Open Thread – Tues 14 June 2022


Moonlit Night on the Crimea, Ivan Aivazovski, 1839

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miltonf
miltonf
June 17, 2022 10:28 am

Anal is similar to turdle- just ten years ahead and a ‘job’ in Uren’s office instead of the council. Both side of the unipardy are similar (minus the union sinecures for the lieborals). At least Uren did experience real hardship and actually had a real job for a while iirc.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 17, 2022 10:29 am

Sad but not uncommon story Ranga.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 10:29 am

Labor Prime Minister summed up in 8 Min 01 Secs by Chris kenny

Kenny was suprisingly good last night.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 10:30 am

Turtle Head’s rising star has faded.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 17, 2022 10:30 am

JCsays:

June 17, 2022 at 10:09 am

NFA

I just saw your comment. Don’t blame me US stocks are going down. Blame the fucking idiot in the White House and the other Rats. 

And Bird.
With his multiple trading accounts.

miltonf
miltonf
June 17, 2022 10:31 am

Uren to Anal- cream of the working class to dregs of the middle class

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 17, 2022 10:33 am

Zippy that fleet of drones only need to have binary explosives which can be very small to wipe out the radar guidance systems and the ship is blind. They could be passively drawn to the guidance systems therefore not emitting a signal for countermeasures.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 10:33 am

Anal is similar to turdle- just ten years ahead and a ‘job’ in Uren’s office instead of the council. Both side of the unipardy are similar (minus the union sinecures for the lieborals). At least Uren did experience real hardship and actually had a real job for a while iirc.

Suggests both lack the smarts to stack the branches.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 17, 2022 10:33 am

the rain doesn’t always fall either, but we manage to store the water – we can store the renewable energy if we have the investment

This will age as well as “There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead”.

Zipster
June 17, 2022 10:33 am

In June, Shanghai conducts citywide nucleic acid tests and 5 districts are once again under lockdown
t’s mid-June and Shanghai hasn’t yet seen the expected full lifting of the lockdown and resumption of production and work. The outbreak is still spreading and it seems more likely that the lockdown might be reintroduced.
Authorities in Shanghai acknowledge that the outbreak has spread in 13 of the city’s 16 administrative districts. Currently, people in 15 of Shanghai’s 16 districts are being asked to take the nuclei acid test and residents in 5 districts aren’t allowed to leave their homes.
Many supermarkets in Shanghai were crowded with people, especially in the vegetable and meat sections, and there were scenes of frantic buying.” Don’t be afraid of stocking too much, but fear for not having enough” has become a guideline for stockpiling by some people.

miltonf
miltonf
June 17, 2022 10:36 am

The stupidity of the eloi is breathtaking.

Cassie of Sydney
June 17, 2022 10:38 am

“Kenny was suprisingly good last night.”

I think Chris Kenny is consistently good on most issues. He falls down on the “voice” but nobody’s perfect. I’ll take Kenny any day over Blot.

Zipster
June 17, 2022 10:40 am

Satellite images hint Iran preparing for rocket launch | WION
Following the stalled Iran nuclear talks, the IAEA reprimanded Iran for its failure to explain traces of uranium found at undeclared sites and Iran turning off 27 surveillance cameras from nuclear sites across the country. Satellite images have now shown Iran reportedly making preparations for a space rocket launch

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 10:46 am

I think Chris Kenny is consistently good on most issues. He falls down on the “voice” but nobody’s perfect. I’ll take Kenny any day over Blot.

His columns in the Weekend Paywallian are usually on the money. Hindmarsh Island in Mainland Tasmania is one of the few victories along the way.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 10:49 am

Following the stalled Iran nuclear talks, the IAEA reprimanded Iran for its failure to explain traces of uranium found at undeclared sites and Iran turning off 27 surveillance cameras from nuclear sites across the country. Satellite images have now shown Iran reportedly making preparations for a space rocket launch

Where’s Jane Bond when we need her?

miltonf
miltonf
June 17, 2022 10:51 am

Latho nails it again…

NSW Labor MPs voted 85 times for Matt Kean’s reckless plan to drive coal out of the electricity market.
That’s how we got to this point.
The coal plants are closing so companies don’t do maintenance on them. Their units break down.
It’s obvious

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 10:52 am

I think Chris Kenny is consistently good on most issues. He falls down on the “voice” but nobody’s perfect. I’ll take Kenny any day over Blot.

I generally don’t watch either but I was on YouTube last night when his piece appeared in the feed.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 10:56 am

NSW Labor MPs voted 85 times for Matt Kean’s reckless plan to drive coal out of the electricity market.

To what end?

There are 350+ new coal generators being built in the world today.

Zipster
June 17, 2022 10:59 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
June 17, 2022 11:02 am

GreyRanga, sadly these families exist, and you wonder why. I know of one where:

– dad, a serious alcoholic, died young. Apparently an excellent maths teacher
– the four kids and mum returned to Scotland from Oz
– son 1 became a heroin addict and died from an overdose
– son 2 became a heroin addict; got out of it, and is apparently now a worker in a drug clinic
– daughter 3 became a light druggie and returned to Oz for a lifetime on the dole
– son 4 became a heroin addict and died from an overdose
– mum was in Oz for a long time on the left over family money doing nothing much; now back in Scotland

What a shambles. And all through “poor choices” unless you are one of those who say society done them wrong.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 17, 2022 11:02 am

They could be passively drawn to the guidance systems therefore not emitting a signal for countermeasures.

This tech already exists for anti-radiation missiles used in SEAD/DEAD air taskings.

Applying it to an anti-shipping missile or drone system would not be impossible, depending on its size and mission profile.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 17, 2022 11:04 am

43% emissions reduction by 2030?
Easy-peasy when you consider all the jabbed will be dead in 10 to 40 months from now.

I thought it was 9 to 39 months now?

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 11:05 am

Mutatis mutandis, the political relationship between Perrottet and Kean reminds me of Palaszczuk & Trad. But there’s no union heavies involved to tap Dom on the shoulder and say Kean has to go.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 17, 2022 11:17 am

callisays:
June 17, 2022 at 9:22 am
What is it with lunatics and paper product shortages?

Apparently there’s panic buying of facial tissues now. Aldi was swept bare and I wondered why.

Same in our local Wu Lee’s on Wednesday.

Dot
Dot
June 17, 2022 11:17 am

One of his tutors was the future Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis.

LOL

Glad I never went there.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 17, 2022 11:19 am

Rex Angersays:

June 17, 2022 at 11:04 am

43% emissions reduction by 2030?
Easy-peasy when you consider all the jabbed will be dead in 10 to 40 months from now.

I thought it was 9 to 39 months now?

I know.
But I am a DeNIaliSt.

Dot
Dot
June 17, 2022 11:20 am

Where’s Jane Bond when we need her?

Ease up, she was a Captain (& DSO) in the Queen’s Land Forces at 17, I’d like to see you get anywhere near that, you misogynist!

Also the top sniper and fighter pilot to come out of the Special Boat Services.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 17, 2022 11:22 am

Philip Lowe studied under Krugman.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 17, 2022 11:27 am

Neil Mitchell 3aw has decided to grow a set and declared Dan Andrews will possibly go down as the worst premier in Victorian history.
Joan Kirner has been headed on the socialist table of unworthiness. Joan was incompetent but she wasn’t a vindictive troll as well.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2022 11:29 am

I would say that whilst poorly executed, Korea and Vietnam were justified. Particularly now when you can readily read about the conflicts from the USSR’s perspective.

What’s been written, in the past twenty years, with access to the North Vietnamese archives, bears that out. The latest is that the South Vietnamese forces of the despised No Dinh Diem came far closer to crushing the Viet Cong then they were ever given credit for, and the North Vietnamese couldn’t believe their luck when the Americans went along with the coup that overthrew him..

Diogenes
Diogenes
June 17, 2022 11:30 am

Apparently there’s panic buying of facial tissues now. Aldi was swept bare and I wondered why.

I don’t know if it panic buying. I went through 2 boxes last week and this because of this godforsaken cold I just can’t shake – 5 weeks and counting

Zipster
June 17, 2022 11:31 am

Also the top sniper and fighter pilot to come out of the Special Boat Services.

not to mention a black belt in Portulacaria bonsai and an undefeated macrame champion

m0nty
m0nty
June 17, 2022 11:31 am

Eric Abetz demoted to third on the LNP ticket and gets booted. Good.

I see he’s having a massive sook about it. Even better.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 11:32 am

Neil Mitchell 3aw has decided to grow a set and declared Dan Andrews will possibly go down as the worst premier in Victorian history.

The question – to be decided 26 November – is how masochistic is the Victorian electorate?

Zipster
June 17, 2022 11:34 am

Australia’s reliance on China | John Lee #clip
John Anderson

John Lee explains that Australia should respond to Chinese tension by investing in defence, especially in equipment that can be manufactured quickly. Lee also comments on our reliance on China, challenging our businesses to broaden our export base.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 11:36 am

Eric Abetz demoted to third on the LNP ticket and gets booted. Good.

I see he’s having a massive sook about it. Even better.

That you’re delighting in his demise is testimony to his effectiveness.

Speedbox
June 17, 2022 11:40 am

OldOzzie says:
June 17, 2022 at 10:10 am
Northern Beaches Council. Young people have “had their say”.
Jess, 17, said that “There is no denying that our generation faces, and will continue to face, more exposure to world events than any other generation has before.

Jeezus. “There is no denying that our generation faces……more exposure to world events than any other generation has before”. Seriously? What a bizarre comment. Displays a singular lack of awareness of even the last 80 years. Is this really the standard of the upcoming generation. Me, me, me……it’s all about meeeee.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 17, 2022 11:41 am

The super sleuths over at The Conversation have identified the person responsible for the energy shortage in the east of the continent.

You can thank Margaret Thatcher for the gas supply crunch Australia’s east coast has been plunged into.

Well, I didn’t see that one coming. Who knew someone who never held a leadership position in Australia and has been dead for the best part of a decade could be such an influential person?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 17, 2022 11:44 am

m0ntysays:
June 17, 2022 at 11:31 am
Eric Abetz demoted to third on the LNP ticket and gets booted. Good.

I see he’s having a massive sook about it. Even better.

m0nty-fa again displays the hatred inherent in leftism. He is doing well over the last couple of days, having also covered envy in that period.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
June 17, 2022 11:45 am

Neil Mitchell 3aw has decided to grow a set and declared Dan Andrews will possibly go down as the worst premier in Victorian history.

Unwise. You know what happens to heretics, Neil.

calli
calli
June 17, 2022 11:46 am

Thatcher is the Keyser Soze of the grid.

Not at all dead, but stealthily assassinating the unicorns before they fart green energy.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 11:48 am

You can thank Margaret Thatcher for the gas supply crunch Australia’s east coast has been plunged into.

Surely they meant Julia Gillard, whose government rejected a domestic gas preservation policy?

miltonf
miltonf
June 17, 2022 11:51 am

Problem is there’s no opposition in Vicco. Just look what the so called opposition did to Bernie Finn.

Agree though that Andrews is the worst. There was one called Bent who was supposed to be pretty awful.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 11:54 am

Surely they meant Julia Gillard, whose government rejected a domestic gas preservation policy?

Meanwhile, half of Elbow’s Cabinet were in on that decision.

I wonder if we’ll hear any mea culpas from them?

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 17, 2022 11:57 am

As the cook in the house, I also do the food shopping. It has been thus for many years.
Just went to buy fresh veggies at my usual fruit and veg shop, probably the cheapest in our city, where I have shopped for years and …
Broccoli. $14 / kg
Green beans. $20 / kg
Snow peas. $30 / kg

God how I hate politicians!

P
P
June 17, 2022 11:59 am
Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 12:00 pm

Green beans. $20 / kg

Bargain!

Someone here yesterday cited $36/kg

Dot
Dot
June 17, 2022 12:02 pm

FACHA! FACHA! REEEE!

These retards are dangerous idiots.

Margaret Thatcher was lukewarm as a right winger, she didn’t end the welfare state and begat climate policies )she was pro nuclear).

Dot
Dot
June 17, 2022 12:04 pm

((( ( )))

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 17, 2022 12:06 pm

Who is Tasmania’s likely new senator, Tammy Tyrrell

I was wondering if she’s linked to the Tyrrell Corporation and can pass the Voight-Kampff test, which, by a fairly long cultural train is related to Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick. We should ask Ms Lambie what she thinks about electric sheep.

/sf geekdom

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 17, 2022 12:06 pm

Interesting factoid.
Mrs P just bought a carton of eggs.
It says on the pack “90 hens per hectare”.
OK.
What does that mean?
If the average suburban block is now 500 sq mtrs that is 20 blocks to the hectare.
If each house in an estate houses 4 people, that is 80 people per hectare.
Humans just ahead of chooks.

sfw
sfw
June 17, 2022 12:08 pm

Roger, a lot depends on whether the useless Libs will realise that Labor has a good chance in Vic because the Libs have crapped and are continuing to crap on their base. The Libs won’t of course, they are essentially the same people as Labor and want the admiration of the Labor luvvies. Andrews himself maybe gone before the election or shortly afterwards but either way we will have Labor or Labor Lite in control. The UAP said that they are looking to run in every seat in the Vic state election however after they way they lied and preferenced the Libs in many Vic seats I doubt that those who did support them will do so again. I’m off to the LDP, good people but underfunded and under organised.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 12:12 pm

I realise your options are limited down there, sfw. Will there be an anti-Andrews protest vote? Or have those who would have done so already voted with their feet? November is going to be an interesting month politically.

JC
JC
June 17, 2022 12:14 pm

Bern

Amber Turd.

Make sure she doesn’t shit in the bed. 🙂

sfw
sfw
June 17, 2022 12:18 pm

I get the impression that Andrews isn’t overly popular with his MP’s and party members but has enough strength and ‘influence’ to get his own way. He could probably fall fairly quickly if the media turn on him, don’t know if that would be a good or bad thing for Vic. He’s managed to concentrate enormous power in the office of Premier with the ’emergency’ legislation. I doubt that any successor would be willing to get rid of the power, they will probably say that they will never use it but if you have a hammer….

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 12:22 pm

I get the impression that Andrews isn’t overly popular with his MP’s and party members but has enough strength and ‘influence’ to get his own way. He could probably fall fairly quickly if the media turn on him

Some parallels with QLD under Joh.

Only I’d suggest VIC is more rotten, given how your judiciary has been stacked.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 17, 2022 12:30 pm
local oaf
June 17, 2022 12:37 pm

There are 350+ new coal generators being built in the world today.

Indeed, and if we include those given permission, those in pre-permit and those announced, the total rises to 951.

bespoke
bespoke
June 17, 2022 12:37 pm

Dotsays:
June 17, 2022 at 7:37 am
This early childhood education shit is crazy.

Remember though, Federal Labor wanted it to go to down to kids as young as THREE.

Great, institutionalise society from 0 – 22.

Do you even have a society at that point?

Err 0-grave.
Some smart nerd (no offence) only has to look into the policies of places like the DCP and Centerlink to find out what’s being trialed for the rest of us.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 17, 2022 12:39 pm

Neil Mitchell 3aw has decided to grow a set and declared Dan Andrews will possibly go down as the worst premier in Victorian history.

Just wait a while Gez.
He will get a tap on the shoulder over the weekend and Monday he will issue a grovelling apology, declaring that he had forgotten about Bolte and Kennett.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 12:40 pm

Indeed, and if we include those given permission, those in pre-permit and those announced, the total rises to 951.

Thanks for that, local oaf…I suspected as much but couldn’t locate a figure.

Something to raise at the next dinner party when the lights go out!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 17, 2022 12:40 pm

Satellite images have now shown Iran reportedly making preparations for a space rocket launch

There once was a special name for a space rocket that went up, and then fell back down to land somewhere other than where it was launched.

A ‘naughty rocket’?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 17, 2022 12:49 pm

Bruce O’Newk:
The new Panther?
That’s one hell of a shot trap there.

Thought the same thing.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 17, 2022 12:52 pm

Tammy Tyrell was Jacqui’s office manager. Guaranteed to vote the same as Jacqui Jacqui.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 17, 2022 12:54 pm

interesting.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/jun/16/stunning-anglo-saxon-burial-site-found-along-hs2-route
An Anglo-Saxon burial site containing the remains of more than 140 people interred with some of their most favoured objects, including jewellery, knives and even a personal grooming kit, has been discovered by archaeologists working on the HS2 route.

The site, near Wendover, Buckinghamshire, contained a “stunning set of discoveries”, said the historian Dan Snow. “Traditionally, this period has been dismissed as a dark age. But archaeology has filled the gaps.”

P
P
June 17, 2022 12:57 pm

Malcolm Turnbull and wife Lucy roasted over comments on improving Western Sydney

Furious western Sydney residents have blasted Malcolm and Lucy Turnbull over a “tone-deaf” interview where the pair called for the outer suburbs to be transformed to be more like the inner city and east.

The former prime minister and his wife advocated for the transitioning of Western Sydney to mimic the more densely populated and “pedestrian-friendly” environment of the city’s east.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 17, 2022 12:58 pm

Eastern States Uniparty at work.

Prepare your angus!

The Victorian premier, Daniel Andrews, has hailed a new era of cooperation between the states and commonwealth, while revealing it was former prime minister and “mutual friend” Paul Keating who recommended he and the New South Wales premier work closely together on a reform agenda.

Speaking exclusively to Guardian Australia ahead of Friday’s national cabinet meeting – the first since Anthony Albanese became prime minister – Andrews said he was hopeful that the country’s leaders could agree on a program of reform for health, energy and skills after a wasted decade under the former Coalition government.

Andrews, who along with his NSW counterpart, Dominic Perrottet, announced a shake-up of preschool education on Thursday, said he had contacted Perrottet at the urging of Keating.
“After [Perrottet] became premier Paul rang me and said, ‘oh, you should reach out he is serious about doing some things’, and I said, ‘OK no worries’, so of course I did, and it went well,” Andrews said.

“We don’t necessarily agree on everything, but we get along well, in that he’s focused on outcomes and trying to leave the place better than he found it and there’s no shortage of challenges to tackle.”

Andrews said the two leaders “talk quite often”, and had discussed the need for health and economic reform, both of which will be on the agenda of Friday’s meeting in Canberra.

“Coming out of the pandemic, there is a greater understanding among state and territory leaders that there are big levers to be pulled that make profound differences in people’s lives that can unlock productivity, unlock potential that would go unfulfilled if we didn’t step up and make some of these changes,” he said.

He said he believed there was an appetite for cooperation among state and territory leaders, and that Albanese would be a “great Labor leader”, who was willing to work cooperatively to achieve meaningful change for Australians.

“That’s what’s so refreshing about the new government,” Andrews said.

“I’ve known Anthony for 25, 30 years and he didn’t run just to win, he ran to do the work and there’s a big difference between politicians who are just about winning and defeating their opponents v people who want the challenge,” he said. “They want the opportunity as well as the obligation of the office.

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“He is not going to sit around occupying the office. He’s going to try to get things done. And he can count on Victoria and I think increasingly, he can count on all of us … as partners to do that important work.”

Anders
Anders
June 17, 2022 1:08 pm

Billions spent on wind turbines and they’re providing 2% of the country’s energy needs at the moment according to AEMO. Time to build more and shut down our coal plants!

Rabz
June 17, 2022 1:18 pm

said he was hopeful that the country’s leaders could agree on a program of reform for health, energy and skills

What a truly terrifying prospect.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 1:28 pm

“Coming out of the pandemic, there is a greater understanding among state and territory leaders that there are big levers to be pulled that make profound differences in people’s lives …”

If only someone would pull the lever on Andrews.

P
P
June 17, 2022 1:33 pm

Albanese to outline climate plan at summit
AAP
PM Anthony Albanese will detail Australia’s new emissions target to a forum of major economies.
Mr Biden will on Friday night host a virtual leader-level meeting of what is know as the Major Economies Forum on Energy and Climate.

“I will be a speaker at the forum being convened by President Biden where we will be further announcing our program of the new commitment that we’ve submitted to the UNFCCC,” Mr Albanese told reporters.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 1:36 pm

PM Anthony Albanese will detail Australia’s new emissions target to a forum of major economies.
Mr Biden will on Friday night host a virtual leader-level meeting of what is know as the Major Economies Forum on Energy and Climate.

Let’s hope there’s a blackout wherever Elbow’s logged on.

calli
calli
June 17, 2022 1:38 pm

Let’s hope there’s a blackout wherever Elbow’s logged on.

The battery in his earpiece ran out during an interview this morning.

His brain sucked the life out of it.

P
P
June 17, 2022 1:49 pm

Gas prices leave Biden with few options going into world energy, climate forum
Skyrocketing energy costs forcing president to go against environmentalist goals

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 17, 2022 2:00 pm

The CM online has an article up about medical people who are planning to protest at Parliament next week over Vax mandate.

Below is my comment that was rejected. Their moderators are proving my point about only one side of the debate being allowed.

“In the past 2 years pretty much the only Dr’s / experts we have heard from have been the vaccine ones. Pretty much all have pushed to get people to take the next jab or booster when it is clear they wane. The waning was not part of the original plan but this was due to the urgency of creating and approving them.

I don’t recall seeing any articles involving cancer specialists talking about the delayed treatments, or cardiologists talking about effects of the vaccine.

It has been very obvious alternative medical voices have been suppressed as nothing must be allowed to deter from the Vax narrative.

We now have a situation where different Qld Government Departments have different Vax policies. In NSW you can’t be a lifesaver if unvaxxed but across the border you can. It no longer makes sense to have any mandates.

If you agree with mandates then how many Vax do you think the Govt should be able to coerce you into getting. Loss of job/income is coercion.

Ever notice how the Vax pushers always fail to mention that the average age of those dying with Covid is 84 and that they also have co-morbidities. Happy to mention how many have died with Covid but never give all the relevant information”.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 17, 2022 2:01 pm

Fuck all wind power being generated anywhere in Eastern Australia right now.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 17, 2022 2:06 pm

Billions spent on wind turbines and they’re providing 2% of the country’s energy needs at the moment according to AEMO.

Grid Solar’s going well, however.
Bright clear day: currently sending out 2500MW from 5900MW installed capacity.

Shame it’s going to drop back to zero in a couple of hours.

Hugh
Hugh
June 17, 2022 2:12 pm

Wife is cooking roast pork tonight. My contribution is that I have sharpened the carving knife.

Dot
Dot
June 17, 2022 2:15 pm

There is a circular to NSW Transport staff responding from a request from AEMO asking them to WFH to save energy demand.

Some mad lad has questioned it on the intranet face space, I hope he is looking for work now, before he gets sacked directly from the Secretary of Transport (Rob Sharp)!

What a shit show of a third world country.

sfw
sfw
June 17, 2022 2:19 pm

Looking at getting private hospital cover, had nearly all my life but had to drop out around ten years ago due to finances at the time. If we use my wifes and make it for two of us, it’ll cost another $180 a fortnight, if I go as an individual on ‘silver’ level it’s around $112 a month, BUT I have to pay the 2% a year LFT extra, government imposed. So around a 20% premium for me, how the hell does the gov think this encourages people to take out health insurance?

Lifetime Health Cover (LHC) loading is a 2% government charge on your hospital cover for every year you are aged over 30 if you do not have private hospital cover on the 1st of July following your 31st birthday. The maximum loading is 70%. For example, if you join at 45 you pay 30% more for your health insurance than someone who joined at age 30. The sooner you get cover the less you’ll have to pay.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 17, 2022 2:19 pm

Dotsays:

June 17, 2022 at 2:15 pm

There is a circular to NSW Transport staff responding from a request from AEMO asking them to WFH to save energy demand

Err, how does one person working in a 2-3 bedroom house save energy as against hundreds of worker bees in an office at a density of one bee per 10-12 sq mtrs?
An office which is probably still open, heated and lit up with servers running.
I smell a push to normalise WFH.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 17, 2022 2:23 pm

sfwsays:

June 17, 2022 at 2:19 pm

Looking at getting private hospital cover, had nearly all my life but had to drop out around ten years ago due to finances at the time.

Obviously you have had a “self insured” mindset for ten years.
Look beyond the headline premiums for plans with high excess payments. I think we’ve got a hospital excess of $1500 (maybe $2k) in exchange for lower premiums. A little bit of pain if we have to use it, but not as bad as shelling out $20 – $30 k or waiting years on a public list.

local oaf
June 17, 2022 2:25 pm

Roger says:
June 17, 2022 at 12:40 pm

Indeed, and if we include those given permission, those in pre-permit and those announced, the total rises to 951.

Thanks for that, local oaf…I suspected as much but couldn’t locate a figure.

Something to raise at the next dinner party when the lights go out!

https://globalenergymonitor.org/projects/global-coal-plant-tracker/tracker/

Vicki
Vicki
June 17, 2022 2:26 pm

Andrews, who along with his NSW counterpart, Dominic Perrottet, announced a shake-up of preschool education on Thursday, said he had contacted Perrottet at the urging of Keating.
“After [Perrottet] became premier Paul rang me and said, ‘oh, you should reach out he is serious about doing some things’, and I said, ‘OK no worries’, so of course I did, and it went well,” Andrews said.

Yet another reason why I do not intend to vote for Perrottet at the next state election. These Liberals are just rolling over. And there’s the old scumbag (to use Keating’s own inimitable language) pulling the strings!

We are SO dead!

Cassie of Sydney
June 17, 2022 2:27 pm

PFurious western Sydney residents have blasted Malcolm and Lucy Turnbull over a “tone-deaf” interview where the pair called for the outer suburbs to be transformed to be more like the inner city and east.

The former prime minister and his wife advocated for the transitioning of Western Sydney to mimic the more densely populated and “pedestrian-friendly” environment of the city’s east.”

LOL. Well of course. Just remember how, back in 2016, during that most dismal election campaign, when the great Malcolm the Most Miserable and Malignant, who was supposed to be the Liberal’s second coming, except that the only people who’d ever liked him were the very same people who’d never vote Liberal in a heartbeat, would retire everyday during the campaign at 1.00 p.m. and remember how he would regularly set himself and Luce (rhymes with Puke) for photo ops on the Edgecliff to Martin Place train line, getting off at Martin Place, not for him or Luce (rhymes with Puke) the great train trek out along the western line to campaign amongst the great unwashed in swinging electorates like Lindsay, a seat which was lost in the great Turdbull electorate wipe out of 2016*.

Anyway I digress, there are many beautiful liveable places in the western suburbs of Sydney, something of course that Maltrud and Luce (rhymes with Puke) wouldn’t know because I doubt very much that either of them have spent much time, if any at all, visiting and touring Sydney’s great west…but that doesn’t stop these two shrivelled up, bitter, nasty, toxic pieces of elitist scum from Point Pier lecturing ordinary Australians..

* By the way, Lindsay was won back in 2019 by Morrison and on 21 May 2022 it was held by the Liberals, with an increased Liberal vote. It was once a bell-weather. No more. And if this doesn’t tell you where the Liberals need to go in the future, nothing does. In the meantime, it’s time Malturd and Luce (rhymes with Puke) and his two ghastly entitled sprogs need to be told, once and for all, to FUCK OFF.

I intend to read “Ego”, Aaron Patrick’s new book about Turdbull. It’s an apt title. Apparently it’s very good and Patrick, who was on Kenny’s show last night, says that Turdbull, without a doubt, engaged in treachery and perfidy to bring down the Liberal government as well as Sharma’s tenure as the member for Wentworth. Oh and he was up to his eyeballs in the Christian Porter allegations.

But just remember, he’s still a member of the Liberal Party, the party being too gutless to expel him. Says it all really.

Winston Smith
June 17, 2022 2:29 pm

Hugh:

Wife is cooking roast pork tonight. My contribution is that I have sharpened the carving knife.

Good man. Don’t encroach on the kitchen citadel – she’ll never forgive you.
Ditto the washing up.
…and the vacuuming.
…and dusting.
…you know, the girly stuff.
Trust me on this.

Vicki
Vicki
June 17, 2022 2:33 pm

Wife is cooking roast pork tonight. My contribution is that I have sharpened the carving knife.

On our intermittent visit to Sydney husband and I visited Chatswood today, had a delicious bowl of Vietnamese Pho for lunch, and brought home a BBQ’d duck, 2 dozen pancakes & cartons of plum sauce. Will take it to daughter’s house tonight to put together Peking Duck pancakes.

What a simple joy it was to visit a favourite spot without the crazy impositions of the past two years. As usual, an older Chinese lady in the queue insisted on going through the correct procedure to make the pancakes.

At least on this occasion, all was right in the world. For now.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 2:34 pm

Meanwhile, half of Elbow’s Cabinet were in on that decision.
I wonder if we’ll hear any mea culpas from them?

Or anything from the j’ismists writing at the time. Gladstone was the Trojan horse that brought world parity pricing to the East Coast gas market. Most of the NWS gas is contracted into Asian power markets which underwrote the development in the first place.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 17, 2022 2:34 pm

The new Panther?
That’s one hell of a shot trap there.

Thought the same thing.

The wedge-shaped mantlet armour pieces on late-model Leo turrets and the new Panther are hollow, spaced armour pieces of a milder steel, intended to slow kinetic projectiles and disrupt shaped charge plasma jet formation before it strikes the actual composite armour plate. Both types of incoming round will punch holes clean through it, and not be deflected into the turret ring or towards the thinner cheek plating.

From the wiki, we have a nice image of the back of one of these wedge plates as fitted to German Army’s Leo 2A5. 🙂

Hugh
Hugh
June 17, 2022 2:37 pm

Winston Smith:
June 17, 2022 at 2:29 pm

Spot on. I’d only be in the way anyhow. 😉

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 2:38 pm

Green beans. $20 / kg

Beans are very easy to grow. Out of season at the moment. Labour would be an issue growing them commercially but a few plants would give you a couple of feeds a week.

Cassie of Sydney
June 17, 2022 2:39 pm

“Obviously you have had a “self insured” mindset for ten years.
Look beyond the headline premiums for plans with high excess payments. I think we’ve got a hospital excess of $1500 (maybe $2k) in exchange for lower premiums. A little bit of pain if we have to use it, but not as bad as shelling out $20 – $30 k or waiting years on a public list.”

Correct, I have an excess of $500.00. I didn’t have a problem paying that when I had to go to hospital last December.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 2:42 pm

If you thought Amber Heard would use the litter box it might be tempting to give it a crack.

Dot
Dot
June 17, 2022 2:43 pm

WTF?

The lunatics are in charge.

#RebelNews #AviYemini #Ahpra
Australian healthcare regulator to PERMANENTLY mandate vaccines
Jun 17, 2022

Rebel News
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*EXCLUSIVE: A medical practitioner is speaking out after the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency (Ahpra) ‘sneakily’ updated the entire industry’s code of conduct to mandate vaccines even after the pandemic.*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ium2EwnyP9w

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 2:48 pm

Roger at 12:22 – I’d say Chairman Dan is finished as soon as the Liar Left think he cannot win the next election. I thought this may be before the next one but it looks like this may be wrong. Victoriastan really is another country.

Winston Smith
June 17, 2022 2:52 pm

Rex Anger:

The wedge-shaped mantlet armour pieces on late-model Leo turrets and the new Panther are hollow, spaced armour pieces of a milder steel, intended to slow kinetic projectiles and disrupt shaped charge plasma jet formation before it strikes the actual composite armour plate.

Yep – understand that, but is the armour above the driver/upper hull still thick enough to deflect a sabot round/or a disrupted primary dual shaped charge warhead?
(Not trying to be a smartarse, but there are a lot of sophisticated munitions out there.)

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 2:52 pm

Neil Mitchell 3aw has decided to grow a set and declared Dan Andrews will possibly go down as the worst premier in Victorian history.

Hard to go past Cain/Kirner.

calli
calli
June 17, 2022 3:05 pm

Out of season at the moment.

That’s like…I don’t know…some sort of clue. 🙂

Reminiscing the other day about in/out of season in my yoof. Remember when tomatoes were impossible to get (unless someone, somewhere, had a glasshouse)? I do. And the end-of-summer glut? Strawberries ditto.

Salads in summer, steamed veg in winter and all stops in between. It’s mandarin season now, and they are cheap and plentiful. And avos are as cheap as chips. Enjoy the bounty as it arrives, and thank the Lord that you have good food to eat.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 17, 2022 3:06 pm

Yep – understand that, but is the armour above the driver/upper hull still thick enough to deflect a sabot round/or a disrupted primary dual shaped charge warhead?

That I couldn’t tell you- The Leopard 2 does not seem to have been combat tested after 30+ years of fielding in the same way the Chally 1/2 and M1A1/2 have. I suspect it probably does, as the only recorded penetrations from a tandem-charge AT weapon on any of the post-1970 Chobham/Burlington armoured MBT designs have not been aimed at the glacis plate, mantlet or turret front.

The first recorded case was a Chally 2 in Basra in 2006- An RPG-29 was fired at it, which struck and penetrated the ERA-protected underside front hull plate (about where the idler wheels are located) and maimed the driver. The tank was recovered under its own power, despite the injuries suffered by the crew. RPG-29 strikes and penetrations (with subsequent crew injuries) against M1A2s at the same time were recorded against the thinner turret sides and rear. The Israelis had a bad time with RPG29 penetrations against their Merkavas in 2006, but by 2014 their effectiveness was nullified by the Trophy Active Protection System.

I’ve seen some relatively recent images of burnt-out Turkish Leo 2A4+ from northern Syria, but am pretty sure they weren’t killed by frontal penetrations.

cohenite
June 17, 2022 3:16 pm
Cassie of Sydney
June 17, 2022 3:16 pm

Don’t you just love come council’s priorities. This proposal was absurd, regardless of where you stand on Russia/Ukraine…

“Fullerton Street: Woollahra Councillors vote on Ukraine Street renaming

Councillors have voted on plans to rename an eastern suburbs street to Ukraine Street after attracting hundreds of submissions including concerns over property prices.

Sydney’s Ukrainian community say they have been left disappointed after a council backflipped on plans to rename a leafy eastern suburbs street to Ukraine Street.

Woollahra councillors have unanimously rejected a proposal to change the name of Fullerton Street which is home to the Russian Consulate, along with homes and several businesses.

The proposal was designed to serve as a symbolic protest against Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and had been supported by 13 of 14 councillors at a meeting just six weeks ago in early May.

But the planned rename drew battlegrounds closer to home with hundreds of residents signing a petition against the move, while a fortnight of community consultation generated 840 submissions – of which 44 per cent were in support and 56 per cent opposed.

A bulk of objections came from residents living on Fullerton Street with just 11 per cent of occupants supporting the name change.

Objectors said the proposal could have left locals having to change postal details on “every document, utility, licence” while others feared it “could also affect property valuations from a name being of such a political nature”.

Will Berry, who runs a video production business on the street, said was happy the name was staying the same. Other opponents described the renaming as “tokenistic” and a “symbolic gesture that will do nothing to help or even stop the Ukrainian war.”

“Council’s job is to control rates, rubbish and roads. It should not think it has any authority over international politics,” another submission stated.

Supporters of the renaming said it would be a “small but powerful” way for the council and community to stand by the citizens of Ukraine.

“It will be a daily reminder to those writing to, working in, arriving at and supporting the consulate that Russia’s brutal and catastrophic aggression towards Ukraine is not and never will be acceptable,” one supporter wrote.

The proposal dominated debate during this week’s council meeting. Councillor Nicola Grieve said the council had to respect the community feedback – noting that the “people who will be carrying the burden and will be massively inconvenienced are the residents of Fullerton St”.

The meeting also had councillors suggest other ways to express support for Ukraine such as flying a Ukrainian flag on a council building, supporting a Ukrainian inspired public artwork or renaming another public area to ‘Ukraine Square’ or Ukraine Place.

Councillor Mary-Lou Jarvis said the measures could present further challenges for the council.

“I’m mindful this is not going to be the only war in the world – if we have a Ukraine Place then perhaps we need a Taiwan Place and I just don’t want to create a precedent because there’ll be other atrocities elsewhere the our world and we must then create places all over the municipality. Where’s it going to end?” she said.

Councillors ultimately voted to take no further action on the renaming of Fullerton Street, while at the same time reaffirming its condemnation of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

The council will also write to the Federal Government requesting an increase to the number of humanitarian visas arising from the conflict, and investigate other ways to demonstrate community support for Ukraine.

Stefan Romaniw – chair of the Australian Federation of Ukrainian Organisations – said he was disappointed with the council’s decision not to proceed with the name change.

“We would have liked the change and we’ve written to the council to try to find alternatives,” he said.

“Obviously we’re disappointed because the situation in Ukraine warrants a change in the street name given the Russian Consulate is there.

“The most important thing is to send a strong message that the community supports the people of Ukraine.”

The proposed name change came after the council’s traffic committee voted to strip the consulate of three dedicated carparking spaces on Fullerton Street in May and instead made them available for wider community use.

Consul-General of Russia Igor Arzhaev – in a rare address to the council this month – said the removal of parking spaces, which are monitored by police, had caused security concerns for the consulate officials.

“The building has been a Soviet building for over 50 years and until this time we had good relations with your municipal council and respected all municipal rules,” he said.

“The council has an obligation under the Vienna Convention to ensure proper conditions for the consular general.

“We really need these parking spaces. It’s important for our security and it’s also strongly needed for the security of all those Australian citizens who attend us and visit here.

“We continue to receive threatening and offensive messages and regard it very seriously. ””

Whatever happened to councils just concerning themselves with rates, roads and rubbish?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 17, 2022 3:20 pm

Sound advice Winston.

When questioned about my contribution to domestic (non) I will say: because intetnet.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 17, 2022 3:20 pm

Some angry people about energy over at the Oz:

Fiona fumed:

“Australians will rise up like never before, when deprived of cheap, reliable, baseload power.

Politicians from both sides of the aisle, with the exception of a few, had better DO something about this nonsense, and soon.”

Kim was cross:

“AEMO has conceded, publicly, the current east coast power crisis is partly due to lower than needed solar/wind power. Yet Labor, the ABC, Pocock, Teals, The Guardian, The Project, Turnbull, Holmes a Court and business leader sell outs all ignore this fact.

“All the bumbling green energy mob can say is get more batteries but where do these come from, are they reliable AND what’s the carbon foot print on making them and the cost environmental cost of disposing of them?”

TrustMe said:

“Have all the targets and aspirations you want but do NOT legislate them. Doing so will hand activists a huge advantage when they take coal and gas infrastructure projects to court. They will win every time as the courts will have no choice but assess if such projects breach or are likely to breach the law.

“Or is that the intention? Let the activists and courts do Labor’s dirty work and they sit back saying, ‘nothing to do with us it was a court decision’.”

Mark agreed:

“They don’t need to legislate it to do it. They should get on with what they promised to do. Ramp up solar and wind ASAP! Turn off reliable coal and gas ASAP. The electorate needs to feel the full ramifications of their decision at the recent election. We need to see clear outcomes prior to the next election so this can be put to bed once and for all. Everyone needs to turn everything on!”

Sir James of Punchbowl complained:

“OMG, this article actually made me feel sick … where will we be in 2024? In caves burning sticks?”

J. Locke replied:

“Sorry, stick burning will be unlawful. The CO2 emissions caused by said burning will prevent the achievement of these so called climate targets. You will sit in your dark cave, cold simply thinking warm thoughts.”

John T looked back in anger:

“I understand we have an energy crisis because nothing has been done for the past 15 years. If the market had been allowed to work back in the late noughties, secure renewable supply would likely be in place.”

Vaughan had questions:

“ ‘Firmed renewables’? There is nothing ‘firm’ about energy sources whose intensity waxes and wanes at nature’s whim. And that energy is not, strictly speaking, ‘renewable’ it will only last until the giant nuclear reactor in the sky runs out of energy.”

Jessie J worried:

“An iron foundry In Adelaide has stood down 170 employees due to the energy crisis.

What chance the foundry’s customers will be guaranteed supply by Chinese foundries (using electricity reliably generated by coal)!”

sfw
sfw
June 17, 2022 3:21 pm

Thanks Sancho and Cassie, the plans I’ve been looking at are $750 excess, however I’d be happy to have a $3k excess, maybe more, I’m more concerned about a catastrophe rather than normal hospitalisations.

Cassie of Sydney
June 17, 2022 3:25 pm

“Fiona fumed:

“Australians will rise up like never before, when deprived of cheap, reliable, baseload power.

Politicians from both sides of the aisle, with the exception of a few, had better DO something about this nonsense, and soon.””

Yeah…just like, over the last two years, they rose up when locked up, bashed up and deprived of their liberty by various state governments.

I’m not holding my breath.

duncanm
duncanm
June 17, 2022 3:25 pm

More on the Northern Beach yoof concerns.

It may help if they spoke English. Hannah is heading straight to politics!

Hannah, 17, says “the acceleration of teacher shortages demonstrates its [the education system’s] culpability to inaction.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
June 17, 2022 3:27 pm

Whatever happened to councils just concerning themselves with rates, roads and rubbish?

Last one was somewhere in SA, and it was during the Jurassic period.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 17, 2022 3:36 pm

Cassie

Whatever happened to councils just concerning themselves with rates, roads and rubbish?

Not enough opportunities for grandstanding.

bespoke
bespoke
June 17, 2022 3:48 pm

Stefan Romaniw – chair of the Australian Federation of Ukrainian Organisations – said he was disappointed with the council’s decision not to proceed with the name change.

Go back then.

Hugh
Hugh
June 17, 2022 3:50 pm

Cassie of Sydney:
June 17, 2022 at 3:16 pm

Whatever happened to councils just concerning themselves with rates, roads and rubbish?

The council my wife used to work for employed some person as a “well-being officer”, whose job included sending “wellness Wednesday” emails to all staff. Very productive use of ratepayers’ money.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 17, 2022 3:51 pm

Supporters of the renaming said it would be a “small but powerful” way for the council and community to stand by the citizens of Ukraine.

Not as powerful as showing the Ukies how to find Javenella’s cooling button.

calli
calli
June 17, 2022 3:52 pm

Not enough opportunities for grandstanding

Quite so.

There was a time when government concerned itself with serving the people who paid them.

Now they only serve themselves.

Harlequin Decline
June 17, 2022 3:52 pm

Monkeypox Has a New Name…and It Doesn’t Sound Any Better

I’ve got a few suggestions-how about Shirtlifter Sores or, if alliteration is preferred then Bum Bandit Boils.

There are one or two more but they are a bit vulgar so probably not acceptable.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 17, 2022 3:54 pm

A Catholic private school in Massachusetts has been excommunicated by a local bishop after ignoring orders to remove pride and BLM flags.

The Nativity School of Worcester has been sanctioned by Robert J. McManus, the Bishop of the Diocese of Worcester, for their refusal to take them down.

He says the facility – the only tuition-free private school in the region – cannot continue to call itself Catholic while flying in the face of key church teachings.

The school, run by Principal Emily Kent is the only tuition-free private middle school in the region and serves about 60 students.

It took McManus over a year to respond to the school flying the two flags in front of the campus, stating the two symbols represent specific agendas or ideologies [that] contradict Catholic social and moral teaching.’

The objection to the pride flag is over rules regarding same sex marriage in Catholic teaching, with the church saying that being gay itself isn’t a sin – but that gay relationships are.

McManus also clarified that the opposition to Black Lives Matter is in terms of the controversial organization, not the anti-racist sentiment behind the slogan.

Daily Mail

calli
calli
June 17, 2022 3:54 pm

Like these slobs.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 3:55 pm

Calli – stonefruit still sort of have a season. You can buy Californian nectarines in winter. But you’d be a bit of an idiot.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 17, 2022 3:55 pm

Both types of incoming round will punch holes clean through it, and not be deflected into the turret ring or towards the thinner cheek plating.

Thats a little good to know, if it was solid then youd be looking at a German space program similar to the one the Russians are running for their tanks.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 3:56 pm

Pommy bananas were the worst. They practically went black on the drive home.

rickw
rickw
June 17, 2022 3:57 pm

My mate (last week heart attack) had another appointment yesterday, Dr indicated that heart attacks are through the roof.

He then told me one of his mates, of a similar vintage, dropped dead of a massive heart attack yesterday while at work. Minimal warning, gee, I feel a bit crook, bang, lights out.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 17, 2022 3:58 pm

Thats a little good to know, if it was solid then youd be looking at a German space program similar to the one the Russians are running for their tanks.

Yes indeedy, given that the Leopard 2 stores the majority of its 42 main gun rounds in the hull, and only about 15 or so in the turret’s ready rack…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 17, 2022 4:00 pm

You know the old saying ‘You can stick that where the monkey sticks his nuts”.

I think they are doing the same with bananas.

Im not saying its monkeypox related… but its obviously monkeypox related.

Devastating banana freckle disease found in Northern Territory
Industry scrambles to limit infestation from spreading to Queensland

Stop doing freckle things with bananas you degenerate NT swine!

The first case of the new outbreak was discovered two weeks ago in the Batchelor-Rum Jungle area, about 105km south of Darwin. At least two more cases have since been discovered.

Batchelors-gay obviously.

calli
calli
June 17, 2022 4:02 pm

They do Bear. But how often do we find stone fruit that has been picked way too early to facilitate transport, only to find it resembles a hand grenade? The shot sits piled up on the supermarket benches, ready to load.

So, in hope, we leave the fruit out on the counter to ripen. And it turns to mush because it has been too deeply chilled somewhere in the process.

That’s what amazed me in Europe, even in the larger cities. Fruit would be brought in from the regions a couple of times a week to the market, you would select a peach or three (I loved those flat ones, handy for picnics) and they were ripe and warm and delicious and smelled of the sun.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 17, 2022 4:05 pm

Whatever happened to councils just concerning themselves with rates, roads and rubbish?

It’s hard to save the world if you only do it one pothole at a time.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 17, 2022 4:05 pm

“When we get in, we will just change everything”.

A political utterance that will never lose its currency.

Anthony Albanese backflips on national cabinet secrecy and refuses to say why
PM opts to continue to prevent release of documents related to meetings with state leaders despite his previous criticism of the practice

Anthony Albanese has backflipped on national cabinet secrecy, opting to continue to prevent the release of documents related to meetings of the prime minister and state and territory leaders, despite strident criticism of the practice in opposition.

At a press conference after his first national cabinet meeting as prime minister, Albanese confirmed the commonwealth had not proposed ending the practice, despite his accusation that Scott Morrison was “obsessed with secrecy”. Albanese refused to answer questions about why he had backflipped on the matter.

Morrison established national cabinet in March 2020, replacing the Council of Australian Governments with the new body, which his government claimed was exempt from freedom of information laws because it was a subcommittee of federal cabinet.

In opposition, after having his own FOI requests denied, Albanese told Guardian Australia the decision to block his request was “extraordinary” and warned that the prime minister’s department was “not above the law”.

“Mr Morrison’s obsession with secrecy has undermined the law that protects all Australians’ right to know and, if left unchecked, threatens other fundamental rights,” he said in December.

In September, the then shadow attorney general, Mark Dreyfus, said the Morrison government had not appealed the AAT decision because it would have faced “another humiliating rebuff”.

In March, Dreyfus told the Canberra Times Labor would unwind the secrecy scheme in government. “As [the ACT chief minister] Andrew Barr has observed, ‘national cabinet is reaching the end of its fairly limited lifespan’,” he reportedly said.

“But Labor’s position is that it was never subject to cabinet-in-confidence rules for FOI requests, and we would adhere to this in office.”

On Friday, Albanese was asked if he had proposed ending national cabinet secrecy and if so what had changed from his earlier criticism. He replied “no”, refusing to answer the second half of the question by stating “you got to ask one question”.

UNIPARTY!!!

The Queensland premier, Annastacia Palaszczuk, said that national cabinet was “really important” and “served the people really well when we dealt with the pandemic for two years”.

“If we keep that format in terms of making decisions in the best interests of the country I think we’ll get a lot of things done,” she told reporters in Canberra.

Asked if secrecy and solidarity would remain, the Western Australian premier, Mark McGowan, said: “I would expect so … I know people always look for points of difference but it’s actually been pretty good over the last two and a half years. And I certainly support those sorts of things.”

The New South Wales premier, Dominic Perrottet, said national cabinet can have constructive discussions “as long as the states have buy-in and it’s not an us versus them mentality, which I think it has been in the past”.

“It’s important, which I’ll be raising today, that the states have capacity to engage and put their own agenda into the national cabinet meeting. It can’t just be a top down approach.”

Asked about secrecy and solidarity, the Victorian premier, Daniel Andrews, said: “It’s a matter of fact that if you want cabinet government to work you need cabinet rules – they’re the rules that apply to national cabinet and should apply, so we can continue to get things done.”

calli
calli
June 17, 2022 4:08 pm

Mole, the Guardian is a bit out of date (nyuk, nyuk).

The ABC reported that outbreak back on June 1. And they had the intelligence to post a photo of a diseased banana, not a normal one.

Malturd is not getting value for money. Not in agricultural news, anyway.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 17, 2022 4:11 pm

I don’t understand Australians preoccupation with health insurance. We cancelled our insurance many years ago after being ripped off by dodgy doctors. We had very good cover which can now only be considered top cover at an exorbitant rate. We dropped it to hospital only to get out of the levy, then dropped it completely when I retired. We put the premiums aside for if we need a quick fix, did it once. Recently I had an operation done on medicare before I could get an appointment to see the specialist of choice. Do you worry about who is operating on you in an emergency, I doubt it. I had a friend drop dead 2 days after a knee replacement with a surgeon of choice in a private hospital. I’ve had both knees done, one was good, one not, by the supposed top guy in a private hospital on medicare. What I do now is pay for the specialist to look at me straight away, get on the list and wait. This is the same guy who has done 3 operations on me (not the knee guy) on medicare. If its an emergency who cares. As for an obstetrician, most of them don’t arrive in time anyway apart from presenting the bill. They don’t hang round waiting for baby to present itself, there’s golf to be played, mistresses to be attended to.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 17, 2022 4:14 pm

@ Mole-

In other words, there is too much to lose for any one of these pollies to even pretend at accountability…

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 4:14 pm

Calli – often the problem with stonefruit is that they have been hybridised to within an inch of their lives. Even if you find a good one two weeks later you are eating a different one. Grrrrr.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 17, 2022 4:16 pm

I do wish Gonzalo Lora would share his ‘Chemical Weapons’ with the rest of us…

Speaking of which, whatever happened to those biolabs?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 17, 2022 4:25 pm

Nobody tell Gonzalo Lira that the US Army’s Chemical Corps is a CBRN defence and monitoring organisation, and hasn’t offensively deployed anything nastier than obscurant smoke for the last 40 or so years…

Zipster
June 17, 2022 4:26 pm

“Fullerton Street: Woollahra Councillors vote on Ukraine Street renaming

right next to Uranus ave

Zipster
June 17, 2022 4:34 pm

China launches new domestically designed and built Fujian aircraft carrier, increasing fleet to threeChina has launched its third aircraft carrier, the first such ship to be designed and built entirely within the country.

The 003 new-generation aircraft carrier, christened Fujian, left its dry-dock at a shipyard in Shanghai in the morning and tied up at a nearby pier, state media reports said.

State broadcaster CCTV showed assembled navy personnel standing beneath the massive ship as water jets sprayed over its deck and multi-coloured streamers flew and colourful smoke was released.

The launch comes as China seeks to extend the range and power of its navy.

Equipped with the latest weaponry and aircraft-launch technology, the ship’s capabilities are thought to rival those of Western carriers, as Beijing seeks to turn its navy, already the world’s largest, into a multi-carrier force.

Zipster
June 17, 2022 4:41 pm

An Australian man killed last month while helping Ukraine’s war effort declared how he wanted Russian forces “eradicated” from the country, just days before he too died in the conflict.

In May, Tasmanian father Michael O’Neill became the first known Australian to die while assisting Ukraine, in what Prime Minister Anthony Albanese described as a “tragedy”.

they sure make them smart in tassie

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 17, 2022 4:47 pm

Leftism.

Its a brain parasite.

Now is the perfect time to increase coal royalties to fund Australia’s energy transition
John Quiggin

The usual trade-off between maximising revenue while protecting industry’s long-term future no longer applies

What a slimy shitbag.
” Because we are deliberately trying to send you broke it doesnt matter if we skin you faster”…

What the sub-mong says

For most commodities, the high prices we are now observing would be a signal of favourable prospects. For coal, it’s the opposite. World coal consumption peaked in 2014, and is predicted to decline steadily over the next decade. Many countries have already ended the use of coal to generate electricity, or will do so in the next few years. Metallurgical coal, used in making steel, will last a bit longer. But the coal-based blast furnace technology is already facing the prospect of replacement by coal-free techniques using renewable hydrogen.

What the WEF says… also consider we have just had a 2 year experiment in nation wrecking undertaken globally to suppress demand.


But the same analysis applies to royalties, the price paid by miners to the public as owners of the coal resource. Usually there is a trade-off in setting royalty rates, between maximising revenue while protecting the long-term future of the industry. However, this no longer applies. Investment in new coalmines is in long-term decline, whether or not royalty rates are increased.

Queensland’s focus must be on gaining additional revenue while export demand remains strong and using it to transform our energy system. The transition to a carbon-free energy system will require big capital expenditures. In particular, public investment in carbon-free energy through CleanCo needs to be greatly expanded.

As well as decarbonising our own electricity grid, the government needs to plan for the future of regions which currently rely on coal exports as a major source of employment. Many of these are well suited to produce solar, wind and hydrogen.
From the government’s viewpoint, the impending decline of coal is both a challenge and an opportunity. The challenge is the need for a transition to a future beyond coal, both as a source of energy in Australia and as a major export commodity. The opportunity is to use the current period of high coal prices to finance the transition to a decarbonised economy.

John Quiggin is an Australian laureate fellow* in economics** at the University of Queensland***. He is prominent**** both as a research economist***** and as a commentator****** on Australian economic policy.

* retarded mong, raised by a collective of sub normal gnomes
** A science without scientists.
*** How embarassment
**** On speed dial to the ABC
***** Uses numbers to explain why his last predictions were fucked
****** Will speculate for food/recognition/soggy cigarette butts fished from Kings Cross gutters

Bluey
Bluey
June 17, 2022 4:51 pm

Rex Angersays:
June 17, 2022 at 4:16 pm
I do wish Gonzalo Lora would share his ‘Chemical Weapons’ with the rest of us…

Speaking of which, whatever happened to those biolabs?

The US got around to admitting they were funding them, but they were innocuous. Honest. Trust us. Would we ever lie to you?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 17, 2022 4:56 pm

Jared Goldstein | One Nation Team

One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has retained her seat in the Senate for a second consecutive term, pledging to hold the new Albanese government to account and work constructively to ensure it puts Australia and Australians first.

Senator Hanson thanked voters in Queensland for supporting her bid to represent them for another term.

“It has been a considerable challenge for One Nation to field more than 160 candidates in lower and upper house seats across Australia,” she said. “It would not have been possible without the great support from our members, supporters and volunteers.

“I thank Queenslanders for entrusting me to continue to represent them in Canberra, and I thank all those Australians who supported our party and lifted our national vote.

“I also congratulate Mr Albanese on Labor’s win. I’ve said in the past he probably wouldn’t make a good Prime Minister however I sincerely hope he proves me wrong.

“Australians need representation which puts them and their country first more than ever. The costs of living are skyrocketing. We have an energy crisis created by the major parties that One Nation has been warning about for many years. We’re in the middle of a housing crisis. We have significant security challenges. We have a new government seemingly all too ready and willing to sacrifice the Australian economy and countless Australian jobs on the altar of climate change.

“We need urgent reform to ensure multinationals operating in Australia pay their fair share of tax – I acknowledge and welcome Mr Albanese’s commitment to achieve this. We need to lower immigration to reduce demand for housing and catch up with our trailing infrastructure. We need more reform in our family law and child support systems. We need a Royal Commission into the management of the COVID-19 pandemic by Australian governments.

“One Nation will pursue these objectives in the interests of Australia and Australians. I look forward to the resumption of Parliament and getting to work.”

Kind regards,
Jared Goldstein

duncanm
duncanm
June 17, 2022 4:57 pm

when was the last time Q was right about anything?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 4:58 pm

and as a commentator [] on Australian economic policy.

aka on the ALPBC speed dial.

areff
areff
June 17, 2022 4:58 pm

Very productive use of ratepayers’ money.

Port Phillip Council some years ago hired a white witch on, if memory serves, a six-figure salary to lift employee morale and make their auras glow.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 5:00 pm

Port Philip gives some of those Northern Rivers councils a run for their ratepayers money.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 5:01 pm

Worse weather and parking though.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 17, 2022 5:02 pm

Trees ….. natures energy bank – Even when they are fossilised Coal

The Fantastically Strange Origin of Most Coal on Earth

Instead, trunks and branches would fall on top of each other, and the weight of all that heavy wood would eventually compress those trees into peat and then, over time, into coal. Had those bacteria been around devouring wood, they’d have broken carbon bonds, releasing carbon and oxygen into the air, but instead the carbon stayed in the wood.

We’re talking about a spectacular amount of carbon. Biochemist Nick Lane guesses that the rate of coal formation back then was 600 times the normal rate. Ward and Kirschvink say that 90 percent—yup, 90 percent!—of the coal we burn today (and the coal dust we see flying about Beijing and New Delhi) comes from that single geological period, the Carboniferous period.

That’s why it’s called “carboniferous”—because it produced so much carbon. “The Carboniferous period was the time of forest burial on a spectacular scale,” the writers say.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 17, 2022 5:04 pm

The US got around to admitting they were funding them, but they were innocuous. Honest. Trust us. Would we ever lie to you?

Yes. All remnants of the old Soviet Biopreparat.

And the vatniks creamed their pants about Ermagerd, NATO/Nazi/UkroNazi biowerrrperrrrnz!!1! Git ‘um, Vlad! a few weeks before the tanks started rolling. Then it suddenly went quiet when the Kiev campaign went sour.

Then it abruptly and clumsily resurfaced for a week after the Moskva suffered a sudden (And, as it turned out, irreversible) catastrophic loss of bouyancy and a punch-drunk and demoralised Russian Army refocussed itself on trying to claim parts of the Donbass it had been repeatedly repulsed from and denied for over 8 years. And then went quiet again.

So yeah. Paradoxical as it sounds, I’m a bit more inclined to listen to them despite the lies elsewhere. Because the reality of such things would be far more persistent than TrUsTeD SoUrCeS would be able to quash or counter-narrative into submission. The information environment we move in since 2016 and particularly since November 3, 2020 should have convinced you of that…

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 17, 2022 5:04 pm

From George Christensen. Haven’t viewed it though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK_TswiYI7c

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 17, 2022 5:06 pm

DLK
June 17, 2022 at 2:40 pm · Reply
i can have millions of boxes of wind ready to be shipped at a moments notice.

DLK
June 17, 2022 at 2:41 pm · Reply
*if the price is right.

b.nice
June 17, 2022 at 3:14 pm · Reply
I do NOT want to know what you have been eating !!

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 5:08 pm

Victoriastan really is another country.

That was made evident to me last time I was in Melbourne and caught a train to the conference venue.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 5:11 pm

Public transport anywhere during the day is an experience.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 5:14 pm

Public transport anywhere during the day is an experience.

Not one I’d partaken of in years.

I decided to stay with my bil & sil in the suburbs as they were close to the train which took me within a block of the inner city venue .

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 17, 2022 5:19 pm

Frolics it makes you wonder if left ever pay for anything themselves that hasn’t been taken from someone else. Every day economists prove they know nothing except a few. I made a comparison to a mate recently of accountants and weather versus economists and climate.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 17, 2022 5:20 pm

Then it abruptly and clumsily resurfaced for a week after the Moskva suffered a sudden (And, as it turned out, irreversible) catastrophic loss of bouyancy and a punch-drunk and demoralised Russian Army refocussed itself on trying to claim parts of the Donbass it had been repeatedly repulsed from and denied for over 8 years. And then went quiet again.

Actually, the Russians’ trumpeted accusations back in April that those dratted Ukronazis had spent the last 2 years pre-invasion spreading incurable, biolab-grown tuberculosis amongst the children of the Luhansk Peoples’ Republic through contaminated banknotes would constitute an excellent deflection from any and all failures of the LPR’s leadership and their colonial masters in Moscow, to deliver even basic healthcare services to their people.

Particularly as drug-resistant TB has been endemic in eastern Ukraine’s poorer and less nourished population for several decades.

The Propaganda always has a purpose…

shatterzzz
June 17, 2022 5:23 pm

most of them don’t arrive in time anyway apart from presenting the bill
Had private cover up to the 3 of my 4 kids .. the quack didn’t turn up for the 3rd one (mid-wife delivered) but still sent the bill .. never paid it and dropped cover (apart from ambulance) after that! ..
never a problem with public/Medicare since then, 1985 .. tho no idea how other folk have fared since BAT FLU .. I haven’t needed any medical attention in the last 10 years ..

Bluey
Bluey
June 17, 2022 5:28 pm

Rex Angersays:
June 17, 2022 at 5:04 pm
The US got around to admitting they were funding them, but they were innocuous. Honest. Trust us. Would we ever lie to you?

Yes. All remnants of the old Soviet Biopreparat.

And the vatniks creamed their pants about Ermagerd, NATO/Nazi/UkroNazi biowerrrperrrrnz!!1! Git ‘um, Vlad! a few weeks before the tanks started rolling. Then it suddenly went quiet when the Kiev campaign went sour.

Then it abruptly and clumsily resurfaced for a week after the Moskva suffered a sudden (And, as it turned out, irreversible) catastrophic loss of bouyancy and a punch-drunk and demoralised Russian Army refocussed itself on trying to claim parts of the Donbass it had been repeatedly repulsed from and denied for over 8 years. And then went quiet again.

So yeah. Paradoxical as it sounds, I’m a bit more inclined to listen to them despite the lies elsewhere. Because the reality of such things would be far more persistent than TrUsTeD SoUrCeS would be able to quash or counter-narrative into submission. The information environment we move in since 2016 and particularly since November 3, 2020 should have convinced you of that…

Think the Russians did a presentation to the UN about the labs, but I’ve not been able to find anything about it.
Honestly, the main thing that annoys me is there seems to be the assumption Russia isn’t allowed to have their own interests, particularly national security. We wouldn’t be happy to have China park a small army in Indonesia, why the hell is it assumed Russia won’t have a problem with NATO right on their border, particularly now they’ve recovered from the disaster of the 90’s. The idea it’s only Putin that has a problem with it is a joke. As far as I can tell he’s about the most moderate option these days, exacerbated by the sanctions recently. Have you seen the stuff Dimitri Medvedev has been putting out?

It’s not like they’ve kept mum about it, there’s been 10+ years of them declaring it a red line and yet when they finally do something everyone is acting like it’s a shock.
For Poland, they’ve got the buffer of Belarus, and Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania hardly have an army. As far as I can tell the USA has basically spent the last 20 years or so swinging their dick around daring anyone to do something about it, egging on proxies all over the place, and when a nation has finally stood up they’ve acted like pretty much every bully ever. What a joke it was the US tried to threaten India over not sanctioning Russia!

It’s a damn shame for pretty much everyone. There should’ve been a rapprochement after the end of the soviet union, but I guess it was to convenient to keep Russia as the nominal enemy. Could have used them to help balance thing against China, but too late now.

Eh, guess I’ll go back to cynicism. We really are governed by idiots.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
June 17, 2022 5:29 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
June 17, 2022 at 4:47 pm

[Re John Quiggin]
Uses numbers to explain why his last predictions were fucked

Indeed.

Has Quiggin ever been right about anything?

He was one of the mental dwarves who signed an open letter in 1996 declaring that Howard/Costello’s policies would plunge Australia into a decade of misery for ordinary Australians.
By my observations, over that decade tradies upgraded from “The Castle” style houses to McMansions, among numerous other lifestyle upgrades. If that was misery I’m sure they would have truly loved some joy.

Also, I recall back in the ’90’s Quiggin excreted an opinion piece onto the Fin Rev in which he did some sums purporting to prove that the privatisation was a disaster. Part of his spiel was claiming that the government was going to collect only $X from income tax on Telstra’s profits, compared with getting all the profits while it was government owned.
The problem was that in calculating $X he’d assumed that the 36% company tax paid by Telstra wouldn’t be a net receipt for the government because it would be available as franking credits to shareholders, so he assumed that only the topup tax was an actual net receipt. (Note, this was the days before franking credits were refundable.)
I wrote to the Fin Rev pointing out that Quiggin’s numbers simply didn’t work if one made the correct assumption that the government got 36% plus topup tax and kept both.
That prompted a huff and puff bluster response from Quiggin claiming that of course he knew how franking worked. He didn’t, though, offer an iota of explanation about why his numbers simply didn’t work. Not one single integer sullied the purity of his denial of self-beclownment, it was all just unicorns and goalpost shifting.

cohenite
June 17, 2022 5:32 pm

Senator Hanson thanked voters in Queensland for supporting her bid to represent them for another term.

“It has been a considerable challenge for One Nation to field more than 160 candidates in lower and upper house seats across Australia,” she said. “It would not have been possible without the great support from our members, supporters and volunteers.

There’s the problem: over-reach. Instead of focusing on a few winnable seats with really good candidates they go wide and shallow and get nothing with our Pauline barely slipping in by the skin of her fish and chips.

Fat boy did the same and Kelly paid the price; but fat boy did it for different reasons I suspect, although other than ego I have no fucking idea what they are.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 17, 2022 5:37 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 17, 2022 5:39 pm

STOP IT
JUST STOP IT
FOR 2 BLOODY WEEKS TILL IT BURNS OUT!!!
https://althouse.blogspot.com/2022/06/a-sex-party-organizer-in-new-york-asked.html

“A sex party organizer in New York asked invitees to check themselves for lesions before showing up.* And the organizers of the city’s main Pride celebrations…”
“… posted a monkeypox notice Sunday on their Instagram account…

* Because that approach worked so well in the early days of AIDs…

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has retained her seat in the Senate

Fantastic!

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 17, 2022 5:41 pm

Had private cover up to the 3 of my 4 kids .. the quack didn’t turn up for the 3rd one (mid-wife delivered) but still sent the bill ..

A Doctor attend a home birth in New South Wales?
When did this happen?
1925?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Timothy Neilson says: June 17, 2022 at 5:29 pm

Has Quiggin ever been right about anything?

No.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 17, 2022 5:43 pm

There’s the problem: over-reach. Instead of focusing on a few winnable seats with really good candidates they go wide and shallow and get nothing

PH is a grifter.
She only cares if she gets in.
If each candidate can manage 4% of the first preference votes then her party gets about $3 per vote. The failed candidate goes away and the party keeps the cash.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 17, 2022 5:43 pm

One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has retained her seat in the Senate

Fantastic!

Why?
Her achievements in the Senate so far are absolutely zero.

Indolent
Indolent
June 17, 2022 5:44 pm

This is a current interview conducted by George Christensen. If anyone could be said to have a time machine, it’s David Icke. He was describing what is happening now 30 years ago.

David Icke: Fear is the Mind Virus!

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 5:44 pm

Has Quiggin ever been right about anything?

He’s an Antipodean Krugman but less credible.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Zyconoclastsays: June 17, 2022 at 5:43 pm

PH is a grifter.
She only cares if she gets in.
If each candidate can manage 4% of the first preference votes then her party gets about $3 per vote. The failed candidate goes away and the party keeps the cash.

This is different to the ALP…. how?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 17, 2022 5:50 pm

He’s an Antipodean Krugman but less credible.

The Grauniad should give Quiggers a weekly column like the Slimes did for Krug.
It would be a lot of fun!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 17, 2022 5:51 pm

It’s a damn shame for pretty much everyone. There should’ve been a rapprochement after the end of the soviet union,

And you assume that the poor Russians would never retain the aggressively imperialistic elements of their character, having been humbled at least three times over in the last 150 years in their attempts to form and keep an empire?

There’s a reason all the old Warsaw Pact satellite states sought mutual alliance with western Europe and the US. They didn’t and don’t want to go through it all again.

But it’s all America’s fault, isn’t it?

Ukraine wanted into the EU. The 2004-05 Orange Revolution was about the EU. The Maidan protests, the Russian threats to Viktor Yanukovych to withdraw the formal membership application, the popular protests that ensued and Russia’s subsequent annexation of fhe Crimea and Donbass were all and solely all about EU Membership. Not NATO.

Vlad got a de facto NATO army on his doorstep by default once he sent his Little Green Men into the Crimea, and then started pushing his army into Ukrainian territory through the annexed regions. And Ukraine asked Europe for help.

So all the bullshit thrown around in the last 5-6 years about NATO in Russia’s backyard being a ‘red line’ is exactly that. A post-facto justification thrown up with just enough truthiness to play into most Western folks’ latent suspicion of the biggest power on the block.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2022 5:55 pm

The Grauniad should give Quiggers a weekly column like the Slimes did for Krug.
It would be a lot of fun!

I laughed so much I went broke.

miltonf
miltonf
June 17, 2022 5:57 pm

As far as I am concerned, after the way Pauline has been treated (including being imprisoned) nothing is to good for her. She’s also had the guts to call it as she sees it and has actually had a real job- a rarity in Canbra.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 17, 2022 5:58 pm

I think this could be a coded message…that something just might be attached to the front of these critters that Mr Xi really really wouldn’t like.

Taiwan Touts “Ability To Attack Beijing” With Supersonic Cruise Missiles (17 Jun)

Taiwan officials are now touting that they possess an advanced cruise missile which is capable of hitting locations on the Chinese mainland, which could be launched as a counter-strike in the event of a Chinese military invasion of the island.

You Si Kun, President of Taiwan’s Legislative Assembly, recently said in a media interview that Taiwan’s military wouldn’t shy away from using its Yun Feng supersonic cruise missiles if under direct invasion threat. “Yung Fend missiles can already hit Beijing, and Taiwan has the ability to attack Beijing,” You said, as cited in Liberty Times Net, and further described in Fox News.

Taiwan has had a serious nuclear industry for over fifty years, and it’s thought by some people that the mysterious detonation in the Southern Ocean was a joint test between them, RSA and Israel.

cohenite
June 17, 2022 6:00 pm

PH is a grifter.
She only cares if she gets in.
If each candidate can manage 4% of the first preference votes then her party gets about $3 per vote. The failed candidate goes away and the party keeps the cash.

I’m sure she’s aware of the 4% largesse but I don’t think she’s a grifter. Her hearts in the right place but she’s not smart enough to be a grifter; and that’s not a bad thing for a pollie but her candidate selection is appalling. Roberts and Latham are the only decent ones.

bespoke
bespoke
June 17, 2022 6:00 pm

Quiggin

Chuckle!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 17, 2022 6:00 pm

We expect enemies to lie to us, it is the only thing you can trust. Government have become the enemy. If they didn’t have the power of State behind them they would be the most craven cowards ever. I know, a double negative but I could use every meaning of cowardly behaviour and they are worse. The contempt I have for them is indescribable.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 6:01 pm

From the sidebar:

“Socialism always attacks 3 basic social institutions: religion, the family, & private property. Religion, because it offers a rival authority to the state; the family, because it means a rival loyalty to the state; & property, because it means material independence of the state”

Joseph Sobran

Liberty Quote, I’d suggest dover.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 17, 2022 6:03 pm

Captain James Cook’s name will no longer appear on the trophy that England and Australia play for in Test matches. The crystal Cook Cup is to be retired and will be replaced by the Ella-Mobbs Trophy.

The RFU and Rugby Australia have agreed to “better represent” the history of both nations after Cook became a divisive figure down under.

The new trophy – named after the great Wallabies fly half Mark Ella and the English war hero Edgar Mobbs – will be unveiled in Perth on July 1, the eve of the first Test of England’s summer tour to Australia.

Ella, a former team-mate of the England head coach Eddie Jones, won 25 caps between 1980 and 1984 as an Indigenous Australian – only the second to captain his country – and is revered as one of the great No 10s of his age.

Mobbs, a brilliant three-quarter who played seven times for England, captaining them in his final game in 1910, was killed at the third battle of Ypres at Passchendaele during the First World War in 1917 when part of the “Sportsman’s Battalion”, which he had formed.

He led 264 men from the 7th Battalion, Northamptonshire Regiment in three battles.

Cook, the Royal Navy captain and British explorer, is credited with the discovery of Australia in the 18th century.

Sky News host Chris Kenny says rebranding the Cook Cup to the Ella-Mobbs Cup is “another manifestation of… cancel culture”. “Are we trying to write Captain James Cook out of history?”, Mr Kenny asked. “We’ve seen his statue vandalised of course, and other protests. “Tradition is tradition because More

But his statue in Melbourne has been vandalised, including during January’s Australia Day celebrations, with protesters painting it red in scenes akin to the defacing and toppling of Victorian monuments in Britain. Those protesters feel such figures represent an oppressive age of the British Empire.

The trophy played for in Tests between England and Australia has been known as the Cook Cup for the past 25 years.

“The Wallabies’ eToro England series will see a new trophy introduced for all future series between the nations,” an RFU spokesman confirmed.

“Australia and England first played against each other in a Test match in 1909 in London. With such a vast history between them, Rugby Australia and the Rugby Football Union made the decision that the trophy should better represent the proud rugby history of both nations.”

In 113 years of matches between the sides, England lead Australia by 26 wins to 25. They have not lost to their rivals under Jones in eight Tests since 2016.

Oz

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2022 6:07 pm

Cook, the Royal Navy captain and British explorer, is credited with the discovery of Australia in the 18th century.

Umm, the British and Dutch knew all about the West Coast 150 years before Cook went anywhere near Australia. Cook’s achievement was to map the East Coast and claim it for the British Crown.

miltonf
miltonf
June 17, 2022 6:09 pm

As I’ve said before, the Ukraine has become a playground, money machine and doormat for the ‘rats and RINOs. They’ve been meddling there since at least 2014.

The ‘rats, RINOs and their pals in the military-industrial complex need a bogie man and Putin gives them one. I don’t condone Russia’s invasion but I can understand their thinking to some extent.

At least the Russians has a pro Russian leader unlike old poo poo pants. Disgusting old grub that he is. The Senator from MBNA.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2022 6:09 pm

John
1 hour ago
I am disappointed a dying sport with it’s mythical self importance missed an opportunity to rename the trophy ‘The Dark Emu Cup’

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 6:10 pm

Sky News host Chris Kenny says rebranding the Cook Cup to the Ella-Mobbs Cup is “another manifestation of… cancel culture”. “Are we trying to write Captain James Cook out of history?

Relax, Chris.

I’d venture to suggest that Rugby Union will disappear from public consciousness long before Captan James Cook RN does.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 17, 2022 6:10 pm

Bon wasn’t that explosion near Kerguelen, which is French. Maybe the French supplied the technology to Taiwan. If it was me I’d do Beijing and the 3 gorges dams, thats chinese manufacturing gone.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2022 6:11 pm

Captain

Cassie of Sydney
June 17, 2022 6:12 pm

“One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has retained her seat in the Senate for a second consecutive term, pledging to hold the new Albanese government to account and work constructively to ensure it puts Australia and Australians first.”

Good news. Adios to Stoker.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 17, 2022 6:16 pm

Looks like the Ukies finally had a win.
Will pumping two ASMs into a tug be as big a game changer
as those 4 early block M270s?

miltonf
miltonf
June 17, 2022 6:17 pm

The contempt I have for them is indescribable.

Same here Ranga- the who really had me fooled was Howard but I was really fooling myself I suppose. His closeness to Trumble and comments about Trump really gave the game away.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 17, 2022 6:20 pm

A clip from Joe Rogan with a guy who was on the ground getting people out of Kabul.
It will take a decade for the horror to be fully reported.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEHXfB8wwGk

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 17, 2022 6:21 pm

If each candidate can manage 4% of the first preference votes then her party gets about $3 per vote. The failed candidate goes away and the party keeps the cash.

They did change the rules a little where parties or individuals can only claim back what they spent in election expenses.

Im sure it completely gamed by the uniparties but its probably why Tony Winsor didnt throw his hat into the ring again.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 17, 2022 6:22 pm

The trophy played for in Tests between England and Australia has been known as the Cook Cup for the past 25 years.

How could they have overlooked 40,000 years of national rugby competitions in Australia? Prof. Pascoe should cover these in his next book. I like data, so I’m especially looking forward to the tabulated for and against stats.

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