignorance and what they wish to be real.

The time to fight inflation was during the RGR & Morriswine/miserable ghost/Abbott eras with balanced budgets and restrained spending.

cohenite
June 3, 2022 5:17 pm

Kenny on the US gun issue reveals he is a gibbering leftie. The gun issue in the US is entirely a product of social disintegration caused by the demorat attack on traditional values and freedoms. They have destroyed black families, removed consequence from the judicial system, released mentally ill and serious criminals back into communities, they have denigrated US society through racism, sexism and every other schism inducing trendie virtue issue. They don’t enforce security at schools and exacerbated all this with 2 years of alienation based on the chunk virus.

The most stark thing about the Texas shooting is the grotesque failure of the authorities before, during and after the shooting.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2022 5:18 pm

Lysandersays:
June 3, 2022 at 4:22 pm
It’s not my job to figure out how to solve their problems

And nor would they ever ask you Munty so stop dreaming that you’re some sort of credible political analyst.

And even if m0nty-fa offered advice, they should do the opposite. m0nty-fa is not the friend of anyone not part of the fascist left.

cohenite
June 3, 2022 5:23 pm

Husband happened to tell him that he was unvaccinated, and had recently had a (mild) bout of Covid19. Alarmed, the novice medico said he would send a script for Paxlovid which he insisted husband should take. Husband is more tolerant and diplomatic than I am, & said nothing. But, in reply to query re what medication he was taking – he rattled off our daily intake of vitamins and supplements, and, being the wag that he is …..included ivermectin! That didn’t go down well – at least, not with young doctor!

Not having any ivermectin before I got the chunk virus recently I gargled continually with Betadine which has iodine in it and when I caught the damn thing had a lot of aspro clear and phenergan. The severe symptoms still lasted about 4 days and some flu like nasal drips are persisting.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2022 5:27 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
June 3, 2022 at 4:59 pm
“It’s not my job to figure out how to solve their problems,”

Yet all he’s done here for two weeks is talk about the Liberal’s problems.

Strange man.

He wasn’t talking, he was gloating. Just as the Liars (and the MSM, BIRM) thought that KRudd’s victory had ushered in a new dawn of long term Liar government, m0nty-fa thinks that AnAl’s victory has seen the utter destruction of the Liberals.

It might have, but a wise man (which excludes m0nty-fa) would be rather more cautious.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 3, 2022 5:31 pm

WHAT IS A WOMAN?

It has long been supposed (mostly tongue-in-cheek, except for Freudians) that the great unanswerable question of all time is, “What do women want?” Forget that. Today the unanswerable question—not tongue-in-cheek—is, “What is a woman?”

Matt Walsh of the Daily Wire has produced a documentary about this question which is out late this week. I haven’t see it yet, but I have seen some excerpts, and this short trailer makes one big thing abundantly clear: the transgender activists are so cocksure of themselves that they wilt under the slightest questioning from Matt. Most of them fall mute when you ask the simplest questions.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 3, 2022 5:35 pm

No, no, no, no, NO!

Those pillowy golden puffs of classic movie-theater popcorn, covered in fake butter and all-too-real salt, could be in short supply.

“Popcorn supply will be tight,” Preferred Popcorn chief executive Norm Krug told the Wall Street Journal.

Just when we’re gearing up to watch MSNBC on what is likely to be the Democrats’ worst midterm election night wipeout since their last midterm election wipeout, this has to happen. I’m starting to be very disappointed in the Biden Administration.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 3, 2022 5:39 pm

Fyodor Lukyanov: Russia’s role in the global economic order has turned out to be more significant than the West believed

Western sanctions against Russia are speeding up the end of globalization as we’ve known it. A new economic order awaits.

After weeks of intensive negotiations, the European Union has agreed on a sixth package of sanctions against Moscow. Its main element is the cessation, by the end of this year, of oil imports from Russia delivered to the bloc’s market by sea.

According to President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen, this will reduce Russian supplies to the EU by 90%, with the remaining 10% lined up for the chop in the future.

The percentage share is a debatable issue, but the assessment of the head of the European Council, Charles Michel, who announced the ban on two-thirds of Russian raw materials, looks more realistic. For Russia, the main thing so far is not quantity, but quality. Pipeline routes, unlike maritime routes, cannot be redirected elsewhere; a ban would have meant decommissioning the Druzhba pipeline and losing this delivery method. This did not happen due to the persistence of Hungary, which was secretly supported by several other countries.

As for tankers, the global oil market is unified, and until a global trade embargo is imposed against Russia (which is almost impossible), goods will be sent to other consumers, mainly those in Asia.

Even considering the discounts that customers from Asia will receive, they are always sensitive to the narrowing of their partner’s room for alternatives. However, the timeframe for the full implementation of even Brussels’ already agreed upon solution is still unknown.

Industry experts have unanimously agreed that there is no substitute for Russian oil in the EU at the moment, as the volumes available on the market are limited. So it cannot be ruled out that after the loud political declarations have faded from the headlines, there will be a very cautious and gradual implementation. In any case, the most interesting aspect of this story is not the tactical, but the strategic aspect.

Let’s assume that the EU does set a clear political goal of ending energy cooperation with Russia, and in the medium-term it will be possible to implement it. What would this mean for the world order?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 3, 2022 5:40 pm

Inflation is not being driven by high wage growth. How do we know this? We don’t have high wage growth.

The factors that are providing upward pressure right now on inflation are not wages. The whole concept that the sort of spiral that may be referred to in the early 1980s does not reflect the economic conditions now.

Yet.
I was alive in the early 1980’s. The booming 10%+ inflation was caused by the oil shock.

I don’t remember anyone receiving matching 10% wage/salary increases.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2022 5:41 pm

Watching some geek opining about Putin microManaging the War like Hitler, Surrounded by paintings and sculptures of Tsars, longing for Empire, Leigh Sales is biting her tongue to stop from bursting out laughing, the charade ends and she says
Thank you, Antony Beevor
Anyone ever heard of this dork before?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 3, 2022 5:43 pm

As sanctions fail and Russia advances, Western media changes its tune on Ukraine

Western media outlets, once cheerleaders for Kiev, are increasingly warning sanctions are failing and Ukraine needs to make peace

Even as the collective West continues to insist – against all observable reality – that the conflict in Ukraine is going well for Kiev, major media outlets are becoming increasingly uneasy with the situation on the economic front. More and more observers are admitting that the embargoes imposed by the US and its allies aren’t crushing the Russian economy, as originally intended, but rather their own.

Meanwhile, major publications have begun to report on the actual situation on the frontlines, rather than uncritically quoting myths like the ‘Ghost of Kiev’ or ‘Snake Island 13’ propagated by Volodymyr Zelensky’s office, as they did early on. There have even been hints, however timid, that the West should perhaps stop unconditionally supporting Kiev and promote a negotiated peace instead.

“Russia is winning the economic war,” the Guardian’s economics editor Larry Elliott declared on Thursday. “It is now three months since the west launched its economic war against Russia, and it is not going according to plan. On the contrary, things are going very badly indeed,” he wrote.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
June 3, 2022 5:45 pm

Burke rubbished suggestions that such wage rises would add to inflation pressures, saying:

Inflation is not being driven by high wage growth. How do we know this? We don’t have high wage growth.

The victim’s current problems are caused by a knife wound so shooting him won’t do any harm.

cohenite
June 3, 2022 5:50 pm

OldOzziesays:
June 3, 2022 at 5:31 pm
WHAT IS A WOMAN?

Matt Walsh is very good. The people he is going up against are a combination of freaks who have nothing to lose and misanthropes who treat them. The wider issue is normality and its derived values which underpin the West. The freaks and their treaters don’t just want to be part of the normality they want to destroy the old normality and its values. Walsh had better watch his back with these people.

Zipster
Zipster
June 3, 2022 5:56 pm

“Popcorn supply will be tight,” Preferred Popcorn chief executive Norm Krug told the Wall Street Journal.

just when we need it most! stock up while you still can

Zipster
Zipster
June 3, 2022 5:57 pm

Burke rubbished suggestions that such wage rises would add to inflation pressures, saying:

good to see this moron isn’t going to let us down on the road to clusterfuck from hell

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2022 6:00 pm

It’ll be utterly fascinating to learn the justification for banning the air export.

I read that 1 sheep has died out of 100,000’s of exports

.

It’s a ghastly trade involving ghastly people.
I’m doubtful the ALP will shut it down, though.

Delta A
Delta A
June 3, 2022 6:01 pm

Breaking from The Oz:

Biden’s son posted sex videos of himself.

Videos found on a laptop abandoned by Hunter Biden reveal the US president’s son made films of himself having sex with prostitutes and posted them on his own Pornhub account.

Oh, my gosh!

Imagine if that news had come to light prior to the 2020 election. Newspapers and MSM worldwide would have been all over it 24/7. Cutting questions would have been asked. Biden’s campaign would have been severely damaged. It might have changed the outcome of the election. Or even…

Yeah, nah.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2022 6:06 pm

Jono La Nauze, from Environment Victoria, said the market had spoken and it wanted to switch to cleaner renewables.

“Victoria doesn’t need a dirty hulking gas import terminal that would bring gas we simply do not need,” he said.

Fact free, pure emotion, with a tinge of vengefulness.

Zipster
Zipster
June 3, 2022 6:07 pm

m0nty-fa admits that the DemonRats are the Gerrymanderers. Small steps, acknowledging the problem is an essential start. He might even start to wonder is the fascist left actually has the good of the electorate at heart.

oh but they do, what’s not to love about cheerful squalor

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 3, 2022 6:09 pm

So there’s a thing called the Democracy Perception Index.
Some of those Teal hued favourites aren’t too popular, globally.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2022 6:15 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 3, 2022 at 5:41 pm
Watching some geek opining about Putin microManaging the War like Hitler, Surrounded by paintings and sculptures of Tsars, longing for Empire, Leigh Sales is biting her tongue to stop from bursting out laughing, the charade ends and she says
Thank you, Antony Beevor
Anyone ever heard of this dork before?

Well informed people have.

areff
areff
June 3, 2022 6:16 pm

Ita Buttrose to deliver Andrew Olle Media Lecture

This year’s Andrew Olle Media Lecture will be delivered by the ABC’s Chair, Ita Buttrose, to mark the broadcaster’s 90th anniversary. The lecture will be held at the Ivy Ballroom in Sydney on Friday 17th June and is open to the public. Ita will be talking about her career in journalism spanning 65 years, her views on Australian media, and the role the ABC plays as the country’s national broadcaster.

If our side evidenced the same bad manners that characterise the Left, she’d get a very hard time while attempting to explain why the ABC is wonderful, fair, unbiased and just so swell.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 3, 2022 6:17 pm

Failure of Russia sanctions expose fractures in the US and EU

Nick Wadhams – Bloomberg – Thu, 02 Jun 2022

Biden administration officials are divided over how much further the US can push sanctions against Russia without sparking global economic instability and fracturing transatlantic unity.

While President Joe Biden’s team rallied behind behind a sanctions plan it rolled out just after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the debate is more heated now that President Vladimir Putin has shrugged off the early economic penalties and is forging ahead with his war, according to officials familiar with the discussions.

Comment: Putin enjoys an approval rating that Western leaders could only dream of, and the West’s blatant designs on destroying have only served to strengthen their support. It’s because of Putin’s handling of the country, despite the relentless attacks he has suffered over the last two decades, that Russia is able to withstand the current all out assault.

The people, who asked not to be identified discussing internal deliberations, said factions have emerged over how hard to push. One group, which includes many officials at the State Department and White House, advocates even stricter measures known as secondary sanctions in response to Russian atrocities, arguing opposition from allies can be overcome.

Comment: Those advocating for more sanctions are either shockingly incompetent or dangerously pathological, and are therefore not fit for office, although it does help explain why the US is in the current dire state it’s in.

Another group of officials, many based at Janet Yellen’s Treasury Department, worry about further strains on a global economy already suffering from supply-chain woes, inflation, volatile oil prices and a potential food crisis. Some fret about the looming midterm elections and Democrats’ chances if prices at the pump stay high. They argue for a different, untested approach: a cap on oil prices that would allow countries to buy Russian energy while limiting Moscow’s income.

Comment: Some of what is now being felt is a result of the global lockdowns, any action taken now is likely only going to soften the blow, but, for the most part, it’s too late to entirely stop the catastrophic consequences.

“We’re now just coming up to the limit of how severely you can impose sanctions against a major economy without it having such bad spillover effects that you are creating a ton of bushfires elsewhere,” said Nicholas Mulder, a Cornell University professor and author of “The Economic Weapon,” a history of sanctions policy.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 3, 2022 6:21 pm

Anyone ever heard of this dork before?

Yep. Putin is the bloke in charge of Russia.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 3, 2022 6:26 pm

I’ve watched a few episodes of Yellowstone after hearing good reports.
What a load of miserable shit!
Every cowboy is a psych case and without the slightest tinge of good humour. Two leading characters gaze at the sun coming up over the mountains and comment that it’s the best part of the day. You wouldn’t know it from the surly looks and grim tones.
Gun use and violence is bordering on comical. Costner shoots a horse under the chin to put it down. A great way to get horse brains all over your Stetson.
A little kid who’s grown up on a reservation doesn’t know how to set wood to light a fire. He falls into a river like he was transported clueless straight from a Manhattan apartment.
I’ll keep watching in hope that something remotely interesting happens or they all get taken by aliens.
Two out of five horse droppings from me.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2022 6:27 pm

Larry Johnson, in interview with Eva B., said he had proof that Alexandra Chalupa flew members of Azov to D.C. for the rally/riot on Jan. 6, 2020.

From smoothie x-12

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2022 6:31 pm

What’s the latest advice for the Liberal Party?
Embrace Nuclear Power?
The tried that during Hawke’s time, lost 4 elections over the issue.
Economic Rationalism?
That was another Hawke Era Liberal Mantra, no one voted for it, but it gave Hawke cover to sell Australia out.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2022 6:34 pm

Thank you, Antony Beevor
Anyone ever heard of this dork before?

Who, Leigh Sales?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 3, 2022 6:36 pm

It’s a ghastly trade involving ghastly people.

Positively beastly old chap.
Lots of highly expensive stud stock of all kinds are transported by air. Spring racing carnival horses are too.
When will this ghastliness end?

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2022 6:40 pm

“ABC’s Chair, Ita Buttrose”

One of Morrison’s first significant decisions back in 2018 was to appoint the ghastly Buttrose as chair of their ABC.

One of Morrison’s last significant decisions was to throw yet more of our money at their ABC.

My God Morrison was a fool.

Remember she was one of Morrison’s picks, shortly after he became PM.

It was downhill

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2022 6:42 pm

Lots of highly expensive stud stock of all kinds are transported by air. Spring racing carnival horses are too.
When will this ghastliness end?

Really?
So, you would accept Legislation mandating live air export of sheep?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2022 6:48 pm

Ita was one of Scotty’s best picks, Katherine Deves his worst.

Liberal rule lasted 20 of the past 26 years, they did a good job picking up the wreckage of the Hawke/Keating Disaster and the Rudd/Gillard disaster and getting the Economy booming.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 3, 2022 6:48 pm

Really?
So, you would accept Legislation mandating live air export of sheep?

WTF Lady Edwina.
How did you drift off to that conclusion from my statement?
Your harder to fathom than a Teal election policy.

rickw
rickw
June 3, 2022 6:57 pm

Anyone up to date on Dickhead Dan and The EPA’s dumping of Pfas contaminated tunnel soil in The West?

rickw
rickw
June 3, 2022 7:01 pm

It’s a ghastly trade involving ghastly people.

Sheep see dying as some sort of sport you imbecile.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2022 7:04 pm

Anyone up to date on Dickhead Dan and The EPA’s dumping of Pfas contaminated tunnel soil in The West?

Andrews is a Right Winger who governs like a Right Winger.
The way he’s going, he’ll retire in the job.

shatterzzz
June 3, 2022 7:05 pm

Yellowstone .. I’ll keep watching in hope that something remotely interesting happens
Short answer .. It doesn’t .. LOL! American made for American audiences who, probably, understand how their political game is played … I got into it because of Costner but I gave it away after dragging myself thru 2 seasons and getting lost in their state politics plots ..

Zipster
Zipster
June 3, 2022 7:08 pm

Hong Kong Police warn against Tiananmen massacre’s 33rd anniversary gathering | Latest English News
June 4 marks the 33rd anniversary of the government crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrators in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square. Hong Kong police have warned that people risk breaking the law if they gather on Saturday to commemorate China’s Tiananmen crackdown.

shatterzzz
June 3, 2022 7:09 pm

Liberal rule lasted 20 of the past 26 years, they did a good job picking up the wreckage of the Hawke/Keating Disaster and the Rudd/Gillard disaster and getting the Economy booming.

soooooo the idea is that we have to survive, at least, 3 years before sanity prevails .. again!
Luv an optimist .. .. LOL!

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2022 7:11 pm

It’s not my job to figure out how to solve their problems,

mUnty drinking his own bathwater again?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 3, 2022 7:12 pm

Masks on a 13 hour flight?
Presumably whilst you are asleep as well.
Fuck ’em.

Yes, indeed. No-one in the mass-production Business Class (about 50 carels) on Emirates’ A380 was wearing their mask except on entering and departing the aircraft. Plenty of people, including us, enjoying sitting around the bar partying and getting to know each other, with only the staff masked. No need for masks at all at Heathrow. Dubai still fairly keen on masking. Back in Sydney, masks on for leaving the aircraft and not off until out into Arrivals where very few were wearing the mask. “Mandatory” is what you decide it is these days. Five glorious maskless weeks in the UK and no-one anywhere mentioning Covid. Very much yesterday’s obsession there. As usual, Australia completely contradictory in requirements causing as much confusion as ever: fill in an online Covid form hidden away in a corner of the site so hard to see; Novavax not on their list to even box tick it, then asking useless information they already had, causing all sorts of issues at check-in when not done, and still requiring a RAT test result for incoming non-residents on arrival. We residents are immune, they assume. Had to show the QR coded vaxx form at check-in but they couldn’t read the QR code, so that little piece of magic failed to work. Contradictory information everywhere as usual, says Hairy, have to give the new layer of Labor bureaucrats something to do to improve on ScoMo’s loonies. Axing the lot, as Boris did, is beyond them.

Immigration in though has improved as they have the self-service system up and running well, and customs was also a breeze, not x-raying everything incoming. I presume they still x-ray all outgoing luggage prior to loading it. This thought had worried me as the round iron wall plate I bought in Windsor for fifty quid from an antique shop, with the Crown and E11R on it in gold ( retrieved from a demolished public building) might have held things up. I thought it might go well in our new terrace conservatory. Hairy rolled his eyes heavenwards when I bought it. It will become a treasure in a few years when the Her Majesty is no longer with us, I say. They won’t be making any more of them.

Or none at least to rival Elizabeth 11 Regina. Happy and Glorious, sadly not long to reign now.

And wot is this Labor stuff about a Republic? Getting in early aren’t they? That’s a bit rude.

calli
calli
June 3, 2022 7:13 pm

Perhaps blinded by the success of the 2019 campaign, Morrison didn’t seem to appreciate that ostentatious masculinity repelled many educated women.

Thank goodness I’m not “educated” into imbecility!

I love a bit of ostentatious masculinity. It’s the best sort.

calli
calli
June 3, 2022 7:16 pm

“ABC’s Chair, Ita Buttrose”

When I read that, I always try to imagine what all the other furniture looks like.

Mostly Fantastic with the odd up-cycled piece thrown in. And at a Chippendale price.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 3, 2022 7:21 pm

Sheep see dying as some sort of sport you imbecile.

Never a truer word.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2022 7:22 pm

SloMo exudes about as much masculinity as a scatter cushion.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2022 7:24 pm

Groogs doesn’t like too many air miles on his mutton.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2022 7:26 pm

Sheep see dying as some sort of sport you imbecile.

Merino sheep, in particular, spend all their time thinking up new ways to die, while causing their owner the maximum stress….

calli
calli
June 3, 2022 7:30 pm

Last day of the Outback Adventure here at Narrabri. As all the Cats have complained, the temps have plummeted and the rain has set in. Much…much water along the roadside, telling us the story of the recent floods.

The cotton has been harvested leaving the immense expanses bristling with the dark, brittle remains of the bushes, the roadsides white with drifting cotton balls all caught in the spikey grasses. Great bales encased in yellow or bright blue plastic dot the paddocks ready for transport.

Roads are marked “open” or “caution”. All for a puddle across half the surface. We have become imbecilic in our need to quash risk. Work on side roads means a drop in speed on the unaffected highway.

Narrabri RSL boasts a dining room decked out as a bush shack with stuff collected from sheds and lots of corrugated iron. Including a couple of verandahs. During the meal, the sound of thunder and cracks of lightning – the verandahs started to drip! All the little ones gathered excitedly underneath to catch the water. Some designer somewhere has a vivid imagination – and a real sense of how important that rainfall is to the locals. Well done!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Farmer Gez says: June 3, 2022 at 6:26 pm

I’ve watched a few episodes of Yellowstone after hearing good reports.
What a load of miserable shit!

Watch every episode of (however many) seasons there are, see if there is even one scene, in just one episode, that would occur in the same manner in real life.

Just one. (This is a challenge – I do not believe such a scene exists)

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 3, 2022 7:34 pm

Groogs doesn’t like too many air miles on his mutton.

They dehydrate at altitude, making the sinews tougher to cut out and wrap round the handle of his pointing stick.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
June 3, 2022 7:36 pm

Banning the live export of sheep or cattle will not create more jobs here in WA. It will cause a drop in price of sheep / cattle for the simple reason the customers dont want chilled meat. The buyers will source live animals from Sth Africa, Mid east Africa and Sth America. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is the Middle East and North Africa’s largest livestock market, importing nearly 8 million head a year, including goats, cattle, sheep and camels, but Aust supplies none of these animals.

calli
calli
June 3, 2022 7:37 pm

spend all their time thinking up new ways to die

That takes me back fifty years to a property near Menangle, used by the Anglican church as a retreat/conference centre. There were a couple of dunnies in the back paddock for those caught short at fetes and the like.

You guessed it. A sheep had barged its way into the loo and couldn’t get out. Carked it, poor thing, leaving a hideous carcass to be disposed of.

In the Ladies, of course. Either a ewe or a wether, so at least it could read the sign.

Gyro Cadiz
Gyro Cadiz
June 3, 2022 7:38 pm

JCsays:
June 3, 2022 at 9:28 am
Gyro

Well, no.
But good on you if you are, and enjoy celebrations of sundry and diverse depravities as are run-of-the-mill in your chosen abode. Whatever floats your boat I guess. Just encourage NY’s perverts, degenerates, freaks and weirdoes to keep it over there, there’s a good fellow!

Tell us gyro, how enjoyable do you find the Sydney Mardi Gras? Are you in one of tbe floats?

My dear fellow, I am not in Australia. Your first default is to be personally offensive, as much as you think you can get away with. Why is that? You are gratuitously insulting, which is both a deliberate choice by you and also extraordinarily juvenile. You have chosen to call me a drug-addict and a homosexual; based on what? I have not responded in kind as I am not interested in acting like a ten-year old child, as you choose to do.

You consistently boast of being/living in NYC, that’s a deliberate choice. Fair enough, no argument, whatever floats your boat in terms of dwelling place, as previously noted. I merely have no idea why anyone would choose NYC. Yes I have been there and yes, there’s a long list of third world cities I have been to which are far superior to NYC and yes, I have criticised NYC. I have not criticised or insulted you.

Civility is the mark of the civilised and properly educated man. It’s a motto one should try to abide by.

One of the nice things about the New Cat is that it is a far more civil place than the old. A lot of that is because you, Monty and others who made the old site not worth anyone’s time have been pretty much brought to heel by the new management, ending the flame wars and open vituperation.

Now I am off as I have a pleasant seacoast to visit.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
June 3, 2022 7:39 pm

The last 12 days has shown us that AUSTRALIA IS GOVERNED BY FOOLS.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 3, 2022 7:42 pm

Anya Seton’s book Katherine was referenced on this blog by Lizzie not so long ago. I devoured that book in my teens. Apparently, Katherine was possessed of incredible feminine beauty** and despite her lowly origins, she became the ancestress of just about every monarch of England since the mid-fifteenth century. I am thinking of making a pilgrimage to her resting place in Lincolnshire.

Katherine’s tomb alongside that of her daughter Joan’s is in Lincoln Cathedral, but both tomb effigies were severely vandalised by Oliver Cromwell’s icon destroying axemen. A shame, as that was the only physical representation of Katherine we might be sure about. Alison Weir’s book “Katherine Swynford” is a recent historical analysis of whatever can be found about the lives of Katherine and John of Gaunt, discerning at least that her great beauty and intelligence were acknowledged at the time. Weir does some timeline analysis of gifts given at various stages in her life by John to Katherine to suggest they had a continuing warm relationship throughout their lives, their deep affection surviving their separation, although after Wat Tyer’s revolt and the burning of his Savoy palace John of Gaunt had to publicly repudiate her as his mistress.

The bare bones and medieval culture outlined by Weir put a less romantic and probably more realistic spin on events, which I find rather sadly can detract from the novel. However, given the joy many still find in Anya Seton’s novel, Weir has included a short chapter on that book at the end of her own. Personally, I think Weir speculates just as much as Seton ever did, so all bets are off. Katherine is still the heroine of my adolescent years, as she is for many. Within her time, she lived capably and well, a worthy subject for a romance. Weir does well to provide a more positive interpretation of John of Gaunt than that offered by many of his contemporaries and by later historians too.

You can still visit Kettlethorpe near Lincoln where Katherine spent many years, and where we stayed in Lincoln was a literal stone’s throw from the Cathedral Close where Katherine had a large townhouse which she used regularly. Little from the C14th however remains in either place, only an occasional window and doorway where Katherine may had stood. The Lincoln Cathedral Chapter were friendly to her when she was denigrated as a whore by other churchmen. Thomas Swynford was the child of her first marriage, to Sir Hugh Swynford. Best to note of male behaviour that these were brutal times.

cohenite
June 3, 2022 7:43 pm

Ita was one of Scotty’s best picks, Katherine Deves his worst.

Stop trying to take the piss; and why do you turn up when the fat little turd is absent.

local oaf
June 3, 2022 7:45 pm

Just spotted for the first time a WHO ad on fakebook, informing me that …

“The mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are as safe as other vaccines.”

Gates and Co feeling a little threatened?

rosie
rosie
June 3, 2022 7:47 pm

Thank you Calli shall be passing through Narrabri in day or three.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
June 3, 2022 7:55 pm

This is why Aust. live animal trade is in retreat.ESCAS . ESCAS requires exporters to have arrangements in place for the humane handling and slaughter of livestock in the importing country. Australia is the only country in the world with this kind of regulatory system. ESCAS is in place to ensure all livestock are handled and slaughtered in the importing country in accordance with the approved ESCAS. Countries like Saudi will not allow this level of interference in there internal market. All other live animal exporters do not ie DO NOT have this level of interference in another countries domestic market.

calli
calli
June 3, 2022 7:55 pm

We’re heading down the Newell to home tomorrow. The road is pretty good considering the hammering it has had over the past few months.

If you stop at Narrabri, have dinner at the RSL. It’s good. And fun.

They had the meat tray raffle tonight. I tried to convince The Beloved to buy a ticket, but he refused. As we left, I saw the massive amount of covered “prizes” in the cabinet and scanned the room. The odds looked pretty good to me.

Never mind. I will punish his parsimony with veggie burgers and the like over the next few nights. That’ll larn him. 🙂

johanna
johanna
June 3, 2022 7:57 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
June 3, 2022 at 5:04 pm

For the benefit of those who weren’t in Australia when the High Court ruled on Native title:

The ruling specifically excluded the ACT.
(This of course was based totally on legal principle and was nothing to do with protecting the homes of High Court Judges from native title claim)

Sorry to burst your bubble, but HC judges don’t live in Canberra – they are FIFOs.

When I briefly lived in Killara, Sydney in the 1980s, the then Chief Justice lived a few doors down. Since he was a keen gardener and walked for exercise, I often saw him at or near his home. He didn’t spend much time in Canberra, so I doubt if he had much (if anything) invested in the real estate market there.

His fellow Justices would have been the same, as none of them came from Canberra, and none of the current ones do either.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
June 3, 2022 8:03 pm

ESCAS goes as far as TRACEABILITY. The exporter must be able to trace the location of all livestock at all points of the supply chain. This must occur from when they are unloaded overseas, to their slaughter at an approved abattoir or point of killing. Imagine trying to trace each animal you sold in a country the size of Saudi?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Sorry to burst your bubble, but HC judges don’t live in Canberra – they are FIFOs.

Okay, none of them give a flying congress what happens to property in Canberra.
Whatever their reason for specifically excluding ACT leasehold from being claimed, it wasn’t concern for their house.

(Thank you for that nugget)

calli
calli
June 3, 2022 8:06 pm

Correction. We part company here with the Newell and head down the Kamilaroi to the New England.

The first rain we have seen in six weeks since the heavens opened over Darwin.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2022 8:10 pm

“Perth Tradersays:
June 3, 2022 at 7:39 pm
The last 12 days has shown us that AUSTRALIA IS GOVERNED BY FOOLS.”

I think such inept governance has been happening for a lot longer than 12 days…..try decades.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 3, 2022 8:13 pm

Cali, using the Kamilaroi Hwy? if you haven’t been down it in a while the speed limits have been lowered in a number of areas between Narrabri & Gunnedah. The long strait areas between Narrabri & Boggabri are double white lines so no overtaking in areas once allowed.

Gunnedah to Quirindi isn’t too bad though. If you can stand the idiots round the Liverpool Plains and their lock the gate/pseudo greens signs everywhere. I often used to wonder that after considering less than 2% was going to be the mine lease they jacked up about, what happens when the scorpion on your back (being the greens) stings you. Their choice but “mmm misguided they are.”

calli
calli
June 3, 2022 8:23 pm

Thanks Doc. Thirteen thousand klms so far, we’ve encountered every type of halfwit bred to drive the Aussie highways and byways. And plenty of really decent, interesting people too.

The Beloved is now planning to do the Big Lap in 2024, seeing that we aren’t remotely ready for a divorce after this one.

Rabz
June 3, 2022 8:25 pm

Wow – this is almost inexplicable in its ahistorical idiocy – wage price spiral, anyone?

From the Oz:
LIVE: POLITICS NOW
Labore backs 5.1% minimum wage rise*
‘We don’t want wukkas to go backwards’, says government as it backs increase in submission to Fair Work Commission’s minimum wage review.

Mind you, the FWC has been consistent in delivering a minimum wage increase that is always at the mid point of the unions’ and employers’ suggested rises.

This year? Having gone back and consulted the historical stats – here we are.

Last year’s was 2.5%, the last five years’ average being 2.8%. The largest increase in the last ten years was 3.5% in July 2019. (the largest before that in the last twenty years was 5.7% in July 2006)

This year’s will likely be between 3.5% to 4.5%. The upwards spiral may have been stepped onto.

Next, CPI rates.

*As promised by Albansleazey during his disastrous campaign

Rabz
June 3, 2022 8:39 pm

Some CPI rates for your edification on a Friday night, Cats:

Last year’s (i.e. 2020-21) was 3.8%, the last five years’ average being 1.8%. The second largest increase in the last ten years was 3% for 2013-14 (the largest before that in the last twenty years was 4.5% for 2007-08, although 2000-01 was 6%).

The CPI rate for 2019-20 was -0.3%. The CPI for the twelve months from 31 December 2020 to 31 December 2021 was 3.5%.

This year’s (i.e. 2021-22) will likely be between 4.5% – 5.5%. The “real rate” for those of us existing in the “real world” will likely be much higher, depending on what you’ve been splashing your cash on (willingly or otherwise).

For me, it’s been the mortgage. Still the best cash rate around.

Rabz
June 3, 2022 8:43 pm

Sacré bleu – after all those sleep inducing factlets about various components of the economy, it’s time for a reminder of tomorrow night’s radio show – “Seventies Rock 1969-78” …
🙂

Rabz
June 3, 2022 8:49 pm

err, Hello??? 😕

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 3, 2022 8:51 pm

Hacking away at the AEC website, can’t get a summary of voter turnout %.
Any Cat know the score?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2022 8:53 pm

War hero Ben Roberts-Smith has been wounded, whatever the result

Stephen Rice
NSW EDITOR
@riceyontheroad
34 minutes ago June 3, 2022

After 99 days of hearings and $30m tipped into the pockets of lawyers, the de facto war crimes trial of Ben Roberts-Smith has come to a close.

It was a battle of his own choosing but the war hero has come out of it badly wounded, with a verdict still months away.

Defamation cases are unruly beasts that have a habit of heading off in directions no one predicted. Ask Christian Porter and Craig McLachlan.

This one charged out of the gate head-first into a series of killings in Afghanistan, trampling over the testimony of a dozen SAS witnesses, then swerved back home to carve a path of destruction through the Victoria Cross ­recipients’ marriage and his extra­marital affair, before pulling up in his own backyard to dig up a pink children’s lunch box and its hoard of secrets.

And that was all before the 43-year-old former SAS soldier called his own witnesses.

The trial has at least gone the distance, unlike the Porter case, which the former attorney-general gave up before it ever properly got going, and the McLachlan case, which the actor abandoned just as the defence was about to bring on its 11 witnesses.

Both decided to cut their losses and walk away with hefty legal bills, but neither had the deep pockets and even deeper loyalty of Roberts-Smith’s employer and patron, billionaire media mogul Kerry Stokes.

Roberts-Smith may be wondering if that was a blessing or a curse. Whatever judge Anthony Besanko finds when he hands down his judgment later this year, a parade of SAS soldiers has given eyewitness accounts of the VC ­recipients’ alleged involvement in murder.

Roberts-Smith has denied all the claims, and plenty of other soldiers have given evidence backing him. But the headlines have been merciless. Vindication, if it arrives, will have come at a heavy price.

The understated Besanko runs his court with quiet authority, rarely interjecting but ready to pull up even the most ­senior members of the bar.

When Roberts-Smith’s barrister Arthur Moses SC raised his voice and interrupted the answer of one SAS witness he was cross-examining, Besanko admonished him: “Just pause, Mr Moses, I won’t tolerate raising the voice to the ­extent you did in this court.”

“Yes, Your Honour, I won’t do that,” Moses replied.

Besanko is, in short, the judge you’d want if you were that innocent person caught Hollywood-style bending over the body of the victim with a bloodied knife in your hand. The kind of judge who can be relied upon to see through a thicket of lies.

And many witnesses in this case have lied. The conflicting accounts of what happened in the two central SAS missions at issue in the trial are irreconcilable.

You don’t forget or mistake seeing one of your comrades fire a machinegun into the back of a ­detained, unarmed man. You ­either saw it or you made it up.

You don’t crawl into a Taliban tunnel armed only with a pistol and forget or mistake finding two Afghan males hiding in it – men allegedly executed minutes later. You’ve either lied about it or there were no men in the tunnel.

Yet each of the SAS soldiers who told these stories – one on ­behalf of the newspapers, the other for Ben Roberts-Smith – were compelling witnesses, plainly spoken men who seemed to give earnest, detailed accounts. The judge will need to work through dozens of such conundrums.

The last weeks of the trial have been overshadowed by allegations of collusion between a small inner circle of Roberts-Smith’s witnesses, a potentially fatal blow for his case.

Equally, Roberts-Smiths’ lawyers have spent dozens of hours probing the newspapers’ witnesses for acknowledgment they were motivated by jealousy for Roberts-Smith’s VC award, or simply by outright dislike of the soldier, a hard task-master who by his own admission once punched a subordinate in the face for wildly shooting in the direction of a woman and child. (To be fair, he is also alleged to have threatened to smash in the face of a superior officer, although Roberts-Smith has denied making the threat.)

In theory, Roberts-Smith doesn’t have to prove anything. The onus is on Nine to prove the substantial truth of what its journalists wrote. But it only needs to do so on the balance of probabilities, not to the criminal case standard of beyond reasonable doubt.

And it only needs to prove one case of murder. After that, Roberts-Smith’s reputation would be worthless.

Rabz
June 3, 2022 8:58 pm

Any Cat know the score?

No, Wally, it’s been deliberately obscured to hide the Albansleazy goat rodeo’s illegitimacy – and if it hasn’t I’m over attempting to post detailed evidence of anything on this site tonight, mate.

Although the legitimate vote in my electorate continues to hover around 70%.

Take that, compulsory democracy! 🙂

#anillegitimategovernmentledbyanillegitimateimbecile

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
June 3, 2022 9:06 pm

Perth Trader

You must be wrong.
The minister was posteriorlating* that the industry was dying off naturally all by itself.

* there’s going to be some serious posteriorlating when electricity prices double and the lights still flicker.

Barry
Barry
June 3, 2022 9:14 pm

local oaf says:
June 3, 2022 at 7:45 pm

Just spotted for the first time a WHO ad on fakebook, informing me that …

“The mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are as safe as other vaccines.”

Gates and Co feeling a little threatened?

Interesting angle to say the least.

So now they admit that other vaccines are as dangerous as mRNA. Hardly a ringing endorsement.
Won’t convince the skeptical, and might make the “anti-this-vaccine” folks think again about traditional vaxes.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 3, 2022 9:20 pm

Last day of the Supreme Court case v cop mandates. CM article :

“Queensland’s Police Commissioner insists she is sticking to mandatory Covid-19 vaccination directions for all police officers and staff, despite some interstate police scrapping mandates. “I still have the view that the direction needs to stand,’’ Police Commissioner Katarina Carroll told the Supreme Court, saying she had reviewed her decision this week.

She said she was aware Queensland Fire and Emergency Services ruled out mandatory vaccination in February and South Australian Police Service dropped it in March. Under cross-examination by counsel for police challenging her vaccination directions, Ms Carroll revealed she had Covid-19 five or six weeks ago, after having three vaccine doses. “I used two Rapid Antigen Tests, they were both negative, but something was not quite right and I went and immediately got a PCR test and it proved to be positive,’’ Ms Carroll said.

More than 60 police officers and 12 ambulance officers are trying to overturn mandatory vaccination directions, in a legal challenge in the Supreme Court in Brisbane. Ms Carroll was grilled for a second day about her decisions to introduce and maintain successive mandatory vaccination directions for 18,000 police and staff. She said she had delegated Deputy Commissioner Doug Smith to make recommendations about vaccination, but the decision was ultimately hers.

She agreed that she was aware that ATAGI recommended vaccine booster doses in December because the effectiveness of vaccinations had waned. The Commissioner was asked whether in considering human rights of police before her December vaccination direction she had regard to the fact that police vaccination was in the high 90 per cent. “It wasn’t part of the assessment,’’ the Commisioner said. When asked by Dominic Villa SC if she was aware by December that mandatory vaccination for police officers and staff had limited utility in preventing transmission of Omicron, she said “yes’’.

Ms Carroll agreed that she knew mandatory vaccination significantly limited human rights, which were protected by Queensland law. She was asked by Dan O’Gorman SC if she would prefer that Queensland Police Service did not have people who conscientiously objected to Covid-19 vaccination.
“Not really I’m indifferent to it,’’ Ms Carroll said, adding there were a lot of reasons why police members objected to it.

The Commissioner said she was aware of the Health Minister announcing last week that unvaccinated people could enter hospitals. She also was aware that national Cabinet had changed the definition of a close contact and in January the Chief Health Officer said “all of us are going to be exposed to Omicron’’. After putting to the Commissioner that masks were no longer mandatory and since December QR codes were no longer needed, Mr O’Gorman asked if she had considered having a serious look at her direction.

“We have looked at the direction. We reviewed it. I still have the view that the direction needs to stand,’’ Ms Carroll said, saying 1060 people had died from Covid in the last few months. (My comment : here is why the stats are so important as they just simply throw out the death numbers to back them up. Hard to know if asked but SC should have asked average age of deaths compared to average police officer age).

She said advice from ATAGI was that the best way to reduce serious illness from Covid-19 was to get two vaccinations and a booster.

The civil trial will resume of Thursday for oral submissions”.

She wont back down. If you are a Qld cop she will keep on jabbing as unfortunately vax rates are now a key performance indicator for many.

duncanm
duncanm
June 3, 2022 9:22 pm

The ruling specifically excluded the ACT.

I’m no legal type (far from it).. but have a gander at https://aiatsis.gov.au/sites/default/files/research_pub/native_title_information_handbook_2016_act_2.pdf

The ACT Government has not enacted any legislation confirming extinguishment of
native title by particular types of tenure. The Native Title Act 1994 (ACT) confirms
Crown ownership of all natural resources, rights to use, control and regulate the flow
of water and existing fishing access rights; as well as existing public access to and
enjoyment of waterways, beds, banks and foreshores of waterways and areas that
were public places as at 31 December 1993. The ACT Government has not enacted
an alternative ‘right to negotiate’ regime.

now given that Native title may be recognised in relation to vacant Crown land, state forests, national parks, public reserves, pastoral leases, beaches, foreshores and waters, government or other public land and Indigenous held land (under land rights legislation). , I don’t understand the exemption.

Of course the kicker here is vacant land.

duncanm
duncanm
June 3, 2022 9:22 pm

oh, and pastoral leases. Not rural/other.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 3, 2022 9:23 pm

Wally Dalí says: June 3, 2022 at 8:51 pm

Hacking away at the AEC website, can’t get a summary of voter turnout %.

They obscured it to begin with, and we have to assume the latest is the ‘real’ figure.
From ABCess and AEC:

“The number being quoted here is an extremely premature point-in-time number of ballot papers counted by the AEC just under one week into the count,” the Commission’s election disinformation register states.
“It is not an accurate measure of electoral turnout and should not be compared with turnout figures from earlier elections, which were produced after all ballot papers had been received and counted.”

That suggests they have changed the definition of turnout since last `leckshun.

Rabz
June 3, 2022 9:24 pm

Bluddee hell – apologies for missing the latest quarter’s results Cats:

The CPI for the twelve months from 31 March 2021 to 31 March 2022 was 5.1%.

This year’s (i.e. 2021-22) will likely be between (revised) 5.5% – 6.5%.

Or more, as we know it. Keep an eye on those electrickery, gas and fuel bills, as well as all the others.

Gee, what might be to blame for all of this?

Collectivism.

Good and hard, increasingly.

duncanm
duncanm
June 3, 2022 9:25 pm

Ms Carroll said, saying 1060 people had died from Covid in the last few months.

yup. Out of over 1million cases. So that’s a 0.1% (bad sniffle) rate.

Rabz
June 3, 2022 9:31 pm

Ms Carroll said, saying 1060 people had died from Covid in the last few months

Yeah, bullshit.

Again.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Ms Carroll said, saying 1060 people had died from Covid in the last few months.

Yet she does not cite road crash death statistics as a justification for ordering all police cars to be remain parked at the station.

Why not? (It’s just as silly)

132andBush
132andBush
June 3, 2022 9:34 pm

Never mind. I will punish his parsimony with veggie burgers and the like over the next few nights. That’ll larn him. ?

No shortage of gas at yours then, Calli?
In this day and age it can be considered a luxury 🙂

Rabz
June 3, 2022 9:36 pm

Berka – in others words, they have not stopped counting.

Patience. I’m so looking forward to the combination of those who voted informal and didn’t turn up in my electorate remaining at about 30% of registered voters.

Although it would have been somewhat less disillusioning if the rate had been higher this election.

#anillegitimategovernmentledbyanillegitimateimbecile

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 3, 2022 9:47 pm

Elbow pushing for 5.1% increase in the minimum wage.
So in this country the only way to guarantee your wage gets increased with CPI is to be on the minimum.

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