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132andBush
132andBush
October 14, 2022 9:12 am

And just to reiterate, in case a member or two of the so called conservative side of Australian politics is reading.

Sancho Panzer says:
October 13, 2022 at 11:32 pm

From the Oz.

The price of gas can be brought down by increasing extraction without amendments to the industry code, according to former Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce.

Labor has flagged its desire to put a price cap into the code. The current mechanism, which focused on supply, was adequate, Mr Joyce said.

“If you get more supply into the market by allowing us to extract more gas, naturally enough you’re going to help our domestic price,” he told Sky News on Thursday.

“We’ve got a mechanism to keep gas domestically, but you have to produce the gas to keep it domestically and they don’t want to do that.”

The closure of gas-fired power stations was forcing manufacturing offshore, Mr Joyce added.

Well, Mr Net Fucking Zero, that is exactly what you signed up for.
All in exchange for the promise of a few footy clubrooms and new townhalls to porkbarrel Nat electorates, and which you will never see now that Elbow is in the Lodge.
FUCK OFF, BARNABY!

+1

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2022 9:12 am

The Reserve Bank of Australia said a planned software update involving its virtual servers was the cause of an outage that disrupted 800,000 transactions, worth almost a billion dollars.

The outage crippled real-time and overnight payments at banks during a four-hour window after the central bank’s fast settlement service and low-value clearing and settlement service went down between 7:21pm and 11:47pm on Wednesday.

The disruption frustrated commercial bank customers trying to send money via bank apps or websites, triggering a flurry of complaints.

The Reserve Bank confirmed to The Australian Financial Review the outage was not related to any cyber incident and had been caused by a process error in internal RBA systems.

Late on Thursday, it provided more detail, saying an error had occurred during a planned change to the software that manages its virtual servers, which are used to manage databases, which then disrupted some production servers processing payments.

This stopped the files containing payment information from being sent or received between RBA systems and stopped settlement messages relating to real-time payments being sent back to banks.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2022 9:13 am
Indolent
Indolent
October 14, 2022 9:14 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2022 9:18 am

The outage stopped payments being made by bank customers via Osko, which uses the new payments platform (NPP) to send money in the retail market in real time. Banks took heat from customers, who were not sure that payments had gone through.

NPP Australia, which manages the real-time infrastructure, said the Osko system was fully operational once the RBA issue was revolved.

Questions on real-time payments

Payments experts said the outage raised questions about the rollout of real-time payments, which are set to replace the legacy direct entry system, while criticising the RBA for the delay in restoring the system.

Said Brad Kelly, managing director of Payment Services, a consulting firm: “The time it has taken to get it back up is too long.”

It is understood business payments were also hit as a 9:30pm “batch” was not fully processed by the BECS system, leaving many payroll operations not completed and employees without their salaries.

The RBA has said FSS was designed “to quickly settle individual transactions, including payments made by consumers and businesses, 24 hours per day and 7 days a week”. But it tweeted at 8:09am on Thursday saying: “The RBA experienced an internal system engineering issue yesterday evening. The issue has been contained. Impacted external services are now operational however there has been some delay to overnight processing of payments.”

RBA staff went into emergency meetings on Wednesday night that continued into Thursday morning, and are believed to be preparing a major incident report, which should provide more detail about how the outage happened. The RBA declined to say when this would be released.

In a statement to the Financial Review, NPP Australia said: “NPP staff, NPP participants and RBA staff worked in accordance with defined procedures through last night into the early hours of this morning to respond to this RBA system issue. This work will continue today across the industry to ensure all payments which were impacted through this incident are fully processed.”

Many consumers have taken to social media to express their frustration that payments that were supposed to be sent in real-time were not received.

“I’m still waiting for funds to land in my other bank after transferring out of Westpac last night. Any timeframe on this?” one customer asked Westpac on its social media channel on Thursday afternoon.

A Westpac staff member monitoring the channel responded: “Hi there, I’m terribly sorry to hear of any concern while awaiting your funds, and we’re certainly here to help guide you in the right direction. To ensure we can best assist, could you please send us a DM with further details on what’s occurred?”

The Reserve Bank has made commercial banks report outages to maintain confidence in the payments system. Banks are now considering how this outage will be included in the next set of outage reports to be provided to the RBA.

These reports, published quarterly, have not included the reasons for outages.

Payments experts said the outage raised questions about the speed of the rollout of real-time payments in Australia, including a new service known as PayTo, which the RBA is supporting to create an alternative to card-based payments over the NPP directly from bank accounts.

Said Mr Kelly: “This casts a shadow over the rollout of PayTo, which has still not done a transaction. In terms of consumer protections and risk, we need to discuss whether NPP is a suitable replacement for debit and credit cards, while the imminent retirement of ‘direct entry’ needs to be questioned because it is the only fallback.”

The last major RBA IT disruption was in August 2018, when it experienced a complete shutdown of all primary and back-up power supplies in one of its data centres. This was caused by the incorrect execution of routine fire control systems testing in the data centre by an external party.

That shutdown hit all the RBA technology systems, including the high-value settlement system used by banks and other approved institutions to settle their payments, which was down for around three hours.

Correction: An earlier version of this story said some Centrelink were impacted by the outage; the RBA confirmed all Centrelink payments went through on Wednesday night.

duncanm
duncanm
October 14, 2022 9:19 am

Maribynong River flooding

Nah, has never happened before

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2022 9:20 am

I thought a man of your legal standing would know Yum cha is two words not one. I expect if I am to retain you, you could at least get the detail write.

My humbrest aporogy Ranga-san.
I brame auto-correct.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2022 9:22 am

First Optus data breech then the bank outage. Don’t you get the feeling we don’t have the best people working in these industries? Ah, I got it now, outsourcing. Every one of the overseas or even remote workers is a weak link in the system.

I don’t know if these specific incidents can be traced to foreign operatives but Australian corporates have been typically dull-witted when it comes to these matters. I recall when the CBA outsourced a lot of its cybersecurity around 5 years ago as a cost cutting measure an executive said they were “agnostic” as to where the new contractors were located. How dumb can you be?

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 14, 2022 9:22 am

The Ugandan Army Parachute Display Team are probably wishing
they’d never heard of the Ugandan Army Parachute Display Team.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 9:25 am

JP Morgan sent Kanye a letter telling him to find another bank for him & his empire.

I’m guessing Paypal is out as well?

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 14, 2022 9:26 am

‘rain bomb’ hysteria

Even predictive text is hysterical.
Type in BOM in a text message and you get ‘bomb’.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2022 9:30 am

The Oz reporting that Lisa Wilkinson dropped as a witness from the Lehrmenn rope trial.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2022 9:30 am

The price of gas can be brought down by increasing extraction without amendments to the industry code, according to former Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce.

Was he leader at the time the development of gas off Newcastle was banned?
Why yes, yes he was.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 9:33 am

We already know the sinking of the Titanic was faked, the Victorian Rural chef whose name I’ve forgotten, back on deadcat, was adamant.

Well, it seems the ‘4 Ka52s shot down in 10 minutes’ is questionable – once you realise they lied to you about 1 thing, you realise they lie about *everything*

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2022 9:34 am

Higgins expected to return to witness box after absence
Kristin Shorten
KRISTIN SHORTEN

Brittany Higgins is expected to return to the witness box in Bruce Lehrmann’s high-profile rape trial in Canberra this morning.

Cross examination of Ms Higgins by defence barrister Steven Whybrow is scheduled to resume in the ACT Supreme Court at 10am on day nine of the trial.

The 27-year-old’s cross examination commenced last week but was suspended on Monday after the court was told that the complainant was “unavailable” for the last four days.

The court has heard that the former Liberal staffer’s evidence is expected to be completed by lunchtime.

The court has continued hearing evidence from key witnesses during Ms Higgins’ absence this week but there is a non-publication order over all of that evidence until Ms Higgins completes her cross-examination.

Ms Higgins has accused Mr Lehrmann of raping her inside a ministerial office at Parliament House in the early hours of March 23, 2019.

She alleged the assault occurred in the office of their boss at the time, then-defence industry minister Linda Reynolds, after a night out drinking with colleagues in Canberra shortly before the 2019 election.

Mr Lehrmann has pleaded not guilty to sexual intercourse without consent.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 14, 2022 9:35 am

UK to send air defense missiles to Ukraine

I gather the Ukies have been blazing through their AD stock
trying to bring down flying Doritos.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2022 9:37 am

The Oz reporting that Lisa Wilkinson dropped as a witness from the Lehrmenn rope trial.

Having gone out and bought a new designer outfit specifically for the occasion, she’s inconsolable.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2022 9:38 am

More courtroom guidance for Duk.

“You have no standing, sir!
I give you six days to repent.
.
.
Tap, tap.
Is this thing still on?”

– Ricardo Sun Tzu

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2022 9:38 am

Should be plenty of good Brittany updates if she reappears today. Witnesses, witness lists, the defence (possibly). Let’s see.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 9:38 am

“JP Morgan sent Kanye a letter telling him to find another bank for him & his empire.”

Once again, this is a very concerning development and we should all be worried about this. If they can do this to Kanye, they can and will do it to ordinary people whose views they don’t like or don’t think are quite kosher.

Did I mention that BTC is a non seizable, non censorable, non inflatable, private peer to peer money’?

and yes, you CAN buy stuff with it … OTR takes it, and they are effectively mini supermarkets.

duncanm
duncanm
October 14, 2022 9:40 am

The court has heard that the former Liberal staffer’s evidence is expected to be completed by lunchtime.

Counsel: What do you have to say about last week’s testimony?
B: “I’m afraid it was all bullshit.”

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 9:42 am

they’d probably call the cops on the constituents, after all, if you remember, that’s what the recent unlamented Liberal member for Reid, Fiona Martin, did when she faced tough questions and some heckling. Really, is that what they did!

They have form, my state MP, the then SA Attorney General, Josh Teague, sent the boys around to have a chat with me due to my critique of the COVID nonsense.

https://rumble.com/vp8bxl-senior-australian-military-doctor-visited-by-police-after-contacting-mp-abo.html

Rabz
October 14, 2022 9:42 am

Just closed my paypal account without incident. They obviously hadn’t twigged I’m an unrepentant purveyor of misinformation.

duncanm
duncanm
October 14, 2022 9:42 am

There is some hope for NZ

Although (for some unfathomable reason) the horse whisperer is still preferred leader, the “direction the government is taking the country” has tanked to 50+% ‘wrong’ and 35% ‘right’.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 9:47 am

the Soviet Union didn’t publish anything near what could be regarded as reliable stats.

And the west is no different – they admit to inflation rates of around 6-10%, but have changed the formula (eg via ‘substitution’ – if the price of steak is up 20%, they drop it from the ‘basket of goods’ and say ppl will eat mince (which is only up 6%) instead, and ‘hedonic adjustment’ – they say you car went up 20% in price, but its a better car now, so we are going to adjust that increase downwards)

If you use the 1970s inflation equation, current inflation in the West is as bad as it was in the 1970s, ie nearly 20%.

Now compare that to their centrally planned interest rate of around 4-5% and ask yourself how high interest rates need to go to tame inflation (pro tip – interest rates have to be higher than inflation rates).

bons
bons
October 14, 2022 9:48 am

Karmov, yes impressive. Karmen, insane.
Folk may remember that bizarre beast the Karmen Huskie with its intermeshing twin rotors. It was used for many years as an airfield rescue helicopter.
I wasted many hours staring at that thing trying to understand how it could possibly work.
I read a comment from a Karmen pilot who claimed that the thing proved that God does indeed exist.
Apparently it was incredibly stable, but you needed fervent belief to fly it.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2022 9:49 am

SE QLD’s dams are so full the government is effectively giving residents two weeks supply of water for free and encouraging them to make good use of it cleaning driveways, roofs, gutters, etc.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 14, 2022 9:49 am

Why didn’t I get the Jab jab booster?………………………………………

The vaccine effectiveness numbers are quite disturbing particularly when reviewing the BA.2 vaccine effectiveness numbers 3 months or more after the 3rd dose with a 5% effectiveness rate in preventing emergency department admissions. The vaccine doesn’t work at this point.

The authors conclude that two doses of BNT162b2 provided only partial protection against BA.1-related and BA.2-related hospital and emergency department admission, highlighting the importance of the third dose due to a combination of product durability issues and a mutating RNA virus. Although three doses initially led to decent protection (?70%) against hospitalization, this performance degraded rapidly leading to a horrendous 5% performance at only three months or more involving emergency department admission

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/pfizer-mrna-vaccine-effectiveness-declines-to-5-preventing-emergency-dept.-admission-3-months-post-third-booster-6f71cb5c

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2022 9:50 am

Bandt, Thorpe demand $161m in the budget for Indigenous Truth, Treaty
James Massola
By James Massola
October 14, 2022 — 12.00am

Greens leader Adam Bandt and senator Lidia Thorpe have united to call on Labor to spend $161 million in this month’s budget on a national truth and justice commission and to promote a federal treaty with Indigenous Australians.

The party wants the truth and justice commission, which would have the powers of a standing royal commission to investigate and reveal historic and ongoing human rights abuses and wrongdoing and make recommendations on how to heal from them, to receive $32 million annually for at least four years.

It is also asking for a treaty commission that would promote and raise awareness about the need for a treaty or treaties with First Nations people, which the Parliamentary Budget Office estimates would cost just over $8 million a year.

The funding call comes after Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney predicted a growing amount of misinformation during the debate over an Indigenous Voice to parliament, warning “our opponents will make more false claims … as we get closer to the referendum”.

In 2017, the Uluru Statement from the Heart – a document written and endorsed by hundreds of Indigenous leaders – called for the creation of a Voice to parliament, followed by a Makarrata commission to supervise truth-telling about Indigenous history and “agreement-making” or Treaty.

The Greens’ policy is for the federal government to pursue Truth, Treaty and Voice simultaneously, while the Albanese government first wants to hold the Voice referendum, slated for 2023-24.

Despite the Greens supporting it, Thorpe has hedged on support for the Voice, recently describing it as a “waste of money”. Earlier this week, she was forced to clarify she would not campaign for a “no” vote in the referendum.

The Greens’ deputy Senate leader, who is a Djab Wurrung, Gunnai and Gunditjmara woman, said on Thursday it was time to get on with the work of Truth and Treaty, as well as Voice.

“First Nations people have been fighting for treaties for decades. It’s what our elders have marched for, it’s been on banners at protests. It’s what we were promised by Bob Hawke’s Labor government in the 80s and it’s still unfinished business for me today,” she said.

Give money, whitefella, give more money.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 9:53 am

Are you saying people with heaps of credentials and letters after their names are essentially f*cking useless?

to paraphrase Friedman: ‘Always and everywhere…’

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 9:54 am

For the total population, the vaccine actually protects only 0.84 percent of the population, which is the real absolute protection rate.

Ok, scratch ‘effective’, but it was ‘safe’ right ? …right…??

Tom
Tom
October 14, 2022 9:55 am

The Oz reporting that Lisa Wilkinson dropped as a witness from the Lehrmenn rope trial.

You mean the ambulance chasers trying to make a name for themselves fitting up a bloke for a rape that never happened don’t want to call a media trollop who had to go and hide in NYC to discourage prosectors from charging her with contempt of court for her outrageous statements about the same case?

Hint: journalist/activist and town drunk Samantha Maiden has also been removed from the witness list.

It looks to me that the prosecution is now playing defence to stop the judge throwing the case out.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2022 9:55 am

“Although three doses initially led to decent protection (?70%) against hospitalization”
So it did work, just not as well or for as long as people would like?

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 9:56 am

The Great Reset: Klaus Schwab’s WEF has plans to implement a ‘Carbon Allowance’ that will restrict what you do, buy and eat

Hmmm …remind me … who was it here who said that COVID was merely a target of opportunity, and the klimate krisis was the real objective?

bespoke
bespoke
October 14, 2022 9:58 am

who was it here who said that COVID was merely a target of opportunity, and the klimate krisis was the real objective?

To many to list.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2022 9:59 am

And, Winston, where did the Economist get their Soviet production data from?
The point was that any data was sourced from the No 5 Revolutionary Statistics Factory in Omsk, and was inevitably bullshit.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2022 10:00 am

Dot – That’s exactly what Elizabeth didn’t do. She dealt with something like fifteen different PMs in her time, ranging from complete nutters to Churchill and Thatcher. Played a straight bat for seventy years.

If all monarchs were clones, the office would have no value.

We’d still be ruled by the villainous Richard II.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2022 10:00 am

So it did work, just not as well or for as long as people would like?

Not as well or for as long as people were told, rather.

Winston Smith
October 14, 2022 10:00 am

ZK2A:

Greens leader Adam Bandt and senator Lidia Thorpe have united to call on Labor to spend $161 million in this month’s budget on a national truth and justice commission and to promote a federal treaty with Indigenous Australians.

These demands will never stop until the nation is broke.
I wonder where these petty gougers see themselves in 10 years time?

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2022 10:01 am

Contact in Italy, in the south, reports only allowed to do one load of washing a week, cook for one hour a day, electricity on one hour in the morning and one in the evening.
That might be just a local area thing.
Still.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2022 10:01 am

“felt unsafe”?

Intimidation and incitement are serious matters but you should not be held accountable for something you didn’t do.

It’s also such a BS hand wave these days

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 10:03 am

More courtroom guidance for Duk. “You have no standing, sir!
I give you six days to repent.

Time already served then!! Off to the bar…

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2022 10:04 am

“felt unsafe”?

It’s all about the feelz.

Winston Smith
October 14, 2022 10:05 am

Sancho Panzer:

And, Winston, where did the Economist get their Soviet production data from?
The point was that any data was sourced from the No 5 Revolutionary Statistics Factory in Omsk, and was inevitably bullshit.

From the CIA Yearbook.
Where else?
I thought I’d pointed out the CIA did one every year – from at least the 70’s as far as I recall.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2022 10:07 am

The funding call comes after Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney predicted a growing amount of misinformation during the debate over an Indigenous Voice to parliament, warning “our opponents will make more false claims … as we get closer to the referendum”.

Says the woman who told NSW parliament that until 1967 aborigines were classified as fauna.

cohenite
October 14, 2022 10:08 am

Well, the Jan 6 witch hunt has subpoenaed Trump. The skank cheney read out the demands. The mid terms are stuffed.

Leon L.
Leon L.
October 14, 2022 10:08 am

rosie says:
October 14, 2022 at 9:55 am
“Although three doses initially led to decent protection (?70%) against hospitalization”
So it did work, just not as well or for as long as people would like?

Nope.
The absolute risk reduction in the original vaccine trial was 0.84%.
Out of every 117 people “vaccinated” just ONE infection prevented.
One infection, not hospitalisation or death.
And at 3 months, all this is wishful thinking with negative vaccine efficacy.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 14, 2022 10:08 am

Although three doses initially led to decent protection (?70%) against hospitalization

What percentage of the whole population ever ended up in hospital? Also were the groups comparable?
Always check relative vs absolute risk. Same with statins, which also have bad side effects in many cases which are denied by the medical profession. We have a good friend who was a pharmacist who had many clients complain.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 14, 2022 10:10 am

From the CIA Yearbook.
Where else?
I thought I’d pointed out the CIA did one every year – from at least the 70’s as far as I recall.

About what I thought. Yes they did.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2022 10:11 am

I watched that Snodgrass video yesterday thankyou.
From what I understand la niña means we are more likely to get all the rain, and others miss out, Italy’s hydro electricity is in trouble, but it’s not climate change as one site I read claimed.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 14, 2022 10:11 am

Waste of bandwidth.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 14, 2022 10:11 am

flyingduk:
that video is really depressing.
A blank wall of officialese supported by state bully boy tactics and both are impervious to logic.
You are low hanging fruit to them – a combination of firearms licence holder and repetitive questioner of a politician.
Putting two and two together, they easily deem you are a potential threat. No need to analyse the issue or to question why you “came to the attention of police”.
Bastards.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 14, 2022 10:12 am

Lisa Wilkinson dropped.

Too old
Too slow

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2022 10:13 am

Says the woman who told NSW parliament that until 1967 aborigines were classified as fauna.

For which she was never held to account. Also, from memory, wasn’t she telling the old tale about poisoned waterholes, but I have no doubt that a “truth telling commission” will regard both tales as Holy Writ.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2022 10:14 am

Someone posted something from trial site which appears to contradict zero hedge and an earlier claim that vaccines did nothing at all.
Not the slightest bit interested in some tenuous link to ‘statins’, whatever they may be.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2022 10:19 am

From the CIA Yearbook.

Oh, Jesus wept.
All … ALL … Soviet era data (even CIA guesses*) was proven to be bullshit after the wall came down.
You claimed to have developed a theory about a correlation between beef prices** and grain production, based on “Soviet watching”.
But if the hypothesis was founded on undeniably dodgy data, it is worth zero.
….
* Would the Intel community have inflated the Soviet data to over-state the threat, and chisel more funding out of Congress? Why, yes they would.
** Explain “prices” in Soviet terms and how they might be set.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 14, 2022 10:20 am

rosie says:
October 14, 2022 at 9:55 am

“Although three doses initially led to decent protection (?70%) against hospitalization”
So it did work, just not as well or for as long as people would like?

I will refrain from personal abuse, but only because I don’t like the abuse on this blog.
Rosie if you think the risks associated with this jab are worth 90 days protection from hospitalization I have a bridge for sale.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 10:21 am

Same with statins, which also have bad side effects in many cases which are denied by the medical profession. We have a good friend who was a pharmacist who had many clients complain.

Went down that rabbit hole myself many years ago after being badgered by GP into taking a statin. Felt like shit, got gaslit, changed to another one, still felt like shit. GP denied it was a problem. I did my own research and stopped worrying about cholesterol.

After that, I told a number of patients with statin side effects: the cholesterol theory is BS, and why would you take a ‘medicine’ that makes you sick?

I wonder why AHPRA never chased me for that heresy?

Winston Smith
October 14, 2022 10:21 am

Cohenite:

Well, the Jan 6 witch hunt has subpoenaed Trump. The skank cheney read out the demands. The mid terms are stuffed.

Why would that mean the mid terms are stuffed? I’d have thought it would have enabled President Trump to make a case for himself?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 14, 2022 10:24 am

We’d still be ruled by the villainous Richard II.

He was a good dude. Smashed the Peasants’ Revolt in 1381. Then:

In 1397, he took his revenge on the Appellants, many of whom were executed or exiled. The next two years have been described by historians as Richard’s “tyranny”. In 1399, after John of Gaunt died, the king disinherited Gaunt’s son, Henry Bolingbroke, who had previously been exiled.

Henry invaded England in June 1399 with a small force that quickly grew in numbers. Meeting little resistance, he deposed Richard and had himself crowned king. Richard is thought to have been starved to death in captivity

TyraNny!

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2022 10:28 am

Well, obviously, I do think the risks associated with the jab are worth it if you are in the at risk category for covid.
Apparently I’m not the only one.

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2022 10:29 am

Winston Smithsays:
October 14, 2022 at 10:00 am
ZK2A:
These demands will never stop until the nation is broke.

Nahhh bro. The leftard war against what plants need to grow is what’s gonna send us broke.

JC
JC
October 14, 2022 10:30 am

Of course, Hallward was a famous Sovietologist too.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2022 10:31 am

I’d have thought it would have enabled President Trump to make a case for himself?

The MSM will be wall to wall TRUMP IS A CRIMINAL. Or something like that.

Lies told over and over. Even Fox will get in on the act since their bosses hate Trump.

As for the election, some limp moves have been made to reduce ballot stuffing, but the software is all still in place, with agencies apparently supporting them. “Close enough to steal” is suffering from inflation like everything else.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2022 10:31 am
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 14, 2022 10:33 am

So Rabz you didn’t really close your account.

Figures
Figures
October 14, 2022 10:35 am

Although three doses initially led to decent protection (?70%) against hospitalization

The only valid epidemiological data is incidental data. Every piece of medical data in history that has been collected for a specific purpose is worthless (for that purpose). That is because of the fundamentally circular nature of medical statistics.

Whatever doctors believe will always manifest in data irrespective of whether doctors are correct.

If you get sick, get treated, and die, that’s because you didn’t get enough of the treatment and you didn’t get it early enough. So the next patient with the same symptoms has to have double the dose. Soon, 100 per cent of people with your symptoms ends up dead. So the disease has a 100 per cent fatality rate.

That is the case with rabies. If you’re suspected of having it, then you will be put in a coma and plied with copious drugs until you die (the Milwaukee protocol). Doctors will of course then blame the virus for your death. Your one hope is if you are vaccinated because, then, doctors probably won’t use the Milwaukee protocol on you and so your odds of surviving are greatly increased (the vaccine is dangerous, but not as dangerous as the MP).

Hence, the vaccine works!

In the “Black Death” tens of millions of people were murdered by doctors through arsenic drinking, glass eating, bleeding, sepsis (rubbing feces into wounds) and other insane practices.

Every single last one of these deaths were blamed on rats and fleas. As though rats and fleas existed in the 14th century but not at any other time.

Every piece of data you ever encounter on medicine is worthless unless it was collected for a completely different purpose.

That’s why you can’t use polio diagnoses to assess whether the polio vaccine worked – doctors simply refuse to dx polio in the vaccinated. You can, however, use paralysis rates as they are collected for a completely different use.

When you use the latter, it is patently clear the polio vaccine is an abject failure. Not as dangerous as the covid vaccine sure but every bit as useless.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2022 10:40 am

Figuressays:

October 14, 2022 at 10:35 am

The only valid …

Sure.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2022 10:41 am

The generation that will lead us in 30 years?

HSC students are now so crippled by anxiety about their performance during exams that an extraordinary one in 10 claim the right to have a rest every 30 minutes.

NSW Education Standards Authority data reveals 6732 students claimed special dispensation for either having an “anxiety disorder or concentration issues” or experiencing “pain” or simply having difficulty completing an entire exam.

That figure has surged by 51 per cent in just three years, going from 4433 to 6732 students last year.

Daily Tele

Mater
October 14, 2022 10:44 am

“Although three doses initially led to decent protection (?70%) against hospitalization”
So it did work, just not as well or for as long as people would like?

Even if true (a big if), Ventolin reduces symptoms and keeps people out of hospital for short durations, but we don’t call it a vaccine.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2022 10:45 am

The generation that will lead us in 30 years?

Some rooster over on the Oz wants the voting age lowered to 16. Most comments support raising it to 21. Good idea, says I, and, restrict the franchise to those who pay tax and own property!

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2022 10:46 am

Top Endersays:
October 14, 2022 at 10:41 am
The generation that will lead us in 30 years?

Yes, the internet age is creating a lot of anxious youngsters. The human, built for hunter gathering, is now cooped up inside all day on some sort of screen. Now we are starting to see the consequences.

bespoke
bespoke
October 14, 2022 10:48 am

I, and, restrict the franchise to those who pay tax and own property

As a property owner and taxpayer I say no.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2022 10:49 am

I really really hope it works.

SpaceX stacks Starship and Super Heavy on launch pad ahead of orbital test flight (13 Oct, via Instapundit)

Ship 24 and Booster 7 are slated to launch on the first-ever Starship orbital flight, which could take place as early as next month.

Unfortunately Murphy just loves first-time rocket launches.

Elon Musk’s UK rival crashes rocket in sea after Iceland test fails spectacularly (13 Oct)

SpaceX CEO Elon Musk’s UK-based rival suffered a major blow after its rocket came crashing down into the Norwegian Sea following a failed test launch in Iceland. Skyrora’s Skylark L rocket reportedly malfunctioned after blasting off from its launch site, splashing into the waters 500 yards off the Icelandic coast.

Musk really needs a success since the alphabet agencies are going for him. That’s the problem with saying stuff they dislike.

Winston Smith
October 14, 2022 10:49 am

Curious, the ME and Europe are at Defcon 2.
DEFCON 2, or Fast Pace, is a red colored condition level similar to a ‘red alert’ warning level status. Defcon 2 means we are at the next step to war or a nuclear threat. During this alert level the United States Armed Forces are ready and prepared to ship out in 6 hours time or less, hence the name “Fast Pace”.

Defcon 2, or Fast Pace is the second highest condition level in the warning system, with only alert level 1 being higher. The alert status may be changed to this level after intelligence findings indicate a risk for an impending attack, such as the case in the Cuban missile crisis in 1962 when the alert status was changed to Fast Pace for the Strategic Air Command.
Defcon 2, or Fast Pace has been reached only once for the SAC, or strategic air command during the cold war Cuban missile crisis in October 26, 1962 after soviet missile pads were found in Cuba, but changed to alert level 3 after a short time. Taken from Defcon Level Warning System: https://www.defconlevel.com/levels/defcon-2.php

What the hell is going on?

Winston Smith
October 14, 2022 10:51 am

Quote function didn’t work. All of first and second are quotes – before I get accused of plagiarism.

cohenite
October 14, 2022 10:52 am

Why would that mean the mid terms are stuffed? I’d have thought it would have enabled President Trump to make a case for himself?

There will be a criminal referral to the DOJ. Trump will be arrested. They have to do this. As for Trump making a case for himself; he’s done that; there’s video evidence of him telling the people to go home peacefully. He offered the National Guard to pelosi and was refused. There’s miles of video tape of official connivance of guiding the protestors in and so on. The evidence is there. Trump appearing before the committee will make it easier to arrest him.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2022 10:52 am

Not quite Dover.
I am saying you cannot formulate a hypothesis about the relationship between beef prices and grain production in a market economy in 2022 using “observations” of pre-1990 Soviet data, no matter what the source.

Zatara
Zatara
October 14, 2022 10:57 am

the Jan 6 witch hunt has subpoenaed Trump.

That subpoena and $3 will get them a medium coffee at most maccas.

It’s called separation of powers for a reason and that’s exactly what Democrat President Harry Truman told Congress when they tried to do it to him back in 1953.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2022 10:58 am

Even if true (a big if), Ventolin reduces symptoms and keeps people out of hospital for short durations, but we don’t call it a vaccine.

I tend to agree with this.
The covid vaccines didn’t meet the level of performance that we have grown to associate with the word “vaccine”.
This doesn’t mean I think they were useless, just the benefits were oversold.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2022 10:58 am

HSC students are now so crippled by anxiety about their performance during exams that an extraordinary one in 10 claim the right to have a rest every 30 minutes.

“Rest” in this case meaning “check cheat notes”?

areff
areff
October 14, 2022 11:00 am

restrict the franchise to those who pay tax and own property!

and to post-menopausal women.

Reminder: first thing the US did after women got the vote was bring in Prohibition.

That worked well.

Indolent
Indolent
October 14, 2022 11:01 am
JC
JC
October 14, 2022 11:03 am

Dover

Where was this year book made available?

Was it in state libraries or given to government institutions only?

Accessing information was very difficult prior to what we have now.

So someone would have to have gone to say a state library off working hours in the late 70s and 80s to check what was going on with Soviet meat production and the harvest season and base that on sketchy estimates.

It’s possible although highly unlikely.

Let’s keep in mind that we were told first the information was gleaned from the CIA website which wasn’t around then.

Also, the Yearbook would not have carried enough detail to make any assumption of what he was suggesting . In fact it’s close to impossible.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2022 11:04 am

Via OldOzzie

He’s telling the right truth. You have done nothing. Tulsi Gabbard has shown guts where you’ve shown cowardice. I believed in you and you became the very same thing you sought to fight against. That’s what you’ve become. You are the establishment

A description of AOC that matches our very own lackey of the fascist establishment, m0nty-fa.

Winston Smith
October 14, 2022 11:05 am

Here’s what I initially said in response to an Old Ozzie Post:
Old Ozzie:

The “Producer Price Index” (PPI) is essentially the tracking of wholesale prices at three stages: Origination (commodity), Intermediate (processing), and then Final (to wholesale). Today, the Bureau of Labor and Statistics (BLS) released September price data [Available Here] showing another 8.5% increase year-over-year in Final Demand products at the wholesale level. However, that’s not the bad news in this data.

An interesting statistic is Beef and Veal: -4.6%
Going back to my old hobby of Soviet production watching, this sort of drop in price and the appearance of fresh meat in the markets above normal volumes meant the grain crops were failing and the collectives were dumping cattle to cut back on grain use.
I wonder if that example holds true today?

This is what started it all off. JC was so quick to piss on me that it has now consumed a damned large part of the Open Thread.
A simple question in farming economics has been blown out of all proportion.
And yes DB it belongs in the Duelling Thread.

JC
JC
October 14, 2022 11:05 am

Cronkite

If they arrest Trump why would that have an impact on the mid terms?

Zipster
Zipster
October 14, 2022 11:06 am

monty curse in full effect:

soy boy has earned the rakemeister title many times over

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2022 11:10 am

From the Oz…

“Confronting alleged rape with doctors ‘really big deal’
Remy Varga

Ms Higgins has conceded she told AFP officers she had gone to see a doctor when she hadn’t, telling the court she “wasn’t perfect”.

An emotional Ms Higgins told jurors she made appointments with doctors with the intention of going but couldn’t go because she was depressed and not coping with her alleged rape.

“Going and confronting it [alleged rape] with a health professional was a really big f—ing deal for me,” she said.

Zipster
Zipster
October 14, 2022 11:11 am

This doesn’t mean I think they were useless, just the benefits were oversold.

and the risks were ignored

I am beginning to think the choice to unleash this technology was so that the elites could mass genetically edit populations to enforce certainly policies

Winston Smith
October 14, 2022 11:12 am

Cohenite:

There will be a criminal referral to the DOJ. Trump will be arrested.

They have to know this will have dire consequences, don’t they?

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2022 11:13 am

Good news!

DC CANCELS bisexual superman: Publisher pulls series about Kal-El’s son coming out and fighting climate change deniers after 18 issues as sales plummeted to just 34,000 last month

Daily Mail

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2022 11:13 am

JC

The CIA website wasn’t available before the World Wide Web and also no one would have accessed CIA data before the website came into existence.

The CIA used to publish an unclassified world data compendium in the 1980s. I expect that the historical data would have been loaded onto the unclassified CIA website when it was set up.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2022 11:14 am

Ms Higgins has conceded she told AFP officers she had gone to see a doctor when she hadn’t, telling the court she “wasn’t perfect”.

Hmm, lying to the AFP isn’t exactly looked highly upon.
Good thing she’s a special magic person, or she’d be in some trouble.

Zatara
Zatara
October 14, 2022 11:16 am

They aren’t going to arrest Trump. Particularly not before the mid-terms.

One thing the Left doesn’t do often enough is commit one-stroke political suicide.

Arresting Trump would cause a bloodbath at the polls that the Ds might never recover from. Ever.

Roger
Roger
October 14, 2022 11:16 am

Ms Higgins has conceded she told AFP officers she had gone to see a doctor when she hadn’t, telling the court she “wasn’t perfect”.

Nobody expects you to be perfect, Ms. Higgins, just truthful.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 14, 2022 11:17 am

duncanm says:
October 13, 2022 at 9:15 pm

funny — I bumped into this bloke in what will probably be his next episode up on the PDR; Bramwell I think it was.

Seemed like a bit of a grumpy bugger.

Episode 7 is out now and he did go through Bramwell Junction. He still hasn’t got to the tip of the cape, this is taking forever.

Every Man for Himself – Milk Run Eps 7.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2022 11:21 am

Regardless of the outcome of this trial, Brittany Higgins and her partner illegally taped private telephone calls. My question is, will she and her partner face charges or will they, like Cane Toad Wilkinson, get a free pass?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2022 11:21 am

14m ago
Defence suggests Higgins’ bruise a ‘fabrication’
Remy Varga
REMY VARGA

Mr Whybrow has accused Ms Higgins of “fabricating” a photo of a bruise that she alleges was sustained when she was raped by Mr Lehrmann.

Mr Whybrow said there was no reference to the photo in texts or emails in a cellular extraction of three of Ms Higgins’ phones.

He said there was no reference to the photo before January 2021.

Ms Higgins said she sent the photo to journalists Samantha Maiden and Lisa Wilkinson but said before making a complaint to police “why would I send it around?”

When Mr Whybrow suggested to her the bruise was a “fabrication”, Ms Higgins gave a hollow laugh and replied, “Yeah sure. I reject you completely”.

Zatara
Zatara
October 14, 2022 11:21 am

The CIA used to publish an unclassified world data compendium in the 1980s.

True. It was available in most public and many school libraries in the US from 1971 on. The first classified edition of Factbook was published in August 1962, and the first unclassified version in June 1971.

“Because the unclassified Factbook is in the public domain, people are free under United States law to redistribute it or parts of it in any way that they like, without permission of the CIA.”

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 14, 2022 11:22 am

Go on. Arrest him and see what happens. You must be feeling lucky punk.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 11:22 am

Just closed my Paypal account too, with the following comment:

Your history of ‘debanking’ prominent people with conservative views has hurt your brand, and now your ‘mistake’ in threatening to unilaterally fine users thousands of $ was the last straw. You didnt add that to your terms in error, its how paypal now ‘thinks’. I dont trust you any more.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 14, 2022 11:23 am

An emotional Ms Higgins told jurors she made appointments with doctors with the intention of going but couldn’t go because she was depressed and not coping with her alleged rape.

“Going and confronting it [alleged rape] with a health professional was a really big f—ing deal for me,” she said.

Surely it can be confirmed that appointments were made? If contemporaneous evidence for these appointments (sourced from the clinics, not from Higgins) is provided, that would be fairly persuasive evidence. If such evidence existed, one would think we’d already know about it.

If such evidence hasn’t been able to be gathered, she’s probably lying. Her explanation in isolation is not implausible, but it sits alongside all of her other behaviour immediately after the alleged rape which doesn’t at all bespeak a violated female. It is far more indicative of someone trying to hide something. And then there’s her cashing in on the whole affair. This trial screams reasonable doubt.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2022 11:23 am

Sancho Panzersays:
October 14, 2022 at 9:59 am
And, Winston, where did the Economist get their Soviet production data from?
The point was that any data was sourced from the No 5 Revolutionary Statistics Factory in Omsk, and was inevitably bullshit.

Paul Dibb, who had intelligence connections, wrote a book in the late 1980s with a title like “Soviet Union, the Incomplete Superpower”, all about the dodginess of Soviet economic statistics. The general data was “out there”, just a matter of knowing where to look.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2022 11:23 am

areff at 11:00 – please report to the manager

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2022 11:25 am

Winston Smithsays:
October 14, 2022 at 10:05 am
Sancho Panzer:

And, Winston, where did the Economist get their Soviet production data from?
The point was that any data was sourced from the No 5 Revolutionary Statistics Factory in Omsk, and was inevitably bullshit.

From the CIA Yearbook.
Where else?
I thought I’d pointed out the CIA did one every year – from at least the 70’s as far as I recall.

Catching up, didn’t see this earlier.

Morsie
Morsie
October 14, 2022 11:25 am

Calling Trimp might prove to be a mistake.
Imagine trying to shut him up.He will use the forum to his advantage.
If they don’t let him answer even better.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 11:26 am

HSC students are now so crippled by anxiety about their performance during exams that an extraordinary one in 10 claim the right to have a rest every 30 minutes.
NSW Education Standards Authority data reveals 6732 students claimed special dispensation for either having an “anxiety disorder or concentration issues” or experiencing “pain” or simply having difficulty completing an entire exam.

All must have prizes….

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2022 11:27 am

“If such evidence hasn’t been able to be gathered, she’s probably lying. Her explanation in isolation is not implausible, but it sits alongside all of her other behaviour immediately after the alleged rape which doesn’t at all bespeak a violated female. It is far more indicative of someone trying to hide something. And then there’s her cashing in on the whole affair. This trial screams reasonable doubt.”

Yep.

bespoke
bespoke
October 14, 2022 11:27 am

DC CANCELS bisexual superman: Publisher pulls series about Kal-El’s son coming out and fighting climate change deniers after 18 issues as sales plummeted to just 34,000 last month

Consumer power is always preferable the political solutions.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 11:28 am

The covid vaccines didn’t meet the level of performance that we have grown to associate with the word “vaccine”.

The other name for vaccines was ‘immunisations’ (because they conferred immunity!) … the mis application of the word ‘vaccine’ to the various COVID ‘jabs’ is nothing more than medical stolen valour.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 14, 2022 11:29 am

My question is, will she and her partner face charges or will they, like Cane Toad Wilkinson, get a free pass?

Notwithstanding what I said above, I reckon that not only will she get a free pass, but the accused will be found guilty. Considering the politicisation of this matter, is a Canberra jury really going to let this guy walk? And a Canberra judge is going to throw the book at him – again, in consideration of the political climate.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2022 11:30 am

Market economics. Vote with your dollars and your feet.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 11:30 am

Hmm, lying to the AFP isn’t exactly looked highly upon.

OTOH, lying *by* the AFP is now apparently standard practice.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2022 11:34 am

A lot of the language used during Covid was “loose” to give its most favourable interpretation.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2022 11:35 am

CIA World Factbook – a great resource.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 14, 2022 11:35 am

Just sailing out of San Diego now. Captain announces please wear masks indoors ‘out of an abundance of caution’. Not many comply. We don’t.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 11:36 am

Regardless of the outcome of this trial, Brittany Higgins and her partner illegally taped private telephone calls. My question is, will she and her partner face charges or will they, like Cane Toad Wilkinson, get a free pass?

Given the ubiquity of surveillance now undertaken by the state, I have long since regarded the risks of me doing the same to well outweigh the benefits.

bons
bons
October 14, 2022 11:36 am

The open contempt that Missy directs towards the Defence Counsel is shocking for normal and reasonable people but is typical of the filthy political culture that she revels in.
Hopefully, the jury will be equally disgusted.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2022 11:37 am

Imagine trying to shut him up.He will use the forum to his advantage.

They’ll turn his microphone off. Technical troubles, so sad.

Of course if he refuses the FBI will send a SWAT team in at 5 am (with mysteriously arriving abundant CNN cameras from every angle) and will arrest and shackle him.

The US is not a free country, the elite class though is striving to avoid it becoming free.

Btw Kurt Schlichter’s 7th novel in the series came out yesterday.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 14, 2022 11:39 am

I hope I’m wrong. I want justice for victims as much as anyone. If he did it, he needs to do serious time. However, I suspect he’s going to do serious time regardless (unless some extraordinary evidence emerges pointing towards innocence). That’s not justice and it makes him the victim.

Hell, if he didn’t do it, he already is the victim. Even if the jury finds him not guilty, he’ll come out of this trial with nothing and very limited future prospects. And probably broken.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2022 11:39 am

“Just sailing out of San Diego now. Captain announces please wear masks indoors ‘out of an abundance of caution’. Not many comply. We don’t.”

Enjoy Lizzie.

Winston Smith
October 14, 2022 11:41 am

Morsie:

Calling Trump might prove to be a mistake.
Imagine trying to shut him up.He will use the forum to his advantage.
If they don’t let him answer even better.

I doubt the Democrats have even thought of where this is going. They must think they have the Generals in their pockets, but I’m not sure even General Millie will go along with this.

Rabz
October 14, 2022 11:42 am

They’ll turn his microphone off.

Fatty Trump wouldn’t need a mike in an indoor hearing anyway. He’ll just start shouting.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2022 11:50 am

cohenitesays:
October 14, 2022 at 10:08 am
Well, the Jan 6 witch hunt has subpoenaed Trump. The skank cheney read out the demands. The mid terms are stuffed.

Trump Exposes House J6 Committee as a ‘BUST’ in Response to Final Hearing

The House Democrats and RINOs behind the theatrical January 6 kangaroo court on Thursday put on their final and most dramatic act before the upcoming November midterms, concluding the hearing with a unanimous resolution to subpoena former President Donald Trump, as if that’s the magic ticket to saving Democratic candidates across the country who are already in line for the slaughter.

Regardless, the hearing sparked a near-immediate response from the former president, who, in a series of three Truth Social posts, responded to the main topics of today’s hearing, excoriating them in the process.

Thursday’s House J6 Committee hearing marked the ninth such event since the entire charade began earlier this year.

Trump first responded to the sham committee’s airing of never-before-seen footage of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and then-Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.y.) huddling in the basement of the Capitol building during the Jan. 6 protests. The committee highlighted several scenes in which Pelosi can be seen consulting with various officials regarding a military and police response to the protests.

It’s thought by some that the House committee aired the footage to sort of vindicate the Democratic speaker, who many still believe is responsible for the chaos that occurred that day due to a lack of proper response before and during the unfolding dangerous event,

as Trump noted in his post.

This footage was shot by Alexandra Pelosi, the Speaker’s documentary filmmaker daughter, who was present to capture her mother during the historic day, per person familiar w the footage…
https://washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/13/jan-6-committee-hearings-live-updates/

“Why didn’t Crazy Nancy Pelosi call out the ‘troops’ before January 6th, which I strongly recommended that she do. It was her responsibility, but she ‘didn’t like the look.’ Crazy Nancy failed the American People!” Trump wrote.

In his second post, Trump took another jab at the “Unselect” committee for completely ignoring the possibility that voter fraud could have taken place before, during, and after the 2020 election.

“The Unselect Committee knowingly failed to examine the massive voter fraud which took place during the 2020 Presidential Election – The reason for what took place on January 6th,” Trump wrote.

The former president, in his third post, asked a question echoed by several pundits in the wake of today’s hearing, which was technically reclassified as a “business meeting.” Why did the committee wait until its final hearing to call Trump forward as a witness? That’s pretty much the opposite of the entire point of an investigation.

“Why didn’t the Unselect Committee ask me to testify months ago? Why did they wait until the very end, the final moments of their last meeting? Because the Committee is a total “BUST” that has only served to further divide our Country which, by the way, is doing very badly – A laughing stock all over the World?” the former president wrote.

Any honest observer can deduce that the House J6 committee used the subpoena vote as a political weapon to muddy Trump’s name ahead of the midterm elections, and especially ahead of the 2024 presidential election.

Trump will likely let out a hearty laugh when he tears their subpoena in half and tosses it in the wastebasket, as the J6 committee is widely predicted to be disbanded after Republicans take majority control of the lower chamber. No matter what they try in the meantime, Trump will cite executive privilege or, worst case, take the Fifth to avoid testimony, and that will spark legal battles that will outlast the life of the committee itself, proving this is nothing less than a massive waste of taxpayer time and money.

CNN, MSNBC, and a handful of establishment media outlets will run with the story for a day or two, but at the end of the day, a majority of Americans are far more concerned with President Joe Biden’s record-high grocery and gas prices than they are with something that happened nearly two years ago.

I’d tell the J6 committee, “nice try,” but it really wasn’t.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 14, 2022 11:53 am

Surely it can be confirmed that appointments were made? If contemporaneous evidence for these appointments (sourced from the clinics, not from Higgins) is provided, that would be fairly persuasive evidence.

Broken record stuff, but this should have been sorted out as part of the prosecution brief as corroborative evidence. It is simple stuff. It is not complex.

When you (allegedly) investigate a claim of this nature, and in circumstances of this type where you have one primary witness – i.e., the victim – and no forensic evidence, and any evidence from other witnesses potentially clouded by intoxication, you need to provide as much certainty as you can to the victim’s claims.

If the victim says she made doctors’ appointments, it is very easy to corroborate this part of her story at least by checking with the clinics. You (apparently) get around the privacy screeching from fat nosy receptionists by executing search warrants for records correlating to only her, and only for the dates she claims.

If it’s not in the brief it’s either incompetent investigative work, in which case it should never have gone to trial, or it’s a bullshit story.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 14, 2022 11:54 am

Party time for sailout, cocktails for all. Hairy holding mine while I tell you guys this major US naval base has probably 20 times the Australian Navy fitepower here. Three massive aircraft carriers in view as we sail past. No masks at all out here on deck and few indeed inside. People seem very over it. Two big naval helicopters just flew over especially for us. Fun times.

Johnny Rotten
October 14, 2022 11:55 am

A blonde suspects her boyfriend of cheating on her, so she goes out and buys a gun. She goes to his apartment unexpectedly and when she opens the door, she finds him in the arms of a redhead. Well, the blonde is really angry. She opens her purse to take out the gun, and as she does so, she is suddenly overcome with grief. She takes the gun and puts it to her head. The boyfriend yells “No, honey, don’t do it!” The blonde replies “Shut up, you’re next!”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2022 11:56 am

About The World Factbook

The World Factbook Archives

and

The World Factbook & Its Predecessors: Painting a Picture of Our World Since 1943

Let’s travel back in time for a moment. The year is 1943, the United States is in the throes of battle against the Axis powers, and the fate of the world is hanging in the balance. Still reeling from the intelligence failure that resulted in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in late 1941, the Roosevelt administration recognized that the country needed to undertake a more coordinated approach to intelligence gathering and synthesis. He asked his Coordinator of Information (COI) – a newly created position in the administration – General William Donovan to lead the charge as Director of the newly formed Office of Strategic Services (OSS).

Among his many charges as Director of OSS, Donovan was responsible for the collection, collation, and dissemination of basic intelligence. Basic intelligence, not to be confused with current or estimative intelligence, is the fundamental and factual information on any given topic. For reference, current intelligence refers to those reports on new developments and estimative intelligence is a judgement on probable outcomes. If we think of intelligence as a pyramid, basic intelligence would be at the bottom, building the foundation of the other forms of intelligence.

Finding a Solution

And so, in 1943, recognizing the essential role of strong basic intelligence, General Donovan partnered with General George Strong of Army Intelligence and Admiral H.C. Train of Naval Intelligence to launch the Joint Army Navy Intelligence Studies (JANIS). JANIS was the country’s first interdepartmental basic intelligence program and represented an authoritative and coordinated appraisal of strategic basic intelligence. It became an essential tool for commanders and warfighters alike, providing timely and accurate reference material that allowed for educated planning and execution of mission priorities. JANIS proved its worth through the duration of the war, publishing 34 studies between April of 1943 and July of 1947.

The need for more comprehensive basic intelligence in the postwar world was well expressed in 1946 by George S. Pettee, a noted author on national security. He wrote in The Future of American Secret Intelligence that world leadership in peace requires even more elaborate intelligence than in war. He says that “the conduct of peace involves all countries, all human activities – not just the enemy and his war production.”

CIA Takes Over

With the signing of the National Security Act of 1947 on July 26, CIA was officially born. Just a few months later, on October 1, CIA assumed all responsibility for the JANIS basic intelligence program. Shortly thereafter, JANIS was renamed the National Intelligence Survey (NIS), but continued along the same tradition, providing policymakers and military leaders with up-to-date data, maps, and other reference materials.

In 1954, the need for an authoritative source of basic intelligence was reaffirmed by the Hoover Commission’s Clark Committee, which was charged to study the structure and administration of CIA. In an address to Congress in 1955, the Committee reported: “The National Intelligence Survey is an invaluable publication which provides the essential elements of basic intelligence on all areas of the world. There will always be a continuing requirement for keeping the Survey up-to-date.”

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It has been a resource used by presidents, by warfighters, and by the world’s greatest scholars.

Johnny Rotten
October 14, 2022 11:56 am

I’m writing a book. I’ve got the page numbers done.

– Steven Wright

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2022 11:56 am

Speaking of the world-beatingly efficient AFP:

Australian Federal Police operations hacked (Sky News, 14 Oct)

Over five terabytes of data were hacked in August – including the details of 35 Australian Federal Police operations, some ongoing.

Don’t expect any sympathy.

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2022 11:56 am

There was never any scientific basis to discriminate against the clot shot hold outs. Class action in coming.

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2022 11:58 am

JUST IN – Turkey adopts a law that allows imprisonment of social network users and journalists for spreading “disinformation” ahead of elections.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1580709507893645312

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 14, 2022 12:00 pm

I disagree with Zulu:

restrict the franchise to those who pay tax and own property!

I do not know why you would prevent a renter from voting just because they were not in a position to buy a place somewhere permanently.
The condition should be that you are paying your way in life and are also a net payer of tax.

It gets a bit murky with private sector employees on government contracts, but as long as that was an open competition with multiple bids it would be okay too.

JC
JC
October 14, 2022 12:01 pm

It was for sale to the public since 1975.

Where, bookshops?

bespoke
bespoke
October 14, 2022 12:02 pm

restrict the franchise to those who pay tax and own property!

and to post-menopausal women.

Reminder: first thing the US did after women got the vote was bring in Prohibition.

It was the feminist movement that supported it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2022 12:07 pm

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Jorge
Jorge
October 14, 2022 12:07 pm

interest rates have to be higher than inflation rates).

What I don’t get is this: US inflation is due to shortages pushing prices up – supply side.

How does ramping interest rates solve a supply side problem ?

Rents rise because interest rates make realestate less affordable so more people rent. The rising interest rate worsens the inflation problem.

Yes, please, I’ll take that Nobel now. Make way, Bernanke.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 14, 2022 12:08 pm

HSC students are now so crippled by anxiety about their performance during exams that an extraordinary one in 10 claim the right to have a rest every 30 minutes.

Based on my observations as a school cleaner, I predicted several years ago that the school hall, normally used for masses of year 12s doing the HSC, would be reserved for those doing “special provisions” and small rooms set aside for the balance of the student cohort.

Winston Smith
October 14, 2022 12:09 pm

Bruce O’Newk:
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/crime/australian-federal-police-operations-hacked/video/6bb37e4591fc7ab63ef20a2cdf936b59
The only data that can’t be hacked is the data that isn’t collected. Otherwise the collection points are just a one stop shop for thieves – a bit like banks and cash.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2022 12:10 pm

Last-Minute Entrant ‘Head Of Cabbage’ Surges To Lead In Pennsylvania Senate Race

PHILADELPHIA, PA — Despite both candidates facing issues with voter enthusiasm, the race for the open Senate seat in Pennsylvania has narrowed in recent weeks. Polling was showing Dr. Mehmet Oz catching up to John Fetterman until a head of cabbage entered the race and exceeded both candidates in popularity.

“We’ve seen ‘dark horse’ candidates upset Senate races at the last minute, but this was something special – only these two could face an inert head of cabbage as a serious challenger just weeks before the election,” said political analyst Dan Greenfield on his daily podcast. “An upset victory of a head of cabbage would be a barrier-breaking first for vegetables being elected to the Senate. To be fair, however, this would also be the result if Fetterman won.”

The Fetterman campaign has flailed at the unexpected challenger, unable to effectively counter the stoic sobriety of the cabbage head. Fetterman’s campaign manager, Brendan McPhillips, emphasized in an interview that Fetterman would outperform the cabbage in facing down dangerous adversaries abroad. “Look, these dictatorial foreign nations will be cowed into submission when Senator Fetterman intimidates them with his requests for closed captioning. We make a motion even now that John be tapped to lead the Senate foreign relations committee if elected, to make use of his imposing stature and confident speech.”

dopey
dopey
October 14, 2022 12:10 pm

…Lisa Wilkinson dropped… Joe Burns?

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 14, 2022 12:10 pm

The 1975 Factbook was the first to be made available to the public with sales through the US Government Printing Office (GPO).

Source
https://web.archive.org/web/20070612194809/https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/docs/history.html

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2022 12:10 pm

An emotional Ms Higgins told jurors she made appointments with doctors with the intention of going but couldn’t go because she was depressed and not coping with her alleged rape.

Sure.
Like when she took a whole day off work for a doctor’s visit, was then too distraught to go, but not so distraught that she couldn’t go to the gym and hang out with her then current support puppy.

Zatara
Zatara
October 14, 2022 12:10 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2022 12:10 pm

Science news.

Research links IQ and betting on horse racing (12 Oct)

The higher a man’s IQ, the more likely he is to bet on horse racing, according to new research from academics at the University of Eastern Finland and the University of Liverpool. … The study involved more than 15,000 Finnish men who had completed an IQ test as part of their compulsory military service when joining the Finnish Defence Forces.

Listen! Birdsong is good for mental health (13 Oct)

When you next hear cheerful twittering of birds, you should stop and listen. Researchers from the Max Planck Institute for Human Development and the Universitätsklinikum Hamburg-Eppendorf (UKE) have shown that birdsong reduces anxiety and irrational thoughts. Their findings are published in the journal Scientific Reports.

That covers Tom and me, the rest of you can find your own poison.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 14, 2022 12:11 pm

If it’s not in the brief it’s either incompetent investigative work, in which case it should never have gone to trial, or it’s a bullshit story.

Can never rule out the former but I suspect it’s the latter. If so, this needs to be hammered relentlessly by the defence as it’s pretty damning. She said she made appointments – that is an eminently falsifiable piece of information. If she’s lying about this, it should really be the end of the matter. It would mean she’s not a credible witness. Why would you believe anything else she says?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Farmers, even those without a TV reception, party line telephone service, & weekly mail delivery, usually had a reasonable arm’s length grasp of the general direction things were going in the Soviet Union.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2022 12:15 pm

dover0beachsays:

October 14, 2022 at 11:35 am

Not quite Dover.
I am saying you cannot formulate a hypothesis about the relationship between beef prices and grain production in a market economy in 2022 using “observations” of pre-1990 Soviet data, no matter what the source.

You can formulate it, whether or not its wise is another matter.

That is my point.
Not that some sort of data didn’t exist.
More that Soviet era economic data is 100% useless in trying to develop a hypothesis about the inter-relationships in a modern market economy.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 14, 2022 12:15 pm

There will be a criminal referral to the DOJ. Trump will be arrested.

They have to know this will have dire consequences, don’t they?

They are banking on it.

They shot a lady in the white house in the hope all the “insurrectionists’ they were sure were armed would pull out their weapons and give them an excuse to gun down the 6th protesters.

They want this to happen.
They need an armed group of MAGAS to prove that they arent a bunch of hallucinating panic merchants.

if I was to go full tinfoil Id be guessing a last minute attempt at getting Trump perp walked followed by glowies bombing something to cancel the mid-terms/ energize the dems.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2022 12:15 pm

RNC Research
@RNCResearch

Democrat Minnesota Rep. Angie Craig: “I will never stop standing up for Big Pharma and standing against my constituents!”

JC
JC
October 14, 2022 12:16 pm

To be honest, I don’t know why anyone would trust the CIA with anything. They’ve been wrong when it counts for the past 50 years. Now they’re just a political organisation tied to the demonrats.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2022 12:21 pm

Dover

Other reference works would have used their tables, figures, etc.

Other reference works? Maybe even the Economist?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2022 12:24 pm

Zatarasays:
October 14, 2022 at 12:10 pm
Californians Move to Texas | Episode 2: The Cookout

Love Babylon Bee – “The Meat just fell into my mouth”

Winston Smith
October 14, 2022 12:25 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

The higher a man’s IQ, the more likely he is to bet on horse racing, according to new research from academics at the University of Eastern Finland and the University of Liverpool

We won’t be able to speak to Armadillo without doffing the cap, will we?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 14, 2022 12:25 pm

Just a passing thought.

Will the AWM be setting up exhibits for the whites killed during the “frontier wars”?
The speared shepherds, the shipwrecked crews and isolated homesteads?

If not why not?

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 14, 2022 12:27 pm

Whatever happened to We’re From The Sweeney, Son episode 296.
Misinformation can have consequences.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 14, 2022 12:29 pm

Will the AWM be setting up exhibits for the whites killed during the “frontier wars”?

Frollicking, take yourself outside, and give yourself a severe uppercut. You know better than that!

C.L.
C.L.
October 14, 2022 12:32 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2022 12:33 pm

Will the AWM be setting up exhibits for the whites killed during the “frontier wars”?

The nineteen – unarmed – men, women and children, murdered at Cullien La Ringo? Mrs Fraser, and her daughters, raped and murdered at Hornet Bank?

C.L.
C.L.
October 14, 2022 12:33 pm

I hope somebody is shielding Infidel Tiger from the word “panties” in the Higgins reportage.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 14, 2022 12:35 pm

Looks like Higginses Handmaids have timed their mid-week hiatus perfectly to claim the all important friday night – saturday morning headlines.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2022 12:37 pm

Suppression lifted: what the trial heard behind closed doors

More than 20 testimonies, ranging from Brittany Higgins’ mother to parliament security staff, have not been reported until now | READ THE WITNESS ACCOUNTS

By Kristin Shorten and Remy Varga

From Nation
October 14, 2022
16 minute read

A suppression order banning the reporting of evidence in Bruce Lehrmann’s high-profile rape trial has finally been lifted.

Brittany Higgins has accused Mr Lehrmann of raping her inside their boss’s ministerial suite at Parliament House in the early hours of March 23, 2019.

The former Liberal staffer alleged the assault occurred in the office of their boss at the time, then-defence industry minister Linda Reynolds, after a night out drinking with colleagues in Canberra shortly before the 2019 election.

Mr Lehrmann has pleaded not guilty to sexual intercourse without consent and being reckless as to whether Ms Higgins had consented.

The testimony of more than 20 witnesses called to give evidence at his trial in the ACT Supreme Court this week could not be published until Ms Higgins completed her cross examination.

These are the witnesses whose evidence we could not report until now.

MONDAY

LAUREN Gain

Former defence department communications adviser Lauren Gain said Ms Higgins was highly intoxicated by the time they arrived at the 88mph bar in Canberra late on March 22, 2019.

Ms Gain attended a gathering at The Dock with colleagues including Ms Higgins and Bruce Lehrmann earlier that night.

At about 11pm she shared an Uber with Higgins, Lehrmann and Austen Wenke – an adviser for then home affairs minister Peter Dutton – to 88mph bar.

Ms Gain said she was quite drunk by the time the group arrived at 88mph and remembers Ms Higgins also being highly intoxicated.

“I remember her walking back towards us and I remember her falling down on the way back towards us,” she said.

Ms Gain said Mr Lehrmann helped Ms Higgins onto the couch and she sat next to him.

NIKOLA ANDERSON

Parliament House security guard Nikola Anderson let Ms Higgins and Mr Lehrmann into Linda Reynolds’ ministerial suite in the early hours of Saturday March 23, 2019 after processing them through the security entrance at about 1.40am.

Ms Anderson said Ms Higgins’ high heels set off the security scanner and she suspected Ms Higgins was intoxicated when she struggled to put her shoes back on.

Ms Anderson said she told Ms Higgins she could put her shoes back on in the office and she let the pair into Senator Reynolds suite.

She said she hung around the ministerial wing before she returned to the security checkpoint to give her colleague Mark Fairweather a break.

At that point Mr Fairweather told her “something strange” was going on and that Mr Lehrmann had left “in a hurry” about 20 minutes after being let into the suite.

Ms Anderson performed a welfare check on Ms Higgins at about 4.15am but when she announced herself upon entering the suite she got no response and the door to the minister’s office was shut.

“As I’ve opened the door, Ms Higgins was lying on her back, completely naked on that lounge,” she said.

She said Ms Higgins opened her eyes, looked at her and then rolled into the “foetal position” facing Senator Reynold’s desk.

Johnny Rotten
October 14, 2022 12:39 pm

A father walks into a book store with his young son. The boy is holding a quarter.

Suddenly, the boy starts choking, going blue in the face. The father realises the boy has swallowed the quarter and starts panicking, shouting for help.

A well dressed, attractive and serious looking woman, in a blue business suit is sitting at a coffee bar reading a newspaper and sipping a cup of coffee. At the sound of the commotion, she looks up, puts her coffee cup down, neatly folds the newspaper and places it on the counter, gets up from her seat and makes her way, unhurried, across the book store.

Reaching the boy, the woman carefully drops his pants; takes hold of the boy’s testicles and starts to squeeze and twist; gently at first and then ever so firmly.

After a few seconds the boy convulses violently and coughs up the quarter, which the woman deftly catches in her free hand.

Releasing the boy’s testicles, the woman hands the coin to the father and walks back to her seat in the coffee bar without saying a word.

As soon as he is sure that his son has suffered no ill effects, the father rushes over to the woman and starts thanking her saying “I’ve never seen anybody do anything like that before, it was fantastic. Are you a doctor?”

“No” the woman replied. “Divorce lawyer”.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2022 12:40 pm

Trump Spokesman Releases Statement on Sham J6 Committee Subpoena of President Trump

On Thursday evening Trump Taylor Budowich, the Director of Communications for Save America and Donald J. Trump, released a statement on the continued harassment of President Donald J. Trump.

Taylor Budowich: Today, 26 days before the Midterm Elections, America is truly a nation in decline. Inflation is out of control, the crime rate is at an all time high, and the crisis at our southern border has never been worse. However, instead of using their final days in power to make life for Americans any better, Democrats are doubling and tripling down on their partisan theatrics. Democrats have no solutions and they have no interest in leading our great nation. They are simply bitter, power hungry & desperate. Pres Trump will not be intimidate by their meritless rhetoric or un-American actions. Trump-endorsed candidates will sweep the Midterms, and America First leadership & solutions will be restored. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Johnny Rotten
October 14, 2022 12:43 pm

I did not have three thousand pairs of shoes, I had one thousand and sixty.

– Imelda Marcos

m0nty
m0nty
October 14, 2022 12:43 pm

I see Russia’s puppet governor of Kherson has posted a video pleading with his backers to evacuate him and his cronies because the Ukrainians are closing in fast. Putin can’t even evacuate his soldiers, he’s not going to be able to do much about his apparatchiks.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 14, 2022 12:44 pm

Given the ubiquity of surveillance now undertaken by the state, I have long since regarded the risks of me doing the same to well outweigh the benefits.
Have you got that the right way around Dr Duk? I would have thought that with the combination of a surveillance state and their own lizard hands on the release valve, the importance of a citizen having a cheaply made, easily verified and honestly gathered documentation in the toolbox would be kinda handy-
Only to be disclosed in argument of fact, of course

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

… they’d probably call the cops on the constituents, after all, if you remember, that’s what the recent unlamented Liberal member for Reid, Fiona Martin, did when she faced tough questions and some heckling.

Heh. Not always.
On Cossack’s video Fiona Martin called the police before she was asked questions or heckled.

bons
bons
October 14, 2022 12:44 pm

Apparently Senator L Cheney (R) Wyoming is not going to return to her constituency prior to the election.
That’s strange. Apparently the high plains folk have indicated that there are a number of matters that they are keen to discuss with their elected representative.

Delta A
Delta A
October 14, 2022 12:47 pm

“Going and confronting it [alleged rape] with a health professional was a really big f—ing deal for me,” she said.

I’m amazed that ‘erhonner didn’t censure Higgins for her foul language. Is that permissible in courtrooms these days?

Figures
Figures
October 14, 2022 12:47 pm

Who were the people on this site (the old one) who were completely convinced Pell was guilty?

I wonder if any of them want to come here and post some lunatic rationalisations as to why we should believe Higgins?

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2022 12:47 pm

‘Leaving in a hurry’ isn’t necessarily indicative of being guilty of sex without consent, it could be what was I thinking going to the minister’s office in the middle of the night with someone as drunk as a carrot who’s now ‘passed out’ on the couch in the minister’s office.

Goanna
Goanna
October 14, 2022 12:47 pm

158 mm of steady rain here in north central Victoria. That’s over one quarter of the average annual rainfall in only two days.

Falls of half as much again up on the Strathbogie Ranges.

.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 12:48 pm

What I don’t get is this: US inflation is due to shortages pushing prices up – supply side. How does ramping interest rates solve a supply side problem ?

As Freidman observed: Inflation is always, and everywhere, a monetary phenomenon.

Translation, if the money supply rises compared to the supply of goods, there is more money to chase those goods, so prices rise.

‘Money’ comes from 2 sources:

1) the Central banks create it out of thin air by buying bonds created by governments.
2) the retail and commercial banks *multiply* the above by lending out 5 or 10x as much as actually exists by creating credit (aka loans). Interest rates are meant to influence demand for loans by making them more expensive. This influences the ‘multiplier’ of the money supply, but not the original money supply itself. Raising interest rates thus reduces the ‘money supply’ by reducing loans made.

The world is nearing the end of a 50 year orgy of money printing, enabled by Nixons closure of the gold window in 1971. Since then, the supply of ‘money’ (actually credit) has well outstripped the supply of goods.

For a long time, this was (partly) hidden by the effects of globalisation which made goods more plentiful and cheaper.

Now, its the opposite – 2 years of reduced production of goods due to covid, combined with accelerating money creation to continue paying people who werent able to work.

We are late stage in this – the collapse of the worlds fiat currency system is a mathematical certaintly – winter is coming….

Im not sure if COVID was an intentional COVER for this, or just a handy scapegoat (to add to Trump, Putin, Globull Warming, white men, transphobia etc etc etc

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2022 12:50 pm

Other than Monty and Grigs and a couple of wishy-washy fence sitting wishing it were truers, no-one I can recall.
I think one lawyer type tries to justify the appeal decision.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 14, 2022 12:51 pm

Have you got that the right way around Dr Duk?

fcuk … yes, the benefits exceed the risks!

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2022 12:52 pm

“Who were the people on this site (the old one) who were completely convinced Pell was guilty?”

Only the usual suspects…Monty, Vietman and one or two others.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2022 12:54 pm

Here’s my prediction, I reckon Lehmann’s gone.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2022 12:58 pm

““Who were the people on this site (the old one) who were completely convinced Pell was guilty?”

Only the usual suspects…Monty, Vietman and one or two others.”

I should also add that those suspects, Monty, Vietman and so on no doubt still think Pell is guilty.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 14, 2022 12:59 pm

Brittany Higgins is grilled over text messages to her boss and her choice of clothing on the night she was allegedly raped – after blowing up at Bruce Lehrmann from the witness box

1.
Mr Whybrow then referred Ms Higgins to her interview with federal police where she spoke about an attempt by Lehrmann to kiss her ‘before March 22’ in 2019.

‘Yes I recall being definitive. I don’t know if I should gave been so definitive,’ Ms Higgins replied.

She said the attempted kiss would have occurred during a sitting week, and on a Wednesday, because ‘that’s when we went out as a team’.

Mr Whybrow said: ‘I put to you this incident did not occur – there was no occasion where Mr Lehrmann tried to kiss you.’

Ms Higgins replied: ‘That is incorrect.’

Mr Whybrow responded: ‘I put to you that it did not happen between March 22 and March 26… there was no sitting week between March 22 and 26, 2019.’

‘I just know that we went to the Kingo [Kingston Hotel] and he made an attempt to kiss me during that week,’ Ms Higgins replied.

2.

Ms Higgins was asked whether she told Lisa Wilkinson on January 21, 2021, that Lehrmann removed her underwear.

‘No. I didn’t wear underwear that night with the dress on the basis that it had lines. I’m a 20-year-old girl, we care about stuff like that.’

Ms Higgins was shown a Q&A between her and Channel 10 TV host Lisa Wilkinson on January 21, 2021 – before her interview on The Project was recorded.

Mr Whybrow asked if she recalled being asked by Ms Wilkinson: ‘So he removed your panties?’

‘And you said “Yeah”. Do you recall giving and answer to that question?’ he asked.

Ms Higgins responded: ‘Yes. yes I do but it was wrong. I didn’t wear underwear and I was embarrassed but that wasn’t the interview itself and there was no stat dec [statutory declaration] on that… I was embarrassed by it… I continue to be embarrassed by it in front of a court.’

3.
Mr Whybrow also asked Ms Higgins about a photograph of a large bruise on her thigh, which was shown to the court last week. He asked why Ms Higgins didn’t mention the photograph in conversations with police.

Mr Whybrow then said the photograph didn’t come up until police did ‘extractions’ of her phones in January 2021.

‘In those extractions there is no reference to this bruise before January 2021,’ he put to Ms Higgins.

Ms Higgins replied: ‘I don’t think I sent it to anyone. I sent to to [News Corp journalist] Samantha Maiden and Lisa Wilkinson… but until I was making a police complaint, why would I send that around?

Mr Whybrow: ‘I put to you that the bruises and injury you sustained is a fabrication.’

Ms Higgins replied: ‘I reject that completely.’

4.
When Mr Whybrow asked Ms Higgins about doctor appointments she told police she attended, she lashed out.

‘I put it to you that you did say to both those officers that… you had doctors’ appointments,’ he said.

Mr Higgins responded: ‘Going to the doctor was a really big f**king deal for me… Yes, I agree [that I told police I went to medical centres]. I wasn’t perfect.’

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2022 12:59 pm

Here’s my prediction, I reckon Lehmann’s gone.

Happy to be proved wrong, but I’m with you. I’ll also bet good money that the case goes to the High Court.

Winston Smith
October 14, 2022 1:08 pm

Flyingduk:

1) the Central banks create it out of thin air by buying bonds created by governments.
2) the retail and commercial banks *multiply* the above by lending out 5 or 10x as much as actually exists by creating credit (aka loans).

That’s what I always thought but there’s always someone – like socialism – who claims “It’s different this time.”
I’ve thought that Quantative Easing was just another weasel word for print more money, and I strongly suspect I was right.

Winston Smith
October 14, 2022 1:09 pm

Cassie:

Here’s my prediction, I reckon Lehmann’s gone.

I think you’re right.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 14, 2022 1:10 pm

Mr Lehrmann said in the interview he became aware of the reports, in which he was not named, when his then employer the British Australian Tobacco received a request for comment from a reporter.

Mr Lehrmann said his then boss called him into his office and said the journalist said she had heard through government sources that he was the alleged rapist outlined in reports and wanted to know whether he wished to respond.

Grubby j’ism.
Ringing Lehrmann’s new boss.
Now why would they do that?
It wouldn’t be to hound him out of any job he gets and make him unemployable, would it?

bespoke
bespoke
October 14, 2022 1:12 pm

I don’t Winston.

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  2. We have a federal system of government and should generally not inhibit a State from pursuing policies different to the…

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