Open Thread – Weekend 9 July 2022


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Roger
Roger
July 11, 2022 5:07 pm

I don’t usually pay much attention to the opinions of pop stars – they’re generally even stupider than actors – but it was reported here on the weekend that singer Macy Gray had taken a stand for biological womanhood on Piers Morgans TV show, as indeed she had.

Seems that less than 48 hours later she was on TV retracting that and saying that being a woman was all about “vibe”.

One wonders what she was threatened with in the meantime?

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2022 5:07 pm

On the terrible, fucking awful videos I’ve seen of Hunter today…

It is either true and/or the DNC have spent a LOT of time putting those doctored videos and pictures together.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 11, 2022 5:09 pm

PS, even if the whole thing goes according to plan they will never step foot in the NT.
Not if they can help it that is.

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2022 5:10 pm

Thanks for posting that Roger! Enjoyed it!

I had a clip saved in YouTube some time ago, and I can’t recall who it was, but they were asked about gay marriage or some other play thing of the day and the actor/singer said “Why are you asking me, I’m just a singer?”

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2022 5:11 pm

HBB

Quite possibly. It would make an interesting term of reference for a future Royal Commission into VicPlod at some stage.

Nah, not a hope. The Main Slime Media are only interested in police corruption under Coalition governments.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 11, 2022 5:13 pm

KD, you should move the hot dog stand next door to the solar farm once construction gets going.
It’s part of the Cannon-Brookes universe so you can charge 20 bucks a dog.

Frank
Frank
July 11, 2022 5:15 pm

It is either true and/or the DNC have spent a LOT of time putting those doctored videos and pictures together.

I like to think that Trump has been teaching himself photoshop now that he has some spare time.

Winston Smith
July 11, 2022 5:16 pm

Bespoke:

Too often people feel that whoever is elected, the answer is more government. By promising too much and trying to solve every problem, politicians don’t reassure and inspire, they disappoint and drive disillusion. More taxes. More rules and regulations. And ever cheaper borrowing to keep government afloat no matter the cost to savers or the wider economy.

There was an article linked to here just a few days ago that – in essence – people are noticing the loss of control over their lives, and this what is driving the current rates of depression and mental illness.
It seems pretty much on the knocker.

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2022 5:17 pm

LOL Frank!!!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 11, 2022 5:18 pm

Expecting that the rest of Australia revert to the mask mandates is silly and futile but a classic vehicle for the ABC to hitch their wagon.

Interesting that the ABC’s mask obsession has become a media topic:

Arrogant moment ABC host pushes Health Minister to bring back COMPULSORY masks – bizarrely claiming they have a ‘100 per cent success rate’ – and SHAMES him for saying Aussies can make their own decisions

Daily Mail

cohenite
July 11, 2022 5:21 pm

Electric aircraft severely damaged in test flight over Cranfield

I heard rub and tug is thinking of converting his plane to electric.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2022 5:22 pm

Andrew Bolt, in the Hun.

Next to Holland’s most famous painting, Rembrandt’s Night Watch, at the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam is now an apologetic sign: “This painting depicts only white people, as in most 17th century works.”

Excuse me? What else would you expect of a painting commissioned by the militia of Amsterdam in 1642? Does this really need comment?

Last year, the Dutch king even opened an exhibition at the Rijksmuseum of 140 objects highlighting Dutch slavery, including two Rembrandt portraits of rich people who’d owned black slaves.

Now Amsterdam’s city council wants to build a national slavery museum focused only on Dutch guilt.

A friend, plain-speaking politician Annabel Nanninga, asked the council to at least include exhibits on modern slavery such as China’s use of Uighur slave labour to make batteries for electric cars, but was told no. It didn’t fit the anti-white agenda

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
July 11, 2022 5:25 pm

Interesting that the ABC’s mask obsession has become a media topic:

I don’t understand the mask obsession in Aust, a lot of people wear them at home in spring but it’s pollen season then, it’s not uncommon to go outside in the morning and find your car is yellow with cedar pollen.

Why TF is anyone in Oz convinced it will help?

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2022 5:26 pm

I can’t recall who it was, but they were asked about gay marriage or some other play thing of the day and the actor/singer said “Why are you asking me, I’m just a singer?”

Lysander, Anthony Hopkins said just that about actors in an interview.

I was alluding to his words – “actors are generally stupid people.”

bespoke
bespoke
July 11, 2022 5:30 pm

Winston.

Plenty of funny inspirational stuff going on to that deamon at bay. Plus stay clear of enablers, they have there own agenda’s.

rickw
rickw
July 11, 2022 5:33 pm

On Thursday it was revealed that the Biden administration sent nearly one million barrels of oil from the US Strategic Petroleum Reserves, to a Chinese energy company in which President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, had a stake as recently as 2015.

As far as I can tell, yes. I’ve seen less brazen bank robberies.

bespoke
bespoke
July 11, 2022 5:34 pm

to keep that deamon at bay…

johanna
johanna
July 11, 2022 5:35 pm

The ins and outs of the vegetable market are complex and machievellian. Not for amateurs.

But, the bottom line is, there were plenty of fruit and veg at Coles today, some dear, some cheap. We are lucky.

Meanwhile, in the EU, politicians are massaging the masses into reducing energy use going into winter. For those who haven’t been to Europe, heating is life or death.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 11, 2022 5:42 pm

Electric aircraft severely damaged in test flight over Cranfield

It isn’t the only one. I was reading about a couple more today. In the Cranfield case they were testing and triggered a protection circuit which apparently was not resettable. Nice one guys.

Electric aircraft are proving to have about as many failure modes as internal combustion ones, just different causes. That’s before we get to batteries catching fire.

johanna
johanna
July 11, 2022 5:43 pm

[Albanese] said more manufacturing can be done in Australia with the development of clean energy.

The CFMEU are licking their chops.

calli
calli
July 11, 2022 5:43 pm

Arrogant moment ABC host pushes Health Minister to bring back COMPULSORY masks

Aaahhhh…Michael Rowland.

The one who called an innocent and embarrassed 16 year old Sandmann “the face of evil” in America. That Michael Rowland.

Grub.

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2022 5:48 pm

The one who called an innocent and embarrassed 16 year old Sandmann “the face of evil” in America. That Michael Rowland.

Mmm…I wonder if Mr. Sandmann’s lawyers are aware of this information?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 11, 2022 5:53 pm

There cant be anything utoward about Bunter hiden, his pedojoe or the strategic oil reserve sales.

neither the ABCcess or the Gruinaid have anything on those stories.

They have much more important stories…

House January 6 committee to focus on Trump’s tweet at extremist group hearing
Former president’s notorious ‘Be there, will be wild!’ tweet was catalyst for violent protests, congress members will argue

The select committee will say at the hearing – led by congressmen Jamie Raskin and Stephanie Murphy – that Trump’s tweet was the catalyst that triggered the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers groups, as well as Stop the Steal activists, to target the certification.

And Trump sent the tweet knowing that for those groups, it amounted to a confirmation that they should put into motion their plans for January 6, the select committee will say, and encouraged thousands of other supporters to also march on the Capitol for a protest.*

*And overthrow the US government.
Without weapons.
Or the backing of any agency of the government.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2022 5:56 pm

The CFMEU are licking their chops.

Yep, CFMEU guy Pat Conroy was in the news yesterday. Apparently he’s a minister now. He’s in Carbon Combet’s old seat.

Climate change is the ‘number one security threat’ in the Pacific (10 Jul)

International Development and Pacific Minister Pat Conroy says climate change is the “number one security threat” in the Pacific region.

He’s either lying or clueless, since the data shows not much happening in the Pacific except the usual la Ninas and el Ninos. Meanwhile the rank and file in his old union are being sacrificed for Gaia.

I admit he happens to be the only pollie ever to turn up at my local shopping centre. Held out his hand to me as I went past and I gave him a withering look and pointedly ignored it. Made my day!

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2022 6:03 pm

And Pat Conroy not only has a Ministership due to his CFMUE background, he’d also have plenty of dirty on Sleazy.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 11, 2022 6:07 pm

The CVs of Liar Ministers get thinner and thinner every year. Lieborals as well.

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2022 6:08 pm

Commonwealth and Public Sector Superannuation Schemes (CSS and PSS) are a current liability of $158.5 billion, equivalent to 7.37 per cent of GDP to the country!

This scham, is a fully indexed pension fund which reverts to spouse upon death. No wonder Quadrant makes the joke that there are 25 yr old PhD students looking to marry a 67 year old!!!

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2022/07/a-gravy-train-on-super-steroids/

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 11, 2022 6:11 pm

Ladies: Hit the wall hard after 20 years of being Chads cumdumpster?

Dont worry, daddy government will inseminate you and tenderly love you through OUR childs younger years while still taking money off Chads/betas to pay for it.

A dilemma for would-be mothers: date to find the right person – or parent solo?
Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett
It’s a tricky situation. The biological clock is ticking, but apps don’t make it easy to find a partner who wants children

….

Afew years ago I went for a drink with a female friend who had been dating for some time,* but hadn’t met anyone in it for the long haul, and she was adamant that she wanted to have children. She felt the ticking of her biological clock acutely, but was frustrated that the men she met acted as though they had all the time in the world.** “I’ve decided that I’m not going to wait around for some man to get his shit together*** and commit to me and the possibility of a family,” she announced, citing the Danish phenomenon of the solomor, or solo mother. “I’ll give it a couple more years, and then I’m getting a sperm donor and going it alone.”****
….
For the first time, in 2020, the Office for National Statistics found that half of women in England and Wales had not had a baby by their 30th birthday, an increase of 32 percentage points in 50 years. That is a radical societal shift, and one that reflects women’s increasing access to education and career opportunities.*****
….
She’s trying to be more open to the fun of dating without too much pressure, while “balancing that with wanting to be upfront at the beginning about what you want so that you don’t waste your time”.******
….
“I like being single, and enjoy dating as a way to connect with new people*******, but I didn’t want my prospects of parenthood to be tied to someone else’s shifting desires – especially to a man who doesn’t have the same biological time pressures and might change his mind when it’s too late for me,” she says. She’s inspired by powerful stories of solo motherhood and says queer kinship has taught us there are many kinds of parental models beyond traditional mother-father ones.********

* Tinder is not “dating”, its a place for 10% of chaps to have 90% of the ladies say yes to a root and for ladies to ignore the other 90% of chaps because they arent worthy…
** For the most part, they do.
*** Somewhere out there an incel is made just from reading that line.
**** Me and the tax and benefits system against the horrible patriarchy
***** And hows that working out for the ladies? Happier, more fulfilled, etc.etc?
****** Reeeeeee!!!! Why wont Chad wife meeee!!!!!!
******* I can still get Chad, I can, just only for one evening a fortnight…
******** I am so damaged by riding the cock carousel and being slapped in the puss by every dick on a spin that my only prospect of pregnancy lies in emulating the bottom feeders and carpet munchers who have traditionally been genetic dead ends.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 6:12 pm

Speedboxsays:

July 11, 2022 at 4:42 pm

Oh come on says:
July 11, 2022 at 1:33 pm
Look at this Carol lady’s photo – she’s standing in what is presumably her back garden, wearing her dressing gown and the full mask and facial screen get-up,

Reading this I think I have another affliction you can add to ADHD etc.
This woman has MIPA – Media Induced Paranoid Agoraphobia.

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2022 6:12 pm

The CVs of Liar Ministers get thinner and thinner every year. Lieborals as well.

High quality people – as Trump would describe them – don’t go into politics anymore.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 6:17 pm

Rogersays:

July 11, 2022 at 5:48 pm

The one who called an innocent and embarrassed 16 year old Sandmann “the face of evil” in America. That Michael Rowland.

Mmm…I wonder if Mr. Sandmann’s lawyers are aware of this information?

Roger.
A couple of people at Dead Cat forwarded on the links to his lawyer.
I think it ended there, unfortunately.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 11, 2022 6:19 pm

Commonwealth and Public Sector Superannuation Schemes (CSS and PSS) are a current liability of $158.5 billion,

Needs to be overhauled.
Never will be though.

areff
areff
July 11, 2022 6:21 pm

Next to Holland’s most famous painting, Rembrandt’s Night Watch, at the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam is now an apologetic sign: “This painting depicts only white people, as in most 17th century works.”

Should read:

“This painting depicts only white people, as in most 17th century works, but that’s OK because the artist was making gentle fun of those same white people, who were very upset when they saw the finished canvas”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2022 6:22 pm

Amazing story.

Yikes. Poor lady.

Would there be any chance that the hospital was run by the Chattering Order of St Beryl? Hopefully there’s been no…odd occurrences in their town. Wouldn’t want reality to resemble fiction, certainly not that particular novel (and TV series).

Winston Smith
July 11, 2022 6:23 pm

Makka:

Seriously? Does anyone believe this rubbish? Marxist Govts in most states plus Canbra that will be regulate , unionize and tax enterprises into bankruptcy – sure investors will be queuing up for that kind of trauma.

Until the Union Mafia is brought to heel, it is of no earthly use even trying to get manufacturing restarted in Australia.

132andBush
132andBush
July 11, 2022 6:23 pm

This woman has MIPA – Media Induced Paranoid Agoraphobia.

Or FITH.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2022 6:23 pm

In too many cases, justice is left undone JOHN FERGUSONFollow @fergusonjw

4 minutes ago July 11, 2022

It’s not that long ago that Victoria Police and maybe even the broader justice system had a well-earned reputation as one of the best in the commonwealth.
Not even the strongest backers of the system in Victoria can ignore the darkness that has infiltrated the force in the past 25 years.
The freeing of Jason Roberts adds another layer of evidence of corner-cutting and poor judgment in the way major cases have been executed.
In 2020, Victoria’s anti-corruption commission found that improper evidentiary and disclosure practices were used by some Victoria Police officers during the Silk-Miller murder investigation.
It found that a number of statements made by important witnesses were never included in the prosecution brief or disclosed in court and months later the Court of Appeal ruled that police misconduct corrupted the fairness of Roberts’ original 2002 trial.

And clearly on Monday, the Supreme Court jury was unimpressed with the way one of the worst acts of violence against officers in Victorian police history was handled.
It is the third conviction to fall in Victoria due to allegations of police misconduct in recent years, with accused getaway driver Faruk Orman and convicted drug trafficker Zlate Cvetanovski freed in the wake of the scandal involving gangland barrister-turned-informer Nicola Gobbo, widely known as Lawyer X.
While a different scenario, the charging of Cardinal George Pell over the cathedral sex abuse charges also attracted condemnation when the High Court freed the former Ballarat priest from jail amid grave questions about the plausibility of the allegations.
It is clear that a grave injustice has been afforded Roberts, who was just 17 at the time the two police were executed.
There is no suggestion that Roberts is a particularly good bloke.
He will face armed robbery charges later this year.
Or that the other man convicted over the murders, prolific killer Bandali Debs, is any good at all.
But it is the way the courts and police systems work that matters most.
One of the key issues Victorian Labor’s critics argue is that for too many years its various governments had been too close to the policing hierarchy.
Or that it sought to extract political gain from providing extra police resources, or that it has stacked its like-minded people in the courts.
Much of these latter claims are probably the stuff of conspiracies.
It’s much more likely that, at times, there has been a lack of leadership and maybe even experience that has fuelled poor decision-making.
In the case of Silk-Miller, never underestimate the emotion surrounding these types of execution murders of serving police.
There would have been enormous pressure on investigators to get a result and to reassure the families and the community that justice was being done.
The irony is that, at least in the case of Roberts, justice wasn’t done.
The case will leave behind bewildered families and friends of the dead and undermine community confidence in a police force that once had a bulletproof reputation.
Not any more.

bespoke
bespoke
July 11, 2022 6:24 pm
Roger
Roger
July 11, 2022 6:24 pm

A couple of people at Dead Cat forwarded on the links to his lawyer.
I think it ended there, unfortunately.

Mr. Rowland should count himself extremely fortunate.

Along with is current employer.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 6:25 pm

Top Endersays:

July 11, 2022 at 4:46 pm

Completely out of Control in Vaucluse

A Vaucluse woman believed she “was under attack” from a bizarre litany of enemies, including Russian spies, x-ray beams and communist assassins, when she removed a series of CCTV cameras from her neighbour’s home, a court heard.

Lizzie, you really have to stop taking St Ruth seriously.

Winston Smith
July 11, 2022 6:27 pm

Wodger:

One wonders what she was threatened with in the meantime?

It will never be known, because people in general will not stand up for themselves when they are threatened.

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2022 6:30 pm

Lots of smoke in Rome!!!

(But unfortunately it’s not white)

Anchor What
Anchor What
July 11, 2022 6:35 pm

How is your own Private Idaho going?
So far only 10 acres.
But adjacent to a village and within 30 mins of a regional center, so not too bad.
Daughters have horses, neighbours have sheep and chooks – we must get some of those as well.

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2022 6:36 pm

It will never be known, because people in general will not stand up for themselves when they are threatened.

I would guess it was effectively the end of her career, Winston.

I gather she’s passed her heyday, so…

Loss of recording contract & loss of bookings.

No doubt she panicked and gave in.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 11, 2022 6:37 pm

Not even the strongest backers of the system in Victoria can ignore the darkness that has infiltrated the force in the past 25 years.

Or 20. Or 15.

The freeing of Jason Roberts adds another layer of evidence of corner-cutting and poor judgment in the way major cases have been executed.

People in that line of work have been said to remark that you can cut some of the corners, some of the time. With low-rent garden variety stuff. As an example, if you have 15 people saying exactly the same thing about how a bloke got into someone else’s window and they saw him pinch a wallet and leave -they might take 12 statements.

Those same people will also say that with homicides, you cut none of the corners none of the time. Sometimes, with a critical witness you might go back six months later or twelve, and ask for the story again to see if it differs. It goes to credibility.

Apparently, Nicole Debs told the Lorimer taskforce blokes Roberts was in the cot with him at the time Silk and Miller were shot. They looked at the evidence at hand, saw two handguns had been used to kill Gary Silk, knew that Roberts and Debs were in the frame for doing noggie shop stickups together, at that time of night, and that Debs was in a car outside such an establishment at that time of night, also knew that Nicole Debs was a scrote and a scrote’s daughter, and the girlfriend of a scrote, AND also put months’ worth of extremely damaging listening device transcripts together, AND knew that Nicole Debs’ story couldn’t be corroborated.

So they didn’t give a lot of weight to what Nicole Debs said, and they (justifiably) thought a jury wouldn’t either. And the first jury didn’t.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 11, 2022 6:43 pm

It’s not that long ago that Victoria Police and maybe even the broader justice system had a well-earned reputation as one of the best in the commonwealth.

Not sure that was ever the case. Better than NSW andQld maybe. Low bar.

Frank
Frank
July 11, 2022 6:44 pm

Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett. Unfortunate looking woman that one, like something goblinesque that is usually only ever seen darting into the shadows when they get caught out in the open by a crack of lightning.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 11, 2022 6:46 pm

II.

But the killer was the doctored statements.

Statements made by younger coppers, made as soon as practicable after the event and reliant on notes they made at the time or immediately after the shooting.

None of the details in those statements, in isolation would have damaged, let alone been fatal, to the prosecution case. However, a bloke gravitating between the Homicide Squad and the Lorimer taskforce by the name of George Buchhorn though he knew best, and that those statements needed a bit of ‘tidying’.

So he got those coppers to make new statements, which were if anything too exact – too much in lockstep with each other. Then he had them backdated and added to the brief – but he never put the first ones in, which was the gigantic, unforgivable cockup.

Second, clarifying statements are said to be commonplace in large investigations as all statements rely on human memory and Fred the plumber doesn’t take written notes of everything significant. A second statement that says ‘Yeah, I made this earlier statement but I want to correct the record because I am now extremely confident the car was blue instead of grey’, or ‘there were five blokes with star pickets and one with a broomstick instead of all with pickets’ doesn’t take anything away from the case.

It can be arguable that it increases the credibility through transparency, if anything.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2022 6:49 pm

Not sure that was ever the case. Better than NSW andQld maybe. Low bar.

Dunno. They captured Ned Kelly, didn’t they?

Winston Smith
July 11, 2022 6:51 pm

Feelthebern:

Needs to be overhauled.
Never will be though.

Reminds me of this pome:

Rocka bye Poli,
In the tax trough,
When the grid blows,
The troughing will stop,
Down will come Poli,
Like a frigging brick.

From “The Golden Book of Winstons Less Inspiring Pomes.”

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
July 11, 2022 6:52 pm

One of the key issues Victorian Labor’s critics argue is that for too many years its various governments had been too close to the policing hierarchy.
Or that it sought to extract political gain from providing extra police resources, or that it has stacked its like-minded people in the courts.
Much of these latter claims are probably the stuff of conspiracies.

One wonders whether that last sentence is pure self-protection. He needn’t have written the previous two.
Apparently in Thailand journalists will often write things like “of course nobody is suggesting that [member of the royal family] was involved in any wrongdoing” and the proles get the message.
Maybe our journos are starting to take a few timid steps towards actually reporting reality.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
July 11, 2022 6:54 pm

Dunno. They captured Ned Kelly, didn’t they?

He wasn’t a Labor politician or trade union official.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 11, 2022 6:55 pm

III.

Ron Iddles was asked to review the job, post-retirement. He did that, found the doctored and/or missing initial statements, which then took him back to Nicole Debs who repeated her story that Roberts wasn’t at the shooting.

And because of Iddles’ Godzilla-esque credibility and standing the case for a retrial grew legs. The prospect of a properly instructed jury recording a finding of guilt, proven beyond a reasonable doubt then became – well, doubtful.

And now Roberts is somewhere in Melbourne drinking VB stubbies. I am NOT saying he’s innocent, because an acquittal doesn’t always mean you’re not guilty.

Never cut those corners. It won’t always be all right on the night. Near enough is nowhere near good enough, and the police responsible for this who knew better can now look over their own shoulders forevermore – because the families of Silk and Miller are not to be trifled with.

The freeing of Jason Roberts adds another layer of evidence of corner-cutting and poor judgment in the way major cases have been executed.

Preach it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 11, 2022 6:58 pm

The difficulty is that justice systems aren’t self correcting. While it is easy to take cheap shots at lawyers they (especially barristers) are the ones in courts, before judges week after week and need to be able to make a living as part of the system.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2022 6:59 pm

They captured Ned Kelly, didn’t they?

The brought Aboriginal Trackers down from Queensland to find Kelly.
Likely they also set fire to the Pub.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 11, 2022 7:03 pm

Some good news. Warner gone for 24, just before tea.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2022 7:08 pm

The cops had a problem in Silk/Miller.
Debs put his hand up for some reason, but Silk and Miller were taken by surprise, indicating a second gunman.
Obviously they couldn’t just produce some guy with massive Gambling/Drug debts that they’d paid off, since he’d have no connection to Debs.
Interesting surname, Eugene V. Debs was a Communist Party candidate for President in 1920, in Federal Prison at the time, he got a Million Votes.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2022 7:10 pm

The Abos lit up the Glenrowan Pub, not the cops.
Though, on second thoughts … ?

shatterzzz
July 11, 2022 7:11 pm

Expecting that the rest of Australia revert to the mask mandates is silly and futile but a classic vehicle for the ABC to hitch their wagon.

Reading our ABC online news I’m starting tothink that they have a compulsory quota number for daily sob stories .. minimum 3 on page 1 .. LOL!

amortiser
amortiser
July 11, 2022 7:12 pm

Rocka bye Poli,
In the tax trough,
When the grid blows,
The troughing will stop,
Down will come Poli,
Like a frigging brick.

Doesn’t quite work, Winston.
How about:

Rocka bye pollie
In the tax trough
When the wind blows
The trough it will rock
When the grid breaks
The troughing will cease
And down will fall pollie
With no one to fleece.

Indolent
Indolent
July 11, 2022 7:12 pm

I would also add that sympathy and support should be extended to those who have overestimated the risk that Covid poses to them, and have taken extreme measures to protect themselves from this risk.

The problem is that it doesn’t protect them and, in fact, can actually be harmful, in particular for people with cancer who cannot afford to have their oxygen intake reduced.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 11, 2022 7:14 pm

brought Aboriginal Trackers down from Queensland to find Kelly.
Likely they also set fire to the Pub.

New exciting evidence.
Aboriginal trackers set fire to the Glenrowan Inn.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 11, 2022 7:16 pm

Add it to stories Uncle Gargooglery told me.

Winston Smith
July 11, 2022 7:16 pm

Timothy Neilson:

He wasn’t a Labor politician or trade union official.

He was a sheet metal wukka, but.
Could have been a Shop Steward, but.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2022 7:16 pm

Yeah, Farmer Gez, they’ll burn ya out if you upset them.

Pro Tip:
Don’t upset the Abos.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2022 7:19 pm

Update on the Emmett Till [Jr] case:
Insane Blacks in North Carolina raiding Nursing Homes in search for 89 year old woman.
Daily Mail

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 7:21 pm

KD.
Another little “tidy up” was getting a copper on the scene to remember that he was told by one of the dying coppers there were two shooters. A statement which was later retracted.
To paraphrase US election commentators, they were “fortifying the result”.
Very, very stupid.
Even a second jury might have used the ballistics and robbery MOs to conclude there were two present. But over-egging the pudding leaves it open to a jury to wonder what else might have been “fortified”.
I get a whiff (with zero inside knowledge) that we may have had competing egos in the Taskforce.
Something which definitely plagued the Ty-Eyre taskforce years earlier.
I actually think the failure to get a conviction on the Tynan-Eyre murders might have played into the addition of a bit of starch to statements in the Silk-Miller case.

Winston Smith
July 11, 2022 7:23 pm

Amortiser:
O.K.
Your version is better – It’s been quite some time since I read the original story.
I shall steal your version without the acknowledgement, because I have a reputation to live down to…

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
July 11, 2022 7:32 pm

I’m watching “A Current Affair” doing a hit piece on convicted paedophile Robert “Hey Dad” Hughes.
They tracked him down in the UK and did a street ambush.
I’m now teetering on the edge of sympathy for him as a result of the aggressive intrusion into his new life post his 8 year jail term. No such analysis of ABC producer and child sex offender Jon Stevens nor ABC presenter Andy Muirhead’s child pornograhy.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2022 7:32 pm

I actually think the failure to get a conviction on the Tynan-Eyre murders might have played into the addition of a bit of starch to statements in the Silk-Miller case.

The problem with that theory is that the Prosecution had a mountain of Evidence in that case, it was just that the Jury didn’t find it credible.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 11, 2022 7:36 pm

The sanitising of the Sri Lankan collapse is beginning:

https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/the-moment-it-all-went-wrong-for-sri-lanka/news-story/d81f11c688dce69c8edb5e06754838f8

I was unaware that Chem fertilisers were banned due too monetary problems. Quite sure it was as a result of SL being encouraged down the organic path by various supranational agencies and Eurotrash. Seems AFP are pedalling a lie with that one… The rest of the article is not much better.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 11, 2022 7:37 pm

I’m watching “A Current Affair” doing a hit piece on convicted paedophile Robert “Hey Dad” Hughes.

CA bread and butter. Lucky he isn’t a dodgy washing machine repairman.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 11, 2022 7:39 pm

Biden’s Mental Decay

Techno Fog

The President of the sole global superpower is confounded by a teleprompter. The Commander in Chief of the most powerful military in the world, with 700+ military spanning the globe and nearly 4,000 nuclear warheads, can barely make it through public appearances.

He wouldn’t pass a driver’s test, unable to distinguish between a pedestrian or a stop sign. But he has his finger on the nuclear trigger.

Just this week he was defeated (yet again) by text on a screen. “End of quote. Repeat the line.” Watch this:

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 11, 2022 7:40 pm

I’m watching “A Current Affair” doing a hit piece on convicted paedophile Robert “Hey Dad” Hughes.

And there was lots of inuendo… He has to report to police within 3 days, let them know if was staying a place with children etc etc,

Razey
Razey
July 11, 2022 7:42 pm

Rockdoctorsays:
July 11, 2022 at 7:36 pm
The sanitising of the Sri Lankan collapse is beginning:

https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/the-moment-it-all-went-wrong-for-sri-lanka/news-story/d81f11c688dce69c8edb5e06754838f8

I was unaware that Chem fertilisers were banned due too monetary problems. Quite sure it was as a result of SL being encouraged down the organic path by various supranational agencies and Eurotrash. Seems AFP are pedalling a lie with that one… The rest of the article is not much better.

I wonder if the Western overlords are shitting their pants.

rosie
rosie
July 11, 2022 7:44 pm

I get the impression organic was a cover for monetary problems.

Rabz
July 11, 2022 7:48 pm

Just this week he was defeated (yet again) by text on a screen. “End of quote. Repeat the line.”

Imagine the preposterous syphilitic geriatric trying to recite some Vogon poetry.

Oh wait, we don’t have to

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2022 7:56 pm

Rogersays:
July 11, 2022 at 6:12 pm
The CVs of Liar Ministers get thinner and thinner every year. Lieborals as well.

High quality people – as Trump would describe them – don’t go into politics anymore.

Look at the pathetic geriatrics in the US Congress, “anymore” takes on a whole new meaning – not in the last 50 years!

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 11, 2022 7:57 pm

CNN will have to stop showing videos that don’t line up with the White House transcript or superimpose “Dramatisation – may not have happened” like Homer and the Babysitter.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2022 8:00 pm

feelthebernsays:
July 11, 2022 at 6:19 pm
Commonwealth and Public Sector Superannuation Schemes (CSS and PSS) are a current liability of $158.5 billion,

Needs to be overhauled.
Never will be though.

Has been, most of this is the remnants of the old schemes.

The political and judicial schemes are where the big money is for individuals, but there are fewer of them, so it is not so obvious. But note the steady progression of Liars members through Parliament, and onto the (albeit modified under Howard) Parliamentary scheme.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 11, 2022 8:02 pm

… grossly overweight pervert …
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wNgJzhoqjNs

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2022 8:11 pm

Ed Casesays:
July 11, 2022 at 7:16 pm
Yeah, Farmer Gez, they’ll burn ya out if you upset them.

Pro Tip:
Don’t upset the Abos.

Is this the heart of Dick Ed’s issues with aborigines? What did you do to piss them off, Dickless?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 8:12 pm

H B Bearsays:
July 11, 2022 at 8:02 pm
… grossly overweight pervert …

Where is m0nster?

rickw
rickw
July 11, 2022 8:17 pm

Seriously? Does anyone believe this rubbish? Marxist Govts in most states plus Canbra that will be regulate , unionize and tax enterprises into bankruptcy – sure investors will be queuing up for that kind of trauma.

Australian Manufacturing Enterprises primarily consist of blokes in sheds doing stuff by themselves.

If they ever get any grandiose ideas about expanding and employing people, they find a que of regulators and unions at taking door ready to take turns to fuck them.

Indolent
Indolent
July 11, 2022 8:18 pm
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 11, 2022 8:30 pm

Rosie fair call on surface, there may have been some convenient savings made during the COVID lockdowns when the tourist dollars evaporated I do grant that. However given the World Bank meddling in 2019 to force climate change programs in SL, I encourage you to have a look at some of the Gobbledygook in that program, especially with the gender politics. Plenty of non for profit stuff singing praises of organics as well and talking up SL.

I just think we haven’t learned from the Vietnam conflict and that these countries need to find their own way to where we are. The world is heading that way just at different rates. Coercing them towards before time just breeds this sort of instability that players like the Chinese capitalise on. As it is SL is now much more dependant on India who won’t let a failed state cause issues on their southern border.

Personally I don’t understand what the hurry is, there seems this zeal to turn the world green overnight. We are a 4bn yo planet has been though worse and it is incredibly arrogant to think we as a piss ant little species can have such a marked and rapid effect on it on such a short Geological scale. Eco fascism seems like an apt term for what is going on at the moment.

Anyway, I’ll get off my soapbox. Gawd can someone turn up the thermostat in NQ, I’m sick of the cold weather. Coldest winter I have experienced in many years and the heaters on again!

rickw
rickw
July 11, 2022 8:31 pm

Seems like The Australian Government are preventing The Aussie Cossack access to a lawyer and preventing visitors. Third world shithole stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtOqjasS6BU

132andBush
132andBush
July 11, 2022 8:32 pm

A hypothetical:

The US is back to Trump era energy production starting tomorrow.

What happens?

rosie
rosie
July 11, 2022 8:33 pm

I think accelerated green insanity might have been in the mix but it was a convenient opportunity to sort money problems.

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2022 8:36 pm

“Personally I don’t understand what the hurry is, there seems this zeal to turn the world green overnight. We are a 4bn yo planet has been though worse and it is incredibly arrogant to think we as a piss ant little species can have such a marked and rapid effect on it on such a short Geological scale. Eco fascism seems like an apt term for what is going on at the moment.”

I’ve never been one for conspiracies but I’m now slowly but surely coming around to them. I’m beginning to believe that it’s the intent of the WEF and UN to destroy western economies and cull populations. Green policies do both very well, they collapse economies and cause mass starvation. Sri Lanka is just the first…but it’s good to see the people fighting back.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Old School Conservative says: July 11, 2022 at 7:32 pm

I’m watching “A Current Affair” doing a hit piece on convicted paedophile Robert “Hey Dad” Hughes….
I’m now teetering on the edge of sympathy for him as a result of the aggressive intrusion into his new life post his 8 year jail term. …

Thanks, just watched that segment online.
A spruiker for a fairground fortune teller couldn’t lay it on as thick as that show did.

I was wishing some fighting age bovver boy relation of his would turn up & deck the “investigative journalist”

Channel 9 – so biased you end up siding with paedophiles & lining u against the station.
Gotta hand it to Channel 9, it takes a fair bit to do that.

Indolent
Indolent
July 11, 2022 8:39 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Rockdoctor says: July 11, 2022 at 7:36 pm

The sanitising of the Sri Lankan collapse is beginning:
I was unaware that Chem fertilisers were banned due too monetary problems. Quite sure it was as a result of SL being encouraged down the organic path by various supranational agencies and Eurotrash. Seems AFP are pedalling a lie with that one… The rest of the article is not much better.

I’ve the same impression.
Some of the blokes & sheilas I work with have relatives who work on, or even own/operate large “estates” in Sri Lanka.

For the past two years they’ve bemoaned the SL govt & the “green stupidity” of banning fertiliser.
This new angle would be a shock & surprise to them.
They’ve never mentioned, and would be shocked/stunned into silence, at any suggestion of it being driven by government money troubles, foreign exchange issues, or anything else.

Razey
Razey
July 11, 2022 8:42 pm

I just think we haven’t learned from the Vietnam conflict and that these countries need to find their own way to where we are.

Had a bit of chuckle over this one.

‘to where we are’? A woke totalitarian shithole?

No thanks.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 8:45 pm

Channel 9 – so biased you end up siding with paedophiles & lining up against the station.

Err, say what?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 11, 2022 8:46 pm

Good story at Gateway Pundit. Cost him over $1m but in a week got his money back. Similar to the journalists who get fired and then set up on Substack and can earn good money through subscriptions. I am guessing he will be on Rogan very soon and that will double his ticket sales overnight.

EPIC: Comedian Refuses Woke Streaming Service’s Demands to Censor Jokes, Spends “Life Savings” to Buy His Own Comedy Special Back – “Let’s Change the Game”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 8:54 pm

Personally I don’t understand what the hurry is, there seems this zeal to turn the world green overnight. We are a 4bn yo planet has been though worse …

Funny thing.
I was half-watching a doco on SBS the other night about the geological history of France.
It had various CGI dramatisations of the ebb and flow of sea levels by hundreds of metres over millennia.
At a time when the human population of the planet probably numbered in the hundreds of thousands or a few million, maybe burning miniscule quantities of wood.
I wonder if just one regular SBS viewer had a “Wait a minute …” moment.

local oaf
July 11, 2022 9:02 pm

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Our tax dollars hard at work no doubt!

JC
JC
July 11, 2022 9:09 pm

Channel 9 – so biased you end up siding with paedophiles & lining u against the station.
Gotta hand it to Channel 9, it takes a fair bit to do that.

Did they bring up Prince Andrew, Drills? You were okay with Prince Andrew supposedly having sex with barely legals etc, consequently it’s not shocking to see where you’re veering now. I’m really trying to be objective here.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Channel 9 – so biased you end up siding with paedophiles & lining up against the station.

Err, say what?

Watch the clip Sancho.
The test is: Which one do you most want to see flattened on air, the paroled offender, or the Channel 9 talking head?

It takes quite a bit of journalistic slimy-ness to even have viewers asking themselves that question.
Channel Nine, they’d make King’s Cross strip joint spruikers seem respectable by comparison.

Frank
Frank
July 11, 2022 9:10 pm

I wonder if just one regular SBS viewer had a “Wait a minute …” moment.

SBS used to run an advert for SBS where a young man in cheap business attire was walking down the street while the scene cut to various exotic locations, cultures and times. The end of the advert was the guy talking to himself about how he had lead a rich life. The epitome of a young urban bugman thinking that watching ethnic TV made him worldly and sophisticated. Extrapolating from that to the audience that it was meant to flatter one can draw some conclusions about what the regular SBS viewer is likely to conclude.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 9:11 pm

Or, as he is known around the dining table at Windsor Castle, “Prince Who?”

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I see my broken is here, coming up with lots of stuff.
But not coming up with serious money for a bet.
(never will – hasn’t the balls – all mouth)

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 11, 2022 9:12 pm

Just been reading about the Marxist occupation of Jefferson’s house in pj media. They really are pulling out all stops to destroy the US. Very much like Russia a century ago.

JC
JC
July 11, 2022 9:13 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
July 11, 2022 at 8:45 pm

Channel 9 – so biased you end up siding with paedophiles & lining up against the station.

Err, say what?

Yea. Incredible huh?

JC
JC
July 11, 2022 9:16 pm

Drills
We’ve been through that phony bet of yours and it’s not going to cause us to digress.

I must say that your comment is very disturbing and more so when looked at in relation to your other disturbing comment about Prince Andrew and barely legal girls.

Also, you really, really need to explain how anyone would side with pedos, you mentally deranged individual.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 9:20 pm

Watch the clip Sancho.
The test is: Which one do you most want to see flattened on air, the paroled offender, or the Channel 9 talking head?

I didn’t watch it.
And I can’t be bothered.
But, if I did, I doubt I would be developing any sympathetic feelings towards a convicted pedo.
He’s convicted.
He’s unrepentant.
He’s paroled.
Someone confronts him with his grubby past in public.
Big deal.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The humiliation of not being able to back a bet is something you’ll never overcome.
You’re broken.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Sancho Panzer says: July 11, 2022 at 9:20 pm

Watch the clip Sancho.

I didn’t watch it.
And I can’t be bothered.
But, if I did, I doubt I would be developing

What a stupid comment.

Luzu
Luzu
July 11, 2022 9:23 pm

I want to introduce a new term into the vernacular: Birth privilege.

If those of us who are born (involuntarily) of a paler hue can be held to be utterly uncomprehending of what it means not to be white, then those of us already born must be similarly blind to what it means to have never been born. We are unable to even imagine such an existence and what it entails and are therefore guilty of not identifying with the suffering of the “other”. We are structural oppressors.

We need to identify with those who do not enjoy birth privilege and ensure that whatever legal, cultural and gendered norms continue this oppression are overturned by whatever means necessary.

ULM!

Unborn Lives Matter!

Did I hit the right notes? Are we now going to treat the unborn with respect instead of disdain?

I hate the casual nature with which those whose feet already have a place on this earth deny that to so many others.

JC
JC
July 11, 2022 9:23 pm

Channel 9 – so biased you end up siding with paedophiles

JC
JC
July 11, 2022 9:24 pm

One of the saddest comments posted, and very close to the Prince Andrew debacle.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 9:25 pm

What crime was committed by the Channel Nein reporter?
What defamation was uttered during the report?

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2022 9:25 pm

“He’s convicted.
He’s unrepentant.
He’s paroled.”

Correct….Hughes has never repented and never apologised.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he thinks of himself as the victim.

Razey
Razey
July 11, 2022 9:31 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
July 11, 2022 at 9:25 pm
“He’s convicted.

Like George Pell?

JC
JC
July 11, 2022 9:33 pm

Razey says:
July 11, 2022 at 9:31 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
July 11, 2022 at 9:25 pm
“He’s convicted.

Like George Pell?

Pell was innocent. 7/0 champ.

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2022 9:35 pm

“Like George Pell?”

No similarities to the Pell case whatsoever.

Razey
Razey
July 11, 2022 9:35 pm

JCsays:
July 11, 2022 at 9:33 pm
Razey says:
July 11, 2022 at 9:31 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
July 11, 2022 at 9:25 pm
“He’s convicted.

Like George Pell?

Pell was innocent. 7/0 champ.

Indeed.

What ever the Lame Stream Media says, I automatically believe the opposite, or some government funded plot is afoot.

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2022 9:36 pm

George Pell was and is an innocent man.

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2022 9:37 pm

“What ever the Lame Stream Media says, I automatically believe the opposite, or some government funded plot is afoot.”

So you think Robert Hughes is innocent?

.

Razey
Razey
July 11, 2022 9:41 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
July 11, 2022 at 9:37 pm
“What ever the Lame Stream Media says, I automatically believe the opposite, or some government funded plot is afoot.”

So you think Robert Hughes is innocent?

Who knows. Plenty of miscarriages of justice with the piece of shit government overlords.

Most scumbag, group think, Australians thought Lindy Chamberlain was guilty. The precursor to the modern day vaxtard.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 9:42 pm

Correct….Hughes has never repented and never apologised.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he thinks of himself as the victim.

Yes.
This is no #metoo stitch up. There were several witnesses who corroborated the evidence of each other without any prompting or detailed knowledge of the other witnesses accusations.
The problem is, it serms he doesn’t think it is a crime, or even harmful.
His wife is very supportive and defensive, to the point of denial.
Despite being highly recognisable here in Straya, he would enjoy total anonymity in the UK.
This adds up to him being the most dangerous type of pedo.
Not someone deserving of my sympathy just because a reporter got in his face and reminded him of his grubby past.
Hopefully, a few locals passing by asked what it was all about.

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2022 9:42 pm

“Who knows. Plenty of miscarriages of justice with the piece of shit government overlords.

Most scumbag, group think, Australians thought Lindy Chamberlain was guilty. The precursor to the modern day vaxtard.”

Did you ever move to Japan?

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2022 9:45 pm

“Most scumbag, group think, Australians thought Lindy Chamberlain was guilty. The precursor to the modern day vaxtard.”

Most Australians thought Ivan Milat was guilty. And they were right, he was guilty, just like Robert Hughes is guilty.

Razey
Razey
July 11, 2022 9:47 pm

So most of you ‘justice leaguers’ here would probably believe Aussie Cossak belongs in the slammer because he named a pedo?

There’s justice for you!

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 11, 2022 9:48 pm

Aussie at the pub around the corner of St Andrews nails it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CcRZzFBMJY

Turns out it’s one of the best up & coming golfers in oz.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 9:53 pm

The Pell case had one witness, whose testimony was proved to not only not meet the “beyond reasonable doubt” test, but the High Court found (Seven-Zip) that the events claimed could not possibly have happened. In a last desparate roll of the dice, the Victorian DPP asked the High Court to change the timelines already admitted in two trials and an appeal.
In the Hughes trial there were five victims and numerous other witnesses who all testified to his fiddling.
Ridiculous assertion.
One flimsy case is overturned on appeal, therefore a watertight case must also be invalid.
By the way, how are things in Japan, Razey?

JC
JC
July 11, 2022 9:56 pm

Razey

I don’t know why you’re thrashing around like a spastic.

George Pell was found innocent.
Lindy Chamberlain was eventually exonerated.

I don’t know enough about the Cossack’s issue with the coppers. Having said that I find his motivation suspect and he appears to be a bit of an attention whore.

The pedo was guilty and there’s never been an appeal to claim innocence.

What’s your problem?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 9:56 pm

Crikey, the “Hey, Dad!” fan-club are out in force tonight.
Not sure how or why they can try to evoke sympathy for that grub Hughes.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 11, 2022 10:03 pm

Hughes was in his 50’s when tried.
There would have been 100’s of victims.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 10:05 pm

Actually JC, Hughes has been to the appeal well twice.

Hughes appealed to the Court of Criminal Appeal, but was rejected on 21 December 2015. …
On 18 January 2016, Hughes lodged an appeal with the High Court of Australia, and has since lost his High Court challenge to child sex convictions.

The highest court in the land quashed Pell’s conviction, and upheld Hughes’ multiple convictions.
Game, set, match.

rickw
rickw
July 11, 2022 10:08 pm

Interesting how our corrupt and useless police and institutions are able to swing into immediate and effective action when the right target happens along:

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2022/july/evangelist-torben-sondergaard-came-to-us-for-asylum-now-hes-been-arrested-accused-of-gun-smuggling

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 11, 2022 10:17 pm

Not sure how or why they can try to evoke sympathy for that grub Hughes.

Like it or not people are entitled to get on with their lives at the completion of any punishment imposed, particularly if they have removed themselves half way around the world. Not to be harassed by some tabloid TV j’ismist for ratings and their brain dead audience. Not sure if any of this could be thought of as “sympathy”.

rickw
rickw
July 11, 2022 10:19 pm

A day earlier a top regional police official acknowledged possible security lapses that allowed the attacker to get so close and fire a bullet at the still-influential former Japanese leader.

As one US commentator put it: In the land without guns, a lead gun controller gets shot at with a gun, that looks like a high school science project heading for a “C”, and then everyone just stands there until killer a few moments later, when the killer manages to get off a fatal second shot.

Of course Potatus managed to sing the praises of strict Japanese gun control.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 10:21 pm

feelthebernsays:

July 11, 2022 at 10:03 pm

Hughes was in his 50’s when tried.
There would have been 100’s of victims.

Probably wrong to speculate.
But here goes.
With convictions for offences against five children, the odds of them being the only ones are vanishingly small.
And, as I say, the independent corroboration makes this a 100% watertight conviction.
Before any of the usual suspects arrives with the “opportunistic ambulance chaser” argument, the mother of one of the victims went to the police in 1988.
That is some long game she was playing if she was a compensation gold digger.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 10:27 pm

Bear just now.

Not sure if any of this could be thought of as “sympathy”.

Well, let’s go back to the original comment from Sal.

Channel 9 – so biased you end up siding with paedophiles & lining up against the station.

You can take simultaneously take a dim view of Nein’s tactics and still consider Hughes pond-scum.
Like Wussia vs Ukraine.
I don’t have to choose a side.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
July 11, 2022 10:32 pm

Saw a bit of the run in on tv with the old Pommie pedo.

Distasteful tv, but given his past not one fuck given.
Only thing I took away from it was he looked frail enough notto be able to bother the hole in a polo mint let alone a kid.
Good.
He can swap notes with Johnny Rottens mate while they are on parallel rotisseries in the warm place.

Dot
Dot
July 11, 2022 10:34 pm

I’ve decided that I’m not going to wait around for some man to get his shit together

LOL

I can marry your cute 20 year old niece later on.

I’m a man. It’s all good. I can father children until the day I drop dead at 120.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2022 10:35 pm

Unions press Anthony Albanese to weaken power of bosses

Ewin Hannan
Workplace Editor
Greg Brown
National Correspondent
22 minutes ago July 11, 2022
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Unions are pressing Anthony Albanese to use a jobs and skills summit as a springboard to urgently legislate major changes to the nation’s enterprise bargaining laws, including removing the ability of employers to unilaterally apply to terminate workplace agreements.

ACTU secretary Sally McManus said the federal government, unions and employers “have to think big” and use the summit in September to strive for agreement on changes to bargaining ahead of Labor introducing an industrial relations bill into parliament before the end of the year.

“It’s this generation’s responsibility to build a system that works for now,” Ms McManus told The Australian. “We have effectively still got a system that’s 30 years old, and we have got to accept that it’s not working.”

Employers and unions believe reinvigorating the enterprise bargaining system will drive higher wages and productivity growth. Just 14 per cent of all employees are covered by a current enterprise agreement, while an additional 23 per cent are likely to be on expired agreements.

Ms McManus said changes to the Fair Work Act’s “better off overall test” sought by employers were “essentially small-minded tinkering”, while the ability of companies to unilaterally apply to scrap agreements “has got to be fixed”.

“It’s been a big wet blanket on bargaining right around the country for a long period of time and just incredibly unfair for the workers’ side of bargaining,” she said.

“When you leave a whole set of laws for a whole decade or longer and you make no changes, and you have employers spending all their time and all their resources on lawyers working out how to poke holes in it, you have a law with holes all over it and it’s been used and abused.

“In order to fix bargaining, there has to be more than tinkering and this needs to be a matter of urgency. We need to get this job done and the sooner we can get it in parliament the better.”

The ACTU push came as a major split emerged within the Coalition on the summit, with Acting Opposition Leader Sussan Ley calling for the event to be cancelled while opposition Treasury spokesman Angus Taylor asked for a seat at the table.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 11, 2022 10:37 pm

Breaking news, John of Mel isn’t Elon Musk.
Dot is Elon Musk.
All hail Dot.

Dot
Dot
July 11, 2022 10:37 pm

Distasteful tv, but given his past not one fuck given.

Given how no one under the age of 40 willingly watches FTA, why are they trying this slow news week stuff?

A Current Affair?

Now, that’s a joke. An old conviction for a historical crime. Sentence served, living out his days in obscurity.

The Victorian Police apologising to Avi Yemeni is probably a better example of current affairs.

Dot
Dot
July 11, 2022 10:39 pm

the mother of one of the victims went to the police in 1988

You have to wonder how many criminals went on their business in NSW because the police were so corrupt.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 11, 2022 10:42 pm

test

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
July 11, 2022 10:44 pm

Dot.

At a rough guess how many rock bands should be in jail for underage degeneracy and why isn’t 100%.

I knew my Dot bait roastiestory would flush him out.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 11, 2022 10:45 pm

Well, let’s go back to the original comment from Sal.

You mean you can scroll UP. Why wasn’t I told?

Dot
Dot
July 11, 2022 10:47 pm

WE should have paid more attention.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/03/14/2022-05471/ensuring-responsible-development-of-digital-assets

Ensuring Responsible Development of Digital Assets
A Presidential Document by the Executive Office of the President on 14 March 2022.

Executive Order 14067 of March 9, 2022

Ensuring Responsible Development of Digital Assets

It’s a word salad, so he’s more or less asking for a report. He’s threatening to try to shut it all down in the name of national security.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 11, 2022 10:48 pm

Mr. Panzer, at 7.21:

To paraphrase US election commentators, they were “fortifying the result”.
Very, very stupid.

Extremely and unnecessarily stupid.

I actually think the failure to get a conviction on the Tynan-Eyre murders might have played into the addition of a bit of starch to statements in the Silk-Miller case.

Undoubtedly.

Dot
Dot
July 11, 2022 10:49 pm

I knew my Dot bait roastiestory would flush him out.

Twenty-five (feet). Three tons of him.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 10:49 pm

You have to wonder how many criminals went on their business in NSW because the police were so corrupt.

I know Elon.
The detective involved told the mother he had been trying to nail Hughes but every time he got close “someone covered for him”.
Not that the enquiry petered out.
That someone ran interference.
In those days it was probably Channel Seven (who were broadcasting the “Hey Dad!” series).

Indolent
Indolent
July 11, 2022 10:50 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 10:52 pm

You mean you can scroll UP.

Only when it suits.

Why wasn’t I told?

Because it enables me to invent quotes what never were on the rare occasions that my argument is getting low on battery.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 11, 2022 10:55 pm

The odd thing about the Pell case is why didn’t the innocent cardinal sue the Victorian government.

Not pursuing them for damages just encourages other similar types of witch hunting.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 10:56 pm

KD at 10:48.
The other thing is, if the “statement alignment and fortification” had come to light during the original trial, it might have resulted in a jury cutting Roberts and Debs loose.
A dangerous game.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 11, 2022 10:57 pm

Pro Tip:
Don’t upset the Abos.

And:

Is this the heart of Dick Ed’s issues with aborigines? What did you do to piss them off, Dickless?

Burn their house down?

No. Wait.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 11:00 pm

TE.
Maybe he was an 80 year old man just out of jail for an offence which didn’t happen and was too worn down.
He would also have been acutely aware that his benefactor had already committed massive sums to his criminal defence and maybe didn’t want to impose further.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 11, 2022 11:04 pm

True Sancho. But it still allows people like Milligan to walk around looking smug.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 11:06 pm

dover0beachsays:

July 11, 2022 at 10:53 pm

Echo ?
@TheEcho13
·
22h
this was the moment Bill Gates decided to kill everyone on earth

Plausible.

He doesn’t have to do anything.
Just keep releasing versions of Windows and we will all lose the will to live.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2022 11:08 pm

But it still allows people like Milligan to walk around looking smug.

The smugness that says, “So sue me. I got ABC indemnity”.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
July 11, 2022 11:21 pm

I originally wrote this:
I’m watching “A Current Affair” doing a hit piece on convicted paedophile Robert “Hey Dad” Hughes.
They tracked him down in the UK and did a street ambush.
I’m now teetering on the edge of sympathy for him as a result of the aggressive intrusion into his new life post his 8 year jail term. No such analysis of ABC producer and child sex offender Jon Stevens nor ABC presenter Andy Muirhead’s child pornograhy.

Clearly a criticism of the “gotcha” tactics of ACA and their selective targeting.
Or as Iowahawk said, Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.

I think Sancho said it best – You can take simultaneously take a dim view of Nein’s tactics and still consider Hughes pond-scum..
H B Bear at 10.17 is spot on too.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
July 11, 2022 11:34 pm

They tracked him down in the UK and did a street ambush.

Baddy vs baddy.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

DrBeauGan says: July 11, 2022 at 11:34 pm

They tracked him down in the UK and did a street ambush.

Baddy vs baddy.

They were quite careful to not alarm any passersby, and noticeably kept their volume down. It seemed as if they deliberately chose a time & space when there was quite a gap between him & any pommy public.
There will have been a reason for that.

They were attempting to goad him into speaking. This will have been done in the full knowledge that his parole conditions will prohibit him from any public comment, and from speaking to any news media.

Grubs.

As OSC said, we have yet to see their similar public ambushes of the ABC’s Jon Stevens or Andy Muirhead.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 11, 2022 11:52 pm

Interesting that the ABC’s mask obsession has become a media topic

It really is curious. There is clearly an influential individual or group within the ABC power structure that is extremely and peculiarly focused on re-implementing mask mandates. It is their boutique issue, and they are able to ensure the ABC routinely runs propaganda pieces for mandating mask wearing, even though this is so far off the national agenda that even the ABC’s allies in the ALP slap it down over this. Something weird is happening at the ‘national broadcaster’.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Just checked.
The “investigative journalist” who junketed to Wimbledon… er… hunted down a doddering old kiddy-fiddler whose domicile & habits are already known registered with police, is not the same as the one who bothered Aussie Cossack in the street.

(I have to commend Cossack for not dropping the bastard – though Cossack handled the matter differently to how I would recommend, he did maintain good humour & refrain from being goaded)

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
July 11, 2022 11:56 pm

Not the cricket headlines I expected today after winning the first test:

Aussies annihilated: Spinner stuns with 12-for on debut as Sri Lanka romp to innings win

Series now tied 1-1.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Something weird is happening at the ‘national broadcaster’.

Those wankers actually believe it is they, who set the national agenda.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 12, 2022 1:14 am

There is clearly an influential individual or group within the ABC power structure that is extremely and peculiarly focused on re-implementing mask mandates.

This is an organisation that has had an entire broadcasting studio rebuilt for a “cancer cluster”. Hard to think they are not doing it for shits and giggles. Remember they are basically Cth public servants, the same people who gave us kangaroo paw during the carpal tunnel syndrome as everybody had to use a computer.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 12, 2022 1:16 am

Not the cricket headlines I expected today after winning the first test:

That is why you would make a lousy Indian bookmaker.

rosie
rosie
July 12, 2022 3:44 am
Tom
Tom
July 12, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
July 12, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
July 12, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
July 12, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
July 12, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
July 12, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
July 12, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
July 12, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
July 12, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
July 12, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
July 12, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
July 12, 2022 4:14 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
July 12, 2022 4:16 am

Lisa Benson outstanding.
Thanks Tom.

win
win
July 12, 2022 4:36 am

We lost our little girl last night .

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
July 12, 2022 5:07 am

Dear win, so sorry to hear that sad news.

bespoke
bespoke
July 12, 2022 5:32 am

We lost our little girl last night .

Condolences.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 12, 2022 5:33 am

Bugger win.
Condolences

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 12, 2022 5:49 am

Win,
That is terrible news. Condolences from Mrs D and I.

min
min
July 12, 2022 6:29 am

Win, condolences for your loss .

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 12, 2022 6:38 am

Win, my condolences to you and your family.

Real Deal
Real Deal
July 12, 2022 6:50 am

Dreadful news, Win. Sincere condolences.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 12, 2022 6:50 am

Likewise win. A shit state of affairs.

Condolences.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 12, 2022 7:04 am

Serial sniveller and VP of the AMA Dr Chris Moy on the teev, advocating the return of mask wearing for all because ‘it’s a public health issue’.

He was asked if it was okay if just people who thought they were at risk of infection wore them. ‘No, because you don’t know who you’re standing next to.’ He was not only wearing an immaculate light pastel blue jumper, but also strangely maskless.

Dr Chris Moy is the sort of bloke I would like to go fishing with, on a boat way out in the bay. Couple of beers. A covered-up Early Kooka sitting on the deck. Rope and coathanger. No problems.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 12, 2022 7:05 am

Ooooh. That Moy clip just reappeared.

There’s a piano in the background with a Baby Yoda on it. I knew that bloke had problems.

Dot
Dot
July 12, 2022 7:06 am

COVID19 has been in the west possibly since March 2019.

A return to masks, is just whackadoodle cultism.

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