No fault divorce was instituted by men for men, it allowed men to trade in their wives for a newer models.

Not many blokes are well off enough to afford that, then or now.

What it did was allow women who had been slutting for their boss for years to get unmarried without their neighbours reading all about it in the newspapers.

Dr Faustussays:
June 28, 2022 at 5:37 pm
Family formation is not an institution, db. It is a policy preference favoured by white supremacists and religious extremists who want to propagate their followers.

Good Lord.
The amazing power of white supremacists and religious extremists – influencing the policy preferences of the entire human race, reaching back across aeons and continents.

I wonder how many African, Asian and other groups with strong family formation preferences would be surprised to learn they are white supremacists.

@ Rockdoctor-

Thanks for the update.

I’m personally disgusted that otherwise potentially useful and capable female soldiers in any other Corps and role are being wasted by first trying to make them Riflemen for the edification of people who hate the Army (and wider ADF), and who would never be caught dead on a gunline, in a CP or a fighting vehicle hide, platoon harbour or even the plushest accommodations available in Russell Offices in the first place…

In reality family formation is more important than the rights of women and men.

Good job, rickw. At least you’re man enough to admit that you’re a fascist.

m0ntysays:
June 28, 2022 at 6:16 pm
In reality family formation is more important than the rights of women and men.

Good job, rickw. At least you’re man enough to admit that you’re a fascist.

Does your wife have the right to root another man?

If she doesnt then why?

m0nty-fa

No-fault divorce was caused by a massive society-wide failure of men to live up to their side of the bargain. It was men who attacked the institution of marriage by abusing their wives and straitjacketing them into loveless jails.

Is there something you want to share with us?

Obliging a parent/s to at least care for their child until it can be entrusted to the care and custody of another is not fascism.

There you go again with the creepy reference to using women as livestock to produce goods for the adoption market.

Even by your standards, that sentence about livestock is off the planet.

You need help.

Rex doesn’t understand how easy he has it

Relative to what, Fat Man?

Or are you having another go at pretending at being a Fren to All Wahmens because you’ve run out of semantic tricks again?

(Hint for readers: Most Male Feminists tend to be the most appallingly misogynistic folks out there, able to hide and excuse their awful attitudes and actions under a thin and gauzy veil of Ideology…)

straitjacketing them into loveless jails.
Is Mrs M0nty unavailable for comment?

There’s plenty of love! But you need a paper bag and a strong stomach!

m0nty-fa

In purple states, there are still majorities supporting Roe. Yes, even Iowa. Yet there are many purple states where Republicans have big majorities in state legislatures, which the current SCOTUS has locked in for the foreseeable future with massively politicised gerrymanders. So you’ll get many states where the population will have Dobbs imposed on them when what they really want is Roe.

Will future elections be held in the “purple” states? If so, the electorate will have its opportunity to change the government.

Unless the DemonRats are running the elections.

So crappy fire services but the diversity goals are met.

At least people burned to a crisp with lots of fit women looking busy out front!

rosiesays:
June 28, 2022 at 6:00 pm
No fault divorce was instituted by men for men, it allowed men to trade in their wives for a newer models.

Brought in by Lionel Murphy as AG. He then traded in his old wife for a new model as soon as he could.

Whether they ‘graduated’ or not, plenty of females have been posted as riflemen and platoon commanders to infantry battalions. I believe there has already been at least one company commander as well.

Blimey. I am behind.

Reality itself must bow to The Agenda, it seems…

Delta A says:
June 28, 2022 at 6:32 pm

With time on my hands, I actually read monty’s posts today.

Wish I hadn’t, because now I regret any mean remarks I made to him, something I will never do again. Neither should other benevolent Cats.

Do you like and agree with him now?
Not clear, but I’m slow I admit.

You’re an idiot.
Murphy was married to one wife until the day he died.

Oh Grigory…

From the Wikipedia entry on the man:

Spouse(s):

Ingrid Gee (née Grzonkowski)

And not a whiff of bigamy during his life, nor necromancy so he could have a second bite at the cherry, so to speak.

Stick to gypsum, Grigs. You’re less likely to commit such easily researchable howlers…

The message I get from such anecdotes – which are legion in wider society – are that often breaking up a marriage adds to the happiness of the kids, as they don’t have to watch their parents fighting all the time.

And what did or does this have to do with the overturning of an an imagined Constitutional right to infanticide in America, Fat Man?

Stay on target. We’re not easily distractible like you or your inner-urban lefty circles…

I was replying directly to you. Further, women are not being directed either to engage in the generation of children in order to supply an ‘adoption market’ nor are they required to give them up, which the ‘fascist’ claim requires. This entire line of argument is simply a means by which liberals, such as you, avoid addressing the claim that, having generated a human being, the parents are at minimum obliged to care for it until another can do so in their stead.

I am glad orphanages are not really a thing in Western countries these days. Particularly not ones run by the Catholic Church. *shudder*

The fact that you and the rest of those pushing for these laws keep bringing up the subject of other people caring for these kids is what they call a “tell”. The objective here is to create a steady supply for adoptive parents… a supply of white kids.

You may protest about this, but that Illinois Republican gave the game away the other day at a Trump rally when she said Dobbs was a victory for “white life”, to the cheers of the crowd.

Thanks for the well-wishes, m0nts. Now, back to business.

No-fault divorce was caused by a massive society-wide failure of men to live up to their side of the bargain. It was men who attacked the institution of marriage by abusing their wives and straitjacketing them into loveless jails.

Do you have any evidence to back up your claim of a “massive society-wide failure of men” etc causing the introduction of no-fault divorce? Sounds like you had a bit of a rush of blood to the head there.

I doubt the rationale for the introduction of no-fault divorce was anywhere near that dramatic. It was ushered in with a presumption that it was an unalloyed step in the right direction, with little-to-no consideration of unintended consequences. After all, what could possibly go wrong?

In other words, it was a typical progressive disaster.

SCOTUS may say that they’re sending the issue back to the states in the name of democracy, but their own actions have ensured that they’re just replacing one unhappy set of voters with another.

You have identified the problem at the core of Roe (as well as the problem of legislating from the bench more broadly) – the original decision made one set of voters happy, and one set of voters unhappy. This is not the court’s job. It is not accountable to voters. Its job – in this instance, anyway – is to determine the constitutionality of a law or of a decision made by a lower court. Using the court’s authority to conjure a ‘right’ from the constitution that clearly does not exist in order to override a matter that was rightly the domain of the legislature, was an improper use of the court’s power. Overruling Roe remedied an improper decision that SCOTUS should never have made in the first instance.

You reckon people (not just women) who are being abused should suck it up and stay in the marriage for the good of the kids. That’s just not how society works these days, db. Those days are long gone, and good riddance to them.

Divorce is only done in cases of domestic violence now, apparently.

Because Benito M0ntylini can’t have a rhetorical win, no matter how many times he changes the goalposts.

Stick to your original ambit, Fat Man. To wit, SCOTUS deciding:

1) To overturn an invented federal Constitutional right to infanticide in America, based on a 50-year old legal decision that had no basis in the law or Constitution,

2) That a law-abiding individual with no record of felony has a Constitutional right, under the Second Amendment to legally carry a concealed firearm in any US State or Territory without having to make any further justification just because leftwits demanded it,

3) The federal EPA cannot just regulate entire industries to death at will in order to combat Climate Change without any further involvement, due process or agreement from all stakeholders involved,

Somehow constitutes The End of All Life As We Know It.

No-fault divorce was caused by a massive society-wide failure of men to live up to their side of the bargain. It was men who attacked the institution of marriage by abusing their wives and straitjacketing them into loveless jails.

Actually, this was a better troll, and I took the bait. Bar the nuttier feminists, no one could be dumb enough to genuinely believe this.

The fat creep is getting a bit tetchy

I am glad orphanages are not really a thing in Western countries these days. Particularly not ones run by the Catholic Church. *shudder*

Catholic-baiting now.

Go to bed, Fat Man.

Your blood pressure must be awful.

The fat creep is getting a bit tetchy

And so is Grigory.

Relevance Deprivation is a terrible thing.

Do more of it… 🙂

There are some people who would give their eye teeth to be a parent for one of these little ones.

That’s just sick.
How can someone be a parent to a strangers kids?

I know for a fact that loads of people get divorced for relatively frivolous, ultimately self-centred reasons (I’m not blissfully happy! This isn’t what I was expecting! He’s (usually it’s a he) not my soul mate!) when they actually could stick it out and make it work for the sake of the kids. Kids want their parents to be together. Desperately. Even when their parents really ought not be together, the child still longs for them to be. As a child of a broken home whose parents were in a very ugly relationship that they were much better out of (as was I), I know this.

For every divorce that occurs due to an unforgivable breach of trust or a irreparably toxic relationship in which the kids genuinely would be better off if their parents are apart, how many divorces occur because one spouse has decided the other doesn’t measure up in some relatively trivial way? 10? Probably more. The damage this does to children is incalculable.

The fault of the no-fault divorce.

They were all over for fish and chips last Friday and they were just their normal selves, happy and playful.

The message I get from such anecdotes – which are legion in wider society – are that often breaking up a marriage adds to the happiness of the kids, as they don’t have to watch their parents fighting all the time.

Parents fighting in front of children is very bad for children. Who could doubt that? Or that there is relief when peace can finally descend for a while? But this is to only view the short term of it. As time goes on, the children of single parents miss out on much that is developmentally good for them simply by having a male and female, poor role model or not, to be part of their lives – to say nothing of the economic losses children suffer on divorce. Some marriages will and must fail, but to make this a general condition of life, to blindly accept divorce as ‘normal’, is to deny how important an intact family can be to a child. Breaking a marriage for trivial reasons, or for ‘self-development’ of a dissatisfied partner, is plainly wrong. Children deserve better than this.

Marriage is always hard work and involves self-denial of various sorts. Genuinely adult people recognise this, and work at it, for on every indice that competent sociologists study, in large-scale population based research studies, children do better if they emerge as adults from intact families.
Hearsay and ‘people I know’ convenience-based studies are often biased and hardly the whole story.

Rex Anger:

I know the ARes Armour units have a lot of female crewmen popping up and getting through the Employment Training, but I am not sure how many of them are practically employed as Cavalry Scouts…

I’d like to see an all girl crew change the tracks on an Abrams.

Ed Casesays:
June 28, 2022 at 7:07 pm
Brought in by Lionel Murphy as AG. He then traded in his old wife for a new model as soon as he could.

Bullshit.
You’re [still] an idiot.

Stop mixing LSD with the gypsum, Dickless, you are mixing me up with another commenter (with whom I agree).

I’d like to see an all girl crew change the tracks on an Abrams.

I’ sire it’s coming.

I do seem to recall reading up on at least 1 female Troop Commander in one of the Armoured Cavalry Regiments’ APC Squadrons (when they still had those) circa 2015-16. And the M113AS4 has a crew of 2.

And track-bashing on even the legacy M113AS1s in a mere barracks environment was an affair best carried with 4 or 5 largeish blokes…

I grew up in the 50’s,
Liz, that was a remarkable time , at least in Australia as the 1850’s was the beginning of the Gold Rush, and really the beginning of the nation.

JC wins the internet today
And yes I am sick of him winning ?

My post at 6.32 pm might have been hastened and jumbled due to my inability to ignore the glorious aromas of Best Man’s weber roasted leg of lamb. One more reason to laud the joys of marriage.

“The meat smells made me do it!”

Delta, I’m stealing that one.

I’m sure that it’s the sort of excuse that will make me look a right proper tit if I ever use it.

But I’m stealing it anyway. 🙂

rosie

Monty is trapped in a copy of The Handmaids Tale.

It’s his favourite TV documentary, he has watched it dozens of times.

Rex, you are McClown’s little bitch.
Do whatever he says….
What do you know about the differences between the sexes?
Sweet Fuck all.
Thousands of women are more man than you’ll ever be.

m0nty-fa

Implied rights in and of themselves are not illegitimate.

But they need careful definition. Who in 1973 thought that Roe would lead to abortion at the time of birth? Or might, if maniacs like Singer have their way, to “post-birth abortion” up to four weeks later? Do you agree with those later developments?

There was a legitimate legal criticism to be made of Roe – one that RBG made, which you lot keep repeating

There were many legitimate legal criticisms made of Roe and RGB was one of many, many people making them. It’s not as though everyone here decided to channel RGB in criticising Roe.

Implied rights in and of themselves are not illegitimate.

No one is saying they are, if they are well-founded.

The SCOTUS majority seems to disagree in the case of privacy, and they seem determined to repeal as many privacy-based rights as they can.

Really? Why are you yammering on about privacy rights and how these are under attack? Which privacy-based rights are under attack?

If you actually read the Dobbs judgment, you probably wouldn’t be as confused as you appear to be. For instance, it literally says the following:

The Court emphasizes that this decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right. Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.

Here’s a good money quote from the majority decision for you to chew on, m0nts:

The weaknesses in Roe’s reasoning are well-known. Without any grounding in the constitutional text, history, or precedent, it imposed on the entire country a detailed set of rules much like those that one might expect to find in a statute or regulation.

Dividing pregnancy into three trimesters, the Court imposed special rules for each. During the first trimester, the Court announced, “the abortion decision and its effectuation must be
left to the medical judgment of the pregnant woman’s attending physician.”

After that point, a State’s interest in regulating abortion for the sake of a woman’s health became compelling, and accordingly, a State could “regulate the abortion procedure in ways that are reasonably related to maternal health.”

Finally, in “the stage subsequent to viability,” which in 1973 roughly coincided with the beginning of the third trimester, the State’s interest in “the potentiality of human life” became compelling, and therefore a State could “regulate, and even proscribe, abortion except where it is necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother.”

This elaborate scheme was the Court’s own brainchild. Neither party advocated the trimester framework; nor did either party or any amicus argue that “viability” should mark the point at which the scope of the abortion right and a State’s regulatory authority should be substantially transformed.

Not only did this scheme resemble the work of a legislature, but the Court made little effort to explain how these rules could be deduced from any of the sources on which constitutional decisions are usually based.

Ouch.

(My post at 6.32 pm might have been hastened and jumbled due to my inability to ignore the glorious aromas of Best Man’s weber roasted leg of lamb. One more reason to laud the joys of marriage.)

Yep. Similarly, Hairy calling me to get off da blog and admire his culinary efforts with the meat while I make a salad is the cause of many of my hurried pieces here.

Rex… Sancho of the slup lane….for our Kiwi friends. …thinks you’re transgender…..it makes sense, yet as a self confessed liar you can’t believe a word he says…….so set the record straight. ..so to speak. ..is it choo choo, poo choo or chew chew?
And how many government pricks are you going to bend over for?
All your toy soldier talk isn’t fooling anybody, love.

Just wanted to encourage you all in the discussing of Roe vs Wade with Australians.

Today, I had the opportunity to speak with an naturalised Australian of Dutch ethnicity with whom I work and in the space of five minutes, I took him from decrying how archaic the decision was to agreeing with me that it was right and fitting that each state should decide and that it gave the people (via their elected representatives) their voice on what is a profound moral question.

Another was the beautiful man (we are still in contact) who could not believe that Victorian abortion law enables termination until 38 weeks. He felt that anything beyond 12 weeks was murder. This a man who had seen 6 of his children aborted by various partners, including one in which he agreed to the abortion, something that hurts him to this day.

Sometimes, we just need to engage. I am pro-life and don’t apologise for being so. My mother was encouraged to abort me in NZ in 1973 as she had conceived me four months after a full-term stillbirth. Abortion for medical reasons had just been made legal. She refused.

Let us proclaim that life – with all its hardships, pain and hurdles – is still better than never having been born, felt the sunshine, the touch of another human and, hopefully, to have known love in all or any of its forms.

Bons:

WTF did you mob do to the place while I was away.

Yeah.
It’s sort of gone to shit, hasn’t it?
Duzzenmatter – they’ll just knock it all down and we’ll rebuild.

H B Bearsays:
June 28, 2022 at 8:02 pm
Groogs finding that run of the mill idiocy just not cutting it today for some reason.

Competing with m0nty-fa for the title of Daily Idiot is extremely difficult today.

Nobody has time to drink as we keep working to compensate for fucking useless rail

But you don’t work, Struth…

OCO

If you actually read the Dobbs judgment, you probably wouldn’t be as confused as you appear to be.

m0nty-fa doesn’t have time to read the judgement, he is far too busy scouring lefty blogs and DNC media talking points to have time to research the actual facts.

Has anyone else noticed that many of m0nty-fa’s comments today receive a single dickless uptick?

Either there is someone here, commenter or lurker, who agrees with m0nty-fa, or someone is teasing him (noting that he claimed recently that he never gives himself dickless upticks).

Mr wong … 100,000 years.

You know they are going to find a way to sell out to the Chinese, they are bought and paid for after all. Just a matter of finding the right pretext to legitimise it, flimsiness not withstanding.

/tinfoil off

Peaky Blinders is brilliant TV

Series one & two awesome.
After that, stylised mediocre drama with snippets of Tom Hardy stealing the show.

Amanda Herring, who is 32 and nine months pregnant, showed up with her 1-year-old son Abraham and the words “Not Yet a Human” written in ink across her swollen belly.

This is a bigger story than meets the eye. Did she copulate with a non-human life form and thus she’s not sure whether she’s having a human baby? As far as I’m aware, it is impossible for a human female and a male non-human animal to procreate. Therefore, the only explanation is…aliens. Did an alien impregnate this woman? We will find out when she gives birth!

I’ve started watching a show called Lexx on Prime.
It’s some out there, bizarre crazy shit.

But jeebers I find Shapiro an annoying little shit.

Yes, the voice is the icing on the cake.

There may be an option to obtain the stuff you need by using an European address which automatically forwards the goods on.

Thanks for that, Harlequin.

I solved the problem by ordering delivery to my sister in France, who then forwarded to parcel to me. Very similar to the service you linked to – but probably slightly cheaper (except for the endless, sisterly skiting and nonsense).

Moral of the story: there are alternatives to shite service from lazy Australian agencies.

I love Lex Fridman.
His Zuck interview was the best.
It will be used at Zuck’s trial once the revolution comes.

All your toy soldier talk

‘Stand, fight and if necessary fall! ANZACs! Gallipoli!’

No news so far this week on the ‘energy crisis’. Is it over?

Paying incentives to gas & coal fired generators is working a treat.
The renewables guys are still pissed about next to no price spikes.

No-fault divorce:

There is no greater example of the giggly, flighty hot mess this was designed for than the tart spoken of here a couple of weeks ago, who met her ‘soulmate’ at a function or something, and promptly ditched the beige hubby.

I particularly liked the happy ending where the ‘soulmate’ told the newly single desperado to fuck off.

Now I find this a bit strange , tho being a west. aussie people may think thats a normal state on mind. Our new , lunatics in charge want to phase out live sheep export and are offering any new players part of a chunk of $15 bill. to build a new abbs here in WA. Now I’m not very bright , but I do see a problem here…1, lack of workers.., 2,high costs of staff…3 and dont get me started on the high costs of running a abbs. in aust. compared with overseas.

$15 billion?
Holy snappin’ ducks’ feet.
Every last red cent will go to the “right” businesses though, ie Twiggyesque organic rangeland boeof with dole bludger employment programs and carbon zero pledges and songlines reservations and booog farms.