Open Thread – Weekend 15 Oct 2022


Little Bridge on the Voise, Osny, Camille Pissarro, 1883

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Pogria
Pogria
October 15, 2022 10:49 am

Knuckle Draggersays:
October 15, 2022 at 9:49 am
She told the court that the photo had shown up in phone data as late as January 21, 2021.

There is a simple, albeit potentially impolite method of checking.

Is the image of a normal sized leg, or a big fat leg?

KD, the photo was on Daily Mail a week or so ago until it was pulled. It was a big fat leg, and, it was of a bruise on the “outside” of the “right” leg. She stated the bruise was on the inside thigh of her left leg.

I believe her pants are burning, big time.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 15, 2022 10:52 am

Notorious Paywallian cricket panty buncher Gideon Haigh goes into bat for the cheating Ranga dwarf. Comments aren’t sympathetic. KD would be well advised to avoid in its entirety.

Thankfully I am not allowed to view the Oz. However, the teaser runs thusly:

David Warner failed the game. But the game also failed Warner. Forgiveness is possible where redress has been made – by rescinding his leadership ban.

Let’s just take this bit in isolation from the noodle-armed whiner:

But the game also failed Warner.

If Haigh, or anyone else can justify how the game of cricket failed David Warner it would be greatly appreciated.

Cricket spent a number of years and a great deal of money converting Warner from a specialist short-form slogger into a Test opener, because they thought they needed a newer version of Hayden and/or Slater – both aggressive openers with the capacity to take matches away from the opposition early.

He was the first bloke since 1877 to play for his country without having played a single first-class match.

The game Haigh says failed Warner gave him untold millions of dollars, an international profile and opened the door for even more rivers of cash from the IPL and other T20 franchise deals.

The ‘sliding doors’ nature of cricketers in favour, and more accurately the cash invested in Warner also effectively saw out the likes of Simon Katich, Phil Hughes and Chris Rogers as fixtures in the top order.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2022 10:58 am

Tucker Carlson tells Zelensky to ‘go away’ after aid demands

The US has its own critical needs it can spend billions of dollars on instead of sending it to Kiev, the Fox News host argued

Ukraine’s “Christmas list” of demands for more assistance from the US should be rejected by Congress, popular conservative TV host Tucker Carlson said as he lashed out at President Vladimir Zelensky for his latest request of tens of billions of dollars to keep his government afloat.

Speaking during his Thursday show on Fox News, the top-rated commentator dismissed the Ukrainian president as a “celebrity-endorsed dictator of the most corrupt nation in Europe.”

“What? Some uppity foreigner in a T-shirt demanding money for his ‘critical economic needs’? We have critical economic needs too, buddy. Who are you, troll? Go away!” Carlson said, responding to the request. He asked the US leadership if the Ukrainian president had a claim on the nation’s treasury.

On Wednesday Zelensky asked for $55 billion in assistance from the IMF and the World Bank, citing a need to rebuild his country after damage caused by Russian airstrikes and to keep his deficit-running government afloat. Washington previously extended sovereign loan guarantees to facilitate Kiev’s borrowing.

The Fox News segment was focused on criticizing the progressive caucus in the US Congress, particularly Democratic representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, often referred to as AOC. Carlson pointed out that all Democrats in the House repeatedly voted to spend billions on sending weapons to Ukraine, which he argued brought into question the credentials of the left-wing “squad.”

Instead of funding the conflict, AOC and other self-described progressives should have worked to “break the spell of hypnosis that the US Congress is under” and stop it signing off on Zelensky’s “Christmas list,” Carlson noted, adding that AOC is a “stealthy neocon operative” rather than what she claims to be.

The episode also featured independent journalist Aaron Mate, a supporter of AOC’s progressive domestic policies and a critic of what he calls the US proxy war with Russia in Ukraine. He suggested that the Democratic party remains influenced by “the propaganda campaign known as Russiagate,” which made calling for diplomacy with Moscow risky for US politicians.

“For six years, Democrats have been taught to believe that Russia is an existential enemy that can brainwash millions of Americans into not supporting Hillary Clinton and swinging [the 2016] elections,” he said

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 15, 2022 11:01 am

Liar liar bruise on thigh-a

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 15, 2022 11:02 am

and renewables will never be cheaper than coal due to the massive infrastructure cost

Extrapolating, this means that fusion won’t be the panacea we think it is, although it will still be much better than wind or solar as it will be baseload with minimal physical footprint. Again, while the energy itself may be effectively free, ya gotta harness it.

And if it is “carbon neutral”, it will be the real and true test of intent pushed by the likes of Robert Grift a’ Court and others. No doubt they will file it under “nucular” and say it will take too long or some other bullshit, but be proof that they don’t give flying rats arse about da environment.

But the sheep will still follow Judas goats all the way to the slaughterhouse.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 15, 2022 11:03 am

II.

Warner got half a million dollars each year from Gray-Nicolls. $500,000 for using their bats. The game gave Warner Lamborghinis, trophy wives and ensured he would never actually work a day in his life.

And then he shat all over the people who gave him all that, as well as the cricketing public by engineering and participating in the blackest scandal to kick the sport in the nuts in the last hundred years.

The vice-captain and ‘ball manager’ at mid-off, ensuring the pill was good to go before giving it to the bowler. Co-opting an even stupider player to secrete sandpaper in his jocks to rough the pill up, and using his personality to scare off an effeminate ‘captain’ who was more interested in hair product and Chinese bed sponsorship bat stickers than captaincy.

He should never have been permitted to play the game at any level for the rest of his life, let alone return to the international team, let alone be considered for any form of leadership role.

You don’t bring this fuckwit back into the fold because ‘ohhhh there aren’t any options’. For fuck’s sake, there’s already a fast bowler as a captain which is bad enough. This is an indictment on Cricket Australia’s succession planning, nothing more.

Get fucked, Gideon Haigh – and get fucked, Cricket Australia.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2022 11:03 am

Fake Aboriginal claims ‘a job for Labor watchdog’

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The scandal of non-Indigenous people and organisations claiming contracts, jobs and benefits ­intended for ­Aboriginal Australians must be a priority for Labor’s proposed ­National Anti-Corruption Commission, according to a regional NSW land council.

Darkinjung Local Aboriginal Land Council chief executive Brendan Moyle has asked the joint select committee on the ­National Anti-Corruption Commission Bill to insist that the watchdog has retrospective powers, open hearings and a mandate to pursue what he says is a lack of checks and clever workarounds by enterprising individuals.

Mr Moyle and Darkinjung chairman Barry Duncan are concerned about the awarding of commonwealth contracts through the multibillion-dollar Indigenous Procurement Policy.

Under the scheme established in 2015, more than $5.3bn worth of commonwealth contracts have been won by companies deemed at least 50 per cent Indigenous owned.

“You have got people starting up companies that are signing off on their own Aboriginality,” Mr Moyle said.

Darkinjung also claims some commonwealth agencies have left the door open for non-Indigenous people to take jobs set aside for ­Indigenous people by accepting a statutory declaration or some other form of self identification as proof of Aboriginality. The land council wants the anti-corruption commission to examine this, too.

“This is sorely needed, particularly in dealing with corrupt conduct where public officials choose to not apply the legislative and common law determinations ­relating to Aboriginal identity,” Mr Moyle wrote in his submission, obtained by The Weekend Australian.

“This is particularly concerning where public officials have been given explicit direction to apply all relevant legislative and common law determination in the distribution of publicly funded benefits intended for Aboriginal people.

“This distorts national statistics which often negatively influences policy design and implementation, and contributes to the ongoing failure of policies under Closing the Gap.

“Darkinjung, among many community-controlled organisations, has serious concerns over the lack of application of law by commonwealth public officials that relates to or could relate to the knowingly misuse of significant public resources intended to address the disadvantage and struggles that many Aboriginal people face.”

Darkinjung argues in its submission to the joint select committee that the awarding of more than $5.3bn in contracts to Indigenous companies has made no substantial difference to the ­quality of the lives of the most disadvantaged Indigenous Australians.

The definition of an Indigenous Australian in the commonwealth’s recruitment guide is a person who is of Aboriginal and or Torres Strait Island descent and identifies as Aboriginal and or Torres Strait Islander and who is accepted by their community as being Aboriginal and or Torres Strait Islander.

Mr Duncan said this was not always applied. He claimed there were loopholes in the Corporations (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander) Act that allowed people to validate claims of Aboriginality even if the community had questions about that.

“The issue of people claiming a long-lost but never proven Aboriginal to access benefits intended for legitimate Aboriginal people continues to be a growing issue for many of our communities,” he said.

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 11:08 am

The Australian netball team is reportedly rebelling against the sponsorship of Gina Rinehart by refusing to wear new uniforms which include the Hancock Prospecting logo.

Hancock’s c. $15m sponsorship, announced this year, rescued Netball Australia from a $7m black hole incurred during the covid lockdowns.

A former team captain who called Hancock a “climate denier” has led the campaign via Zoom calls to current team members.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 15, 2022 11:14 am

I have a double-vaxxed, boosterd and bed-ridden sibling who is now walking with a walking stick because she cannot tolerate any weight on her right leg. She says the pain is unbearable and has already had a cortisone injection at the site of the greatest pain, to no effect whatsoever. She has had x-rays and ultrasounds which have discovered nothing and is now awaiting an MRI procedure.

At the same time she has now developed a worrying swelling in the abdominal aorta, discovered by an ultrasound – I glanced briefly at the report and saw a mention of aneurysm — I have been sleepless with worry about her – she has to wait until 28 October to have an MRI of that — I am concerned because in our family there is a history of sudden deaths from aortic aneurysms – an aunt and a cousin both on the maternal side of our family and an aunt from a brain aneurysm on our paternal side of the family – her GP doesn’t seem to be worried. My sister is only 62

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2022 11:15 am

The netball princesses need a short, sharp shock in market economics. 12 months stuck in Australia should help.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2022 11:16 am

A former team captain who called Hancock a “climate denier” has led the campaign via Zoom calls to current team members.

I hope Gina Rinehart withdraws every penny of sponsorship, and leaves the netball team to stew in their own fvcking juice..

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 11:17 am

“The issue of people claiming a long-lost but never proven Aboriginal to access benefits intended for legitimate Aboriginal people continues to be a growing issue for many of our communities,” he said.

What say the Commonwealth awards contracts on merit and benefit to the tax payer?

Problem solved.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 15, 2022 11:19 am

The scandal of non-Indigenous people and organisations claiming contracts, jobs and benefits ­intended for ­Aboriginal Australians must be a priority for Labor’s proposed ­National Anti-Corruption Commission, according to a regional NSW land council.

Well, duh. If you loosely define something, people will adopt or disown as they please. And the more money you put on the table, the bigger the prize, and you don’t need to be Einstein to figure that out.

Akso, as someone who is active in the job market, the volume of roles set aside for indigenous folk has predictably ballooned to the point where there is overt discrimination against everyone else. So much so that the first thing I look for is whether it is set aside so I don’t waste 30 seconds reading about a job I can’t get because of my heritage. Of course, nobody could have foreseen this /sarc.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 11:20 am

Former captain. Guessing Liz Ellis

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 15, 2022 11:23 am

Roger.
The ex-captain is Sharni Norder, married to Luke Norder.

Luke Norder
Senior Commissioning Supervisor at Beon Energy Solutions

Surprise surprise.

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 11:26 am

Former captain. Guessing Liz Ellis

Sharni Norder, nee Layton:

“I did a zoom with the players just to educate them on doing right by the sport but also doing right by yourself and honouring your own values.

“I just wanted to have a conversation is that money worth your reputation and what you stand for as a person?”

“Just so they are making good decisions for themselves because they represent the clubs and our country but also themselves.”

“We have put too much into our sport to give social licence to a company who’s (sic) profit-at-all-cost attitude puts our future in danger. Be better”.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 15, 2022 11:31 am

Netball may be a team sport but self interest is a two horse race.
Sharni would like that taxpayer cash to keep flowing into the bank account.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 15, 2022 11:32 am

The scandal of non-Indigenous people and organisations claiming contracts, jobs and benefits ­intended for ­Aboriginal Australians must be a priority for Labor’s proposed ­National Anti-Corruption Commission, according to a regional NSW land council.

The chance that a Labor NACC would go after “non-Indigenous people and organisations” is nil point nil due to Justice Mordecai Bromberg.

Should’ve thought about that at the time Labor and land council peoples.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 15, 2022 11:32 am

“They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue.”
“Someone tries to kill you, you kill’em right back.” Capt Malcolm Reynolds

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 15, 2022 11:32 am

Gine Rinehart’s asset purchase and sponsorship is the only reason the Royal Flying Doctor Service still operates.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 11:33 am

Thanks Roger. Self interest indeed

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 15, 2022 11:34 am

How did we breed such appalling grifters posing as saints?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 15, 2022 11:34 am

Former captain. Guessing Liz Ellis

My in-house netball advisor tells me the likely ‘former captain’ is someone called Sharni Norder.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 11:35 am

And Gez

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 15, 2022 11:36 am

Well, lookee.
The Cat is a hotbed of netball enthusiasts.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2022 11:37 am

Former captain. Guessing Liz Ellis

ALPBC Marxist kindergarten JJJ favourite.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 15, 2022 11:43 am

A small business that I’ve dealt with for a number of years is closing today. Previous to this announcement the business had approximately five branches.

Apart from the branch I dealt with, which closed about a month ago, all the others were in Sydney – and all on the north shore.

The manager of the local branch told me that their passing trade had dried up when another small business next door had closed so when their own lease was due to be renewed, the owner decided against continuing.

I wasn’t aware of what was happening to the Sydney stores until I received an email this morning to advise that the last shop was closing today.

This was a very successful business. The evidence of which was in the number of years it traded – 53, in all. It stocked what the customers wanted, had a loyal client base and employed possibly 25+ people across the branches.

From all the evidence it was a successful business – at least before the covid. During and post covid, it would seem, not so much.

But thanks to centralised government, bureaucratic ineptitude and malevolence, and political and economic stupidity, over the last 2.5 years, the management of this business was taken away from the owner and a series of decisions by others who had not interest in the enterprise broke this business.

“All Hail Scummo” for doing what not even the “Great Gough’s Government” could do to this one small family concern.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 15, 2022 11:44 am

Netball Australia might have trouble finding any sponsors at all, if they insist on sticking to Sharni’s “values”. Lots of other sports would like attention from Ms. Rinehart.

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 11:46 am

Well, lookee.
The Cat is a hotbed of netball enthusiasts.

Beats AFL.

Anyway, Norder suggests there were other sponsors available, but the only other offer on the table, reportedly, was less than half what Rinehart was offering, which would have left Netball Australia still in debt.

Meanwhile, the team just lost to NZ in the Constellation Cup opener.

Winston Smith
October 15, 2022 11:46 am

Sancho Panzer:

A rello of Mrs P’s is a nurse who claims she knows a lot more than the doctors and specialists.

Any nurse stupid enough to think that needs a jolly good kick up the freckle.

Crossie
Crossie
October 15, 2022 11:47 am

Gina Reinhardt should simply yank the sponsorship money from Netball Australia and let them pay for their own costs. There will then be very little travel and other carbon-generating activities so the environment “wins”.

Speedbox
October 15, 2022 11:49 am

Roger says:
October 15, 2022 at 11:26 am

As I understand it, the issue about Hancock Prospecting sponsorship of netball has nothing to do with Gina. It stems back to comments made by Lang back in 1984.

So, 38 years ago, somebody said something, that hasn’t been repeated, and the person who said it is long dead …… but you can stick your $15 million ‘cos …… well, just ‘coz and …. if it sinks netball ….. we had a zoom call….. we’re anti gambling and anti smoking too…..there are plenty of others who will sponsor us……

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 15, 2022 11:50 am

Sharni Norder is she related to Laura?

Winston Smith
October 15, 2022 11:51 am

Is it just me or does the world appear more stuffed than usual today?

Crossie
Crossie
October 15, 2022 11:53 am

Would this Sharni Norder be related to a certain Lauren Norder?*

I couldn’t resist it.

Crossie
Crossie
October 15, 2022 11:54 am

Snap, Eyrie!

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 11:55 am

As I understand it, the issue about Hancock Prospecting sponsorship of netball has nothing to do with Gina. It stems back to comments made by Lang back in 1984.

That’s merely an addendum due to the team having an indigenous player.

Norder is quite a piece of work.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 15, 2022 11:55 am

Tintarella di Lunasays:
October 15, 2022 at 11:14 am

Tinta, so sorry to read that.

Re the pain, my close relo has been seeing a cranial osteopath for the dreadful migraines and neck pain she’s experienced since she had the jabs – AZ x2. The osteopath said her condition is the result of all the inflammation now in her body. The treatment is the only thing to date that seems to have helped, though when she’s tired it is worse.

(Only making the suggestion re her pain level).

best regards,
BBS

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 15, 2022 11:59 am

“All Hail Scummo” for doing what not even the “Great Gough’s Government” could do to this one small family concern.

Morrison.

The compromise candidate who got off the leash. Evil little ferret.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 15, 2022 11:59 am

On the subject of Mizz Higgins and her “flexible” memory, this seems to have been the timeline of the white dress.

March 2019, worn, sans at least knickers, and possibly other underwear, on the night of the alleged incident.

Thrown under the bed in a plastic bag, not worn again, given a “symbolic’ wash around six months later (September 2019), and thrown away.

Photo shows her wearing it about two months after the alleged incident. Oops.

Complaint to police formalised early 2021.

But, unless I mixed up the dates, the AFP forensic officer who tested the dress for “residue” said during the week that she did the tests in early 2021.

So, if I read that AFP officer’s evidence correctly, how did a dress allegedly thrown away around 18 months earlier suddenly become available for testing?

bespoke
bespoke
October 15, 2022 12:03 pm

The manager of the local branch told me that their passing trade had dried up when another small business next door had closed so when their own lease was due to be renewed, the owner decided against continuing.

My Mil is selling her pub for next to nothing and moving in with us for the same reason, BBS.

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 12:04 pm

Morrison.

The compromise candidate who got off the leash.

And as it turns out they needn’t have been concerned about Lurch.

Speedbox
October 15, 2022 12:05 pm

Norder is quite a piece of work.

Ok. I don’t know of this person.

But I was struck by the flippant approach – namely that the Hancock sponsorship can be easily/readily replaced. I was aware that Netball Australia had some deep financial issues and I’ll bet my socks they were doing the rounds looking for sponsors, then, enter one Gina Hancock. Yay, we’re saved!! $15m over 4 years. I’d say the Board were relieved ‘Phew, that was close’.

Wonder what they’re saying now?

But apparently, they needn’t worry as new multi-year multi-million dollar sponsors are available. /sarc

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2022 12:05 pm

So, if I read that AFP officer’s evidence correctly, how did a dress allegedly thrown away around 18 months earlier suddenly become available for testing?

Counsel for the defence closing address should make interesting listening.

Winston Smith
October 15, 2022 12:06 pm

Bespoke:

My Mil is selling her pub for next to nothing and moving in with us for the same reason, BBS.

The crushing of the middle class continues…

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 15, 2022 12:06 pm

Sharni Norder is she related to Laura?

Have to check that great Strayan chronicler, Afferbeck Lauder.

MatrixTransform
October 15, 2022 12:12 pm

bespoke’s MiL owns a pub?

… explains everything

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 15, 2022 12:12 pm

But I was struck by the flippant approach – namely that the Hancock sponsorship can be easily/readily replaced.

Easily replaced. Just as much cash, if not more.
A seamless transition.
Learn to code.

Winston Smith
October 15, 2022 12:18 pm

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/can-the-new-pm-survive-the-looming-winter-energy-disaster-?mc_cid=25bf20d480

One indication of how bad things are has come from Frans Timmermans – the EU’s vice-president and the man in charge of the EU green deal, no less – who warns that only a rapid return to fossil fuels will be able to stave off civil unrest and economic disaster. That’s the very point net zero sceptics have been making for years. It’s just a shame that the UK government decided, in a fit of virtue signalling last year, to allow a recently closed coal-fired power station to be blown up rather than mothballed.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 12:18 pm

Test

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 15, 2022 12:27 pm

Counsel for the defence closing address should make interesting listening.

I’m a TikTok influencer, not a lawyer, but as I understand things, unless the defence puts Lehrmann up for cross examination next week, the porkies he’s apparently told (to PH security and cops) will stand unchallenged.

Given it’s a forensics-free, ‘she-said he-said’, Our Brinny’s bit of court room theatre and passive aggressive responses to defence counsel’s questions on Friday seem like smart strategy to get a jury over her own ‘misremembering’.

A couple of days’ rehearsal probably helped quite a bit.

Game not over.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 12:27 pm

Flemington residents most upset a wall to safeguard that famed course from floods, built in 2007, has resulted in their homes going under.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 12:28 pm

I tried linking a Hun piece which suggested Dale Monteith is tone deaf for praising the wall

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 12:29 pm

Which may be so, but they would do well to reflect on a life lost in Rochester in the floodwaters

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2022 12:29 pm

King ‘supports DNA tests’ to solve Princes in the Tower of London mystery
Valentine Low
Friday October 14 2022, 5.00pm BST, The Times

One of the great mysteries of English history — whether the princes in the Tower were murdered by Richard III, the last of the Plantagenets — could be one step closer to being solved.

The King is said to be “supportive” of plans for a DNA investigation of bones believed to be those of the two boys, Richard’s nephews.

Edward V succeeded his father Edward IV in 1483 at the age of 12. After little more than two months he was deposed by his uncle, the Duke of Gloucester, who reigned as Richard III until his defeat at Bosworth in 1485 by the forces of Henry Tudor, who became Henry VII.

Edward and his brother Richard, Duke of York, are thought to have been killed in the Tower of London and buried in Westminster Abbey, with tradition dictating that Richard III was to blame.

For years campaigners have wanted to run tests on the remains of children found in the Tower in 1674 which are believed to be those of the princes. The bones were moved to Westminster Abbey on the orders of Charles II and put in an urn designed by Sir Christopher Wren.
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Tracy Borman, joint chief curator of Historic Royal Palaces, has said the late Queen blocked any investigation into the remains. Borman said, however, that Charles took “a very different view” and was believed to support DNA testing.

Speaking at Sandon Literature Festival in Staffordshire, she said: “He has said he would like an investigation to go ahead so that we can determine, once and for all, how the young royals died.”

There may be other obstacles to be overcome before any DNA tests can be carried out. In 2013 previously confidential correspondence disclosed that Westminster Abbey, with backing from the Queen and the government, had repeatedly refused requests to carry out forensic tests. The remains are inside the urn in the abbey in the north aisle of the Lady Chapel, where Elizabeth I and Queen Mary are buried together.

The remains were examined in the 1930s, when they were found to be those of two young individuals, probably male.

The renewal of interest in the contents of the urn followed the discovery in 2012 of Richard III’s remains under a car park in Leicester. They were reinterred at Leicester Cathedral in 2015.

According to the 17th-century Latin inscription, the remains in the urn are those of the princes, who were “stifled with pillows . . . by the order of their perfidious uncle Richard the Usurper”.

The Richard III Society tried to have the urn opened in 1993 together with the BBC, with another attempt being made by Channel 4 in 1995. The then Dean of Westminster, the Very Rev Michael Mayne, strongly resisted both attempts. The church officials were backed by Buckingham Palace and Lord Howard of Lympne, when he was home secretary, who were in “full agreement”, according to a Home Office file released at the time.

The dean had said: “There are others buried in the abbey whose identity is somewhat uncertain, including Richard II, and allowing these bones to be examined could well set a precedent for other requests.”

A Westminster Abbey spokesman said: “The line of successive deans has been that these are the mortal remains of young children and we do not want to disturb them.”

The abbey did not seek permission from the Queen to turn down the request, he said. Should the dean ever change his mind, as the abbey is a royal peculiar — that is, under the direct authority of the sovereign — he would as a matter of courtesy go to the palace first.

With no conclusive evidence of the princes’ fate, some believe that they were not killed by Richard III. One theory is that the king allowed the older boy, the erstwhile Edward V, to live in secret under a false name in a village in Devon.

Buckingham Palace declined to comment.

johanna
johanna
October 15, 2022 12:30 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
October 15, 2022 at 8:36 am

“All women are COWS, Cassie.”

LOL, except me, I’m a CAT!

Seriously though, women can be nasty, vindictive, mean, spiteful, unforgiving, bitchy and bitter in ways that no men are.

No doubt.

But, as the statistics show, men just leap over those tactics and use violence.

I am at a loss to figure out how this kind of ‘argument’ helps in moving things along.

The great Tim Buckley illustrated the dynamic.

You hurt me, I hurt you …

I had to prove that I was a hunter again …

and so on. He got it.

BTW, no idea why people fawn over his loser son. Tim was a great artist, and Greetings from LA is timeless.

Makka
Makka
October 15, 2022 12:30 pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/DTAPCAP/status/1581076050364465152/photo/1

#FED policy driving a generation of investors away from #stocks and #bonds.

Yikes!

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 15, 2022 12:31 pm

Staff at an all-boys private school in Melbourne’s bayside suburbs have been told to stop referring to male-presenting students with gender-specific terminology.

In a letter sent to teachers and school staff this week, St Bede’s principal Deb Frizza said they should no longer label students using the words “boy”, “young man”, or “Beda Boy” – the term used when referring to alumni of the secondary school.

It comes after other Victorian schools’ attempts to become more inclusive of non-binary and queer students.

The letter, seen by the Herald Sun, is understood to have been sent following updated Victorian Child Safe Standards that were revised in July this year.

“As part of this, along with other schools, we are looking at the language we use,” Ms Frizza said.

“Can I ask that we start to use gender neutral language in our communications where possible? I know it can be challenging when communicating with the parents of senior students and calling them ‘children’, so if anyone has a better gender neutral term than this, please let me know.

“The use of the term ‘student’ rather than ‘young man’ or ‘boy’ can easily be made. I’m yet to find an alternative for ‘Beda Boy’, and given the history of this term, we would need to think carefully on any changes here.

“Of course any homophobic racist or other derogatory names/phrases should be challenged at all times.”

The revised child safety standards require schools to: “Pay particular attention to the needs of children and young people with disability, children and young people from culturally and linguistically diverse backgrounds, those who are unable to live at home, and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex children and young people”.

The wider school community was advised of the shift away from gendered language in a separate newsletter.

“As a college, we are in the process of aligning our internal policies to these new Victorian standards, which came into effect on 1 July 2022. As such, we, along with all Victorian schools, are examining the language we use, and the impact this may have on the diverse groups referenced in the above standards,” it said.

Ms Frizza said the language change followed consultation with all staff at the Catholic school, who were reportedly supportive of using gender-neutral terms.

But one teacher at the school, who wished not to be named, told the Herald Sun that staff were not specifically asked about gendered language, but rather a broader discussion about how the school could be more inclusive.

“The parents were told that this was a whole school decision, but all teachers were not consulted,” he said.

“It’s outrageous that you can’t refer to the students as boys and young men.”

But recent research conducted by Western Sydney University revealed that 82 per cent of parents want gender and sexuality taught to students from kindergarten.

St Bede’s is among a string of schools in Victoria adopting more inclusive language and school policies.

Springvale’s Killester College scrapped female bathroom signage and strict uniform policies that once required all students to wear a skirt or dress.

Toorak College in Mt Eliza revised its traditional uniform policy and now avoids female- specific terms when addressing cohorts with non-binary students.

Mentone Girls Secondary College allows students to choose whether they want to wear skirts or pants.

Last year, the former federal government’s proposed religious discrimination bill was thwarted when members crossed the floor to vote with Labor to amend the bill to protect trans students from being expelled because of their identity.

It is illegal for schools to discriminate against a person because of their sexual orientation, gender identity or intersex status.

Herald-Sun

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 12:35 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

October 15, 2022 at 11:01 am

Liar liar bruise on thigh-a

OK.
I have checked four different types of phones this morning. One i-phone and three different Android brands. All of them either show date-time stamp on the photo, or it can be recovered with “show details”. Why did the AFP officer not just do this, or put forward an explanation as to why this common smartphone feature didn’t work on Britnah’s phone?
(Standby for an explanation of phone tech from Alexander Googles Bell).

Johnny Rotten
October 15, 2022 12:36 pm

A girl phoned me the other day and said… ‘Come on over, there’s nobody home.’ I went over. Nobody was home.

– Rodney Dangerfield

Tom
Tom
October 15, 2022 12:39 pm

The Australian netball team is reportedly rebelling against the sponsorship of Gina Rinehart by refusing to wear new uniforms which include the Hancock Prospecting logo.

Anyone have a link?

Makka
Makka
October 15, 2022 12:40 pm

Moderna CEO Confirms New mRNA ‘Injection’ to Repair Heart Muscles After Heart Attack

The CEO of Moderna announced his company has a program that involves injecting messenger RNA (mRNA) into people’s hearts following a heart attack.

“We are now in a super exciting program where we inject mRNA in people’s hearts after a heart attack to grow back new blood vessels and re-vascularize the heart,” Stephane Bancel, the CEO, told Sky News in a recent interview.

Bancel did not elaborate on the nature of the program. His company produced one of the world’s most-used mRNA vaccines for COVID-19—as did pharmaceutical giant Pfizer.

When the reporter suggested that there is an “irony” within the COVID-19 pandemic that it allowed companies like Moderna to “develop these other areas because of the revenues that came through the door,” Bancel agreed. “You’re 100 percent right,” he said.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/moderna-ceo-confirms-new-mrna-injection-to-repair-heart-muscles-after-heart-attack_4791464.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge&src_src=partner&src_cmp=ZeroHedge

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 12:57 pm

Roger earlier:-

Hancock’s c. $15m sponsorship, announced this year, rescued Netball Australia from a $7m black hole incurred during the covid lockdowns.

A former team captain who called Hancock a “climate denier” has led the campaign via Zoom calls to current team members.

Liz Ellis?
I seem to remember her screeching (yes, that is the right word) that Israel Folau needed to buckle under to the views of Rugby’s main sponsor, Qantas.
No ifs.
No buts.

bespoke
bespoke
October 15, 2022 12:58 pm

But recent research conducted by Western Sydney University revealed that 82 per cent of parents want gender and sexuality taught to students from kindergarten.

I’d like to how the question was framed.

bespoke
bespoke
October 15, 2022 1:11 pm

I am at a loss to figure out how this kind of ‘argument’ helps in moving things along.

Stop promoting aggressive emotionalism as being powerful to girls will go a long way.

Razey
Razey
October 15, 2022 1:12 pm

But recent research conducted by Western Sydney University revealed that 82 per cent of parents want gender and sexuality taught to students from kindergarten.

And the clot shots are 95% effective. 😉

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2022 1:13 pm

Hancock’s c. $15m sponsorship, announced this year, rescued Netball Australia from a $7m black hole incurred during the covid lockdowns.

A former team captain who called Hancock a “climate denier” has led the campaign via Zoom calls to current team members.

I’d go out of my way to sponsor women’s basketball, hockey, chugby, soccer, league, cricket, softball and AFL.

Eat shit and die. Netball is a horrible fake sport. Let the black hole consume yourself. Close your eyes step outside yourself and let yourself go. As you go insane, go insane.

Razey
Razey
October 15, 2022 1:15 pm

What is a “climate denier”?

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2022 1:15 pm

What should happen to Netball Australia

Razor’s edge
Outlines the dead
Incisions in my head
Anticipation, the stimulation
To kill the exhilaration

Close your eyes
Look deep in your soul
Step outside yourself
And let your mind go
Frozen eyes stare deep in your mind as you die

Close your eyes
And forget your name
Step outside yourself
And let your thoughts drain
As you go insane… go insane

Innate seed
To watch you bleed
A demanding physical need
Desecrated, eviscerated
Time’s perpetuated

Close your eyes
Look deep in your soul
Step outside yourself
And let your mind go
Frozen eyes stare deep in your mind as you die

Close your eyes and forget your name
Step outside yourself and let your thoughts drain
As you go insane, go insane

Inert flesh
A bloody tomb
A decorated splatter brightens the room
An execution, a sadist ritual
Mad intervals of mind residuals

Close your eyes
Look deep in your soul
Step outside yourself
And let your mind go
Frozen eyes stare deep in your mind as you die

Close your eyes and forget your name
Step outside yourself and let your thoughts drain
As you go insane, go insane

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2022 1:20 pm

A truly spiteful person would fund juniors in all sports competing against shitball (netty), which tunnel dwelling physiotherapists wearing red shoes concocted to drum up business.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 1:20 pm

Dr F earlier.

I’m a TikTok influencer, not a lawyer, but as I understand things, unless the defence puts Lehrmann up for cross examination next week, the porkies he’s apparently told (to PH security and cops) will stand unchallenged.

Britnah is half the length of the straight ahead of Brucie in the Pants On Fire Stakes.
As far as I can see, Lehrmann has been shaky in only one area. That is, the reason for coming back to the office. Even though he admitted later that he was there to hop into the Ministerial Scotch, it is unlikely he is going to say so to security.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
October 15, 2022 1:22 pm

What a great day ahead of Thoroughbred Horse Racing. The Everest, Caulfield Cup are the pick but heaps of other great racing.

shatterzzz
October 15, 2022 1:23 pm

A couple of days’ rehearsal probably helped quite a bit.

Naaah! .. that can’t have happened .. LOL! .. I, foolishly, opined that thought a coupla dayz ago and was roundly berated for insinuating that Brittn’s legal folk would stoop so low as to use her absence for coaching purposes .. as well as being reminded that all lawyers are salt-of-the-earth, George Washington ‘axe & tree” folk when it comes to adhereing to legal proceedings and truth! ……..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 1:25 pm

I genuinely hope Gina Rinehart pulls the $15 meg.
Watch the junior players then turn on the ex-captain and the players leading the boycott.
It would be great if she then tipped the cash into Netty in the UK or NZ.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2022 1:25 pm

There are essentially only two drugs that Western civilization tolerates:

Caffeine from Monday to Friday to energize you enough to make you a productive member of society, and alcohol from Friday to Monday to keep you too stupid to figure out the prison that you are living in.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 15, 2022 1:28 pm

Was just talking to a friend who works for Logan City Council. Had recently applied for another job within the Council. Had to tick a box to say willing to take any vaccines as mandated.

This is pure evil how they are doing this. Naturally good luck trying to find who gave the directions.

John Larter is a former NSW medic who runs a podcast called Club Grubbery (type in Club Grubbery on Google and should find Graham Hood on Facebook where the podcasts are posted). Does them with Graham Hood the ex Qantas pilot who has been prominent at rallies. In a recent podcast he mentioned NSW Paramedics who have not taken the relevant next shot are required to wear N95 mask and can’t sit with their colleagues at meals. They would be the same guys they share the vehicle with and mix socially with off duty. It is not about health but about coercion to ensure take the next one.

Anybody else working for a Government or Council experiencing similar policies.

Then you have major corporates still requiring Vax proof to work there.

Very noticeable that the Unions totally quiet on this subject.

Speedbox
October 15, 2022 1:28 pm

Winston Smith says:
October 15, 2022 at 12:18 pm

From the article you posted:

A wave of civil unrest is spreading across the world, as the costs of climate and environmental policies hit home. The Dutch farmers’ roadblocks and the sacking of Sri Lanka’s presidential palace have been the most prominent upheavals. But there has been unrest in Germany, Spain, Italy, Argentina and a number of African countries too.

The energy crisis is probably even more pressing: most of Europe faces a serious possibility of rolling blackouts this winter and even, in a worst-case scenario, people being unable to heat their homes.

Mrs Speedbox has been talking to a friend of hers who married an Italian fellow and they live somewhere in far northern Italy. I have never met this woman but Mrs Speedbox was talking to her by phone a couple of nights ago.

According to the friend, the situation is “four times worse” than is reported in the press. She claims that new wood burning heaters have completely sold out and even though that style of heater has been somewhat less popular and discouraged due to ‘climate change’ in favour of gas, people are also now checking their flues or chimneys in anticipation of firing up older units. Wood and wood pellets (briquettes?) are in high demand. Purchase of tape to seal window sills is de rigour along with door sealing kits being installed or replaced. Torches and spare batteries are flying off the shelves. Non-perishable food is being stored. Effectively, it’s like the clock has been wound back 30 years or more.

According to the friend, people are genuinely worried that this winter will be brutal due to the lack of alternative heating (gas) and likely disruption to electricity supply and/or the cost of either. She also commented extensively that people “are very angry” that it has come to this. The talk in the markets is deeply critical of politicians throughout the EU, not just Italy. People are pissed off and their mood is unlikely to improve as the weather continues to cool, then freeze.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 15, 2022 1:30 pm

bespoke & Winston,
along with the jabbed-injured, the true casualties of this so-called “pandemic.”

JC
JC
October 15, 2022 1:31 pm

Where’s the recession looming or otherwise?

London art sales doing well.

London Sales Suggest Unabated Strength in the Art Market

Bidders were in hot pursuit of art during back-to-back auctions at Phillips and Sotheby’s in London on Friday against a backdrop of currency volatility and economic uncertainty that didn’t appear to suppress bidding.

Several new records were set, largely for ultra-contemporary artists, including Robert Nava, Michaela Yearwood-Dan, and Doron Langberg at Phillips, and Julien Nguyen, Louise Giovanelli, and Charline von Heyl, at Sotheby’s. Paintings by Caroline Walker set two artist records in one day, first at Phillips and then at Sotheby’s.

Walker’s Night Scenes, 2017, achieved £516,600 (US$577,042) at the Phillips sale, and then just hours later at Sotheby’s “The Now” sale, 13 bidders drove the price of her Indoor Outdoor, 2015, to £529,200.

Sotheby’s also saw an auction record for Frank Auerbach’s Head of J.Y.M., 1984-85, during its contemporary sale. The painting sold above estimates for £5.6 million, with fees.

Bell weather stock JPMorgan

JPMorgan Tops Estimates, Easing Worries of Economic Slowdown

and

Wells Fargo’s Net Interest Income Beats Estimates. Thank Higher Interest Rates.

Revenues at the JP Morgan actually rose.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 1:33 pm

shatterzzz.
For the 15th time, I didn’t say it would never happen, just that it was extremely high risk for anyone from the DPP to brief her mid-stream in her evidence.
Career ending risky.
Instead of the usual “….. lol-ing” and idle speculation, can you point to any witness who gave evidence during her “sabbatical” and how it informed her short stint in the box on Friday?
You know, some actual reading and research on the matter.
Just one little example of something said Monday to Thursday and a resultant “clarification” by Britnah on Friday.
Off you go.
…………………………………… LOL!!!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 1:34 pm

Jeez, if I have ever seen a witness who exhibits all the signs of not being coached, it is our Britnah.

Razey
Razey
October 15, 2022 1:38 pm

Had to tick a box to say willing to take any vaccines as mandated.

Yes, I recently refused a job due to this clause in the contract. The only way out is if everyone refuses to sign. But that is wishful thinking.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 15, 2022 1:38 pm

Netball is a horrible fake sport.

Preach it. A distracting activity for the girls, so they may remain occupied while blokes run around the paddock. Exhibit A: Every country football league in the country.

I genuinely hope Gina Rinehart pulls the $15 meg.
Watch the junior players then turn on the ex-captain and the players leading the boycott.
It would be great if she then tipped the cash into Netty in the UK or NZ.

No no.

The cash should go to porn and prawn nights and petrol vouchers for all country footy clubs. When questioned (which she shouldn’t be, as it’s her cash to do with as she damn well likes) a one-line statement: ‘Well, the wokey entitled moles didn’t want it.’

John H.
John H.
October 15, 2022 1:38 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
October 15, 2022 at 1:34 pm
Jeez, if I have ever seen a witness who exhibits all the signs of not being coached, it is our Britnah.

The price you pay for taking advice from Bandana’s woman.

I’m expecting a no verdict but that is predicated on the irrational assumption that the jurors will understand the concept of beyond reasonable doubt.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 1:39 pm

By the way, no-one suggested that there has been no discussion, coaching or rehearsing of trial Q&A beforehand.
The only question was around Britnah accessing evidence of other witnesses during the trial and before she had completed her evidence . It was accepted it might come from the Team Britnah pit crew, but it is extremely high risk for a practising lawyer to engage in that skullduggery.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2022 1:42 pm

I genuinely hope Gina Rinehart pulls the $15 meg.

Part of the commotion is down to a few remarks Lang Hancock made about indigenous Australians FORTY YEARS ago, and, now the team has an indigenous member, their feelins are hurt.

miltonf
miltonf
October 15, 2022 1:43 pm

I genuinely hope Gina Rinehart pulls the $15 meg.
Watch the junior players then turn on the ex-captain and the players leading the boycott.
It would be great if she then tipped the cash into Netty in the UK or NZ.

I hope so too. Poisonous, petulant cretins.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 1:43 pm

The price you pay for taking advice from Bandana’s woman.

Yep.
As I said a few days ago, trial lawyers just hate multiple points of exposure of the accounts given by their star witness before trial.
When you do lots of speeches and interviews, the chances of an inconsistency popping up increase exponentially.

shatterzzz
October 15, 2022 1:45 pm

Off you go.

Dear, dear! .. all I did was point out criticizing legal folk is fraught with danger here! .. personally, I couldn’t care less one way or the other about legal ethics .. tho I’m still bemused by the fact that none of the media has shown any interest in why she was absent .. something that you’d, normally, expect from those “enquiring” minds involving a sudden intermission to a court case …….

shatterzzz
October 15, 2022 1:46 pm

Italized the wrong bit … duuuuuuuh!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 1:48 pm

all I did was point out criticizing legal folk is fraught with danger here! 

And all I did was ask you for a bit of possible circumstantial evidence to back up your LOL-ing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 1:50 pm

tho I’m still bemused by the fact that none of the media has shown any interest in why she was absent ..

It was reported on Tuesday.
“Unwell”.
It is a very high possibility that the judge didn’t allow the media to report the details of the submission asking for a break.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 1:51 pm

Sorry.
………………………………… LOL!!!

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 1:52 pm
Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 1:53 pm
Makka
Makka
October 15, 2022 1:54 pm

Where’s the recession looming or otherwise?

It could be here.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T10Y2Y

… possibly heading here..

https://www.ismworld.org/globalassets/pub/research-and-surveys/rob/pmi/rob202210pmi.pdf

Recession or not, what matters is the USD. And the indexes will stay fkd until something (like the Fed) knocks it off it’s perch. It’s possible that could be close- liquidity contagion in treasuries seems to be concerning some the right people.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 15, 2022 1:55 pm

But recent research conducted by Western Sydney University revealed that 82 per cent of parents want gender and sexuality taught to students from kindergarten.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GSKwf4AIlI

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 1:56 pm

Liz Truss has thrown Chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng under a bus.

What a train wreck.

Mmm…any other transport related metaphors I can add?

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 1:58 pm

Mmm…any other transport related metaphors I can add?

Thrown from helicopter?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 15, 2022 1:58 pm

criticizing legal folk is fraught with danger here!

No, criticising legal folk is fine sport. Here, and everywhere. It’s only ‘fraught with danger’ if you don’t understand the process.

For clarity. Every single prosecution witness – every last one of them – is ‘prepped’ by the Crown legal team before they give evidence. One reason is that the ‘legal folk’ want to ensure that the evidence they will give is substantially the same as that provided in their earlier statements – and that they don’t go off on tangents and want to talk about ‘the bigger picture’ and band camp stories. This ensures the prosecution strategy remains intact.

The other reason is that witnesses, in general terms, are not used to giving evidence in court. They will be told what the process is, and to answer questions politely instead of telling the other side’s barrister to go fuck themselves and start arguments with the judge. Sometimes this happens anyway.

To make sure the integrity of a witness’ evidence is not compromised, they are banned – no ifs, no buts – banned from the courtroom until after they’ve given their evidence. If you’re the second, third or tenth witness on the list you don’t get to be inside the court until after you’ve given your evidence.

If Brih-nee Commando was given a sniff of any evidence given by anyone else while her own evidence was part-heard, it would be career suicide for the prosecution barristers because this can be spotted a mile away. It is very noticeable and will result in either a mistrial or a result against her, regardless of the strength of her evidence. After that will come the industry smackings and sackings for her legal team.

And that’s how babies are made.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 1:58 pm

Sunk like the Titanic?

cohenite
October 15, 2022 2:00 pm

rosiesays:
October 15, 2022 at 5:56 am
Guardian
Australian wheat yields plummet after decades of global heating, study finds

It’s the turdball times so its BS. The 2nd last paragraph of a long article full of alarmism and end of agriculture hellfire states:

He said wheat yields were increasing “due to the ingenuity of growers” coupled with research, adding: “Growers continue to adapt and produce crops despite the challenges thrown at them.”

Here’s Jo on wheat yields. And here’s the latest from World Data. So yields per acre are down off 2017 highs but nothing to do with alarmism.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 15, 2022 2:00 pm

What a train wreck.
Mmm…any other transport related metaphors I can add?

Kenworth rollover due to driver BingBong enragement.

Makka
Makka
October 15, 2022 2:02 pm

Mmm…any other transport related metaphors I can add?

Truss to Kwarteng: On yer bike!

rosie
rosie
October 15, 2022 2:07 pm

Cohenite
When linking the Guardian that’s a given.

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 2:10 pm

Mmm…any other transport related metaphors I can add?

Thrown from helicopter?

That’s what the Tories are going to do to Liz.

miltonf
miltonf
October 15, 2022 2:10 pm

Paski is a poisonous little moron. Dumb as dog shit but smug. They despise the people that house, feed, clothe and pay them. They also demand all the comforts and mod cons but despise the men who make/made it possible. I reckon parliament house in Canbra is full of such steaming trash.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 15, 2022 2:11 pm

The issue of people claiming a long-lost but never proven Aboriginal

An upcoming ABC show (Insight?) will profile individuals who have indigenous heritage but have had to struggle to prove it.
One of those interviewed is that ubiquitous fraudster Bruce Pascoe who is shown on the advertising trailer saying “its upsetting to be constantly asked to prove I am aboriginal.”
Well get used to being upset sunshine. After this show goes to air more questions will come your way.

miltonf
miltonf
October 15, 2022 2:13 pm

Infact I would surmise that Paski would be something of a role model for many brain dead slags in Canbra. After all, they probably used to all watch the west wing sludge.

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 2:18 pm

Just connecting some dots in the netball story…

It would appear that Netball Australia teed up the Zoom call so Captain Karen (aka Sharni Norder) could give a pep talk to the team before they met NZ in NZ for the first round of the Constellation Cup.

Norder went all SJW on them during the call and the team is now throwing shade on the sport’s financial saviour, Gina Rinehart.

To top it off, they went out and lost the game.

Chuckle.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2022 2:20 pm

Next week, the Crown will close its case in court, with the defence expected to close fairly soon after.

The jury will be slimmed down from 16 to 12. From there, deliberations on whether there is enough evidence to find Mr Lehrmann guilty will begin.

Perth Now. “, deliberations on whether there is enough evidence to find Mr Lehrmann guilty will begin.” First I’ve heard of that, as part of the proceedings.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2022 2:24 pm

Perth Now. “, deliberations on whether there is enough evidence to find Mr Lehrmann guilty will begin.” First I’ve heard of that, as part of the proceedings.

With qualifications, that would be a committal.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2022 2:28 pm

Well get used to being upset sunshine. After this show goes to air more questions will come your way.

Andrew Bolt will be pizzing himself in a dark corner…

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 2:30 pm

Perth Now. “, deliberations on whether there is enough evidence to find Mr Lehrmann guilty will begin.” First I’ve heard of that, as part of the proceedings.

Presumably they mean the jury deliberations.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 2:31 pm

And that is one of the issues OSC. How much Aboriginality makes you thus? 1/16, 1/32 and etc etc.
Of course it should be hard to prove. Bruce Pascoe hasn’t proved beyond any doubt he is so go forth and fornicated with thyself Mr Pascoe

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 15, 2022 2:32 pm

It would be great if she then tipped the cash into Netty in the UK or NZ.

Women’s Rugby in Oz is cash strapped. Just a hint, Gina.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 2:36 pm

If Brih-nee Commando was given a sniff of any evidence given by anyone else while her own evidence was part-heard, it would be career suicide for the prosecution barristers because this can be spotted a mile away. It is very noticeable and will result in either a mistrial or a result against her, regardless of the strength of her evidence. After that will come the industry smackings and sackings for her legal team.

And what will make it infinitely easier to track is the suppression order.
The smug “well, it could have come from anywhere” line is taken out of play.
Instead of wondering which one of 20,000,000 Australians might have slipped a note under Britnah’s door in the dead of night, the JURDGE is dealing with a considerably smaller number of possible original sources of any leaked REAL EVIDENCES. Maybe 50-60 people, but probably no more than 100, tops.
For a lawyer in that room to do that would be playing three rounds of Russian Roulette with one chamber empty.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 15, 2022 2:39 pm

JC says:
October 15, 2022 at 1:31 pm
Where’s the recession looming or otherwise?
London art sales doing well.

My guess is that the mega rich are currently doing very well and are also primed to make a mozza when the recession bites.
Your average wage earner, retiree, mid-level executive, or tradie will be hit by rampaging inflation, stratospheric interest rates, a collapsing A$, and booming unemployment.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2022 2:39 pm

How much Aboriginality makes you thus? 1/16,

1/16th makes Lidia Thorpe a “proud Bullamakanka woman.”

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 2:44 pm

How much Aboriginality makes you thus? 1/16, 1/32 and etc etc.

If governments hadn’t made race a factor in the distribution of welfare and benefits it wouldn’t matter.

There should only be two factors that determine whether one gets welfare: citizenship & need.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 15, 2022 2:53 pm

New music video from Tom MacDonald – “Sheeple”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgFgnXtF9Cc

A lot of material in this one.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2022 2:55 pm

Once citizenship is a 2 class status expect a bit of argument about which door to use. Especially if one opens to riches paid for by the other lot.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 15, 2022 2:58 pm

The Diamonds netball squad is: Karen Aryang, Karen Austin, Karen Bakewell, Karen Doran, Karen Bruce, Karen Bueta, Karen Koenen, Karen Moloney, Karen Parmenter, Karen Price, Karen Proud, Karen Turner, Karen Wallam, Karen Watson, Karen Weston, and Karen Wood.

And instigator-in chief, former captain Karen Norder, who did a zoom with the players just to educate them on doing right by the sport.

JC
JC
October 15, 2022 3:00 pm

My guess is that the mega rich are currently doing very well and are also primed to make a mozza when the recession bites.

How are the rich going to make oodles through a recession.

Your average wage earner, retiree, mid-level executive, or tradie will be hit by rampaging inflation, stratospheric interest rates, a collapsing A$, and booming unemployment.

Nothing’s paradise. But the worst thing that could happen are mass layoffs and that doesn’t appear to be happening – at least not yet. 6% , and even 10% inflation is not the end of the world. However, we do have an issue there. Tradies are currently creaming it.

My point was that those two sectors I mentioned would be clocked if there was a recession coming on. The art market appears to be doing well and although JM Morgan has built reserves against credit losses the firm made close to $10 billion in net income.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 15, 2022 3:02 pm

How long before our Britnah decides to identify as an aboriginal?

Just to get on another bandwagon distraction squirrel.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 15, 2022 3:07 pm

KD:
He should never have been permitted to play the game at any level for the rest of his life, let alone return to the international team, let alone be considered for any form of leadership role.

Spot On in spades.

JC
JC
October 15, 2022 3:10 pm

This looks like the beginning of a very strange recession, Old School. It’s like nothing we’ve experienced before. Economies are getting whacked because of the war as shit like energy, some agri products and fertilizer are in short supply. I’m not even sure I would define the current price hikes as traditional inflation. An energy and some critical materials supply shock caused by the war sends prices scurrying higher is a market price signal to increase production in those things.

Bond yields are hardly a signal that we have rampant monetary inflation.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 15, 2022 3:11 pm

As far as I can see, Lehrmann has been shaky in only one area. That is, the reason for coming back to the office.

That’s as far as I can see too.
His problem is that he’s flip flopped:

Security; on the Night In Question: in for some urgent paperwork of National Importance;

CoS, after Miss Pisswreck is found floating in a sea of regurgitation: dropped in for a drink – two scotches;

Cops, two years later: in to attach tabs on a briefing note, no grog consumed.

None of this screams raping rapist. However, it also suggests truth is not a constant companion in Brucie’s life.

Not a good inference when you are relying on the steely-jawed George Washington I Can Not Tell A Lie defence.

(Particularly with a Wronged Woman screaming “You’ve ruined my life…” from the witness box.)

(And a fucking Prime Minister publicly apologising for Aussie Brinny’s terrible experience…)

I see a potential Bradbury event.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 15, 2022 3:19 pm

Anyone able to cut/paste the piece by Warren Mundine in the Oz?

Thanks in advance.

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 3:19 pm

Netball Australia could always hand Gina’s money back, with apologies.

If the second sponsor is still around they could just cover their debts and soldier on.

They could then tell the girls in the national team that henceforth they’ll each be responsible for their own expenses, supplying them with instructions on how to conduct a lamington drive.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 15, 2022 3:21 pm

How are the rich going to make oodles through a recession.

Investing now in gold and silver.
Buying devalued assets during the recession and cashing out during the upturn.
Buying put options as stock prices plummet.
Short selling.
Buying valuable businesses at rock bottom prices.
Getting on the government subsidy gravy train.

At a guess.

Makka
Makka
October 15, 2022 3:22 pm

the firm made close to $10 billion in net income.

Higher interest rates saved JPM’s bacon. Hardly an indication of a healthy business climate. And as a dealer bank, JPM will be riding at max treasury holdings, according to Yellen.

Oct 14 (Reuters) – JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM.N) reported a smaller-than-feared drop in third-quarter profit on Friday, as a rise in interest income cushioned a blow from higher loan loss provisions and a slump in dealmaking due to a worsening economic outlook.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 3:23 pm

Well with all the water around, expect the number of Japanese encephalitis cases to explode this week to 2, thus enacting fresh calls for state of emergency and to take a jab.

Barry
Barry
October 15, 2022 3:26 pm

bespoke says:
October 15, 2022 at 12:58 pm

But recent research conducted by Western Sydney University revealed that 82 per cent of parents want gender and sexuality taught to students from kindergarten.

I’d like to how the question was framed.

Just look at how the survey participants were selected:
Highly targeted advertising for respondents+ paid participants due to shortfall in numbers.
= Completely Worthless Results.

Participants

Paid advertisements via social media (Facebook and Instagram) were used to conduct targeted diversity sampling advertising in order to recruit a sample of Australian parents. We supplemented this initial volunteer cohort of n = 1579 with an additional paid sample (n = 514) recruited through Qualtrics double-opt-in market research panels in order to meet our aim of greater than 2000 participants to enable sufficient analytic power. Attempted survey completions with more than 40% incomplete data (n = 3119) and visibly patterned responses on the included multi-dimensional scale (see Measures section below; n = 9) were removed through the data screening process.

Our final sample (N = 2093) was obtained through an opt-in mechanism, as already described. Such non-probability samples have an unknown selection mechanism and cannot be used to make design-based inferences with respect to the target population (Elliott and Valliant 2017). Further, simply weighting a non-probability sample on ‘primary’ characteristics (age, gender, location) can in fact decrease accuracy across other characteristics and behaviours (Yeager et al. 2011). An alternative approach is to use a high-quality reference (probability) sample to estimate the selection mechanism for the non-probability sample and to align it as closely as possible with the probability sample on key survey items. In this survey, the nationally representative reference sample was Life in Australia™, an online probability sample of Australian adults (Kaczmirek et al. 2019). We combined the two samples and derived propensity weights from a model predicting membership in the non-probability sample, conditional on survey responses available for both samples (Elliott 2009; Rosenbaum and Rubin 1983). The propensity weights were then formed into classes (Cochran 1968) to reduce the extent of extreme probabilities. Finally, the propensity class weights were adjusted to align with the reference sample for characteristics (gender, location, language spoken at home) and substantive responses (endorsement of content in RSE curriculum) that were most different between the two samples and most correlated with the survey’s key outcome variables. The adjustment was done using regression calibration (Deville, Sarndal, and Sautory 1993) which limits variation in the weights at the same time as ensuring they align with the target population. While non-probability samples are generally not as accurate as probability samples, the derived weights reduce errors as much as possible and enable inference with respect to the target population. Thus, and most importantly, our final, weighted sample yields estimates that are as representative of Australian parents of children attending government schools as possible and which can be described as (approximately) nationally-representative. As is the case with any survey, though, some level of bias will always remain.

Speedbox
October 15, 2022 3:27 pm

Black Ball says:
October 15, 2022 at 2:31 pm

Remember back in 2018 when Elizabeth Warren claimed to be part American Indian – turns out a DNA test suggested she was 1/1024th (which barely seems possible – the dilution is huge – but there you go).

But there does need to be some limit IMO. I might agree to direct lineage 1/16 meaning a person’s great, great, great grandparent was aboriginal but beyond that, things are getting very murky as that must be some 120-130 years ago. Back in the 1890’s births were still not always registered and parentage was not recorded, particularly in rural/remote Australia. Going back even further is fraught with issues as to the accuracy of the records (if any).

Merely saying that “I’m a native Australian ‘cos my grandma told me a story about her great grandma’s auntie” doesn’t cut it.

Rafiki
Rafiki
October 15, 2022 3:27 pm

For Sanchez Panzer

This is a late reply to your query. My apologies.
If you google ‘Bruce Lehrmann show cause notice” you will see a piece by Samantha Maiden on news.com.au. it relates that Reynolds informed BL on 4 April 2019 that she was considering sacking him. He responded with what some media are calling “a grovelling”
reply on 5 April. Reynolds wrote back on the same day telling him his employment ceased that day.

I think Reynolds knew about the rape allegation on 5 April. Am I wrong?

Maiden noted that BL was unaware of the allegation until “years later”. That I find shocking, and (if I am correct) Reynolds failure to tell BL … (I had better not say). If not Reynolds, someone in the Liberals should have done so.

Rafiki
Rafiki
October 15, 2022 3:36 pm

Dr Faustian

Another joker in the pack is the summing up by Chief Justice McCallum. Trial judges are allowed latitude in expressing their own view of the facts as long as they add “In end, it’s a matter for you, members of the jury”.
An appeal court would be very reluctant to overturn a jury verdict on the ground that the trial judge crossed what is a very vague line.

Mercurio
Mercurio
October 15, 2022 3:36 pm

Pleased to advise that at the Captain’s welcome drinks almost no-one, including the Captain on stage with his senior staff, was wearing a mask in this strongly retired demographic. This in spite of his announcement as per Company policy at the start of this cruise that masks should be worn indoors.Honoured in the breach.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 15, 2022 3:36 pm

Just look at how the survey participants were selected:
Highly targeted advertising for respondents+ paid participants due to shortfall in numbers.
= Completely Worthless Results.

I’m amused by their advertising on social media. That’s like doing a web poll on the Grauniad.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 3:37 pm

Rogersays:

October 15, 2022 at 3:19 pm

Netball Australia could always hand Gina’s money back, with apologies.

If the second sponsor is still around they could just cover their debts and soldier on.

I think we all know who the second sponsor will be … us, the taxpayer.
And Elbow will have enough front to couch it in terms of “protecting the sport from political interference”.
The trouble is, these nettie players have been fed a solid diet of “You’re worth it, grrrl!” for the last decade.
There is no reason why they shouldn’t be paid as much as AFL men apparently.
Except the AFL pulls $1 billion+ a year out of TeeVee rights and Netty is on Foxtel and Kayo with no FTA coverage. Netty Straya is very coy about what the deal brings in. My betting is that it is a lowball base figure with a ratings/subscription based incentive.

John H.
John H.
October 15, 2022 3:38 pm

Barrysays:
October 15, 2022 at 3:26 pm
bespoke says:
October 15, 2022 at 12:58 pm

But recent research conducted by Western Sydney University revealed that 82 per cent of parents want gender and sexuality taught to students from kindergarten.

I’d like to how the question was framed.

Just look at how the survey participants were selected:
Highly targeted advertising for respondents+ paid participants due to shortfall in numbers.
= Completely Worthless Results.

Absolutely Barry. The methodology is appallingly stupid. The throw in a lot of fancy sounding stuff to hide the fact that at root the study is nonsense.

As is the case with any survey, though, some level of bias will always remain.

*Some* level. How precise. FFS!

Zipster
October 15, 2022 3:42 pm

It is not about health but about coercion to ensure take the next one.

The next one could program you to be allergic to meat for example, to save gaia from the ravages of human civlisation of course

Mercurio
Mercurio
October 15, 2022 3:43 pm

Help, this is Lizzie on a old app on Hairy’s iPad. Who is this Mercurio, I ask in surprise? Never seen him on da Cat. Only once, he mumbles.
We have had a superb meal in special restaurant with copious Armagnac to conclude. So don’t blame me for not looking. Silly name anyway, he should just call himself Hairy. ?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2022 3:45 pm

You suspect none of the grrrls would be too keen on a keep what you kill model based on the wide angle shots of most games. Netball actually manages to pull a few thousand, well in excess of any Sheffield Shield game.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 3:52 pm

Rafiki.
It was also reported that Lehrmann had been “fired” the week after the incident. Now whether he had been formally fired or simply suspended pending further investigation isn’t relevant. He cleaned out his desk and left the building and clearly thought he had been terminated.
And so did Britnah.
Because immediately after this is when the “on top of me” story came out to Reynolds CoS.
And why should Reynolds tell Lehrmann of the allegation? Whether she did or not is hardly relevant to the fundamentals of this case.
And, as far as employment law goes, she would have been given very clear advice not to over-egg the pudding. As a non pubic servant, he was done cold on the security breach (his second strike on such matters). A good lawyer would be advising Reynolds to stick to known facts and admissions (ie the security breach alone) and base the sacking solely on that.
Good advice, because raising rape and stolen Roses chocolates leaves it wide open to an FWA appeal.

Zipster
October 15, 2022 3:53 pm

Rare Protest in Beijing Ahead of Key CCP Meeting; China Quashes Social Media Posts About Protest
China in Focus – NTD
00:55 Rare Protest in Beijing Ahead of Key CCP Meeting
03:08 China Quashes Social Media Posts About Protest
04:32 A Year of Protests Signals Dissent in Xi’s China
07:47 How China’s Xi Amassed Power and Why It Matters
11:06 NIH Resumes Funding for Controversial Nonprofit
13:10 S. Korea Scrambles Jets as N. Korea Sends Aircraft Flying near Border
15:09 S. Korea Should Cooperate w/ Allies: Fmr Deputy FM
16:11 Expert on the Best Way the U.S. Can Help Taiwa

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 3:55 pm

Remember back in 2018 when Elizabeth Warren claimed to be part American Indian – turns out a DNA test suggested she was 1/1024th

The funny thing about that is that she turned out to have c. 50% less native American DNA than the average white American, who typically has 0.18% native American DNA according to a landmark study of American population genetics done a few years ago.

Somewhat ironically, the study was jointly conducted by Harvard UniversIty, which had for years listed Warren, a law professor at the institution, on government forms as ‘Native American’ in order to meet affirmative action targets!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 3:56 pm

Another joker in the pack is the summing up by Chief Justice McCallum. Trial judges are allowed latitude in expressing their own view of the facts as long as they add “In end, it’s a matter for you, members of the jury”.

What she must be at great pains to emphasise (assuming Lehrmann doesn’t take the stand) is that the jury can draw no conclusion whatsoever from him electing not to give evidence, and that he is fully entitled to the presumption of innocence.
If she does not say that loud and clear it will be knocked over before lunch on appeal.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 3:57 pm

It was also reported that Lehrmann had been “fired” the week after the incident.

Specifically, Wednesday 28th March 2019.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Back in the 1890’s births were still not always registered and parentage was not recorded, particularly in rural/remote Australia.

Still applied in the 1980’s & even more recently.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
October 15, 2022 4:03 pm

Britishvolt gigafactory work delayed until mid-2025

Rising energy costs have delayed major construction works at Britishvolt’s North East gigafactory, its co-founder has revealed.

Earlier this month, main contractor ISG confirmed that construction work at the site had been “paused” amid design changes to the factory, which will produce lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles.

The contractor said the decision was part of the “flexible” approach being adopted by the client, with a Britishvolt spokesperson insisting that work was “progressing ahead of schedule”.

But co-founder Orral Nadjari, who stepped down from leading the project last week, has now confirmed that the facility will open later than scheduled due to the current economic climate.

Speaking about the delay to the Financial Times, he said: “It does go hand-in-hand with the fact that we have inflation, we have recession and we have geopolitical uncertainties.

“The main facility will be delayed slightly into mid-2025.”

Nadjari, who remains the majority shareholder in the project, added that rising energy costs had forced the group to halt some activity, such as steelworks, at the site near Blyth until February.

The factory, which is being built in Cambois, Northumberland, was originally scheduled to open at the end of 2023. But this was quickly adjusted to the end of 2024.

Britishvolt confirmed to Construction News that the start date for the gigafactory had been pushed back to mid-2025 due to “rampant inflation and rising interest rates”.

Although the project is now 18 months behind original expectations, the group stressed that the ongoing work to get its product to customers was still on schedule.

Britishvolt spokesperson Ben Kilbey said: “Plans remain on track and are agile and nimble to counter external market forces.

“Considering current inflationary pressures, and an increase in interest rates, we are seeing a trend in the market of revised valuations in order to continue to attract investors.

“Our key priority is the success of the business and playing a vital role in the energy transition.”

Confirmation of another delay to the project follows a report in the Guardian earlier this month that work on the site has been “severely limited” to minimise spending because of a funding gap.

The newspaper cited leaked documents to report that the project had been put on “life support” to “minimise cash out”.

In January, the government invested £100m in Britishvolt as part of a drive to produce car batteries locally, instead of relying on foreign imports.

ISG was appointed to a £300m construction contract for the Britishvolt factory in December 2020 and began phased construction on the site in September.

At full capacity, the plant is expected to have production capability for the cells of 300,000 electric-vehicle battery packs per year. The final delivery of the factory is scheduled for 2027.

ISG was approached for comment.

bespoke
bespoke
October 15, 2022 4:07 pm

Zipstersays:
October 15, 2022 at 3:15 pm

I can relate. Friendly soft spoken millennials telling us if we don’t accept ‘new think’ we will loose access to owe grand kid.

Zipster
October 15, 2022 4:07 pm
feelthebern
feelthebern
October 15, 2022 4:08 pm

Over the past week I’ve been reading about the history of the Supreme Court.
It’s really fascinating to go into the court by court, ruling by ruling history.
There are some real villains who then pop up with a dissenting opinion.
Then you have dyed in the wool politic appointments who vote against the position their parties have brought before the court.
It is now such a formulaic, sanitised institution compared to the olden days.

bespoke
bespoke
October 15, 2022 4:11 pm

Barrysays:
October 15, 2022 at 3:26 pm

Cheers

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 15, 2022 4:17 pm

Pierce Butler was the only dissenting voice in Buck v Bell.
But before anyone thinks the guy was a saint, he was a full on Wall Street stooge & literally jumped from being an imperialist/statist to the opposite all the way through his tenure.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 15, 2022 4:21 pm

Rising energy costs have delayed major construction works at Britishvolt’s North East gigafactory, its co-founder has revealed.

Hahahaha, big battery plant to save the UK from renewables-caused high energy prices can’t afford to make batteries to firm up renewables because of renewables-caused high energy prices?
Oh the irony.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Roger says: October 15, 2022 at 3:19 pm
Netball Australia could always hand Gina’s money back, with apologies.
They could then tell the girls in the national team that henceforth they’ll each be responsible for their own expenses, supplying them with instructions on how to conduct a lamington drive.

A “how-to” video tutorial (not available on youtube) on players in a ladies sports team raising travel money (Debbie Does Dallas)could be of invaluable assistance to the team – if after rissoling Gina’s money they find themselves skint.

Don’t know how it’d compare to a lamington drive. Lamingtons have always been quite popular.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 15, 2022 4:24 pm

Bookies rejoice.

bespoke
bespoke
October 15, 2022 4:24 pm

MatrixTransformsays:

October 15, 2022 at 12:12 pm

bespoke’s MiL owns a pub?

… explains everything

Indeed! I attribute my impeccable taste an wisdom to pub life.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Indeed! I attribute my impeccable taste an wisdom to pub life.

+1

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Bespoke is surely among Australia’s leading modern philosophers.

Zipster
October 15, 2022 4:31 pm

Liz Wheeler | How ESG Locks in DEI—And What Can Be Done About It | NatCon 3 Miami

we are living in maoist style coup by fascists and their billionaire backers

bons
bons
October 15, 2022 4:33 pm

Liz Ellis – a lizard people
but not
Liz Wheeler – no no no.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 15, 2022 4:33 pm

Generic polls mean nothing DB at this stage.
State by state only for me the next three weeks or so.

Zipster
October 15, 2022 4:37 pm

Democrats 47%

who the hell are these people? suicide sheep

Anchor What
Anchor What
October 15, 2022 4:37 pm

Albanese – The Voice!
He said it took five years for the statement from the heart to take shape, 2012-2017.
Another five years to get to the present, 2022.
“If not now, when?”
Maybe never. At least wait until you’ve got it through the referendum.
As Tucker Carlson said today, the left’s moves always start with “just give us a bit of tolerance” but progress quickly to “if you resist this you are a problem”.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 4:38 pm

I would say beware of betting on an upcoming Democrat bloodbath. I have an uneasy feeling that if seats are statistically a close run affair, a few extra ballot dumps will appear to get the Democrat over the line. And the courts in those states may well decide outcomes. Just a hunch.

Anchor What
Anchor What
October 15, 2022 4:39 pm

And then, when they want to go the full leftoid destructive moves following on from “a bit of tolerance” you face cancellation or worse if you so much as express a different opinion.

shatterzzz
October 15, 2022 4:41 pm

If your into polics/spies and the ABCs of starting WW3 rolled into one then the latest KEN FOLLETT extravagana is an excellent read .. massive tome running to 816 pages .. very good plotline(s) and several “boys-own-adventures” included make for a thoroughly decent read .. rather than me decipher it .. the back cover blurb …

The new must-read epic from master storyteller Ken Follett: more than a thriller, it’s an action-packed, globe-spanning drama set in the present day.
In the Sahara Desert, two elite intelligence agents are on the trail of a powerful group of drug-smuggling terrorists, risking their lives—and, when they fall desperately in love, their careers—at every turn. Nearby, a beautiful young widow fights against human traffickers while traveling illegally to Europe with the help of a mysterious man who may not be who he says he is.
In China, a senior government official with vast ambitions for himself and his country battles against the older Communist hawks in the government, who may be pushing China—and its close military ally, North Korea—to a place of no return.
And in the United States, Pauline Green, the country’s first woman president, navigates terrorist attacks, illegal arms trading, and the smear campaigns of her blustering political opponent with careful and deft diplomacy. She will do everything in her power to avoid starting an unnecessary war. But when one act of aggression leads to another, the most powerful countries in the world are caught in a complex web of alliances they can’t escape. And once all the sinister pieces are in place, can anyone—even those with the best of intentions and most elite skills—stop the inevitable?
Never is an extraordinary thriller, full of heroines and villains, false prophets and elite warriors, jaded politicians and opportunistic revolutionaries. It brims with cautionary wisdom for our times, and a delivers a visceral, heart-pounding read that transports readers to the brink of the unimaginable.

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2022 4:42 pm

…the left’s moves always start with “just give us a bit of tolerance” but progress quickly to “if you resist this you are a problem”.

That’s certainly how they rolled the mainstream Protestant churches.

“Where orthodoxy is optional, orthodoxy will sooner or later be proscribed.”

Richard John Neuhaus

MatrixTransform
October 15, 2022 4:44 pm

Oh the irony.

don’t laugh … it had potential

Anchor What
Anchor What
October 15, 2022 4:44 pm

When will we conservatives have “a voice to parliament”?
Not looking good at the moment. The climate and energy fiasco illustrates how conservatives have been ruled out of court and no longer relevant. The former “broad church” of the Liberal Party/National Party coalition has morphed into something not very tolerant of dissenting opinions. Just ask Craig Kelly and Matt Canavan, and a few others.
Will we be told “just elect members who share your views”?
Fair enough. Doesn’t apply to everyone, though, does it?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 15, 2022 4:44 pm

The Dems still seem like they’re going through the motions. No urgency. Much complacency.

That does not bode well.

Anchor What
Anchor What
October 15, 2022 4:45 pm

Black Ball (above) is correct.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 15, 2022 4:46 pm

Woman POTUS saves the world through a combination of immaculate colour card selection, and ‘using her mother’s voice’ to settle geopolitical disputes.

The End.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 15, 2022 4:48 pm

No doubt at all that they will try the steal it.

Tom
Tom
October 15, 2022 4:50 pm

Bookies rejoice.

Bern, I backed the winner of the Everest at 20/1.

Gigakick (T: Clayton Douglas; J: Craig Williams) is a breakthrough win for this young trainer, who a few months ago had to endure the public humiliation of his trollop of a girlfriend (jockey Jamie Kah) breaking off their engagement to marry, then brag about her new sexual relationship with jockey Ben Melham on social media during a European holiday.

Sorry I couldn’t tip Cats into it, but it was highly speculative based on the three-year-old’s faultless form and Clayton Douglas’s credentials as as a trainer, which I rate highly.

Anchor What
Anchor What
October 15, 2022 4:50 pm

And I’d go a bit further – one election isn’t going to solve the problems that that past six years have exposed. The USA has a rot so deep from decades of march through (just let us do this little thing, that’s all we want) it’s going to take a lot of corrective actions to clean it out.

Cassie of Sydney
October 15, 2022 4:50 pm

“The Australian netball team is reportedly rebelling against the sponsorship of Gina Rinehart by refusing to wear new uniforms which include the Hancock Prospecting logo.

Hancock’s c. $15m sponsorship, announced this year, rescued Netball Australia from a $7m black hole incurred during the covid lockdowns.

A former team captain who called Hancock a “climate denier” has led the campaign via Zoom calls to current team members.”

I think Gina Rinehart should state, firmly and politely, that if she’s going to be smeared this way, then she can be and will be a “cash denier”. Rinehart needs to pull the dosh….pronto. Netball Australia has been struggling for a while now and without Gina’s dosh, Netball Australia will crumble. We’ve seen this happen with RA. So, once again we are witnessing the progressive politicisation of a sport by a few activists, and what will be the outcome? As with everything the progressive left touches, Netball Australia will be destroyed financially. Go woke, go broke.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 15, 2022 4:53 pm

Dover

Mid-terms are going to be a bloodbath for Dems.

Depends on the extent of the cheating/outright fraud. If the polls are in any way accurate, that will need to be overt and gross for the DemonRats to come out ahead.

m0nty-fa will, of course, deny that cheating or fraud are in any way possible, not significant even if possible, but a Republican win will be clear evidence of massive fraud and voter suppression, even if there is a high turnout.

JC
JC
October 15, 2022 4:55 pm

Higher interest rates saved JPM’s bacon. Hardly an indication of a healthy business climate. And as a dealer bank, JPM will be riding at max treasury holdings, according to Yellen.

Oct 14 (Reuters) – JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM.N) reported a smaller-than-feared drop in third-quarter profit on Friday, as a rise in interest income cushioned a blow from higher loan loss provisions and a slump in dealmaking due to a worsening economic outlook.

Go read the quarterly report. In fact, I’ll post a partial of the press release for you. Despite your gloomy opinion based on a short press blurb, the bank did well this quarter. As for spread expansion gains due to higher interest rates – that was eaten up by a loan loss provision.

Reported revenue of $32.7 billion and managed
revenue of $33.5 billion2, including $959 million of
net investment securities losses
n Credit costs of $1.5 billion included an $808 million
net reserve build and $727 million of net charge-offs
n Average loans up 7%; average deposits up 3%
CCB
ROE 33%
n Average deposits up 9%; client investment assets
down 10%
n Average loans up 2% YoY and up 1% QoQ; Card net
charge-off rate of 1.40%
n Debit and credit card sales volume5 up 13%
n Active mobile customers6 up 10%
CIB
ROE 13%
n #1 ranking for Global Investment Banking fees with
8.1% wallet share YTD
n Total Markets revenue of $6.8 billion, up 8%, with
Fixed Income Markets up 22% and Equity Markets
down 11%
CB
ROE 14%
n Gross Investment Banking revenue of $761 million,
down 43%
n Average loans up 13% YoY and up 4% QoQ; average
deposits down 6%
AWM
ROE 28%
n Assets under management (AUM) of $2.6 trillion,
down 13%
n Average loans up 8% YoY and flat QoQ; average
deposits up 10%

Return on tangible equity was 18%. If that’s an indication of an unhealthy business perhaps you need to tell us what is.

https://www.jpmorganchase.com/content/dam/jpmc/jpmorgan-chase-and-co/investor-relations/documents/quarterly-earnings/2022/3rd-quarter/c363d5ac-0a3e-483e-88ec-89767a8e266e.pdf

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2022 4:57 pm

Yes Cassie. Is there a more irrelevant sporting team on the planet than the Wallabies?
Is Folau taking his talents to one of the Pacific Island nations? Samoa I think? I love how he lives rent free in Fitzsimons’ head.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 15, 2022 5:00 pm

it’s going to take a lot of corrective actions to clean it out.

The US Military has plenty of helicopters.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 15, 2022 5:00 pm

Roger says:
October 15, 2022 at 2:18 pm

It would appear that Netball Australia teed up the Zoom call so Captain Karen (aka Sharni Norder) could give a pep talk to the team before they met NZ

Is Sharni Norder Laura’s sister?

JC
JC
October 15, 2022 5:01 pm

Old School Conservative says:
October 15, 2022 at 3:21 pm

How are the rich going to make oodles through a recession.

Investing now in gold and silver.

Recessions are marked as periods with high real rates, hardly conducive to higher prices for gold and silver.

Buying devalued assets during the recession and cashing out during the upturn.

That’s not making money in a recession though is it? That’s opportunistic buying of assets during a recession and then waiting for the upturn.

Buying put options as stock prices plummet.

Anyone can do that.

Short selling.

Same with short selling.

Shorting really works as you’re entering a recession.

Buying valuable businesses at rock bottom prices.

See further above.

Getting on the government subsidy gravy train.

Yea well, I dunno how that only works in recessions.

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