Open Thread – Tues 13 Sept 2022


The Duke of Marlborough and Prince Eugene Entering the French Entrenchments, Louis Laguerre, early 1700s

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bespoke
bespoke
September 13, 2022 2:31 pm

1st

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2022 2:31 pm

Ben Roberts-Smith reportedly attending Queen’s service
Staff writers
STAFF WRITERS

Ben Roberts-Smith is reportedly planning to attend the Queen’s funeral service as a recipient of the Victoria Cross.

The Afghanistan war veteran, who is suing Nine newspapers for defamation over allegations Mr Roberts-Smith was involved in unlawful killings during his time in Afghanistan, has been invited by Buckingham Palace as a matter of protocol, The Sydney Morning Herald reports.

Victoria Cross recipients from several Commonwealth nations had been invited to participate in an order of chivalry procession on the day of the Queen’s funeral.

m0nty
m0nty
September 13, 2022 2:33 pm

Hey cohenite, regale us with ripping yarns of your swashbuckling manly adventures as… a librarian. LOL.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 13, 2022 2:39 pm

Damn, just missed the podium.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
September 13, 2022 2:39 pm

Afternoon All

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 13, 2022 2:42 pm

m0ntysays:
September 13, 2022 at 2:33 pm
Hey cohenite, regale us with ripping yarns of your swashbuckling manly adventures as… a librarian. LOL.

Fair’s fair m0nty. If you’re going to call for him to make a revelation about himself you ought to start by describing the bravest and most manly thing you’ve ever done in your life.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 13, 2022 2:45 pm

Seventh!

Is it a sign?

cohenite
September 13, 2022 2:46 pm

Hey cohenite, regale us with ripping yarns of your swashbuckling manly adventures as… a librarian. LOL.

Sure dickless. Libraries are microcosms of society. I would see amidst the genuine readers, researchers and the like, the refuse and rejected who would come in to hide among the normal folk. I would offer them a bit of protection. I can imagine you loitering down the shelves between the periodicals and fiction sections. What was your favourite refuge dickless as you hid in the library away from the harsh world.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2022 2:49 pm

Ben Roberts-Smith is reportedly planning to attend the Queen’s funeral service as a recipient of the Victoria Cross.

Keith Payne, VC, says he’s going, provided he passes the medical.

cohenite
September 13, 2022 2:50 pm

Fair’s fair m0nty. If you’re going to call for him to make a revelation about himself you ought to start by describing the bravest and most manly thing you’ve ever done in your life.

Dickless thinks he’s on a winner and comes out shrivelled testicles swinging. There’s power in them books which is why I reckon dickless was loiterer in libraries when he was a young prick, hiding from the world.

m0nty
m0nty
September 13, 2022 2:58 pm

So you’re an actual working librarian, cohenite? Oh, this is priceless. cohenite the librarian, acts like he’s Schwarzenegger but actually he’s de Vito.

Libraries are microcosms of society. I would see amidst the genuine readers, researchers and the like, the refuse and rejected who would come in to hide among the normal folk. I would offer them a bit of protection.

So you’re a government employee as well, I take it. Good to hear you are supporting taxpayer-funded public goods and services to help out the less fortunate. I will try to remember this the next time you make a political point on behalf of corporate fat cats – though you don’t do much of that any more, just insults.

bespoke
bespoke
September 13, 2022 3:01 pm

Cohenite’s a male stripper that services nursing homes.

[No surmising people’s identities, please]

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 13, 2022 3:05 pm

cohenitesays:
September 13, 2022 at 2:50 pm
Fair’s fair m0nty. If you’re going to call for him to make a revelation about himself you ought to start by describing the bravest and most manly thing you’ve ever done in your life.

Dickless thinks he’s on a winner and comes out shrivelled testicles swinging. There’s power in them books which is why I reckon dickless was loiterer in libraries when he was a young prick, hiding from the world.

I don’t think munty would have braved the stacks, more like the ephemera in the reference section.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 13, 2022 3:07 pm

I’m surprised this thread isn’t dedicated to Uncle Jack Charles.
The ABC are telling me someone extraordinary and of nationally significance has passed away.
Who knew?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2022 3:07 pm

mUnty doing his best creepy Gargooglery impression. Give us more economic thought. Fuckwit.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 13, 2022 3:13 pm

Monty, the fantasy football chap is going to criticize a librarian for not being manly enough?

That would be the morbidly obese chap who took his kids to get their noses ‘rona reamed when they got a sniffle because the quivering blancmange was terrified they might pass it onto him.

But not terrified enough to drop weight/ reduce his own risk by stopping drinking the KFC mop bucket every evening.

cohenite
September 13, 2022 3:15 pm

I’m a lawyer dickless. Lawyers lie. Just like commies.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 13, 2022 3:18 pm

C’mon m0nty, overcome your innate modesty and thrill us with a tale of heroism.
Tell us how you got a nasty paper cut from a box of Krispy Cremes but struggled through the pain till you’d opened the box and hoovered them all.
Or is the PTSD still too raw for you to re-live that?

m0nty
m0nty
September 13, 2022 3:22 pm

I’m not the one throwing around insults about penises, that’s the librarian doing that. Obviously you would have to be a he-man to cast aspersions like that… or maybe cohenite is actually a clown.

cohenite
September 13, 2022 3:23 pm

So you’re an actual working librarian, cohenite? Oh, this is priceless. cohenite the librarian, acts like he’s Schwarzenegger but actually he’s de Vito.

Actually, my nickname was Conan the Librarian:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZHoHaAYHq8

cohenite
September 13, 2022 3:24 pm

I’m not the one throwing around insults about penises

That’s a lie; I would never insult a penis. I insult commies who are dickless.

bespoke
bespoke
September 13, 2022 3:25 pm

What kind of tea do soccer players drink?
Penal-Tea.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 3:29 pm

JCsays:

September 13, 2022 at 1:39 pm

Oh shit, there are black helicopters circling. Gotta go.

#metoo.
I think it is the Sun Tzu Brigade.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 13, 2022 3:33 pm

m0ntysays:
September 13, 2022 at 2:33 pm
Hey cohenite, regale us with ripping yarns of your swashbuckling manly adventures as… a librarian. LOL.

Question: What kind of people go into fantasy football?

Answer: Those for whom the mental and physical cut and thrust of librarianship is far too taxing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 3:34 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

September 13, 2022 at 3:07 pm

I’m surprised this thread isn’t dedicated to Uncle Jack Charles.
The ABC are telling me someone extraordinary and of nationally significance has passed away.
Who knew?

They’ve been searching for a token Aunty or Uncle to kick off since Friday.
They need a rallying point to go into a frenzy of mourning as a “compare and contrast” for their indifference to the passing of Lizzie* 2.0.
Archie Roach jumped the gun by a couple of weeks.

* Not pebblecrete Lizzie. Corgi Lizzie.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 3:35 pm

“Never bring a stick to a swordfight”.

– Sun Tzu.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 3:38 pm

I just got a call from my NBN provider.
They know my NBN service isn’t working, without me calling.
How do they know that?
I look at the bottom of my router and there it is … Made in Chai-ner.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 13, 2022 3:40 pm

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders — the most famous of which is, “Never get involved in a land war in Asia” — but only slightly less well-known is this: “Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line”

– Sun Tzu.

bespoke
bespoke
September 13, 2022 3:45 pm

‘Yes dear.’
Sun Tzu

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 13, 2022 3:48 pm

Sure dickless. Libraries are microcosms of society.

Drag queen story hour?

bespoke
bespoke
September 13, 2022 3:49 pm

‘What’s a fry pan?’
Sun Tzu

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 13, 2022 3:52 pm

#metoo.
I think it is the Sun Tzu Brigade

Pinochet ?

Indolent
Indolent
September 13, 2022 3:58 pm

I put a bunch of links at the end of the old thread. If anyone is interested, please go there.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2022 4:01 pm

Never bring a stick to a swordfight”.

“Never bring a pair of scissors to a gunfight”.

Lysander
Lysander
September 13, 2022 4:03 pm

Hey cohenite, regale us with ripping yarns of your swashbuckling manly adventures as… a librarian. LOL.

I personally don’t care what Cohenite is.

I can say, whatever it is, has to better than being a former “reporter” for a Records Keeping magazine RFLMAO!!!

“Mr Personality” 😛

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
September 13, 2022 4:04 pm

Always cook crispy bacon

Sun Tzu

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 13, 2022 4:05 pm

Is m0nty-fa going to give us the benefit of his vast (chuckle) economic knowledge in response to the Central Bankers thread?

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 4:07 pm

m0nty says:
September 13, 2022 at 3:22 pm

I’m not the one throwing around insults about penises, that’s the librarian doing that. Obviously you would have to be a he-man to cast aspersions like that… or maybe cohenite is actually a clown.

Fatboy, Cronkite’s a lawyer (albeit a family lawyer mostly likely). Lot’s of Lawyers appear to be extremely fond of books and we have friends in the US who are lawyers whose favorite pastime , I recall, was collecting first edition antique books. They eagerly went to auctions for first editions and old books. Lawyers love books, so it wouldn’t surprise that Cronkers has a librarian qualification just to learn how to properly catalogue books. You wouldn’t appreciate this vocation because you’re an uncultured, donut munching obese hippo.

calli
calli
September 13, 2022 4:09 pm

Aaarghhh! Here I be!

Off on the ferry to Split soon. Saw a few vessels designed to look like galleons, so I think I’ll be a pirate for a few hours.

Avast there mateys! Slit their gizzards and make them walk the plank!

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 13, 2022 4:10 pm

“When seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea.”

Sun Tzu

calli
calli
September 13, 2022 4:15 pm

Bother. I’m channelling my inner pirate and everyone else is being inscrutable.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 13, 2022 4:20 pm

Sir Roger is no moore.

Sun Connery

bespoke
bespoke
September 13, 2022 4:21 pm

Why don’t midgets ever get accepted into nudist colonies?
They keep sticking their noses into everyone else’s business.

calli
calli
September 13, 2022 4:23 pm

Watching from the hotel dining room – Queen Victoria is at anchor in the bay and all the little tenders are buzzing around like bees.

We saw her sail into Dubrovnik yesterday as we left. Looks like she’ll be following us up the coast.

I won’t board and pillage her just yet. Being a civilised pirate I shall wait until next year for the Iceland trip.

calli
calli
September 13, 2022 4:26 pm

Speaking of nudists, or rather the scantily clad – there are signs warning of heavy fines (EUR600-700) if you enter the town shirtless, in your cozzies, or inebriated.

The Croatians have had enough of yobs.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 4:27 pm

Hey MOnst. I’m sorry I make fat references about you all the time. If I keep doing it (making fat references) just ignore it as you’re bigger than that. 🙂

bespoke
bespoke
September 13, 2022 4:27 pm

First female midget pirate.

calli
calli
September 13, 2022 4:31 pm

😀

I gnaw the kneecaps. Stings horribly!

bespoke
bespoke
September 13, 2022 4:34 pm

LOL!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 13, 2022 4:38 pm

In Big Cola news:

New study reveals why diet cola could increase your risk of death

In a trial published in the British Medical Journal, which spanned 12 years and involved 103,000 people, researchers found that total artificial sweetener intake was associated with increased risk of fatal conditions such as heart disease and stroke.

“The findings from this large scale prospective cohort study suggest a potential direct association between higher artificial sweetener consumption (especially aspartame, acesulfame potassium and sucralose) and increased cardiovascular disease risk,” wrote Dr Mathilde Touvier, lead author on the study.

“Artificial sweeteners are present in thousands of food and beverage brands worldwide.

However not in beer, wine, or spirits.
Drink wisely.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 4:40 pm

Hvar, me hearties!!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 4:41 pm

“Never plant your tomatoes before Melbourne Cup Day”
– Sun Tzu.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 4:48 pm

“Stripes and checks should not be worn together”.

– Sun Tzu
Fashion Commissar.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 13, 2022 4:49 pm

Zulu

It was inevitable that cohenite, who acts online like he is a rough street-fighting hoodlum, was actually a mild-mannered librarian. What a poltroon.

Does anyone else see the irony in this statement?

Let me translate m0nty-fa’s words.

It was inevitable that m0nty-fa, who supports, but avoids, rough street-fighting hoodlums, was actually an innocuous fantasy footballer. What a poltroon.

Frank
Frank
September 13, 2022 4:51 pm

They should release a style of posh goon called Pinochet. Has a ring to it.

Lysander
Lysander
September 13, 2022 4:51 pm

Bespoke…

Two Jamaican Rastafarians went to an Emotions Party where you had to go dressed as an emotion.

A guy in red turned up and everyone worked out he was “anger” and another bloke turned up all in black and people worked out he was morbid.

Then these two Rastafarians (yeah mun, drink some rum mun) rock up, completely starkers! One has his member in a bowl of custard, the other with his member in a pear. Nobody can work out what they are.

The first Rasta says:

I’m deeply in dis-pear mun.

The second Rasta says:

And I’m fucking dis-custard.

(its the only joke i know)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 4:53 pm

It was inevitable that m0nty-fa, who supports, but avoids, rough street-fighting hoodlums, was actually an innocuous fantasy footballer. What a poltroon.

It must be said, though, this is the home of the “fight my fights vicariously from the couch”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 4:54 pm

“A man can stand many times.
But he can only fall once”.

– Sun Tzu

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 13, 2022 4:55 pm

REPORT THIS AD

Sun Tzu

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 4:57 pm

“Only barbarians and evil men serve their parmagiana on top of their chips.
Such men have no standing”.

– Sun Tzu.

Frank
Frank
September 13, 2022 5:00 pm

“fight my fights vicariously from the couch”.

As far as he is concerned, couch is a verb.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 13, 2022 5:04 pm

Doesn’t seem to be a great deal of academic riguer in ‘Uncle’ Jack’s life, or even theatre where he had roles on stage. Rather the contrary.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-13/uncle-jack-charles-aboriginal-actor-elder-theatre-film-tv/101336818

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 13, 2022 5:09 pm

Going through a bunch of incident reports for WA mines for a presentation.

Every 2nd incident is a fire on a vehicle, usually electrical.
I hope they have really, really thought about how long blokes underground will need to shelter after the first electric toyota catches alight at the bottom of the decline.

Chris
Chris
September 13, 2022 5:10 pm

Afternoon all! I greet you from the status of being newly employed.

Winston Smith
September 13, 2022 5:11 pm

Dover Beach is quite right as far as I can see in regards to the Russian ‘retreat’.
Consider the Rzevh Salient – a series of battles that threatened Moscow in ’42 – 43.
The Salient required 29 Divisions to hold it open. Had the Wehrmacht pulled out of this salient, it would have released 22 Divisions for redeployment across the front.
This creation of an Operational reserve would have reduced the pressure on the transport system on the Eastern Front. The Luftwaffe was suffering appalling losses to its Transport fleet while being engaged in North Africa, the Rzevh Salient and the stalled offensives in the south (Fall Blau)
Russia is now doing what needs to be done – creation of an Operational Reserve and not doing what seems to be a good idea on the map. Remember that the Rasputitsa is just around the corner as well.

Winston Smith
September 13, 2022 5:13 pm

Old Ozzie:

“Iran will be patient. … Winter is approaching and the EU is facing a crippling energy crisis. … The Americans [also] know they will have domestic problems if the energy crisis continues.”

One can only ask what the Biden Gang is being paid to cripple US oil production.

chrisl
chrisl
September 13, 2022 5:14 pm

Goodbye Uncle Jack….

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2022 5:15 pm

Doesn’t seem to be a great deal of academic riguer in ‘Uncle’ Jack’s life, or even theatre where he had roles on stage. Rather the contrary.

When did this habit of describing Aborigines as “Uncle” or “Auntie” begin?

Roger
Roger
September 13, 2022 5:17 pm

“Stripes and checks should not be worn together”.

– Sun Tzu

Actually…I think that was Moses.

cohenite
September 13, 2022 5:17 pm

Speaking of books, I have just re-read Jack Vance’s Demon Princes series. What a tragedy, first Jack Vance dead now Betty. In honour of Jack when I was senior librarian in charge of cataloguing and keeping general order by kicking unruly ruffians from the premises, I always put jack in the 810s rather than in the hoi poloi fiction section.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2022 5:20 pm

Daily Mail, regarding Ben Roberts – Smith V.C, attending the Queens funeral. Twitter, the weapon of utter cowards…..

The Age, Sydney Morning Herald and 60 Minutes reporter Nick McKenzie marked the occasion by tweeting that Mr Roberts-Smith has been the ‘subject of multiple… alleged war crimes investigations by the Australian Federal Police.’

No charges have ever been laid against Mr Roberts-Smith.

Mr Roberts-Smith is suing The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Canberra Times for defamation over 2018 reports claiming he committed war crimes in Afghanistan, as well as other allegations, all of which he denies.

Proceedings in the Federal Court case ended on July 27 after more than 100 days of hearings.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 5:23 pm

Thank God, Dover has the Turtlehead backing him up . I was getting worried.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 5:38 pm

He was a black in DC shooting a white woman. There was zero chance a DC jury was going to convict the killer.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2022 5:40 pm

Coroner to allow ‘racist texts’ from Zachary Rolfe in Kumanjayi Walker inquest

Matt Cunningham
Sky News Northern Australia Correspondent
@mattcunningham
An hour ago September 13, 2022

A coronor will allow “racist” text messages sent between Constable Zachary Rolfe and other members of the Alice Springs police to be admitted as evidence in the inquest into the death of Kumanjayi Walker.

Coroner Elisabeth Armitage has also ruled that the inquiry should hear testimony from Constable Rolfe’s ex-fiance Claudia Campagnaro, who is also a former Alice Springs police officer.

“I consider that both bodies of evidence are likely relevant to the issues likely to arise in these proceedings, and I will receive that evidence,” she said.

Ms Armitage is examining the circumstances surrounding the death of Mr Walker, who was shot dead by Constable Rolfe during a botch arrest attempt in the remote Indigenous community of Yuendumu on November 9, 2019.

In March a jury found Constable Rolfe not guilty of Mr Walker’s murder, and the reserve charges of manslaughter and engaging in a violent act causing death.

On Monday the inquest heard messages seized from Constable Rolfe’s phone after the shooting included “overtly racist” comments from one of his superiors.

Last week counsel assisting the coroner, Peggy Dwyer, had told the inquest the messages showed Constable Rolfe and other Alice Springs police officers had a negative attitude towards Aboriginal people and to police working in remote Indigenous communities.

Constable Rolfe’s lawyers had objected to the text messages being admitted as evidence in the inquest.

They argued the seizure of the messages for the purpose of a coronial investigation was unlawful, and “cannot be used in these proceedings”.

They also argued the messages were “too remote” to be relevant to the coronial investigation, and that their ventilation at the inquest could undermine Constable Rolfe’s acquittal by a jury.

But Ms Armitage disagreed.

“I consider that the phone was lawfully interrogated,” she wrote in her decision.

“But even if it was not, this would prohibit me from receiving the evidence.”

She said the messages could have a bearing on the findings and recommendations she might make under the Coroner’s Act.

“I would not have investigated this matter if there were not an evidentiary basis to suggest that Constable Rolfe and other police officers with whom he was communicating held racist views about Aboriginal people,” Ms Armitage wrote.

She said she accepted the submissions from counsel for Mr Walker’s family and others that “an available interpretation of the text messages is that they are prima facie evidence of racism, and within the Immediate Response Team and the Alice Springs Patrol Group”.

“Further, I accept the North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency’s submission that it is sufficient that this racism ‘may have played a role – conscious or unconscious – in the immediate acts causing death or in the broader structures concerning the IRT and its deployment.

“The inquest will inquire as to whether this is in fact the case.”

Northern Territory Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker says he was not involved in the decision to charge Constable Zachary Rolfe. “I completely reject any inference that I was in a meeting with the Chief Minister and the Director of Public Prosecutions. It is simply not true. It did not More

Ms Armitage said the argument that admitting the messages might undermine Constable Rolfe’s Supreme Court acquittal was “misconceived”.

“Provided I do not include in a finding or statement that a person is or may be guilty of an offence, it does not ‘controvert’ an acquittal for a Coroner to inquire into the facts underlying an offence of which the person has been acquitted,” she wrote.

The messages are yet to be tendered to the court.

The inquest continues.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 13, 2022 5:47 pm

I think the only responsible action is to withdraw all white racist services from remote “communities” to enable them to flourish as they surely will without the cold white colonial hand holding them back.

Nurses/teachers/technicians/police/doctors. All have apparently been infected with racism after exposure to life in the camps and day to day dealings with the aspiring rappers within.

Withdraw whities, and watch as the Wakanda of the north erupts like terminal arse chancre to point the way to the new dawn…

rickw
rickw
September 13, 2022 5:48 pm

It was inevitable that cohenite, who acts online like he is a rough street-fighting hoodlum, was actually a mild-mannered librarian. What a poltroon.

Most librarians would be capable of ripping you head off and shoving it up your arse.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 13, 2022 5:49 pm

Special Military Operation, Season 2

Things are starting to heat up.

Big Serge 13 hr ago

September 9 – 11 will go down in history as a period of great significance in the Russo-Ukrainian war. Both belligerent parties crossed very important thresholds, which taken together suggest that the war is entering a new phase. On the 9th and 10th, Ukraine achieved its first concrete success of the war by retaking all the Russian-held territory in Kharkov Oblast west of the Oskil river, including the western bank of Kupyansk and the transit node of Izyum.

Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin convened an emergency meeting of his national security council, which precipitated Russia’s own escalation on the 11th, when Ukrainian infrastructure was at long last subject to attack, plunging much of the country into darkness.

It seems clear that the war is entering a new phase, and it seems highly likely that both parties will attempt to take decisive action in the near feature. For now, let’s try to parse through the developments of the past week and get a handle on where the war is heading.

[also in Weekday Reading #22]

Zipster
Zipster
September 13, 2022 5:49 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 13, 2022 5:50 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2022 5:58 pm

The inquest continues.

The coroner has called Rolfe’s ex – fiance to give evidence, and she is tipping a bucket of shit all over him.

Indolent
Indolent
September 13, 2022 5:59 pm

This was one of the items I posted in the old thread and I’m repeating it because it’s mysterious and rather intriguing. Any ideas?

(WATCH) Is something major going to happen on September 24th?

Indolent
Indolent
September 13, 2022 6:03 pm

Dr. John Campbell quoting Medscape and the CDC.

44% of hospitalisations boosted

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 13, 2022 6:10 pm

fight you bastards, fight…

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/sep/12/gay-rights-group-was-set-up-to-promote-transphobic-activity-court-told

The gay rights organisation LGB Alliance was set up to “promote transphobic activity rather than pro-LGB activities”, the head of Consortium, an umbrella group of LGBT organisations told a court on Monday.

In the first full day of hearings in the appeal by the transgender rights charity Mermaids against the Charity Commission’s decision to award charitable status to LGB Alliance, Paul Roberts, the chief executive of Consortium, said that LGB Alliance was created to pursue an anti-trans agenda.

In cross-examination, Akua Reindorf QC, for LGB Alliance, repeatedly questioned whether the label transphobic was merited, arguing there were areas where the rights of lesbian, gay and bisexual people might not be aligned with the rights of trans people, justifying the creation of a separate charitable organisation.

..
Unpick the pathologies in this mass of mindworms..

Reindorf asked Roberts: “Do you think it is transphobic to say a person with a female body cannot be a gay man.” Roberts replied: “Yes.

Reindorf asked if being attracted to people of the same gender was “a qualitatively different thing” to being attracted to people of the same sex. “I don’t believe we live in such a clearcut, binary way,” Roberts replied.

Reindorf also highlighted concerns raised by LGB Alliance that some children who have been referred to gender identity services might otherwise have gone on to be gay, but were offered puberty blockers as treatment for gender dysphoria.

She cited media interviews with Tavistock gender clinic staff warning that possible same-sex attraction was being ignored and noted that some clinicians had said sending children who may be gay down the pathway to change gender felt like “conversion therapy”.

Roberts said there were “elements of transphobia” in that position.


Roberts was also asked to address the question of whether lesbians should be refused membership of lesbian dating sites if they stated they would refuse to date trans women and to state whether he agreed with comments made by Nancy Kelley, the chief executive of Stonewall, that not wanting to date trans people was “sexual racism”.

It is understood to be the first time one charity has attempted to remove legal status from another. The hearing will continue until Friday.

Winston Smith
September 13, 2022 6:11 pm

Fair Shake:

Can I ask how cats would respond? I could only think sex and travel. I’m sure Douglas Murray or cats could do better. Anyone?

Simplest answer is to rewrite your BBQ invitations list.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 13, 2022 6:12 pm

Since the are going into Rolfes text messages to prove “racism” I doubt they will be raising all the drunkeness, domestic violence, assaults, etc that might might have led any normal cop to have a negative view.

I don’t think their views would be any different if the locals had been all white but behaving in a similar manner.

I hope the above is not indicating the Chief Minister was involved in the decision to charge Rolfe as that is totally inappropriate.

cohenite
September 13, 2022 6:13 pm

“Provided I do not include in a finding or statement that a person is or may be guilty of an offence, it does not ‘controvert’ an acquittal for a Coroner to inquire into the facts underlying an offence of which the person has been acquitted,” she wrote.

That’s bullshit. An acquittal is inviolate. However, we have seen examples of people acquitted criminally still liable for damages at a civil standard. Rolfe is going to be positioned for litigated damages on racial grounds.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 13, 2022 6:19 pm

In a trial published in the British Medical Journal, which spanned 12 years and involved 103,000 people, researchers found that total artificial sweetener intake was associated with increased risk of fatal conditions such as heart disease and stroke.

Diet cola’s the fall guy.

The killer is the decision-making of monstrous, front-of-thigh-tattoo-having, cellulite-infested swamp donkeys heaving their way through shopping centres to gargle cheeseburgers and mayonnaise from litre bottles 20 hours a day, and shart the other four.

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2022 6:19 pm

“New Zealanders on Prozac once were worriers”
–Pun Tzu

Winston Smith
September 13, 2022 6:20 pm

Mother Lode:

if unaddressed, may cause a “technological Noah’s ark” scenario in which “elites” escape what he framed as planetary catastrophe for humanity.

They are so blithely self-unaware.

Imagine, if you will, an O’Neill Cylinder, scooting out of the solar system. All the systems have been designed by the ‘Elites’. There are no homeless, no poor downtrodden masses yearning to be free.
Who’s going to take out the rubbish?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 13, 2022 6:20 pm

Rolfe is going to be positioned for litigated damages on racial grounds

I suspect it’s the entire NT jack shop that’s going to be locked into a civil ‘systemic racism’ death match for the next several decades.

Cassie of Sydney
September 13, 2022 6:28 pm

Tonight on his Sky programme, Chris Kenny tried to dismiss the concerns of those of us who are opposed to the Voice because he says that most of those who are opposed to the Voice are also monarchists. Don’t know where he conjured that up from. Because Kenny has decided that those who are Voice opponents are antiquated monarchists, Kenny describes the arguments of the opponents of the Voice as “paradoxical” and “inconsistent. He then says, and my jaw dropped, that those who are anti the Voice are wrong to argue that it will give greater rights to one race of people (it will), instead Kenny insists that our worries are misplaced because, and without flinching, he insists that the “Voice” is not about race, rather it is actually about it being about the descendants of the original inhabitants and there are having no rights being awarded on race, instead only a “fair and reasonable chance to have a say on the issues effecting them”.

Words fail me.

Vote NO to the Voice.

Winston Smith
September 13, 2022 6:29 pm

Cassie of Sydney:

Except it isn’t. The Greens’ vote is increasing at every election.

Be positive.
Think of it as “The pool of idiots requiring learning about shit the hard way, increasing at a rapid rate, whilst we bemused look on and laugh.”
Entertainment to last a lifetime.

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 13, 2022 6:30 pm

It was inevitable that cohenite, who acts online like he is a rough street-fighting hoodlum, was actually a mild-mannered librarian. What a poltroon.
That’s trolling from Monty, as per his output 95% of the time.
Where’s the value?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 13, 2022 6:32 pm

I am Librarian.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 13, 2022 6:34 pm

The headline from 5.39:

New Zealand Scraps Nearly All COVID-19 Restrictions, Including Mask and Vaccination Mandates

Hang on. That wasn’t part of the plan. The lockdowns mustn’t have been the real method for herding people around and killing them, thus depopulating the planet as Klaus foretold.

Maybe it was a practice run. Maybe it was the chemtrails all along. Hmm.

God, what was I thinking all this time? It was the chemtrails and missiles under Ayers Rock! Had to be! Those dudes fooled me for a while, but now I’m quite content I have something mysterious to rail against until the End of Days.

Which will be soon. Because of Klaus.

cohenite
September 13, 2022 6:35 pm

BOM weather report:

Key atmospheric and oceanic indicators of the El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) show an established La Niña. Tropical Pacific sea surface temperatures have been cooling since June and are now at La Niña thresholds. Atmospheric indicators including the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI), trade wind strength, and equatorial cloudiness are also displaying patterns typical of a La Niña event.

Models indicate this La Niña event may peak during the spring and return to neutral conditions early in 2023. La Niña events increase the chances of above-average rainfall for northern and eastern Australia during spring and summer.

The negative Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD) event continues. The IOD index has satisfied negative IOD thresholds (i.e. at or below ?0.4 °C) since June, with the latest weekly value being ?0.8 °C. All surveyed climate models agree that negative IOD conditions are likely to continue into late spring. A negative IOD event is typically associated with above average spring rainfall for much of Australia. When a La Niña and negative IOD combine, it further increases the likelihood of above average rainfall over Australia, particularly in the eastern half of the continent.

The Southern Annular Mode (SAM) is currently in a positive phase and is likely to be mostly positive for the coming three months. During the spring months, a positive SAM has a wetting influence for parts of eastern New South Wales and far eastern Victoria, but a drying influence for western Tasmania.

The Madden–Julian Oscillation (MJO) continues to show a weak signal with most models suggesting it will remain weak for at least the next seven days. A weak MJO is unlikely to have much impact on Australian climate

Roger
Roger
September 13, 2022 6:39 pm

Tonight on his Sky programme, Chris Kenny tried to dismiss the concerns of those of us who are opposed to the Voice…

Worth mentioning in this context, perhaps, that Kenny is a former Chief of Staff to Maladroit Trumble Esq..

Cassie of Sydney
September 13, 2022 6:40 pm

I was speaking with a work colleague yesterday, someone who’s a far-left Guardian reading progressive, at every moment this person spruiks the Voice or some other fashionable progressive cause, and when this person does rant on, I remain shtum. Anyway, this person, who knows I’m a conservative and who knows I’m someone who reads the Oz and watches spooky wooky “Sky after Dark”, was waxing lyrical about the Voice, and then in the next breath asked me, “Cassie, how much Sky television have you watched over the last few days”.

I was quite taken aback.

I replied, “I can never watch too much Sky, particularly Sky after Dark”.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 13, 2022 6:43 pm

I cannot understand the stance Kenny has taken on the Voice issue for a commentator who has previously demonstrated such common sense on so many issues (the climate scam and renewables especially).

To argue that the process is not race based is insane.

My forebears arrived on a convict ship from Ireland in 1818. I consider my self and my issue indigenous.

Why not a separate voice to Parliament for descendants of Irish convicts? Because it would be stupid. As is the the argument for the Voice.

But he is from Adelaide.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 13, 2022 6:53 pm

Speaking of librarians – who can ever forget the beautiful, bewitching Rachel Weisz staring into a campfire at Hamunaptra saying to Brendan Fraser in a very seductive and tipsy tone
“I…..am…..a…. LIBRARIAN”. (The Mummy, 1999)

Roger
Roger
September 13, 2022 6:54 pm

Worth mentioning in this context, perhaps, that Kenny is a former Chief of Staff to Maladroit Trumble Esq..

How could I forget?…Maladroit Blight Trumble, Esq..

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 13, 2022 6:54 pm

Who cares what “senior officials” think?

Senior officials at Australia’s High Commission in London are deeply concerned and unhappy about Ben Roberts-Smith’s invitation to Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral, with sources close to the arrangements saying they did not expect the Victoria Cross recipient to accept the invitation.

Mr Roberts-Smith — who is awaiting the judgement of his high-profile defamation case against the Nine newspapers over allegations he was a war criminal — is travelling to London to join the commemorations alongside three other Australian VC recipients.

The invitations were immediately issued to the four recipients as part of Operation London Bridge, but The Australian understands DFAT officials linked to Australia House are deeply concerned Mr Roberts-Smith will be attending the Queen’s funeral.

One source with knowledge of the funeral arrangements told The Australian the High Commission initially thought the 43-year-old would decline the invitation because of his high-profile trial and the impending judgment.

Alongside Mr Roberts-Smith, fellow Afghanistan veterans Mark Donaldson and Daniel Keighran will attend the funeral, as well as Vietnam veteran Keith Payne.

The Australian understands only Mr Donaldson has been invited to participate in the Order of Chivalry procession and see the late monarch lying-in-state in the Palace of Westminster.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 13, 2022 6:54 pm

You’ll be pleased to know that for the entire pandemic and the many variants that case fatality rates for under forties did not change one jot in Australia.
0.05%
Locked down, locked out and jabbed for zero benefit and with zero medical justification.
Criminal behaviour that needs punishment.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I’m a librarian too.

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 13, 2022 6:56 pm

Kenny mistakes the Royals as having Power, when they have for the most part Duty.
Their value is also in denying some powers from those who might go full Brandon.
His smear was not worthy, and he is usually capable of much better.

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 13, 2022 6:57 pm

We are all Librarians now.

Mater
September 13, 2022 7:00 pm

No, I am ‘Librarian’!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 7:03 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

September 13, 2022 at 6:28 pm

Tonight on his Sky programme, Chris Kenny tried to dismiss the concerns of those of us who are opposed to the Voice because he says that most of those who are opposed to the Voice are also monarchists. Don’t know where he conjured that up from.

Why not say most of those who support Da Voice are Republicans.
The latest talking points tie up colonialism, the Republic and Da Voice.
It isn’t a stretch to see where this goes next.
A Republic with the Head of State role filled by a Council of Wise Aunties and Uncles.

shatterzzz
September 13, 2022 7:03 pm

My forebears arrived on a convict ship from Ireland in 1818. I consider my self and my issue indigenous.
I didn’t arrive until 1967 and I’m still a”pom”, once “toon” always “toon”, but my ex ( ancestry from 2nd fleet, 1790) ALL my kids(4) & grandees (8) were born here so they are indigenous …..

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2022 7:04 pm

“The findings from this large scale prospective cohort study suggest a potential direct association between higher artificial sweetener consumption (especially aspartame, acesulfame potassium and sucralose) and increased cardiovascular disease risk,” wrote Dr Mathilde Touvier, lead author on the study.

What is the mechanism?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 7:04 pm

No battle will be successful if the generals ignore the nuances of the Dewey Decimal system.

– Sun Tzu.

Cassie of Sydney
September 13, 2022 7:05 pm

“A Republic with the Head of State role filled by a Council of Wise Aunties and Uncles.”

No thank you, I’ll stick with Chilla and Camilla.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 13, 2022 7:06 pm

Hang on. That wasn’t part of the plan. The lockdowns mustn’t have been the real method for herding people around and killing them, thus depopulating the planet as Klaus foretold.

Correct, Covid was just a warm-up, the real war is the klimate war, and the real targets are the food, the fuel, the transport system and the power system. Watch as it all unfolds … if it was worth locking us down to save grandma, imagine what they will do to save mother earth.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 7:06 pm

The first battle in any war is to attribute dodgy quotes to one’s enemies.

– Sun Tzu.

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2022 7:06 pm

dover0beach says:
September 13, 2022 at 5:25 pm
Jack Posobiec ??
@JackPosobiec
Ashli Babbitt’s Shooter Admitted He Didn’t Know If She Was Threat, But Was Cleared Without Criminal Investigation
What a hero.

Good luck having a civilian saying the same.

Rittenhouse got lucky with a fair judge and competent counsel.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 13, 2022 7:06 pm

I’m a librarian too.

I’m just saying that a single-post revolving display stand brim-full of geography tomes gets me hot.

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2022 7:07 pm

*and Rittenhouse was innocent, doofi.

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2022 7:09 pm

“A Republic with the Head of State role filled by a Council of Wise Aunties and Uncles.”

I’d rather end the Federation.

cohenite
September 13, 2022 7:09 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
September 13, 2022 at 6:55 pm
I’m a librarian too.

I was a mobile librarian; if they wouldn’t come to me, I came to them.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 13, 2022 7:09 pm

DFAT officials linked to Australia House are deeply concerned Mr Roberts-Smith will be attending the Queen’s funeral.

I should think so! imagine how we will look if he ‘bloods’ a newbie or kicks a hands bound insurgent off a cliff during the funeral.

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2022 7:12 pm

Imagine if his ex wife turns up and meets Meghan Sparkles…we’ll need Lindsay Lohan because it will be Mean Girls – The Sequel.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2022 7:14 pm

Teal independent MP advocating for electric vehicles owns Tesla CFDs

In her maiden speech, ‘Teal’ independent MP Sophie Scamps backed “making electric vehicles affordable for everyday Australians”. But she has a financial interest in Tesla, it can be revealed.
John Rolfe
John Rolfe
@publicdefender
2 min read
September 13, 2022 – 5:46PM
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‘Teal’ independent Sophie Scamps used her maiden speech to federal parliament in August 2022 to advocate for electric vehicles.

Sydney ‘teal’ independent Sophie Scamps faces a call to exclude herself from parliamentary debate of electric vehicle policy because she has a financial interest in Tesla — held in a family trust.

After winning the northern suburbs seat of Mackellar at the May federal election by campaigning for increased integrity in politics and action on climate change, Dr Scamps did not disclose the holding in her initial declaration on the register of members’ interests.

Her family’s bet on the fortunes of the world’s best-known maker of electric vehicles was revealed in an update which came after she had used her House of Representatives first speech to advocate for “making electric vehicles affordable for everyday Australians”.

During the election campaign, she said “owning an EV should not be a privilege or a luxury.”

Dr Scamps does not directly own Tesla shares. Rather, her family trust holds Tesla CFDs, or contracts for difference. Australia’s investment regulator says a CFD is a “high-risk, leveraged derivative contract” that “allow(s) you to speculate on the short-term movements” in a share’s price.

Dr Scamps told The Telegraph: “My husband and I decided to invest in Tesla back in 2019, well before I had any intention to enter politics.

“We made this decision as it aligned with our family’s values, and our belief that the world must transition to a net zero future if we are to leave our children a liveable world.”

It’s understood the MP’s husband, former ACT Brumbies centre Adam Magro, is a sophisticated investor.

Liberal senator for NSW Hollie Hughes said Dr Scamps either had to “offload” the Tesla CFDs or bow out of EV policy debate.

“There’s a reasonably direct conflict of interest there,” Ms Hughes said.

“Tesla would be the major beneficiary”, she added, of the teals’ push to make EVs more affordable through tax breaks and other concessions.

eric hinton
eric hinton
September 13, 2022 7:17 pm

try again…

He came up behind him like a librarian

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 13, 2022 7:21 pm

Eth merge is less than 48h away ppl.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 13, 2022 7:22 pm

Maladroit Blight Trumble

I saw what you did there.
Well played sir.

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2022 7:23 pm

There is a move to have Visa and MasterCard track all firearm transactions in the US if they already don’t.

Obviously guns are going to be bought for cash, crypto, gold, silver or barter now.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 13, 2022 7:23 pm

I love librarians (well, not bloke ones).

Their staid dress and glasses looking so prim and proper.

Although the lass on stage at the Crazy Horse in Kenny’s home town decades ago may have affected my judgement as she changed characters and flashed the flange..

Roger
Roger
September 13, 2022 7:24 pm

Senior officials at Australia’s High Commission in London are deeply concerned and unhappy about Ben Roberts-Smith’s invitation to Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral, with sources close to the arrangements saying they did not expect the Victoria Cross recipient to accept the invitation.

Pardon the French, but just fuck right off.

It’s between the Palace and Roberts-Smith.

Roger
Roger
September 13, 2022 7:26 pm

Maladroit Blight Trumble

I saw what you did there.
Well played sir.

Reassured that my work here is not in vain, osc.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2022 7:26 pm

It’s between the Palace and Roberts-Smith.

Fair comment.

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2022 7:26 pm

Consider “fake” but legal persons.

Only non fraudulent way I know of us to use entities to make arms length as possible.

Righties might want to register a few BLM “insert county name” LLCs and issue company cards.

“It is great the mostly peaceful BLM are acquiring arms so we can gun control those piece of shit white normies…”

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 7:27 pm

Obviously guns are going to be bought for cash, crypto, gold, silver or barter now.

Probably cash. I can’t imagine BillyBeau heading into a gun shop with a quarter horse to barter a rifle.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 13, 2022 7:27 pm

Obviously guns are going to be bought for cash, crypto, gold, silver or barter now.

or printed at home…

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
September 13, 2022 7:28 pm

I am starting to get the impression that the Walker inquest is a two bob kangaroo court set up with the aim of forever destroying Zac Rolfe’s life.

It must rankle those virtue signalling arseholes in the NT that Rolfe was acquitted of any crime connected with shooting dead that crazed “aspiring rapper”.

The more I hear of these activist judges, magistrates and now a coroner, the less faith I have in our legal system.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 13, 2022 7:28 pm

the lass on stage at the Crazy Horse in Kenny’s home town

Won a hybrid fairway wood once at a week-long pissfest, aka industry golf championship in Perth. I named it after a lady person with the stage name of Porsche at a similar establishment there.

That ho ain’t treated me right since.

Mater
September 13, 2022 7:30 pm

Obviously guns are going to be bought for cash, crypto, gold, silver or barter now.

The way ammo prices are stratospheric, it’s going to be the new currency.

Cassie of Sydney
September 13, 2022 7:32 pm

“I am starting to get the impression that the Walker inquest is a two bob kangaroo court set up with the aim of forever destroying Zac Rolfe’s life.”

Yep.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2022 7:37 pm

I am starting to get the impression that the Walker inquest is a two bob kangaroo court set up with the aim of forever destroying Zac Rolfe’s life.

Call me uncharitable, but, reading the NT papers on – line, I’m of the opinion that the inquest was set up to placate the local aspiring rappers, after Zac Rolfe was found “Not Guilty.”

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 7:41 pm

What do I know, but ammo doesn’t appear to be hugely expensive. This joint is selling 357 magnum bullets for under a buck a bullet.

Is that expensive?

I can’t believe you can buy this stuff online and they would actually send it through the post or FedEx. But then., this is America and what made the place great.

I just realized, go to the link at your own risk because Federal police could be checking to see who’s interested. I already went.

It would be interesting to see if you can provide a mail box or re-shipment address. But I’m not trying it out.

miltonf
miltonf
September 13, 2022 7:43 pm

Who cares what “senior officials” think?

Senior officials at Australia’s High Commission in London are deeply concerned and unhappy

exactly- fuck off Canbra pubic foreign affairies parasites. What a grotesque abomination that department is.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 13, 2022 7:43 pm

ABC header
In sharing his story, Uncle Jack Charles opened Australia’s eyes to wider truths

Spending most of your adult life on smack and jailed twenty two times is an eye opener that’s for sure.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
September 13, 2022 7:48 pm

When Roberts-Smith walks passes Elbow at the funeral he should do a ‘Benny Hill’ pat on his head.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2022 7:48 pm

Worth mentioning in this context, perhaps, that Kenny is a former Chief of Staff to Maladroit Trumble Esq

Kenny was a staffer to a series of Lieborals. Waffleworth was near the end of the line. He is, however, … South Australian.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2022 7:53 pm

The latest talking points tie up colonialism, the Republic and Da Voice

Expect to see a bit of this.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 7:57 pm

Interesting:

I put in a NYC zip code and this message pinged back.

We’re sorry, but we cannot ship ammunition to New York City, not even to a licensed dealer. We are, however, able to ship to licensed dealers located outside of the city limits. We apologize for the inconvenience.

I reckon that would be unconstitutional or perhaps they can get away with it arguing population density makes it dangerous to ship ammo.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 7:59 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

September 13, 2022 at 7:05 pm

“A Republic with the Head of State role filled by a Council of Wise Aunties and Uncles.”

No thank you, I’ll stick with Chilla and Camilla.

Much as I am not a massive fan of Chuck III, my preference is for someone who is unlikely to intefere in Australian politics.
Now Chuck III is slightly more likely to do that than Betty II, but nothing compared to someone sponsored by the likes of Holmes a Court or Bandana Man.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 8:01 pm

“A Republic with the Head of State role filled by a Council of Wise Aunties and Uncles.”

That would be a truly wonderful way to go – truly inspirational.

Winston Smith
September 13, 2022 8:03 pm

Indolent:
https://endtimeheadlines.org/2022/09/watch-is-something-major-going-to-happen-on-september-24th/
I don’t know, but I marked the 23rd on my calendar for drinkies +++ with the mates.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 8:04 pm

Dot

Under the US constitution can ammo be legally categorized differently to the right to bear arms (guns)?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2022 8:05 pm

A Republic with the Head of State role filled by a Council of Wise Aunties and Uncles

Spoken like an Adam Bandt focus group. Noice work.

chrisl
chrisl
September 13, 2022 8:06 pm

My daughter is a librarian ( yes really)
And she walks in the general area of Monty
Watch out Monty

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 13, 2022 8:07 pm

ABC header
In sharing his story, Uncle Jack Charles opened Australia’s eyes to wider truths

Fuck.
Missed them.
Completely.
Fuck!

Winston Smith
September 13, 2022 8:12 pm

It was inevitable that cohenite, who acts online like he is a rough street-fighting hoodlum, was actually a mild-mannered librarian. What a poltroon.

ZK2A:

Does anyone else see the irony in this statement?

Sorry ZK2A – the stupidity has hidden the irony too well.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 8:15 pm

“You’ve got to ask yourself one question.
Do I feel lucky?
Well, do ya, punk?”

– Sun Tzu.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 8:16 pm

Dover

I thought pile ons such as the example above were banned after the your thread about comportment- even if it’s Fatboy. If anyone was ever unsure why I can’t stand the turtlehead, the above is a great example of why I consider him to be a vile poisonous prick with zero attributes to any blog.

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2022 8:19 pm

Maybe it was a practice run

said in jest right?

Stanley Milgram wept because he knew the truth

… but that’s just speculation on my part

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
September 13, 2022 8:26 pm

Happy to announce I have never heard of Jack Charles.

Devastated that I missed out on his “wider truths”.

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2022 8:26 pm

Yes JC.

A good summary is here.

There is one decision, Heller, which is then underpinned by the later case in a lower court of record.

https://reason.com/2019/09/05/walmarts-ammo-sales-decision-doesnt-violate-the-second-amendment-but-the-government-ordering-them-to-stop-selling-ammo-would/?utm_medium=email

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2022 8:27 pm

I mean no, they are hand in hand.

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2022 8:29 pm

I did remember it correctly, Tom G Palmer was involved in Heller v DC.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 8:29 pm

Thanks Dot.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 13, 2022 8:33 pm

We don’t calculate inflation on the price movement of an ice cream cone over a period of time. We calculate it across a basket of goods.

Ok, I’ve expanded my model by 200%

Pine Lime splice in 1973 = 17c, now = $3.50 (95% loss of purchasing power)

Petrol in 1973 = 9cpl, now = $1.65 ( 95% loss)

Gold in 1973 = $75/Oz, now = $2500 ( 97% loss)

yep… I’m happy with the model.

Cassie of Sydney
September 13, 2022 8:37 pm

My God, Paul Murray just had on the execrable Kathy Lette. I turned the volume down.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 8:40 pm

Duk

Your model isn’t great and here’s why. The RBA only began to follow inflation targeting in the early 90s. There was no target before that and we were a very high inflation country prior to the imposition of the target.

You need to make your calculation after the imposition and lets agree that prior to that inflation in Australia was very high.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 8:43 pm

Turtlehead.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 8:46 pm

Dover

Just so I understand, you had to ask the question, “what pile-on” because you were unable to figure it from my first comment alerting you? Really?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Senior officials at Australia’s High Commission in London are deeply concerned and unhappy about Ben Roberts-Smith’s invitation to Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral

Don’t that just warm your heart?
I feel better already.

If those cockheads with their reverse-midas intuitiveness are ‘deeply concerned’ that’s good enough for me!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

OMFG! The George Cross has been debased.
When doing the daily quiz just now I discovered that the entire NHS was collectively awarded the George Cross last year.

This is an obscenity.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 8:55 pm

Duk

The Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) adopt its official inflation target in 1993, where it aimed to keep inflation within a range of 2 to 3 per cent, on average, over the cycle.

Using the implicit deflator between 1993 to the present the inflation rate has been 2.68% compounded.

here:

Deflator, 1993 was 56.7 vs 122.15 in 2022.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 8:58 pm

Then clarify exactly what you mean by a pile -on if it’s not two or more people piling onto someone else.

Stop it with the ambiguity and get some freaking control.

These indirect discussions about others are poison and kunt is always doing it.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 9:00 pm

Oh, you mean Monty getting some stick for picking a fight with cohenite? I don’t class that a pile-on.

You think I was talking about Teslas? What else did you think I was talking about by asking?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

For 99% of my life Malta George Cross was the only collective award.
The award 10-15 yrs ago to the entire RUC, at time of it being disbanded, that was fair enough.

But the NHS tik-tokkers? This is a deliberate devaluation of the award.
Who in their right mind would seriously consider NHS staff to be in the same league of bravery & endurance as the RUC or the people of Malta?

King Chilla should find out who was behind this & order their head chopped off.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 13, 2022 9:06 pm

But the NHS tik-tokkers? This is a deliberate devaluation of the award.

There are six Georges spinning underground at 8000rpm at the thought, going ‘no chance I’m being associated with that shit.’

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 9:06 pm

dover0beachsays:

September 13, 2022 at 8:53 pm

Oh, you mean Monty getting some stick for picking a fight with cohenite? I don’t class that a pile-on.

Not sure how that differs from last week’s definition of a ‘pile-on’.
Lizzie got in a blue with someone who was very persistent, with a bit of peripheral commentary on both sides.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Pile-on: (a) when two or more people mock another. (b) when two or more people simultaneously disagree with JC.
(c) any pile-on is okay and is not actually a pile-on if JC plus one or more others are ganging up in mocking another.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 13, 2022 9:12 pm

I discovered that the entire NHS was collectively awarded the George Cross last year.

Lefties love giving each other awards. Pretty much every award lower than the VC is now like the mauve elephant stamp you got in kindergarten. Meaningless. Walklies and Pulitzers especially.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 13, 2022 9:13 pm

Happy to announce I have never heard of Jack Charles. Devastated that I missed out on his “wider truths”.

Check this out then:

Jack Charles: ‘I’d rob to collect rent for stolen Aboriginal land’

Six stark words epitomised Charles on the tagline of a 2009 documentary about him: Addict. Homosexual. Cat burglar. Actor. Aboriginal.

He is, of course, much more than the sum of these parts. In the decade since, the 75-year-old has ended the cycle of prison, homelessness and heroin which dictated much of his adult life and informed his acclaimed work.

Now he’ll only participate in arts festivals on the strict condition he’s flown business class, never economy. He refuses to do auditions – directors must take him for coffee if they desire him for a role.

It’s a far cry from his days “crawling into a ball and sleeping in the girls’ public toilets” but, with characteristic self-deprecation, he says: “I know I sound up myself but it’s nice to be able to say that as a blackfella. I reckon I haven’t done too badly for an old crim!”

More from the BBC

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 9:13 pm

I take a pile-on as a group targeting an innocent party.

What defines an “innocent party” in an online stoush?
Is it, for example, the one who uses oblique, passive-aggressive “Top Table” tactics as against someone who is more direct?

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 9:13 pm

Who defines the innocent party? You do capriciously, because if you went by the standard you’re attempting to change the rule. Liz wouldn’t be an innocent party. In fact Fatboy would be far innocent in relative terms.

You should apply your rules fairly and not make it up as you go along.

m0nty
m0nty
September 13, 2022 9:16 pm

I take a pile-on as a group targeting an innocent party.

For those who want to bring up the presumption of innocence: no. The tradition of the Cat is that the mod is Judge Dredd: judge, jury and executioner. A history I fully support.

JC, don’t get wishy-washy on me. I can handle the librarian and his nerd posse.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2022 9:16 pm

<blocZachary Rolfe’s ’use of force covered up’

Matt Cunningham
Sky News Northern Australia Correspondent
@mattcunningham
32 minutes ago September 13, 2022

Senior Northern Territory police were constantly covering up Constable Zachary Rolfe’s unjustified use of force, according to statements made by his former fiance.

Claudia Campagnaro – a former Alice Springs police officer – also told investigators Constable Rolfe had told her he liked being a soldier because “it was good money and they could go out and kill people”.

Parts of Ms Campagnaro’s statements were published by Coroner Elisabeth Armitage after she ruled her evidence was relevant in the inquest into the death of Indigenous man Kumanjayi Walker, whom Constable Rolfe shot dead during a botched arrest attempt at Yuendumu on November 9, 2019.

The coroner also ruled “racist” text messages exchanged between Constable Rolfe and other Alice Springs police officers should be admitted as evidence.

In her published decision, Ms Armitage detailed passages from three statements Ms Campag­naro gave investigators as part of the coronial brief of evidence.

In one of those, she said a female detective had scratched Constable Rolfe’s face to provide “justification” for him punching Aboriginal man Malcolm Ryder during an arrest in January 2018.

Mr Ryder was subsequently charged with hindering and assaulting police. He was later acquitted by judge Greg Borchers, who found aspects of Constable Rolfe’s accounts were “untrue”, “wrong”, and “a pure fabrication”.

Ms Campagnaro said she and her police partner had interviewed Mr Ryder after the incident. “Malcolm, he just kept saying … ‘The police officer just had the devil in his eyes’, ‘I was punched in the head’, and ‘I have not done anything wrong’.”

In one of her statements, Ms Campagnaro said: “Zak (sic) has told me, ‘Thank god my body worn wasn’t on because everyone would have seen I was punching Ryder on the floor’.”

Another of her statements suggests Alice Springs watch commanders regularly covered up Constable Rolfe’s use of force.

“I remember him saying words to the effect of ‘The Watchies constantly fix up my jobs’. I’m not sure of the process of how it works but when someone reports you, as in Zak (sic), they would constantly get rid of it for him, being the unjustified use of force reports. I’m not sure how they would do this for him.”

Ms Armitage said Ms Campagnaro’s evidence might also suggest Constable Rolfe had an over-preparedness to draw or use a firearm. In one of her statements, Ms Campagnaro said: “Zak (sic) has told me ‘I always get my gun out first’. I don’t remember when he told me this but I just remember him telling me when we were out at (place). He just thought it was funny in the context he was saying it, that he is ­always first to get his gun out.

“We would just be talking about going on a holiday and he would just off the cuff say words to the effect of ‘If I shot someone, I could go on a six-month holiday’.”

She also said Constable Rolfe had wanted to join the SAS. “Zak (sic) had previously spoken about getting into the SAS and said to me ‘I like being a soldier, it was good money and they could go out and kill people’.

“He said this to me a few times because when we first got together, he was trying to get into the SAS. I don’t know what I thought at the beginning, it should have been a red flag.”

Constable Rolfe and Ms Campagnaro were engaged in March 2018, a month after they began a relationship, but they had separated by the time of Walker’s death.

Good luck recruiting for Northern Territory Police after this little exercise!

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 13, 2022 9:16 pm

Using the implicit deflator between 1993 to the present the inflation rate has been 2.68% compounded.

you know they cook the books right? my 3 congruent real world examples show you how much.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 9:17 pm

I was just back from dinner and skimmed your comment. Why does it matter?

Gee, I dunno, do you?

It differs because Lizzie has never been confused with a troll whereas Monty has.

That’s just bullshit, because if you really believed Fatboy is a troll you would have banned him as per your “theoretical” policy about trolls.
You don’t believe Fatboy is a troll. He disagrees with people and actually is relatively nice in terms of what he gets. He’s no troll. You know it and we all do.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 13, 2022 9:18 pm

It differs because Lizzie has never been confused with a troll whereas Monty has.

You don’t think trying to regain the upper hand in a losing argument by citing “top table higher-ups” at [insert name of institution here] isn’t a form of trolling, or disingenuous debate?
And where does St Ruth sit on your troll spectrum?
By his own admission he engages in hyper-bowl to get a reaction.
That is, trolls.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 9:19 pm

Fatboy

Let’s be clear. I’m not defending you in the least because you’re a fat idiot. However, principal is principal and unfortunately that also applies to a fat abalone like you.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You should apply your rules fairly and not make it up as you go along.

Govern me harder, daddy.

cohenite
September 13, 2022 9:23 pm

Oh, you mean Monty getting some stick for picking a fight with cohenite? I don’t class that a pile-on.

You think I was talking about Teslas? What else did you think I was talking about by asking?

WTF is wrong with you head prefect; dickless insulted the hour of librarians everywhere; and by librarians I don’t mean the commies who have infested that glorious, selfless profession; fat-arsed lessos and soyboys who abuse the wonderful heritage of Melville. I’m beginning to think you have an overdue library book.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 13, 2022 9:23 pm

If you people don’t stop squabbling, I will turn this car around and there won’t be pile-ons for anyone.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Correct. Any insult to a librarian is an insult to all of us librarians.

cohenite
September 13, 2022 9:24 pm

JC, don’t get wishy-washy on me. I can handle the librarian and his nerd posse.

The only thing you could handle is your dick; if you had one.

JC
JC
September 13, 2022 9:25 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
September 13, 2022 at 9:21 pm

You should apply your rules fairly and not make it up as you go along.

Govern me harder, daddy.

Is that what the boss says to you at the motel, you complete fraud?

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