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Mount Aetna from Taormina, Thomas Cole, 1843

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Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 2:56 pm

Louisiana abortion law allows abortions in cases where “the unborn child is deemed to be .medically futile”

The list of medically futile exceptions includes both Acardia and Anencephaly.

The woman in the original myth could have gotten an abortion in Louisiana.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2022 2:57 pm

Lysander above said Arizona.

Makka
Makka
August 17, 2022 2:58 pm

Women must be forced against their will to obey rules set by religious extremists based on rough interpretations of Scripture written in a foreign language thousands of years ago.

mOron, your aggressive support for the killing of unborn children and thereby the onward sale of their little body parts is sickening. And you don’t have to be a religious nut to object to the horror of killing unborn kids. You just have to be sensible which we know you are certainly not.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 2:58 pm

That was the joke.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 2:58 pm

As usual its not that there arent opportunities available, its that they arent being parachuted exactly where they want to be screwing over blokes who may have decades more experience than them.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-17/female-fifo-workers-more-women-needed-improve-conditions/101339550
West Australian Minister for Mines Bill Johnston says gender quotas and targets should be more broadly adopted by the mining and resources industry.

“All the evidence globally is that gender quotas work because the idea of the quota is to change the culture of a business,” he said.

From her perspective, simple changes like ensuring there are sanitary bins, female bathrooms and female-only gyms and classes could make a big difference.

“Some sites are starting to get the hang of it … seeing more and more female-only gyms popping up on site is fantastic,” Ms Hitchens said.

“It makes a big difference knowing you can walk into a gym or other places and know it’s a safe space with other women around.”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 2:58 pm

Liz Cheney’s Concession Speech May Have Violated Campaign Finance Rules

Soon-to-be former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) may have violated Federal Election Commission (FEC) rules at her concession speech due to an in-kind donation she apparently received from a former TV executive who advises the January 6 Committee.

CNN’s Jeff Zeleny reported earlier Tuesday evening that Cheney’s anticipated losing speech would be set against a dramatic backdrop and filmed by James Goldston, the former ABC News president who is also advising the January 6 Committee.

Anyone who films a candidate may generally do so, under the protections of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. However, if the film crew is producing a video especially for a candidate, that counts as a service provided to the campaign.

Goldston’s services, including his crew, are probably worth tens of thousands of dollars. Moreover, Zeleny reported that Goldston is filming Cheney as a favor — as a “friend.” Hence his contribution would be an in-kind contribution to Cheney.

The FEC rules on in-kind contributions provide:

Moreover, the current limit on contributions is $2,900 per cycle.

Hence not only would Goldston’s services have to be reported to the FEC on Cheney’s campaign filings, but they also likely exceed the campaign finance limits. She could face an investigation and fines from the FEC if she is found to be in violation.

Lysander
Lysander
August 17, 2022 3:00 pm

Spot on Bern,.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2022 3:01 pm

“The first move of fascists over history, Lizzie, is to declare their opponents to be communists and thus treasonous non-citizens.”

And the first move of fascists over history, m0nty-fa, is to declare their opponents to be fascists and thus treasonous non-citizens.

But communists and fascists are feathers of the same (left) wing. Idiot.

Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 3:02 pm

One stark data point in Wyoming: Cheney is winning Teton County

The richest, most elitist county in Wyoming. I’m shocked!

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 3:02 pm

OldOzzie, laws/rules/conventions only apply to those who are running against corporate Democrats.
There have been green candidates booted off ballots in situations where there was a fear of them splitting the vote.
And even though AOC is a joke, the DNC tried to hobble her in her original primary against the bigwig Dem.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 17, 2022 3:03 pm

Teton County

Teton means tits in Spanish.
Liz Cheney is tits up in Wyoming.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 17, 2022 3:06 pm

I went to a significant commercial development worksite yesterday. An amazing development when finished. When I was in the site office signing in I saw the CFMEU representative wander thru. It was like seeing a fly land in your beer. You may or may not be able to get it out but either way you know it’s been there and defiled the place.

JC
JC
August 17, 2022 3:07 pm

Turtlehead, fuck off.

Tom
Tom
August 17, 2022 3:08 pm

I don’t like El Al, mainly because everyone always applauds when the plane lands. I find that offputting to say the least.

Barry, do you have any idea why Jews applaud when their El Al flight lands safely? FMD.

PS: Hijacking El Al planes was the founding strategy of anti-Israeli Arab terrorists. The last El Al hijacking was in 1968 because the Jews have taken care of the problem.

Makka
Makka
August 17, 2022 3:13 pm

do you have any idea why Jews applaud when their El Al flight lands safely?

It’s done elsewhere too, not only on El Al.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 3:14 pm

It’s done elsewhere too, not only on El Al.

When planes take off from Melbourne?

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 3:14 pm

I love El Al….flown it once. Safest airline in the world. The air hostesses are tough…trained in case there’s a problem from someone with one of those “legitimate grievances”. The cabin crew are locked in the cockpit for the trip, so as to prevent anyone from “visiting them”.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 3:15 pm

“Tomsays:
August 17, 2022 at 3:08 pm”

Thank you.

Makka
Makka
August 17, 2022 3:17 pm

When planes take off from Melbourne?

Not that I’ve noticed, but many years back taking off from KSA had Brits erupting in cheers after clearing Saudi airspace on BA. The pilot used to announce it. Break out the lager!

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 17, 2022 3:18 pm

CNN’s take on today’s Wyoming primary:

But shed no tears for Liz Cheney. Her star has never shone more brightly.
Cheney is the breakout star of this summer’s blockbuster TV series: the hearings of the House committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol. As the vice chair and one of only two Republicans with the mettle to serve on the committee, Cheney has been granted the lead in hearings that have methodically and dramatically revealed the role that Trump and his sidekicks played in the violent attempt to overturn the election of Joe Biden.

FMD

Link below if you want to look further. I’d advise against it.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/13/opinions/liz-cheney-wyoming-primary-january-6-committee-enda/index.html

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
August 17, 2022 3:21 pm

WA Mines Minister Bill Johnston wants gender quotas on mine sites.

I will be all for it when a little dolly bird can do a 12 hour shift operating a pushleg jumbo air drill.

m0nty
m0nty
August 17, 2022 3:21 pm

The list of medically futile exceptions includes both Acardia and Anencephaly.

The name of the condition affecting that woman’s baby was acrania.

Oh come on
Oh come on
August 17, 2022 3:23 pm

Apropos of nothing much, talk of El Al etc…file this one under ‘Pissing off people I like to see pissed off’ – describing tabbouleh, hummus, pita bread etc as Israeli foods works a treat.

Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 3:24 pm

The sequence of acrania anencephaly begins with acrania,

Barry
Barry
August 17, 2022 3:27 pm

Tom says:
August 17, 2022 at 3:08 pm

I don’t like El Al, mainly because everyone always applauds when the plane lands. I find that offputting to say the least.

Barry, do you have any idea why Jews applaud when their El Al flight lands safely? FMD.

PS: Hijacking El Al planes was the founding strategy of anti-Israeli Arab terrorists. The last El Al hijacking was in 1968 because the Jews have taken care of the problem.

I’ve also seen it on Garuda and Ethiopian Airlines, so I don’t think it’s specifically Jews…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 3:27 pm

A cool little story.
What a great outcome.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/16/teenager-saves-best-mate-bitten-by-shark-off-western-australias-mistaken-island
A Western Australian teenager is being congratulated for his quick thinking and bravery after jumping into action and saving his best mate after a shark attack on Monday.

Conner Shirley was spearfishing off Mistaken Island, south of Albany, on Monday with his friend Luke Pascoe, 17, who was bitten by what they believe was a great white shark.

Shirley acted fast, carrying Pascoe on his back across the rocks for 2km and making a tourniquet from his dive belt to stop the bleeding, before driving him to the hospital.

Oh come on
Oh come on
August 17, 2022 3:30 pm

Cheney is the breakout star of this summer’s blockbuster TV series: the hearings of the House committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.

Oh yeah, that’s a real blockbuster. Just like how CNN’s ratings are through the roof.

As the vice chair and one of only two Republicans with the mettle to serve on the committee

Mettle has nothing to do with it. They were handpicked by Nancy Pelosi because they would play the role assigned to them in this show trial masquerading as a committee.

Cheney’s done. No more Cheneys and Bushes in influential positions within the GOP. That’s a very good start.

Kneel
Kneel
August 17, 2022 3:31 pm

“Hardly raising to the level of dad jokes…”

Like…
I came into a lot of money recently – that’s why they fired me from my job at the bank.

Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 3:32 pm

As the vice chair and one of only two Republicans with the mettle to serve on the committee

Neither of which will be serving in Congress after 3 Jan. Wonder if there is a lesson there?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 17, 2022 3:35 pm

We (as in the passengers) applauded when our captain pilot turned up to take our flight to Brisbane from Sydney.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 17, 2022 3:35 pm

Without nipples breasts are pointless.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 3:42 pm

and what was worse, when Israel, desperate to save it’s men from certain death at the hands of the terrorist scum, was prevented from doing anything by the Germans. And what ensued? We all know, ALL the Israelis died.

Israel offered the use of their counter terrorist units – the Germans refused, saying their police were capable of carrying out the mission.

Tom
Tom
August 17, 2022 3:45 pm

In the 1980s, I remember Chinese passengers not only applauding, but STANDING and applauding as our Air China 737 burst through cloud into the sunshine at cruising altitude en route from Chengdu (Sichuan province) to Guangzhou (Canton). Chengdu is immersed in cloud six months of the year, locals reckon. Just as well they invented Sichuan tucker, which is unbeatable.

m0nty
m0nty
August 17, 2022 3:46 pm

What is the pressing need of the mother in this instance that would justify deliberately killing the child?

The “child” has no functioning brain. It feels no pain because there is no brain to register it. It is never going to become a human person with cognitive abilities. It will die within minutes of being born.

Treating it as on the same legal status as the mother is completely ludicrous. But that is what your religious ideology dictates.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 17, 2022 3:48 pm

The name of the condition afflicting munty is fat fuck leftism. No known cure. Common as dog shit but not as useful.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 3:52 pm

Monty.
Please check the actual definition of the medical condition claimed.

Can vary from having a brain (damaged) to nothing.
Id hate to see you accused of just making shit up which is easily googled or anything.
It would spoil your reputation as an ace researcher and rock ribbed reliable source of factual and up to date information, valued for its accuracy.

If Montys mum had known he was going to grow into a landwhale who went online touting for publicly funded baby mincing (up to the point of birth) would that have been enough for her to have terminated him?

m0nty
m0nty
August 17, 2022 3:57 pm

I suspect the reason the doctors wouldn’t give the Louisiana woman an abortion is because the baby was viable right up to birth, even though it was guaranteed to die soon after.

Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 3:57 pm

Alaska numbers are in

Alaska has moved to a ‘best 4 go to the finals’ sort of primary so they seem a bit anti-climax but Palin advances and Tshibaka is giving RINO Murkowski a close race which bodes well for Nov.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 3:58 pm

SUPER GLUE WAS INVENTED BY ACCIDENT, TWICE

Super Glue, also known as cyanoacrylate, was originally discovered in 1942 by Dr. Harry Coover, who by the way died last month on March 26th, 2011. Coover was attempting to make clear plastic gun sights to be put on guns used by Allied soldiers in WWII. One particular formulation he came up with didn’t work well for gun sights, but worked fantastically as an extremely quick bonding adhesive. Surprisingly, despite the commercial potential of such a product, Coover abandoned that formulation completely as it obviously wasn’t suitable for his current project, being too sticky.

Nine years later, in 1951, now working at Eastman Kodak, Dr. Coover was the supervisor of a project looking at developing a heat resistant acrylate polymer for jet canopies. Fred Joyner was working on that project and at one point used the rediscovered Super Glue and tested it by spreading ethyl cyanoacrylate between a pair of refractometer prisms. To his surprise, the prisms became stuck very solidly together. This time, Coover did not abandoned the cyanoacrylate (Super Glue), rather, he realized the great potential of a product that would quickly bond to a variety of materials and only needed a little water to activate, which generally is provided in the materials to be bonded themselves.

Super Glue was finally put on the market in 1958 by Eastman Kodak and was called the slightly less catchy name of “Eastman #910”, though they later re-named it “Super Glue”. Eastman #910 was soon licensed to Loctite who then re-branded it again to a somewhat uninspired name of “Loctite Quick Set 404”.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 4:01 pm

“Israel offered the use of their counter terrorist units – the Germans refused, saying their police were capable of carrying out the mission.”

Yep.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 17, 2022 4:01 pm

CNN’s take on today’s Wyoming primary:
But shed no tears for Liz Cheney. Her star has never shone more brightly.

Makes sense. A supernova often collapses into a black hole.
And black holes suck a lot.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 4:03 pm
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 17, 2022 4:04 pm

The first move of fascists over history, Lizzie, is to declare their opponents to be communists and thus treasonous non-citizens.

I don’t care for the idea of killing ppl who disagree with me. I prefer to argue with them, to present facts and reason. It has worked well in the West for a long time. But when my opponents refuse to debate, shut down discussion, rely on force to get their way, why, force it must be.

So m0nty, it’s going to be the Pinochet solution for you, because it’s all you’ve left us. HoP time coming up. I really don’t care for it, but your tribe has ruled out the peaceful options.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 17, 2022 4:08 pm

I don’t like El Al, mainly because everyone always applauds when the plane lands. I find that offputting to say the least.

The Greeks also do this regardless of the airline branding.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 4:10 pm

Israel offered the use of their counter terrorist units – the Germans refused, saying their police were capable of carrying out the mission.”

Yep.

You would know how, as part of “Operation Wrath of God” – the retribution wreaked by Israel – Israeli commandos, commanded by one Ehud Barak – raided PFLP Headquarters in Beirut? They were disguised as hippies – Barak was alleged to have been wearing “falsies”, and a “Dolly Parton” wig?

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 17, 2022 4:10 pm

I don’t care for the idea of killing ppl who disagree with me. I prefer to argue with them, to present facts and reason.
People is one thing Dr BG. We’re talking communists here.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 17, 2022 4:11 pm

“The Sirius Cybernetics Corporation were a mindless bunch of jerks who were first up against the wall when the revolution came.”
Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 17, 2022 4:12 pm

Conner Shirley was spearfishing off Mistaken Island, south of Albany, on Monday with his friend Luke Pascoe, 17, who was bitten by what they believe was a great white shark

Shirley that shark couldn’t have been serious.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 17, 2022 4:13 pm

On arriving at the Cafe at the End of The Universe and finding a party going on:
“Is this the Afterlife? Looks more like an Apres Vie.”
Hitchhiker’s Guide again.

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 4:13 pm

I don’t like El Al, mainly because everyone always applauds when the plane lands. I find that offputting to say the least.

Go Air Sinai from Cairo. Unmarked, unannounced on the airport boards, the planes sit on the runway awaiting their passengers. Luggage is inspected and those entering the plane must first point to their luggage for loading.

The planes apparently never leave to schedule, but in a window.

Always a treat to finally get to Tel Aviv without an STA calling card.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 17, 2022 4:14 pm

“Life? Don’t talk to me about Life!”
Marvin the android.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 4:15 pm

“You would know how, as part of “Operation Wrath of God” – the retribution wreaked by Israel – Israeli commandos, commanded by one Ehud Barak – raided PFLP Headquarters in Beirut? They were disguised as hippies – Barak was alleged to have been wearing “falsies”, and a “Dolly Parton” wig?”

I do indeed, many years ago I met Ehud Barak when he was here in Oz. Mossad managed to plant an English woman in Beirut who conducted surveillance on the various PLO operatives for months Barak dressed as a woman…..they landed in the darkness of night.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 17, 2022 4:16 pm

Back in the Soviet era, internal flight planes were set up like train carriages, with fixed tables!

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 4:17 pm

The Greeks also do this regardless of the airline branding.

And I now know why. Olympic landing on Crete – so hard it left parts of the plane on the runway.

Of course we clapped. 😀

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 4:19 pm

You sound depressed, Anchor.

Have a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster and give your bath towel a hug.

Makka
Makka
August 17, 2022 4:20 pm

Back in the Soviet era, internal flight planes were set up like train carriages, with fixed tables!

And the hosties were all graduates of the Moscow School of Customer Service. Not much has changed.

local oaf
August 17, 2022 4:21 pm

I’ve got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left side 🙁

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 4:23 pm

Media is back to anonymous, one-source stories on Trump that we can’t trust anymore

David Marcus
New York Post

It feels like old times. In the wake of the FBI raid on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club, the mainstream media are in a feeding frenzy the likes of which we haven’t seen since he exited the White House. The usual suspects, like The New York Times and Washington Post, which spent the four years of Trump’s presidency consistently and spectacularly beclowning themselves, are at it again. Dare we say that it has “all the hallmarks” of media incompetence?

Take The Washington Post: Using its signature anonymous single-source style, it broke the alleged news that Trump was in possession of documents “related to nuclear weapons.” What exactly does that mean? Honestly, based on Post’s coverage of Russiagate, when so many “bombshells” fizzled when the details emerged, you have to wonder if it’s the White House pastry chef’s recipe for nuclear chocolate cake.

The Times, meanwhile, informs us that Trump sought to send a secret message to Attorney General Merrick Garland, this according to — wait for it — “a person familiar with the exchange.” A person. This is basically the journalistic equivalent of “My cousin’s girlfriend knows a guy.”

Could these juicy details rushed into print turn out to be true? Maybe. Do the American people have good reason to believe they aren’t true given the recent track record of the liberal press? Absolutely.

After all, we watched these selfsame media treat the farcical Steele dossier like it was the fifth gospel and spend years clinging to the Russian-collusion hoax. We watched them not only bury the Hunter Biden laptop story just days before the 2020 election but smear the journalists who broke that very real story as dupes promoting Russian disinformation.

This print first, ask questions later approach is why Gallup found a record-low 16% of Americans have “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in newspapers and just 11% do in TV news. There are probably communicable diseases that are more popular than the news media at this point. Back in 2014, before Trump broke the brains and standards of everyone with a journalism-school degree, both those questions had media trust about 10 points higher.

Kneel
Kneel
August 17, 2022 4:24 pm

“So now you’ll only be fatally electrocuted for 4½ seconds.”

You get a choice if it catches fire – wait 5 seconds and hope you don’t get burnt or poisoned, or get out immediately and risk electrocution.
But you can’t choose an ICE car – at least then you’d have the choice between killing an African baby in 100 years because climate change, instead of killing one now because poisoned or disfigured by mining crap to make you feel good.
‘Cause, you know, 100 years ago they already knew the dangers of Nigerian internet scams, and they did nothing, so here we are. You can do better, right? For the kids – won’t you think of the kids? The ones going to be born in 100 years are so much more important than the ones trying to survive now. Because you are evil, having no choice in being born in a first world country. And being evil – you should feel guilty about that. It’s not Kim Jong Il’s fault, or Xi’s fault, or even Vlad’s fault – it’s yours. For being born “rich”. Bastard. How dare you?

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 17, 2022 4:27 pm

Sky News a minute ago:
Liz Cheney has an impeccable record of voting on gun rights!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 4:31 pm

Anchor Whatsays:
August 17, 2022 at 4:14 pm
“Life? Don’t talk to me about Life!”
Marvin the android.

“42”

The answer to life, the universe, and everything

Mathematics researcher Drew Sutherland helps solve decades-old sum-of-three-cubes puzzle, with help from “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.”

A team led by Andrew Sutherland of MIT and Andrew Booker of Bristol University has solved the final piece of a famous 65-year old math puzzle with an answer for the most elusive number of all: 42.

The number 42 is especially significant to fans of science fiction novelist Douglas Adams’ “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy,” because that number 42 is the answer given by a supercomputer to “the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.”

Booker also wanted to know the answer to 42. That is, are there three cubes whose sum is 42?

P
P
August 17, 2022 4:33 pm

OldOzziesays:
August 17, 2022 at 4:03 pm

Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr

Bye bye @Liz_Cheney. On the bright side at least you won’t have to pretend to be from Wyoming anymore.

Why, oh why, did I ever lose Wyoming?
Why, oh why, did I ever have to go?
Tune:
(1947) – Dinah Shore

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
August 17, 2022 4:33 pm

So we supposedly need diversity taskforces and strategies for the mining industry. But the wharfies get a clause in an industrial agreement stipulating that 70 per cent of new employees must be family or friends of the existing workforce and our army of diversity champions looks the other way.

Speaking of diversity, is anyone taking donations for a rainbow jersey for that champion of diversity Brett Finch?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 17, 2022 4:34 pm

Shirley that shark couldn’t have been serious.

They were at the wrong island, apparently.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 4:34 pm

From the critic.

Looks like their constitution was as rubbery as ours one it was exposed to a bit of creative legalese
https://thecritic.co.uk/canadas-voyage-down-the-slippery-slope/
After the initial 2015 decision, the then newly elected Liberal government passed legislation that did attempt to place strict boundaries around assisted suicide eligibility. This legislation would have restricted access to mentally competent adults with “enduring and intolerable suffering” and in cases where natural death is “reasonably foreseeable”. It also mandated a ten day reflection period. But this legislation, specifically the notion that death must be reasonably foreseeable, was struck down by a Quebec court in 2017 as too restrictive, and Canada now has a “medical assistance in dying” (ominously referred to as MAID) in which competent adults whose deaths are not reasonably foreseeable are eligible if they have a “grievous and irremediable medical condition”. Next year, Canada will begin allowing mentally ill individuals to qualify for assisted suicide under this formulation, and it is likely that this autumn the government will receive a parliamentary report recommending that children deemed competent (“mature minors”) should also be eligible.

But remember, no slippery slopes, they are a fallacy.

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 4:37 pm

The problem with “42” – it might have been the answer, but no one knew the question.

Always ask the right question. 😀

m0nty
m0nty
August 17, 2022 4:38 pm

Aside from what mole just wrote, why would it be ‘ludicrous’ to treat the child with respect until it died and not as something to be discarded and as a inconvenience?

You are treating the mother with no respect, and treating her body as a convenience.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
August 17, 2022 4:43 pm

Calli. From the ever reliable source of Wiki.

In their travels, Arthur comes to learn that the Earth was actually a giant supercomputer, created by another supercomputer, Deep Thought. Deep Thought had been built by its creators to give the answer to the “Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything”, which, after eons of calculations, was given simply as “42”.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 4:48 pm

calli – 42 = (-80538738812075974)^3 + 80435758145817515^3 + 12602123297335631^3

but Sutherland and Booker ran the computations over several months, but the final successful run was completed in just a few weeks. When the email from Charity Engine arrived, it provided the first solution to x3+y3+z3=42:

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 4:51 pm

14mins of the corporate media covering for Liz Cheney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP30okjpCko

It’s not working !!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 4:52 pm

NYT Cuts Ties With Reporter Who Called For ‘Killing,’ ‘Burning’ Jews ‘Like What Hitler Did’

The New York Times has cut ties with a fixer in the Gaza Strip after his Facebook posts calling Jews “the children of dogs” and expressing support for the late Nazi tyrant Adolf Hitler resurfaced.

Fady Hanona has worked with multiple major news outlets to aid their reporting on the Arab-Israeli conflict. Hanona was listed as a contributor in six of the NYT’s eight stories written on the latest conflagration between Israel and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) terror group in the Gaza Strip.

The NYT apparently ended its relationship with Hanona on Friday, according to The Times Of Israel. The fixer has a history of making anti-Semitic statements, and the media watchdog Honest Reporting uncovered a slew of Hanona’s Facebook posts in which he called for “killing” and “burning” Jews “like Hitler did,” according to translations of the posts preserved by Honest Reporting. The date of the post is unclear.

m0nty
m0nty
August 17, 2022 4:52 pm

Respect doesn’t extend to allowing a parent to murder their own children

You are always, forever begging the question.

Fetal personhood is not the law.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 4:53 pm

Putin revives Mother Heroine award for women who have ten children
Marc Bennetts
Tuesday August 16 2022, 12.20pm BST, The Times
Global politics
A Soviet-era poster proclaiming “Glory to the mother heroine”. The title has been revived by President Putin

President Putin has revived a Soviet-era award for women who have ten or more children as Russia faces a demographic crisis that has been exacerbated by the war in Ukraine.

Joseph Stalin established the “Mother Heroine” title in 1944 to encourage large families after the death of tens of millions of Soviet citizens during the Second World War. More than 400,000 women received the award before it was scrapped after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

Under Putin’s decree, women will get a one-off payment of one million roubles (£13,500) after their tenth child has reached its first birthday, on the condition that the other nine children are still alive. They will also receive Mother Heroine gold medals decorated with the Russian flag and the country’s coat of arms.

Putin also announced that recipients of the Parental Glory award, created in 2008 for families with seven or more children, would receive increased payments amounting to 700,000 roubles (£9,500). Some Kremlin critics accused Putin of encouraging women to produce “cannon fodder” for the Russian army.

“As a rule, you can really rely on those who were brought up in a large family. They will not let down a friend, or colleagues, or their motherland,” Putin said.

Putin is the youngest of three brothers and the only one to survive childhood. His eldest brother, Albert, died in infancy in the 1930s and his other brother, Viktor, died in 1942, reportedly of starvation and diphtheria, during the siege of Leningrad.

The Russian president has acknowledged fathering two daughters with his former wife, Lyudmila. However, he is also widely believed to have other children with Alina Kabaeva, an ex-Olympic gymnast, and Svetlana Krivonogikh, a cleaner who became massively wealthy after a reported affair with Putin during his first term as president.

The move comes after Russia’s state statistics service warned that the country’s population of 144 million could fall to about 132 million in the next two decades. It also said that the number of people living in Russia had fallen by 380,000 between January and June. The United Nations has predicted that in the worst-case scenario Russia’s population could slump to just 83 million by 2100.

Tens of thousands of young Russians are thought to have died in Ukraine since Putin ordered an invasion in February. The average age of those killed is thought to be just 21. In addition to military casualties, hundreds of thousands of people, including academics, journalists and IT specialists, have emigrated from Russia since the start of the war.

Putin’s decree is part of a wider Kremlin policy of promoting what it portrays as “traditional values”. A group of pro-Putin MPs recently put forward legislation that would outlaw any public discussion of a child-free lifestyle, something they said was as harmful for Russia’s future as drug abuse, suicide and political extremism. The draft law would also prohibit any public discussion of homosexuality.

Any Kittehs up for this one?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 17, 2022 5:05 pm

Great opening by Tucker. Jaw-dropping corruption involving FBI and D0J. Just incredible.

It’d be nice if they could do the CIA, DHS, FDA, EPA, and of course the IRS.
They’re just as evil. And if anyone still believes the CIA in particular keeps to its supposed international brief they’ve got rocks in their head.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 17, 2022 5:07 pm

What a ridiculous riposte.

He could write it at the bottom of contracts and there is not a court in the land that would not hold it as at least as characteristically defining as a signature.

m0nty
m0nty
August 17, 2022 5:08 pm

What a ridiculous riposte.

Not at all. It strikes at the heart of the matter. Your movement’s ultimate goal is fetal personhood, a legal unicorn which if enshrined in law would create through implication all sort of restrictions of the freedom of women, turning them into mere vessels for procreation.

I mean, women couldn’t be allowed to drink alcohol because they might have gotten pregnant four weeks ago and not know it yet, thus they would be harming the full person growing inside them. Same for anything that is potentially harmful to a fetus. IVF and birth control would probably also become illegal.

All of your arguments are premised on fetal personhood. That is why you refer to the “child” instead of fetus. Full handmaiden stuff, that’s your end game.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Farmer Gez says: August 17, 2022 at 3:03 pm

Teton County

Teton means tits in Spanish.
Liz Cheney is tits up in Wyoming.

The Spanish meaning aside, that is the meaning in French, the language that particular “Teton” was named by early French fur trappers.

Delta A
Delta A
August 17, 2022 5:11 pm

The (Vogon) ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don’t.

My favourite line. Superb irony.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2022 5:14 pm

Edge cases like ancephaly highlight the intransigence and illogic of the conservative position.

Using such “edge cases” to obtain an unlimited “right” to abortion, at any time until birth, for any reason highlights the intransigence and illogic of the “liberal” position. Remember that Roe vs Wade originally provided for abortion only in the first trimester. The creeping tactics of the pro-aborts eventually extended it to an aborted baby that Kermit Gosnells described as “big enough to walk to the bus stop with me”.

Provide a guarantee that only the “edge cases” will be included, then maybe some movement might happen, but as long as the intransigent pro-aborts want and push for an unlimited “right”, there will be resistance.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
August 17, 2022 5:15 pm

Viktoriastan is completely knackered. All Conservatives evacuate now!

https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/08/matthew-guy-is-literally-history/

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 5:15 pm

I’ve seen the Grand Tetons. My conclusion is that the trappers were away from civilisation waaaaay too long.

C.L.
C.L.
August 17, 2022 5:17 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 5:20 pm

Full handmaiden stuff, that’s your end game.

be gentle with monty.
Xies just binge watched the handmaidens tale again..

I loved the sections with the filth mines… It was literally Monty Python stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9ztV8_uS_o

Take a heart of stone not to laugh.

Speedbox
August 17, 2022 5:20 pm

Makka says:
August 17, 2022 at 3:13 pm
do you have any idea why Jews applaud when their El Al flight lands safely?
It’s done elsewhere too, not only on El Al.

Indeed. In Russia or Ukraine, the passengers applaud on landing. Not universal, but fairly common.

I also find it a bit off-putting but would add there is some justification if you have ever flown on a small domestic airline in Russia/Ukraine.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2022 5:21 pm

m0ntysays:
August 17, 2022 at 2:53 pm
It must be very inconvenient to come up against someone who isn’t an idiotic cardboard cutout.

There are a lot of those here, calli.

Mirror, mirror, on the wall who’s the most cardboard cut-out of all? Why, it’s m-0nty-fa, of course.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 17, 2022 5:21 pm

m0ntysays:
August 17, 2022 at 4:52 pm
[Respect doesn’t extend to allowing a parent to murder their own children]

You are always, forever begging the question.

Fetal personhood is not the law.

Where, and for what purpose?
Aren’t anti-abortion laws per se based on just such a recognition of foetal personhood?

And that’s not some kind of bizarre outlier in the law in any case. To give just one example, a child en ventre sa mere counts as a “life in being” for the purpose of the rule against perpetuities in most jurisdictions.

Pro tip m0nty – refrain from dogmatic unqualified generalities on subjects about which you are clearly vastly ignorant.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 17, 2022 5:29 pm

Stupid People News (the NT News):

A SECOND-YEAR nursing student is trying desperately to find two laptops that went missing after the store where they were being repaired stopped trading.

Leading Edge Computers closed its doors for the last time in April, with some customers notified by email of the store’s impending shutdown.

Leading Edge Computers, you selfish pricks.

However Faith Abio wants the two laptops she dropped at the store in March before travelling to Uganda for two months. She didn’t return to the Territory until May, a month after Leading Edge had pulled the pin.

Two. Months.

One of the laptops belonged to a deceased uncle and had been taken to Leading Edge to have a password change.

The other belonged to her and contained study notes relating to her nursing degree, personal images, music, assorted documents

Aaaand…..

and information relating to disability services through the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

There we go. Do they not have this ‘information’ already on teh webs somewhere? Starting to wonder who actually owned these things in the first place.

“My uncle’s laptop was supposed to be going to Uganda for his son to have so it’s really bitterly disappointing.”

Then why didn’t you take it with you?

“It’s unacceptable that this business has been able to do this and frustrating not to have a direct number to contact the owner. He shouldn’t be treating people this way.”

It’s unacceptable the business has been able to do what? Shut down? Lady, if you want to leave two laptops with someone and then go to the other side of the world for two months – well, perhaps you had too much….. Faith.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 5:29 pm

Yowser !

U.K. Inflation Tops 10%, Underlining Gloomy Outlook for Europe

U.K. inflation topped 10%, the highest rate among the G-7 countries, and is projected to rise further by the end of the year.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2022 5:30 pm

m0nty-fa

I suspect the reason the doctors wouldn’t give the Louisiana woman an abortion …

“Suspect”, that’s a solid reason right there. If the King of Wrongology “suspects” something, it is guaranteed to be wrong.

Winston Smith
August 17, 2022 5:33 pm

JC:

Turtlehead, fuck off.

What have I done to raise your ire today, JC?
(Apart from just existing?)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 5:34 pm

WA Premier defends decision to attend $1000 wine tasting dinner at property developer’s home
Angie RaphaelNCA NewsWire
Wed, 17 August 2022 2:23PM

West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has defended his decision to attend a private dinner at the home of a major property developer, where they drank a $1000 bottle of wine.

Mr McGowan told reporters state leaders often attend events hosted by prominent people, and he could not “help if there is some wine that is served there that is expensive”.

The Penfolds Grange wine tasting dinner was held at the Peppermint Grove mansion of property developer Nigel Satterley on Friday night.

Mr McGowan said it was not a political fundraiser and noted he was usually out four or five times per week attending various events in his role as the Premier.

“It’s just standard practice for people who are premiers or prime ministers or chief ministers or ministers to go out to dinners, to go to events, to go to functions and do these sorts of things,” he said.

“I went and had dinner with a group of business people, some of whom are very prominent investors in WA. I work hard to encourage people to invest in WA all the time.”

Indolent
Indolent
August 17, 2022 5:34 pm
Roger
Roger
August 17, 2022 5:35 pm

Yowser !

U.K. Inflation Tops 10%, Underlining Gloomy Outlook for Europe

Just wait until the blackouts start rolling.

It’s going to be a northern winter of discontent.

Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 5:37 pm

Fetal personhood is not the law.

State Fetal Homicide Laws

“Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide laws: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin. At least 29 states have fetal homicide laws that apply to the earliest stages of pregnancy ”

“Suspect will face 2 counts of murder for the killing of pregnant woman in Minneapolis”

“Man Charged With Two Counts Of Homicide For Killing The Woman Pregnant With His Child”

“Scott Peterson, her widower, is being charged both with Laci’s slaying, and the slaying of their unborn son, Connor, because California is one of 29 states with so-called fetal homicide laws.”

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2022 5:37 pm

callisays:
August 17, 2022 at 4:17 pm
The Greeks also do this regardless of the airline branding.

And I now know why. Olympic landing on Crete – so hard it left parts of the plane on the runway.

Of course we clapped. ?

I once had to fly Olympic from Singapore to London, via Athens and Nicosia. Apart from the feel-up by Greek police in Athens, the most memorable moment was when the pilot dropped the landing gear approaching Heathrow. (Lowered doesn’t convey the sense of what happened.) The internal air pressure dropped by about 1.5 psi, as every passenger sucked in a deep breath.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2022 5:37 pm

Lysander, Bern, sorry for not seeing the ‘joke’ re Arizona. I’m not a dimwit, I was on my phone out and about and came late to this arvo’s party. Didn’t read backthread, that’s too difficult on the move when checking in for an odd moment but had briefly checked into Fox for news on Cheyney.

JC
JC
August 17, 2022 5:39 pm

The Valley of Greta as in Greta Thumbnail. Very instructive. The gerbil warming fanatics won’t necessarily change their views even if a decent percentage of the global population perishes as a result of this madness.

Cronkite always says to never give this scum an inch. He got that from me, and of course he’s right.

The Valley of Greta

In April 1856, a young girl from the Xhosa tribe named Nongqawuse walked with a friend to the banks of the Gxarha River, near the Indian Ocean. This was in an area that is now the Eastern Cape of South Africa. The two girls met two men who claimed to be ancestor spirits bringing a message from their ancestors: The Xhosa dead will rise up and lead the people into an era of freedom and prosperity.

In order for this to happen, the strangers explained, the Xhosa people would have to abandon all of their old ways. They specifically said that witchcraft, sorcery, and sexual promiscuity had to be ended. The Xhosa people were to dedicate their time to building new pens for cattle and new fields for the new crops that would suddenly spring forth with the arrival of their spirit ancestors.

There was one catch to this. The Xhosa were a people who depended primarily on cattle and the growing of crops to feed their cattle. The prophecy passed to Nongqawuse stipulated that the new era of prosperity would only come when the Xhosa killed all of their cattle and destroyed the means with which to raise them. This great leap of faith is what would usher in the triumph of their people.
“The Xhosa example is a good reminder that when powerful people come to believe insane things, they will try to impose that insanity on their people.”

Incredibly, the Xhosa people, upon hearing this tale from Nongqawuse and her friend, embarked on a campaign of killing their cattle. Not everyone was convinced that this was the right thing to do, but many accepted the prophecy, mostly because important members of the tribe had said they accepted it. This validation from people in authority was enough to convince them the prophecy was real.

Nongqawuse predicted that the prophecy would be fulfilled on Feb. 18, 1857, when the sun would turn red. This did not happen, so Chief Sarili went to the river to visit with the girls and came back convinced they got the date wrong. The prophecy would come true in eight days, so the people had better get cracking on the cattle killing in order to be ready for the great transition to the glorious future.

The result of this lunacy was that 80 percent of the population died from the subsequent famine caused by the cattle killing. It seems incredible to modern people that a population would try to commit suicide because a teenage girl claimed she saw the future, but we live in an age in which Greta Thunberg is treated like a prophet by the environmental movement. She is our Nongqawuse.

The general consensus as to why this happened is that the Xhosa people were under a great deal of pressure from other tribes as well as the white man. The Boers and the British were a great technological challenge, but they also brought new disease, like the “lung sickness” that affected Xhosa cattle. For a primitive people, it surely must have seemed like they were cursed in some way.

That was what made Nongqawuse possible. She gave the men in charge of her people something they desperately wanted to hear. Their status and authority were under pressure, as they had no answers for the challenges they faced. Nongqawuse provided a way to resolve those fears and anxieties. The prophecy gave the leaders purpose and the authority to compel their people to act on the prophecy.

This provides some insight into what is going on with the political elites of the West and their embrace of the cult of climate change. Consider the flamboyant Secretary of Transportation for the Biden administration, Pete Buttigieg. He spends his days preaching about electric cars and how they will free us from the shackles of fossil fuels, even though he has no idea how this will work or if it can work.

It is not even clear that he believes in Gaia or that she is vexed at your lawnmower, but believing the climate-change prophecies solves a problem for him. When you are sure Gaia is angry at Western man for his racism and lawnmowers, but you are impotent to do anything about it, believing in the mysteries of electric cars is a nice escape. Instead of being a meaningless placeholder in government, Pete Buttigieg is a bringer of hope.

You get a whiff of this from European leaders when they talk about the looming natural-gas shortage this winter. They often talk about it as a necessary step in the transition to what they call renewable energy, a thing that does not exist. It is as if they are stimulated at the thought of people huddled in the dark, getting what heat they can from burning the last of their furniture.

The job of the green apparatchik in the E.U. is to persuade the people to overcome their fear of cold showers in winter. They imagine themselves one day on those Soviet-style posters, striking a heroic pose as they lead their people away from the land of smokestacks and warm houses to the glorious future. What lies ahead does not matter as the crusade gives the dreary functionaries a reason to live.

If the only result of this strange cult that has gripped so many of the ruling class resulted in nothing more than weird public statements, no one need care. The Xhosa example is a good reminder that when powerful people come to believe insane things, they will try to impose that insanity on their people. This is what we are seeing in the West as the greens try to roll back the last three centuries of technological progress.

Interestingly, the failure of the prophecies did not wake the Xhosa people up to the fraud that was being perpetrated on them by their leaders. When the dates came and went, the believers simply turned on the nonbelievers, blaming their lack of faith for the prophecies not being fulfilled. Again, this is something we see with the environmental movements in the West. Your lack of faith is the real problem.

The example of the Xhosa is something to keep in mind as we see the greens implement their agenda. The collapse of Sri Lanka due to the embrace of green agriculture, which collapsed the economy, does not register. The revolt of Dutch farmers over what is literally a cattle-killing scheme is not causing anyone in charge to reconsider their plans. For the zealots, none of this matters.

This is what happens when fanatics are put in charge. They have no internal mechanism to reconsider their fanaticism, so they go as far as reality will let them and then they are destroyed. When the fanatics are put in charge of a society, they take that society with them into the abyss of their fanaticism. The suffering we see coming from green policies is, to the believers, proof that the policies are working.

One final lesson from the Xhosa is that after the death of 80 percent of their people, the remainder did not turn on the remaining believers. In fact, the location of the prophecy is still called the Valley of Nongqawuse. The skeptics were called “the stingy ones” for their unwillingness to sacrifice their cattle to the cause. It is not hard to imagine something similar in the ruins of the West. Those who warned about the dangers will be remembered as the deniers by the people in the Valley of Greta.

Dot
Dot
August 17, 2022 5:41 pm

Not at all. It strikes at the heart of the matter. Your movement’s ultimate goal is fetal personhood, a legal unicorn which if enshrined in law would create through implication all sort of restrictions of the freedom of women, turning them into mere vessels for procreation.

So the world was the Handmaid’s Tale until the 1970s?

That’s seriously loopy stuff.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2022 5:45 pm

dover0beachsays:
August 17, 2022 at 5:06 pm
Joel Pollak
@joelpollak
·
Aug 16
They reject nearly 30% of the signatures to recall a radical Democrat, then expect people to believe < 1% of mail-in ballots in a general election are invalid.
Quote Tweet

Bill Melugin
@BillFOXLA
· Aug 16
BREAKING: The effort to recall L.A. DA @GeorgeGascon has FAILED to qualify for the ballot. The Registrar-Recorders office announced only 520,050 of the 715k+ signatures it collected were valid. It needed 566,857. Details below. @FoxNews

This is nothing less than the exercise of raw power. Hear anyone in the media talking about voter suppression?

m0nty-fa tends to get very excited about any alleged Republican attempts at “voter suppression”. Things like photo ID and signature checking.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2022 5:45 pm

That is because the Republicans really are crooks, and the law enforcement officers who are working on the case are not communists hellbent on destroying the country.

M0nty, where on earth have you been for the past few years? Watching the ABC, reading the SMH, and believing in unicorns, that’s where. Lovely kindly helpful Democrats all working for a good cause, and Trump devil-orange-man bad. There is no point my arguing with your wilful ignorance. The institutional deep swamp’s capture of the FBI is something you need to ponder on. Along with all of the other Democrat ‘get-Trump’ so far unsuccessful fabrications. That. Is. Not. Democracy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 17, 2022 5:45 pm

West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has defended his decision to attend a private dinner at the home of a major property developer, where they drank a $1000 bottle of wine.

O’Farrell was forced to resign after drinking a bottle of Grange he was given.
Why not McGowan?

Winston Smith
August 17, 2022 5:49 pm

Eyrie:

People is one thing Dr BG. We’re talking communists here.

I think Eyrie has raised an important distinction here.
🙂

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 5:50 pm

all sort of restrictions of the freedom of women, turning them into mere vessels for procreation.

At least m0nty knows what a woman is. This is progress.

JC
JC
August 17, 2022 5:51 pm

Uncle Fester

It’s not the same thing. It’s actually shocking that you don’t appreciate the difference between sharing a bottle of wine and or receiving an expensive bottle as a gift.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 17, 2022 5:51 pm

m0ntysays:
August 17, 2022 at 5:08 pm

Poor old shiteater.

“Personhood” at law is not some kind of fixed normative concept with absolutely the same meaning and consequences in all circumstances. It’s a descriptive term.
For example limited partnerships are recognised for income tax as having a capacity to sue and be sued by the ATO (being one of the normal fundamental attributes of legal personality) – see the Resource Capital Fund IV litigation in 2019 – whereas for most other purposes at law they aren’t recognised.

There’s nothing at all incongruous about the idea that an unborn baby can have certain legal rights but is not necessarily treated at law the same as either a child or a fully legally competent adult.

As for the examples m0nty gives …

I mean, women couldn’t be allowed to drink alcohol because they might have gotten pregnant four weeks ago and not know it yet, thus they would be harming the full person growing inside them. Same for anything that is potentially harmful to a fetus.

Under what statute would that be a crime? Unless it’s a crime there would be no legal right for anyone to stop it happening – i.e. “wouldn’t be allowed” looks like classic m0nty bloviation. If the unborn baby did have full legal rights in respect of that issue (see my comment above) the mother might be liable in a civil action, but that would depend (under current law) in part on reasonable foreseeability – and to be honest if a woman can reasonably foresee she’s harming the unborn baby why shouldn’t she be liable?

IVF and birth control would probably also become illegal.

You fat shiteating imbecile. Although it’s possible for someone to have some sorts of duties in respect of possible future persons (e.g. unclosed classes in trust law), how could someone owe any legal duty to or in respect of a person who, if birth control worked, by definition never existed? On what basis could any action be founded on the hypothetical facts that if someone who got his end in hadn’t used a party hat they might still have had the bonk and that might have led to a pregnancy which might have naturally gone to term…? And what would be the liability to or in respect of an IVF baby for causing it to come into existence, or a baby from failed contraception for failing to prevent its existence?

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 5:52 pm

Apparently O’Farrell didn’t even drink wine.

A bottle of Grange wasted.

Old bloke
Old bloke
August 17, 2022 5:52 pm

Cassie, do you remember David Helfgott from your Perth days? His wife, Gillian Helfgott, died yesterday following a short illness.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/gillian-helfgott-wife-of-pianist-david-helfgott-dies-aged-90/101339284

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Apparently O’Farrell didn’t even drink wine.

I’ve sometimes wondered if there was a backdoor threat, what that threat was, & if the bottle of plonk was the best he could come up with as a reason to quit.

Resigning over receiving a bottle of plonk is a sick joke.

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 5:59 pm

In other news, I’m picking up my new “baby” tomorrow. High enough off the ground for Mum to get into easily. I wonder if it will have a bow on it? The last one did, but these are troubled times. 😀

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 17, 2022 5:59 pm

Southwick’s on a margin of 0.1%. He was out front of Coles in Glenhuntly Rd this week begging for attention.

Sounds like he would be better off inside applying for a nightfill job.

Jorge
Jorge
August 17, 2022 6:00 pm

One of the most irritating and exasperating things about having John Howard back on our screens promoting a book is how he finds in every interview an opportunity to declare his disapproval of Trump.

The purported reason is failure to accept the result of the election. This is bullshit. Howard just doesn’t like the way Trump strides the stage, showing up the political class for the sinister liars they are.

Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 6:01 pm

homicide
h?m??-s?d?, h??m?-
noun

The killing of one person by another.

m0nty
m0nty
August 17, 2022 6:02 pm

You don’t need to posit ‘fetal personhood’ to confer the protection of the law to the child in utero; you simply need to accept that it is an individuated human being at an early stage of development.

This hair you are splitting is not particularly relevant, since we are talking about US Republican lawmakers here who definitely do want to enact fetal personhood.

Dot asks whether the pre-Roe world was The Handmaid’s Tale… no, but the post-Dobbs world will be worse. Courts will appoint lawyers to act on behalf of unborn babies, prosecuting their mother for a whole range of sins. The implications of such a radical law are far-reaching.

This is like the old arguments we had on the Cat. You try to set the line just where you want it, but the movement you are a part of doesn’t care about your niceties. It goes much further. No rape exception. No incest exception. No 10-year-old girl exception. Close all of the clinics. Sack all the doctors who used to provide abortions. Ban it almost completely. Gaol or bankrupt anyone who wants to do any different. Ignore any uptick in maternal deaths as a price worth paying. This is the world you are cheering on.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2022 6:02 pm

JC, that is a superb parable for our times.

Messianic cults will always be with us, especially when they culturally dug in deep. Cargo cults, as seen in primitive New Guinea during the Second World War, the belief in the sudden arrival of good things (by aircraft in this case) if correct rituals (making airstrips and toy planes) are performed are simply one version of these and they still spring up from time to time. One might also say that the belief that ‘good things’ as opposed to any current miseries will happen if they are willed enough to happen, without thinking about how they will be achieved, also carries elements of messianic thinking. Humans are prone to it.

Followers rarely become disillusioned in their beliefs, they simply believe they have not performed the right rituals and sacrifices. I won’t be around to see it, but in my sadest moments I imagine the sorts of ways in which the current climate cult might work out, if not in an absolute die-off, always on the cards, then in an authoritarian world-wide political nightmare; not pretty.

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 6:04 pm

The pamphleteers at Seven are huffing and puffing over ScoMo, conveniently forgetting their unashamed panic merchanting during 2020 and beyond.

They were sure we were all going to die, running red screens day after day. And not a peep from Labor.

They disgust me.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 17, 2022 6:04 pm

Liz Cheney: “Abraham Lincoln was defeated in elections for the Senate and House before he won the most important election of all.”

I’d suggest hiring the top hat.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 17, 2022 6:05 pm

Chairman Dan presumably thinks they’ll vote for the Greens anyway.

Crystal McKinnon, Meriki Onus charged over Black Lives Matters rally

Prosecutors have revealed why Black Lives Matters leaders were incorrectly told charges against them for organising a rally during lockdown were dropped.

Prosecutors say there was no conspiracy to drop protest charges against Black Lives Matters leaders before backflipping on the decision due to a communications bungle.

Earlier this year, Crystal McKinnon and Meriki Onus were told their charges for allegedly organising a Black Lives Matter rally in Melbourne’s CBD amid Covid restrictions would be withdrawn.

But prosecutors reneged on the assurance, claiming the police officer who made the decision was not authorised to do so.

Prosecutor Andrew Sim told Melbourne Magistrates’ Court that while it was “regrettable” the women had been misinformed, it was not a political decision.

“There’s no great conspiracy here about malfeasance,” he said on Wednesday.

“It was an error.”

He also said the women had been notified of an intention to withdraw charges, but noted it was just an intention, and the prosecution had the final say on how matters proceeded.

Barrister Felicity Gerry QC, acting for the women, accused prosecutors of misleading the court and argued there was an “unequivocal intent” to withdraw.

She also contended there were exemptions for breaking Covid rules such as in emergencies or if individuals had a reasonable excuse.

But Mr Sim rejected the claim.

“An emergency is I’ve got a sick kid (and) the children’s hospital is outside the 5km radius and I need to take them there,” he said.

Ms Gerry applied for a subpoena of police documents that she claimed would prove her clients had suffered injustice and an abuse of process.

But the application – which was opposed by Chief Commissioner Shane Patton – was rejected by Magistrate Andrew McKenna who said it did not have a “legitimate objective”.

Magistrate McKenna noted prosecution matters were often dealt with by various people who had differing views.

“The court is only concerned with what charge is before the court and whether it can proceed,” he said.

Ms McKinnon and Ms Onus did not attend Wednesday’s hearing as they were in mourning following the death of an Aboriginal man in Port Phillip Prison last week.

The women were charged for allegedly planning a BLM rally in Melbourne’s CBD that attracted around 10,000 protesters in June 2020.

The pair were accused of contravening the chief health officer’s directions which at the time banned public gatherings of more than 20 people.

The matter will return to court on October 5.

Herald-Sun

Speedbox
August 17, 2022 6:06 pm

Years ago I visited one of the very remote islands in the Fiji group. After arriving at the airport I made my way to the small single engine plane that had the words “Island Air” hand painted on the side. I only had a small bag and a very large Fijian man with bare feet came up to me, took my bag and placed it in the baggage locker at the rear of the plane. I thought he was the baggage handler but he was also the pilot.

On the flight I was the only passenger and sat directly behind the pilot. On this particular day there was lots of low cloud and after take-off I noticed that we didn’t climb very high and were no more that about 600-700 feet above the sea. So, I’m looking over the pilot’s shoulder at the instruments and across the face of almost every instrument was a small red sticker saying “Inoperative”. Even the compass!

I realised the reason we were flying so low was so the pilot could see where he was going. If we climbed above the clouds, he would have no idea of his heading (plus level flight etc). I noticed that as we reached an island or atoll the pilot would turn left or right -we were literally ‘island hopping’ line-of-sight.

A few days later I flew back to the main island of Fiji and although it was with the same airline it was a different plane. On the return flight, there were two other passengers (and a live chicken in a box).

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 17, 2022 6:07 pm

Also from Danistan:

An accused grave robber charged with stealing skulls has died from illness before facing court.

Tristan Hearne, 41, was facing seven charges for exhuming corpses and damaging burial plots at Footscray Cemetery but did not show up to his first court hearing on Wednesday.

Victoria Police later confirmed Mr Hearne had died, saying his death was not being treated as suspicious.

“Police will prepare a report for the Coroner,” a statement said.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2022 6:09 pm

This is like the old arguments we had on the Cat. You try to set the line just where you want it, but the movement you are a part of doesn’t care about your niceties.

Lines can be set and adhered to. Societies would never have functioned at all in any way otherwise.
On contentious issues there has to be argument and clarity in lawmaking and freedom to speak. Decisions are made by democratic means. There will always be dissent and some confusion and slippage in positions. That is the nature of humans as we live together in groups. Always has been. Democracy is difficult and imperfect, but there is no better substitute. Bringing Roe vs Wade decisions back to smaller polities is a good thing, not a bad one. Open societies need to argue.

Roger
Roger
August 17, 2022 6:13 pm

I gave you an uptick for that, Lizzie.

m0nty
m0nty
August 17, 2022 6:15 pm

and to be honest if a woman can reasonably foresee she’s harming the unborn baby why shouldn’t she be liable?

Sure, and let the unborn baby sue the bar she drank in, and the brewer. Totally logical.

Frank
Frank
August 17, 2022 6:17 pm

I mean, women couldn’t be allowed to drink alcohol because they might have gotten pregnant four weeks ago and not know it yet, thus they would be harming the full person growing inside them. Same for anything that is potentially harmful to a fetus. IVF and birth control would probably also become illegal.

This is hysterical. Fatboy must be getting fractious as feeding time approaches, heaven forbid his handlers become tardy slinging those glazed hams over into his enclosure.

johanna
johanna
August 17, 2022 6:21 pm

Big_Nambas says:
August 17, 2022 at 11:54 am

Its largest project is the 1,600 megawatt Orana battery in Wellington, central-west New South Wales, which can provide around eight hours of energy storage.

Ah, Wellington. About an hour out of Bathurst. Been there a couple of times visiting a friend who used to live there.

There is an Aboriginal ‘settlement’ there (government housing) where, when my friend lived there, nobody paid their electricity bills. This was back when electricity was affordable.

People in town who didn’t pay their bills eventually got cut off, but not this mob. Every time it was tried, the cries of ‘racist’ cowed the company and other Powers That Be to back off. This went on for years.

Eventually, the company wrote off the debts (amounting to hundreds of thousands of dollars) and started everyone off with a clean slate. This was in the late 1990s.

Poor white people in the town and surrounds had to pay their bills.

If you wanted a formula for fomenting racism, this is it.

Nice caves, though.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 6:22 pm

I’d suggest hiring the top hat.

Stay away from the theatre.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 17, 2022 6:33 pm

particular “Teton” was named by early French fur trappers.

Beaver?

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2022 6:35 pm

m0nty-fa at 1802

And that process of setting the line is different how from gradually extending a limited first trimester right to an absolute right for an abortion at any time until (perhaps beyond) birth, for any reason, at any time? Because that is what happened eventually with R v W.

Tom
Tom
August 17, 2022 6:38 pm

West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has defended his decision to attend a private dinner at the home of a major property developer, where they drank a $1000 bottle of wine.

Victorian emperor Daniel Andrews, facing an election in three months, has invited “rich-listers” to a $4500-per-head dinner with him, according to a Page 7 splash on today’s Herald Sun, but the ALP isn’t advertising it because of allegations that Andrews has taken bribes from a land developer named John Woodman.

McClown thinks there’s no-one alive who remembers the ALP’s WA Inc scandal so he’s doing whatever it takes to guarantee him eternal political life.

If only the local Perth newspaper monopoly wasn’t an ALP sycophant and was willing to pursue the corruption of WA’s ruling class. Fuck you, Sandgropers: you’ll get what you’re given and vote for whoever we say.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2022 6:40 pm

Thank you, Roger.

Ballerina curtsey to you.

I can still do those well. 🙂

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 6:40 pm

Monty: The government must compel people to have medical procedures I approve of because Im an obese slug with gravy for blood who wont lose weight and I FEEL like Im at risk.

Also monty: The state cant compel ladies to carry babies to term REEEEEE!!!!

So what is it monty, bodily autonomy or the state deciding whats best for you?

When the dates came and went, the believers simply turned on the nonbelievers, blaming their lack of faith for the prophecies not being fulfilled. Again, this is something we see with the environmental movements in the West.

This is baked into the shit being said already.
The elites will be ashamed that we failed them as they fly off to another global conference.

Roger
Roger
August 17, 2022 6:41 pm

Elbow graced Brisbane with his presence today, boosting the enormously expensive cross river rail project.

Meanwhile, surveys reveal that WFH is becoming a permanent arrangement for office workers.

Roger
Roger
August 17, 2022 6:43 pm

Thank you, Roger.

One of the problems though, Lizzie, is that we can no longer have rational discussions about such issues. Opposing sides are entrenched & on a war footing from the get go.

Roger
Roger
August 17, 2022 6:48 pm

Meanwhile, surveys reveal that WFH is becoming a permanent arrangement for office workers.

Numbers c. 40% reported.

Enough to make an inner suburbs-cbd rail project duplicating existing commuter routes redundant, I would think.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 17, 2022 6:49 pm

Tristan Hearne, 41, was facing seven charges for exhuming corpses and damaging burial plots at Footscray Cemetery but did not show up to his first court hearing on Wednesday.

Victoria Police later confirmed Mr Hearne had died, saying his death was not being treated as suspicious.

Somebody pinch his skull.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 17, 2022 6:51 pm

You try to set the line just where you want it, but the movement you are a part of doesn’t care about your niceties. It goes much further.

Like SSM? Like that?

Roger
Roger
August 17, 2022 6:57 pm

‘End of the Republican Party’: Lincoln Project moans Liz Cheney’s defeat to Harriet Hageman and says it will spark downfall of GOP as furious Democrats warn ‘Liz is here to stay’

Ironic, given that Lincoln was an actual tyrant.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 7:07 pm

“Ironic, given that Lincoln was an actual tyrant.”

Yep…he suspended habeas corpus.

Dot
Dot
August 17, 2022 7:08 pm

West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has defended his decision to attend a private dinner at the home of a major property developer, where they drank a $1000 bottle of wine.

Who cares?

Using a common cold strain to act like a Little Khrushchev through, he can be whipped silly for that.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 17, 2022 7:09 pm

‘End of the Republican Party’: Lincoln Project moans Liz Cheney’s defeat to Harriet Hageman and says it will spark downfall of GOP as furious Democrats warn ‘Liz is here to stay’

Sounds fine to me.
Purge the RINOs and rename it the MAGA Party.

Dot
Dot
August 17, 2022 7:11 pm

Honest Abe speaks.

A democracy dog. An election injection. Sweet warm pilling meat.

https://youtu.be/-XNFokmDKrE

Dot
Dot
August 17, 2022 7:12 pm

DAMN YOU AUTOCORRECT! Fucking POLLING!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 7:13 pm

Yep…he suspended habeas corpus.

Declared martial law, and placed civilians in front of military tribunals, without Congressional approval.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 17, 2022 7:14 pm

Yep…he suspended habeas corpus.

TaliDan tried to but failed.
The monster’s got his ugly head down but he’ll be back up when the coast clears.

Roger
Roger
August 17, 2022 7:16 pm

Yep…he suspended habeas corpus.

Tried civilians in military courts.

Imposed the military draft.

Expanded the power of the executive branch of government far beyond what was envisioned in the Constitution on the pretext of the war emergency.

He was preciely what the founding fathers feared.

Roger
Roger
August 17, 2022 7:22 pm

precisely

And snap, Zulu!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 17, 2022 7:30 pm

Bloody hell. Howard’s on Blot.

He looks like Gollum. No ballistic vest today, by the look.

P
P
August 17, 2022 7:36 pm

Howard’s on Blot.

Thanks KD.

m0nty
m0nty
August 17, 2022 7:39 pm

I’m not speaking on behalf of Republican lawmakers.

Riiiiight, you’re the true Scotsman. The leaders of your movement don’t represent you.

And yet you will defend them on here to your last breath when presented with the anecdotal consequences of their radically extreme laws.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 7:39 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Crikey! Just saw something on the TV about NSW floods, etc etc, (former) Reichfuhrer Fuller was speaking, didn’t catch what his role was.

The main point: re the floods, Shane Fitzsimmons, formerly of the Fire Brigade & now boss of “Resilience NSW” oversaw what is arguably the most spectacular example of being asleep at the wheel & being caught totally & completely with your pants down anyone would ever see.

Pearl Habour on the 7th Dec 1941 was at least shocked into action when the Imperial Japanese Navy began dropping bombs. Shane Fitzsimmons & “Resilience NSW” (supposed to be ready for floods) continued slumbering.

So Resilience NSW gets disbanded & everybody gets sacked.
Except for the boss (y’know, the one responsible for the world-class stuff-up)
He remains on the payroll.

He should be eternally grateful it is the NSW public service. In a real world business he’d have been summarily dismissed. (He’d also have been on about half the pay)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 7:44 pm

And snap, Zulu!

I’m reading a very good biography of U.S. Grant that touches on the issue if Lincoln’s disregard for “civil rights.”

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
August 17, 2022 7:44 pm

In less enlightened times those rare and unfortunate anencephalic babies were known as
Until 1986
Only Morticia Addams and Lily (I forget her surname) would be happy with such news.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 7:49 pm

The Morning Briefing: Liz Cheney’s Concession Speech Was a Mentally Ill Cry for Help

Top O’ the Briefing

Happy Wednesday, dear Kruiser Morning Briefing friends. Even Sebastian’s viral tap dancing video wasn’t capturing the attention of the International Charo Fan Club nominating committee.

For once, the polls were not just right, but really, really right. Liz Cheney’s political career met its inevitable ignominious end last night. The drubbing was spectacular, a most decisive end to the political tenure of the woman who just last year was the third most powerful Republican in Congress.

The race was called for Hageman about 14 seconds after the polls closed. What followed were a few hours of every leftist media outlet in America making Cheney out to be the bravest American woman since Rosa Parks.

Lizzie herself thought she was more like Lincoln. Spencer covered her concession speech over at Townhall:

The big difference that Cheney doesn’t grasp in this comparison is that Lincoln didn’t need to save our union from himself.

The Lincoln stuff wasn’t enough, however. She then went on to let us know that this embarrassing loss of hers reminds her of — I kid you not — Ulysses Grant. More from Spencer:

At this point, I half expected our girl Liz to continue the Civil War theme by offering to torch Atlanta so she could liken herself to Sherman as well.

The fact that this woman is having praise lavished upon her by the “enemy of the people” media is appalling. It’s low even for those perpetual bottom-feeders. “People’s Pundit” Rich Baris put it well:

In a saner time, Liz Cheney would be ostracized by both parties for this kind of lunacy. Instead, we’ve got people from every big mainstream news outlet in America saying that Cheney’s almost 40-point defeat means that she should run for president in 2024. You could present that scenario to a classroom full of fourth graders and they’d laugh you out of the room. My latest VIP column examines why “Cheney ’24” isn’t going to be a thing.

Goodbye and good riddance to Elizabeth Lynne Cheney, her daddy, and any other vestiges of Bush family influence that may be lurking in the GOP.

dopey
dopey
August 17, 2022 7:50 pm

O’Farrell resigned because he made a statement to ICAC which ,upon checking, he accepted was false. I always wondered why the bloke who gave him the wine kept the receipt for so long.

MatrixTransform
August 17, 2022 7:51 pm

You are always, forever begging the question.

mUnty, you know you’re insane, right?

Vicki
Vicki
August 17, 2022 7:55 pm

The main point: re the floods, Shane Fitzsimmons, formerly of the Fire Brigade & now boss of “Resilience NSW” oversaw what is arguably the most spectacular example of being asleep at the wheel & being caught totally & completely with your pants down anyone would ever see.

Shane Fitzsimmons represents pretty much everything that is wrong with bureaucrats. All about “process”, & nothing about effective action. Yet takes himself immensely seriously. He must have a pretty watertight contract not have been given the boot completely.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 8:03 pm

The Lincoln stuff wasn’t enough, however. She then went on to let us know that this embarrassing loss of hers reminds her of — I kid you not — Ulysses Grant.

Given the allegations that Grant was overly fond of the bottle, is that the wisest comparison to make?

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 8:07 pm

“Old blokesays:
August 17, 2022 at 5:52 pm
Cassie, do you remember David Helfgott from your Perth days? His wife, Gillian Helfgott, died yesterday following a short illness.”

I do. I remember him from community functions and in the early 1980s, around 1981/1982 he played professionally at a nightclub called “Ricardo’s”.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 17, 2022 8:16 pm

So, I’m looking over the pilot’s shoulder at the instruments and across the face of almost every instrument was a small red sticker saying “Inoperative”. Even the compass!

I was flown about East Timor by 2 memorable ‘carriers’:

1) The Singaporeans, who flew old style Hueys, wore reflective aviator sunglasses, had catchy callsigns like ‘Tuna’ on their flying helmets, and would circle slowly down in the fog until ‘Wallaby Pad’ came into view.
2) The Russians, who were all middle aged alcoholics (we fished one out of the harbour after drinking methanol), flew Mi8s, did nothing about ‘weight and balance’ … you just climbed in and chucked your gear in a pile in the back, and (I swear its true) really did do the ‘safety brief’ as ‘Safety brief – we crash, we die – thankyou!’

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 8:22 pm

Move Over, Hunter Biden
Pelosi takes her investment banker son along on taxpayer-funded Taiwan trip.

Wed Aug 17, 2022 Robert Spencer

You think Hunter Biden is bad? You’re right, he is. But in the shady-sons-of-the-above-the-law-political-elites sweepstakes, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Absolut) could be giving Old Joe Biden and his crack-addled porn hound a run for their money. Nancy’s son, Paul Pelosi, Jr., who is not a government official or a member of her staff, accompanied her on her recent nail-biting trip to Taiwan, the one that got the People’s Republic all riled up.

Oh, and young Paul happens to be involved in the lithium mining industry; Taiwan is a leading producer of lithium batteries. As with Hunter Biden’s Air Force One trip to Old Joe’s latest vacation, the question must be asked: are the political elites just mocking us now by flaunting their above-the-law status?

On Monday, Fox News’ Jesse Watters blew the whistle on Paul Pelosi, Jr.’s Taiwan trip, noting Paul Pelosi’s name “wasn’t listed as part of the official delegation.” Watters added: “They didn’t want you to know Paul went to Asia with his mom, but if you look closely at the photos, there he is, Pauly P. Jr., about as unqualified as Hunter with all the big dogs there in Asia. He was also caught by foreign photographers in Singapore and Japan.”

The establishment media, as always true to its mission of covering for corrupt Democrat politicians anytime, anyplace, anywhere, didn’t notice that Paul Pelosi was present on the taxpayer-funded junket. Watters noted acidly: “He was even wearing the same purple tie he wore when he went to Ukraine. Oh, you didn’t know he went to Ukraine?”

He pointed out that Pelosi herself had taken some pains to conceal Paul Jr.’s presence: “You won’t find any trace of this on the speaker’s website because she didn’t want you to know about Pauly Jr.”

Addressing Pelosi, Watters asked: “What was your son doing there? He’s not an elected official. He’s not an advisor to Nancy. He doesn’t even live in Washington, but he was greeted as royalty by the president of Taiwan.”

Why would the president of Taiwan fawn over a private citizen, the son of an elected official? Well, as it happens, “Pauly Jr. Is on the payroll of two lithium mining companies and Asia just happens to be a lithium gold mine and Taiwan just happens to be a world leader in lithium battery production. He’s also heavily invested in Singapore’s energy sector. Wasn’t that another stop on Nancy’s trip?”

As if all that weren’t enough, Paul Pelosi, Jr. also has business interests in South Korea. “Just a few months ago,” says Watters, “his company struck up an EV battery deal there. What do you know, Nancy went to South Korea also.”

Faced with Watters’ curiosity about Paul Pelosi’s presence on the trip, Pelosi’s office took a page out of Richard Nixon’s book and stonewalled it: “We’ve been calling and emailing the speaker’s office all day to confirm this. They won’t pick up the phone or write back.” Did you think they would offer some explanation? Come on, man! The rules are for the rubes.

Nancy Pelosi is a key member of Washington’s political elite class. She doesn’t have to answer to the peasants. As long as they keep electing Democrats and sitting by passively as the elites’ gravy train keeps rolling, they have served their purpose. But our rulers, our moral superiors, certainly don’t have to account for their actions to us.

This time, however, the heat was turned up a bit high, and so finally on Wednesday, Pelosi did deign to address the question of why she brought her lithium-mining son along to lithium country and nearly provoked a world war in doing so. “His role was to be my escort,” she insisted. “Usually, we [invite] spouses, not all could come, but I was proud he was there.” She emphasized that her son didn’t engage in any business dealings during the trip.

As is always the case with the Democrat elites, everything was as honest as the day is long.

Frank
Frank
August 17, 2022 8:23 pm

80s era Perth had the Old Melbourne Hotel in the city which had the benefit of air conditioning. Upstairs was a seedy mafia dive posing as a night club, can anyone remember the name?

Dot
Dot
August 17, 2022 8:26 pm

‘At last reckless cyclists will be held accountable for their behaviour’: Britons hail planned shake-up of road laws that could see bike-riders forced to have number plates, insurance and observe 20mph speed limits

At last, Leviathan gobbles up another victim.

Frank
Frank
August 17, 2022 8:33 pm

Someone told me that the cops in Hobart monitor the cycle lanes to make sure the people with electric bikes are peddling, ticketing those that are not. I hope it’s true.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 8:34 pm

How many of Biden’s new IRS agents will be packing heat — and how many of us will they target?

An audit notice from the IRS is scary. Up to 87,000 more IRS agents in the “Inflation Reduction Act” President Joe Biden signed Tuesday is troubling. And the IRS stockpile of 4,600 guns and 5 million rounds of ammunition is downright unnerving.

How many of the new agents will be packing heat? Democrats won’t say.

The IRS arsenal of 4,600 guns includes 3,282 pistols, 621 shotguns, 539 rifles, 15 fully automatic weapons and four revolvers.

It’s unclear who agents plan to shoot at. A recent IRS job posting says applicants must “be willing to use deadly force.”

Democrats voted in lockstep to take $80 billion from taxpayers to supersize the IRS. A possible 87,000 new agents are a force larger than the combined personnel on all 11 US aircraft carriers. Four times the number of Border Patrol agents. Enough to fill every seat in Madison Square Garden four times.

Why does the IRS have guns and play police officer? The agency got into the policing business in 1919 and over time became abusive, conducting armed raids on innocent small businesses exposed in 1997 and 1998 congressional hearings.

Democrats won’t tell you there are significant criminal-justice ramifications to giving the IRS this much money and power.

As inspector general reports detail, the IRS doesn’t respect your privacy or the concept of due process. Evidence-handling practices are abysmal. Handing the IRS a huge pile of cash won’t change the agency’s culture.

The IRS’s official government watchdog, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, has flagged severe problems with IRS gun management in numerous audits over the years.

“There is no national level review of firearms training records to ensure that all special agents meet the qualification requirements,” TIGTA noted in a 2018 report. “Special agents not properly trained in the use of firearms could endanger the public, as well as their fellow special agents, and expose the IRS to possible litigation over injuries or for damages.”

Another TIGTA report found that in a three-year period (fiscal years 2009 to 2011), IRS agents fired their guns accidentally on more occasions than they fired them intentionally.

The bill contains 14 times the amount of funding for “enforcement” — such as audits — as for “taxpayer services” — such as answering the phone. It even provides money for new cars for agents, though the inspector general found the fleet is already too large and the IRS can’t prove the cars are used strictly for official business.

In other words, it failed its own audit.

The law also shovels more taxpayer money toward new IRS “office rent” though 53% of IRS employees never set foot into an office because they “work from home.” How many of these are expected to pack heat and “be willing to use deadly force”?

Biden and the Democrats say they’re simply targeting the rich and corporations. But there are only 700 or so billionaires. The rest of the country is you and me.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 8:35 pm

Upstairs was a seedy mafia dive posing as a night club, can anyone remember the name?

Piano bar? The Aurora?

MatrixTransform
August 17, 2022 8:37 pm

We have to put the brakes on reckless riders

Got out of the car in Sydney Rd Brunswick one night.
Fucking cyclist meandering along pretty slow in the bike lane.
I shut the door and pressed myself back to the car so the mong could pass.
slowly he traveled.
like slower than walking pace

and while I’m waiting for the retard to pass he starts ding-ding-dinging
fuck this, I thought and gave the bastard the shoulder for being such a turd

he made a great show of wobbling and managed wobble into a heap in front of my parked car
he whipped out the mobile presumably to ring 000

my missus was freaking, omg, omg he’s calling the Polis

Oh fuck him, I said, what will he say? I just ran into a pedestrian?

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 8:39 pm

Karma Sharma, ex MP for Wentworth, was on Credlin tonight (Chris Smith is standing in for Credlin). The subject of Liz Cheney’s loss came up. Karma Sharma, the great Liberal (sarcasm alert) was bemoaning the fact that Donald Trump and his allies “have the upper hand in the GOP” and then this joke of a former member for Wentworth said that “Cheney stood up for principles” and that “no one could diminish Cheney’s conservative credentials”.

I fell of my couch laughing.

Zipster
Zipster
August 17, 2022 8:42 pm

not the onion

Reusable toilet roll that could save you ‘small fortune’ leaves shoppers disgusted
Controversial reusable toilet roll is dividing opinion on Twitter as some call the product an unhygienic “health risk” while others argue it slashes costs and is eco-friendly- here’s what you need to know

Frank
Frank
August 17, 2022 8:46 pm

Piano bar? The Aurora?

Thanks, not ringing any bells. Probably too long ago.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 17, 2022 8:47 pm

The FBI has fallen along way from his more credible days, when Mulder and Scully tracked aliens, rather than the far more elusive white supremacist insurrectionists.

Imagine if Mulder had turned up to his boss in the FBI with a soccer mum spray painted grey and black marbles pushed into her eyesockets, and insisted she was an alien. Much the same as what they are doing with the supposed insurrectionists.

And that monster Jodie Foster, who pursued and ultimately killed Buffalo Bill. The sheer bigotry of treating a transsexual as a criminal. If he was a murderer, it is because straight patriarchal society made him so. His victims were the real criminals, and him their hapless victim.

MatrixTransform
August 17, 2022 8:48 pm

What are you bloviating about?

respectfully dover, you cannot reason with the unreasonable

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 17, 2022 8:49 pm

Boston Children’s Hospital Throws Child Off Roof After She Claims To Be A Bird

None of those Guardian jokes got an actual chuckle, but this one did.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 17, 2022 8:50 pm

MT:
fuck this, I thought and gave the bastard the shoulder for being such a turd

he made a great show of wobbling and managed wobble into a heap in front of my parked car
he whipped out the mobile presumably to ring 000

my missus was freaking, omg, omg he’s calling the Polis

Oh fuck him, I said, what will he say? I just ran into a pedestrian?

omg, MT, you’re not the other half, are you?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 8:52 pm

Thanks, not ringing any bells. Probably too long ago.

Perth, from the mid 1970’s to the early 1980’s, had the best nightlife in Australia…

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 8:53 pm

““no one could diminish Cheney’s conservative credentials”.”

Memo to Dave Sharma….

I suppose Cheney’s “conservative credentials” are just like your “conservative credentials” Dave. Remember when….

1. In January 2021 you supported Donald Trump being booted off Twitter.

2. Last year you and your wet mates pressured Scumbag to ban offshore oil and gas drilling here in NSW.

3. Last year you and your wet mates pressured Scumbag to adopt “net zero emissions”.

4. In February of this year you and your wet mates crossed the floor to vote against the Religious Freedom Bill.

5. In April of this year you supported your great “conservative” mate, Matt Kean, with his smears against Katherine Deves when she was preselected for Warringah. You even agreed with Kean that she should be disendorsed.

And yet Dave, despite all of the above “conservative” actions, you and your wet mates still lost your seats on 21 May 2022, and by the end of March 2023, your great mate Matt will be jobless.

Oh and Dave, what happened on January 6 2021 last year wasn’t, as you so quaintly described it tonight on Credlin, an “insurrection”….it was a riot.

You want to know what’s wrong with the Liberal Party…..YOU.

Now fuck off.

Old bloke
Old bloke
August 17, 2022 8:53 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
August 17, 2022 at 8:07 pm

I do. I remember him from community functions and in the early 1980s, around 1981/1982 he played professionally at a nightclub called “Ricardo’s”.

I used to go there on a Tuesday night (from memory) when he played there. He’s going to miss Gillian.

MatrixTransform
August 17, 2022 8:58 pm

omg, MT, you’re not the other half, are you?

no, but I’d like to buy him a beer

m0nty
m0nty
August 17, 2022 9:06 pm

The leaders of the anti-abortion movement aren’t Republican lawmakers. And nothing you’ve presented is ‘radically extreme’.

Yes they are. They are leading the charge to pass these laws.

Current abortion laws in many US states make no exceptions apart from the health of the mother. This position is supported by a tiny minority only.

Fetal personhood is a concept Republican lawmakers want to pass, but is supported by no majorities anywhere. Even in red states you can’t find a majority. The bills they are going to put up will be theocratic and fascist. But of course they are shielded from democratic accountability by massive gerrymanders.

Are you tired of defending these weirdos yet?

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