Open Thread – Tue 23 Aug 2022


Boar Lane Leeds, John Atkinson Grimshaw, 1881

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Gilas
Gilas
August 24, 2022 6:04 pm

DrBeauGan says:
August 24, 2022 at 5:30 pm

AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) is still a dream.

There’s a fundamental fallacy in asserting that something is impossible because you cannot imagine a way to do it.

Oh, I can imagine a way to do it!
A nice, matt black box with many etta-oompahs of quantum computing ASICs.. and some actuator attachments, for vision, senses, movement etc..
But after building it, how to program it?
Would a hyper-massive neural network program suffice?
And how to transfer someone’s pre-frontal and limbic neuronal network structure onto it?
How to include memory?
How to exclude residua of aging, like amyloid plaque interference?
Would I then feel and believe I am my real, conscious disembodied self in that black box, looking back at my inert, comatose carcass?
And who could trustfully perform the consciousness transfer?

It might happen, one day, but it’s presently a whole lot closer to impossible than not.

Oh come on
Oh come on
August 24, 2022 6:05 pm

the Paul Green suicide was apparently preceded by a very long and secret battle with depression. The final straw was probably his current job insecurity.

Okay. I don’t really understand why the cause is being attributed to CTE, though. A lot of song and dance about how his brain was donated to some sports research institute and how this would help with the study of CTE etc etc if depression was the cause. It’s kind of weird.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 24, 2022 6:08 pm

Lysander just don’t get the mongtypox. Trouble is you don’t know you’ve got it coz you’re always in la la land.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 24, 2022 6:08 pm

Serious question.. How?

1. Hollow out an asteroid, spin it, live inside it and send it out to the stars if the inhabitants vote for it. It would take a while, but do it a few million times and someone will get there.

2. Send out robots to water planets to drop algae to produce oxygen. Subsequently send robots with artificial placentas and fertilised eggs frozen, to be defrosted on arrival. The last would require close to light speeds, but that’s engineering.

On the subject of nothing colder than deep space, we appear to agree that you were wrong.

More seriously, if you’d been claiming, as many did a little more than a century ago, that man would never be able to fly, you’d have been wrong about that too. Your claim is rather similar and is founded on nothing more than lack of imagination and general pessimism. This has had a poor record at predicting the future, particularly since the seventeenth century.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 24, 2022 6:08 pm

The problem of transferring individual human consciousness/personality/memory over onto a machine is even more unlikely, given the (complete lack of) progress so far.
AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) is still a dream and, as a premise, doesn’t go anywhere near attempting to solve this problem

That’s not a problem that’s a magnificent moment that, apart from having my hair done, just made my day.
It’s a “computer says no” moment for Klaus Schwab.

Oh come on
Oh come on
August 24, 2022 6:09 pm

Kind of like…I die of a heart attack and my family has my brain donated to some research centre for the purpose of studying brain cancer, even though I didn’t have cancer. Doesn’t make sense.

Lysander
Lysander
August 24, 2022 6:09 pm

Gee thanks Ranga!!! Lol!!!

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 24, 2022 6:11 pm

It might happen, one day, but it’s presently a whole lot closer to impossible than not.

I entirely agree. Exactly the same can be said of humanity colonising the galaxy.

It’s all a bit idle, it’s not exactly practical to wait and see.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
August 24, 2022 6:12 pm

”And who could trustfully perform the consciousness transfer?”……….what is consciousness?
I THINK, THEREFORE I AM.

Lysander
Lysander
August 24, 2022 6:14 pm

I THINK, THEREFORE I AM.

Perfect justification for euthanasia! I don’t think or I don’t think anymore therefore I am not.

But that’s all very 20th century. These days its: I FEEL therefore I am.

Roger
Roger
August 24, 2022 6:15 pm

A lot of song and dance about how his brain was donated to some sports research institute and how this would help with the study of CTE etc etc if depression was the cause. It’s kind of weird.

CTE & depression are linked. Worth exploring.

I think the family is trying to honour his memory in a parctical way that may help others.

Lysander
Lysander
August 24, 2022 6:16 pm

Ciao Cats – outta here!

(And don’t worry Ranga, I re-read your post and I’ll stay away from getting the Mongtypox :P)

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 24, 2022 6:18 pm

Zoophilia: The Last Taboo Will Fall

Phytophiliacs will be watching interest.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 24, 2022 6:24 pm

I could well be stupidly wrong. But it seems to me that we’re in a world of scalding shit if people can get standing to sue simply on the basis of the shock of third party allegations.

Can I sue monty for exposing me to toxic levels of wrongology?
Im shocked someone that perspicacity challenged could avoid eating something toxic for so long.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 24, 2022 6:30 pm

Can I sue monty for exposing me to toxic levels of wrongology?

Class action!

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 24, 2022 6:30 pm

But that’s all very 20th century. These days its: I FEEL therefore I am.

Plus “I am, therefore I am entitled”.

Delta A
Delta A
August 24, 2022 6:31 pm

A quick update.

Monday was the funeral of my dear (frail) brother, who spent a mere week in the lovely suite which Son in Law had built for him in the big house.

We – the entire family, including KI kids – had a wonderful dinner together on the previous Sunday, with the grandies playing the piano, guitar and flute, and singing his favourites. He was happy and bright, joking and chatting, deriding the Power supporters with all the vigour of a Crows fan. Less than a week later, he was dead.

Awfully sad, and it cast a pall over all of us. Fortunately, KI son is still here, geeing us into action again.

All of his children, grandies, neices and nephews, brothers and sister have arranged to gather on Boxing Day at the big house, to celebrate again his life and to scatter his remaining ashes* in our memorial garden, in accordance with his wishes.

*A fanatical fisherman, he had a long standing agreement with his best friend that most of his ashes be buried at sea. The rest shall remain with us.

JC
JC
August 24, 2022 6:34 pm

More seriously, if you’d been claiming, as many did a little more than a century ago, that man would never be able to fly, you’d have been wrong about that too.

How many people are you counting who said 100 years ago said human flight was impossible? A majority of say engineers? This appears to be a distortion of reality.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 24, 2022 6:34 pm

Dr F,
But in a civil case wouldn’t all the previously suppressed stuff about these arseh*les be required to be divulged?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 24, 2022 6:35 pm

Gilas & Dr BG

Thanks, bbs. I think.

I view the extinction of the human species with calm equanimity. As long as it happens after I’ve kicked the bucket. While I quite like a few individual members, mostly the human race is pretty scrofulous.

bespoke
bespoke
August 24, 2022 6:36 pm

Delta

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 24, 2022 6:40 pm

Delta, I’ve been thinking of you and wondering if everything was ok.

So sorry to hear about your brother’s passing on. But to have his life on this earth finish while within the love of his family, is a wonderful blessing for him, and you, and all the family.

JC
JC
August 24, 2022 6:40 pm

Sorry to hear it, Delta. Good luck.

calli
calli
August 24, 2022 6:41 pm

Condolences, Delta. Always hard to put into words when a precious person is suddenly gone. It seems this is a season of loss.

Roger
Roger
August 24, 2022 6:48 pm

Celebrity epidemiologist appears to be suffering from publicity withdrawal symptoms:

Australians must change the way they live and accept the threat from COVID-19 and other viral infections will persist, a leading epidemiologist says.

Professor Raina MacIntyre, who leads the biosecurity program at the Kirby Institute in Sydney, says people are wrong to think the pandemic is over.

“The counter-narratives that are flying around, ‘Let’s get back to normal, take off your masks’, it’s denial,” she told AAP.

“Societally, we’re grieving for the lives we had in 2019 before COVID.

“We haven’t come to that stage of just accepting it and saying, ‘OK, this is here to stay and if we want to have a reasonable quality of life and not end up debilitated with chronic diseases, we’ve actually got to change the way we live’.”

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 24, 2022 6:49 pm

Kind of like…I die of a heart attack and my family has my brain donated to some research centre for the purpose of studying brain cancer, even though I didn’t have cancer. Doesn’t make sense.

Control group?

Gilas
Gilas
August 24, 2022 6:50 pm

Now getting Server error, just because I was responding to DrBG..
Calling Dover…

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 24, 2022 6:51 pm

Delta A so sad to hear of the loss of your brother who was to be part of grand design for your family. The goodness on display is most touching – may his spirit be at peace. Condolences to you and your family.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 24, 2022 6:53 pm

Now getting Server error, just because I was responding to DrBG..

That’s serious!

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 24, 2022 6:55 pm

Zoophilia: The Last Taboo Will Fall
Phytophiliacs will be watching interest.

I am not convinced that the zoophiliacs are serious until they include lampreys

cohenite
August 24, 2022 6:56 pm

Gilas made a reasonable comment about the very real possibility of being unable to travel to the stars.

I travel to the stars every time I read your comments head prefect.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 24, 2022 7:00 pm

It is very sad to lose a brother Delta. I lost my only brother in Septebmer 2020 after a sudden stroke, a week on life support, and then left to die once the artificial respiration tube was removed. He was sentient although blind and immobile, he could squeeze our hand with one of his, his only movement possible, and we waited for three days for him to pass. He was surrounded with love from us all, but it was a very sad and difficult time, a terrible struggle for him, a misery for us too.

His funeral was wonderful. The pictures of his happy life, his family his joy, his friends praising his achievements and good nature and the obvious good times he had in retirement were balm to the shattered souls who shared his last. A brother is someone who has known you as long as you have known yourself, in childhood and throughout life. That matters so much.

I am so glad your brother’s funeral has turned out well for you too.

Beertruk
August 24, 2022 7:00 pm

132andBushsays:
August 23, 2022 at 2:42 pm
Funny opening sketch on Louder with Crowder today.

“Biden farts, do do do do do do”
(To the tune of Baby Shark)

Shit….accidently reported comment.
Sorry Bush.

jupes
jupes
August 24, 2022 7:06 pm

From Zyco’s link at 4:20

James Heappey, the (UK) armed forces minister, backed plans by senior air force chiefs to look at ways they could legally boost diversity targets.
However he said that if there was any evidence of positive discrimination being carried out then those responsible “will be held vigorously to account”.

Cognitive dissonance. Think about the utter stupidity of that statement. These fools are running the UK armed forces. Putin must be laughing his arse off.

BTW the ADF does exactly the same. They get away with racist and misandrist discrimination by changing the meaning of words. Quotas are bad, targets are good. Of course, in the way they are applied they mean exactly the same thing.

Self-destructive idiocy beyond belief.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 24, 2022 7:12 pm

Farnham trooferism is extremely dumb. Smoker gets cancer, news at 11.

Lardarse doughnut scoffer gets die-beetus and has extremities amputated, news at 11.

m0nty
August 24, 2022 7:13 pm

I’ll give you maybe Bannon could be a problem. But Flynn and Patel are both people with a long history of service and pretty good records – Flynn had that whole perjury-trap thing, but even the DoJ dropped that when the truth came out. Patel was a DoJ prosecutor and worked for Devin Nunes – as far as I know, never even hinted that he has been anything but honest and straight-forward.

The Flynn case was dropped because Trump pardoned him. Devin Nunes is crooked as a two-bob watch.

If those three are your star witnesses, you’re going to lose.

dopey
dopey
August 24, 2022 7:13 pm

ABC News: “George Pell. Victorian court clears the way for civil action against the Cardinal.
Reporter: “Prosecutors ‘pinned the blame’ on George Pell.” for the abuse.

Franx
Franx
August 24, 2022 7:16 pm

Delta, condolences on the death of your brother. May he know eternal blessings. So true what Lizzie says about brothers and their significance as our childhood companions.

P
P
August 24, 2022 7:18 pm

Gilas, re pancreatic cancer there are good outcomes sometimes.
Seven or it may now be eight years ago my brother, now 73, had his complete pancreas removed along with gall bladder, spleen, and some of his small intestine. The surgeon wasn’t sure they had got it all so he had chemo for three months after. It took a long time balancing diet and insulin but he got there and today cycles, walks and swims everyday.
He was very fit before the cancer diagnosis, never drank alcohol or smoked in his life, and not overweight. Today he looks young for someone turning 74 this year.
Pancreatic cancer is not always a death sentence.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2022 7:20 pm

Sad to hear that Delta. Best wishes. It is nice he was able to be in your new house at the last.

Vicki
Vicki
August 24, 2022 7:23 pm

Today he looks young for someone turning 74 this year.
Pancreatic cancer is not always a death sentence.

What a wonderful story, P! It has made my day!

Frank
Frank
August 24, 2022 7:27 pm

A middle aged woman had attempted suicide by ingesting Drano, but she didn’t die.

My mother worked at a surgery that had a patient that tried something similar, twice. Not suicide, more a deeply twisted self hate thing, she rinsed her fanny with drano then limped in to get someone to fix it up. The doctor that dealt with her said the smell was incredible. The patient subsequently died later from something unrelated.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 24, 2022 7:28 pm

The inner solar system can probably be handled by chemical rocket propulsion or nuclear thermal.
Musk’s Starship is good for out to Ceres. Refueling in Earth orbit is the key. Travel times no worse than the early days of the British Empire
Want to go faster/further? – Project Orion. May the first two ships be the Freeman Dyson and the Ted Taylor.
I’ve seen credible theoretical designs for Orion type interstellar ships using thermonuclear charges. The nice thing is the ship works better the bigger it is. Way back in 1958 Orion was being worked on. They even had a Project pilot. The US was having trouble putting a few pound satellite into orbit. The Orion guys said “4000 tons is good. 4 million would be better.”
Air, food and water – solved or not difficult. Gravity – spin gravity will work. We just don’t know how much is necessary for humans to thrive. Will 0.16 g do (Luna)? 0.38 (mars)?
All the while there will be meaningful work as we bring life to the universe. *This* is a suitable task for humans.
If we find other minds it will be good to get their take on what to make of it all.

cohenite
August 24, 2022 7:33 pm

But it seems to me that we’re in a world of scalding shit if people can get standing to sue simply on the basis of the shock of third party allegations.

Standing for activists in environmental claims against fossil enterprises has already turned the shit molten.

Indolent
Indolent
August 24, 2022 7:37 pm
flyingduk
flyingduk
August 24, 2022 7:38 pm

Since Sunday, the pooch has clocked up 2k in vet/medical bills and it doesn’t look like ending because he’s not eating and the vet suspects it could be pancreatitis, which means he could be in for another bout of hydration tomorrow. This means another 800 bucks. I’m about the pull the pin on the little bastard, but he’s so cute I’d feel like a murderer. Tough decision.

The 29 yo pony I rescued from my clueless neighbours after they inherited it with the property recently cost me $2000 after spiking an eye eating my roses and developing a corneal ulcer.

cohenite
August 24, 2022 7:40 pm

Bernard Gaynor summarises his plight:

On 2 September 2022 the Local Court of New South Wales will determine if I am guilty of vilifying homosexual activist and vexatious litigant, Gary Burns.

If I am found guilty, it will be on the basis that the Court has granted itself retrospective and extra-territorial powers to ‘enforce’ New South Wales’ law in Queensland, even though it has already been determined that no such power exists under the Anti-Discrimination Act 1977 (NSW) and that the entire process at the time of my articles was unconstitutional.

The Court will also need to determine that Gary Burns is not required to bring complaints against me within the legislated process of the Anti-Discrimination Act 1977 (NSW) and that it has power to hear, determine and punish me for new and unclear complaints regarding my statements made almost a decade ago that were never even lodged with the ‘Thought Police’.

The Court will also need to determine that Gary Burns’ complaints against me are not vexatious even though he has publicly boasted that he was lodging complaints against me purely for the purpose of bankrupting me. And it will need to determine that Gary Burns’ oral evidence denying he had published my address is more reliable than my uncontested documentary evidence of his emails doing just that.

And the magistrate will also need to be confident that there is no issue of apprehended bias after she made unfounded accusations against my legal team earlier in this matter which she has since unreservedly withdrawn. This did not stop my solicitor from being subject to investigation by the New South Wales Law Society after Gary Burns’ used those false comments to complain against my solicitor.

Above all, the Court will also need to determine that it is unlawful to criticise naked homosexual men who expose themselves to children at ‘Gay Pride’ parades. At the end of the day, this entire process is about protecting such behaviour from criticism.

Given all of this, I am confident in my legal position. However, these facts have been evident to all in the legal system since 2014 and it has made no difference whatsoever. The process is the punishment and so this farce has ground on.

Consequently, I am not confident at all that the legal system will provide the justice that it is required to. I now face fines up to $100,000 per complaint and I am in a position where I cannot tell you exactly how many complaints I am facing because of the confusion that Court has allowed. There are definitely three but may be five.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 24, 2022 7:57 pm

Condolences Delta.

Seems to be the season for it. Yesterday was the first anniversary of the old man’s funeral.

Which I was unable to attend.

Andrews. Sutton. You’re still in the book. The old boy’s not forgotten, and those two aren’t forgiven.

Rabz
August 24, 2022 7:59 pm

Cats attending CPAC 2022 in Sydney may want to watch Andrew Cooper tonight on Sky News with “The World According to Rowan Dean”. He will detail “an attack on CPAC by the cancel culture crowd involving the ALPBC and a seemingly deliberate twisting of words and images to cast a vile shadow over CPAC’s reputation.”

I wonder if there’ll be collectivist thugs hanging around outside the conference abusing and threatening those attending?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 24, 2022 8:00 pm

A middle aged woman had attempted suicide by ingesting Drano, but she didn’t die

It is said that there was a middle aged woman in Melbourne once who decided to do the same thing.

Post-Drano, she evidently decided the agony burning her guts up was too much – so much so, she slashed her throat open with a bread knife, in the manner of using a hacksaw to cut the head off a bolt.

A bread knife.

It is also said that the aftermath was extremely untidy indeed.

Rabz
August 24, 2022 8:03 pm

Condolences, Delta.

KD – a year ago was about the height of the hitlerist hysteria during the 2021 Sydney schlockdown, presided over by that foul vulturous slag, Beryl Gladyschlocklian.

Rabz
August 24, 2022 8:06 pm

Not to mention that cretinous preposterous lardarse Health Hazzard and the Gollumesque public ‘elf witch.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 24, 2022 8:10 pm

Seems to be the season for it. Yesterday was the first anniversary of the old man’s funeral.

I went to work in a mood, best described as foul, on the first anniversary of my younger brother’s funeral – it was a couple of years before I found out that it was normal for anniversaries of such events not to be good days.

Frank
Frank
August 24, 2022 8:11 pm

that foul vulturous slag, Beryl Gladyschlocklian

Biltong in a frock, like a non carnivorous version of Julie Bishop.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2022 8:14 pm

Gary Burns is a sad fucker.

Some people don’t like me. Meh.

I hope their kids turn out better than them and aren’t fuckwits.

I don’t take them to court (and, “court”) like a monomaniacal vindictive crazed ex spouse over several years.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 24, 2022 8:14 pm

Lysander, 4.08:

Will gay teachers who refuse Monkeypox jab be docked of pay?

That’s pretty good, even without the ‘docking’ reference.

NB: Do NOT look up the Urban Dictionary definition of ‘docking’.

Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2022 8:17 pm

“Delta Asays:
August 24, 2022 at 6:31 pm”

My condolences Delta. Thoughts and prayers.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 24, 2022 8:23 pm

Delta Asays:
August 24, 2022 at 6:31 pm

Condolences Delta.
It’s never easy, no matter what the circumstances are, but it’s great that the family has rallied around.

Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2022 8:27 pm

“Dotsays:
August 24, 2022 at 8:14 pm
Gary Burns is a sad fucker.”

Nope, Burns is not a sad “fucker”, he’s a malicious, vindictive and very litigious piece of human garbage (and that’s perhaps a too generous description) who’s spent years pursuing people he doesn’t like, particularly Christians, through various courts.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2022 8:28 pm

Humans must colonise other planets then other star systems then other galaxies.

We are working on ever smaller fission and working towards viable fusion. DARPA is funding exotic propulsion. Miguel Alcubierre showed a mathematical proof that GR can be manipulated to overcome SR. The energy requirements of this are being shown by researchers (some at NASA) to be ever smaller. There is also a mathematical link between gravity and electromagnetism.

We might live in clown world but the future still has hope.

Frank
Frank
August 24, 2022 8:31 pm

NB: Do NOT look up the Urban Dictionary definition of ‘docking’.

Bastard.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 24, 2022 8:36 pm

Channel surfing before & landed on PM Live talking to Joe Hildebrand.
Paraphrasing Hildebrand: I don’t condone the Labor party’s Mediscare campaign against Turnbull but at the same time I don’t condone the estate tax scare the Libs ran in 2019.

What the actual fuck?
2019 was all about the ALP’s policies of getting rid of negative gearing & ditching franking credit refunds.
If there was an estate tax scare, I didn’t hear it.

Hildebrand is so low information.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2022 8:37 pm

Rabz says:
August 24, 2022 at 8:06 pm
Not to mention that cretinous preposterous lardarse Health Hazzard and the Gollumesque public ‘elf witch.

Nor, the pretentious Ugandan VC winning, gun toting & gun control loving hypocrite, hypertensive fat oaf of a Police Minister, Davey “Don’t You Know Who I Am?” Elliot.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2022 8:40 pm

David Elliot would have you arrested for eating a succulent Chinese meal, he is democracy manifested.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 24, 2022 8:40 pm

Not to mention that cretinous preposterous lardarse Health Hazzard and the Gollumesque public ‘elf witch.

One after the other sprouting the new world order.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 24, 2022 8:41 pm

Docking

Jeebus wept why did I look that up!

m0nty
August 24, 2022 8:43 pm

CPAC’s reputation

LOL

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 24, 2022 8:44 pm

Nope, Burns is not a sad “fucker”, he’s a malicious, vindictive and very litigious piece of human garbage (and that’s perhaps a too generous description) who’s spent years pursuing people he doesn’t like

If the Slimy Moaning Hemorrhoid is to be believed, he’s despised in the gay community.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 24, 2022 8:47 pm

2019 was all about the ALP’s policies of getting rid of negative gearing & ditching franking credit refunds.
If there was an estate tax scare, I didn’t hear it.

If, by “estate tax” you mean death duties, the ACTU was demanding such a tax, and they’ve been on the Greens platform for years.

Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2022 8:52 pm

“Hildebrand is so low information.”

He’s an idiot, he doesn’t know whether he’s Arthur or Martha.

HT
HT
August 24, 2022 8:54 pm

JC says:
August 24, 2022 at 5:09 pm
Talking about medic..

Since Sunday, the pooch has clocked up 2k in vet/medical bills and it doesn’t look like ending because he’s not eating and the vet suspects it could be pancreatitis, which means he could be in for another bout of hydration tomorrow. This means another 800 bucks. I’m about the pull the pin on the little bastard, but he’s so cute I’d feel like a murderer. Tough decision.

I’m not kidding, the vet (gal) is without a doubt the best looking doc/vet – whatever- in the southern hemisphere. I thought I’d mention it.

That good looking vet is trading on her charms old mate. My labrodoodle also got pancreatitis just last Sunday. Cost $659, no return visits and his doing fine and is on the mend. $659 and that was a Sunday…

Frank
Frank
August 24, 2022 8:59 pm

[Hildebrand] He’s an idiot, he doesn’t know whether he’s Arthur or Martha.

He seems likeable though which makes it worse.

Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2022 9:03 pm

“He seems likeable though which makes it worse.”

Yep.

Frank
Frank
August 24, 2022 9:08 pm

Perhaps we should cut him some slack for all those years he was sentenced to channel ten’s version of The View. Residual brain damage from simpering on cue for the morning TV audiences.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 24, 2022 9:09 pm

Young woman left devastated after she transitioned to a man and had her breasts, uterus and ovaries removed sues psychiatrist for approving hormone therapy after meeting him only ONCE

Jay Langadinos, now 31, transitioned from a woman to a man in her early 20s
She is suing psychiatrist for professional negligence over her transition to a man
Ms Langadinos said she has been left with ‘injuries and disabilities’ after surgery
She claims Dr Patrick Toohey failed to take enough precautions over transition

Daily Mail.. Words fail me, they honestly do.

132andBush
132andBush
August 24, 2022 9:13 pm

Condolences to you and the family, Delta.

Real Deal
Real Deal
August 24, 2022 9:19 pm

NB: Do NOT look up the Urban Dictionary definition of ‘docking’.

Bastard.

+ 1
I need eye bleach and draino.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 24, 2022 9:20 pm

Delta being with ones you love when you die cannot be a bad thing. When my FiL died recently he went happily with MiL looking at each other. We can ask no more. Stay strong as I know you will.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 24, 2022 9:28 pm

[Hildebrand] He’s an idiot, he doesn’t know whether he’s Arthur or Martha.

He seems likeable though which makes it worse.

As I have said before – J Alfred Prufrock. But without the silent fantasy life where he escapes his unbearable real life as an obsequious eunuch flattering self-important prattling women.

miltonf
miltonf
August 24, 2022 9:35 pm

Anal’s duchessing that evil old Garrett turd. Barker college sure has turned out some real horrors. Exhibit B- butch Carlton.

Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2022 9:36 pm

“young woman left devastated after she transitioned to a man and had her breasts, uterus and ovaries removed sues psychiatrist for approving hormone therapy after meeting him only ONCE”

I can’t believe we live in a society that not only condones this, is actively celebrating it. Remember Katherine Deves’ word for this, “mutilation”. I to ask, is this not “mutilation”? I should remind people that for her honesty about this “mutilation”, Katherine was smeared, libelled, screamed at, shouted at, lied about and ridiculed, including by so called wets in the Liberal Party, such as the unlamented Rent Zimmerboy and Karma Sharma. Deves has been vindicated.

Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2022 9:39 pm

So Luna Park has pulled out of hosting CPAC, thanks to pressure from progressive scum. Unfucking believable.

calli
calli
August 24, 2022 9:39 pm

J Alfred Prufrock

Chuckle.

He doesn’t appear to be balding yet. But I bet he wears his trousers rolled.

Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2022 9:40 pm

Conservatives aren’t welcome at Luna Park.

miltonf
miltonf
August 24, 2022 9:42 pm

The silver lining of the Anal cloud was the departure of Fraudenberg, Zimmerperson, Sharma, Falinsky and Wilson.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2022 9:45 pm

Lysander

For example, there’s no law to stop China parking a stationary satellite over Canberra. Permanently.

Other than orbital dynamics. Geostationary satellites must be basically over the equator (can wobble a little to either side).

miltonf
miltonf
August 24, 2022 9:46 pm

So Luna Park has pulled out of hosting CPAC, thanks to pressure from progressive scum. Unfucking believable.

we live in very dangerous times and the media-political establishment doesn’t even see the need to pretend about democracy and free speech.

miltonf
miltonf
August 24, 2022 9:48 pm

But then in 1984 I remember posters of Geoffrey Blainey appearing around Sydney saying ‘shut this racist up’

JC
JC
August 24, 2022 9:48 pm

Sounds 100% credible, HT.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 24, 2022 9:50 pm

Renewed hope for justice in case of Croatian Six

By Shirley Stedul
18 minutes ago August 24, 2022
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On February 8, 1979, six young Croatian-Australians were ­arrested in Lithgow and Sydney and charged with conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism in ­Australia.

What followed was not only the longest-running criminal court case in Australia but, since new evidence has come to light, the so-called Croatian Six case is seen as one of the most serious mis­carriages of justice in Australian legal history.

Although all six men persistently pleaded their innocence, and evidence presented in court was weak, some of it extracted as a ­result of police brutality, in 1981 all six men in the dock were found guilty as charged and each was sentenced to 15 years in prison. Their appeal was dismissed.

Despite previous failed ­attempts, Sydney barrister Sebastian De Brennan and solicitor Helen Cook, acting pro bono, ­recently made a third application to review the case.

The NSW Supreme Court has now designated judge Robertson Wright to look at their application. Justice Wright is expected to make his findings known before the end of this year. With some 5000 pages in 20 volumes of trial transcript he has much work to do.

Given past rejections for a ­review, the appointment of Justice Wright has provided hope within the Croatian community that a genuine breakthrough may be forthcoming.

Prior to the 1991 break-up of the federation of Yugoslavia, a constant, no-holds-barred war was being waged by the Yugoslav ­secret police, Uprava Drzavne Bezbednosti (UDBA), to prevent the disintegration of the failing federation into its constituent ­republics. UDBA had a “licence to kill” if that’s what it took to achieve that aim. The Yugoslav ­secret police not only severely persec­uted those in Yugoslavia who ­advocated independence and freedom from Josip Tito’s brand of communism, but similarly tar­geted those who had gone to live in other parts of the world.

The long arm of UDBA reached into Australia, where it conducted a series of campaigns, including “false flag” acts of violence, in order to brand the Croatian-Australian community as “extremists” and “terrorists”. UDBA also used murder to ­silence those engaged in legal political work in democratic nations, including Germany and the US.

John Schindler, a former specialist on Balkan issues with the US National Security Agency, ­described UDBA’s involvement in the case of the Croatian Six as “one of its “great successes”, so devastating was it not only to the lives of the six men, but the whole ­Croatian-Australian community.

In an ABC Four Corners documentary filmed in 1991, reporter Chris Masters tracked down Vico Virkez, the chief crown witness against the Croatian Six. His real name was Vitomir Misimovic. Having fled Australia on a Yugoslav passport before the end of the trial, he was then living in Jab­lanica, in the Gradiska municipality of what is now the Republika Srpska entity of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

In the Four Corners interview, Misimovic openly admitted that he had provided false testimony in court under instruction from NSW police. He said that he had been warned of serious consequences if he failed to obey them.

However, in 1994, Misimovic’s own admission was not considered sufficient evidence for the Croatian Six to be granted an ­application for a review of the convictions.

Former federal government lawyer Ian Cunliffe warned that crucial evidence about UDBA ­activities had been withheld from the trial. Evidence of systematic abuse of the legal process by the NSW police units was also disregarded. Of note, Roger Rogerson, who led one arresting team, was later imprisoned for serious crimes, including murder during the course of a drug deal.

In his book, Reasonable Doubt: Spies, Police and the Croatian Six, published in 2019, Australian journalist Hamish McDonald drew on ASIO files from the National ­Archives of Australia. They show ASIO had been monitoring Virkez/Misimovic, who was associating with a known UDBA officer at the Yugoslav consulate-general in Sydney for several months prior to the arrests while masquerading as a Croat nationalist within the ­Croatian community.

NSW police were told of the ASIO findings; however assistant police commissioner Roy Whitelaw told ASIO that if this information got to the opposition, meaning the defence lawyers, it would “blow a hole in the police case”. The information was withheld, and the jury was assured by the crown that there was “not a skerrick of evidence” that Virkez/Misimovic was working with the Yugoslav intelligence service.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2022 9:51 pm

The Flynn case was dropped because Trump pardoned him. Devin Nunes is crooked as a two-bob watch.

If those three are your star witnesses, you’re going to lose.

m0nty-fa the wrongologist has spoken, Trump is safe.

JC
JC
August 24, 2022 9:51 pm

Who is Gary Burns?

Beertruk
August 24, 2022 9:52 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
August 24, 2022 at 8:14 pm
Lysander, 4.08:

Will gay teachers who refuse Monkeypox jab be docked of pay?

That’s pretty good, even without the ‘docking’ reference.

NB: Do NOT look up the Urban Dictionary definition of ‘docking’.

Frank:
August 24, 2022 at 8:31 pm
Bastard.
Barking Toad:
August 24, 2022 at 8:41 pm
Jeebus wept why did I look that up!
Real Deal:
August 24, 2022 at 9:19 pm
+ 1
I need eye bleach and draino.

lol 🙂

Reminds me of Adam and Eve and the apple tree.
KD warned you as well, but…no…couldn’t help yourselves… lol

Indolent
Indolent
August 24, 2022 9:54 pm
Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2022 9:55 pm

“JCsays:
August 24, 2022 at 9:51 pm
Who is Gary Burns?”

A homosexual pest.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 24, 2022 9:57 pm

Nope, Burns is not a sad “fucker”, he’s a malicious, vindictive and very litigious piece of human garbage (and that’s perhaps a too generous description) who’s spent years pursuing people he doesn’t like, particularly Christians, through various courts.

Burns and those who engage in various form of “law fare” are not the actual problem.

The parliaments that pass laws that allow law fare to exist are the problem.

rickw
rickw
August 24, 2022 9:59 pm

For example, there’s no law to stop China parking a stationary satellite over Canberra. Permanently.

There is one law that applies: Why?

Pointless parking a satellite over a bunch of Mongs that you already own!

Franx
Franx
August 24, 2022 10:01 pm

Zk2A – 9.50
Intriguing.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 24, 2022 10:01 pm

Indolent says:
August 24, 2022 at 9:54 pm
Japan PM Kishida orders new nuclear power plant construction

Good man.

Kishida’s administration aims to secure electric power in the medium to long term with a plan to restart up to 17 nuclear power plants beginning in the summer of 2023.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2022 10:01 pm

Delta A

Sorry to hear about your brother, condolences to you and your extended family.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2022 10:03 pm

Re the Croatian Six, back in the 1980s, there was rumoured to be a group in DFAT known as the “Belgrade Mafia”.

Beertruk
August 24, 2022 10:03 pm

Who is Gary Burns?”

A homosexual pest.

Who presents as an aggrieved permanent victim who uses continuous litigation lawfare as a permanent job extract cash from his victims.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 24, 2022 10:04 pm

Dot at 8.40:

David Elliot would have you arrested for eating a succulent Chinese meal, he is democracy manifested.

One thing’s for sure. He knows his judo.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 24, 2022 10:08 pm

Who is Gary Burns?

Executive Summary

Thank you for the opportunity to lodge this submission with Portfolio Committee No. 5 – Legal Affairs as part of its inquiry into the Anti-Discrimination Amendment (Complaint Handling) Bill 2020.

I support the passage of this bill.

Mr Garry Burns has lodged 37 complaints against me since mid-2014. I responded to his latest complaint earlier this month.
Mr Burns has stated that he has lodged complaints to:
– bankrupt me;
– avoid his own financial difficulties; and
– harass and embarrass me.

Mr Burns is almost the sole complainant of homosexual vilification in New South Wales today and he has lodged the vast majority of such complaints ever lodged in New South Wales’ history.

The New South Wales Anti-Discrimination Board has refused to investigate the vexatious motivations behind Mr Burns’ complaints. Instead, it routinely removes evidence contained in his communications from my response to his complaint and describes this evidence as ‘irrelevant’.

Clearly, the ADB is abusing its statutory powers and aiding and abetting a man who is improperly seeking to use this law to silence conservative and Christian commentary in Australia.

The ADB has also refused to accept a test case that I won against Mr Burns that ruled that his complaints were misconceived and that the Anti-Discrimination Act 1977 (NSW) did not extend to ‘public acts’ in Queensland.
The cost of defending myself in these matters is now approximately $400,000. I have also been deprived of an opportunity for income due to the time spent responding to these matters and they have also caused considerable stress and harm to my family’s peace and happiness.

In 2018 I was forced to sell my home in order to cover these costs.

This submission contains detailed information about the conduct of Mr Burns and the ADB and I hope that it is of use to the committee in its inquiry into this bill. It can be made public.

I am willing to appear before the committee to provide evidence.
Bernard Gaynor
26 April 2020

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

JC says: August 24, 2022 at 9:51 pm

Who is Gary Burns?

Over the top homosexual activist & serial litigant capitalising on the NSW anti-discrimination Act to sue-for-profit Catholic figures, most notably Bernard Gaynor.
Provisions of the act mean he trawls newspapers & other media, looking for something to pretend to be offended by, then brings a case against the author.
The commission pays all costs of prosecution, investigation, etc. The respondent, who need not even be in NSW, has to pay all their own costs of defence.

Should Burns’ case (any, he brings lots) fail, he loses nothing.
Should he win, the fine is paid to him, personally.

He has a Twitter account.

Indolent
Indolent
August 24, 2022 10:13 pm
HT
HT
August 24, 2022 10:22 pm

JC says:
August 24, 2022 at 9:48 pm
Sounds 100% credible, HT.

I have the revue or, happy to email it and the pathology tests. They wanted to keep him in overnight for an extra $1,300, we declined. He got an injection of pain killer and a broth laced with pain killers (tastes like chicken, apparently ?) and his doing fine. Except for number twos, they’re scared ATM and Mrs HT is quite worried about her fur-child.

Our previous poodle (now at the Rainbow Bridge) had pancreatitis. She was put on a “bland diet” (Mrs HT has ever since cooked for the dogs ??), rice, veggies & mince basically. Poodle didn’t have a problem since. We suspect the current Labradoodle, 10yo now, got a feasting of hand made, pork sausage rolls serendipitously off the Grandkids on Saturday, and that what (we think) sent him to vet on Sunday.

All that is to say:
1). I don’t give a flying f’ if you believe me if not. $659, I have the receipt.

2.) That bland diet, rice, frozen veggies & mince seemed to keep the problem at bay, and it seems that poodle or poodle-crosses seem prone to this condition.

HT
HT
August 24, 2022 10:24 pm

Ummm, emojis turned into ?’s and bloody tiny iPhone screen and bloody autocorrect >:(

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 24, 2022 10:30 pm

You learn a lot on the Cat.

For me, the most distressing thing today:

dover0beach says:
August 24, 2022 at 12:52 pm
Distraught parents now face prosecution if they don’t accept gender transition of their vulnerable kids – as experts slam radical new law based on ‘ideology and falsehood’:

Truly terrible; about as bad as the power of the state can get. Made worse by the lack of popular outrage.

The lunatics are well and truly in charge.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 24, 2022 10:30 pm

Condolences, Delta.

HT
HT
August 24, 2022 10:36 pm

Barking Toad says:
August 24, 2022 at 8:41 pm
Docking

Jeebus wept why did I look that up!

“They” bastardise everything, even language loses its innocence.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 24, 2022 10:54 pm

Over the top homosexual activist & serial litigant capitalising on the NSW anti-discrimination Act to sue-for-profit Catholic figures, most notably Bernard Gaynor.

Any of the bush lawyers on this blog help out? I remember reading somewhere about someone being declared a “vexatious litigant” and they had to seek permission from the Court to take any further legal action?

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2022 10:55 pm

Hmm site has issues

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2022 10:57 pm

In the Four Corners interview, Misimovic openly admitted that he had provided false testimony in court under instruction from NSW police.

If the police who did this other than Rogerson don’t even get sued we should all be furious.

Look they’re probably all dead or vegetables.

But they should be gaoled and have their assets seized or incinerated.

Franx
Franx
August 24, 2022 11:05 pm

DrF
They want you think they are in charge.
Not true.

Jorge
Jorge
August 24, 2022 11:08 pm

Noticed a couple of reports on evening news of the case of the little 7 y o Indian girl whose parents took her to hospital in Perth after she fell ill.
She was sent home but came back, obviously with something seriously wrong but kept being fobbed off. Mother down on her knees begging for attention as she worsened and eventually expired. Parents claim the doctor on duty barely spoke to them before going off duty.

Had me wondering if the doc was also Indian. Did he react that way because of caste considerations. No contact because the family were filth from whom he would be polluted ?

I don’t believe an enquiry would touch that question.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 24, 2022 11:16 pm

Well Cats, it’s 830 in the morning in New York and I am standing outside The Trump Building. Have knocked but the Orange One is not in.

I thought there was a MAGA shop nearby but can’t see it.

No demonstrators despite fine weather. Although yesterday in Times Square there was a derro lying in the pavement next to a sign proclaiming “Trump stole my weed”. Cannabis for over 21s is legal here I think, or so adverts on the Metro urging “responsible use” say. Three NYPD finest stood nearby presumably protecting derro free speech.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 24, 2022 11:17 pm

Look at me!
Don’t look at me! The Tele:

A Sydney nightclub has banned patrons from “staring at someone from afar” without prior “verbal consent” in a bid to make the venue a safe space.

Darlinghurst institution Club 77 unveiled the new Safety and Harassment policy earlier this month which will see them dispatch a “Safety Officer” in a pink fluoro vest to deal with complaints which breach rules which also stipulate that any interaction between patrons should have prior verbal consent.

‘Excuse me madam, may I look at you from across this crowded room?’
‘What?’

‘I SAID, MAY I LOOK AT YOU ACROSS THIS CROWDED ROOM?’
‘Oh. You may.’

‘The brightness of your cheek doth shame the stars….’
‘What?’

‘I SAID…’

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2022 11:23 pm

A Sydney nightclub has banned patrons from “staring at someone from afar” without prior “verbal consent” in a bid to make the venue a safe space.

Cherry 2000 and Demolition Man were documentaries leaked by John Titor.

Franx
Franx
August 24, 2022 11:42 pm

Oh she doth teach the torchers to burn bright.
Said Romeo as he spoke of Juliet across the room.
Something about her presence being like a rich jewel in an Ethiop’s ear. A beautiful jewel on a velvet black background.
Did my heart love till now? Foreswear , it sight, for I ne’er saw true beauty till this night.
(Ah but the new harassment rules.)

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 25, 2022 12:17 am

A Sydney nightclub has banned patrons from “staring at someone from afar” without prior “verbal consent” in a bid to make the venue a safe space prevent Monkeypox.

Franx
Franx
August 25, 2022 12:32 am

Ah, the GAZE.
Who is constituted, so to speak, by whom, in the ‘look’.

rickw
rickw
August 25, 2022 12:44 am

Within 5 years ordinary people will not have the right to fly.

I need to keep my filled up passports for future generations. They won’t believe what was lost.

Franx
Franx
August 25, 2022 12:52 am

rickw -I understand the implications, yet the right to fly was and is a matter of money. It is the matter of money which is at stake .

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 25, 2022 1:32 am

Sorry to hear about the hound JC.
We’ve got a couple of old ones if you really need to keep seeing that vet.
The barking?
He’s defending his patch and his owner.
No bad thing as long as it’s not excessive.

Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 4:08 am

A.F. Branco. Exactly.

Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 4:14 am
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 25, 2022 4:54 am

Thanks Tom

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 25, 2022 5:07 am

Matt Taibbi posted a paywalled column re the Trump raid.
I’m posting in full so get your scroll finger ready.
It goes through the narrative changes the surrogates have switched to (as Cats would have seen by the talking points-in-chief posting here).
My criticism of Taibbi is he paywalls his columns that could be perceived as not anti Trump enough so they can’t be shared easily.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 25, 2022 5:07 am

The Great Disappearing Raid Story
Did that big news two weeks ago actually happen?

Excuse me for giving a shit, but what happened to the Trump raid story?

Two weeks ago, the FBI raid on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home was the biggest story on earth and seemingly one of the most consequential American news events since 9/11. The search inspired a few hours of social media jubilation, followed by roughly a week of frenzied leaking as a parade of national security soothsayers unspooled sinister scenarios on TV, and then — nothing. The line went dead. By last week’s end, the cancellation of Brian Stelter on CNN was a top national headline in comparison.

With a caveat that the relative quiet could be upended by a court decision Thursday, could we pause to reflect on the oddness of this episode? Has a story this big ever receded to the back pages this quickly?

Once the FBI finished searching, everyone from Andrew Cuomo to the New Yorker to Mother Jones to George Will at the Washington Post pointed out the obvious, that the Justice Department needed to quickly produce an explanation, if not an indictment, to avoid the disaster of allowing the perception of a politicized raid to fester.

Instead of providing that explanation, officials across the board posed in the manner of comic strip figures, each pointing at the other and appearing genuinely surprised to be answering questions about it. On the day after the search, White House spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre dumped the matter squarely in the Attorney General’s lap, denying President Joe Biden knew what was coming a remarkable eight times:

One: “No.”

Two: “The President was not briefed.”

Three: He “was not aware of it.”

Four: “No one at the White House was given a heads up.”

Five: “That did not happen.”

Six: “The White House learned about this FBI search from public reports.”

Seven. “We learned just like the American public did yesterday.”

Eight: “We did not have advance notice of this activity.”

It now looks like that’s all reporters are going to get from Biden, at least until the next time his handlers let him out of his cage. When Fox asked for more comment Sunday, the White House referred them back to Jean-Pierre’s remarks. This is the political equivalent of Biden wedging a hornet’s nest on Merrick Garland’s head and holding it there.

The Attorney General strode to a press conference podium three days after the raid looking like a condemned man. He hinted the raid only became public knowledge because Trump blabbed about it, then said the DOJ only filed a motion to release the search warrant “in light of the former president’s public confirmation of the search” and because of “substantial public interest.” Garland toward the end of his remarks said he’d “personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter,” briefly held his hand up to beseech reporters to hold their questions, and Snagglepussed out, exit stage right, without answering one.

The four-minute performance played like a hostage video. The idea of Garland both filing a motion to release the warrant and making a public appearance solely because of the post-raid reaction suggests he, too, was taken by surprise, and didn’t expect to be facing questions. If there was any amount of planning before the raid, this would be impossible.
Yet it appeared so.

Virtually simultaneous to Garland’s bizarro presser, the Washington Post released a story entitled “FBI searched Trump’s home to look for nuclear documents and other items, sources say.” Post reporters Devlin Barrett, Josh Dawsey, Perry Stein and Shane Harris cited the ever-present “people familiar with the matter” to tell us “classified documents relating to nuclear weapons” had been among the items FBI agents sought, adding the unusual raid underscored “deep concern” about “the types of information” sources thought “could be located” in Mar-a-Lago. They went on to add:

They did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, including whether it involved weapons belonging to the United States or some other nation.

Just throwing it out there, that the raid might have been about some other country’s nuclear secrets! The Washington Post’s anonymously-sourced stunner was the beginning and end of the nuclear secrets story, however. Not one thing has come out about it since, apart from a brief flurry of speculative features (“What nuclear secrets could Trump have possibly taken?” asked Vox, while proudly gullible Post columnist Jennifer Rubin quipped, “Leaving with nuclear secrets would be Trump’s dumbest, scariest stunt yet”).

A week after announcing their motion to unseal the Trump search warrant, Garland’s DOJ turned around to oppose the full release of the affidavit in support of the warrant. The judge, Bruce Reinhart, cited “intense public and historical interest in an unprecedented search” in ordering at least partial disclosure of the affidavit. Reinhart gave Garland’s DOJ a week to submit proposed redactions for info it wanted to keep secret, then appended his order to worry that the Justice Department could redact the document to death, making release “meaningless”:

I cannot say at this point that partial redactions will be so extensive that they will result in a meaningless disclosure, but I may ultimately reach that conclusion after hearing further from the government.

On the first weekend after the raid, official sources were telling everyone that a great part about using the Espionage Act in a Trump probe is that the law doesn’t require the involvement of classified materials. Now, we’re back to Trump not only taking secret documents, but super-secret “sensitive compartmented” ones. We’re going to hear this term, “Sensitive Compartmentalized Information” (capital S, capital C, capital I), a million times before this is over. As PBS reports:

FBI agents searched Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate… removing 11 sets of classified documents, with some not only marked top secret but also “sensitive compartmented information,” according to a receipt of what was taken… That is a special category meant to protect the nation’s most important secrets that if revealed publicly could cause “exceptionally grave” damage to U.S. interests.

In sum: Joe Biden didn’t know the raid was coming, Merrick Garland blamed Trump for the raid becoming public at all and took three days to take responsibility for ordering it, and Trump’s crime has moved from mishandling “nuclear documents” to keeping “Sensitive Compartmented Information,” whose possession by Trump poses “exceptionally grave” risk to the United States.

Something about all this stinks. On one hand, we’re in the same place we’ve been a hundred times in the Trump era, waiting for the big reveal. We were here before Michael Cohen’s testimony, before the Mueller report, before the Ukraine whistleblower letter, the Barr memo, and countless other expected bombshells.

On the other hand, the evidentiary hype train has been turned off early this time. The deadline for more news out of Reinhart’s court about what’s inside the affidavit is this Thursday, when Garland is supposed to submit his proposed redactions, yet the story is getting more coverage on Fox (Gutfield! incredibly surged to the top of late-night comedy ratings after the raid) than in mainstream press, which appears to be tiptoeing back from the case much as administration officials did in the first week.

Trump’s lawyers filed a rambling motion Monday to ask for a Special Master to review the documents before they’re released. A few notes about this motion. One, it started off noting that “Trump is the clear frontrunner in the 2024 Republican Presidential Primary and in the 2024 General Election, should he decide to run,” which not only gave an indication about Trump’s thinking but framed the issue as a political matter, essentially accusing the DOJ of raiding Trump’s home for political reasons. “The Government,” the motion read, “has refused to provide President Trump with any reason for the unprecedented general search of his home.” There’s a lot of crazy stuff in the Trump motion, but they’re not wrong about this.

Unless Garland and the Biden administration give a clear idea of what exactly precipitated the Trump raid — whether it involved Trump funneling the names of spies to Putin, leaving launch codes out on a pizza box, whatever — Trump is going to continue to hammer this issue. Unless the man is literally in manacles before November 2024, this mess will remain an open wound for Democrats. Even if the raid wasn’t politically motivated, it will for sure continue to look politically motivated, if the Justice Department doesn’t come up with a better explanation than the six or seven leaked so far. Yet everyone is acting like that question has been answered.

What gives? Even though stories like Russiagate and Ukrainegate had holes from the start, their underlying dramatic logic was consistent: Trump is guilty, and proof will be released any minute. The Mar-a-Lago raid by contrast feels like an accidental missile launch. Are we really being softened up for the DOJ ending this story without ever explaining what it had at the time of the raid? That would be bananas, and even crazier if the public accepted such an ending. This is way too big of a story to leave unexplained.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 25, 2022 6:09 am

Tabbi misses a bit. Initially for two days Garland denied the DoJ had anything to do with the raid, it was all the FBI. He lied like a lying liar. Then fessed that um, well actually, he ordered it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 25, 2022 6:31 am

Hahaha, Piers Morgan’s show has cratered on Fox too.

Piers Morgan Turns on Trump, Now He’s at Fox News (Newsmax, 24 Aug)

TV host Piers Morgan famously turned on former President Donald Trump in June, telling the Republican Party to “dump the Donald and run with The Ronald,” two months after Morgan joined conservative news outlet Fox News, where his show, “Piers Morgan Uncensored,” has dropped dramatically in viewership since its launch.

Morgan, who signed a $100 million deal with Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. for a new channel, TalkTV, drew more than 400,000 viewers in his first episode of “Uncensored,” an interview with Trump backed by Murdoch’s multimillion-dollar advertising campaign.

But the channel has since failed to draw notable viewership, with just 64,000 tuning in in late June, according to the Guardian.

Official viewing figures dipped to zero at some point during evening broadcasts, the report said.

Zero eh? Well I suppose you can’t get any worse than that. It’s fun that the Murdoch kiddies keep persisting with RINOs in hope that someone somewhere will watch them.

And speaking of Murdoch kiddies I am amused that Lachlan is suing Crickey for saying he’s a Trump supporter or something. Sorry mate you can’t be half pregnant in this current world: get on the Trump train kid.

Lachlan Murdoch sues Australian publication Crikey after it linked him to the US Capitol riots (24 Aug)

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 25, 2022 6:33 am

Truth was the first casualty of woke.

Dot
Dot
August 25, 2022 6:34 am

From the Laydee pages.

https://michelleteheux.medium.com/why-women-have-had-it-with-male-bullshit-c735db3e5ffb

Why Women Have Had It With Male Bullshit

Women have figured out that marriage is a bad deal for them

I can’t even

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 25, 2022 6:37 am

what happened to the Trump raid story?

We get updates daily from Jesse Watters, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham. We don’t bother with Pierced Morgan or Bent Baier.
If you aren’t watching Fox News – at least the A Team, you are probably getting MSM hogwash.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 25, 2022 6:41 am

Anchor Whatsays:
August 25, 2022 at 6:37 am

Yep

Cassie of Sydney
August 25, 2022 6:55 am

“And speaking of Murdoch kiddies I am amused that Lachlan is suing Crickey for saying he’s a Trump supporter or something. Sorry mate you can’t be half pregnant in this current world: get on the Trump train kid.”

No…no….no. Lachlan Murdoch is not suing Crikey because it wrote a glib piece saying “he’s a Trump supporter or something”. Crikey journalist (cough) Bernard Keane wrote and published a piece on Crikey which inferred that Lachlan and Rupert, as proprietors of Fox News, were behind the January 6 riot. That is quite likely defamation and quite frankly, I hope Lachlan takes Crikey to the cleaners. Lachlan is no progressive, he isn’t half pregnant about anything.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 25, 2022 6:57 am

LaborLotto: ACTU pushes for industry-wide wage claims.

Meanwhile in NSW the train drivers continue their “make it hot for the coalition” series of train slow-downs and stoppages on the timeworn pretext of “safety concerns”.

But over at The Australian there’s a kind of flush, all over the world today, all over the world you can hear the sound of Influencers influencing. Forget reporting anything of substance, the rise of the influencers must be documented.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 25, 2022 6:57 am

A Sydney nightclub has banned patrons from “staring at someone from afar” without prior “verbal consent” in a bid to make the venue a safe space.

What if you wear sunnies due to a medical condition?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 25, 2022 6:59 am

Ladypages!

From the piece:

They are no longer desperate to marry. They can earn their own money, buy property, bear and raise children and everything else without marrying a man.

A single (short) sentence separates that from this:

They have listened to the advice of burned women, and have realized that even if they do get married, they cannot depend on a man to support them.

Then, some advice delivered by this woman who has obviously yet to walk the walk:

Raising a couple of kids is intense for the first few years, but once all the kids are in school during the day, the intensity lessens.

This mashed-up conglomeration of catchphrases is then summed up by:

Yes, all the single guys milling around are problematic for society, but women shouldn’t have to martyr themselves.

This woman is said to be married, with a long-term hubby. The entire ‘article’ is shot to bits by Emma Lindsay, who penned that most excellent piece in the same ladypages, which was featured in this august journal of record the other day, and who said:

but these married women are the fucking problem. Anyone who buys into the argument that you need to change yourself to be worthy of love is the problem. Anyone who implicitly implies that the partnered state is superior to the un-partnered state is the problem. Anyone who wants to lecture single people while smugly slipping in “well, of course I personally am married” is the problem.

BAM, Ms Lindsay. Bam.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 25, 2022 7:00 am

The fat creep really is like a character out of the history man novel.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 25, 2022 7:18 am

A Sydney nightclub has banned patrons from “staring at someone from afar” without prior “verbal consent” in a bid to make the venue a safe space.

What if you wear sunnies due to a medical condition?

What if I wear my sunglasses at night
I wear my sunglasses at night
I wear my sunglasses at night so I can avoid the safety officer.

HT
HT
August 25, 2022 7:24 am

I see this morning that energy ministers are about implement a 7 Star Energy requirement for all new housing builds.
I moved into my new home, it is a new build and I have occupied it for nearly one year now. It was built to meet the 6 Star Energy requirements.
Achieving 6 Star rating cost me over $25K in “upgrades”, God only knows how much again will be added to the cost of building to a 7 Star standard. I also figure I’ll probably never recoup that $25K in energy savings (seems to cost me as much to run the new house as it did the old one). And many of the rules simply don’t make practical sense (double glazing on this window but not the one next to it, “Thermal Breaking” on that East facing door frame but one facing West is just fine and dandy). Light coloured roofs in Victoria attract a financial penalty but in NSW the opposite is true even where the weather is pretty much identical throughout say, Southern NSW and the Riverina. It’s an inconsistent shit show of BS computer modelling, unchallenged by reality that grossly inflates building costs beyond any hope of cost recovery.
These governments we have bang on about housing and how unaffordable homes are for first home buyers, and completely ignore the impost (and frankly often absurd) cost of regulation.
Maybe they should meet and cut the damn regulations >:( What a lovely change that would make.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 25, 2022 7:32 am

Lachlan Murdoch sues Australian publication Crikey after it linked him to the US Capitol riots

Is that supposed to be what Rowe is referencing in his cartoon?

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 25, 2022 7:36 am
Cassie of Sydney
August 25, 2022 7:37 am

Given the news last night that conservatives are not welcome at Luna Park, given the daily smearing, the daily libelling, the daily lying, the daily ridiculing and the daily silencing of conservatives by the progressive left, the endless demonisation of conservatives and anyone on the right (and that includes libertarians too) as “Nazis”, “far-right”, “waaacist”, “Islamophobic”, “transphobic” and all the other slurs the left throw at us so as to silence us, I do think it’s high time to hit the courts when and where we can. Lachlan Murdoch is doing the right thing with Crikey. I ask, where has ignoring the lies, the smears and the slurs gotten us? It’s pretty clear to me, no where. If Lachlan was Andrew Blot, Blot, being the perpetual wimp he is would no doubt shrug his shoulders and ignore the libelling, the lies and the smears, but ignoring it and turning the other cheek to it has only empowered them further. I say enough. We now have a situation where it’s likely that middle management at Luna Park has succumbed to the activism of far-left progressive activist scum, no doubt aided and abetted by their ABC and The Malcolm Guardian, activists who probably sent emails and tweets to fools at Luna Park management saying that by hosting CPAC, they’ll be hosting an event full of far-right, Nazi, waaacist, Islamophobes, anti-Voice men and women…and so what did the wimps at Luna Park do, they’ve reneged on an agreement.

I’ll be sending an email to Luna Park today, stating in black and white that I will never ever walk through their gates again. I will state that by cancelling CPAC they have showed contempt to ordinary Australian men and women who profess right-wing values and who and vote on the right side of politics. I still state in no uncertain terms that they have now politicised Luna Park, and once politicised there is no turning back, that they have made it clear that they don’t want conservatives walking through their gates and therefore they can’t possibly want the money of hard-working Australian mothers and fathers who vote for conservative and right-wing parties.

Remember, we can be activists too, with our pockets.

It’s time to stop turning the other cheek.

calli
calli
August 25, 2022 7:39 am

BASIX compliance nine years ago cost me around $30K. Most of it was garbage, particularly the idiotic window area rules.

There were a number of features that were added on top of that which made way more sense including attention to the prevailing (cold) winds, beefed up insulation and commercial grade glass, retractable awnings on the sunny side, extra wide eaves. The house is passive solar – I designed it that way – and it takes advantage of the site with 270 degree views from the main rooms. Yet, from the street, it looks no different from any suburban build. Our energy bills are a fraction of what we used to pay in the old, conventional house.

But I bet it wouldn’t pass the “star” test. Too many windows. 😀

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 25, 2022 7:44 am

Now, we’re back to Trump not only taking secret documents, but super-secret “sensitive compartmented” ones. We’re going to hear this term, “Sensitive Compartmentalized Information” (capital S, capital C, capital I), a million times before this is over.

Taibbi implies that the documents in Trump’s possession (and stored to a level of security they had approved) were actually classified at the time.

I have seen stories where they refer to documents ‘marked’ classified (which does not mean they are still classified) or that the documents were ‘classified’ in qualifying inverted commas.

Don’t know why they aren’t availing themselves of the ambiguous ‘were’ as in “removed documents that were classified” without mentioning when they were classified. All declassified documents were classified at some point.

What is striking though is that so many reporters are being so guarded, especially since they are only repeating what ‘persons familiar’ and ‘unnamed sources’ are telling them. If they were dudded by any of these with false info they just have to promise that next time they will ignore ‘unnamed sources’ and instead defer to other ‘unnamed sources’ – surely more reliable.

Struth
August 25, 2022 7:46 am

Who’s missing?

Who went for their boosters?

Struth
August 25, 2022 7:48 am

1000 extra deaths per week in the UK since jabbing started.
SO FAR.

You were told.

HT
HT
August 25, 2022 7:57 am

calli says:
August 25, 2022 at 7:39 am
…Our energy bills are a fraction of what we used to pay in the old, conventional house.

But I bet it wouldn’t pass the “star” test. Too many windows. ?

It’s windows what did me in to. I have big windows looking into adjacent bush land.

7 Star Rating will cost a motsa: no gas appliances, compulsory solar & battery, probably sneaking into triple glazed window territory and certainly double glazing on all windows and doors, thicker insulation blankets all round, thermally broken (whatever that damn means) on every penetration etc etc.

My place was $25K to get to 6 Star, and it didn’t start its journey to 6 Star from zero, more likely 5.3 to 6.

Good luck first home buyers. You voted these zealots in!

JC
JC
August 25, 2022 7:58 am

Cassie

Thanks for clarifying what exactly is going on with the Lachlan / Crikey lawsuit.

In an earlier comment Uncle Fester had contorted and dissembled the story to fit his delusions about Lachlan and suit. That’s because he’s a delusional fucking idiot.

JC
JC
August 25, 2022 8:01 am

Struth says:
August 25, 2022 at 7:48 am
1000 extra deaths per week in the UK since jabbing started.
SO FAR.

You were told.

Ummm okay, what do you think is causing that Stuth? Is it possible the excess deaths are people who haven’t vaxed?

Analysis please.
Go!

Struth
August 25, 2022 8:03 am

The f..ck heads on this blog like to talk as if it is a sane environment here and scoff at other blogs.
Yet indolent and many others come here with overwhelming evidence about the jab’s lethality again and again, and yet is totally ignored, many chosing instead to rabbit on about the theatre of the moment being provided, such as the voice to parliament.
As the government want you to.
As if the constitution is still being adhered to and voting is uncorrupted.
Delusion.
Purposeful, intended, stubbornly upheld delusion.
Living the lie because the truth is horrifying …….so you will never confront it.
Living a lie is at the heart of evil and communism and tyranny require you to do so.
And you speak of other blogs!
The arrogance of the deluded, the lost compliant failures, that in truth they are, willing to sign up to the Nazi party and live in an apartheid system are hated by many.
I’m busy working but at the cane transloader and other places I get to talk and meet with many of the unjabbed.
One, who in total agreeance with me, and unable to return to Australia from Asia for two years because he was unjabbed….is laughing at the prospect of the compliant dying off, such is the hatred toward their behaviour held by many who did not comply.
Since my son got jabbed and many others I love, I can’t quite be so cold.
But many can.
And you must admit, they have every right.
Behaviour like getting a good Nazi pass and going on a European holiday while nurses and millions lost everything to fight it.
Will notafan’s demise cause this man I was talking to, a good man, any loss of sleep?
Not a wink.

calli
calli
August 25, 2022 8:04 am

Bushland interface properties are also subject to BAL ratings on top of the energy efficiency requirements.

So…materials have to be rated “fireproof”. Good luck with that. My kids have had to modify a house at great expense, including a metal front door. Too bad about all the other timber components in the build. They, apparently, don’t count.

It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so stupid and malignant. And expensive.

Struth
August 25, 2022 8:09 am

Is it possible the excess deaths are people who haven’t vaxed?

No.
The overall death rates did not rise UNTIL they started jabbing people.
But you won’t allow yourself to see it.
It’s as plain as the nose on your face to those not lost to self selusion.
You see, you’ve always thought highly of yourself JC, thought you were a smart guy, but now, we see you for what you are.
A coward.
A sheep.
And not very bright.

You pontificated a few years ago that Bill Gates was a great bloke (he’s in truth, the man with a few others who murdered you….tick tick tick).
You thought trading with China was a good idea, because you didn’t care HOW they were able to be so cheap, never cared a second about the globalist corruption that allowed it to be so, just that they were cheap……..so much wrongology, but I haven’t got the time to point it all out.
Where’s the heavily boosted choo choo?

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 25, 2022 8:15 am

Macron does some shaping.
Pretty sure Your Sacrifice Will Ensure Our Victory won’t prove popular.

Dot
Dot
August 25, 2022 8:16 am

Check out a song by Brit industrial music pioneer Al Jorgensen, struth.

It’s called “I’m not dead yet”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 25, 2022 8:19 am

It was built to meet the 6 Star Energy requirements.
Achieving 6 Star rating cost me over $25K in “upgrades”

When we move to 7 star Energy Requirements houses will be a lot simpler and cheaper.

For example they won’t have a garage.
California Bans Anyone Making Less Than $100,000 From Buying New Cars (24 Aug)

And they won’t need a bathroom.
Green Party Official Tells Germans To Use Washcloths Instead Of Taking Showers (24 Aug)

Nor a kitchen.
Sierra Club Pushes EPA to Ban Natural Gas Stoves (24 Aug)

Perhaps builders should convert to making tents instead. Get in before the rush.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 25, 2022 8:19 am

Daytime Sky continuing to report the Trump raid and doco haul along US Admin/MSM lines.
The Fox News A team starts with Watters at 9am. Then we hear what’s really happening.

Struth
August 25, 2022 8:20 am

Check out a song by Brit industrial music pioneer Al Jorgensen, struth.

It’s called “I’m not dead yet”.

The measure of success.
You lasted a year….well with you, not even that.
No delusion here.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 25, 2022 8:20 am

The pwophet of doom has awived!
Only 8-38 months left before we die and only [5] days left to save the Daily Exposé.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 25, 2022 8:23 am

Prophet of Doom?
Just check Jo Nova today.
JC will let us know when to start shorting everything.

Struth
August 25, 2022 8:26 am

And by the way, I’m busy working because the jabbed are always sick…(the ones that haven’t died yet) and I find myself in a workplace of the reliable unjabbed….I almost think we’d be in the majority of men.

The people living the lie keep getting themselves tested, staying home and are useless to all.
Mental sickness abounds on a grand scale.

Crossie
Crossie
August 25, 2022 8:29 am

Women have figured out that marriage is a bad deal for them

I wonder if these are the same women who were never married or kept making bad choices. Maybe it’s just them.

2dogs
August 25, 2022 8:30 am

Now that the dangers of the vax have been exposed, the corporate media has decided to blame Trump for it.

How convenient.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 25, 2022 8:31 am

Failing upwards

A city principal convicted of car insurance fraud kept her employment with the Department of Education – and even got a fat raise – despite what school investigators called her “pattern of dishonesty.”

The DOE gave Oneatha Swinton, the former acting principal of Port Richmond High school in Staten Island, a sweetheart deal to stay on despite the criminal rap along with findings that she improperly funneled $100,000 in school funds to a vendor, and “failed to safeguard” 600 DOE computers, printers and laptops which vanished under her watch.

Instead of terminating Swinton, 43, as recommended by the Special Commissioner of Investigation for city schools, the DOE gave her an unspecified place in its Office of Safety and Youth Development with a $187,000 salary plus health and pension benefits — $25,000 more than she made when arrested in 2018 for insurance fraud. Officials refused to give a title or description of her new gig.

Swinton even found the time to launch her own splashy fashion brand, ObyDezign, but took down the website after being contacted by The Post.

Her good fortune comes as Chancellor David Banks has vowed to sweep away needless bureaucrats and plow more money into cash-starved schools.

Parent leaders are dumbfounded.

“Why would you continue to A) trust her and B) put her in charge of any sort of student development? Who does she know?” asked Ellen McHugh, co-president of the Citywide Council on Special Education.

The Post revealed Swinton’s insurance scam in November 2017. Seven months later the DOE removed her to a disciplinary “rubber room.” Originally charged with six felony counts, she pleaded guilty in December 2018 to registering two Lexus SUVs in Pennsylvania to avoid New York’s high insurance rates. She was sentenced to three years’ probation and ordered to pay $6,200 in restitution plus an $800 fine.

Swinton joined Port Richmond as its interim principal in June 2017, after serving as principal at John Jay School for Law in Brooklyn since 2010.

The SCI found that Swinton, at John Jay, paid a total $100,000 in split payments — which was against purchasing rules — to Tanya John, a DOE vendor and ex-principal in the Bronx, according to an SCI report released to The Post under the Freedom of Information Law. The money was reportedly spent on “Saturday retreats” and overnight college trips, investigators say.

It was John’s East Stroudsburg, PA, home that Swinton fraudulently listed on her driver’s license and registration, the Pennsylvania Attorney General charged.

The SCI also found Swinton failed to inventory more than 600 DOE computers, laptops and printers during her tenure at John Jay HS. All the devices went missing.

Swinton’s actions show a principal’s disregard for DOE rules and procedures and demonstrate a pattern of dishonesty,” Special Commissioner Anastasia Coleman wrote in her January 2020 report to then-Chancellor Carranza, recommending her dismissal.

Officials would not explain why Swinton — who led an anti-police march through the halls of John Jay and angered some Port Richmond parents by kicking cops out of the Staten Island school – was placed in an office that serves as a liaison with the NYPD.

A source said Swinton attended a Zoom training session last November, speaking little but making a big impression with her “crazy hat.”

Swinton posts photos of herself in large, brightly colored hats on her Instagram page.

“I am an ever evolving creative being open to learning and growing from everything around me,” she declared in a July 8 post.

“All this, and they reward her? Unbelievable,” said Annette Renaud, a former PTA president at John Jay HS. “It’s corrupt.”

“’It’s people in power saying ‘rules for thee but not for me,’” said Joann Nellis, Port Richmond’s former PTA president.

Swinton did not respond to requests for comment.

Struth
August 25, 2022 8:32 am

The pwophet of doom has awived!
Only 8-38 months left before we die and only [5] days left to save the Daily Exposé.

And as I said above, there are many who won’t lose a wink of sleep.

You, in particular, deserve all that is coming to you.

There is no prophecy.
There are hard facts.
The jabbed are dying in ever increasing numbers.
You were warned.
You scoffed.
You may have caused others to take the jab as you mocked the very real evidence being provided.
You will be no great loss.
You will gpo to your grave the shallow, useless, unprincipled coward you have always been.
And you really actually encouraged others to do so, with your cowardly mocking of what has now been proven to be the truth.

You’re on the wrong side of history, sport.

Crossie
Crossie
August 25, 2022 8:33 am

Anchor What says:
August 25, 2022 at 6:37 am
what happened to the Trump raid story?

We get updates daily from Jesse Watters, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham. We don’t bother with Pierced Morgan or Bent Baier.
If you aren’t watching Fox News – at least the A Team, you are probably getting MSM hogwash.

Don’t bother with Neil Cavuto either, even worse than Bent Baier.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 25, 2022 8:37 am

Incident: Ethiopian B738 at Addis Ababa on Aug 15th 2022, pilots asleep

An Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737-800, registration ET-AOB performing flight ET-343 from Khartoum (Sudan) to Addis Ababa (Ethiopia), was enroute at FL370 when the pilots fell asleep. The aircraft continued past the top of descent maintaining FL370 and continued along the FMC route set up for an approach to runway 25L without descending however. ATC tried to contact the crew numerous times without success. After overflying runway 25L at FL370 the autopilot disconnected, the disconnect wailer woke the crew up who then maneouvered the aircraft for a safe landing on runway 25L about 25 minutes after overflying the runway at FL370.

Tom
Tom
August 25, 2022 8:39 am

I will state that by cancelling CPAC they have showed contempt to ordinary Australian men and women who profess right-wing values and who and vote on the right side of politics. I still state in no uncertain terms that they have now politicised Luna Park, and once politicised there is no turning back…

The idiots who run some small businesses (like Luna Park) are too stupid to have figured out that, when you cave in to the radical left, you alienate the vast middle class who, for example, are Luna Park’s bread and butter.

It doesn’t take an MBA to figure out what not to do — which Luna Park has just done it.

Once you align yourself with radicals, you’re shooing families away — an exceptionally stupid decision for an amusement park business like Luna Park (and Disney for that matter).

calli
calli
August 25, 2022 8:44 am

I imagine the management of Luna Park thought turning away a conservative conference a better option than dealing with the hordes of rent-a-crowd crazies that would descend on the place.

The spectre of destruction and cleanup was probably too much for them.

Crossie
Crossie
August 25, 2022 8:44 am

HT says:
August 25, 2022 at 7:24 am
I see this morning that energy ministers are about implement a 7 Star Energy requirement for all new housing builds.
I moved into my new home, it is a new build and I have occupied it for nearly one year now. It was built to meet the 6 Star Energy requirements.
Achieving 6 Star rating cost me over $25K in “upgrades”, God only knows how much again will be added to the cost of building to a 7 Star standard.

“Energy efficiency” requires buying what the politicians’ mates are selling in the form of renewables etc. They need to take care of the mates. Relaxing building codes so the foundations may not be up to scratch, see the Leaning Tower of Opal, is just cutting red tape and not really about looking after the other mates, the developers.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 25, 2022 8:45 am

Let’s think about life until a couple of generations ago. A woman had to get married. Supporting herself was next to impossible, so she needed to attract a man to survive.
And because there were very few roles other than marriage and motherhood possible, that’s how most women spent their lives. Men earned money, women took care of the household and children.

And it was all just a diabolical plot, nothing to do with millenia of evolution testing countless other life strategies yet still discovering the above was optimal?

calli
calli
August 25, 2022 8:47 am

It’s like venues banning stags and hens. This time the stags and hens are burning to get in and trash the place because normal people are using it.

Lot’s house in Sodom.

This is where we are.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 25, 2022 8:49 am

‘Staggering’: Qantas posts $1.86bn loss
Robyn Ironside
Aviation Writer
@ironsider
5 minutes ago August 25, 2022
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Qantas has posted its third consecutive loss of the Covid-19 pandemic, with a $1.86bn underlying loss for the 2022 financial year, $85m worse than the previous year.

Chief executive Alan Joyce said the result took the group’s total statutory losses before tax throughout the pandemic to nearly $7bn, and total revenue losses to $25bn.

“These figures are staggering and getting through to the other side has obviously been tough,” he said.

Financial woes aside, the operational issues being experienced by the airline in recent months have led to daily management meetings to review performance and new incentives for travellers.

Some improvement was already apparent with the airline’s on-time performance in August averaging 66 per cent, up from 52 per cent the previous month.

Mr Joyce has previously suggested the airline would return to profit in 2023, on the back of strong demand for air travel.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 25, 2022 8:50 am

And from the UK:

A group of bowling club volunteers who set up a sting to catch young vandals on CCTV have been told off by police – for filming the youths without permission.

Mafia don’t allow anyone else on their turf…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 25, 2022 8:53 am

9News Melbourne
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A woman who allegedly struck and killed a Sunshine West father while on four counts of bail has been released – again.

Alisha Fagan will be free to go shopping and bushwalking at a “healing centre” after her tearful appearance before a magistrate. @lanamurphy #9News

Michael Smith News. A “Residential rehabilitation centre for First Nations People.” F.M.S.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 25, 2022 8:58 am

Exactly the same pattern as here.

Its almost like democracy is a farce.

https://thecritic.co.uk/immigration-and-consent/

Are British governments sincere in their repeated promises to restrict immigration, but entirely incompetent in delivering upon those promises? Whilst incompetence does seem to be a routine feature of modern British governance, the alternative explanation seems more likely: that governments knew that public support wasn’t there for what had become a consensus in Westminster, and so they lied again and again whilst pursuing a policy which is transforming Britain.

Between elections, in today’s clamour for further increases in immigration we are told that it is essential for economic growth. If that’s so obviously the case, why has this argument so rarely been made by a current or prospective Prime Minister at the time of a general election? Then again, if it is the case: why have the past decades of unprecedented immigration coincided with a near-collapse of economic growth? Why haven’t the past 20 years of half a million or more foreign arrivals every year already taken us on the path to productivity and prosperity? Is the party line really that one more heave ought to do it? Perhaps an open, honest conversation with the public — just for once — might subject these claims to the scrutiny they clearly deserve.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 25, 2022 9:00 am

Mental sickness abounds on a grand scale.

Quite so.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 25, 2022 9:01 am

Some enchanted evening, you may see a stranger
You may see a stranger across a crowded room,
An’ somehow you know, you know even then,
That somewhere you’ll see her again and again!

Not so fast, buddy! A Sydney nightclub (reportedly) is going to put a stop to people staring, even at a distance, across a crowded room.
It’s not just humour that the wokesters have killed, now it’s Romance, among many other things.
I suspect that their room might be less crowded if the implement this.

Indolent
Indolent
August 25, 2022 9:02 am

These governments we have bang on about housing and how unaffordable homes are for first home buyers, and completely ignore the impost (and frankly often absurd) cost of regulation.
Maybe they should meet and cut the damn regulations >:( What a lovely change that would make.

It’s completely deliberate. In England they’re making energy regulations which would be so expensive to implement that solid old buildings would have to be demolished. All part of the great reset. Or should I say great theft?

Roger
Roger
August 25, 2022 9:04 am

LaborLotto: ACTU pushes for industry-wide wage claims.

While the immigration lobby is pushing for easier pathways to permanent residency for 100 000 failed asylum seekers who haven’t returned home, international students and PI agricultural workers.

Somehow the unions don’t see the connection between higher low-skilled immigration and lower wages.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 25, 2022 9:04 am

Its almost like democracy is a farce.
As Branco’s cartoon today illustrates, it’s not that the Trump voters are a threat to Democracy, it’s that Democracy is a threat to the Demrats.

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