Spooner’s good. This made me LOL. Love the identity politics being thrown out of the window. Defenestrated.
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The Slovenian Hag – made famous by Tinta.
I use comm bank ATM to withdraw cash from my building society free of charge. Their propaganda suggests they don’t…
Speaking of which, we now have the US, China & India placing their national interest ahead of cutting emissions and…
In a bookshop recently, can’t remember which one, Australian section, 95% female authors, I’d never heard of most. Jane Harper…
I have. The shame and the sorrow and self-blame is off the scale, particularly if they are having trouble conceiving or multiple subsequent miscarriages.
Now that full 3D images of in utero babies at all stages are readily available, they know exactly what they’ve done. No good hiding behind the “clump of cells” garbage.
Strap in, dis, gun be good.
Wandering uterus is wandering.
The radical reign of Clarence Thomas
Maureen Dowd
New York Times columnist
Just the Gotterdammerung words..
distraught, corrosive chain, losing control, benighted outlier, dismal saga, opportunism, fanaticism, mendacity, concupiscence, hypocrisy and cowardice, restrictive, ultraconservative, ugliness, tormenting, dirty talk, pornographic, viciously ripped apart, white men, perjuring erotomaniac, a liar, a pervert and a sexual harasser, right-wing radicals, lurid sexual transgressions, family-values, religious right, Valhalla, minions, host body, jammed, fervour, dissembled, fanatical, chillingly, cruel, pushing, coup, firebrand, coup, extremists, yanked, terrifying, epidemic, chipped away, out of control, powerless, unaccountable extremists dictating, revolting.
I have to highlight this bit of uterine screeching
They pushed through three conservative justices – one had to defend himself against sexual assault charges and one was in a weird Handmaid’s Tale-style sect – and that was checkmate for Roe.
…
Oh wait, she says this like its a bad thing..
And next, they will get around to removing environmental protections and gutting the government’s ability to regulate and restrict business rights.
areff, Zoe’s law is certainly a minefield for pro-aborts which is why the don’t like it at all.
Cohenite 2.39
In the Pelosi video, the girls in the extended photo shoot began to take up choreographed strutting and variations of other kinds of suggestive poses accompanied by alternatively cutesie and affected facial expressions. The little girls in their performance seemed practised in the art. Sad, yet funny, too, because while the little girls looked precociously savvy in making pretence to look sexually alluring, the great and fixedly grinning Pelosi with her her fitful elbow came over as grotesque indeed. The whole shoot was a study in corruption.
The double standard between Jan 6 and everything they tried to pin on Trump and what the left has done during Trump’s 4 years and now the Roe debacle is off the charts. Things to learn from it:
1 You can’t reason with the left; they have insurmountable barriers of emotion and ego
2 Left women are the most ghastly on the planet.
3 It is a good thing that left women rarely breed
4 To confront the left the old adage never bring a knife to a gunfight always applies.
5 Understand that the left never care about their nominated issues because of number 1.
6 The left are the enemy of the West and everything good in life. Treat them like that as per number 4.
Maureen Dowd is vile. Always has been.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/democrats-post-addresses-of-supreme-court-justices-and-bomb-instructions-on-tiktok/
Any bets on law enforcement following up?
Thought not……
And yet, they persist.
There are studies that contend that abortions don’t go down under prohibition, they just get harder and more expensive… and more dangerous to the woman. I don’t know if that’s true, but Dobbs will lead to lots of preventable deaths. Not to mention assaults and murders of women by men who don’t want the kid. But hey, the Court will probably repeal alimony laws at some stage…
Babylon vs. the rest, and we’re a branch-office of Babylon.
But hey, the Court will probably repeal alimony laws at some stage…
If anyone finds a stray uterus wandering around, its montys.
Go the full handmaidens tale monty, so we can mock and laugh at you more.
Hi Bruce- re the Optus New World Order:
Mate, what an astonishing verbal attack disguised as “for your own good”! We are truly entering a scary age. Just waiting for the Trusted Digitalisation legislation to be passed courtesy of the bastards who should be protecting us from the complete digitalisation of our personae.
Actually, husband encountered the authentification crap talking to Optus people today – the “one time” digital code etc – just to make sure you are who you say you are!
We are at a loss to know which way to proceed. I don’t think someone’s suggestion that we use Ports 465 or 587 is going to solve the problem as our computer geek tells us that Optus only uses Port 25. We will try it, though, before we pull the pin on Optus. Neighbour near us uses Gmail & iiTT & another ditched Active8 in favour of Starlink. But I think it is “see you later Optus” since the big O doesn’t seem to shake hands with either of them.
Babylon vs. the rest, and we’re a branch-office of Babylon.
Maybe we are the baddies?
I have known 3 girls that had abortions. One girl I met at a charity ball. She was beautiful. Within 20 mins she had told she fell pregnant in Year 12 and had an abortion. She and the boy both went to prestige private schools. Families both well off. Girl on track to do law at Sydney University. Anyway, she suffered a post procedure infection. Weeks in hospital. Lost her ability to ever have kids. Almost lost her life. The other 2 were older girls I knew when in banking. Both successful. Both made good money. Both fell pregnant to blokes they were dating. Both blokes when informed said yeah no worries I will give you the cash to take care of it. But girls tried to pretend it was for the best but both knew it was a horror. Both thought the respective bloke would say righto, best we settle down and make a go of it. Nope. They will carry the weight of it forever.
Re African leaders shunning Zelensky’s address:
I think its more a case of grifters can sniff another grifter from miles off.
Monty – You need to reread Genesis 3. If your own self is your god then no one else gets a say, particularly if the person concerned doesn’t have a voice yet.
This is unbelievable.
Hey Munt. Have you had enough #Winning yet? Trust me, you’re going to get bored of winning so much!
Regarding the coal, it was announced in March.
The contract was published on May 16th, $A32mill.
The details of the cargo have been kept secret for security reasons.
At some stage the cargo will land.
Or not.
Regardless of the intent behind the investigation & reporting, I think it’s good that there is some form of checking where taxpayer money goes.
Now we just need to check the apple tags on the Aussie hardware that’s been sent to Ukraine to ensure it hasn’t been on-sold.
Also: Siri, find my bushmaster.
That has been my experience with women who have done it. I imagine there is a type of woman to whom abortion doesn’t carry any weight, just like the act of intimacy itself. As significant as going to the toilet.
It may be that the numbers of this type of person are growing as our culture and self respect becomes more degraded and repulsive.
m0nty-fa
There are studies that contend that abortions don’t go down under prohibition, they just get harder and more expensive…
In these days of advocacy research, it is possible to find “studies” that purport to prove whatever anyone wants to pay for. They are principally tributes to the adage that “He who pays the piper calls the tune”.
In other news, I’ve been reading today about Japanese food standards versus the US & their vassal states like Australia.
Fascinating how the Japanese held a line that Australia was happy to bend over and cop.
More reading to be done.
No. Happens all the time. Another “concerned Republican” was outed a few days ago as a Democrat activist. This is the best thing about the current internet: much easier to unmask these people.
Dover
This is unbelievable.
Not really, look at the Liberal and National Parties here. Photios, Kean, Turdballs, various Nationals, and so on ad infinitum.
Crikey.
Usually it’s when PMs or Presidents get a bit bored with work in their second term that they start spending more and more time at international gabfests. It is also a sign of decline – they usually get booted when it becomes apparent that they are phoning it in.
Elbow’s Frequent Flyer points must already be assuring the family of a first class round the world trip, gratis.
Presumably he doesn’t think there are any pressing problems here that he needs to deal with. Postponing Parliament so that MPs could bond with their families over the school holidays helps.
That’s right, folks. We are all in Nirvana here, no need for the PM to show up for work.
Timothy Nielsen at 10:50.
Backhand return down the line for a winner!
Monty explodes every bansturbators argument
Professor Crapman will be setting alight to a burning bag of poo on your doorstep for this error monty.
There are studies that contend that smoking doesn’t go down under prohibition, they just get stronger and more expensive…
Not for me. I thought it obvious that the scum had been doing it for years, in Australia too.
monty just thr[ew] the ‘women’s choice’ argument out of the window. We must allow abortion in order to please men otherwise they might beat the woman that wants to keep the baby. monty is getting desperate here.
How about we just prosecute any man that assaults or murders a woman in order force her to procure an abortion or kill the child, respectively. It would be an additional charge to that of assault or murder. Like Zoe’s Law.
No, that would be completely counter-productive. You boxing at shadows. The ‘barstool’ types that fear this hate Dobbs as much as you do. Keep it in your pants boys or else.
Sussan Ley getting on Sky and calling SCOTUS outcome “a backward step for women” is one of the reasons the SFL lost.
‘Studies’, sadly, have squandered their reputations much in the same way that Universities have. I suspect there are websites like those that generate Human Resources gibberish by combining random buzzwords, only these ones produce ‘studies’ using predefined good words and bad words – and a number generator to provide statistics.
Same with experts. Lefties use use that title like that Jedi mind trick: “This man is an expert. He knows everything about it. You should believe whatever he says”. There was that article of Creighton’s someone posted the other day that addressed this perfectly well.
Not to mention assaults and murders of women by men who don’t want the kid.
This is absolutely correct!
Someone who’d assault a woman for that reason would never be bashing her anyway for other reasons.
And someone who’d commit a murder for that reason would never just do a runner on the woman instead (or kill her for some other reason anyway).
You KNOW it makes sense!
thefrollickingmolesays:
June 27, 2022 at 4:30 pm
Monty explodes every bansturbators argument
Professor Crapman will be setting alight to a burning bag of poo on your doorstep for this error monty.
There are studies that contend that smoking doesn’t go down under prohibition, they just get stronger and more expensive…
Actually, mole, given the way in which tobacco excise is regularly ramped up, we have reached the point where “chop-chop” is now cheaper than the legal product (and I will guarantee that the sellers of chop-chop are still making very substantial profits).
“The supreme court has dramatically overreached its authority,*” Ocascio-Cortez said. “This is a crisis of legitimacy.”
Like most ‘Pollies’, she does not understand the Law. Same with ‘OBummer’ and he is supposed to have studied Constitutional Law and to have worked as a lawyer.
Thank goodness for the Separation of Powers. Long may they live and be adhered to.
Of course men never get off lightly when they hurt women, in your dream fantasy world of make believe.
Where’s the outrage like when Morrison went on holiday? Plenty of pressing issues here that need dealing with.
Oh, that’s right. Wrong side of politics.
Albo knows exactly what will happen when he convenes Parliament with a government that campaigned on nothing, lost primary voters and is devoid of any form of mandate or political capital. No wonder he’s on the other side of the World.
Not for half the aborted babies it isn’t.
I suppose, like the Delcons, they don’t count.
miltonf at 11:26.
Yes.
Yuuuge WTF! moment for me when the plan to export illegals to Rwanda was taken to the European Court of Appeal.
Six whole years after Brexit.
And when there is an outcry, BloJo simply says, “Mmmyes. We should do something about that.”
NBC producers will have another lucrative new spin-off to pitch: Law & Order: Dobbs Victims Unit.
I’m not regretting spoiling my ballot one bit.
No synchronised swimming.
The excellent Tammy Bruce on the also excellent Next Revolution notes about the demorat’s reaction to Roe v Wade that she hasn’t seen them this angry since yesterday.
stupidity is contagious
People should be prepared for power outages – Consumer NZ
ARE YOU GETTING BORED OF WINNING YET MUNTY!!! (just wait till the Mid-Terms lol!!!)
Generally true Monty. Women who hurt men, though, do.
Women Can Be as Violent as Men (Augusto Zimmermann, 2018)
Amber Heard has recently done wonders for this issue. She’s fun!
Hey Munt. Have you had enough #Winning yet? Trust me, you’re going to get bored of winning so much!
‘Montypox virus’, in the words of Dr Spooner (spoonerism), “You are a shining wit”……………………….
Very true Mother. TheirABC often have “Dr” Bill Hare on who is apparently a Climate Scientist. But as Quadrant have shown, he has a Bachelors in Science, runs a ruinable company and has an honorary doctorate. (You really couldn’t make this shit up!)
Albo jetting all over the world. Seem to remember Whitlam doing similar. The piss-pot journos loved it.
Found: https://www.smh.com.au/world/australian-bushmasters-in-ukraine-20220621-h24kur.html
While it is presently fashionable to assume all hohols are corrupt forever because eastern europe and US Democrats since 2014, sometimes the meme is just literally a Russian lie…
That, and seeing a Californian- registered vehicle in Port Campbell, have been my two serendipitous highlights of the day.
‘bern, I saw that the other night when Tom posted a link to the local reporting of the Phoenix “J26 Insurrection” and I went a-scrollin’ around that website.
Sinc used to advocate vouchers being issued to parents which could be redeemed at any school of their choosing.
Teacher unions here would go into total meltdown if that was seriously suggested here.
Bilal Skaf and Baker & Crump got off lightly?
I didn’t know you supported capital punishment monty.
Yes, yes, light sentences are entirely the fault of conservatives. For years we have been undermining the element of retribution in sentencing. The projection about fantasy worlds is off the charts.
mUnter is a worse white-knighter than Liability Bob. There. I said it.
Less an armoured prince astride a white charger, more a portly hobo riding a flyblown wether into a dam.
Even most government departments, employers and universities don’t demand vaccination anymore.
The political theatre has run its course. COVID has been endemic since March 2019 and possibly as early as January 2018.
Your glee is for what? Against people power and for unchecked administrative law?
You are acting like Sir Richard Rich, Baron Leez, only more spitefully.
Same with experts. Lefties use use that title like that Jedi mind trick: “This man is an expert. He knows everything about it. You should believe whatever he says”. There was that article of Creighton’s someone posted the other day that addressed this perfectly well.
Experts theme song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8aHeYGo0JY
Now sometimes experts lend you money
And sometimes they lend you lots of money
And sometimes when the subprime mortgages collapse
And banks close and businesses fail
And the crisis spreads around the world–
Sometimes other experts say:
Just because aII the markets crashed
Doesn’t mean it’s necessarily a bad thing.
And other experts say: Just because aII your friends were fired
And your family’s broke and we didn’t see it coming
Doesn’t mean that we were wrong.
And just because you lost your job and your house
And all your savings doesn’t mean you don’t have to pay for the bailouts
For the traders and the bankers and the speculators.
Clause only an expert can design a bailout
And only an expert can expect a bailout
Cause only an expert can deal with the problem
And only an expert can deal with the problem
And only an expert can deal with the problem.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/defiant-pentagon-chief-says-will-evaluate-defense-department-policies-response-supreme-courts-decision-overturn-roe-v-wade/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailypm&utm_content=2022-06-26
Here’s a conundrum for them – the Armed Forces are under control of the Commander in Chief – President Biden.
The President is telling the troops that the Supreme Court can go to Hell.
Does anyone else see the legal/Constitutional disaster approaching?
Quite so.
His “high tech lynching” take-down of Biden during his confirmation hearing was a breathtaking counter-attack and still worth a look even today.
Especially today.
riding a flyblown wether into a dam.
A dorper wether at that.
areff, there is a third option which you choose not to recognise. Given that millions of women around the world have abortions every year, how come they are not blubbering wrecks or psychopaths, visible to all? Surely there would be an epidemic of women with serious psychiatric problems linked to their abortions?
The third option, not discussed in purist circles, is that women who have abortions just get on with life afterwards.
On your second point, without getting too autobiographical, I can attest that it is not always easy or possible to ‘make’ a man wear a frenchie, even when he has promised to do so. Indeed, prostitutes are offered premium prices for ‘bareback’ sex.
Conducting this discussion as if everybody always behaves well is ludicrous.
Teacher unions here would go into total meltdown if that was seriously suggested here.
It would never be considered here.
It’s fascinating to see the way the school voucher debate has evolved in the US over the past decade.
There are some real bad actors like Bill Gates (one lot of crack pot ideas) & Betsy DeVos (another lot of crack pot ideas).
The Arizona one literally is giving 100% of the decision making back to the parents.
School vouchers in the US is a really good filter considering it’s changed so much with different parties trying to game the system.
rexoid is still cheering on VZ, tell us again how badly the special op’s going?
she doesn’t even understand that the SCOTUS ruling basically brings abortion in line with the way it is legislated in Australia — by the states.
A great filter is Obamacare.
When you see the talking heads in Australia start talking about how it’s like Medicare here, it’s great to turn them off & remember they are no nothing retards the next time you see them on the box.
It really is amazing how people go on TV & speak as an authority when they literally know nothing about it.
You tell me, Vatnik.
8 years and 4 months, entire armies smashed and irreplaceable fleet units sunk, and it was only ever about those poor Donbass folks whom the holy and mighty and victorious Russians couldn’t even permanently secure on Day 1…
PS, thank fuck Betsy DeVos achieved nothing maintainable has Secretary of Education.
Another great Trump appointee.
I now have this image in my mind of Numbers riding around Vietnam in plate mail on a white horse.
Vicki, if you’re still using your optusnet email address, you may want to start notifying senders of a new address on Gmail, outlook, etc.
I’ve been using the outlook webmail for a while now and it’s largely been problem-free.
Still get emails on our optusnet address. Latest one was my WWC renewal, since it was a few years since I needed to do anything regarding it.
Sorry, I forgot that every russian death, capture, loss and failure in the last 122-odd days was just a feint…
(Shame even the Russians’ own most ardent supporters on Telegram admit that Ukrainian resistance has been fierce and unrelenting, Zippydoodah. And I’m sure that Igor Girkin, the Voice of the FSB amd thebreal power behind Vlad’s throne would be far more chipper if things were going as well as SouthFront and Geroman declare).
Conducting this discussion as if everybody always behaves well is ludicrous.
A good point, but the establishment of norms is a powerful signal to everyone that things outside that are not to be tolerated.
Apparently (according to experts) girls are pressured for anal sex/ expected to pornify sexual encounters etc.
That can be traced to ‘norms’ being set by internet porn channels and its handmaiden, sex positive feminism.
Far easier for a girl to say no if the bloke is aware that sticking it up her pooper will get him branded as a pervert instead of a stud or asking for certain acts is risky for him…
How about you stay out of other peoples’ sex lives, you pervert.
You first, Fat Man…
He did work out of an M113 APC once, and he didn’t like it very much cos it was petrol-powered and it was thus too much of a fire risk for his terribly sensitive swerves.
I seem to recall he didn’t take well to it being pointed out to him that the Australian Army only ever used the diesel powered M113A1. And a 3-way collective smacking between Mater, myself and either Zulu or Boambee John ensued…
Way back I was going out with a woman who told me, during a late night conversation, that she had had one a few years earlier. I could see that it still profoundly affected her.
Then I compare her to the likes of Clemmie Ford who reckons both her abortions were ‘bloody fantastic’ (Bloody for the unborn, fantastic for Clemmie who was spared growing up beyond her rebellious private high school girl who smokes and swears behind the toilet block persona).
Has anyone else noticed how many of the ‘pro-choice’ women are physically grotesque? When young they might have that natural beauty that youth bestows, so even if they have had themselves inked like curtain fabric and pierced like they were dragged by their heels through a hopper filled with used paperclips you can still see that there will guys who shag them. But the ones past that age are monstrosities – corpulent to the point of being oblate, or haggard, or deformed by decades of hate and anger with the more agreeable features that may have existed have been absorbed into the host body and the lineaments of hate have hypertrophied.
Remember years ago when the left was opposed to the war in Iraq (because Bush was in favour of it) there were bands of witches under the campaign banner ‘Boobs. Not bombs.” who would shed their tops and march around shouting and waving placards. They were not the stuff of anyone’s dreams. Some of them had mammaries near down to their knees, swaying like pendula from two grand
fathermother clocks.There would not have been a person who saw them that did not write to their congressmen demanding more spending on bombs in the hope of exorcising these terrible images from their memories.
What the hell were these women thinking?
Excellent discussion today about abortion. It’s particularly heartening to read the bloke’s opinions.
They reinforce my admiration for conservative men who are, generally speaking, thoroughly masculine, yet protective of their families and those in need, even helpless babes in utero.
One question of the Boy Cats: in your experience – or through reading – do men suffer the same shame* when the mother of their child has an abortion? Or dismay? Should men be given some say in the matter, particularly if they want the child?
*Monty says women suffer no shame after an abortion. That might be true of the lefty ‘influencers’ he admires, or the women of his acquaintance. But a decent woman who resorted to abortion – who killed a helpless baby – would be wracked with shame.
And so she should.
He’s also telling the troops they can go to hell.
40,000 National Guard Troops Face Unemployment As Vaccine Deadline Imminent (27 Jun)
The Dems don’t seem to want to have an army ready for when the revolution comes.
Fine by me.
Yea Fester, it’s fine by you because you’re volunteering to be on the front line.
On the Neil Mitchell Twitter site.
https://mobile.twitter.com/3awneilmitchell
Can’t learn and can’t be told. Silly old fool.
Delta, I fully intend to never find out.
I demand the site owner provide all viewers with complimentary eye bleach!
(Mine ran out… 🙁 )
Don’t forget the Wholly Roamin’ Emporer.
Johanna, if the phranger route is impractical, I can think of several contraceptive methods the female partner might use to achieve the same end.
Knuckle Dragger:
Oh, the imagery!
Which would not be good for fighting a fire-breathing dragon.
Doomfarers of Coramonde
What if a M113 was accidentally conjured from Vietnam into a land of magic to fight a dragon?
It’s a fine book. The phos grenades were especially well used. The sequel is excellent too.
Thanks Nelson- re Outlook mail:
Seriously looking at that option. Just got bill for installing upgrade on our IMAC & MacAir when all we wanted was to be able to send emails – which, of course, they must have known they could not accomplish because of the new policy of Optus.
Well Cats, sick of waiting for nuclear submarines, so have an article coming out in The Spectator with a new solution – and am on Bolta tonight on Sky, with Rowan Dean.
Dot – RFS is still requiring vax for volunteers in the field.
However, friend who flew out OS today texted that no masks required in airport or on plane.
TE, Rowan Dean filling in for Blot is the only reason I have to watch Sky after dark (which I’ll be doing tonight). Good luck!
Now, we are getting a new OT for Tuesday, right?
We don’t want to see a repeat of what is already known as ‘The Last Tuesday OT Fiasco’.
Now, we are getting a new OT for Tuesday, right?
No.
This open thread will be with us for 9 months.
Scurries away…
Shameless self-promoter.
Good luck!!
😀
Did you put Peter Dutton up to it, you naughty man? 😉
The paroxysms and head-explosions from Marles-boro Man and the Labor Lights were glorious.
But given they’ve already slashed the order numbers for Army’s new IFVs, I sadly suspect that some sort of pre-planned naval can-kicking exercise to placate the Chunks and free up budget for more Revutionary pursuits, Julia-style, is all but inevitable.
Delta A:
As far back as I can remember, Delta, I’ve always thought of the baby as a potential human. The concept of abortion had never raised its head until I had children. Then it was just a puzzled “Why would you do that?”
A bit like a blind man trying to describe the Mona Lisa – so far out of ones experience as to be unimaginable.
I vote for Top Ender to be the first captain of the Virginia class submarine HMAS Mt Druitt.
From the NSW Law Society President:
Our responsibility as practitioners to help reinforce public confidence in the administration of justice
After the US Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade, striking down the constitutional right to abortion, Michele Obama said;
“I know this is not the future you choose for your generation – but if you give up now, you will inherit a country that does not resemble you or any of the values you believe in”.
The decision comes at a time when US voters’ confidence in their highest court is at an all-time low with President Joe Biden indicating the decision undermines “stability of the rule of law.”
The all time low is amongst demorats; support has increased amongst Republicans.
Winston Smithsays:
June 27, 2022 at 5:58 pm
Typical decent, conservative man response.
You bloody smart arse.
Thanks, Dover. Laughed out loud.
Another quality – generally speaking- of the conservative man: self control.
cohenite
What makes those fools think that any significant group in Australia (other than m0nty-fa, who counts himself as a significant group) cares about the subtleties of US Constitutional law?
Well.
The suggestion that some women rejoice in abortion recidivism certainly got m0nster going.
That is the exact opposite of what I said.
Our responsibility as practitioners to help reinforce public confidence in the administration of justice
Justice and Australia are mutually exclusive terms.
Private property confiscated, coercion to take experimental medication. You name an injustice, the Australian Government has done it.
The suggestion that some women rejoice in abortion recidivism certainly got m0nster going.
You’d think he’d had one except extracting an impacted and partially digested donut doesn’t count.
One question of the Boy Cats: in your experience – or through reading – do men suffer the same shame* when the mother of their child has an abortion? Or dismay? Should men be given some say in the matter, particularly if they want the child?
Re point 1, I don’t know how blokes feel if they participate in the decision. Certainly no direct knowledge, nor indirect knowledge either. Probably it’s very different for different people, just as with women.
It is not unknown for a bloke to find out only long after the event, perhaps when the relationship has ended. Not every bloke to whom that happens just shrugs it off and never gives it another thought.
Re point 2, there was a much-publicised Court case in the UK in the 1980’s, in which the judgment was published anonymously, where a prospective father got an order prohibiting an abortion. A few years after the decision I visited my sister in Oxford, and among the people at her flat was a bloke with the most gorgeous, adorable little daughter imaginable, running around delighting everyone but constantly dashing back to her father whom she clearly idolised. My sister told me later that no-one knew for certain, but they all believed that he’d been the successful plaintiff.
Obviously it’s impossible for two people each to get their own way if they disagree, and so there’s not an easy answer if the mother and father disagree. It does seem to me, though, that if abortion is said just to be normal routine health care and every woman is given an automatic and indefeasible right to it, there’s no real grounds for requiring men to pay child maintenance to a woman who keeps the baby, at least where they weren’t in a serious relationship when the pregnancy occurred. Only if abortion is recognised as being, at the very least, a very serious matter, could it be said that every father who wanted the kid aborted should subsequently be forced to support it.
Laurence Fox is a troll.
Snicker.
Good post, Timothy Neilson. Thanks.
I normally don’t read the Paywallian’s commentary section, but Janet Albrechtsen has nailed it.
No she hasn’t, she’s a dope.
Murphy was as Guilty as Sin, Wran knew his [very helpful] comments would be reported, the Court nailed him.
If Lisa Wilkinson isn’t charged with contempt of court, it will be a green light for every media commentator in Australia to say what they like about criminal trials before they’re heard.
Don’t be an idiot.
The Media had ran dead on this for a year, not one person in 500 in the street had ever heard of Lehmann.
This is a Media beat up, Lisa’s part in it is suspicious, but Contempt Of Court?
Go back to sleep.
Ed Casesays:
June 27, 2022 at 6:26 pm
You’re a tad early, Case. Tom posts his toons around 4.00am.
(Saw the gravatar. Never read the posts.)
I know I’m fairly anonymous on here so I can say…
When my mother was pregnant with her fourth child, my father (“Catholic”) said she needed an abortion because they couldn’t afford another child. She disagreed but he said he’d leave if she didn’t and she’d be left in poverty. So, she had one.
When she got pregnant again, he said the same thing. So she left with the prospect of not eating or even having a home. But she wouldn’t make the same mistake twice.
And as a result of that decision, here I am.
So, to all leftfucks like Fat Boy, piss off.
How will it ‘get him branded as a pervert?’ Is she supposed to go around telling her friends and family about it? Are you kidding? What?
I am surprised to find that even people who have been around the block here suddenly pretend that sexual behaviour is always, or mostly, carefully planned, responsible, and engaged in by ethical and honest participants. And you complain about the Greens. 🙂
I’ll only put it in a little way; I’m sterile; My wife and I never have sex; I’m just waiting for the right moment to tell her …
Apparently (according to experts) girls are pressured for anal sex/ expected to pornify sexual encounters etc.
That can be traced to ‘norms’ being set by internet porn channels and its handmaiden, sex positive feminism.
Far easier for a girl to say no if the bloke is aware that sticking it up her pooper will get him branded as a pervert instead of a stud or asking for certain acts is risky for him…
How about you stay out of other peoples’ sex lives, you pervert.
Apparently having social norms which make it easier for a lady to maintain bodily integrity is being a “pervert”.
While allowing the lowest common denominator on p*rnhub to to act as the norm is “enlightened, pro feminist agency”.. or something.
Monty the p*rnhub feminist.
Only if abortion is recognised as being, at the very least, a very serious matter, could it be said that every father who wanted the kid aborted should subsequently be forced to support it.
What does this gobbledygook mean?
If she has the kid, he’s paying Child Support [if she makes a Claim] until it turns 18, that’s the Law.
Indeed; and anything that comes from an Australian law society needs to be parsed with some help from the social justice lexicon, as words don’t necessarily mean what a layperson may think they mean.
Albanese is gonna commit Troops to Ukraine.
To all the Shills here who campaigned to have the Morrison Government thrown out:
Are you happy yet?
Headline at The Oz: consider adoption over abortion, says Littleproud.
Expect grovelling apology to outraged feminists in 3… 2…
This is a Media beat up, Lisa’s part in it is suspicious, but Contempt Of Court?
Yes, actually. Publication of material which prejudices someone getting a fair trial is punishable as contempt of court. That includes spouting off on a broadcast television show about a soon forthcoming trial, making representations which clearly imply that the defendant is guilty.
And it’s absolutely correct to say that if a journo with decades of experience does such a thing in such a premeditated way and isn’t punished others will be expected to be treated the same way.
Not sure about the icon sorcery here, but please read a well natured smirk here.
How will it ‘get him branded as a pervert?’ Is she supposed to go around telling her friends and family about it? Are you kidding? What?
Its to establish norms johanna.
That by itself wont improve matters, but its an important step towards assisting ladies who wish to say no to acts they are uncomfortable with to do so.
Whats easier
B: “Do this”
G: “No I dont want to thats weird”
B: “Do this”
G: “I dont want to”
B “Its normal you prude”….
Or do you think general sexual mores have been improved by the 24/7 availability of xxx rated material from the age of “?” and the active promotion of raunch culture?
Ed Casesays:
June 27, 2022 at 6:31 pm
What does this gobbledygook mean?
If she has the kid, he’s paying Child Support [if she makes a Claim] until it turns 18, that’s the Law.
I said “should”, not “is” you shiteating fuckheaded halfwit.
FFS learn some primary level comprehension skills, and you mightn’t beclown yourself so spectacularly so often.
I’m waiting for the locals to do the handmaid tale thing in red cloaks as a way of protesting a legal decision on a different continent. We got if for George Floyd so it seems plausible at least.
No, but spending a lot of time thinking about women’s actions in the bedroom makes you a pervert.
It all comes back to the Madonna/whore complex with you lot. Catholicism has propagated a lot of mental problems.
I wasn’t aware that such a thing was enshrined in the American Constitution.
Is it?
Perhaps the Taliban could put the $7 billion worth of American military equipment they are in possession of up on Ebay if they are strapped for cash?
$US 7 Billion? Try a figure of over $80 Billion. The Chinese have most probably bought a lot of that American military equipment by now and re-engineered it for their own military equipment.
The sales proceeds are most probably now in a select number of Taliban bank accounts in the Cayman Islands and other tax haven islands/territories around the planet.
There is no need to give these ‘R Soles’ a penny let alone giving it to the UN for them to handle the money. The UN has it’s own tax haven bank accounts anyway……………………………
Useless idiots.
Not even rising to the level of usefull ones.
Noe also the use of a tight in shot of the “crowd” and the careful avoidance of crowd numbers.
Might their ABCcess be gilding the Lily a little on the “protest’ because it fits their ideological bent?
callisays:
June 27, 2022 at 6:44 pm
striking down the constitutional right to abortion
I wasn’t aware that such a thing was enshrined in the American Constitution.
Is it?
NO !
And we’re glad you are.
The other side to the issue of unwanted children is the ability to give them up for adoption. Single mothers are no longer anathema, so why not give birth and give the child away? How can killing the child be a better option if you don’t actually want to rear it? Someone else will be delighted with the opportunity.
It all comes back to the Madonna/whore complex with you lot. Catholicism has propagated a lot of mental problems.
Monty releases the catholic distraction squirrel.
Well if it isn’t in the Constitution it has the same value as “the right to have a nice hot cup of tea in the morning”.
You might want it, but it isn’t a “right”.
Thanks Delta 🙂
Yeah, I noticed that too.
What kind of a petty midget counts that mean spirited act of spite as a success.
Sad, but all too believable.
m0ntysays:
June 27, 2022 at 6:43 pm
Apparently having social norms which make it easier for a lady to maintain bodily integrity is being a “pervert”.
No, but spending a lot of time thinking about women’s actions in the bedroom makes you a pervert.
Poor old zero comprehension m0nty.
The whole point of mole’s comment was about women NOT engaging in such actions.
Methinks m0nty is projecting again. [Phrasing.]
One question of the Boy Cats: in your experience – or through reading – do men suffer the same shame* when the mother of their child has an abortion? Or dismay? Should men be given some say in the matter, particularly if they want the child?
One of my wonderful kids is alive today because I put my foot down on this murderous practice.
Sadly, some people think that because it’s a “medical procedure” it’s no different to getting a tooth pulled.
The further the language is removed from describing an actual child the better. So we have “procedures”, and “terminations” and “reproductive rights”.
Because we must never, ever allow the imagery to stray into the grim reality.
Oh. Oh, right.
You might have heard the news today how in Sydney a rather large group of hard left, anarchist, eco terrorist scum blocked law abiding citizens from going to work and getting around. The adolescent scum performed stunts such as blocking the entry to the Harbour tunnel and they rampaged through Sydney CBD streets. Some were arrested. It remains to be seen what punishments these eco terrorists will receive however here’s my guess, I predict a small fine and a slap on the wrist because, as we all know, there’s one rule for them and another rule for us, protest a lockdown and you’ll be fined heavily or even gaoled, cause mayhem in Sydney’s CBD and you’ll receive a light slap on the wrist by some lenient progressive judge.
Watching the footage, I laughed out loud because one of the eco terrorists was wearing a keffiyeh which is telling, very telling. It shows quite clearly that they’re hard left anarchist scum and that they support murderers. Here’s my message to this piece of scum, please go and live in Gaza.
Maybe if there were a substantial monetary incentive more women would be open to adoption. For goodness’ sake! The government wastes billions of tax payers’ dollars on all manner of useless frippery. Why not siphon off a tiny bit to support potential mothers and save innocent babies?
Says a lot about some potential mothers, doesn’t it?
Lode, 5.27:
*Puts hand up*
Filthy wildebeest with distended bowels crammed with compacted cheeseburgers, deeply upset not because of abortion ‘rights’ they’ll never avail themselves of because absolutely nobody on this Earth is brave enough to impregnate them on purpose – but because they are manifestly aware they are terrible people to be around, and determined to destroy any hint of happiness in others.
Have you registered handmaids.com.au yet?
Way back when, I was a full time student in Perth. Three of the pretentious wonkers used to wear “Chairman Mao” caps to school, red stars and all. A couple of the “old and the bold” took a certain sadistic delight in explaining what a good “aiming mark” the red stars made…
The adolescent scum performed stunts such as blocking the entry to the Harbour tunnel and they rampaged through Sydney CBD streets.
The problem of blocking streets in a sane world would be a behaviour that self extinguished quite rapidly.
Sadly in Australia, if you run one of these obnoxious wankers over you’ll get to spend time in prison.
Fuckhead protests have been enabled by the elimination of rough and rapid justice at the hands of The People.
Cue the Three Biggest Lies by David Allen Coe.
‘Just the tip’. That old chestnut.
I am glad I read two books that were on to abort or not abort and the consequences of the decision Defiant Birth and Giving Sorrow Words — the first was joyous and affirming, the second was a catalogue of misery and regret – both by Melinda Tankard Reist
Just heard “red underpants on-head” say that he was disappointed in the Roe -v- Wade — this from a supposedly devout Catholic — what a maroooooon – dumb as a bag of hammers
Is that Top Ender on Bolt with Rowan Dean?
Two points about Albanese and his government’s plan to make cuts to crossbencher staffing allocations…
1. The Teal skanks and the other independents who are threatening to oppose the government’s legislation because of the cuts, their hypocrisy is staggering because, as Campbell Newman accurately said last night on Sky, such threats are akin to extortion, unbelievable hypocrisy from the same people who’ve been agitating for a federal ICAC.
2. Albanese hasn’t caved to the threats. I can guarantee you if that had been Scumbag, he would have already caved to the crossbencher threats.
Was watching the news yesterday and some youth in Fawkner, now out on bail, emptied a full magazine from an SKK into a rival gangs house.
Vikpol reckon the gun was worth $20k.
If Mogadishu Man can afford one, you can definitely knock a couple of zeros off Vikpol’s appraisal.
Vikpol were seen stumbling through the pile of empty shell casings shouting “gun control works” m’kay!
BoN, I prefer HMAS Rooty Hill
If Lisa Wilkinson isn’t charged with contempt of court, it will be a green light for every media commentator in Australia to say what they like about criminal trials before they’re heard.
Ed replies
Don’t be an idiot.
The Media had ran dead on this for a year, not one person in 500 in the street had ever heard of Lehmann.
This is a Media beat up, Lisa’s part in it is suspicious, but Contempt Of Court?
Go back to sleep.
That’s just stupid. Contempt of court as it could apply to mrs pirate would be of 2 types, Sub judice or scandalising the court. The former is more likely. Apart from Wran who was nothing if not devious other public figures penalised for contempt include Darren Hinch, Bob Francis and the fucking abc. All involved the guilty undermining the court process and authority.
Based on the previous examples mrs pirate’s efforts are fairly egregious: she had received warnings, she choose a very public event and had read from a prepared and vetted document. The fact she did not name the accused’s name is irrelevant. Higgins is well known thanks to the previous contemptible efforts of scomo and rub and tug and the media coverage these 2 idiots received.
By any standard mrs pirate should be charged.
Tom Lewis — legend — We should have you as Minister for Defence in escrow
Yep.
I also keep asking the same question and the only answer I can come up with is that it’s too messy. The adopted child will come looking for the birth mother at some stage and cause turmoil. It’s so much neater to flush it away, no later reminders of mistakes and misjudgements.
Maybe if there were a substantial monetary incentive more women would be open to adoption
Australia leads the World in Uteruses-for-Hire?
No Australian child will be unadopted by 2030?
You’ve got a high opinion of Australian women, eh?
Albanese hasn’t caved to the threats. I can guarantee you if that had been Scumbag, he would have already caved to the crossbencher threats.
Albo might be a snaggle toothed Mong, but at least he isn’t Scumo.
He would win points if he told his pr team to base their Ukranus trip up their arse. “I’m not taking one for, or from, zelensky”.
You can’t make this shit up.
As should Goose Morristeen.
Go TopEnder on Sky with Rowan!
How long for Aus to build stables for these submarines however?
Cool. Something tells me that it’s Rowan Dean’s doing and that if Bolt was not on holidays Top Ender would not be invited on the show. I would be happy to be proved wrong.
Does anyone seriously think that the performing teals won’t end up with four taxpayer funded staff?
Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
I can see it.
“Free *Our Lisa* Campaign”
No I don’t want that level of hysterics. Just make her promise never to lecture people in that whiny tone.
She’d suffer deeply if she could no longer do that.
Well done, Top Ender!
If I could ask a favor, could someone provide a link?
Ed:
SUBMARINES.
There. That should set him off to the races for the next few days.
Isn’t that like Joe Biden, such a devout Catholic that he demands free abortions throughout all 57 states?
Sure, Higgins is fairly well known by oldies who still read newspapers and watch TV.
Lehmann isn’t [I had to go to Kangaroo Court of Australia to find out his name], so it’s the exact opposite of the Wran situation, where Wran and Murphy had been well known to the public of the day for a generation, the story had been all over the Media for years, and Murphy was guilty anyway.
Perhaps the Taliban could put the $7 billion worth of American military equipment they are in possession of up on Ebay if they are strapped for cash?
They have been! I’ve triple mortgage the house. The shed is now the ultimate man-cave. The decorating is going well but I need some goats and carpet to finish off the Afghan Warlord look.
The Taliban are objectively a non interventionist great power.
Best I can do is some goat’s milk hand cream – very helpful after all that hard yakka
cohenitesays:
June 27, 2022 at 7:28 pm
If Lisa Wilkinson isn’t charged with contempt of court, it will be a green light for every media commentator in Australia to say what they like about criminal trials before they’re heard.
Ed replies
Don’t be an idiot.
The Media had ran dead on this for a year, not one person in 500 in the street had ever heard of Lehmann.
This is a Media beat up, Lisa’s part in it is suspicious, but Contempt Of Court?
Go back to sleep.
Cohenite then says –
That’s just stupid. Contempt of court as it could apply to mrs pirate would be of 2 types, Sub judice or scandalising the court. The former is more likely. Apart from Wran who was nothing if not devious other public figures penalised for contempt include Darren Hinch, Bob Francis and the fucking abc. All involved the guilty undermining the court process and authority.
You are a right Head Case, Nut Case, Worst Case, Suitable Case for Treatment, Pencil Dick Case and many other ‘cases’ with minimal/SFA knowledge of the law. Leave this to the legal experts and the ACT Judiciary as all that you are showing the world is that you are only an ‘egg spurt’. Back in that Packing Case you go Head Case…….And stay there.
How good is Candice Owen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5oohuE7qBM
John
Pretty sure Ed knows he is wrong.
He has spent the better part of 10 years trolling this site as a fake conservative in name only.
Dickless
What does this gobbledygook mean?
If she has the kid, he’s paying Child Support [if she makes a Claim] until it turns 18, that’s the Law.
Still having difficulties with reading comprehension?
PS, there really are times when the Law is an ass.
Damn! Missed Top Ender on Bolt! Just turned on & he’s gone!
Ed Casesays:
June 27, 2022 at 6:33 pm
Albanese is gonna commit Troops to Ukraine.
To all the Shills here who campaigned to have the Morrison Government thrown out:
Are you happy yet?
Your (former) maaaaate “Scotty” signed us up fopr nett zero after a threat to stop investment here. What makes you think he would have resisted the Call to Arms in Ukraine, if a similar threat were to be made?
The GayBC celebrating Victoria’s first openly gay minister
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-27/victoria-new-ministers-frontbench-sworn-in/101183472
And of course the Socialist Left ascendancy and decline of the Right faction.
And don’t even start me on their uber-super-hyper-biased coverage of Roe v Wade.
Sure, Higgins is fairly well known by oldies who still read newspapers and watch TV.
Lehmann isn’t [I had to go to Kangaroo Court of Australia to find out his name], so it’s the exact opposite of the Wran situation, where Wran and Murphy had been well known to the public of the day for a generation, the story had been all over the Media for years, and Murphy was guilty anyway.
The case is known by Higgins, not the accused who becomes readily known through Higgin’s extensive notoriety. It is not the exact opposite of the Wran case because both are within the definitions of contempt. As I said mrs pirate’s effort are particularly egregious because in addition to what I already listed she was warned not to do so by the court in a pre-trial conference on 15 June 2022, as she is a potential prosecution witness in the trial.
Your defence of her is getting really stupid.
Vicki at 7:54 pm, wait until the show is finished and it might be available to watch again on the Sky website.
m0nty-fa
It all comes back to the Madonna/whore complex with you lot. Catholicism has propagated a lot of mental problems.
Lay off the “you lot” stereotyping, and also the religious bigotry. Also, are you really a Catholic, or do you just pretend?
The Kangaroo Court guy also reckons Lisa should be charged.
But here’s the thing:
Everyone wants to see Justice done, riiiiiiight???
Which means a Trial is held.
So, why not shut the fuck up about Lisa until after the Trial?
And on Lisa Wilkinson, one of the grounds for contempt of court is interference with the administration of justice. Well, she certainly has done that, hasn’t she, by forcing the postponement of a trial? So why isn’t she in the dock for it?
As soon as Paul Murray comes on I will watch Alan Jones on his app instead.
It wasn’t all that long ago when Monty was advocating the denial of healthcare services to “anti-vaxxers” because they were “being deliberately stupid about it”.
His message being; those who chose not to take appropriate precautions should suffer the full consequences.
Consistency is not his strong suit.
callisays:
June 27, 2022 at 6:51 pm
The other side to the issue of unwanted children is the ability to give them up for adoption. Single mothers are no longer anathema, so why not give birth and give the child away? How can killing the child be a better option if you don’t actually want to rear it? Someone else will be delighted with the opportunity.
Ad mothers who seek abortion of a healthy baby in the last weeks of pregnancy should be charged with manslaughter at the very least. As should the practicioner who performs the procedure.
The case is known by Higgins, not the accused who becomes readily known through Higgin’s extensive notoriety.
What does this gobbledygook mean?
Is English your first language?
His message being; those who chose not to take appropriate precautions should suffer the full consequences.
Pregnancy isn’t a contagious disease, so your analogy falls over.
m0ntysays:
June 27, 2022 at 7:19 pm
Maybe if there were a substantial monetary incentive more women would be open to adoption. For goodness’ sake! The government wastes billions of tax payers’ dollars on all manner of useless frippery. Why not siphon off a tiny bit to support potential mothers and save innocent babies?
Have you registered handmaids.com.au yet?
m0nty-fa
Have you registered babyparts.com.au yet?
Though you’ve gotta appreciate the humor in a situation where 2 people are practicing making a baby, then a few weeks later one of them finds out she’s having a baby.
It’s like:
What did you think was going to happen, nitwits?
I haven’t had a chance to catch up with the thread so don’t know if this has already been posted.
Covid Vaccines and Fertility
and this
Jikkyleaks
@Jikkyleaks
This is a massive safety signal for infertility. Germany’s FIRST report of birth rates since the rollout.
The Daily Mail
Anthony Albanese unleashes at US judges’ controversial decision to scrap the right to get an abortion as the PM explains why he is so against the move: ‘It is a setback for women’
Ed Casesays:
June 27, 2022 at 7:38 pm
…
Sure, Higgins is fairly well known by oldies who still read newspapers and watch TV.
Lehmann isn’t
Well, that’s all right then. Let’s allow it to be broadcast all over the media that Brittany Higgins, aged mid-late 20’s of the A.C.T, is telling the truth about being raped.
Then when the case goes to trial a couple of weeks later, and a jury is asked to decide whether Lehmann raped Brittany Higgins, aged mid-late 20’s of the A.C.T, there’s no way that the media coverage will enter their minds.
You KNOW it makes sense!!!
After SCOTUS Abortion Decision, CNN’s Ana Navarro Pushes Eugenics
Roe Down Poso
@JackPosobiec
MAP BREAK
Area of Russian control in Ukraine mapped on US East Coast
Oz media writer Sophie Ellsworth was on Chris Kenny tonight. She said she’d heard that Ms Cane Toad Wilkinson isn’t doing very well with all this negative media over her prejudicial comments at the Logies. Well, all I can say is, if this news is true then good, fabulous, marvellous, fantastic. I try not to relish other people’s suffering, misfortune or misery but if true, then that’s just lovely, really lovely. This is same piece of excrement who, along with her husband and other scum that infest our MSM, have made a living piling on others such as Cardinal Pell, Christian Porter, Andrew Laming and Alan Tudge…to name just a few. Oh Lisa, the schadenfreude is sweet, very sweet.
I want the Ms Cane Toad charged…and she can then feel a smidgen of what Cardinal Pell went through.
Given you clearly didn’t understand it, I’m sure it does, in your eyes.
To add to Lsyander above: