Open Thread – Tues 6 Sept 2022


David with the Head of Goliath, Caravaggio, 1610

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rickw
rickw
September 9, 2022 6:38 pm

Leftist destruction of electricity, internet and air conditioning is the only things they’ll listen to.

As long as they’re smart enough to work out that it is in fact the Leftists that are responsible. Rather than “greedy corporations and the MAGA crowd”.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2022 6:40 pm

Grubs like Adam Ant and Farqui shouldn’t draw their salaries if they despise Australia so much.

JC
JC
September 9, 2022 6:41 pm

Dot

The indictment does suggest that money raisers made a claim that 100% of the pick-up would go towards building the wall.

Let’s see if the claim is true or there is a clause of expenses.

Fatboy, you’re then okay indicting Bunter and the big guy, yea?

rickw
rickw
September 9, 2022 6:42 pm

My recently retired mate in the USA is working his guts out helping me on various activities. I can only guess that his 401k is completely fucked.

I think his Dad’s generation will have been the last to retire for a good while.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2022 6:44 pm

The psychopathic, supercilious smirk on ‘professor’ Uju Anya suggests she’d ship you off to a gulag at the drop of a hat.

Roger
Roger
September 9, 2022 6:44 pm

He’s guilty as sin.

Hello!

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2022 6:47 pm

orders from on high

Name them.

shatterzzz
September 9, 2022 6:47 pm

The former NAZIs didn’t run anything in occupied Germany,

Rubbish! .. you can read umpteen books on the aftermath which point out that the idea was no Nazis would hold any gummint offices but then the allies came to realise that there weren’t enuf “proven” non Nazis to run things and changed their tune ..
This sort of stuff is a bit like the “myth” that most Nazis classified as “war criminals” were punished .. it looked good on paper and some serious sentences were handed down but 90% of those were “quietly’ discarded and other than the few who got Nuremberg publicity the majority of convicted Nazis served less than 5 years of whatever sentence they attracted .. and that includes “death penalty” verdicts ……
Lotza details on post-war sentences & actual time-served in ..
THE SS Alibi of a Nation 1922-1945 by Gerald Reitlinger .. pub 1956 ..

cohenite
September 9, 2022 6:49 pm

I see Steve Bannon was perpwalked in handcuffs today, on fraud charges. Why is it that so many of Trump’s allies are criminals?

They have dicks dickless; and the dickless left hates people with dicks and gets revenge on them by corrupting the system.

Fuck I hate the greens; grubs, perverts, commies and traitors every last one of the scum:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11196249/Greens-leader-Adam-Bandt-told-leave-Australia-wanting-republic-hours-Queens-death.html

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2022 6:51 pm

This sort of stuff is a bit like the “myth” that most Nazis classified as “war criminals” were punished .. it looked good on paper and some serious sentences were handed down but 90% of those were “quietly’ discarded and other than the few who got Nuremberg publicity the majority of convicted Nazis served less than 5 years of whatever sentence they attracted .. and that includes “death penalty” verdicts

Which is partly why I totally reject the idea that Nuremberg went too far.

Roger
Roger
September 9, 2022 6:52 pm

Grubs like Adam Ant and Farqui shouldn’t draw their salaries if they despise Australia so much.

Pace Gil Scott-Heron, the revolution not only will be televised, it will also be subsidised.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 9, 2022 6:53 pm

Its not that they needed to negotiate.
Its that it was stupid to reduce the conflict to “certain death” publicly, loudly and openly and make Gobbels (up until then) lies come to life.
Anyone silly enough to think about putting out a negotiated or conditional surrender (which the victors can abuse to the hilt once they are in control anyway) is automatically now an uber-traitor to the whole nation.

Instead of a WW1 situation where the main belligerent pollies/generals see the writing on the wall, shit the tin and run while leaving a hollow shell of a government to take the blame you end up with street by street through Berlin.

The dismembering etc was morally right, announcing it was tactically dumb.

We have seen a repeat in Syria, Assad was offered victory or ignominy/show trial/death, and instead of a possible cut and run hes instead had a win.
Similar with the comments on prosecuting Putin, win the war first, then do what you want.

m0nty
m0nty
September 9, 2022 6:54 pm

Bannon paid himself 1 mn from 25 mn.

Most charities take 90% in admin costs, non profit directors are paid like executives in small non listed companies.

That is just not true, unless you’re talking exclusively about charities run by Republicans.

Cassie of Sydney
September 9, 2022 6:55 pm

“He’s guilty as sin.”

Judge Monty the Moron.

m0nty
m0nty
September 9, 2022 6:56 pm

you’re then okay indicting Bunter and the big guy, yea?

For what, LOL. There is never an indictable offence cited in this stream of shyte.

Cassie of Sydney
September 9, 2022 6:59 pm

I remember how Judge Monty the Moron pronounced guilt on Cardinal Pell, anyone else remember?

What choice description did Judge Monty the Moron use for Cardinal Pell? Ah yes, “rock spider”.

A description he has never ever withdrawn.

JC
JC
September 9, 2022 6:59 pm

Foreign influence peddling is against the law, Fatboy. The emails clearly show the family was in on it up to their neck.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 9, 2022 7:00 pm

Maybe they won’t even know what the ultimate purpose is until they get their orders from on high

Ohhhhhhhh. It’s still a mystery then. Because it wasn’t a mystery when the nutter sites were (and in some cases, still are – see Madam Zeeee earlier) in full swing on the DeaTh CamPs with GaS.

Every western country reacted in exactly the same way

As explained just upthread, no they did not.

so it was obviously orchestrated

The worst orchestrated Millennium Cult following in history, and there’ve been quite a few.

‘It’s this! No, wait, it’s this! Oh no, hang on, it’s that! Death Camps! Climate Camps! Something Camps!’

If you plonkers insist on being so strident in demanding the sheeple wake up, at least point them to something that isn’t complete horseshit.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2022 7:01 pm

Monty picks the five best charities and doesn’t realise Bannon is better than them…but he’s guilty?

Bizarre .

m0nty
m0nty
September 9, 2022 7:02 pm

Foreign influence peddling is against the law, Fatboy. The emails clearly show the family was in on it up to their neck.

You’re really going to indict a former Vice President and current President on foreign influence peddling. What a joke.

JC
JC
September 9, 2022 7:05 pm

You’re really going to indict a former Vice President and current President on foreign influence peddling. What a joke.

As the current president no, he can’t be indicted but should be impeached. His brother and son should be indicted but demented would likely pardon both worthless parasites.

He should have been indicted when it all came out.

shatterzzz
September 9, 2022 7:06 pm

I like the lad! .. LOL!
https://ibb.co/4wkDm81

2dogs
2dogs
September 9, 2022 7:06 pm

For what, LOL. There is never an indictable offence cited in this stream of shyte.

I’m pretty sure bribery is an indictable offence.

Roger
Roger
September 9, 2022 7:09 pm

You’re really going to indict a former Vice President and current President on foreign influence peddling. What a joke.

So…Rex, lex.

Is that what you believe, monty? Really?

Johnny Rotten
September 9, 2022 7:14 pm

So how will Markle exploit the situation.
Common sense dictates that she stays well away from any aspect of the mourning and funeral, but will that towering narcissism allow her to do so?
More likely, we will be treated to the full panolpy of hypocrisy and faux victimhood that her script writers are no doubt working on as we speak.
If she leaves the UK being hated, that will be a victory for her. Endless daytime TV opportunities present themselves.
Disclosure. I believe that Markle is a genius, which in no way detracts from my other belief that she is an evil bitch.

Well Harry Boy must get something in the Will. And she just happens to be…………………

2dogs
2dogs
September 9, 2022 7:14 pm

Monty was similarly dismissive of any possibility that Craig Thomson would be found guilty, but he was.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I suggest someone tell Ms Faruqi to shut her fucking mouth.

Any of the bush lawyers on this blog help out? Does the Senate have the power to censure Faruqi for her comments?

The Senate was able to censure Bettina Arndt for her comments.
Thus the Senate sure as hell is able to censure Mehreen Faruqi for her bad taste comments.

bespoke
bespoke
September 9, 2022 7:16 pm

Hilarious! Yobbo had a post on docking that ended lasting more then six months. The new cat is on track to beet that record with the doxing thread.

shatterzzz
September 9, 2022 7:17 pm

Bannon paid himself 1 mn from 25 mn.

Shane Warne sez, “Hold my beer!” .. LOL!

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 9, 2022 7:20 pm

Governments are rarely monolithic, more a system of competing and sometimes co-operating organised criminal gangs. Presenting them with unconditional surrender simply unites them.
The Soviet Union was a triad. The Party, the Army and the KGB. I doubt Nazi Germany was any different.

m0nty
m0nty
September 9, 2022 7:20 pm

Bannon’s mate Kolfage already pleaded guilty to the federal charge. Kolfage and Bannon lied to their donors about what the money would be used for on their GoFundMe page. It’s not a particularly complex case.

Johnny Rotten
September 9, 2022 7:23 pm

DrBeauGansays:
September 9, 2022 at 6:27 pm
You could never negotiate with the Nazis. Or the Japs. Or Mussolini. Or the Soviets.

All had to be destroyed.

You can add lefties to that list.

Remember that famous quote – “You cannot negotiate with a Tiger when you have your head in its mouth”……………………Great film

132andBush
132andBush
September 9, 2022 7:28 pm

Nanowires, corpse sludge blood, lizard peddler empires and satire sites.
It’s all very cool.

You forgot the chemtrails.
Never forget the chemtrails.

Jorge
Jorge
September 9, 2022 7:30 pm

Nobody is suggesting negotiating with the Nazis. That wasn’t what was envisaged. There was a German resistance movement with as a figurehead who made overtures to the White House but were ignored.
The unconditional surrender idea emerged from flunkies in the US State Dept. Churchill, like everyone else, had no inkling of it until Casablanca when Roosevelt first mentioned it as a sop to Stalin.

It’s advocates employed it to facilitate Soviet domination of postwar Europe.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2022 7:32 pm

Presenting them with unconditional surrender simply unites them.

Each faction is too undesirable and compromised with to deal with as a respectable nation state entity.

The Germans were on their way to making nuclear weapons.

Thank God we beat them by an innings by the end of the first session on day five.

Johnny Rotten
September 9, 2022 7:33 pm

Struthsays:
September 9, 2022 at 1:17 pm
The highest offices from the Vatican to Kings and Prime Ministers are filled with Communists and assorted tyrants.
The Pope is a communist.
The English king is a tyrannical moron, an elitist.
Held by his wing nut ears and pulled by smarter evil.
The new British PM is full of piss and wind, I’m guessing as she too is WEF.
If she gets any grand ideas of pulling away from the great reset as Boris did, just like him, it’ll be a choice of silver or lead.
She’ll be Shinzo’d if she plays up.

But communists don’t play well together.
Like Sunni and Shi’ite they’ll soon be fighting over who is really running the show.
Who gets the feeling that the Labor party of Australia already feel a bit put out at not being completely in charge?

Albo and a few of them will have their union thug noses put out of joint by globalist orders.

To want to tyrannically rule the world is a big ask.
It’s a fucking big world.
There’s a bit of competition for that job.
Grifters in the WEF and bureaucrats who are rich other than from their own honest efforts, are not smart. They are just without principle.
History will show that the man who saved the world was Donald Trump.
One man, unafraid to loudly speak the truth.
Supported by millions of armed , righteous westerners.
The largest militia there ever was.
Hence Biden makes threats as an enemy of those people.
Sure, many who submitted to evil will die…the jab is killing them off, but really, at the end of this, a political awakening that needed to happen, will happen.
And it is happening.
I don’t think the future looks bright for Fauci or Gates, or WEF/Davos criminals.
Biden’s speech, angry and fearful of decency and truth,was a spitting, losing, coward’s address as the plan was put into place before they got the guns from the yanks.
It’s all falling apart.
They know it.

The left, threatening a civil war in the USA, are as shit scared of having one as they possibly could be.
Piss and wind.
Bluff.
And so they should be.
That’s a lot of hope in thinking the American troops are going to go to war against their own people, be they armed or not.
That fighter jet you speak of Biden, you traitorous fucking shithead, could just as easily decide to fire on you.
So could over 200 million armed decent Americans.
Keep pissing them off at your own peril.

Are you for real? WTF are you smoking? Go to another Blog and STFU you crunt.

You have ‘nufink’ to add here apart from vitriol.

BYE……………………………..

shatterzzz
September 9, 2022 7:36 pm

Nuttin’ like being a best selling author .. LOL!

The Incredible Life of Hubert Wilkins
Australia’s greatest explorer
By: Peter FitzSimons .. RRP .. $49.99

H/B edition on clearance at Kmart, Wetherill Park for $1.00 …….

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
September 9, 2022 7:36 pm

There are 169300 registered electricians in Aust. No wonder why I have to wait 3 weeks to get a lightbulb changed.

Razey
Razey
September 9, 2022 7:37 pm

Interesting.

Frank
Frank
September 9, 2022 7:37 pm

Youtube would have tutorials on how to do it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2022 7:38 pm

The Germans were on their way to making nuclear weapons.

The reading I’ve done indicates that Nazi Germany never came anywhere near to producing an atomic bomb.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2022 7:44 pm

Why is it so? Why were the Germans behind?

cohenite
September 9, 2022 7:44 pm

Dickless would be ejaculating if he had a dick about Bannon being arrested.

Bannon was pardoned by Trump. The argument is a POTUS pardon only applies to federal crimes not state charges or private civil litigation. The NY AGs, all corrupt demorats, say Bannon is subject to state criminal charges because some of the people he allegedly duped when they donated to a fund to build a wall were from NY state. But that is a joke because the base crime is a federal one of misrepresentation of a national fund inviting donations. People from all states donated to the fund to build the wall. It would be a state crime only if donations were solicited from one state. Apparently, Bannon had said all funds would go to the wall and he and another director, a legless veteran, took out a $1 million from the $25 million raised for running expenses, in itself not a misrepresentation since running costs and personal expenses do not detract from his guarantee.

This is a typical demorat hit job on one of Trump’s allies. Dickless loves it because he is a typical little leftie shit who cares nothing for the rule of law only his side winning.

bespoke
bespoke
September 9, 2022 7:45 pm

Nazi Germany never came anywhere near to producing an atomic bomb.

They had the raw materials and the technical knowledge all it would’ve taken is loose lipped scientists in the west.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 9, 2022 7:51 pm

Why is it so? Why were the Germans behind?

Because they didn’t have Coke during the war years.
They were drinking Fanta.
So they were not hopped up like their US counterparts, so their productivity was down.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 9, 2022 7:53 pm

So they were not hopped up like their US counterparts, so their productivity was down.

What about the adrenochrome? That would have sparked them up.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 9, 2022 7:53 pm

m0ntysays:
September 9, 2022 at 6:22 pm
I see Steve Bannon was perpwalked in handcuffs today, on fraud charges. Why is it that so many of Trump’s allies are criminals?

m0ntysays:
September 9, 2022 at 6:32 pm
Have you looked at the charges?

It’s the same charge that Trump pardoned him for at a federal level, but this time the state brought it. No double jeopardy because the Feds didn’t charge him before the pardon came.

He’s guilty as sin.

Nor even before a court, much less convicted, and m0nty-fa is following the Queen of Hearts: “Execution first, trial later”. m0nty-fa is a true believer in the Rule of Law. //sarc.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2022 7:58 pm

Why is it so? Why were the Germans behind?

Lack of coordination between the various departments – there wasn’t the coordination between science, Government and industry that there was during the Manhattan project. Many of the top German scientists had left Germany – some of them Jewish emigres fleeing the Nazi regime. The major problem was lack of support – Hitler was more interested in the V 1 and V 2 weapons.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 9, 2022 8:00 pm

“Lady Colin Campbell, said this morning HM had a form of bone cancer.”

Rings true – her obvious sudden weight loss was sinister, and her bruised hands suggested platelet dysfunction..

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 9, 2022 8:00 pm

JCsays:
September 9, 2022 at 6:59 pm
Foreign influence peddling is against the law, Fatboy. The emails clearly show the family was in on it up to their neck.

The DemonRats are exempt from the law. Ask them, they’ll tell you.

See also the “cabal”(their word) which “fortified” the 2020 election. Did the cabal declare all of their cash and “kind” contributions to the Biden campaign? ROFLMAO. We don’t even have them publicly admitting their involvement, much less declaring the value of their efforts.

Sounds indictable.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2022 8:01 pm

They had the raw materials and the technical knowledge all it would’ve taken is loose lipped scientists in the west.

Notwithstanding the RAF/SOE raids on Trondheim, this is why a conditional surrender would have been nuts.

Even if FDR agreed, no way in hell would Churchill or de Gaulle.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 9, 2022 8:03 pm

Why is it so? Why were the Germans behind?

Because E=mc² was utterly false in Germany on account of Einstein being a Jew.
Seriously, a lot of the good physicists had got out, particularly the Jewish ones.

132andBush
132andBush
September 9, 2022 8:04 pm

“He’s guilty as sin.”

Bannon to have charges thrown out within a week.

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
September 9, 2022 8:04 pm

A thought occurs after a long day.

Prince William and family die in a plane crash and King Charles suffers a heart attack and dies. Harry becomes King.

Yes, it’s been a very long day.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2022 8:09 pm

Notwithstanding the RAF/SOE raids on Trondheim, this is why a conditional surrender would have been nuts.

I was always under the impression that, after all the pushing and shoving that went on over the Treaty of Versailles, there was no way the Germans were ever going to be given another crack at a surrender on terms. Any surrender was going to be unconditional.

Jorge
Jorge
September 9, 2022 8:11 pm

Wiki:

it was ultimately “frozen at the laboratory level” with the “modest goal” to “build a nuclear reactor which could sustain a nuclear fission chain reaction for a significant amount of time and to achieve the complete separation of at least tiny amount of the uranium isotopes.” The scholarly consensus is that it failed to achieve these goals, and that despite fears at the time, the Germans had never been close to producing nuclear weapons.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2022 8:12 pm

Any surrender was going to be unconditional.

Yes. They didn’t even want to negotiate.

Hitler was, more or less, popularly elected. 43% of the list votes in 1933. Yes they intimidated rivals, but they got more support in a multiparty system then our governments get in a two party system!

Germany still had von Heisenberg and von Braun.

Nuclear weapons and ICBMs in the late 1940s.

We are so lucky the Allies insisted on unconditional surrender.

bespoke
bespoke
September 9, 2022 8:12 pm

Lego Batman, funny in a weird way.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2022 8:15 pm

JCsays:

September 9, 2022 at 3:22 pm

I guess that’s a ‘no’ about me getting the Golden Lions for my driveway, huh?

Turtlehead, remind the folks why you emailed Sinc threatening a lawsuit, you dreadful dreadful big blouse.

You’re kidding?
Winston, say it ain’t so.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2022 8:16 pm

They couldn’t build a functional reactor during wartime because the allies sabotaged the heavy water supply.

It is said von Heisenberg didn’t understand fusion.

I posit that he was capable of learning from mistakes.

On top of this, by say 1947, or 1949, with continued development of the V2 system, Germany could have reasserted itself with little to no resistance.

Indolent
Indolent
September 9, 2022 8:19 pm
Cassie of Sydney
September 9, 2022 8:20 pm

” There was a German resistance movement with as a figurehead who made overtures to the White House but were ignored.”

The resistance movement in Germany was always small. Whilst there were actions by a few incredibly brave men and women like Sophie Scholl, who was part of the White Rose resistance group, a non-violent resistance group, such groups was never going to have much impact.

However in 1943, as the war was turning and there was an escalation in military defeats for the Germans, there were rumbles among disaffected Wehrmacht officers, mainly aristocrats, which led to the doomed July plot. Most of these disaffected Wehrmacht officers, such as Stauffenberg, had once been, if not active Nazis, had most certainly supported Hitler’s actions in invading Poland and Russia.

In the dying days of the war there were overtures from top Nazis because they were shit scared…..the Allies rightly said NO. After what Germans vomited on the world, it had to be unconditional surrender.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2022 8:23 pm

Oh and Jodl was worse than Speer.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 9, 2022 8:24 pm
local oaf
September 9, 2022 8:24 pm

The reading I’ve done indicates that Nazi Germany never came anywhere near to producing an atomic bomb.

If Moe Berg thought they were close he probably would have plugged Heisenberg.

Jorge
Jorge
September 9, 2022 8:35 pm

Far from attracting support, unconditional surrender was unpopular and criticised by many. They saw it, correctly, as nothing more than Soviet appeasement. Not offending Russia became a higher priority than removing Hitler from power.

Stalin never signed on to it.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
September 9, 2022 8:39 pm

Fuck I hate the greens; grubs, perverts, commies and traitors every last one of the scum:

Sociopaths and narcissists.

Compassionate people give up their own time and money and don’t brag about it.

They live like royalty and lecture to the plebs. They think their shit doesn’t stink. I’ve met these people. Grifters in the real sense. Wannabes with nothing but their own delusions.

Jorge
Jorge
September 9, 2022 8:43 pm

Cassie, you don’t mention Franz von Papen, German ambassador to Turkey, a devout Catholic. Stalin ordered his assassination after he approached the Vatican, recognising that he would be the key figure in an alternative government to Hitler’s. The Bulgarian assassin botched the job but the Americans also approached him in Istanbul.

The resistance to Hitler was significant and would have flourished with a little nurturing. Stalin, though, saw the danger it presented to Soviet interests.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 9, 2022 8:44 pm

m0ntysays:
September 9, 2022 at 7:02 pm
Foreign influence peddling is against the law, Fatboy. The emails clearly show the family was in on it up to their neck.

You’re really going to indict a former Vice President and current President on foreign influence peddling. What a joke.

Don’t forget to include a previous presidential candidate, Kerry, who conducted negotiations with Iran during the Trump administration, also in breach of US law.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2022 8:45 pm

On top of this, by say 1947, or 1949, with continued development of the V2 system, Germany could have reasserted itself with little to no resistance.

Given that the Japanese were also working on an atomic bomb during the war, the first atomic weapons may have been dropped on London, Moscow, San Fransisco and San Diego….

132andBush
132andBush
September 9, 2022 8:45 pm

They live like royalty and lecture to the plebs. They think their shit doesn’t stink. I’ve met these people. Grifters in the real sense. Wannabes with nothing but their own delusions.

Speaking of such people.

40-65mm here over the last 36hrs.

Dams and river systems are full (again).

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 9, 2022 8:46 pm

Rogersays:
September 9, 2022 at 7:09 pm
You’re really going to indict a former Vice President and current President on foreign influence peddling. What a joke.

So…Rex, lex.

Is that what you believe, monty? Really?

m0nty-fa is a firm believer in the Divine Right of DemonRats.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2022 8:49 pm

Cassie, you don’t mention Franz von Papen, German ambassador to Turkey, a devout Catholic. Stalin ordered his assassination after he approached the Vatican, recognising that he would be the key figure in an alternative government to Hitler’s.

Why would Germans let him be Chancellor again after he tried to outsmart Hitler and failed?

He was Hitler’s Vice Chancellor in a coalition government for heaven’s sake!

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2022 8:50 pm

The resistance to Hitler was significant and would have flourished with a little nurturing.

No.

It wasn’t.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 9, 2022 8:50 pm

Stalin never signed on to it.

That’s the minimum Uncle Joe wanted.

He’d made plans for the invasion of Italy and France in early 1946, but backed off when he saw the results of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

From Stalin, by Ben H. Shephard:

At the Berlin train station on the eve of the Potsdam Conference in 1945, U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union Averell Harriman asked Stalin how it felt.to arrive in the capital of a defeated enemy as a victor. Stalin replied, “Tsar Alexander made it all the way to Paris.”

And:

In November 1937, he told his associates the following: “The Russian tsars did many bad things. They plundered and enslaved the people. They waged wars and grabbed territory in the interests of the landowners. But they did do one good thing—they created a huge state that stretches all the way to Kamchatka. We have inherited that state. And for the first time we, the Bolsheviks, have brought together and consolidated this state as a single, indivisible state . . . for the benefit of the workers.”

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 9, 2022 8:55 pm

Beery

They think their shit doesn’t stink. I’ve met these people. Grifters in the real sense. Wannabes with nothing but their own delusions.

I didn’t realise that you had met m0nty-fa.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2022 8:55 pm

LOL

von Papen was a war time terrorist in a neutral country.

The US only dropped the indictment when he became German Chancellor for six months.

“A devout Catholic”

Um yeah sure, like Pelosi, Biden, etc.

Zipster
Zipster
September 9, 2022 9:01 pm

The President of the United States is laundering $80 billion through Ukraine, so they indicted Steve Bannon.

10% for the big guy

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
September 9, 2022 9:04 pm

ZK2A, Johnny Rotten, Makka and Old Bloke,

Thanks for your comments on Patton.

He was an intriguing character with many flaws. I read (but not confirmed either way) that he was a bit of an anti-Semite and preferred the Germans to Russians as a race that could be reformed as opposed to mongols. He did not appear to be enamoured of the apparent practice of either killing German women who ran or raping those who didn’t by the Soviets. He certainly wanted to take Berlin before the Russians (ego?).

Imagine the Pacific theatre with him and Macarthur. It would have been mayhem of some kind. The Japs would have copped it though.

Between those two and Monty, I wonder who was the most eccentric. Omar Bradley and Rommel appear to have been the only two sane Generals/ Field Marshals on either side.

I suppose though, cometh the hour, cometh the man.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 9, 2022 9:08 pm

Perplexed

Omar Bradley and Rommel appear to have been the only two sane Generals/ Field Marshals on either side.

Slim and Wavell were better balanced than Bradley (whose reputation has taken some recent hits) and Rommel.

Winston Smith
September 9, 2022 9:08 pm

Sancho Panzer:

JCsays:
September 9, 2022 at 3:22 pm
I guess that’s a ‘no’ about me getting the Golden Lions for my driveway, huh?

Turtlehead, remind the folks why you emailed Sinc threatening a lawsuit, you dreadful dreadful big blouse.

You’re kidding?
Winston, say it ain’t so.

It is a lie. JC has claimed he can get the original email from Sinclair that proves it.
I say that JC can go right ahead because I never threatened anyone with a lawsuit.
I have the original email in my files, and while I did write to Sinclair asking him to quietly have a word with JC because his comments had gone past robust to abusive, I did not threaten anyone with a lawsuit.
That was essentially it.
JC has now blown a comment designed to defuse a tense situation into a blog wrecking stoush because he has an ego the size of a bus and cannot stand not being the Big Man.
I was going to let this all go and allow JC to have the last word, but that has been rejected by him.

JC
JC
September 9, 2022 9:09 pm

The amount of press the Queen’s death is getting in America is amazing.

Presidents are not supposed to bow to Royals.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 9, 2022 9:10 pm

Strange comment, I think she looks and sounds a bit retarded.

Liz Truss could be the most pro-Israel British prime minister ever

Truss’ meteoric rise in just a year, from little-known minister to the doorstep of No. 10 Downing Street, is the result of her unswerving loyalty to party leaders, her hard work, and a keen understanding of the prevailing mood among the Tories’ mainly male, old and affluent membership.

Rabz
September 9, 2022 9:13 pm

Have you looked at the charges?

What are the charges?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2022 9:18 pm

feelthebernsays:

September 9, 2022 at 4:15 pm

Whatever you do, do not, I repeat do not go to the doxing thread.

Whoooo, boy!
Just a tiny snippet of what Dover’s inbox would have looked like for the last couple of weeks.
What a sook fest.

Entropy
Entropy
September 9, 2022 9:18 pm

Presidents are not supposed to bow to Royals.

Really, then how to explain Kennedys, Clintons and Bushes?

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 9, 2022 9:20 pm

F-35 Deliveries Halted Over a Chinese Alloy, Pentagon Says

In a release Wednesday, Lockheed Martin said a magnet in the F-35?s Honeywell-made turbomachine — an engine component that provides power to its engine-mounted starter/generator — was recently discovered to have been made with cobalt and samarium alloy that came from China.
Lockheed said the alloy for this part is magnetized in the United States.
Company spokeswoman Laura Siebert said magnets on F-35s already delivered will not be replaced with magnets made from non-Chinese materials because the Pentagon has decided the magnets are safe for flight and do not put sensitive program information at risk.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2022 9:31 pm

ZK2A, Johnny Rotten, Makka and Old Bloke,

Thanks for your comments on Patton.

Carlo D’ Este’s biography “Patton – A Genius for War” is the best that I have read.

Rabz
September 9, 2022 9:33 pm

Bradley and Rommel appear to have been the only two sane Generals/ Field Marshals on either side

von Manstein being the most gifted. Responsible for Fall Gelb, the successful Siege of Sevastopol (1:1) and the retaking of Kharkov in March ’43. Hung on ’44 when ‘itler had gotten tired of the former proving the latter wrong. Lost his only son on the eastern front near Lake Ilmen in 1942.

Died in ’73 near München.

Pure Prussian Aristocracy.

Extinct as the Taxmanian Tigger. We shall never see their likes again.

Fortunately or Unfortunately. Take your pick.

Cassie of Sydney
September 9, 2022 9:33 pm

“The resistance to Hitler was significant and would have flourished with a little nurturing.”

Baloney.

Rabz
September 9, 2022 9:37 pm

The resistance to ‘itler was significant and would have flourished with a little nurturing

Until the commies fell in like the expedient cowards they’ve always been.

Peas in a pod.

JC
JC
September 9, 2022 9:44 pm

Sinclair texted me saying the Turtlehead was threatening a lawsuit. I reminded Sinclair that the Turtlehead posts under the blog name so how could be sue? He asked me to never converse with the Turtlehead again and said he’d tell him to do the same. Turtlehead followed the rule for a few months and then began groveling to me. He can’t fuck off.

Rabz
September 9, 2022 9:49 pm

JC – try some meditation, Squire.

The thinking of peaceful thoughts.

If that fails, then blast this.

You know you’d want to. 🙂

Arky
September 9, 2022 9:53 pm

The machine that goes “Bing”! must be going spastic right now.
NURSE!

JC
JC
September 9, 2022 9:53 pm

I’m quite “pre-meditated”. The Turtlehead is really pissing me off. He grovels to me, which I rebuff and then he becomes a spiteful bitch.

Rabz
September 9, 2022 9:57 pm

Peaceful thoughts, Squire – relaxin’ as you need to … 🙂

JC
JC
September 9, 2022 9:58 pm

Oh Look who wants to try a pile on.

None other than China’s biggest bugbear. Someone sent this to me on another system.

Arky says:
September 8, 2022 at 5:12 pm
I’ll tell you something else.
Every time I criticise the Chinese on one of these blogs, within hours I get hang up phone calls from random numbers in NSW. Every time.
So to the resident CCP agents reading this: Stick it up your a***.

I’m guessing Xi sent out orders the Thought Leader had to be silenced because the purchase of the non-Chinese sprocket set was just to much for the Chinese economy to handle.

cohenite
September 9, 2022 9:59 pm

Turtlehead was posting turgid nonsense scaring himself to death that the Chinese military was going to use regular passenger jets, land at Melbourne airport and begin to take over the country.

Sounds right. In addition, they plan to open a plethora of chunk take -a-way restaurants with yummy food laced with speed. Aussies will go berserk, attack each other in the streets and the corpses will provide food for the chunk wet markets. This is well known; so STFU head prefect, just let the anaesthetics do their work and stop living in the past.

Rabz
September 9, 2022 9:59 pm

A song that would (hopefully) remind you of when you first beheld Wifey, Squire 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 9, 2022 10:00 pm

the Chinese military was going to use regular passenger jets, land at Melbourne airport and begin to take over the country

To be fair, that was a pretty cool story.

JC
JC
September 9, 2022 10:01 pm

Thought leader is now the Sprocket Leader at least that’s the insider’s name for him in the Chinese Embassy. They’re terrified of the Sprocket Leader.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 9, 2022 10:02 pm

Mr Panzer, just now and apropos of the decorum thread:

What a sook fest.

Scented candles haven’t had a run yet.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 9, 2022 10:02 pm

There’s an interesting theory that the Japanese exploded a low-yield nuclear device in what is now North Korea.

They had no means of delivering it however, so not a game-changer.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2022 10:04 pm

Former special forces commando Heston Russell launches legal action against the ABC and two reporters

Sophie Elsworth
Media Writer
2 hours ago September 9, 2022

Former special forces commando Heston Russell is suing the ABC and two of its senior journalists for defamation in relation to two articles which accused him of war crimes during his military service in Afghanistan.

One article published on the ABC’s website in November last year claimed there was an active criminal investigation into conduct by the Australian Army’s November platoon in Afghanistan in 2012.

The article identified Russell as the commander of November platoon at the time.

The other article pertaining to the legal action was published in October 2020; it was headlined, “US marine says Australian special forces soldiers made ‘deliberate decision to break the rules of the war’”, and it was shared in a link within the November 2021 article.

The articles were written by ABC journalists Josh Robertson and Mark Willacy.

The court documents, lodged in the Federal Court on Thursday, claim the 2021 article, written by Robertson, carried several imputations that were defamatory of Russell, namely that he was “reasonably suspected” of committing war crimes when he was a commando in Afghanistan.

Russell claimed the story caused him serious harm by implying “he was involved in callously killing an Afghan prisoner during an operation in Helmand province in mid-2012 because the prisoner would not fit on a US aircraft”.

Willacy’s 2020 article included allegations about the November platoon, and they were “repeated and emphasised” in the 2021 story, according to the statement of claim.

“Russell has been gravely injured in his character, his personal reputation, and his professional reputation as a former member of the armed forces, and has suffered and will continue to suffer substantial hurt, distress and embarrassment,” the court documents state.

It’s also claimed the ABC failed to give Russell a proper opportunity to respond to the serious allegations made in both stories, and that Russell had repeatedly asked the ABC to remove the defamatory articles but the broadcaster refused to do so.

It wasn’t until two months later that the ABC amended the November 2021 story to include Russell’s denial.

Russell’s lawyers first issued the ABC, Robertson and Willacy with a concerns notice on July 26 but the parties have been unable to resolve the matter.

The Department of Defence on November 24 last year made a public statement that it did not confirm to the ABC or anyone else that there was an investigation into the November platoon.

In March this year, the ABC said its internal complaints unit, Audience and Consumer Affairs, responded to Russell’s grievances. It concluded that “no breach of the ABC’s editorial standards was found and the story remains online unchanged”.

“A&CA found that a clarification note would make one aspect of the story clearer and that has been added at the bottom of the story,” an ABC statement said.

However, in relation to the 2020 story, an aspect of a complaint about the article was “subsequently upheld for inaccuracy”, and the story was amended.

Russell said the ABC and its two journalists had failed to uphold the editorial standards of the national broadcaster.

“The ABC, despite accepting that the article contravened its own editorial standard of accuracy, has refused to take the story down and withdraw the serious allegations that it made,” he said in a statement.

The ABC has been contacted for comment.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2022 10:06 pm

Wut?
The NSW representative of Glorious Number 5 Revolutionary Socket Set Factory in Guangzhou is harassing purchasers of European spanners?
The dirty inscrutable dry-cleaners.

Rabz
September 9, 2022 10:06 pm

What a sook fest

The “West” 2022.

JC
JC
September 9, 2022 10:11 pm

Let’s give this a little consideration for a second.

We have to geniuses at work here.

The Turtlehead reckoned the Chinese will invade using China Airways and possibly book some seats on Etihad and Singapore Airlines. Meanwhile the Sprocket Leader reckons black Chinese made helicopters are circling around him. Situation is totally normal.

JC
JC
September 9, 2022 10:13 pm

two..

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2022 10:14 pm

There’s an interesting theory that the Japanese exploded a low-yield nuclear device in what is now North Korea.

I did read the same account. Surely, the explosion of a low – yield atomic device would have left some evidence behind?

Rabz
September 9, 2022 10:17 pm

Former commando Heston Russell is suing the ALPBC and two of its senior j’ismists for defamation in relation to two articles which accused him of (cue spooky muzak …) war crimes during his presence in ‘stan

I initially had some time for the “Former commando” and his appearances on Sky until they reported that he was posting “images” of himself on the internets.

A very sad denouement. 🙁

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2022 10:19 pm

A vintage not to be repeated

David Penberthy
SOUTH AUSTRALIA CORRESPONDENT
@penbo
An hour ago September 9, 2022
No Comments

In South Australia, the longevity of the Queen’s life and reign is best told by the fact that she outlasted the local car industry.

As South Australians remembered the Queen on Friday, many recalled her 1963 visit where she formally opened the new northern satellite suburb bearing her name, Elizabeth, which was also the home of General Motors Holden.

On that same visit, the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh visited the newly expanded Holden factory, where then premier Thomas Playford led them on a tour of the centre that stopped operating in 2020.

cohenite
September 9, 2022 10:19 pm

This chunk invasion scenario sounds like a Jet Jackson episode. That’s you and me behind the controls head prefect. I’m the handsome one.

JC
JC
September 9, 2022 10:23 pm

It’s always looks, penises and old film sets with you, Cronkite.

Cool show though. I loved the elevated landing pad. Those were the days when America was full of verve and optimism.

Rabz
September 9, 2022 10:27 pm

Sophie Elsworth

Appears regularly on Sky of an evening.

Blonde, strident, blessed with Madge Whitlamesque shoulders and a Gillardesque foghorn delivery.

Having said that, she’s more of a j’ismist than 93.1% of the collectivist frauds currently blundering around this country and the remainder of the planet, vainly in search of a Wankley.

JC
JC
September 9, 2022 10:32 pm

Hey Dover

I don’t believe anything that comes out of this war-zone. What do you think of this though .. forget the marvelous part?

Marvelous news ..so when can we expect Putin to resign

Russian troops surrender in droves as Putin’s army crumbles under Ukrainian onslaught

It’s not a gloat by the way. Curious for your counter.

Rabz
September 9, 2022 10:40 pm

Anarky in the UK

Happening now as it is, peoples … 😕

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 9, 2022 10:41 pm

Brisbane knocks Melbourne out of the race.

The Dees almost got back in it before Jake Lever and his trash ‘tache decided to make spectacles of themselves inside the Lions’ 50 and on the boundary line. Then surrendered a 50 metre penalty.

He’ll be Nigel No-mates in the rooms tonight, and for the next six months.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2022 10:46 pm

“Sliante” to all you horrible mob.

So, Charles, one time Prince of Wales, is now King Charles III. Anybody else think the Brits dodged a bullet, in Diana Spencer not being Queen?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The entire Commonwealth dodged a bullet there.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 9, 2022 10:48 pm

This is to match the Cravaggio

California man accused of beheading woman with a sword: report

Her head had been chopped off by a sword, the sources told the local outlet.

The suspect — whose name wasn’t immediately released — knew the victim, but their exact relationship wasn’t clear, the report said.

Rabz
September 9, 2022 10:53 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2022 10:53 pm

Arky says:
September 8, 2022 at 5:12 pm
I’ll tell you something else.
Every time I criticise the Chinese on one of these blogs, within hours I get hang up phone calls from random numbers in NSW. Every time.
So to the resident CCP agents reading this: Stick it up your a***.

OK.
This is how it works.
A telemarketing auto-call system rings scores of numbers simultaneously.
Most don’t answer.
When you answer there is no human on the call centre end. The auto-call system then connects with a human telemarketer, which causes a delay.
If that delay is more than a few seconds the call drops.
…..
You criticise the Chinese every day.
Telemarketers ring around every day.
Coincidence, not conspiracy.
…..
Bing-Bong!
Please increase your paranoia medication!
Bing-Bong!

Rabz
September 9, 2022 11:06 pm

Evely time I cliticise the chinese on one of these brogs, within hours I get hang up phone calls flom landom numbers in NSW. Evely time.
So to the lesident CCP agents leading this: Stick it up your asses.

At reast you’re on their ladar, Arks. They won’t even acknowredge my existence, Squire! 😕

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2022 11:08 pm

KD earlier.

The Dees almost got back in it before Jake Lever and his trash ‘tache decided to make spectacles of themselves inside the Lions’ 50 and on the boundary line. Then surrendered a 50 metre penalty.

The de-misters will be working overtime in their Range Rovers as they sob their way home to Brah-ton.
What a goose.
I had no interest in the outcome really, but FMD.
Their only hope was to toss the ball back and hope for a quick shot and a miss – always a chance from there.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 9, 2022 11:12 pm

As South Australians remembered the Queen on Friday, many recalled her 1963 visit where she formally opened the new northern satellite suburb bearing her name, Elizabeth …

I think Betty, like most people, would want to forget Elizabeth at the earliest opportunity.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 9, 2022 11:15 pm

The US Industrial Complex Is Starting to Buckle From High Power Costs
Surging bills are forcing companies to scale back industrial operations, threatening a greater drag on the economy.

Now soaring natural gas and electricity prices are starting to hit the US industrial complex.

On June 22, 600 workers at the second-largest aluminum mill in America, accounting for 20% of US supply, learned they were losing their jobs because the plant can’t afford an electricity tab that’s tripled in a matter of months. Century Aluminum Co. says it’ll idle the Hawesville, Kentucky, mill for as long as a year, taking out the biggest of its three US sites. A shutdown like this can take a month as workers carefully swirl the molten metal into storage so it doesn’t solidify in pipes and vessels and turn the entire facility into a useless brick. Restarting takes another six to nine months. For this reason, owners don’t halt operations unless they’ve exhausted all other options.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 9, 2022 11:16 pm

Surely, the explosion of a low – yield atomic device would have left some evidence behind?

Yes, but the NK’s won’t allow anyone in to inspect it.

rickw
rickw
September 9, 2022 11:20 pm

There’s an interesting theory that the Japanese exploded a low-yield nuclear device in what is now North Korea.

They had no means of delivering it however, so not a game-changer.

Japan has some uranium ore deposits, ironically near Fukushima IIRC. Both the IJN and IJA both had nuclear weapons programs.

I was in Japan shortly after Fukushima and there was a newspaper article with two elderly but sprightly Japanese men complaining that “nuclear had got them twice”. As young boys they had been tasked with collecting a particular type of rock that had brown spots. The brown spots were apparently uranium.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2022 11:22 pm

Yes, but the NK’s won’t allow anyone in to inspect it.

Fair comment.

Rabz
September 9, 2022 11:33 pm
rickw
rickw
September 9, 2022 11:42 pm

TE, potential Japanese A Bomb delivery mechanism. (Although it doesn’t appear that they knew that this delivery mechanism was working).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8HrqNqXtTQ

bons
bons
September 10, 2022 7:27 pm

What a genius is the Irish school teacher jailed by Dot’s beloved Irish scum for refusing to call boys girls.
He is jailed for contempt, but refuses to back off and says that he will stay in jail forever rather than betray his beliefs.
He has turned the tables on the whole commie trans scam and on the corrupt judiciary. Exemplary man – “never back off, never apologise”.
The rapidity with which the Irish traded a church dictatorship for a marxist dictatorship is extraordinary but is typically bog trotter.
Oh, and well done celebrating Elizabeth’s death at your shitty little football matches you bludging cnuts.

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