Your social circle and mine don’t have much intersection.
Open Thread – Weekend 4 Jun 2022
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- The Sweetest Victory
- Open Thread – Weekend 9 November 2024
- Open Thread – Thurs 7 Nov 2024
- US Presidential Election 2024 Thread
Bed!
Our opponents don’t have principles – they have tactics. It’s about time we stopped pretending otherwise.
Thanks.
I have one original 21 inch wheel off the car, which I just reshod with new rubber at $300 a…
Al Goodwyn #2.
Ben Garrison.
That’s some seriously poor advice.
Despite being over the counter Paracetamol [Acetimophen, brand name Tylenol in the U.S.], is an Hepatotoxin [kills Liver cells] and the margin between the therapeutic dose [max 4,000 mg/24 hours] and a fatal dose is quite small.
Then there’s the fact that Paracetamol isn’t much good as a pain drug anyway.
Here’s the Good Oil on Paracetamol [Acetaminophen , or APAP] from The Journal of Hepatology.
Don’t get concerned. It doesn’t mean it’s 100% heading to US$300 a barrel.
Trader’s blog.
Calli and Winston have had there share of personal tragedy but resist the temptation to turn it into some tacky competition that’s all to common. This makes a difference.
Life is good.
A few random gleanings with a common thread:
That slaughter of fifty people in a church in Nigeria. Gunmen enter, lock the doors and start shooting. The Nigerian govt then says the motive is unclear.
That is enraging.
In India, BBC reports, riots and violence break out after two Hindu politicians say something about Islam and the Prophet. BBC very, very, very careful not to tell us what was said, but guessing it may be along the lines of child sex abuser.
Geoffrey Wheatcroft out and about publicising his recent bio of Churchill which inevitably slams him as a racist because of his dislike of Islam etc.
Nigel Farage says the overwhelming concern of people he spoke to during the Jubilee Parade was migrants crossing the channel.
Elbow like most politicians is an idiot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBQ-xsvhul0
These people have no qualms about destroying you and your family.
No shit.
Local Bunnins still have a few staff wearing masks apart from that back to normal.
Dodging boomers in the car park.
Next level Boy Scouts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_zZeWpJ9Hg
If only we had some sort of strategic fuel reserve.
Yep, just as I said before the election. Two weeks is all it took.
No nukes is a doctrine of the ALP religion to holy to overturn.
Any mini tanks still around, rickw?
Jorge, TheirABC reported that the Indian Government’s equivalent of the senior Press Secretary has resigned/been sacked after disrespecting The Prophet. They are also very careful not to let us know what was actually said, not even a hint. That’s frank and fearless news for you in 2022.
Meanwhile, I see that the despicable Boris Johnson has survived a no-confidence vote by his own party. The difficulty is that there is no viable alternative candidate. Boris, like all poor leaders, has ensured that anyone who shows talent and moxie is kept in obscurity on the backbench. His Ministers are a bunch of mediocrities.
With all the shortcomings of Bob Hawke (and they are many) he was secure enough in himself to allow talented and hard working people to be senior Ministers with minimal interference, which ultimately shored up his government. Howard was similar, although he didn’t have as many good performers to choose from.
Meddlers and control freaks like Rudd and Turnbull quickly destroy their governments. Mediocrities like Morrison and Boris fail to develop talent in their teams for obvious reasons, and the destruction may take a bit longer.
Those of us who have worked in hierarchies in the public and private sectors have met all of these types. The good ones are uncommon, just as they are in politics.
Ed:
Going back 20 years, the lowest recorded fatal dose was 13 grams of Paracetamol. 26 tabs.
I regularly take 3000 – 4000 mg daily for migraines, and have done for 5 years. My liver pathology is quite normal.
The antidote – acetylcysteine – is effective if given within 8 hours but drops off quickly after that.
“johannasays:
June 7, 2022 at 6:45 am”
Agree Johanna.
Although I will say this about Boris, he did manage to convincingly beat the unsavoury Jeremy Corbyn, in an electoral landslide. However here in Oz, only two weeks ago, the utterly useless, supine and cowardly Scott Morrison gifted to this country Australia’s own version of Jeremy Corbyn, Anthony Albanese.
Cass, Albo has his faults, but he is a long way from being as toxic as Corbyn. Corbyn is a straightout Marxist, no apologies, and happily tolerated anti-Semitism until forced at gunpoint to do otherwise.
Believe it or not, UK politicians are even worse than ours.
Knuckle Dragger:
But we have!
It’s in the US.
We also have lots of oil here in Australia. Our problem is that we don’t know where it is, because the Greenies won’t let us look for it or pump it out of the ground when we do find it. Or build refineries to turn it into fuel when we need it.
Neither of us need to put smilies in our posts, do we?
“That slaughter of fifty people in a church in Nigeria. Gunmen enter, lock the doors and start shooting. The Nigerian govt then says the motive is unclear.
That is enraging.”
It’s worse than enraging, it’s a fatal combination of dhimmitude and deliberate gaslighting. But I suppose, according to Monty and his ideological buddies, the perpetrators had “legitimate grievances”.
Am curious as to what people think of the Barilaro/Google verdict.
I heard that we were about to lease nuclear subs from UK and USA . Scomo was putting nuclear porta in WA ans NSW.
On This Day:
One of the largest non-nuclear explosions ever. Ten. Thousand. Dead, inside the 20 seconds it took to detonate them all.
Despite this, the Chermans still managed to cultivate a glass-top coffee table industry. Evil never sleeps.
Apologies for typos , freezing again this morning so huddled up in bed with Ipad.
That’s why Marles is saying “he doubts Australia will be able to build its first nuclear submarine”. Strawman.
No one in their right mind would build nuclear submarines here. You buy them from the US. So he’s using the strawman argument to “explain” why we have to abandon nuclear subs.
The Left really do live in la.la land. Went to dinner at friends’ place last night in Sydney. They are genuinely lovely people – but left over hippies (now very prosperous) from 70s.
Topics from dinner – Russia really is going to win in Ukraine, aren’t they? Poor Julian Assange, when are they going to let him go? The stock market isn’t going to crash… everything will be fine. Isn’t Penny Wong doing a great job? We survived the Covid years OK, the restrictions were liveable, weren’t they?
We are very fond of this couple as they are kind and otherwise good company. But the positions they have reached on so many issues mystifies me.
Thank you Bespoke. Life is good.
Hey Min! Me, too! Husband always watches breakfast TV for “news”….I grab IPad to discover “real news”.
What this country’s doing:
‘I quite like the look of that Toyota Hilux. I might build a couple from scratch in the shed.’
Wrong signature for last comment! Me “Vicki”!
Sorry -Name tag had been altered! Gremlins!
Millions of dollars from the ACT gubbmint to a one man consultancy company.
The brief:
The official explanation is also about as limpid as the Yarra:
CIT is funded by ACT ratepayers.
$5 meg for that! There are wordsmiths here who could have romped that in, and probably convinced them that it would cost at least seven. 🙂
A way to slough off poor decisions, Joh? It was the consultant wot dun it?
These government “executives” appear to be unable to stand on their own two feet, think laterally, own their actions and see them through to completion.
Makes you wonder how they got their jobs in the first place.
The main problem is reduced refinery capacity in the US and globally – apparently exacerbated by sanctions on Russia and fuckery by China.
The chart in the attached article shows how the refinery crunch came out of nowhere in March.
One for China watchers.
Is China’s Military Command Prepping for War? (FrontPage Mag, 6 Jun)
No idea about the veracity, although I suspect there’ve been such meetings regularly since Mao was head honcho.
Toxic stupidity.
https://jacquetteaugh.medium.com/i-knew-johnny-depp-was-abusive-in-5-minutes-dc9a522e5ed5
Give us your thoughts on pandemic models and climate models, m0nster.
Calli
Makes you wonder how they got their jobs in the first place.
Maaaaaaates??
The modern equivalent of The Drover’s Wife just tromped out to see her son in hospital. I’ve described her before.
She was wearing a thin cotton dress with a meagre cardigan, bare legs, elastic sided boots and short socks.
It is currently 5C, misty and damp, with occasional wind gusts straight from the snow.
Meanwhile, the tradies are hopping into their comfortable, heated vehicles for another day of making lotsa money.
Life in this country motel is far from boring.
Re submarine , I have a relative in the navy with an English submarine boyfriend who was coming to OZ to train us with nuke submarine.. Will Marles also break up a romance?
I like how monty was giving himself a “like” on each comment yesterday.
They should have asked him how to model it.
No model is perfect. Is general relativity perfect?
Perfect competition accurately (enough) describes wheat farming. Monopolistic competition accurately describes shops like your old Video Ezy franchise. Monopoly models, oligopoly and locational models (Hotelling, von Thunen) are more or less correct.
Keynes. Now there is some real garbage that doesn’t work empirically, let alone in an open economy.
Prescott and Kydland’s real business cycle model is fairly predictive; the Austrian school on business cycles is not mathematised but it is correct about credit cycles.
I want monty to explain why the concept of total physical product and diminishing returns is wrong.
If he can do that, he can start rewriting microeconomics.
Journalist eh? About the lowest form of life on the planet. Even worse than lawyers and that’s saying something!
132andBushsays:
June 7, 2022 at 8:13 am
I like how monty was giving himself a “like” on each comment yesterday.
Dick Ed often gets (just) one “like”. Sometimes I wonder if Dick is a sock of m0nty-fa, or if they have a mutual backscratching deal.
I think it is yuuuge.
He got $715k out of Google.
And this is no rogue judicial decision. Google basically folded on all elements of their defence as the case progressed – they didn’t follow their own rules about content, they ignored or summarily dismissed complaints and, most damning, left the defamatory material up even after the author (Friendly Jordies) has apologised and settled another court case.
Getting ahead of himself.
They haven’t chosen between the US and Brit options yet.
Yes, indeed. Corbyn was an out and proud Marxist who made the UK Liars unelectable, but the Australian prime minister is just an old-fashioned Trokskyist who’s trying to hide his ideological past — not a problem for the socialist Australian electorate, considering how hopeless Trumble’s love child Morrison was.
It may take Elbow all of 12 months for us to find out what the ALP proletariat really has in store for us (beyond signalling that the Liars will start disarming Australia with the cancellation of the nuke subs, because they’re against the lefty religion).
HR should be a purely administrative function – make sure the payslips come through, hand out the notices, employment contracts, that sort of thing.
Any function beyond that is a complete waste of everyone’s time.
“I think it is yuuuge.
He got $715k out of Google.
And this is no rogue judicial decision. Google basically folded on all elements of their defence as the case progressed – they didn’t follow their own rules about content, they ignored or summarily dismissed complaints and, most damning, left the defamatory material up even after the author (Friendly Jordies) has apologised and settled another court case.”
Thanks SP, I agree. It’s also exposed their hypocrisy. Google, who own Youtube, are always very quick to take down anyone who questions/critiques/ridicules the religion of pieces, anyone who dares to question Covid origins, lockdowns and vaccine mandates, anyone who dares to query the trans nonsense yet they’ll leave up clearly defamatory material about a right of centre politician.
From New Cat’s Retweet,
Navalny is not the leader of Russia’s main opposition party, his party is about 4th or 5th. His imprisonment is the equivalent of us throwing Pauline Hanson in jail.
Of course, we would never do that, except for the time that we did.
We aren’t getting any submarines. Also wait for other defence procurement reversals.
$715K is copper change to Google.
On another note, TheirABC has just put up a long article about the chilly and wet conditions in southern Australia – and guess which buzzphrase that appears in every second article, from abalone to wombats, didn’t appear.
Apparently Gaia is not angry when it’s cold.
I am in day 4 of covid infection, how is that jab jab booster booster going for you?
There is no doubt in my mind that we have been used as guinea pigs in a global medical experiment.
Of course I am talking about the mRNA vaccines which have been rolled out for ’emergency use’.
That’s medical code for ‘we haven’t done the usual exhaustive tests but you should be ok’. Unfortunately all is not ok.
The ongoing data shows the side-effects of these jabs are more numerous and more dangerous than many expected. I discussed this with a cardiologist recently and he effectively said he had never been busier and that he suspected the jabs were the reason why.
https://www.corybernardi.com.au/posts/medical-guinea-pigs/
Not worthy of further comment.
People share things here and I hope they will always feel free to do so.
Nope, just to fuck with them for breaking everything … when I was arrested I was asked if I identifed as Aboriginal, TSI, Both or neither…. I said ‘Yes’ … they said which one – I said ‘Tick all 4 boxes’ … they moved on… but they did ask if i wanted to see the Aboriginal Liason Officer. 😉
If you only look at this case alone.
But what of all the other stuff on Google and other platforms attacking many other conservatives?
If they choose they could now just set a letter of demand and Google would be done.
This is an important precedent as it holds Google liable as the publisher, not a mere platform provider. The point is, they cannot deny that they are a publisher with editorial responsibility because, as Cassie says, they have exercised editorial control on far more benign conservative material.
So, when they are coughing up $2 meg to $5 meg a day in defamation, do you think it will be loose change then?
Based on the Barilaro decision, George Pell, Tony Abbott, Alan Jones and Pauline Hanson could pocket $20-$30 million each without breaking into a sweat.
johanna says:
June 7, 2022 at 6:45 am
johanna, your insights of how public ‘service’ and government works are always welcome.
How UK people get told they are evil:
A major new survey shows that most people wildly overestimate the size of racial, ethnic, sexual and other minorities in UK society.
Respondents thought 20 per cent of the British population was black. The true figure is more like 3 per cent. The survey’s median guess was that 5 per cent of us are transgender. In reality, between 0.3 and 0.7 per cent identify as a different gender from their biological sex.
So why would the normally intelligent British public get this basic arithmetic about our society so wrong? Might it be because Britain’s Leftist woke elites are obsessed with identity politics, and determined to re-educate the rest of us to accept their prejudices?
Daily Mail
Watching the Jubilee concert the other night, I noticed that the vast majority of back-up singers and dancers were bleck.
And one routine involving a mock-up fashion parade catwalk had almost entirely OTT trannie models, with zero contextual relationship to the song being played or, more importantly, the Queen’s jubilee.
I opened my heart here last night concerning my children and grandchildren and what I have tried to do to ameliorate a difficult situation and prepare for my grandchildren’s good future – in response to Winston’s belief that grandparents are doing nothing. I wanted to make it clear that many grandparents are doing a lot. Raising perfect children is not for everyone; only two of my four are perfect, and in fact, they really aren’t, being flawed like most people in some aspects.
Bespoke’s comment was extremely hurtful, although Calli rightly appreciated it as the compliment it intended towards her. I think the ‘it’s not a competition’ statement which followed was unpleasant and was directed at me and perhaps others here who have been through some very difficult family times, not necessarily of their own making, and of various sorts. Raising such experiences is not any attempt at competition or one-upmanship. We all have had differing lives.
I spoke of grief. That grief sometimes completely overwhelms me.
There’s a village deep in Midsomer’s badlands that is entirely populated by coloured folk.
It would make a fascinating anthropological study for an aspiring PhD student.
Not sure that things like general relativity should be compared with models from the arts faculty.
Break the system with their own rules. It will force them to devise a means of regulating who is and isn’t indigenous which by definition would be apartheid. Also it would flush out the Pascoe types.
LOL. That cheered me up.
They had to offer the ALO in case you later came at them for discrimination.
Whatever you feel like on the day, and in multiples because who says you can’t do coterminous feelz?
Film noir: Brixton Confidential.
FFS, Lizzie, this is not your personal therapy group. Pity parties are boring.
BTW, I missed out on Rabz’ music nite, having a previous dinner engagement. A shame, since it was my era.
But what really shocked me was the omission of the greatest anthem:
RADAR LOVE
Philistines.
And, you may scoff away at platform shoes and flares, Slade did the business:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INyLcxQFfaw
That’s ‘Hear me callin’,.
Like Status Quo, Slade were loathed by the critics and loved by the punters. The punters weren’t wrong, they were a very tight band, high end in musicianship and performance.
No idea why they’d think that.
Strictly speaking, general relativity is a hypothesis, not a model.
General relativity has been empirically verified many times over, sometimes by the discovery of features Einstein predicted, but could not yet prove. In short, his theory has proven to be astonishingly accurate.
No idea why they’d think that II.
To be pedantic, his theory has failed to be disproven yet, despite rigorous attempts.
/first year off.
So who has been giving them the impression that one in five people in black, or that men splitting the seams of dresses and with make up that looks like it was applied with a paint-roller in the dark comprise one person in 20?
Lol, Joh. As I said on the dedicated thread, it isn’t rock and roll if you can’t dance to it!
That guy’s red pants were painted on. Chuckle.
No idea why they’d think that III.
Yes.
Thank you Noddy Holder.
Speaking of Status Quo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7dzHnD3XzA
‘Old time Rock and Roll’ by them in ancient mode. But, boy those guys can play, as tight as a drum, and having fun.
If I hadn’t been out that night, Status Quo upticks would have increased as well as Slade’s. :).
Ah, but it only makes business sense if you omit the externalities of the pollution.
It’s the oldest trick in the book for capitalism. Create a market based on a common good, ignore externalities caused by production, and claim the profits. The owners win, everyone else loses.
We’re a bit smarter than that now.
Which is just as he would have wished.
“There’s a village deep in Midsomer’s badlands that is entirely populated by coloured folk.”
Ah that explains it. That must be the same village Anne Boleyn came from, hence the reason to use a black actress to play her in a recent television adaption.
Status Quo were tight because they didn’t deviate a millimetre from the redneck boogie formula. The first formula that everyone learns.
Scuttles off…
Lizzie & 9.15am
I am so sorry to hear of your grief re grandparent problems & some unfortunate comments by fellow Cats.
As a grandparent I understand very strongly the difficulties of providing guidance. I was shocked over the years of attending “grandparents days” at primary & later secondary schools with the deterioration in basic education & the blatant promotion of climate change & diversity agendas. Where we dared, we expressed this at the state & private schools over the years – but we’re always constrained by daughters wrath & fear of retribution upon the kids.
Re the trials & tribulations of the growing pains of the grandchildren themselves I have often bored the Cats with the tales – which are still developing. The influence of climate change & diversity agendas are still being fought by us in a rearguard battle.
I have also struggled with an ongoing relationship with a daughter with whom, so sadly, I share very little common interests or beliefs. I was recently reminded very firmly that I should be a more supportive grandmother & mother, rather than one with so many opinions. Maybe she is right. I told her “it is what it is”, with a sigh.
So, Lizzie-I offer my deepest sympathy. We do what can & many times it is not enough. But it is who we are.
fuck me.
this is exactly arse-about
mUnty here sounds exactly like Non Compis does on CL’s
fucking cult-members
pure logic fallacy
every fucking time, the premise is in the conclusion
you’re all broken in the head
Exactly M0nty. You do know how polluting and inefficient renewables/batteries is on a life cycle assessment (LCA) basis don’t you? Far worse than coal or nuclear.
The mess the Chinese make with their neodymium extraction, and their lithium processing, is legendary.
corollary: ‘green’ subsidies save the planet AND increase IQ
In a model, sure. We’re not working with models here, we’re working with reality.
Solar already has vastly superior scale to nuclear. In Australia in particular, it’s the difference between an acorn and an oak tree. Why would we go for nukes when solar is already scaled beyond anything nuclear could conceivably achieve in the next 30 years? Especially when 30 years is about when the 2050 targets for emissions come up.
You can faff on ad nauseam about how nukes work on paper, but you and I wipe our bums with paper.
As for your subsequent comment, I don’t want to rewrite microeconomics, but on reflection what I needed was for someone to convince me that learning how the system worked was the best way of attacking the system, of changing it so it made more sense. I can’t remember if anyone said that to me explicitly, they probably did and I was too young to get it. I didn’t grok the process of immersing yourself in an idea that you thought was wrong so that you could destroy it. I bet Keynes read Mises cover to cover even though he thought Mises was full of it.
Boing!
Which ones did you read cover to cover Monty?
I was amused to read recently that EVs are worse for climate change than petrol cars.
Again on LCA basis. Them externalities are so sucky aren’t they M0nty?
I do so like lefties. The Dunning-Kruger is strong with them.
Continued Use Of Combustion Vehicles Leads To ‘Much Lower’ Lifetime CO2 Emissions Than Driving EVs (23 May)
And that’s if you think CO2 is even dangerous, which it isn’t.
Solar already has vastly superior scale to nuclear.
Nukes actually work at night.
I’ve been in Coles this morning. Two observations: they’ve stopped asking “do you need baaags?” and they were playing Rocket Man by Elton John over the tannoy. Fifty year old music. Says a lot that they pretty much never play anything more recent than the nineties. The left have destroyed both music and shopping.
I keep a plastic tray in my boot so my polite answer to the formerly ineffable question was “no thanks”.
Why would we go for nukes when solar is already scaled beyond anything nuclear could conceivably achieve in the next 30 years?
go to the energy market aneroid right now
that’s why.
And suddenly black, Roger.
Around 2012 all the white folks disappeared and black people where everywhere. I wonder where they buried the bodies after they moved in and stole the white folks houses.
Maybe they ate them.
I reiterate…when solar arrays become dirty and lose function, who cleans them and how are they cleaned?
Usually in sunny, arid areas, is precious water used? How is it accessed? Does the set-up/maintenance cost, both in money and environmentally, outweigh any energy advantage?
Similarly wind turbines.
I think he means that it takes up more acreage.
M0nty should read up about cost efficiency scaling factors for capital equipment in Perry (see p25-68 in the 6th edn, which is the one I have). Things like nuclear plants scale at about 0.65 exponent, whereas solar PV scales nearer to 1.0 because solar panels are added incrementally whereas nuke plants scale with volume.
Which is when producer Brian True-May and actor John Nettles left the show.
Both had acknowlegded that nostalgia was a key to the show’s success.
dogmatic, nonsensical gibber
honestly, I can’t see the forest for the bullshit
perhaps it will be clearer when the sun’s out
The Ewe-Lotting is running strong this morning.
Ah, nostalgia.
It ain’t what it used to be.
Kiwi’s idea of sorting out the good looking ones from Ewe lot.
I hope our grandchildren don’t look back at the world today nostalgically.
FFS Lizzie, you sound like Amber Heard on a bender. Drama, Me! Me! Me!
Or are you just ready for your close-up. Yet again.
Save the theatrics for little home shows with your mendicant relatives as audiences.
BTW, are you still dropping off supplies to those in less fortunate postcodes?
Mr DeMille I’m ready for my close up
It’s hilarious having the chin dribbling spastic m0nty back. The fat arse clown can’t keep away.
Its a worry that he actually believes the bullshit that dribbles from his mouth. Funny though.
Where’s IT, ffs? He wouldn’t tolerate his shite.
No-one can even remember how it started.
But it shows no sign of stopping anytime soon.
He was only 17 at the time so knew everything he needed to know for the rest of his life. If stupid was a force you’d be a Jedi Knight.
The difficulty is that there is no viable alternative candidate.
Much good to be said for Rees-Mogg
Frank says:
June 7, 2022 at 9:59 am
Status Quo were tight because they didn’t deviate a millimetre from the redneck boogie formula. The first formula that everyone learns.
Scuttles off…
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Right, so that why everyone didn’t do it and become successful and rich.
Scuttle indeed. Slither is more appropriate.
correct link:
lotocoti says:
June 7, 2022 at 9:51 am
No idea why they’d think that III.
Mark Steyn!
It’s hilarious having the chin dribbling spastic m0nty back. The fat arse clown can’t keep away.
Rake Addiction.
It’s a serious problem, if this forum ever goes down Bunnings will need to put security on the gardening tools aisle.
m0ntysays:
June 7, 2022 at 10:07 am
…learning how the system worked was the best way of attacking the system, of changing it so it made more sense. I can’t remember if anyone said that to me explicitly, they probably did and I was too young to get it. I didn’t grok the process of immersing yourself in an idea that you thought was wrong so that you could destroy it.
Behold the archetypal middle class pinko.
Learning about an idea, or how a system works, should be a precursor to deciding whether it’s a good thing to attack and destroy it.
Unless you’re a megalomaniac who thinks that you’re capable of making such a judgment without having that learning.
Doverlord is going to be sneaking a new OT on us at some time today, isn’t he?
Ah, but it only makes business sense if you omit the externalities of the pollution.
A well tuned coal fired power plant produces almost exclusively CO2.
Remind me again what plants use for photosynthesis?
Family of Clinton Advisor Found Hanging From Tree with Shotgun Blast to Chest Blocks Release of Files Detailing Grisly Death Scene
P, it appears he committed Arkancide.
Mr. Middleton was found hanging from a tree with a shotgun blast to his chest and an extension cord wrapped around his neck 30 miles from his Arkansas ranch.
m0nty-fa
Ah, but it only makes business sense if you omit the externalities of the pollution.
Do you mean like child slavery in the Congo, digging up mcobalt, and vast lakes of pollution in Chynerr, where the cobalt and other raw materials of ruinables, such as rare earths, are processed? Or is that a case of “Out of sight, out of mind”? And don’t forget that vast swathes of vegetation cut down for solar and wind farms, and the long transmission lines to connect them to the main grid.
It’s the oldest trick in the book for capitalism. Create a market based on a common good, ignore externalities caused by production, and claim the profits. The owners win, everyone else loses.
Like those scammers making billions, collecting subsidies on power “too cheap to meter”?
We’re a bit smarter than that now.
Some of us are, you are NOT.
Umm err …
That sounds like extreme right wing white science stuff that can be safely ignored.
m0nty-fa
Solar already has vastly superior scale to nuclear. In Australia in particular, it’s the difference between an acorn and an oak tree. Why would we go for nukes when solar is already scaled beyond anything nuclear could conceivably achieve in the next 30 years? Especially when 30 years is about when the 2050 targets for emissions come up.
Whatever you are smoking, make sure the police do not catch you with it.
And another thing…
What the hell is going on at the Australian Passport Office? The usually glacial pace has now reached Third World slowness.
Didn’t the numbats realise that, as soon as the borders opened up, people would be renewing their travel documents? Why didn’t they put on additional staff to cover the rush? Or are they all at inclusivity training?
For a special fee you can expedite the process.
Just don’t call it a bribe.
Even the “extra fee” doesn’t cut it.
We’re gonna need a bigger bribe.
No. Not their job to think ahead.
Slomo made sure they never missed a payday during lockdown, that’s all that matters (that & immediately voting against him)
Hmm, let’s see…
Yes, there are hidden carbon footprints in renewables. However, they are vastly outweighed by the hidden and non-hidden carbon footprints of fossil fuel sources.
What other talking points do you have Bruce, because that one is a dud.
Arkancide is quite contagious, which is probably why the family are keen to not release any info.
Interesting timing in conjunction with Elon’s tweet.
It’s extraordinary, isn’t it?
Australians now have to pay extra for a service to be delivered in a reasonable time frame.
I agree. So are perfect children.
No such thing.
SMH
Negative commentary on the appointment of Tanya Plibersek as environment minister baffles me. It is obvious that the outcome of this election was tied to the many environmental issues. I cannot think of a more experienced, skilled, competent and likeable person to take on this responsibility than Ms Plibersek. A great call by the PM, I suggest.
Tony Weathwood, Kiama Downs
So clever she didn’t know the level of CO2 in the atmosphere.
I reckon this is one of our best weapons. If the vast majority of citizens began consistently identifying as indigenous the resulting shit storm would clag up the system for so long, they would never get the separatist legislation off the ground.
ha ha Dopey- I thought that was a spoof at first!! More vomit making fare from the Sydney Morning Vomit.
I’m pretty sure he likes to keep us all guessing.
Speaking of endangered species, spare a thought for Hunter’s 3 year old kid.
EXCLUSIVE: Callous Joe Biden REFUSES to provide security for Hunter’s mini-me lovechild Navy despite being ‘made aware’ his three-year-old granddaughter and her mon Lunden Roberts were threatened by angry cage fighter ex (Daily Mail megaheadline, 6 Jun, via Lucianne)
Sounds like Joe and Hunter want the poor kid to go away. And from the story it horribly sounds she just might. Don’t you just love Democrats’ love for their children? Such caring people lefties are.
Oops, forgot the Daily Mail link.
Of course. They are my family. What else would you expect?
And you? Still a bitch? Yes, of course you are.
Leave it off Joh and all of the other de Mille nonsense.
Fill us in on more motel life. That is actually quite interesting.
And we have to replace at great cost and CO2 ‘expenditure’ all of those rusty windmills.
m0nty-fa
Building solar, wind or nuclear plants creates an insignificant carbon footprint compared with savings from avoiding fossil fuels, a new study suggests.
The research, published in Nature Energy, measures the full lifecycle greenhouse gas emissions of a range of sources of electricity out to 2050. It shows that the carbon footprint of solar, wind and nuclear power are many times lower than coal or gas with carbon capture and storage (CCS). This remains true after accounting for emissions during manufacture, construction and fuel supply.
Good to see you onboard with nuclear, m0nty-fa.
M0nty, this only matters if you actually care about ‘carbon footprints’.
I don’t. Can’t see the CO2 hypothesis delivering much from the ‘modelling’ yet.
Certainly the empirical evidence for it is looking very weak.
Except when it isn’t because it is overhyped, made up, and simply gaslighting.
Again, that’s theory, not reality.
In reality where we all live, solar has achieved vastly greater scale than nuclear and has a lot more scope for scale efficiencies in the future. Nuclear is starting way behind on the scale issue, and continues to fall further behind. Thanks Uncle Xi!
Of course you don’t, Lizzie. Why would you? You’re having a lovely life.
It’s so damn cold we are exploring the possibility of getting that Cook Islands paid up 2020 week sometime in this June/July. Going at this time would mean we would still have to do Jacinta’s regime of testing, which was gloriously non-needed for anything in the UK, including getting in and out of it.
But worth it just to get away again?
Lizzie
And we have to replace at great cost and CO2 ‘expenditure’ all of those rusty windmills.
Most of the installations were in the last 10 to 15 years. With a likely useful life of under 20 years, we will be on the second replacement for them by 2050.
Not sure if that was included in the Nature Energy “study”.
Global warming latest.
‘A fantastic start to the season’: Perisher set for more snow in next 24h (Sky News, 7 Jun)
Children just aren’t going to know what snow is.
m0nty-fa
In reality where we all live, solar has achieved vastly greater scale than nuclear and has a lot more scope for scale efficiencies in the future. Nuclear is starting way behind on the scale issue, and continues to fall further behind. Thanks Uncle Xi!
Your dream “reality” might not match the actuial reality.
And go away and count the number of coal fired generators that “Uncle Xï” is building. I’m not sure he shares your opinion (which is all it is) on solar and wind.
And you keep avoiding the issue of nights and cloudy days.
BTW, how are you going with setting up your house as a pure example of solar/batteries, and cutting yourself off from the grid? About the same as Malmo?
And you, and the Teal who has stolen this electorate, care not a fig for the huge increases in electricity bills (for an unevidenced peccadilo that the world is accepting without real question) that I am currently paying for two of my rather indigent sons who would have no heat otherwise*.
They are poor (one is autistic, the other bipolar, but neither are on the NDIS, so they have very limited incomes). The people around them are really feeling the pinch without any family to help them – thanks Teals, thanks M0nty. Your green religion keeps you warm these cold nights – oh, I forgot. You can afford to use your heaters.
So caring of you.
* sorry for the ‘pity party’ Joh, but some things do need to be said.
Boris scored 211 – 148 (59% support).
Turncoat Theresa’s vote in 2019 was 200 – 117 (63% support).
He is Gonski.
The party can’t vote against him for twelve months.
But the Parliament can.
If 150 Torries vote with Labour and others, he’s fucked. I am not saying rebel Torries will propose a no confidence motion on the floor, but Boris wouldn’t want to call their bluff.
My betting is he will be shown a sheet of paper with 180 signatures on it before Christmas and he will fall on his sword.
Not having a crack at Vicki’s above comment from 9.59. In general terms, however, I will assert that you cannot bemoan how schools and broader society are creating dunderhead children in thrall to the WEF and various lizard people unless parents have those conversations with said kids.
Because kids will ask parents questions about things they are increasingly exposed to in the wider world. All sorts of questions, and about everything.
Not one of the multitude of teenagers I know actually believe the shit thrown their way at schools. As an example – sure, they’ll get a day off to go to a ‘climate change’ rally because it’s a day away from school, and also because children are highly experienced scammers.
If parents are feeding children information that global warming will kill us all, and that drag queens telling kids in libraries about the joys of rimming is A-OK, then there’s only one conclusion that can be drawn.
And that is – the parents are the problem.
Lizzie, the Greens and Teals haven’t been running the country for the past decade, your mob have. Sorry to hear your kids aren’t on the NDIS… yeah, your mob really stuffed that one up as well, didn’t they.
If you can afford regular holidays, sounds like you’re not doing so bad yourself.
Words fail me..
Haha, M0nty is a Xiphile.
M0nty, those project financial analysis tools are what are used in chemical engineering. And have been so since the subject was invented. Vast amounts of industrial capacity of stuff have been financially justified and built using them. It is reality. The square-cube laws aren’t subject to ideology son.
I’m sure there’s a Mandarin language version of Perry that is very popular in China. The Chinese are not fools and are very good at engineering. Not great at new discoveries though, but that’s more science than engineering.
Boris Johnson was busy trying to tax suppliers and subsidise the poor so hard hit by his policies; but soon they will find out that this is just the beginning of the raw end of the pineapple being applied so carelessly to the poor, old and destitude, as well as knocking off the aspirational dreams of middle class families in Britain.
Albo and ‘climate’ voters deserve all that is coming to them for this Teal nonsense.
I predict that by next year coal may well be on the agenda again just as gas certainly will be.
It will be ‘temporary’ of course. Because climate.
Also hang onto your wallets, because Albo will want to pay the poor off till his next election.
We’re beyond Blair’s Law into a strange place where 40,000 years of abject human misery can solve a problem which doesn’t exist.
Munster is a parent.
There’s no pollution Monty, just some water vapour & CO2, the latter of which is beneficial to the environment.
I am pleased about the Barilaro decision, I hope he gets the actual money.
Just watching (on replay) Tucker Carlson interviewing Kyle Rittenhouse about his plans to begin action against Facebook, and defamation action against news organisations.
Modern life is a lawyers dreamworld, isn’t it !
correct – so maybe you could give us an estimate of the costs of coal-fired power pollution.
Specifically, the CO2 one which is currently driving the shutdowns.
mUnty, please explain the connection between carbon and the end of the world.
say… arent you made of carbon?
like, when you croak, do you reckon that will be a net +ve or -ve for the environment?
makes you wonder if in the future will we even need j’ismists
Sure Bruce, not arguing with you on your turf. Models are fine, but if you input the current situation to the models you will find that the outcome for solar is much more likely to outcompete nuclear, even if we were to suddenly change course and endorse nukes here. Solar has so much momentum behind it globally, the efficiency and cost advantages it already has are only going to widen.
The key point here is that nukes are always a distraction, because they will never happen in this country so anyone bringing them up is just trying to gum the works to preserve the status quo. It’s a cynical fossil fuel industry talking point, in other words. Dutton is running with it precisely because he has zero power at the moment. You lot are the only ones listening seriously to him.
We have worked hard for our assets, paid a shitload of taxes, and of late have sold up properties to entirely self-fund a very comfortable retirement with plenty of Business Class o/s travel (and very glad I am at nearly 80 to have a lie-down bed on a 16 hour flight). Plus plentiful super. And some other investments. Just like millions of other self-funded retirees. Yes, we are well off. It’s not a capital crime, nor criminal in any way actually.
My two boys from my first marriage have resisted going on the NDIS and I have supported that. It is poorly conceived and over-burdened already and requires paperwork that they don’t have and won’t get. They try for a bit of casual work here and there but don’t get much; they also both have serious physical injuries sustained over years of a drug taking lifestyle. There are many thousands of poor white males in their boat too. Last on anybody’s list for helping. Except their families.
I see such a lot of it. *
* it’sjust a pity party though, isn’t it?
the Malthusian Dilemma
breeders -> consumers – > carbons -> ?
mUnty v The Volcano
not so much model as a hope right?
this guy’s a fucking moron
When those who lecture me change their own ways, I will consider changing mine.
maybe for 6 hours of the day.. what about the other 18?
Sorry to hear that they suffered the illness of drug abuse as well as their other problems. They’re in a tough spot.
On the bright side, I hear McDonald’s is running a thing where they give you a five-minute interview and sign you up on the spot. Perhaps your lads should wander in?
Which came first?
New evidence about when, where, and how chickens were domesticated (Phys.org, 6 Jun)
There you go, Thai chicken-and-rice is an archaeologically important dish.
I predict it will be back on the agenda today by calling for coal powered stations to power up. But who will pay to get them fixed? The government will be forced to make some concessions or discounts. It will be a merry dance avoiding mentioning the unreliability of renewables and the fact that RE is undercutting the viability of coal. The problem is not going to go away and no amount of spin will paper over it. Adding more RE will just exacerbate the problem.
Just brilliant.
Which reminds me, New OT at 1pm.
Yes, M0nts, I do. I have a husband who loves me dearly, ten years younger and a very wise man, so why wouldn’t I do my best to enjoy our years left together? I have other responsibilities too, four kids and six grandkids always entail those, no matter what. Only two of the kids and four of the grandkids are actually his, so his tolerance of my other responsibilites is considerable.
I hope you are having a lovely life too, M0nty. You have a young family to feed, educate and house, a wife to love you and a business to manage. You are in what Hairy once called ‘the best of years’. Enjoy.
Take care your warmist religion doesn’t make things go belly up for them.
Righto. Lunch time. 😉
And, on travel, if you can’t go overseas try a trip through the guts of Australia. It is as green as…a beautiful and uplifting sight.
The Beloved has started working on itineraries for our “Big Lap”, scheduled for 2024, God willing. I will hopefully see the WA wildflowers, something I have always wanted to do.
Haha, M0nty you do know that process modelling is one of my areas? And financial modelling is another? I use Metsim, SysCad and Ideas, also HSC Chemistry for thermodynamics and Statistica for stat models. And mainly Excel for the NPV/DCF financial models.
I have seen GIGO so many times in my working life it isn’t funny. In billion buck projects too. The financial basis for renewables is GIGO on steroids. All because of not getting the terms of reference correct: that continuous 24hr/7 day electricity is the essential and indispensable output.
Spectacular.
I wonder if it is deliberate – to get the answer required. I don’t believe in the good faith and disinterest of scientists and their handlers any more. Too much income derives from getting the desired result.
Re chickens, the cottage we stayed at in Eyam, the plague village in Derbyshire Peak country, had six wonderful speckled hens wandering around down the side of it, providing an entertaining view of their daily life as the side was somewhat raised near the window sill due to the age of the building. Big fat brown speckled hens are just beautiful, and they produce tasty brown unspeckled eggs which we were given. I made a terrific omelet from five of them, but sadly the power blew when on the stove when I turned on the electric kettle so we had to have the omelet rather ‘French’, i.e. a little runny in the middle.
Do they have salmonella, these free range chickens, I did wonder, but we ate up nevertheless and all was well.
I always miss out on the new thread…I’m hanging around for a shot at podium. 😀
That is straight from his air-head Greenie missus.
That is why I reckon he will be gone well before Christmas. He will not be able to resist the next brain-fart she emits.
The party room vote has put him on notice, but he is too thick to see it.
There must be public money involved.
My grandson did that M0nty, and he’s doing so well now. Moved on to study and a good part-time job elsewhere now. I am a big fan of Makkas for young kids who need discipline and training.
Not suitable for older men (my ‘boys now) with physical disabilities and learned leftist antagonisms that wouldn’t sustain a job with travel and turn-up times. They know too that they wouldn’t be in the race for employment there vs the lower paid wages for yoof. Their father was a lefty, btw. Like you.
That is your opinion, Bruce. Models are human opinions, ultimately, based on assumptions which may or may not adhere to reality. They possess no magical quality.
Yes, the case for solar in a post-coal world involves battery tech that hasn’t quite been invented yet. However, coal and gas CCS models have also operated on a LCA basis this way for yonks without much in the way of delivery on CCS tech. I would plonk my money down on batteries over fossil fuels CCS at this point, given that CCS keeps on coming up snake eyes and batteries have a lot of dice rolls in hand. China certainly has.
Latest Telstra scam. POSITION VACANT! Someone who can write English:
Dear Customer,
We are sending you this email to inform you that we are unable to process the payment of the last owing bill.
To fix that problem, You need to update your credit card in your account.
Please keep the window ( SMS OTP CODE ) open on your browser if the Code is slow to be received.
Carrie Antoinette. Let them put on a jumper and eat cake.
As she switches on the heater and calls in a gourmet feast.
This employee probably has an Australian degree.
Glad to see you looking so realistically at climate models, M0nty.
Next you might begin to see, why most Covid models, they are no bloody good.
After a decade and a half of haranguing the owners of coal-fired power stations to shut ’em down – not to mention putting in place all sorts of disincentives to make these power plants economically unviable and resulting in their operators drastically cutting back maintenance costs in anticipation of their decommissioning – how does the government plan to solve the ‘energy crisis’ gripping the east coast?
Crikey. Better get yourself checked for whiplash, Mads. She’s not done yet, however:
Wow. That is some chutzpah right there. It has been bipartisan government policy since Rudd (actually, it may well have started under Howard) to do whatever possible to ensure these power stations deteriorate to the point they become too expensive to repair. I’m not especially sympathetic towards the operators of these plants, but expecting they’re able to flick a switch and, just like that, their decrepit, poorly maintained coal-fired generators will start pumping out the power again, is just magical thinking.
Madeleine also has complaints about things some nasty men said about her:
This is how you’re going to deal with opposition barbs, Mads? You’re going to play the sexism card? Seriously?? lol
You were in opposition for a while. You should know what the job of the opposition is. They are going to say everything you do is bad, you’re incompetent, if they were in government, they’d do so much better etc etc. I know it’s shocking, but you are not exempt from this because you’re now a government minister and you’re fair game. They don’t care that you’re a woman. I know, they’re a bunch of misogynists who don’t think a woman is tough enough to handle the job. You sure proved them wrong by telling them how much they offended you. My goodness.
m0nty-fa
but if you input the current situation to the models you will find that the outcome for solar is much more likely to outcompete nuclear, even if we were to suddenly change course and endorse nukes here. Solar has so much momentum behind it globally, the efficiency and cost advantages it already has are only going to widen.
Yet again, you ignore the availability and reliability factors. How does solar provide supply at night or on cloudy days? Before you say “batteries”, do some calculations (or models, if you prefer) on the quantity and cost of the batteries required to keep Australia going over a modest period of three days, with clouds and low wind.
And don’t be like your fellow idiot over at CL’s, who blandly states that there is no need for base load power. There is a base level of continuous, reliable, power needed to keep a modern civilisation going. Without it, such minor amenities as hospitals cease to function
A week in the job & she’s already feeling fragile. Perhaps Littleproud has a point?
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says: June 7, 2022 at 1:06 pm
Can confirm.
I’ve employed people with an Australian degree whose written English is of a similar standard.
I’ve employed a degree qualified Accountant (Deakin University) whose ability with basic arithmetic was as a numeric equivalent far worse than the written English in Top Ender’s copy/paste.
You will never convince a ‘greenie’ that renewables are not the answer. For a ‘greenie’ the sun is always shining or the wind is always blowing somewhere in the world.
Oh-My-God!
The words “David Littleproud” and “old-style Nationals” in the same sentence.
He’ll be quite offended by that.
Lizzie – Chickens are intelligent critters. I was out walking on normal route last week and was waylaid by some of the Cafe noisy miners a couple hundred metres up the street. They received bread bits. A nice brown hen saw me handing tiny pieces of bread to small grey birds and correctly reasoned that food was on offer, despite never having been anywhere near me ever before. She came over expectantly, so I handed her a bit of bread, which she accepted. Very few birds can make that mental leap. Cockatoos and grey butcherbirds are the only species I’ve known to do it, but admittedly chickens have had a few thousand years of genetic preparation.
The four chooks are allowed out during the day from a house a street over from mine, and genially wander around foraging.
In terms of reputation, critics are way below used car salesmen and politicians, and much closer to pedophiles, gang rapists and cannibals.
The only solution to externalities such as pollution is a consumption tax to account for it. Oh, look, we already have one. It’s called the GST.
It’s the only solution that could possibly work as it’s the only one that can EQUITABLY tax Chinese pollution. Any other solution relies on dodgy Chinese data.
You can change an equal amount to 15% and 5% to make changes net zero according to pollution involved in its production and provision, and sneakily tilt it towards Chinese goods without expressly doing so, ensuring plausible deniability.
Better still, no one on the left can plausibly reject it, and the only people worse off would be rich socialists and Teals. Let the old adage “be careful what you wish for” come true for them.
After all, it’s the kind of guy I am. No need to thank me.
Monty,
This is the rub. You are claiming, without any empirical evidence, that CO2 is a pollutant.
Have a quick squiz at this chart (Fig 4) and tell me the earth will become some hellish wasteland if our (lost in the noise of natural fluctuations) emissions keep rising.
I don’t think you truly believe this crap and are only here to troll.
Or perhaps you would’ve been one of those “high priests” of Aztec fame, ripping the beating hearts from other humans in order to “please” your non existent god.
It shows that the carbon footprint of solar, wind and nuclear power are many times lower than coal or gas with carbon capture and storage (CCS). This remains true after accounting for emissions during manufacture, construction and fuel supply.
Alarmists and the end of the world catastrophists of climate are 3 types: grifters for money and power which includes the renewable shonks, z grade academics and the commies; the nutters who genuinely believe the world is doomed which also includes misanthropes and the virtue signalling cognitive dissonant elites who think their lifestyle will be preserved when their great cause which reflects their superiority comes into effect.
“To be honest, it is the coal companies themselves and the operators of the power stations that need to get these power stations back online,” she said.
Wow. That is some chutzpah right there.
Sure is.
Step 1 – make a taxpayer funded gift to your competitors of 40 or 50 % of the capital cost of their project.
Step 2 – make all customers for the product buy “certificates” that only your competitors can issue.
Step 3 – blame you for going out of business.
“That is straight from his air-head Greenie missus.
That is why I reckon he will be gone well before Christmas. He will not be able to resist the next brain-fart she emits.
The party room vote has put him on notice, but he is too thick to see it.”
Yep, his Green missus has been and will continue to be his undoing….but I also think Johnson is a weak and shallow man.
2001- terrorism is actually a new thing called “al-Qaeda”, and rampant control and surveillance of everyone is a good thing
2020- the sniffles is actually a new thing called “COVID”, and rampant control and surveillance of everyone is actually a good thing
2022- organized crime is actually a new thing called “n’Dragheta”, and rampant control and surveillance of everyone is actually a good thing.
Involves spyware on mobile phones.
Good wash-job for Andrews’ surveillance sweep.
Are you paying attention yet?
Well stage 3 of The Telstra Wars.
Having persistent email problems: 1) an email from months back has duplicated itself thousands of times and is sitting on their server, and 2) can only remove about 30 emails manually at a time from their server.
Nothing seems to be able to fix the two problems, and unless I go and do (2) every few weeks it starts bouncing emails.
Stage 1 was talking to their people in faraway lands who go through scripts. None of them actually know anything about computers.
Stage 2 was go into a shop; get them to write it all down, and register a complaint. And say fix it or we go elsewhere. And I want big discounts anyway as they are wasting my time.
Stage 3 is actually talking to a technician in Oz. She laughed a lot at some of their responses in the Notes, and has tried a few intelligent solutions. Still no joy.
What a way to run a company.