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The Battle of Lepanto, Paolo Veronese, 1572

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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 10, 2022 6:07 pm

It’s not as though they’re going to get pregnant anytime soon unless it’s a midnight Friday night accident.

LARPing.

They can pretend that it is an issue that might effect them and invite the assumption that they might be desirable.

For all their bombast declaring that they are beyond the inauthentic patriarchal chaining of women to the home by their own uteruses, it is actually a coping mechanism to manage the gnawing emptiness from never having had something their uni professors persuaded them to despise – someone who would take on the world for them and at the same time treat them with a tenderness verging on worship.

calli
calli
October 10, 2022 6:07 pm

I’ll give you a report on Haneda in a couple of days. Japan was late to reality too. Probably will get more crazy the closer I get to home.

Tom
Tom
October 10, 2022 6:11 pm

I’m coming around to Simon Bryant, the screaming queen* on SBS Food in the excellent The Cook and The Chef with Maggie Beer (weekdays at 4.30pm).

Bryant is the Alan Joyce of TV cooking pouves: he understands in intricate detail how much it costs to run a large capital city restaurant business turning out five-star tucker.

It’s a great show for learning short-cuts to producing top-class food for the family on a budget (Bryant is the chef in the title and Beer is the self-taught cook).

*Because cooking in an art, not a science, most of the male SBS food presenters are screaming queens.

Roger
Roger
October 10, 2022 6:12 pm

If you desire a (near as you can get) replacement, you may find ebay is your friend.

I think Dan’s sells the genuine Scottish made ones (Glencairn) for a reasonable price.

Chris
Chris
October 10, 2022 6:12 pm

I approve of suitable shit stirring.

Indeed, as long as the apparatus are suitably suitable.

calli
calli
October 10, 2022 6:14 pm

Whoops! Spoke too soon. Masked Avenger just entered the lounge.

Covid won’t get her the moment she pours that glass of champers.

Trust The Science.

Zipster
Zipster
October 10, 2022 6:15 pm

Unconfirmed reports Zelensky’s office hit.

Looks like a post apocalyptic vogue set coming

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2022 6:18 pm

I think Dan’s sells the genuine Scottish made ones (Glencairn) for a reasonable price.

They do, indeed.

Chris
Chris
October 10, 2022 6:19 pm

Tragedy!

It is startling how adaptable one can be. Why, I once had nothing to drink but thrrrripple-distilled Irish whiskey, and I found that with addition of ice, I could enjoy the alcohol.

Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 6:26 pm

LOL. Is Ukraine winning yet?

Roger
Roger
October 10, 2022 6:26 pm

I have Russian friends but no Ukrainian ones. Some of the Russians have left for elsewhere. They’re uni types – I’ve worked with several over the years and Russians and Australians always get along famously in my field, at least as far as I’ve experienced.

When I was learning Russian in a previous life I mixed socially with friends of my teacher and had a great time. There was a Ukrainian lady in the group, and one fellow who had a Great Russian mother and a Ukrainian father. They didn’t appear to make distinctions between themselves. Perhaps they’d been though enough suffering to have left that behind.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 10, 2022 6:30 pm

test

Indolent
Indolent
October 10, 2022 6:33 pm

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Ignore them. Nothing good can come from it.

Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 6:36 pm

Vlad knows the co-ordinates of the Hunchback’s house.

bespoke
bespoke
October 10, 2022 6:36 pm

Ignore them. Nothing good can come from it.

Not easy if they your credit card details.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Once your account is updated. Your account can be closed.

Paypal, in addition to the accounts now ostentatiously closed, is going to find a helluva lotta very very dormant orphan accounts. (i.e. no bank a/c or credit card attached)

Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 6:39 pm

Seems all the Ukraine shills are a bit quiet this evening 😉

Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 6:40 pm

But but but the TV told me Ukraine was winning!

Chris
Chris
October 10, 2022 6:43 pm

Seems all the Ukraine shills are a bit quiet this evening ?

I can cosplay one, if you send $ for my etsy expenses.

Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 6:45 pm

Chrissays:
October 10, 2022 at 6:43 pm
Seems all the Ukraine shills are a bit quiet this evening ?

I can cosplay one, if you send $ for my etsy expenses.

I’d try PayPal, but it seems everyone has closed their accounts…..

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 6:49 pm

Between power prices and tax cuts I don’t think we’ll be seeing Albo for a while. The rubber is hitting the road. A$ and mortgage defaults still to come.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 10, 2022 6:55 pm

You have to seriously wonder if the pirates wife’s sub-judice grandstanding at the Logies was a desperate attempt to get the whole thing tanked before trial.
That’s the only logical explanation.
The Uniparty don’t want it to go ahead, and Brittany is surrounded by the sort of people who’d sell their mother for a bottle of Hundred Pipers.
I feel sorry for Brittany Higgins.

Roger
Roger
October 10, 2022 6:57 pm

Between power prices and tax cuts I don’t think we’ll be seeing Albo for a while. The rubber is hitting the road. A$ and mortgage defaults still to come.

Beyond Blue reports that cost of living is now the number one issue keeping Australians awake at night.

If I were a betting man I’d wager that with Elbow & Co, it’s the fortunes of the republic.

Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 6:57 pm

The rubber is hitting the road.

You mean the rubber is leaving the tarmac.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 7:01 pm

If I were a betting man I’d wager that with Elbow & Co, it’s the fortunes of the republic.

I suspect it is less than 50:50 we ever see the inside of a ballot box on either the Voice or the Republic. The Liars don’t have that sort of political capital.

Lysander
Lysander
October 10, 2022 7:02 pm

UKR media reporting the following number of missile strikes:

-47 in Nikolaev
-60 in Kyiv
-15 in Lvov
-27 in Vinnitsa region
-20 in Kharkov
-15 in Odessa region.

48 kamikaze drones launched from Belarus…

Lysander
Lysander
October 10, 2022 7:03 pm

Large parts of UKR also now without power or internet.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 7:03 pm

The Poot isn’t going to die wondering.

Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 7:06 pm

This is a good chance for China to test out their ordinance on Woke West proxies.

Roger
Roger
October 10, 2022 7:07 pm

I suspect it is less than 50:50 we ever see the inside of a ballot box on either the Voice or the Republic. The Liars don’t have that sort of political capital.

To listen to them you’d think they got 52% of the primary vote, not 32%.

Chutzpah.

Or, if you prefer the Greek, hubris leading to nemesis.

Roger
Roger
October 10, 2022 7:09 pm

UKR media reporting the following number of missile strikes

Let’s not get too excited .

Missile strikes don’t gain or hold territory, which is what this war is about.

Lysander
Lysander
October 10, 2022 7:09 pm

Zelensky has released a statement (so he’s not dead) along the lines of “stay strong, they are trying to wipe us off the face of the Earth.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 7:15 pm

Zelensky has released a statement (so he’s not dead) along the lines of “stay strong, they are trying to wipe us off the face of the Earth.

Let’s hope that’s not the next stage.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 7:19 pm

Missile strikes don’t gain or hold territory, which is what this war is about.

Maybe. In first instance.

Lysander
Lysander
October 10, 2022 7:19 pm

Indeed HB.

Let’s hope this isn’t Operation Stone Age..

Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 7:20 pm

Rogersays:
October 10, 2022 at 7:09 pm
UKR media reporting the following number of missile strikes

Let’s not get too excited .

Missile strikes don’t gain or hold territory, which is what this war is about.

But a city without power or water is useless. I’d say that is a legitimate target.

Cassie of Sydney
October 10, 2022 7:21 pm

“Chutzpah.

Or, if you prefer the Greek, hubris leading to nemesis.”

The left have chutzpah in spades. And unlike the right, when in power they don’t waste anytime implementing their ideology, even when elected with only 32% of the vote.

Roger
Roger
October 10, 2022 7:27 pm

But a city without power or water is useless. I’d say that is a legitimate target.

This is Putin throwing his toys out of the cot.

The Russian army has proven itself incapable of taking and holding Ukrainian territory.

I don’t think the mass call up and replacing generals is going to change that.

In the end, he’s going to settle for what he can retain of the territories contested since 2014 and frame it as a victory.

Meanwhile, Xi’s patience with his bestie is wearing thin and he has his own internal problems to deal with.

Tom
Tom
October 10, 2022 7:28 pm

Global warmening zealots have changed the words the MSM uses to describe the weather.

The Herald Sun isn’t reporting a correction in the long-term weather averages.

Victoria, according to the millenial clowns who misreport the news for Mudrock, will this week experience a “rain bomb”.

Brought to us by the academic Marxists who now decide what language journalists are allowed to use, replacing the old system where on-the-job cadets reported what was actually happening.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 7:28 pm

Cassie, that is why they get turfed so quickly. Luckily the Lieborals are happy to implement their policies in the following terms. Ask Martin Parkinson.

bons
bons
October 10, 2022 7:29 pm

The most comforting aspect of the UKR/RUS situation is the positive leadership being provided by the UN. Those tens of billions are really paying off us.
Apparently the little brown SEC GEN is planning to send Sharyn Burrow, St Gillian Triggs, Joan Kirner and the Slapper to have a chat with Putin.
It will probably work. They terrify me.

Roger
Roger
October 10, 2022 7:32 pm

Luckily the Lieborals are happy to implement their policies in the following terms.

Q. What’s the difference between Liberal and Labor?

A. About three years.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 10, 2022 7:35 pm

The most comforting aspect of the UKR/RUS situation is the positive leadership being provided by the UN.

Haha, excellent!

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 10, 2022 7:36 pm

Ignore everything I write. It’s crap.

Sun Tzu

miltonf
miltonf
October 10, 2022 7:36 pm

Yes Parkinson is the very model of a cold humourless highly paid canbra egg head that’s never had a real job. Very fitting to wind up at the 10th rate intellectual cess pit known as Macquarie Uni.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 10, 2022 7:37 pm

Razey

But a city without power or water is useless. I’d say that is a legitimate target.

Not under the Geneva Conventions, to the extent that either side has taken any notice of those.

Can’t they both lose?

Lysander
Lysander
October 10, 2022 7:37 pm

Pretty hard to tell what’s going on in UKR if everyone’s net is down…

Read one report that said Russia has “declared the special military operation as in a transitional stage.”

To, what?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 7:38 pm

Not sure sending Mother Russia will be much use. Should save an air fare though.

miltonf
miltonf
October 10, 2022 7:38 pm

Accused Abbot of ‘damaging’ the pubic service. Don’t worry about damaging the country. Canbra filth

Lysander
Lysander
October 10, 2022 7:39 pm

Can’t they both lose?

That’d be ideal.

But, unfortunately, I don’t think Vlag can, in his mind, afford to lose.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 10, 2022 7:41 pm

Medscape offer the following ‘research’ on ‘transgender men’. Two things of note – they speak about the insufficiency of fertility maintenance by taking ovarian tissue pre-puberty, before pre-pubertal females are ‘treated’ and they move on then to obtaining post-treatment eggs from hormone compromised post-pubertal females. Conveniently, they neglect to discuss the impact on any zygote or foetus of their ‘treatment’ of females with testosterone, merely reassuring patients that ‘children of transgender parents’ do well (a sleight of hand ignoring how these existing children were produced as they are most likely normally produced children prior to the parental gender transition; note the emphasis is on the psychological well-being of children in such families – a well-being not shown in research less biased towards positivity re ‘trans’ life).

One can forsee that affected babies born under these sub-optimal uterine conditions may be seeing lawyers when the grow up. Reading this sort of stuff is like reading some dystopian latter-day Dr. Mengele at work. Trying to turn women into men who can have babies is sheer madness – and note here how all of the emphasis is on the rights of the transitioning person and not the resultant child.

Providers are ill-equipped to handle family planning for transgender men and clinicians could use clear guidelines to ensure the best outcomes for their patients in this regard, according to new research.

A mini-review of published articles about fertility preservation in transgender men led researchers at Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical School in New Brunswick, New Jersey to report that few providers addressed the issue of fertility counseling for transgender parents.

Their recommendations have been published in the journal Fertility & Sterility Reports.

“Fertility preservation is important to discuss with patients prior to beginning gender-affirming interventions like hysterectomy and removal of ovaries, which result in irreversible infertility,” said co-author Juana Hutchinson-Colas, MD, who is director of the Division of Female Pelvic Medicine and Reconstructive Surgery at Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, in a news release on the research.

About 1.4 million adults and 150,000 young people in the United States identify as transgender.

First author Selena U. Park, MD, Department of Obstetrics, Gynecology and Reproductive Sciences at Rutgers, writes in the article that “although not every transgender patient is interested in having biological children, many indicate that they may have pursued fertility preservation if options were offered at the time of gender transition.”

Overall, the authors recommend that healthcare providers should recognize the limits of their own experience in providing information on fertility preservation; acknowledge that transgender men have similar family planning goals to cisgender counterparts; be aware of intrinsic biases that may affect how fertility counseling is delivered; and offer fertility preservation counseling to everyone regardless of their identity before they begin the transition process.

This should include discussions about ovarian tissue cryopreservation — the only procedure that can be offered to adolescents before puberty — as well as oocyte or embryo preservation, which are preferred post-puberty, as well as contraception counseling, including addressing the misconception that testosterone is an effective contraceptive.

They also advise using a multidisciplinary approach when counseling about fertility services and reassuring patients that research shows children of transgender parents are not adversely affected and few experience psychosocial problems, identity distress, depression, or gender dysphoria.

Hutchinson-Colas emphasizes overall that transgender youth and adolescents should be advised that the long-term impact of hormonal treatment for transitioning on fertility remains unclear. Children identifying as transgender and their parents should “be counseled on the effect of puberty suppression medications and the psychosocial implications of treatments.”

However, she added, “Fertility preservation options for transgender men can be pursued during any stage of gender transition, even after gender-affirming hormonal therapy has started.”

The authors reviewed six medical databases as part of their research, noting that there isn’t much published evidence in this field.

“With the help of the suggested guidelines presented in our mini-review, we hope to further the conversation about family building in the transgender community,” Park and colleagues conclude.

The authors have reported no relevant financial relationships.

F&S Reports. Published online July 19, 2022. Full text

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 10, 2022 7:43 pm

Read one report that said Russia has “declared the special military operation as in a transitional stage.”

To actual “war”? Wow, that would be an amazing development. Almost unthinkable.

MatrixTransform
October 10, 2022 7:45 pm

Kherson is a bit like a trashed air-BNB

Indolent
Indolent
October 10, 2022 7:46 pm
Roger
Roger
October 10, 2022 7:48 pm

Not under the Geneva Conventions, to the extent that either side has taken any notice of those.

Targeting civilians certainly gives the lie to Putin’s framing of this as a Christian holy war.

Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 7:48 pm

Indolentsays:
October 10, 2022 at 7:45 pm
Naomi Smith
@NaomiPennasmith
One year ago today I had my 2nd @pfizer vaccination and life as I knew it changed. The past year of suffering #vaccineinjuries has had a huge mental, emotional and financial toll. I celebrate today that I’m still here but I also shed a river of tears for the life I’ve now lost

Darwin was right.

Indolent
Indolent
October 10, 2022 7:49 pm

This is about a former FBI senior officer but is still pretty enlightening.

FBI chief was found dead after exposing sickening truth about the elite

Indolent
Indolent
October 10, 2022 7:49 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 10, 2022 7:50 pm

Here are some other articles the interested medical professional can peruse.
Note that this is now a profitable avenue of practice for the enterprising surgeon, GP or allied health practitioner. The Laryngoplasty article is one that I bothered to read (changing the male voice to a female one). There is a very high rate of complications; also a moneyspinner. Sickening stuff. :

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 10, 2022 7:51 pm

Razeysays:

October 10, 2022 at 7:06 pm

This is a good chance for China to test out their ordinance on Woke West proxies.

And who would you have them have a crack at, Razey-san?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 10, 2022 7:51 pm

Bad me. The next step up from a “special military operation” is a “police action”.
At least two or three more escalation levels before it’s a “war”.
WW2 was misnamed, it was actually only a “dustup”.

Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 7:51 pm

Indolentsays:
October 10, 2022 at 7:49 pm
Still playing God.

Only Dan Andrews speaks for God.

Cassie of Sydney
October 10, 2022 7:52 pm

” Reading this sort of stuff is like reading some dystopian latter-day Dr. Mengele at work. “

Yep, the doctors and therapists who are engaging in this transgender scam, who are advocating for castration, hysterectomies, chest binding, chopping off breasts, pumping children with puberty blockers and cross sex hormomes, are modern day Dr Mengeles. I just can’t believe we live in a society that allows this.

Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 7:52 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
October 10, 2022 at 7:51 pm
Razeysays:

October 10, 2022 at 7:06 pm

This is a good chance for China to test out their ordinance on Woke West proxies.

And who would you have them have a crack at, Razey-san?

Dan Andrews.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 10, 2022 7:54 pm

Missile strikes don’t gain or hold territory, which is what this war is about.

They can make you lose interest, but.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 10, 2022 7:55 pm

From: The Unz Review

Readers may recall my article on Robert McNamara’s Infamous “Project 100,000”,[20]
where around 500,000 severely-retarded young men, combed from the ghettos of America, were pushed into military service and sent to Vietnam. These were men who were unable and had to be taught how to tie their own shoelaces, whose reading comprehension was so low the military had to make little comic books to explain the most basic of military protocol and procedures.

Many researchers have claimed that an overwhelming majority of these men, especially blacks, received combat assignments, and “comprised an overwhelming majority of … battle deaths”, and were also generally posted to “what were considered dangerous military occupations”. These men were provided with special ‘dog tags’ that began with “US67…” so they could be quickly identified by other soldiers. By all accounts, the regular troops did not want to be associated with these men, certainly not in a battle situation, because their lack of intelligence and training simply jeopardised the lives of all around them. Many have reported that when battlefield decisions were being made, given that these men were unable to learn anything much more complicated than pulling a trigger, they were just sent to their deaths. One Vietnam veteran reported that a common order issued to these young men ‘salvaged from the blight of poverty’ was to “Go over there and see if there’s a sniper in that tree”.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 10, 2022 7:55 pm

Medscape is fully on board with all of this ‘gender affirmative’ ideology.

Comments are heavily monitored.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 10, 2022 7:57 pm

So the micro-dicked dictator lobs missiles at civilians in Kiev because his bridge got hit.
Winning hearts and minds for sure.

Indolent
Indolent
October 10, 2022 7:58 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2022 7:58 pm

Sex worker an independent contractor, ‘not an employee’

Ewin Hannan
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@EwinHannan
2 hours ago October 10, 2022
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The Fair Work Commission has thrown out a Melbourne sex worker’s unfair dismissal claim against the Top of The Town brothel, after finding she was an independent contractor, not an employee.

Lucy Helft lodged the unfair dismissal claim after being told in June that she would not get any more shifts at the brothel.

Following a series of disputes with her manager, the brothel said Ms Helft’s services were terminated because of “unacceptable and threatening behaviour”.

Top of The Town said Ms Helft had provided sex work services as an independent contractor, and was not protected from unfair dismissal as she was not an employee as defined in the Fair Work Act.

The brothel said it provided booking, introduction, accommodation and related support and statutory services to sex workers, who in turn provided sex work services to customers “in the conduct of their sole trader business activities”.

It sought to have Ms Helft’s unfair dismissal claim dismissed on the basis that it was beyond jurisdiction.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 10, 2022 7:59 pm

Targeting civilians certainly gives the lie to Putin’s framing of this as a Christian holy war.
Where did Putin say that?

Indolent
Indolent
October 10, 2022 7:59 pm
Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 8:00 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
October 10, 2022 at 7:57 pm
So the micro-dicked dictator

Seems to work for Dan Andrews. They still vote for that freak.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 10, 2022 8:01 pm

Razeysays:

October 10, 2022 at 7:52 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
October 10, 2022 at 7:51 pm
Razeysays:

October 10, 2022 at 7:06 pm

This is a good chance for China to test out their ordinance on Woke West proxies.

And who would you have them have a crack at, Razey-san?

Dan Andrews.

So the Chunks would take out their Belts and Roads guy?
Smart thinkin’, Razey-san.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 10, 2022 8:01 pm

callisays:
October 10, 2022 at 6:07 pm
I’ll give you a report on Haneda in a couple of days. Japan was late to reality too. Probably will get more crazy the closer I get to home.

Potential big EQ coming your way. Remain vigilant.

Razey
Razey
October 10, 2022 8:02 pm

Vlad needs to take Odessa. Ukraine doesn’t deserve access to the sea.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 10, 2022 8:03 pm

Razeysays:

October 10, 2022 at 8:02 pm

Vlad needs to take Odessa. 

I’ll let him know, Razey-san.

cohenite
October 10, 2022 8:07 pm

Why Trump Must Run

The analysis includes some good observations about DeSantis:

The response to the raid ranged from incredulity and disgust from the voting public to a kind of mollusk-like belching from the current GOP leadership. Evidently, there is somebody named “DeSantis,” who is, believe it or not, the governor of Florida, where Mar-a-Lago is located. The DoJ, in defiance of law, tradition, and common sense, set out to persecute an innocent man living in Florida, which DeSantis purports to govern. He could have answered this in tones of thunder, demanding to know what the Hell they thought they were doing in his state. He could have ordered the local SAC (special agent in charge) to appear at his office, and when he didn’t show up, drove over to his office escorted by State Police and plenty of media, to publicly humiliate him. He could even have shut the office down and ordered the staff out of state, as used to occur with regularity in my hometown when I was a kid (granted, it was the Mob-controlled police force that was doing this in Utica, but the principle is sound).

But he didn’t do any of this. No, he released a “statement,” which I’m not going to bother to look up – reading it once was enough. But it went something like, “That wasn’t very nice… maybe you shouldn’t do things like that.”

So much for the young GOP lion.

Roger
Roger
October 10, 2022 8:09 pm

Missile strikes don’t gain or hold territory, which is what this war is about.

They can make you lose interest, but.

We’ll see; thus far the Ukrainians, who are defending their homeland, aren’t for turning and neither are the Russians, although apart from relatives of dead or maimed soldiers the latter are yet to feel the impact of the war.

And I’ll stand by my prediction – for what it’s worth at this distance – that Putin will come away with all or some of the originally contested territories and frame it as a victory.

If he tries for more than that, hitherto more or less neutral leaders Xi, Modi and Erdogan will distance themselves.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
October 10, 2022 8:12 pm

This piece of excrement

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-10/melbourne-brothel-manager-court-child-sex-work-offence/101517382

gets a non-custodial sentence from the Victorian court that gave Cardinal Pell a head sentence of six years.

Comment is superfluous.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
October 10, 2022 8:12 pm

Rogersays:
October 10, 2022 at 7:09 pm
UKR media reporting the following number of missile strikes

Let’s not get too excited .

Missile strikes don’t gain or hold territory, which is what this war is about.

But a city without power or water is useless. I’d say that is a legitimate target.

It is a very nasty escalation by Vlad targeting civilian infrastructure. But from a military perspective he wants to slow down the resupply lines from Western and Central Ukraine to the front lines in Eastern Ukraine. He wants the rest of Ukraine to have a much harder existence. Unfortunately there won’t be much left of Ukraine in a year or two if this keeps up. The US needs to get a peace process going. How are they going to do I don’t know.

cohenite
October 10, 2022 8:16 pm

Alinta boss says electricity prices will go up by over 35% next year. Nicholas Reece, kunt that he is, defends ruinables because they’re cheaper because business is investing in them instead of fossils. Canavan attempts to point out that ruinables are subsidised so business is just following government money and edicts and laws banning coal.

Fuuuuck! Ruinables can never be cheaper because they only work 30% of the time and no one can predict when.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 8:20 pm

Nicholas Reece, kunt that he is, defends ruinables because they’re cheaper because business is investing in them instead of fossils.

Any so-called market signals have been irrelevant for over a decade. It’s all about gaming now.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 10, 2022 8:21 pm

The US needs to get a peace process going.

LOL! The US is not the slightest bit interested in stopping the war.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 10, 2022 8:26 pm

In the run up to the Victorian election, 2020 & 2021 have been retconned.

Cassie of Sydney
October 10, 2022 8:29 pm

“The US needs to get a peace process going. How are they going to do I don’t know.”

Funny that. Current US leadership doesn’t seem to have any interest in a “peace process”, nor does the UN. In fact, this current US leadership under the Rotting Corpse, along with most other western leaders, have encouraged Zelensky the Clown’s belligerence. Only two leaders have urged the two sides to talk, one is Macron and the other is Pope Francis. If Ukraine thinks it’s going to get the Crimea back, they’ve got another thing coming.

In the meantime, pity the Ukrainian people. They’re the pawns of this war.

duncanm
duncanm
October 10, 2022 8:30 pm

Power prices in Australia will soar by at least 35 per cent in 2023 amid a choppy energy transition and the closure of coal plants, the nation’s fourth-largest electricity retailer said.

.. and aligned with the reserve bank, we have the clowns at the Australian Energy Market Commission

2020 Price trends report:

NSW households can look forward to lower electricity prices between now and 2023, with new modelling showing an expected 2% drop – a saving of nearly $30.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 8:32 pm

… new modelling showing an expected 2% drop – a saving of nearly $30.

Who did that? Treasury?

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
October 10, 2022 8:33 pm

Mother Lode, I get it. Many years ago I discovered the secret to drinking home brew beer is to decant it steadily into a large red wine glass, held up to the light and ensuring none of the sediment leaves the bottle. Super clean glass, chilled like the beer and tilted to get the best head. Hold it up to the light and marvel. Not all wine glasses are the same. Some are just right, others just don’t cut it. It’s like becoming a daddy when it all comes together. Broke my glass recently and unable to replace as no op shops. Long time til next trip to the city. Tall and bulbous it was. Shattered into a million tiny pieces. I get it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 8:35 pm

I’m not even sure Teh Ponds Institute would put their name to that.

duncanm
duncanm
October 10, 2022 8:36 pm

Who did that? Treasury?

AEMC by the looks of it.

Read the link, it is very amusing.

“The NSW results demonstrate how new sources of electricity generation like solar and
wind are driving down wholesale prices,” Mr Barr said.

duncanm
duncanm
October 10, 2022 8:37 pm

More funnies

Wholesale costs are expected to fall by 12% or $57 over the reporting period as more new generation comes into the market with demand staying flat and gas prices staying low. This is an annual average drop of 4.1%

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Power prices in Australia will soar by at least 35 per cent in 2023

The govt’s primary vote will drop by the same percentage.
Not looking good when 32% is their starting point.

duncanm
duncanm
October 10, 2022 8:39 pm

The picture becomes a little clearer:

The AEMC price trends report informs a range of stakeholders including the International Energy Agency, Reserve Bank of Australia and the Australian Energy Market Operator. It provides governments with information on how costs in different parts of the electricity sector are driving
future prices and provides context for long-term decision making on energy policy

Garbage in, garbage out.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 10, 2022 8:39 pm

The best drivers in descending order:

Rally drivers
F1 drivers
Speedway racers
Truck drivers
Garden variety drivers

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 8:40 pm

It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future – Yogi Berra. No quicker way to make yourself look foolish.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 10, 2022 8:41 pm

chopping off breasts

Or, as women’s rugby superstar Ellia Green said recently when having the chop, “top surgery”.
Reading about her attempts to pretend to be a man, I was constantly bombarded by engineered language.
“She” was always written as “him”.
She and her female partner “had a child together”. No she didn’t!
“He” won a gold medal at Rio – in the women’s 7s!!!!
At birth, Her “gender” was “assigned”.
Sickening.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 10, 2022 8:42 pm

duncanm

NSW households can look forward to lower electricity prices between now and 2023, with new modelling showing an expected 2% drop – a saving of nearly $30.

Modelling, is there anything (except deliver actual results) that it can’t do?

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 10, 2022 8:42 pm

Bugger, part 2

The best drivers in descending order:

Rally drivers
F1 drivers
Speedway racers
Truck drivers
Garden variety drivers

I have driven rally cars (Escorts ;), Ambulances, Firetrucks and semis. All had their challenges: Rally cars, on dirt, are a hoot and are sliding all the time. Paradoxically, I found tarmac rally harder to do well (and more dangerous) because you were *not* sliding all the time – but when things let go, it was sudden and hard to catch. The main issue with ambulances and firetrucks was the propensity for civilians to not see/hear you, then, when they did, to brake and swerve – you had to leave quite a ‘bubble’ around you to compensate for that. On the other hand, you had to show intent … slow down to disobey a red, but don’t stop… if you did, civilians would move off. Heavy trucks have 3 main challenges – their physical size, low power to weight (including low braking power/reserve), but hardest of all, I found, was the need to ‘balance’ the drive train load. The clutch was used only to start from rest. After that, you didnt use the clutch, but to change gear it was essential to ‘unload’ the driveline by acellerating/lifting off or the gears would simply bind and not unmesh. Add to that double declutching and overall I found the heavy truck the hardest task.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 10, 2022 8:42 pm

H B Bearsays:

October 10, 2022 at 8:32 pm

… new modelling showing an expected 2% drop – a saving of nearly $30.

Who did that? Treasury?

Looks like an inverse Neil Ferguson.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 10, 2022 8:42 pm

Many years ago I discovered the secret to drinking home brew beer is to decant it steadily into a large red wine glass, held up to the light and ensuring none of the sediment leaves the bottle. Super clean glass, chilled like the beer and tilted to get the best head. Hold it up to the light and marvel.

Then pour the beer down the sink and fill the red wine glass with red wine.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 8:42 pm

Garden variety drivers

The ones who regularly hit houses.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 8:44 pm

Then pour the beer down the sink and fill the red wine glass with red wine.

We are still several quarters from the need to drink home brew.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 10, 2022 8:47 pm

And I’ll stand by my prediction – for what it’s worth at this distance – that Putin will come away with all or some of the originally contested territories and frame it as a victory.

Seems about right.

Russia, under Putin, will be shunned by the West; it will become a client state of Emperor for Life Xi, and be picked at by lampreys like Iran, the Shitstans, and opportunists like Erdogan.

The US, wounded, will shuffle off into isolation – at least until its animal spirits recover.

The EU experiment is over.

chrisl
chrisl
October 10, 2022 8:48 pm

Calli , I love your travel posts ( and possibly love you) and have travellled a fair bit myself , but have no desire to travel in the foreseeable future.
It all seems too hard

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 10, 2022 8:49 pm

as women’s rugby superstar

The what?

There’s a what now?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 8:50 pm

Old School Conservative at 8:41 – Orwell had them pinged on the use of language.

Indolent
Indolent
October 10, 2022 8:51 pm

121,882 Children as Young as 6 Tracked for ‘Transgender’ Treatment
Puberty blockers have been inflicted on as “at least 4,780 adolescents”.

This is not an original thought, but doesn’t this prove that pedophiles are running things? What do puberty blockers do but trap people in an adolescent state?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 8:53 pm

rugby superstar

About as rare as a male mother.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 10, 2022 8:54 pm

We are still several quarters from the need to drink home brew.

Everyone should make one batch of homebrew in their lives.
Anyone who makes another, however …

Indolent
Indolent
October 10, 2022 8:55 pm

The US, wounded, will shuffle off into isolation – at least until its animal spirits recover.

The EU experiment is over.

Not to be sniffed at.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 8:56 pm

Everyone should make one batch of homebrew in their lives.

Like kittens, the trouble is giving it away.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 10, 2022 8:57 pm

We are still several quarters from the need to drink home brew.

Winter is coming.

Over many years I’ve flirted with homebrew, researched the science behind it, and followed homebrew gurus. I’ve never got to the stage where XXXX doesn’t seem like nectar in comparison.

I know one person who can make an acceptable ale. He’s nearly dead.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 10, 2022 8:59 pm

H B Bearsays:

October 10, 2022 at 8:56 pm

Everyone should make one batch of homebrew in their lives.

Like kittens, the trouble is giving it away.

When you have 30 laid down in the shed you fear they will explode and the brew will be lost.
When you’ve had two, you start wishing it on the remaining 28.

Cassie of Sydney
October 10, 2022 8:59 pm

“121,882 Children as Young as 6 Tracked for ‘Transgender’ Treatment
Puberty blockers have been inflicted on as “at least 4,780 adolescents”.”

I’ve long argued that this whole transgender movement is, at its core, an ideology that aims to separate children from parents, and to groom children en masse for sexual purposes. The ideology of transgenderism is about the sexualisation of children and is about normalising adult/child sexual relationships. The scandal in the West is that this grooming has long been given cover by the progressive left and particularly by social media platforms and the MSM. But we are now seeing this dam beginning to crack wide open and it’s high time. Last week the UK Telegraph finally did something that the MSM should have been doing over the last decade, it launched an investigation into the UK transgender charity “Mermaids”, a children’s transgender charity that has numerous celebrities spruiking for it, even the Ginger and the Whinger. First the Telegraph reported that the charity were sending teenage girls chest-flattening devices (which can do serious damage to a young girl’s health), without parental consent and then the Telegraph revealed that one of its trustees, a Dr Jacob Breslow, had attended a paedophile-support conference and had written numerous papers advocating for “adult/minor attraction”, in plain parlance….pedophilia.

Cassie of Sydney
October 10, 2022 9:01 pm

“but doesn’t this prove that pedophiles are running things? What do puberty blockers do but trap people in an adolescent state?”

Correct.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 9:03 pm

I think the Coopers kits have taken a lot of the guesswork out of it. The old man used think a pint of home brew stout was adequate reward for a day’s labour when visiting the farm. I was usually too stuffed to argue.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 10, 2022 9:08 pm

Dr F.
You are destined to make one top quality batch of brew in your life.
The cruelty will be that you will not remember how you did it, or be able to replicate it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 9:09 pm

Any news on who got called while Brittany is away?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 10, 2022 9:20 pm

Dr F.
You are destined to make one top quality batch of brew in your life.
The cruelty will be that you will not remember how you did it, or be able to replicate it.

This is philosophically true.

The cruelty is, 20 years ago, Mrs F advised me that was an unwise goal.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 10, 2022 9:24 pm

Britnah is the assigned Cat name HB.
Brittany can only officially be used for for rhyming.
‘Brittany you’re shittin’ me.’

calli
calli
October 10, 2022 9:25 pm

London City airport was designed by a mad person. No airbridges? No worries, nor does Coolangatta.

However, you must climb up the stairs to walk a few metres to climb down the stairs. All while laden with cabin luggage. I felt like I was in an Escher drawing. Then, with glacial slowness, the checked bags spring forth. Ours, marked “Priority” came out last. 😀

And, finally, the cabbie tried to rip us off £52 for a metered £25 fare. He picked the wrong big, burly, grey headed Aussie (the Beloved, not me) who is always vigilant about such things. Let’s just say he left with slightly less.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2022 9:26 pm

Kumanjayi Walker inquest: Nurses did not tell elders they fled Yuendumu

Liam Mendes
Reporter
@liammendes
2 hours ago October 10, 2022

A nurse who fled a remote community before a Northern Territory policeman shot an Indigenous teenager dead has conceded she failed to inform elders that clinic staff were fleeing the town on the day of the shooting and feels her team were blamed for the death.

The inquest into the death of Kumanjayi Walker, after he was shot three times by Constable Zach­ary Rolfe during a botched arrest in Yuendumu, northwest of Alice Springs, on November 9, 2019, resumed on Monday following a week-long break.

The three-month-long inquest, held at the Alice Springs Local Court, has been told that in the hours before the shooting, Yuendumu’s medical staff fled the community after a series of break-ins at their homes and the local clinic.

It left the community of about 800 with almost no medical staff at the time Constable Rolfe shot Walker, who died on the floor of the local police station while a medical team rushed from a health centre in Yuelamu, 70km away.

Nurse Luana Symonds, primary healthcare manager at the Yuendumu Community Health Centre, told the inquest there was insufficient consultation with the community before the clinic staff left, despite her having the personal phone numbers of elders.

Under examination by counsel assisting the coroner, Peggy Dwyer, Ms Symonds said in hindsight there “absolutely” should have been an effort to contact a number of elders by telephone.

Appearing remotely from New Zealand, she agreed the decision had consequences that the Yuendumu community could “not be provided for” if there was an emergency.

The inquest heard Ms Symonds also failed to contact Aboriginal nurses who were still in Yuendumu at the time of the shooting after police called the clinic’s on-call phone – only to reach Ms Symonds, who had fled the town with other nurses.

She agreed that, in hindsight, it would have been appropriate to consider contacting the Aboriginal clinic staff.

After returning to the town on November 12, three days after the shooting, she found her house had again been broken into.

She said there was a sense within the community that she and other health centre staff who had fled the town were being blamed for Walker’s death.

calli
calli
October 10, 2022 9:27 pm

On the positive side of the ledger, the sun is shining and Greenwich is looking green and inviting. Almost time to check out the covered market and say hello to Cutty Sark.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 10, 2022 9:28 pm

H B Bearsays:

October 10, 2022 at 9:09 pm

Any news on who got called while Brittany is away?

Mr Wolf?
(The clean-up guy).

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2022 9:32 pm

On the positive side of the ledger, the sun is shining and Greenwich is looking green and inviting.

I got dragged out of the National Maritime Museum, and the Royal Observatory at the end of a rope…

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

This one sentence says so much:

After returning to the town on November 12, three days after the shooting, she found her house had again been broken into.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 10, 2022 9:35 pm

during a botched arrest ???
Infantile choice of words. Once upon a time a cadet trying to put that past an editor would be reamed, and it would never see a pixel, let alone a printing press.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 10, 2022 9:36 pm

Brittany can only officially be used for for rhyming.
‘Brittany you’re shittin’ me.’

‘Brittany, don’t spew on me.’

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 10, 2022 9:37 pm

during a botched arrest

The bloke was arrested.

The End.

JC
JC
October 10, 2022 9:39 pm
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 10, 2022 9:39 pm

I always mentally pronounce Brittany as two syllables, chav silent t’s and with a rising inflection, as in, Bri’nee?

calli
calli
October 10, 2022 9:41 pm

I got dragged out of the National Maritime Museum, and the Royal Observatory at the end of a rope…

Good lord! What did you do? 😀

Been here before and loved it. They say never go back so I’ll let you know if it’s true or not. The place is very autumnal and soft, quite a contrast to the last high summer visit. Hopefully the pubs are just as good.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 10, 2022 9:41 pm

Brittany, just have some tea
That double voddy is not for thee

Those chockies – no no, they’re not free

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 10, 2022 9:44 pm

Actually, I believe Eminem was thinking of Brittany Bingo Wings when he penned:

Now this looks like a job for me
So everybody, just follow me
‘Cause we need a little, controversy
‘Cause it feels so empty, without me

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 10, 2022 9:44 pm

Interesting re today’s witnesses in the Britnah case.
Nothing in the Oz.
SMH closed play at 1:51 with nothing to say due to “non publication order”.

cohenite
October 10, 2022 9:46 pm

What a bleak, bastard of a film, The Spy Who Came In From The Cold is. One of Buron’s best, arguably the best filmic depiction of governmental connivance. The irony is Burton made another movie, in every respect the complete opposite of In From The Cold even though it also dealt with double dealing by spies. That movie was Where Eagles Dare. A great sockum none stop action movie with a young Clint Eastwood definitely coming off as junior hero to Burton’s scheming spy who matched his intellect with thumps to the head of the Nazis. Unlike Cold Eagles had a very satisfying ending. I think I’ll have to rewatch Eagles after the dreary ending in the other.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2022 9:47 pm

After returning to the town on November 12, three days after the shooting, she found her house had again been broken into.

Tribal elders should have been told to produce the culprit within twenty four hours, or the nursing staff would be withdrawn – permanently.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 9:47 pm

Any news on who got called while Brittany is away?

So that’s a No then? Special Ed must have spent the day on re-skinning. About time.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 10, 2022 9:50 pm

London City airport was designed by a mad person. No airbridges?

Try catching a tube from there into the City.
With luggage.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 10, 2022 9:52 pm

It seems something went on, Bear, but under a suppression order.
Could it be a psych running interference for Britnah?
“She can answer questions, but no hard stuff.”

cohenite
October 10, 2022 9:53 pm

London, 10 October – New research from Net Zero Watch reveals that a loophole in the rules governing the electricity grid allows renewables generators to charge consumers twice for the same electricity.

The loophole is centred around so-called constraints payments, which are triggered when the grid has insufficient capacity to take the power generated by renewables – mostly windfarms. While the soaring cost – more than £2 billion per year – has regularly hit the headlines in recent years, it has widely been understood as being a payment to get the windfarms to “switch off”.

But Net Zero Watch has now revealed that grid rules do not in fact force windfarms to switch off – they are free to sell or use the electricity so long as they don’t inject it into the transmission grid.

Net Zero Watch’s Andrew Montford explains:

“All over the country, batteries and flywheels are being installed next to windfarm grid connections, because the operators can get a constraint payment and still sell the electricity. The consumer is therefore paying twice for the same electricity – firstly in the form of a constraint payment to divert the power from the transmission grid and then a second time when the battery releases power to the grid at a later date.”

The scandal comes just months after Net Zero Watch revealed that another loophole in the rules governing renewables was allowing operators to ignore the contracts they had signed to supply low-cost power to the grid.

Net Zero Watch’s director, Dr Benny Peiser said:

“This couldn’t come at a worse time for the consumer. It’s clear that these windfarms are only being built because the rules allow them to rip off hard-pressed households. It has to stop”.

Reece and other pricks who say ruinables are cheaper should be strung up by their scrawny balls so they generate power when their nuts flap in the wind.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 10, 2022 9:53 pm

Modelling, is there anything (except deliver actual results) that it can’t do?

No doubt there are ads in the back of magazines offering, for a token sum, to provide modelling showing a guys dick to be 50% larger.

Presumably when women are underwhelmed by the marginal member you wave the results in front of them in pdf or excel format to convince them it was more exciting than they remember.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 9:55 pm

Try catching a tube from there into the City.
With luggage.

Try catching the Tube from Heathrow with a double board bag during the morning commute. I don’t think I made many friends that day.

pete m
pete m
October 10, 2022 9:55 pm

Hi Callie

The Gold Coast Airport has FINALLY built some airbridges in their new extension – FOUR!

Sotry on it

We flew Jetstar to Cairns via the new link and as the picture shows those bridges are VERY long, but comfy.

What wasn’t comfy was the fact they had all of 8 charis in the waiting area – for flights with 200 people at a time. Also dreary colours, no artwork and not a very wide corridor. Hopeless design and colourless. Amazing the architects these days.

Enjoy your sojorn.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2022 9:55 pm

Indigenous leaders, Greens unite against the voice to parliament
Exclusive
Matthew Denholm
Tasmania Correspondent
Paige Taylor
Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
14 minutes ago October 10, 2022

Conservative Aboriginal leaders and Greens have held talks over their common opposition to a referendum on an Indigenous voice to parliament, as Anthony Albanese leans toward starving both the Yes and No campaigns of ­public funds.

A diverse range of Indigenous leaders and politicians is coalescing against the voice, ­demanding the government halt the referendum, or at least ensure public funding for an Aboriginal-led No campaign.

The Australian can reveal Indigenous businessman Warren Mundine met Greens senator Lidia Thorpe last Wednesday and discussed ramping up a No campaign, on the sidelines of wider talks with crossbench senators about Indigenous affairs.

The meeting – between Mr Mundine, a former federal Liberal Party candidate, and Senator Thorpe, who says a voice is not radical enough and a treaty between Indigenous Australians and the federal government is needed – was the first informal step to bringing conservatives and ­radicals in the Aboriginal community together to support a No campaign.

“These blokes (supporters of the voice) are better than Jesus Christ,” said a source who was at the meeting. “They have brought all these people with different politics together.”

Mr Mundine also plans a ­national talking tour with Country Liberal senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price in coming months to promote the No cause.

Veteran Aboriginal leaders across the country, including Aboriginal Land Council of Tasmania chairman Michael Mansell and former North Queensland Yarrabah Aboriginal Shire mayor Percy Neal, are also rallying colleagues to help halt the referendum. Mr Mansell is campaigning for designated Indigenous senators from each state as an alternative to the voice, while others such as Mr Neal want to move immediately to a broader treaty.

A spokeswoman for the federal Greens confirmed the meeting between Senator Thorpe and Mr Mundine took place, and did not deny they discussed their mutual opposition to the Albanese government’s referendum.

“As you would expect, Senator Thorpe meets with a range of First Nations stakeholders,” she said.

“Senator Thorpe and Greens leader Adam Bandt are currently working with the government to ensure all elements of the Uluru statement including truth, treaty and voice are delivered.”

Senator Thorpe has repeatedly attacked the voice referendum despite saying she does not oppose it in theory.

The Victorian Greens senator has called a referendum a waste of money and claimed that a campaign could be harmful to Aboriginal Australians.

Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney said the government was yet to make a decision on funding for the Yes and No campaigns. “It’s one of a number of issues that government will be consulting on … in the months ahead,” a spokesman said.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 10, 2022 10:04 pm

Try catching the Tube from Heathrow with a double board bag during the morning commute. I don’t think I made many friends that day.

It would have been jealousy.
You don’t get many surfers heading into town for the Westminster Break.

calli
calli
October 10, 2022 10:06 pm

Try catching a tube from there into the City.
With luggage.

My imagination was good enough to warn me not to . Hence Greenwich and the cab. We might pop up to Westminster tomorrow on the ferry, or there’s always Southwark and a peep at The Globe.

We appear to have attracted baggage like iron filings to a magnet, so it’s a set price transfer over to LHR on Wednesday. I’m just glad my manservant is tough as teak and handy with ports. Next time I’ll engage another for the sedan chair.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 10, 2022 10:32 pm

Westminster tomorrow on the ferry, or there’s always Southwark and a peep at The Globe.

Lots of interesting stuff at Southwark.
The Tate Modern (just next door to the Globe – loads of crap and some awesome stuff), the Clink, Borough Markets (foodie central), the Old Operating Theatre opposite Guy’s (a little known horror story, the operating table carries the saw marks from 30-second amputations), and the southern entry to Tower Bridge.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2022 10:39 pm

I packed Mme Zulu off to Harrods – I lost myself in Foyles Bookshop on Charing Cross Road – the lead character in “Foyle’s War” was named after that bookshop..

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I packed Mme Zulu off to Harrods….

How many more years until the overdraft is cleared?

calli
calli
October 10, 2022 10:43 pm

I could be easily packed off to Liberty. But Regent Street is waaaay too far.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2022 10:46 pm

How many more years until the overdraft is cleared?

I allow her Harrods, she allows me Foyles and Waterstones bookshops…

Cliff Boof
Cliff Boof
October 10, 2022 10:57 pm

Faustus said:

“Over many years I’ve flirted with homebrew, researched the science behind it, and followed homebrew gurus. I’ve never got to the stage where XXXX doesn’t seem like nectar in comparison.”

I started drinking XXXX when I was posted to Queensland in the military in 1967 as a 20 year old and I thought it was pretty good. Nowadays most stock pub beer is pretty ordinary.

I’ve been brewing my own for about 45 years now using these days Coopers products exclusively which I enhance with pelleted hops and off the shelf cordials such as Bickfords Red Grapefruit and Buderim Ginger depending on whether I’m brewing pale ales or lagers or darker beers such as English Bitter. I suppose my experimentation has paid off over so many years doing different things.

Try a bit harder.

Winston Smith
October 10, 2022 10:57 pm

ZK2A:

Tribal elders should have been told to produce the culprit within twenty four hours, or the nursing staff would be withdrawn – permanently.

Aboriginal culture prevents any action being taken because once you admit there is a problem, then it’s your job to fix it.
Some of the attempts to dodge problem ownership are quite amazing and subtle, but once the jaws of the trap are closed, there’s no way out of it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2022 11:07 pm

Aboriginal culture prevents any action being taken because once you admit there is a problem, then it’s your job to fix it.

Point taken, Winston, but what’s the answer to the security on the nursing and support staff in those Third World shitholes?

Bazinga
Bazinga
October 10, 2022 11:16 pm

She can answer questions, but no hard stuff.”

That’s what she said.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 11:29 pm

I packed Mme Zulu off to Harrods….

Once you get one of those naff carry bags what else is there to get? I think I saw a 60,000 quid barbecue.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 10, 2022 11:31 pm

Also got a great photo at the Di & Dodi shrine. Money can’t buy experience.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2022 11:32 pm

Once you get one of those naff carry bags what else is there to get?

Don’t knock those carry bags – it drew a fair amount of attention in our local I.G.A…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2022 11:39 pm

Anyway “Sliante” – I’m reading Joan Beaumont’s book on “Australia’s Great Depression.” My great uncle said he spent three years on the road, with his swag on his back, looking for work, and the only reasons he volunteered in 1940, was for “Six bob a day, a pair of trousers with the arZe still in them, and the first new pair of boots he had ever owned. ” Two battles of El Alamein, Ruin Ridge, and the “Wasted campaigns” of 1944/45, in New Guinea..

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 10, 2022 11:48 pm

Cohen, The Spy… Cold was a damn hard book to get excited about. I’d started with the Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy movie with Oldman as Smiley, which seemed a bit rushed compared to my memories of the BBC miniseries, so I read that book, which challenged but rewarded, though I was primed for the plot so to speak.
Went back to …Cold, and it read like the first novel by someone who might become something, but seemed to revel in it’s bleakness- I think it might even have been a bit of a confessional from Nom le Carre. Funny, right now I remember a meeting on a firebreak in the middle of some borsch forest- who knew forest fires were a thing in continental Europe 150 years before Catastrophic capitalism hot weather?
The Tailor of Panama was weak
The Constant Gardener was weak… funnily enough it included the scarytale of Big Pharma dumping dodgy drugs on the third world… which is just a fairytale… right?
Shame about that movie, because it was a massive talent pool. Lovely Rachael Weiss, Bill Nighy, Ralph Fiennes who was fine before I realised he’s played every effing role he’s ever done with the same voice and same pitch, only ever managing to look like someone new with eight kilos of latex on his head. And the toxic cad Old Eton bad guy, dunno his name, but what a face.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 10, 2022 11:49 pm

And, finally, the cabbie tried to rip us off £52 for a metered £25 fare. He picked the wrong big, burly, grey headed Aussie (the Beloved, not me) who is always vigilant about such things. Let’s just say he left with slightly less.

Glad to hear it, Calli. Our men deserve all the praise we can give them.

Rita Panahi had a segment in her show tonight about how masculinity is under threat.
Young men are losing their protector instinct re women and are unreliable in many other ways.
A Rabbi says on the show that a lot of it is dissociative, due to intense involvement with internet porn.
An interesting comment in one of the transgender links I put up above suggests there is evidence that frequent users of internet porn are more likely than non-users to turn trans-gender.
I suspect that could be a statistical artifact – internet porn addicted users are also likely to be confused social isolates. Often on the autism spectrum. These factors leave them prey to recruitment.

Our whole society has broken free from its moorings, lost its bearings.
Talk about Shakespeare’s ‘wandering barques’, that just meant lovelornness, not loss of manhood.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 10, 2022 11:51 pm

John Le Carre- forget his real name, David something- died a shocking reactive Trot. You can see the veer left to pinko delusion in his novels.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2022 11:51 pm

I’ve got my “Don’t Welcome Me to My Own Country” bumper stickers on order.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 11, 2022 12:17 am

By the way, I call my man Hairy for a reason. He is male, and proud of it. And I am so proud of him and will say so here as often as I like, quietly – when he’s not around. For he is a modest soul.

As for geriatric lovers – Confessio. I came on here more than ten years ago in the guise of my younger self in my late thirties, perhaps early forties (telling nothing but truths in that context), in order to protect Hairy’s identity (which was a crucial requirement). Newbies don’t know that side of it nor the flirtatious ways of the old Cat back in those days, which some current disturbers of the peace, opprobriators and their recent-arrival followers, still allude to quite out of context.

We were a smaller group, and far less condemnatory than today’s scolding Kat Karens. I am no more prone these days than the next older woman to create a porn show of our marriage, which I have no hesitation though in saying is a loving one, so grow up, BBS. It is also no sin to want to look one’s best nor to relate life experiences from one’s eighties, especially if one enjoys writing as I do.

When Hairy retired, I quickly admitted my real age, ten years older than he, for it was possible to do so then without fear of damage from the probing doxxer/s who had been very busily ‘investigating’ us. Anyone who knows us personally is fully aware that my husband’s work entailed at that time a necessarily public profile, thus any doxxing of my husband via me would have been quite damaging and easily used against him in his politically-charged employment. There is a reason that this blog values anonymity. I also had my own privacy to protect.
As retired people we are both free agents now.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 11, 2022 12:18 am

Weekend 50th, friend was relating with a bit of incredulity how her 12 y o boy had stepped in for his sister who was being intimidated by another boy at the friday night leisure centre pool whoop-up, given the shithead kid a shove and said lay off my sister. She crows, “I thought, where did that come from? That’s not my boy! Where’d he get that testosterone from?! Why’d he suddenly think it’s ok to shove other kids around?!!?!” and met by much supportive clucking and sunday supplement psychology from the assembled gals.
I took a cue from another bloke before I reacted- I’m on notice for serving up home truths to “our” friends a bit too mercilessly-
One, if your son isn’t going to protect your daughter from getting static from a strange kid at the pool, who the f do you expect to? The lifeguards, who are barely three years older and not paid enough for that shit? Or are they meant to come and dob to mummy, who’s actually counting on being left alone with a cheeky can of G&T far away from the splash radius, and would be rightly shit scared of intervening despite her mantra of “it takes a village to raise a child”?
Two- and most importantly- stepping up is exactly what men do, and exactly what they should do. They should be unafraid and rightly unthinking to automatically stick their neck out for their women, and either take the lumps or take the temperature down- all bullies will crumble when tested, it’s the nature of intimidation which is foremost psychological and supported in the breach by group assent.
The idea that he should take the heat and be told to check his testosterone is ridiculous. From womenfolk, it is turkeys praying for christmas.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 11, 2022 12:29 am

Try catching a tube from there into the City.
With luggage.

Done.
In peak hour.
Never again.

rickw
rickw
October 11, 2022 12:45 am

If Australia insists on being idiotic, they’re the only ones left. Which is odd – we usually over-worry about what other countries think of us.

Sooner or later Australians are going to have to face the reality that the way they image themselves, and the way they are, parted company a long time ago.

They’re a mob of scared sheep easily herded into a corner by deranged mutts like Andrews, Gunner and McGowan.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 11, 2022 12:46 am

her 12 y o boy had stepped in for his sister

That 12 y o boy deserves a medal.
An instinctive reaction showing all the “right stuff” – family loyalty, care of his sister, and the use of an appropriate level of force.
Probably too young to have his inherent decency emasculated by Karens, marxists, fellow travellers and useful idiots.

rickw
rickw
October 11, 2022 12:53 am

Hopeless design and colourless. Amazing the architects these days.

The architects on Adelaide’s new terminal apparently had a debate about whether or not to install glass walled aero-bridges, deplaning might be delayed by passengers being transfixed by the vista of the Adelaide Hills! FMD.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 11, 2022 1:00 am

Yep OSC- a natural spur to action, then controlled force. That much is probably intuition- if his parents can let him get on with it, he’ll learn to take calculated risks, then he’s got the world at his feet.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 11, 2022 8:30 am

I’m just glad my manservant is tough as teak and handy with ports.

Just doing our usual late pack, and I can no longer lift my own suitcase.

Travelling with my gym junkie is definitely the go. He can take one in each hand! Down stairs!

rickw
rickw
October 11, 2022 2:09 pm

Excellent dinner last night with some former colleagues:

https://macelleria.gr/

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