Open Thread – Weekend 2 July 2022


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JC
JC
July 3, 2022 8:49 am

Liz

What suburb is that. I forget.

Cassie of Sydney
July 3, 2022 8:50 am

From The Oz….

At least 4,000 people in low-lying areas of southwest Sydney have this morning been told to evacuate before they are cut off by rising floodwaters.

Residents of Camden, Woronora, Chipping Norton, Lansdale, Moorebank, Warwick Farm and Georges Hill have been told to leave.

One hundred troops and 2 ADF helicopters are on standby with the weather bureau warning there is worse to come. Overnight, the SES responded to 500 calls for help and carried out 16 flood rescues.

The Bureau of Meteorology’s Jane Golding said the agency was expecting conditions to worsen.

“What we’re expecting to see over the next 24-48 hours is the trough continue to deepen and a potential east coast low to develop within that by tomorrow night or early Monday morning,” said the Bureau of Meteorology’s Jane Golding.

“The rainfall rates will increase, we’ll start to see the wind increase as well. We’ll start to see the seas whipped up, and we’ll see rivers respond to the rain that’s falling.”

Ms Cooke warned of riverine flooding, especially for areas around the Hawkesbury-Nepean river.

“Our dams and river channels are also full,” she said. “In addition to flash flooding, there is a very real risk of riverine flooding occurring over the days ahead.”

“The river system of most concern at this point is the Hawkesbury-Nepean which may reach major flood levels overnight.””

Where’s Albo? Has he returned from hobnobbing with Macron in Europe? Is the MSM and are social media sewers awash with screams, cries and shouts of “where’s Albo”? Or is he still too busy prostrating himself before Macron?

Where’s Princess Allegra and why isn’t she spruiking hysteria about “da cliiiimaaaate”, just like she did earlier this year, during the floods? Oh that’s right, Princess Allegra is simply remaining true to her shallow campaign slogan “A better climate for Wentworth”. She’s only concerned about the climate in Wentworth, in Sydney’s leafy eastern suburbs. In fact, I doubt she’s ever heard of suburbs called Camden, Woronora, Chipping Norton and Lansdale.

Here’s my take, Albanese and Spender are hypocrites but we all knew that. But you know who’s worse? Our media, who’ll never hold them to account for their lies and spin and the stupid fucking Liberals, for doing nothing to fight this “cliiiimaaaate” hysteria, despite being in power for nearly ten years.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 3, 2022 8:51 am

The next case to go to the US Supreme Court should be a challenge to those multi-thousand page Bills that are debated for a derisory time. There is a clear argument that they do not in any realistic way reflect the intentions of Congress, and that therefore the administrative state cannot use them as the basis of regulatory action.

The same applies here, where long Bills are passed without any realistic time for consideration.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 3, 2022 8:54 am

the Bureau of Meteorology’s Jane Golding.

“The rainfall rates will increase, we’ll start to see the wind increase as well. We’ll start to see the seas whipped up, and we’ll see rivers respond to the rain that’s falling.”

Perfesser Tim Flummery was not available for comment about river levels (or dam levels).

calli
calli
July 3, 2022 8:56 am

Residents of Camden, Woronora, Chipping Norton, Lansdale, Moorebank, Warwick Farm and Georges Hill have been told to leave.

All sitting on saturated, heavy clay soil. There is absolutely nowhere for all that water to go, much like areas in Sydney’s northwest that should never have been developed.

Along with a full-throated cry, “Where’s Albo?” should be, “Where’s Flannery?”.

Liars and charlatans, the lot of them.

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2022 8:56 am

“Our dams and river channels are also full,” she said.

This just can’t be.

bespoke
bespoke
July 3, 2022 8:57 am

83% chance of 5 o’clock Charlie buzzing around today.

Cassie of Sydney
July 3, 2022 8:57 am

“Liars and charlatans, the lot of them.”

Yep…but you know who’s worse? The scum in electorates like Wentworth who vote for charlatans like Spender.

132andBush
132andBush
July 3, 2022 8:57 am

Do we need to recall the recent slap in the face suffered by France in the brutal and unilateral breach of the contract for the purchase of Australian submarines by Australia, a member of the Commonwealth, which was orchestrated by the British and the Americans?

Who gives a flying ?

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 8:58 am

Residents of Camden, Woronora, Chipping Norton, Lansdale, Moorebank, Warwick Farm and Georges Hill have been told to leave.

IT WILL NEVER FLOOD AGAIN!

John Sheldrick
July 3, 2022 9:01 am

It’s his hatred of the middle classes that I also find repugnant iirc he called for their ‘elimination’. Stalin and Mao tried to oblige.

Both Stalin and Mao were very good at starting major Famines. Stalin’s 5 Year Plans were useless and he stole grain from the Ukrainians. Hmmmmmmm. A bit of a ‘todo’ in the Ukraine right now. History repeats and all that. The Gulags and Purges didn’t help either. Many, many people died.

Mao tried to kill all the Chinese sparrows and that backfired as then the insects got out of hand and destroyed more crops than the sparrows ate (especially the plagues of locusts). The sparrows were useful for keeping the insects under control. They were/are useful in pollination as well as are bees.
His 5 Year Plans didn’t help either as they were useless.

There’s a lot, lot more but these two men were evil. Communism only works in theory and it has a very bad track record in practice.

Now it’s the West (including Australia and NZ) wrecking their Economies (Climate Change BS, expensive food and energy, etc.)

JC
JC
July 3, 2022 9:02 am

Gavin Newsom signed two gun control laws yesterday prohibiting the marketing of firearms to minors and bolstering restrictions on ghost guns.

The bill, AB 2571 , bars gun manufacturers from marketing guns in a way that “reasonably appears to be attractive to minors.” The ghost gun bill tightens requirements for the microstamping of unserialized firearms.

Oh, the gun makers have ads selling say handguns using baby talk? How that hell would you be able to describe in law an ad that is attractive to minors?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 9:03 am

Whoa. Sudden blast of wind and rain has just detached the large skylight from next door.

I’d better go check our new conservatory/terrace room for any damage. That part of our buiding has always been in the line of fire for these sorts of sudden blasts we occasionally get and I did warn the builders to make it all extra strong against winds. Before we had that area glassed in we had external blinds which broke loose from the pergola and the heavy end bar thrashed a small fridge to bits. Before we had a fixed pergola we had a Bunnings pergola there, which survived most weather but in cyclonic conditions like today it became twisted into a modern art sculpture.

*returns*

Hmm. Water all over the floor on that side, looks like the roofer didn’t quite get the gutter leak fixed.
Or the gutter’s come loose again and is tipping once again into the ceiling now dripping. Buggeure.

Have laid some old towels around to soak it up.

The perils of living on the ocean one side and the Sydney heads on the other. Line of fire.

JC
JC
July 3, 2022 9:05 am

Roger says:
July 3, 2022 at 8:56 am
“Our dams and river channels are also full,” she said.
This just can’t be.

It would be hilarious if Flannery’s house got flooded out.

John Sheldrick
July 3, 2022 9:06 am

Residents of Camden, Woronora, Chipping Norton, Lansdale, Moorebank, Warwick Farm and Georges Hill have been told to leave.

IT WILL NEVER FLOOD AGAIN!

Flannery, Oh Flannery, ‘Wherefore art thou’?

Yes, lots of ‘flannery’ in the Sydney basin this weekend and for early next week. Last Friday was a nice day too. Not!

132andBush
132andBush
July 3, 2022 9:06 am

“Our dams and river channels are also full,” she said.
This just can’t be.

Lol

Not only that but the dry land cropping areas west of the divide are all at or very close to “field capacity” and have been for months.

And because this was to become “a thing of the past” poor old Lofty feels it necessary to turn off his power every day, basically so he can afford to eat.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 3, 2022 9:08 am

Mum said bucketing down at Lake Mac. Looks like a stereotypical ECE which wouldn’t be so bad but for the wet year NSW has already had. Looking at the totals already in the Blue Mountains if I was on the Colo R or Hawksbury area especially in lower areas I’d be thinking to get out. Though looks like it is easing in Sydney suburbs. Small mercies.

As for Queensland epic overreaction. Todays forecast downgraded to shower of two, less than a mm overnight. Third upper trough due through tomorrow, the first 2 decayed without too much fanfare. Just a feeling the third will do same looking at satellite image today. Mackay and the Pioneer Valley has had some good falls but anywhere west of Nebo it falls right off.

Some mentioned gas, I have no choice where I live and we are in a Cyclone prone area. We have 2 9.5kg gas bottlers for the bbq, a butane stove with canisters and a 3.8KVa generator. That seems to last us through blackouts due to extreme weather.

P
P
July 3, 2022 9:09 am

Residents of Camden, Woronora, Chipping Norton, Lansdale, Moorebank, Warwick Farm and Georges Hill have been told to leave.

Lansvale.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 3, 2022 9:11 am

‘You will live in the pod.’

It’s Happening! (the Hun):

Desperate Melbourne renters happy to skimp on space could rent a single bed space shuttle-style pod, for a jaw-dropping $900 per month.

Listing images show six pod-style beds are stacked on top of each other in one of the bedrooms, while the three remaining upstairs bedrooms contain space for normal-sized beds.

Features for those who choose to rent a capsule for $250 per week include a “single bed equipped with own mirror, ventilating fan, USB ports, digital control panels, adjustable colour reading lights, safe locker, clothes hanger and curtain door for privacy.

The images attached to the piece look a bit sci-fi, and they’re described as ‘space shuttles’.

Landlord Frank Chan

Chinese pods!

highlights aspects that may be appealing to budding renters are there are ‘No bills to pay, no bond, and no minimum stay’ and that it is ‘cheaper the longer you stay’. There is also daily housekeeping and ‘24/7 staff’.

Apparently ‘no overcrowding is allowed’. Ominous.

calli
calli
July 3, 2022 9:11 am

As for Queensland epic overreaction.

Masks, anyone? 😀

Sunny one day, crackpot the next.

shatterzzz
July 3, 2022 9:11 am

And if during this ‘where’s me ark” Sunday your looking for some very good TV show to while away the hours try … THE OFFER .. mini series based on the making of the, original, GODFATHER movie .. very well dun and up there with the the movie itself .. 12/10 ..
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13111040/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 3, 2022 9:16 am

Cali 😉

Cassie, one other you might want to ask is where is Sam Clench leading the screeching pack of Murdoch minions calling for Sleazy’s head. Na the sound of silence…

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2022 9:18 am

Maybe QLD talking masks is to talk some of the attention of Pony Girl’s corruption findings.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 9:18 am

Hairy blissfully still sleeping the sleep of the just while the elements roar around us.

My study window looks out over next door’s tiled roof. They are a little further down the hill.
I will have to let them know what has happened and they can come over and view it from ours.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 3, 2022 9:19 am

Do we need to recall the recent slap in the face suffered by France in the brutal and unilateral breach of the contract for the purchase of Australian submarines by Australia, a member of the Commonwealth, which was orchestrated by the British and the Americans?
Pierre De Gaulle in a Speech on June 14 in Paris

Who gives a flying ?
Some Clown

The Breach of Contract was orchestrated by the British and Americans, which appears to indicate that decisions about Australia’s Defence are made in London and Washington.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 3, 2022 9:20 am

Grass is green. Water’s wet. The sky is blue (the Hun):

Militant construction union the CFMEU has repeatedly shut down sites across the West Gate Tunnel, threatening further delays on the already beleaguered project.

Police and WorkSafe visited construction crews on the project most days last week, as union officials caused chaos and forced lengthy shutdowns that risk more cost blowouts.

The West Gate Tunnel Project is already three years late, while its budget has soared from $6.7 billion to $10.8 billion.

And:

The CFMEU’s construction division state secretary, John Setka, was unapologetic about the latest tactics saying they were all about safety, and dismissed demarcation dispute concerns.

Even more unsurprisingly:

Last week, the Herald Sun revealed businesses were being threatened and their workers dumped from government projects over CFMEU demands, with accusations the Andrews Government was enabling the behaviour.

Insiders have labelled it blatant industrial coercion.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2022 9:20 am

Maybe the BoM was part right.
But how bad is water management in NSW.
A weekend of rain equals residential areas flooding?

JC
JC
July 3, 2022 9:22 am

These SCOTUS decisions are worthwhile just to laugh at the funny, outlandish leftist crap like this. In the Guardian.

The US supreme court has declared war on the Earth’s future

Hahahahahahaha

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 3, 2022 9:22 am

Residents of Camden, Woronora, Chipping Norton, Lansdale, Moorebank, Warwick Farm and Georges Hill have been told to leave.

Echoes of my question why do people live in Sydney? You shouldn’t need to be told to leave, just do it.

Cassie of Sydney
July 3, 2022 9:22 am

Watching Outsiders. Rowan Dean doesn’t mince words, he’s just said….

“I’ve got to tell you, increasingly, the legacy of Scott Morrison is a joke, an absolute joke.”

Spot on Rowan, spot on.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2022 9:24 am

JCsays:

July 3, 2022 at 8:49 am

Liz

What suburb is that. I forget.

I think it’s Mount Druitt.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 3, 2022 9:24 am

Rita highlighting TaliDan’s ambulance debacle.
An eighty four year old woman in our town had to wait four hours for an ambulance when she fell and broke her hip two weeks ago. This is not an isolated case either.

bespoke
bespoke
July 3, 2022 9:28 am

Echoes of my question why do people live in Sydney?

It’s the centre of univers, Bear.

You shouldn’t need to be told to leave, just do it.

Shut up!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 3, 2022 9:29 am

I think it’s Mount Druitt.

I reckon she said Penrith once. That might be it.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 3, 2022 9:30 am

Chipping Norton especially down by the end of Bankstown Airport runways is in a floodplain. Ditto parts of Moorebank & Macquarie Fields. Goes under regularly.

That said agreed BOM was right about Sydney basin this time.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 9:32 am

What is “gay radio”?

I listen to podcasts, youtubers and Dino rock.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 3, 2022 9:36 am

So Vic Libs are promising hundreds of thousands for gay radio

Because the libs haven’t attracted enough mincing poofs yet.

This statement, or part thereof, perfectly encapsulates the Liberal Party of Australia.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 9:36 am

She’s only concerned about the climate in Wentworth, in Sydney’s leafy eastern suburbs.

Oi, Cass. What’s she doing about my guttering gone and water on the floor? And next door’s skylight? Wentworth’s heartland of Vaucluse is suffering, I tell y’all, totally suffering.

Where’s that ‘better climate’ now, Allegra? It’s also freezing cold.
Get a move on, Princess. Step on the gas. Pour on the coal. We need Climate Action Now!!

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2022 9:36 am

“I’ve got to tell you, increasingly, the legacy of Scott Morrison is a joke, an absolute joke.”

SloMo’s legacy is the Albanese government.

Zipster
July 3, 2022 9:37 am

What is “gay radio”?

Kylie Minogue’s greatest hits

calli
calli
July 3, 2022 9:37 am

Oi! Don’t diss the western burbs! I’m a Proud Cabramatta Woman.

I hope Shatterzzz is tucked up warmly out there at Fairfield. I suspect the main source of flooding will be from the Orphan School “Creek”. The big problem though is that it’s all a clay basin just waiting to be filled, much like a dam. The teeny, twisty watercourses running through it just don’t drain fast enough, and even if they did, all that happens is that floodwater is delivered at speed lower down.

Add high tides into the mix for extra floody goodness.

Cassie of Sydney
July 3, 2022 9:39 am

So the Biden administration has picked a woman to be the next US ambassador to Brazil who said this…

“she claims the “Jewish lobby” exerts undue influence over the Democratic Party with its “major money.”

Hmm, here in Australia the electors of Goldstein recently voted for a woman who wrote this back in 2017….

“US president Donald Trump has declared Jerusalem Israel’s capital as a way of “satisfying his wealthy Jewish ­donors”.”

Ahhhhhh…..the left and anti-Semitism. Must be their “legitimate grievances”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2022 9:39 am

My weekly ritual is to read the Sunday Tele.
Can I please have one week where Richard Wilkins offspring doesn’t get a full page spread ?

Zipster
July 3, 2022 9:39 am

Get a move on, Princess. Step on the gas. Pour on the coal. We need Climate Action Now!!

well at least in UnZed they can throw another virgin into the volcano…

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 3, 2022 9:41 am

What’s the thought process behind this?

A pair of immaculately colour-coordinated, exfoliated and coiffed young men in a Volvo, bopping along to George Michael songs and going ‘Thanks Matthew Guy!’?

Are they sponsoring monkeypox yet?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 3, 2022 9:42 am

What is “gay radio”?

Basically the ALPBC but it gives you monkeypox.

calli
calli
July 3, 2022 9:42 am

Ahahaha, Bern! The Beloved said exactly the same thing moments ago.

Slow news day.

Things will be better tomorrow when they can shriek about the floods. But carefully avoid calling upon the PM to return to his ravaged state to offer succour and comfort.

John Sheldrick
July 3, 2022 9:46 am

The Breach of Contract was orchestrated by the British and Americans, which appears to indicate that decisions about Australia’s Defence are made in London and Washington.

Head Case. Are you now an ‘eggs spurt’ in Contract law and how major Contracts are structured and administered? Major Contracts are split up into various Sections and non-performance of any one Section could mean the whole Contract being cancelled, or, compensation, or…………The French just found it too difficult to perform and meet the Contract conditions. Blame ‘TurnBullShit’ as it seems to be his idea to convert a Nuclear Sub to Diesel power. LOL. Aren’t we supposed to be moving away from Fossil Fuels according to the ‘Climate Alarmists’. How hypocritical and what an engineering nightmare.

The French got compensation money so they can STFU.

Just like you are an ‘eggs spurt’ on the geography of the Baltic Sea region and nearby Russia. Your estimates of distances from A to B in the Baltic Sea region yesterday were way off beam as pointed out by enlightened Posters on this Blog. Just like you are an ‘eggs spurt’ on loads and loads of other stuff apparently. Not!!

You can now go back to sleep and dream about whatever.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 9:47 am

Agony aunt time. I almost didn’t post this.

I will try not to be invidious or mean.

I know a very fat chick who went to the Melbourne abortion rally. In my mind, she is physically revolting. She is also loud and opinionated. No sane men would touch her. She has a boyfriend, but he is weak and effeminate.

The idea of this chick ever needing an abortion is absurd like when on those fatty shows on pay TV, where the 700 lb woman has a boyfriend. I’m not trying to be mean. 40 years ago, a woman over 100 kg would be laughed out of a dating service.

I feel guilty. We have friends in common, but I can’t stand this person. I know her older bother and sister well and they are very productive members of society. The younger sister has a soft social science degree that is only marketable because of the scope of the welfare state.

I have vented to about four blokes in our social group how I can’t stand this woman. One was her brother (!), one was a guy who just got licensed at the time as a clinical psychologist. “I know this is going to annoy you, but just be nice is the best way to deal with your problem” was the advice.

I don’t get how this chick is so popular. She has a very negative, mopey personality. Is everyone else faking it? I am about the oldest in the social group. I would say I am friends – actual friends with just about everyone else except for one guy her age with a similar whiny personality. I asked my psych friend – I can’t stand these people, they are popular but they make me irate.

Why can’t I slap sense into these people?

Worst thing in my mind when she was giving life advice at 21.

Sure, some people might be able to, but no kids, no husband, no career and no home ownership or financial independence. I was just infuriated. She used to meddle in things. One night I turned down a drunk chick. She had to intervene. For “safety”. Fuck off.

I cannot fathom how she has any social cache. Are these poor saps all too afraid to look like an arsehole?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 3, 2022 9:48 am

Can I please have one week where Richard Wilkins offspring doesn’t get a full page spread ?

It’s to remind Dickie where they all are for Fathers Day.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 3, 2022 9:51 am

What is “gay radio”?
Pleonasm.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 9:53 am

A pair of immaculately colour-coordinated, exfoliated and coiffed young men in a Volvo, bopping along to George Michael songs and going ‘Thanks Matthew Guy!’?

The fuck do we need gay radio? The entertainment industry was always a “safe space” for talentless gays, look at how Coldplay were tolerated.

JC
JC
July 3, 2022 9:53 am

Went to see Maverick last night. The flying shows were great but the movie plot was just stupid.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 9:53 am

JC, I report from behind enemy lines here in Teal Assoluta, aka Wentworth.

Same as you do from Toorak and whatever piece of the Upper East Side NY you’ve purchased.

I grew up in Housing Commission in St. Mary’s, then a run-down backlot in Mt. Druitt, and went to school for three years in Penrith High when the collecting area spread from Warragamba to Plumpton to Glenbrook and to Seven Hills/Blacktown.

Sydney is my city. I’ve lived all over the place in various suburbs of it at one time or another and have rellies spread from Newcastle to Nowra.

You and KD can go and have fun with that now.

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2022 9:54 am

What’s the thought process behind this?

I would expect they’re matching or promising more than what Andrews is.

Makka
Makka
July 3, 2022 9:54 am

The SFL’s in Vic would get thousands more votes by simply saying ” when in Gov’t we will not squander your hard earned by frittering it away on vanity projects such as gay radio”. And it won’t cost them or us a razoo.

With that announcement, they get not one single vote. It’s a wonder people that dumb can breathe.

johanna
johanna
July 3, 2022 9:54 am

P says:
July 3, 2022 at 9:09 am

Residents of Camden, Woronora, Chipping Norton, Lansdale, Moorebank, Warwick Farm and Georges Hill have been told to leave.

Lansvale.

Correct.

And Georges Hall, FFS. Why would a hill be flooded?

As usual, ‘journalists’ who have never been west of Leichhardt, and can’t be bothered checking.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 9:55 am

Will Bass Hill be flooded? I’ll call Trent. He might be up with his Mum at Woy Woy.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 3, 2022 9:56 am

Bringing the best cage bed ideas from Hong Kong and improving the quality.

“Landlord Frank Chan”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 3, 2022 9:57 am

I bet Richard Wilkins, when he was hosting a Saturday morning music clip show for regional Victoria’s BTV6, never thought he’d have a trash tache-owning son wearing a dress in public.

bespoke
bespoke
July 3, 2022 9:57 am

I cannot fathom how she has any social cache. Are these poor saps all too afraid to look like an arsehole?

Yes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2022 9:58 am

Knuckle Draggersays:

July 3, 2022 at 9:29 am

I think it’s Mount Druitt.

I reckon she said Penrith once. That might be it.

I think it was that fancy French sounding suburb.
Is it Brighton-Le-Sands?
Although, the description above sounds a bit like Kurnell.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2022 9:59 am

JC, won’t don’t you sell your place in NY & move to the lower west side.
A loft in Chelsea or Greenwich.
Where all the cool kids hang out.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 9:59 am

Dee Why

Doonside at the Beach. 🙂

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 3, 2022 9:59 am

Lisichansk fell overnight.

That’s nothing.
Putin has been humiliated again, according to the Daily Snail.
A landing craft hit a sea mine.
I’m really looking forward to a Putin Humiliated As Ukraine Destroys Last Dniepr Bridge headline from them.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 3, 2022 9:59 am

The Liberal Party used to be known as the Poofters Party, a coupla hundred grand is a small price to pay to nudge the LBGTs into abandoning the
Right Wing in the form of Labor/Greens.

JC
JC
July 3, 2022 9:59 am

I don’t live in Toorak, Liz.

Toorak would be like living in Vaucluse. 🙂

Hugh
Hugh
July 3, 2022 10:00 am

The dams on my property are all overflannerying.

bespoke
bespoke
July 3, 2022 10:02 am

What a about daddy’s race cars?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 10:02 am

Weather has quietened down a bit here on the edge of the known universe.
(we’ve only recently managed to achieve a half-way decent mobile phone coverage)

White water rising high as surf bashes in from between the heads onto the harbour shores opposite us.

Just as it has always done when the Pacific oscillation is oscillating floods not droughts.

JC
JC
July 3, 2022 10:03 am

Bern

We looked around there, but wifey wanted a place close to pals and we’re familiar with where we are.

We almost bid on a joint in east 10th street but decided against it.

Upper east side is nice and very boring, which at our stage in life is how we like it.

Hugh
Hugh
July 3, 2022 10:04 am

Just when you thought AOC couldn’t get any dumber…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TopJ7b9b_E

shatterzzz
July 3, 2022 10:04 am

soooooo after a cozy hug-athon wiv Macaroon Tanzy has mooved onto Portugal! .. what on earth sort of dealings do we have with Portugal that requires a personal visit by our Environment minister or for that matter “any” Oz minister?
AnAl is still in France .. for some reason, as well!

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 3, 2022 10:05 am

Witless Dickless

The Breach of Contract was orchestrated by the British and Americans, which appears to indicate that decisions about Australia’s Defence are made in London and Washington.

The contract included a clause allowing it to be terminated.

But please do carry on with your paranoia.

PS, I do love your comment over at CL’s blog:

“The Dems are the Right Wing of the Repubs,”

It is right (sic) up there with your opinion that the Slime and Liars are both right wing parties.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2022 10:06 am

feelthebernsays:

July 3, 2022 at 9:59 am

JC, won’t don’t you sell your place in NY & move to the lower west side.
A loft in Chelsea or Greenwich.
Where all the cool kids hang out

Not a good idea.
The ironed jeans and tasseled loafers would stick out like a dog’s sore thumb.

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2022 10:07 am

What’s the thought process behind this?

I would expect they’re matching or promising more than what Andrews is.

It’s thew new sectionalism.

Social identity groups are indulged by politicians at the expense of the common weal.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 3, 2022 10:09 am

Portugal and Australia = the East Timor issue, which is still bubblin’ 47 years after Portugal bailed.
What’s Plibersek doing there instead of Wong?
Catholic Issue, perhaps

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 3, 2022 10:09 am

Rogersays:
July 3, 2022 at 9:36 am
“I’ve got to tell you, increasingly, the legacy of Scott Morrison is a joke, an absolute joke.”

SloMo’s legacy is the Albanese government.

Thus confirming the original statement.

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2022 10:11 am

what on earth sort of dealings do we have with Portugal that requires a personal visit by our Environment minister

She’s there to announce to the world that we’ll be giving millions of $ to “blue carbon” projects in developing countries.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 10:12 am
Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 10:13 am

The contract included a clause allowing it to be terminated.

They’re the government. They can do as they please.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2022 10:13 am

Denis Leary stole I’m an asshole from Louis CK.

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2022 10:13 am

Portugal is hosting the UN Oceans Conference.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 3, 2022 10:13 am

Ed October’s low energy today.

Just dialling it in.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2022 10:14 am

Plibbers.
The Portuguese tart.

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2022 10:14 am

Naturally she received a warm reception from the gathered grifters whose pockets we’ll be lining.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 3, 2022 10:21 am

Ed Casesays:
July 3, 2022 at 9:59 am
The Liberal Party used to be known as the Poofters Party, a coupla hundred grand is a small price to pay to nudge the LBGTs into abandoning the
Right Wing in the form of Labor/Greens.

ROFLMAO. I hardly finish commenting on Dick Ed’s political drivel, and he regurgitates it!

Hey, Dickless, you spent most of the election period touting for “Scotty” and the Libs (that left wing party founded by Menzies, in your judgement). Now you say they were known as the Poofters Party. Is there something you wish to tell us? Flamer? (Not that there’s anything wrong with that, just that it is not everyone’s preference.)

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 10:21 am

What a about daddy’s race cars?

Another story, Bespoke, and a true one.
He was uncultured but became well-off as a young man in England, where he drove racing cars.
He suffered from delusional grandiosity in Australia. Spent his money wildly on car racing.
He insisted on learning to fly, at Bankstown aerodrome. I went up with him a few times.
We, his family, suffered for it. We were left very poor, and unacceptable in the town.
My mother was a coal-miner’s daughter, couldn’t cope, became psychiatric, like him.
She had a family background that encouraged a retreat into the paranormal.
You’d have to know my father and of his younger days to understand it. An unusual man.
He didn’t exactly come voluntarily to Australia; he was sent here, in 1945. A black sheep.
We followed in 1946. I am finding out more as I investigate our ancestry and family church.

Tom
Tom
July 3, 2022 10:24 am

Years ago, I remember the ABC made available transcripts of all its political shows, like Sunday’s Insiders. It mat still do.

It occurs to me that Sky News should make available the written scripts already in its possession of Sunday’s Outsiders — especially the scripts delivered by Rowan Dean (who’s also the Australian editor of The Spectator magazine).

Dean is one of the few original thinkers in the Australian media. His rant today on the need for a royal commission into the overreaction to Kung Flu by Australian federal and state governments was first-class.

I’m sure there is a niche publishing market for the writings of Sky news commentators who swim against the trash tide of Australian politics.

bespoke
bespoke
July 3, 2022 10:24 am

LOL! Dot.

Reminded me of when I called the Mil as serving wench.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2022 10:25 am

Seeing the Margot Robbie photos on the Barbie movie set can anyone believe Amy Schumer was their first choice?

Zipster
July 3, 2022 10:25 am

No Escape! Recession Will Destroy Wealth. Period.
In today’s show, we review the weeks market action, starting in the US – by far the most influential market, followed by Europe, Asia and Australia. There is no place to hide. Wealth is being destroyed. And there is no end in sight. Data is flagging recession, as central banks continue to raise rates and given the astronomical debt burden out there this is a big deal.

Even conservative investment strategies are being hit. “This is a train wreck,” says Alex Dunnin, executive director of research house Rainmaker Group. “When a traditionally conservative strategy is getting the worst returns then all bets are off. It doesn’t matter where you go, almost everyone will be in pain.”

bespoke
bespoke
July 3, 2022 10:28 am

He suffered from delusional grandiosity in Australia.

LOL!

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2022 10:28 am

Reducing liquidity and or increasing the risk free rate will take some excessiveness out of a lot of asset classes.
How one defines excessiveness is in the eye of the beholder.

Makka
Makka
July 3, 2022 10:31 am

It doesn’t matter where you go, almost everyone will be in pain.”

I see 10yr yields have come off significantly.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 10:31 am

Upper east side is nice and very boring, which at our stage in life is how we like it.

lol. Just like harbourside Vaucluse, JC. That’s how we like it too. 🙂

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 3, 2022 10:31 am

Dot:
Why can’t I slap sense into these people?…

You should already know the answer to this, Dot.

Change the context for a minute, Dot. Think about changing the minds of the global warming
cohort who believe that the would is ending. Even when the lights finally go out will they wake up. It’s a bit like lemmings who crave the sea.

Are these poor saps all too afraid to look like an arsehole?

It starts with not wanting to be excluded – and the loudest, most obnoxious ones control that process.

Take a look at a bit of that Mark Dice in the USA, on youtube, go out into the streets and ask questions of the people he meets. Even the most outrageous subjects will find these saps too afraid to stand up and argue against the obvious stupidities that are given credibility in the media and elsewhere. They’ve been brought up on equity/diversity, feelings-and-welcoming-everyone mindset, no matter what it is – think drag queen story time.

Post modernism, in all its glory, combined with moral posturing has brought this about. So many people today are too afraid to stand up and say what is right because they fear censure and exclusion. As long as the bullying by these fools is not actually being directed at “me” it’s nothing to worry about.

But that’s how the world changes; little by little, as the common-sense of a few generations ago withers on the vine. The don’t want to change; they want to get on.

vr
vr
July 3, 2022 10:32 am

OK I am at a dead end. Twitter blocking me from reading posts unless I log in, that one they can go eat a big bag of hairy male appendages. They have always been free to see till recently.

They seem to have clamped down on access via pc/ipad. Access via mobile phone seems to work. But, you might need to clear history occassionally.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 10:35 am

He suffered from delusional grandiosity in Australia.

LOL!

LOL indeed, Bespoke. Don’t look at me for that, I am far too self-aware.

Strikes me you may well have a touch of it though.
You are always going on as Mr. Smartypants. Truly delusional, imho.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 3, 2022 10:37 am

There’s nothing quite as dangerous to Australia’s security and economic prosperity than freshly minted Labor party ministers on overseas junkets, having high level discussions with foreigners and signing whatever piece of paper a greasy new world order grifter puts under their noses for a photo op.

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2022 10:38 am

America, as the world’s only successful multiracial democratic republic, was always fragile. It was and is always one generation away from disappearing—should any cohort become so foolish as to mock its past, dismantle its institutions, revert to tribalism, redistribute rather than create wealth, and consume rather than invest…

Joe Biden took a strong economy—albeit one that after three serial spendthrift presidencies faced huge national debt and a rendezvous with fiscal sobriety—and has utterly ruined it.

America’s bounty was predicated on each generation following the prompt of the prior, modulating when change was necessary, but not daring to tamper with the foundational principles and values that explained our singular wealth, power, and leisure.

This generation in its arrogance tested fate. It felt itself smarter and morally superior to its betters of the past. It lost that wager and now we the public are paying for its foolishness. To destroy America as we have always known it, there was far less necessary to ruin than our elite believed.

Victor Davis Hanson, America is more fragile than the Left understands.

JC
JC
July 3, 2022 10:39 am

Not a good idea.
The ironed jeans and tasseled loafers would stick out like a dog’s sore thumb.

Even the homeless are college educated whites, Sanchez.

A funny story. I had a pack of cigs and didn’t want to take them home as I’d get a double cause of grief from wifey and the kid. I offered them to a homeless white dude. He didn’t want them because they weren’t his brand!True.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 10:39 am

It starts with not wanting to be excluded

Ainsley Kellow’s excellent article on the climate cult (this month’s Quadrant magazine) makes this point about the cognitive dissonance that people, particularly the Teals, try to avoid about climate beliefs vs real world evidence, which makes them unable to leave the cult.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 3, 2022 10:39 am

Watched Mary Shelly last night, SBS on demand. Brilliant. Do yourselves a favour.

Tom
Tom
July 3, 2022 10:40 am

On Sky Outsiders, James Morrow just invented a new phrase worthy of Muddy’s Catictionary: a priesthood of experts.

Splendid! Well done, James.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 10:42 am

There’s nothing quite as dangerous to Australia’s security and economic prosperity than freshly minted Labor party ministers on overseas junkets, having high level discussions with foreigners and signing whatever piece of paper a greasy new world order grifter puts under their noses for a photo op.

Very true. They need to be tethered to Canberra where they can do no more harm than usual.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 3, 2022 10:42 am

JC wife offered homeless outside shopping centre food instead of money. Not hungry. Tells us a lot.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 10:45 am

On Sky Outsiders, James Morrow just invented a new phrase worthy of Muddy’s Catictionary: a priesthood of experts.

Splendid! Well done, James.

Yes. I am also quite fond of the term ‘clerisy’ although it has a slightly broader meaning and is less well known in popular usage.

James’ Sky show on the US, which we watched on Friday, has started well. Not boring, full of info.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2022 10:45 am

bespokesays:

July 3, 2022 at 8:57 am

83% chance of 5 o’clock Charlie buzzing around today.

Faulty hasn’t issued today’s talking points yet.
Not that they’ll be a lot different to all the days which have gone before.

areff
areff
July 3, 2022 10:46 am

Watched Mary Shelly last night

Beaut, ain’t it. The big bloke who plays Byron is particularly good.

areff
areff
July 3, 2022 10:48 am
dopey
dopey
July 3, 2022 10:48 am

Camden is part of Sydney now. OK, if they insist.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 3, 2022 10:55 am

JC wife offered homeless outside shopping centre food instead of money. Not hungry.

The homeless just walk into a supermarket, pick up something edible like a kilo of cheese and walk out while munching into it.
Then discard what they don’t want in the parking lot.
Been happening for years, it’s the reason derros hang around Shopping Centres.
Best advice in this situation?
Don’t leave home without a pocketfulla change!

JC
JC
July 3, 2022 10:59 am

GreyRanga says:
July 3, 2022 at 10:42 am

JC wife offered homeless outside shopping centre food instead of money. Not hungry. Tells us a lot.

Is that what I said? Huh?

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2022 10:59 am

I’m two or three episodes into Terminal List.
It’s up & down.
A 40 year old SEAL team leader?
I think Jocko said he led his last mission at 36.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2022 10:59 am

So, JC.
Is the plot-free “Maverick” worth a look?
I am thinking it might strike a chord with me because I do identify as a Maverick myself.

bespoke
bespoke
July 3, 2022 11:03 am

I do identify as a Maverick myself.

Its contagious!

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 3, 2022 11:03 am

Dick Ed

Best advice in this situation?
Don’t leave home without a pocketfulla change!

Why?

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2022 11:06 am

I’m predicting the the plot twist later in the series already.
And the who.
This is not well written.

JC
JC
July 3, 2022 11:07 am

Sanchez

If you can stomach the rest of the Hollywood bullshit like the crash and escape then it’s worth it just for the jet scenes.
I trust though that like me, you will be wishing Tom Cruise and the others died in a slow, painful, firey crash halfway through the movie.

Jennifer Connelly is appalling as all she does in the movie is give a stupid fucking loving smile when talking to Cruise.

And give me a fucking break, the enemy countryside looks eggsactly like the forests around the Rockies.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 11:11 am

I don’t get how this chick is so popular. She has a very negative, mopey personality.

Personality dynamics within a group can be strange and difficult to untangle. Everyone gets something different out of it, and some people are happy to be the lowest in a pecking order which groups tend to develop; and groups need someone who is lowest, so maybe that’s why she is tolerated. Or perhaps people just feel sorry for her. Hard to say without knowing her myself. It could also be that she has other more positive characteristics that you don’t see, Dot. Or other relationships with group members in other contexts.

How to cope with it? Follow Aunt Mary, advisor on The Spectator. She always comes up with something good from left field.

Or you could simply pick on her. Bespoke can advise on that.

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 11:12 am

On Monday three days after the Supreme Court issued its groundbreaking decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an Indianapolis obstetrician-gynecologist, took a call from a colleague, a child abuse doctor in Ohio.

Hours after the Supreme Court action, the Buckeye state had outlawed any abortion after six weeks. Now this doctor had a 10-year-old patient in the office who was six weeks and three days pregnant.

Could Bernard help?

Indiana lawmakers are poised to further restrict or ban abortion in mere weeks. The Indiana General Assembly will convene in a special session July 25 when it will discuss restrictions to abortion policy along with inflation relief.

Dobbs already causing the worst case scenario: a 10-year-old rape victim who risks jail for trying to seek an abortion under Republican law.

Everyone involved in the project to repeal Roe hates women.

JC
JC
July 3, 2022 11:13 am

Questions:

If the US is going to go through an unhealthy period of high inflation, then why is the 10 year bond yeild rallying to below 3% after going close to touching 3.5%? If there’s going to be a sustained period of high inflation then why is the Aussie in the toilet at around 68 cents and commodities are copping it up the rear?

Perhaps we’re heading into a recession and the Fed and others will be easing monetary policy or at least signalling the tightening phase is over.

Makka
Makka
July 3, 2022 11:13 am

I’m two or three episodes into Terminal List.

“The Tunnel” on SBS isn’t a bad series at all. Many layered onion plot and decent acting. Starting S3 now. Fkg cops.

bespoke
bespoke
July 3, 2022 11:13 am

No volleyball scene?
Is this why JC’s not happy?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 11:15 am

Lizzie, just released from the paywall:

Terrific, areff. It deserves to be widely read and distributed.

It contains all the quick info you need to demolish a Teal’s case and show what they are up to.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2022 11:16 am

I trust though that like me, you will be wishing Tom Cruise and the others died in a slow, painful, firey crash halfway through the movie.

Err, that has been my fervent hope since 1985.

And give me a fucking break, the enemy countryside looks eggsactly like the forests around the Rockies.

That’s so audiences in NYC and LA can fantasise about the USN strafing MAGA-people in flyover country.

Makka
Makka
July 3, 2022 11:17 am

then why is the 10 year bond yeild rallying to below 3% after going close to touching 3.5%?

I said as much earlier.

Absent anything stupid going on with WTI, I think the market sees the worst has passed or now passing and the risk is definitely much lower growth.

why is the Aussie in the toilet at around 68 cents and commodities are copping it up the rear?

The USD is on a tear and will go higher yet I expect. But when it flames out, the AUD will be a buy for years. Back to the .8000’s

John Sheldrick
July 3, 2022 11:18 am

JCsays:
July 3, 2022 at 10:59 am
GreyRanga says:
July 3, 2022 at 10:42 am

JC wife offered homeless outside shopping centre food instead of money. Not hungry. Tells us a lot.

Is that what I said? Huh?

If you give money then it will likely go on drugs. For the homeless, there are loads of places around Sydney where they can get a good feed and help. They just need to get off their arse and look. I would just buy them a cup of coffee/tea/hot chocolate if anything.

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 11:21 am

Perhaps we’re heading into a recession and the Fed and others will be easing monetary policy or at least signalling the tightening phase is over.

I’m with the Kouk on this one, I don’t know why people are pulling their hair out over a coming recession.

Apart from war and short-term factors, inflation is high partly because the labour market is tight, and the labour market is tight because immigration is way down post-COVID. The price of everything is going up in Western countries, including labour, because there isn’t a supply of immigrants to do the low-paid crappy jobs that help run the economy.

This situation is not supposed to be the precursor to a recession. It causes some problems, but a recession should not be one of them… unless the stock market busts for some reason.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 3, 2022 11:22 am

On Monday three days after the Supreme Court issued its groundbreaking decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an Indianapolis obstetrician-gynecologist, took a call from a colleague, a child abuse doctor in Ohio.

Hours after the Supreme Court action, the Buckeye state had outlawed any abortion after six weeks. Now this doctor had a 10-year-old patient in the office who was six weeks and three days pregnant.

Your link doesn’t appear to mention that story.
Sounds like Doctors and Ob/Gyns will be under even more Legal scrutiny though, that isn’t going to help Republican candidates anywhere.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:22 am

a 10-year-old rape victim who risks jail

This cannot be verified because of child protection rules and they would not be indictable.

Makka
Makka
July 3, 2022 11:23 am

Can the drivel, mOron.

bespoke
bespoke
July 3, 2022 11:23 am

I would just buy them a cup of coffee/tea/hot chocolate if anything.

Better to do nothing then a token justiure that enables it.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:23 am

Apart from war and short-term factors, inflation is high partly because the labour market is tight, and the labour market is tight because immigration is way down post-COVID. The price of everything is going up in Western countries, including labour, because there isn’t a supply of immigrants to do the low-paid crappy jobs that help run the economy.

No. Government hiring is booming.

Inflation is always a monetary phenomenon.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:26 am

t could also be that she has other more positive characteristics that you don’t see, Dot.

No.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 3, 2022 11:26 am

The price of everything is going up in Western countries, including labour, because there isn’t a supply of immigrants to do the low-paid crappy jobs that help run the economy.

Might raising the Minimum Wage help solve that problem?
Albanese was gung ho about raising the Minimum Wage before he got Elected, he’s gone to water since.

cohenite
July 3, 2022 11:26 am

Why can’t I slap sense into these people?

You can bash ’em but not for the purpose of inducing sense. These people are genetic dead-ends. Without the social infrastructure they would have been eaten by sabre tooths; but with the social infrastructure they survive and are destroying that infrastructure.

John Sheldrick
July 3, 2022 11:26 am

The USD is on a tear and will go higher yet I expect. But when it flames out, the AUD will be a buy for years. Back to the .8000’s

The US Dollar is up because of Capital flows into the USA especially Capital Flows from Europe resulting from the Russian ‘Police Action’ in the Ukraine. International Capital votes with its feet and the USA Markets are the safest right now especially the US Currency. All IMHO and my brief outlook on the situation.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:28 am

I think Jocko said he led his last mission at 36.

He’s full of himself. Goggins is a better man.

I don’t hate Jocko. He needs humility.

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 11:29 am

This cannot be verified because of child protection rules and they would not be indictable.

Any adult who helps her would be indictable, in some states.

JC
JC
July 3, 2022 11:29 am

No volleyball scene?
Is this why JC’s not happy?

Close, and it was also massively gay.

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 11:30 am

Oops sorry, wrong link for the 10-year-old rape victim story.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:31 am

Seeing the Margot Robbie photos on the Barbie movie set can anyone believe Amy Schumer was their first choice?

Especially with the pink cowgirl hat gear and white cowgirl hat.

Dad called warhammer soldiers “dolls”, tough luck champ, I’m into that shit now.

Ah yes, Amy Schumer.

If only I could hear more about her fabulous genitals. That will make her as funny as Mel Brooks or Norm Macdonald.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 3, 2022 11:31 am

The Ohio exception rule.

The only “hard case” exception, according to ORC 2919.193(B),[7] are in cases in which there is a medical emergency, defined in 2919.16(F) & (K): “serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman.”[8] This does not include potential bodily damage that stems from the woman’s mental health.

I would expect that a ten year old giving birth would fit this description.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 11:32 am

The USD is on a tear and will go higher yet I expect. But when it flames out, the AUD will be a buy for years. Back to the .8000’s

Heading to the US in October. Will if flame out by then?

Probably not. The mid-terms will be on. Should be interesting.

Have to struggle along somehow with the little Aussie dollar treading water.

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 11:34 am

I would expect that a ten year old giving birth would fit this description.

Evidently it did not, otherwise she would have had the abortion in Ohio instead of Indiana.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:34 am

I would expect that a ten year old giving birth would fit this description.

I expected this to be the law, but the abortion fanatics don’t care about the truth. Normal people just swallow bullshit up uncritically.

Chick at work: America passed a law to ban abortion.

Me: No they didn’t!

Chick: Yes they did, that’s what I’m reading here…

Me: [Grabs Beanie, sits on fence, squints]; It’s complicated.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2022 11:34 am

I’m not sure why the Australia-France relationship is viewed as being so important.
It would be 100x more important for the Australia-Indonesia relationship to be better than what it is.
If it wasn’t for the efforts of private business to engage with Indonesia, it would be hard to fathom how bad the relationship would be.
Maybe the DFAT chappies prefer trips to Western Europe than the hotter, stickier parts to our north.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:36 am

Evidently it did not

Bullshit. Any sane doctor will tell you 10 year olds shouldn’t give birth.

JC
JC
July 3, 2022 11:37 am

Yep, the terrain looked like Iran or North Korea.

Like its predecessor, Top Gun: Maverick was filmed primarily in San Diego, California, but also in Nevada, Utah, and Washington State.

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 11:37 am

Bullshit. Any sane doctor will tell you 10 year olds shouldn’t give birth.

The rules governing doctor conduct in Ohio are not sane, evidently. But hey, that’s what Republicans want.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 3, 2022 11:39 am

I’m not sure why the Australia-France relationship is viewed as being so important.
New Caledonia?
It’s pretty close to Queensland.

John Sheldrick
July 3, 2022 11:39 am

Apart from war and short-term factors, inflation is high partly because the labour market is tight, and the labour market is tight because immigration is way down post-COVID. The price of everything is going up in Western countries, including labour, because there isn’t a supply of immigrants to do the low-paid crappy jobs that help run the economy.

There are many factors but the Virus Lockdowns have helped destroy the previous ‘Just in Time’ Supply Chains and Businesses. Now ‘Just in Time’ isn’t working at all. It’s a Worldwide thing and look at China with their Lockdowns. Society and Industry gets disrupted no end with all of this madness. Vaccine Mandates don’t help either and with more and more workers getting sick (The Virus, Virus side effects, the Flu, etc.), there just aren’t enough workers available. The Unemployed has an Army of low-paid ‘Workers’ who won’t do those crappy Jobs.

Time for me to get that Farm and guns and ammo’………………..lol.

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 11:39 am

I mean, it’s a valiant effort you lot are making to pin this on the doctor, but the villain here is the law, not the doctor who doesn’t want to get sued out of the profession. The doctor has to make a decision about the rest of their career, and the 10-year-old rape victim doesn’t have a strong enough case under SCOTUS law. That is what the implications of the law are: women get stiffed every time. Because the people who wrote the laws hate women.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:40 am

The rules governing doctor conduct in Ohio are not sane, evidently.

You’re just making this up.

Evidently it did not, otherwise she would have had the abortion in Ohio instead of Indiana.

This story continues to be unverifiable because of child protection laws.

The law in Ohio allows for protection of the mother’s health. “No it doesn’t because Ohio medical regulation I have not read demands 10 year old rape victims give birth!!!11”

This is what your “HaTiNG WoMEn!!!” insanity boils down to. Your unfounded assertions and the self interest of an abortion doctor.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:41 am

but the villain here is the law, not the doctor who doesn’t want to get sued out of the profession.

Who is going to sue him monty? What is the mystery Ohio medical regulation that regards minors giving birth as safe?

You insane, desperate shill.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2022 11:42 am

I would expect that a ten year old giving birth would fit this description.

Yes. I would apply that to any child under fourteen, possibly fifteen or sixteen in some cases.
Very young women can be quite physically damaged by a childbirth. Pregnancy, and especially birth itself, puts extraordinary strains on the female body, and much more so if that body is immature.

It is also a very cruel thing to put a child through in emotional terms.
Definitely child abuse on top of the rape of a ten year old.

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 11:42 am

This story continues to be unverifiable because of child protection laws.

Your whole answer to this story – which is perfectly believable given the legal situation – is “it didn’t happen”. That’s your entire argument.

The cognitive dissonance, it burns you.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 3, 2022 11:42 am

I would just buy them a cup of coffee/tea/hot chocolate if anything.

If they haven’t got the vim, vigour, dash and personal drive to at least sit there and sing Midnight Oil covers, and to the accompaniment of clinking empty VB stubbies, they get nothing from me.

Show some initiative.

Forester
July 3, 2022 11:43 am

TWITTER

Try replacing ‘twitter.com’ like this

https://nitter.net/New_Catallaxy

miltonf
miltonf
July 3, 2022 11:44 am

The blaming is a little intellectually lazy sometimes compared the effort it takes to demonstrate alternatives.

We’re always talking about ‘alternatives’ here which have been tried, tested and proved to be very successful

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 3, 2022 11:45 am

The Unemployed has an Army of low-paid ‘Workers’ who won’t do those crappy Jobs.

Immigration Shill, eh?
The Federal Government encourages [and subsidises] Employers to employ
ESL migrants.
Why do you suppose so many truckdrivers [not a “crappy” job] are Sikhs from the Jat caste?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 3, 2022 11:45 am

I’m with the Kouk on this one …

There’s something you don’t hear everyday. I think Mr Palaszczuk’s judgment has a question mark against it. Greeks should stick to shipping.

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 11:46 am

It is touching that you lot maintain some faith in public institutions in red states to protect vulnerable girls in these horrific situations, but they just don’t. Because they are controlled by Republicans who hate women. This is a direct result of Dobbs, there is no wriggling out of it through technicalities. This is what the law was meant to do. No exceptions, no backsies, no get out of jail free cards. Carry your rapist’s child to term as an 11-year-old mother or get out of the state.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:46 am

Your whole answer to this story – which is perfectly believable given the legal situation – is “it didn’t happen”. That’s your entire argument.

No, that is one of three/four parts to my argument.

The other two are that you are making shit up about the medical board rules in Ohio (as the law never banned abortions for dangerous pregnancies) which you refuse to verify or substantiate and you are relying on the self interest of an abortionist.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:47 am

Carry your rapist’s child to term as an 11-year-old mother or get out of the state.

That’s not even true you fucking idiot.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
July 3, 2022 11:49 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
July 3, 2022 at 8:15 am

Oh – you can charge your phone in the car (always keep the tank over half full).

We almost got caught out while touring SA at the time of the big blackout. Fueled-up from -empty to full about half an hour before the power tripped. It helped as we searched for sustenance in darkened supermarkets soon after.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 3, 2022 11:50 am

m0nty says:
July 3, 2022 at 11:34 am
I would expect that a ten year old giving birth would fit this description.
Evidently it did not, otherwise she would have had the abortion in Ohio instead of Indiana.

The abortion practitioner Dr Bernard is the source of the story.
Who refused the abortion in Ohio?

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 11:50 am

She had to leave the state to get an abortion, Dot. That is fact.

You can keep on keening like a banshee, but the facts in this story aren’t going to change. There will be countless stories like this in red states in years to come. It will be commonplace. This is the obvious and inevitable consequence of repealing Roe. It was always going to happen this way.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 3, 2022 11:50 am

Carry your rapist’s child to term as an 11-year-old mother or get out of the state.
Hey, there are plenty of childless couples who would give their eye teeth to get holda that baby!

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 3, 2022 11:50 am

Dobbs already causing the worst case scenario: a 10-year-old rape victim who risks jail for trying to seek an abortion under Republican law.

Everyone involved in the project to repeal Roe hates women.

m0nty-fa, B Ec (Failed First Year), B J’ism, narrow minded fool, is unaware of the adage that “Hard cases make bad law”. Perhaps he should get out into the real world, away from the fantasy land of football and politics which consumes what passes for his mind.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
July 3, 2022 11:53 am

Gabor says:
July 3, 2022 at 2:42 am
Nelson_Kidd-Players says:
July 3, 2022 at 12:15 am

A few months ago I found that happening for the first time and switched to viewing Twitter feeds (such as the delightful Rita Panahi‘s) in a private browser tab. It appears to have no restrictions for a non-logged-in viewer. It worked as of this afternoon but may not work forever.

Not working for me, after a few scrolls down the message appears.
Tried both private and open browsers, VPN, and without, no luck.
Doesn’t matter not going to join.

Hmm. Variation in milage. I do get the signup/login pop-up as I scroll but can then just clear it and continue. Seems to work for me across various browsers and devices. Not sure what other variables there may be lurking beneath the surface.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 3, 2022 11:53 am

Facts and the American media make strange bedfellows.
Anything to do with the abortion issue from liberal media must be questioned for accuracy.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:54 am

She had to leave the state to get an abortion, Dot. That is fact.

You cannot prove that was necessary (you in fact refuse to “verify” your assertion that Ohio medical practice forbids what the state legislation explicitly allows) or that it even happened.

It is not a fact at all.

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 11:55 am

The abortion practitioner Dr Bernard is the source of the story.
Who refused the abortion in Ohio?

It is not surprising at all that the unnamed “child abuse doctor in Ohio” didn’t want to put the child through a long and costly process which may have involved the courts and dragged out for months. She needed the abortion now to minimise the damage.

The practicalities of such a situation do not allow for thumb-sucking speculation. You get the thing done.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 3, 2022 11:55 am

Why do you suppose so many truckdrivers [not a “crappy” job] are Sikhs from the Jat caste?

Well, that’s the end of this thread.

John Sheldrick
July 3, 2022 11:56 am

areffsays:
July 3, 2022 at 10:48 am
Lizzie, just released from the paywall:

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2022/07-08/the-madness-of-net-zero/

Just read the Article and it’s very good IMHO. Should be required reading by all ‘Pollies’ here especially by Piss Ant Adam Bandt and his ‘Green’ cronies. Let alone ‘Elbow’ and Turtle Head Bowen. Hopefully, they can all read.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 11:56 am

The practicalities of such a situation do not allow for thumb-sucking speculation. You get the thing done.

It is legally allowed (quoted from the legislation) in Ohio, stop bullshitting us with a made up medical board rule you pulled out of your arse.

bespoke
bespoke
July 3, 2022 11:57 am

Monty

Do you believe abortion OK under all circumstances?

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 11:59 am

It is legally allowed (quoted from the legislation) in Ohio

In a practical sense for this case, it was not.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 3, 2022 11:59 am

monty-fa

The price of everything is going up in Western countries, including labour, because there isn’t a supply of immigrants to do the low-paid crappy jobs that help run the economy.

The people who would previously have done those jobs are now encouraged to get useless “degrees” in social “science”, gender studies, J’ism and basket weaving. Because they become essentially unemployable, they they become public servants who push for more immigrants to do the jobs they should be doing.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2022 12:00 pm

In a practical sense for this case, it was not.

Bullshit. Pure, unadulterated, bullshit.

cohenite
July 3, 2022 12:01 pm

Because they are controlled by Republicans who hate women.

Sure, and demorats want to make women disappear all together:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biden-supreme-court-woman-ketanji-brown-jackson-alveda-king

cohenite
July 3, 2022 12:01 pm

17.53 minutes of the latest Week in Culture. I could only get to 5 minutes:

https://rumble.com/v18qh2i-this-week-in-culture-101.html

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 3, 2022 12:03 pm

Six weeks is the earliest date the Pregnancy Test shows a Positive, so practically, Ohio’s new Law outlaws Abortion.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 3, 2022 12:03 pm

m0ntysays:
July 3, 2022 at 11:34 am
I would expect that a ten year old giving birth would fit this description.

Evidently it did not, otherwise she would have had the abortion in Ohio instead of Indiana.

Or, m0nty-fa, you could consider that someone, maybe, possibly, is (like you) trying to make political capital out of this matter?

m0nty
m0nty
July 3, 2022 12:03 pm

You can bold your text Dot, but you’re just blustering. The 10-year-old rape victim had to travel out of Ohio to get an abortion, due to laws put in place by Republicans which did not make exceptions for her situation. She was lucky that she had that opportunity. Others won’t be so fortunate.

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