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Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 17, 2022 11:05 am

Central London was a scene of chaos on Friday evening as crowds of youths ran riot through the busy Oxford Circus area looting shops, fighting, jumping on luxury cars, and assaulting police officers. Met Police have confirmed that several people have been arrested as a result of the disorder

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2022 11:06 am

Babylon Bee nails it.

‘Reaffirming’ children to any sort of fantasy is immoral and dangerous.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2022 11:11 am

Its just incredible how all these top down ideas to immiserate people “for their own good” are occurring in every Western nation at once.

What was once a limited climate cult has now morphed into a world-wide religion.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 11:13 am

It’s going to take a purge of Pinochet proportions to save the US now.

Leaning right into fascism, I see.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 11:13 am

If we had Politicians with backbones in Australia – we would follow

Red states giving the boot to ‘woke’ firms seeking government business

More Republican-led states are refusing to do business with financial institutions that embrace a “woke” agenda on issues such as climate change, guns and other social issues.

It is part of a growing pushback among conservative elected officials against banks and investment managers that base business decisions and investment choices not on maximizing profits but on progressive views about environmental, social and governance issues or what’s known as ESG principles.

Notably, the ESG movement has major Wall Street firms putting the fossil fuel industry on the chopping block because of climate change, a move that could result in costly financial implications for energy companies, banks and taxpayers alike.

West Virginia was the first state to give some of the world’s biggest banks the boot, barring five major Wall Street firms — Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan, Morgan Stanley, Wells Fargo and BlackRock, one of the globe’s largest asset managers — from doing business with the state. Citing the firms’ anti-coal policies or plans to divest from fossil fuels, the state will pull out tens of millions of dollars.

West Virginia is the second largest coal producer in the country, with coal and other fossil fuels accounting for the third-largest annual revenue source for the state, more than $750 million annually.

“You have your right to be able to boycott the fossil fuel industry, but we’re not going to do business with you. We’re not going to pay for our own destruction,” West Virginia Treasurer Riley Moore said in a recent interview. “They’ve weaponized tax dollars against the very people and industries that have generated those dollars.”

Corporate boards that follow ESG principles would note that coal is also the dirtiest fossil fuel and a significant contributor to climate-changing greenhouse gas emissions.

ESG stretches far beyond the environment to include fraught social issues like racial justice and the Black Lives Matter movement, gun control and LGBTQ issues. It also involves corporate governance issues including transparency and diversity measures such as imposing gender quotas for the board of directors.

The problem with ESG policies, said NYU Professor of Finance Aswath Damodaran, is that it’s “like nailing Jell-O to a wall” because they are based largely on what is perceived as good versus bad rather than set parameters.

“ESG advocates who complain about red states pushing back on ESG policies are like pyromaniacs complaining about how hot it’s getting.

You brought the fire into the game; you have to live with it,” he said. “The only people that win are ESG consultants, who make a hefty amount telling companies exactly what they should be doing.”

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 17, 2022 11:13 am

The head of RAF recruitment has resigned in protest at an “effective pause” on offering jobs to white male recruits in favour of women and ethnic minorities, defence sources have claimed.

The senior female officer apparently handed in her notice in recent days amid concerns that any such restrictions on hiring, however temporary and limited, could undermine the fighting strength of the Royal Air Force (RAF), the sources said.

They said the service was attempting to hit “impossible” diversity targets.

Jorge
Jorge
August 17, 2022 11:14 am

Mike Clayton (vic golfer) on the decline in Australian golf this morning.

Made the point that we don’t have any big tournaments any more because all prize money requires government sponsorship. Once, companies like Heineken put in but no longer. Players are vying for a pool of 150k per tournament and just the top ten earn a pittance.

Had no comment on Norman’s LIV play but why wouldn’t it be welcomed ?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2022 11:15 am

Weird thing is that lately, when I step onto the balcony with my first coffee (nice to drink strong coffee in fresh crisp air) magpies launch themselves from the surrounding trees and land on the railing and look at me. Seriously, yesterday I stepped out and with 30 seconds there were seven of them. Silent, as if waiting. Like, for what?

That’s nature red in tooth and claw, Mother Lode. They are checking out the opportunities.

Don’t blame them. They work in groups. You’re big and safe enough with a cup of hot coffee in hand.

Provide them with a little bread and meat and it becomes symbiotic – you get fun watching them and they get a little treat. No-one gets hurt. 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 11:15 am

Winston, the rot had stages.
Bush/Cheney & the Patriot Act.
But before that, the Clinton/Gingrich filleting of the FTC.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2022 11:16 am

Silent, as if waiting. Like, for what?

For Pfizer to do its work! 🙂

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 17, 2022 11:16 am

lotocoti bested menus few hours…

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 17, 2022 11:17 am

Menus = me

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 11:18 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2022 11:20 am

It’s going to take a purge of Pinochet proportions to save the US now.

Leaning right into fascism, I see.

No, M0nty. When communism’s ugliness takes hold history shows that a lot of reaction can occur.
Not all of it is pleasant and liberally democratic. That is a simple fact of history – if you’ve ever read any, which I do recommend for you. This is why it is a very, very good idea not to subvert a liberal democracy by underhand and communistic methods – as we see with the FBI harrassment of Trump.

local oaf
August 17, 2022 11:21 am

Provide them with a little bread and meat

Is bread not considered a bad thing to give magpies?

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2022 11:21 am

Israel reported myocarditis as a side effect from Pfizer in young men from the get go.

We’re all good then, nothing to see!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 17, 2022 11:26 am

I returned the uptick Lizzie, we could go on all day like this. I’ve thought about giving munty upticks to make him think someone agrees with him.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 17, 2022 11:26 am

You’re trying too hard mUnty. Go away and do some “work”.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2022 11:29 am

Dobbs working as intended: to punish and subjugate women.

How accurate do you think ultrasounds are?

Personally I went through several months of worry because of a lack of ultrasound accuracy and operator competence.

You’re a fat fucking moron.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2022 11:31 am

Is bread not considered a bad thing to give magpies?

I wouldn’t give the modern stuff to magpies or people!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 11:36 am

Washington Times Editorial – Solving Trump harassment

Only officialdom’s prosecution can stop the persecution

The pattern of politically driven justice has become sickeningly familiar: The Russiagate hoax, then failed impeachment No. 1 followed by futile impeachment No. 2. Next, the cover-up of potential criminality detailed on Hunter Biden’s laptop gives way to the made-for-TV Jan. 6 show trial. Push “play” to watch the next episode: the raid on the Florida residence of former President Donald Trump in search of classified documents. Officialdom cannot be expected to quit its vengeful compulsions until real justice serves it with genuine punishment.

The FBI officials and agents who planned and executed last week’s search and seizure at the Trump Mar-a-Lago estate belong to the very same FBI Counterintelligence Division that conducted the sham investigation of Mr. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign for colluding with Russia, according to RealClearInvestigations reporter Paul Sperry. And for their roles in the earlier, bogus scheme to frame the former president, those involved are under investigation by Special Counsel John Durham, he writes.

Accordingly, they should have been recused from any additional Trump case to avoid the taint of prejudicial motivation — but they were not.

Moreover, operatives allied with 2016 presidential race loser Hillary Clinton worked with Justice Department and National Archives officials, Mr. Sperry writes, to trigger the Mar-a-Lago raid as retribution for Mr. Trump’s sensationalizing of the 2016 email scandal in which Hillary narrowly escaped prosecution for mishandling classified documents. In Washington, there is no statute of limitations for vengeance.

Presidents have the prerogative to apportion archival records between personal and public use. Whether that privilege is recognized apparently depends on the president. Despite Mr. Trump’s authority to declassify documents, the FBI cites a possible violation of the Espionage Act as cause for raiding his home and confiscating a couple of dozen boxes. Among them, according to Trump lawyers, is personal material protected by attorney-client privilege that once seen, cannot be unseen. The FBI may have found a less-perilous method of wounding Hillary’s nemesis without using false claims to gain authorization to spy on him.

In glaring contrast, establishment favorite Barack Obama concluded his presidency and transported 30 million pages of administration documents to his Chicago library, according to the New York Post, with the promise to digitize them for public access. Did authorities examine each page for potential classification violations? Yet it is Mr. Trump who is targeted for criminal investigation.

“The FBI goes after Trump again, and this time, it has really blundered,” headlined a Washington Post op-ed by columnist Marc Thiessen. Indeed, the public is reckoning the raid as part and parcel of the serial legal abuse former president has suffered since throwing his hat in the ring for the White House.

Already a Politico/Morning Consult poll shows him widening his lead to 10 points over his potential 2024 Republican rival Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. Americans hate persecution.

The FBI’s Mar-a-Lago raiders and their bosses deserve the presumption of innocence they haven’t accorded Mr. Trump, but it’s abundantly clear that officialdom’s obsession with harassing the former president will not cease until justice slams the jailhouse door on guilty fingers.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 11:45 am

No, M0nty. When communism’s ugliness takes hold history shows that a lot of reaction can occur.
Not all of it is pleasant and liberally democratic. That is a simple fact of history – if you’ve ever read any, which I do recommend for you. This is why it is a very, very good idea not to subvert a liberal democracy by underhand and communistic methods – as we see with the FBI harrassment of Trump.

The first move of fascists over history, Lizzie, is to declare their opponents to be communists and thus treasonous non-citizens.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 17, 2022 11:51 am

Anchor What, 7.42:

We live in the age of massive political failure.

Dickless uptick.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 11:53 am

Good Start

Republican Primary
Updated 5m ago
6% REPORTED
Candidate Votes Pct.
Harriet Hageman
6,219 +60.5%60.5%
Liz Cheney*
3,592 +35.0%35.0

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 17, 2022 11:54 am

Its largest project is the 1,600 megawatt Orana battery in Wellington, central-west New South Wales, which can provide around eight hours of energy storage.

Given that BlackRock is equivalent to a major foreign power, shouldn’t the government be asking harder questions before it opens the door to an entity that lobbies like a political activist, serves foreign investors, and shamelessly meddles in national policies?

https://joannenova.com.au/2022/08/like-a-banker-belt-n-road-plan-blackrock-give-australia-batteries-we-dont-need-with-esg-strings-attached/

m0nty
August 17, 2022 11:56 am

Personally I went through several months of worry because of a lack of ultrasound accuracy and operator competence.

Turns out you just had a dodgy curry and were not pregnant, rickw?

m0nty
August 17, 2022 11:57 am

Poor dear is being ‘forced to choose’. The concern for the child is palpable.

The child is non-viable, db. It won’t live.

Your complete lack of concern for the mother is notable.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2022 11:58 am

Turns out you just had a dodgy curry and were not pregnant, rickw?

How about you try and answer the question?

Winston Smith
August 17, 2022 11:58 am

DB:
WS:

You may be right, DB, but why the secrecy?

DB:

Probably because it would only come into effect in the event of incapacity of one of the relevant Ministers.

No, I don’t get it – letting the public know there was a provision for continuation, that someone was in touch of all the facts, would be well received as being forward thinking by the government. He has a deputy, does he not? So why not have a provision to allow succession with someone who is in touch of the relevant issues on a daily basis?

local oaf
August 17, 2022 11:59 am

The first move of fascists over history, Lizzie, is to declare their opponents to be communists and thus treasonous non-citizens.

How about declaring their opponents to be Russian assets?

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 12:00 pm

Fact – Pinochet saved Chile.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2022 12:01 pm

The child is non-viable, db. It won’t live.

Your complete lack of concern for the mother is notable.

In the opinion of a single operator you dumb fuck. If the child is truly non-viable, then a miscarriage is the normal outcome.

No medical intervention and the mother is comforted with knowing she gave the child the best shot at life she could.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 12:02 pm

How accurate do you think ultrasounds are?

Depends on what body part you are looking at. Babies are pretty easy to find in the womb, usually. I had an ultrasound done on my knee a few weeks ago (torn meniscus) and it was essentially useless because there was too much swelling. So yeah, YMMV but they are very helpful in obstetrics.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2022 12:03 pm

Fact – Pinochet saved Chile.

Indeed, have been to both Argentina and Chile, the contrast is stark.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 12:03 pm

Vale Sir David Smith
Wednesday, 17 August 2022

Michael Smith News. Sir David Smith read the notice of Goof’s dismissal on that fateful November day, 1975.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2022 12:04 pm

YMMV but they are very helpful in obstetrics.

Of course, but not infallible, correct?

m0nty
August 17, 2022 12:04 pm

If the child is truly non-viable, then a miscarriage is the normal outcome.

No medical intervention and the mother is comforted with knowing she gave the child the best shot at life she could.

But what if the mother is not comforted by the prospect of carrying a non-viable fetus to term, and would actually be traumatised? I guess you don’t care.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 12:06 pm

Of course, but not infallible, correct?

I’d hazard a guess that that particular mother would have had something more definitive than an ultrasound to confirm a diagnosis of the fetus lacking a skull. You are quite right that ultrasounds are fallible.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2022 12:06 pm

The first move of fascists over history, Lizzie, is to declare their opponents to be communists and thus treasonous non-citizens.

Their opponents often were genuine communists, M0nty, and there the problem lies. Exposed are both sides of a very nasty coin. Trying to enforce ‘progressive’ views by extra-legal institutional means, which we see happening now in the US, plus deplatforming opponents and denying free speech, is where you personally are at right now. That is the first step towards communism. The Biden administration and the faux ideology it stands for and hides behind (oppressive climatic cult stuff) to impose Marxist stuff stinks to high hell on so many counts and levels. So many in the US are screaming Wrong Way Go Back that it’s no wonder other ‘first steps’ are being mooted in the opposing direction. You and your side are playing with fire, M0nty.

Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 12:06 pm

Louisiana abortion law.

“Abortion” or “induced abortion” means the performance of any act with the intent to terminate a clinically diagnosable pregnancy with knowledge that the termination by those means will, with reasonable likelihood, cause the death of the unborn child, unless: necessary to save the life of the mother or prevent the serious impairment of a life-sustaining organ; the unborn child is deemed to be medically futile; or to prevent or remove an ectopic pregnancy.

Acardia is one of those medically futile procedures allowed.

Fake news.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2022 12:09 pm

But what if the mother is not comforted by the prospect of carrying a non-viable fetus to term, and would actually be traumatised? I guess you don’t care.

Can’t you smell the bullshit in the story? If there was a real problem they would put her on weekly ultrasounds until the situation was entirely clear. A non viable child by definition hardly ever goes anywhere near term.

You’re arguing badly at the fringes, as usual.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 17, 2022 12:11 pm

How exactly does one know whether one is “white” or “ethnic”? Do you have to have a good photograph of great great grandpa, or a DNA analysis? Are Vikings ethnic? What about White Russians, are they white or ethnic?

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 12:13 pm

“The child is non-viable, db. It won’t live.”

“non-viable”. My oh my, the Nazis used to say similar.

You’re in good company.

Dot
Dot
August 17, 2022 12:13 pm

monty thinks abolishing the FBI is fascist.

monty tell me more about COINTELPRO and if Americans should keep the criminal, government toppling CIA.

Old bloke
Old bloke
August 17, 2022 12:15 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer says:
August 17, 2022 at 9:43 am

An example of the overreaching of power in legislation seemingly as a matter of course is the push last year by then minister, Stuart Robert, to have the Trusted Digital Identity legislation passed into law. From the submissions, many Australians have pointed out that it could create in Australia a similar system to the Chinese Social Credit System.

Question is, is it still going through the processes under the bureaucrats to be made law? Will Labor as a matter of course take it up? Or with the Coalition loss has it fallen into the rubbish bin of stupid ideas?

I’d bet that it’s still coming along and it will be introduced by a Labor government rather than a Liberal one. Similarly, the RBA is now looking at digitising our currency, these two pieces of Big Brother control will probably be introduced simultaneously.

It matters not who lives in the Lodge, or what colour T-shirts their spruikers wear on polling day, the government is run by other people whom no one elected.

As an example, immediately after Labor won the last election it was announced that an investigation would be conducted into whether we really needed to order and pay for ten doses of the vaxx for every man, woman and child in Australia. This was not an election issue, neither Labor nor the Liberals mentioned this gross waste of public money in the run-up to the election, but it was apparently an important issue to the powers behind the throne.

Jane Halton (remember her) ran the inquiry and, of course, resolved that it was good and sound policy that we wasted millions (billions?) of dollars buying these drugs which will never be used.

Why was this inquiry run, it wasn’t an election issue for either party, someone somewhere wanted an exoneration on the public record (our secret Federal Health Minister?). Whoever these people are, they will continue working on the digital identity and digital currency and the elected government will push it through Parliament, and it matters not who forms government at the time.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 12:16 pm

This is no different to hearing that someone has been in a near fatal accident and will likely die of their injuries. Under these circumstances, you provide whatever is necessary in terms of sustenance and comfort until they surcumb.

Unsurprisingly, your analogy assumes the mother completely out of existence.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 12:20 pm

Can’t you smell the bullshit in the story? If there was a real problem they would put her on weekly ultrasounds until the situation was entirely clear. A non viable child by definition hardly ever goes anywhere near term.

The fetus is 13 weeks old, so they most likely did do as you say. The situation is now entirely clear, most likely due to the results from an MRI.

You are trying to deny the story exists, because it upsets you that this barbarism is the direct consequence of the policies you support. Man up and face up to who your are, rickw. You want mothers like this to suffer and lack choice.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 12:21 pm

Twitter is saying Cheney will concede in a produced, stage managed setting to a friendly journo.
Not to a press conference as one would imagine.
The Cheney’s live in a bubble & can not exist outside of a bubble.
Time will tell if twitter is correct re the concession.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 12:25 pm

File this under things that wont happen.
There needs to be re-run of the Church committee.
With the added caveats along the lines of whistle blowers keep their pensions & are exempt from prosecution.
That would lead to a cannon ball run of swampies lining up to blab.
But it will never happen.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 12:26 pm

I have zero sympathy for Liz Cheney. You reap what you sow.

Tom
Tom
August 17, 2022 12:27 pm

Its just incredible how all these top down ideas to immiserate people “for their own good” are occurring in every Western nation at once.

A classical propaganda technique, first developed by the Russian Marxists after the 1917 revolution, refined by the Nazis in Hitler’s Germany, and now, with the slavish subservience and co-operation of the American news media, being perfected by the Democratic Party.

It won’t work because it assumes the people being targeted are stupid. It won’t end in a utopian dictatorship of the proletariat, but with civil war — unless the revolutionary zealots are removed from power.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 12:28 pm

But obviously it can’t be a select committee like the original Church committee was.
Select committees now have zero legitimacy post the Jan 6th abomination.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 12:28 pm

“Cheney will concede in a produced, stage managed setting to a friendly journo.”

Of course she will, and we’ll hear no other word apart from….

Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump , Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump , Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump , Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump , Trump

m0nty
August 17, 2022 12:28 pm

The mother and father are expected to provide the sustenance and comfort to their child. This is not difficult to understand.

To a fetus missing half its brain and skull.

Ridiculous.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 12:34 pm

The first move of fascists over history, Lizzie, is to declare their opponents to be communists and thus treasonous non-citizens.

Mao chuckles softly from beyond the grave..
Stalin in stitches.
Pol Pot just screams incoherently as it time for his daily sodomising with the skulls of his victims.

local oaf
August 17, 2022 12:35 pm

The mother and father are expected to provide the sustenance and comfort to their child. This is not difficult to understand.

Precisely.

I know personally of an Australian couple who brought their baby to full term, despite knowing that it would be born with literally no brain – just a spinal cord and brain stem.
They took it home and cared for it until it died about a month after being born.

Winston Smith
August 17, 2022 12:38 pm

HELP!
I recently bought a 60Tb SSD but on examination its 4 15Tb SSD in one enclosure and linked together.
Is it possible to get a RAID driver to link them together in RAID 1/2/3/4?

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 17, 2022 12:39 pm

both the media and the Labor Party can’t forgive Morrison for winning in 2019.
Nothing he says now will change their minds.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 12:41 pm

Their opponents often were genuine communists, M0nty, and there the problem lies. Exposed are both sides of a very nasty coin. Trying to enforce ‘progressive’ views by extra-legal institutional means, which we see happening now in the US, plus deplatforming opponents and denying free speech, is where you personally are at right now. That is the first step towards communism. The Biden administration and the faux ideology it stands for and hides behind (oppressive climatic cult stuff) to impose Marxist stuff stinks to high hell on so many counts and levels. So many in the US are screaming Wrong Way Go Back that it’s no wonder other ‘first steps’ are being mooted in the opposing direction. You and your side are playing with fire, M0nty.

I am sure that many letters to the editor in the early 1970s said much the same things about Watergate, Lizzie. They were wrong, and you are wrong. That is because the Republicans really are crooks, and the law enforcement officers who are working on the case are not communists hellbent on destroying the country.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 12:41 pm

m0nty

A couple of years back I mentioned a couple who had the awful experience of having a twin die at a quite early stage in the pregnancy.
They were given the option of removal of the dead baby (as extreme hazard to remaining bub), abortion of both (considered safest at that stage) or continuing with medical support until surviving bub was far enough along to be delivered (premmie, but not hugely so) along with the dead bub.

They chose option 3.
They have a happy little bub.
If they were “just clumps of cells” creatures like yourself they would have gone the baby mincing route.

Winston Smith
August 17, 2022 12:44 pm

Mother Load:

Aboriginal leader Warren Mundine is being bombarded with hundreds of racial threats and abusive messages every day for opposing the Indigenous Voice to Parliament.

My assumption is that these threats are being forwarded to the authorities?
Yes?
No?

m0nty
August 17, 2022 12:45 pm

You can give me as many anecdotes about parents who made a particular choice as you like, but that misses the point. The point is that they had a choice. You want to take that away from them. Not every case ends well.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 12:45 pm

Cheney’s concession speech is being produced by James Goldston, the producer of the Jan 6th committee.
What’s more concerning?
That the Jan 6th committee has a producer?
Or that all the blue ticks freely admit it on social media?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 17, 2022 12:48 pm

ScoMo battling with the press on Sky.

Not backing down but answers about “why” are fluff.

Clennell trying to be the alpha press boy – dickhead.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 17, 2022 12:49 pm

Crispy fried EV drivers.

Risk of electrocution from electric cars reduced with new technology (Phys.org, 16 Aug)

New technology, developed by researchers at the University of York, has proved successful in reducing the risk of electrocution to drivers and passengers of electric vehicles as a result of damage to the cars in major road accidents.

“The bus voltage in most electric car models is 400V, which is much higher than the voltage in our home systems at 230V, as well as industry levels at 380V.”

“To significantly reduce the risk of a fatal electric shock in the case of a car crash, we need the voltage to be 60V or less and to reduce to that level in under five seconds.”

Following successful mathematically modeling, the technology has now been trialed in a car powertrain testing system—an assembly of all the components that make the car run—and the team showed that voltage is reduced to 60V in under five seconds in the event of damage to circuits. This will ultimately protect drivers and passengers from serious injury or fatal electric shock.

So now you’ll only be fatally electrocuted for 4½ seconds. Isn’t science wonderful?

Dot
Dot
August 17, 2022 12:50 pm

A Cathedral Committee?

Yep.

Run the red ink through the FBI, IRS, CIA, NSA, ATF, DHS, Capitol Police and DOJ.

Dot
Dot
August 17, 2022 12:51 pm

Satanic shit.

it is now an offence for a parent to refuse to support their child’s request for medical treatment that will prevent physical changes from puberty that do not align with the child’s new gender identity, and it is also an offence to deny their child access to any health care services that would affirm that identity.

And in case any parents thought they could seek counselling for their children outside Victoria, the Act now makes that an offence too.

When her father went to the school to get his distraught daughter it took him two hours to convince her to come home to her family, while she sat clutching a rainbow lanyard with the pronouns ‘they/them’ which had been given to her by the school.

During this time a private counsellor she’d been seeing was texting her encouraging her to leave her parents, telling her they were unsafe, and she needed an immediate safety plan and warning her not to let the sexual assault overshadow her gender issues.

https://www.sott.net/article/471055-Distraught-parents-in-Victoria-Australia-now-face-prosecution-if-they-dont-accept-gender-transition-of-their-vulnerable-kids-as-experts-slam-radical-new-law-based-on-ideology-and-falsehood

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 12:51 pm

It’s the only way dot.
But like I said, it won’t happen.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 17, 2022 12:54 pm

“It’s the secrecy we’re upset about.”
Yeah right.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 12:55 pm

Monty.
The parents will be inconvenienced by travel.
Not banned from a procedure.

This being decided at a state level is a good thing.

Might get to Bills idea of “safe, legal, and rare” state by state instead of a shonky lump of legal fiction that tried to be authorative but was decried as bad legal reasoning even by RBG.
Roe v. Wade, in contrast, invited no dialogue with legislators. Instead, it seemed entirely to remove the ball from the legislators’ court. In 1973, when Roe issued, abortion law was in a state of change across the nation. As the Supreme Court itself noted, there was a marked trend in state legislatures “toward liberalization of abortion statutes.” That movement for legislative change ran parallel to another law revision effort then underway-the change from fault to no-fault divorce regimes, a reform that swept through the state legislatures and captured all of them by the mid-1980s.
No measured motion, the Roe decision left virtually no state with laws fully conforming to the Court’s delineation of abortion regulation still permissible. Around that extraordinary decision, a well-organized and vocal right-to-life movement rallied and succeeded, for a considerable time, in turning the legislative tide in the opposite direction.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 12:58 pm

Monty.
The parents will be inconvenienced by travel.
Not banned from a procedure.

This being decided at a state level is a good thing.

Until the Republicans get in office again and make the ban national.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 17, 2022 12:59 pm

The hyenas of the press should reserve their spleen for things wrecking Australia. They aren’t ever exercise about the climate scam or the renewables disaster, which is about to increase power prices again – just before the power system falls over bigly.
Morrison is playing the role of the bear in a session of bear-baiting.
He’s guilty of governing while Christian. Just as well no rosaries were used.

Zipster
Zipster
August 17, 2022 1:01 pm

Until the Republicans get in office again and make the ban national.

if you are worried about it, use a condom

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 1:05 pm

Monty
Until the Republicans get in office again and make the ban national.

And if they were stupid enough to do that (as opposed to removing public funding for abortion clinics) they would be dead cert to lose the next election and the law would be overturned.

Not to mention they would have Buckleys of enforcing the law as it would certainly be resisted state by state by any ‘blue’ legislature.

So by forcing the decision to ban/approve etc to as low a level as possible any changes to state or federal legislation actually has a political consequence.
This should lead to a moderation of policies and sidelining of 100% extremists on both “sides” to the margins.
A great outcome.

Roger
Roger
August 17, 2022 1:06 pm

Elbow celebrating the anniversary of the 1975 Wave Hill land rights case.

Has there ever been an image that captures the Left’s general arrogance and condescension towards aboriginal people in particular than the photo of Gough pouring sand into Vincent Lingiari’s open hands?

Zipster
Zipster
August 17, 2022 1:08 pm
m0nty
August 17, 2022 1:11 pm

And if they were stupid enough to do that (as opposed to removing public funding for abortion clinics) they would be dead cert to lose the next election and the law would be overturned.

Not to mention they would have Buckleys of enforcing the law as it would certainly be resisted state by state by any ‘blue’ legislature.

The obvious solution is to rig elections and crush internal dissent. You know, like Pinochet.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 1:12 pm

31% to a RINO incumbent.
hahahaha, eat a bag of moldy dildoes Cheney.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 17, 2022 1:14 pm

We’ve learnt that as soon as you see anything approximating a fist, you will rush over and batter it relentlessly with your eye sockets.

My brother thought it funny to put out his first and ask me to run into it.

If I was Muttley, I would have.

rosie
rosie
August 17, 2022 1:15 pm

Monty’s views on abortion are revolting, and frankly, evil.
I’m glad his years of mendacious prevarication about his views are over though.
Not having an abortion isn’t exercising a ‘choice’.
Our love for our children should never be conditional on their perfection.
Imagine a world where your right to life is at risk because of your health, or your gender, or mere convenience, in truth that’s Monty’s (and far to many others) world.
I hope he makes it clear to his precious children how truly lucky they were.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 1:16 pm

I thought Baris was taking the piss on twitter.
He said Cheney compared herself to Lincoln.
She did !

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 17, 2022 1:17 pm

The media pack will now recommend a raid on Morro’s house and a search of his wife’s wardrobe.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 1:17 pm

Baris said she’d lose by 28 points.
It’s currently 30.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 17, 2022 1:17 pm

The obvious solution is to rig elections and crush internal dissent. You know, like Pinochet.

Boofhead, Allende had Cuban Marxists murdering Chileans in his attempt to turn Chile into a Marxist shithole. When socialists destroy all peaceful options for disagreement, the only options are socialist enslavement or Pinochet.

Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 1:18 pm

Liz Cheney concedes

And hints that she is going to attempt to run for President (the Lincoln story at 3:50 and the “now the real work begins” bit).

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 1:18 pm

Has there ever been an image that captures the Left’s general arrogance and condescension towards aboriginal people in particular than the photo of Gough pouring sand into Vincent Lingiari’s open hands?

Not that I can think of, no.

https://theconversation.com/an-historic-handful-of-dirt-whitlam-and-the-legacy-of-the-wave-hill-walk-off-63700

Zipster
Zipster
August 17, 2022 1:18 pm

it is now an offence for a parent to refuse to support their child’s request for medical treatment that will prevent physical changes from puberty that do not align with the child’s new gender identity, and it is also an offence to deny their child access to any health care services that would affirm that identity.

purge continues

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
August 17, 2022 1:18 pm

Late mail from a former colleague in the Pilbara.

The $A4 Billion Perdaman urea project on the Burrup Peninsula near Karratha is dead, dead, dead.

Killed off by abo superstition and the watermelons.

rosie
rosie
August 17, 2022 1:18 pm

I get the impression Monty has moved on from giving his expert view on affidavits he’s never read and laws about which he knew nothing a week ago and knows a jot more than nothing this week.
Trump is guilty though!

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 1:19 pm

Cheney did not thank the people of Wyoming.
She so sandy.
I wonder if she’ll publicly embrace her sister now ?

Turnip
Turnip
August 17, 2022 1:20 pm

To a fetus missing half its brain and skull.

……so, a likely democrat vote then?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 1:21 pm

The obvious solution is to rig elections and crush internal dissent. You know, like Pinochet.

You fat headed clown.
The people who manipulated the election were bragging about it.

That’s why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it.

The retarded “its not corrupting the political process when WE do it” is not a defense. Using Zuckerbucks to harvest votes is corruption as well.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 17, 2022 1:23 pm

m0ntysays:
August 17, 2022 at 10:54 am

Dobbs working as intended: to punish and subjugate women.

Poor old mentally defective m0nty.
Even assuming that restrictions on abortion did “punish and subjugate” women, Dobbs didn’t prohibit one single abortion.
Dobbs just affirmed the bleeding obvious, that the Constitution of the USA leaves abortion laws, or the lack of them, to the democratically elected legislatures of each state.
Poor old shiteating m0nty is too stupid to read and understand a very straightforward and simple exposition of plain facts and logic. (That’s if m0nty is intelligent enough to understand that he’d actually need to read Dobbs to be able to comment on it.)

Franx
Franx
August 17, 2022 1:23 pm

A stillbirth leads to a delivery and not an abortion, as could all other forms of diagnosed conditions.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 1:24 pm

Killed off by abo superstition and the watermelons.

Please, give some credit to their ABCcess which ran a non stop daily campaign against it.

Lucky Morriswine increased their funding eh?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 17, 2022 1:24 pm

Turnipsays:
August 17, 2022 at 1:20 pm
To a fetus missing half its brain and skull.

……so, a likely democrat vote then?

Don’t worry, the aborted foetus will get on the electoral roll, and a benevolent “community organiser” will ensure that its vote counts.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 17, 2022 1:25 pm

Cheney did not thank the people of Wyoming.

Well she is the Candidate for Virginia after all.
Maybe she thanked them instead. 😀

(linky)

Roger
Roger
August 17, 2022 1:26 pm

Baris said she’d lose by 28 points.
It’s currently 30.

The last poll I saw before the primary was 22.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Supporters of the “Voice” don’t hold the high moral ground, after all?

“Voice” supporters seem to be cut from the same despicable mould as the SSM supporters.

Lysander
Lysander
August 17, 2022 1:28 pm

Cheney lost. Trump wins again. Sorry, not sorry, NeverTrump losers.

You’re going to get so sick of winning! 😛

Zipster
Zipster
August 17, 2022 1:28 pm

Liz Cheney concedes

And hints that she is going to attempt to run for President

as a democriter?

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 1:28 pm

Roger, that’s why Baris is worth following on twitter with the odd check in on this youtube channel.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 1:30 pm

The people who manipulated the election were bragging about it.

Yeah I’ve seen that article before, what a dumb framing that is. It’s a “conspiracy” by a “cabal” in the “shadows”!!!! Except it was all done out in the open, in bipartisan manner by true patriots. The primary piece of evidence that Molly Ball cites is the joint press release by the CoC and AFL-CIO. It’s a press release sent to the press, not secret notes on a conspiracy!

It’s as if Ball wrote a nice pro-democracy article and some editor came in later and changed some words to make it sound like spooky skulduggery was afoot. Which it wasn’t, you morons, they were doing it in public.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 17, 2022 1:32 pm

m0ntysays:
August 17, 2022 at 12:58 pm
Monty.
[The parents will be inconvenienced by travel.
Not banned from a procedure.

This being decided at a state level is a good thing.]

Until the Republicans get in office again and make the ban national.

It may not be Constitutionally impossible, but perhaps you could set out exactly what Constitutional basis you consider there would be for such a national ban.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 17, 2022 1:33 pm

It’s going to take a purge of Pinochet proportions to save the US now.
Winston, there aren’t nearly enough helicopters or Jet A1. Bullets are cheap.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 1:33 pm

Baris just tweeted the margin is going to get bigger.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 1:33 pm

Even assuming that restrictions on abortion did “punish and subjugate” women, Dobbs didn’t prohibit one single abortion.

So you’re saying that the entire point of Dobbs is to punish and subjugate women. Fair enough, Tim N.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 1:34 pm

It may not be Constitutionally impossible, but perhaps you could set out exactly what Constitutional basis you consider there would be for such a national ban.

Alito doesn’t need to justify himself. He’s got the votes, so shut up.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 17, 2022 1:35 pm

m0ntysays:
August 17, 2022 at 1:30 pm

m0nty, just because someone brags about a crime doesn’t mean it’s not a crime.
The assertion is that the election was rigged, not that the rigging of the election was kept a closely guarded secret.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 1:39 pm

Keep on believing the Big Lie. See how far that gets you.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 1:39 pm

Killed off by abo superstition and the watermelons.

Cave paintings and Stone Age songlines are more important then affordable fertilizer……Voice to Parliament? What Voice?

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 1:40 pm

Baris was not active in Alaska so no idea on what’s meant to happen there.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The assertion is that the election was rigged, not that the rigging of the election was kept a closely guarded secret.

Yair, it was hardly secret.
The size of the Trump win was so great the usual cheating wasn’t going to be enough to overturn the result, so it had to be done in the open.

Nailing up impromptu curtains, plywood over windows, no observerts/scrutineers allowed, all made it bluddee clear what was going on.

rosie
rosie
August 17, 2022 1:40 pm

Monty is all in for abortion at any time, for any reason.
Because anything less ‘punishes and subjugates women’.
He’s not fooling anyone.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 17, 2022 1:41 pm

I have zero sympathy for Liz Cheney. You reap what you sow.

Indeed, she was about power and gain. Why should I feel the slightest twinge of sadness that a selfish person doesn’t get their selfish goals at the expense of others.

There is nothing there to sympathise with.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
August 17, 2022 1:42 pm

Adam Piggott gives the Cat a shout-out of sorts.
He is pretty much spot on. RTWT

There is no middle ground with the LGBTQ brigade

Catallaxy Files is the Australian version of Ace of Normies. Most of the writers and commentators on the site are of the deluded conservative type… Not all of them are so deluded, but enough of them are so as to make the generalisation accurate.

Roger
Roger
August 17, 2022 1:44 pm

And hints that she is going to attempt to run for President

Quite possibly the worst case of TDS yet seen.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 17, 2022 1:46 pm

Keep on believing the Big Lie.

‘mUnter is a productive and contributing member of society, who has held plenty of real jobs and is qualified to speak on geopolitics.’

Oh. My mistake. That was a different Big Lie.

Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 1:46 pm

Cheney margin of loss with 80% of the votes counted is 31%

First polls in Alaska close on the hour. The rest 1 hour later.

Who ever is updating that chart at CNN must be grinding their teeth.

Tom
Tom
August 17, 2022 1:48 pm

Cassie, if you’re about, do you know anything about Nomi Kaltmann, a 30-year-old Jewish mother of three and a former ANU academic and ALP apparatchik, who is resigning from the ALP to contest the November Victorian state election for the Teals? She sounds like a typical “educated” female who has succumbed to the climate doom religion.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
August 17, 2022 1:54 pm

Tanya Plibersek urged to block $4.5b fertiliser plant proposal amid fears for rock art

Rock art trumps fertilizer shortage and food production?

Lysander
Lysander
August 17, 2022 1:54 pm

Is Monty still arguing the Reinhart judge was “appointed by Trump” lol!!!?

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 1:56 pm
Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 1:57 pm

Elon Musk
@elonmusk

Also, I’m buying Manchester United ur welcome
7:01 PM · Aug 16, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

No idea if he is serious or not but that’ll rattle some brains.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
August 17, 2022 1:57 pm

Includes video

Corey Norman’s rugby league career could be over, with the former Queensland State of Origin player being given a lengthy Super League ban for “inappropriate contact”.

Norman has been hit with an eight-game ban after being found guilty of intentionally placing a hand between the buttocks of Warrington’s Oliver Holmes during a match on Thursday.

The act was compared to similar offences by 1990s rugby league star John Hopoate, who became infamous for a similar act.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 17, 2022 1:59 pm

Of course she will, and we’ll hear no other word apart from….

Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump , Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump , Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump , Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump , Trump

When the villain is caught and they tend to rail against the hero who brought them down.

Trump’s fans will love him all the more, and his enemies already hated him.

Will anyone really be sad about Cheney losing? The Democrats just used her as a patsy so they could pretend their excursions into tyranny were actually bipartisan positions and therefore no further restraint is required. They never liked or cared for her personally.

The other RINO’s will be more nervous because for all the muck being flung at Trump he seems to grow stronger, and will be feverishly trying to calculate how they might be able to save their own ample arses.

That was her fan base.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 2:01 pm

Old Monty: Cabals of businessmen unduly influence elections with dark money.

New Monty: Cabals of Businessmen Fortify our elections with dark money.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQn0vOD4ZMk9oK5bvt1KPtaY1SmlIK9HadN_g&usqp=CAU

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2022 2:03 pm

Defence News indicates that it’s specifically The Luftwaffe that are coming to play.

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 2:04 pm

Anencephaly is one of those tragic, though remote, possibilities for parents. What would you do if the child you were carrying was, without doubt, a victim of this cruel condition?

I was all gung-ho about it, yapping on about brave parents caring for the child until it died, sometimes hours after birth. That was until my dear friend, to whom I was so self-righteously pontificating, told me with tears in her eyes that her daughter had to make the decision to terminate her pregnancy because of it. A difficult, heartbreaking decision.

The problem is that the rare instance is used as a benchmark for all terminations for whatever spurious reason up until birth.

will
will
August 17, 2022 2:04 pm

Liz Cheney concedes

And hints that she is going to attempt to run for President

as a democriter?

No. She will be funded by the usual fascists to run as a third party candidate and split the Republican vote. or at least that will be the strategy

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 2:05 pm

Cheney goooorne?

Oh. So sad.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 2:07 pm

“Tomsays:
August 17, 2022 at 1:48 pm
Cassie, if you’re about, do you know anything about Nomi Kaltmann, a 30-year-old Jewish mother of three and a former ANU academic and ALP apparatchik, who is resigning from the ALP to contest the November Victorian state election for the Teals? She sounds like a typical “educated” female who has succumbed to the climate doom religion.”

I don’t know her Tom however she sounds like one of those awful progressives…and let me tell you, there’s nothing worse than a progressive Jew. Is she going up against David Southwick in Caulfield? If so, then you’d want Southwick to win. Southwick is also Jewish. Again, this puts a lie to the Teals that the teals are “Liberals”. They are not Liberals, they are Greens.

Also, is Caulfield in Goldstein? I’d be interested to see the 21 May booth results from Caulfield, there’s a lot of religious Jews in Caulfield, many of whom aren’t enamoured of ex-ABC and Israel hater, Zoo Daniel.

Lysander
Lysander
August 17, 2022 2:07 pm

Further proof their ABC has no connection to reality:

Ms Cheney’s defeat would have been unthinkable just two years ago.

She hails from one of the most prominent political families in Wyoming.

In Washington, she was an influential voice in Republican politics and policy, with a sterling conservative voting record.

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 2:08 pm

Tanya Plibersek urged to block $4.5b fertiliser plant proposal amid fears for rock art

Rock art trumps fertilizer shortage and food production?

Let them eat dust.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 2:08 pm

Rock art trumps fertilizer shortage and food production?

I do hope the indigenous, demanding that rock art and song lines do take priority over fertilizer, obtain their food using traditional hunter gatherer methods, and not food produced using “whitefella” fertilizer..

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 17, 2022 2:09 pm

Liz Cheney has the look of someone who doesn’t like shit sandwiches. Close your eyes, pinch your nose and enjoy it. It tastes the same as the shit you’ve been sering up to the voters so enjoy.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 17, 2022 2:09 pm

m0ntysays:
August 17, 2022 at 1:33 pm
[Even assuming that restrictions on abortion did “punish and subjugate” women, Dobbs didn’t prohibit one single abortion.]

So you’re saying that the entire point of Dobbs is to punish and subjugate women. Fair enough, Tim N.

Poor old zero IQ failure.
This effort by m0nty would have to be the Platonic archetype of Dunning-Kruger effect lack of comprehension skills.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 17, 2022 2:11 pm

Serving

Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 2:12 pm

Cheney goooorne?

She’s got 4 months and 14 days left in office. A portion of which will be while the Congress is in recess after the Nov mid-terms and the holiday break.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 2:14 pm

GreyRangasays:
August 17, 2022 at 2:09 pm
Liz Cheney has the look of someone who doesn’t like shit sandwiches. Close your eyes, pinch your nose and enjoy it. It tastes the same as the shit you’ve been sering up to the voters so enjoy.

Tonight, We Dance, The Insufferable Liz Cheney Has Been Crushed and Cast into The Trash Heap of History
August 16, 2022 | Sundance | 135 Comments
LIZ CHENEY CRUSHED!
The Great MAGA King said once before, “out, get her out,… and keep her coat.”

The sanctimonious pontificating pustule of political pomposity has been lanced. Liz Cheney is cast out of congress by the voters of Wyoming. Always keep reminding the Cheney folks that it was the voters of Wyoming who threw her out (they hate that), and it wasn’t even close. Liz Cheney was rebuked.

Wyoming Primary Election Results
Jump to: U.S. HouseState Legislature
Give this article

U.S. House At-Large District
Representative Liz Cheney, a Republican who has been the public face of the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, is expected to lose renomination to Harriet Hageman, a rival backed by former President Donald J. Trump.
Republican Primary
Updated just now
78% REPORTED
Candidate Votes Pct.
Harriet Hageman
90,279 +65.1%65.1%
Liz Cheney*
42,040 +30.3%30.3
Anthony Bouchard
3,522 +2.5%2.5
Total reported
138,675

Tom
Tom
August 17, 2022 2:17 pm

I don’t know her Tom however she sounds like one of those awful progressives…and let me tell you, there’s nothing worse than a progressive Jew. Is she going up against David Southwick in Caulfield? If so, then you’d want Southwick to win. Southwick is also Jewish. Again, this puts a lie to the Teals that the teals are “Liberals”. They are not Liberals, they are Greens.

Yes, Cassie, she is going up against Southwick in the state seat of Caulfield which, as you say, is the Melbourne suburban capital of Jewry.

PS: Because Melbourne has such a large Jewish community, Israeli state carrier El Al is about to begin regular non-stops between Melbourne and Tel Aviv using long-range Boeing 787 Dreamliners.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 17, 2022 2:18 pm

Further proof their ABC has no connection to reality:

You would think that their constantly getting American politics wrong they would be a little more guarded in their commentary.

Ms Cheney’s defeat would have been unthinkable just two years ago.

No, it was not. At lease not outside the ABC bubble. Well, perhaps the rest of the MSM was similarly deluded, but they really do not comprise as much of discourse as they think. The MSM seems to still feel there are four TV networks and three daily newspapers and no one in Australia can see beyond those walls.

She hails from one of the most prominent political families in Wyoming.

They do love their dynasties, and really think politicians can bequeath their seats to others in their family like kings because that is the basis of rule.

In Washington, she was an influential voice in Republican politics and policy, with a sterling conservative voting record.

The ABC detests conservatives. They have a ridiculous ill-informed caricaturish understanding of them. Yet they say that conservative describes Cheney’s voting record?

JC
JC
August 17, 2022 2:18 pm

Also, is Caulfield in Goldstein?

Yes, it’s part of Goldstein and the main drag for hardcore orthodox & Hasidim is Ripponlea, which is also part of Caulfield. David is a nice dude, My kid used to volunteer for him. I’m just guessing, but I can’t see the teal tarts doing well with this voter cohort.

Lysander
Lysander
August 17, 2022 2:19 pm

LOL no. The big tell on that one is how Trump in office did very little to help the working class, and signed bills designed to help the rich like himself.

Rolling Stone magazine is your source of this quote Muntrake? Seriously?

You wouldn’t have made it past any 101 unit at university dickhead.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 17, 2022 2:19 pm

m0ntysays:
August 17, 2022 at 1:34 pm
[It may not be Constitutionally impossible, but perhaps you could set out exactly what Constitutional basis you consider there would be for such a national ban.]

Alito doesn’t need to justify himself. He’s got the votes, so shut up.

English translation: m0nty’s got no idea, but EEEEEVIL conservatives so there.
The poor old halfwit is just too stupid to understand the proper role of a Court of appeal and the manner in which the Dobbs majority judgment epitomised the proper performance of that role.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 2:22 pm

Donald Trump is the dynasty slayer:

George Papadopoulos
@GeorgePapa19
When Liz Cheney is sent packing tonight by Wyoming’s voters, it will be the first time in over a hundred years we will no longer have any Bush’s, McCain’s, Cheney’s or Clinton’s in office!

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 17, 2022 2:23 pm

Since when has the mainly left-green media had a problem with a gas project being cancelled?
Oh, since Morro did it. Right.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 2:24 pm

Another Huge Red Flag in the Trump Raid Story

When he spoke to the media on Thursday, Attorney General Merrick Garland took offense to those who questioned the professionalism and integrity of the Department of Justice and the FBI.

“Let me address recent unfounded attacks on the professionalism of the FBI and Justice Department agents and prosecutors,” he said. “I will not stand by silently when their integrity is unfairly attacked. The men and women of the FBI and the Justice Department are dedicated patriotic public servants every day. They protect the American people from violent crime, terrorism and other threats to their safety while safeguarding our civil rights. They do so at great personal sacrifice and risk to themselves. I am honored to work alongside them.”

Well, Mr. Attorney General, if they’re so professional and full of integrity, can you explain why the Wall Street Journal apparently knows the contents of all the classified documents and supposedly “top secret” documents removed from Trump’s home and has apparently reviewed some of them?

“FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home Monday removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as top secret and meant to be only available in special government facilities, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal,” the outlet reported. “The Federal Bureau of Investigation agents took around 20 boxes of items, binders of photos, a handwritten note and the executive grant of clemency for Mr. Trump’s ally Roger Stone, a list of items removed from the property shows. Also included in the list was information about the ‘President of France,’ according to the three-page list. The list is contained in a seven-page document that also includes the warrant to search the premises which was granted by a federal magistrate judge in Florida.”

Gee, if these documents were so incredibly sensitive and secret that the FBI had to conduct an armed raid of Trump’s home in order to retrieve them, how come the press is allowed to know the nature of the documents?

These documents are apparently too sensitive for Trump to possess but not so sensitive that FBI agents can’t show them off to the media.

Barry
Barry
August 17, 2022 2:24 pm

Southwick’s on a margin of 0.1%. He was out front of Coles in Glenhuntly Rd this week begging for attention.

He’s seen the recent redistribution that turns Goldstein notionally Labor.

He’s seen the State Teals.

He’s received many letters from traditionally Liberal voters who tell him in no uncertain terms that he failed to take a stand in the pandemic, and therefore he would go the way of Tim Wilson.

This is why he must fail.

JC
JC
August 17, 2022 2:24 pm

Fatboy, the latest anti-Trump attack by the left is now being referred to as the 13th Hoax. Catchy, no?

Also to remind remind you, you oversized doofus is that you fell for the other 12 hoaxes. You big fat idiot.

Trump stole the nuclear secrets and has been found to be negotiated to Putin for sale. Did you read that one Monst?

Winston Smith
August 17, 2022 2:27 pm

Anchor What:
W.S.

“It’s the secrecy we’re upset about.”

A.W.

Yeah right.

Genuine question, AW – Why would you not be suspicious of a Politician who kept a secret from the electorate – one which gave him extraordinary powers of coercion?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 2:27 pm

Wyoming GOP At-Large
Votes Percent (94%)
Hageman 99,409 65.8
Cheney Inc 44,473 29.4

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 2:28 pm

Helluva margin.

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 2:29 pm

The Tribe Has Spoken.

JC
JC
August 17, 2022 2:29 pm

This is why he must fail.

Excellent idea, Baz. Let’s try to stop the left by supporting teal tarts who are even further left than the Liars party and perhaps even the greenscum. This is the sort of logic that ought to make its way to a comedy routine.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 2:30 pm

After Waco, Reno was ridiculed on SNL for being such a tard.
After MAL, will SNL portray Garland as a fool? Zero chance even though there is ample reason to.

JC
JC
August 17, 2022 2:32 pm

Wyoming GOP At-Large
Votes Percent (94%)
Hageman 99,409 65.8
Cheney Inc 44,473 29.4

Great, great news. That fat peroxideed bitch needed to taste dirt in the worst way possible. As for her father, what a traitorous old piece of shit he turned out to be begging demonrats to vote for the fat slob.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 2:32 pm

The instruments by which Scott Morrison MP, was appointed to portfolios other than Prime Minister

From the Comments

– There was no additional remuneration involved, no constitutional law broken, no other laws broken.

The Governor General has confirmed that no constitutional law was broken, and that he would not have done what the PM requested if there had been.

But once again there is an example of the media pack and an opposition mode political witch hunt and that surely indicates that the Albanese Government is taking advantage of a diversion from the many serious issues they are now responsible for dealing with.

Listening to talkback radio comments, with some exceptions of people who are voices of reason and common sense, once again the lack of knowledge of Constitution, areas of responsibility and powers and generally poorly informed was obvious.

A group of us discussed the present general situation nationally and globally last night and that we are heading downhill and it will get worse as the left side of politics gains strength because voters choose that side, like dark greens now strengthened by pale greens and the two supporting Labor where most are leftists. And not leaving the Coalition out, many of those MPs are leftists, just not as far left as Labor and dark greens, about the same as the pale greens, and otherwise known as LINO left.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 2:32 pm

Victorian Cats should listen to the Great One & put all sitting members last.
Because it works so well in all other elections.

Barry
Barry
August 17, 2022 2:33 pm

JC,
My vote either way will make no difference.

The way the wind is blowing is that Southwick is yesterday’s man after November, like 50% of the Liberal members will be, like Tim Wilson is.

The trend is your friend, as you’d know.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 2:33 pm

“PS: Because Melbourne has such a large Jewish community, Israeli state carrier El Al is about to begin regular non-stops between Melbourne and Tel Aviv using long-range Boeing 787 Dreamliners.”

Good news. That won’t make the Jew haters happy, I always love it when Jew haters are miserable.

Further to Jew hatred and Jew haters and the murder of Jews by terrorist scum, a hatred which one commentator here thinks is “legitimate”, it’s coming up to fifty years since the wholesale slaughter of innocent Jews at the Munich Olympic Games. I remember it well, I was a child, my whole family were glued to the television and I remember my father openly weeping. One of the murdered Jews was a young man named Andre Spitzer, he was a fencing champion. Andre was newly married with a young baby (a girl), his wife was Dutch. This morning, his widow Ankie was interviewed on Israeli television and she reminded people that the Germans had prior intelligence about the the attack (East Germany was intimately involved in the attack, helping their Arab friends) and what was worse, when Israel, desperate to save it’s men from certain death at the hands of the terrorist scum, was prevented from doing anything by the Germans. And what ensued? We all know, ALL the Israelis died.

I’ll stop there as I getting upset.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 2:35 pm

“Yes, it’s part of Goldstein and the main drag for hardcore orthodox & Hasidim is Ripponlea, which is also part of Caulfield. David is a nice dude, My kid used to volunteer for him. I’m just guessing, but I can’t see the teal tarts doing well with this voter cohort.”

Thanks JC…..I know Ripponlea. The “Frum” won’t vote for a Teal.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 17, 2022 2:35 pm

You have to wonder (well, you don’t really) how much this debacle of the FBI’s doing is affecting other, legitimate operations. The effect on morale and credibility cannot be small. And especially as, the lower down you go, the more the agents are in contact with real people who are shaking their heads at clown parade.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 2:35 pm

Munich was a great movie.
Until the end with the Hollywood twist “are we no better than them” horseshit.

JC
JC
August 17, 2022 2:36 pm

Baz

That’s not what you said the first time that i responded to. It was this:

This is why he must fail.

So let’s watch a Teal burrow in and see the parliament head even further left. But I’m just repeating myself.

Lysander
Lysander
August 17, 2022 2:38 pm

Breaking!

Fox has called Arizona for Cheney! 😛

(stolen from twitter)

Barry
Barry
August 17, 2022 2:39 pm

“PS: Because Melbourne has such a large Jewish community, Israeli state carrier El Al is about to begin regular non-stops between Melbourne and Tel Aviv using long-range Boeing 787 Dreamliners.”

I don’t like El Al, mainly because everyone always applauds when the plane lands. I find that offputting to say the least. The also used to run third party 747s that were so old they still had ashtrays installed in the toilets.

Cathay Pacific Premium Economy used to be the best deal if you didn’t want El Al, but that may have changed.

vr
vr
August 17, 2022 2:39 pm

Also, is Caulfield in Goldstein? I’d be interested to see the 21 May booth results from Caulfield, there’s a lot of religious Jews in Caulfield, many of whom aren’t enamoured of ex-ABC and Israel hater, Zoo Daniel.

Not sure of North Caulfield, but South Caulfield definitely is in Goldstein.

JC
JC
August 17, 2022 2:40 pm

Thanks JC…..I know Ripponlea. The “Frum” won’t vote for a Teal.

Funny, I was on the way to the family business this morning and stopped to get a coffee in Ripponlea. There’s a nice place near the station. There must be a nice bakery in the strip as there were perhaps 20 people lined up to buy a loaf (I presume).

Also, one of the world’s top rated restaurants is in the strip. Attica.

Winston Smith
August 17, 2022 2:41 pm

Zyconoclast:

Rock art trumps fertilizer shortage and food production?

Of course it does – if your aim is to cut food production and allow people to starve.

Don’t look at what they say they want – look at what they do will achieve.

Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 2:41 pm

what a traitorous old piece of shit he turned out to be begging demonrats to vote for the fat slob.

JC, it wouldn’t have made a difference if every Dem who voted today had voted for her.

Total Dem voters today – 6000 ish
Total Rep voters today – 155,000 ish

She lost by 58,000 ish votes.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 2:41 pm

Malaysian Airlines is the way to go.
They’ve had all their bad luck.
Clear skies from here on !

JC
JC
August 17, 2022 2:43 pm

Zat

Yea, but didn’t stop the treasonous old coot from begging demons to vote for that fat slob of her daughter.

vr
vr
August 17, 2022 2:44 pm

Funny, I was on the way to the family business this morning and stopped to get a coffee in Ripponlea. There’s a nice place near the station. There must be a nice bakery in the strip as there were perhaps 20 people lined up to buy a loaf (I presume).

Sprout and the place across from station are nice. I think Firebird is the bakery you are referrimg to.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 2:45 pm

The problem is that the rare instance is used as a benchmark for all terminations for whatever spurious reason up until birth.

Edge cases like ancephaly highlight the intransigence and illogic of the conservative position.

They don’t care if the “child” is literally missing its brain; its needs take absolute precedence over the mother, every time. Women must be forced against their will to obey rules set by religious extremists based on rough interpretations of Scripture written in a foreign language thousands of years ago.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2022 2:45 pm

There must be a nice bakery in the strip as there were perhaps 20 people lined up to buy a loaf (I presume).

Do they use Australian death wheat?

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2022 2:46 pm

m0nty-fa

“did very little to help the working class,”

Other than giving them a voice, and improving their employment prospects.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 2:46 pm

Want to Return to Normalcy? Defund and Dismantle the FBI

It’s time to stop pretending that the Federal Bureau of Investigation is not fatally compromised, that it is salvageable, that it has not terminally declined from its glory days of commie-chasing and cross-dressing into a collection of regime toadies eagerly doing its Democrat masters’ bidding. GOP, you need to stop equivocating and playing footsie with these mediocrities in bad suits. After you take the House and Senate, refuse to fund the FBI. Not one dime. This must all end.

The FBI has simply outlived its uselessness. It must be shut down, in disgrace, and those duties that remain necessary must be parceled out to existing or new agencies that do not share its shameful legacy. This remedy is harsh, disruptive, even scary – count on the FBI and its friends to not-so-subtly promise retaliation against those trying to turn it off like the astronauts when they tried to pull the plug on HAL 9000. But it has to be done. This cannot go on – every day, the politicized FBI does grave damage to the foundations of American democracy (though we’re actually a republic, but whatever).

It’s a big ask from a GOP caucus that can’t even put together the testicle collection necessary to defund the propaganda arm of the Chardonnay and Volvos set, NPR. For decades we have been pushing the simps and squishes in Congress to get done this bare minimum response to a federally funded airwave adjunct of the Democratic Party. They haven’t. But the sissy socialists on the radio are just a mere nuisance, while the FBI is an existential threat to our most basic liberties.

Hey, ho, the FBI has got to go.

Its Boston division was bought by Whitey Bulger and one of its agents went away for murder. Gee, Trump might have been keeping secret nuke papers in Melania’s undies drawer? How about Robert Hansen, whose spying for the Russians was hailed as “possibly the worst intelligence disaster in U.S. history?” It only took the Bureau a couple of decades to find the guy in their own office who literally gave the Russians every double agent in its ranks, but these gumshoes are all over that nefarious Trump!

And then there’s Waco and Ruby Ridge.

And say, how’s that Las Vegas investigation going? And what is with knowing about the 9/11 hijackers and pretty much every school shooter?

And what gives with framing some near-homeless ne’er-do-wells for trying to kidnap the Stepford gov?

And faking warrants based on a fake dossier?

But hey, if you took a selfie on J6, the FBI is all over you.

The GOP Congress must put the FBI out of our misery, the misery of normal Americans tired of incompetence and paying for a coterie of over-praised political hatchet-men doing the ruling caste’s dirty work.

But will the GOP generate the stones to do it?

Zatara
Zatara
August 17, 2022 2:46 pm

Absolutely true JC. Not only her old man, but several Dem Congresspeople from other states asked their people to vote for her as well.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 2:50 pm

JCsays:
August 17, 2022 at 2:36 pm
Baz
So let’s watch a Teal burrow in and see the parliament head even further left. But I’m just repeating myself.

Embrace the suck.
Accelerate the decline!!

Lysander
Lysander
August 17, 2022 2:51 pm

The US(eless) Centre for US Studies goes wrongology yet again (someone should let Hendo know):

But there have been signs in 2022 that grip is not as strong as it looked. While many Republican candidates have sought Trump’s endorsement by declaring he won the 2020 election, Trump-backed candidates have had mixed fortunes in the Republican primaries.

calli
calli
August 17, 2022 2:52 pm

That was an awesome effort in twisting what I said in good faith, m0nty. I am a conservative. I am also, what you would dub, a “religious extremist”.

Yet I can see and sympathise with the other side of the problem.

It must be very inconvenient to come up against someone who isn’t an idiotic cardboard cutout.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 2:52 pm

A Florida appellate court on Monday blocked a 16-year-old teenager from getting an abortion, saying that she is not “sufficiently mature” to choose to end her pregnancy.

JC
JC
August 17, 2022 2:52 pm

Do they use Australian death wheat?

I hope not. Duodenal cancer is a horrid way to die and survival rates are really low. Aussie wheat – the silent killer.

JC
JC
August 17, 2022 2:53 pm

Lol.. It’s Liz Lincoln now.

Liz Cheney: “Abraham Lincoln was defeated in elections for the Senate and House before he won the most important election of all.”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 17, 2022 2:53 pm

Zatarasays:
August 17, 2022 at 2:41 pm
what a traitorous old piece of shit he turned out to be begging demonrats to vote for the fat slob.

JC, it wouldn’t have made a difference if every Dem who voted today had voted for her.

Total Dem voters today – 6000 ish
Total Rep voters today – 155,000 ish

She lost by 58,000 ish votes.

Analysis From Our Reporters

Trip Gabriel 10:39 PM ET
One stark data point in Wyoming: Cheney is winning Teton County, one of two counties in the state won by President Biden, with about 80 percent of the vote. It means many Democratic voters there crossed over to support her today.

m0nty
August 17, 2022 2:53 pm

It must be very inconvenient to come up against someone who isn’t an idiotic cardboard cutout.

There are a lot of those here, calli.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 2:54 pm

Women must be forced against their will to obey rules set by religious extremists based on rough interpretations of Scripture written in a foreign language thousands of years ago.

Thou shalt not kill.

I supose that could have been misinterpreted from “unless you are a pregnant woman, in which case thou shalt abort right up until birth”

You dribbling retard.

Lysander
Lysander
August 17, 2022 2:54 pm

What’s particularly funny about some of these outcomes is the Dems openly funded the “moderate” RINO’s against Trump-backed Republicans.

That’s not quite a Monty rake, but not far off.

Winston Smith
August 17, 2022 2:55 pm

Feelthebern:

Do they use Australian death wheat?

Yes, they do, FTB.
…and a leavening of Chitin Flour too.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2022 2:55 pm

Wyoming not Arizona called for Cheyney.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2022 2:55 pm

“Leaning right into fascism, I see.

The illness of the fascist left is the medicine to to cure it?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 17, 2022 2:56 pm

Until the end with the Hollywood twist “are we no better than them” horseshit.

There has been a sad loss of some faculty, that there is a lack of confidence whereby Hollywood (and many besides) are too timid to depict a righteous act. They will always try to nick its Achilles tendon to hobble it a bit, to make it less good, less admirable, less glorious, to bring it down to our current level. No one can ever have been great.

Sadder still – they consider that this is the adult way of looking at the world. Emotional cripples.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 2:56 pm

“This is why he must fail.”

Why? And you end up with another Teal, you’ll have a Teal federally and state. No thanks. I’m in Wentworth and we now have a Stepford Skank Teal as our federal member. I don’t want a Teal state member.

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