1,378 thoughts on “Open Thread – Weekend 3 Sept 2022”
Did Microsoft really flag CL’s joint as a conduit for misinformation? LOL.
He also had Steve from Brisbane and Homer piling on to him there, “correcting” his political errors. It seems that having his own side piling on to him for political incorrectness was too much for him to bear.
In fairness, having to deal with those morons is a big ask.
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Teachers can still not work unjabbed in Queensland at the same rate of pay as the jabbed and overseas and in many areas, the mandates are getting reintroduced.
Only a moron like KD would think this is over.
It is now up to nearly 1500 excess deaths in the UK and rising in all highly jabbed countries.
Where’s choo choo?
The WEF tell us all what they are doing but ask yourself why you don’t want to know.
Because they are making sure you don’t want to know, ……………………..remember having this conversation with people….if you only had a year to live would you want to be told or not told?
KD and all these other fucking loons won’t be flying anywhere soon.
They won’t be able to afford it, and if they could they probably will have used up all their social credit to do so by eating meat.
Covid was the coup.
The takeover.
We are under “boiling frog” communist dictatorship and dumb bastards like KD think it’s all back to normal.
He desperately needs to believe that.
All back to normal?
Denialism and self delusion.
The USA is under communist control.
Full stop.
Milton and a few others here scoff at the disaster that is the USA without contemplating for a second that it’s worse here.
Feel like your vote counts here?
Feel like you have a voice?
The difference here is many here are compliant denialist bunnies, but it’s just as bad, worse.
NZ is way worse than the USA.
The main battlefront is the USA, and it’s the main goal of the communists.
But there is more free speech and the people are still armed.
The globalists (communists) haven’t grasped the beauty of the USA’s decentalised power system.
They haven’t won there so the propaganda is ratcheted up to eleventy.
They know they have us right where they want us.
Thanks jabbed submissive fucks.
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MontySoft (MS).
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H B Bearsays:
September 5, 2022 at 9:45 am
He also had Steve from Brisbane and Homer piling on to him there, “correcting” his political errors. It seems that having his own side piling on to him for political incorrectness was too much for him to bear.
In fairness, having to deal with those morons is a big ask.
They have been polluting CL’s blog for some time. I sometimes wonder which of them “reported” the blog, something which was clearly done by petty mischief makers.
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Did Microsoft really flag CL’s joint as a conduit for misinformation? LOL.
If so, he should wear it as a badge of honour.
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MS stuff works because it was invented by sociopathic coding nerds like Bill Gates and, when it comes to the crunch, I use what works.
Disagree Tom, Gates got Wozniak to do the original coding to get going on the cheap and has continued to provide poorly functioning software ever since. The closest MS ever got to good software was XP in its final iteration. Even then it was full of rubbish. How many newer versions would have been sold if XP was still going. Mate of mine, long dead, stripped out all the crap and made it something really good but still not as good as Linux. Even me could fix problems with XP which I still have running on an old laptop. For what I do it runs faster on the internet than my PC with W10. Only problem the screen is too small. You are right about Gates being a sociopath and whatever his recently departed wife thought he was doing on Epstein’s Island.
(other than reference to “existential threat of climate change”)
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They know they have us right where they want us.
Yeah right, hiding in the couch instead of standing at the Cenotaph. That’ll show them. Still sooking. If only everyone did what I told them they wouldn’t have gone to the death camps or had to sell their Hartley boat. Gee I loved that boat. Idjit.
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The three-month hearing will also probe whether Mr Walker received adequate medical treatment after Const Rolfe fired three shots into his torso from close range as the pair and another officer scuffled inside the teen’s grandmother’s home.
I hope it will be drawn to the attention of the inquest that the staff of the community medical post had been withdrawn for their own safety, and the ambulance that was sent, retreated after being pelted with rocks by the grieving community members?
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It is now up to nearly 1500 excess deaths in the UK and rising in all highly jabbed countries.
Same same here … 22% rise in Australia’s all cause mortality in the last few months (15,000 extra deaths in the last year) … funny I didnt see that on ‘Sunrise’.
Anyone who believes Alaska voted in a democrat has obviously never been there.
You have more of a chance of a teal voting for Paul Hogan.
Especially after the last two years.
But hey, here we are.
WE WILL NEVER VOTE OURSELVES OUT OF THIS…even when we do vote to get out of this.
Millions of votes for Palmer disappeared.
And for Hanson and all the freedom parties and we got MORE LEFTISM.
Really?
Really?
Our voting system is a joke.
Postal voting.
Preferential voting taking weeks and recounted by only the public service in the end…..that’s why they “WAIT” for postal votes.
All the scrutineers have gone home weeks ago.
What utter insulting theatre of the absurd.
Etc.
Think twice before scoffing at the yanks.
Scoffing at those fighting in the exercise yard while you look on from solitary.
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He is a menace, and, while he should not be silenced, …
Why not?
If not, bring back Graham Bird as well then.
Monty is thread pollution and we don’t need examples of idiot leftism here, we know what it looks and sounds like.
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KD and all these other fucking loons won’t be flying anywhere soon.
They won’t be able to afford it, and if they could they probably will have used up all their social credit to do so by eating meat.
Dunno what I’ve done now, but….
St. Ruth. You sound like you could do with a week in Bali. You’re allowed to go, you know.
I hear Faulty’s got a Great Prediction chapter there in need of a guest speaker. Plus, you can watch the boats off Kuta Beach.
No cows.
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He is a menace, and, while he should not be silenced, …
Why not?
If not, bring back Graham Bird as well then.
Bring back Numbers…
They know they have us right where they want us.
Yeah right, hiding in the couch instead of standing at the Cenotaph. That’ll show them. Still sooking. If only everyone did what I told them they wouldn’t have gone to the death camps or had to sell their Hartley boat. Gee I loved that boat. Idjit.
You should have stood at your Cenotaph….if that is what you did the year before.
Fact.
And are you suggesting that it was only little old me telling you not to get jabbed and kill yourself?
If it was only me, you need to step away from the keyboard and get out more.
If you can’t do that, at least get away from this insular little blog of denialists and look up the Barrington declaration, you fucking Gherkin.
The jabbed are in a death camp.
Where’s choo choo?
The working aged jabbed are falling like flies.
I could link to so many credible sites, statistics and links, which Indolent and others do, and you tube videos from Mark Steyn etc, but you can lead a dumb mule to water………….
You were warned, as I often state, and you were warned by the real experts.
This is not over.
It’s just starting.
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WE WILL NEVER VOTE OURSELVES OUT OF THIS
Please spell out, in detail, your plan.
Millions of votes for Palmer disappeared
Please provide some detail as to how this came to pass. Note: ‘Well what else would you have concluded’, which was your actual response to the Death CaMps non-event isn’t really cutting it.
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St. Ruth. You sound like you could do with a week in Bali. You’re allowedto go, you know.
FMD.
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The Big Clivester himself promised REAL EVIDENCES of this staggering apparent vote theft some months back.
Yet to see it. Clearly it’s in the safe and not-at-all-wompus hands of the Hino driver.
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Any of the bush lawyers here care to comment? is giving the community a chance to express their sadness, concerns and hopes for the future what an inquest is supposed to do?
The inquest is setting up to be a show trial and limitless investigation of Rolfe’s entire life and career, plus a wide ranging inquiry into police interactions with Aborigines.
Some Coroners love their moment in the spotlight on high profile matters, just like health bureaucrats.
Rolfe’s lawyers have filed a motion to have numerous areas of the proposed fishing expedition struck out, as well they should.
He is fortunate in having a well-off family and his union backing him. An NT copper from a less moneyed background in the same situation might be travelling even less well.
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Nice story out of the footy on the weekend.
Pies star Taylor Adams tore muscle off the bone in his groin. Season stuffed and a long long recovery.
His tweet.
Magpie Army I need your help. Following todays game, whilst walking back to the AIA centre. A young girl and her father could see I was flat. The young girl came up to me and offered to hold my hand crossing Swan street, she then gave a massive hug. I would love to find them
That’s what most little girls are and it makes them the loveliest creatures on earth.
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The jabbed are in a death camp.
Ohhhhhh.
A conceptual death camp. That’s what it was all along, right? Got it.
Ladies and gents, I present the unconditional champion – in a crowded field – of the Goalpost Relocation Awards. An astounding achievement.
How many fucking times do you need it spelled out?
Millions of us did it.
It wasn’t a plan.
It was how decent people react to tyranny.
We don’t obey it.
We don’t submit and obey.
Are you trying to suggest the millions who did not obey were following my orders?
I mean wow, who knew this little blog could have such an effect on millions of people.
Or is it that I’m just one of the millions who knew what the right thing to do was, and mentioned it here?
There is right and wrong.
You are trying to dismiss righteous behaviour by attaching it to one individual and then attempting to dismiss the individual.
Good luck with that.
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you were warned by the real experts
Yep. The replicating metal nanowire people.
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KD, you can’t do this by yourself, you need the whole gang here.
And without choo choo going off half cocked, Sancho of the skid mark lying through his teeth, the waters aren’t going to get muddied enough.
Where’s choo choo.
Get him out here.
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JC says:
September 5, 2022 at 10:24 am
I wouldn’t over egg that omelette, Gez.
A bit of memory to when my two girls were little made the story stick out.
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I shift no goal post, and those camps (which I said will be like concentration camps) are still there.
They haven’t been bulldozed, and until that happens, you can’t claim I was wrong.
This is not over.
On another thread I argued myself blue in the face against a self described engineer and uni professor, both AGW cultists. No fact, contradiction of AGW science, or evidence of duplicity by climate scientists or motive by a group pushing this barrow could shake their faith. And faith it is, or a cult. And that is only the beginning of the problem. The real problem is the gutless cowards in power listen to cult pawns like extinction rebellion. Brendon O’Neil wrote a good essay on this:
And this is the problem: people in government who we elect are influenced by these nutters. We see this blight pervading our bureaucracy, schools, universities, MSM and even business because a small bunch of lunatics are given their empty heads; and the end result are policies which are as insane as the lunatics: renewables replacing proven fossil and nuclear energy, economies being decimated and science as a discipline being eroded.
Alarmism should have ended with the Al Gore An Inconvenient Truth Judgment in 2007, It certainly should have ended with Climategate in 2010. But both prove this is not about facts or evidence but belief, money, ideology and frankly insanity.
Politicians who oppose this madness should be supported and the few brave scientists, Plimer, Ridd given every financial and legal support. Because literally we are now at the stage where society is being redefined according to the insanity of a small group of ratbags.
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Prof…Bhattacharya of Stanford,……..metal nanowire people to the mentally sick denialist.
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It wasn’t a plan
No. It wasn’t. You said, really loud: WE WILL NEVER VOTE OURSELVES OUT OF THIS.
If there is no voting this away, then what? What is your alternate plan for forming a leadership of this country, if not via the ballot box? No dissembling, no soapboxing. Put it in a wordwall, as long as it accurately describes just how you would:
1. Have the country run;
2. Who, specifically, would run it; and
3. The checks and balances you would create to prevent just such tYranNy as is present now.
Surely, surely you’re not suggesting a leadership and/or government that isn’t formed through the electoral process in some form.
Are you?
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you can’t claim I was wrong
You said you were wrong, which was the only time in recent memory you were right.
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Disagree Tom
GreyRanga, I defer to your greater knowledge of software nerdery.
I couldn’t care less about the subject, except that the nerds have used their autistic mastery of HTML code to gain political power over me and to set the rules for public discussion of ideas via the social media monopolies they control.
And because they’re nerds who hate the human race and would rather talk to a computer, they have no interest is solving real computer problems for other people — like why there’s no audible alarm system to warn you you’re accidentally typing in capital letters or making it easier to retrieve lost passwords or why I have to know a software program to understand why I can no longer use my most popular get-save address in my email.
They won’t solve those everyday problems because that would cede political power to the normies and decrease our reliance on them. Only psychopaths think like that.
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We all know politics is downstream of culture,
There is some truth to this but I also think the there is a con involved here; namely, that politics can do nothing to reverse the direction the culture is going presently, and that the politics of the past is in no way implicated in the culture of the present. I think both of these claims are false, and therefore, that the claim ‘politics is downstream of culture’ is also false. A lot of culture is downstream of politics and a lot can be done politically to reverse the direction of the culture presently.
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I watched the Pennsylvania rally yesterday and yes he did a bit of 2020 reminiscing but covered today’s issues far more .. I suppose, when you run a 2 hour non-stop talk-fest recounting the past is always gonna take up a slice ..
Yep, just compare the crowds over the weekend in PA, and no other R will get out the vote in Nov like Trump.
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Politics is downstream of culture in a democracy.
If you seek to reverse this, you are fighting against democracy.
Anyone really think that politics is not upstream here?
And that politics is unable to reverse this sort of exploitative and predatory conduct?
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We won’t vote ourselves out of this BECAUSE so many submitted and complied.
So round one was a complete win for the commos.
Thanks for that, submissive jabbed people.
So now we will not vote our way out.
I would suggest that we never could anyway…..in this country.
But definitely not now.
And now the only way is to still not obey.
I didn’t get jabbed and as the days go by I meet more and more people who haven’t been jabbed either and they are saying it out loud now, as the jabbed go silent.
Some of them have been permanently silenced already.
Already.
Yet the silence from the jabbed is deafening.
No facebook posts with “fully vaxxed” circles around their virtue signalling mug shots.
No wishing death on the unjabbed.
No screaming Karens.
Silence.
It all never happened.
As they drop like flies.
The first battle is lost here, and our captors feel relaxed and are having fun keeping you occupied with jobfests, and voices to parliament.
“Avin’ a larf”
Yet the USA is starting to realise in ever increasing numbers that a globalist/communist coup occurred.
Biden’s language indicates his minders are aware of it, and now they turn to violence.
Classic history.
When the propaganda doesn’t work anymore, what’s left?
Too late to turn back now.
Freedom is to be found in the hearts of men.
So is cowardly submission.
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I can’t even repost the Lady Pages on Medium because they’ve gone into overdrive.
I can’t keep up with the crazy.
We must accelerate.
More crazy hair cat lady land whale tales…
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Politics is downstream of culture in a democracy.
If you seek to reverse this, you are fighting against democracy.
Yes, yes, because liberals, such as yourself, never use politics to further liberalism. I mean the thought of you doing so never crosses your mind.
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Politics is downstream of culture in a democracy.
If you seek to reverse this, you are fighting against democracy.
Exactly.
Should we have a vote on the woke agenda?
What about climate change?
We could find out what people really believe……….which is the real culture.
Not the culture of a half a dozen screaming fuckwits in our universities.
The real culture is the one that needs to be silenced and attacked by the undemocratic.
That’s your side doing that Monty.
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Disagree Tom, Gates got Wozniak to do the original coding to get going on the cheap and has continued to provide poorly functioning software ever since. The closest MS ever got to good software was XP in its final iteration. Even then it was full of rubbish. How many newer versions would have been sold if XP was still going. Mate of mine, long dead, stripped out all the crap and made it something really good but still not as good as Linux. Even me could fix problems with XP which I still have running on an old laptop. For what I do it runs faster on the internet than my PC with W10.
Have you guys looked into a geek called Falcon? He makes a lot of nice tools to work around MS stupidity. It helped save a list hard drive of mine after upgrading from. Win 8 to Win 10.
Windows 7 was perfect.
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Politics is downstream of culture in a democracy.
If you seek to reverse this, you are fighting against democracy.
Monty, instead of actually reading what Dover Beach wrote at 10.37am, you’ve gone with a pre-pre-prepared, upside gibberish talking point that you read on Twitter or some leftwing website.
You’re quite retarded.
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Not everyone had a Hartley to sell to pay the mortgage, feed the family or a couch big enough to hide in. Getting by each day is hard enough for some people instead of pontificating about it 2 years later. Go get some Adblue and give the KenWorth a polish. The spiderwebs look like they need attending to.
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Yes, yes, because liberals, such as yourself, never use politics to further liberalism. I mean the thought of you doing so never crosses your mind.
The constitutions of Western nations are founded on liberal values, not conservative ones. The historical narrative of the West over the course of centuries has been that we are shifting more and more towards respecting our constitutions and implementing those liberal values more fully, in the face of conservatives who want to retain undemocratic societal structures which benefit them only. The founding fathers of Western countries had some fantastic ideas, some of which took many lifetimes to achieve.
It’s a lot like how Jesus was actually a liberal when you go back and read his stuff, but the Church is extremely conservative. That’s part of why people are deserting the Church. Is that politics? The people are expressing their power, so I guess yes even though technically it’s classed as culture. It’s difficult to separate the two, and really there is not a good reason to do so.
Yes, yes, because liberals, such as yourself, never use politics to further liberalism.
Liberals do both: adjust culture to influence politics and adjust politics influence culture. Both to further their ideology. That’s a big reason why they hate Christians and Jewish people so much. Not only are they rivals to their green-progressive religion but neither are easily adjustable or controllable, since they’re based on the uninfluenceable Bible and Torah.
They also resent that all the most successful countries are based on Christian or Jewish culture, hence the use of country shoppers and Palis (ie. in Israel) to undermine them.
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The cri de coeur of liberalism, especially now, is that whatever you say and/or do to oppose it is an ‘attack on our democracy’: “You oppose governments fining or imprisoning parents that counsel their children against going through with a double mastectomy because their child feels they were born in the wrong body? That is an attack on our democracy!”
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And because they’re nerds who hate the human race and would rather talk to a computer, they have no interest is solving real computer problems for other people — like why there’s no audible alarm system to warn you you’re accidentally typing in capital letters or making it easier to retrieve lost passwords or why I have to know a software program to understand why I can no longer use my most popular get-save address in my email.
They won’t solve those everyday problems because that would cede political power to the normies and decrease our reliance on them. Only psychopaths think like that.
That may be partly true, but a lot of it is just legacy stuff. For instance, starting a computer is like cranking a car used to be. Why isn’t it just on/off like every other appliance?
What gave Apple an edge back in the day was that they eliminated a lot of the unnecessary nerdy stuff. It says a lot about the industry that it took so long for others to catch up.
Recently, I was babysitting (2 cats, a motel and a teenager) and was left with an Apple computer which I wanted to watch something on Youtube on. I have never in my life used an Apple computer, but managed to work it out in a few minutes.
The industry is still much more interested in sexy new apps and all that than the basics. For instance, why does it take so long to restart, like a valve TV warming up? Why is it so hard to identify and delete obsolete crap that is clogging up your hard drive?
And, don’t get me started on Internal Server Errors.
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Dover that is so sick. Those eyes are warning signs. On a positive side in the comments down further we have our best friend Hope this works
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DoverBeach:
I’m tending to DrBG’s position re monty. I’m not finding much evidence of his arguing in good faith.
Monty has never argued in good faith – just like every other Leftist on the planet.
I’m surprised it has taken so long for many of the intellects here to notice.
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From the furniture shop.
Cardimona’s Letters to the Editors.
How is it that every state and national government in the western world is simultaneously doing the exact same things which are all making life worse for the people who elected them? The evidence says they’re puppets, so who are the puppeteers? Curious, Cairns
Wow. On Friday the BoM forecast for Sunday was “90% chance of rain” but on Saturday it is “0% chance of rain” (CP, 3/9). Clouds and rain are significant moderators of the total heat content of the planet but are too complex for even supercomputers to be able to process. Considering BoM can’t accurately forecast two days in advance there’s no chance whatsoever they can forecast the temperature many years in the future. Jeannie, Kurrimine Beach
Climate alarmist “science” is not true science. It is an agglomeration of semantics, sophistry, and logical incompleteness which ignores ontological mathematics. It might sound convincing, but that’s typical for con artists. Happy Phil, Ingham
The Australian Medical Association (CP, 3/9) is the doctors’ union, not a scientific organisation. It has been complicit with the anti-scientific approach to covid promoted by the WHO. It has stood silently by while AHPRA forced doctors to disregard their Hippocratic Oath and their accumulated wisdom and their right to diagnostic autonomy on pain of ridiculously unfair dismissal and ludicrously unsupportable prosecution. What the AMA fails to comprehend is that it does not have the unwarranted legal protections granted to the pharmaceutical companies and that its officers can be sued for damages. Chloe, Kuranda
What’s the point of all the left’s plans to be achieved by 2030 when that’s the year they claim the world ends from climate change? Confused, Cairns
In his creepy-weird WWII-Germany-themed rant against MAGA Republican Americans, Joe Biden never once mentioned China, fentanyl, crime, inflation or the southern border. No wonder #pedohitler was trending number one on Twitter just five hours later, despite Twitter’s best efforts to throttle it with algorithms. GM, Bungalow
One of the greatest journalists to have ever lived, Henry Louis Mencken, said “On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” And that’s where we are, folks. A. Reader, Cairns
Three serious questions for Phillip Musumeci (CP, 3/9). How much electricity does solar produce at night? How much electricity does wind produce when it’s calm? Is electricity a product that you buy when it’s available or a service that you expect when you need it? JS, Edge Hill
“35,000 more skilled workers for Australia” (3/9). This is testament to the abject and embarrassing failure of Australia’s education system. We’re at a point in history where 12 years of school actually makes a person dumber, because they graduate believing things that just aren’t true and without the skills to make them employable. We need to defund state and federal education departments and sell school infrastructure to private companies that are required to compete, without colluding, to provide useful real-world education. Kenny, Cardwell
(TB) Cathy, Kirwan, (TTE, 3/9). Until 2015 the definition of “vaccine” meant it “prevented disease”. Then it changed and from 2015 to 2021 it meant it “produced immunity” to disease. Then in September 2021 it changed again to mean it “produced protection” from a disease. But nobody was told about those two changes and everyone who got the shot believed it would prevent them catching covid. Perhaps it’s you who should get all info before posting, Cathy. Marie, Aitkenvale
Joe Biden has said Republicans are “semi-fascists” and “extremists”. His press secretary has defined “extremists” as anyone who doesn’t agree with the majority. Biden has an approval rating of 39%. Ipso facto, Joe Biden is an extremist. Republican, Cairns
The so-called “Reddicliffe Highway” (3/9) has no chance whatsoever of being built. It would destroy the scenic backdrop of Redlynch and it would put mud in Crystal Cascades for 40 years. Both sides of politics will oppose it. MW, Redlynch
Joe Biden has declared war on more than half America’s citizens from a Hitlerian set. He inverted reality and projected onto his opponents almost everything his own side is actually doing. There has never been a more divisive or dangerous figure in the US presidency. Vonnie, Woree
Dear Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and Instagram. Please ban the NIH for saying ivermectin is an effective covid treatment. You know, like you did to the rest of us for the last two years. Social Media User, Cairns
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Not everyone had a Hartley to sell to pay the mortgage, feed the family or a couch big enough to hide in. Getting by each day is hard enough for some people instead of pontificating about it 2 years later. Go get some Adblue and give the KenWorth a polish. The spiderwebs look like they need attending to.
The mumblings of the embittered.
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And now the only way is to still not obey.
Leaving aside that that wasn’t what was asked – what are The PeOple not going to obey?
Specifically, what do you want them not to obey?
I didn’t get jabbed and as the days go by I meet more and more people who haven’t been jabbed either and they are saying it out loud now
I get this. I really get it. I just have this feeling, though, that a large proportion of what you’re describing here is the result of people warning others, along the lines of:
‘See that bloke over there? The porky one getting out of the Hino? Yep, that one. Walking these streets, with the six-string on his back. Plays for keeps, ‘cos he might not make it back.
‘Anyway, when he starts on you just tell him what he wants to hear.’
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Democracy is not some ideal way of running things. It’s just a mechanism for limiting the awfulness of the usual oligarchies without bloodshed. And oligarchies are not wholly bad. They are a way of limiting the power of the very stupid.
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Why would I be embittered, I didn’t have to sell anything and still not jabbed.
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Tomorrow marks fifty years since Israeli athletes were murdered in cold blood on 6 September 1972 in Munich, Germany.
In memory of…
David Berger
Anton Fliegerbauer
Ze’ev Friedman
Yosef Gutfreund
Eliezer Halfin
Yosef Romano
Amitzur Shapira
Kehat Shorr
Mark Slavin
Andre Spitzer
Yakov Springer
Moshe Weinberg
They were murdered because they were Jews.
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I get this. I really get it. I just have this feeling, though,
And your dad told you that you’d go blind if you didn’t stop feeling it.
Seems you didn’t stop.
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Why would I be embittered, I didn’t have to sell anything and still not jabbed.
You don’t like yourself, Grey ranga.
So you project.
You need to learn to love yourself.
Just not the way KD loves himself.
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Tomorrow marks fifty years since Israeli athletes were murdered in cold blood on 6 September 1972 in Munich, Germany.
Some of them (weightlifters and some others), were also tortured and mutilated.
On the plus side Mossad eventually hunted down the perps.
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I always thought that ‘politics is downstream from culture’ was an attractive catchphrase from someone who grew up in Los Angeles.
I am not convinced. I don’t think it is completely wrong, but nor do I think it is completely right.
The implication is that ‘culture’ comes from somewhere devoid of politics, that is, upstream. This is patently absurd.
Andrew Breitbart was a very admirable chap, but this is not one of his best moments. It just goes to show that the Right are as susceptible as the Left to a catchy slogan.
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Sez it all Johanna. That was my premise the other day about sport. Nobody wants to do the basics, straight into the fancy stuff. It applies to everything.
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Recently, I was babysitting (2 cats, a motel and a teenager) and was left with an Apple computer which I wanted to watch something on Youtube on. I have never in my life used an Apple computer, but managed to work it out in a few minutes.
Apple is intuitive. Office is basically stopping MS from going away, along with Azure.
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Tom on Sky just interviewed Hanson-Young. She made all the usual b/s claims about the climate, plus assertion that fossil fuels are massively subsidised.
Tom had no disagreement with her on any point except one – that the cost of her increased reductions to emissions should be costed.
It’s not just the ABC that’s green-left inclined, it’s pretty much every channel.
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You’ve got your hand on it again, Ken. Go sell some furniture.
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It’s difficult to separate the two, and really there is not a good reason to do so
rolled gold fuckwittery
mUnty puts oil and water in a jar then shakes like fury
all the time chanting, there really isn’t ANY point shaking this jar
…keeps shaking anyway
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The constitutions of Western nations are founded on liberal values, not conservative ones. The historical narrative of the West over the course of centuries has been that we are shifting more and more towards respecting our constitutions and implementing those liberal values more fully, in the face of conservatives who want to retain undemocratic societal structures which benefit them only. The founding fathers of Western countries had some fantastic ideas, some of which took many lifetimes to achieve.
Dear oh dear. You’re basically saying that culture is downstream of politics here, monty. If these liberal values (ideas) were already part of the culture, the Constitution (politics) would have no need of implementing them and overturning social structures unconducive to them.
It’s a lot like how Jesus was actually a liberal when you go back and read his stuff,
LOL. And I laugh not because I think Christ was a conservative, but because it is hilarious how liberals seem incapable of encountering a human being, let alone God, without interpreting him/Him within liberal political categories.
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Ukraine’s pitch to Australia: Use our army as your guinea pig
Matthew Knott
By Matthew Knott
September 5, 2022 — 12.05am
Ukraine has launched a bold bid for its army to be used as a “guinea pig” for cutting-edge Australian military technology as it seeks to gain a crucial battlefield advantage over Vladimir Putin’s Russian forces.
With the war raging past its sixth month, Ukraine’s ambassador to Australia, Vasyl Myroshnychenko, is lobbying the Albanese government to send a fleet of 30 newly built light armoured vehicles, known as Hawkeis, to the war zone.
The patrol vehicles – which owe their name to late prime minister Bob Hawke – have been designed and manufactured specially for the Australian Defence Force at defence contractor Thales’ facility in Bendigo, Victoria.
After experiencing technical problems during the construction phase, the four-wheel drive vehicles are not expected to reach full operational capability until next year.
Although they are untested on the battlefield, Myroshnychenko said a fleet of Hawkeis would make a valuable contribution to the war effort on top of the 60 Bushmaster troop carriers Australia has already committed to Ukraine.
“The Hawkeis are really impressive: they’re smaller, they’re faster, they’re nimble and they’re brand new,” Myroshnychenko told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age following a recent visit to the Thales manufacturing plant.
“They’re still in testing mode and are now being introduced into the Australian Defence Force.
“In my mind, we could make use of 30 of those to test them in the battlefield, see how they perform and we’ll provide invaluable feedback to the Australian defence forces for you to improve those vehicles.”
Myroshnychenko said he would present his proposal at an upcoming meeting with Defence Minister Richard Marles, describing the idea as a “win-win” for both countries.
“They help us [in the war] and we help you make them more adaptable to a wartime environment,” he said
Hooked up an Amazon Firestick for the coast house yesterday. It is the first bit of Tech ever encountered that the instructions were perfect. I know it was only simple stuff but still worked without mucking around.
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Apple is computing for dummies. There is heaps of things I can’t do on my iPad that is straightforward on a Windows laptop. iTunes was simply awful. That’s before you get to pricing.
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Some of them (weightlifters and some others), were also tortured and mutilated.
The Israelis offered their counter terrorist units to break that siege – the German’s refused, saying their police were more then capable. Golda Meir made an angry comment to the effect that “All these years, and Jews are still being murdered on German soil…”
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You need to learn to love yourself.
Just not the way KD loves himself.
Greatest comeback/zinger in the history of the interest. The original question still unanswered.
Also, stop telling people what to do. I realise that this is difficult for frustrated leaders of tHe PeOple, but if it was easy everyone could do it.
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I was disappointed when Mossad never took out Yasser Arafat, but I bet they let him know they could’ve if they wanted anytime.
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Chummed hard this morning, this ocean has nothing but bluegills and tommy cods.
Those KD sharks have dead eyes, like a doll’s eyes.
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LOL. And I laugh not because I think Christ was a conservative, but because it is hilarious how liberals seem incapable of encountering a human being, let alone God, without interpreting him/Him within liberal political categories.
” I often think it’s comical,
Fa la la la, Fa la la la
How every boy and every girl
Who’s born into this world alive,
Is either a little Liberal,
Or else a little Conservative.
Fa la, la.”
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Dear oh dear. You’re basically saying that culture is downstream of politics here, monty. If these liberal values (ideas) were already part of the culture, the Constitution (politics) would have no need of implementing them and overturning social structures unconducive to them.
Conservatives fight against liberalism because liberalism undermines their anti-democratic power. This happened before the constitutions were written, and it will go on. Over time, they keep losing, because the founding fathers decided in their wisdom to frame the boundaries of the ongoing struggle between capital and labour so that it didn’t involve guns and guillotines, but rhetoric and representation – and it turns out that society functions better that way.
So yes, culture is in some respects downstream of politics if you want to put it that way, but I wouldn’t use the metaphor of a river to describe the relationship.
Politics is downstream of culture in a democracy.
If you seek to reverse this, you are fighting against democracy.
So death penalty is back on then?
Borders nearly closed as per the peoples wishes (not the partys platform)?
The federal treasurer, Jim Chalmers, has asked the competition watchdog to crack down hard on any price gouging when the petrol excise cut expires at the end of September.
The letter to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, released on Monday, confirms the government’s intention to reintroduce “the full excise” on 29 September. It was halved for six months in the March budget.
Given the government makes more dough of fuel than the servo owners..
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You fat fuckwit.
Be fair, m0nty is trying to produce arguments now. It’s not surprising that they aren’t very good ones, he’s not used to the whole idea.
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M0nty, I explained that oligarchies temper the power of the stupid mob, and democracy tempers the power of the oligarchs.
The worst situation, which we are now in, is when we have stupid oligarchs.
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And oligarchies are not wholly bad.
Yes they are DrB. Oligarchies always recruit from the psychopathic stratum of society, because power hungry people are attracted to the oligarchical party. Think trade unions for example. Unelectable people will join them and then climb the greasy pole of patronage and favours inside the organization to get what they crave.
Thus, with time, all oligarchies fill up with maniacs. Eventually. And these people see the independent thinkers and inventors as threats, and so repress them. They recruit more like themselves, since they know they will go with the flow. This way society stagnates until there’s a revolution, or the nation is swallowed up by another less senescent one which is at an earlier point in the cycle. (Nuclear weapons and technology have pretty much prevented the latter avenue though – which is a big and historically unprecedented macrogeopolitical change.)
The problem with Oz and the US is that despite a democratic system we’ve both become functional oligarchies. The way it happened was through the permanent apparatus of government and education. They’ve become an oligarchy of leftists who are doing exactly what I just said oligarchs do: repress the independent thinkers and any other perceived threats. And they’ve now recruited the political class into the oligarchy too – hence the Libs and Labor being like peas in a pod on almost everything.
This has happened everywhere because of WW2, which tended to reset the cycle globally. That brought it into synch in all countries. And substantially all countries are now oligarchical and fascist or getting that way, from either the Marxist left, like China, or from democratic systems like Oz. (It’s notable that Poland and Hungary are a lot less far down the slippery slope – both having unusually strong Christian ethos. See my previous comment on that.)
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Tomorrow marks fifty years since Israeli athletes were murdered in cold blood on 6 September 1972 in Munich, Germany.
The German news agency dpa and other media reported that Germany increased its offer to the families to around 28 million euros (dollars), up from the initial 10 million euros offer to the families, which would have included the payments already made.
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Immediately after the attack, Germany made payments to relatives of the victims amounting to about 4.19 million marks (about 2 million euros or dollars), according to the country’s interior ministry. In 2002, the surviving relatives received an additional 3 million euros, Germany’s dpa news agency reported.
Oligarchs look at their kids and realize that most of them will be mere millionaires, and their grandkids back to square one.
They then seek to ossify the social order to make sure their kids dont lose their ‘proper’ position in life.
Look at things like the Rockerfellers/Kennedys etc, somehow they end up as permanently wealthy and influential thanks to the cunning of their grandfathers/great grandfathers.
They pervert politics, law and finances to make sure they dont lose out.
“Foundations” should wind up in 50 years, no society can deal with entitled stupid and wealthy people, who, by design, can never suffer for it.
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M0nty, I explained that oligarchies temper the power of the stupid mob, and democracy tempers the power of the oligarchs.
The worst situation, which we are now in, is when we have stupid oligarchs.
I believe H.L. Mencken had a quote about that.
m0ntysays:
September 5, 2022 at 11:53 am
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Conservatives fight against liberalism because liberalism undermines their anti-democratic power. This happened before the constitutions were written, and it will go on. Over time, they keep losing, because the founding fathers decided in their wisdom to frame the boundaries of the ongoing struggle between capital and labour so that it didn’t involve guns and guillotines, but rhetoric and representation – and it turns out that society functions better that way.
Oh no, the Great Self-Beclowner has done it again!
Only weeks after railing against the US Supreme Court for confirming in Dobbs that abortion laws are, under the US Constitution, a matter for democratically elected legislatures, he’s now railing against the boogeyman of the conservatives’ “anti-democratic” power.
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Hooked up an Amazon Firestick
Is that a flame thrower?
Yes they are DrB. Oligarchies always recruit from the psychopathic stratum of society, because power hungry people are attracted to the oligarchical party.
Consider the French revolution. The mob didn’t run things as well as Napoleon. In this case, the oligarchy was an improvement.
I agree with your reasoning by and large, which is why I favour democracies. But the reality is that the West has always been a mixture, and it ran better when the oligarchy was hereditary, for the exact reasons you give.
This is not a popular view.
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“Foundations” should wind up in 50 years…
Or not exist at all.
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it ran better when the oligarchy was hereditary
LOL.
if there is no voting this away, then what? What is your alternate plan for forming a leadership of this country, if not via the ballot box
Only massive civil disobedience ends this ….. Sri Lankan Presidential Palace style disobedience. It only ends when it gets so bad that millions turn out and charge down the guards, and the guards turn and run because they know all they will manage is a 30 round MAG dump then it’s over for them. We in the west are nowhere near that yet, as Adam Smith said ‘there’s a lot of ruin in a nation’ and we are all still way to comfortable in the west.
It has to get a LOT worse before it can get better….
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I believe H.L. Mencken had a quote about that.
Mencken was an astute bloke, but led astray by his sunny optimism.
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Millions of votes for Palmer disappeared
Didn’t Fat Cloive claim to have video EVIDENCES of this?
Where is it?
Why is the notoriously litigous Fat Bastard so coy about putting his REAL EVIDENCES before a JURDGE?
Chile votes overwhelmingly to reject new, progressive constitution
With 96% of the ballots counted, the rejection camp has 62% and the approve team accept defeat in bid to replace Pinochet-era settlement
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It enshrined gender parity across government and other organs of the state – for the first time anywhere in the world – prioritised environmental protection and recognised Chile’s Indigenous peoples for the first time in the country’s history.
The decision to reject a constitution that guaranteed women’s rights and gender parity was made 70 years to the day since women were first given the vote in Chile.
“This is a badly written constitution,” said Carmen Fuentes, 61, who cast her vote in a wealthy north-eastern suburb of Santiago. “There’s been a division in this country for a long time, and this plebiscite won’t change that.”
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it ran better when the oligarchy was hereditary
LOL.
Compare the vitality of Victorian England with present day Oz.
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Consider the French revolution. The mob didn’t run things as well as Napoleon. In this case, the oligarchy was an improvement.
That’s the early phase. It then got reset when they lost the Napoleonic Wars and went from fairly dynamic in the 1850’s to ossified oligarchs again in 1940. Ditto 1950-2020. The Soviet Union went from dynamic in 1920 to ossified in 1980. China from 1950 to 2020 (they’re not quite there yet, but the CCP is clearly ossifying). You can see the pattern: 50-100 years or so. Democracy slows it down but eventually you end up with an oligarchy of stupid oligarchs because stupid oligarchs tend to hang together up until revolutionaries come along and hang all of them together. Like that nice Romanian chap and his wife. Or a Committee of Public Safety with their tumbrils and guillotines.
We now have an oligarchy of stupid people only because all oligarchies end up that way.
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Cohenite:
THE UK’s energy crisis has been in the making for more than 20 years and is the result of the incompetent policies of Mr Blair, Mr Brown, Mr Cameron, Mrs May, and Mr Johnson, and all their hapless energy minsters and advisors too numerous to name.
Investigate and find the people who made a mint out of the scam – all of them. Now hit them with a punitive fine of 75% of their total wealth.
We need to be quite savage about punishing the bastards who have caused this level of wrecking the economy of the West.
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Compare the vitality of Victorian England with present day Oz.
Or present day England. As BoN points out, the takeover of the oligarchy/ ruling class by the power hungry creeps has not improved things.
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. It has stood silently by while AHPRA forced doctors to disregard their Hippocratic Oath and their accumulated wisdom and their right to diagnostic autonomy on pain of ridiculously unfair dismissal and ludicrously unsupportable prosecution.
As did *every* professional medical college, including mine, the college of Anaesthetists, which now offers units on ‘culturally appropriate anaesthesia’ whilst simultaneously whistling past the Nuremberg graveyard.
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Compare the vitality of Victorian England with present day Oz.
If a late twentieth-century person were suddenly to find himself in a tavern or house of the period, he would be literally sick – sick with the smells, sick with the food, sick with the atmosphere around him
Zyconoclastsays:
September 5, 2022 at 12:19 pm
Hooked up an Amazon Firestick
Is that a flame thrower?
Connects TV to wifi to watch internet stuff.
A flamethrower is more fun.
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Disappointing that, as the day of ‘stand or fall if necessary’ draws ever closer, Kenn Guevara seems more interested in throwing around accusations of masturbation.
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That’s the early phase. It then got reset when they lost the Napoleonic Wars and went from fairly dynamic in the 1850’s to ossified oligarchs again in 1940.
Sure. It’s an intrinsically unstable state of affairs. Government grows, centralisation increases, power hungry creeps take over.
Time for a great reset. HoP ASAP.
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Democracy is not some ideal way of running things.
That’s the point …. there isn’t any ideal way of running things – not democracy, not theocracy, not technocracy, not dictatorship.
There is no ‘one size fits all’ which is why our ‘rulers’ (whoever they are) need to have as little power as possible.
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The federal treasurer, Jim Chalmers, has asked the competition watchdog to crack down hard on any price gouging when the petrol excise cut expires at the end of September.
Shirley, if petrol is not a “set price” commodity then what the retailer sells it for is their business not the gummint’s ?.. bit like the Colesworths pricing system .. !
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Sancho Panzersays:
September 5, 2022 at 12:26 pm
Millions of votes for Palmer disappeared
Didn’t Fat Cloive claim to have video EVIDENCES of this?
Where is it?
Why is the notoriously litigous Fat Bastard so coy about putting his REAL EVIDENCES before a JURDGE?
KenWorth is holding it for him, problem being Fat Cloive hasn’t told him its not the real evidence he’s holding.
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It does seem a bit weird for you lot to be eagerly expecting the conservatives to be the ones leading a revolution. That has never happened before. Normally it’s the conservatives whose heads are on pikes in the capital. I am not sure you have got things the right way round.
DrBeauGansays:
September 5, 2022 at 12:29 pm
it ran better when the oligarchy was hereditary
LOL.
Compare the vitality of Victorian England with present day Oz.
At least in 19th century Britain the hereditary oligarchy was recognised and accounted for in the system, so that changes could be made (quite probably for the worse, as you suggest Dr B) till now it’s largely powerless.
In modern times the oligarchy is just as real, and even more psychopathically vicious in protecting its patch. E.g. if it weren’t for Trump, the 2016 US Presidential election would have been between the wife of a former President and the son and brother of former Presidents – and look how the Uniparty elites reacted to that disruption of their comfortable duopoly. And in Britain, in the last two thirds of a century 9 out of 12 Prime Ministers came from Oxford, and whether Truss or Sunak gets up it will be 10 out of 13. In the real world it’s usually not a choice between oligarchy and no oligarchy, it’s just a choice about how the oligarchy is formed.
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Imagine walking into a place chock to the brim with enough written legislation to choke an elephant and thinking..
‘When i get in power Id like to pass some more of this stuff”..
then make your way through the thickets of state and council crap as well.
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Normally it’s the conservatives whose heads are on pikes in the capital. I am not sure you have got things the right way round.
You seem to have an emotional commitment to a set of categories which are obsolete and have been for a generation or more. It’s not about liberals versus conservatives. It’s about power hungry arseholes who love pushing others around versus those of us who want to be left alone. You seem to be searching for a formulation that justifies the power hungry arseholes.
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Anyone with a passing knowledge of the industry knows that petrol stations make feck all on petrol sales and rely on all the other crap they sell to turn a profit.
No doubt Chalmers knows this and is just posturing for the media
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Government grows, centralisation increases, power hungry creeps take over.
Companies are interesting since they have a similar cycle. Especially the larger ones.
They’re dynamic when they’re new. Then, with time, middle-management fills up with guys like Dilbert’s boss. They scratch each others’ backs and recruit more of themselves. After a while the company gets clagged up by this giant wad of mediocre people and loses profitability.
Then a recession comes along, there are massed redundancies, and the layer of clag gets swept away along with all their useless procedures and HR rubbish they’ve accumulated. Whereupon the company regains dynamism. And off the cycle goes again. I’ve been through perhaps three or four of these cycles – they’re maybe a decade in length because that’s roughly the cycle time for recessions.
Unfortunately recessions can be a reset for companies but nothing ever affects the public sector short of a really major war. So the public sector just fills up and fills up and fills up, until like now the education system, Public Service and public utilities are clagged full with a giant thick impenetrable monolith of stupid.
Hence fascism is the natural endpoint: because the monolith then recruits the major companies and their elite management stratum. And the two then cooperate to repress small dynamic companies and individuals, since both are threats to the now oligarchized large companies.
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It’s not about liberals versus conservatives. It’s about power hungry arseholes who love pushing others around versus those of us who want to be left alone.
Mmm hmm, you want to be left alone… so you are agitating for a revolution so that you can depose and dominate the left and prevent them from taking power. You’re a bit all over the place on this one, Bogan. Either you’re a revolutionary or you’re a conservative, it’s binary not a spectrum.
Inspired by Rabz’ live music thread, I revisited a favourite – Status Quo Live at the Electrics.
Da Critics always hated Quo – usually a good sign. They were one of the tightest live bands ever – precise down to the nanosecond. The haters who claimed that what they did was easy and moronic somehow never managed to replicate it (see AC/DC for further references.)
The whole thing is a joy, but at about 54 mins they make their guitars sound like C&W fiddles – have a listen. Amazing.
No wonder there was a Quo Army. These guys delivered to the punters, every time.
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BoN
impenetrable monolith of stupid.
I would vote for a constitutional change that mandated total government spending (all levels) never exceeded X% of GDP.
If?
It’s already started.
4th and 5th generational warfare, not kinetic (guns etc) for the most part, but some of that too.
A guy in Portland walked up to a Republican and shot him point-blank in the heart, for example.
But mostly it is propaganda – gaslighting. Aided and abetted by an MSM and Social(ist) Media consortium that thinks they are part of the elite, that they know better than you plebs.
“Trump is illegitimate!” – “If you don’t accept Biden winning, you’re a threat to democracy!”
“Here’s a bail fund for BLM rioters who burned and killed for months all over the US – please donate.” – “You were waved into the Capitol building by police – solitary confinement for your insurrection!”
“MAGA Republicans are a threat to our democracy!” – “They don’t scare me – they’re a very small minority.”
Joe “we just need your corporeal form” Biden will read whatever they put on the teleprompter – even “(repeat the line)”. A figurehead. A puppet. Watch the blame for everything that goes wrong fall to him – “It was Biden! We had good policies, but Biden was too busy consorting with the Republicans to do it properly and he screwed it all up. This time for sure!”
Think about it.
They can barely keep the lights on in California, yet they want all electric cars inside 20 years – meaning they would need 3 times the electricity they currently need (but don’t have!)
They have been warning of food shortages for months, but press ahead with policy that results in a 90% reduction in agricultural production (Europe and NZ especially).
The “West” are the worst – racist, sexist, mysoginist exploiters! Yet people continue to flock from communist and socialist shitholes to live in the “West” – more than 2 million in the US in the last year alone, that we know of.
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In modern times the oligarchy is just as real, and even more psychopathically vicious in protecting its patch.
Yes indeed. And as Gilbert observes,
“When Wellington thrashed Bonaparte,
As every child can tell,
The house of lords, throughout the war,
Did nothing in particular,
And did it very well.”
The buggers today meddle interminably. With disastrous consequences. The ideal oligarchy is almost powerless, hereditary, and aware of their limitations.
“When noble statesmen did not itch,
To interfere in matters which
They did not understand.”
Ah, the good old days.
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Normally it’s the conservatives whose heads are on pikes in the capital. I am not sure you have got things the right way round.
That’s true Monty, because all revolutions come from the Left. They do so because the Right is heavily based on Christian ethos, which encourages adherence to the law and respect for the authorities. Lefties aren’t so inhibited so they tend to be the ones who do tumbrils.
But once the old ossified oligarchy is cleared out the revolutionaries sort themselves into achievers like Napoleon Bonaparte and his generals – who get to show their stuff. They then become the new conservatives/monarchs/landed gentry.
One difference is when a Christian or Jewish democracy fights a war with oligarchs. The democracy tends to win because of the inherent strengths of democracy – loyalty and encouragement of excellence. So when the Allies beat Germany and Japan they swept away those countries’ systems and restarted the cycle in both with a substantially conservative democratic system instead. Which has now ossifed and degraded back into undemocratic oligarchies in both.
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The only form of Govt. I trust is a ‘ benevolent dictatorship ‘….with me as head of state.
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Either you’re a revolutionary or you’re a conservative, it’s binary not a spectrum.
I’ve never been a conservative. I’m not naturally a revolutionary either, but I’m getting there gradually. I’m getting severely pissed off with loony lefty losers and the imposition of authoritarian idiocy.
I want to be left alone, and if you persist in trying to force me into your collectivist lunacies, it will be your head on the pike. Don’t say that you haven’t been warned.
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flyingduksays:
September 5, 2022 at 10:04 am
It is now up to nearly 1500 excess deaths in the UK and rising in all highly jabbed countries.
Same same here … 22% rise in Australia’s all cause mortality in the last few months (15,000 extra deaths in the last year) … funny I didnt see that on ‘Sunrise’.
the stats clearly show most of these are covid deaths.
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With all of these “electricity use” announcements going out about what type you are dissuaded from using energy, I now know the reason why they wanted to bring in “smart meters” some years ago.
All makes sense now (and they knew this was coming!)
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Morsie says: September 5, 2022 at 12:53 pm
Anyone with a passing knowledge of the industry knows that petrol stations make feck all on petrol sales and rely on all the other crap they sell to turn a profit.
No doubt Chalmers knows this and is just posturing for the media
Morsie, it is likely that Chalmers knows this, but he does not understand it.
Anyone who has actually had a serious conversation with an ALP politician knows they’re far from our best & brightest. Some of them are so dumb you wonder how far they’d rise in a real world.
They are however extremely rat-cunning. (This is not a positive character trait)
(The above is not to be taken as an endorsement of LNP politicians or that LNP may include any best & brightest)
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Conservatives fight against liberalism because liberalism undermines their anti-democratic power.
Either you’re a revolutionary or you’re a conservative, it’s binary not a spectrum.
So
“We should go full-on year-zero, like Pol Pot” == “I’d like a raise in pension relative to cost of living”
Monty, its been said here before, but you’re an idiot.
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Those KD sharks have dead eyes, like a doll’s eyes.
They watch. They wait.
”Either you’re a revolutionary or you’re a conservative, it’s binary not a spectrum.”
That statement is Not true. A person can have conservative Family Ideals or policy and yet have revolutionary policy toward Govt.
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**what time*** (not type!!!)
Any thoughts of heading over to Havana and boring us with your disturbing travelogue about a hooker and her young daughter for weeks on end?
That was creepy.
Googlery level creepy.
Clearance diver-level creepy.
Huey, Dewey, and Louie, all speaking from experience and in unison.
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Anyone who has actually had a serious conversation with an ALP politician knows they’re far from our best & brightest
I give you Plasticchook, Stephen Miles, Cameron Dick.
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“Do we want the state to be smaller? YES.
Do we believe the free market provides the solution to every single problem, including just in time supply chains? NO WE DON’T.
We believe there is something called the national interest. Se believe there is something called security.
We believe in self sufficiency.
The conservative government closed the rough storage facility on the east coast. Our gas storage facility. Why? We didn’t need it. Because the big, global companies had told us just in time supply chains are enough. No. There is a case here for strategic, economic nationalism.
Does that run contrary to lifting the burden of regulation off small people? No it doesn’t. It’s a different economic imperative.
And I bet if Thatcher was alive today she’d say “The hell we are going to sell chip companies, steel companies, to the Chinese”. There is no way Margaret Thatcher, the great Freedmanite, would have done those things, because some things are more important.
So you have a Conservative party with the worst of all worlds. It doesn’t appear to believe in capitalism. In the sense of the small entrepreneur getting on. It doesn’t appear to ever act in the national interest. I mean, what the hell is it”?
-Nigel Farage, 2 September 2023.
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Strategic economic nationalism.
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see AC/DC for further references
Rolling Stone first mentioned AC/DC around 1977/78, when it reviewed their first US album release.
Hated it! From memory, a 300-word gripe about unknown band from Down Under obsessed with their dicks and getting laid. Reviewer predicted they’d vanish into obscurity and stay there.
It does seem a bit weird for you lot to be eagerly expecting the conservatives to be the ones leading a revolution. That has never happened before.
Fatboy, the American revolution was arguably right wing and look how well it went for the period up to Wilson.
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A flamethrower is more fun.
The old man bought himself a flamethrower for Christmas one year. He burnt down a shearing shed trying it out. Somehow he managed to claim it on insurance.
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Disappointing that, as the day of ‘stand or fall if necessary’ draws ever closer, Kenn Guevara seems more interested in throwing around accusations of masturbation.
Easier to recruit people to the cause.
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Fatboy, the American revolution was arguably right wing
Only by contemporary standards. Seen from the pov of king George, the founding fathers were wild eyed lefties.
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Tyranny is a topical government form, given the news last week. Oligarchies may clag up with stupid people but tyrannies can suddenly reset from time to time on their own.
Gorbachev being the example: he obtained sufficient personal power to change direction unilaterally. The oligarchy in the next layer down tried to knock him off but were unsuccessful. Unfortunately though he couldn’t keep the Soviet Union together long enough to clean it up, as the ordinary people were pretty much fed up by then. But he survived the collapse, unlike Ceausescu.
Like him is Deng Xiao Ping, who became strong enough to change China’s direction so substantially it almost became free market capitalist. And a thousand flowers bloomed, since they were now being encouraged, and no longer repressed as threats to the oligarchical Party.
Dunno what will happen in China and Russia now though, they’re back in the oligarchical patronage system albeit with strong national leaders…for now. Unfortunately both strong leaders are a bit too fixated on real estate at present, rather than prosperity and opportunity for the plebs.
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Seen from the pov of king George, the founding fathers were wild eyed lefties.
Or, admittedly, conventional Englishmen standing up for their traditional rights and freedoms against a German bloke.
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I was disappointed when Mossad never took out Yasser Arafat, but I bet they let him know they could’ve if they wanted anytime.
Mossad argued that, if they took out Yasser Arafat, the Palis might replace him with someone who knew what they were doing.
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THE UK’s energy crisis has been in the making for more than 20 years and is the result of the incompetent policies of Mr Blair, Mr Brown, Mr Cameron, Mrs May, and Mr Johnson, and all their hapless energy minsters and advisors too numerous to name.
Investigate and find the people who made a mint out of the scam – all of them. Now hit them with a punitive fine of 75% of their total wealth.
We need to be quite savage about punishing the bastards who have caused this level of wrecking the economy of the West.
The policies were not incompetent. They were deliberate and corrupt.
They were not just making a personal profit, that was a bonus.
The aim was the destruction of civilization.
75% fine of their wealth is too kind.
Salting their DNA present and future.
Then salting the earth where their DNA is located might be just about right.
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Jab jab booster…………..not for me.
Regular use of ivermectin led to a 100% reduction in hospitalisation rate, a 92% reduction in mortality rate and an 86% reduction in the risk of dying from a COVID-19 infection when compared to non-users, a major new study has found.
The study, published in the medical journal Cureus, analysed data from 223,128 people from the city of Itajaí in Brazil and is the largest study of its kind, giving its findings a high degree of certainty. Senior author Dr. Flavio A. Cadegiani wrote on Twitter: “An observational study with the size and level of analysis as ours is hardly achieved and infeasible to be conducted as a randomised clinical trial. Conclusions are hard to be refuted. Data is data, regardless of your beliefs.”
It does seem a bit weird for you lot to be eagerly expecting the conservatives to be the ones leading a revolution. That has never happened before.
What about the Glorious Revolution of 1688? It was about protecting the established liberties of the English people against executive government overreach.
Come to think of it, so was the Barons’ Rebellion in 1215.
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Eyrie says: September 5, 2022 at 1:19 pm
Anyone who has actually had a serious conversation with an ALP politician knows they’re far from our best & brightest
I give you Plasticchook, Stephen Miles, Cameron Dick.
Having spent some social time with most of the Qld cabinet & govt at one time or another, I can state with some authority that of that bunch, Stephen Miles is one of the smartest.
I am not making this up. (Yes, he is every bit as dense as he seems on TV)
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Deng Xiao Ping, who became strong enough to change China’s direction so substantially it almost became free market capitalist.
The key word there is almost. Deng didn’t feel kindly towards the student freedom lovers in Tian Anmen square. Mind, I wouldn’t have either. They were idealists and consequently scatty.
I agree with your analysis of the dynamics, but sufficiently advanced oligarchy is indistinguishable from torpor. It kills itself.
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What about the Glorious Revolution of 1688? It was about protecting the established liberties of the English people against executive government overreach.
And the most successful revolution ever. It was organised by businessmen rather than idealists, which may have been why it worked.
Melbourne Uni course & certificate in How To Run Aboriginal Welcome Ceremony
Michael Smith News – cost you $990, takes six weeks.
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flyingduk says:
September 5, 2022 at 12:38 pm
Democracy is not some ideal way of running things.
That’s the point …. there isn’t any ideal way of running things – not democracy, not theocracy, not technocracy, not dictatorship.
There is no ‘one size fits all’ which is why our ‘rulers’ (whoever they are) need to have as little power as possible
Sortition
Recall elections
Subsidiarity
Confederalism
Jury nullification
Term limits
Sunset clauses on all legislation
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Btw – don’t let Australian leftards tell you Eureka was a working man revolution.
It was a small business revolution, lead by monarchist and conservative, Lalor.
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To subvert the dominant paradigm – that is, to subvert Western society’s current political architecture – liberals realised that could not be achieved by argument as most people are happy living in a wealthy democracy.
So they became nihilists devoted to destroying whatever is left standing to hurry up the revolution.
That wasn’t enough, either. So liberals have finally become fascists – just like all those who have tried and failed through history to create utopia on earth via communism and socialism.
Which is why people who still call themselves liberals are campaigning to end free speech and the free flow of ideas on social media – while denying they’re fascists who hate freedom.
Now the fascists who call themselves liberals are among our ruling class after 77 years of subversion of our society by those who hate our freedom, its free market and its democracy.
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Professor
The American revolution was not a totalitarian revolution and in fact it was anti-totalitarian.
Defining the founders as wide eyed leftwing is plainly stupid.
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‘culturally appropriate anaesthesia’ …. hmmm… does this mean some patients are put ‘out to it’ by using a Nulla-Nulla to clout them – bluddee hard – across the noggin?
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The ideal oligarchy is almost powerless, hereditary, and aware of their limitations.
… and so not an oligarchy at all.
Dai Le, member for Fowler (knocked off Nobody’s girl) off to a good start. Proudly Australian. Good on her.
.. wearing an ao dai – a traditional Vietnamese dress – decorated with the Australian flag.
Le spoke of her gratitude at being welcomed into the country as a child, and to those who helped her family embrace Australian culture.
“This migration story belongs to all of us.”
But she also lashed the onerous rules her community was placed under during the 2021 lockdown.
“We weren’t allowed to travel beyond the five-kilometre radius from our homes. We were told to get travel permits. We were forced to get tested every three days. Every day, we had helicopters flying around our area [along with] police on horseback.
“The last time I looked, a government that takes away individuals’ freedom to choose how they want to live, work and raise families was called a communist dictatorship.”
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Also, Napoleon was not a better deal .
Consider the French revolution. The mob didn’t run things as well as Napoleon. In this case, the oligarchy was an improvement.
You idiot.
Estimated deaths in Napoleonic wars:
Civilian deaths are impossible to accurately estimate. While military deaths are invariably put at between 2.5 million and 3.5 million, civilian death tolls vary from 750,000 to 3 million. Thus estimates of total dead, both military and civilian, range from 3,250,000 to 6,500,000.
Estimate death count during the French Revolution.
How many deaths were caused by the French Revolution?
40,000 people
Led by Maximillian Robespierre, the Committee on Public Safety enacted a series of decrees that established a system of Terror, enforced by the state, in an effort to root out counter-revolutionaries and save the new Republic from itself. Under this system, at least 40,000 people were killed.
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Oh – ABC, hundreds of political reporters — nothing on Dai Le.
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The American revolution
Does not qualify, as Dr Bourgeois has pointed out. And yes, compared to the English monarchy, the US Constitution was extremely liberal.
What about the Glorious Revolution of 1688?
Well look, if you as an Australian (or Yank) want to exchange an English head of state with a Dutch one, I am not sure that is going to advance liberal values.
What followed in the Vendée was a campaign of recriminations that bordered on genocide. Under the direction of représentants en mission from Paris, Republican forces began slaughtering Vendean royalists, irrespective of their age, gender or activities.
The National Convention, having already sanctioned the Reign of Terror, authorised the formation of 12 army divisions called the Colonnes Infernales (‘Infernal Columns’). Under the command of General Louis Marie Turreau, these columns swept through the Vendée in the first half of 1794. They crisscrossed the province, tearing down buildings, burning crops and leaving death and destruction in their wake.
The instruments of the Terror were then focussed on the Vendée, where more than 6,000 people – including 400 children – were executed. Some were guillotined but most were shot, stabbed, bayoneted or forcibly drowned. Farms, crops and forests were burned across the Vendée, affecting the innocent as well as the rebels.
Action against the potentially rebellious residents of the Vendée would continue as late as 1796.
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Gladden Pappin
@gjpappin
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4h
???
Chile has *decisively* rejected the proposal for an insane new constitution,
which would have enshrined an unlimited right to abortion as well as euthanasia, dismantled parental educational rights, given all prisoners a right to vote & much else besides.
Tough day for liberals today. Do not lose the opportunity to rub their noses in it and to heap more coals on them in future.
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Also, Napoleon was not a better deal .
Initially, he was much better. It all went wrong later, but that’s progress for you.
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m0ntysays:
September 5, 2022 at 12:41 pm
It does seem a bit weird for you lot to be eagerly expecting the conservatives to be the ones leading a revolution. That has never happened before. Normally it’s the conservatives whose heads are on pikes in the capital. I am not sure you have got things the right way round.
Timothy Neilsonsays:
September 5, 2022 at 1:49 pm
…
What about the Glorious Revolution of 1688? …
m0ntysays:
September 5, 2022 at 2:07 pm
…
Well look, if you as an Australian (or Yank) want to exchange an English head of state with a Dutch one, I am not sure that is going to advance liberal values.
Poor old self-beclowner. It’s desperately sad.
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Well look, if you as an Australian (or Yank) want to exchange an English head of state with a Dutch one, I am not sure that is going to advance liberal values.
The Brits took king Billy on terms. Like, he’d be in charge as long as he didn’t tell ppl what to do.
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The Brits took king Billy on terms. Like, he’d be in charge as long as he didn’t tell ppl what to do.
Which was once upon a time what liberal values meant. No longer, alas.
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Initially, he was much better. It all went wrong later, but that’s progress for you.
Initially. Lol
Initially, Adolf was Time Man Of The Year.
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Monty forgets about free helicopter rides.
As a system of government and institutional refreshment it does have some pedigree.
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Initially, Adolf was Time Man Of The Year.
I never cared for him myself. He shouted too much.
it’s binary not a spectrum.
wow … a false dichotomy dressed up as a straw-man
just repeating the words of others he sounds idiotic
the more he tries using his own words the more idiotic he sounds
vacuous gibber
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Initially, Adolf was Time Man Of The Year.
One good thing about him.
He killed Hitler.
If Adolph had popped his clogs in about 1937 he might have been remembered as a great statesman. (the suffering of the Jews around then written off as “collateral damage)
More likely the awful economic policies would have seen it all go to crap by about 1940 anyway. (without a war)
duncanm says: September 5, 2022 at 2:03 pm
Dai Le, member for Fowler (knocked off Nobody’s girl) off to a good start. Proudly Australian. Good on her.
She must have given a powerful & sage speech, coz left wingers are hating on her bigtime in social media.
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And yes, compared to the English monarchy, the US Constitution was extremely liberal.
Ill-conceived comparison, you’d compare the Monarch to the President, not the Constitution. More apt, English law, for instance, was more liberal re adultery, for example, than US law.
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Stabbing spree in Canada (Saskatchewan) Ten dead, a dozen sliced up but still alive.
Knife licencing … now.
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I never cared for [Adolph Hitler] myself. He shouted too much.
Just like Joe Biden — though poor, befuddled Joe could never be Hitler. That’s just the projection of his fascist speech writers.
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Wow. Rolls Royce – at its Goodwood car plant in southern England – has a Manager of Bespoke to oversee the owner’s customisation of each car sold – as you would expect for units that wind up in Australian showrooms for $A720,000 to $1.11 million each.
The American revolution
Does not qualify, as Dr Bourgeois has pointed out. And yes, compared to the English monarchy, the US Constitution was extremely liberal.
Trust you to fuck it up, you donut gulping imbecile.
As the professor was told, the American revolution was anti-totalitarian first and foremost. To codify it some modern day qualifying context is stupid.
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The wails of my family’s cries still haunt me’: Kumanjayi Walker’s cousin tells inquest
Matt Cunningham
Sky News Correspondent
20 minutes ago September 5, 2022
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Community members have told an inquest they were terrified as they waited outside a police station on the night a police officer shot a man dead in a remote Indigenous community.
On the first day of the coronial inquest into the death of Kumanjayi Walker, his cousin, Samara Fernandez-Brown said his family was still traumatised by his death in Yuendumu on November 9, 2019.
“The wails of my family’s cries still haunt me,” she told Coroner Elizabeth Armitage.
“The images of devastation, of pain, and most importantly the fear.”
Constable Zachary Rolfe shot Walker dead during a botched arrest attempt, after Walker stabbed the police officer in the shoulder with a pair of surgical scissors.
In March, Constable Rolfe, 30, was found not guilty of all charges relating to the shooting, including one of murder.
After he was shot, Walker was taken to the Yuendumu Police Station where officers including Constable Rolfe performed first aid.
But Walker’s family and other community members were locked out of the building.
“In the dark we waited, pleaded for answers and begged for the smallest amounts of information and we got nothing,” Ms Fernandez-Brown said.
“Kumanjayi died in Yuendumu that night. He was 19 years old.
“I imagine he was in pain, he was scared and he was robbed of comfort.
“His family gathered only metres away from him yet we were all robbed of the opportunity to say goodbye.
“I can’t imagine any circumstance where this was acceptable or excusable.”
Ms Fernandez-Brown said since his death, Walker’s life had been picked apart by people who did not know him.
She asked Ms Armitage to “give us the truth, not a sample of the truth or what you want us to hear”.
“We are past the point of asking for change, we have an opportunity before us to action change,” she said.
Warlpiri elder Ned Jampijinpa Hargraves repeated calls for police to be banned from carrying guns in remote Indigenous communities.
But he said the community wanted to work with the police.
“We want the police,” he said.
“We love the police because they uphold the law. We want them there and we want to be able to work together.”
But he said some police were “stupid”.
“They don’t want to listen to you and me,” he said.
“Somewhere along the line we need to find that answer. We must work together to make it a community that is safe for our children to live.”
Another elder, Robin Japanangka Granites, said the Warlpiri were still haunted by the 1928 Coniston massacre.
“For us to move forward there cannot be another injustice,” he told the inquest.
“We know what’s best for Warlpiri people. We witnessed what happened to Kumanjayi.
“Our parents witnessed the last massacre of Aboriginal people in Australia.
“Let’s have the courage to answer these serious questions about how Kumanjayi passed. We have nothing to hide. All we have is our truth.”
In her opening address, Ms Armitage said the inquest would “look a little deeper” into the shooting than Constable Rolfe’s murder trial.
Dickless wrote this:
The constitutions of Western nations are founded on liberal values, not conservative ones. The historical narrative of the West over the course of centuries has been that we are shifting more and more towards respecting our constitutions and implementing those liberal values more fully, in the face of conservatives who want to retain undemocratic societal structures which benefit them only.
This is classic projection. The left, who always classify themselves with some noble, grand terminology such as liberal, project their inherent and fundamental illiberalism onto their opponents. The reason, as I have said, is psychologically basic. They are empty people who compensate by feeling superior. To prove their superiority they invent issues, like AGW or wokeism, which no matter how destructive, they pursue to demonstrate their sense of superiority. The inevitable consequence, every time, is increased authoritarianism in society as the left entrench power because their issues are false, their superiority is grotesquely wrong and the only way they can ensure their sense of superiority is enabled is through tyranny.
Conservatism, the preservation of tried and tested values in a democratic, individual rights based society, is anathema to leftie because they don’t believe individuals should have equal rights. In fact their scorn for others not like them and who do not pay the requisite adulation, is misanthropic. They are blighted people, the third generation who squander the inheritance. And they have no dicks.
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She must have given a powerful & sage speech, coz left wingers are hating on her bigtime in social media.
I worked with an English dude whose father was CEO of Rollers aircraft engine. The dude worked in the interest rate swap department and lost the bank 100 mill. Shit happens I guess. Lost touch.
You know, I only feel safe with a Roller engine, then GE and finally Pratt.
Just wondering if any military history people can help me. I’ve had a pic of my GGFather in uniform, my Mum tells me he served in the Boer War, I’ve looked everywhere but it seems that the records of that war for Australian soldiers is fairly incomplete. I was wondering if I sent the pic someone may be able to identify the uniform and confirm if it’s a Boer War style or something else. If you have the time and energy ask Dover to contact me. Thanks
Conservatism, the preservation of tried and tested values in a democratic, individual rights based society, is anathema to leftie because they don’t believe individuals should have equal rights.
Cronkite, conservatism is just another form of leftism as it’s really about control of people’s lives. If libertarianism is too extreme then move towards classic liberalism. You’ll feel more comfortable there.
duncanm says:
September 5, 2022 at 2:03 pm
Dai Le, member for Fowler (knocked off Nobody’s girl) off to a good start. Proudly Australian. Good on her.
.. wearing an ao dai – a traditional Vietnamese dress – decorated with the Australian flag.
Le spoke of her gratitude at being welcomed into the country as a child, and to those who helped her family embrace Australian culture.
“This migration story belongs to all of us.”
Lots of tonguebathing stories in the MSM about the white, upper middle class Teals. But, nobody is interested in Dai Le. So much for ‘diversity.’
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dover0beachsays:
September 5, 2022 at 10:55 am
Politics is downstream of culture in a democracy.
If you seek to reverse this, you are fighting against democracy.
Yes, yes, because liberals, such as yourself, never use politics to further liberalism. I mean the thought of you doing so never crosses your mind.
It’s “democracy” when m0nty-fa’s side does it, even if the masses don’t want it, and object.
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Initially, Adolf was Time Man Of The Year
Not defending either party, but the MotY is someone who “for better or for worse… has done the most to influence the events of the year”. AH (1938)would certainly meet that criteria , especially the “worse”, Stalin (1939), same. In 1936 Wallis Simpson won it, 1937 it was Kai-Sheks.
Sure, it was about who was most influential. However, the crap accompanying the choice was actually complementary and hopeful.
My comment was a counter to someone’s stupid comment that the Nap was better value than Robespierre’s abortion. He then came back with a qualifier and the Time comment was a counter to that swill.
Lots of tonguebathing stories in the MSM about the white, upper middle class Teals. But, nobody is interested in Dai Le. So much for ‘diversity.’
no complaints about being a refugee – she’s proud of it, and knows she won the jackpot coming to Oz.
This is a heartwarming sight. What a magnificent outfit!
Dai Le defeated Kristina Keneally for the seat of Fowler in southwest Sydney
Won as independent after ALP parachuted ex-NSW premier 70km from rich area
Maiden speech recalled how she fled the Fall of Saigon as a seven-year-old
Compared western Sydney’s harsh lockdown to the communist dictatorship
Also took swipe at Ms Keneally saying Fowler needed a local to represent it
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thefrollickingmolesays:
September 5, 2022 at 11:53 am
Politics is downstream of culture in a democracy.
If you seek to reverse this, you are fighting against democracy.
So death penalty is back on then?
Borders nearly closed as per the peoples wishes (not the partys platform)?
etc etc..
You fat fuckwit.
You have to understand the m0nty-fa fascist version of “democracy”.
If the people want something that “lefty liberals” like, that is “democracy”.
If the people want something that “lefty liberals” don’t like, that is “cheap populism”.
m0ntysays:
September 5, 2022 at 12:41 pm
It does seem a bit weird for you lot to be eagerly expecting the conservatives to be the ones leading a revolution. That has never happened before. Normally it’s the conservatives whose heads are on pikes in the capital. I am not sure you have got things the right way round.
m0nty-fa really, really, does not understand, though he boasted about it on the Old Cat.
He and his ilk are now the conservatives, defending the reactionary establishment. Those who used to be conservatives are now the revolutionaries, coming for him and his ilk with the pikes.
m0nty-fa, running dog lackey of the reactionary, oligarchic, establishment. Fascist pig!
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You know, I only feel safe with a Roller engine, then GE and finally Pratt.
Correct, JC. Pratt & Whitney are the turkeys of the aero engine business, with comparatively poor reliability. Buying them costs airlines money because of the reliability problems.
Cronkite, conservatism is just another form of leftism as it’s really about control of people’s lives. If libertarianism is too extreme then move towards classic liberalism. You’ll feel more comfortable there.
I thought I defined the terms. The US constitution is a conservative document. To a lessor extent so to is the Australian constitution. The conservative principles are simply those principles which give individual rights to people while preserving the basic structure which can maximise those rights. There’s always some toing and froing. Libertarianism is just an underdeveloped form of conservatism.
Classic liberalism and conservatism have merged in the modern society. The modern liberalism called progressive liberalism is just a lie and appropriation by the likes of the chipmunk and every other leftie.
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Constable Zachary Rolfe shot Walker dead during a botched arrest attempt, after Walker stabbed the police officer in the shoulder with a pair of surgical scissors.
Fixed to
Constable Zachary Rolfe shot Walker dead during a botched murder attempt, by Walker, bringing scissors to a gun fight and stabbing the police officer in the shoulder with a pair of surgical scissors.
Coroners findings: ” Play stupid games, win stupid prizes“
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”Either you’re a revolutionary or you’re a conservative, it’s binary not a spectrum.”
Hmmm. Let’s see. George Washington, conservative or revolutionary? Benjamin Franklin? Thomas Jefferson?
It’s so hard to decide.
m0nty-fa is an idiot.
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Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
September 5, 2022 at 1:45 pm
I was disappointed when Mossad never took out Yasser Arafat, but I bet they let him know they could’ve if they wanted anytime.
…..
Mossad argued that, if they took out Yasser Arafat, the Palis might replace him with someone who knew what they were doing.
I don’t think Mossad telegraphed much of their planning or the reasoning behind it.
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CNN employees are “freaked out” the company’s new CEO Chris Licht is orchestrating a “purge” of left-wing staff after Brian Stelter and John Harwood announced their abrupt departures, according to the Washington Post.
They’ve always got the option of… y’know… producing shows that have …. actual ratings.
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Yo! Triggered snowflakes at CNN: Produce shows that people want to watch!
You’ll be amazed at how effective this is.
Follow me for more little-known tricks on how keep a job.
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JC
40,000 people
Led by Maximillian Robespierre, the Committee on Public Safety enacted a series of decrees that established a system of Terror, enforced by the state, in an effort to root out counter-revolutionaries and save the new Republic from itself. Under this system, at least 40,000 people were killed.
Does that include the Vendée rebels?
want to exchange an English head of state with a Dutch one, I am not sure that is going to advance liberal values.
What has m0nty-fa got against the Dutch? johanna, get stuck into the fool!
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mole
Snap on the Vendée.
The word ‘conservative’ means different things to different ppl. To those who apply the term to themselves, it means a preference for the tried and true to the untried. To those who don’t, it means stodgy old fart. Likewise the term ‘liberal’. When applied to oneself it means generous and tolerant, when applied to others it means feckless and irresponsible.
We can’t debate the relative merits of liberalism and conservativism until we agree on what the words mean.
This is so obvious that it should go without saying, but the usual suspects have been changing the meanings of words for a while now. And are dumb enough to think we won’t notice. It severely hampers their own mentation.
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Does that include the Vendée rebels?
Add another 50k to the 40k Max & Co. killed off. 🙂
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sfwsays:
September 5, 2022 at 2:53 pm
Just wondering if any military history people can help me. I’ve had a pic of my GGFather in uniform, my Mum tells me he served in the Boer War, I’ve looked everywhere but it seems that the records of that war for Australian soldiers is fairly incomplete.
Most of the Boer War contingents were from the separate colonies, so you need to look in the relevant State Archives.
Try the Infantry Museum in Singleton about the uniforms, IIRC, they have a collection, as might the AWM.
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I think you’ve “mentated” enough.
I don’t think Mossad telegraphed much of their planning or the reasoning behind it.
It was a remark made after Arafat died, and the Israelis were accused of his murder.
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JC earlier.
You know, I only feel safe with a Roller engine, then GE and finally Pratt.
Really?
They’ve got an eagle sticker on them.
But let’s wait for Eyrie Eagle’s final call on that one.
Constable Zachary Rolfe shot Walker dead during a botched arrest attempt, after Walker stabbed the police officer in the shoulder with a pair of surgical scissors.
Instead of the expense of an enquiry why didn’t they issue a statement that not breaking the law doesn’t carry the same consequences as breaking the law .. period!
Another 251s ‘suck-up” if Taylor had of been white it would have been just another plod doing his job day .. FFS!
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Explain Sanchez. Rollers are out of vogue now.
Where’s the *horticultural aviator to help us understand why.
*Chauncey Gardener
Just wondering if any military history people can help me. I’ve had a pic of my GGFather in uniform, my Mum tells me he served in the Boer War, I’ve looked everywhere but it seems that the records of that war for Australian soldiers is fairly incomplete.
There’s a Boer War Memorial Society in Western Australia – is there an equivalent in your home State?
In the aluminum industry, closing a smelter is an agonizing decision. Once power is cut and the production “pots” settle back to room temperature, it can take many months and tens of millions of dollars to bring them back online.
Yet Norsk Hydro ASA is preparing this month to do exactly that at a huge plant in Slovakia. And it’s not the only one — European production has dropped to the lowest levels since the 1970s and industry insiders say the escalating energy crisis is now threatening to create an extinction event across large swathes of the region’s aluminum production.
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Warlpiri elder Ned Jampijinpa Hargraves repeated calls for police to be banned from carrying guns in remote Indigenous communities.
Cops are supposed to be threatened with axes and knives, and stand defenseless?
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You’re very snarky today head prefect; do you want a cuddle.
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Seems Zachary Rolfe’s ex fiance is on the witness list for the inquest, with a large bucket of sh!t, close handy.
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Cops are supposed to be threatened with axes and knives, and stand defenseless?
They too can carry axes and knives. Fair’s fair.
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Also due to give evidence is Const Rolfe’s former fiancee, ex-cop Claudia Campagnaro, who told detectives investigating the shooting in August 2020 she had interviewed a man Constable Rolfe had arrested who “had this massive gash above his head”.
“I can’t say I know for a fact, this is what I’ve been told by Zach himself, that to justify his force he had someone upstairs scratch him for justification of why he used his spray and gave that man the gash on his – above his eye,” she said.
Ms Campagnaro said she had understood Constable Rolfe had been “punching and kicking” the man while he was on the ground.
“Then later when I was at the station, Zach, um, told someone else, and I can’t remember who else was with me, like, secretly where the cameras weren’t looking at work, that he had had someone scratch him,” she said.
“Someone upstairs had scratched him for him so he could say in his use of force, that that was why he had given him that gash on his forehead.”
Ms Campagnaro also told the detectives Constable Rolfe “loved arresting people”.
“He was active, like he was good in that sense I suppose,” she said.
“But he didn’t care about or like any of the Indigenous people there and, um, I know this because he told me, um, that a lot of his unjustified forces were just swept away by the senior sergeants that were in charge of him.
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Lysander says:
September 5, 2022 at 1:55 pm
Btw – don’t let Australian leftards tell you Eureka was a working man revolution.
It was a small business revolution, lead by monarchist and conservative, Lalor.
It was a tax revolt seeking the rule of law.
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“Dai Le, member for Fowler (knocked off Nobody’s girl) off to a good start. Proudly Australian. Good on her.
.. wearing an ao dai – a traditional Vietnamese dress – decorated with the Australian flag.
Le spoke of her gratitude at being welcomed into the country as a child, and to those who helped her family embrace Australian culture.
“This migration story belongs to all of us.”
But she also lashed the onerous rules her community was placed under during the 2021 lockdown.
“We weren’t allowed to travel beyond the five-kilometre radius from our homes. We were told to get travel permits. We were forced to get tested every three days. Every day, we had helicopters flying around our area [along with] police on horseback.
“The last time I looked, a government that takes away individuals’ freedom to choose how they want to live, work and raise families was called a communist dictatorship.””
You go gal! Can we have a thousand more like Dai Le? Oh and this is the same woman that the eternally stupid effing Liberals of NSW expelled from the party in 2017. And that, ladies and gentlemen, tells you everything you need to know about the joke that is the current Liberal Party of Australia.
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Did the headline writer realise what he wrote?
’If white people were still here, this wouldn’t happen’: the majority-Black town flooded with sewage
Black residents in Centreville, Illinois, say officials ignored their pleas for help for years. Now they’re quarantined in toxic conditions
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Enjoyable reading the thread over breakfast, a Hobbit’s breakfast in fact – luscious, long and varied. Time for a second croissant and damn the consequences!
Liz Truss on her hind legs this morning telling all and sundry that she “has a plan” for energy supply but won’t make it clear until she is elected.
Now where have I heard that before?
In plain English – she’s got nuffink. The quintessential bugwoman.
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‘As far as I’m concerned we’re all Australian people and we shouldn’t be divided along the lines of race.’
Black residents in Centreville, Illinois, say officials ignored their pleas for help for years. Now they’re quarantined in toxic conditions
Who did they vote for, all those years they were making ‘pleas for help’ to officials?
Enjoy the ‘quarantine in toxic conditions’ you halfwits.
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And thank you Mater for reminding us of that atrocity 50 years ago. It shocked me at 16, it still has the power to horrify me all these years later.
The ineptitude of the Germans had to be seen to be believed. It was almost as if they didn’t want to rescue those boys. Fast forward many years to the Lindt café and not a thing was learned.
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Fast forward many years to the Lindt café and not a thing was learned.
Not a bad comparison – Tony Abbott offered the services of Two Commando, but, no, New South Wales Police could do the job…….
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“And thank you Mater for reminding us of that atrocity 50 years ago”
I think it was me calli.
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You should give it a try, JC. Also, try reading some history instead of googling irrelevant numbers.
Fuck off, Professor. Don’t come bawling to me if you make stupid comments and then get caught out. Just to repeat the counter, Napoleon was NOT better than Max’s outfit. You really should shut your trap when you’ve taken the wrong rabbit hole.
Judging from your comment, I know more about the history of the time than you appear to.
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This is our last day of “self guiding” – off to some wineries and a lunch of traditional Croatian delicacies. This gives me a little trepidation – it might be “nose to tail” – but if Cats can bear it, I shall report faithfully any of the more interesting tidbits. 🙂
We meet up with the rest of our small group tonight, all Aussies. Most will be flying in today and probably jetlagged.
Reflecting on comments made by the guide yesterday, I suspect most of the criminality here is at the official level. Definitely where the money is.
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but, no, New South Wales Police could do the job…….
Dai Le defeated Kristina Keneally for the seat of Fowler
Never let this mighty achievement be forgotten. Dai Le has finally killed the mad yank cow’s political career (if it could be dignified with such a term) stone cold dead.
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Napoleon’s excursion into Russia, and even more so his retreat, showed how little he cared for the people of France, or anywhere else for that matter.
Approximately a million dead in total with a pitiful few French returning home, and so many horses killed there was a shortage in Europe for decades.
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Kenny is very good on a number of issues including renewable non-energy and alarmism, but in regard to the Voice and aboriginal constitutional recognition he is fucked in the head. He says this is not about race or division and then says one race should be treated in a special way and wraps it up in cuddly and good intentions. FMD.
As for this bullshit that the 3rd nations were excluded from the constitution until the 1967 referendum it is as wrong as the flora and fauna crap. The question put to the voters in the 1967 referendum was: Do you approve the proposed law for the alteration of the Constitution entitled: “An Act to alter the Constitution so as to omit certain words relating to the people of the Aboriginal race in any state and so that Aboriginals are to be counted in reckoning the population?”
Professor Helen Irving writes:
1. Certain words were omitted
The “certain words” that were omitted were from section 51 (xxvi). Prior to 1967, this section gave the Commonwealth the power to make laws with respect to “[t]he people of any race, other than the aboriginal race in any State, for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws”. This meant that the Commonwealth could not make special laws for the Aboriginal people, except in the Territories. Aborigines were a subject for State laws.
In 1967 the words “other than the aboriginal people in any State” were struck out. As a consequence, the Commonwealth gained the power to make special laws for the Aboriginal people (Native Title laws are an example).
The Constitution, it should be noted, refers only to “special laws”. It is neutral regarding the content of such laws. It does not say anything about whether those laws must be beneficial or adverse.
2. Aboriginals are to be counted
Secondly, following the 1967 referendum, section 127 of the Constitution was removed. This section said: In reckoning the numbers of the people of the Commonwealth, or of a State or other part of the Commonwealth, aboriginal natives shall not be counted.
It is a common myth that the section excluded Aboriginal people from being counted in the census, and that the 1967 referendum meant that they would henceforth be counted. It did not. The Aboriginal people have always been counted, from the very first Commonwealth census in 1911. In fact, census statistics specifically recorded the populations of Aboriginal Australians. “Half-blood” Aborigines were considered to be white and were included in the general census.
The purpose of section 127 (admittedly, not obvious from its words) was to guide the calculation of the numbers of parliamentary representatives per State and also to determine certain State financial entitlements and obligations, based on State populations. When these calculations were made, the numbers of Aboriginal people, as counted, were excluded.
The right to vote
Another common myth is that the 1967 referendum gave the Aboriginal people the right to vote. This is incorrect. The 1967 referendum had nothing to do with this right (or “equal rights” or rights at all).
Aboriginal people were able to vote in all States and in the Commonwealth by 1967. From 1949 they could vote in Commonwealth elections if they were enrolled to vote in NSW, Victoria, South Australia or Tasmania. Indigenous people who had been in military service also had the right to vote. In 1962, all other Aboriginal people became entitled to vote in Commonwealth elections.
At the State level, Aboriginal people were able to vote in South Australia, NSW, Tasmania and Victoria throughout the 20th century. In Western Australia and Queensland they gained the State vote, respectively, in 1962 and 1965.
It should also be noted that the official definition of Aboriginal has changed over time, and voting rights of individuals have therefore changed accordingly. Many Aboriginal people today would not have been excluded from the right to vote under the former laws.
In any case (with the exception of a now-spent transitional provision – section 41), neither eligibility to vote nor the franchise is mentioned in the Constitution. The right to vote is a matter for ordinary legislation. The Constitution did not need to be altered for Aboriginal people to gain the right to vote.
Citizenship
A further common myth is that the 1967 referendum gave citizenship to the Aboriginal people. This is incorrect. Between 1788 and 1949, everyone born in Australia (or any other part of the British Empire) acquired the legal status of “British subject” (“subject” was the term used for British nationality at that time). In 1949, under new legislation every person born in Australia, regardless of race or colour, became simultaneously a British subject and Australian citizen. Subsequent changes in legislation meant that Australians are no longer British subjects.
Eligibility for Australian citizenship has changed over the years. Citizenship laws, however, have never differentiated between Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal persons.
Again, citizenship is not defined in the Constitution. A referendum would not be required to amend the citizenship law.
Sorry Cassie! Mistaken identity strikes again. I blame the colour of your gravatar.
September 50 years ago, I was recovering from a dreadful bout of bronchitis which kept me from school for several weeks. In the end, I was so run down and so far behind in the school work I left to start a job. Looking back, probably the result of the illness and deep depression over what happened at Munich. A fresh start, if you like.
I look at the disruption to young people’s lives over the Covid response and see a mirror to my own experience, this time on a global scale. It helps me to understand the despondency that we are seeing. They are quite different of course, but it doesn’t take much to run a young life off the rails.
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Yes Rosie, but according to the acclaimed Professor.
No biggie, Napster was much better value than Max and Jefferson was a leftwing Democrat.
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Sad, just sad! .. not only is BRADBURY’s career in the doldrums his marriage is lookin’ shaky .. LOL! https://ibb.co/B2Rt4fT
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When these calculations were made, the numbers of Aboriginal people, as counted, were excluded.
At the time the Constitution was drawn up, Western Australia and Queensland still had populations of nomadic Aborigines. The concern was that the population figures would be manipulated to gain extra seats in the Lower House and extra funding from the Commonwealth, hence the omission.
I’ve seen one website, asking the reader “suppose you weren’t thought important enough to be counted in the population” F.M.Dead……
Fuck off, Professor
You should take up Cohenites offer of a hug.
And I’m not a professor, I’m a Beaugan.
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Actually, you’re neither. You’re just a weirdo with outsized pretensions.
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Interesting comments up thread about Apple vs. Microsoft.
I’m on an iPad for travel – easy as. It hooks in to wifi effortlessly and “remembers” all my little foibles. The Beloved is on his laptop – has to go through a series of steps for my one. My daughter uses Apple exclusively for design work – it’s just so much better. Son in law on Microsoft for his IT security team.
I suppose it’s one of those horses for courses things.
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Realize this.
The global (ABC tinged) is reporting on a water crisis in a small town in the USA….
Bloody racist democrats…
Office title Officeholder name Date assumed office Party affiliation
U.S. Senate Illinois
Tammy Duckworth, January 3, 2017, Democratic Party
U.S. Senate Illinois
Dick Durbin, January 3, 1997, Democratic Party
….
The following is a list of the current state executive officials from Illinois:
Office Name Party Date assumed office
Attorney General of Illinois Kwame Raoul Democratic January 15, 2019
Chief of Staff to the Governor of Illinois Anne Caprara Democratic 2019
Governor of Illinois J.B. Pritzker Democratic 2019
Illinois Auditor General Frank J. Mautino Nonpartisan January 1, 2016
Illinois Director of Natural Resources Colleen Callahan Nonpartisan April 12, 2019
Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White Democratic 1999
Illinois Superintendent of Education Carmen Ayala Nonpartisan February 26, 2019
Illinois Treasurer Mike Frerichs Democratic January 12, 2015
Lieutenant Governor of Illinois Juliana Stratton Democratic January 14, 2019
I blame Trump.
Its BLM propaganda spruced up as a major news story, with enough details about whos running the joint omitted on purpose.
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I blame Trump.
He had a rally somewhere on the weekend.
He referred to the Pennsylvania Demonrat senate candidate’s (Fetterman) track suit as “nasty” and said Adam Schiff’s head reminds him of a watermelon. … watermelon head.
Nothing’s changed.
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You should take up Cohenites offer of a hug.
We could have a group hug. But no funny business.
He referred to the Pennsylvania Demonrat senate candidate’s (Fetterman) track suit as “nasty” and said Adam Schiff’s head reminds him of a watermelon. … watermelon head.
I love Trump. Funniest president ever.
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To whoever it was that posted the link to the Soviet Story the other day, thank you.
While I was aware of at least 75% of the content, which is a lot more than your average John, the other 25% had me gasping with surprise. I have found a version with English subtitles which was only uploaded yesterday. I have downloaded it
Did Microsoft really flag CL’s joint as a conduit for misinformation? LOL.
In fairness, having to deal with those morons is a big ask.
Teachers can still not work unjabbed in Queensland at the same rate of pay as the jabbed and overseas and in many areas, the mandates are getting reintroduced.
Only a moron like KD would think this is over.
It is now up to nearly 1500 excess deaths in the UK and rising in all highly jabbed countries.
Where’s choo choo?
The WEF tell us all what they are doing but ask yourself why you don’t want to know.
Because they are making sure you don’t want to know, ……………………..remember having this conversation with people….if you only had a year to live would you want to be told or not told?
KD and all these other fucking loons won’t be flying anywhere soon.
They won’t be able to afford it, and if they could they probably will have used up all their social credit to do so by eating meat.
Covid was the coup.
The takeover.
We are under “boiling frog” communist dictatorship and dumb bastards like KD think it’s all back to normal.
He desperately needs to believe that.
All back to normal?
Denialism and self delusion.
The USA is under communist control.
Full stop.
Milton and a few others here scoff at the disaster that is the USA without contemplating for a second that it’s worse here.
Feel like your vote counts here?
Feel like you have a voice?
The difference here is many here are compliant denialist bunnies, but it’s just as bad, worse.
NZ is way worse than the USA.
The main battlefront is the USA, and it’s the main goal of the communists.
But there is more free speech and the people are still armed.
The globalists (communists) haven’t grasped the beauty of the USA’s decentalised power system.
They haven’t won there so the propaganda is ratcheted up to eleventy.
They know they have us right where they want us.
Thanks jabbed submissive fucks.
MontySoft (MS).
H B Bearsays:
September 5, 2022 at 9:45 am
He also had Steve from Brisbane and Homer piling on to him there, “correcting” his political errors. It seems that having his own side piling on to him for political incorrectness was too much for him to bear.
In fairness, having to deal with those morons is a big ask.
They have been polluting CL’s blog for some time. I sometimes wonder which of them “reported” the blog, something which was clearly done by petty mischief makers.
If so, he should wear it as a badge of honour.
Disagree Tom, Gates got Wozniak to do the original coding to get going on the cheap and has continued to provide poorly functioning software ever since. The closest MS ever got to good software was XP in its final iteration. Even then it was full of rubbish. How many newer versions would have been sold if XP was still going. Mate of mine, long dead, stripped out all the crap and made it something really good but still not as good as Linux. Even me could fix problems with XP which I still have running on an old laptop. For what I do it runs faster on the internet than my PC with W10. Only problem the screen is too small. You are right about Gates being a sociopath and whatever his recently departed wife thought he was doing on Epstein’s Island.
Good read:
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/sogavare-is-playing-australia-for-a-sucker/
(other than reference to “existential threat of climate change”)
Yeah right, hiding in the couch instead of standing at the Cenotaph. That’ll show them. Still sooking. If only everyone did what I told them they wouldn’t have gone to the death camps or had to sell their Hartley boat. Gee I loved that boat. Idjit.
I hope it will be drawn to the attention of the inquest that the staff of the community medical post had been withdrawn for their own safety, and the ambulance that was sent, retreated after being pelted with rocks by the grieving community members?
Same same here … 22% rise in Australia’s all cause mortality in the last few months (15,000 extra deaths in the last year) … funny I didnt see that on ‘Sunrise’.
https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/australias-excess-death-toll-just
Anyone who believes Alaska voted in a democrat has obviously never been there.
You have more of a chance of a teal voting for Paul Hogan.
Especially after the last two years.
But hey, here we are.
WE WILL NEVER VOTE OURSELVES OUT OF THIS…even when we do vote to get out of this.
Millions of votes for Palmer disappeared.
And for Hanson and all the freedom parties and we got MORE LEFTISM.
Really?
Really?
Our voting system is a joke.
Postal voting.
Preferential voting taking weeks and recounted by only the public service in the end…..that’s why they “WAIT” for postal votes.
All the scrutineers have gone home weeks ago.
What utter insulting theatre of the absurd.
Etc.
Think twice before scoffing at the yanks.
Scoffing at those fighting in the exercise yard while you look on from solitary.
He is a menace, and, while he should not be silenced, …
Why not?
If not, bring back Graham Bird as well then.
Monty is thread pollution and we don’t need examples of idiot leftism here, we know what it looks and sounds like.
Dunno what I’ve done now, but….
St. Ruth. You sound like you could do with a week in Bali. You’re allowed to go, you know.
I hear Faulty’s got a Great Prediction chapter there in need of a guest speaker. Plus, you can watch the boats off Kuta Beach.
No cows.
Bring back Numbers…
You should have stood at your Cenotaph….if that is what you did the year before.
Fact.
And are you suggesting that it was only little old me telling you not to get jabbed and kill yourself?
If it was only me, you need to step away from the keyboard and get out more.
If you can’t do that, at least get away from this insular little blog of denialists and look up the Barrington declaration, you fucking Gherkin.
The jabbed are in a death camp.
Where’s choo choo?
The working aged jabbed are falling like flies.
I could link to so many credible sites, statistics and links, which Indolent and others do, and you tube videos from Mark Steyn etc, but you can lead a dumb mule to water………….
You were warned, as I often state, and you were warned by the real experts.
This is not over.
It’s just starting.
Please spell out, in detail, your plan.
Please provide some detail as to how this came to pass. Note: ‘Well what else would you have concluded’, which was your actual response to the Death CaMps non-event isn’t really cutting it.
FMD.
The Big Clivester himself promised REAL EVIDENCES of this staggering apparent vote theft some months back.
Yet to see it. Clearly it’s in the safe and not-at-all-wompus hands of the Hino driver.
The inquest is setting up to be a show trial and limitless investigation of Rolfe’s entire life and career, plus a wide ranging inquiry into police interactions with Aborigines.
Some Coroners love their moment in the spotlight on high profile matters, just like health bureaucrats.
Rolfe’s lawyers have filed a motion to have numerous areas of the proposed fishing expedition struck out, as well they should.
He is fortunate in having a well-off family and his union backing him. An NT copper from a less moneyed background in the same situation might be travelling even less well.
Nice story out of the footy on the weekend.
Pies star Taylor Adams tore muscle off the bone in his groin. Season stuffed and a long long recovery.
His tweet.
Magpie Army I need your help. Following todays game, whilst walking back to the AIA centre. A young girl and her father could see I was flat. The young girl came up to me and offered to hold my hand crossing Swan street, she then gave a massive hug. I would love to find them
That’s what most little girls are and it makes them the loveliest creatures on earth.
Ohhhhhh.
A conceptual death camp. That’s what it was all along, right? Got it.
Ladies and gents, I present the unconditional champion – in a crowded field – of the Goalpost Relocation Awards. An astounding achievement.
*golf clap*
Catturd ™
@catturd2
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The eyes of a psychopath never lie.
I wouldn’t over egg that omelette, Gez.
How many fucking times do you need it spelled out?
Millions of us did it.
It wasn’t a plan.
It was how decent people react to tyranny.
We don’t obey it.
We don’t submit and obey.
Are you trying to suggest the millions who did not obey were following my orders?
I mean wow, who knew this little blog could have such an effect on millions of people.
Or is it that I’m just one of the millions who knew what the right thing to do was, and mentioned it here?
There is right and wrong.
You are trying to dismiss righteous behaviour by attaching it to one individual and then attempting to dismiss the individual.
Good luck with that.
Yep. The replicating metal nanowire people.
KD, you can’t do this by yourself, you need the whole gang here.
And without choo choo going off half cocked, Sancho of the skid mark lying through his teeth, the waters aren’t going to get muddied enough.
Where’s choo choo.
Get him out here.
JC says:
September 5, 2022 at 10:24 am
I wouldn’t over egg that omelette, Gez.
A bit of memory to when my two girls were little made the story stick out.
I shift no goal post, and those camps (which I said will be like concentration camps) are still there.
They haven’t been bulldozed, and until that happens, you can’t claim I was wrong.
This is not over.
Get choo choo.
Extinction rebellion are back:
The truth about Extinction Rebellion
To which I replied:
On another thread I argued myself blue in the face against a self described engineer and uni professor, both AGW cultists. No fact, contradiction of AGW science, or evidence of duplicity by climate scientists or motive by a group pushing this barrow could shake their faith. And faith it is, or a cult. And that is only the beginning of the problem. The real problem is the gutless cowards in power listen to cult pawns like extinction rebellion. Brendon O’Neil wrote a good essay on this:
https://www.facebook.com/dallas.beaufort.71/posts/134592141255063
And this is the problem: people in government who we elect are influenced by these nutters. We see this blight pervading our bureaucracy, schools, universities, MSM and even business because a small bunch of lunatics are given their empty heads; and the end result are policies which are as insane as the lunatics: renewables replacing proven fossil and nuclear energy, economies being decimated and science as a discipline being eroded.
Alarmism should have ended with the Al Gore An Inconvenient Truth Judgment in 2007, It certainly should have ended with Climategate in 2010. But both prove this is not about facts or evidence but belief, money, ideology and frankly insanity.
Politicians who oppose this madness should be supported and the few brave scientists, Plimer, Ridd given every financial and legal support. Because literally we are now at the stage where society is being redefined according to the insanity of a small group of ratbags.
Prof…Bhattacharya of Stanford,……..metal nanowire people to the mentally sick denialist.
No. It wasn’t. You said, really loud: WE WILL NEVER VOTE OURSELVES OUT OF THIS.
If there is no voting this away, then what? What is your alternate plan for forming a leadership of this country, if not via the ballot box? No dissembling, no soapboxing. Put it in a wordwall, as long as it accurately describes just how you would:
1. Have the country run;
2. Who, specifically, would run it; and
3. The checks and balances you would create to prevent just such tYranNy as is present now.
Surely, surely you’re not suggesting a leadership and/or government that isn’t formed through the electoral process in some form.
Are you?
You said you were wrong, which was the only time in recent memory you were right.
GreyRanga, I defer to your greater knowledge of software nerdery.
I couldn’t care less about the subject, except that the nerds have used their autistic mastery of HTML code to gain political power over me and to set the rules for public discussion of ideas via the social media monopolies they control.
And because they’re nerds who hate the human race and would rather talk to a computer, they have no interest is solving real computer problems for other people — like why there’s no audible alarm system to warn you you’re accidentally typing in capital letters or making it easier to retrieve lost passwords or why I have to know a software program to understand why I can no longer use my most popular get-save address in my email.
They won’t solve those everyday problems because that would cede political power to the normies and decrease our reliance on them. Only psychopaths think like that.
There is some truth to this but I also think the there is a con involved here; namely, that politics can do nothing to reverse the direction the culture is going presently, and that the politics of the past is in no way implicated in the culture of the present. I think both of these claims are false, and therefore, that the claim ‘politics is downstream of culture’ is also false. A lot of culture is downstream of politics and a lot can be done politically to reverse the direction of the culture presently.
Yep, just compare the crowds over the weekend in PA, and no other R will get out the vote in Nov like Trump.
Politics is downstream of culture in a democracy.
If you seek to reverse this, you are fighting against democracy.
Anyone really think that politics is not upstream here?
And that politics is unable to reverse this sort of exploitative and predatory conduct?
We won’t vote ourselves out of this BECAUSE so many submitted and complied.
So round one was a complete win for the commos.
Thanks for that, submissive jabbed people.
So now we will not vote our way out.
I would suggest that we never could anyway…..in this country.
But definitely not now.
And now the only way is to still not obey.
I didn’t get jabbed and as the days go by I meet more and more people who haven’t been jabbed either and they are saying it out loud now, as the jabbed go silent.
Some of them have been permanently silenced already.
Already.
Yet the silence from the jabbed is deafening.
No facebook posts with “fully vaxxed” circles around their virtue signalling mug shots.
No wishing death on the unjabbed.
No screaming Karens.
Silence.
It all never happened.
As they drop like flies.
The first battle is lost here, and our captors feel relaxed and are having fun keeping you occupied with jobfests, and voices to parliament.
“Avin’ a larf”
Yet the USA is starting to realise in ever increasing numbers that a globalist/communist coup occurred.
Biden’s language indicates his minders are aware of it, and now they turn to violence.
Classic history.
When the propaganda doesn’t work anymore, what’s left?
Too late to turn back now.
Freedom is to be found in the hearts of men.
So is cowardly submission.
I can’t even repost the Lady Pages on Medium because they’ve gone into overdrive.
I can’t keep up with the crazy.
We must accelerate.
More crazy hair cat lady land whale tales…
Yes, yes, because liberals, such as yourself, never use politics to further liberalism. I mean the thought of you doing so never crosses your mind.
Exactly.
Should we have a vote on the woke agenda?
What about climate change?
We could find out what people really believe……….which is the real culture.
Not the culture of a half a dozen screaming fuckwits in our universities.
The real culture is the one that needs to be silenced and attacked by the undemocratic.
That’s your side doing that Monty.
Have you guys looked into a geek called Falcon? He makes a lot of nice tools to work around MS stupidity. It helped save a list hard drive of mine after upgrading from. Win 8 to Win 10.
Windows 7 was perfect.
Monty, instead of actually reading what Dover Beach wrote at 10.37am, you’ve gone with a pre-pre-prepared, upside gibberish talking point that you read on Twitter or some leftwing website.
You’re quite retarded.
Not everyone had a Hartley to sell to pay the mortgage, feed the family or a couch big enough to hide in. Getting by each day is hard enough for some people instead of pontificating about it 2 years later. Go get some Adblue and give the KenWorth a polish. The spiderwebs look like they need attending to.
The constitutions of Western nations are founded on liberal values, not conservative ones. The historical narrative of the West over the course of centuries has been that we are shifting more and more towards respecting our constitutions and implementing those liberal values more fully, in the face of conservatives who want to retain undemocratic societal structures which benefit them only. The founding fathers of Western countries had some fantastic ideas, some of which took many lifetimes to achieve.
It’s a lot like how Jesus was actually a liberal when you go back and read his stuff, but the Church is extremely conservative. That’s part of why people are deserting the Church. Is that politics? The people are expressing their power, so I guess yes even though technically it’s classed as culture. It’s difficult to separate the two, and really there is not a good reason to do so.
Liberals do both: adjust culture to influence politics and adjust politics influence culture. Both to further their ideology. That’s a big reason why they hate Christians and Jewish people so much. Not only are they rivals to their green-progressive religion but neither are easily adjustable or controllable, since they’re based on the uninfluenceable Bible and Torah.
They also resent that all the most successful countries are based on Christian or Jewish culture, hence the use of country shoppers and Palis (ie. in Israel) to undermine them.
The cri de coeur of liberalism, especially now, is that whatever you say and/or do to oppose it is an ‘attack on our democracy’: “You oppose governments fining or imprisoning parents that counsel their children against going through with a double mastectomy because their child feels they were born in the wrong body? That is an attack on our democracy!”
That may be partly true, but a lot of it is just legacy stuff. For instance, starting a computer is like cranking a car used to be. Why isn’t it just on/off like every other appliance?
What gave Apple an edge back in the day was that they eliminated a lot of the unnecessary nerdy stuff. It says a lot about the industry that it took so long for others to catch up.
Recently, I was babysitting (2 cats, a motel and a teenager) and was left with an Apple computer which I wanted to watch something on Youtube on. I have never in my life used an Apple computer, but managed to work it out in a few minutes.
The industry is still much more interested in sexy new apps and all that than the basics. For instance, why does it take so long to restart, like a valve TV warming up? Why is it so hard to identify and delete obsolete crap that is clogging up your hard drive?
And, don’t get me started on Internal Server Errors.
Dover that is so sick. Those eyes are warning signs. On a positive side in the comments down further we have our best friend Hope this works
DoverBeach:
Monty has never argued in good faith – just like every other Leftist on the planet.
I’m surprised it has taken so long for many of the intellects here to notice.
From the furniture shop.
Cardimona’s Letters to the Editors.
The mumblings of the embittered.
Leaving aside that that wasn’t what was asked – what are The PeOple not going to obey?
Specifically, what do you want them not to obey?
I get this. I really get it. I just have this feeling, though, that a large proportion of what you’re describing here is the result of people warning others, along the lines of:
‘See that bloke over there? The porky one getting out of the Hino? Yep, that one. Walking these streets, with the six-string on his back. Plays for keeps, ‘cos he might not make it back.
‘Anyway, when he starts on you just tell him what he wants to hear.’
Democracy is not some ideal way of running things. It’s just a mechanism for limiting the awfulness of the usual oligarchies without bloodshed. And oligarchies are not wholly bad. They are a way of limiting the power of the very stupid.
Why would I be embittered, I didn’t have to sell anything and still not jabbed.
Tomorrow marks fifty years since Israeli athletes were murdered in cold blood on 6 September 1972 in Munich, Germany.
In memory of…
David Berger
Anton Fliegerbauer
Ze’ev Friedman
Yosef Gutfreund
Eliezer Halfin
Yosef Romano
Amitzur Shapira
Kehat Shorr
Mark Slavin
Andre Spitzer
Yakov Springer
Moshe Weinberg
They were murdered because they were Jews.
And your dad told you that you’d go blind if you didn’t stop feeling it.
Seems you didn’t stop.
You don’t like yourself, Grey ranga.
So you project.
You need to learn to love yourself.
Just not the way KD loves himself.
Some of them (weightlifters and some others), were also tortured and mutilated.
On the plus side Mossad eventually hunted down the perps.
I always thought that ‘politics is downstream from culture’ was an attractive catchphrase from someone who grew up in Los Angeles.
I am not convinced. I don’t think it is completely wrong, but nor do I think it is completely right.
The implication is that ‘culture’ comes from somewhere devoid of politics, that is, upstream. This is patently absurd.
Andrew Breitbart was a very admirable chap, but this is not one of his best moments. It just goes to show that the Right are as susceptible as the Left to a catchy slogan.
Sez it all Johanna. That was my premise the other day about sport. Nobody wants to do the basics, straight into the fancy stuff. It applies to everything.
Apple is intuitive. Office is basically stopping MS from going away, along with Azure.
Tom on Sky just interviewed Hanson-Young. She made all the usual b/s claims about the climate, plus assertion that fossil fuels are massively subsidised.
Tom had no disagreement with her on any point except one – that the cost of her increased reductions to emissions should be costed.
It’s not just the ABC that’s green-left inclined, it’s pretty much every channel.
You’ve got your hand on it again, Ken. Go sell some furniture.
rolled gold fuckwittery
mUnty puts oil and water in a jar then shakes like fury
all the time chanting, there really isn’t ANY point shaking this jar
…keeps shaking anyway
Dear oh dear. You’re basically saying that culture is downstream of politics here, monty. If these liberal values (ideas) were already part of the culture, the Constitution (politics) would have no need of implementing them and overturning social structures unconducive to them.
LOL. And I laugh not because I think Christ was a conservative, but because it is hilarious how liberals seem incapable of encountering a human being, let alone God, without interpreting him/Him within liberal political categories.
Hooked up an Amazon Firestick for the coast house yesterday. It is the first bit of Tech ever encountered that the instructions were perfect. I know it was only simple stuff but still worked without mucking around.
Apple is computing for dummies. There is heaps of things I can’t do on my iPad that is straightforward on a Windows laptop. iTunes was simply awful. That’s before you get to pricing.
The Israelis offered their counter terrorist units to break that siege – the German’s refused, saying their police were more then capable. Golda Meir made an angry comment to the effect that “All these years, and Jews are still being murdered on German soil…”
Greatest comeback/zinger in the history of the interest. The original question still unanswered.
Also, stop telling people what to do. I realise that this is difficult for frustrated leaders of tHe PeOple, but if it was easy everyone could do it.
I was disappointed when Mossad never took out Yasser Arafat, but I bet they let him know they could’ve if they wanted anytime.
Chummed hard this morning, this ocean has nothing but bluegills and tommy cods.
Those KD sharks have dead eyes, like a doll’s eyes.
” I often think it’s comical,
Fa la la la, Fa la la la
How every boy and every girl
Who’s born into this world alive,
Is either a little Liberal,
Or else a little Conservative.
Fa la, la.”
Conservatives fight against liberalism because liberalism undermines their anti-democratic power. This happened before the constitutions were written, and it will go on. Over time, they keep losing, because the founding fathers decided in their wisdom to frame the boundaries of the ongoing struggle between capital and labour so that it didn’t involve guns and guillotines, but rhetoric and representation – and it turns out that society functions better that way.
So yes, culture is in some respects downstream of politics if you want to put it that way, but I wouldn’t use the metaphor of a river to describe the relationship.
Politics is downstream of culture in a democracy.
If you seek to reverse this, you are fighting against democracy.
So death penalty is back on then?
Borders nearly closed as per the peoples wishes (not the partys platform)?
etc etc..
You fat fuckwit.
Is Chalmers referring himself for investigation??
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/05/consumer-watchdog-will-crack-down-on-petrol-price-gouging-when-tax-cut-ends-labor-says
The federal treasurer, Jim Chalmers, has asked the competition watchdog to crack down hard on any price gouging when the petrol excise cut expires at the end of September.
The letter to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, released on Monday, confirms the government’s intention to reintroduce “the full excise” on 29 September. It was halved for six months in the March budget.
Given the government makes more dough of fuel than the servo owners..
Be fair, m0nty is trying to produce arguments now. It’s not surprising that they aren’t very good ones, he’s not used to the whole idea.
M0nty, I explained that oligarchies temper the power of the stupid mob, and democracy tempers the power of the oligarchs.
The worst situation, which we are now in, is when we have stupid oligarchs.
Yes they are DrB. Oligarchies always recruit from the psychopathic stratum of society, because power hungry people are attracted to the oligarchical party. Think trade unions for example. Unelectable people will join them and then climb the greasy pole of patronage and favours inside the organization to get what they crave.
Thus, with time, all oligarchies fill up with maniacs. Eventually. And these people see the independent thinkers and inventors as threats, and so repress them. They recruit more like themselves, since they know they will go with the flow. This way society stagnates until there’s a revolution, or the nation is swallowed up by another less senescent one which is at an earlier point in the cycle. (Nuclear weapons and technology have pretty much prevented the latter avenue though – which is a big and historically unprecedented macrogeopolitical change.)
The problem with Oz and the US is that despite a democratic system we’ve both become functional oligarchies. The way it happened was through the permanent apparatus of government and education. They’ve become an oligarchy of leftists who are doing exactly what I just said oligarchs do: repress the independent thinkers and any other perceived threats. And they’ve now recruited the political class into the oligarchy too – hence the Libs and Labor being like peas in a pod on almost everything.
This has happened everywhere because of WW2, which tended to reset the cycle globally. That brought it into synch in all countries. And substantially all countries are now oligarchical and fascist or getting that way, from either the Marxist left, like China, or from democratic systems like Oz. (It’s notable that Poland and Hungary are a lot less far down the slippery slope – both having unusually strong Christian ethos. See my previous comment on that.)
Tomorrow marks fifty years since Israeli athletes were murdered in cold blood on 6 September 1972 in Munich, Germany.
Earlier this month, the families had threatened to boycott Monday’s 50-year anniversary ceremony in Munich organized by German authorities because they said the amount they had been offered was too low.
The German news agency dpa and other media reported that Germany increased its offer to the families to around 28 million euros (dollars), up from the initial 10 million euros offer to the families, which would have included the payments already made.
…
Immediately after the attack, Germany made payments to relatives of the victims amounting to about 4.19 million marks (about 2 million euros or dollars), according to the country’s interior ministry. In 2002, the surviving relatives received an additional 3 million euros, Germany’s dpa news agency reported.
Oligarchs look at their kids and realize that most of them will be mere millionaires, and their grandkids back to square one.
They then seek to ossify the social order to make sure their kids dont lose their ‘proper’ position in life.
Look at things like the Rockerfellers/Kennedys etc, somehow they end up as permanently wealthy and influential thanks to the cunning of their grandfathers/great grandfathers.
They pervert politics, law and finances to make sure they dont lose out.
“Foundations” should wind up in 50 years, no society can deal with entitled stupid and wealthy people, who, by design, can never suffer for it.
I believe H.L. Mencken had a quote about that.
m0ntysays:
September 5, 2022 at 11:53 am
…
Conservatives fight against liberalism because liberalism undermines their anti-democratic power. This happened before the constitutions were written, and it will go on. Over time, they keep losing, because the founding fathers decided in their wisdom to frame the boundaries of the ongoing struggle between capital and labour so that it didn’t involve guns and guillotines, but rhetoric and representation – and it turns out that society functions better that way.
Oh no, the Great Self-Beclowner has done it again!
Only weeks after railing against the US Supreme Court for confirming in Dobbs that abortion laws are, under the US Constitution, a matter for democratically elected legislatures, he’s now railing against the boogeyman of the conservatives’ “anti-democratic” power.
Hooked up an Amazon Firestick
Is that a flame thrower?
Consider the French revolution. The mob didn’t run things as well as Napoleon. In this case, the oligarchy was an improvement.
I agree with your reasoning by and large, which is why I favour democracies. But the reality is that the West has always been a mixture, and it ran better when the oligarchy was hereditary, for the exact reasons you give.
This is not a popular view.
“Foundations” should wind up in 50 years…
Or not exist at all.
LOL.
Only massive civil disobedience ends this ….. Sri Lankan Presidential Palace style disobedience. It only ends when it gets so bad that millions turn out and charge down the guards, and the guards turn and run because they know all they will manage is a 30 round MAG dump then it’s over for them. We in the west are nowhere near that yet, as Adam Smith said ‘there’s a lot of ruin in a nation’ and we are all still way to comfortable in the west.
It has to get a LOT worse before it can get better….
Mencken was an astute bloke, but led astray by his sunny optimism.
Didn’t Fat Cloive claim to have video EVIDENCES of this?
Where is it?
Why is the notoriously litigous Fat Bastard so coy about putting his REAL EVIDENCES before a JURDGE?
Ask not for whom realty rakes, it rakes for thee.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/05/chile-votes-overwhelmingly-to-reject-new-progressive-constitution
Chile votes overwhelmingly to reject new, progressive constitution
With 96% of the ballots counted, the rejection camp has 62% and the approve team accept defeat in bid to replace Pinochet-era settlement
…..
It enshrined gender parity across government and other organs of the state – for the first time anywhere in the world – prioritised environmental protection and recognised Chile’s Indigenous peoples for the first time in the country’s history.
The decision to reject a constitution that guaranteed women’s rights and gender parity was made 70 years to the day since women were first given the vote in Chile.
“This is a badly written constitution,” said Carmen Fuentes, 61, who cast her vote in a wealthy north-eastern suburb of Santiago. “There’s been a division in this country for a long time, and this plebiscite won’t change that.”
….
Compare the vitality of Victorian England with present day Oz.
That’s the early phase. It then got reset when they lost the Napoleonic Wars and went from fairly dynamic in the 1850’s to ossified oligarchs again in 1940. Ditto 1950-2020. The Soviet Union went from dynamic in 1920 to ossified in 1980. China from 1950 to 2020 (they’re not quite there yet, but the CCP is clearly ossifying). You can see the pattern: 50-100 years or so. Democracy slows it down but eventually you end up with an oligarchy of stupid oligarchs because stupid oligarchs tend to hang together up until revolutionaries come along and hang all of them together. Like that nice Romanian chap and his wife. Or a Committee of Public Safety with their tumbrils and guillotines.
We now have an oligarchy of stupid people only because all oligarchies end up that way.
Cohenite:
Investigate and find the people who made a mint out of the scam – all of them. Now hit them with a punitive fine of 75% of their total wealth.
We need to be quite savage about punishing the bastards who have caused this level of wrecking the economy of the West.
Or present day England. As BoN points out, the takeover of the oligarchy/ ruling class by the power hungry creeps has not improved things.
As did *every* professional medical college, including mine, the college of Anaesthetists, which now offers units on ‘culturally appropriate anaesthesia’ whilst simultaneously whistling past the Nuremberg graveyard.
Mmm hmm. A Mr Dickens would like a word.
Connects TV to wifi to watch internet stuff.
A flamethrower is more fun.
Disappointing that, as the day of ‘stand or fall if necessary’ draws ever closer, Kenn Guevara seems more interested in throwing around accusations of masturbation.
Sure. It’s an intrinsically unstable state of affairs. Government grows, centralisation increases, power hungry creeps take over.
Time for a great reset. HoP ASAP.
That’s the point …. there isn’t any ideal way of running things – not democracy, not theocracy, not technocracy, not dictatorship.
There is no ‘one size fits all’ which is why our ‘rulers’ (whoever they are) need to have as little power as possible.
The federal treasurer, Jim Chalmers, has asked the competition watchdog to crack down hard on any price gouging when the petrol excise cut expires at the end of September.
Shirley, if petrol is not a “set price” commodity then what the retailer sells it for is their business not the gummint’s ?.. bit like the Colesworths pricing system .. !
KenWorth is holding it for him, problem being Fat Cloive hasn’t told him its not the real evidence he’s holding.
It does seem a bit weird for you lot to be eagerly expecting the conservatives to be the ones leading a revolution. That has never happened before. Normally it’s the conservatives whose heads are on pikes in the capital. I am not sure you have got things the right way round.
DrBeauGansays:
September 5, 2022 at 12:29 pm
it ran better when the oligarchy was hereditary
LOL.
Compare the vitality of Victorian England with present day Oz.
At least in 19th century Britain the hereditary oligarchy was recognised and accounted for in the system, so that changes could be made (quite probably for the worse, as you suggest Dr B) till now it’s largely powerless.
In modern times the oligarchy is just as real, and even more psychopathically vicious in protecting its patch. E.g. if it weren’t for Trump, the 2016 US Presidential election would have been between the wife of a former President and the son and brother of former Presidents – and look how the Uniparty elites reacted to that disruption of their comfortable duopoly. And in Britain, in the last two thirds of a century 9 out of 12 Prime Ministers came from Oxford, and whether Truss or Sunak gets up it will be 10 out of 13. In the real world it’s usually not a choice between oligarchy and no oligarchy, it’s just a choice about how the oligarchy is formed.
Imagine walking into a place chock to the brim with enough written legislation to choke an elephant and thinking..
‘When i get in power Id like to pass some more of this stuff”..
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Browse/ByTitle/Acts/InForce/0/0/Principal
then make your way through the thickets of state and council crap as well.
You seem to have an emotional commitment to a set of categories which are obsolete and have been for a generation or more. It’s not about liberals versus conservatives. It’s about power hungry arseholes who love pushing others around versus those of us who want to be left alone. You seem to be searching for a formulation that justifies the power hungry arseholes.
Anyone with a passing knowledge of the industry knows that petrol stations make feck all on petrol sales and rely on all the other crap they sell to turn a profit.
No doubt Chalmers knows this and is just posturing for the media
Companies are interesting since they have a similar cycle. Especially the larger ones.
They’re dynamic when they’re new. Then, with time, middle-management fills up with guys like Dilbert’s boss. They scratch each others’ backs and recruit more of themselves. After a while the company gets clagged up by this giant wad of mediocre people and loses profitability.
Then a recession comes along, there are massed redundancies, and the layer of clag gets swept away along with all their useless procedures and HR rubbish they’ve accumulated. Whereupon the company regains dynamism. And off the cycle goes again. I’ve been through perhaps three or four of these cycles – they’re maybe a decade in length because that’s roughly the cycle time for recessions.
Unfortunately recessions can be a reset for companies but nothing ever affects the public sector short of a really major war. So the public sector just fills up and fills up and fills up, until like now the education system, Public Service and public utilities are clagged full with a giant thick impenetrable monolith of stupid.
Hence fascism is the natural endpoint: because the monolith then recruits the major companies and their elite management stratum. And the two then cooperate to repress small dynamic companies and individuals, since both are threats to the now oligarchized large companies.
Mmm hmm, you want to be left alone… so you are agitating for a revolution so that you can depose and dominate the left and prevent them from taking power. You’re a bit all over the place on this one, Bogan. Either you’re a revolutionary or you’re a conservative, it’s binary not a spectrum.
Inspired by Rabz’ live music thread, I revisited a favourite – Status Quo Live at the Electrics.
Da Critics always hated Quo – usually a good sign. They were one of the tightest live bands ever – precise down to the nanosecond. The haters who claimed that what they did was easy and moronic somehow never managed to replicate it (see AC/DC for further references.)
The whole thing is a joy, but at about 54 mins they make their guitars sound like C&W fiddles – have a listen. Amazing.
No wonder there was a Quo Army. These guys delivered to the punters, every time.
BoN
I would vote for a constitutional change that mandated total government spending (all levels) never exceeded X% of GDP.
Something like 10% should be sufficient. It was about this back in 1960.
“If there is going to be civil war in the US,”
If?
It’s already started.
4th and 5th generational warfare, not kinetic (guns etc) for the most part, but some of that too.
A guy in Portland walked up to a Republican and shot him point-blank in the heart, for example.
But mostly it is propaganda – gaslighting. Aided and abetted by an MSM and Social(ist) Media consortium that thinks they are part of the elite, that they know better than you plebs.
“Trump is illegitimate!” – “If you don’t accept Biden winning, you’re a threat to democracy!”
“Here’s a bail fund for BLM rioters who burned and killed for months all over the US – please donate.” – “You were waved into the Capitol building by police – solitary confinement for your insurrection!”
“MAGA Republicans are a threat to our democracy!” – “They don’t scare me – they’re a very small minority.”
Joe “we just need your corporeal form” Biden will read whatever they put on the teleprompter – even “(repeat the line)”. A figurehead. A puppet. Watch the blame for everything that goes wrong fall to him – “It was Biden! We had good policies, but Biden was too busy consorting with the Republicans to do it properly and he screwed it all up. This time for sure!”
Think about it.
They can barely keep the lights on in California, yet they want all electric cars inside 20 years – meaning they would need 3 times the electricity they currently need (but don’t have!)
They have been warning of food shortages for months, but press ahead with policy that results in a 90% reduction in agricultural production (Europe and NZ especially).
The “West” are the worst – racist, sexist, mysoginist exploiters! Yet people continue to flock from communist and socialist shitholes to live in the “West” – more than 2 million in the US in the last year alone, that we know of.
Yes indeed. And as Gilbert observes,
“When Wellington thrashed Bonaparte,
As every child can tell,
The house of lords, throughout the war,
Did nothing in particular,
And did it very well.”
The buggers today meddle interminably. With disastrous consequences. The ideal oligarchy is almost powerless, hereditary, and aware of their limitations.
“When noble statesmen did not itch,
To interfere in matters which
They did not understand.”
Ah, the good old days.
That’s true Monty, because all revolutions come from the Left. They do so because the Right is heavily based on Christian ethos, which encourages adherence to the law and respect for the authorities. Lefties aren’t so inhibited so they tend to be the ones who do tumbrils.
But once the old ossified oligarchy is cleared out the revolutionaries sort themselves into achievers like Napoleon Bonaparte and his generals – who get to show their stuff. They then become the new conservatives/monarchs/landed gentry.
One difference is when a Christian or Jewish democracy fights a war with oligarchs. The democracy tends to win because of the inherent strengths of democracy – loyalty and encouragement of excellence. So when the Allies beat Germany and Japan they swept away those countries’ systems and restarted the cycle in both with a substantially conservative democratic system instead. Which has now ossifed and degraded back into undemocratic oligarchies in both.
The only form of Govt. I trust is a ‘ benevolent dictatorship ‘….with me as head of state.
I’ve never been a conservative. I’m not naturally a revolutionary either, but I’m getting there gradually. I’m getting severely pissed off with loony lefty losers and the imposition of authoritarian idiocy.
I want to be left alone, and if you persist in trying to force me into your collectivist lunacies, it will be your head on the pike. Don’t say that you haven’t been warned.
that’s pretty disingenuous.
the stats clearly show most of these are covid deaths.
With all of these “electricity use” announcements going out about what type you are dissuaded from using energy, I now know the reason why they wanted to bring in “smart meters” some years ago.
All makes sense now (and they knew this was coming!)
Morsie says: September 5, 2022 at 12:53 pm
Morsie, it is likely that Chalmers knows this, but he does not understand it.
Anyone who has actually had a serious conversation with an ALP politician knows they’re far from our best & brightest. Some of them are so dumb you wonder how far they’d rise in a real world.
They are however extremely rat-cunning. (This is not a positive character trait)
(The above is not to be taken as an endorsement of LNP politicians or that LNP may include any best & brightest)
Let’s check in on Chile overnight:
So
“We should go full-on year-zero, like Pol Pot” == “I’d like a raise in pension relative to cost of living”
Monty, its been said here before, but you’re an idiot.
They watch. They wait.
”Either you’re a revolutionary or you’re a conservative, it’s binary not a spectrum.”
That statement is Not true. A person can have conservative Family Ideals or policy and yet have revolutionary policy toward Govt.
**what time*** (not type!!!)
Huey, Dewey, and Louie, all speaking from experience and in unison.
Anyone who has actually had a serious conversation with an ALP politician knows they’re far from our best & brightest
I give you Plasticchook, Stephen Miles, Cameron Dick.
“Do we want the state to be smaller? YES.
Do we believe the free market provides the solution to every single problem, including just in time supply chains? NO WE DON’T.
We believe there is something called the national interest. Se believe there is something called security.
We believe in self sufficiency.
The conservative government closed the rough storage facility on the east coast. Our gas storage facility. Why? We didn’t need it. Because the big, global companies had told us just in time supply chains are enough. No. There is a case here for strategic, economic nationalism.
Does that run contrary to lifting the burden of regulation off small people? No it doesn’t. It’s a different economic imperative.
And I bet if Thatcher was alive today she’d say “The hell we are going to sell chip companies, steel companies, to the Chinese”. There is no way Margaret Thatcher, the great Freedmanite, would have done those things, because some things are more important.
So you have a Conservative party with the worst of all worlds. It doesn’t appear to believe in capitalism. In the sense of the small entrepreneur getting on. It doesn’t appear to ever act in the national interest. I mean, what the hell is it”?
-Nigel Farage, 2 September 2023.
..
Strategic economic nationalism.
see AC/DC for further references
Rolling Stone first mentioned AC/DC around 1977/78, when it reviewed their first US album release.
Hated it! From memory, a 300-word gripe about unknown band from Down Under obsessed with their dicks and getting laid. Reviewer predicted they’d vanish into obscurity and stay there.
Very funny in retrospect.
2022.
Full Farage interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4AAnzclTsk
Fatboy, the American revolution was arguably right wing and look how well it went for the period up to Wilson.
The old man bought himself a flamethrower for Christmas one year. He burnt down a shearing shed trying it out. Somehow he managed to claim it on insurance.
Easier to recruit people to the cause.
Only by contemporary standards. Seen from the pov of king George, the founding fathers were wild eyed lefties.
Tyranny is a topical government form, given the news last week. Oligarchies may clag up with stupid people but tyrannies can suddenly reset from time to time on their own.
Gorbachev being the example: he obtained sufficient personal power to change direction unilaterally. The oligarchy in the next layer down tried to knock him off but were unsuccessful. Unfortunately though he couldn’t keep the Soviet Union together long enough to clean it up, as the ordinary people were pretty much fed up by then. But he survived the collapse, unlike Ceausescu.
Like him is Deng Xiao Ping, who became strong enough to change China’s direction so substantially it almost became free market capitalist. And a thousand flowers bloomed, since they were now being encouraged, and no longer repressed as threats to the oligarchical Party.
Dunno what will happen in China and Russia now though, they’re back in the oligarchical patronage system albeit with strong national leaders…for now. Unfortunately both strong leaders are a bit too fixated on real estate at present, rather than prosperity and opportunity for the plebs.
Or, admittedly, conventional Englishmen standing up for their traditional rights and freedoms against a German bloke.
Mossad argued that, if they took out Yasser Arafat, the Palis might replace him with someone who knew what they were doing.
THE UK’s energy crisis has been in the making for more than 20 years and is the result of the incompetent policies of Mr Blair, Mr Brown, Mr Cameron, Mrs May, and Mr Johnson, and all their hapless energy minsters and advisors too numerous to name.
Investigate and find the people who made a mint out of the scam – all of them. Now hit them with a punitive fine of 75% of their total wealth.
We need to be quite savage about punishing the bastards who have caused this level of wrecking the economy of the West.
The policies were not incompetent. They were deliberate and corrupt.
They were not just making a personal profit, that was a bonus.
The aim was the destruction of civilization.
75% fine of their wealth is too kind.
Salting their DNA present and future.
Then salting the earth where their DNA is located might be just about right.
Jab jab booster…………..not for me.
Regular use of ivermectin led to a 100% reduction in hospitalisation rate, a 92% reduction in mortality rate and an 86% reduction in the risk of dying from a COVID-19 infection when compared to non-users, a major new study has found.
The study, published in the medical journal Cureus, analysed data from 223,128 people from the city of Itajaí in Brazil and is the largest study of its kind, giving its findings a high degree of certainty. Senior author Dr. Flavio A. Cadegiani wrote on Twitter: “An observational study with the size and level of analysis as ours is hardly achieved and infeasible to be conducted as a randomised clinical trial. Conclusions are hard to be refuted. Data is data, regardless of your beliefs.”
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/09/03/ivermectin-cuts-covid-mortality-by-92-major-study-finds-why-is-it-still-not-approved/
Connects TV to wifi to watch internet stuff.
Thanks
It does seem a bit weird for you lot to be eagerly expecting the conservatives to be the ones leading a revolution. That has never happened before.
What about the Glorious Revolution of 1688? It was about protecting the established liberties of the English people against executive government overreach.
Come to think of it, so was the Barons’ Rebellion in 1215.
Eyrie says: September 5, 2022 at 1:19 pm
Having spent some social time with most of the Qld cabinet & govt at one time or another, I can state with some authority that of that bunch, Stephen Miles is one of the smartest.
I am not making this up. (Yes, he is every bit as dense as he seems on TV)
The key word there is almost. Deng didn’t feel kindly towards the student freedom lovers in Tian Anmen square. Mind, I wouldn’t have either. They were idealists and consequently scatty.
I agree with your analysis of the dynamics, but sufficiently advanced oligarchy is indistinguishable from torpor. It kills itself.
And the most successful revolution ever. It was organised by businessmen rather than idealists, which may have been why it worked.
Footage emerges of monty bowling from the kitchen end.
Michael Smith News – cost you $990, takes six weeks.
Sortition
Recall elections
Subsidiarity
Confederalism
Jury nullification
Term limits
Sunset clauses on all legislation
Btw – don’t let Australian leftards tell you Eureka was a working man revolution.
It was a small business revolution, lead by monarchist and conservative, Lalor.
To subvert the dominant paradigm – that is, to subvert Western society’s current political architecture – liberals realised that could not be achieved by argument as most people are happy living in a wealthy democracy.
So they became nihilists devoted to destroying whatever is left standing to hurry up the revolution.
That wasn’t enough, either. So liberals have finally become fascists – just like all those who have tried and failed through history to create utopia on earth via communism and socialism.
Which is why people who still call themselves liberals are campaigning to end free speech and the free flow of ideas on social media – while denying they’re fascists who hate freedom.
Now the fascists who call themselves liberals are among our ruling class after 77 years of subversion of our society by those who hate our freedom, its free market and its democracy.
Professor
The American revolution was not a totalitarian revolution and in fact it was anti-totalitarian.
Defining the founders as wide eyed leftwing is plainly stupid.
‘culturally appropriate anaesthesia’ …. hmmm… does this mean some patients are put ‘out to it’ by using a Nulla-Nulla to clout them – bluddee hard – across the noggin?
… and so not an oligarchy at all.
Dai Le, member for Fowler (knocked off Nobody’s girl) off to a good start. Proudly Australian. Good on her.
Also, Napoleon was not a better deal .
You idiot.
Estimated deaths in Napoleonic wars:
Estimate death count during the French Revolution.
How many deaths were caused by the French Revolution?
Oh – ABC, hundreds of political reporters — nothing on Dai Le.
Does not qualify, as Dr Bourgeois has pointed out. And yes, compared to the English monarchy, the US Constitution was extremely liberal.
Well look, if you as an Australian (or Yank) want to exchange an English head of state with a Dutch one, I am not sure that is going to advance liberal values.
Vendee massacres
What followed in the Vendée was a campaign of recriminations that bordered on genocide. Under the direction of représentants en mission from Paris, Republican forces began slaughtering Vendean royalists, irrespective of their age, gender or activities.
The National Convention, having already sanctioned the Reign of Terror, authorised the formation of 12 army divisions called the Colonnes Infernales (‘Infernal Columns’). Under the command of General Louis Marie Turreau, these columns swept through the Vendée in the first half of 1794. They crisscrossed the province, tearing down buildings, burning crops and leaving death and destruction in their wake.
The instruments of the Terror were then focussed on the Vendée, where more than 6,000 people – including 400 children – were executed. Some were guillotined but most were shot, stabbed, bayoneted or forcibly drowned. Farms, crops and forests were burned across the Vendée, affecting the innocent as well as the rebels.
Action against the potentially rebellious residents of the Vendée would continue as late as 1796.
Tough day for liberals today. Do not lose the opportunity to rub their noses in it and to heap more coals on them in future.
Initially, he was much better. It all went wrong later, but that’s progress for you.
m0ntysays:
September 5, 2022 at 12:41 pm
It does seem a bit weird for you lot to be eagerly expecting the conservatives to be the ones leading a revolution. That has never happened before. Normally it’s the conservatives whose heads are on pikes in the capital. I am not sure you have got things the right way round.
Timothy Neilsonsays:
September 5, 2022 at 1:49 pm
…
What about the Glorious Revolution of 1688? …
m0ntysays:
September 5, 2022 at 2:07 pm
…
Well look, if you as an Australian (or Yank) want to exchange an English head of state with a Dutch one, I am not sure that is going to advance liberal values.
Poor old self-beclowner. It’s desperately sad.
The Brits took king Billy on terms. Like, he’d be in charge as long as he didn’t tell ppl what to do.
Which was once upon a time what liberal values meant. No longer, alas.
Initially. Lol
Initially, Adolf was Time Man Of The Year.
Monty forgets about free helicopter rides.
As a system of government and institutional refreshment it does have some pedigree.
I never cared for him myself. He shouted too much.
wow … a false dichotomy dressed up as a straw-man
just repeating the words of others he sounds idiotic
the more he tries using his own words the more idiotic he sounds
vacuous gibber
Initially, Adolf was Time Man Of The Year.
One good thing about him.
He killed Hitler.
If Adolph had popped his clogs in about 1937 he might have been remembered as a great statesman. (the suffering of the Jews around then written off as “collateral damage)
More likely the awful economic policies would have seen it all go to crap by about 1940 anyway. (without a war)
duncanm says: September 5, 2022 at 2:03 pm
She must have given a powerful & sage speech, coz left wingers are hating on her bigtime in social media.
Ill-conceived comparison, you’d compare the Monarch to the President, not the Constitution. More apt, English law, for instance, was more liberal re adultery, for example, than US law.
Stabbing spree in Canada (Saskatchewan) Ten dead, a dozen sliced up but still alive.
Knife licencing … now.
Just like Joe Biden — though poor, befuddled Joe could never be Hitler. That’s just the projection of his fascist speech writers.
Wow. Rolls Royce – at its Goodwood car plant in southern England – has a Manager of Bespoke to oversee the owner’s customisation of each car sold – as you would expect for units that wind up in Australian showrooms for $A720,000 to $1.11 million each.
Trust you to fuck it up, you donut gulping imbecile.
As the professor was told, the American revolution was anti-totalitarian first and foremost. To codify it some modern day qualifying context is stupid.
Dickless wrote this:
The constitutions of Western nations are founded on liberal values, not conservative ones. The historical narrative of the West over the course of centuries has been that we are shifting more and more towards respecting our constitutions and implementing those liberal values more fully, in the face of conservatives who want to retain undemocratic societal structures which benefit them only.
This is classic projection. The left, who always classify themselves with some noble, grand terminology such as liberal, project their inherent and fundamental illiberalism onto their opponents. The reason, as I have said, is psychologically basic. They are empty people who compensate by feeling superior. To prove their superiority they invent issues, like AGW or wokeism, which no matter how destructive, they pursue to demonstrate their sense of superiority. The inevitable consequence, every time, is increased authoritarianism in society as the left entrench power because their issues are false, their superiority is grotesquely wrong and the only way they can ensure their sense of superiority is enabled is through tyranny.
Conservatism, the preservation of tried and tested values in a democratic, individual rights based society, is anathema to leftie because they don’t believe individuals should have equal rights. In fact their scorn for others not like them and who do not pay the requisite adulation, is misanthropic. They are blighted people, the third generation who squander the inheritance. And they have no dicks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUbfPw8ziwU
I worked with an English dude whose father was CEO of Rollers aircraft engine. The dude worked in the interest rate swap department and lost the bank 100 mill. Shit happens I guess. Lost touch.
You know, I only feel safe with a Roller engine, then GE and finally Pratt.
Just wondering if any military history people can help me. I’ve had a pic of my GGFather in uniform, my Mum tells me he served in the Boer War, I’ve looked everywhere but it seems that the records of that war for Australian soldiers is fairly incomplete. I was wondering if I sent the pic someone may be able to identify the uniform and confirm if it’s a Boer War style or something else. If you have the time and energy ask Dover to contact me. Thanks
Cronkite, conservatism is just another form of leftism as it’s really about control of people’s lives. If libertarianism is too extreme then move towards classic liberalism. You’ll feel more comfortable there.
Lots of tonguebathing stories in the MSM about the white, upper middle class Teals. But, nobody is interested in Dai Le. So much for ‘diversity.’
dover0beachsays:
September 5, 2022 at 10:55 am
Politics is downstream of culture in a democracy.
If you seek to reverse this, you are fighting against democracy.
Yes, yes, because liberals, such as yourself, never use politics to further liberalism. I mean the thought of you doing so never crosses your mind.
It’s “democracy” when m0nty-fa’s side does it, even if the masses don’t want it, and object.
Not defending either party, but the MotY is someone who “for better or for worse… has done the most to influence the events of the year”. AH (1938)would certainly meet that criteria , especially the “worse”, Stalin (1939), same. In 1936 Wallis Simpson won it, 1937 it was Kai-Sheks.
Jon Stewart Presents Medal To Ukrainian Nazi At Disney World
The Jimmy Dore Show
Diogenes
Sure, it was about who was most influential. However, the crap accompanying the choice was actually complementary and hopeful.
My comment was a counter to someone’s stupid comment that the Nap was better value than Robespierre’s abortion. He then came back with a qualifier and the Time comment was a counter to that swill.
no complaints about being a refugee – she’s proud of it, and knows she won the jackpot coming to Oz.
This is a heartwarming sight. What a magnificent outfit!
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=174722908415826&set=a.162933119594805
Daily Mail
Dai Le defeated Kristina Keneally for the seat of Fowler in southwest Sydney
Won as independent after ALP parachuted ex-NSW premier 70km from rich area
Maiden speech recalled how she fled the Fall of Saigon as a seven-year-old
Compared western Sydney’s harsh lockdown to the communist dictatorship
Also took swipe at Ms Keneally saying Fowler needed a local to represent it
thefrollickingmolesays:
September 5, 2022 at 11:53 am
Politics is downstream of culture in a democracy.
If you seek to reverse this, you are fighting against democracy.
So death penalty is back on then?
Borders nearly closed as per the peoples wishes (not the partys platform)?
etc etc..
You fat fuckwit.
You have to understand the m0nty-fa fascist version of “democracy”.
If the people want something that “lefty liberals” like, that is “democracy”.
If the people want something that “lefty liberals” don’t like, that is “cheap populism”.
Love this clip.
m0ntysays:
September 5, 2022 at 12:41 pm
It does seem a bit weird for you lot to be eagerly expecting the conservatives to be the ones leading a revolution. That has never happened before. Normally it’s the conservatives whose heads are on pikes in the capital. I am not sure you have got things the right way round.
m0nty-fa really, really, does not understand, though he boasted about it on the Old Cat.
He and his ilk are now the conservatives, defending the reactionary establishment. Those who used to be conservatives are now the revolutionaries, coming for him and his ilk with the pikes.
m0nty-fa, running dog lackey of the reactionary, oligarchic, establishment. Fascist pig!
Correct, JC. Pratt & Whitney are the turkeys of the aero engine business, with comparatively poor reliability. Buying them costs airlines money because of the reliability problems.
CNN employees are “freaked out” the company’s new CEO Chris Licht is orchestrating a “purge” of left-wing staff after Brian Stelter and John Harwood announced their abrupt departures, according to the Washington Post.
France to restart all nuclear reactors by winter amid energy crunch • FRANCE 24 English
Cronkite, conservatism is just another form of leftism as it’s really about control of people’s lives. If libertarianism is too extreme then move towards classic liberalism. You’ll feel more comfortable there.
I thought I defined the terms. The US constitution is a conservative document. To a lessor extent so to is the Australian constitution. The conservative principles are simply those principles which give individual rights to people while preserving the basic structure which can maximise those rights. There’s always some toing and froing. Libertarianism is just an underdeveloped form of conservatism.
Classic liberalism and conservatism have merged in the modern society. The modern liberalism called progressive liberalism is just a lie and appropriation by the likes of the chipmunk and every other leftie.
Constable Zachary Rolfe shot Walker dead during a botched arrest attempt, after Walker stabbed the police officer in the shoulder with a pair of surgical scissors.
Fixed to
Constable Zachary Rolfe shot Walker dead during a botched murder attempt, by Walker, bringing scissors to a gun fight and stabbing the police officer in the shoulder with a pair of surgical scissors.
Coroners findings: ” Play stupid games, win stupid prizes“
”Either you’re a revolutionary or you’re a conservative, it’s binary not a spectrum.”
Hmmm. Let’s see. George Washington, conservative or revolutionary? Benjamin Franklin? Thomas Jefferson?
It’s so hard to decide.
m0nty-fa is an idiot.
I don’t think Mossad telegraphed much of their planning or the reasoning behind it.
They’ve always got the option of… y’know… producing shows that have …. actual ratings.
Yo! Triggered snowflakes at CNN: Produce shows that people want to watch!
You’ll be amazed at how effective this is.
Follow me for more little-known tricks on how keep a job.
JC
40,000 people
Led by Maximillian Robespierre, the Committee on Public Safety enacted a series of decrees that established a system of Terror, enforced by the state, in an effort to root out counter-revolutionaries and save the new Republic from itself. Under this system, at least 40,000 people were killed.
Does that include the Vendée rebels?
want to exchange an English head of state with a Dutch one, I am not sure that is going to advance liberal values.
What has m0nty-fa got against the Dutch? johanna, get stuck into the fool!
mole
Snap on the Vendée.
The word ‘conservative’ means different things to different ppl. To those who apply the term to themselves, it means a preference for the tried and true to the untried. To those who don’t, it means stodgy old fart. Likewise the term ‘liberal’. When applied to oneself it means generous and tolerant, when applied to others it means feckless and irresponsible.
We can’t debate the relative merits of liberalism and conservativism until we agree on what the words mean.
This is so obvious that it should go without saying, but the usual suspects have been changing the meanings of words for a while now. And are dumb enough to think we won’t notice. It severely hampers their own mentation.
Add another 50k to the 40k Max & Co. killed off. 🙂
sfwsays:
September 5, 2022 at 2:53 pm
Just wondering if any military history people can help me. I’ve had a pic of my GGFather in uniform, my Mum tells me he served in the Boer War, I’ve looked everywhere but it seems that the records of that war for Australian soldiers is fairly incomplete.
Most of the Boer War contingents were from the separate colonies, so you need to look in the relevant State Archives.
Try the Infantry Museum in Singleton about the uniforms, IIRC, they have a collection, as might the AWM.
I think you’ve “mentated” enough.
It was a remark made after Arafat died, and the Israelis were accused of his murder.
JC earlier.
Really?
They’ve got an eagle sticker on them.
But let’s wait for Eyrie Eagle’s final call on that one.
Constable Zachary Rolfe shot Walker dead during a botched arrest attempt, after Walker stabbed the police officer in the shoulder with a pair of surgical scissors.
Instead of the expense of an enquiry why didn’t they issue a statement that not breaking the law doesn’t carry the same consequences as breaking the law .. period!
Another 251s ‘suck-up” if Taylor had of been white it would have been just another plod doing his job day .. FFS!
Explain Sanchez. Rollers are out of vogue now.
Where’s the *horticultural aviator to help us understand why.
*Chauncey Gardener
There’s a Boer War Memorial Society in Western Australia – is there an equivalent in your home State?
Sorry…couldn’t help meself 😉 :
‘There may well be… gunplay.’
You should give it a try, JC. Also, try reading some history instead of googling irrelevant numbers.
Metal Plants Feeding Europe’s Factories Face an Existential Crisis
In the aluminum industry, closing a smelter is an agonizing decision. Once power is cut and the production “pots” settle back to room temperature, it can take many months and tens of millions of dollars to bring them back online.
Yet Norsk Hydro ASA is preparing this month to do exactly that at a huge plant in Slovakia. And it’s not the only one — European production has dropped to the lowest levels since the 1970s and industry insiders say the escalating energy crisis is now threatening to create an extinction event across large swathes of the region’s aluminum production.
Cops are supposed to be threatened with axes and knives, and stand defenseless?
You’re very snarky today head prefect; do you want a cuddle.
Seems Zachary Rolfe’s ex fiance is on the witness list for the inquest, with a large bucket of sh!t, close handy.
Cops are supposed to be threatened with axes and knives, and stand defenseless?
They too can carry axes and knives. Fair’s fair.
It was a tax revolt seeking the rule of law.
“Dai Le, member for Fowler (knocked off Nobody’s girl) off to a good start. Proudly Australian. Good on her.
.. wearing an ao dai – a traditional Vietnamese dress – decorated with the Australian flag.
Le spoke of her gratitude at being welcomed into the country as a child, and to those who helped her family embrace Australian culture.
“This migration story belongs to all of us.”
But she also lashed the onerous rules her community was placed under during the 2021 lockdown.
“We weren’t allowed to travel beyond the five-kilometre radius from our homes. We were told to get travel permits. We were forced to get tested every three days. Every day, we had helicopters flying around our area [along with] police on horseback.
“The last time I looked, a government that takes away individuals’ freedom to choose how they want to live, work and raise families was called a communist dictatorship.””
You go gal! Can we have a thousand more like Dai Le? Oh and this is the same woman that the eternally stupid effing Liberals of NSW expelled from the party in 2017. And that, ladies and gentlemen, tells you everything you need to know about the joke that is the current Liberal Party of Australia.
Did the headline writer realise what he wrote?
’If white people were still here, this wouldn’t happen’: the majority-Black town flooded with sewage
Black residents in Centreville, Illinois, say officials ignored their pleas for help for years. Now they’re quarantined in toxic conditions
Enjoyable reading the thread over breakfast, a Hobbit’s breakfast in fact – luscious, long and varied. Time for a second croissant and damn the consequences!
Liz Truss on her hind legs this morning telling all and sundry that she “has a plan” for energy supply but won’t make it clear until she is elected.
Now where have I heard that before?
In plain English – she’s got nuffink. The quintessential bugwoman.
‘As far as I’m concerned we’re all Australian people and we shouldn’t be divided along the lines of race.’
Jacinta Price – Daily Mail
Who did they vote for, all those years they were making ‘pleas for help’ to officials?
Enjoy the ‘quarantine in toxic conditions’ you halfwits.
And thank you Mater for reminding us of that atrocity 50 years ago. It shocked me at 16, it still has the power to horrify me all these years later.
The ineptitude of the Germans had to be seen to be believed. It was almost as if they didn’t want to rescue those boys. Fast forward many years to the Lindt café and not a thing was learned.
Not a bad comparison – Tony Abbott offered the services of Two Commando, but, no, New South Wales Police could do the job…….
“And thank you Mater for reminding us of that atrocity 50 years ago”
I think it was me calli.
Fuck off, Professor. Don’t come bawling to me if you make stupid comments and then get caught out. Just to repeat the counter, Napoleon was NOT better than Max’s outfit. You really should shut your trap when you’ve taken the wrong rabbit hole.
Judging from your comment, I know more about the history of the time than you appear to.
This is our last day of “self guiding” – off to some wineries and a lunch of traditional Croatian delicacies. This gives me a little trepidation – it might be “nose to tail” – but if Cats can bear it, I shall report faithfully any of the more interesting tidbits. 🙂
We meet up with the rest of our small group tonight, all Aussies. Most will be flying in today and probably jetlagged.
Reflecting on comments made by the guide yesterday, I suspect most of the criminality here is at the official level. Definitely where the money is.
but, no, New South Wales Police could do the job…….
Cath Burns
Never let this mighty achievement be forgotten. Dai Le has finally killed the mad yank cow’s political career (if it could be dignified with such a term) stone cold dead.
Napoleon’s excursion into Russia, and even more so his retreat, showed how little he cared for the people of France, or anywhere else for that matter.
Approximately a million dead in total with a pitiful few French returning home, and so many horses killed there was a shortage in Europe for decades.
Kenny is very good on a number of issues including renewable non-energy and alarmism, but in regard to the Voice and aboriginal constitutional recognition he is fucked in the head. He says this is not about race or division and then says one race should be treated in a special way and wraps it up in cuddly and good intentions. FMD.
As for this bullshit that the 3rd nations were excluded from the constitution until the 1967 referendum it is as wrong as the flora and fauna crap. The question put to the voters in the 1967 referendum was: Do you approve the proposed law for the alteration of the Constitution entitled: “An Act to alter the Constitution so as to omit certain words relating to the people of the Aboriginal race in any state and so that Aboriginals are to be counted in reckoning the population?”
Professor Helen Irving writes:
1. Certain words were omitted
The “certain words” that were omitted were from section 51 (xxvi). Prior to 1967, this section gave the Commonwealth the power to make laws with respect to “[t]he people of any race, other than the aboriginal race in any State, for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws”. This meant that the Commonwealth could not make special laws for the Aboriginal people, except in the Territories. Aborigines were a subject for State laws.
In 1967 the words “other than the aboriginal people in any State” were struck out. As a consequence, the Commonwealth gained the power to make special laws for the Aboriginal people (Native Title laws are an example).
The Constitution, it should be noted, refers only to “special laws”. It is neutral regarding the content of such laws. It does not say anything about whether those laws must be beneficial or adverse.
2. Aboriginals are to be counted
Secondly, following the 1967 referendum, section 127 of the Constitution was removed. This section said: In reckoning the numbers of the people of the Commonwealth, or of a State or other part of the Commonwealth, aboriginal natives shall not be counted.
It is a common myth that the section excluded Aboriginal people from being counted in the census, and that the 1967 referendum meant that they would henceforth be counted. It did not. The Aboriginal people have always been counted, from the very first Commonwealth census in 1911. In fact, census statistics specifically recorded the populations of Aboriginal Australians. “Half-blood” Aborigines were considered to be white and were included in the general census.
The purpose of section 127 (admittedly, not obvious from its words) was to guide the calculation of the numbers of parliamentary representatives per State and also to determine certain State financial entitlements and obligations, based on State populations. When these calculations were made, the numbers of Aboriginal people, as counted, were excluded.
The right to vote
Another common myth is that the 1967 referendum gave the Aboriginal people the right to vote. This is incorrect. The 1967 referendum had nothing to do with this right (or “equal rights” or rights at all).
Aboriginal people were able to vote in all States and in the Commonwealth by 1967. From 1949 they could vote in Commonwealth elections if they were enrolled to vote in NSW, Victoria, South Australia or Tasmania. Indigenous people who had been in military service also had the right to vote. In 1962, all other Aboriginal people became entitled to vote in Commonwealth elections.
At the State level, Aboriginal people were able to vote in South Australia, NSW, Tasmania and Victoria throughout the 20th century. In Western Australia and Queensland they gained the State vote, respectively, in 1962 and 1965.
It should also be noted that the official definition of Aboriginal has changed over time, and voting rights of individuals have therefore changed accordingly. Many Aboriginal people today would not have been excluded from the right to vote under the former laws.
In any case (with the exception of a now-spent transitional provision – section 41), neither eligibility to vote nor the franchise is mentioned in the Constitution. The right to vote is a matter for ordinary legislation. The Constitution did not need to be altered for Aboriginal people to gain the right to vote.
Citizenship
A further common myth is that the 1967 referendum gave citizenship to the Aboriginal people. This is incorrect. Between 1788 and 1949, everyone born in Australia (or any other part of the British Empire) acquired the legal status of “British subject” (“subject” was the term used for British nationality at that time). In 1949, under new legislation every person born in Australia, regardless of race or colour, became simultaneously a British subject and Australian citizen. Subsequent changes in legislation meant that Australians are no longer British subjects.
Eligibility for Australian citizenship has changed over the years. Citizenship laws, however, have never differentiated between Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal persons.
Again, citizenship is not defined in the Constitution. A referendum would not be required to amend the citizenship law.
http://www.kevgillett.net/?page_id=10030
Sorry Cassie! Mistaken identity strikes again. I blame the colour of your gravatar.
September 50 years ago, I was recovering from a dreadful bout of bronchitis which kept me from school for several weeks. In the end, I was so run down and so far behind in the school work I left to start a job. Looking back, probably the result of the illness and deep depression over what happened at Munich. A fresh start, if you like.
I look at the disruption to young people’s lives over the Covid response and see a mirror to my own experience, this time on a global scale. It helps me to understand the despondency that we are seeing. They are quite different of course, but it doesn’t take much to run a young life off the rails.
Yes Rosie, but according to the acclaimed Professor.
Sad, just sad! .. not only is BRADBURY’s career in the doldrums his marriage is lookin’ shaky .. LOL!
https://ibb.co/B2Rt4fT
At the time the Constitution was drawn up, Western Australia and Queensland still had populations of nomadic Aborigines. The concern was that the population figures would be manipulated to gain extra seats in the Lower House and extra funding from the Commonwealth, hence the omission.
I’ve seen one website, asking the reader “suppose you weren’t thought important enough to be counted in the population” F.M.Dead……
You should take up Cohenites offer of a hug.
And I’m not a professor, I’m a Beaugan.
Actually, you’re neither. You’re just a weirdo with outsized pretensions.
Interesting comments up thread about Apple vs. Microsoft.
I’m on an iPad for travel – easy as. It hooks in to wifi effortlessly and “remembers” all my little foibles. The Beloved is on his laptop – has to go through a series of steps for my one. My daughter uses Apple exclusively for design work – it’s just so much better. Son in law on Microsoft for his IT security team.
I suppose it’s one of those horses for courses things.
Realize this.
The global (ABC tinged) is reporting on a water crisis in a small town in the USA….
Centreville is a city in St. Clair County, Illinois. The city had 4,232 residents as of 2020, according to the United States Census Bureau.
Heres its reps history.
Bloody racist democrats…
Office title Officeholder name Date assumed office Party affiliation
U.S. Senate Illinois
Tammy Duckworth, January 3, 2017, Democratic Party
U.S. Senate Illinois
Dick Durbin, January 3, 1997, Democratic Party
….
The following is a list of the current state executive officials from Illinois:
Office Name Party Date assumed office
Attorney General of Illinois Kwame Raoul Democratic January 15, 2019
Chief of Staff to the Governor of Illinois Anne Caprara Democratic 2019
Governor of Illinois J.B. Pritzker Democratic 2019
Illinois Auditor General Frank J. Mautino Nonpartisan January 1, 2016
Illinois Director of Natural Resources Colleen Callahan Nonpartisan April 12, 2019
Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White Democratic 1999
Illinois Superintendent of Education Carmen Ayala Nonpartisan February 26, 2019
Illinois Treasurer Mike Frerichs Democratic January 12, 2015
Lieutenant Governor of Illinois Juliana Stratton Democratic January 14, 2019
I blame Trump.
Its BLM propaganda spruced up as a major news story, with enough details about whos running the joint omitted on purpose.
He had a rally somewhere on the weekend.
He referred to the Pennsylvania Demonrat senate candidate’s (Fetterman) track suit as “nasty” and said Adam Schiff’s head reminds him of a watermelon. … watermelon head.
Nothing’s changed.
You should take up Cohenites offer of a hug.
We could have a group hug. But no funny business.
I love Trump. Funniest president ever.
To whoever it was that posted the link to the Soviet Story the other day, thank you.
While I was aware of at least 75% of the content, which is a lot more than your average John, the other 25% had me gasping with surprise. I have found a version with English subtitles which was only uploaded yesterday. I have downloaded it
Should be compulsory viewing!
https://youtu.be/fk65_psR454
No thanks. I don’t do hugs. Nothing personal.