Open Thread – Tues 16 Aug 2022


Mount Aetna from Taormina, Thomas Cole, 1843

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 17, 2022 9:21 pm

I knew David and Gillian Helfgott also met a sister, not Margaret, Marie Louise I think. Pretty awful things were said about Gillian but I only saw she really cared about him. His sister disagreed with some of the things he said and I don’t know if David really remembered or not. This was in the early 80’s. It was good to see him getting his life back together and I doubt he would have if not for Gillian.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

1. In January 2021 you supported Donald Trump being booted off Twitter.

2. Last year you and your wet mates pressured Scumbag to ban offshore oil and gas drilling here in NSW.

3. Last year you and your wet mates pressured Scumbag to adopt “net zero emissions”.

4. In February of this year you and your wet mates crossed the floor to vote against the Religious Freedom Bill.

5. In April of this year you supported your great “conservative” mate, Matt Kean, with his smears against Katherine Deves when she was preselected for Warringah. You even agreed with Kean that she should be disendorsed.

6. In May of this year your government was rejected by the Australian people & you personally were rejected by the voters of your electorate.
Ponder why this may have happened.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 9:27 pm

“I knew David and Gillian Helfgott also met a sister, not Margaret, Marie Louise I think. Pretty awful things were said about Gillian but I only saw she really cared about him. His sister disagreed with some of the things he said and I don’t know if David really remembered or not. This was in the early 80’s. It was good to see him getting his life back together and I doubt he would have if not for Gillian.”

Margaret lives in Israel. She disputed the characterisation of her and David’s father in the film Shine. She thought it was inaccurate and unfair.

Gillian took control of David’s life, which is what he needed. However it was not all benign.

Zipster
August 17, 2022 9:29 pm

How many of Biden’s new IRS agents will be packing heat — and how many of us will they target?

grind them between inflation and taxation… and if they try and escape, shoot them

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 17, 2022 9:31 pm

Ricardo’s was a bar and restaurant. Used to eat there every 2-3 weeks for quite a while.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 9:37 pm

“Ricardo’s was a bar and restaurant”

Yes. Do you remember the Red Parrot and the Silver Slipper?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 9:39 pm

Albanese thinks this is OK

Michael Smith News. The “Aboriginal” flag, Albo in the middle, and the T.S.I flag. The Australian flag? Not to be seen.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 17, 2022 9:41 pm

It wasn’t Margaret that said it at the time Cassie. This was long before the movie came out. I’d heard Gillian was dominating but to me seemed more like putting structure in his life.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2022 9:42 pm

m0nty-fa

This position is supported by a tiny minority only.

What is the scale of support among pro-aborts for full term abortion, sex selective abortion, and lifestyle abortion?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 17, 2022 9:44 pm

Red Parrot rings a bell but not the Silver Slipper.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2022 9:45 pm

Munty, you should train up and become an abortionist, you absolutely love it you sick fat fuck.

shatterzzz
August 17, 2022 9:46 pm

How repulsive can AOC get .. FFS!

https://ibb.co/gv5gqG6

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2022 9:47 pm

“It wasn’t Margaret that said it at the time Cassie. This was long before the movie came out. I’d heard Gillian was dominating but to me seemed more like putting structure in his life.”

I know for a fact that Margaret and others were upset at the depiction of David’s father. Margaret wrote a book in the late 1990s about the “myths of Shine” and there were many.

And yes, Gillian was dominating but he needed a mother figure. She provided that.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 17, 2022 9:47 pm

I can hardly remember where I lived.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 17, 2022 9:47 pm

Shane Fitzsimmons, formerly of the Fire Brigade & now boss of “Resilience NSW” oversaw what is arguably the most spectacular example of being asleep at the wheel & being caught totally & completely with your pants down anyone would ever see.

So far.

Dot
Dot
August 17, 2022 9:48 pm

Ponder why this may have happened.

“Contemplate this, on the tree of woe..”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 17, 2022 9:55 pm

Central Whitlam sacking figure Sir David Smith dies
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David Smith, the respected public servant who served as official secretary to five governors-general from 1973 to 1990, has died.

Sir David was at the centre of the dismissal of the Whitlam government in 1975 as secretary to then governor-general John Kerr, tasked with reading out the formal proclamation of the dissolution of parliament.

That proclamation, which included the phrase “God save the Queen”, prompted Gough Whitlam’s famous remark: “Well may we say ‘God save the Queen’, because nothing will save the governor-general.”

Born in Melbourne in 1933 to Polish immigrant parents, Sir David entered the public service in 1953 and received a knighthood in 1990.

shatterzzz
August 17, 2022 9:56 pm

Getting harder and harder to find any worthwhile TV to download these days and so tonight had my first taste of “Bollywood” and thoroughly enjoyed it … SHOORVEER .. an 8 (30min) episodes covert ops/top gun extravaganza .. Hallmark smoochy mixed in with some serious action and pretty good airplane stunts even the script is decent all coming together to make a very watchable & enjoyable series .. 8/10
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21217736/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2022 10:05 pm

Spent the afternoon in the plant, now fully appreciate the extent of the abortion of the Germans design.

FMD, it’s horrendous.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Knuckle Dragger says: August 17, 2022 at 9:47 pm

Shane Fitzsimmons, formerly of the Fire Brigade & now boss of “Resilience NSW” oversaw what is arguably the most spectacular example of being asleep at the wheel & being caught totally & completely with your pants down anyone would ever see.

So far.

Quite so.

Frank
Frank
August 17, 2022 10:27 pm

Red Parrot and the Silver Slipper?

Oooh yes. Notorious.

Jorge
Jorge
August 17, 2022 10:28 pm

Dover, the planted pipe bombs (there were two, right ? one outside the DNC and one near the RNC) are unexplained in the videos. Nobody seems to know why they were there though Tucker’s guest seems to suggest that the report of the RNC bomb lured police away from the Capitol.

But there must have been a lot more going on than just that.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 17, 2022 10:31 pm

Monty: no one will vote for abortion restrictions…

Also Monty: republicans will pass laws restricting abortion if they are elected…

Bifurcation of the brain. Able to gibber 2 mutually opposing ideas as though they can exist in the same space?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 17, 2022 10:40 pm

A reminder that 2028 is going to absolutely go off!
https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1559533945322147842

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 17, 2022 11:01 pm

Off we go again. Fresh from victory in getting rid of Premier Crowther’s statue, another:

…monument which Ms Mansell hopes is taken down is in Launceston, a plaque which suggests Tasmania was discovered by Abel Tasman.

She said the plaque was going to be taken down but wasn’t.

“Peter Gutwein intervened and overrode the decision,” Ms Mansell said.

“Obviously that’s an actual error to claim a white man discovered an island that had been owned by Aboriginal people for 60,000 years prior to him sailing in on his tall ship.”

Ms Mansell has written to Premier Jeremy Rockliff to remove the plaque.

“To now see the Hobart City Council make such a historic move, the pressure should be on him to remove the plaque,” Ms Mansell said.

Obviously if this one goes ahead then the name of Tasmania itself would be targeted for change.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 17, 2022 11:54 pm

Just remembered DV8 in Roe Street

JC
JC
August 18, 2022 12:52 am

Kamala discusses a very real question giving expert advice on CNN

Should women give head to get ahead?

Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
August 18, 2022 4:13 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
August 18, 2022 5:07 am

New York is closing the 9/11 museum.
I am without speech.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 18, 2022 5:17 am

Thanx Tom.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 18, 2022 5:22 am

Alaska will continue to count votes until 31st August.
The US has trouble counting simple votes how are they going to get their heads around preferential voting?
What a circus.

Winston Smith
August 18, 2022 5:43 am

From the Epoch Times:
An interview of Victor Davis Hanson about the Trump/FBI stoush.
Very good interview, about an hour long.

johanna
johanna
August 18, 2022 6:27 am

The Saudis are absolutely rolling in petrodollars at present:

The ‘crown jewel’ and leading source of income for the conservative kingdom temporarily supplanted Apple as the world’s most valuable company in March. It now lies second in the list,” Agence France-Press (AFP) observed on Sunday of Aramco following its record earnings from April to June.

Aramco’s profits for the second quarter of 2022 ($48.4 billion) were higher than those of Apple Inc. ($19.4 billion), Alphabet Inc. ($16 billion), and Facebook (6.7 billion) combined.

Yikes!

Another one of those ‘stranded assets’ the greenies keep telling us about in action. Just like the coal companies, which are minting it at present.

Good to see that the ‘divest’ movement is getting hit right in the wallet, where it hurts the most. 🙂

calli
calli
August 18, 2022 6:39 am

Bern, I think the Tribute museum is the one on Greenwich Street, not far from the WTC site. The larger, National one adjacent to the memorial will remain open.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 18, 2022 6:43 am

New York is closing the 9/11 museum.

Why, do you know?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 18, 2022 6:46 am

Ah. Righto.

Ta calli.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 18, 2022 6:49 am

TE, at 11.01 overnight:

Obviously if this one goes ahead then the name of Tasmania itself would be targeted for change.

Alternate suggestions:

Mansellia.
Brown Island.
Westeros.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 18, 2022 6:49 am

Thanks calli.
I didn’t know there were two.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 18, 2022 6:51 am

InteractivePolls
??@IAPolls2022??

WYOMING PRIMARY TURNOUT

Republican
2018: 117,752
2022: 170,584 (+45%)

Democratic
2018: 19,459
2022: 7,542 (-61%)

OVERALL Primary Turnout (42 states)
Republicans +19% from 2018
Democrats -7% from 2018

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 18, 2022 6:53 am

ABC and BBC pretty much in lockstep when covering the Wyoming primary.
Cheney “might run for President, at least as an independent, thereby “stripping votes away from Trump” – yes, that Trump who remains powerful as a result of “the big lie” about 2020 election.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 18, 2022 6:55 am

Baris reckons his team will be able to derive how many DNC punters switched to the GOP to vote in primary.
He said he’ll report back either way once the data is crunched.

I’m guessing that Frank Luntz pumpkin head has substantially more funding than Baris but his polling work is just terrible.
I wonder what he spends his money on?

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 18, 2022 7:00 am

“Obviously that’s an actual error to claim a white man discovered an island that had been owned by Aboriginal people for 60,000 years prior to him sailing in on his tall ship.”
By which time they had eaten the magafauna.

132andBush
132andBush
August 18, 2022 7:00 am

Alternate suggestions:

Mansellia.
Brown Island.
Westeros.

Schamapp.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 7:02 am

Don’t mention climate change or renewable energy.

Ofgem director QUITS over energy crisis as Tories accused of being ‘asleep at the wheel’ (17 Aug)

AN OFGEM board director has resigned in protest over the energy price cap failing to protect families from the global energy crisis.

The article is amusing not only that it fails to mention the cause of this crisis, but that the luvvie who resigned in a huff was distressed that price caps weren’t being applied low enough. And this after dozens and dozens of retail electricity vendors have been going bankrupt.

I wonder when the proles will realize the lefties they’re looking to save them are the ones causing the crisis? Let them eat cake v2.0.

calli
calli
August 18, 2022 7:02 am

From what I can gather, the smaller museum was put together from private donations. It had people who had lost loved ones coming in and telling their stories plus a lot of material, most likely personal, that was missing from the National museum. They depended upon ticket sales, particularly from international visitors, and Covid destroyed all that.

Two museums, two different flavours. Unfortunately one gets government support, the other not. Plus the big museum is right there at ground zero. I have been to the larger one, didn’t even know the smaller one existed.

I don’t think New Yorkers are going to let the memory of that horror go, but anything is possible.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 18, 2022 7:04 am

BBC’s Hard Talk had an episode of ED this week. Stephen Sackur went all softy softy because his guest was none other than the Moonbat himself, The Guardian’s resident loony lefty George Monbiot.
George is against agriculture and thinks humans should eat “factory produced proteins”, a form of brewed bacteria. No crunchy crickets for you!
Farmers refer to this as “sludge”, which is a good description of that whole interview.

calli
calli
August 18, 2022 7:08 am

“Obviously that’s an actual error to claim a white man discovered an island that had been owned by Aboriginal people for 60,000 years prior to him sailing in on his tall ship.”

Only an imbecile would imagine the resident Aborigines in Tasmania suddenly sprang into life the moment Tasman saw them.

The claim is “discovered by Europeans” which is true.

In this instance the tall ship has the same value as a microscope. It is a technology that allowed others to see what was already there.

johanna
johanna
August 18, 2022 7:09 am

It is interesting to contemplate when the ripper-downers of colonialism and its remnants will get around to the names of States. WA and SA might get a pass, for a time. But the other four are glowing targets.

They’ve been nibbling away by supporting dual names for various places (supported and applauded by TheirABC) and the odd complete coup. But, it’s mostly small stuff – a township here, a mountain or island there. Just wait till they go for the big prizes.

It will be a shitfight for the ages. Particularly in Queensland. Although, I predict that if any of them roll over, Victoriastan will be the first.

Cassie of Sydney
August 18, 2022 7:09 am

You might not have known it but apparently Scotland has a lot of “menstruating men”.

Is there any end to this insanity?

I’m still chuckling from seeing Dave Karma Sharma on Sky last night refer to Liz Cheney’s “conservative credentials” and describing the the events of 6 January 2021 as an “insurrection”.

If you want to know why the Liberal Party of Australia is in a shambolic state, Karma Sharma and his jobless ilk are the reason why.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 18, 2022 7:09 am

Schamapp.

Extremely South Australia.
Lumberjackia.
West Waikato.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 18, 2022 7:11 am

I love the new talking points.
I can’t wait for the talking-point-in-chief to arrive to say something along the lines:

I see Liz Cheney is going to run in 2024…bad for the GOP…splitting the vote…insert further generic talking points here…your mob…you lot…etc etc etc.

It’s all so cliché.

calli
calli
August 18, 2022 7:14 am

You might not have known it but apparently Scotland has a lot of “menstruating men”.

I could make a joke about kilts and sporrans, but I shall desist.

Never, ever mock big hairy caber tossing rangas for wearing skirts and purses!

I shall be there in a month or so and shall report any sighting of mincing down the Royal Mile.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 18, 2022 7:14 am

Melbourne suburban rail loop has blown out to 120 billion for two stages when the original costing was 50 billion for the entire project.

Blurb:

Suburban Rail Loop (SRL) is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to shape the future liveability, productivity and connectivity of Melbourne.

The 90km rail line will link every major rail line from the Frankston Line to the Werribee Line via Melbourne Airport, better connecting Victorians to jobs, retail, education, health services and each other.

Being malicious and utterly incompetent still doesn’t get you drummed out of office if you’ve bought all the votes.

Cassie of Sydney
August 18, 2022 7:16 am

“I see Liz Cheney is going to run in 2024…bad for the GOP…splitting the vote…insert further generic talking points here…your mob…you lot…etc etc etc.

It’s all so cliché.”

And our “talking-point-in-chief” will predict that by 2024, Trump will be indicted, in jail and preparing for execution. No doubt that’ll also make Karma Sharma happy.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 18, 2022 7:16 am

Melbourne suburban rail loop has blown out to 120 billion for two stages when the original costing was 50 billion for the entire project.

This is exhibit ten million & one on why land banking needs to be taxed.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 18, 2022 7:20 am

The milk from the fridge, when poured into coffee earlier this morning behaved in the manner of an elderly man passing a kidney stone.

Shudder, drip, plonk. Gaaah.

Ominous portents for the day ahead. Those witches down at the abandoned car wash next to the servo last night may have been on the money.

Barry
Barry
August 18, 2022 7:20 am

I always scoffed internally at comparisons of Australia and Argentina.

Now I’m not so sure.

Albo apparently working out how to cripple the top 250 most productive companies here, without killing their tax generating capacity completely. This is the way to kick start the transformation.

sfw
sfw
August 18, 2022 7:24 am

Andrews rail project will be as useful as the old inner and outer circle rail lines in Melbourne. Like the tunnel under the Yarra they are little more than make work projects to please the CFMEU and other unions.

Cassie of Sydney
August 18, 2022 7:27 am

““Obviously that’s an actual error to claim a white man discovered an island that had been owned by Aboriginal people for 60,000 years prior to him sailing in on his tall ship.””

Where’s the evidence Aboriginal people were in Tasmania 60,000 years ago?

I say rubbish.

johanna
johanna
August 18, 2022 7:28 am

bern, never underestimate the incompetence (leavened with a bit of outright corruption here and there) of third rate bureaucrats. They have NFI of how the world works. If Trump had been in charge, it would have been built by now.

In my experience, they operate as though it was the 1950s, when there was plenty of cheap land, and implementing projects was done at a leisurely pace by dozy timeservers. That there are shoals of property sharks circling them 24/7 just doesn’t register. After all, it’s not their money that is at stake. And, the carefully designed spread of accountability means that if it all goes tits up, no individual can be held responsible.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 18, 2022 7:29 am

Not a good night for renewables in Perf. Half hourly wind readings from 9pm to 6am shows a peal wind speed of 2kph.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 7:30 am

You must buy magic amulets, they’re mandatory. Anyone not wearing one will be arrested.

Tony Blair’s Globalist Think Tank Calls For Return of Mandatory Masks (17 Aug)

Mr Blair is not alone in Europe calling for a return to mask requirements, with the left-wing government of Germany preparing to bring back mandated masks for public spaces starting in October.

Less than two months into the first national lockdown in Britain, Blair repurposed his think tank to focus on the pandemic, announcing that he has teams “embedded in governments around the world“.

Just in case anyone thinks the magic amulet would not actually be effective or necessary, here’s another terrifying story.

Study: Half of People Infected With Omicron Did Not Know It (Newsmax, 17 Aug)

A full 56% of those infected weren’t aware they had COVID-19, researchers report. Earlier studies had found that as many as 80% of those infected never experienced symptoms.

The elites are getting more and more unhinged. It seems to be an accelerating process. Why this is happening I have no idea, but it’s very clearly happening.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 18, 2022 7:31 am

How quickly global attention fades.

What is the most pressing issue of our time one day is seemingly relegated to the basket of old news the next.

Seeing that process play out again and again is grounds enough to think we are being conned all the time.

The most glaring recent example is COVID. Now that the truth is emerging the authorities no longer want to mention it.

It’s clear that during the pandemic, there was a deliberate and concerted effort to prevent the factual counter narrative from reaching your eyes and ears. The authorities worked with big business and the media to suppress the truth. It was all about power, control and cash.

https://www.corybernardi.com.au/posts/brainwashed-buffoons/

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 18, 2022 7:33 am

Meanwhile in Victoria our road networks are falling apart. Patching and speed reduction signs are the new road maintenance standard.
We have a stretch of highway near us that has multiple new ‘rough surface’ signs every kilometre for the fifteen km stretch that’s a disgrace. The next step is to add to the signage with a mandated 80km/h limit and have VicPlod & camera cars recoup the signage cost but not fix the road.
Deaths on country roads continue to climb as the trucks and cars both try to occupy dodgem lanes lined with massive trees mere metres off the road and kangaroos appearing out of nowhere from behind.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 18, 2022 7:34 am

H B Bear says:
August 18, 2022 at 7:29 am

Not a good night for renewables in Perf. Half hourly wind readings from 9pm to 6am shows a peal wind speed of 2kph.

Thankfully we still have fossil fuel as 2.6 at Perf Airport and my house, gas heater on full!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 18, 2022 7:36 am

Today is Long Tan Day.

Well done, those men.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 18, 2022 7:42 am

Anchor What at 6:53 – the ALPBC news report on Chaney last night was straight out of Alice in Wonderland. Heavens help you if you thought it bore any resemblance to reality.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 18, 2022 7:46 am

What if a low cost, widely available, and safe existing vaccine inhibited not only COVID-19 but a range of other infectious diseases? Shouldn’t that be headline news across mainstream media? Of course, it’s not yet knowledge that a vaccine used for tuberculosis (TB) that could possibly inhibit COVID-19 has been contemplated since the early stages of the pandemic. TrialSite reported on multiple studies investigating the potential for the Bacillus Calmette–Guérin (BCG) vaccine (again, used primarily against tuberculosis) to inhibit SARS-CoV-2, the virus behind COVID-19. For example, as early as April 2020, this media reported on studies such as this most recent one investigating the link between the BCG vaccine and COVID-19 health improvements. In May 2020, TrialSite posed, “Does the BCG Vaccine Blunt the Effects of COVID-19? Texas A&M Chancellor Makes an Investment to Find out.” In October 2020, the University of Exeter in the UK led a study to evaluate the potential for the BCG vaccine to reduce COVID-19 death rates. Months later in early 2021, Cedars-Sinai in Los Angeles reported on an observational study of healthcare workers suggesting that the BCG vaccine associates with reduced COVID-19 impacts. Now, published in Cell Reports Medicine, a study led by prominent Boston-based principal investigators again reveals that the BCG vaccine, while safe, produced a 92% efficacy versus placebo against COVID-19, but with added benefits. While the efficacy may take a year or even two to initiate, the protection may last years. Additionally, the findings suggest platform protection against additional infectious diseases.

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/bcg-vaccine-bombshell-92-effectiveness-against-covid-19-while-offering-protection-against-other-infectious-diseases-d811e590

calli
calli
August 18, 2022 7:46 am

Why this is happening I have no idea, but it’s very clearly happening.

The mask is a symbol of compliance. More acceptable than a tattoo of course, but just as potent. I’ve been of two minds about posting observations during my upcoming trip, but I think I will risk all the “nazi pass” sniping so Cats can “see” what I see.

Stunning and bwave of me, I know. 😀

Roger
Roger
August 18, 2022 7:46 am

““Obviously that’s an actual error to claim a white man discovered an island that had been owned by Aboriginal people for 60,000 years prior to him sailing in on his tall ship.””

The correspondence theory of truth, ethnicity, history, geography, ownership, linear time, technology…I hope this lady is aware of the debt her worlview owes to European settlement.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 18, 2022 7:48 am

Today is Long Tan Day.

Well done, those men.

Just finished reading Paul Ham’s book on Vietnam. He conveys the lethal chaos of Long Tan very well.

Roger
Roger
August 18, 2022 7:48 am

worldview

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 18, 2022 7:48 am

Mahidol University Finds Disturbingly Frequent Incidence of Cardiovascular Events in Adolescents Post Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA-based COVID-19 Vaccine

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/mahidol-university-finds-disturbingly-frequent-incidence-of-cardiovascular-events-in-adolescents-post-pfizer-biontech-mrna-based-covid-19-vaccine-afb81f28

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
August 18, 2022 7:49 am

Bern, don’t worry, they’re all over taxing the land bankers in VIC, the Windfall Gains Tax on rezoning is 50% (starts 1 July next if Labor stay in after Nov).

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 18, 2022 7:50 am

National Icelandic Study: Fully COVID-19 Vaccinated at Higher Risk for Omicron-based Reinfection than Non-Vaccinated!

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/national-icelandic-study-fully-covid-19-vaccinated-at-higher-risk-for-omicron-based-reinfection-than-non-vaccinated-06852481

sfw
sfw
August 18, 2022 7:52 am

Perfidious Albino, just wondering, will the windfall tax encourage the gov to rezone land just for the tax take?

johanna
johanna
August 18, 2022 7:53 am

What irks me is how much of the reliably anti-Trump, Dimmocrat-talking-point media we get on FTV. As if TheirABC is not doing enough, we get their MSM morning shows, plus George Steph-many opouloses (who was Clinton’s mouthpiece) providing his unique insights. Then there is the stream of ‘documentaries’ on SBS about Orange Man Bad.

It is no wonder that many Australians who quite reasonably are not obsessed with politics as we are here believe that Trump is a rogue nutcase.

Vicki
Vicki
August 18, 2022 7:53 am

Farmer Gez: same in some regional Councils in NSW. Our local Council had just informed ratepayers that they are broke. With no sense of shame at all, they have asked asked whether we would prefer increased rates or further decline in services! We have no roadside garbage service & have to trial 30km to access green & large goods disposal.

Our only road into our valley from the south (25km long) is heavily pot holed from semis bringing in huge loads of road fill to improve a local road into the National Park!! But they say they have no resources to fix the public road. The worst potholes are on corners and hills. We are in constant fear of fatalities – particularly from tourists as the valley is a world listed birdwatching site & attracts many visitors.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 18, 2022 7:54 am

In the world of drug and vaccine development, led by industries such as biotech and pharmaceutical companies, prominent academic medical centers, apex government research institutes (think NIH), and regulators, not to mention some of the bigger health systems, one concept is circulated almost more than any other in one form or another—that is the importance of the patient. Slogans include “patients come first,” “patient-centricity,” or “patient-centric” to “patients matter” or “it’s all about the patient.” But when one delves into the laws backing the development of drugs and vaccines, and how injured patients are treated, frankly, the “patients matter” stuff gets thrown out the window in favor of a sophisticated form of crony capitalism. Honestly, what’s really valued by the political classes (the lawmakers and governing officials) are the drugs and vaccine producers—the trillion-dollar pharmaceutical industry and associated drug and vaccine supply chains in the form of big health systems, all sorts of supporting vendor ecosystems, and, of course, government backers.

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/patient-centricity-not-with-vaccinescrony-capitalism-prevails-over-the-people-time-for-a-change-9df22e14

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 18, 2022 7:57 am

Albino, is there a threshold that it starts at?
And is it capped?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 8:03 am

Melbourne suburban rail loop has blown out to 120 billion

Nearly $20,000 for every man, woman and child in the state.
Amazing. You could literally buy a new car for every family three times over.

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 18, 2022 8:03 am

The Grauniad.
But of course.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 18, 2022 8:05 am

an island that had been owned by Aboriginal people for 60,000

We really need to consider whether there is a difference between ‘ownership’ and merely living somewhere.

Actually, not even ‘ownership’. We don’t really say the population of a nation ‘own’ the land they are on. We might say it about America (with a certain generosity of spirit and a tear in the eye at the memory) but we would not say it about North Korea, for example.

And is this ‘ownership’ immutable and inalienable? Never has been before.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 18, 2022 8:09 am

FTB , re train loop In Melbourne. Not sure how land banking applies as the loop goes underground. A colossal amount of $ though. But as they say when in a hole, keep spending. I’m just miffed that the route took a dog leg and missed my suburb.

Big sections of the Monash Freeway are in the completion stages. 80kmh sections being raised to 100kmh. …in time for elections, Belt and Road anyone?

Andrews May have to lift fire restrictions soon, he has a lot of paperwork to catch up on should he lose the election in November.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 18, 2022 8:11 am

We don’t really say the population of a nation ‘own’ the land they are on.
Well I certainly do.
The only other way is “you’ll own nothing, and you’ll be happy.”

johanna
johanna
August 18, 2022 8:12 am

Been thinking a bit more about my throwaway comment about the ‘divest’ movement above.

They have gone very quiet lately, although there is another version (ESG or something) floating around.

They were always in breach of the Corporations Act, except if their alternate investments were at least as good.

Oh, dear. Selling coal, gas and oil a couple of years ago and buying algae farms … how did that work out?

To revert, it is interesting that the ‘divest’ movement, which was once noisy and prominent, has disappeared. More shape-shifting.

shatterzzz
August 18, 2022 8:13 am

A dag between rags .. LOL!
https://ibb.co/1n0n6Xv

Vicki
Vicki
August 18, 2022 8:14 am

Against my previous rules, yesterday, on my return to Sydney, I broached the issue of adverse reactions to the Covid vaccines at morning coffee meeting place. Somebody had raised the issue of the vaccines & I mentioned the observation of others that just about everyone knows someone who had died totally unexpectedly and unexplained.

This elicited the response from one listener that “but what about all the lives it saved?” This was put in such an angry manner, that it was clearly coming from emotion. It caused me the draw breath at that point. It is clear that many now recognise the incongruities of the medical advice & are fearful. And it is causing significant resentment.

Others are quietly seeking my advice on how to prevent being infected, despite having been vaccinated. Some write down the relevant vitamins, supplements etc – especially the nasal & throat washes. I am so pleased when this happens. We are definitely moving into a new phase of public attitudes to the virus and the vaccines, although few seem to know about the about-face of the CDC in America.

I am still constantly researching the work of the amazing dissenting physicians OS. Just listened to an hour and a half recent discussion with Canadian pathologist Dr. Roger Hodkinson. He really lays it on the line! Similarly if you can find online discussions with our own Dr.Phillip Altman, a retired pharmacologist who actually owned a company in Australia which tested drugs for the TGA. He is outraged at the overturning of all accepted protocols for the release of vaccines.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 18, 2022 8:23 am

You might not have known it but apparently Scotland has a lot of “menstruating men”.

Could be the kilts confusing the socialist government, with socialist politicians not being aware that the kilt is traditional masculine costume.

To a socialist manly attire consists of drab blue dungarees, a course collarless shirt, and a flat-hat. And the men that dress like this are forever marching out of factories singing songs in unison about the glorious socialist revolution.

(Socialists don’t really consider the history, traditions, or values of the people they plan to rule – they are just going to re-write it all anyway.)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 8:23 am

The Grauniad.
But of course.

That’s hilarious! Grauniadis wouldn’t get the joke.

shatterzzz
August 18, 2022 8:25 am

Given that there is an enquiry with “favoured’ folk being paid $squillions to investigate the whys’ & wherefors’ of the “barrel of laffs” appointment as a Trade Commissioner .. when in reality one question and its answer would suffice ..!
How the hell does anyone with a reference from “Eddie’s boy, Arfur” make the short-list for any position above night soil collector’s offsider’s assistant?

Cassie of Sydney
August 18, 2022 8:26 am

“Could be the kilts confusing the socialist government, with socialist politicians not being aware that the kilt is traditional masculine costume.”

Some advice to those menstruating males in Scotland, I advise against wearing a kilt or if you do, you’re going to have to wear something under the kilt.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 8:29 am

To revert, it is interesting that the ‘divest’ movement, which was once noisy and prominent, has disappeared. More shape-shifting.

They’re still with us.

U of Melbourne student union endorses BDS for 2nd time (15 Aug)

After ‘extreme’ pro-BDS motion passed but was withdrawn in May, new resolution supported by student union.

The student union at the University of Melbourne has endorsed the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS) for the second time this year, sparking condemnation from Jewish students and advocacy groups.

The University of Melbourne Student Union (UMSU) passed the motion 13-3 at a Monday meeting. The resolution accused Israel of “apartheid” and “ethnic cleansing,” according to the Algemeiner.

Antisemitism is completely typical of the Left. Given Melbourne Uni is also fanatical about the climate cult it should be demolished and the earth salted under it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 18, 2022 8:31 am

“Obviously that’s an actual error to claim a white man discovered an island that had been owned by Aboriginal people for 60,000 years prior to him sailing in on his tall ship.”

Didn’t the activists used to claim that “ownership” of land was a “whitefella” concept – that they didn’t own the land, they were “of” the land, and their bond to the land went beyond mere ownership?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 18, 2022 8:38 am

shatterzzzsays:
August 17, 2022 at 9:56 pm
Getting harder and harder to find any worthwhile TV to download these days and so tonight had my first taste of “Bollywood”

Suggest RRR – have streamed it from Netflix – https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/rrr/ – Excellent

for light hearted – Bride & Prejudice dance scene – Naveen Andrews – HQ

johanna
johanna
August 18, 2022 8:40 am

Bruce, I was talking about the ‘divest from fossil fuel investments’ crowd.

Although, on a Venn diagram, there would be very little outside the overlap.

Re the grubby appointments to ‘overseas trade’ posts in NSW, nobody has asked why they exist at all. Is there any evaluation of what they achieve?

The one under discussion wanted 800k per year plus all his rent and servants and other expenses paid. In London.

For what?

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 18, 2022 8:41 am

apparently Scotland has a lot of “menstruating men

It could’ve been an epic troll, but the Scotchlandian National Socialist Party is run by a termagant scold.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 18, 2022 8:43 am

Albo apparently working out how to cripple the top 250 most productive companies here, without killing their tax generating capacity completely.

You realise they dont really care about taxation because they dont actually need it to fund government. The ‘budget’ has been in deficit for over 10 years, and if you can fund *part* of government expenditure by other means (borrowing, inflation etc) there is no reason you cant fund *all* of it that way.

The main role of taxation is punitive – to punish people for having the temerity to not be fully dependent on government.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 18, 2022 8:44 am

Farmer Gezsays:
August 18, 2022 at 7:48 am
Today is Long Tan Day.

Well done, those men.

Just finished reading Paul Ham’s book on Vietnam. He conveys the lethal chaos of Long Tan very well.

Battle of Long Tan Documentary – Vietnam War – Narrated by Sam Worthington

Made realistic with actual radio conversation

and the interview series of

Interview 1 Second Lieutenant David Sabben

and

Interview 1 Sergeant Bob Buick

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 18, 2022 8:45 am
shatterzzz
August 18, 2022 8:49 am

Useless trivia 101 ..
No idea whether a site or browser upgrade solved an annoying problem but for several days now I haven’t needed to switch from BRAVE to EDGE to view links (Tom’s cartoons ect) cos before (for several months) whenever I clicked a link (in BRAVE) the return click sent me back to the home page instead of where I was and I’d have to scroll thru again .. but since over the weekend clicking a link and then returning to the same post has become the norm ……. NOICE! .. LOL!

calli
calli
August 18, 2022 8:49 am

lotocoti says:
August 18, 2022 at 8:03 am
The Grauniad.
But of course.

I thought it was a BB spoof.

From henceforth the Grauniad will be known as Evil Bee. Stupid but serious.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 18, 2022 8:50 am

We really need to consider whether there is a difference between ‘ownership’ and merely living somewhere.

Correct, there is nothing intrinsic about walking across a piece of land (even one where no human has ever previously stood – because animals have also walked across it at some point) that confers ownership.

I prefer the ‘homesteading’ principle, which starts with self ownership, and argues thus:

1) You own your own body
2) You therefore own the products of the labour of your body
3) If you combine your labour with the land (eg by building a house on it) then (absent a similar pre-existing claim) you now own said land.

Its more logically consistent than ‘well I found it first’ but implies that hunter gatherers who merely moved across the land have not earned ownership of it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 18, 2022 8:51 am

DrBeauGansays:
August 18, 2022 at 5:17 am
Thanx Tom.

Moran is always good, but why persist with Rowe, when you can post only limited numbers?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 8:51 am

Johanna – Yes I know, but you gave me an excuse to put up that other divestment story. 😀
As you say the fossil fuel fanatics are the same people as the BDS fanatics in most cases.

calli
calli
August 18, 2022 8:56 am

for light hearted – Bride & Prejudice dance scene – Naveen Andrews – HQ

Hard to believe that these cute dance sequences are from the same land as the honour killing and facial acid wash for recalcitrant females.

Escapism from harsh cultural reality isn’t just the province of Hollywood.

Indolent
Indolent
August 18, 2022 8:58 am

Unfortunately, we don’t need the Expose to tell us this. Gates is right up there in the competition for most evil person in the world. He has made a fortune from killing and maiming people with the injectables and now wants to make another one from forcing people to eat his fake food by destroying normal food production.

Bill Gates is quietly carrying out a sinister plan to force you to eat Fake Meat

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 18, 2022 8:58 am

Anchor What

By which time they had eaten the magafauna.

I have long thought that Tim Flummery’s switch to being a “progressive” was a means to atone for his book The Future Eaters, and again be invited to all the “correct” dinner parties.

I wonder how shallow one has to be, to abandon an acclaimed work, just to dine with a bunch of pompous asses.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 18, 2022 8:58 am

For the last 2 days I have been observing a neighbours trees being removed. In the last 15 years only 1 branch has com off 1of them. I wonder how they got permission to have the removed. I could not get mine removed and it’s not in good nick. Maybe if I had Liars Party advertising on my front lawn it would have made a difference just like my neighbour had? Probably not as I never had Liars advertising on my car too. Live and learn.

Rabz
August 18, 2022 8:59 am

the name of Tasmania itself would be targeted for change

Alternate suggestions:

Taxmania, given they exist on everyone else’s.

Roger
Roger
August 18, 2022 9:00 am

I wonder how shallow one has to be, to abandon an acclaimed work, just to dine with a bunch of pompous asses.

Tim’s done very well out of the climate caper.

Dining with pompous asses like FitzSimons is a fringe benefit.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 18, 2022 9:01 am

BJ, never seen pompous asses, but plenty of pompous arses.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 18, 2022 9:01 am

Anchor What

George is against agriculture and thinks humans should eat “factory produced proteins”, a form of brewed bacteria. No crunchy crickets for you!

He can lead the way with the human trials. I think that 30 years should give an indication as to the health benefits or costs. If he dies before then, other Grauniad staff can take up the task.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 18, 2022 9:02 am

Good name, Rabz.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 18, 2022 9:03 am

91% of motorists back plan to force cyclists to sport registration plates, poll suggests

Daily Mail

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 18, 2022 9:04 am

Media loves Karen Andrews, their local version of Liz Cheney.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 18, 2022 9:04 am

the name of Tasmania itself would be targeted for change

Alternate suggestions:

Manselland?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 9:05 am

Haha, this will be fun.

Judge Orders Twitter To Provide Elon Musk With Executive Documents On Fake Accounts (18 Aug)

I recall Wells Fargo got hammered flat by the SEC for the practice of inflating the numbers of accounts. It’d be nice for these lefties to be likewise held to account for their announcements to market.

johanna
johanna
August 18, 2022 9:05 am

The concept of ownership is surely a wicked Western notion. I thought the land owned the people? So, which one is it?

The denigration of brave/foolhardy explorers like Tasman, Cook, Hartog and so on is just plain insulting. These were extraordinary men, worthy of remembrance.

We should thank Colin Dexter, author of the Inspector Morse novels, for reminding us of the achievements of Captain Cook.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 9:08 am

Manselland?

Van Diemen’s Land.
The original and still the best.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 18, 2022 9:09 am

Obviously if this one goes ahead then the name of Tasmania itself would be targeted for change.
Alternate suggestions:

Mansellia.
Brown Island.
Westeros.

Mendicant Island?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 18, 2022 9:10 am

GreyRangasays:
August 18, 2022 at 8:58 am
For the last 2 days I have been observing a neighbours trees being removed

The question is who was doing the removal?

House on corner big gum tree being removed, got quick quote from Dodgy Brothers and got 1/3 removed from top group of trees (supposed to be only 10%), another neighbour also too advantage of Dodgy Brothers and had tree removed as well.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 18, 2022 9:11 am

The taller Indo-Aboriginals adversely possessed the land from the pygmy guys, and then the European guys adversely possessed it in turn.
If you live in it for long enough it’s yours.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 18, 2022 9:11 am

60,000 years.

Still didnt have a decent map of the place.

johanna
johanna
August 18, 2022 9:13 am

calli says:
August 18, 2022 at 8:56 am

for light hearted – Bride & Prejudice dance scene – Naveen Andrews – HQ

Hard to believe that these cute dance sequences are from the same land as the honour killing and facial acid wash for recalcitrant females.

Escapism from harsh cultural reality isn’t just the province of Hollywood.

Not a good idea to generalise about India. Especially about culture and religion.

As I have said before, our whining politicians complaining about their jobs would not last five minutes there.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 18, 2022 9:13 am

I see Liz Cheney is going to run in 2024…bad for the GOP…splitting the vote…insert further generic talking points here…your mob…you lot…etc etc etc.

When Trump won the Democrats were desperately tossing names about trying to come up with a contender to help them manage their fretting about the new President.

I remember they even touted the unstoppable popularity of Oprah! Man, have not her glory days have passed.

This is what they do when they are afraid. They don’t plan on how to win, but look for ways to make Trump lose.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 18, 2022 9:15 am

Andrews rail project will be as useful as the old inner and outer circle rail lines in Melbourne. Like the tunnel under the Yarra they are little more than make work projects to please the CFMEU and other unions.

Don’t forget the construction companies and financiers.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 18, 2022 9:16 am

My spy in Hobart tells me, re the vote by the Council to remove the Crowther statue, that it still has to be approved by the planning department – a formality methinks. “However Hobart City Council is coming up for election in October and may lose the election and it is not popular with most Hobart ratepayers.”

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 18, 2022 9:16 am

The survival of troops in Long Tan rested on superb artillery work.

https://battleoflongtan.com/morrie-stanley-161-battery-royal-new-zealand-artillery/

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 18, 2022 9:18 am

Not a good idea to generalise about India. Especially about culture and religion.

Bit like America, too many people and too large with so many variations, any generalization will miss vast swathes of people.

SBS movies had one on I thought would be shitty called ‘raid”, about a incorruptable taxman sent from place to place to carry out audits.
It even had 2 musical number in it.
But it turned out to be a good movie, very enjoyable, as the corrupt, mega wealthy pollie found out his own family was skimming money from him.
It even touched on an attempt by the pollie to get Indira Gandhi to interfere and she wasnt shown as a saintly incorruptible lady…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h4thS-Hcrk

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 18, 2022 9:19 am

Talking to my mate in Kiwiland yesterday. In a low voice so his looney left missus couldn’t hear he tells me he doesn’t want to have a booster shot coz since he had the jab October last he has had coughs, colds, bronchial and flu like symptoms every couple of weeks. I reminded him I hadn’t been jabbed and only had a head cold for three days in the last 5 years. He can’t wait to get back here. Busy selling off his cartridge gun collection but keeping the antiques as there is no problem bringing them in.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 18, 2022 9:19 am

johannasays:
August 18, 2022 at 8:40 am
Bruce, I was talking about the ‘divest from fossil fuel investments’ crowd.

Although, on a Venn diagram, there would be very little outside the overlap.

Re the grubby appointments to ‘overseas trade’ posts in NSW, nobody has asked why they exist at all. Is there any evaluation of what they achieve?

The one under discussion wanted 800k per year plus all his rent and servants and other expenses paid. In London.

For what?

To keep his mouth shut about the NSW handling of Kung Flu?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 9:20 am

I see Liz Cheney is going to run in 2024

She’s not a happy lassy.

Liz Cheney Vows To Do ‘Whatever It Takes’ To Stop Trump (17 Aug)

Perhaps she could try ritual self-disembowelment on the front steps of Mar-a-Lago?
There’s always a chance it’d work.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 18, 2022 9:23 am

Mendicant Island?

Epiphany.

Boon Island.
Pontingia.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 18, 2022 9:27 am

A luxury Manhattan hotel once touted as the “Lullabuy of Broadway” will soon be providing beddy-bye to hundreds of asylum-seeking migrants, The Post has learned.

Mayor Eric Adams plans to convert the Row NYC — formerly known as the Milford Plaza and located in pricey tourist-packed Times Square — into an intake center and shelter for as many as 600 migrant families

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 18, 2022 9:27 am

OldOzzie the contractors are government approved ones. Dodgy Bros. don’t do work that needs approval in Canberra.

cohenite
August 18, 2022 9:29 am

I see that SOB mansell is claiming 3rd nation s were in Tassie about 60000 years ago. This is a fucking lie.

The first people arrived in Australia 47000 years ago. That’s a fact:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312577659_Humans_rather_than_climate_the_primary_cause_of_Pleistocene_megafaunal_extinction_in_Australia

See also:

https://phys.org/news/2017-01-humans-climate-australian-megafauna.html

The current mob were not even the first, they were the 3rd set of invaders. The achievements of the 3 waves of people who came to Australia before the white idiots were:

1 Extermination of the Megafauna; the biggest manmade animal extinction ever
2 Widespread destruction of the original vegetation cover caused by centuries of continuous burning
3 Violent attacks and basically genocide on the peoples who were here before them.

The current mob are the real invaders.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 9:30 am

Hahaha, I quipped a week ago that in the new LOTR the orcs are white and the elves are black.
It turns out my joke is actually true, at least elfwise.

Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ Prequel Series Goes Woke with ‘Elves of Color’ (17 Aug)

m0nty
August 18, 2022 9:30 am

Bit hard to figure out what Liz Cheney’s end game is. She is certainly going to get nowhere in Republican politics. Becoming the next Andrew Yang is not much of a life.

She’ll be a convenient punching bag for fascists for years to come.

m0nty
August 18, 2022 9:32 am

A law that defends the life of the child in utero is supposedly ‘theocratic and fascist’. You are simply at the stage of spouting words you don’t understand.

Government lawyers hounding women for sins against their unborn child is like something out of the Middle Ages. No doubt Alito will cite the Salem witch trials in his relevant upcoming decision.

P
P
August 18, 2022 9:33 am

Bill to force religious hospitals to offer abortion defeated

Reason Party MP Fiona Patten, who introduced the bill, forced a vote on the issue in Parliament yesterday after negotiations with the Government broke down.

Those voting against included outspoken MP Bernie Finn, who was expelled from the Victorian Liberal Party in May for saying all abortions should be banned.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 18, 2022 9:37 am

Bit hard to figure out what Liz Cheney’s end game is

Grift.

By doing a ‘Perot” she can try to split the vote enough to ensure the rotting corpse of Biden gets a second term.

Its not complicated.
Massive funding of her campaign by the dems with a nice fat payoff for her at the end.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 18, 2022 9:39 am

Well I certainly do.
The only other way is “you’ll own nothing, and you’ll be happy.”

I mean, as a collective.

When you talk about owning your land it is as an individual. And it is not yours merely be dint of being on it. That ownership is very particular to certain types of society.

It also works by exclusion. You own a car, for example. That car will work the same way no matter who is driving. If someone else jumps into your car while you are paying for petrol the car will let them get away, but that is not ownership. Ownership consists in other people being forbidden to use something that the owner is permitted.

In remote and wild realms your possession would depend upon your ability to exclude others by force. In our society you pay taxes to have institutions like the police and courts to maintain your right to exclusive enjoyment. Someone tries to set up a tent in your front yard the police come to haul them off.

We have merely outsourced defence of property to an institution which maintains exclusive ownership for everyone.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 18, 2022 9:39 am

She’ll be a convenient punching bag for fascists for years to come.

On the anniversary of Long Tan, Monty throws around Commie terminology for affect.
Look across to Spring Street, you’ll see better examples than US conservatives.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 18, 2022 9:39 am

Did someone post a Twitter video link about training 87,000 police somewhere in the US?

The video/story is 5 years old

Accounting Students Get Hands-On Lesson in IRS Criminal Investigations
October 30, 2017

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 9:42 am

Sure to work.

NY governor bans toy guns as part of effort to reduce crime (17 Aug)

New York Governor Kathy Hochul signed legislation on Tuesday that aims to curb crime by making many toy guns illegal.

Kids aren’t allowed to have toy guns but they are allowed to have their bodies mutilated by their bonkers lefty parents.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 9:46 am

Weirdly this never seems to happen to certain other schools in Western Sydney.

Australian Jewish school shut down by government for non-compliance issues (17 Aug)

Yeshiva College, which is located in the Sydney suburb of Bondi, was given a non-compliance grade for curriculum, teaching and governance rules.

The New South Wales Education Standards Authority (NESA) accused the school of using unaccredited teachers, not following the minimum primary and high school curriculum, and not providing a “safe and supportive environment” for its pupils.

The NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal ordered that the school be closed, backing the NESA’s report which recommended that the school be deregistered.

Seeing that every single quango in the country seems to be stacked with leftists, I think it is safe to say NESA is too.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 18, 2022 9:47 am

I like the cut of your jib Cohenite. Now I want you to get that published in the Hobart Mercury.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 18, 2022 9:52 am

For the last 2 days I have been observing a neighbours trees being removed. In the last 15 years only 1 branch has com off 1of them. I wonder how they got permission to have the removed. I could not get mine removed and it’s not in good nick.

Is a dead tree still a tree?

A few drill holes in the trunk and some roundup will sort out even a mature tree.

m0nty
August 18, 2022 9:52 am

By doing a ‘Perot” she can try to split the vote enough to ensure the rotting corpse of Biden gets a second term.

She doesn’t really have a constituency. NeverTrump Republicans are a dying breed.

johanna
johanna
August 18, 2022 9:56 am

Yeah, I saw the ‘elves of colour.’

How insecure would you have to be to fret about this crap?

An old white bloke wrote stories based in British and European mythology. After he died, they became very popular. Another whitie, Peter Jackson from EnZed, turned them into a very successful movie franchise.

I’m still working on how anyone was ‘oppressed’ in this narrative.

The only common denominator seems to be that anything that makes money requires a cut to certain persons, which used to be known as extortion.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 18, 2022 9:59 am

Big_Nambas @ 7:54am
I’m reading Robert F. Kennedy’s book, The Real Anthony Fauci.

Read it and weep.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 18, 2022 9:59 am
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 18, 2022 10:02 am

I see that SOB mansell is claiming 3rd nation s were in Tassie about 60000 years ago. This is a fucking lie.

Leaving aside the issue that, in the 1960’s, Aborigines had been in Australia for 10,000 years, it’s a lie that has been allowed to spread and gain credence…

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 18, 2022 10:03 am

Psays:
August 18, 2022 at 9:33 am
Bill to force religious hospitals to offer abortion defeated

Reason Party MP Fiona Patten, who introduced the bill, forced a vote on the issue in Parliament yesterday after negotiations with the Government broke down.

A very small victory for religious freedom.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 18, 2022 10:05 am

Just had a count of 80km/h rough surface signs on our road.
6 sets of signs in 4 kms.
A handy reminder of neglect and waste.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 18, 2022 10:08 am

Liz Cheney vows to fight on.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UijhbHvxWrA

rickw
rickw
August 18, 2022 10:08 am

Suburban Rail Loop (SRL) is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to shape the future liveability, productivity and connectivity of Melbourne.

Of course there used to be one of these and it got shut down because no one used it. The original route is now bike track.

sfw
sfw
August 18, 2022 10:09 am

Re the three waves of aboriginal invasion(?), I read somewhere (Quadrant?) that one of the early waves probably was a Melanesian people, the following wave pushed them into the far inhospitable edge of the continent and likely the Tassie aboriginals were the descendants of these. The Tassie mob were of a different type than the mainland ones. The author also referred to a tribe or two in the mountains of FNQ. Either way, Mansell has a lot of European in him, how does he reconcile his own heritage?

johanna
johanna
August 18, 2022 10:09 am

I remember this bloke:

A Northern Territory mass murderer will remain behind bars in Western Australia for at least a few more months, after his parole review was delayed while authorities dig for more information.
Key points:

Douglas Crabbe is serving five consecutive life sentences for killing five people near Uluru
He’s been in prison since 1983, and his parole is up for review later this year
A survivor from Crabbe’s attack has called for him to be kept behind bars

Douglas Crabbe is serving five consecutive life sentences after he ploughed his road train into a pub near Uluru in Central Australia in 1983, killing five people.

Crabbe has so far served more than 35 years in prison over the attack, for which he has never publicly expressed remorse.

He was up for parole in July this year, but WA’s Prisoners Review Board has confirmed to the ABC they have now adjourned his parole review until November 25.

He got chucked out for being an arsehole, so revved up the truck and ploughed into the venue, killing five people.

And, no signs of remorse.

rickw
rickw
August 18, 2022 10:11 am

Just had a count of 80km/h rough surface signs on our road.

Have you been up the Hume lately? Some issue, massive chucks of road surface falling off.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 18, 2022 10:11 am

Washington Examiner – The hopelessly corrupt Biden administration is sending America into a downward spiral

Against all odds, the fundamental transformation of the United States, envisioned by the radical Left and implemented by an all-too-willing Democratic Party, is underway. August is typically a quiet time in our nation’s capital with Congress out of session, but seismic events in the past two weeks have combined to make clear what Democrats have planned for this country.

President Joe Biden signed the ludicrously named Inflation Reduction Act into law this week, which was only possible because Sen. Joe Manchin, (D-WV), one of the only supposedly centrist Democrats left, finally gave into the liberal demands of his party. He did so because, contrary to the image of integrity he’s tried so hard to project, Manchin had a price, and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, (D-NY) agreed to pay it. And as a result, the public is going to be saddled with a boondoggle of a bill that analysts agree will not reduce inflation. It will, however, raise taxes on the middle class and subsidize green energy programs.

The bill will also dramatically expand the scope and size of the IRS. In fact, it increases IRS funding by $80 billion, nearly six times its current annual budget of $13.7 billion , and adds an army of 87,000 new auditors to its ranks. Given that the IRS has been stockpiling weapons in recent years, buying up $700,000 in ammunition this year alone, this truly gives new meaning to the phrase, “weaponization of U.S. institutions.”

But that was just the start. The FBI’s Gestapo-style raid on Mar-a-Lago, former President Donald Trump’s Palm Beach residence, was the most egregious deed of all. It’s impossible to see how this raid wasn’t purely political in nature, given the fact Trump had already been cooperating with the FBI to return classified documents he brought with him from the White House, and the fact that the Justice Department has never before gone to such lengths to enforce a law that other politicians, including Hillary Clinton, have been accused of breaking. Add to this the fact that we are 90 days out from an election in which Republican candidates are expected to prevail, and it seems obvious the raid is yet another attempt by the federal government to put Trump in his place.

Attorney General Merrick Garland’s sanctimonious defense of the raid as evidence of the DOJ’s “faithful adherence to the rule of law” and his portrayal of FBI agents as “dedicated, patriotic public servants” were both insulting and disgraceful. And his department’s refusal to unseal the affidavit used to launch the raid is an outrage.

Lost in the media explosion sparked by the raid was the European Unoin’s submission of the final text of the dangerous, one-sided Iran nuclear agreement. President Joe Biden’s eagerness to revive this delusional deal was obvious in his muted response to the attempted murder of British American novelist Salman Rushdie by an attacker with pro-Iranian sympathies on Friday. Conspicuously missing from his statement on the attack against Rushdie was any condemnation of the murderous regime, the 33-year-old fatwa against the author of which inspired the attacker.

On all fronts, both domestic and foreign, Democrats are pushing this country into a downward spiral. The cumulative effect of 19 months of deliberately destructive, anti-American decisions has brought us to a perilous moment in history. If this continues, we won’t need to worry about Russia or China taking us down — we’ll have done that ourselves.

It’s not only the elected Democratic politicians we see and hear from every day who are responsible. The rot runs far deeper. Over the past decade, virtually every U.S. agency has become hopelessly corrupted.

Once highly respected institutions such as the DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, and the State Department have been infested with liberal bureaucrats who work behind the scenes to advance and support a leftist agenda. Even the military under the leadership of Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has lost its apolitical status.

Whatever you care to call this network of unelected career bureaucrats — the permanent government, the deep state, the administrative state — they’ve come to wield tremendous power, and we are now seeing the effects of their handiwork. The next Republican to occupy the White House must conduct a thorough purge of this army of worker drones who work with Democrats to undermine our freedoms systematically.

rickw
rickw
August 18, 2022 10:13 am

Aborigines had been in Australia for 10,000 years, it’s a lie that has been allowed to spread and gain credence…

Possible that it’s even as low as half that. The advantage of a culture that couldn’t record anything.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 18, 2022 10:16 am

Transcript – Darren Beattie: Why Don’t Democrats Demand FBI Release Video Footage Of Alleged “Pipe Bomb” Being Planted At DNC Before January 6?

DARREN BEATTIE, REVOLVER NEWS: Merrick Garland’s DOJ is a disgrace. We’re only beginning to see the skeletons that lay in Merrick Garland’s closet.

Today I want to talk about the pipe bomb scandal. There are two really, really crucial pieces that are up right now on Revolver.News about this pipe bomb. One of the pieces proves definitively that the FBI is withholding, hiding, critical footage of the ipe bomber actually planting the pipe bomb. Now, why in the world would the FBI that is so solicitous to the public [saying they] want to catch this person… They want to catch this person, and they withhold the one piece of footage that arguably would be the most effective to help the public identify who this person is. Or even know what the person did, because guess what?

sfw
sfw
August 18, 2022 10:16 am

Farmer Gez,I am amazed at the sheer number of signs on all our roads. They seem to be being erected everywhere. The ones that really get me are the signs that they put around some corners, about 2m high they are yellow with a large black arrow pointing in the direction of the corner, if you need these to get around a corner you shouldn’t be driving, worst thing is at night you have to use low beam at these corners as the reflection from the signs is enough to dazzle you, just ridiculous.

I don’t know if they’ve done it your way yet but most of our single lane roads now have ripple strips along the centreline, again if you need these to stop you veering into the other lane you shouldn’t be driving.

Notice how so many cars now have daytime running lights? I don’t know if they’re compulsory in new cars, my missus’s Hyundai has them, can’t turn them off.

The Hume had no speed cameras between Broadford and Wodonga, they’ve just installed one each way south of Euroa and are putting one in near Seymour. Guess Andrews needs more money.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 18, 2022 10:17 am

Liz Cheney Vows To Do ‘Whatever It Takes’ To Stop Trump

That’s worked well so far.

The interesting thing is how the commentariat has yet to draw a line through Democrat pleas for their establishment anti-Trump candidate, a 20% increased voter turnout, and a massive vote against Cheney.

It’s almost as if a large chunk of the US heartland doesn’t approve of the Deep State and all its works.

But hey, ho. Probably not worth considering in the political calculus.

cohenite
August 18, 2022 10:17 am

Top Endersays:
August 18, 2022 at 9:47 am
I like the cut of your jib Cohenite. Now I want you to get that published in the Hobart Mercury.

Send it in on my behalf will you.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2022 10:18 am

Some issue, massive chucks of road surface falling off.

All going to get worse too, since we’re due to have a third la Nina in a row.

Very noticeable in my LGA, the council is usually pretty good at patching but the last year or so they just can’t keep up. Autumn was the soggiest I can recall (our dams will never fill again but).

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 18, 2022 10:19 am

Mansell has a lot of European in him, how does he reconcile his own heritage?

IIRR rightly Mansell – who when younger had red hair, and still has blue eyes – has as an ancestor a Bass Strait sealer named Mansell of dubious reputation.

For over 40 years though, he’s traded off “white guilt” while earning a government quid at the Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre.

sfw
sfw
August 18, 2022 10:20 am

Re the roads breaking up, winter is only patch up season as all the asphalt crews are in northern Australia at this time of year, we’ve had a lot of rain up our way, not flooding rain, just consistent wetness, our roads are in a terrible state in NE Vic, the council seems to be no longer patching the roads, just putting up hazard signs and lowering speed limits.

Slow decay and malaise.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 18, 2022 10:22 am

IIRR rightly Mansell – who when younger had red hair, and still has blue eyes – has as an ancestor a Bass Strait sealer named Mansell of dubious reputation.

Edmund Mansell – shot, and enslaved as many Aborigines as anyone, in Bass Strait, in those days.

calli
calli
August 18, 2022 10:24 am

I wasn’t generalising about India, just pointing out an incongruity between the silver screen and aspects of the culture there. Just like the States.

The last musical from Hollywood I watched was LaLa Land. A bit more gritty and observant but still pure escapism.

Funny, I was thinking of Endeavour Morse just this morning and wondering which of Dexter’s books I would dust off and re-read. I keep telling myself that I must cull the bookcases, but I just can’t. The shelves mysteriously swell every time I go into a secondhand bookshop.

P
P
August 18, 2022 10:26 am

Catholic priest claims he’s been wrongly charged over Blockade Australia protest
ABC

Members of a group called Blockade Australia are facing possible jail time under tough new anti-protest laws

82-year-old Catholic priest Peter Murnane has been charged over the June protests, but he says it is a case of mistaken identity

johanna
johanna
August 18, 2022 10:34 am

Re roads – we all know we are dealing with crap quality to begin with, then the aftermath.

What about school projects to build Roman roads in regional areas? All kinds of interesting stuff could be built around it – like the history of civilisatiom.

Kids are faffing around in ‘organic gardens’ – why not get them onto the principles and practices of building Roman roads?

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 18, 2022 10:35 am

which of Dexter’s books I would dust off and re-read

Start at the beginning of the series, go on to the end, then stop.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 18, 2022 10:36 am

Bit hard to figure out what Liz Cheney’s end game is

And:

Grift.

Yep. Plus squealy, ineffective hand-waving. Sadly for Cheney, she’s got all that white privilege (actual, not imagined by social misfits) so her application to join The Squad will be rejected.

Getthefugoutahere.

Indolent
Indolent
August 18, 2022 10:39 am
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  1. Zaf, that’s the lame and gay “people of Springfield” tune by some soy douche. This is the original house banger.…

  2. Roads, rates and rubbish. Or not (the Tele): Clover Moore’s City of Sydney council will donate $22,000 to Rising Tide…

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