Open Thread – Weekend 25 June 2022


The request of the child (the old chest), Ferdinand Georg Waldmüller, 1860

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shatterzzz
June 25, 2022 12:15 pm

Hot off the press. Brussel Sprouts $5.99 a bag. Now I didn’t notice if it was a kg but the bag was big and I figure if people can eat them a kg is the way to go.

That’ll be the pre-packed 300g bag that Woolies suckers the “newbie” sprouters wiv .. LOL!

shatterzzz
June 25, 2022 12:19 pm

Frustration over rule changes, ticketing and transport are the main reasons deterring footy fans from attending games, a Herald Sun readers’ survey has revealed.
The high price of food and drink at venues was also high on AFL fans’ dislikes in 2022.

Soooo, nuttin’ changes but worth another, no doubt well renumerated, “report” .. LOL!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 25, 2022 12:19 pm

Show me a human that can live in water for 9 months. That’s not a human trait

Evolutionary biology.
Who knew?

Makka
Makka
June 25, 2022 12:20 pm

Appointing a swag of fifty-something black letter Constitutional traditionalists to the Supreme Court will far outlive any legacy of Obumbi and the Crimtons.

It’s big but I doubt big enough to change the course of events in the US. The institutions of state arrayed against the common man and anyone who proposes to represent their interests (like Trump) are overwhelming. DoJ, FBI, CIA, State, captive media, IRS etc… all heavily politicized and wielding immense power (for themselves and their alliances) in their various spheres. The truly bewildering aspect of this is that it doesn’t matter who holds the WH , they will have their way by hook or by crook. These parasite elites are not left or right. They occupy their roles and their massive budgets from both Demorat and GOP camps and work closely together for the sake of themselves – and fk everyone else.

“Everyone else” are just the working schmucks who provide the piggy bank that is constantly pillaged by these parasites. Trumps legacy is that he pulled back the curtain for those willing and intelligent enough to see how the world works. Not fully or even remotely appreciated by most. Normal viewing has returned, mostly.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 25, 2022 12:24 pm

The Washington Post Runs Article That Petitions Congress To Block Trump From Running in 2024

On Thursday, The Washington Post published an op-ed entitled, “There is a better option to keep Trump out of office than prosecution,” petitioning Congress to block former President Donald J. Trump from re-election in 2024.

The article was written by NBC News analyst Edward B. Foley, who argued that Congress should weaponize Section 3 of the 14th Amendment against Trump to prevent him from running again.

“If the goal of prosecuting former President Donald Trump is to protect American democracy from a Trump comeback in 2024, there is a better way to go about it than filing criminal charges,” Foley wrote.

“Instead, Congress should exercise its constitutional authority to prohibit Trump from seeking the presidency again,” he continued.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment explicitly authorizes Congress and the DOJ to ban people who have “engaged in insurrection” from running for office. Something Foley repeatedly called on Congress to exercise.

No Mention of Banning Hillary Clinton

Cassie of Sydney
June 25, 2022 12:25 pm

On the SCOTUS decision, from the Daily Telegraph..

“Former US president Donald Trump, who appointed three of the justices on the court – giving it the majority for the ruling – said “God made the decision”.

“This is following the Constitution, and giving rights back when they should have been given long ago,” Trump told Fox News.

In a later statement, Trump took direct credit for decision, which he said came “because I delivered everything as promised”, including three Supreme Court justices..

“I did not cave to the Radical Left Democrats, their partners in the Fake News Media, or the RINOs who are likewise the true, but silent, enemy of the people,” he said.”

Trump is 100% correct.

And as for the protests occurring outside the Supreme Court, there are placards and screams everywhere screeching about “bodily autonomy”….given what’s happened over the last two years, I can’t stop laughing.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 25, 2022 12:26 pm

Makkasays:
June 25, 2022 at 12:20 pm

“Everyone else” are just the working schmucks who provide the piggy bank that is constantly pillaged by these parasites. Trumps legacy is that he pulled back the curtain for those willing and intelligent enough to see how the world works. Not fully or even remotely appreciated by most. Normal viewing has returned, mostly.

People Awakening to The Multinational Corporate Influence Over U.S. Politics – This is What the Professional UniParty, Including Republicans, Have Intentionally Kept Hidden From The American Voter

April 3, 2021 – Sundance

Reposting an earlier article by request as more people are starting to understand why CTH has focused on the financial motivations behind the political ideology for over a decade. It is critical that people understand the landscape. Underline it. Study it. Research the issues and teach everyone about it.

Cassie of Sydney
June 25, 2022 12:27 pm

I should also add, that throughout the Kavanaugh hearings, Trump stood firm and had Kavanaugh’s back. Unlike the unlamented recent PM of Australia who threw people such as Porter and Laming to the wolves.

johanna
johanna
June 25, 2022 12:34 pm

There are still many prominent members of the Republican Party, and its affiliates in the media, thinktanks etc who loathe Trump. Some of them are upfront about it, while others merely remain silent when he is attacked and covertly support his opponents.

A lot of it seems to be based on snobbery and/or personality clashes. There are many people (some of them comment here) who base their political judgements on whether this or that person could be a bestie. Whether the person would be a good dinner party guest, whether friends/family would like him or her, that kind of thing.

It’s the human condition, and there’s not much anyone can do about it. Bill Clinton’s political success was firmly grounded in his personal charm and ability to interact easily with any and all types of people. Bob Hawke was a beta version of that.

Trump is no snob, but he’s not a Clinton either. His eyes are on the prize, first and foremost. He can turn on the charm with the best of them, but it’s not a way of life.

Much as I would like to see 2016-20 repeated, it isn’t likely to happen. He’ll be eight years older than when he started out last time, and eight years is significant when you are in your seventies and eighties in a way that it is not when you are in your forties and fifties.

Still, his Presidency will not pass unremarked in the history books. Just when the Presidency was comfortably being shared between Democrats and RINOs, BAM!

He changed all sorts of policy trajectories for the better, at home and abroad, despite being fought tooth and nail by the Deep State, Democrats, the MSM (BIRM) and a significant chunk of his own party.

A great man.

Frank
Frank
June 25, 2022 12:44 pm

Show me a human that can live in water for 9 months.

I don’t get it, we all did. Or is that the point.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 25, 2022 12:46 pm

Durham Played You For A Fool!

John Durham and Bill Barr finally ran out of the clock on Spygate. Why are you surprised?

Bill Barr didn’t really want to arrest or prosecute Democrats — and certainly not in 2020. After all, the GOP establishment was busy collaborating with Democrats in 2020 to steal the November election from President Trump — or don’t you remember?

In other words: the Durham investigation was simply the clean-up phase of Spygate disguised as an investigation of Spygate. This was perfectly obvious at the time — and it remains obvious today. It doesn’t take two years for the DOJ to prosecute its targets. You know that — right? Just ask Roger Stone. When the DOJ really wants to prosecute you, it’s easy to tell because two dozen special agents in SWAT gear appear at your door in a pre-dawn raid with a CNN camera crew already stationed across the street.

And that’s just for the crime of “lying to Congress.”

Did you really think that John Durham need two years to bring serious indictments against the Spygate plotters? Did you really fail to notice that his low-level indictments came just as the statue of limitations expired? Or that Durham brought minimal charges that were always going to bring minimal sentences?

That’s because John Durham was the cleaner.

In fact, the Spygate plotters (Obama, Biden, Rice) are currently in control of the White House — in case you hadn’t noticed. How’s that for getting away with it? Sure, Durham made a valiant attempt to transfer the blame for the whole scandal onto Hillary Clinton and her campaign aides — but Hillary Clinton wasn’t meeting with James Comey about the Russia Hoax in the White House and texting Peter Strozk and Lisa Page was she?

Durham even tried to get the American public to believe that the FBI and the CIA had somehow been fooled by Hillary Clinton into investigating Trump. That’s right: the FBI and the CIA claimed to be innocent rubes who were deliberately led astray by Lady Macbeth

That’s what happens when you reduce a criminal conspiracy to overthrow the sitting President into a single charge of lying to the FBI. The elephant in the room transforms into a fly, and then the fly gets swatted.

Durham’s job was to run out the clock during the Trump Administration — he was there to protect Obama and Biden and the national security state from any accountability.

The Left burns down entire cities in coordinated riots to achieve its political objectives. The Left tries to assassinate a conservative Supreme Court justice to stop anti-abortion legislation right after forcing a liberal Supreme Court justice into retirement in order to install an even more left-wing justice. The Left, in other words, trusts nobody because it only cares about results.

Meanwhile, you were told: sit back and watch the show.

You were told: trust the plan.

The question is: why were you dumb enough to believe Durham in the first place?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
June 25, 2022 12:46 pm

Maybe the Roe overturning will focus the Dems’ minds on reducing petrol prices, so oppressed women in places like Missouri can afford to drive across the border to a baby-killing state.

JC
JC
June 25, 2022 12:46 pm

And as for the protests occurring outside the Supreme Court, there are placards and screams everywhere screeching about “bodily autonomy”….given what’s happened over the last two years, I can’t stop laughing.

LOl..Until the vax, right?

JC
JC
June 25, 2022 12:49 pm

This may sound a little off: kidding hoovering is going to become a yuge business in the blue states.

Go to NY, trudge up the Empire State, walk the Brooklyn Bridge and the High Line, then go get the kiddie hoovered.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
June 25, 2022 12:51 pm

Trumps legacy is that he pulled back the curtain for those willing and intelligent enough to see how the world works

Very true, but Trump was too soft. They impeached him twice, called him an insurrectionist and are trying to get supreme court judges killed, all for the crime of pulling back the curtain.

If there’s ever another Trump or even Trump himself, it needs to be all out war. Appoint his own people to drag every rat through the mud, fire en masse, jail and destroy reputations. Go after the media, the institutions, everywhere all at once.

Trump was a pussy.

John Sheldrick
June 25, 2022 12:51 pm

Re: Elbow’s directive.

Why would any ‘Pollie’ need 4 Advisers anyway? What if they all gave different advice on a certain subject? Which Adviser to then use? Surely one Adviser is enough? And if the ‘Pollie’ needed more advice, then said ‘Pollie’ to put their hand in their own pocket and pay for another Adviser. Naaaaaaah. Won’t happen. Not from their own pocket. No way………lol.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 25, 2022 12:51 pm

For the Peasants

Biden’s Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm insists high gas prices are ‘a very compelling case’ to buy an electric car:

– Official is worth $8million and recently exercised $1.6m stock option in electric car company

Cadillac’s $300,000 Luxury EV To Be Revealed This Summer

Cadillac has a near-term desire to reclaim its decades-old slogan “Standard of the World” with a $300,000 all-electric luxury sedan unveiled this summer.

WSJ reports the “Celestiq” will be a flagship luxury sedan, equipped with an all-wheel-drive electric powertrain capable of a +300-mile driving range and packed with groundbreaking technologies (including a hands-free assisted-driving system).

Cadillac plans to produce only 500 Celestiqs per year in an $81 million facility at GM’s Global Technology Center in Warren, Michigan.

“The Celestiq price tag could run well beyond $300,000 depending on added features, and the car is scheduled to go into production by late 2023,” WSJ noted, citing people familiar with the project.

Celestiqs will be priced in a range comparable to the Mercedes-AMG S65 ($230k), Bentley Flying Spur ($214k), and Rolls-Royce Ghost ($312k). Cadillac wants Celestiq to be the ultimate status symbol and the Holy Grail of luxury vehicles after being outshined by numerous luxury car makers from Europe for decades.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 25, 2022 12:51 pm

John Barilaro’s bite of the Big Apple: the plum New York posting that set off a firestorm

The lucky recipient of the New York job would receive an annual taxpayer-funded salary of $500,000, plus expenses. That’s about $150,000 more than the deputy premier received.

The preferred candidate was Jenny West. While Investment NSW and the government insisted the highly credentialed former public servant and businesswoman did not receive any “formal” offer, the Guardian understands she was told that it was hers.

But the late-afternoon announcement last Friday that Barilaro himself would be the state’s new trade commissioner has caused a firestorm in Macquarie Street.

They have no shame.
None.

Made worse by the fact that the only anger appears to be that the wrong insider ran off with the loot like a burglar in the night.

Labor is calling for him to be stripped of the job, two separate inquiries are under way and in the government itself MPs are furious that an ambitious pre-election budget has been overshadowed by controversy.

“The timing of this is just terrible,” one minister told the Guardian.

But the NY Victorian Trade Commissioner sinecure itself is just delicious.

rickw
rickw
June 25, 2022 12:52 pm

just got assaulted with some overt faggot ad from quickbooks

what is wrong with companies

I made an enquiry yesterday to an Australian Trucking company. The reply email footer had a shout out to traditional owners, whoever that might mean and the “we’re coming for your children” flag (newest edition) and a little shout out to them for being so “brave”.

These people are sick. Australian’s are sick.

custard
custard
June 25, 2022 12:54 pm

Q posts have started again.

Interesting, it’s been 18 months in between posts.

I don’t have the faintest idea what they all mean.

https://qposts.online/

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 25, 2022 12:55 pm

Victorian = NSW
Equally disgusting.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 25, 2022 12:56 pm

The World’s Angriest Countries

Nearly everybody experiences anger in everyday life, whether it’s frustrations about making ends meet, the state of public transport or a misunderstanding at work. Gallup’s 2021 Global Emotions Report set out to gauge emotions (including anger levels) in more than 100 countries around the globe. Anger tends to manifest itself more often in certain parts of the world, particularly in the Middle and Near East.

Gallup found that 49 percent of people in Lebanon had experienced anger on the day before they were surveyed, the highest rate recorded anywhere in the world. After years-long economic turmoil and high inflation, a massive explosion in Beirut’s port destroyed large parts of the city in 2020, once more stoking anger at the country’s government for not enforcing safety measure or having the capacity to help those who were harmed.

High levels of anger were also measured in Turkey, which had been dealing with runaway inflation even before the war in Ukraine and whose government has taken a turn for the authoritarian lately. Armenians, who experienced a flare-up of war in 2020 with neighbor Azerbaijan, also had elevated levels of anger. After years of war, Iraqis and Afghans also have a long list of topics to be angry about which includes a lack of basic public services in many parts of the countries.

Mali and Sierra Leone were the angriest countries outside the Middle East, Near East and Persia, with 35 percent of respondents having experienced anger the previous day.

Roger
Roger
June 25, 2022 12:58 pm

Why would any ‘Pollie’ need 4 Advisers anyway?

It’s a training ground for future candidates.

So one thing Elbow is doing is nobbling future opponents before they get out of the gate.

rickw
rickw
June 25, 2022 12:59 pm

Random pallets of bricks appearing in streets around the US now.

Can’t they get them those small pavers? Full size bricks are wreaking havoc with Antifa’s wrists.

John Sheldrick
June 25, 2022 1:02 pm

Section 3 of the 14th amendment explicitly authorizes Congress and the DOJ to ban people who have “engaged in insurrection” from running for office. Something Foley repeatedly called on Congress to exercise.

There never was an Insurrection. Not when there is plenty of CCTV evidence showing the police opening the doors and letting the ‘Protesters’ in. Never a coup either. Need to try something else to get Trump so back to the drawing board Dems.

Vicki
Vicki
June 25, 2022 1:04 pm

politichix says:
June 25, 2022 at 11:04 am
Starlink…
We recently installed it and it’s a dream. Easy to set up – literally plug and play. The power is required for the modem which is in your house so any PowerPoint will do.

Thanks politichix. That gives us some hope. If it is that easy – it is very inviting.
Am very depressed at the moment over this computer crap. The local guru shop persuaded us to have an upgrade of all our apple computers – IMAC, MacAir & the iPad. My IMAC in particular is now as slow as a wet week! Yet, they promised the opposite!

Frank
Frank
June 25, 2022 1:05 pm

The World’s Angriest Countries, they all probably import a lot of Australian wheat.

rickw
rickw
June 25, 2022 1:07 pm

Texas, I believe, has also moved to make abortion illegal.

That’s Californian’s escaping their shit state and bringing their shit ideas with them.

JC
JC
June 25, 2022 1:09 pm

There never was an Insurrection. Not when there is plenty of CCTV evidence showing the police opening the doors and letting the ‘Protesters’ in. Never a coup either. Need to try something else to get Trump so back to the drawing board Dems.

There never was, but that’s not the reality of the situation. The Rat’s are attempting to paint “insurrectionist” on Trump’s back and then having the politicized DOJ press charges. That’s where they want to go. Can they be stopped is another question.

The DOJ presses federal insurrection charges and has the case dealt with by a friendly Rat judge. It will have to end up to the Supreme court on appeal most likely. They want to put Trump in jail.

JC
JC
June 25, 2022 1:11 pm

Frank says:
June 25, 2022 at 1:05 pm

The World’s Angriest Countries, they all probably import a lot of Australian wheat.

Top heavy with gluten in wheat. Constipation caused the Mideast to go bonkers since Australia began to export wheat there.
Science has proven this proposition. 🙂

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 25, 2022 1:18 pm

Forrest Gardener
June 25, 2022 at 12:39 pm · Reply
For the uninitiated, what do you get when you buy an NFT?

Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey sold his first ever tweet as an NFT for more than $2.9 million. Essentially, NFTs are like physical collector’s items, only digital. So instead of getting an actual oil painting to hang on the wall, the buyer gets a digital file instead. They also get exclusive ownership rights

Okay, let’s start with the basics.

WHAT IS AN NFT? WHAT DOES NFT STAND FOR?

Non-fungible token.

That doesn’t make it any clearer.

Right, sorry. “Non-fungible” more or less means that it’s unique and can’t be replaced with something else. For example, a bitcoin is fungible — trade one for another bitcoin, and you’ll have exactly the same thing.

A one-of-a-kind trading card, however, is non-fungible. If you traded it for a different card, you’d have something completely different. You gave up a Squirtle, and got a 1909 T206 Honus Wagner, which StadiumTalk calls “the Mona Lisa of baseball cards.” (I’ll take their word for it.)

How do NFTs work?

At a very high level, most NFTs are part of the Ethereum blockchain, though other blockchains have implemented their own version of NFTs. Ethereum is a cryptocurrency, like bitcoin or dogecoin, but its blockchain also keeps track of who’s holding and trading NFTs.

How do you pronounce NFT?

Almost everyone spells it out, saying “en eff tee.” The brave call them “nefts.” The enlightened have never had the word cross their lips.

What’s worth picking up at the NFT supermarket?

NFTs can really be anything digital (such as drawings, music, your brain downloaded and turned into an AI), but a lot of the current excitement is around using the tech to sell digital art.

You mean, like, people buying my good tweets?

I don’t think anyone can stop you, but that’s not really what I meant. A lot of the conversation is about NFTs as an evolution of fine art collecting, only with digital art.

But yes, someone could buy your good tweets. The founder of Twitter sold one for just under $3 million shortly after we originally posted this article.

Could you do a real quick rundown of what the blockchain is?

John Sheldrick
June 25, 2022 1:30 pm

I think though it’s time for DeSantis. The old orange trooper may be too old.

DeSantis should stay in Florida. If he goes to Washington and becomes President then in all likelihood the same thing that happened to Trump will happen to him. He should remain in Florida so that he can steer Florida away from the Union. There will likely be many other States breaking away (Texas, etc.) with the break up of the USA. All IMHO.

JC
JC
June 25, 2022 1:38 pm

I swear to God, I posted the above comment about the blue states seeing an abortion boom and made up the rest of the comment about NY.

What you think of as being a joke or funny these days, the left will make it real enough. I just saw this at Citizens Free Press.

Come to beautiful NYC and enjoy the sites while you kill your baby

Mayor Eric Adams
@NYCMayor
To all New Yorkers: you still have access safe, legal abortions here in New York City.

To those seeking abortions around the country: you are welcome here.

Find more information on providers, support, and additional resources available: http://on.nyc.gov/AbortionResour

More here.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/nyc-seeks-to-become-abortion-mecca/

Dot
Dot
June 25, 2022 1:43 pm

So instead of getting an actual oil painting to hang on the wall, the buyer gets a digital file instead. They also get exclusive ownership rights

Sure, exclusive as all of the songs on Napster were.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 25, 2022 1:44 pm

JC says:
June 25, 2022 at 1:11 pm
Frank says:
June 25, 2022 at 1:05 pm

The World’s Angriest Countries, they all probably import a lot of Australian wheat.
Top heavy with gluten in wheat. Constipation caused the Mideast to go bonkers since Australia began to export wheat there.
Science has proven this proposition. ?

Constipation in countries that love dates and camel milk?
I put it down to sand getting into the moist zones and chafing. That would make you cranky.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 25, 2022 1:44 pm

Analysis – The EU’s crumbling unity gives Putin an opportunity to win

In the first days after Vladimir Putin’s invasion, Europe’s response was one of astonishing force and unity. Without prompts or any global leadership, crowds protested across the continent and governments offered to send arms and take in Ukrainian refugees.

It seemed as if Putin had made a catastrophic miscalculation, uniting the free world against him and inviting the most sweeping sanctions regime in living memory. But this picture is now changing – and fast.

The European Union summit this week looks like a classic of the genre: full of warm words for Volodymyr Zelensky and an offer of “accession candidate” status for his country. But behind the scenes, there’s huge discord.

To the fury of the newer EU members, it seems a clause will be inserted to the effect that Ukraine would not join before other countries were ready to assimilate its people.

The accession process takes a decade or more. As a Kremlin official recently pointed out, Ukraine might not exist within two years.

‘Putin can save face by going back to Russia’

The divisions don’t stop there. For example: is Putin a partner, or pariah? Emmanuel Macron keeps telephoning him and occasionally warns the rest of Europe that Russia cannot be “humiliated” or be seen to “lose face”.

But there is still no sign of the promised rocket artillery and anti-aircraft tanks and Germany has vetoed attempts by Estonia and Spain to send their own German-made kit to Ukraine.

There is growing suspicion in Berlin that Scholz is trying to play both sides, angling for a more Putin-compatible solution to the crisis. One of his senior advisers said this week that we should think as much about relations with Moscow post-conflict as we do arms supplies to Ukraine.

It’s not just that Ukraine is finding it difficult on the battlefield, losing up to a thousand troops a day. The economic war may be about to turn, with Putin ending up on the offensive. The surge in energy prices has meant a windfall for the Kremlin, with €20 billion from Germany in the first four months alone.

Energy crisis reveals flaw in sanctions

This was, from the offset, the flaw in the sanctions plan. If Germany has no alternative to Russian oil and gas then it was always going to keep buying – funding Putin’s war machine as it went. But at far higher prices.

Those prices would be lower (and the Kremlin a lot poorer) if the Saudis played ball, pumping more oil to keep world prices down as they did in the 1980s. But bin Salman, the Crown Prince, is not picking sides.

He conspicuously failed to condemn the invasion of Ukraine and has a Macron-style habit of picking up the phone to Putin. When the Saudi energy minister went to the St Petersburg economic summit last week, he declared his country’s relations with Russia to be “as warm as the weather in Riyadh”.

The video linked star speaker at Putin’s conference, by the way, was X@ Jinping – now a lot closer to Moscow than he appeared to be immediately after the invasion.

President X@ turned 69 last week and celebrated by calling Putin to reassure him that China-Russian relations have maintained “momentum” in the face of – ahem – “global turbulence and transformation”.

Russia has now supplanted Saudi Arabia as China’s top oil supplier. As for India, it’s buying 25 times more Russian oil than it used to. All told, Russia should make $320 billion selling energy this year, up 35 per cent on last year.

So much for starving Putin’s war machine.

To offer support to Ukraine, but not go so far as to actually save it.

This would all conform to Putin’s original bet: that a debt-addled, exhausted West cannot defend democracy anymore and has no stomach for a protracted fight. There might not be much time left to prove him wrong.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 25, 2022 1:47 pm

Dotsays:
June 25, 2022 at 1:43 pm
So instead of getting an actual oil painting to hang on the wall, the buyer gets a digital file instead. They also get exclusive ownership rights

Sure, exclusive as all of the songs on Napster were.

Dot,

you mean like this Napster – Shawn Fanning guest appearance in the movie ‘The Italian Job’ (2003)

Zipster
June 25, 2022 1:50 pm

Putin’s original bet: that a debt-addled, exhausted West cannot defend democracy anymore and has no stomach for a protracted fight

Ukraine had democracy? who knew!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 25, 2022 1:51 pm

John Sheldricksays:

June 25, 2022 at 12:51 pm

Re: Elbow’s directive.

Why would any ‘Pollie’ need 4 Advisers anyway

Apparently they all have four electorate office employees (which is really three after maternity leave, trans leave, family violence leave etc). But these are all based in the electorate. The advisor is probably Canbra based. Of course, you are right. Why does a diligent and intelligent back-bencher need four advisors. In fact, the electorate is meant to be her advisors.
Soft-cock ScoMo gave Zali four, hoping to buy her off. At least Elbow recognises that idle hands are the devil’s playthings. Every advisor needs a regular flow of amendments to put on their resumé.

Zipster
June 25, 2022 1:53 pm

To those seeking abortions around the country: you are welcome here.

And bring you ageing grandmother and retarded brother in law and kill 3 birds with one stone, so to speak…

johanna
johanna
June 25, 2022 1:54 pm

While Britain left the European Union, the narrowly-worded 2016 referendum question made no mention of the constellation of EU-adjacent bodies the country has so far remained inside. Most prominent is the Council of Europe, which despite sharing the same flag, anthem, goals, having headquarters next door to the EU in the ‘European Quarter’ in Strasbourg, and all EU members having to be a member of it as well, is technically a separate entity. The UK should withdraw from the Council and it’s court to actually take back control of its own borders, Farage believes.

OK, having a bit of smug here. I warned youse about that prick teaser in reverse, Boris. Some got excited because he was going to ‘do something’ about the Biased BBC. Hope you weren’t holding your breath.

I don’t much care for the ‘explanations’ that he is just a puppet of his Greenie missus. He promoted bicycling and banning cars when he was Mayor of London, long before she came on the scene.

What a bunch of dopes we have in charge of the West.

local oaf
June 25, 2022 1:56 pm

cohenite says:
June 25, 2022 at 11:21 am

Who was the fucking idiot who gave rowe’s cartoon a tick?

Not me, but maybe they were thanking Tom for putting himself through the unpleasant task of making it available. 🙂

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 25, 2022 2:01 pm

Energy prices soar as struggling retailers end discounts

Many households and small businesses may face power bill rises of more than 30 per cent as energy retailers ditch their normal practice of offering heavy discounts to customers.

Those discounts, which typically amount to 20 to 30 per cent off the regulator’s benchmark price, are at risk of disappearing as soaring electricity and gas costs push retailers to the wall. The move comes on top of default offers rising as much as 18 per cent.

With a string of smaller retailers already going to the wall or telling customers to find another energy provider, retailers are now offering their customers prices starting from July 1 that are as close as possible to the regulator’s benchmark safety-net price.

Mr Dufty said he did not expect many competitive market offers for 2022-23 with most retailers sticking close to the Australian Energy Regulator’s benchmark price, known as the default market offer, which is a safety net for customers who haven’t shopped around for a better deal.

“No one wants to take on customers at all. They don’t want to be attractive to customers because that means they’ll have to go and source more energy and that’s a problem for their portfolio,” Mr Dufty told AFR Weekend.

“You don’t want to blow yourself up. It’s self-preservation. I suspect many will have to offer the default market offer – because they are obliged to – and you can’t really go over that.”

In May, under its default market offer scheme, the AER approved price increases of up to 18.3 per cent in NSW and 12.6 per cent in Queensland from July 1.

But Origin Energy earlier this month told some of its customers they would be paying above the default market offer or reference price next financial year.

They said most customers would be below the default market offer except some solar customers who would get a discount from putting energy into the grid.

According to Origin’s latest tariffs, the average price for residential customers on variable rates would increase on July 1 by 14.4 per cent (or $268) in NSW, 13.7 per cent (or $223) in Queensland and 10.4 per cent ($180) in South Australia.

Two of the other big energy retailers, AGL and EnergyAustralia, are yet to release their tariffs for 2022-23.

Customers must also be told how any new plan offered compared to the reference price.

Customers can ask their retailer to switch them to a standing offer which must not be higher than the default market offer.

Retailers will now also be hit with picking up the tab for the Australia Energy Market Operator’s compensation schemes for generators, after they were forced this month to put more supply into the market to avoid blackouts.

Zipster
June 25, 2022 2:11 pm

Drbeen Medical Lectures

Defeat Brain Fog With New Neurons | A Review of Neurogenesis for Long COVID

And, more sex for more neurons. Let’s review the exciting science of neurogenesis.

John Sheldrick
June 25, 2022 2:13 pm

What a bunch of dopes we have in charge of the West.

Corrupt dopes bought by the WEF.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 25, 2022 2:16 pm

Damn this sneaky virus.
The Bankruptcy strain is killing business.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/other-industries/geelongbased-building-company-waterford-homes-collapses/news-story/c1f2b950f0b43b2c0e79eaf681fb1a56

Doctors have warned against using politicians to fight the symptoms. Worse than the cure, some noted.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 25, 2022 2:22 pm

Not me, but maybe they were thanking Tom for putting himself through the unpleasant task of making it available.
Why would he do that though, if he’s not tacitly endorsing Rowe?
The guy’s work is uniformly partisan garbage and disgusting as well.

Tom
Tom
June 25, 2022 2:23 pm

Fuck. Me. Dead.

Some dumb bimbo at Channel 7 doing the promo for tonight’s 6pm Australian metro news bulletins just reported breathlessly that the “US Supreme Court has overturned the right to have an abortion“.

Pig-ignorant trollops like this are now being churned out by Australian J-schools: the news is whatever I want it to be.

Winston Smith
June 25, 2022 2:30 pm

John Sheldrick:

Well, I’m the head of my house as I’m the only person in it.

Me too!
The Gang of One!

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 25, 2022 2:31 pm

Can’t they get them those small pavers? Full size bricks are wreaking havoc with Antifa’s wrists.
Good question.
The answer is that a brick is better for braining someone than a paver.
The States are paroling criminals to wield those bricks as we speak.

Winston Smith
June 25, 2022 2:42 pm

Shatterzzz:

what it can do is send it back to the states so each state implements its own laws.

Isn’t that the point of the SCOTUS reversal? .. to return the decision to the, individual, States!

…and if I’m reading it correctly, it’s the right thing to do. The US is a Federation of States, after all.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 25, 2022 2:44 pm

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES: Shocking photos show men with ARROWS pierced through their arms and legs after 20 crossbows were ‘stolen’ and used in a fight in troubled Indigenous community

– Photos show crossbows being used in a fight in Wadeye, Northern Territory
– Crossbows were allegedly stolen from Mitchells Adventures, Darwin
– Shocking photos show four men impaled with the arrows in their arms and legs
– Remote Aboriginal community has been marred with violence in recent months

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 25, 2022 2:50 pm

Doc Faustus,

Seem to remember Beattie pulling a similar stunt but only after seriously ramping up the perks. Someone in NSW should remind the ALP about brick and glass houses when it comes to jobs for the boys.

On Barrilaro I wonder if ICAC is looking his way as well. Good way to put him out of the picture for a couple of years.

John Sheldrick
June 25, 2022 2:53 pm

PAL – it will catch the dyslexic ALP voter.

PAL in the UK was a dog food when I lived in the UK. PAL=Prolongs Active Life.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 25, 2022 2:55 pm

OldOzzie says:
June 25, 2022 at 2:44 pm

No comments being published.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 25, 2022 2:57 pm

Interesting, isn’t it, that the claque of activist lawyers denouncing Morrison and calling for a federal ICAC have gone silent over the antics of Anaesthesia Bjelke-Palacechook and her minions?

I’m not defending Morrison and Joyce here, by the way. What was the federal government doing handing out money to local sports clubs etc anyway? How about a conservative party that displayed some principle and refused to join a competitive auction to bribe voters with their own money?

Winston Smith
June 25, 2022 2:57 pm

Rosie:

the French Government continues the war against the burkini

Good.
We have bent over backwards to accommodate the Islamic religion and gotten nothing but contempt and violence in return.
Assimilate or piss off. They have abused our hospitality too much.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 25, 2022 2:57 pm

Derek Chauvin couldn’t be reached for comment.

Justine Ruszczyk Damond was also unavailable for comment.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 25, 2022 2:59 pm

And then there is the silence over the judiciary in Victoria and Queensland becoming practically a sub-branch of the ALP.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 25, 2022 3:00 pm

(CNN)For the first time, New Zealanders are enjoying an official public holiday this June 24 to celebrate Matariki — also known as M?ori New Year.

Matariki is the M?ori name for a cluster of stars, also known as the Pleiades, the rising of which is recognized by many of the country’s Indigenous people as the start of the new year.

Barry
Barry
June 25, 2022 3:01 pm

Second speed camera car smashed in a week

A second camera car has been targeted in Victoria – the fourth incident in less than two months.

Link

Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

Winston Smith
June 25, 2022 3:02 pm

Rabz:

Nice that the waffling windbag imbeciles that magicked such a ridiculous concept into existence have finally been given a long overdue and well deserved smackdown.
Presumably the squawking is now audible in space.

That’s a common misconception, Rabz. Space is a vacuum and cannot transmit sound so you can’t be heard squawking.
You can, however, hear the farts.
Not many people know that.
🙂

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 25, 2022 3:03 pm

BOSTON (AP) — A Connecticut woman who says she’s descended from slaves who are portrayed in widely published, historical photos owned by Harvard University can sue the school for emotional distress, Massachusetts’ highest court ruled Thursday.

The state’s Supreme Judicial Court partly vacated a lower court ruling that dismissed a complaint from Tamara Lanier over photos she says depict her enslaved ancestors. The images are considered some of the earliest that show enslaved people in the U.S.

The court concluded the Norwich resident and her family can plausibly make a case for suffering “negligent and indeed reckless infliction of emotional distress” from Harvard and remanded that part of their claim to the state Superior Court.

The judges said the university failed to contact Lanier when it used one of the images on a book cover and prominently featured it in materials for a campus conference — even after she’d reached out about her ancestral ties.

“In sum, despite its duty of care to her, Harvard cavalierly dismissed her ancestral claims and disregarded her requests, despite its own representations that it would keep her informed of further developments,” the ruling states.

Bluey
Bluey
June 25, 2022 3:05 pm

Winston Smithsays:
June 25, 2022 at 2:57 pm
Rosie:

the French Government continues the war against the burkini

Good.
We have bent over backwards to accommodate the Islamic religion and gotten nothing but contempt and violence in return.
Assimilate or piss off. They have abused our hospitality too much.

How many people would know about the Broken hill jihad in first world war? Islam is not compatible with western values in it’s current form.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 25, 2022 3:14 pm

Gets worse Old Lefty, NSW Liberal Speakman just appointed the AG from the Obeid & Mac Donald years as ICAC commissioner. Dracula and blood bank come to mind…

John Sheldrick
June 25, 2022 3:18 pm

Will we be sighing in front of an NFT in a hundred years’ time as we do before Leonardo da Vinci’s Mona Lisa, van Gogh’s Sunflowers, or Emily Kame Kngwarreye’s Big Yam Dreaming? Or will NFTs have passed into the shallow grave of obsolete technologies, like VHS and Beta?

Real Art is the best way to go IMHO especially where the Painter/Artist is already dead.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 25, 2022 3:22 pm

Abortion Goes Back to the People

In Dobbs, the Supreme Court finally corrects its historic mistake in Roe v. Wade.
By The WSJ Editorial Board

Can America still settle its political conflicts democratically, and peacefully? We’re about to find out after the Supreme Court Friday overturned Roe v. Wade and returned the profound moral issue of abortion to the states and democratic assent, where it has always belonged.

Critics say the Court’s 6-3 decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization is rule by unelected judges. But Roe was the real “exercise of raw judicial power,” as Justice Byron White put it in dissent in 1973. That’s when seven Justices claimed to find a constitutional right to abortion that is nowhere mentioned in the Constitution and had no history in American common law. The Court on Friday finally corrected its mistake, which has damaged the legitimacy of the Court and inflamed our politics for 49 years.

The Justices in the majority deserve credit for sticking with their convictions despite the leak of Justice Samuel Alito’s opinion in May. The leak was probably intended to create a furor to pressure the Justices to change their mind, and it has led to protests in front of their homes and even an apparent assassination attempt against Justice Brett Kavanaugh. By holding firm, they showed the Court can’t be intimidated.

Justice Alito’s majority opinion hews closely to his draft, and it is a careful, thoughtful survey of abortion law and its history in the constitutional order. His opinion takes apart, brick by logical brick, the reasoning of Roe and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the other main abortion precedent the Court overrules in Dobbs.

The central point, underscored by Justice Kavanaugh in his concurrence, is that abortion can be found nowhere in the Constitution. The parchment is neutral on the issue. The supporters of an abortion right claim to have found it in the due process clause of the 14th Amendment, which was ratified in 1868. But until the latter part of the 20th century, the idea of a right to abortion could be found nowhere in American law. No state constitutions included it, and until shortly before Roe no court had recognized such a right. Justice Harry Blackmun ignored that history and invented the right in Roe.

Casey entrenched Roe in 1992, yet it did so without considering that history, while asserting that abortion was part of a gauzy right to privacy that includes “intimate and personal choices.” The three controlling Justices in Casey sought to balance that right against the “potential life” of a baby in the womb.

But their judgment of how to strike that balance supplanted the moral choices of millions of Americans. “Our Nation’s historical understanding of ordered liberty does not prevent the people’s elected representatives from deciding how abortion should be regulated,” writes Justice Alito.

The three dissenting Justices claim the majority has steamrolled the doctrine of stare decisis, or respect for precedent. But Justice Alito’s opinion deals step by step with the Court’s traditional stare decisis analysis, and his most telling point is that Roe and Casey haven’t come close to settling the issue.

The controlling Justices in Casey went so far as to make an essentially political plea that Americans let their ruling settle the abortion issue. It was a futile attempt to end debate on a question that touches people at their deepest moral convictions. Abortion continues to roil American politics, and states continue to pass laws challenging the logic of both opinions. When a ruling is still controversial and unworkable after five decades, that is compelling evidence it was wrongly decided.

Chief Justice John Roberts writes in a concurrence that the Court did not have to overturn Roe to uphold Mississippi’s ban on abortion after 15 weeks in this case. He says this would have been more judicially modest and less jolting to the public.

We agree on his point about upholding the Mississippi law, but such a halfway ruling would only have been a legal holding action. More states would have written more laws that would have challenged Roe and Casey, and sooner or later the Court would have had to overrule both or uphold some remnant of them as settled law. Better to take this opportunity to return the issue to the states sooner rather than later.

The political left is making much of Justice Clarence Thomas’s argument in a concurrence that the Court should revisit all of its precedents that are based on the use of substantive due process to find rights in the Constitution. That includes precedents on contraception and gay marriage.

Substantive due process is a long-time preoccupation of Justice Thomas, and we respect him for it. But the doctrine is also deeply embedded in countless Court precedents that have far better stare decisis claims than does Roe. Overturning the Obergefell ruling on gay marriage, for example, would jeopardize hundreds of thousands of legal marriage contracts. That’s the definition of a reliance-interest justification for upholding a precedent. Justice Thomas also acknowledges in his concurrence that abortion is different from these cases, and note that no other Justice joined his opinion.

Which brings us back to the politics of abortion and democracy. The debate will now shift from courts to the political branches, which should be healthy for the judiciary. Democrats made clear on Friday that they will make abortion rights a major campaign theme in the midterm elections, and President Biden declared that “this is not over.”

Fair enough. Both sides of the abortion debate will now have to achieve their policy goal the old-fashioned way—through persuasion, not judicial fiat. Some in the pro-life movement want Congress to ban abortion nationwide. But that will strike many Americans as hypocritical after decades of Republican claims that repealing Roe would return the issue to the states.

A national ban may also be an unconstitutional intrusion on state police powers and federalism. Imposing the abortion values of Mississippi or Texas on all 50 states could prove to be as unpopular as New York or California trying to do the same for abortion rights.

One tragedy of Roe is that it pre-empted an abortion debate that was moving in the states a half century ago. That debate can now resume. Some states will ban it in most cases, while others like California may seek to pay for the abortions of women from other states.

It will take awhile, and more than one election, but we hope that eventually the public through its legislators will find a tolerable consensus, if not exactly common ground. That’s the best we can ask for in our imperfect republic, if we can keep it.

cohenite
June 25, 2022 3:30 pm

OldOzziesays:
June 25, 2022 at 3:22 pm
Abortion Goes Back to the People

Indeed. RvW was always about US federalism. The original federal structure of the US gave more power to the states. The commies since then have strived to centralise power, as is the case in Australia, and Roe was fundamental to that. This rectification is consistent with the original intent of the framers of the constitution.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 25, 2022 3:33 pm

Insurrection at the Arizona state house.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 25, 2022 4:01 pm

Show me a human that can live in water for 9 months.

I don’t get it, we all did. Or is that the point.

Whether the foetus is a human being is a matter of choosing a definition and is irrelevant. What is beyond dispute is that killing it is preventing the existence of a fully human life at some future point. Say forty years later, if you’re cynical. So abortion of a foetus is undeniably the abortion, cutting short, of a human life. Turning a ‘clump of cells’ into a might-have-been. Denying life to some potentially fully human being.

You have to be unbelievably crass not to think this is an evil thing to do. It might, in some circumstances, be a lesser evil, but it’s always horrible.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 25, 2022 4:04 pm

Real Art is the best way to go IMHO

How about a giant metallic purple dog dropping?

A Massive Jeff Koons Balloon Sculpture Is Being Auctioned to Raise Millions for Humanitarian Aid to Ukraine (10 Jun)

On June 28, Christie’s will begin taking bids for Balloon Monkey (Magenta) at its 20th/21st Century: London Evening Sale. Current owners, billionaire Victor Pinchuk and his wife Olena Pinchuk, are selling the sculpture to raise funds for humanitarian aid for those directly impacted by the war in Ukraine. Proceeds from the sale will be used to assist soldiers and civilians that have been wounded during the conflict and require prosthetics, medical treatment and rehabilitation services. The massive artwork, which is nearly 20 feet tall, is expected to fetch up to $12.6 million when it crosses the block.

Oops, sorry it’s a balloon monkey not a dog dropping. Easy mistake to make.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 25, 2022 4:11 pm

DrBeauGansays:
June 25, 2022 at 4:01 pm

Well said.

Cassie of Sydney
June 25, 2022 4:28 pm

“DrBeauGansays:
June 25, 2022 at 4:01 pm”

I think you’ve said it best.

Cassie of Sydney
June 25, 2022 4:41 pm

“Absolutely sick to death of these people trying to herd conservatives into their trash defeatist positions.”

Yep…and it’s usually other so called conservatives doing the herding.

JMH
JMH
June 25, 2022 4:43 pm

Zyconoclastsays:
June 25, 2022 at 3:03 pm

BOSTON (AP) — A Connecticut woman who says she’s descended from slaves who are portrayed in widely published, historical photos owned by Harvard University can sue the school for emotional distress, Massachusetts’ highest court ruled Thursday.

FFS!
When will the idiocy stop? Don’t bother answering. I already know the bloody answer.

John Sheldrick
June 25, 2022 4:54 pm

New Post up………………………

John Sheldrick
June 25, 2022 5:04 pm

Old Leftysays:
June 25, 2022 at 2:59 pm
And then there is the silence over the judiciary in Victoria and Queensland becoming practically a sub-branch of the ALP.

Well, Vic Pol are most certainly in Dan the Dustbin Man’s pockets.

Cassie of Sydney
June 25, 2022 5:05 pm

“Rockdoctorsays:
June 25, 2022 at 3:14 pm
Gets worse Old Lefty, NSW Liberal Speakman just appointed the AG from the Obeid & Mac Donald years as ICAC commissioner. Dracula and blood bank come to mind…”

Stupid stupid fucking Liberals.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 25, 2022 5:08 pm

More great art…
A giant black comb with a fist handle

Mayor LaToya Cantrell
@mayorcantrell

As Juneteenth approaches, we celebrated with an unveiling in Lafayette Sq.?????
This sculpture is very fitting for this time & place as we celebrate the freedoms that we have gained

We know that it doesn’t come without struggles, fights, and protests for 200+ years

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 25, 2022 5:24 pm

As Juneteenth approaches, we celebrated with an unveiling in Lafayette Sq.?????
This sculpture is very fitting for this time & place as we celebrate the freedoms that we have gained

Come on, man, this is extremely funny. If Ricky Gervais had said it, you’d have laughed your socks off.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
June 25, 2022 5:35 pm

Overturning the Obergefell ruling on gay marriage, for example, would jeopardize hundreds of thousands of legal marriage contracts.

Similarly to Roe, overturning Obergefell* wouldn’t in itself change anything. It would only restore the proper primacy of the democratically elected legislature over issues like this.

The effect of an overturning of Obergefell on existing gay “marriages” is exactly the kind of factor which ought to be left to the legislature, with all its powers to gather data and seek public and expert input, and its legislative authority to enact transitional rules if it thinks fit.

* Overturning the effect of Obergefell, I mean. The majority judgments are so bereft of anything remotely resembling legal reasoning that there’s really no legal precept to be overturned.

Dot
Dot
June 25, 2022 5:42 pm

Overturning the Obergefell ruling on gay marriage, for example, would jeopardize hundreds of thousands of legal marriage contracts

Every single decision of a court of superior record can jeopardise someone’s claims or perceived claims.

The decision should be in the hands of each state legislature or up to a plebiscite. That’s what Amendment X decrees.

Enumerated powers of Congress. Section 51.

Centralisation of power ought to be reviled.

JC
JC
June 25, 2022 6:00 pm

Tim

The effect of an overturning of Obergefell on existing gay “marriages” is exactly the kind of factor which ought to be left to the legislature, with all its powers to gather data and seek public and expert input, and its legislative authority to enact transitional rules if it thinks fit.

I think overturning Wade, or at least handing back to the states is different to the gay marriage issue. To be somewhat coarse as it’s hard to explain it in any other way. There’s a finality to abortion. The kid is killed off and the mother can continue on with her life. There’s an end.

Gay marriage is different in the sense that two people have married, co-mingled their assets most likely and theoretically act out their lives as a married couple do. Bringing this to an end would likely cause all sorts of hardships that we could only begin to understand once gay marriage is overturned. Okay, it would be handing it back to the states as was done with the abortion issue. However, what would happen in those states that legislated against gay marriage. Would they also cause existing gay marriages to be dissolved? Would they recognize gay marriages in the blue states of people moved? It’s not that simple.

rickw
rickw
June 25, 2022 6:15 pm

Elbow to visit Ukrainian!

Hopefully Russian arty is up to the task.

John Sheldrick
June 25, 2022 6:15 pm

cohenitesays:
June 25, 2022 at 5:24 pm
Shock horror, obuma calls for an insurrection over Roe.

LOL. And OBummer was supposed to have been educated in the Law? He obviously has no understanding of the US Constitution and of the difference between Constitutional law and Statutory law……………Wot’ a corrupt ‘plonker’ he is.

JC
JC
June 25, 2022 6:17 pm

And OBummer was supposed to have been educated in the Law? He obviously has no understanding of the US Constitution and of the difference between Constitutional law and Statutory law……………Wot’ a corrupt ‘plonker’ he is.

He claimed to have specialized in constitutional law.

Delta A
Delta A
June 25, 2022 6:22 pm

However, what would happen in those states that legislated against gay marriage.

It’s not that simple.

It is simple, JC.

There is no such thing as homosexual ‘marriage’. Where states legislated against this, they are now free to ban or approve these ‘marriages’ as the voters see fit.

Homosexual unions should not be persecuted and the people involved should be covered by legal rights as per a defacto union. But they are not marriages.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 25, 2022 6:25 pm

2 dead, 14 injured in mass shooting at gay club in Norway

Gaybar shooter known to the Norwegian Police Security Service.
But of course.

JC
JC
June 25, 2022 6:25 pm

Well actually there is from a legal perspective, Delta. The law of the land recognizes gay marriage and people acted on that.

Delta A
Delta A
June 25, 2022 6:38 pm

JC, I was addressing your comment:

However, what would happen in those states that legislated against gay marriage.

Homosexual marriage is not endorsed in the American Constitution. As with abortion, it should be a state issue, decided by the electorate.

The rest of my comment dealt with personal beliefs. I do not support abortion. I do not support homosexual ‘marriage’. However, I would not support punishments for anyone caught up in these situations.

cohenite
June 25, 2022 6:38 pm
Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
June 25, 2022 6:50 pm

However, what would happen in those states that legislated against gay marriage. Would they also cause existing gay marriages to be dissolved? Would they recognize gay marriages in the blue states of people moved? It’s not that simple.

Maybe not (at least re interstate issues), but those are exactly the kinds of issues that ought to be left to the legislature. Any US state legislature which wished to do so could continue to recognise gay “marriage” precisely because of those factors, even if it might otherwise have abolished it. And if it does abolish gay “marriage” it will inevitably have to cater for those concerns when it does so.

Re existing gay “marriages” – such a legislature might well provide that existing gay “married” couples will continue to have exactly the same rights and obligations as they would have had but for the abolition – i.e. a normal transitional law. If it doesn’t it will have to provide some other regime for addressing the issue.

Re interstate gay “marriages” – there’s a whole area of law called “conflict of laws” about how any one jurisdiction will or won’t recognise the laws of another jurisdiction. As between states in a federation it’s usually governed in part by “full faith and credit” provisions in the federal constitution. There’s nothing unusual about a state in a federation having to determine how (if at all) it recognises rights and obligations created under laws elsewhere in the federation that don’t have a counterpart in that state.
I’m not saying there’s a nice simple one line answer about gay “marriage”, but if there’s a federation at all interstate “conflict of laws” issues are just a day to day part of life. (And even where marriage is a nationally based system like here in Australia, cross-border issues like that arise all the time, e.g. how does Australia deal with legal issues arising in relation to polygamous marriages allowed in some foreign countries, or marriages that would be forbidden under our consanguinity rules, etc.)
If the Court finds that a constitutional right to gay “marriage” doesn’t exist – which very clearly it doesn’t* – it would be wrong of the Court to continue to force it on every state on the assumption that state legislatures shouldn’t be allowed to decide how to deal with the issue.

* Read the majority decisions in Obergefell. Anyone of intelligence, even with no legal training at all, ought to be able to see what utterly bogus drivel they are.
Consider also – the abolition of slavery required an amendment to the Constitution, but Obergefell says gay “marriage” was a right all along. So if Obergefell is right, before the Civil War a gay slave wasn’t entitled to be free, but was (if he had only known) entitled to a gay wedding.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 25, 2022 7:02 pm

2 dead, 14 injured in mass shooting at gay club in Norway

Gaybar shooter known to the Norwegian Police Security Service.

But it is such a safe country!

Norway Is The Best Place In The World For Women To Live (Afghanistan Not So Much) (24 Jun)

Norway has topped the list as the best place for women to live, followed by Finland, Iceland and Denmark, according to the latest report by the Georgetown Institute for Women, Peace and Security.

The UK follows in 9th place out of the ranked 170 countries, with the U.S. in 21st position.

At the other end of the spectrum, Afghanistan ranks in last place on the global index.

One wonders, then, why they seem to want to turn Norway into Afghanistan. Maybe someone could ask the denizens of the no go zones in Oslo about this.

cohenite
June 25, 2022 7:02 pm

Some great memes here.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2022 7:04 pm

Elbow to visit Ukrainian!

Hopefully Russian arty is up to the task.

Any Russian snipers taking bids?

rickw
rickw
June 25, 2022 7:06 pm

It’s not that simple.

I think it is.

The “marriage” is annulled. What the people involved do from there is up to them. But whatever they do, they’re not married.

Roger
Roger
June 25, 2022 7:16 pm

The “marriage” is annulled. What the people involved do from there is up to them. But whatever they do, they’re not married.

Void ab initio.

There are legal precedents for determining the legal status of children, property, etc. justly.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 25, 2022 7:16 pm

They aren’t married anyway. All they’ve got is a certificate from the government saying they are.

rosie
rosie
June 25, 2022 7:28 pm

Exactly Drbg.

Frank
Frank
June 25, 2022 7:35 pm

Elbow to visit Ukrainian!

His staffer responsible for digital media probably wants to spice up the prime ministerial instagram account. Shame if he got shot in the arse.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2022 7:41 pm

Shame if he got shot in the arse.

It’s where his personality is concentrated.

Old bloke
Old bloke
June 25, 2022 8:26 pm

Elbow to visit Ukrainian!

The Russians are shelling Kiev according to this report, sound like it was a tit-for-tat reprisal for Ukrainian shelling of civilians in Donetsk.

Elbow should take a hard hat if he’s going to Kiev.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2022 8:31 pm

Daily Mail

Jason Roberts was 21 when he was jailed over the cold-blooded slaying of two cops in 1998. Twenty years later he could soon be a free man after epic retrial heard crucial police evidence was omitted in the case

Jason Roberts was ordered a re-trial over two alleged murders in 1998
He was jailed for shooting dead Sgt Gary Silk and Snr Constable Rodney Miller
Roberts was convicted in 2003 but has been on trial for a second time
Bandali Debs, who was found guilty of the murders, has given evidence in trial
Roberts also took to the witness box to deny any role in the double murders
Former homicide squad detective cast doubt on statements that led to his arrest

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 25, 2022 8:32 pm

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES: Shocking photos show men with ARROWS pierced through their arms and legs after 20 crossbows were ‘stolen’ and used in a fight in troubled Indigenous comm

pssh …. a decent crossbow will go all the way through a deer, these are all pretty low energy hits

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 25, 2022 8:33 pm

John Sheldrick at 6:15.
Agree 100%.
Good comment.

Bruce in WA
June 25, 2022 8:47 pm

pssh …. a decent crossbow will go all the way through a deer, these are all pretty low energy hits

Yes, they’re longbow arrows, not crossbow bolts.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 25, 2022 8:51 pm

Bruce in WAsays:
June 25, 2022 at 8:47 pm
pssh …. a decent crossbow will go all the way through a deer, these are all pretty low energy hits

Yes, they’re longbow arrows, not crossbow bolts.

Still look to be pretty low energy hits.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2022 9:03 pm

Yes, they’re longbow arrows, not crossbow bolts.

Still cultural appropriation, the indigenous had neither longbows or crossbows.

Bruce in WA
June 25, 2022 9:04 pm

Still look to be pretty low energy hits.

Yes, absolutely. That broadhead through the outside of the knee should have zipped straight through. I have a few of those; you can literally shave with them.

Bruce in WA
June 25, 2022 9:09 pm

Still cultural appropriation, the indigenous had neither longbows or crossbows.

ZK2A! I’m shocked at you! That’s Indigenous, with a capital I!

John Sheldrick
June 25, 2022 9:09 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
June 25, 2022 at 12:03 am
Third Test. Pomland.

NZ made 329, easy peasy Japanesey.

The Poms are 6/55. Glorious.

Day 3 now and England lead by a couple of runs. Remarkable batting from England. Glorious.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 25, 2022 9:17 pm

Remarkable batting from England. Glorious.

Yes it is. Bairstow on 160+ reds so far and Broad on the other end of the long handle.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2022 9:19 pm

ZK2A! I’m shocked at you! That’s Indigenous, with a capital I!

I habitually refer to the Indigenous, using titles that may be less then respectful – fortunately, I have yet to encounter any that speak Afrikaans.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 25, 2022 9:29 pm

Bad news for the Christian taliban.
Steph is coming for you.

Indolent
Indolent
June 25, 2022 9:31 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 25, 2022 9:35 pm

On This Day:

1876 – Battle of the Little Bighorn and the death of Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custer

An insurrection against Big Government, whose leader’s words – ‘Where did all these fucking Indians come from?’ – later became the global 7/11 mission statement.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2022 9:39 pm

‘Where did all these fucking Indians come from?’

It’s probably about then that Custer wished he hadn’t left the Gatling Guns behind..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 25, 2022 9:48 pm

1876 – Battle of the Little Bighorn and the death of Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custer

Who could forget The Alamo?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 25, 2022 9:51 pm

‘Where did all these fucking Indians come from?’ 

And then exclaimed, “We are in trouble, Tonto!”
To which Tonto replied, “What’s this ‘we’, paleface?”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 25, 2022 9:51 pm

Was Tonto at the Alamo, though?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2022 9:57 pm

Anyway, “Sliante.”

Mme Zulu is out of hospital, and convalescing at home. Painfully thin, but the medico says that its not unusual for those who have had similar treatment to be “on liquids” for anywhere up to six or seven weeks…

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 25, 2022 10:03 pm

Yes, they’re longbow arrows, not crossbow bolts.

Sounds like an Agincout reenactment club.
Well done lads. Keeping the 1415s alive!!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2022 10:06 pm

Was Tonto at the Alamo, though?

I do recall some uproar, when it emerged that “Tonto” was Spanish for “Fool.”

Eddystone
Eddystone
June 25, 2022 10:15 pm

cohenite says:
June 25, 2022 at 7:02 pm

Some great memes here.

For some reason this one really makes me chuckle.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 25, 2022 10:24 pm

ZK2A -Best wishes to Mrs Zulu and your good self.

Tell her to just keep on punching.

Franx
Franx
June 25, 2022 10:28 pm

Best wishes to the ZK2A household, and so well done Mme Z.

Bruce in WA
June 25, 2022 10:36 pm

1876 – Battle of the Little Bighorn and the death of Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custer

We visited the Little Big Horn site. Custer and his troops never stood a chance; it’s a plain windswept hill with no cover whatsoever. So much so that the troops shot their horses to try to hide behind them.

There’s a life-size pony soldier model in the museum … God, they were little! Most of them just mid-5 footers and very very slight build.

Bruce in WA
June 25, 2022 10:37 pm

All the best to you and the memsahib, ZK2A … keep fighting!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2022 10:45 pm

We visited the Little Big Horn site

Little Big Horn and several Civil War battlefields were on the bucket list – Madame Zulu allows me my pastime of walking over old battlefields. Isandlewana, Arnhem and the Somme were three of the most evocative.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2022 10:47 pm

All the best to you and the memsahib, ZK2A … keep fighting!

Thanks, Bruce. All the best to you and yours.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 25, 2022 10:49 pm

Apologies – thanks also to Franx and the Barking Toad, for your good wishes. This is the Cat – no one bleeds alone.

Megan
Megan
June 25, 2022 11:21 pm

Best wishes to you and Mrs Zulu. May her recovery in the familiar surroundings of home be rapid and complete.

Winston Smith
June 26, 2022 3:27 am

Dover Beach:

BTW, why were Macron, Trudeau and Johnson so eager to give their two bobs worth re Dobbs? Sort of indicates the position of the global elite.

Relevance Deprivation Syndrome.

Tom
Tom
June 26, 2022 4:01 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2022 4:09 am

Thanks Tom.
The preamble to WiP is very good.

win
win
June 26, 2022 4:17 am

Zyclonocast 3pm. It has been said that the Maori are not the indigenous people of NZ they are arrivals to the land of the long white cloud as there have been others.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 26, 2022 4:40 am

Why are there 20 pallets of bricks one block from the House Office Buildings?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 26, 2022 4:45 am

The Maori have been there since they invaded around 1400 AD.
They dispossessed the Moriori, and the remnant sailed to the Auckland Islands Group.
The Maori didn’t find them until 1836, when they continued to murder, rape and enslave the Moriori.
The Moriori were not Polynesians.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 26, 2022 6:44 am

Pelosi really is a dirty old woman in every sense. How come us politics is infested with these repulsive geriatric crooks?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 26, 2022 7:03 am

She was a pretty good sort back in 1956 when Senator Jack Kennedy was riding her hard.
But, yeah, her family were Baltimore Gangsters for Generations,
her older brother was the only one of 14 not convicted for an horrific Pack Rape in the 1950s.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 26, 2022 7:09 am

Congress has been bought by the Finance and Real Estate interests.
So long as they stay bought, they’ve got a job forever.

Abortion Laws, Gun Rights, BLM, Antifa, it’s just Bread & Circuses for the Masses, to take their attention away from reality.

The reality that they’re being robbed to finance the Bank/Real Estate Free Lunch.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 26, 2022 7:18 am

Street cleaning in France.
Spot the wendyball player.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 26, 2022 7:26 am

Apart from the Fox universe, there is a media blackout on the Arizona statehouse riots.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 26, 2022 7:30 am

The legacy meja has morphed into Pravda and isvestia.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 26, 2022 7:35 am

NY Times has a decent column on the CIA’s increasingly overt presence in Ukraine.
It reminds me of when they ran a small column on an alleged NSA data collection program at the end of the George W Bush years.
They then referred to that small one-off column non stop when the Snowden story broke years later as them originally breaking the story.

rickw
rickw
June 26, 2022 7:40 am

Don’t worry Ed, they’ve fixed there error with respect to the Moriori. Can’t have any of the recent lot painted as brutal invaders.

During the late 19th century some prominent anthropologists mistakenly proposed that Moriori were pre-M?ori settlers of mainland New Zealand, and possibly Melanesian in origin.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 26, 2022 7:43 am

The thing I’m most concerned with Wade v Roe is how are cocks in frocks going to terminate pregnancy now? It’s just not fair.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 26, 2022 7:45 am

There may have been a hint of sarcasm in my last comment, but only a hint. I wouldn’t want to trigger anyone.

rickw
rickw
June 26, 2022 7:45 am

how are cocks in frocks going to terminate pregnancy now

It’s very messy, but we have the technology!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 26, 2022 7:50 am

What’s the Russian saying Miltonf, there’s no news in Pravda and no truth in Isvestia?

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 26, 2022 7:55 am

It’s extraordinary that the USA has become so like its former nemesis the USSR. Imprisoned political dissenters, geriatric corruptocrats and all

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
June 26, 2022 7:58 am

Knuckle Draggersays:
June 25, 2022 at 9:35 pm
On This Day:

1876 – Battle of the Little Bighorn and the death of Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custer

What did Colonel Custer and Saddam Hussein have in common? They both wondered where the hell all those Tomahawks were coming from.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 26, 2022 8:04 am

During the late 19th century some prominent anthropologists mistakenly proposed that Moriori were pre-Maori settlers of mainland New Zealand, and possibly Melanesian in origin.

The Moriori did predate the Maori invasion, but they weren’t Melanesian racially, having white skin, red hair, a gigantic stature and democratic decision making.
I’ve been told that there are still a few [mixed Race] Moriori in the South Island.

Tom
Tom
June 26, 2022 8:04 am

Apart from the Fox universe, there is a media blackout on the Arizona statehouse riots.

To get around the Google censorship, apart from using Duck Duck Go, it helps to know the name of the local newspapers, like Phoenix’s The Western Journal:

In events reminiscent of the Jan. 6 incursion at the national Capitol, pro-abortion protesters tried to break into the Arizona state Senate in Phoenix Friday night while the legislature was still in session.

The protest took an aggressive tone at about 8:45 p.m., when protesters began banging on the windows of the Arizona Senate and trying to break the glass, according to the Arizona Department of Public Safety.
Republican Sen. Kelly Townsend called the incident a “hostage” situation.
“We are currently there being held hostage inside the Senate building due to members of the public trying to breach our security,” Townsend tweeted Friday night. “We smell tear gas and the children of one of the members are in the office sobbing with fear.”
“Appalling to hear some Democrats defending those outside trying to break the glass and breach security,” she also wrote.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 26, 2022 8:04 am

Rick if you are using the murray pine for yourself I’d cut it thicker for floor boards. I’ve got it in my coast house and it scratches easily. I sanded and refinished it only to have wife move furniture without lifting. Grrrr. Mate ran off weatherboards, really looked good. Took a lot linseed for the first 2 years.

Tom
Tom
June 26, 2022 8:05 am

Link.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 26, 2022 8:18 am

As I say the so called democratic party is a bigger threat to Australians and Americans than Putin ever will be.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 26, 2022 8:33 am

Right Miltonf, the enemy within is always worse than the enemy without.

Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2022 8:36 am
Miltonf
Miltonf
June 26, 2022 8:38 am

True and the geriatric corruptocrats have an army of rabble, vandals, street fighters and thugs they appear to be able to mobilize very quickly.

Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2022 8:42 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2022 8:45 am

Republican Sen. Kelly Townsend called the incident a “hostage” situation.

She’s good.

Senator Kelly Townsend ??@AZKellyT
We are currently there being held hostage inside the Senate building due to members of the public trying to breach our security. We smell teargas and the children of one of the members are in the office sobbing with fear. I expect a J24 committee to be created immediately.
1:56 PM · Jun 25, 2022

Any comment from AOC or Lou Correa yet..?

Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2022 8:48 am

Sudden Adult [Vaccine] Death Syndrome: Excess Deaths in Australia are up 18% since the start of 2022 but only 6% of all deaths have been attributed to COVID-19

The other day I saw a vaguely familiar middle-aged woman in a coffee shop. Not an acquaintance but someone I had seen around multiple times. She looked like death warmed over. Almost bemused looking, moving stiffly and awkwardly with a rather dazed appearance. Guess the first thought in my mind? Nothing scientific about this and obviously I don’t have any direct knowledge but, unfortunately, all too often it’s the correct conclusion.

custard
custard
June 26, 2022 8:50 am

H/T Bio Clandestine telegram

People have been reaching out to me about the video of Putin being rushed to The Kremlin. Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov just publicly refuted the claims that Putin would be giving some sort of emergency speech, but did not refute that he was in fact rushed to The Kremlin.

Over the past couple of days, Russia has been dealing with an escalating situation with Lithuania, over a railroad blockade of food supply from Kaliningrad to Russian ally Belarus, via the Suwalki Corridor.

The US are publicly backing Lithuania, and NATO countries are supplying troops all along the Russian border in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland. Over the past couple days, Russia has warned repeatedly that if the blockade is not removed, they will have to resort to “non-diplomatic solutions”.

So is something going on in Russia? Absolutely, and we all should be paying attention. One false step, and this proxy war could turn into something else entirely.

-Clandestine

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2022 8:52 am

Fun how the journo quoted her whole tweet except for that last sentence…
I saw it yesterday somewhere, it was very funny.

Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2022 8:53 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2022 8:55 am

This is what it’s really all about.

Pfizer CEO calls for annual COVID vaccine to achieve greater ‘compliance’

In a just world he’d be behind bars, not telling us what to do.

Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2022 9:01 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2022 9:03 am

Trudeau: Unvaccinated Accepted ‘Consequences’ Like Losing Jobs and Access To Travel

And then he dared open his mouth about bodily autonomy and loss of rights in relation to abortion. Hypocrisy just doesn’t cover it.

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2022 9:04 am

Pfizer CEO calls for annual COVID vaccine to achieve greater ‘compliance’

???

COVID was detected in samples of sewage in Spain from 2019. Being endemic for this long, there is no need for any further public health initiatives.

Why does anyone listen to the Pfizer CEO?

He has less credibility than Theranos or Clive Palmer’s nephew.

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2022 9:06 am

Hypocrisy is Trudeau’s stock in trade.

Hilarious how the media like to portray Trump as privileged. They literally enable Trudeau’s misguided authoritarianism.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
June 26, 2022 9:08 am

Jab jab booster……………………

Just to be crystal clear on this point, as I said on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on January 23, 2022;

“Regarding the genetic COVID vaccines, the science is settled.

They are not working, and they are not completely safe.

Now we have Omicron. These vaccines were designed for the Original Wuhan strain, a different virus. Whether they made sense for protecting our elderly and frail from the original virus is irrelevant. So let’s stop arguing about that. We must look forward.

These vaccines do not prevent Omicron infection, viral replication, or spread to others. In our daily lives, with our friends, with our families, we all know that this is true.

These genetic vaccines are leaky, have poor durability, and even if every man, woman, and child in the United States were vaccinated, these products cannot achieve herd immunity and stop COVID. They are not completely safe, and the full nature of the risks remain unknown.”

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/immune-imprinting-comirnaty-and-omicron?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 26, 2022 9:10 am

In a just world he’d be behind bars, not telling us what to do.

Swinging from a rope would be just. I’d pull the handle on the trapdoor, if I was feeling merciful that day, otherwise it’s “hoist him up boys!”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 26, 2022 9:12 am
Dot
Dot
June 26, 2022 9:16 am

Ralph Cifaretto tells the Custer Joke in his usual style.

https://youtu.be/V_z_7KEAnsE

It’s Remarkable
It’s Remarkable
June 26, 2022 9:17 am

Vicki, from yesterday:
Some advice would be appreciated. Re internet and Optus mucking about with your email…
We are also considered remote, but are a similar distance from Sydney and Canberra as you are from Sydney.

Check out Starlink. We have it and so far is nothing short of brilliant. The dish will cost around $800, then it is $139 per month for unlimited data. Data speeds of over 100 megabit per second.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 9:23 am

Bruce of Newcastle says:
June 26, 2022 at 8:52 am
Fun how the journo quoted her whole tweet except for that last sentence…
I saw it yesterday somewhere, it was very funny.

It was a selective Titus’ing, fester. I’m surprised as you know the drill.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2022 9:25 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 26, 2022 9:27 am

ALP recipe for reliable energy: add renewables

Energy Minister Chris Bowen says the key to addressing long-term challenges in the electricity sector is to pump more renewables into the system.

Can anyone post what the Loony said?

Thanks

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 26, 2022 9:33 am

The Court Finally Rectifies a Hideous Legal Blunder Matt Purple, The Spectator

Set aside your opinions about abortion for a moment. Throw down the fluttering placards about “THE PRO-LIFE GENERATION” and “KEEP ABORTION LEGAL”; avert your eyes from the demonstrators praying outside Planned Parenthood. And ask yourself this: was Roe v. Wade good law? Was it sound that a “right to privacy” was conjured out of pseudo-constitutional dust and then used to overturn abortion laws in all fifty states?

custard
custard
June 26, 2022 9:34 am

Fun fact:
President Trump is holding a rally tonight in Quincy, Illinois.
The city goes by the nickname Qtown.

8pm EST (US)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2022 9:38 am

Eleventy!

Bill Clinton: Abortion Decision Threatens Democracy (24 Jun)

Maybe ask your wife about such things Bill.

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