1,910 thoughts on “Open Thread – Tues 14 June 2022”

  1. Trees ….. natures energy bank – Even when they are fossilised Coal

    The Fantastically Strange Origin of Most Coal on Earth

    Instead, trunks and branches would fall on top of each other, and the weight of all that heavy wood would eventually compress those trees into peat and then, over time, into coal. Had those bacteria been around devouring wood, they’d have broken carbon bonds, releasing carbon and oxygen into the air, but instead the carbon stayed in the wood.

    We’re talking about a spectacular amount of carbon. Biochemist Nick Lane guesses that the rate of coal formation back then was 600 times the normal rate. Ward and Kirschvink say that 90 percent—yup, 90 percent!—of the coal we burn today (and the coal dust we see flying about Beijing and New Delhi) comes from that single geological period, the Carboniferous period.

    That’s why it’s called “carboniferous”—because it produced so much carbon. “The Carboniferous period was the time of forest burial on a spectacular scale,” the writers say.


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  2. The US got around to admitting they were funding them, but they were innocuous. Honest. Trust us. Would we ever lie to you?

    Yes. All remnants of the old Soviet Biopreparat.

    And the vatniks creamed their pants about Ermagerd, NATO/Nazi/UkroNazi biowerrrperrrrnz!!1! Git ‘um, Vlad! a few weeks before the tanks started rolling. Then it suddenly went quiet when the Kiev campaign went sour.

    Then it abruptly and clumsily resurfaced for a week after the Moskva suffered a sudden (And, as it turned out, irreversible) catastrophic loss of bouyancy and a punch-drunk and demoralised Russian Army refocussed itself on trying to claim parts of the Donbass it had been repeatedly repulsed from and denied for over 8 years. And then went quiet again.

    So yeah. Paradoxical as it sounds, I’m a bit more inclined to listen to them despite the lies elsewhere. Because the reality of such things would be far more persistent than TrUsTeD SoUrCeS would be able to quash or counter-narrative into submission. The information environment we move in since 2016 and particularly since November 3, 2020 should have convinced you of that…


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  3. Victoriastan really is another country.

    That was made evident to me last time I was in Melbourne and caught a train to the conference venue.


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  4. Public transport anywhere during the day is an experience.

    Not one I’d partaken of in years.

    I decided to stay with my bil & sil in the suburbs as they were close to the train which took me within a block of the inner city venue .


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  5. Frolics it makes you wonder if left ever pay for anything themselves that hasn’t been taken from someone else. Every day economists prove they know nothing except a few. I made a comparison to a mate recently of accountants and weather versus economists and climate.


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  6. Then it abruptly and clumsily resurfaced for a week after the Moskva suffered a sudden (And, as it turned out, irreversible) catastrophic loss of bouyancy and a punch-drunk and demoralised Russian Army refocussed itself on trying to claim parts of the Donbass it had been repeatedly repulsed from and denied for over 8 years. And then went quiet again.

    Actually, the Russians’ trumpeted accusations back in April that those dratted Ukronazis had spent the last 2 years pre-invasion spreading incurable, biolab-grown tuberculosis amongst the children of the Luhansk Peoples’ Republic through contaminated banknotes would constitute an excellent deflection from any and all failures of the LPR’s leadership and their colonial masters in Moscow, to deliver even basic healthcare services to their people.

    Particularly as drug-resistant TB has been endemic in eastern Ukraine’s poorer and less nourished population for several decades.

    The Propaganda always has a purpose…


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  7. most of them don’t arrive in time anyway apart from presenting the bill
    Had private cover up to the 3 of my 4 kids .. the quack didn’t turn up for the 3rd one (mid-wife delivered) but still sent the bill .. never paid it and dropped cover (apart from ambulance) after that! ..
    never a problem with public/Medicare since then, 1985 .. tho no idea how other folk have fared since BAT FLU .. I haven’t needed any medical attention in the last 10 years ..


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  8. Rex Angersays:
    June 17, 2022 at 5:04 pm
    The US got around to admitting they were funding them, but they were innocuous. Honest. Trust us. Would we ever lie to you?

    Yes. All remnants of the old Soviet Biopreparat.

    And the vatniks creamed their pants about Ermagerd, NATO/Nazi/UkroNazi biowerrrperrrrnz!!1! Git ‘um, Vlad! a few weeks before the tanks started rolling. Then it suddenly went quiet when the Kiev campaign went sour.

    Then it abruptly and clumsily resurfaced for a week after the Moskva suffered a sudden (And, as it turned out, irreversible) catastrophic loss of bouyancy and a punch-drunk and demoralised Russian Army refocussed itself on trying to claim parts of the Donbass it had been repeatedly repulsed from and denied for over 8 years. And then went quiet again.

    So yeah. Paradoxical as it sounds, I’m a bit more inclined to listen to them despite the lies elsewhere. Because the reality of such things would be far more persistent than TrUsTeD SoUrCeS would be able to quash or counter-narrative into submission. The information environment we move in since 2016 and particularly since November 3, 2020 should have convinced you of that…

    Think the Russians did a presentation to the UN about the labs, but I’ve not been able to find anything about it.
    Honestly, the main thing that annoys me is there seems to be the assumption Russia isn’t allowed to have their own interests, particularly national security. We wouldn’t be happy to have China park a small army in Indonesia, why the hell is it assumed Russia won’t have a problem with NATO right on their border, particularly now they’ve recovered from the disaster of the 90’s. The idea it’s only Putin that has a problem with it is a joke. As far as I can tell he’s about the most moderate option these days, exacerbated by the sanctions recently. Have you seen the stuff Dimitri Medvedev has been putting out?

    It’s not like they’ve kept mum about it, there’s been 10+ years of them declaring it a red line and yet when they finally do something everyone is acting like it’s a shock.
    For Poland, they’ve got the buffer of Belarus, and Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania hardly have an army. As far as I can tell the USA has basically spent the last 20 years or so swinging their dick around daring anyone to do something about it, egging on proxies all over the place, and when a nation has finally stood up they’ve acted like pretty much every bully ever. What a joke it was the US tried to threaten India over not sanctioning Russia!

    It’s a damn shame for pretty much everyone. There should’ve been a rapprochement after the end of the soviet union, but I guess it was to convenient to keep Russia as the nominal enemy. Could have used them to help balance thing against China, but too late now.

    Eh, guess I’ll go back to cynicism. We really are governed by idiots.


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  9. thefrollickingmolesays:
    June 17, 2022 at 4:47 pm

    [Re John Quiggin]
    Uses numbers to explain why his last predictions were fucked

    Indeed.

    Has Quiggin ever been right about anything?

    He was one of the mental dwarves who signed an open letter in 1996 declaring that Howard/Costello’s policies would plunge Australia into a decade of misery for ordinary Australians.
    By my observations, over that decade tradies upgraded from “The Castle” style houses to McMansions, among numerous other lifestyle upgrades. If that was misery I’m sure they would have truly loved some joy.

    Also, I recall back in the ’90’s Quiggin excreted an opinion piece onto the Fin Rev in which he did some sums purporting to prove that the privatisation was a disaster. Part of his spiel was claiming that the government was going to collect only $X from income tax on Telstra’s profits, compared with getting all the profits while it was government owned.
    The problem was that in calculating $X he’d assumed that the 36% company tax paid by Telstra wouldn’t be a net receipt for the government because it would be available as franking credits to shareholders, so he assumed that only the topup tax was an actual net receipt. (Note, this was the days before franking credits were refundable.)
    I wrote to the Fin Rev pointing out that Quiggin’s numbers simply didn’t work if one made the correct assumption that the government got 36% plus topup tax and kept both.
    That prompted a huff and puff bluster response from Quiggin claiming that of course he knew how franking worked. He didn’t, though, offer an iota of explanation about why his numbers simply didn’t work. Not one single integer sullied the purity of his denial of self-beclownment, it was all just unicorns and goalpost shifting.


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  10. Senator Hanson thanked voters in Queensland for supporting her bid to represent them for another term.

    “It has been a considerable challenge for One Nation to field more than 160 candidates in lower and upper house seats across Australia,” she said. “It would not have been possible without the great support from our members, supporters and volunteers.

    There’s the problem: over-reach. Instead of focusing on a few winnable seats with really good candidates they go wide and shallow and get nothing with our Pauline barely slipping in by the skin of her fish and chips.

    Fat boy did the same and Kelly paid the price; but fat boy did it for different reasons I suspect, although other than ego I have no fucking idea what they are.


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  11. STOP IT
    JUST STOP IT
    FOR 2 BLOODY WEEKS TILL IT BURNS OUT!!!
    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2022/06/a-sex-party-organizer-in-new-york-asked.html

    “A sex party organizer in New York asked invitees to check themselves for lesions before showing up.* And the organizers of the city’s main Pride celebrations…”
    “… posted a monkeypox notice Sunday on their Instagram account…

    * Because that approach worked so well in the early days of AIDs…


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  12. One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has retained her seat in the Senate

    Fantastic!


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  13. Had private cover up to the 3 of my 4 kids .. the quack didn’t turn up for the 3rd one (mid-wife delivered) but still sent the bill ..

    A Doctor attend a home birth in New South Wales?
    When did this happen?
    1925?


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  14. Timothy Neilson says: June 17, 2022 at 5:29 pm

    Has Quiggin ever been right about anything?

    No.


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  15. There’s the problem: over-reach. Instead of focusing on a few winnable seats with really good candidates they go wide and shallow and get nothing

    PH is a grifter.
    She only cares if she gets in.
    If each candidate can manage 4% of the first preference votes then her party gets about $3 per vote. The failed candidate goes away and the party keeps the cash.


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  16. One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has retained her seat in the Senate

    Fantastic!

    Why?
    Her achievements in the Senate so far are absolutely zero.


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  17. Zyconoclastsays: June 17, 2022 at 5:43 pm

    PH is a grifter.
    She only cares if she gets in.
    If each candidate can manage 4% of the first preference votes then her party gets about $3 per vote. The failed candidate goes away and the party keeps the cash.

    This is different to the ALP…. how?


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  18. He’s an Antipodean Krugman but less credible.

    The Grauniad should give Quiggers a weekly column like the Slimes did for Krug.
    It would be a lot of fun!


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  19. It’s a damn shame for pretty much everyone. There should’ve been a rapprochement after the end of the soviet union,

    And you assume that the poor Russians would never retain the aggressively imperialistic elements of their character, having been humbled at least three times over in the last 150 years in their attempts to form and keep an empire?

    There’s a reason all the old Warsaw Pact satellite states sought mutual alliance with western Europe and the US. They didn’t and don’t want to go through it all again.

    But it’s all America’s fault, isn’t it?

    Ukraine wanted into the EU. The 2004-05 Orange Revolution was about the EU. The Maidan protests, the Russian threats to Viktor Yanukovych to withdraw the formal membership application, the popular protests that ensued and Russia’s subsequent annexation of fhe Crimea and Donbass were all and solely all about EU Membership. Not NATO.

    Vlad got a de facto NATO army on his doorstep by default once he sent his Little Green Men into the Crimea, and then started pushing his army into Ukrainian territory through the annexed regions. And Ukraine asked Europe for help.

    So all the bullshit thrown around in the last 5-6 years about NATO in Russia’s backyard being a ‘red line’ is exactly that. A post-facto justification thrown up with just enough truthiness to play into most Western folks’ latent suspicion of the biggest power on the block.


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  20. The Grauniad should give Quiggers a weekly column like the Slimes did for Krug.
    It would be a lot of fun!

    I laughed so much I went broke.


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  21. As far as I am concerned, after the way Pauline has been treated (including being imprisoned) nothing is to good for her. She’s also had the guts to call it as she sees it and has actually had a real job- a rarity in Canbra.


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  22. I think this could be a coded message…that something just might be attached to the front of these critters that Mr Xi really really wouldn’t like.

    Taiwan Touts “Ability To Attack Beijing” With Supersonic Cruise Missiles (17 Jun)

    Taiwan officials are now touting that they possess an advanced cruise missile which is capable of hitting locations on the Chinese mainland, which could be launched as a counter-strike in the event of a Chinese military invasion of the island.

    You Si Kun, President of Taiwan’s Legislative Assembly, recently said in a media interview that Taiwan’s military wouldn’t shy away from using its Yun Feng supersonic cruise missiles if under direct invasion threat. “Yung Fend missiles can already hit Beijing, and Taiwan has the ability to attack Beijing,” You said, as cited in Liberty Times Net, and further described in Fox News.

    Taiwan has had a serious nuclear industry for over fifty years, and it’s thought by some people that the mysterious detonation in the Southern Ocean was a joint test between them, RSA and Israel.


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  23. So all the bullshit thrown around in the last 5-6 years about NATO in Russia’s backyard being a ‘red line’ is exactly that. A post-facto justification thrown up with just enough truthiness to play into most Western folks’ latent suspicion of the biggest power on the block.

    That is utter rubbish. You can quote people from the 1990s onwards saying precisely that. Here is a collection.


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  24. PH is a grifter.
    She only cares if she gets in.
    If each candidate can manage 4% of the first preference votes then her party gets about $3 per vote. The failed candidate goes away and the party keeps the cash.

    I’m sure she’s aware of the 4% largesse but I don’t think she’s a grifter. Her hearts in the right place but she’s not smart enough to be a grifter; and that’s not a bad thing for a pollie but her candidate selection is appalling. Roberts and Latham are the only decent ones.


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  25. We expect enemies to lie to us, it is the only thing you can trust. Government have become the enemy. If they didn’t have the power of State behind them they would be the most craven cowards ever. I know, a double negative but I could use every meaning of cowardly behaviour and they are worse. The contempt I have for them is indescribable.


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  26. From the sidebar:

    “Socialism always attacks 3 basic social institutions: religion, the family, & private property. Religion, because it offers a rival authority to the state; the family, because it means a rival loyalty to the state; & property, because it means material independence of the state”

    Joseph Sobran

    Liberty Quote, I’d suggest dover.


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  27. Captain James Cook’s name will no longer appear on the trophy that England and Australia play for in Test matches. The crystal Cook Cup is to be retired and will be replaced by the Ella-Mobbs Trophy.

    The RFU and Rugby Australia have agreed to “better represent” the history of both nations after Cook became a divisive figure down under.

    The new trophy – named after the great Wallabies fly half Mark Ella and the English war hero Edgar Mobbs – will be unveiled in Perth on July 1, the eve of the first Test of England’s summer tour to Australia.

    Ella, a former team-mate of the England head coach Eddie Jones, won 25 caps between 1980 and 1984 as an Indigenous Australian – only the second to captain his country – and is revered as one of the great No 10s of his age.

    Mobbs, a brilliant three-quarter who played seven times for England, captaining them in his final game in 1910, was killed at the third battle of Ypres at Passchendaele during the First World War in 1917 when part of the “Sportsman’s Battalion”, which he had formed.

    He led 264 men from the 7th Battalion, Northamptonshire Regiment in three battles.

    Cook, the Royal Navy captain and British explorer, is credited with the discovery of Australia in the 18th century.

    Sky News host Chris Kenny says rebranding the Cook Cup to the Ella-Mobbs Cup is “another manifestation of… cancel culture”. “Are we trying to write Captain James Cook out of history?”, Mr Kenny asked. “We’ve seen his statue vandalised of course, and other protests. “Tradition is tradition because More

    But his statue in Melbourne has been vandalised, including during January’s Australia Day celebrations, with protesters painting it red in scenes akin to the defacing and toppling of Victorian monuments in Britain. Those protesters feel such figures represent an oppressive age of the British Empire.

    The trophy played for in Tests between England and Australia has been known as the Cook Cup for the past 25 years.

    “The Wallabies’ eToro England series will see a new trophy introduced for all future series between the nations,” an RFU spokesman confirmed.

    “Australia and England first played against each other in a Test match in 1909 in London. With such a vast history between them, Rugby Australia and the Rugby Football Union made the decision that the trophy should better represent the proud rugby history of both nations.”

    In 113 years of matches between the sides, England lead Australia by 26 wins to 25. They have not lost to their rivals under Jones in eight Tests since 2016.

    Oz


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  28. Cook, the Royal Navy captain and British explorer, is credited with the discovery of Australia in the 18th century.

    Umm, the British and Dutch knew all about the West Coast 150 years before Cook went anywhere near Australia. Cook’s achievement was to map the East Coast and claim it for the British Crown.


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  29. As I’ve said before, the Ukraine has become a playground, money machine and doormat for the ‘rats and RINOs. They’ve been meddling there since at least 2014.

    The ‘rats, RINOs and their pals in the military-industrial complex need a bogie man and Putin gives them one. I don’t condone Russia’s invasion but I can understand their thinking to some extent.

    At least the Russians has a pro Russian leader unlike old poo poo pants. Disgusting old grub that he is. The Senator from MBNA.


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  30. John
    1 hour ago
    I am disappointed a dying sport with it’s mythical self importance missed an opportunity to rename the trophy ‘The Dark Emu Cup’



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  31. Sky News host Chris Kenny says rebranding the Cook Cup to the Ella-Mobbs Cup is “another manifestation of… cancel culture”. “Are we trying to write Captain James Cook out of history?

    Relax, Chris.

    I’d venture to suggest that Rugby Union will disappear from public consciousness long before Captan James Cook RN does.


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  32. Bon wasn’t that explosion near Kerguelen, which is French. Maybe the French supplied the technology to Taiwan. If it was me I’d do Beijing and the 3 gorges dams, thats chinese manufacturing gone.


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  33. “One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has retained her seat in the Senate for a second consecutive term, pledging to hold the new Albanese government to account and work constructively to ensure it puts Australia and Australians first.”

    Good news. Adios to Stoker.


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  34. The contempt I have for them is indescribable.

    Same here Ranga- the who really had me fooled was Howard but I was really fooling myself I suppose. His closeness to Trumble and comments about Trump really gave the game away.


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  35. If each candidate can manage 4% of the first preference votes then her party gets about $3 per vote. The failed candidate goes away and the party keeps the cash.

    They did change the rules a little where parties or individuals can only claim back what they spent in election expenses.

    Im sure it completely gamed by the uniparties but its probably why Tony Winsor didnt throw his hat into the ring again.


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  36. The trophy played for in Tests between England and Australia has been known as the Cook Cup for the past 25 years.

    How could they have overlooked 40,000 years of national rugby competitions in Australia? Prof. Pascoe should cover these in his next book. I like data, so I’m especially looking forward to the tabulated for and against stats.


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  37. That is utter rubbish. You can quote people from the 1990s onwards saying precisely that.

    Well isn’t it remarkable then, that after 5 years of de facto Russian invasion and occupation, Ukraine made the first moves to seek membership. They sought NATO. NATO had not sought them.

    Think about it- Ukraine could have entered the EU in 2014 and never have changed its 2010 law forbidding NATO membership and maintaining its non-aligned status. But Vlad had to keep control.

    Those poor Russians brought about their own ‘Red Line’ moment themselves by their own attitudes and behaviour.


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  38. Looks like the Ukies finally had a win.

    Lots of tooing and froing around Snake Island in the last month or so. I know of about four Russian vessels sunk or heavily damaged (with video from drones). The Russians have been working very hard to get AA tracks in place and the Ukrainians have been working equally hard destroying them. The location is far enough from core Russian air assets that the Ukie air force has been doing missions, plus of course those Turkish stealth drones and ASMs.

    It all suggests Russia has a serious strategy for which the island is a keystone. I don’t know what the strategy is, but the combat over it has been pretty intense.


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  39. “Sky News host Chris Kenny says rebranding the Cook Cup to the Ella-Mobbs Cup is “another manifestation of… cancel culture”. “Are we trying to write Captain James Cook out of history?”

    In Paddington Sydney, right near Moore Park, there’s a hotel which was once called, until 2020, the Captain Cook Hotel. After the death of that all round sleaze bucket and porn star in Minneapolis back in 2020, when the whole world went barking mad, and there were BLM marches here in Sydney at the height of a so called Covid lockdown, and a so called Liberal government, NSW police and MSM all chose to look the other way….. because as you all know there’s one rule for the left and lots of rules for the rest of us, there was a lot of grotesque self flagellation about waaacism and statues, particularly of Captain James Cook and a statue of Cook in Sydney’s Hyde Park was subsequently vandalised by some Green staffers (who work for a rather nasty Greens politician by the name of David Shoebridge). These two Green staffers were, of course, given a slight slap on the hand by the judiciary for their vandalism but, I digress. The owners of the Captain Cook hotel in Paddington, who you’d think in a time of Covid lockdowns would have better things to concentrate on decided, in a touching display of anti-waaaacism, to rename their hotel to the “Captain’s Hotel”. LOL, anyway, you have to laugh because on one side of the hotel is a huge painted mural of Robert Hawke drinking beer, because as we know, Hawke loved a beer. So the proprietors of the hotel, in July 2020, due to hysteria about all things waaacist, removed the name of Captain James Cook, who was perhaps the world’s greatest mariner, and who was by all accounts a fundamentally decent and good man, yet they’ve left up a huge mural of Robert Hawke, serial adulterer and philanderer, serial sex addict, and who possessed a host of other unsavoury character defects.

    Captain James Cook = bad. Robert Hawke = good.

    Clown world.


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  40. “I share the sentiment, but she’d have been preferable to time server James McGrath.”

    True, but I have no expectations of McGrath whereas I expected better of Stoker, particularly over the egregious Arndt episode. She should have walked rather than support that infamous motion.


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  41. It all suggests Russia has a serious strategy for which the island is a keystone. I don’t know what the strategy is, but the combat over it has been pretty intense.

    Snake Island is a strategically critical point for dominating the air and sea approaches to western Ukraine and the western half of the Black Sea. It allows them to interdict Ukrainian air operations where they hitherto have been untouchable, protect their naval assets (particularly important post-Moskva and easier to bombard Western Ukraine than at present.


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  42. Yes Hawke was a loathsome little man and I don’t know why so many give him a free pass.

    Labor royalty.

    If Captain James Cook had been a good Party man, all the excuses in the world would be made on his behalf…


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  43. True, but I have no expectations of McGrath whereas I expected better of Stoker, particularly over the egregious Arndt episode. She should have walked rather than support that infamous motion.

    The key with politicians is to keep your expectations low.

    That way you’re pleasantly suprised when they do the right thing.

    That being said, I hope she enjoys conveyancing, as it would appear to be her future.


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  44. Rex – I was surmising to myself it might be about supporting the three battalions in Transshitistan. You have to wonder when the Ukies and Moldova get fed up with that place and do something about it.

    Regarding sea access to Odessa apparently the Turks have negotiated some sort of deal for grain shipments. I doubt it will happen, but the vibes and diplomatic wrangling are interesting.

    Turkey says Ukraine grain ships could avoid mines, Russia offers safe passage (Reuters, 16 Jun)


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  45. Yes Hawke was a loathsome little man and I don’t know why so many give him a free pass.

    I despised all the fake “Ocker” bullshit.


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  46. Same for me Miltonf. The middle class welfare did it for me. I sill think he was best for the last 30 odd years but, and a Gillard size butt, the bar is so low a snakes belly is higher.


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  47. You have to go back a long way to find a UK Labour leader that didn’t go to a fancy pants school.
    Saying they are the party of the working class is pure myth.


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  48. Rex – I was surmising to myself it might be about supporting the three battalions in Transshitistan. You have to wonder when the Ukies and Moldova get fed up with that place and do something about it.

    I suspect the best practice would be let them wither on the vine there.

    But having a fortified island to protect ships supplying them from any conceivable Moldovan, Ukrainian or other threat would make sense.


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  49. Was there ever a working Class Labour Leader?

    haha, don’t be silly.
    Anyhow, i’ve googoogoogled Lionel James Callaghan, who mighta gone fairly close, and found this on the Labour Party’s win at the 1964 Election after 13 years out of Office:

    The new Labour government under Harold Wilson immediately faced economic problems; … and an immediate sterling crisis. Both Wilson and Callaghan took a strong stance against devaluation of sterling, partly due to the perception that the devaluation carried out by the previous Labour government in 1949 had contributed to that government’s downfall.

    The alternative to devaluation, however, was a series of austerity measures designed to reduce demand in the economy in order to reduce imports, and to stabilise the balance of payments and the value of sterling.

    Just ten days after taking up his post, Callaghan immediately introduced a 15% surcharge on imports, with the exception of foodstuffs and raw materials. This measure was intended to tackle the balance of payments deficit; however, it caused an uproar amongst Britain’s international trading partners.

    The outcry was so intense that it caused the government to announce that the surcharge was a temporary measure. Callaghan later admitted in his autobiography that he could have handled the matter better, and in his haste to tackle the balance of payments problem, had failed to consult foreign governments.

    On 11 November, Callaghan gave his first budget and announced increases in income tax, petrol tax and the introduction of a new capital gains tax, actions which most economists deemed necessary to take the heat out of the balance and sterling deficit. In line with Labour’s manifesto commitments, the budget also contained social measures to increase the state pension and the widows pension; measures which were disliked by the City and speculators, causing a run on the pound.

    On 23 November, it was decided to increase the bank rate from 2% to 7%, which generated a large amount of criticism.

    In other words, Britain went from stability to utter fucking chaos in ten days.
    By the way, Callaghan’s story of his early life isn’t too different to Albanese’s.


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  50. Cassie of Sydney says:
    June 17, 2022 at 7:17 pm

    “One thing I do know about the conflict in Eastern Europe is that Australia should stay right out of it.”

    Look, Russia attacked Ukraine as a massive land grab. No, I’m not sure we should stay out of it at all.

    The Oligarch in chief needs to be taught a lesson as he’s making threats every day.


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  51. On 11 November, Callaghan gave his first budget and announced increases in income tax, petrol tax and the introduction of a new capital gains tax, actions which most economists deemed necessary to take the heat out of the balance and sterling deficit.

    Taking the heat out of the Economy by soaking the workers, eh?

    Funny how the Coalition never has to take the heat out of the economy, just Labo[u]r Governments.


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  52. I despised all the fake “Ocker” bullshit.

    It’s depressing that he fooled so many. My grandfather called him ‘an egotistical rabble rouser’ . The proto uni-unionist too. Why get your hands dirty on the shop floor when you can slide in through a desk job. Destroyed so many forest and manufacturing jobs and only seemed concerned about himself by the time Keating was coming after him in 1991. Sickening is an understatement. At least the truth was finally fully on display.


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  53. “No, I’m not sure we should stay out of it at all.

    The Oligarch in chief needs to be taught a lesson as he’s making threats every day.”

    JC, what do you propose? I don’t condone the invasion, it’s a disaster for both Ukraine and Russia and particularly Ukraine. But I have been wondering, where’s the shuttle diplomacy? Where are the peacemakers trying to broker peace? Nothing. Why? There’s needs to be a cessation of hostilities and yet I’ve seen nothing, absolutely nothing in three months. Where is the UN passing motions? I don’t want this escalating and I think we should keep out of it.

    First a caveat, I’m not accusing you of this because you’re not a moron but there’s this simplistic nonsense being parroted by morons that Putin should be gotten rid of. Apart from the fact that such nonsense is laughable, it’s also extremely dangerous. I know Russian history, what comes after bad is very bad and what comes after very bad is very, very bad. Macron knows this and despite his Napoleonic tendencies, he was right a week or two ago when he said that Europe needs to temper and fix this problem between Ukraine and Russia…in other words the USA and the corrupt Bidet administration need to stay out of it.


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  54. Today I learned that 65% of all gun deaths in the US are suicide.

    I expect there aren’t that many unsuccessful attempts either. An issue for farmers here and their families here.


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  55. I’m sure she’s aware of the 4% largesse but I don’t think she’s a grifter. Her hearts in the right place but she’s not smart enough to be a grifter; and that’s not a bad thing for a pollie but her candidate selection is appalling. Roberts and Latham are the only decent ones.

    Not just decent, they are both in their own way truly outstanding. Malcolm Roberts is like a breath of fresh air and Latham can show up the lies and hypocrisy we’re bombarded with like no other.


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  56. Gabor says: June 16, 2022 at 10:57 pm

    Judging by the number of staff you are employing, you must be running a Hilton on steroids.
    Or the turnover is such that you spend most of the day interviewing new employees.
    Amazing.

    Umm.. … yeah.
    To unpack that:
    Judging by the number of staff you are employing
    Do tell. How many staff am I employing?

    you must be running a Hilton on steroids.
    Any reason I would not be?

    Or the turnover is such that you spend most of the day interviewing new employees.
    Ah, the eternal quest.
    This takes up probably 30% of the boss’ time, even though staff turnover here is considerably below (i.e. one-third of) industry average.


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  57. Not sure what history will make of Hawke. He was a highly flawed man but lead a good, possibly great, government. The Lieborals may have done many of the same things, we will never know.


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  58. But I have been wondering, where’s the shuttle diplomacy?

    Good question. It’s almost is if these degenerates in Washington are rather pleased that this war is happening.


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  59. the rain doesn’t always fall either, but we manage to store the water

    Actually, we don’t manage to store the water. It’s people like Bowen who try to stop the building of new dams to utilise the massive amounts of water that falls on Australia’s east coast – we are not short of water just the means to store it, which could be solved some investment in dams sans greenies.

    We have a mouldering desalination plant in Sydney right now thanks to the green loonies who had convinced themselves the rain would never fall again.


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  60. feelthebernsays:
    June 17, 2022 at 7:15 pm
    Today I learned that 65% of all gun deaths in the US are suicide.

    Take those away from the total, take away the very many gangbangers killed in inner-city stoushes, and what is the gun death rate in the US?


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  61. the rain doesn’t always fall either, but we manage to store the water

    It is almost incredible that the dickhead had a go at equating the two.
    These idiots are dumber than we realised.


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  62. Take those away from the total, take away the very many gangbangers killed in inner-city stoushes, and what is the gun death rate in the US?

    Even without doing that, just removing Four cities, Detroit, Chicago, DC, & New Orleans, (i.e. leaving NYC & LA still in the statistics) the USA moves up to roughly on a par with northern Europe.


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  63. The business cycle was an accepted reality in the 80s. In Australia we have been spared by China, easy debt and weak monetary policy, each of which is about to go into reverse. Let’s have a look at unemployment at the end of this cycle.


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  64. One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has retained her seat in the Senate

    Why did the AEC able to finalise the QLD senate vote before WA? 5.2m vs 2.8m pop’n?


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  65. Oops, I misspoke. Removing those four cities does not put USA on an average of Northern Europe.
    It actually gives USA the 4th lowest gun murder rate in the world.
    Source: The Guardian.


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  66. Gray Connolly
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    Russia will, at worst, come out of this War occupying large parts of resource & agriculture rich eastern Ukraine, even more of the Crimea, and now all the Azov coast …. in ~100 days … cf our 20+ years in the Middle East: all costs, very few benefits.

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    Russia has already ‘strategically lost’ the war for Ukraine, head of Britain’s Armed Forces insist https://trib.al/L4D79aR

    I can’t take the current leaders of the West seriously anymore. Sorry, I just can’t.


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  67. Following Susskind.

    Check it out.

    Dr Mike McCulloch is based!

    https://twitter.com/memcculloch

    He’s actually quite a Greenie (and pro nuke), but he obviously actually believes in civil liberties.

    His other website:

    https://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot.com/

    His latest blog post:

    The Black Hole Information Paradox
    The cosmos, empty space, is known to be full of virtual particles. They appear in pairs to conserve momentum and then recombine after a short while. In 1976 Hawking showed that black hole event horizons can separate these pairs by trapping the one on the wrong side of the horizon. The star-crossed lovers are unable to recombine, so one of them becomes real and is emitted as Hawking radiation. This means that whereas black holes can hoover up information-full objects such as flowers and manuscripts (see below left), they can only emit thermal, random, Hawking radiation (see below right). This means the information in the flower and the manuscripts has been lost.

    Hawking, Kip Thorne and Roger Penrose were perfectly happy to have information destroyed, but Leonard Susskind and Gerard t’Hooft published a manuscript called The Black Hole War saying that Hawking was violating one of the laws of the universe: the conservation of information. Since when has that been a law? They argued that in quantum mechanics the wavefunction at any one time is supposed to be predictable from the wavefunction at any other time and if you lose information then you can’t do that. You lose what they call the unitarity of the wavefunction. They suggested that the information that goes into the black hole survives and proposed the holographic principle which says that information is stored in horizons (a nice idea). Hawking conceded he had lost but Penrose and Thorne did not concede. In my opinion, there may be some merit to both approaches, if combined right.
    The debate is at the heart of physics, which has still not come to grips with the new concept of information, but let us see what empiricism and a little logic can offer. Landauer’s principle (reference 1) argues that when computer memory is erased say from the complex 11010 to the uniform 00000, then this is a loss of information, and a reduction of disorder or entropy, which cannot be allowed, so heat must be released. This heat has now been observed (ref 2) whereas the ‘unitarity of the wavefunction’ has not. One point for information loss. Another point is that quantised inertia (QI) and therefore the observed galaxy rotation without dark matter can be derived beautifully by assuming information loss (ref 3).

    The picture is not complete though. In QI, if you accelerate, a horizon obscures your backwards view of the world, erasing information and providing, via Landauer, exactly the right amount of energy to fuel the inertial back-push (ref 3). However, if you stop accelerating, then that information comes back again. Where was it hiding in the meantime? The QI approach may offer a compromise here since accelerating objects see Unruh radiation that inertial (unaccelerating) observers do not. In QI information is in the eye of the beholder. Each object has its own informational universe, and what has been deleted in one may be retrieved by negotiation from another.



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  68. We have a mouldering desalination plant in Sydney right now thanks to the green loonies who had convinced themselves the rain would never fall again.

    Just about everyone now is forecasting a third la Nina in a row. Children won’t know what dry weather is!

    The La Niña conditions that have contributed to the ongoing drought in the southwest United States is likely to continue into a third year, according to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).

    Our dams will never empty again, even if US ones will.

    In other news my currawongs have been enthusiastically washing themselves in the water containers like dusty dogs. Having to refill the containers several times a day. The nice result of this is they no longer smell of mushrooms, which they did after months of dank autumn. Very strongly. It would really suck to have to fly around in mouldy feathers all day.


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  69. Galaxy rotations from quantised inertia and visible matter only
    Astrophysics and Space Science – It is shown here that a model for inertial mass, called quantised inertia, or MiHsC (Modified inertia by a Hubble-scale Casimir effect) predicts the rotational…
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  70. I can’t take the current leaders of the West seriously anymore.

    It’s not so much a case of being incompetent as being on the other side. Makes more sense at least if you look at it that way.


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  71. Russia has already ‘strategically lost’ the war for Ukraine, head of Britain’s Armed Forces insist

    I can’t take the current leaders of the West seriously anymore. Sorry, I just can’t.

    A Mr Pyrrhus would disagree with you Dover.

    This is really looking like Iran-Iraq War, where both sides wouldn’t accept loss of face in a peace deal. So it dragged on for 8 long years.

    ‘Crimea is our goal’ Zelensky sets sights on devastating turnaround with weapons from West (16 Jun)

    Z is just reacting to polls and focus groups: the Ukrainian on the street is thinking like this.


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  72. Instead, trunks and branches would fall on top of each other, and the weight of all that heavy wood would eventually compress those trees into peat and then, over time, into coal.

    Hence my zeal for recycling them trees back into CO2, ready for the next go around.


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  73. ‘Crimea is our goal’ Zelensky sets sights on devastating turnaround with weapons from West (16 Jun)

    Just like Hitlers ‘wunderwaffe’ – to turn defeat into victory at the last minute?


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  74. Just like Hitlers ‘wunderwaffe’ – to turn defeat into victory at the last minute?

    Complemented with the imminently arriving Steiner and his armee just around the nearest corner …


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  75. Eyrie my hypothesis has more basis than yours and mine is more likely than just saying Saffers, Israel and Taiwan. I don’t have a clue. Don’t tell me you do.


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  76. Flyingduk – At the moment the war is a brutal stalemate, very nearly. The Russians have concentrated pretty much every BTG they can free up in the SD area to overwhelm the defenders on a narrow frontage, which massive artillery support. Yet the Ukrainians have fought the Russian offensive to a near standstill.

    They will capture SD, since they’ve finally managed to destroy all the bridges to it, which means the Ukrainians are out of supply. But this is like taking Coogee. It’s a pyrrhic victory of a place no one heard of before a few weeks ago, which has almost no value except symbolically. And that’s required pretty much everything Russia has had (and it still hasn’t quite been taken).

    I really don’t know what will happen with this stupid war. It’s egos at ten paces, no one wins.


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  77. Saffers had the bomb, Israeli has the bomb, Taiwan and South Africa had close co-operation at the time as “pariah” nations on the outer with the international community (from a friend who was a South African living there at the time) and Israel also was on the outer to some extent and was co-operating with both. The US carefully looked the other way as Israel acquired nuclear weapons and denied that the Vela (nuclear detection) satellites had seen a nuclear explosion south of South Africa. All three countries had good reason to get nukes. I do not believe the Israelis would rely on theory alone to get nukes.


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  78. Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    June 17, 2022 at 8:43 pm
    Flyingduk – At the moment the war is a brutal stalemate, very nearly. The Russians have concentrated pretty much every BTG they can free up in the SD area to overwhelm the defenders on a narrow frontage, which massive artillery support. Yet the Ukrainians have fought the Russian offensive to a near standstill.

    They will capture SD, since they’ve finally managed to destroy all the bridges to it, which means the Ukrainians are out of supply. But this is like taking Coogee. It’s a pyrrhic victory of a place no one heard of before a few weeks ago, which has almost no value except symbolically. And that’s required pretty much everything Russia has had (and it still hasn’t quite been taken).

    I really don’t know what will happen with this stupid war. It’s egos at ten paces, no one wins.

    From what I’ve read, the Russians are regularly rotating their troops, and generally keeping them mobile while artillery flattens any concentrations of Ukrainian troops. It looks a lot like they’ve opted to grind the military capacity of Ukraine to dust, rather than capture anything much beyond the separatist areas. But who knows, we don’t know the plans of the commanders of either side really.

    I’ve still yet to get anyone tell me why there couldn’t have been a serious attempt at rapprochement with Russia in the last 30 years. You know, bring them into the fold like any number of other authoritarian and corrupt places across the world. Why the particular antagonistic attitude toward them? As far as I can tell the answer always ends up being some variant of “muh wussia bad”.

    Although I suppose, like I said above, it’s too late now.


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  79. Show Trials.

    HOP Time™ will need a suitably dramatic and justifiable introduction.

    This mighty, long overdue event will not be some spasmodic chaotic uprising of revolting peasants.

    There will be evidence that precedes it.

    Many many mountains of it. 🙂


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  80. Eyriesays:
    June 17, 2022 at 8:49 pm
    Saffers had the bomb, Israeli has the bomb, Taiwan and South Africa had close co-operation at the time as “pariah” nations on the outer with the international community (from a friend who was a South African living there at the time) and Israel also was on the outer to some extent and was co-operating with both. The US carefully looked the other way as Israel acquired nuclear weapons and denied that the Vela (nuclear detection) satellites had seen a nuclear explosion south of South Africa. All three countries had good reason to get nukes. I do not believe the Israelis would rely on theory alone to get nukes.

    Meanwhile we can barely keep the lights on.

    *sigh*


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  81. Saffers had the bomb

    South Africa was one of two or three nations who developed the bomb – they had six bombs and were working on the seventh – when they dismantled the programme, and put the genie back in the bottle.


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  82. a better understanding of what physically happens

    when I was an apprentice in the mill there was a massive M-G set that we used to sync
    just like that
    same gauges
    same blinking sync lights
    and same arse puckering

    slipping a pole


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  83. Thankyou Eyrie I never recalled SA having the bomb. I must have slept in that day. You are most likely right. The more I think about it the more sense it makes.


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  84. Cats – I witnessed a televisual feast on Wednesday night.

    Jibaro

    Ingredients – one UHD TV and surround sound system, played at a very suitable volume.

    Both are necessary if you want to truly experience the alluring beauty and sheer horror of encountering a Siren*.

    9.5/10

    *Don’t say you weren’t warned.


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  85. At least some wall building scammers will go to jail.

    The co-founder of the “We Build The Wall” project aimed at raising money for a border wall pleaded guilty Thursday to charges …

    The organizers of the “We Build The Wall” group raised more than $25m from thousands of donors as they repeatedly pledged that every dollar would be used for the project.

    Asked to describe his crimes by the judge, Kolfage said the group had originally intended for all the raised money to be used to build a wall, but it “soon became apparent” that the plan to donate the money to the US government for the wall’s construction was not possible.


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  86. gas was cheap
    but you got robbed when gas was diverted to elec gen
    now you pay more
    and instead of being metered for energy at yr gas meter, yr being metered via the electric smart meter

    you’ve been stooged by the cartel


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  87. Pascoe has ‘no problem’ with critique of Dark Emu on history list

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    Bruce Pascoe says he has no problem with a critique of his acclaimed book, Dark Emu, being added to a Victorian history resource list for students.

    Professor Pascoe told The Weekend Australian he was not concerned the latest challenge to his work – Farmers or ­hunter-gatherers? The Dark Emu debate by anthropologist Peter Sutton and archaeologist Keryn Walshe – had been included as an optional resource for Victorian students studying Australian History alongside his own work.

    “It’s a book and I don’t burn books. I have no problem with it,” he said. “The curriculum should be designed so it is open ended, especially in history. There shouldn’t be an accepted view. We should be asking kids to make up their own minds. That’s why I’m not afraid of Sutton’s book.

    “It’s just an opinion. It’s just a book. I’m too old to take offence.

    “I’m working with and for my Aboriginal community.”

    It was revealed on Friday that Prof Sutton and Dr Walshe’s work was endorsed by Victoria’s curriculum chiefs and included on a list of resources for the VCE subject area “from custodianship to the Anthropocene (60,000 BCE-1901)”.

    Dark Emu argues that the economy and culture of Indigenous Australians before European conquest has been undervalued, and that journals and diaries of explorers revealed “a much more complicated Aboriginal economy than the primitive hunter-gatherer lifestyle we had been told was the simple lot of Australia’s First People”.

    Prof Sutton and Dr Walshe argue Prof Pascoe is “broadly wrong”, that pre-European conquest Indigenous Australians were “hunter-gatherers-plus”.

    Prof Pascoe said he never claimed Aboriginal people were “absolutely” farmers, rather that they engaged in food gathering practices which were in some cases more like farming than hunter-gathering.

    “(In the book) I was acknowledging the fact that Aboriginal people were harvesting grain, processing it, storing it and cooking with it,” he said.

    Responding to the critique he over relied on journals by explorers, Prof Pascoe said Australians had used those documents for years to understand their history, but were “unaware of much of the content”. In Dark Emu, he said that content included references to Aboriginal people building dams and wells, irrigating, harvesting seed and preserving the surplus. He argues this demonstrates the “complicated Aboriginal economy” and shows Aboriginal people were not nomadic hunter-gatherers.

    “(Dark Emu) was an exposition of what is already on the public record, but not included in our educational or public life,” he said.

    “(Prof Sutton) thinks I’m relying on old fashioned ethnography but until Australia is aware of the true history of this country, the true nature of the Aboriginal economy, we have to make … broad brush comparisons.

    “This is not a black or a white argument. This is an Australian argument.”

    Of course, Bruce Pascoe has no problems with any critique of his book – how much would he have made so far?


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  88. without wind, NEM states generation are damn near all 30% gas right now

    Can’t keep that up forever and still hope to heat homes and cook dinners.


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  89. “(In the book) I was acknowledging the fact that Aboriginal people were harvesting grain, processing it, storing it and cooking with it,” he said.

    I’ll bet good money that agricultural Cats didn’t know Aborigines invented broad-acre agriculture, minimum till, and the combine harvester.


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  90. Royal Ascot carrying on despite extreme heat.
    For just the second time ever dress rules are being loosened.
    Only after the Royal carriage has passed gentle people punters may remove ties, top hats and jackets. Nothing said about the girls though unlikely to turn into the Bacchanalian debauch such as Flemington produces in Cup week.


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  91. Rex Anger:
    The RPG29 – I just looked it up and that was the munition I was referring to. We’ve come a long way from the original Panzerfaust/Panzerschreck models.

    I’ve seen some relatively recent images of burnt-out Turkish Leo 2A4+ from northern Syria, but am pretty sure they weren’t killed by frontal penetrations.

    Yes – I’ve seen them too, and was surprised.


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  92. Cassie

    My beliefs..

    Russia has been running around ridden grief stricken about having lost the old Soviet empire since the Union collapsed into a heap of its own incoherence. It’s true that the west gave certain undertakings that it would expand into the old Eastern bloc. However, over time these undertakings became redundant.

    The Ukraine returned its nuclear arsenal on condition it was never going to be attacked by Russia. This invasion proved that no nation should ever get rid of its nuclear stocks.


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  93. Speaking of tanks, Darwin Military Museum has just acquired a Centurion.

    Some nice pix online of it reversing to its spot on the grounds under its own power.


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  94. I’ve just finished reading The Fabric of Reality by David Deutsch. He reminds me of Bird. The stuff he writes is locally ok until the buzzing bees in his bonnet take over and he goes barking mad. He claims deep relationships between 1. QM, particularly the multiverse idea, 2. Evolution 3. Popper’s ideas on how science works and 4. computational complexity theory. The absence of detail in these claims is underwhelming. He claims that the existence of interference in the 2-slit experiment and the interferometer is compelling evidence for the multiverse, but doesn’t explain why multiple copies of the ‘same’ electrons from different universes should interfere with each other as if they are waves. Bits make sense, overall it looks nutty. Very birdlike.


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  95. Beaugy – you don’t have to gloat about it.

    He’s more entertaining and much more intelligent than Bird, so it wasn’t too bad, rabz.
    We both think that Kuhn’s stuff is crap, in fact we agree on a fair amount of the basic stuff. Up to the point where he goes off his head.


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