Open Thread – Weekend 27 Aug 2022


Two Men by the Sea, Casper David Friedrich, 1817

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Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 27, 2022 12:00 am
Rabz
August 27, 2022 12:02 am
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 27, 2022 12:03 am

This thread dedicated to Rob Hirst.

Midnight Oil drummer, and one of the greatest rich communists of our time.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 27, 2022 12:16 am

As opposed to Peter Gifford, who Wiki records as having left the Oils due to contrasting views with the One who Promised to Change Everything once in Power.

PG’s interests post-Oils seemed staunchly capitalist.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 27, 2022 12:49 am

According to Midnight Oil:

“Our shoreline was never invaded, our country was never in flames”

The screeching fucking commie hypocrite says it like it’s a bad thing. Get fucked you bald piece of shit.

rickw
rickw
August 27, 2022 1:11 am

Does the bloke on the right in the painting have a rake in his hand?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 27, 2022 1:23 am

The question for the weekend is why does munster the mong have a basement full of rakes?

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
August 27, 2022 1:36 am

Evening folks
Had drinks with bloke, $140 for a PCR test to clear him for flying out to Thailand
Departure tax on dissenters

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
August 27, 2022 1:39 am

ie, unjabbed only

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2022 2:59 am

Johanna from the dead fred:-

As a young gel I interacted in various ways with top bands like Cold Chisel and Midnight Oil, and Radio Birdman and The Saints.

Groupie?
🙂
You really shouldn’t be having a go at Lizzie for ‘toppering’ after that.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 27, 2022 3:58 am

America’s immigration crisis laid bare: DailyMail.com’s in-depth analysis reveals the impact of 4.9 MILLION illegal border crossings since Biden took office

Daily Mail

Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:07 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
August 27, 2022 4:07 am

B-21 bombers anyone? Just out in the Oz:

Days after a senior American defence chief confirmed the US would consider selling its in-­development B-21 bomber to Australia, Mr Marles said the in-development stealth aircraft were also being examined to give the ADF the ability to hold adversaries at bay over long distances.

Interesting…short on detail but big on concept.

Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 4:15 am
miltonf
miltonf
August 27, 2022 5:51 am

The screeching fucking commie hypocrite says it like it’s a bad thing. Get fucked you bald piece of shit.

yes a repulsive creature. Barker-Politics at ANU-Law at UNSW (never practiced afaik).

A very nasty dilettante.

miltonf
miltonf
August 27, 2022 5:55 am

interacted in various ways

🙂

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 27, 2022 6:00 am

the student loan debacle has torched those who worked hard and paid their debt to those who work hard and pay their taxes

miltonf
miltonf
August 27, 2022 6:05 am

Also serves to debase the currency and destroy ordinary people’s wealth which is their aim.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 27, 2022 6:20 am

Also serves to debase the currency and destroy ordinary people’s wealth which is their aim.

Certainly seems to be a feature not a bug.

Calls Between Energy Traders, UK Grid Operator Reveal Power Crisis Might Be Far Worse Than Expected (27 Aug)

Why are energy traders so concerned about grid instabilities in the months ahead? Well, UK power prices for winter are going parabolic at about £1,000 per megawatt hour, up from £242 in June.

Govt Energy Regulator Confirms Britons Will Be Hammered with 80 Per Cent Bill Hike (26 Aug)

UK residents will see an 80 per cent increase in their annual household energy bills, the country’s energy regulator announced Friday, following a record 54 per cent spike in April. That will bring costs for the average customer from 1,971 pounds ($2,332) a year to 3,549 pounds.

Even the trade unions, who’re complicit in this stuff, are now saying that riots may occur this winter. And when a trade unionist says this sort of thing it’s messaging: that they’ll be in the front lines of the riot.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 27, 2022 6:26 am

How are things in Maricopa?
No good. The tainted election has been followed by a tainted audit.
We recall Brett Baier calling Arizona early for Biden, whose winning margin was about 10,000 votes. Laura Ingraham expressed concern about that call on the spot, and it’s now revealed that there were hundreds of thousands of dodgy ballots.

calli
calli
August 27, 2022 6:34 am

Love the Friedrich! He does the most beautiful landscapes and dead trees and ruins. And the sky, so luminous and overpowering. I few weeks ago I linked to his “Wanderer” – sometimes trying to make sense of modern life (Ukraine/Russia in that instance) is like looking into a sea of fog.

Had to smile at the fisticuffs last night. If we’re “toppering” I can name drop a few dreary celebs I’ve “interacted” with. Well, their gardens anyway. None of them left me particularly star struck. And a genuine SU medalist. An old pal. Never really noticed his accent, only his kindness and sense of humour.

You live long enough you realise that the old “six degrees of separation” really is just two or three, particularly in a small place like Australia.

And that’s enough anecdotes from me.

calli
calli
August 27, 2022 6:40 am

the student loan debacle has torched those who worked hard and paid their debt to those who work hard and pay their taxes

Why bother? People who scrimp and scrape to send their children to college don’t matter.

The US university system is a joke. Huge loans for useless degrees. Something had to pop the bubble. At least here students can acquire their useless degrees at bargain basement prices.

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2022 6:41 am

When you step away from the progressive narrative
walid, from hero to zero

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 27, 2022 6:43 am

Australian MSM continues to display its ignorance and/or complicity by blathering on about the FBI finding “classified documents” at Trump’s home.

miltonf
miltonf
August 27, 2022 6:45 am

This thread dedicated to Rob Hirst.

Midnight Oil drummer, and one of the greatest rich communists of our time.

Didn’t he have a column in the Bulletin during its twilight years?

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 27, 2022 6:49 am

The trade unions may have been complicit in the UK, but in NSW they were ardently opposed to the privatisation of the electricity system. The Iemma government started the process despite that opposition, but got rolled by ALP conference in a big way.

miltonf
miltonf
August 27, 2022 6:50 am

The US university system is a joke.

Sure seems that way. I read so many bios of the vile, useless, parasitic politicians who graduated summa cum laude in political ‘science’

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2022 6:52 am
Petros
Petros
August 27, 2022 6:52 am

The public need to listen to the scientists.
She says this in the last line of this article about cane toads and death adders on Magnetic Island. Just typical of the arrogance of so-called scientists these days.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 27, 2022 6:55 am

The Iemma government started the process despite that opposition, but got rolled by ALP conference in a big way.

Iemma knew this mess was going to happen, same as we did.
So he wanted business to take the fall, not the ALP.
Business is now taking the fall, and Labor will renationalize after the dust has settled.
More in sorrow than in anger, of course.

calli
calli
August 27, 2022 6:59 am

Petros, there was another cane toad article from earlier this year.

Apparently they can’t be swiped with a golf club any more. If you’re caught, you’re fined. I guess that rules out a misting with diluted Dettol too.

I wonder what the authorities’ position is on squishing snails and slugs?

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2022 7:02 am

Why are energy traders so concerned about grid instabilities in the months ahead? Well, UK power prices for winter are going parabolic at about £1,000 per megawatt hour, up from £242 in June

Somebody is making money.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2022 7:05 am

The trade unions may have been complicit in the UK, but in NSW they were ardently opposed to the privatisation of the electricity system.

Yes. Out of concern for consumers. Hint: ownership of assets isn’t the issue.

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2022 7:11 am

Appears Plibisek and Shorten announced robodebt in 2011 and now Elbow is royal commissioning?
Really dumb implementation, chasing ‘debts’ that were several years old.
Two of my children were studying and working part-time then gained full time employment got caught up.
They reported earnings correctly at the time but because they moved to full time employment part way through the financial year, the ATO records made it look like they were overpaid and Centrelink either didn’t bother to check their own reporting records or could no longer access them.
In those circumstances alleged debts should not have been pursued.
A debacle.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
August 27, 2022 7:11 am

Weekend mirth from Westprint.

Friday Funnies

When one door closes and another door opens, you are probably in prison.
To me, “drink responsibly” means don’t spill it.
Age 60 might be the new 40, but 9:00 pm is the new midnight.
It’s the start of a brand-new day, and I’m off like a herd of turtles.
The older I get, the earlier it gets late.
When I say, “The other day,” I could be referring to any time between yesterday and 15 years ago.
I remember being able to get up without making sound effects.
I had my patience tested. I’m negative.
Remember, if you lose a sock in the dryer, it comes back as a Tupperware lid that doesn’t fit any of your containers.
If you’re sitting in public and a stranger takes the seat next to you, just stare straight ahead and say, “Did you bring the money?”
When you ask me what I am doing today, and I say “nothing,” it does not mean I am free. It means I am doing nothing.
I finally got eight hours of sleep. It took me three days, but whatever.
I run like the winded.
I hate when a couple argues in public, and I missed the beginning and don’t know whose side I’m on.
When someone asks what I did over the weekend, I squint and ask, “Why, what did you hear?”
When you do squats, are your knees supposed to sound like a goat chewing on an aluminium can stuffed with celery?
I don’t mean to interrupt people. I just randomly remember things and get really excited.
When I ask for directions, please don’t use words like “east.”
Don’t bother walking a mile in my shoes. That would be boring. Spend 30 seconds in my head. That’ll freak you right out.
Sometimes, someone unexpected comes into your life out of nowhere, makes your heart race, and changes you forever. We call those people cops.
My luck is like a bald guy who just won a comb.

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2022 7:15 am

It’s a wealth transfer from the most, to the very few.
Well done, green morons.

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2022 7:17 am

What happens if you squash baby cane toads walking in your garden?

calli
calli
August 27, 2022 7:19 am

Off to the lockholes for you, Rosie!

Cane toads are people too.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 7:20 am

https://medium.com/@suburbanfeminist/dear-horny-men-stop-staring-at-my-ass-4ee70d71aa44

Don’t worry darling, you’re 40 now, you’ll be invisible soon.

All of those nasty incels won’t eye rape you any more.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 7:25 am

Any man that still wants to serve their king and country now is nuts.

The ADF is run by political idiots that don’t want to win wars. Men are treated like utter shit in society and we’ve had two years of fascism.

When the pictures of the Queen doing a Nazi salute come out (she was a kid but the whole thing is gross), yeah…*

*Mark Felton covered this the other day. US intelligence got them and the Brit’s stole them back…old mate got a job for life as “keeper of the Queens portraits” and dodged espionage charges.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 7:26 am

Remind me to play Forgotten Years at volume 11 on “Invasion Day”.

Petros
Petros
August 27, 2022 7:32 am

It is illegal to inhumanely kill animals, apparently, according to that ABC article. How does that sit with fly-spray, rat traps, roadkill, wind turbines, wild dog baiting etc?

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 7:34 am

As a young gel I interacted in various ways with top bands like Cold Chisel and Midnight Oil, and Radio Birdman and The Saints.

1. I trolled the guitarist from Smash Mouth on a meme video on YT. He got the joke later and thought it was gold.
2. My mates got into a fight with ANU security for vandalising their own pano van after a gig.
3. I once was a roadie for very heavy metal bands. They’re actually straight laced besides booze and the Satan stuff is kayfabe or ironic. If anything it’s dumb left wing talking points for atheists.
4. I met Jessica Campbell. I am proud to say I acted normal. I said hello, did a double take, we both smiled and nodded. I went back to reading my novel and didn’t annoy her.

I have lived a very interesting life. I also have a collection of crumpets that look like Elvis.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 7:36 am

What happens if you squash baby cane toads walking in your garden?

A Tigers fan dies and a Redcliffe Dolphins fan is born.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 27, 2022 7:40 am

Had to smile at the fisticuffs last night. If we’re “toppering” I can name drop a few dreary celebs I’ve “interacted” with. Well, their gardens anyway. None of them left me particularly star struck. And a genuine SU medalist. An old pal. Never really noticed his accent, only his kindness and sense of humour.

I didn’t laugh, Calli, I was disgusted and I still am.

I could name drop to high heaven if I was so inclined but I do not name drop here.
I have had a long and what would be for many people a quite varied set of life experiences.
I have spoken about these experiences, and about people who are my relatives and sometimes their genuine academic achievements as well as their problems. And occasionally of my own ventures into academia.
Always with some point to make.
My extremely academically brilliant sister was a trail blazer for women and those not born with the proverbial silver spoon.
I hope Duk has a happy life. I’d hate him to remain so bitter.
Which is what I hope for all who come here.

Vicki
Vicki
August 27, 2022 7:41 am

Sometimes I feel I am living in an alternate universe – such is the weirdness of the days of our lives in recent times.

Yesterday I mentioned the distress of finding our chicken coop had been raided by a fox and the carnage of feathers testified to what had happened. Well folks – this morning we woke to that bloody fox lying in the sun on the doormat outside the french doors off our lounge room! In case you think this is evidence of me losing my grip – I have sent a photograph to Lizzie & she can affirm it! It didn’t initially see me when I photographed it – but even when it did – it just got to its feet & fixed me with its baleful stare!

Husband was about to get the gun, but we knew that it was doubtful if it would be either safe or successful due to the angle & proximity to the house. He did, however, load it & sent off a shot when it finally fled out of the grounds.

It has probably observed our intermittent absence & was waiting for the arrival of the beautiful red rumpled parrots that come every day to graze on the roots in our lawn. I found a stack of feathers of one in the garden as well as the chookyard carnage.

Although I believe we can make our chook run foxproof, we do let them freerange when we are here – so we have a real problem with a fox which is bold enough to sun itself on our doormat!

We have tried a baited wire cage in past years. But it never works. Husband will have the gun ready – but they are very difficult to wing. Any suggestions from the farmers on this blog, please?

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 7:47 am

A Tigers fan dies and a Redcliffe Dolphins fan is born.

LOL

I didn’t laugh, Calli, I was disgusted and I still am.

Damn I’m good.

calli
calli
August 27, 2022 7:48 am

I smiled. And that smile was rueful, thinking of some of the “don’t you know who I am?” types I have met along the way.

There’s a lot of silliness in the world, including my own.

Dot’s Elvis crumpet collection sure beats etchings. The perfect lure for unsuspecting females.

Vicki
Vicki
August 27, 2022 7:48 am

Petrol – I didn’t see your post before I posted above. Very relevant. But a gunshot is humane. I have liked baits – although no other way in a mice plague.

Vicki
Vicki
August 27, 2022 7:52 am

Sorry – Petros!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 27, 2022 8:00 am

I am going to my dance class now for some enjoyment with real people.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 27, 2022 8:01 am

To Add to Mak’s Friday Funnies – Weekend Lighthearted

Bookseller conducting a market survey asked a woman: “Which book has helped you most in your life?”

The woman replied, “My husband’s cheque book!!”

******
A prospective husband in a book store: “Do you have a book called ‘Husband – the Master of the House?’”

Sales girl: “Sir, fiction and comics are on the 1st floor!”

******
Someone asked an old man: “Even after 70 years, you still call your wife – darling, honey, luv. What’s the secret?”

Old man: “I forgot her name and I’m scared to ask her.”

******
Pharmacist to customer: “Sir, please understand, to buy an anti-depression pill you need a proper prescription …

Simply showing marriage certificate and wife’s picture is not enough!”

******
For MEN…..and WOMEN with a bit of humour ??

A man was granted two wishes by God.

He asked for the best drink & the best woman ever.

Next moment he got mineral water & Mother Teresa.

******
There are 3 kinds of men in this world.

Some remain single and make wonders happen.

Some have girlfriends and see wonders happen.

The rest get married and wonder what happened!

******
Wives are magicians. They can change anything into an argument.

******
Why do women live a Better, Longer & Peaceful Life, compared to men?

A very INTELLIGENT student replied: “Because Women don’t have a wife!”

******
COOL MESSAGE BY A WIFE: Dear Mother-in-law, Don’t teach me how to handle my children. I am living with one of yours and he needs a lot of improvement!?

******
When a married man says, I WILL THINK ABOUT IT – what he really means is that he doesn’t know his wife’s opinion yet.

******
A lady says to her doctor: “My husband has a habit of talking in his sleep! What should I give him to cure it?”

The doctor replies: “Give him an opportunity to speak when he’s awake! “

calli
calli
August 27, 2022 8:01 am

And I am going to clean the oven.

Want to swap? 😀

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 8:02 am

The Shih Tzu font and centre, is the alpha (seeing an audience of commoners) and also makes the Royals wholesome here.

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Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 8:02 am

George V was a meme lord.

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Was the dog meant to be Florence Nightingale?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 27, 2022 8:03 am

Calli, I am not a ‘don’t you know who I am’ type. I am nobody, and happy to be so.
That is an unfair twist and unworthy of someone who claims to be more Christian than most.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 27, 2022 8:04 am

Watch This Severe Electric Car Fire And Explosion At A Charging Station

Electric vehicle fires are not a common thing, so let’s take a look at this rare example.

Once the flames appeared, it was clear that the other EVs would not survive either.

More than 40 firefighters and 8 fire trucks were involved at the site, and thanks to quick action, they managed to put out the fire.

According to some scarce reports, five EVs were affected by the incident (4 severely).

The cause might have something to do with the charging points. Due to the fire, the local government closed 48 charging stations (700 stands), or a sixth of all, to make sure everything is safe.

Regardless of how it happened, this is why EVs ought not be allowed in underground parking, or charged inside a building.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 27, 2022 8:05 am
Petros
Petros
August 27, 2022 8:05 am

Get a fox whistle and practice. They work. Shame you scared him off the front verandah as he will be wary now.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 27, 2022 8:06 am

I am just once more disappointed in this place and personally upset deeply by it.

It has such promise but then a streak of nastiness enters and there is a pile on.

I shall have to control my leadfoot on the sporty beamer this morning, because I am very angry.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 8:08 am

This really warms the cockles of my flinty heart.

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Behold the true King holding an audience with the people of Britain.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 27, 2022 8:17 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
August 27, 2022 at 8:06 am
I am just once more disappointed in this place and personally upset deeply by it.

It has such promise but then a streak of nastiness enters and there is a pile on.

I shall have to control my leadfoot on the sporty beamer this morning, because I am very angry.

Lizzie,

relax and enjoy your dance class – watching Monty Python Truth Series have reach Episode 5 – The Life of Brian and as he says

Eric Idle – “Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life”

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
August 27, 2022 8:18 am

Petros, there was another cane toad article from earlier this year.

Apparently they can’t be swiped with a golf club any more. If you’re caught, you’re fined. I guess that rules out a misting with diluted Dettol too.

I wonder what the authorities’ position is on squishing snails and slugs?

Where is the next Cam Smith going to come from if we can’t practise with Cane Toads. Golf balls cost money, Cane Toads are free!

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 27, 2022 8:19 am

Days after a senior American defence chief confirmed the US would consider selling its in-­development B-21 bomber to Australia, Mr Marles said the in-development stealth aircraft were also being examined to give the ADF the ability to hold adversaries at bay over long distances.

Not even due in the US for another 5 years … which means 10.

Should be right in time for next years Taiwan away game.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 27, 2022 8:19 am

The Trump Search Warrant Affidavit has been released

Here it is – with redactions

Techno Fog
6 hr ago
The DOJ just released the affidavit submitted in support of the search warrant of former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence.

Here it is for download.

Well Summarised by

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/26/a-review-of-the-big-picture-and-stakeholder-interests-within-fbi-affidavit-justifying-raid-on-trump/

Mater
August 27, 2022 8:22 am

Any suggestions from the farmers on this blog, please?

Vicki,
Whilst I prefer to hang them from my fence, one of my neighbours successfully employs a flashing light to keep them away from his lambs.

He uses what is likely a stolen roadworks light, but this site might be worth a look.

https://www.foxlightsaustralia.com.au/

BTW, I have trapped them in a wire crate type, but you end up shooting the vicious little bastards anyway (while trying not to damage the trap). The trap also tends to gather up the neighbourhood cats, on a regular basis. They can be every bit as vicious as a fox, when trapped for a day or two.

Cassie of Sydney
August 27, 2022 8:23 am

Lizzie, I’ve just read back on the dead fred. Just ignore the Queanbeyan’s resident’s nastiness. Don’t get upset, you have many friends here who know you, value you and most importantly, like you…enormously.

As for the Queanbeyan resident, I think Sancho above said it best. As far as I’m concerned she’s a person who’s full of envy and spite, a toxic combination. I pity her.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 27, 2022 8:26 am

I hope Duk has a happy life. I’d hate him to remain so bitter.

Don’t fret for me, now that I know how the world works, I have a tremendous sense of independence and freedom. I saw tyranny coming years ago and got ready for it early. I am thus well placed to help my family navigate what’s coming.

I once had a discussion with the shrink at a compulsory ‘exit country’ debrief after a stint away. I said ‘ I have been to shitty places and seen and done shitty things, and I have seen better people than me get damaged by it, but instead I feel I was strengthened by it, why was that? His reply ‘ah … thats called post traumatic enhancement’.

My tribe is smaller now, but closer. I can see who and what is important, and to concentrate on those things.

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2022 8:28 am

Why do they always mention this?
The impact of about everything ‘disproportionately’ affects people in developing countries.
(Article on the type of cancer John Farnham has)
If they really cared, they’d move permanently to developing countries accepting the pay and conditions available to local doctors.

Globally, the impact of head and neck cancer disproportionately affects those in developing countries due to increased risk factors, delays in diagnosis and limitations on interventions.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 27, 2022 8:32 am

Wee Ha – That was a Big One – Dow Falls More Than 1,000 Points After Powell Speech

Markets decline in broad selloff led by tech as hawkish remarks by Fed chief disappoint investors

The Dow Jones Industrial Average sank more than 1,000 points Friday after Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell vowed to keep pressing the fight against inflation, even at the expense of economic growth.

In a highly anticipated speech, Mr. Powell said the Fed must continue raising interest rates and keep them high until inflation is under control. His comments disappointed investors who had hoped inflation had peaked and the Fed would shift from raising rates to lowering them sometime next year.

Friday’s selloff capped off two consecutive weeks of losses for major stock indexes and largely wiped out the market’s gains since late July. Technology stocks that were flying high earlier this summer took a particular beating, with Amazon.com and Netflix both falling more than 4% for the day.

The Dow shed 1,008.38 points, or 3%, to 32283.40, the blue-chip index’s biggest one-day drop since May.

The S&P 500 fell 141.46 points, or 3.4%, to 4057.66. The tech-focused Nasdaq Composite slid 497.56 points, or 3.9%, to 12141.71. The indexes were little changed ahead of the speech, then steadily declined throughout the session, with losses accelerating into the closing bell.

All three indexes declined more than 4% for the week, following an up-and-down ride in which investors weighed worries over Fed tightening against economic data that pointed to underlying strength in the U.S. economy.

Mr. Powell’s comments at the Fed’s summit in Jackson Hole, Wyo., highlighted how the central bank is preparing to shift from a phase of rapid and large rate increases to potentially one in which it focuses on reaching an interest-rate level that slows hiring, spending and growth, then holds at that level for some time.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 27, 2022 8:32 am

George V was a meme lord.

In that pic, ‘Is Maj looks like Stephen Fry from Blackadder.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2022 8:34 am

Adam Bandt threatens to derail jobs summit

Geoff Chambers
Chief Political Correspondent
@Chambersgc
10:30PM August 26, 2022
82 Comments

Adam Bandt has threatened to sabotage Anthony Albanese’s jobs summit and use the parliament to block agreements struck next week unless the government agrees to demands for an immediate minimum-wage hike and higher pay for women.

The Greens leader, who will ­attend the summit, said he would scuttle summit outcomes and allow them to “languish as an historical footnote” if the government dithered on lifting wages.

Mr Bandt, who wields the balance of power in the Senate and is backing the ACTU push for industry-wide bargaining agreements, will push two Fair Work Act changes to increase wages for low-paid workers and announce further amendments on Wednesday.

The left-wing party wants to set the minimum wage at 60 per cent of the full-time adult median wage, or $23.76 an hour, and lift minimum wages in women-dominated industries faster by guaranteeing award-rate hikes of at least 0.5 per cent above the consumer price index.

“The Greens won’t be a rubberstamp for government side deals with big corporations. If and when any proposals from the jobs summit hit the Senate, the Greens will push to change the law to guarantee wage rises,” Mr Bandt said.

Let the goat rodeo begin!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 27, 2022 8:36 am

I’ve got fox lights.
Ok for open paddocks with no one near but they’d drive people nuts in a more populated area. The flash changes rate and colour as well.
Whether they work or not is debatable. I think foxes soon learn to ignore them.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2022 8:37 am

Lizzie, I’ve just read back on the dead fred. Just ignore the Queanbeyan’s resident’s nastiness. Don’t get upset, you have many friends here who know you, value you and most importantly, like you…enormously.

Second those remarks, Cassie.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 27, 2022 8:39 am

Husband will have the gun ready – but they are very difficult to wing.

Wing them? No no no.

Set up a reo bar, about three feet long and sharpened on both ends. Drive one end into the ground in the yard, at a safe distance from the chook shed. Ensure it is at an angle of exactly 45 degrees.

Get a spare chook – or, if you can find one, a kitten. Wait for dusk. Impale it on reo bar, but not so that it dies immediately. The pheromones and smell will attract the fox.

Set husband up in corner of yard in a hide, with rifle. Make sure husband is smeared in damp coffee grounds beforehand to avoid detection.

Wait. The problem will then resolve itself.

Frank
Frank
August 27, 2022 8:40 am

Groupie?

More likely one of those weekend warriors. All hip clothes (from some salon) on the weekend basking in some vicarious grooviness and then back to the PS job during the week.

Cassie of Sydney
August 27, 2022 8:43 am

Rotherham in the UK, where Muslim rape gangs ran amok (and probably still do run amok), preying on white working class girls. Where the local media, the local police and local Labour politicians, despite being fully aware of what was going on, happily ignored the rapes because they were fearful of being smeared as racists and “Islamophobes”, and as far as I’m concerned were and are happy to see white working class girls get raped by Muslim men, because progressives hate the white working class……well in news just in, it’s been announced that Rotherham is to become the UK’s first….

‘Children’s Capital of Culture’.

All brought to you by a Tory government.

Don’t laugh, don’t cry, this confirms that we are now living in a dystopian world.

calli
calli
August 27, 2022 8:45 am

Lizzie…I’ll type this really really s l o w l y…

I wasn’t talking about you. I was talking about some of my old customers. Stop twisting my words.

This is turning into a nightmare.

Cleaning the oven is more fun.

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2022 8:46 am
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 27, 2022 8:46 am

From Dot’s ladypages:

My big Brazilian ass was picking up grass on the floor, wearing yoga pants. I get it. I don’t mind the looking.

Er. Listen toots, if you’re a ladeeee and you describe your own derriere as plus-sized, please rest assured the blokes are not looking at your arse because it’s desirable.

They are thinking ‘How and why did someone get two 15kg bags of potting mix, smack them up with a sledgehammer and then put yoga pant material on them?’

Mater
August 27, 2022 8:47 am

From Rosie’s link:

Some of the risk factors for head and neck cancers such as smoking and heavy drinking are seen as “lifestyle risk factors” and may attract stigma.

The only stigma I’ve seen around head and neck cancers is that if it happens to be HPV related, it advertises to the world that you are partial to a bit of ‘muff diving’.

Far from being embarrassed by it, I say embrace it and wear it as a badge of honour.

P.S. Under the same reasoning, I’d suggest if you get HPV related anal cancer, perhaps keep it under your hat.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 27, 2022 8:47 am

Days after a senior American defence chief confirmed the US would consider selling its in-­development B-21 bomber to Australia, Mr Marles said the in-development stealth aircraft were also being examined to give the ADF the ability to hold adversaries at bay over long distances.

Not even due in the US for another 5 years … which means 10.

Should be right in time for next years Taiwan away game.

Duk, the B-21 is highly derivative from the B-2. Same company and Northrop seems to have managed to keep its corporate knowledge together 40 years on from the YF-23 and B-2. The B-21 looks like what the engineers decided they would now do after the B-2 experience. Likely a good aircraft but if we buy it it will probably be like the F-111 where we were the only foreign operator and were left like a shag on a rock when the US abandoned the F-111.
Probably doesn’t matter as we have no liquid fuel reserves anyway. We’ll get a few missions before running out of gas. This just about happens every Pitch Black, I’m told.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 27, 2022 8:48 am

Can Magistrate Judges Constitutionally Issue Search Warrants Against Trump (Or Anyone Else)?

The Mar-A-Lago warrant illustrates the long-standing constitutional anomaly of letting magistrate judges sign search warrants.

The Mar-a-Lago search warrant is interesting not only because of the high office of the individual whose papers were seized but also because of the low office of the person who signed it. The warrant illustrates the long-standing constitutional anomaly of letting magistrate judges sign search warrants.

Leave aside how you feel about the former president. Leave aside what you think of January 6, 2021. Leave aside whether there was a good reason to issue the warrant. A more basic question is whether the Hon. Bruce Reinhart could constitutionally issue it.

Under the Constitution, a Search Warrant Must Be Signed by a Judge
The problem is that Reinhart is a so-called magistrate judge. Many commentators have focused on his personal history and political leanings, but much more significant is that he is not really a judge.

To be precise, he is not a judge of a court of the United States. The judicial power of the United States is vested in its courts. In the exercise of this power, judges of those courts can issue search warrants. But a magistrate judge is just an assistant to a court and its judges. Not being a judge of one of the courts of the United States, he cannot constitutionally exercise the judicial power of the United States. That means he cannot issue a search warrant.

The full shift of the judicial power of the United States in criminal cases to magistrate judges has been relatively recent. Only since 1968 has Congress generally authorized persons other than real judges to exercise the judicial power of the United States in trying misdemeanors (although a defendant can still insist on being tried by a real judge when charged with more than a petty offense). In addition, district courts can assign the non-judges “such additional duties as are not inconsistent with the Constitution and laws of the United States.” Only since 1990 have the non-judges been called “magistrate judges.”

Just how little a magistrate judge can be considered a judge is evident from the way he is appointed. Rather than be nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senate—as provided by the Constitution for real judges—a magistrate judge, including the one who signed the Mar-a-Lago warrant, is appointed merely by a majority of the active judges of a district court. He serves for only eight years, he can be removed for cause, and even if not removed, he always must worry that his district court will not reappoint him.

Congress, moreover, can reduce his salary. He therefore is not a judge of the court, but merely one of its servants. Like a law clerk or other assistant, he can help a judge understand the issues underlying the decision to issue a search warrant. But he should not issue it.

Anglo-American history is illuminating. An exercise of judicial power, the issuance of a search warrant traditionally had to come from one who enjoyed that power. So, in England, search warrants had to be issued by a judge or a justice of the peace, who enjoyed elements of a judge’s authority. Similarly, in early states, search warrants had to come from a judge or justice of the peace. This already suggests a difficulty for the Mar-a-Lago warrant and any other search warrant issued by a magistrate judge or anyone else who is not really a judge, but merely an assistant or adjunct to a judge.

This problem is evident not merely from history, but from the Constitution’s very text. Whereas the English and state systems let some judicial power be exercised by justices of the peace and other judicial officers who were not judges of the courts, the federal system confined the judicial power of the United States officers to the courts and their judges.

The U.S. Constitution vests the judicial power of the United States in the Supreme Court and such other courts as Congress authorizes. That is, it leaves no room for the judicial power of the United States to be exercised by any other court or any judges except those who sit on such courts. This bodes ill for federal search warrants signed by magistrate judges and other judicial officers who are not judges of the courts.

One might protest that the courts or their judges can delegate their power to subordinates. But at common law—in contrast to civil law—judges have never been able to delegate judicial power. And the Constitution does more than simply vest the judicial power of the United States in the courts, for it says that the judicial power “shall be vested” in the courts. If it had merely vested judicial power in the courts, it might have left the courts free to subdelegate their power.

In contrast, by saying that the judicial power shall be vested in the courts, it not only places judicial power in the courts but also makes that location mandatory. In other words, neither Congress nor the courts can transfer it elsewhere. So a magistrate judge’s exercise of the judicial power in issuing a search warrant cannot be excused on a theory of delegation.

At stake is whose judgment matters. The whole point of having judges nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senate is to ensure that the judgment required for the exercise of judicial power will be the judgment of individuals learned in the law—ones carefully chosen to exercise mere judgment, not will.

Such individuals, moreover, are protected in salary and tenure. They need never worry that they will be removed for cause or not reappointed. So the judgment of a real judge makes a real difference. Any binding judicial act that is not merely ministerial must be an exercise of judgment by an actual judge of the courts, not anyone else.

Not Politics or Personalities, But the Constitution

The violation of the former president’s freedom illuminates the damage done to the many thousands of other Americans who have been subjected to unconstitutionally issued search warrants. Although it is widely assumed that warrants issued by magistrate judges are lawful, the Constitution and even current doctrines suggest otherwise.

Such warrants are unlawful and dangerous. And the unconstitutionality is as serious for each of us as for the former president.

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2022 8:49 am

Calli if you trying to guilt me into cleaning my oven stop it now.
It’s cold and dreary in Melbourne.
I’m almost missing Queensland (I’m definitely missing my favourite Queensland inhabitants)

calli
calli
August 27, 2022 8:50 am

Calli, I am not a ‘don’t you know who I am’ type. I am nobody, and happy to be so.
That is an unfair twist and unworthy of someone who claims to be more Christian than most.

Just in case the casual reader can’t be bothered going up thread.

That was really, really nasty Lizzie. And directed right at me over something I didn’t say about you.

Now back to the Easy Off Bam. The racks are gleaming, now it’s time for my favourite bit – the rotten fan at the back.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 27, 2022 8:52 am

Have a relative who had to fly overseas at short notice due to very sick relative in Phillipines.

Double jabbed but last one 11 months ago. No choice but to get booster as can’t enter Phillipines without it. No such requirement for entering Oz.

Makes online booking with pharmacist chain outlet. Ticks Novovax. When time comes the person giving the injection starts trying to talk her out of it due to some problems with it in South Africa. She takes it anyway.

I had a look online and looks like he might be referring to initial trials where SA reported a much lower efficacy than trials in UK.

Either way a bit disconcerting for the customer !

Either way taking a medical procedure you would rather not has become a box ticking exercise in order to do certain things.

By the way forgot to take PCR test and when checking in asked for it but then waved through anyway as said just got booster.

Never forget the Dan Andrews clip where he referred to the vaccine economy.

“Evening folks
Had drinks with bloke, $140 for a PCR test to clear him for flying out to Thailand
Departure tax on dissenters”

Cassie of Sydney
August 27, 2022 8:54 am

Just reading back on the old thread. Timothy Neilson write a very good comment before the thread died, it’s worth reposting here because he accurately describes the abject, forlorn, disgraceful and very miserable state of the Liberal Party of Australia, federally and in ALL states….

“Yes, but why would anyone vote for a pissweak collection of “me too”ers who won’t challenge any premise underlying what Maximum Leader has wreaked on us?

Margaret Thatcher said “first you win the argument then you win the vote”. The coalition are too gutless to make an argument, because that might not immediately resonate with an electorate who has been sold on Labor’s propaganda. They haven’t done the hard yards of presenting an alternative that doesn’t instantly get approval from the focus groups. It’s too late for this election, but if they’d actually shown some ticker two or three years ago they might have been further down in the polls before now but now be in a position to reclaim some ground – now they’re mired in the excrement of their own hopeless perennial capitulation, because no-one will believe them if they suddenly start to make a case as to why their prior acceptance of the rationale of Labor’s policies was totally wrong.

They’ll get belted this time, and deservedly so. The sad thing is that they won’t learn. They’ll spend the next four years chasing illusory small gains in the next opinion poll by aping Labor’s stance, and wondering why voters prefer the real thing to the pale imitation.”

Well said Timothy. As I wrote earlier last night on the old thread, Victorians desperately need a change of government….but they won’t get it. The Liberals, and particularly the thin-lipped, nasty and utterly mediocre Groundhog Guy has seen to that.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 8:55 am

Try chumming some of this shit!

25 footer, three tonnes.

We’re gonna need a bigger boat.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 27, 2022 8:55 am

Toppering lyrics #1 – Jon English:

I wear carefully faded designer jeans and I once met Marlon Brando
And I even bought a drink for the Aga Khan but he would not shake my hand
Oh mumma make me happy, send me lots more cash
Don’t worry, I saw the Midnight Express thirty-six times
And I know where to keep my stash

#2 – Charlene:

Ooh, I’ve been to Georgia and California and anywhere I could run
Took the hand of a preacher man
And we made love in the sun

Ooh, I’ve been to Nice and the Isle of Greece
When I sipped champagne on a yacht
I moved like Harlow in Monte Carlo
And showed them what I’ve got
I’ve been undressed by kings
And I’ve seen some things that a woman ain’t s’posed to see
I’ve been to paradise but I’ve never been to me…

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2022 8:55 am

Isn’t it the destination country that is imposing the vaxx tax?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 27, 2022 8:57 am

Cleaning the oven is more fun.

Wait, what? They need cleaning, do they?

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2022 8:58 am

I agree Cassie.
I’d have replied to the Liberal party begging text but it was a one way street.
Hey Mattguy, you blocked me on twitter, but you’re asking me for a donation?
No way.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 27, 2022 9:00 am

The Groupie is probably lonely and bitter. After selling her townhouse prices have risen by 50 to 75%. Living in a motel is chewing into her capital. The pain from her arthritis won’t help. None of this makes any difference if she’s just a nasty old chook. My mates ex remembered every slight for the last 50 years. They’ve been divorced for 25 years and she still is bitter about everything he does now. Some people are just like that. Lizzie try for more upticks than 56. Set it as a goal. If Cassie had said it would be upsetting. Some Groupie who doesn’t know you doesn’t count. She’s probably been on the goon bag.

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2022 9:02 am

Imagining cold overcast no wind Melbourne in the coming years.
I think I might get a wood heater installed and I’m definitely going to have a year’s supply of toilet paper on hand.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 27, 2022 9:03 am

Pity they ever banned traps. The best method to get foxes around the old chook shed. If you were very lucky you could bag a corgi as well.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 27, 2022 9:03 am
calli
calli
August 27, 2022 9:04 am

They need cleaning, do they?

Sadly, yes. The Beloved does the Webber bbq with the pressure washer, the sod. I don’t think that would work in the kitchen.

Could give it a try though. First turn off the master switch. Safety First!

amortiser
amortiser
August 27, 2022 9:05 am

Why do women live a Better, Longer & Peaceful Life, compared to men?

A very INTELLIGENT student replied: “Because Women don’t have a wife!”

That one is a bit dated.

Indolent
Indolent
August 27, 2022 9:05 am
132andBush
132andBush
August 27, 2022 9:06 am

The only stigma I’ve seen around head and neck cancers is that if it happens to be HPV related, it advertises to the world that you are partial to a bit of ‘muff diving’.

Forget the toppering, I’d much rather talk about fox slaughter and muff diving.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 27, 2022 9:08 am

NT News, but across a heap of NewsCorp sites:

An Australian judge has been identified as a suspected mafia mole, with their alleged links uncovered during an investigation into the ‘Ndrangheta’s reach in society and public office.

The judge is the second high-ranking law enforcement official to be suspected in rececnt months.

For legal reasons their identity and details of the investigation by federal authorities cannot be revealed, but it is understood several cases the judicial figure has presided over going back years are now broadly being looked at.

Right now they’ll be trawling through court transcripts, looking for commentary from the bench containing ‘fuggedaboutit’ and ‘this thing of ours’ and ‘what’s my end?’

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2022 9:09 am

Calli at 6:34.
You can’t do toppering without naming names.
Or at least a specific institution (eg “the higher ups at BHP” or “the top table at Dandenong TAFE”)
You just can’t.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 27, 2022 9:11 am

A facility I worked at had flashing lights to keep the birds away. After a few days of operation the birds were sitting close by. Everyone else was annoyed by the flashing. Mostly the neighbours.

Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 9:11 am

Former President Trump just released this statement

Thanks, Indolent at 9.04am: Trump brilliantly sums up the trickery of the Deep State with its “redactions”, not to mention all the leaking.

Mater
August 27, 2022 9:12 am

Any suggestions from the farmers on this blog, please?

Yep!

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2022 9:14 am

Interest rates rise, energy prices sky rocket, prices of every else increase, wages go up via government fiat, doesn’t that mean more inflation, more interest rate rises?
House prices expected to drop rapidly sooner than forecasted

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2022 9:14 am

miltonfsays:

August 27, 2022 at 6:45 am

This thread dedicated to Rob Hirst.

Midnight Oil drummer, and one of the greatest rich communists of our time.

Didn’t he have a column in the Bulletin during its twilight years?

Who would know?

Mater
August 27, 2022 9:14 am

Forget the toppering, I’d much rather talk about fox slaughter and muff diving.

I’ve got some ‘toppering’ stories which are all encompassing…but this is a family blog!

Megan
Megan
August 27, 2022 9:17 am

I’ve got fox lights.
Ok for open paddocks with no one near but they’d drive people nuts in a more populated area.

Our new neighbour installed them when the foxes were destroying their tennis court net in some weird fox night game.
Frightened the living daylights out of me when I went to investigate suspicious sounds of a motorbike in the wee small hours* and they suddenly lit up the length of our driveway.

*Not sure what I was planning on doing if it turned out to be home invasion folk. I was carrying my steel wrapped hurley though.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 27, 2022 9:18 am

Let the goat rodeo begin!

The Job Summit objectives:

• keeping unemployment low, boosting productivity and incomes

• delivering secure, well-paid jobs and strong, sustainable wages growth
expanding employment opportunities for all Australians including the most disadvantaged

• addressing skills shortages and getting our skills mix right over the long term

• improving migration settings to support higher productivity and wages

• maximising jobs and opportunities from renewable energy, tackling climate change, the digital economy, the care economy and a Future Made in Australia

• and ensuring women have equal opportunities and equal pay.

Lofty, noble, adult-in-the-room.

Contrasted with the actual Agenda for the goat rodeo.

Distressing to think that 14 brief sessions, spread over one and a half days – dealing with fairness in the workplace, redistribution of created value, and migration – is somehow supposed to equate to consultation, or analysis, or even discussion of the Albo grand strategy.
Far less yielding outcomes for Goblin Bandt to fondle…

The Mr Rude 2020 Summit, writ small and without hugs and vagina candles.

Roger
Roger
August 27, 2022 9:19 am

A US Coast Guard vessel patrolling the Pacific for illegal fishing was unable to dock and refuel in Honiara. Ditto a Royal Navy vessel, apparently. No permissions given.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 27, 2022 9:21 am

Forget the toppering, I’d much rather talk about fox slaughter and muff diving.

I don’t think we’ve nearly finished with discussion about Hunter Biden’s penis.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 27, 2022 9:22 am

My lame claim to fame: my grandfather once did a renno at Haig’s place.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 27, 2022 9:25 am

When I ask for directions, please don’t use words like “east.”

I’m the one who will use words like “east”.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 27, 2022 9:26 am

Arrived here early, sitting outside in the car on my phone.

Yes Dotty. I AM good.
You got a problem wit dat?

Vicki has sent me a pic of a fox on her back doormat! The door is glass and this vixen has made herself very comfortable. You’d have to step on her to get out. A worry as feral animals can be feral.

132andBush
132andBush
August 27, 2022 9:29 am

Vicki,
Has the fox been named?
I suggest Karl

Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 9:29 am

A US Coast Guard vessel patrolling the Pacific for illegal fishing was unable to dock and refuel in Honiara. Ditto a Royal Navy vessel, apparently. No permissions given.

The small-time Melanesian corruptocrats in Honiara are no match for the Chinese Communist Party’s Third World blackmail strategy.

But don’t worry: our DFAT lesbians are on the case.

FMD.

Roger
Roger
August 27, 2022 9:30 am

Margaret Thatcher said “first you win the argument then you win the vote”. The coalition are too gutless to make an argument, because that might not immediately resonate with an electorate who has been sold on Labor’s propaganda.

Correct, but this assumes today’s Gliberals have core beliefs they’re prepared to stand up and argue for. That’s not the case with 90% of them. John Howard’s “broad church” has, predictably, been white-anted by progressive leftists (cf. Conquest’s Laws of Politics).

Rabz
August 27, 2022 9:30 am

ALPBC Pet Scientist:

Dr Zdenek says snakes cannot tell the difference between a frog and a toad.

Nor can delivery wallies, it seems.

miltonf
miltonf
August 27, 2022 9:31 am

DFAT- a canbra marxist playgroup, nice trips o/s on the taxpayer dime.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 27, 2022 9:32 am

A US Coast Guard vessel patrolling the Pacific for illegal fishing was unable to dock and refuel in Honiara. Ditto a Royal Navy vessel, apparently. No permissions given.

Just trying to think who would prefer factory fishing to go unmolested…

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 27, 2022 9:33 am

I didn’t laugh, Calli, I was disgusted and I still am.

(I may have said this before…)

Don’t worry about it, Lizzie. Many of us enjoy your contributions and you can’t please everyone. Water, ducks’ backs, etc… Perhaps make a game of it…

For the record, I also enjoy Joh’s contributions. Until she goes Meta-Çat, that is. Then the scroll finger gets a workout. Others should consider doing the same.

miltonf
miltonf
August 27, 2022 9:34 am

Roger, after looking at Howard’s record- bringing in middle/working class Australia’s No. 1 enemy-Trumble, the RET, mass migration and land clearing laws, I’m not sure he had any beliefs other than he liked being PM.

miltonf
miltonf
August 27, 2022 9:36 am

As for the Vicco Lieboral’s treatment of Bernie Finn- I’m still gobsmacked.

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 27, 2022 9:39 am

Wait, what? They need cleaning, do they?

Take the batteries out of any smoke detectors and run the oven on high
with the door open.
When the smoking stops, it’s done.
Simples.

Bluey
Bluey
August 27, 2022 9:42 am

miltonfsays:
August 27, 2022 at 9:34 am
Roger, after looking at Howard’s record- bringing in middle/working class Australia’s No. 1 enemy-Trumble, the RET, mass migration and land clearing laws, I’m not sure he had any beliefs other than he liked being PM.

Personally I rate Howard as one of the most destructive PM’s in the history of Australia. If the mining boom hadn’t happened I doubt he would be anywhere near as well regarded.

Roger
Roger
August 27, 2022 9:44 am

Roger, after looking at Howard’s record- bringing in middle/working class Australia’s No. 1 enemy-Trumble, the RET, mass migration and land clearing laws, I’m not sure he had any beliefs other than he liked being PM.

Also my assessment.

Howard was a conservative liberal whose default strategy was tactical retreat (except on gun laws), which merely resulted in ceding territory to the enemy over the longer term.

Rabz
August 27, 2022 9:44 am

Australian MSM continues to display its ignorance and/or complicity by blathering on about the FBI finding “classified documents” at Trump’s home.

ALPBC nooze this morning (cue spooky music …): “Top Secret Nookular Documents stored at Fatty Trump’s Mary Largo home”

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 27, 2022 9:45 am

Even the trade unions, who’re complicit in this stuff, are now saying that riots may occur this winter

Soon is the winter of their discontent
Made glorious summer by the immolation of politicians.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2022 9:48 am

Er. Listen toots, …

There are some real crimes against yoga pants being committed. Saturday mornings are typically the worst.

Roger
Roger
August 27, 2022 9:48 am

Just trying to think who would prefer factory fishing to go unmolested…

The Pacific Island nations have an agreement with the US, UK & AUS whereby we assist them in monitoring their fisheries. It’s going to be interesting to see the broader reaction if Honiara doesn’t re-think this. As it is, the vessels were diverted to refuel in PNG.

Beertruk
August 27, 2022 9:49 am

Husband will have the gun ready – but they are very difficult to wing. Any suggestions from the farmers on this blog, please?

.22 or .222 will sort it out.

Cliff Boof
Cliff Boof
August 27, 2022 9:50 am

“The small-time Melanesian corruptocrats in Honiara are no match for the Chinese Communist Party’s Third World blackmail strategy.”

Nor Seal Team Six. It would be cheaper in the long run.

Tom
Tom
August 27, 2022 9:55 am

I’m not sure he had any beliefs other than he liked being PM.

Being a former Australian prime minister gets you dinner party invitations for life around the world, makes you a curiosity in Washington and is a job application at the UN.

Best thing is: you don’t have to believe in anything except your own ego and all but one* of the latest batch clawed their way to the top of the antipodean pile only because of their gigantic self-regard.

*the exception being the one who was good in the fight but forgot his principles the minute he reached nirvana.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 27, 2022 10:01 am

“The small-time Melanesian corruptocrats in Honiara are no match for the Chinese Communist Party’s Third World blackmail strategy.”

Well, just hang on there.

How Australia rekindled crucial Pacific ties

After launching a full court diplomatic press, Australia made some much-needed headway with its closest neighbours.

I hope you’re not suggesting that the Albanese/Wong charm offensive was only 97.3% effective.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 27, 2022 10:04 am

It’s going to be interesting to see the broader reaction if Honiara doesn’t re-think this. As it is, the vessels were diverted to refuel in PNG.

You’d have to think of this as the US/UK testing Honiara.

Roger
Roger
August 27, 2022 10:04 am

Even the trade unions, who’re complicit in this stuff, are now saying that riots may occur this winter

The union leader’s harking back to the poll tax riots is a superficial analysis.

This crisis has the potential to foment a late 1970s style reset (if I may use that term!) of the British political settlement.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 27, 2022 10:05 am

Sancho Panzersays:
August 27, 2022 at 9:14 am
miltonfsays:

August 27, 2022 at 6:45 am

This thread dedicated to Rob Hirst.

Midnight Oil drummer, and one of the greatest rich communists of our time.

Didn’t he have a column in the Bulletin during its twilight years?

Who would know?

Who would care?

Roger
Roger
August 27, 2022 10:07 am

You’d have to think of this as the US/UK testing Honiara.

They certainly are now; the RN has said it expects its next ship to call in Honiara will be permitted to dock without delay, as per the existing agreement.

struth
struth
August 27, 2022 10:09 am

Where’s the boosted choo choo?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 27, 2022 10:19 am

What happens if you squash baby cane toads walking in your garden?

The Thai punishment.

You get your soles caned.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 27, 2022 10:24 am

Where’s the boosted choo choo?

Well, he’s dead. Obviously. Blood turned to nanowires and sludge.

What else would you have concluded?

Makka
Makka
August 27, 2022 10:25 am

Yes. Out of concern for consumers. Hint: ownership of assets isn’t the issue.</blockquote

Many forms of ownership. Our stinking Govts are "owned" by subscription to the EWF/UN/Green cabal of tyrants . Our corporates vary little as their fascist strategies also make us their targets for fleecing of our hard earned.

All things considered, the consumer/taxpayer/citizen is on a hiding to nothing.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 27, 2022 10:25 am

Calli’s upticks this morning going parabolic.

Makka
Makka
August 27, 2022 10:26 am

blockquote fail

Pogria
Pogria
August 27, 2022 10:30 am

Vicki,
I have had success with poisoning foxes with home made baits.
I had to do a two day Farm Chemical course some years back, cost $3oo, to be able to buy 1080 to bait foxes on my property. Then I was told my property was too close to my neighbours, so no go.
So, to my home made baits. Buy the cheapest, fishiest cat food cans available. A box of snail pellets.
Combine the two well and place around your chicken ranging area. Make sure you hollow the soil a little, place the bait, then cover lightly with more soil. Foxes like to rummage.
Also, make sure you mark where you placed the baits as you need to check them every morning before you let the dogs and the chooks out. Cover the bait areas well before you let the good animals out for the day.
You also don’t want to kill the local meat eating birds.

Failing that, invest in a Marremma or two. Those dogs really are the business when it comes to protecting livestock of any kind.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 27, 2022 10:30 am

Beertruksays:
August 27, 2022 at 9:49 am
Husband will have the gun ready – but they are very difficult to wing. Any suggestions from the farmers on this blog, please?

.22 or .222 will sort it out.

plus Powerful HandHeld Spotlight – Fox eyes really stand out for .22 shot

Know your enemy: How to outfox the wily red fox
25 August 2020

While the fox’s eye is an advantage in hunting, it’s also a weakness.

The iris of the adult fox glows bright yellow under a spotlight due to a pigment called lipochrome.

Spotlighting is a traditional and effective culling strategy. Humans lack a tapetum so in a flash photograph the light is reflected back by blood in the retina. This causes the ‘red-eye’ seen in many indoor photos.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 27, 2022 10:31 am

.22 or .222 will sort it out.

Too noisy.
Husband secreted on the roof in his ninja gear, armed with nunchucks.
Fox trips off a carefully set silent alarm wire and said husband pounces from above with flailing arms of death.
Fox then reverently interred well away from the veggie patch.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 27, 2022 10:32 am

The union leader’s harking back to the poll tax riots is a superficial analysis.

Yes it is; essentially political dog whistling.

The Poll Tax was an uncharacteristically clumsy Thatcher revenue grab. It was universally loathed and the uprising was a popular Fuck OFF reaction.

The energy poverty issue stems from a systematic failure. So less of a focus for street protest, but more wtf outrage.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2022 10:33 am

Janet Albrechtsen doing her best groupie impression in Teh Weekend Paywallian.

Roger
Roger
August 27, 2022 10:33 am

This crisis has the potential to foment a late 1970s style reset (if I may use that term!) of the British political settlement.

‘Keeping the lights on is a basic function of modern government, and we are close to critical failure. The next PM’s first task must be to exorcise vested interests and create clear lines of accountability. If the eco-blob cannot be tamed, the future of the country looks dark.’

British energy planning (a horror story)

We’re not far behind them.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2022 10:37 am

The Poll Tax was an uncharacteristically clumsy Thatcher revenue grab.

Overreach. See also: Work Choices. Makes fighting Tories popular.

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 27, 2022 10:39 am

Well, he’s dead. Obviously. Blood turned to nanowires and sludge.
What else would you have concluded?

I thought it was supposed to be just like Wikus in District 9.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 27, 2022 10:41 am

ftb had a big one yesterday.
A largish, longish lunch catching up with some people who I hadn’t see since the “before times”.
Anyway, the bill comes & they’ve left all the booze off.
So I alert them to that so they come back with the updated bill thanking us for being so honest.

Anyway after more beers the party moved to Paddo RSL.
Where I win FOUR meat trays, plus some drinks vouchers.

Gaia was happy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 27, 2022 10:42 am

Husband secreted on the roof in his ninja gear, armed with nunchucks.
Fox trips off a carefully set silent alarm wire and said husband pounces from above with flailing arms of death.

Like the US lady yesterday, although she was doing the flailing around and the fox was the ninja.
Fascinating video.

Rabid Fox Attacks Woman Outside Her Home in Upstate New York (25 Aug)

Beertruk
August 27, 2022 10:43 am

This might be of interest to any Queensland residents that own investment properties in other states.
Over at the Oz:
Who will be next in Palaszczuk’s outrageous land-tax grab?
KATRINA GRACE KELLY

Who can forget the Queensland premier saying in August 2020 that Queensland hospitals were for their people only? Queensland hospitals might be just for Queenslanders, but all property outside Queensland is now for Queenslanders too. In an extraordinary turn of events, the Queensland government will soon be effectively charging land tax on investment property all over Australia, when it is owned by anyone who also owns a property in Queensland.
This staggering move, which has left the real estate sector and related services industries reeling, sets an alarming precedent. Imagine what might happen if every other state and territory decided to copy Queensland, and tax the value of properties in every other state?
The Queensland government website says: “From 30 June 2023, when we calculate land tax, we will use the total value of your Australian land. This includes your taxable land in Queensland and your relevant interstate land. ‘Relevant interstate land’ includes land located in another state or territory that is valued under interstate valuation legislation and is not excluded interstate land.”
There is a list of excluded land, which is non-investment property, including the principal place of residence. The government says they are actually not taxing land in other states, but just using their value to recalculate the land tax owed in Queensland. Brilliant weasel words along the lines of “we are not hitting you in the head with a plank, it is simply something that looks and feels like a plank”.
The website gives an example of the new system in action. “On 30 June 2022, Lena owns land in Queensland with a taxable value of $745,000. Her land tax is calculated using the rates for individuals. Taxable value of land: $745,000. We will issue an assessment notice for $1950 for the 2022-23 financial year. On 30 June 2023, the value of Lena’s land in Queensland has not changed. But Lena now also owns land in Victoria valued at $1,565,000. The total value of Australian land owned by Lena is $2,310,000, which means the land tax is calculated using a higher rate for individuals. We will issue an assessment notice for $8422.37.”
Poor Lena, what a mistake it has been for her, to own an investment property in Queensland.
The Queensland government’s draconian move has had little scrutiny. Industry insiders knew the legislation was being put to parliament, but assumed that as it was so outrageous there was no chance it would get passed. Some thought it was unconstitutional, and would not even be put to the vote. How wrong they all were.
A Clayton Utz briefing note confirms the Revenue Legislation Amendment Act (Qld) 2022 was assented to on June 30. It says changes to the Land Tax Act 2010 (Qld) will impact Queensland landowners as “assessment of Queensland land tax liability will take into account the value of interstate landholdings”. Ultimately, “this will mean an increase in land tax liability for anyone who owns land in Queensland as well as non-exempt property in another state or territory”.

Don’t for a minute think that any land tax paid to governments outside Queensland will be taken into account, with an offset consideration. According to the advice, the increased tax liability in Queensland does not impact on any taxes payable in other states and territories. Thinking back to poor old Lena, she will have to pay land tax on her Victorian property twice. Once to Victoria, and once to Queensland. It is double taxation, on the same asset.
To illustrate the increase, Clayton Utz gave an example of an individual who currently owns one property in Queensland with a taxable value of $745,000 and one property in NSW with a statutory value of $1,000,000.
Under the current arrangement, the individual will pay $1950 in land tax this financial year in Queensland for the Queensland property. Using the same example in the 2023/2024 financial year using the new system, the same individual will pay $7169.29 in land tax.
Property owners must “assist the Queensland Revenue Office in determining other Australian landholdings and the statutory value of those landholdings” by way of “notice in an approved form (including property description, statutory value and interest)” and “failure to comply with notification obligations will be an -offence”.
Simon Pressley from Propertyology sounded the alarm for the rental sector in his industry newsletter. He points out that this latest policy move will hit land owners hard, and only worsen the current housing shortage.
According to Pressley’s research, 1.7 million Queenslanders live in 620,000 rental properties, and of these, 54,000 are government rented homes, and 576,000 are privately rented. It is the private rental sector, made up of ordinary investors, that does the heavy lifting for provision of rental dwellings.
The government might think they are helping aspiring homeowners by smashing existing owners, but insufficient participation from property investors in the rental market creates a shortfall of supply, and when supply of anything is too low, prices rise. This housing crisis and rental crunch has been created by poor policy decisions that have over many years discouraged private investment in rental housing. With this latest move, the situation looks set to worsen. Who would want to own an investment property in Queensland now?
KATRINA GRACE KELLY

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 27, 2022 10:43 am

I feel sorry for folks in urban or semi urban areas with fox problems as the options are limited.
Farmers shoot and bait if there’s lots of the buggers or have an alpaca on guard duty.
The trap is a good method but you have to really conceal it and camouflage the metal. Try putting a bag over it first then plant cuttings on and around the cage, avoiding the trip mechanism of course.
A roast chook for bait. Very few feral animals can resist the aroma. You’ll naturally catch a lot of cats along the way.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 10:45 am

Peoples.

Poor calli and me meant no harm this morning.

Please don’t be so sensitive.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 27, 2022 10:46 am

A roast chook for bait.Very few feral animals can resist the aroma.

Farmer Gez, you’d probably trap me too.
Be kind when you turn out my lights permanently.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 10:47 am

Lawl…

The Democrats are now trying to spin vaccine injuries as…Trump’s fault.

will
will
August 27, 2022 10:51 am

Let the goat rodeo begin! The Job Summit objectives:

• keeping unemployment low, boosting productivity and incomes

so that means slashing taxation and regulation and the halving the size of government, right?

• delivering secure, well-paid jobs and strong, sustainable wages growth expanding employment opportunities for all Australians including the most disadvantaged

so that means slashing taxation and regulation and the halving the size of government, right?

addressing skills shortages and getting our skills mix right over the long term

so that means slashing taxation and regulation and the halving the size of government, right?

• improving migration settings to support higher productivity and wages

so that means slashing taxation and regulation and the halving the size of government, right?

• maximising jobs and opportunities from renewable energy, tackling climate change, the digital economy, the care economy and a Future Made in Australia

so that means slashing taxation and regulation and removing subsidies cross subsidies and the halving the size of government, right?

• and ensuring women have equal opportunities and equal pay.

so that means slashing taxation and regulation and the halving the size of government, right?

I guess none of these things will happen.

Roger
Roger
August 27, 2022 10:53 am

Speaking on ninjas attacking from above…

The Taliban reports that they have not been able to recover any remains of al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri after he was killed in Kabul on 31 July.

Experts believe the drone that targeted him, nicknamed the “flying Ginsu”, may have been fitted with up to six rapidly spinning blades.

Presumably the birds got to what was left before the Taliban could.

cohenite
August 27, 2022 10:54 am

Like the US lady yesterday, although she was doing the flailing around and the fox was the ninja.
Fascinating video.

Rabid Fox Attacks Woman Outside Her Home in Upstate New York (25 Aug)

That fox is a demorat.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 10:55 am

Well now.

Trying to wean myself off the MS teat. When you don’t pay, they like to fuck your computer. Yes it old, but I got a BSOD for my troubles…and there is no RAM or BIOS issue, I checked in the cmd module.

I call shenanigans!

Slumming it with Open Office and Scribus for publisher files.

Hell, I just need to really get a cracked copy of Dreamweaver and I can read/edit whatever files I want.

Wish me luck. Eight years…I do have a replacement battery and screen, I could not get a legit Surface 3 typepad.

Bugger it. I think I’ll just get a new one.

…any comments on Open Office and Scribus?

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 10:56 am

• and ensuring women have equal opportunities and equal pay.

Childcare workers will rotate with wastewater processors, abalone divers and remote high tension power workers.

JMH
JMH
August 27, 2022 11:03 am

Then the scroll finger gets a workout. Others should consider doing the same.

On a daily basis here.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2022 11:03 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:

August 27, 2022 at 8:06 am

I am just once more disappointed in this place and personally upset deeply by it.

It has such promise but then a streak of nastiness enters and there is a pile on.

I shall have to control my leadfoot on the sporty beamer this morning, because I am very angry.

The sporty Beemer will warn you.
I crept over the limit in my sporty Beemer the other day and got a warning from The Voice In The Dashboard:-

“Bing-Bong!
Please observe the road laws!
You are driving like Fernando Alonso!
….
(Who, incidentally, was best man at my brother’s wedding).”

Even The Voice In The Dashboard is a topperer.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 27, 2022 11:06 am

Farmer Gez, you’d probably trap me too.
Be kind when you turn out my lights permanently.

Damn, that rules out my usual method.
A butter knife left in the cage and the catch mechanism sets off a looped recording of Yoko Ono singing.
Don’t tell anyone as it’s banned under some UN treaty and considered barbaric.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 27, 2022 11:07 am

The Biden administration announced something very good this week.
Any research that receives federal funding has to be made freely available from 2026 onwards.
Aaron Swartz wasn’t available for comment.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 27, 2022 11:07 am

That Bavarian Motor has issues in that a former leader preferred to be transported behind a star.

Makka
Makka
August 27, 2022 11:09 am

The Job Summit

It’s name is a distraction squirrel. It should be named the COST OF LIVING summit.

At <3.5% UE rate, jobs are not the overriding issue for the Aussie families and workers paying taxes to these parasites and their rent seeking maaates to gab on for days. The issue is COL. Specifically, the theft of earnings in taxes before and after you get your wages/salary banked, reducing your income in real terms.

This shitfest will spend it's time working out ways to lower or reduce incomes and income growth.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2022 11:15 am

Mater at 8:47.

P.S. Under the same reasoning, I’d suggest if you get HPV related anal cancer, perhaps keep it under your hat.

The trouble is, these cancers don’t usually occur under the hat.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2022 11:16 am

Specifically, the theft of earnings in taxes before and after you get your wages/salary banked, reducing your income in real terms.

I estimate a minimum wage earner pays 40% tax total, a middle income earner 50% in total and a high income earner with expensive tastes, possibly 70%, all up.

GST
Taxes on development
Income tax
Tariffs
Excise
Land rates
Land tax
Stamp duties
CGT
Royalties
Payroll taxes

Everyone ought to know or work out how much tax they ACTUALLY pay.

Petros
Petros
August 27, 2022 11:22 am

Feelthebern, that used to be a requirement of any research funded by the NIH, if I recall correctly. Not sure what’s new about Bidet’s plan.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 27, 2022 11:23 am

GST
Taxes on development
Income tax
Tariffs
Excise
Land rates
Land tax
Stamp duties
CGT
Royalties
Payroll taxes

Add in licence and permit fees.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2022 11:24 am

Presumably the birds got to what was left before the Taliban could.

Crows and vultures aren’t fussy about what they eat.

Petros
Petros
August 27, 2022 11:25 am

They might if someone had their head up someone’s arse, Sancho. I should be a doctor.

MatrixTransform
August 27, 2022 11:25 am

I am just once more disappointed in this place and personally upset deeply by it.

egregious, she shrieked, I’m so p155ed off I can hardy dance.
and i can’t enjoy a book … at all

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 27, 2022 11:26 am

It’s in their interests to obscurify.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2022 11:27 am

feelthebernsays:

August 27, 2022 at 10:25 am

Calli’s upticks this morning going parabolic.

I think that is the parabolic cleaning function on her oven.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 27, 2022 11:28 am

Campbell Newman went transparent-and-clear, look what happened there…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2022 11:35 am

Failing that, invest in a Marremma or two. Those dogs really are the business when it comes to protecting livestock of any kind.

They use Maremmas down on the coast to protect penguins.
They made a movie about it – “Oddball”.
It gets presented as soppy sentimental nonsense that the dogs are besties with the birdies.
Truth is, they are just incredibly territorial when it comes to other dogs, foxes etc.
You just put your birds inside their territory and their instincts do the rest.

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  1. Reeks of CIA psyops. They don’t have a great record. Trying to fix a problem you’ve created.

  2. Never been at a Welcome to Country ceremony, which in one way I would like to at least once, just…

  3. Funny, I suspected this all along. Pulled straight out of their elbows, to put it politely.BREAKING: O’Keefe Media Group: NIH…

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