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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 1:56 pm

https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/how-to-name-aboriginal-people

“First Nations?” Seriously? “Oldest living culture?” Seriously?

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 5, 2022 2:00 pm

Senator Thorpe is more stupid than she knows.

1) her idiocy in the Senate swearing-in process will do more to drive people away from “the voice” than she realises, and

2) her rallying cry for some sort of inquiry into violence against Aboriginal women will merely show that 95% of it comes from Aboriginal males.

Probably not surprising. Wiki tells us:

…back to Fitzroy High for Year 9, but left soon afterwards, at the age of 14.

– Her first job was working with her uncle Robbie Thorpe, at the Koori Information Centre at 120 Gertrude Street, Fitzroy, which at that time was “a hub of Black political activity”

– She holds a Diploma of Community Development from Swinburne University of Technology, a graduate certificate in public sector management, and a Certificate IV Indigenous Leadership.

– She became a single mother at the age of 17.

– In 2013, Thorpe was declared bankrupt, with over A$700,000 in debts, including monies owed to Indigenous Business Australia, and A$55,000 owed to the Australian Taxation Office. She said that her bankruptcy resulted from domestic violence.

Frank
Frank
August 5, 2022 2:02 pm

It’s sad because sociology can actually be a demanding and insightful discipline.

And then came the queer theorists, fat studies advocates and radical cyber feminists.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 2:04 pm

Jacqui Lambie brought to tears speaking at Veterans Inquiry

theaustralian.com.au02:14
Senator Lambie demands a Royal Commission into veteran suicide

By Madeleine Achenza
NCA NewsWire
An hour ago August 5, 2022

WARNING: This story discusses suicide, suicidal behaviours and drug use.

Tasmanian Senator Jacqui Lambie broke down in tears during her opening address to the veterans inquiry as she thanked her family for getting her through “10 years of hell”.

Lambie joined the Australian Army in 1989 as an 18-year-old and served for a decade before she was medically discharged due to chronic back pain.

“I want to thank my family for the 10 years of hell they had to go through,” she told the Commission, which she was instrumental in bringing to fruition.

“Watching their daughter go from being someone who was very fit with a military career, reduced to basically just an empty human being.”

The senator began to choke up as thanked her two sons and was overcome with tears when she spoke of her youngest son, Dylan Milverton.

“I know you’ve paid a very, very heavy price for what you had to do to care for me over that period of time and I know you are stilling paying the price of that,” she said.

Lambie has been open about her 28-year-old son Dylan Milverton’s struggle with ice addiction and eventual rehabilitation.

The leader of the Jacqui Lambie Network answered questions on her 10 years of service in the armed forces and her treatment by the Department of Veterans Affairs which led her to a suicide attempt.

“I had completely given up on my life,” she said.

“Even for the sake of my sons, because I believed that I was doing them more damage than good.”

After she attempted to take her own life, Lambie said that she was finally taken seriously by Veterans Affairs.

“For me, trying to take my own life meant that they finally started to give me a helping hand.”

It was then that she began receiving psychiatric care for two years and was in and out of a health clinic.

During questioning, Lambie did express her gratitude to the army for its support, particularly when she found out that she was 22 weeks’ pregnant during her initial training.

“It was a first for the army … they wanted me to discharge immediately,” she recalled.

“I did not want to end up back in public housing with a child.”

The military allowed her to move forward with a driving course at the Army School of Transport and she was given leave at 28 weeks.

Lambie said when she returned to work after giving birth to her second child and was suffering from post-partum depression, she was involved in an assault.

She said she “should have been thrown out of the military” and instead was sent home to Tasmania on compassionate leave for 20 months.

Lambie was eventually medically discharged after 10 years and then began another 10 year battle with the Department of Veterans Affairs to receive medical treatment for chronic pain and depression.

“It was starting to hit me that whatever was wrong with me was not going away,” she said.

“Then the depressions set in within that first 12 months of being out.”

She said she discovered in a doctor’s report that the Commonwealth Rehabilitation Service and Veterans Affairs had used surveillance to test whether her claims for compensation were valid.

“I was taking a lot of pills and I was in a tremendous amount of pain,” Lambie said of this period in her life.

Photographs were taken of her inside her home and officers reportedly spoke to her neighbours and friends to find out information.

In one extreme example, she said was filmed while she and her friends were getting changed inside her home.

“Lambie was involved in an assault.” Standard tariff for assaulting another soldier used to be twenty eight days “In the jug”, not 20 months fvcking compassionate leave.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 5, 2022 2:09 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 5, 2022 2:10 pm

You want zombie bacon?
Because this is how you end up with zombie bacon.
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-have-figured-out-a-way-to-restore-cell-functions-in-dead-pigs
To address the problem, a new system has been shown to restore some organ, cellular, and molecular function in dead pigs, and to preserve their tissues, even when the treatment is only initiated one hour after cardiac arrest.

The researchers adapted an existing technology called BrainEx, which has been shown to restore some function in isolated pig brains hours after death.

Their new system, called OrganEx, is intended for whole-body use in large mammals.

OrganEx has two components: a machine, and a fluid.

The machine is connected to the circulatory system. It creates a pulse similar to a heartbeat and oxygenates the fluid, similar to an ECMO. Where it stands apart is in the way it adds drugs to aid circulation and prevent clotting.

The machine also includes a number of sensors for important features of circulation like metabolism, hemoglobin, pressure, and flow.

It pumps synthetic fluid, mixed with the animal’s own blood at a 1:1 ratio, through the dead animal’s whole body. This fluid, unlike blood, is not made up of cells, although it is designed to protect cells from harm, and carry oxygen and drugs throughout the body.

Interesting stuff, will be great for transplantation.

And at least we know why Biden is able to stumble around and read cue cards.

Brain cell numbers had diminished in all treatment groups, except for OrganEx, where, in some sections of the brain, minimal damage had occurred, and in the prefrontal cortex, cells had been recovered to similar levels as the group that had not been exposed to warm ischemia.

Vicki
August 5, 2022 2:12 pm

An Aboriginal woman is 45 times more likely to experience domestic violence than a white woman. Violence patterns are passed on from parents to their children.
The writings by the early colonial ‘oppressors’ attested to that but hey! they were the colonisers what would they know right?

It is not merely the historical evidence of early contact with these communities that describes the horrific tribal violence inflicted upon Aboriginal women. Archaeological evidence also reveals terrible fractures to the skulls of women in pre settlement times.

Langton knows very well that Aboriginal society is patriarchal. The men dominated “ceremony” and consequently maintenance of “laws.” Lives were lost in fights over stolen women, including those of women who may have been “stolen”, but who were nevertheless often blamed for the infidelity and violation of tribal law.

Dot
Dot
August 5, 2022 2:14 pm

To address the problem, a new system has been shown to restore some organ, cellular, and molecular function in dead pigs, and to preserve their tissues, even when the treatment is only initiated one hour after cardiac arrest.

Umbrella Corporation I presume???

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 5, 2022 2:18 pm

The end of the world is near!!

The new AIMS annual survey is in with the shocking result that not only was last year a record, but this year is even better. There is more coral cover on the Great Barrier Reef than ever recorded. We’ve had four bleaching events in the last seven years, and record hottest ever heat, the highest CO2 levels recorded since we invented ways to record CO2, and yet, despite all that, the reef is thriving.

https://joannenova.com.au/2022/08/climate-change-causes-record-coral-cover-what-if-we-get-too-many-reefs/

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 5, 2022 2:25 pm

Confirming my estimates of her intelligence Linda “I shouldnt ask questions if the answers will be extremely unpalatable to me” Thorpe accuses the media of being racist for not making a big fuss when Aboriginal ladies are murdered.

Shes correct, but in the opposite way she thinks.

I congratulated The Guardian for finally coming around to Howard’s intervention.

Better late than never.

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 2:28 pm

“I did not want to end up back in public housing with a child.”
Thus depriving the boy of his chance to be PM .. sad!

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 2:30 pm

There is more coral cover on the Great Barrier Reef than ever recorded.

Come back, Mal .. all is forgiven! .. sarc ….

rickw
rickw
August 5, 2022 2:33 pm

In 2013, Thorpe was declared bankrupt, with over A$700,000 in debts

That’s an impressive tab given the year.

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 2:40 pm

How good is the LUCKY COUNTRY! .. all sorts of educational certificates to reach bankruptcy * then
making a comeback thru the Green “machine” into a $200K + freebies gig ..
* how does DM lead to bankruptcy?

– She holds a Diploma of Community Development from Swinburne University of Technology, a graduate certificate in public sector management, and a Certificate IV Indigenous Leadership.
– In 2013, Thorpe was declared bankrupt, with over A$700,000 in debts, including monies owed to Indigenous Business Australia, and A$55,000 owed to the Australian Taxation Office. She said that her bankruptcy resulted from domestic violence.

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 2:42 pm

DV not DM …………duuuuh!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 5, 2022 2:52 pm

With a massive and persisting gender pay gap, here’s why WA is the worst place in Australia to be a woman

If it were such an egregious there would be a steady deluge of lawsuits where the women showed they were being paid less for the same work. They would have the support of whole government departments dedicated to asserting their rights.

Has the ABC ever wondered why we don’t have that?

There would be headlines as high profile companies discovered they “couldn’t get away with it”, as a warning to everyone else.

It is like the stolen generations. A damnable injustice perpetrated by White Australia! We just can’t find any cases where White Australia actually did it.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 5, 2022 3:02 pm

A new low, even for the Alice:

A video has captured a naked man – who had allegedly just seriously assaulted a woman – holding his penis before climbing on top of a taxi and smashing the windscreen with his feet, then sitting on the roof of the car as the driver takes off.

The security video shot in Alice Springs shows the man wearing only casual shoes, and holding his penis with both hands, while jumping onto the bonnet of a taxi at a rank, before stomping on and breaking the glass of the windscreen in front of the driver’s face.

The car begins to drive off and the man then sits on the roof with his legs dangling over the windscreen, holding his penis again. The video ends there.

NT Independent

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 5, 2022 3:04 pm

Russian billionaire Alexander Abramov claims he has suffered business losses and severe damage to his reputation in the months after the Australian government included him on a list of sanctioned individuals over the war in Ukraine.

Abramov, who made his estimated $9 billion fortune in the steel industry, has launched legal action in the Federal Court against Australia’s then foreign affairs minister in an attempt to be removed from the list of business, military and political figures hit with sanctions in April.

duncanm
duncanm
August 5, 2022 3:04 pm

Big_Nambassays:
August 5, 2022 at 2:18 pm
The end of the world is near!!

The new AIMS annual survey is in with the shocking result that not only was last year a record, but this year is even better. There is more coral cover on the Great Barrier Reef than ever recorded.

.. and yet on ABC radio yesterday (yes, I know – but I was driving in the country) some wonk from the AIMS was still doom and gloom, because apparently the fast-colonising corals which moved in are, get this, more susceptible to future damage. There’s no half glass with these people, its all empty, all the time.

here it is. What a bunch of leeches.

But the new coral taking over is leaving the reef more vulnerable to future devastating impacts, according to the Australian Institute of Marine Science (AIMS).

calli
calli
August 5, 2022 3:05 pm

I’m not impressed with his taxi hailing technique.

Perhaps he should try the traditional style by simply waving his hand.

duncanm
duncanm
August 5, 2022 3:06 pm

Top Ender says:
August 5, 2022 at 3:02 pm
A new low, even for the Alice:

The security video shot in Alice Springs shows the man wearing only casual shoes,

there’s the real horror. Casual shoes!

Lysander
Lysander
August 5, 2022 3:07 pm

On Thorpe
I thought bankruptcy disqualified you from standing? Does it have to be current or historical? And, if current, how did she become “unbankrupt?”

calli
calli
August 5, 2022 3:08 pm

But the new coral taking over is leaving the reef more vulnerable to future devastating impacts, according to the Australian Institute of Marine Science (AIMS).

The new coral will form, then it will die. It has been ever thus.

These scientists do know about natural systems, don’t they? Or do they think everything lives forever?

duncanm
duncanm
August 5, 2022 3:08 pm

With a massive and persisting gender pay gap, here’s why WA is the worst place in Australia to be a woman

if there really was a gender pay gap (for equal skill etc), do you think companies would be hiring more expensive males ?

calli
calli
August 5, 2022 3:08 pm

Casual shoes!

Didn’t go with his suit either.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
August 5, 2022 3:10 pm

Scrolling above and noted comments about our Jacqui Jacqui being a single mum when in the Army.

Curious as to how the Army would accomodate a single mum and a bub.

Do they have a seperate barracks or do they get a flat or house supplied? Babysitter when at work?

Over to any ex military Cats, please.

Speedbox
August 5, 2022 3:11 pm

Perhaps he should try the traditional style by simply waving his hand.

Well he would have, but it appears his hands were full.

Lysander
Lysander
August 5, 2022 3:11 pm

I’m not impressed with his taxi hailing technique.

Lidia Thorpe showed us all how to hail a taxi the other day, right?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 5, 2022 3:12 pm

Top Endersays:
August 5, 2022 at 3:02 pm
A new low, even for the Alice:

A video has captured a naked man – who had allegedly just seriously assaulted a woman – holding his penis before climbing on top of a taxi and smashing the windscreen with his feet, then sitting on the roof of the car as the driver takes off.

Running round in the nude in the NT sure gets you a great suntan.

calli
calli
August 5, 2022 3:13 pm

On the corals – volunteer species are always the first to colonise. They are generally short lived but provide shelter and microclimate for longer lived species to re-establish. They get browsed, attacked by pests, all the usual perils.

This happens in areas after bushfire or clearing.

I don’t see why it would be any different for reefs.

Roger
Roger
August 5, 2022 3:15 pm

Stick a fork in ’em, they’re done:

Young Liberals report blames election loss on climate inaction, inadequate female representation and opposition to a federal crime commission.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 5, 2022 3:15 pm

“Domestic violence came with the invasion.”

Well, domesticity came with the settlers, so it is kind of right.

Violence against women was here loooong before whitey turned up.

As for there being rallies and protests when a white woman is murdered – wtf? The most they can hope for is a line that they were murdered – perhaps (on a slow news day) a neighbour will tell a Channel 7 camera that “She was a lovely lady” or “She kept to herself” and that is it.

Does Lidia imagine that the death of an Aboriginal woman in the cities is not reported?

She sort of (unwittingly – always her best side) has a point. There is terrible violence in some communities. But if it is unreported on TV part of the reason is that it is far away. But there is also the problem that the killers are almost certainly also Aboriginal, and to protect the narrative of the helpless victim race, they must gloss over the actual victim women to avoid mentioning the helpless victim perpetrators.

There are areas of Sydney where violence against women is sadly more common. Wastelands steeped in booze and drugs, peopled by the feckless and the enervated without the initiative or will to improve their lot, where crime and violence in all forms is commonplace.

Sound like anywhere you know, Lidia?

calli
calli
August 5, 2022 3:15 pm

I really missed out of the cultural delights of Alice Springs. I must go back and keep my eyes peeled.

Speedbox
August 5, 2022 3:16 pm

Outwardly Glencore, one of the world’s largest producers and traders of thermal coal, is circumspect about the future of the commodity, commonly referred to as the world’s dirtiest fuel. A crushing energy crisis, the Russian invasion of Ukraine and years of underinvestment in new coal supply have seen the commodity surge to record highs of in and around US$400/t.

Asked about whether it would consider reversing its position on running down its coal production along with net zero targets by 2050 on an earnings call yesterday, CEO Gary Nagle said the company remained aligned with the positions of global governments.

“We will not divert from our plan to responsibly run down our coal business. We made a commitment to our stakeholders, we made a commitment to the world. It’s right for the world and we will continue down that path,” he said.

“It’s not negotiable. I mean, in an extreme event that all the governments of the world come together and say, we’re putting a pause on (responding to) climate change, and we need energy security and please produce more coal… yes, we would.

“I think that’s very unlikely to happen.”

Inwardly Glencore’s traders are probably running around the halls of its Swiss offices singing “coal, coal, coal, coal” the way Vikings lovingly sing about spam in the world of Monty Python.

For Glencore coal’s magic 2022 run has translated into a stunning 800%+ lift in earnings per share from US0.10c to US0.92c in the first half of 2022, with coal sales the backbone of a jump of 119% in adjusted first half EBITDA to US$18.9b.

Coal earnings rose like a phoenix from the CO2 emitting ashes, climbing from US$912m in the first half of 2021 to US$8.9b in the first half of 2022. Energy trading (up 344%) was also the biggest contributor to a 104% earnings lift in Glencore’s marketing division to US$3.7b. Metals and mining fell 17% as prices for hard commodities fell off.

Margins in Glencore’s coal operations rose a staggering 760% in the past year to US$160.8b. At spot levels, it will generate US$20b in earnings in 2022 at a margin of US$165/t. Glencore will pay US$4.5 billion back to shareholders including a US$3 billion share buyback, taking its capital returns for 2022 to around US$8.5b.

Glencore expects spot adjusted EBITDA of over US$32 billion in 2022, against US$21.3b in 2021.

https://stockhead.com.au/resources/ground-breakers-coal-coal-coal-and-coal-drives-800-earnings-lift-for-glencore/

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 5, 2022 3:17 pm

Thorpe was declared bankrupt, with over A$700,000 in debts…
and A$55,000 owed to the Australian Taxation Office.

Her needs outstripped her abilities.
No wonder she found a home with the greeds.

calli
calli
August 5, 2022 3:20 pm

“Domestic violence came with the invasion.”

Before that the locals were beating the cr*p out of the weak and fearful in the bushland or under the stars.

Fortunately whitey brought nice houses with handy floorboards to rip up and use instead, thus saving precious time stripping the trees for weapons. And don’t forget bricks and iron bars. Excellent for a bit of “domestic” biffo.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
August 5, 2022 3:21 pm

The Great Barrier Reef has been on the point of oblivion for donkey’s years according to all these Uni based marine experts. “We must do something” they howl.

Next winter, right on cue, said marine experts and a bevy of attractive young “research assistants” book into the many luxury resorts along the Reef, buy up the latest scuba gear and underwater cameras on the taxpayer credit card and go “researching”. The accompanying 5 star dinners are just another burden the are forced to carry in this vitally important mission.

Nice work if you can get it.

Cassie of Sydney
August 5, 2022 3:21 pm

“Young Liberals report blames election loss on climate inaction, inadequate female representation and opposition to a federal crime commission.”

Note how the three issues are all “Steal” issues. No wonder Albanese is laughing.

duncanm
duncanm
August 5, 2022 3:21 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
August 5, 2022 at 1:32 pm
https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/domestic-and-family-violence

“Domestic violence came with the invasion.”

In a way, this is true.

Before the colonists, it was just considered ordinary family life.

Cassie of Sydney
August 5, 2022 3:23 pm

““Domestic violence came with the invasion.””

How very Rousseau…if anything European colonisation helped protect Aboriginal women.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 5, 2022 3:25 pm

A video has captured a naked man

That video is more pro-active than most police in bringing the ne’er do well to book.

I feel like Xerxes watching the Persian disaster at Salamis unfold from his hilltop, directed to observe how Queen Artemisia had just sunk a ship which they (mistakenly) had taken to be Greek:

“Behold! My men have become women, and my women become men.”

Well, our static devices for monitoring behaviour in public spaces have become enforcers of law, and our enforcers of law become static devices for monitoring behaviour in public.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 5, 2022 3:31 pm

Young Liberals report blames election loss on climate inaction, inadequate female representation and opposition to a federal crime commission.

Perhaps I am being unfair, but my image of anyone who joins the Liberals when they are young is of an effete little sycophant (lapdog) looking for arse to kiss so they can rise to mediocrity.

In my uni days Young Labor, on the other hand, were mongrels. They were leftist idealists (i.e. wrong) but who felt they needed a machine to be effective.

The Sparts, Left Action, Young Socialists, etc were just rabid.

calli
calli
August 5, 2022 3:31 pm

The amusing thing is that 1/16th Thorpe wouldn’t be Thorpe at all without the “invasion”.

She focusses her entire existence on a tiny part of her heritage and throws away the rest as garbage. It’s obsession, like forever mulling over that one famous ancestor, Derbeyfield style.

But it’s a nice earner, so it may just be opportunism and greed.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 3:31 pm

The leader of the Jacqui Lambie Network answered questions on her 10 years of service in the armed forces and her treatment by the Department of Veterans Affairs which led her to a suicide attempt.

Most ex – servicemen have a horror story about D.V.A, – I’ve never had any problems – but D.V.A. does have some fairly monumental shonkies pulled on them. Did you know that a man can die, and leave three widows behind him? Doing guard duty, in a war zone, and being tapped on the shoulder by the duty officer can turn you into a hopeless alcoholic, stricken with PTSD? Shoot up the sergeants mess at Nui Dat – two of the sergeants died from their wounds – serve your time in gaol – submit a claim for PTSD?

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 3:33 pm

Well I’ll be blowed! PM to take leave is the announcement. Don’t worry too much, he’ll be back in September to take over the reins again. Or should I have left out the apostrophe?

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 3:34 pm

how did she become “unbankrupt?”

Not sure about other states but in NSW you just keep your head below the parapet for 3 years and all is forgiven …
tho I am surprised that owing the ATO money can be absolved thru bankruptcy .. I thought that once you owe the tax man you owe until it’s paid regardless ……

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 5, 2022 3:37 pm

Top Endersays:
August 5, 2022 at 1:22 pm
I taught a new undergraduate course in environmental sociology

In other words, she just made it up.

I did Sociology 101 about 40 years ago. It was about 80% made-up rubbish.

Overpaid woke jobs must be first for the chop

Public service jobs like diversity officer, sustainability manager and sensitivity reader have proliferated in recent years. Treasurer, if you’re looking for savings, start there

Claire Lehmann

Any chance of a post by someone?

Obviously generating interest as separate article

READER COMMENTS

‘To boost nation’s productivity, cull the bureaucracy’

Readers have their say on too many woke non-jobs, China’s latest neighbourhood bully act, and rumours of the reef’s death being greatly exaggerated.

Thanks in advance

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 5, 2022 3:38 pm

As for there being rallies and protests when a white woman is murdered – wtf? The most they can hope for is a line that they were murdered – perhaps (on a slow news day) a neighbour will tell a Channel 7 camera that “She was a lovely lady” or “She kept to herself” and that is it.

Sort of.
ABC luvvie walking home in inner Melbourne gets murdered- wall to wall media hysteria, vigils, etc. (Jill Meagher).
Aspiring left wing comedian walking home in inner Melbourne gets murdered- wall to wall media hysteria, vigils, etc. (Eurydice Dixon).
(Hypothetically) a shop assistant walking home from Westfield Fountain Gate gets murdered in Narre Warren – you’re absolutely spot on.

Winston Smith
August 5, 2022 3:41 pm

Top Ender:
I haven’t scrolled all the way down yet, but it would appear there are lots of strange goings on in Darwin…

NT Police have not issued a public warning about a naked man who several women have told the NT Independent has approached or chased them in the Marlow Lagoon dog park since mid December, while another source said police are hamstrung in apprehending the man because of a lack of official victim statements.

She ran to the car, she said, but he heard her car beeping from being remotely opened, and started running at her.

“I immediately picked up my dog’s balls and grabbed his collar and hightailed it. I was petrified,” she said.

Lucky her dog didn’t bite her.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 5, 2022 3:43 pm

Top Ender says:
August 5, 2022 at 3:02 pm
A new low, even for the Alice:

On artistic merit, how does that rank against this?

Roger
Roger
August 5, 2022 3:44 pm

Perhaps I am being unfair, but my image of anyone who joins the Liberals when they are young is of an effete little sycophant (lapdog) looking for arse to kiss so they can rise to mediocrity.

And they – thoroughly indoctrinated in progressive dogmas – constitute a goodly part of the “talent pool” the Liberal Party of Australia will draw upon for future candidates.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 3:48 pm

How very Rousseau…if anything European colonisation helped protect Aboriginal women.

It’s an inconvenient that there were those Aboriginal women who preferred European men as partners – they were generally treated much better….

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 5, 2022 3:50 pm

Ted Cruz again, this time with the State Department Chief Diversity and Inclusion officer.

I think they are told to act clueless as there is no penalty for looking stupid.

JMH
JMH
August 5, 2022 3:50 pm

dover0beachsays:
August 5, 2022 at 12:03 pm
T

hank you, P. There was no way I could get to Tom’s tunes on the previous page this morning.

JMH, what was the last comment you could see on page 4 and when were you looking for them and not finding them?

Dover, Arky at 12.15 am. This freezing started about four or five days ago. I found a workaround which failed this morning. When I used the workaround – either hitting “home” or “about” and then going to the comments r/h/s – about 5 of Tom’s came up but none of them took me to the cartoons on page 4. Came straight in just now and also, user name and email plus the ‘save my name’ tick on the comment window are now present..

Speedbox
August 5, 2022 3:52 pm

shatterzzz says:
August 5, 2022 at 3:34 pm
tho I am surprised that owing the ATO money can be absolved thru bankruptcy .. I thought that once you owe the tax man you owe until it’s paid regardless ……

I believe ‘it depends’. Income tax debts greater than 3 years old are extinguished but not those newer. However, if the ATO has obtained a judgement in the courts (even for older tax debt), I don’t think that is extinguished. Child support and HECS debts are not extinguished nor are court imposed fines.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 5, 2022 3:53 pm

The Point of No Return

By Thomas Sowell

This is an election year. But the issues this year are not about Democrats and Republicans. The big issue is whether this nation has degenerated to a point of no return — a point where we risk destroying ourselves, before our enemies can destroy us.

If there is one moment that symbolized our degeneration, it was when an enraged mob gathered in front of the Supreme Court and a leader of the United States Senate shouted threats against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, saying “You won’t know what hit you!”

There have always been irresponsible demagogues. But there was once a time when anyone who shouted threats to a Supreme Court Justice would see the end of his own political career, and could not show his face in decent society again.

You either believe in laws or you believe in mob rule. It doesn’t matter whether you agree with the law or agree with the mob on some particular issue. If threats of violence against judges — and publishing where a judge’s children go to school — is the way to settle issues, then there is not much point in having elections or laws.

There is also not much point in expecting to have freedom. Threats and violence were the way the Nazis came to power in Germany. Freedom is not free. If you can’t be bothered to vote against storm-trooper tactics — regardless of who engages in them, or over what issue — then you can forfeit your freedom.

Claiming that it was nearly impossible to amend the Constitution, Progressives advocated that judges “interpret” the Constitutional limits out of the way.

This was just the first in a long series of sophistries.

In reality, the Constitution was amended 4 times in 8 years — from 1913 through 1920 — during the heyday of the Progressive era.

When the people wanted the Constitution amended, it was amended. When the elites wanted the Constitution amended, but the people did not, that is called democracy.

Voters need to find out who is for or against mob rule, whether they are Democrats or Republicans. We are not going to be a free or decent society otherwise.

JMH
JMH
August 5, 2022 3:54 pm

dover0beachsays:
August 5, 2022 at 12:22 pm

JMH, was it like shatterzzz indicated:

Nothing between 12.15am and the Rowe cartoon (top of page) for me this morning?

Let me know.

Sorry for the late replies, Dover. R/L. Yes. It was.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 5, 2022 3:58 pm

Rogersays:
August 5, 2022 at 3:44 pm
Perhaps I am being unfair, but my image of anyone who joins the Liberals when they are young is of an effete little sycophant (lapdog) looking for arse to kiss so they can rise to mediocrity

In early 60s was looking at joining the Liberal Party, but it was only because they had great functions and they were the best place to meet Good Looking Girls

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 5, 2022 4:02 pm

I thought there is < 100 people with the pox?

10 News First

@10NewsFirst
#Breaking: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Health Minister Mark Butler have confirmed Australia has secured 450,000 doses of the monkeypox vaccine by Bavarian Nordic.

The first delivery of about 22,000 doses will arrive in the country later this week. #auspol #monkeypox

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 5, 2022 4:03 pm

Bankruptcy law applies to all debts once bankruptcy is declared , either by debtors petition or creditors petition.

The trustee gets paid, secured creditors next, unsecured (including ATO) get anything left.

Usually no one gets much. Except the trustee.

P
P
August 5, 2022 4:06 pm

With the page turn now I lost my name and email save.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 5, 2022 4:09 pm

And you can be discharged from bankruptcy after 3 years and start again.

rosie
rosie
August 5, 2022 4:11 pm

The Palestinian student who got murdered by an Aboriginal man in Reservoir got quite a bit of coverage.
‘Reclaim the night’ murders.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 5, 2022 4:12 pm

And you can be discharged from bankruptcy after 3 years and start again.

Matches the 3 year term for HOR.

Speedbox
August 5, 2022 4:12 pm

Zyconoclast says:
August 5, 2022 at 4:02 pm
I thought there is < 100 people with the pox?

Yes. As at 2nd August there were 53 cases.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 5, 2022 4:16 pm

Lady twerking in Chicago on a police car vs naked bloke on a taxi in the Alice.

Hmmm.

I do know in our trip to the USA coming up I will be prepared due to my “training courses” in the NT.

(Tell a lie. In previous trips to the US it was noticeable how orderly it was. The meeja love to put alarmist isolated stuff on the teev.)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 4:20 pm

The Palestinian student who got murdered by an Aboriginal man in Reservoir got quite a bit of coverage.
‘Reclaim the night’ murders.

He was the original “aspiring rapper,” from memory.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 5, 2022 4:21 pm

shatterzzz

tho I am surprised that owing the ATO money can be absolved thru bankruptcy .. I thought that once you owe the tax man you owe until it’s paid regardless ……

Senator Thorpe might receive bigger tax bill this year than she expected. The mills of the ATO may grind slow, but they do grind woe.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 5, 2022 4:24 pm

He was the original “aspiring rapper,” from memory.

Not the original, just one of a long line of them.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 5, 2022 4:26 pm

Aspiring Rapper

North American euphemism for a member of the urban criminal class. This unusual occupation is usually mentioned in conjunction with the subject either being slain or being taken into custody for a violent or property-related crime. A relative of the subject usually points out that the subjects demise or incarceration comes at an extremely inopportune moment, ocurring just as they subject was “turning they(sic) life around.

rickw
rickw
August 5, 2022 4:29 pm

Tell a lie. In previous trips to the US it was noticeable how orderly it was. The meeja love to put alarmist isolated stuff on the teev.

Going out at night in the USA is pretty safe, going out at night in the UK is genuinely dangerous.

rickw
rickw
August 5, 2022 4:31 pm

I thought there is < 100 people with the pox? .

Yep, and they’re all gay men. Why do we need 450,000 doses? AusGov panicking again and doing crazy shit.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 4:32 pm

Senator Thorpe might receive bigger tax bill this year than she expected

It will all be a white, racist, plot to bring her down…

Roger
Roger
August 5, 2022 4:33 pm

AusGov panicking again and doing crazy shit.

On the advice of the doctor who can’t say what a woman is.

cohenite
August 5, 2022 4:34 pm

The NSW LNP is fucked. Kean will beat Elliot and keep the deputy and treasurer’s job and will become opposition leader when the LNP is reduced to about 10 in next March’s election.

Nothing will be learnt from WA, SA victoristan and soon NSW. They are beyond redemption and must be regarded as merely a faction of the alp/filth.

Mater
August 5, 2022 4:34 pm

Going out at night in the USA is pretty safe, going out at night in the UK is genuinely dangerous.

Going out in Victoria, anywhere, at anytime, had it’s perils, not all that long ago.

The ‘Brown Shirts in Blue’ were at the top of their game.

Zipster
Zipster
August 5, 2022 4:35 pm

I taught a new undergraduate course in environmental sociology

or as they used to call it, agrarian socialism

Zipster
Zipster
August 5, 2022 4:36 pm

Yep, and they’re all gay men. Why do we need 450,000 doses? AusGov panicking again and doing crazy shit.

what there’s nearly half a million fags?!?!? I call BS

cohenite
August 5, 2022 4:38 pm

Some titles for the jaded. In the 1950s and 1960s there were some great magazines for red blooded men. Mans Peril was one of them and below is a sample of the outstanding articles to be found in just one edition:

Nympho Queens Who Rule the Mafia
Bizarre Sex Kicks of Jet-Set He Men
Kill Crazy Captain of Company C
Man Eating Cougars Wanted Our Flesh!
I Battled the Blood Hungry Hell Cultists

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 5, 2022 4:41 pm

Eddie Bett’s story relates to a pre-season training camp run by the Adelaide Crows.

Players were subjected a “mind bending” exercise to reveal their secrets and history = supposedly in confidence – to focus on toughness and single mindedness for the coming season.

Confidences were betrayed in open session to all and sundry. Betts and some other aboriginal players felt they had betrayed family and clan.

Other players (non-aboriginal) were put through the same wringer and were pissed off by it. Josh Jenkins has now gone public about it..

A fuck up by someone in charge at Adelaide (probably the coach got sucked in) and the AFL tried to ignore it and probably instructed the AFL Players Assn to do likewise.

Not sure if it was the same camp where they did the fire walking and burnt players feet.

calli
calli
August 5, 2022 4:41 pm

Nothing will be learnt from WA, SA victoristan and soon NSW

We are hurtling towards a socialist kleptocracy and there’s nothing out there to stop it, at least politically. It will pretend to be something else while there’s benefit in pretending. Soon there will be no need at all.

The LNP snakes have read the writing on the wall and it offers nothing for them unless they roll over and play at being “opposition”. The money and power will still be available, just not the principles which have long since fled and simply don’t matter any more.

I realised that when I was told I didn’t matter. And I don’t. “The Base” is meaningless.

Mammon is king.

calli
calli
August 5, 2022 4:43 pm

Why do we need 450,000 doses?

Who got the Spotter’s Fee?

rickw
rickw
August 5, 2022 4:44 pm

The car begins to drive off and the man then sits on the roof with his legs dangling over the windscreen, holding his penis again.

If it wasn’t for the risk of being charged by police, my guess is that the second foot onto the bonnet would have resulted in a planted foot and penis holder exiting over the rear of the vehicle for some well earned gravel rash.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 5, 2022 4:47 pm

Barking Toadsays:
August 5, 2022 at 4:41 pm
Eddie Bett’s story relates to a pre-season training camp run by the Adelaide Crows.

And, commendably, Betts has said publicly that it wasn’t just the Aboriginal players, it was all players.
Unfortunate news for the grievance industry that a high profile indigenous person isn’t going to make every incident a racially divisive one.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 5, 2022 4:47 pm

Pedro, I am an Army brat so maybe old knowledge.

Accommodation wouldn’t be an issue she would get a married quarter these days. Also non field force postings.

Roger
Roger
August 5, 2022 4:49 pm

The NSW LNP is fucked.

Theu AGM, at which the membership base will attempt to wrest control from the factions, is tomorrow.

That’s their last chance.

rickw
rickw
August 5, 2022 4:49 pm

On the advice of the doctor who can’t say what a woman is.

Dumb fuck doesn’t know what a woman is, nor due diligence.

Cassie of Sydney
August 5, 2022 4:58 pm

“callisays:
August 5, 2022 at 4:41 pm”

Well said.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 5, 2022 5:05 pm

Derbeyfield style.

Well, she is Tess-tifying.

Zipster
Zipster
August 5, 2022 5:05 pm
calli
calli
August 5, 2022 5:09 pm

Well, Cassie, it’s like this…

If a boyfriend, or even a friend, told me I didn’t matter to them and then tried to wheedle their way back into my good graces because they thought I had no other alternative, what do you think I’d do?

These jerks think I’m desperate. I’m not. And neither is a great proportion of The Base. Sure, there will be some needy rusted-ons, but they are ever diminishing.

Abusive relationships have to be walked away from. And, unlike Lot’s wife, you never turn back.

Conservatives aren’t like Labor’s True Believers. Principles matter.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 5, 2022 5:12 pm

Curious as to how the Army would accomodate a single mum and a bub.

If she was screaming ‘compo’ every five minutes, and potentially living in the bongo barracks – or if a baby was in the picture, as RD says, perhaps an unused married quarter.

Jacquie ‘Shagger’s Back’ Lambie would have had a couple of options.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 5, 2022 5:15 pm

Thanks OldOzzie @ August 5, 2022 at 3:53 pm

Sowell is always worth listening to.

The man really has a gift – or rather, we as an audience have a gift that we can hear and reflect on what he says, and the question is whether people have the intelligence to hear what he says.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 5, 2022 5:16 pm

Coal is dead…..isn’t it????????????????????/

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P
P
August 5, 2022 5:18 pm

Yep, and they’re all gay men. Why do we need 450,000 doses? AusGov panicking again and doing crazy shit

In preparation for Sydney worldpride 2023.

Although the traditional Pride month in the northern hemisphere is June, Sydney WorldPride 2023 will be staged Friday 17 February – Sunday 5 March 2023 which is the traditional timing of the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras and of course, in the heart of the Australian summer!

Not only does Sydney WorldPride represent the first time the event will be staged in the southern hemisphere, but the 2023 festival coincides with the 50th anniversary of the first Australian Gay Pride Week, the 45th anniversary of the first Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, and the fifth anniversary of Marriage Equality in Australia.

Keith Forwheels
Keith Forwheels
August 5, 2022 5:19 pm

Coal is dead…..isn’t it????????????????????/

Apparently the Great Barrier Reef was also. Maybe it is dead in the same way.

Rabz
August 5, 2022 5:21 pm

err, WTF – it took Jackie Jacqui 22 weeks to realise she was up the duff?

calli
calli
August 5, 2022 5:25 pm

Politics isn’t a matter of conviction any longer. Our politicians have degenerated into the type I saw back in the 80’s in PNG. Nothing and no one stands in the way of a quick buck and a grab at power and influence.

A nice little earner with a chance to suction up some more dosh by way of committees and advisories and any other scheme they can get their filthy mitts on. And a heads up on developments and changes to legislation – the ultimate in insider trading.

They don’t even need to be smart any more. How else to explain why a rabid bankrupt non-entity like Thorpe can wield power and ram our traditions, traditions that she has benefited from, back in our faces? Or Hanson Young, or Jackie Jackie? They are worse than useless, they are malignant Jezebels.

And the men are no better. Oily, supine, mendacious, lazy, opportunistic. They disgust me.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 5, 2022 5:28 pm

They are worse than useless, they are malignant Jezebels.

Nail. Head.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 5:31 pm

err, WTF – it took Jackie Jacqui 22 weeks to realise she was up the duff?

Thank you Squire, I was wondering myself.

Mark you, this is someone who transferred to the Elephant Trackers (Military Police) because she wanted to join the Federal Police after discharge, so she became a traffic controller – wearing the reflective gauntlets, and making sure all the trucks in the convoy went the same way…..

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 5, 2022 5:32 pm

Zipstersays:
August 5, 2022 at 4:36 pm
Yep, and they’re all gay men. Why do we need 450,000 doses? AusGov panicking again and doing crazy shit.

what there’s nearly half a million fags?!?!? I call BS

I reckon there’d be close to 100,000 in Canberra. Half of them. their wives wouldn’t know. How does Head Homo keep getting elected.

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 5:32 pm

shatterzzzsays:
August 5, 2022 at 3:34 pm

Not sure what goes on here. An acquaintance of mine, dependant on an Aged Pension, has a considerable debt to the ATO coming via the CSA which we know is part of the aforementioned body. The offspring for which the debt was accrued is now over 30 years of age and the principle of the debt, and more, has been long paid. The guy’s magnanimous pension is deducted fortnightly to recover “interest payments” apparently now in the tens of thousands of dollars. His fortnightly deductions have just been increased. Is this where we want to be?

Cassie of Sydney
August 5, 2022 5:33 pm

“Although the traditional Pride month in the northern hemisphere is June, Sydney WorldPride 2023 will be staged Friday 17 February – Sunday 5 March 2023 which is the traditional timing of the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras and of course, in the heart of the Australian summer!”

Perfect conditions for “Schlong Covid”.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 5, 2022 5:33 pm

And the men are no better. Oily, supine, mendacious, lazy, opportunistic.

And again.

Lovely darts calli.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 5, 2022 5:34 pm

On fire today calli.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 5:36 pm

Biloela family granted permanent visas
Noah Yim

Immigration and Citizenship Minister Andrew Giles has issued the Nadesalingam family – the Biloela family – with permanent visas.

“Following careful consideration of all relevant matters and options before me, I exercised my power … to intervene in the case of the Nadesalingam family,” Mr Giles said in a media release.

“This government made a commitment before the election that if elected we would allow the family to return to Biloela and resolve the family’s immigration status. Today, the government has delivered on that promise.

“This decision follows careful consideration of the Nadesalingam family’s complex and specific circumstances.”

This comes after acting Home Affairs Minister Jim Chalmers issued the family with bridging visas in the first week under the Albanese government.

The Tamil family made national headlines when they were taken to immigration detention in 2018 under the former Coalition government after their bridging visas expired.

The family said they would face persecution if deported to Sri Lanka, but were found not to meet refugee requirements.

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 5:39 pm

callisays:
August 5, 2022 at 5:09 pm
Interesting to see a push to remove Kean from the Deputy job in NSW. I doubt it will happen but even if it does, I suspect it’s too little, too late. KANAVAN FOR PM.

Cassie of Sydney
August 5, 2022 5:41 pm

“callisays:
August 5, 2022 at 5:25 pm”

Perfect, just perfect calli.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 5, 2022 5:41 pm

From the ACT local mayor…..

Chief Minister Andrew Barr has called for the public commentary around monkeypox to be measured and respectful, saying it’s not just a gay man’s disease, it can affect anyone.

Fair chance if you’re not into the sport of punching the mud button you should be OK though.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 5, 2022 5:43 pm

“I immediately picked up my dog’s balls and grabbed his collar and hightailed it. I was petrified,” she said.

Lucky her dog didn’t bite her.

Reminds me of the joke. Paddy and Mick are going home after getting plastered at the local pub. Mick looks at a dog in the gutter licking his balls. Mick says to Paddy “I wish I could do that”. “I think I’d pat him first” replies Paddy.

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 5:43 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
August 5, 2022 at 5:36 pm
Clear message here for the smugglers handbook handed out to passengers. When you get there, fornicate, fornicate fornicate, Just get someone up the duff,

Cassie of Sydney
August 5, 2022 5:45 pm

Democracy in the West is a rule of the woke, for the woke and by the woke.

The non-woke…that is most of us, don’t matter.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 5, 2022 5:47 pm

Renewed Driver’s Licence for 5 years this arvo. $192 for 5 years. Must say the operation was swift. 3 minutes max, “touch here with credit card sir” and seeya later. Now I know what sheep feel like in the shearing shed. I feel shorn.

calli
calli
August 5, 2022 5:47 pm

It’s Friday. Lot’s wife, Jezebel…next it will be the ghastly Ahab.

If only they could all go mad and start eating the PH grass roof (Nebuchadnezzar).

I’m going all Biblical! 😀

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 5:47 pm

Clear message here for the smugglers handbook handed out to passengers. When you get there, fornicate, fornicate fornicate, Just get someone up the duff,

From memory, this couple were advised that having children would not allow them to stay in Australia.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 5, 2022 5:48 pm

Zyconoclastsays:
August 5, 2022 at 3:50 pm

Ted Cruz again, this time with the State Department Chief Diversity and Inclusion officer.

Gina Abercrombie-Winstanley – always impressive to see a South Australian do well.

Cruz is a bulldog. He is relentless. And he he goes for the throat.

But as for Abercrombie-Winstanley: I wonder what would happen if a white male was made an officer for Diversity and Inclusion? The objections would be that a person already with access to all the supposed special rights cannot understand the gripes of the wounded. It could easily be argued that he understands them better because he actually exercises them.

Instead it must go to the aggrieved, who see these rights from the outside. Who must surmise what these special rights are.

And from what we see these imagined ‘rights’ are quite ridiculous. It is the flights of fancy as to what someone can do, overlaid with someone else can do, and the gap between them is called injustice.

Look at ‘Da Pay Gapp’. Someone thinking about all the stuff they could do with the money that some guy makes, superimposed on the reality of what they actually do, and the difference is prejudice or injustice or whatever.

And all based on reward, and no consideration of responsibility – of the 80 hours weeks, of the bearing of failure, of the risks taken. Of the ulcers, of the broken marriages and so on. All invisible from their point of view.

Point is that they think only the angry self-ascribed outsider can do this, not a person who has lived it.

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 5:52 pm

Eyriesays:
August 5, 2022 at 5:47 pm
Great line in The Magnificent Seven from Eli Wallach’s bandit character: “If God didn’t want them shorn, he wouldn’t have made them sheep”. You there Wolfman at the movies?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 5, 2022 5:58 pm

Reminds me of the joke. Paddy and Mick are going home after getting plastered at the local pub. Mick looks at a dog in the gutter licking his balls. Mick says to Paddy “I wish I could do that”. “I think I’d pat him first” replies Paddy.

Or……….

“I bet you can’t do that!”

“Hold the dog.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 6:00 pm

One-legged dementia sufferer, 93, died after Sussex police tasered him in care home
Emma Yeomans
Friday August 05 2022, 12.01am BST, The Times
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A 93-year-old dementia sufferer with one leg died after police officers pepper-sprayed and shot him with a Taser inside his care home.

Police were called to the home in St Leonards-on-Sea in East Sussex after reports that an elderly man in a wheelchair was threatening staff with a knife.

When two officers arrived, they found Donald Burgess, a resident who suffered from advanced dementia, holding a knife.

After speaking to him briefly, one of the officers pepper-sprayed him and then used his baton while the second officer tasered him.

After being disarmed, Burgess was handcuffed and taken to hospital on June 21. He died after three weeks in hospital, although the exact cause of death has not been established.

Sussex police voluntarily referred themselves to the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) over excessive use of force by the officers, both of whom are constables.

The two have been told that they are under criminal investigation for manslaughter. They have also been handed gross misconduct notices.

The IOPC said that initial steps carried out in the investigation included taking witness statements and reviewing the officers’ body-worn video footage. Graham Beesley, IOPC regional director, said: “I want to express my sympathies to the man’s relatives and those who knew him. We have advised his next-of-kin of our independent investigation and explained the steps we will be taking.

“This will include investigating whether the force used by the two officers against this male was reasonable, necessary and proportionate.”

Tanya Jones, assistant chief constable of Sussex police, said: “We want to express our sympathies to the family and friends of Mr Burgess.

“We are providing every assistance to the IOPC to allow for a thorough investigation and for the family to receive the answers they need.”

There have been concerns over police use of Tasers following other incidents in which people died after one was used against them.

Zipster
Zipster
August 5, 2022 6:03 pm

tyrant big mad

China fires missiles ‘over mainland Taiwan’ in serious escalation of military threats
Claims came from Japan’s Defence Ministry, and would mark the first time Beijing has sent missiles across the island

Frank
Frank
August 5, 2022 6:05 pm

The fact that the press have been unable to find that heterosexual monkeypox “survivor” to make into the face of the disease tells you pretty much all you need to know.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 5, 2022 6:12 pm

Paddy asks Mick why do you have a large bandage on each of your ears.
Mick says I was doing the ironing and the phone rang. I accidentally put the iron to my ear.
Paddy asks what happened to your other ear?
Mick says I had to call the ambulance. ..

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 5, 2022 6:14 pm

The security video shot in Alice Springs shows the man wearing only casual shoes,

Standards slip rapidly once you leave the metropolitan area. I would have thought a leather loafer would have been appropriate.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 6:17 pm

Mick says I had to call the ambulance. ..

True story.

The Government of Eire was advised that, to be qualify for entry into the EEC, they would have to appoint a Commissioner of Equal Opportunity, to investigate claims of sexual discrimination.

The position was duly advertised – with separate pay-scales – for men and women…

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 6:26 pm

Barking Toadsays:
August 5, 2022 at 5:58 pm
The Irishman was asleep in the gutter (no offence, I identify as both Irish and porcine) with a pig when a rather prurient woman was walking by. She said “You can tell the one who boozes by the company he chooses and with that the pig got up and walked away”.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 5, 2022 6:37 pm

Labor a bit touchy about being seen as weak on border control:

An Australian Border force ship, which intercepted a people smugglers’ boat carrying 46 Sri Lankans, has docked in Colombo port in what is believed to be the first Australian deportation by sea of Sri Lankan asylum seekers.

Sri Lankan naval authorities confirmed the ABF Ocean Shield arrived in Sri Lankan waters outside the high security port in the Sri Lankan capital about 9am Friday morning (local time) and offloaded the Sri Lankan returnees.

But Sri Lankan navy operations director Prasanna Mahawithana told The Australian authorities there had been expecting the Ocean Shield, having been made aware of the interception by the ABF and would process the returnees, who were likely to be charged with immigration offences and face court in the capital.

rickw
rickw
August 5, 2022 6:37 pm
cohenite
August 5, 2022 6:38 pm

Zipstersays:
August 5, 2022 at 5:05 pm
Tucker Carlson shreds Soros-backed prosecutors #shorts

The fact that soros still has a heartbeat says all you need to know about the world. That and the fact the sheeple vote for these POSs.

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 5, 2022 6:41 pm

Great line in The Magnificent Seven from Eli Wallach’s bandit character: “If God didn’t want them shorn, he wouldn’t have made them sheep”.

Hearkens back to line by the Empower Tiberius in reference to taxation

‘It is the duty of a good shepherd to shear his sheep, not to skin them.’

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 6:41 pm

Dover

WorldPride just as Lent begins. How instructive.

Bit of irony here. I interpret this as meaning there will be more people abstaining from meat during Lent, given that these trendy crowds are very closely cross fertilised.

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 6:44 pm

@Topender

and face court in the capital.

If courts or Capital there still be.

cohenite
August 5, 2022 6:44 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Just booked my first interstate trip since..er.. 2019.
Apart from having to put shoes, trousers & a coat on, is there anything else a bloke should know about Sydney? (i.e. mask or vaccination rules)

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 6:52 pm

Well, this is no surprise from Labor .. champions of rubbish decisions .. FFS!
Wonder how long they’ll be calling Biloela home before the “big smoke” beckons? ..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-05/qld-biloela-tamil-family-nadesalingam-granted-permanent-visas/101306510

Winston Smith
August 5, 2022 6:57 pm

Calli:

Why do we need 450,000 doses?

Who got the Spotter’s Fee?

I’d put good money on the bulk of them being similar to the Soviet ‘Plan’ product.
Antibiotics made in excess of planned and budgeted production. Bonuses all round for fulfilling quota. The bottles and vials probably contained little more than distilled water.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 5, 2022 6:58 pm

is there anything else a bloke should know about

Clean underpants – in case you’re in an accident. Ask ya mum.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 5, 2022 7:01 pm

eli wallach ann jackson Gosh those names bring back memories , I met them both

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Barking Toad says: August 5, 2022 at 6:58 pm

Clean underpants – in case you’re in an accident. Ask ya mum.

You’re advising two layers of clothing?

Thanks for the heads up. A bloke forgets just how cold it gets down south, need two layers of clothes… crikey!

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
August 5, 2022 7:06 pm

LGBT groups demand action on Monkeypox, says the BBC:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62425720

Well they could start by shutting down the bathhouses.

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 7:10 pm

@Toad

crikey!

Shades of Barry McKenzie. Haven’t heard it for years. Thank God, the vernacular is still alive somewhere.

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 7:12 pm

@Old Lefty
Or alternatively the government supported LGBetc groups.

Roger
Roger
August 5, 2022 7:14 pm

Just booked my first interstate trip since..er.. 2019.
Apart from having to put shoes, trousers & a coat on, is there anything else a bloke should know about Sydney?

Best avoided Friday 17 February – Sunday 5 March 2023.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 5, 2022 7:18 pm

Best avoided Sunday 5 Aug 2022 forever…………..

Cassie of Sydney
August 5, 2022 7:22 pm

I have a feeling that Peta Credlin reads the Cat. Just a feeling.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 5, 2022 7:24 pm

Wonder how long they’ll be calling Biloela home before the “big smoke” beckons? ..
They’ll be in Brissy or Sydney within a month.

Winston Smith
August 5, 2022 7:26 pm

China fires missiles ‘over mainland Taiwan’ in serious escalation of military threats
Claims came from Japan’s Defence Ministry, and would mark the first time Beijing has sent missiles across the island

I have a vague memory of someone being able to create an EMP without nuclear weapons – something to do with explosively crushing different types of metal together.
If China is sending non nuclear weapons over Taiwan, could they be trying for a sucker punch of Taiwans defences, despite them being already hardened against the electromagnetic pulse?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Roger says: August 5, 2022 at 7:14 pm

…is there anything else a bloke should know about Sydney?

Best avoided Friday 17 February – Sunday 5 March 2023.

Er.. yeah.
That’s Seven months away. Trip is next week. I should be outta town on time.

Is Mike Baird-time’s & the Stupid effing Liberal party’s business-killing pseudo-prohibition & early lockdown still in effect?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Eyriesays: August 5, 2022 at 7:24 pm

Wonder how long they’ll be calling Biloela home before the “big smoke” beckons? ..
They’ll be in Brissy or Sydney within a month.

They’re Sri Lankan.
Melbourne will be their concrete jungle of choice.

132andBush
132andBush
August 5, 2022 7:32 pm

calli says:
August 5, 2022 at 5:25 pm

Politics isn’t a matter of conviction any longer. Our politicians have degenerated into the type I saw back in the 80’s in PNG. Nothing and no one stands in the way of a quick buck and a grab at power and influence.

A nice little earner with a chance to suction up some more dosh by way of committees and advisories and any other scheme they can get their filthy mitts on. And a heads up on developments and changes to legislation – the ultimate in insider trading.

They don’t even need to be smart any more. How else to explain why a rabid bankrupt non-entity like Thorpe can wield power and ram our traditions, traditions that she has benefited from, back in our faces? Or Hanson Young, or Jackie Jackie? They are worse than useless, they are malignant Jezebels.

And the men are no better. Oily, supine, mendacious, lazy, opportunistic. They disgust me.

I’ll add to that outstanding passage.

The rot includes the hangers on in the private sphere. The already wealthy who hover like so many flies around a cow pat, getting the inside running and/or influence on decisions etc etc.

From what I’ve seen this parasitic swarm is also worse than ever, thanks mainly to the climate scam.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
August 5, 2022 7:32 pm

Sal, wear a skin tight powder blue suit and brown shoes with no socks. Man bun optional.

You don’t want to stand out from the normies in Sydney.

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 7:34 pm

Patrick Kellysays:
August 5, 2022 at 5:32 pm

That’s atrocious! .. as a, long time, OAP I’ve always thought the OAP untouchable by garnishee! .. bloody thing is low enuf to try and make ends meet without gummint bodies being able to access it .. FFS!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Pedro the Loafer says: August 5, 2022 at 7:32 pm

Sal, wear a skin tight powder blue suit and brown shoes with no socks. Man bun optional.
You don’t want to stand out from the normies in Sydney.

Pedro, you give wise advice.
I’ll write that one down, lest I misremember it on the day.

With your guidance I may surpass my previous high in Sydney, when the nature of my attire led a trio of security guards to assume I was a supporter of Nick Xenophon who’d strayed from a nearby Xenophon street demonstration.

Roger
Roger
August 5, 2022 7:42 pm

That’s atrocious! .. as a, long time, OAP I’ve always thought the OAP untouchable by garnishee!

Once the payment hits your account it is no longer considered inalienable.

132andBush
132andBush
August 5, 2022 7:46 pm

Unheard: What happened to Jordan Peterson

This bloke does not get how implacable the radical left is.
He still thinks they can be reasoned with, or there’s some middle ground to be found.

Doesn’t like that JP dug in over the Twatter ban and has hardened his overall approach.
He’s a sanctimonious fool who is more than ready to run up a white flag.

He’s the reason the left win.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 5, 2022 7:48 pm

Sydney WorldPride 2023

Hold onto your ankles.

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 7:49 pm

They’re Sri Lankan.
Melbourne will be their concrete jungle of choice.

Harris Park, next station to Parramatta, is a Sri Lankan enclave, as well ! ..

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 7:52 pm

5:46PM Friday, August 5th, 2022

Daily Telegraph

PM Anthony Albanese on the Indigenous Voice to parliament referendum

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has revealed exclusive details on his Voice to parliament plan – including the structure and if it will include reparations to Indigenous Australians.
Douglas Smithr
@smith_dougy
4 min read
August 5, 2022 – 6:08PM
43 comments

dailytelegraph.com.au08:50
Albanese delivers promise for Indigenous Voice

A Voice to parliament would be an advisory body only and would not involve reparations to Indigenous Australians, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says.

In an exclusive interview with The Advertiser’s Indigenous Affairs reporter Douglas Smith, the Prime Minister said he believed Australians were generous enough to support a referendum to enshrine the body in the constitution.

He said he sees the Voice as the first step in fulfilling the three steps of the Uluru Statement from the Heart.

The second step is a Makarrata Commission for truth telling and then Treaty, which would be an agreement between the government and Indigenous people.

Mr Albanese said the Voice was the first step in recognising Indigenous Australians in the “nation’s birth certificate” and without it the country was “diminished by not recognising our history”.

IS AUSTRALIA READY FOR AN INDIGENOUS VOICE TO PARLIAMENT?
YES
22 %
NO
78 %
1231 votes

“We should be proud that we have the oldest continuous civilisation,” he added.

When asked about when detail of how the Voice would work would emerge, Mr Albanese said the parliament would devise legislation to underpin it.

“It not seeking something that is above parliament,” he said.

“It is something that is subservient to the parliament.

“It will be just an advisory group.

“The parliament remains sovereign.”

It would not be a third chamber, he said, and would instead consult First Nations people.

“People should be consulted on matters that affect them, that’s just good manners,” he said.

Mr Albanese revealed he had already spoken to the AFL, NRL and Netball Australia as he builds a coalition to support a Voice.

When asked about calls for reparations for Indigenous Australians, Mr Albanese said there would be none.

“No, that’s not something that is part of the proposal,” he said.

No reparations – dream on Albo. Oh, and the oldest continuous civilization is NOT the Aborigine.

JC
JC
August 5, 2022 7:52 pm

The blog is so rooted with tech problems.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2022 7:54 pm

Barking Toad at 4:41.
No, the fire-walking debacle at the Adelaide Crows was years before.
But, yes, these “challenge camps” have been all the go in professional sport for a while, with a scaled back version being used in the corporate world.
Usually run by dubious snake-oil salesmen using simplistic homespun psychology.
I reckon this type of thing is now dead in the sporting world, and probably corporate as well.

Cassie of Sydney
August 5, 2022 7:54 pm

“132andBushsays:
August 5, 2022 at 7:46 pm”

He’s a sanctimonious fool who is more than ready to run up a white flag.

He’s the reason the left win.

Yep, David Fuller is a progressive lightweight. I’ve never liked him.

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 7:56 pm

One law for plod another for ordinary folk .. Someone should have been charged with manslaughter .. immediately .. not being investigated .. how on earth could, so called, TRAINED plod feel threatened into using weapons .. I know he had a knife but one leg, wheelchair bound & dementia .. given 3 minutes he’s of probably fallen asleep .. FFS!

A 93-year-old dementia sufferer with one leg died after police officers pepper-sprayed and shot him with a Taser inside his care home.
Tanya Jones, assistant chief constable of Sussex police, said: “We want to express our sympathies to the family and friends of Mr Burgess.
“We are providing every assistance to the IOPC to allow for a thorough investigation and for the family to receive the answers they need.”

Roger
Roger
August 5, 2022 7:58 pm

Yep, David Fuller is a progressive lightweight. I’ve never liked him.

Never heard of him, but the collarless shirt aroused my suspicions immediately.

Go on…call me superficial!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 5, 2022 7:58 pm

JCsays:
August 5, 2022 at 7:52 pm
The blog is so rooted with tech problems.

I wonder what the problems is?

Again iMac – macOS Monterey ver 12.5 Chrome/Firefox Adblock with and without VPN, Safari mo AdBlock all working with no problems whatsover

Roger
Roger
August 5, 2022 8:03 pm

I’ve had no problems today.

Weird.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2022 8:05 pm

I’ve had no problems today.

Nor I.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 5, 2022 8:07 pm

20 Percent Of The USAF’s B-2 Force Is Deployed ‘Down Under’

The B-2 deployment to Australia comes as the USAF ramps up its presence in the Indo-Pacific region amid growing tensions with China.

Recent imagery obtained by The War Zone from Planet Labs shows four USAF B-2 Spirit stealth bombers lined up at the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) Amberley airbase in Queensland. Considering the USAF currently only operates 20 B-2 bombers, the photo provides an unprecedented glimpse from space of one-fifth of the service’s entire B-2 fleet deployed ‘down under.’ That being said, it will likely become a very normal sight as the U.S. and Australia work more closely to deter China.

The photo highlights the growing presence of USAF B-2s in Australia in recent months – signaling the U.S.’ commitment to maintaining stability within the Indo-Pacific amid growing tensions with China. The four B-2s currently stationed at Amberley were sent from the 509th Bomb Wing at Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri, to support a Pacific Air Forces Bomber Task Force. Two B-2s arrived at Amberley on July 10, while another two B-2s arrived on July 12. While B-2s have visited Australia before, this is the first deployment of B-2s to the country as part of the Bomber Task Force (BTF), according to Janes. USAF and RAAF flyers have focused on “training missions and strategic deterrence missions” since the four USAF B-2s arrived at Amberley as part of the Enhanced Cooperation Initiative under the Force Posture Agreement between the U.S. and Australia.

The first pair of B-2s to arrive at Amberley will remain there “throughout the months of July and August and are planning to be involved in various Australian Defence Force (ADF) exercises such as Exercise ‘Koolendong’ and Exercise ‘Arnhem Thunder,’” an Australian Department of Defense spokesperson said. Exercise Koolendong 2022 wrapped up at the end of July.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
August 5, 2022 8:07 pm
132andBush
132andBush
August 5, 2022 8:10 pm

Never heard of him, but the collarless shirt aroused my suspicions immediately.

Go on…call me superficial!

No.
You’re very perceptive.

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 8:18 pm

OldOzziesays:
August 5, 2022 at 8:07 pm
20 Percent Of The USAF’s B-2 Force Is Deployed ‘Down Under’

Very depressing news, Tells me that they don’t have much.

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 8:21 pm

That’s atrocious! .. as a, long time, OAP I’ve always thought the OAP untouchable by garnishee!
Once the payment hits your account it is no longer considered inalienable.

i thought a “garnishee” was against a specific source of income not your bank account ..
shirley if it was used against a bank account all you’d do is empty the account and send any regular incoming monies elsewhere …… that’d be the “houso” way, anyway .. LOL!

JC
JC
August 5, 2022 8:21 pm

Cronkite

There’s a theory about Uncle George, which is pretty credible. In a recent recent interview , Uncle George was asked very clearly why he supported some of these wacky DA’s. His answer appeared to be totally incoherent strongly suggesting he had zero idea what was going on.

He’s 91.

The theory is that the money being distributed has a partial payback angle for the person or people responsible in the family office. They’re getting a cut. Sounds plausible.

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 8:24 pm

20 Percent Of The USAF’s B-2 Force Is Deployed ‘Down Under’
Very depressing news, Tells me that they don’t have much.

I read the 20% as part of the number stationed on Guam .. not the entire fleet …….

rosie
rosie
August 5, 2022 8:25 pm

Holidaying with family in Sri Lanka before Christmas.
I think they got a nice sum through go fund me and children need to meet their grandparents.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 5, 2022 8:28 pm

A Voice to parliament would be an advisory body only and would not involve reparations to Indigenous Australians, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says.

Then why does the referendum wording give parliament the ability to determine the “powers” of the “voice”?
Whether “powers” is intended to have its plain English meaning or its legal technical meaning (and tell me an activist Court wouldn’t choose the one which gives the “progressives” the most latitude), why does a pure “advisory” body need “powers”. If it said “such powers as are necessary for a purely advisory function” that mightn’t be an issue (though tell me an activist Court wouldn’t give that a wide operation), but why is it just open ended?

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 8:28 pm

20 Percent Of The USAF’s B-2 Force Is Deployed ‘Down Under’
Very depressing news, Tells me that they don’t have much.
I read the 20% as part of the number stationed on Guam .. not the entire fleet …….

I read a different article to OLD OZZIES which wasn’t as detailed .. I stand corrected!
tho surprised the USAAF would station that amount of a specific aircraft fleet on foreign soil

rosie
rosie
August 5, 2022 8:30 pm

I don’t know shatterzzz, you sound like you’re fit enough to work part-time if the pension isn’t sufficient for your needs.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 5, 2022 8:31 pm

20 Percent Of The USAF’s B-2 Force Is Deployed ‘Down Under’
Very depressing news, Tells me that they don’t have much.

They built 21 B-2’s. One was crashed on takeoff leaving 20. Knew a lady who worked on the wind tunnel when they were building it. Have a genuine Northrop model shop display model of one on the shelf above me .

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 5, 2022 8:32 pm

Best avoided Friday 17 February – Sunday 5 March 2023.

Er.. yeah.
That’s Seven months away. Trip is next week. I should be outta town on time.

ooops, sorry, should be specific : year 17 Feb 2022 to Sunday 5 Mar 2023.
I reckon you will survive. Take an umbrella.

Frank
Frank
August 5, 2022 8:33 pm

Never heard of him, but the collarless shirt aroused my suspicions immediately.

It says ashram to me.

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 8:33 pm

Holidaying with family in Sri Lanka before Christmas.
I think they got a nice sum through go fund me and children need to meet their grandparents.

Go Fund Me? .. didn’t they make a bundle out of compensation off the mug tax payers thru their various court trips .. the sort that the average, mug, Oz tax payer can’t afford .. FFS!

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 5, 2022 8:36 pm

The four B-2s currently stationed at Amberley were sent from the 509th Bomb Wing

The Hiroshima/Nagasaki attacks unit. I wonder if any of their aircraft is named Enola Gay or Bocks Car?

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 8:36 pm

shatterzzz

You deserve what you get in Harris Park but surely Wentworthville should have been immune, Alas not. Only five or six householders in my street would now be considered neighbours, Speakers of English are a rarity, Sad. The larger the influx the quicker the locals move out. We are empty nesters, so the following doesn’t matter to me but I will say that I wouldn’t be happy sending my, then, young boys to school with kids that were from a totally different culture and encouraged to speak a different language at home,

cohenite
August 5, 2022 8:36 pm

There’s a theory about Uncle George, which is pretty credible. In a recent recent interview , Uncle George was asked very clearly why he supported some of these wacky DA’s. His answer appeared to be totally incoherent strongly suggesting he had zero idea what was going on.

He’s not biden who has no brain or morality. Soros knows what he is doing. So does Gates and the other tech billionaires. They’re a combination of misanthropy and vanity. It’s not rocket science: spiteful kids with money and power because our pollies have caved, except for Trump, DeSantis, our Pauline. Whether they’re being used by the Frankfurt School/commies or vice-versa is irrelevant.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 5, 2022 8:39 pm

I have a feeling that Peta Credlin reads the Cat. Just a feeling.

ditto, which is why it is so very important that contributors keep adding their ideas and reporting back what their communities think about current trends.

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 8:41 pm

I don’t know shatterzzz, you sound like you’re fit enough to work part-time if the pension isn’t sufficient for your needs.
I’m fit enuf to work full-time + umpteen hours O/T but I promised myself after being conned into work-for-the-dole voluntary stuff in my early 60s ( after Cancer) and realising it was nothing more than free labour for the charities involved (Foodbank NSW & Salvos) that once I turned 65 that would be it ..
never again .. retirement is retirement as far as I’m concerned ..!

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 5, 2022 8:44 pm

A Voice to parliament would be an advisory body only and would not involve reparations to Indigenous Australians, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says.

Yeah, just like the Trade union Movement, and the Daffodil Growers Society, and all the other lobby groups, they are all advisory bodies not requiring reparitions, eh?

rosie
rosie
August 5, 2022 8:45 pm

I watched the German warmie lady, I think a 23 minute YouTube record for me.
Nuclear is too expensive and scary (except in France and other countries that have nuclear already) and one day uranium will run out, or perhaps not, depending on technology advances.
Wind and solar takes up too much space and simply doesn’t work well enough in countries which don’t get sufficient sun and wind (obviously).
Hydro also not suitable for everyone.
Coal and gas, probably, but we can’t really tell, could be killing millions of people with good old pollution (just guessing!), and of course carbon polluting bad, very bad.
If she wasn’t a warmie she’d admit in terms of reliability, cost (including the loss of thousands of acres no longer available for other purposes), footprint (yes we don’t need to rip out millions of carbon eating trees and plants for wind and solar farms) coal is best.
Was worth watching and I shared it, thank you.

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
August 5, 2022 8:47 pm

The Treasury’s answer to economic problems seems to be to increase
GDP (ie tax base) via increased immigration. This has been an ongoing policy under all governments. What does it do for Australians?

shatterzzz
August 5, 2022 8:48 pm

Only five or six householders in my street would now be considered neighbours, Speakers of English are a rarity, Sad.
I haven’t had anyone (can’t call ’em neighbours cos) living within 20 houses of me who use English as a 1st language (other than the kids) in 20 years! .. other than when my youngest visits my usual daily English use is, basically, “please & thank you” with shop assistants ….

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 5, 2022 8:49 pm

I reckon you will survive. Take an umbrella.

Hazmat suit may be the better option

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 5, 2022 8:51 pm

Patrick Kellysays:
August 5, 2022 at 8:18 pm
OldOzziesays:
August 5, 2022 at 8:07 pm
20 Percent Of The USAF’s B-2 Force Is Deployed ‘Down Under’

Very depressing news, Tells me that they don’t have much.

What advantage is it for USAF to have everybody at home in mainland US?

rickw
rickw
August 5, 2022 8:51 pm

What does it do for Australians?

Fuck All. The cities have been transformed into unliveable ant hills.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 5, 2022 8:52 pm

Patrick Kellysays:
August 5, 2022 at 8:47 pm
The Treasury’s answer to economic problems seems to be to increase
GDP (ie tax base) via increased immigration. This has been an ongoing policy under all governments. What does it do for Australians?

For the general public, SFA. For the “connected” ones, opportunities for grift and graft.

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