Open Thread – Weekend 24 Sept 2022


Misty morning in Italy, Ivan Aivazovsky, 1864

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OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 25, 2022 10:36 am

Choose obesity to promote equity

Yes, there is a pro-obesity crowd out there, and as an obese person this makes me very disturbed.

Obesity is unhealthy. It makes you ache. It makes basic life tasks more difficult. It reduces your options to do things. It is, let’s admit, very unattractive in the same way that anything that is unhealthy is unattractive. It’s not like anybody is excited to be around somebody who has the flu, even if we couldn’t catch it ourselves. Disease is unattractive for basic evolutionary reasons. There is not one good thing about being obese. Take it from an obese person.

Yet there is a movement to promote obesity, not mere acceptance that bodies come in all shapes and sizes. Apparently the desire to be fit and healthy is a direct consequence of White Supremacy™ and as we all know, anything that appeals to Wypepo must be destroyed.

It’s not a fringe phenomenon. At all. For instance the LA County School District is actually producing videos encouraging students to eat whatever they want because there is no such thing as unhealthy food if it is edible at all. You do you and all that.

Go eat some donuts to fight the patriarchy. This is what they are actually teaching children in school.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2022 10:38 am

Groogs, you’re trying too hard.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 10:40 am

Tennant Creek has almost 3000 people in it. It has a Centrelink, but no bakery.

Aboriginal Australians are sensitive/allergic to Grain, so anything containing Wheat, from baby food to low alcohol beer, is going to damage their health.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 25, 2022 10:41 am

Garry Kasparov @Kasparov63 · Sep 23

Don’t send this or that essential weapon to Ukraine or Putin will escalate. Don’t create a no -fly zone or Putin will escalate. Don’t clear the Black Sea or Putin will escalate. You chose dishonor and you have escalation anyway. Every time.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 25, 2022 10:41 am

The first Tory Budget in a generation seems to have flown over the heads of a lot of people.

The economic significance of the budget will still be invisible to many. For generations they have been told that bigger government spending creates prosperity, and for this generation been told that cheap reliable power will reduce the earth to a glowing cinder and only turbines will save them.

Once they see it works against expectations support will go up.

Sadly I am not sure such policies would be embraced by even 68% of Australian voters. And we know Australians have an ingrained aversion to ‘trusting their lying eyes’.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 10:42 am

Still wearing nappies, Groogs?

P
P
September 25, 2022 10:43 am

Something appears to be changing

Hope so Makka. Iv been told my estranged lefty brother in the UK is not happy.

Look like Truss knows which side of her bread is buttered on.

cohenite
September 25, 2022 10:44 am

I’m not sure the estimate for France is that accurate. France nuke stock is considered quite old and consequently the cost estimate isn’t accurate. It could be , but not sure because if that.

Here’s the point: Nuclear works, renewables don’t. The cost comparison is irrelevant. Turtle bowen is the most dangerous pollie in Australia right now.

As to cost Peter Lang wrote an interesting paper some time ago where because of green opposition to nuclear the technological cost benefits and economies of scale which would have occurred if nuclear had not been banned did not occur with the result nuclear is now more expensive than it should be:

https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/10/12/2169/htm

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2022 10:44 am

Dickless

Aboriginal Australians are sensitive/allergic to Grain, so anything containing Wheat, from baby food to low alcohol beer, is going to damage their health.

Can’t be so. Bruce Pascoe has assured us that the aboriginals had regular grain harvests.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2022 10:49 am

cohenite

Here’s the point: Nuclear works, renewables don’t. The cost comparison is irrelevant. Turtle bowen is the most dangerous pollie in Australia right now.

The most expensive electricity is that which is not available when it is needed.

cohenite
September 25, 2022 10:53 am

In addition a recent poll shows a majority of Australians support nuclear power:

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 25, 2022 10:54 am

Bruce Pascoe has assured us that the aboriginals had regular grain harvests.

Yeah, they did. They just couldn’t eat it.

But all the expenditure on farming, transporting the grain, building and maintaining grain silos, destroying the grain, and operating a bureaucracy to oversee it all, was a great Keynesian stimulus – something else Pascoe’s Aborigines did before Europe.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 10:55 am

Nuclear Power isn’t any cheaper than Coal, Gas or Hydro, but they take 20n years tom build, only last 40 years, and the Decommissioning/clean up costs go on forever.
Then there’s the Fuel Rod processing, which happens in Kazakhstan for a reason:
The Dictators there don’t give a fuck about Heavy Metal pollution and Air/Water quality.
Wanna be like Kazakhstan?
Import the Nuclear Fuel Cycle to Australia and become Kazakhstan.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 25, 2022 10:57 am

Go eat some donuts. Munty is way ahead of the curve.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 10:59 am

Can’t be so. Bruce Pascoe has assured us that the aboriginals had regular grain harvests.

Perhaps, but not Wheat, which has been hybridised so much that it has no resemblance to the Wheat of the Bible.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
September 25, 2022 11:02 am

.17HMR cases are prone to separation in the chamber.

Very annoying.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
September 25, 2022 11:03 am

Secret men’s business.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2022 11:04 am

Aboriginal Australians are sensitive/allergic to Grain, so anything containing Wheat, from baby food to low alcohol beer, is going to damage their health.

And here was me thinkin’ they were sensitive/allergic to anything that didn’t involve free money .. LOL!

MatrixTransform
September 25, 2022 11:04 am

Wanna be like Kazakhstan?

ease up on the logical fallacies Ed
keep them down to one per paragraph

does Kazakhstan have a reliable power supply?

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2022 11:05 am

The most horrific case yet might be the story of a Catholic activist from my hometown who had 30 FBI agents sent to his house yesterday to arrest him in front of his wife and seven children.

Which is why a majority of Americans fear the radical Dem Left more than they do the MAGA right.

(Recent Harvard Uni poll.)

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2022 11:12 am

Got to get up pretty early to slip anything past Gluten Groogs aka Ol’ Mutton Boy.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 25, 2022 11:14 am

The Dictators there don’t give a fuck about Heavy Metal pollution and Air/Water quality.

Import the Nuclear Fuel Cycle to Australia and become Kazakhstan.

In virtually adjacent sentences Ed switched from blaming the pollution on regime priorities to blaming the uranium technology itself.
Ed doesn’t even believe what Ed says.

duncanm
duncanm
September 25, 2022 11:16 am

The parliament shall, subject to this constitution, have power to make laws with respect to the composition, functions, powers and procedures of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

presumably Section 51(xxvi) will need to be modified for any proposals from the Aboriginal Voice to be implemented in law?

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2022 11:18 am

Here comes the softening up, courtesy of TheirABC:

Consumers across Australia can expect hikes worth billions in the costs of transporting power after a watchdog said there needed to be a “quantum leap” in spending on poles and wires to deal with the switch to renewable energy.

In a decision heralded as a landmark, Western Australia’s economic regulator this month said the state’s major electricity network provider should be allowed to spend $9 billion over the next five years – $1 billion more than it requested.

Economic Regulation Authority chairman Steve Edwell said the draft decision reflected the urgent need for upgrades to Western Power’s network to ensure it could handle the surge of renewable energy flooding onto the system.

But Mr Edwell, who was also the inaugural chairman of the Australian Energy Regulator, said it was also a sign of what was to come around the country, where poles-and-wires companies face a race against time and a huge increase in costs to make sure they can keep up with the energy transition.

Note how there is never any question about costs and benefits, or whether it is needed at all.

And, “heralded as landmark” (by whom – they don’t say) is just stroking the ego of someone who has made the right noises.

Ugh.

mem
mem
September 25, 2022 11:20 am

Cohenite
The most expensive electricity is that which is not available when it is needed.

In my humble view this is statement is worthy to be raised to the level of Liberty Quote?

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2022 11:22 am

shatterzz – is there anything that isn’t lol for you?

Would a death in the family do it?

lol

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2022 11:25 am

It reminds me of someone at Judith Curry’s who used to end every comment with ‘Namaste.’

When I asked him why, he said that if I didn’t understand it, he couldn’t explain it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 11:25 am

And here was me thinkin’ they were sensitive/allergic to anything that didn’t involve free money .. LOL!

This is from a Ten Pound Whingeing Pom who has spent the past 50 years living in Public Housing [in Sydney].

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 25, 2022 11:27 am

I see Ryan James Girdusky in a tweet below has a very different take on Truss’ government’s policies, characterising the tax cuts as being targeted to the rich and riled that skilled migration will be made easier.

I hope it is not the reflex response to the fact that people who pay most in tax also benefitting most from tax cuts. There is a demographic sump that already pays no tax but is gifted all manner of payments from government coffers. If he thinks that this ‘wretched underclass’ deserves more then – well that would simply be exacerbating the problem rather than solving it.

As for skilled migration – well if there is a market for skills not being met then probably a good thing. I doubt many of the problem migrants the UK has struggled with were skilled – just country shoppers whose very first act just entering Britain is to break its laws.

Mind you, the kids of successful skilled migrants have been problems (Pox be upon him) but that is a different matter which will need it’s own attention.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2022 11:31 am

Black fellas allergic to grain? Care to provide evidence?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2022 11:32 am

This is from a Ten Pound Whingeing Pom who has spent the past 50 years living in Public Housing [in Sydney]

Apparently.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2022 11:33 am

Daily Mail.

Putin’s Army in shambles: Bungling officials try to recruit the DEAD to fight in Ukraine war – as Russians who have been forced into conscription drink themselves senseless

Russian conscripts have been getting hammered on their way to training
Thousands of reluctant Russian men have been served their call up papers
Videos show new recruits brawling, passed out and stumbling around
Insubordination is also rife as recruitment officers struggle to control their men
Incidents of recruitment officers turning up at the homes of dead men
Others have been using scooters to beat border queues and get out of Russia
The partial mobilisation is supposed to raise 300,000 troops, but there are suspicions that the true number the Kremlin aims for might be much higher

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 11:34 am

Mind you, the kids of successful skilled migrants have been problems (Pox be upon him) but that is a different matter which will need it’s own attention.

In other words, importing a Bus Driver/Factory Hand from Jamaica or the Punjab is economically a net minus 30 years later, whether or not it ever stacked up in the first place.
And Truss is going to double down on stupid?

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2022 11:36 am

shatterzzz positive outlook to life is refreshing compared to endless hyperventilating melancholy that gets repeated everyday.

Time for some lame dad jokes lol!

mem
mem
September 25, 2022 11:36 am

The most expensive electricity is that which is not available when it is needed.

Whoops. Should read. In my humble view this statement is worthy of being raised to the level of a Liberty Quote? I’m currently operating on 25% eyesight and reviewing work and typing is proving difficult. But not an adequate excuse for sloppiness.

P
P
September 25, 2022 11:37 am

Right-wing alliance seen as likely winner as Italians vote

Voting runs on Sunday from 7.00 a.m. to 11.00 p.m. (0500-2100 GMT), with exit polls released when balloting ends.

However, the complex calculations required by a hybrid proportional/first-past-the-post electoral law mean it may be many hours before a precise seat count is available.

With a polls blackout in force in the two weeks before the election, there is still scope for a surprise.

There has been speculation that support for the left-leaning 5-Star Movement, the biggest party in 2018, has picked up in recent days.

A late surge by 5-Star could jeopardise the rightist alliance’s chances of winning a majority in the Senate or upper house, complicating the process of forming a government.

Even if there is a clear cut result, the next government is unlikely to take office before late October, with the new parliament not meeting until Oct. 13.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 11:39 am

Black fellas allergic to grain? Care to provide evidence?

Aboriginal Australians are Sensitive /Allergic to Wheat.
Lactose also.
These aren’t controversial statements, so if it’s news to you, perhaps do some basic research or open your eyes.
Cheerio.

Jorge
Jorge
September 25, 2022 11:41 am

Slashing taxes in the UK – OK.

Taking on vast new debt, not slashing outgoings – not OK.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 25, 2022 11:42 am

any proposals from the Aboriginal Voice to be implemented in law?

Whenever the topic of the AVtP arises, we must immediately declare that legislation should not be racist and the AVtP is to be rejected on that basis. It would grant special influence over legislation to one genetically-defined ethnogroup, aka “race”. There is nothing more we need to know about the proposal.

Aborigines should have, and do have, a voice to parliament in the same way that Australian citizens who are from British islander, Chinese, Japanese, Greek, Indian, Pacific islander, Ethiopian, Nigerian, and Slavic descent people also have, which is their elected Member of Parliament.

If there is any problem with the results of this representation, fix the current system, don’t create a racist parallel system.

MatrixTransform
September 25, 2022 11:43 am

perhaps do some basic research or open your eyes.

what’s for lunch BB?

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2022 11:44 am

Why did the blonde get so excited about finishing a jigsaw puzzle in seven months?
Because the box said it was for “2 to 4 years.”

JC
JC
September 25, 2022 11:45 am

As to cost Peter Lang wrote an interesting paper some time ago where because of green opposition to nuclear the technological cost benefits and economies of scale which would have occurred if nuclear had not been banned did not occur with the result nuclear is now more expensive than it should be:

Yes, we about Peter as he also used to visit the old blog. I’ve always tried to read his stuff. He’s the best.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 11:48 am

… does Kazakhstan have a reliable power supply?

If you’re living in one of El Presidente of Kazakhstan’s Palaces, hell yeah!

If you were a fisherman on the Aral Sea where the shoreline has shrunk 30 miles due to Cotton Growing and the fish are dead due to chemical runoff, electricity is the least of your worries.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2022 11:50 am

Earth shattering kaboom news.

Taupo Volcano: Volcanic Alert Level raised to Level 1. Ongoing earthquakes and deformation indicating minor volcanic unrest (20 Sep)

GNS Science, through the GeoNet programme, continually monitors Taup? volcano and our other active volcanoes for signs of activity. There has been an increase in earthquakes and deformation (ground movement) at Taup? since May 2022 indicating volcanic unrest is occurring. The Volcanic Alert Level (VAL) change this week has been informed by our ongoing analysis of monitoring data, increased knowledge of Taup? Volcano from research programmes and new knowledge of causes of past unrest at Taup? Volcano.

Although this is the first time we have raised the VAL to 1, this is not the first volcanic unrest at Taup?. There have been 17 previous episodes of unrest over the past 150 years.

Okaaay, this is the first time ever that they’ve upped their warning level. That’s so comforting.

Why isn’t it comforting you might ask? Well the last eruption of the Taupo volcano was roughly the largest on Earth in the last ten thousand years. And that volcano seems to go kaboom every 1600 years or so. That last big eruption was about 1800 years ago (~233 AD) and there’ve been absolutely no eruptions at all since then. So she’s been saving up to go full-Karen.

If Taupo gets really excitable it will ruin our whole day.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2022 11:52 am

If Taupo gets really excitable it will ruin our whole day.

Kiwis. Every goddamn time.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 25, 2022 11:55 am

If Taupo gets really excitable it will ruin our whole day.

Gaia don’t give a fuck about Heavy Metal pollution and Air/Water quality.

JC
JC
September 25, 2022 11:59 am

What a relief. No stupid & annoying Rotten joke stories so far. Fingers crossed.

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2022 12:02 pm

An Australian ventriloquist goes on holiday to New Zealand.
He’s got a mate who has a property there, and he asks innocently, ‘G’day mate, can I talk to your horse?’ The Kiwi splits his sides. ‘Horses don’t talk you stupid Aussie!’ Still the Aussie says, ‘Hey horse, is this Kiwi your owner?’ The horse nods, to the Kiwi’s surprise. ‘How does he treat you?’ asks the Aussie. ‘He treats me well. Feeds me the best hay and rides me twice a day.’ The Aussie asks, ‘Mate, would I be able to talk with your dog?’ The Kiwi stares nervously and says, ‘I’m pretty sure dogs can’t speak either.’ But the Aussie doesn’t listen and says, ‘Dog, is this Kiwi your owner?’ The dog smiles. ‘Does he treat you well?’ asks the Aussie. The dog says, ‘He feeds me twice a day and throws the ball to me, so I’ve got that going for me.’ To the Kiwi’s chagrin the Aussie asks, ‘Can I talk to your sheep?’ But nevertheless the Kiwi yells, ‘Don’t trust that sheep, he’s a bloody liar!’

JC
JC
September 25, 2022 12:02 pm

Cronkite

I’d regard Peter Lang as the best science writer the Cat had as a commenter and I think poster. He was excellent. He was also ahead of his time in terms of advocating nuke.

cohenite
September 25, 2022 12:02 pm

Nuclear Power isn’t any cheaper than Coal, Gas or Hydro, but they take 20n years tom build, only last 40 years, and the Decommissioning/clean up costs go on forever.
Then there’s the Fuel Rod processing, which happens in Kazakhstan for a reason:
The Dictators there don’t give a fuck about Heavy Metal pollution and Air/Water quality.
Wanna be like Kazakhstan?
Import the Nuclear Fuel Cycle to Australia and become Kazakhstan.

None of that is true for new gen nuke; the IFRs have solved all those issues. In addition SMRs can be built for small or large markets. So STFU ed.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 25, 2022 12:04 pm

JC, less stoushogenicity, please.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2022 12:06 pm

Ed can’t provide any. Cheerio indeed. My father, grandfather etc had no problem whatsoever with grain consumption, nor my extended family, nor any of my children. Methinks you are a bit of a cockhead.
MatrixTransform I am enjoying a beverage right now, wholegrain sandwich from the bakery in an hour.

cohenite
September 25, 2022 12:07 pm

That stiff arm in the Penrith Souths match was a beauty, but look at the dog act by Latrell afterwards:

https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/03/13/judiciary-report-all-the-latest-charges/

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2022 12:07 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:

September 25, 2022 at 11:50 am

Earth shattering kaboom news.

Taupo Volcano: Volcanic Alert Level raised to Level 1. Ongoing earthquakes and deformation indicating minor volcanic unrest (20 Sep)

It’s happening!!!

shatterzzz
September 25, 2022 12:09 pm

shatterzz – is there anything that isn’t lol for you?

It takes the “bite” out of a lot of the stuff! .. reality tends to upset some folks!

JC
JC
September 25, 2022 12:10 pm

Berka

Don’t tell me. Tell those that try to start these stroushes like The Driller, The Turtlehead, Matrix in the evening when he’s fully tanked and the poor man’s Rodney Dangerfield . Seriously, go take a look as all I do is reply.

The blog owner has asked me report them anyway so he gets an idea of who is trying to start them.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2022 12:11 pm

If Taupo gets really excitable it will ruin our whole day.

On the upside nobody will be concerned about global warming anymore.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 25, 2022 12:13 pm

Black Ball says: September 25, 2022 at 12:06 pm

wholegrain sandwich from the bakery in an hour.

This cannot stand. Our infallible lord and saviour Ed hath spoken. But the good news is that you can be saved, Black Ball.
You just have to pray the grain away.

JC
JC
September 25, 2022 12:14 pm

Jeez

@The_Real_Fly
PETA calls for women to go on sex strike against men who eat meat ***

I don’t blame them. Monkeypox is the real thing.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2022 12:17 pm

This is from a Ten Pound Whingeing Pom who has spent the past 50 years living in Public Housing [in Sydney]

If being a “houso” is good enuf fer the PM it’s good enuf fer moi! .. bit o’ French thrown in for the uneducated .. finishes wiv an LOL! .. cos I can!

JC
JC
September 25, 2022 12:18 pm

He’s so good.

Michael Shellenberger
@ShellenbergerMD
·
2h
Biden, the Democrats, and their witnesses are effectively demanding that the US become as dependent on China as Europe became on Russia for energy. What’s driving them is an anti-civilization religion. Playtime is over. Their pro-scarcity policies threaten our national security.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2022 12:18 pm

The blog owner has asked me report them anyway so he gets an idea of who is trying to start them.

#me too.
I am the honorary* Stoush and Standards Monitor.
And uptick reporter.
….
* It wouldn’t be right to take money, seeing as how Klaus and George pay me to be here anyway.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2022 12:18 pm

Barley used in beer fermentation yeah? Another vice according to Ed

rickw
rickw
September 25, 2022 12:20 pm

Say you live in Victoria, and you want to chance buying a statutory write off to replace the engine in your car. You need an EPA permit and license.

The shitness of Victoria is endless.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2022 12:20 pm

PETA calls for women to go on sex strike against men who eat meat

This is soooo obvious.

It’s a reverse psy-op designed to make blokes want hideous, hail-damaged behemoths with blue hair and odd socks.

Dragnet
Dragnet
September 25, 2022 12:20 pm

I like Shatterz and his wry cock-eyed but ultimately positive take on events. And as far as I am aware he went through a dark period in his life which saw him end up in public housing, but prior to which he was productively employed.
Walk a mile in others shoes ….

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2022 12:23 pm

Walk a mile in others shoes ….
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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2022 12:24 pm

It’s happening!!!

Yes! We have a new island, and the Chinese haven’t even claimed it yet. Ok, it’s in Tongan territory but such irritations don’t usually stop them.

A tiny island in the Pacific is born … but it probably won’t be around for long (24 Sep)

Happy birthday, island.

Jorge
Jorge
September 25, 2022 12:24 pm

Carolyn Wilson on ABC this morning with someone called Charles, probably ex player, saying to “solve the problem” every AFL club will need to appoint an indigenous adviser.

She also mentioned racist crowd abuse of Goodes, Eddie Betts, Fremantle players abused back in the seventies, Nicky Winmar.

It won’t work, Caro. The crowd won’t be told. They’re just so deplorable.
Let’s cancel the competition or only play in front of deaf mutes.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 12:25 pm

I take it that Chinese military coup rumour turned out to be false?

rickw
rickw
September 25, 2022 12:25 pm

Black fellas allergic to grain? Care to provide evidence?

If you got run over by a grain truck you would probably die? 🙂

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 12:26 pm

Barley used in beer fermentation yeah? Another vice according to Ed

Playing clown to the peanut gallery now?
That’s certain to get you a lotta respec’.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 12:27 pm

A tiny island in the Pacific is born … but it probably won’t be around for long

I’m pleasantly surprised – was expecting a global warming screed. It will soon be submerged by the 100m rises in sea levels!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2022 12:29 pm

Black fellas allergic to grain? Care to provide evidence?

It’s probably hard to tell, given the life expectancy of 27 not all that long ago.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2022 12:29 pm

She also mentioned racist crowd abuse of Goodes, Eddie Betts, Fremantle players abused back in the seventies, Nicky Winmar.

And Buddy.
Don’t forget Buddy yesterday.
Copped a yuuuuge razzing when he got his 3rd and 4th kicks … 30 minutes into the last quarter.

JC
JC
September 25, 2022 12:31 pm

Oh come on says:
September 25, 2022 at 12:25 pm

I take it that Chinese military coup rumour turned out to be false?

Likely, but not 100%. If the other shit was true about countless closed flights and terminated train schedules something may have occurred. It may also have been beaten back. We need to wait a few days to figure it out.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2022 12:32 pm

On my living in “houso” .. if someone/anyone can suggest/offer me rental for a free standing home, next door to a shopping centre & walking distance to a swimming pool and, God forbid, if I need it the regional hospital at the top of the street within $10 a week, either way of what I’m paying now .. $126.60 .. I’ll consider it .. serious stuff soooo no LOL! ..

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 12:32 pm

I like Shatterz and his wry cock-eyed but ultimately positive take on events.

Positive takes like this, right?

And here was me thinkin’ they were sensitive/allergic to anything that didn’t involve free money .. LOL!

Taking a free kick at Aborigines despite being a Ten Pound Pom who’s lived in Public Housing [in Sydney] for the last 50 years.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2022 12:33 pm

Never advertise coup in Age classifieds.

– Herald Sun Tzu.

Razey
Razey
September 25, 2022 12:34 pm

rickwsays:
The shitness of Victoria is endless.

Once the Sheep(TM) vote the Hunchback in a landslide, it’s gonna get a lot worse.

Gabor
Gabor
September 25, 2022 12:35 pm

Ed Case says:
September 25, 2022 at 12:26 pm

I don’t understand why you comment on things you have no idea about.
Your general knowledge is so little that it isn’t even dangerous.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 12:35 pm

Paying $126.60/ fortnite to live in Sydney and whingeing like buggery about Australia.
Yeah, it’s a Ten Pound Pom.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 12:35 pm

Perhaps there was some kind of internal power struggle – it’s being reported today that the Chinese premier is ‘retiring’.

Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2022 12:36 pm
shatterzzz
September 25, 2022 12:36 pm

I’m pleasantly surprised – was expecting a global warming screed. It will soon be submerged by the 100m rises in sea levels!

I’m sure we can spare $several hundred million relief before the inevitable tho .. LOL!

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 12:36 pm

And $121.00/ fortnite of that is Rent Assistance.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2022 12:37 pm

it’s being reported today that the Chinese premier is ‘retiring’.

Oh.

I thought he was an extrovert.

areff
areff
September 25, 2022 12:38 pm

What the heck is happening in China, if anything? twitter abuzz with coup rumours, and there’s this from Newsweek

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/li-qiaoming-general-at-center-of-china-coup-rumors-on-social-media/ar-AA12cBBd

Mind you, social media reporting no planes over Beijing. But check FlightRadar and there are oodles of them

shatterzzz
September 25, 2022 12:39 pm

Paying $126.60/ fortnite to live in Sydney and whingeing like buggery about Australia.
Yeah, it’s a Ten Pound Pom.

$126.60 .. A week, Ed, a week if your gonna whinge .. read the, bloody, thing properly .. sheeesh!
definitely NOT an LOL! ..

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2022 12:40 pm

A plant supplying 1/3 of the UK’s CO2 has paused production due to energy costs.

Brits may have to forego a fizzy lager for a flat real ale, among other more serious sacrifices.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2022 12:40 pm

Ed, you have proven yourself to be nothing more than hot air. No evidence to provide, then tries ad hominem.
As for respec’, master, I only provide commentary that others can enjoy or rebut. I only provide my opinion.
But you either prove that black fellas, which everyone here knows I am one, were allergic to grain and lactose and I will humbly kiss your arse. I posted earlier that none of my family, extended etc, experienced none.
Go!

Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2022 12:40 pm

Ed Casesays:
September 25, 2022 at 12:35 pm
Paying $126.60/ fortnite to live in Sydney and whingeing like buggery about Australia.
Yeah, it’s a Ten Pound Pom.

Probably a NSW Housing Commission shoe box/rabbit hutch with loads of drug addicts and jailbirds on parole as neighbours. Welfare does have it’s downside…………………….

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2022 12:42 pm

Re my comment about the Chinese, it wouldn’t be the first time a new island might cause a war.

Graham Island (wiki)

On 2 August 1831, Humphrey Fleming Senhouse, the captain of the first rate Royal Navy ship of the line HMS St Vincent claimed the Island for the British Crown and named it after Sir James Graham, the First Lord of the Admiralty. The eruptions of 1831 resulted in the island increasing in size to about four sq km

In the months ahead, Ferdinandea Island eventually became the subject of a four-way dispute over its sovereignty, the island had been claimed for the United Kingdom and given the name Graham Island. The King of the Two Sicilies, Ferdinand II, after whom Sicilians named the island Ferdinandea, also sent ships to the nascent island to claim it for the Bourbon crown. The French Navy made a landing, and called the island Julia. Spain also declared its territorial ambitions. Each wanted the island for its useful position in the Mediterranean trade route (to England and France) and its close position to Spain and Italy.

Julia Ferdinandea Graham was born in August 1831 and died December 1831. A short lifetime as a geopolitical toy. There’s a postscript:

Year 2000 Sicilian plaque with claim of Italian sovereignty

To forestall a renewal of the sovereignty disputes, Italian divers planted a flag on the top of the volcano in advance of its expected resurfacing. To bolster their case, Sicilians, who call it Ferdinandea, summoned the descendant of the Bourbon King of Naples. In a ceremony filmed by a flotilla of camera crews, Prince Carlo di Bourbon lowered a plaque into the waves and told cheering locals: “It will always be Sicilian.”

Italians are total romantics.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2022 12:43 pm

Shatterzzz.
I was going to stay out of this, but …
When you pay $126 p.w. to live alone in a four bedroom house in Siddy (which could accomodate a family) and which, by your own admission, is basically used to shit you don’t need, I don’t think you should ne throwing stones at waste of public resources on the less fortunate elsewhere.
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………………………. Lol!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 25, 2022 12:43 pm

Walk a mile in others shoes? Well I hardly ever wear shoes, brought some new ones end of winter to travel. On the plane for 3hrs, feet swelled up, carried the shoes round Spain. I doubt if I got a mile out of them. Maybe I should have worn someone else’s shoes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2022 12:44 pm

… to store shit you don’t need
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……………. Lol!

JC
JC
September 25, 2022 12:44 pm

It may have been a Xi directed purge of the liberals too. That’s also possible.

I’m sure there’s been lot’s of internal disquiet about the constant stream of lockdowns going on. Some people have suggested it reminds them of the Cultural Revolution.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 12:45 pm

$126.60 .. A week, Ed, a week if your gonna whinge .. read the, bloody, thing properly .. sheeesh!
definitely NOT an LOL! ..

It’s now whingeing about having to pay $126.60 a week rent to live in a stand alone house in Sydney.
And crying about Aborigines getting a few crumbs off the table.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2022 12:45 pm

But you either prove that black fellas, which everyone here knows I am one, were allergic to grain and lactose and I will humbly kiss your arse

Fifty bucks on BB! More popcorn, anyone?

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2022 12:46 pm

Carolyn Wilson on ABC this morning with someone called Charles, probably ex player, saying to “solve the problem” every AFL club will need to appoint an indigenous adviser.

How come AFL clubs didn’t need Greek or Italian or Croatian (apologies to those I’ve missed) well paid advisers to win premierships in the past? Was it because wascism?

Zipster
Zipster
September 25, 2022 12:46 pm

Mind you, social media reporting no planes over Beijing. But check FlightRadar and there are oodles of them

was quite different yesterday. seem well below normal volumes still.

the radio silence is the biggest clue that something is happening.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 25, 2022 12:48 pm

You’d be right JR. The druggies and jailbirds are pretty pissed about having ten pound poms as neighbours.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 25, 2022 12:48 pm

They breed ’em stupid in the NT:

If your neighbour has borrowed your phone charger and not returned it, don’t call triple-0.
Do not call to ask NT Police for lifts, for court dates, and especially don’t use the emergency line to ask if you are allowed to own a baby kangaroo.

One call from a woman outside a Katherine school tried to tell police it was an emergency her dogs were stuck inside a building.

In another call, a man phoned 000 asking about a power outage, inquiring when the lights would be back on.

Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2022 12:49 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
September 25, 2022 at 12:24 pm
It’s happening!!!

Yes! We have a new island, and the Chinese haven’t even claimed it yet. Ok, it’s in Tongan territory but such irritations don’t usually stop them.

A tiny island in the Pacific is born … but it probably won’t be around for long (24 Sep)

Happy birthday, island.

Looks like a nice place to film the next Series of ‘Love Island’ or any other of those ‘Unreality Shows’. Maybe ‘The Block’ as well………………………

Zipster
Zipster
September 25, 2022 12:51 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 12:53 pm

Ed, you have proven yourself to be nothing more than hot air. No evidence to provide, then tries ad hominem.

Sounds like you got a burr in your knickers, pard.

You wouldn’t be a beneficiary/factotum of the Aboriginal Industry, by any chance?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2022 12:54 pm

Many people here have predicted that the Xi regime is under bigger threat internally than from some external military threat.
That doesn’t mean, of course, that internal strife doesn’t spill over into a regional conflict, centred on Taiwan.

JC
JC
September 25, 2022 12:54 pm

Head, behave yourself and stop annoying some people.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2022 12:55 pm

They breed ’em stupid in the NT:

Cite you the outback community who had to be broken of the habit of using the Royal Flying Doctor Service as a taxi service……..

shatterzzz
September 25, 2022 12:55 pm

And $121.00/ fortnite of that is Rent Assistance.
I hate to do this but I will, if only to annoy, ED .. my rent is $126.60 .. the assessed rental is $465 a week so my “assistance” is $338.40 ..
I know this will come as a surprise to you but NSW HC has in excess of 245 000 properties .. 90% are on “assistance” of some level or another .. the amount of rent paid is based on total household income per week up to the assessed amount .. until my youngest daughter left home last year I had paid full market rent for over 20 years ..
I don’t do GUILT .. try harder ..!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2022 12:55 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:

September 25, 2022 at 12:45 pm

But you either prove that black fellas, which everyone here knows I am one, were allergic to grain and lactose and I will humbly kiss your arse

Fifty bucks on BB! More popcorn, anyone?

Don’t be throwing cash around like a drunken sailor.
It’s six months to the next BHP divvie.

Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2022 12:56 pm

GreyRangasays:
September 25, 2022 at 12:48 pm
You’d be right JR. The druggies and jailbirds are pretty pissed about having ten pound poms as neighbours.

LOL……………………….

Yes and I remember when I first arrived on these fair shores in March 1976. My one way ticket cost me well over 500 pounds Sterling.

When asked by some of the locals in Convict’s Paradise as to why I came here, I stated that “I was invited by the Australian Guv’ment to improve the local stock.” Whereupon I received some stunned looks. To which I then said, “Well, haven’t you seen the Sheep looking happier lately”…………….. Baaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2022 12:57 pm

The Chinese century is looking very iffy.

Still, they’ve managed to outlast the Thousand Year Reich, there is that.

Razey
Razey
September 25, 2022 12:57 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
September 25, 2022 at 12:54 pm
Many people here have predicted that the Xi regime is under bigger threat internally than from some external military threat.
That doesn’t mean, of course, that internal strife doesn’t spill over into a regional conflict, centred on Taiwan.

The Chinese military is extremely pissed at Xi’s loss of face when Pelosi visited Taiwan.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 25, 2022 12:57 pm

Bum rap?

An Australian man faces the death penalty after being arrested for trying to smuggle heroin in his anus into Bali.

Graham Huynh, who also goes by Jeff Welton, 52, was arrested at Bali’s international airport on September 6 after arriving on a flight from Vietnam.

He is accused of hiding 8.09g of heroin in his anus, which under Indonesia’s drug importation laws means he could face the death penalty.

Daily Mail

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2022 1:01 pm

He is accused of hiding 8.09g of heroin in his anus

Maybe he was afraid of catching monkeypox.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2022 1:01 pm

No, just work, enjoy my sport and kids success. Any other questions Ed?
Still yet to provide evidence for your assertion.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 25, 2022 1:02 pm

That’s possible too JC but liberalst tend to be sent to forgettery with no power on an individual basis. All it needs is several cadres have diminished wealth seeing angry supporters in the same situation, baying for blood, the man at the top has to go.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2022 1:02 pm

Shatterzzz.
I was going to stay out of this, but …
When you pay $126 p.w. to live alone in a four bedroom house in Siddy (which could accomodate a family) and which, by your own admission, is basically used to shit you don’t need, I don’t think you should ne throwing stones at waste of public resources on the less fortunate elsewhere.

And if you think my situation is unique you don’t spend much time around “houso” estates .. the only “unique” thing about me and “houso” is I use English as a 1st language .. I won’t mention 3 of my kids being millionaires in case it upsets anyone .. LOL!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2022 1:02 pm

It’s six months to the next BHP divvie.

Wesfarmers divvie in 11 days.

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2022 1:03 pm

Trying to be the chief inquisitor Sancho is starting where thin.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 1:05 pm

How come AFL clubs didn’t need Greek or Italian or Croatian (apologies to those I’ve missed) well paid advisers to win premierships in the past? Was it because wascism?

Aborigines are extremely r-directed, so if one of them has lived long enough to attract the attention of AFL Scouts, the more sensible clubs are prepared to spend more to keep them focused and happy.
Here’s Wiki [not a reliable source] on r/k selection.
Italians and moreso Greeks and Croats, tend to be k/selected.

Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2022 1:05 pm

At a dinner party, several of the guests were arguing whether men or women were more trustworthy. “No woman” said one man, scornfully “can keep a secret”. “I don’t know about that” answered a woman guest. “I have kept my age a secret since I was twenty-one”. “You’ll let it out someday” the man insisted. “I hardly think so!” responded the lady. “When a woman has kept a secret for twenty-seven years, she can keep it forever!”

shatterzzz
September 25, 2022 1:05 pm

Damn! ..all my ‘whinge-ing” and look what’s happened .. a “fitba” fanatic and I’ve missed the start of my afternoon “whinge” .. Socceroos v NZ 1.00pm .. sooo must aware and “torture” myself .. LOL!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2022 1:06 pm

It may have been a Xi directed purge of the liberals too. That’s also possible.

In 97.3% unsupported speculation mode, this might well be a spot of housekeeping prior to Xi’s elevation to President For Life at the forthcoming CCP General Assembly.

Putting a glass over the unreliable while sorting the public details was Xi’s playbook in the early years of his reign.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 1:09 pm

Any other questions Ed?
Still yet to provide evidence for your assertion.

You’ve made a few assertions about your identity earlier on, care to provide any evidence?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 25, 2022 1:10 pm

Paah, I’d be asking for my £500 back. You were taken. I lived next door to a pom. Whinged all the time. Sold up, went back, lasted 3 months and came back. Nostalgia is great until reality kicks in.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 25, 2022 1:15 pm

Nut Case wants to see BlackBalls! I’d like to see NC’s proof off intelligence.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 1:17 pm

An elderly relative lives in a WA public housing unit. It’s pretty decent – building’s about 30 years old but was renovated a decade or so ago. It’s a small complex, quiet neighbours (all oldies), above average suburb. The rent’s 25% of income so it really only makes economic sense for pensioners to live there, although rates could be different for couples or families.

One kinda based thing I heard – when the housing department sends you a statement of your rent payments, it shows the rent you pay and the market rent of the property. Obviously there’s a big gap between the two numbers – my relative pays a bit over half the market rate (which sounded like a fair calculation to me). Anyway, it’s just a small thing, but I think it’s worth highlighting.

Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2022 1:19 pm

GreyRangasays:
September 25, 2022 at 1:10 pm
Paah, I’d be asking for my £500 back. You were taken. I lived next door to a pom. Whinged all the time. Sold up, went back, lasted 3 months and came back. Nostalgia is great until reality kicks in.

The best over 500 pounds I ever spent. Love the place. Came all this way to marry a Scots Woman……….lol

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2022 1:20 pm

My goodness gracious. Ed is flailing like Sam Reid yesterday.
I’ve provided my work, you have done none. Won’t continue with this.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Zulu schools Sancho on a thing known as “spreading your portfolio”

It’s six months to the next BHP divvie.

Wesfarmers divvie in 11 days.

Well done that investor.
That was a free one. Any further investment/financial advice & Zulu may well invoice Sancho.

JC
JC
September 25, 2022 1:25 pm

Not a 10er, but Okay for a older scrubber in the pic.

There’s not much they can do without their own currency. They can perform an internal devaluation by massive economic deregulation and material cuts in spending. But they won’t as it would be next to impossible. So life just goes on.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2022 1:31 pm

Roger

Which is why a majority of Americans fear the radical Dem Left more than they do the MAGA right.

(Recent Harvard Uni poll.)

The radical DemonRat left, bringing fascism to America since January 2009.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 25, 2022 1:31 pm

We’ve had BB here, and on dead Catallaxy, for years, and this is the first time the fact that he’s a blackfella has been at all relevant to any discussion. How could anyone tell? But he’s told us he is, and I don’t have any reason to doubt he’s telling the truth. And on this subject, he’s qualified to give an informed opinion, so I’m obliged to him.

Ed Case, by contrast, is an opiniated obvious fathead .

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2022 1:34 pm

opinionated

DrBG

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2022 1:35 pm

Well done that investor.

Bit worried about Wesfarmers ever since the CEO’s daughter ran for Parliament as one of the Teals…

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 1:36 pm

And on this subject, he’s qualified to give an informed opinion, so I’m obliged to him.

He’s given an anecdote based on his family.
That doesn’t qualify as Informed Opinion, dumbo.

On the issue:
Are you seriously saying that Australian Aborigines aren’t Intolerant to Wheat, a food they were never exposed to in thousands of years on this continent?

Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2022 1:38 pm

A Jewish punter was at the races playing the ponies and losing his shirt.

He noticed a Priest step out onto the track and blessed the forehead of one of the horses lining up for the 4th race.

Lo and behold, that horse -a long shot- won the race.

Next race, as the horses lined up, the Priest stepped onto the track. Sure enough, he blessed one of the horses.

The punter made a beeline for a betting window and placed a small bet on the horse. Again, even though it was another long shot, the horse won the race. He collected his winnings, and anxiously waited to see which horse the Priest would bless next.

He bet big on it, and it won.

As the races continued the Priest kept blessing horses, and each one ended up winning.

The punter was elated. He made a quick dash to the ATM, withdrew all his savings, and waited for the Priest’s blessing that would tell him which horse to bet on.

True to his pattern, the Priest stepped onto the track for the last race and blessed the forehead of an old nag that was 100/1. This time the priest blessed the eyes, ears, and hooves of the old nag. The punter knew he had a winner and bet every cent he owned on the old nag.

He watched dumbfounded as the old nag pulled up and couldn’t even finish the race.

In a state of shock, he went to the track area where the Priest was.

Confronting him, he demanded “Father! What happened? All day long you blessed horses and they all won. Then in the last race, the horse you blessed never even had a chance. Now, thanks to you I’ve lost every cent of my savings!”

The Priest nodded wisely and with sympathy. “You are not Catholic are you, my son?”

“No, I’m Jewish”

“That’s the problem” said the Priest “you couldn’t tell the difference between a blessing and last rites”.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 1:39 pm

WA housing is very much a mixed bag. There are some total shitholes that you absolutely wouldn’t want to live in, lots of stuff in the middle and some surprisingly decent places acquired through good fortune or developed as some social engineering project. When the fashionable Subi Centro precinct was developed in the early 2000s, part of the deal was the developer had to agree to construct a small proportion of the properties for public housing. Around that same time, the old West Australian newspaper building on Canning Highway was being converted into high end loft-style apartments – you know the type, lots of exposed brick, polished concrete and glass, stainless steel everything, high ceilings etc. The owner or developer went bust after they’d been completed and the housing department grabbed the entire complex. Now it’s all state housing. Pretty damn nice flat if you’re living on the dole.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2022 1:39 pm

None of that is true for new gen nuke; the IFRs have solved all those issues. In addition SMRs can be built for small or large markets. So STFU ed.

Dickless tries to imply that he is some kind of Lieboral activist, but his solutions usually seem to involve policies with which the Lairs or Slime might be comfortable.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 1:40 pm

Here’s a few things that only an opinionated Fathead could be bothered to dispute:
The sky is blue
Water is wet
Aborigines are Wheat and Lactose Intolerant, and are extremely r/selected.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 25, 2022 1:42 pm

Thank you, bespoke. Opinionated it should have been.

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2022 1:43 pm

Stay clear of clear circular trolling.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 1:44 pm

In Freo, there are a couple of nice looking, modern public housing complexes next to or nearby the Wool Shed building (I think). There are also several 70s-era medium-rise blocks of flats that look like absolute hellholes and are no doubt where many of Freo’s colourful mentally ill residents live.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Are you seriously saying that Australian Aborigines aren’t Intolerant to Wheat, a food they were never exposed to in thousands of years on this continent?

No.
You seriously stated that Australian Aborigines are intolerant of wheat.
You’ve been asked how you know this?

Your response:
Prove you’re a blackfella
This is not a phrase that will convince anybody that Aborigines are wheat intolerant.

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2022 1:45 pm

….of circular trolling.

LOL!

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2022 1:48 pm

Dickless

It’s now whingeing about having to pay $126.60 a week rent to live in a stand alone house in Sydney.
And crying about Aborigines getting a few crumbs off the table.

$33 billion a year in special programs, plus access to the normal programs, is a lot of “crumbs”. You must have a verrry big table at your place.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2022 1:49 pm

Well done that investor.
That was a free one. Any further investment/financial advice & Zulu may well invoice Sancho.

Sure, sure.
BHP, Wesfarmers, Telstra, CBA.
Highly sophisticated portfolio.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 1:50 pm

Freo is full of nuts. And not just green nuts and smelly hippies – I’m talking fully crazy, real deal hardcore crazy people that have lived there forever. It’s a magnet for nutters. Maybe when Graylands closed most of its inpatient facilities in the 1980s, its residents were dumped in Freo or something and they’ve never left.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2022 1:50 pm

Ed Casesays:
September 25, 2022 at 12:53 pm
Ed, you have proven yourself to be nothing more than hot air. No evidence to provide, then tries ad hominem.

Sounds like you got a burr in your knickers, pard.

You wouldn’t be a beneficiary/factotum of the Aboriginal Industry, by any chance?

Dickless doubles down.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

BHP, Wesfarmers, Telstra, CBA.
Highly sophisticated portfolio.

Sancho’s investment advice motto:
Sophistication is more important than dividends.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2022 1:54 pm

It’s a magnet for nutters.

At one time. it was a hangout for supporters of the African National Congress – stroller with mixed race infant optional.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 1:56 pm

I can think of worse stock market strategies than buying a bunch of blue chips and holding them long term.

JC, do big tobacco stocks still pay out fat dividends? I seem to recall you saying Philip Morris is a nice little earner.

Frank
Frank
September 25, 2022 1:56 pm

Bum rap?

Bum wrap might be a slight improvement.
/apostrophe man

shatterzzz
September 25, 2022 1:56 pm

Oh dear! .. this is gonna get excruciating come the World Cup! ..
nil all half time at Eden Park between Socceroos & NZ but uuuuuuuuuuuugh! .. Marco Tilio missed the only created chance in 45 minutes .. 2 mts out with an empty goal, NZ goalkeeper stretched out on the turf, and he managed to push it wide under no pressure .. other than a lot of falling over the rest of the half is forgettable! ….

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2022 1:57 pm

Ed is flailing like Sam Reid yesterday.

Ahahahaahaaaaa.

BAM.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2022 1:58 pm

other than a lot of falling over the rest of the half is forgettable!

Socka, in a nutshell.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 25, 2022 2:00 pm

I thought he was an extrovert.

Even that is breaching tradition

As heir to the Celestial Empire he should be inscrutable.

Perhaps all this fuss is about him being scruted.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 25, 2022 2:04 pm

Here’s a few things that only an opinionated Fathead could be bothered to dispute:
The sky is blue
Water is wet
Aborigines are Wheat and Lactose Intolerant, and are extremely r/selected.

I’m old fashioned in certain respects. I look at evidence before forming an opinion. BB has provided evidence for his belief, you haven’t.

Razey
Razey
September 25, 2022 2:05 pm

Melbourne ground zero for lockdown harms, says health expert

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-ground-zero-for-lockdown-harms-says-health-expert-20220922-p5bkcc.html

The most effective remedy is prison time for Dan and all his goons. In addition, compensation must be paid to those who resisted his tyranny.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 2:05 pm

I just cannot take elite soccer seriously. How can you respect a sport whose players, whenever leg contact is made, routinely drop to the ground and roll around in apparent agony as if they’ve just incurred multiple fractures, only to stand up after the ref’s made a call (or not), pretend to limp for a couple of steps before trotting off again, right as rain? And it’s so obvious. How is this conduct not totally contemptuous to the point that anyone with a pair turns it off in disgust?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I look at evidence before forming an opinion. BB has provided evidence for his belief, you haven’t.

It matters not a whit if BB is who he says he is.
It matters plenty if Ed Case is able to back up his claim of Australian Aborigines being wheat intolerant.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 2:08 pm

I mean, I realise some nationalities are more prone to diving and faking than others, but they all fake like hell. If you didn’t, you’d be uncompetitive.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

How can you respect a sport whose players, whenever leg contact is made, routinely drop to the ground and roll around in apparent agony as if they’ve just incurred multiple fractures, only to stand up after the ref’s made a call

This doesn’t happen in Rodeo or Rugby League.
If the Soccer mob object to being called “soccer-poofs” they’d be well advised to start by driving that piece of feminine sooking from the game.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2022 2:10 pm

That doesn’t qualify as Informed Opinion, dumbo.

It’s now been established that, in the interests of learning something every day, Ed is a demonstrated incompetent in the ‘informed opinion’ fields of:

Agriculture (subcategories of gypsum, irrigation, cropping, meat, meat exports and farm management);
Anthropology (subcategories of migration, diet and evolution);
Geopolitics (subcategories of the Westminster System, constitutional republics, political factions and associated research and development, espionage, counterespionage and ‘spooks’);
Geography (subcategories of European countries and how long they have existed – ie, Germany);
Warfare (subcategories of surface and subsurface naval operations, limitations of particular weaponry, the definition of ‘piracy’); and
Sport (Joe Burns).

There are more. It is safe to assert that he doesn’t get out much.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I realise some nationalities are more prone to diving and faking than others

It began with the Mediterranean players & took a helluva long time to spread into the northern European clubs.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 2:11 pm

The South Americans appear to give the Italians a good run for their money.

Digger
Digger
September 25, 2022 2:11 pm

.17HMR cases are prone to separation in the chamber.

Far too many of my .17 cases split in the chamber….

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

It’s now been established that, in the interests of learning something every day, Ed is a demonstrated incompetent in the ‘informed opinion’ fields of:

KD a notable mention must go to his traffic law expertise.
Specifically that Traffic Direction signals are legally “Nazi Salutes” in Queensland thus Qld Police on traffic duty can only use special paddles instead of hand signals.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2022 2:12 pm

Consumers across Australia can expect hikes worth billions in the costs of transporting power after a watchdog said there needed to be a “quantum leap” in spending on poles and wires to deal with the switch to renewable energy.

Poles and wires aren’t the issue and never have been. Just a regulated return flowing straight overseas.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The South Americans appear to give the Italians a good run for their money.

Mediterranean stock.

rickw
rickw
September 25, 2022 2:13 pm

The most effective remedy is prison time for Dan and all his goons. In addition, compensation must be paid to those who resisted his tyranny.

Trial, then 17HMR testing, then compensation!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2022 2:13 pm

If the Soccer mob object to being called “soccer-poofs” they’d be well advised to start by driving that piece of feminine sooking from the game.

It would appear to be integral to the game.

Frank
Frank
September 25, 2022 2:13 pm

Knuckle Dragger says:
September 25, 2022 at 2:10 pm

That much effort in a response just shortens its refractory period.

John H.
John H.
September 25, 2022 2:14 pm

Ed Casesays:
September 25, 2022 at 1:36 pm
And on this subject, he’s qualified to give an informed opinion, so I’m obliged to him.

He’s given an anecdote based on his family.
That doesn’t qualify as Informed Opinion, dumbo.

On the issue:
Are you seriously saying that Australian Aborigines aren’t Intolerant to Wheat, a food they were never exposed to in thousands of years on this continent?

Non-exposure doesn’t mean intolerance. That’s a nuts argument(two meanings).

I couldn’t find any studies on gluten and Aus aborigines. Nothing on the issue in pubmed. If it was present it would have been discovered by now.

Studies demonstrate a different insulin response so a little caution there for the indigenous, perhaps aiming for a more low carb diet; an idea a great many people across the world should think about. Statistical result though and we are bespoke creatures. The indigenous friends during my lifetime never mentioned gluten issues.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 25, 2022 2:15 pm

OCO, Freo is all downhill from Greylands (no relation though sometimes I wonder). Mate lived up the hill from an open mental facility was never worried as he reckoned they always were found downhill when they went missing.

rickw
rickw
September 25, 2022 2:15 pm

Far too many of my .17 cases split in the chamber….

Sure you don’t have a chamber problem? My sister has one and has never experienced this and it’s a farm vermin rifle so it’s had a ton of rounds through it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2022 2:16 pm

Specifically that Traffic Direction signals are legally “Nazi Salutes” in Queensland

A frightful error on my part. Akin to discussing rugby league without mentioning Wally Lewis.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2022 2:18 pm

Daily Mail.

Man is caught urinating on grave of ex-wife he divorced 48 years ago by woman’s stunned children: Travels to cemetery to desecrate her tombstone EVERY DAY while his current spouse waits in the car

A man has been caught on camera urinating on his ex-wife’s grave
Michael Murphy, 43, first noticed something was amiss after spotting a bag of feces had been left at the gravesite on several visits
He and his sister got permission to get up a trail camera to video visitors
The man, who was married to his mother 48 years ago, was seen getting out of his car and then peeing on the gravesite
The police has said there’s nothing they can do as there’s no physical threats

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 2:20 pm

I mean, I can see why the Poms are still pissed off about Maradona handballing in that goal in 1986. He cheated blatantly – breaking a fundamental rule of the game, even – got away with it, and yet so many soccer people act like it was *wink wink* kosher, but also some kind of miracle. Huh?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2022 2:27 pm

I’m not usually like this, but this is an extraordinary circumstance.

Interweb headline:

Scott Morrison Swears Himself In as Winner of the 2022 AFL Premiership

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 2:28 pm

no relation though sometimes I wonder

It’s spelt with an ‘a’ not an ‘e’ – that makes all the difference.

The state keeps threatening to shut Graylands – pre-Covid, I think they were going to close it by the mid 2020s but that’s been postponed. Weird because they didn’t have an alternative site that I was aware of. Were they just going to spread all of the criminally insane people it houses across the state’s smaller units? There doesn’t seem to be any planning to it. Yeah just shut it down and we’ll just deal with any problems if they arise.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 25, 2022 2:29 pm

Poles and wires aren’t the issue and never have been.

Then, pray tell, how the power generated in UpperBumfuck gets delivered to the grid unless new poles & wires are built to carry the power to the rest of the grid?

shatterzzz
September 25, 2022 2:31 pm

I just cannot take elite soccer seriously.
Where I come from, Newcastle/Toon soccer is something your born with .. it’s not a choice it’s the religion ……. no LOL’s from the pulpit .. pleeeze!

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2022 2:33 pm

Re the announcement that the renewable energy projects would require quantum leap in wiring the grid:

This is exactly what many farmers fear. The prospect of the massive grid connections from solar & wind farms that will cross many holdings – large & small. All of us have seen the great towers already built on private holdings connecting to the grid. Few want them – even if they are offered compensation. They would certainly blight the great beauty of our valley.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 2:34 pm

The Euros seem determined to shoot themselves in the head.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2022 2:40 pm

I mean, I can see why the Poms are still pissed off about Maradona

That may be a convenient front, concealing their overriding annoyance with:

1. Shit weather;
2. 67.5 million people crammed into the same space as Victoria;
3. Having to pay for a TV licence;
4. Kippers;
5. Shit weather;
6. Having to eat kippers;
7. Piers Morgan;
8. Being next to continental Europe; and now
9. Having to freeze and starve in the dark, and wishing for a bit of sleet to take the edge off.

2dogs
September 25, 2022 2:47 pm

Poles and wires aren’t the issue and never have been.

Better “poles & wires” are needed to deal with the “duck curve” created by solar. A lot of variation happening every day.

You can reduce it by having the storage that solar needs located at the end users.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 25, 2022 2:50 pm

I see Job is still trying to get around having to back up his original claim by insisting Black Ball back up his rebuttal to Job’s original claim.

Job proffers no proof but thinks it might be good enough to demand the proof from others.

But even if it turned out (and I do not believe this but bear with me) that BB was not Aboriginal, it would not prove Job’s original claim true.

But he will stick with the demand rather post proof of his own assertion.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 2:51 pm

I couldn’t find any studies on gluten and Aus aborigines. Nothing on the issue in pubmed.

Did I say Gluten was an Issue?
No.
Here’s some well meaning advice:
Avoid Stoush Trolling, there’s enough idiots here already.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 25, 2022 2:55 pm

I read an article from the ABC recently about a couple of carbon-obsessed weirdos who are trying to make their C02 outputs as teensy weensy as possible. They’d even built their own home battery by lashing together hundreds of old computer batteries – apparently it works, good for them.

Anyway, the guy was crapping on about how the thing that really cut their CO2 outputs was when they bought their electric cars. Of course he hadn’t included the significant additional CO2 emissions from manufacturing an EV relative to emissions from the production of an ICE car. But they never do. If you were genuinely worried about your CO2 output above all else, you’d buy a relatively fuel efficient second hand car and drive it into the ground before replacing it with another.

Generally, I don’t get into debates with people over things like carbon footprints because why cede the ground to them? However, it’s fun to point out their blindspots when they’re posturing. Now if you were *really* serious about reducing your stupid carbon footprint…

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 25, 2022 2:59 pm

Hi Groogs;

But even if it turned out (and I do not believe this but bear with me) that BB was not Aboriginal, it would not prove Job’s original claim true.

He’s claimed

Everyone here knows i’m Aboriginal

or words to that effect.
10 minutes later a commenter who’s been here since 2010 at least says

I didn’t know you were Aboriginal

So, this guy’s rebuttal consists of him saying:

I’m an Aborigine and none of my family are Wheat Intolerant, where’s your evidence?

So, yeah, claiming Aboriginality is central to his demand for me to do his research for himj.

Razey
Razey
September 25, 2022 3:01 pm

Oh come onsays:
September 25, 2022 at 2:55 pm
I read an article from the ABC recently about a couple of carbon-obsessed weirdos who are trying to make their C02 outputs as teensy weensy as possible.

The greenies between Launching Place & Gembrook were enjoying the gases generated from my 1100cc inefficient air cooled ducati today. The noise pollution was even better 😉

Tom
Tom
September 25, 2022 3:03 pm

Fresh from her five wins at Mornington yesterday, Jamie Kah already has two wins and a second from three starts at Sandown with five more rides to come, including Zaaki, the $2.40 favourite in the $1 million group 1 Underwood Stakes (1800m).

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2022 3:09 pm

Re the social media chatter in the last 24 hours that Xi has been overthrown – the online Australian Spectator is commenting that there is rarely nothing behind such a coordinated spread of rumour. The article speculates that India may be pushing the rumour as the date for Xi’s renewal of power approaches.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 25, 2022 3:14 pm

So, yeah, claiming Aboriginality is central to his demand for me to do his research for himj.

When X says P and Y says not- P, the credibility of P versus not-P has to take into account both the evidence they adduce and an estimate of the reliability of X and Y based on other things they have said. My estimate of BBs reliability is fairly high, and he has adduced evidence. My estimate of your reliability is rather low, and you have adduced no evidence whatever.

So I’m going with BB. It’s not a hard choice.

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