Open Thread – Weekend 5 Nov 2022


Erminia and the Shepherds, Eugene Delacroix, 1859


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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 1:19 pm

Well said, and Jerky Crunt (JC) should be banned.

Oh, I see our one-man self-appointed ‘content curation’ team has arrived for the afternoon shift.

Dot
Dot
November 7, 2022 1:19 pm

Well said, and Jerky Crunt (JC) should be banned.

Hi, erm, Faulty?

Kneel
Kneel
November 7, 2022 1:19 pm

“Biden’s fuel tweet has had the twitter “further context” tag added.”

Even better – the tweet they had on “biggest social security increase in decades” had the fact-check that this was due to CPI indexation, so therefore the result of inflation and nothing to do with the admin itself.
They deleted the tweet.
And are now being asked why they shouldn’t be sued over destruction of public records.

“Oh, the ironing!”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 1:20 pm

Dotsays:
November 7, 2022 at 1:19 pm
Well said, and Jerky Crunt (JC) should be banned.

Hi, erm, Faulty?

Yes, it has a distinct flavour of Faulty about it.

Roger
Roger
November 7, 2022 1:20 pm

I’ve read there were four.

Variously reported, but I’ve seen four counts of sexual intercourse without consent in one report.

Dot
Dot
November 7, 2022 1:22 pm

Soon if you want to have a bet in this country you’ll need a doctor’s prescription.

It’s all about creating more clients for the “care” sector and voluntarily giving up your rights (e.g., being cajoled into “mental illness” to end gun ownership and anything else regulation/prohibition fetishists find resistance to).

Arky
November 7, 2022 1:23 pm

Bucketloads of common sense, shame everything is going the other way. Why teachers quit, entitlement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKVOe5fohBY&list=PLRDlWHZcpL0gEx9nHvfwad5ALMj2UL22U&index=15
..
I heard there is a 150% teacher turnover every five years in US schools.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Oh, I see our one-man self-appointed ‘content curation’ team has arrived for the afternoon shift.

Matched by the self-appointed one-man ‘inquisitor’ always on duty to reframe another’s comment into a meaning it clearly did not have.
Already has reframed someone as “Faulty” – standard union meeting ploy to discredit an incisive comment.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 1:28 pm

Based on recent cases, the Sri Lankan chap better be prepared for 2 years in Australia.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 1:29 pm

Matched by the self-appointed one-man ‘inquisitor’ always on duty to reframe another’s comment into a meaning it clearly did not have.
Already has reframed someone as “Faulty” – standard union meeting ploy to discredit an incisive comment.

Sure.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Based on recent cases, the Sri Lankan chap better be prepared for 2 years in Australia.

Half of Sri Lanka will be trying to work out how to emulate him.
Australia insisting a Sri Lankan stay beyond the term of his visa – a dream come true for lotsa Sri Lankans.

Needs only one accomplice, a rich white lady with a hankering for Sri Lankan kransky. Too-bluddee-easy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 1:36 pm

Rogersays:
November 7, 2022 at 1:20 pm
I’ve read there were four.

Variously reported, but I’ve seen four counts of sexual intercourse without consent in one report.

In two hours.
That lets me out as a suspect.
🙁

Rabz
November 7, 2022 1:40 pm

Fetterman is being held up as a paragon despite claims that his demeanour and incoherence are the result of a stroke, rather than medication for the side effects of cannabinoid psychosis

Possibly, KD – from what I can gather he’s always been an incoherent imbecile, but appears to have hit a new low after “the stroke” (if it actually happened).

The end result is the same. The dumbocrats are running a candidate for the senate who is incapable of stringing a coherent sentence together and who is incapable of understanding what people are saying. I’d assume his reading comprehension would be somewhat suspect as well.

Which in many ways makes him a perfect candidate, especially given his domineering wife.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 7, 2022 1:40 pm

Apropos of m0nty-fa not wanting to see another world war to defeat anti-Semitism/Nazism, it seems like only a couple of weeks ago he was wanting, even demanding, a war against Wussian imperialism. The minor detail that such a war would end up as a nuclear world war didn’t seem to concern him.

rickw
rickw
November 7, 2022 1:44 pm

“We don’t pursue youth drivers as we don’t want to cause any alarm – there’s nothing worse than a crash.”

Crashes typically seem to be auto-correct.

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 1:46 pm

I don’t know if Fuckerberg has a controlling interest in Meta. If he doesn’t, I find it difficult to believe he will be able to survive a 75% stock decline, 1000’s of job losses and remain Meta CEO. If he doesn’t hold a large stake he’s likely to be gonsky.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 1:50 pm

JC, he has golden shares.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 7, 2022 1:50 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 7, 2022 at 12:17 pm
Bad Samaritan.

Should you save a dying stranger if you know they eat MEAT? Oxford philosopher controversially argues that it can be ethical to let them die because of the suffering they cause to animals (and he’s not even a vegan!) (4 Nov, via Instapundit)

Letting meat eaters drown is ethical because of the suffering they cause to animals, an Oxford University academic has controversially argued.

Dr Michael Plant, a philosopher focusing on happiness, who eats meat himself, claims that, according to some moral philosophies, it can be justifiable to let people like himself die.

Plant eats meat?

My moral philosophy is to kill people I find stupid. So according to him that’s okay. What a maroon.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 7, 2022 1:52 pm
Zipster
Zipster
November 7, 2022 1:53 pm

I don’t know if Fuckerberg has a controlling interest in Meta. If he doesn’t, I find it difficult to believe he will be able to survive a 75% stock decline, 1000’s of job losses and remain Meta CEO. If he doesn’t hold a large stake he’s likely to be gonsky.

he holds the majority of voting stock

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 1:53 pm

Next shoe to drop should be Amazon with mass layoffs. I suspect a lot of large firms will be heading their own way in terms of cloud support and Amazon, I think, is the largest or one of the largest cloud service providers. Data breaches are a huge concern now, which likely means you take care of your own stuff and don’t farm it out.

Also their online sales would have seen a drop-off since the covid lockdowns.

As for Google, it may see job losses , and they have a hiring freeze, but they’re likely to be well cushioned as I think it’s the best run of the lot.

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 1:54 pm

he holds the majority of voting stock

Does he? Then the stock heads lower. 🙂

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 7, 2022 1:56 pm

British coppers finally getting off arses?

The leader of Just Stop Oil was arrested for reportedly planning large-scale blockades to bring traffic to a stand-still on the M25 today.

Roger Hallam, 56, and two other eco-activists were taken in for questioning by Met police last night, The Sun reported.

Mr Hallam was not at home when the police raided his property to arrest him, but they later said he had been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit public nuisance.

The eco-group carried out an entire month of action over October and were planning daily action until Christmas.

Mr Hallam, who also co-founded Extinction Rebellion said: ‘It’s potentially the most significant act of civil disobedience in decades.’

Daily Mail

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 1:56 pm

feelthebern says:
November 7, 2022 at 1:50 pm

JC, he has golden shares.

Bern, then loss of confidence can be expressed through a huge stock tanking then?

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 1:58 pm

Tesla has one class of share, meaning shareholders can give Elon the boot if they want.
Even if 100% of Meta non-voting shares moved against Zuckerberg, it means nothing.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 7, 2022 1:59 pm

Arkysays:
November 7, 2022 at 1:23 pm
Bucketloads of common sense, shame everything is going the other way. Why teachers quit, entitlement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKVOe5fohBY&list=PLRDlWHZcpL0gEx9nHvfwad5ALMj2UL22U&index=15
..
I heard there is a 150% teacher turnover every five years in US schools.

Isn’t there a 30% turnover in Aus schools Arky. I saw that figure somewhere recently. Maybe its was only 30% of new graduates but even that is pretty high.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 2:01 pm

JCsays:

November 7, 2022 at 1:54 pm

he holds the majority of voting stock

Does he? Then the stock heads lower.

I think Atlassian has a similar structure with the Messiah twins holding the voting stock.
The others sort of hold non-voting preference shares … without the preference.

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 7, 2022 2:01 pm

Daytime Sky is taking a dim view about Musk laying off Twitter staff, and seems happy with the activists pressuring advertisers to “wait until his plans for twitter are made clear”.
The previous management certainly made their modus operandi clear, and it was no problemo for our mostly left leaning media. No concern there at all.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 2:02 pm

would someone let monty know that there is a spare place in the guillotine queue for 4:30.
we should be able to squeeze him in.

But he already has no dick.

Also in: Clickbait headlines, have they gone too far

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 7, 2022 2:04 pm

especially given his domineering wife.

And what’s wrong with that? When she puts the leathers on and gets out the whip. Oops, did I just say that out loud.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 2:04 pm

Inflation adjusted, it took Apple $US1.4bill to get the first iphone to market.
Apple has then funded each iteration of the iphone from that divisions cash flow.
That is enormous discipline.

Compare that to Meta who has ripped up $US25bill on this metaverse adventure to date.
Zero discipline.

Gabor
Gabor
November 7, 2022 2:06 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
November 7, 2022 at 12:49 pm

Melbourne’s Crown Casino slapped with $120m fine for ‘failing to prevent harm’ (Sky mainpage headline)

Soon if you want to have a bet in this country you’ll need a doctor’s prescription.

Almost, just got an email from Tab corp, that in the future they will send me a monthly activity report.
As if I didn’t know what state my account is in + you can look it up anytime.
Can’t opt out, must be a PS directive, more people employed and soon the takeout increases.

We can’t win

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 2:08 pm

I think Atlassian has a similar structure with the Messiah twins holding the voting stock.
The others sort of hold non-voting preference shares … without the preference.

Other than a massive tank, how else to shareholders express lack of confidence in situation where the CEO has control? They can be persuaded to leave obviously.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 7, 2022 2:11 pm

Ha ha.

Well said, and Jerky Crunt (JC) should be banned.

Rotten is JHM.

Winston Smith
November 7, 2022 2:12 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

W.S. He’s setting them up for the next demarkation line – $1024/month but only if you are Secret Squirrel Cleared.

That’s still less than the fifteen grand they were sucking off the gullible.

But the next progression will be $2048 for 0ne month of Super Dooper Secret Squirrel Alpha + Cleared.
After that you get robes and running shoes and a meeting with destiny currently hiding behind the moon and ready for the latest eclipse.
I really shouldn’t have to spell this out for youse guys!
🙂

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 7, 2022 2:12 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
November 7, 2022 at 1:36 pm
Rogersays:
November 7, 2022 at 1:20 pm
I’ve read there were four.

Variously reported, but I’ve seen four counts of sexual intercourse without consent in one report.

In two hours.
That lets me out as a suspect.

What did he do for the other 1 hour and 52 minutes.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 7, 2022 2:13 pm

Roger at 10.52:

Can’t be long before someone seriously suggests that dating app profiles include which sexual perversions a young and naive (or drunk and stupid) woman will or won’t entertain.

Too late. Waaaay too late.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Anchor What says: November 7, 2022 at 2:01 pm
Daytime Sky is taking a dim view about Musk laying off Twitter staff, and seems happy with the activists pressuring advertisers to “wait until his plans for twitter are made clear”.
The previous management certainly made their modus operandi clear, and it was no problemo for our mostly left leaning media. No concern there at all.

LOL. Until last week modus operandi was fine with thousands of “rape Melania” tweets, pictorial jokes of the aftermath of decapitation political leaders, etc.

With that in mind, the boycotting advertisers should start explaining what it is they’re concerned about?

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 2:17 pm

Largest shareholder in Meta.

The Vanguard Group, Inc.
Fidelity Management & Research Co…
BlackRock Fund Advisors
SSgA Funds Management, Inc.
T. Rowe Price Associates, Inc.
Capital Research & Management Co….
Geode Capital Management LLC
Capital Research & Management Co….
Capital Research & Management Co….
Norges Bank Investment Management -5.73%
Top 10 Mutual Funds Holding Meta Platforms Inc

Vanguard Total Stock Market Index…
Vanguard 500 Index Fund
Fidelity Contrafund
American Funds Growth Fund of Ame…
Invesco QQQ Trust
Government Pension Fund – Global …
SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust
Fidelity 500 Index Fund
iShares Core S&P 500 ETF
Vanguard Growth Index Fund

Zipster
Zipster
November 7, 2022 2:19 pm

Myocarditis, good news
Dr. John Campbell
Conclusions

Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with myocarditis (aHR 1.08)

Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with pericarditis (aHR 0.53)

We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 2:19 pm

On their ABCcess his morning had professor McGorrie (?) the mental health chap.

Government banked on a 25% increase in mental illness as a result of the Covid depredations.

They ended up with a 50% increase.

Think about that for a moment.
In order to “save” people from the flu x 2 they knowingly and willingly caused tens of thousands of cases of mental illness.

Forgive and forget?
Nyet.

Oh come on
Oh come on
November 7, 2022 2:21 pm

What’s the deal with Atlassian? I hadn’t heard of their software products before reading of their stock price slump. How did they come to be valued so highly? Do they cater to high margin niche industries or is it a case of the market realising the promise it saw failing to materialise?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 2:22 pm

Teal wrangling pays well.

Teals’ record cash splash revealed by electoral commission
James Massola

The top 10 biggest-spending independent candidates at the 2022 federal election splashed $11.5 million on their political campaigns, which delivered a record number of lower house crossbench MPs.

The Australian Electoral Commission on Monday published its disclosure returns for candidates, Senate groups and election donors, which largely covers independent MPs, as well as details of donations to political candidates.

Allegedly big-Spender racked up 2 mill.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 7, 2022 2:23 pm

JC, he has golden shares.

Isn’t that what they accused Trump of with Hunterian Russian hookers?

Hang on.

Never mind.

But Zuckerberg is a very strange fellow. He always seems to be mimicking what humans do without understanding why they do it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 7, 2022 2:23 pm

“On November 2, they met for prearranged drinks, had something to eat and went back to the young lady’s home,” Det Supt Doherty said.

It is there at that police allege Gunathilaka sexually assaulted the woman four times between 11.30pm and 1.30am.

As mentioned upthread, this is a ‘drinks on Wednesday, scrumpy on Saturday’ arrangement.

Injured players in the squad are NOT excused from attending team meetings or training sessions, let alone matches. They have to be there, in the gear, and seen to be supporting the players as part of the broader playing group, representing their country etc.

Sri Lanka didn’t play a match on 2 November, which was the Wednesday drinkies. It’s therefore wildly plausible that he ran the ‘I have to see my Auntie from the old country’ line.

On Saturday 5 November though, Sri Lanka played England at the SCG. A day-nighter, as well. Given that you don’t get leave passes for matches, especially not for the swipe-right variety – whether or not this went the way the lady tells it, that dude is in a whole pile of hurt.

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 2:24 pm

Atlassian Corporation Plc

Atlassian Corporation Plc, through its subsidiaries, designs, develops, licenses, and maintains various software products worldwide. Its products include JIRA, a workflow management system for teams to plan, track, collaborate, and manage work, and projects; Jira Service Management, a service desk product for creating and managing service experiences for various service team providers, including IT, legal, and HR teams; Jira Align for enterprise agile planning; Opsgenie, an incident management tool that centralizes alerts and notifies right people at right time; and Statuspage for incident communication. The company also provides Confluence, a remote-friendly team workspace used to build, organize, and collaborate on work virtually for team content creation and sharing; and Trello, a collaboration product, that manages projects, organizes tasks, and builds team spirit for capturing and adding structure to fluid, fast-forming work for teams. In addition, it offers Bitbucket for code sharing and management; and various other products, such as Atlassian cloud apps, Bamboo, Crowd, Crucible, Fisheye, Halp, Sourcetree, and Statuspage. Atlassian Corporation Plc was founded in 2002 and is headquartered in Sydney, Australia.

Tom
Tom
November 7, 2022 2:25 pm

Compare that to Meta who has ripped up $US25bill on this metaverse adventure to date.
Zero discipline.

Why is Mark Zuckerberg rich? Because he knew how to write HTML code at the dawn of the internet age.

His only skill is feeding HTML code into a computer and, having cornered that opportunity, he thought up an idea called Spacechook that capitalised on children’s desire to make themselves the centre of their universe, also known as narcissism.

To pay for the idea, he turned it into a data-mining operation without the knowledge of its users.
Zuckerberg has no skills apart from his ability to write HMTL code a and inventing a highly unethical business plan to steal personal information from Spacechook users.

Spacechook required no business skills or ethics. That he has behaved like an undisciplined teenager should come as no surprise.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 2:27 pm

W.S. He’s setting them up for the next demarkation line – $1024/month but only if you are Secret Squirrel Cleared.

Hes playing the longer game.

How much do you think the IDs of those who paid $15,000 to be on twatter are worth to Nigerian scammers?

Arky
November 7, 2022 2:28 pm

Isn’t there a 30% turnover in Aus schools Arky. I saw that figure

..
Don’t know GR.
We aren’t as bad as the US yet, but the trends are all the same way throughout the anglophere.
Bring back child labour I say.

Oh come on
Oh come on
November 7, 2022 2:29 pm

Zuck’s Metaverse has to be one of the dumbest ideas around. But he seems to have oriented the entire company around it going forward. Probably a good thing. Meta is a sinister company. If it goes the way of AOL, the world would be a better place.

m0nty
m0nty
November 7, 2022 2:32 pm

The answer to bad speech is good speech.
If you ban them, they will go to their underground echo chamber and be worse.

As long as they stay in their underground echo chamber, I don’t see much of a problem.

Also LOL at a Cat complaining about an echo chamber… on the Cat (echo echo echo).

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 2:32 pm

Meta is a sinister company. If it goes the way of AOL, the world would be a better place.

I can’t recall who it was -perhaps Google etc. One or a few large tech firms blocked Facebook’s access to private data and the rest is history. I suspect the Metaverse bullshit was an attempt to move past that. He tried but it’s now deadsky.

Oh come on
Oh come on
November 7, 2022 2:33 pm

Atlassian Corporation Plc

Oh, right. It offers work-from-home platforms, and the gloss is coming off the whole wfh phenomenon.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 7, 2022 2:34 pm

Mr Hallam was not at home when the police raided his property to arrest him, but they later said he had been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit public nuisance.

I’m all for closing my eyes and gunning g it when these loons shut down roads but ‘suspicion’ of planning a future crime is a rather low bar that will hurt ‘enemies of the state’ like myself in the future.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 2:36 pm

I can’t recall who it was -perhaps Google etc. One or a few large tech firms blocked Facebook’s access to private data and the rest is history

It was Apple.

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 2:37 pm

Oh, right. It offers work-from-home platforms, and the gloss is coming off the whole wfh phenomenon.

Work from home destroys productivity. Low productivity means lower real incomes and it can’t be any other way. Unless this shit turns around, GDP growth in the West is going to be a fraction of what it was.

If people choose to work from home income has to reflect the partial drop in productivity.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 2:38 pm

Apple, Google (Alphabet) & Microsoft all control their ecosystems.
fb (Meta) does not.
That’s why the bet on this metaverse idea, to create a fake ecosystem that they control.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 2:40 pm

Work from home destroys productivity.

It sure does.
Most staff need be in a room together to learn from each other.

m0nty
m0nty
November 7, 2022 2:40 pm

Next shoe to drop should be Amazon with mass layoffs. I suspect a lot of large firms will be heading their own way in terms of cloud support and Amazon, I think, is the largest or one of the largest cloud service providers. Data breaches are a huge concern now, which likely means you take care of your own stuff and don’t farm it out.

Bezos was photographed on NYE in a silly shirt with his arm around his mistress looking like Kirk Van Houten from the Simpsons. Apart from that, I haven’t heard that he or the company have make many dud moves.

Also their online sales would have seen a drop-off since the covid lockdowns.

Doubt it, overall consumer demand has been strong and online is only growing. Part of the problem with supply chain bottlenecks is overheated post-COVID demand.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 7, 2022 2:41 pm

Largest shareholder in Meta.

The Vanguard Group, Inc.
Fidelity Management & Research Co… BlackRock Fund Advisors

Vanguard, Blackrock and Fidelity, behind the public front companies, own EVERYTHING (media, business, independent fact checkkers, everything. This is how they coordinate all the scams ,eg the Vax campaign.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 2:41 pm

As long as they stay in their underground echo chamber, I don’t see much of a problem.

Maybe in their beercellars?
Howd that work last time?

You unhistorical imbicile with no penis.
https://www.thefire.org/news/blogs/eternally-radical-idea/would-censorship-have-stopped-rise-nazis-part-16-answers

A 1922 law passed in response to violent political agitators such as the Nazis permitted Weimar authorities to censor press criticism of the government and advocacy of violence. This was followed by a number of emergency decrees expanding the power to censor newspapers. The Weimar Republic not only shut down hundreds of Nazi newspapers — in a two-year period, they shut down 99 in Prussia alone — but they accelerated that crackdown on speech as the Nazis ascended to power. Hitler himself was banned from speaking in several German states from 1925 until 1927.

In this 1920s cartoon by Philipp Rupprecht, Hitler is depicted as having his mouth sealed with tape that reads “forbidden to speak.” The text beneath this image reads, “He alone of two billion people on Earth may not speak in Germany.”
Far from being an impediment to the spread of National Socialist ideology, Hitler and the Nazis used the attempts to suppress their speech as public relations coups. The party waved the ban like a bloody shirt to claim they were being targeted for exposing the international conspiracy to suppress “true” Germans. As one poster explained:
Why is Adolf Hitler not allowed to speak? Because he is ruthless in uncovering the rulers of the German economy, the international bank Jews and their lackeys, the Democrats, Marxists, Jesuits, and Free Masons! Because he wants to free the workers from the domination of big money!

Zipster
Zipster
November 7, 2022 2:42 pm
Oh come on
Oh come on
November 7, 2022 2:47 pm

Yes, I believe you’re right – I think it was both Google and Apple that ratfucked Zuck by blocking some key source fb products used to mine user data off of hand-held devices. Some computer nerd will know more about it than me.

Not that anyone should thank Google or Apple – they’re both as creepy as hell, and deliberately hoover up so much personal data about individual users to know them better than they know themselves. They just cut Zuck out of the action.

Apple is, I think, the creepiest of them all. It monitors its users more forensically than any other big tech company. Why would it do this? Its business model isn’t reliant on selling the data it collects, unlike Google. Well…there is one shadowy 3rd party with the deepest pockets of all that could be Apple’s only customer for its data.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 2:48 pm

The view has now done the rounds a few times so who knows who originated it, but Meta would have been better off buying one of the games developers/platforms & housing it’s metaverse bet in that.
It would have leveraged existing ecosystems instead of what their doing.

rickw
rickw
November 7, 2022 2:48 pm

We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection.

Does this lay the uptick in incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis at the feet of vaxes?

Dot
Dot
November 7, 2022 2:51 pm

A 1922 law passed in response to violent political agitators such as the Nazis permitted Weimar authorities to censor press criticism of the government and advocacy of violence. This was followed by a number of emergency decrees expanding the power to censor newspapers. The Weimar Republic not only shut down hundreds of Nazi newspapers — in a two-year period, they shut down 99 in Prussia alone — but they accelerated that crackdown on speech as the Nazis ascended to power. Hitler himself was banned from speaking in several German states from 1925 until 1927.

Correct – like I said before, they were in power in 1933 with absolute power in 1934.

monty, let this be a teaching moment.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 2:51 pm

Apple is, I think, the creepiest of them all.

Apple Health is revolutionary.
Will bankrupt the private health insurance market.

Oh come on
Oh come on
November 7, 2022 2:58 pm

Apple, Google (Alphabet) & Microsoft all control their ecosystems

My understanding is that MS platforms are the best for privacy purposes as they need to be capable of running on huge networks with high levels of network admin control. The kinds of data-collection features built into iOS and Android that can’t be disabled would be deal-breakers for MS’s biggest clients.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 2:59 pm

Speaking of Apple Health, I checked my resting heart rate and it was 82-83.
I’ve been drinking a coffee for the last 20mins and now it’s up to 94.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 3:01 pm

OCO, I think it’s also that Microsoft don’t collaborate with other parties to the extent that Apple and Google do.

Winston Smith
November 7, 2022 3:03 pm

Rosie:
Are those BDS idiots at it again? My waistline still hasn’t recovered from the last round of support I gave for Max Brenner in 2011.
And I got a thank you from those nice young soldiers for the pizzas but I’ve lost the card in my travels…

If the BDS are setting up for another go, just put a link via Catallaxy Files and I’m sure we will use it as an excuse for more chockies.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 3:06 pm

Speaking with people who have worked in many start up ecosystems, they viewed the M12 (Microsoft) ecosystem as the hardest but most rewarding to work in.

m0nty
m0nty
November 7, 2022 3:06 pm

Far from being an impediment to the spread of National Socialist ideology, Hitler and the Nazis used the attempts to suppress their speech as public relations coups. The party waved the ban like a bloody shirt to claim they were being targeted for exposing the international conspiracy to suppress “true” Germans.

You lot read this and conclude that we really need to hear the Nazis out this time. Oh dear.

Yes, German leaders severely underestimated the Nazis. We needn’t make the same mistake again with the benefit of hindsight.

Winston Smith
November 7, 2022 3:10 pm

Sancho Panzer:

In how many public debates (SSM, Israel Folau, climate change, you name it) did they have their thumb on the scales, suppressing anything counter to the left narrative?

All of them.

cohenite
November 7, 2022 3:15 pm

Opposing oppression is not anti-Semitic.

Israel does not oppress anyone; and in fact supports the rights of dickless, fat turds.

Oh come on
Oh come on
November 7, 2022 3:18 pm

Apple Health is revolutionary.

It’s just one more piece in the puzzle for total centralised control. You don’t think this will be synced with Apple Pay? Remember that ‘computer says no’ skit? Well, this is how you get ‘computer says no’ for real. Sorry, you can’t purchase that red meat product – your blood pressure has been too high over the past month.

Also, put that full strength slab back in the fridge. Based on your calculated alcohol consumption rate, you will be exceeding the healthy daily standard drinks intake if you purchase that at this time. You can swap it for a low-carb midstrength if you like. For your reference, here are the dates when you will be permitted to purchase the following kinds and quantities of alcoholic beverages…

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Imagine what could be done by controlling what you spend to ensure you maintain a healthy lifestyle. But I’m sure they’d never go down that path – give big tech open access to your most private and sensitive information. I’m sure they won’t misuse it, and imagine the convenience!

Winston Smith
November 7, 2022 3:19 pm

Bruce O’Newk:
Should you save a dying stranger if you know they eat MEAT? Oxford philosopher controversially argues that it can be ethical to let them die because of the suffering they cause to animals (and he’s not even a vegan!)
So there you have it, straight from the arses mouth. “If I judge you not worthy of living because you believe differently to me, I will stop emergency services from saving your life.”
This is how Extermination Camps for humans get their start.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 3:25 pm

You lot read this and conclude that we really need to hear the Nazis out this time. Oh dear.

You dishonest moronic no dicked shit.

No we are stating it would be better for good debaters of whatever stripe expose and ridicule the stupidity of nazi ideals over and over again.

Let them have their shitty soapbox and try and defend their shitty ideas.

Better to have a withered appendage of a ‘BUF” than censorship.

m0nty
m0nty
November 7, 2022 3:28 pm

No we are stating it would be better for good debaters of whatever stripe expose and ridicule the stupidity of nazi ideals over and over again.

Dunno about you mole, but I am tired of talking to them and about them. Do we have to defeat them every damn day? How much is enough? They never stop unless they are stopped. That already happened in 1945. Do we have to go over and over it?

dopey
dopey
November 7, 2022 3:29 pm

Abbey’s Bookshop Magazine.
Gunyah, Goondie and Wurley.
The Aboriginal Architecture of Australia. Paul Memmott.
This difinitive guide to Indiginous architecture has been updated with new chapters and a foreward by Marcia Langton. It’s the most comprehensive book on the subject and a must-have for anyone interested in architecture or Indiginous studies. Richly illustrated, it covers everything fron north-eastern rainforest villages, mud domes of the Lake Eyre basin, spinifex houses of the western desert to contemporary Aboriginal architecture. A monumental work. Hb $120.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 7, 2022 3:32 pm

fat turd

AKA furd

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 7, 2022 3:32 pm
Oh come on
Oh come on
November 7, 2022 3:33 pm

When it comes to anything vaxx-related, “it’s even worse than you think” has pretty much universal application.

Well, perhaps not in the case of those who claim the vaxxes will have killed off most of the population by 2025. Then again, I’m not totally confident it wouldn’t apply to them, either.

Oh come on
Oh come on
November 7, 2022 3:34 pm

m0nty is too stupid to waste your time on, folks. Seriously. He’s a lost cause.

Winston Smith
November 7, 2022 3:35 pm

Zipster:

Should you save a dying stranger if you know they eat MEAT? Oxford philosopher controversially argues that it can be ethical to let them die because of the suffering they cause to animals (and he’s not even a vegan!)

we really are in a moral void

No, Zipster. They are.

Dot
Dot
November 7, 2022 3:36 pm

Yes monty, Nayzees like Doh’nald Drumph. We get it. Betray the Dems or ALP, you’re basically Satan.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 7, 2022 3:38 pm

Bruce of Newcastle at 12:49 – Crown and Star the greatest example of regulatory capture since APRA and the banks. Tens of millions evaporated every year for nothing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 3:40 pm

JC at 2:24.
None of what is described there is in any way special, and from various Cats with exposure to Atlassian and similar products, it doesn’t seem to have any particular whizz-bang smarts over and above it’s competitors.
They have oversold the “collaboration” bullshit to death at board and CEO level.
A little parable about collaboration.
I used to work for a large global project management and engineering firm. Some bright spark came up with the idea that any of the 40,000 employees worldwide could message a project team with an idea for their project.
40,000 brains are better than one, right?
Project staff had, as part of their bonus KPIs, a requirement to respond within 48 hours.
Except it meant that the HR chick in Sydney could message project staff in Canada, Kenya or the Pilbara about how she read on Mamamia that gender diversity improves project performance by 15% and what were they doing about it.
This resulted in us losing several highly sought after PMs after they refused to sign on to that KPI.
After six months the scheme was gonski.
I think this is what Atlassian “collaboration” means.
Everyone sticking their nose into shit they know nothing about.

cohenite
November 7, 2022 3:43 pm

Abbey’s Bookshop Magazine.
Gunyah, Goondie and Wurley.
The Aboriginal Architecture of Australia. Paul Memmott.

Covers the same territory as Jolliffe.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 3:45 pm

feelthebernsays:

November 7, 2022 at 2:40 pm

Work from home destroys productivity.

It sure does.
Most staff need be in a room together to learn from each other.

And it is amazing to sit in an office trying to reconcile the corporate plan with what you see and hear the Indians really doing.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 7, 2022 3:45 pm

Based on recent cases, the Sri Lankan chap better be prepared for 2 years in Australia.

At least we haven’t run out of petrol (yet). Affordability might be an issue depending on his contract.

Zipster
Zipster
November 7, 2022 3:51 pm

No we are stating it would be better for good debaters of whatever stripe expose and ridicule the stupidity of nazi ideals over and over again.

Let them have their shitty soapbox and try and defend their shitty ideas.

the problem is they lie and then they use force to maintain and consolidate power

Mater
November 7, 2022 3:51 pm

but I am tired of talking to them and about them. Do we have to defeat them every damn day? How much is enough? They never stop unless they are stopped.

Can I confidently suggest that nearly every despot and authoritarian in history (including the Nazis) expressed an almost identical sentiment about their ‘enemy’.

You really are a turkey voting for Christmas.

calli
calli
November 7, 2022 3:51 pm

Thanks Cats for all the comments on the VW contretemps. Lots of food for thought. In retrospect, I jumped the gun in the re-sale. Rather than accepting the dealer’s despicable trade-in valuation for a new Golf, I ended up selling the Passat wagon through Car Sales for considerably more.

And…a young Central Coast family got a beautiful, low mileage vehicle for a bargain price.

Had I hung onto it, the whole lunacy would have blown over.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 7, 2022 3:53 pm

I have a solution to the Alice Springs car theft problem.

Tell the locals Constable Rolfe has been assigned to permanent night shifts.

rickw
rickw
November 7, 2022 3:54 pm

That already happened in 1945. Do we have to go over and over it?

Yes, because fat fucking idiots like you label any position you disagree with as Nazism.

Roger
Roger
November 7, 2022 3:58 pm

World leaders…

Carbon ‘Big Foots’: Aussie billionaires top emitters

Atlassian co-founder Mike Cannon-Brookes and mining magnate Andrew Forrest top the list of Australians on a global ranking of billionaires with the biggest carbon footprint.

The Oz, 4h ago.

Lysander
Lysander
November 7, 2022 4:07 pm

Hey Cats
what time (say, Perth time) will midterm results start coming through and when?

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 7, 2022 4:09 pm

m0nty-fa

You lot read this and conclude that we really need to hear the Nazis out this time. Oh dear.

You and your ilk read that statement and say “How can we debate these fascists, and defeat them in the court of public opinion, when the public can see clearly that the gap between us and the Nazis is millimetres wide.”

Winston Smith
November 7, 2022 4:11 pm

Mother Lode:

But Zuckerberg is a very strange fellow. He always seems to be mimicking what humans do without understanding why they do it.

Good description.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 4:13 pm

November 7, 2022 at 3:51 pm
Thanks Cats for all the comments on the VW contretemps. Lots of food for thought. In retrospect, I jumped the gun in the re-sale. Rather than accepting the dealer’s despicable trade-in valuation for a new Golf, I ended up selling the Passat wagon through Car Sales for considerably more.

Which means opportunistic dealers were just suppressing trade-in prices and John Citizen didn’t give a rats.
The biggest factor running against re-sale now is the price of diesel. The differential between diesel and ULP has flipped over the last ten years.
I maybe could have paid cesh for our new car and wrung a bit more out of Carsales, but couldn’t be bothered.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 4:15 pm

Only 1,500 comments in a bit over two days.
This place is circling the plughole and I think we all know why.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 7, 2022 4:16 pm

m0nty-fa

Dunno about you mole, but I am tired of talking to them and about them. Do we have to defeat them every damn day? How much is enough? They never stop unless they are stopped. That already happened in 1945. Do we have to go over and over it?

Change the date to 2022, and normal people could say the same about communists. You know, the ones who started mass murder before the Nazis, and continued it long after the Nazis were defeated, even unto the present day. And you and your ilk utter not a word of condemnation,

Now bugger off and enlist for the (nuclear world) war against Wussian imperialism that you were demanding, before you went all pacifist.

PS, how many Nazis have you met face to face to talk to them, and teach them reality?

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 7, 2022 4:31 pm

Lysander, result should start coming in after 7am Perth time or so. That’s when polls close.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Amazing what you find in links:

Top Ender says: November 7, 2022 at 1:52 pm
Lord Lucan still alive and living near Brisbane?

Lord Lucan aside, about halfway down Top Ender’s linked article, is a reproduction of the front page, 12th November 1974, The Daily Mail.
Beside the Lord Lucan story is a large photograph accompanying a story of an actress being sacked from a Broadway play Love for Love on the first night.

Sacked was Scots actress Mary Ure, whom some may remember as the hotter than ten pistols female lead in Where Eagles Dare.
She was the wife of Robert Shaw, likely remembered by many here for being the ‘mark’ in The Sting, & the panzer officer in Battle of the Bulge, and the shark fisherman in Jaws (3rd man in the scene with Richard Dreyfus & Roy Schieder “we’re gonna need a bigger boat”.)

Why was she sacked?
The cover story reported in the article is she “didn’t communicate with the audience”
She lived only another Five months, drinking herself to death & making sure of by getting drunk & overdosing.
Cats may draw their own conclusion as to why she was sacked.

The at the time insignificant twist: Her role in Love for Love was taken over by the understudy, described in The Daily Mail as “a 22 year old college student”

Glenn Close.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Only 1,500 comments in a bit over two days.
This place is circling the plughole and I think we all know why.

Total mystery.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 4:38 pm

Dunno about you mole, but I am tired of talking to them and about them. Do we have to defeat them every damn day? How much is enough? They never stop unless they are stopped. That already happened in 1945. Do we have to go over and over it?

Much like the dickhead specter of Communism, the “war” (in debate terms) is never over.
Once you cease the war of words you are left with what idiots do, repression, censorship and a spiral into ever ratcheting up surveillance and punishment.
Far better to keep having the argument over and over.

The “right” after Regan made the terrible mistake of thinking once Commie Russia was cactus and all its awful shit was exposed no-one would be stupid enough to hanker after it. So it was no longer necessary to debate/ridicule and make odious the ideas of communitards. Which led to rebrandings and repackaging of shit ideas. (largely under the green banner)

There are pockets of sub-normals who simultaneously think repression of their enemies by any means is legitimate, and also think it cant be used against them by those enemies.

Lysander
Lysander
November 7, 2022 4:38 pm

7am on Wednesday morning???

Lysander
Lysander
November 7, 2022 4:38 pm

(Thanks Eyrie)

cohenite
November 7, 2022 4:45 pm

Only 1,500 comments in a bit over two days.
This place is circling the plughole and I think we all know why.

I’m not insulting head prefect enough: that always gets the crowds in.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 7, 2022 4:46 pm

So what is Monty saying? That the arguments of the Nazis were so convincing and unanswerable that the only defence against them is never to hear them?

Or is he conceding that having a government control what is not reported, what is, and how it is reported (a la Goebbels) is a surefire way to find yourself trapped in a Nazi headlock?

I wonder what we should do about communists and socialists, whose headcount sadly dwarves that of the Nazis and is still being added to even to this day?

Mater
November 7, 2022 4:51 pm

Between this:

Dunno about you mole, but I am tired of talking to them and about them. Do we have to defeat them every damn day? How much is enough? They never stop unless they are stopped.

And this:

m0nty
#2275181, posted on January 26, 2017 at 1:21 pm

yes, it is always correct to punch Nazis. They lost the right to not be punched in the face when they started spouting genocidal ideologies that in living memory killed millions upon millions of people.

Well said, that man.

Perhaps Monty should watch this:

Are we the baddies?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 7, 2022 4:52 pm

headcount sadly dwarves that …

Not sure that headcount works in this case. Dozers in forests and all that.
Missing?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 7, 2022 4:52 pm

Cats may draw their own conclusion as to why she was sacked.

Stigma attached to alcoholism by an unfeeling puritanical public – patriarchy writ on a death certificate.

Whiteness too.

Were it not for that she could yet be a tottering bibulous ornament to the stage.

Ah, the bottle. The love that dare not (often cannot) speak its name!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Mother Lode says: November 7, 2022 at 4:52 pm

Well done!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 4:57 pm

From the AFR (Chanticleer):

Atlassian’s drubbing shows big tech’s big problem

The staggering fall in the software company’s share price on Friday shows how the business is being hit by the same headwinds buffeting the technology sector.

You can’t accuse Mike Cannon-Brookes and Scott Farquhar of not living up to their values.

The foundations of workplace software giant Atlassian have long espoused an “open company, no bullshit” mantra at the NASDAQ-listed giant, and its September quarter update was refreshingly honest about the way the macroeconomic environment is hitting the business.

Atlassian’s Mike Cannon-Brookes and Scott Farquhar say they are prepared for the downturn.  David Rowe

Free subscriptions to their products, which help teams become better organised and more efficient, are failing to convert to paid ones as frequently as they previously did. And existing paid subscribers aren’t adding as many new users as they once did.

In their analyst call on Thursday night after the market had closed, Cannon-Brookes and Farquhar emphasised their belief that underlying demand and their competitive position remained strong. And they said their experience in starting the company just after the dotcom crash, and surviving the global financial crisis, gives them confidence they can win market share from weakened competitors and hire top talent let go by other tech giants.

“Turbulent markets provide an opportunity to shake up the leaderboards, and we are poised to play offence in this environment,” the pair’s letter to investors says.

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But Atlassian will be playing offence as a much smaller company after Friday night saw the stock plunge a staggering 29 per cent, even worse than Thursday night’s after-market trade suggested.

Atlassian shares are now off 65 per cent for the year, which is almost double the fall in the benchmark tech index, the Nasdaq Composite. And it’s not a million miles from 2022’s biggest tech disaster, Meta, whose shares are off 73 per cent.

Rising interest rates are poison

Atlassian is suffering from the same headwinds as its big tech counterparts.

First, rising interest rates are poison for highly valued tech firms, because they increase the rate by which the market discounts future profits.

With rates likely to keep rising in the US well into 2023, there seems little chance of a change in investor sentiment. Even giants like Alphabet (down 40 per cent this year), Amazon (down 46 per cent) and Apple (down 24 per cent) have gone from being places for investors to ride out the market storm to stocks to be wary of.
But now tech stocks are experiencing the second-order effect of rising interest rates: a slowing economy.

Tech investors have switched from putting a premium on growth to putting a premium on sustainable earnings, which had already let tech companies to tighten their belts by trimming costs and staff.

But as interest rates start to bite, the economy slows and demand slips, the job of becoming profitable or growing profits is going to be harder. Tech companies will likely be forced to cut costs harder, which is bad news for the companies that provide services to them.

So, Atlassian finds itself in the worst of all worlds. Not only is it still unprofitable, but its revenue growth has weakened, and will probably weaken further as its customers feel the pain from the macroeconomic environment.

Those future profits its investors were banking on seem even further away. And that’s why sentiment shifted hard and fast on Friday night.

Farquhar and Cannon-Brookes are right in that Atlassian is well placed to ride out a downturn. First, it has experience of managing through lean periods in a way that companies born after 2012 don’t.

Second, its products are relatively inexpensive and as close to an essential service as you can get in tech.

Third, the broad tailwind of companies trying to become more digital and more efficient could well accelerate at a time like this, as firms try to do more with less. That should underpin demand.

The billionaire duo have made it clear they don’t worry about money, and are instead guided by an ambition to build a company that can outlast them, and live for 100 years. As such, there’s no doubt the long-term play is to try to use a tricky moment like this to grow.

But in an environment when investors can barely envisage the next 100 days, profits will count for more than lofty ambitions. And that’s no bullshit.

Kind of touched on the problems but gives the Messiah twins a bit of a free pass.
Bought into the line that it is “sector wide” problems (err, why has it fallen twice as far as the tech index?).
As for them telling it straight with no bullshit?
Spare me.
And their software being “close to an essential service”?
FMD.
Their letter to shareholders was fucking pure unadulterated tripe. Not one number or a hint of a plan throughout the whole thing. Just cliches like “headwinds” and “we’ve toughed it out before” and “shake up the leaderboard”.
But I guess there are no harbour cruise Christmas cocktails for a Sydney journo who puts the boots into the Messiah Brothers

Lysander
Lysander
November 7, 2022 4:59 pm

Alannah MacTiernan resigning from politics in 7 weeks.

MAY THE FARMERS REJOICE!!!!

shatterzzz
November 7, 2022 5:00 pm

Hey Cats
what time (say, Perth time) will midterm results start coming through and when?

Most of Yankee Land is a day behind us so voting Wednesday .. should see results starting to come thru after midnight Wednesday ……

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 7, 2022 5:03 pm

Alannah MacTiernan resigning from politics in 7 weeks.
MAY THE FARMERS REJOICE!!!!

Staff at the local Liquorland won’t be so happy.

mem
mem
November 7, 2022 5:05 pm

Atlassian co-founder Mike Cannon-Brookes and mining magnate Andrew Forrest top the list of Australians on a global ranking of billionaires with the biggest carbon footprint.

Don’t tell me that the technothug Cannon-Brookes that’s bought one of our major coal mines to close it down because of so-called climate Armageddon and the green hydrogen promoter Twiggy Forest, are each bigger emitters than mining magnate, Gina Reinhardt? Blow me down with a feather!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 5:06 pm

Only 1,500 comments in a bit over two days.
This place is circling the plughole and I think we all know why.

You will ban my links when you pry them from my cold, dead hands…

Dot
Dot
November 7, 2022 5:07 pm

Lord Lucan eh?

“My software has never been wrong, mathematical FACT!”

Um?

Mater
November 7, 2022 5:09 pm

Amazing how monty got many of you to argue about Nazism as if Ye or the other fella were promoting Nazism.

Not promoting Nazism, Dover, just that which Monty labels as Nazism…which could be damned near anything, certainly everything he doesn’t agree with.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 5:11 pm

dover0beach

Because extreme mongnitude of saying free speech is equal to supporting nazis needs to be smacked around and not left as a Montyfact*

*Not a fact.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 7, 2022 5:12 pm

yes, it is always correct to punch Nazis.

So, is a Nazi someone who has joined the Nazi party and actually killed people? Or is it used as a synonym for people with a morbid fascination in that event in history and just talks big? Or some skinhead who needs to think his skin colour makes him important because without that belief he will be stuck with the fact he isn’t.

How many people that you call Nazis have perpetuated the evil deeds that you use to justify punching them? Is it guilt by association?

My suspicion is that, if Monty were to take a swing at a neo-Nazi or a skinhead, it would not go well for him. They do seem a physical lot to compensate for their lack of cerebral heft, and with hair-trigger tempers. They might not be able to count past 2, but they can beat people up. (I am sure Monty would agree with that characterisation.) So, if someone with the physique of the Michelin Man when his tyres are down to about 2 psi were to take a swing at one of these brutish savages – what does anyone think the final outcome would be.

Why would you engage someone in a physical contest if you think their weakness (and your supremacy) resides in the intellectual? Once they win and you lose on their terms, you still have to try to contest with them on yours, but by then six of your teeth are already in the gutter and anyone watching would see you as just desperately trying for ‘best out of three’.

What person confident in the moral and intellectual truth of their convictions would opt for a physical confrontation.

I think someone here is a moronic thug posing as an intelligent person but instinctively resorting to their moronic thuggish nature.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 7, 2022 5:13 pm

Gunyah, Goondie and Wurley.
The Aboriginal Architecture of Australia.

Not on my to get list – waiting for the one out soon: Australian Spacecraft of the Dreamtime: how 60,000 years of indigenous technology inspired the Apollo missions

JMH
JMH
November 7, 2022 5:15 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
November 7, 2022 at 2:11 pm

Ha ha.

Well said, and Jerky Crunt (JC) should be banned.

Rotten is JHM.

Back up this allegation or apologise!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 7, 2022 5:17 pm

Australian Spacecraft of the Dreamtime: how 60,000 years of indigenous technology inspired the Apollo missions

Australian Agriculture of the Dreamtime: How the Australian Aborigine invented broad-acre, minimum till, mechanized agriculture.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 5:18 pm

November 7, 2022 at 4:45 pm
Only 1,500 comments in a bit over two days.
This place is circling the plughole and I think we all know why.

I’m not insulting head prefect enough: that always gets the crowds in.

Not sure that is it.
Others are taking up the slack.
Although, to be fair, their insults lack the incisive eloquence of yours.
Carry on.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 5:20 pm

JMHsays:
November 7, 2022 at 5:15 pm
Knuckle Draggersays:
November 7, 2022 at 2:11 pm

Ha ha.

Well said, and Jerky Crunt (JC) should be banned.

Rotten is JHM.

Back up this allegation or apologise!

Why are you jumping in to defend JHM?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 7, 2022 5:23 pm

This one’s for West Australian Cats. Good riddance….

McGowan’s captain pick to stand down
Staff writers
STAFF WRITERS

Outspoken West Australian Labor minister Alannah MacTiernan has called time on her 34-year career, which included a stint in federal politics.

Ms MacTiernan, 69, said she had “learnt to live with high stress levels” during her career – which also included local politics and 13 years in various ministerial roles – and that it was time for the next generation to take over.

“It’s time for me to pass on the baton,” she told reporters on Monday.

The Minister for Regional Development and Agriculture said she told Premier Mark McGowan before the 2021 state election she would only serve two years in parliament.

“That’s her call; that’s her decision,” Mr McGowan told reporters.

There were very few people who had achieved what she had during her time in politics, he added.

Mr McGowan said Ms MacTiernan was always kind, uplifting, unstoppable, passionate and hardworking.

She also often had a unique analysis of situations and people, he said.

“Alannah’s one of those people you can’t help but like,” he said.

m0nty
m0nty
November 7, 2022 5:28 pm

They do seem a physical lot to compensate for their lack of cerebral heft, and with hair-trigger tempers. They might not be able to count past 2, but they can beat people up.

Not sure what evidence you are using to make this conclusion, but I haven’t seen much of it.

Modern neo-Nazis are mostly weedy Anglo-Saxon untermenschen with delusions of grandeur. That’s often why they become neo-Nazis, because they have literally nothing else going for them except their skin colour.

Remember when a bunch of them got sprung in a van in Idaho near a pride rally? Their mugshots are instructive – hardly exemplars of their race.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
November 7, 2022 5:28 pm

Top Endersays:
November 7, 2022 at 5:13 pm
Gunyah, Goondie and Wurley.
The Aboriginal Architecture of Australia.

I’ve got to say that empty cardboard wine casks (with the silver pillows still inside) and stacked into a dwelling type shape, should offer considerable thermal insulation. That is definitely ahead of its time.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 5:33 pm

Modern neo-Nazis are mostly weedy Anglo-Saxon untermenschen with delusions of grandeur.

Is it time to post a couple of pics from The Men of Devil Bend GC calendar?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 5:34 pm

m0nster’s definition of “weedy” = anyone with a BMI under 35.

m0nty
m0nty
November 7, 2022 5:35 pm

So, is a Nazi someone who has joined the Nazi party and actually killed people? Or is it used as a synonym for people with a morbid fascination in that event in history and just talks big? Or some skinhead who needs to think his skin colour makes him important because without that belief he will be stuck with the fact he isn’t.

On the rare occasions when neo-Nazis have been punched in recent times, they are not sitting in the privacy of their mum’s basement playing on Xbox. They are out in the world actively being a neo-Nazi, by agitating for and arguing for their sick, twisted beliefs. When they are doing that, they are fair game in my eyes.

Would I encourage Paul Pelosi-style home invasions to hit Nazis on the head with a hammer? No. If they are out and about spreading their vileness, yes they should be punched in the head.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 5:36 pm

Election Wizard ??
@ElectionWiz
BREAKING: Patrick Basham, the pollster who correctly predicted Brexit and Trump 2016 says midterm “Red Wave” is forming into a full-on “Red Tsunami.”

It would be great if Trump said nothing about 2024 before Tuesday night.

Zipster
Zipster
November 7, 2022 5:39 pm
JMH
JMH
November 7, 2022 5:43 pm

Why are you jumping in to defend JHM?

Childish prat.

The blowflies are piggy-backing each other again.

Zipster
Zipster
November 7, 2022 5:43 pm

They are out in the world actively being a neo-Nazi, by agitating for and arguing for their sick, twisted beliefs. When they are doing that, they are fair game in my eyes.

ie BLM and antifa

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Punching randoms in public.
What could possibly go wrong?

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 7, 2022 5:46 pm

Mother Lode

m0nty-fa’s fragile state of health is such that he personally does not do the Nazi punching. He sub-contracts that task to the fascists of Antefa, and cheers them on from the lounge room side of his TV set.

Zipster
Zipster
November 7, 2022 5:53 pm

Elon Musk is the white hat Trump
DarkHorse Podcast Clips

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 7, 2022 5:53 pm

Only 1,500 comments in a bit over two days.
This place is circling the plughole and I think we all know why.

The new guy isn’t following your directions?

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
November 7, 2022 5:55 pm

Only 1,500 comments in a bit over two days.
This place is circling the plughole and I think we all know why.

Why?

calli
calli
November 7, 2022 6:00 pm

The “comment” comment might just have been sarcasm.

calli
calli
November 7, 2022 6:01 pm

Lol Dover.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 7, 2022 6:03 pm

Would I encourage Paul Pelosi-style home invasions

Monty makes an assumption based on his political views, not the evidence from the night.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
November 7, 2022 6:04 pm

Ok

Lysander
Lysander
November 7, 2022 6:04 pm

Come Wednesday/Thursday – I expect there to be much chanting, cheering and commenting.

Expect 10,000 comments! 😛

Munt – you’re going to get so sick of #winning!!!!

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 7, 2022 6:05 pm

she told Premier Mark McGowan before the 2021 state election she would only serve two years in parliament.

So what you’re saying is that she lied to the electorate by letting them assume they were electing her for a full term.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
November 7, 2022 6:09 pm

Mr McGowan said Ms MacTiernan was always kind, uplifting, unstoppable, passionate and hardworking.

She also often had a unique analysis of situations and people, he said.

“Alannah’s one of those people you can’t help but like,” he said.

Seems to have forgotten that she has been pissed for the last 10 years! She drinks like Nancy!

Makka
Makka
November 7, 2022 6:09 pm

Would I encourage Paul Pelosi-style home invasions

The only invasion that night was the one Pelosi was planning on the orifice of his rentboi guest.

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 6:11 pm

Munt – you’re going to get so sick of #winning!!!!

The senate is where they will try and cheat.

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 6:15 pm

We’re heading off O/S soon and got a script for anti-virals. Doc warned they’re $1200 for about 50 tablets. FMD.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 6:17 pm

Would I encourage Paul Pelosi-style home invasions to hit Nazis on the head with a hammer? No. If they are out and about spreading their vileness, yes they should be punched in the head.

Note the weasel wording segueing from an assault with a hammer to a ‘punch in the head’.

Monty: free speech is violence.
Also Monty: My sides violence is free speech.

Id defend a rabid, frothing anti semite standing on a soapbox from a proto-monty wanting to hit them with a hammer. Not because I support the frothing loon, but because there is a clear demarcation between idiotic speech and physical violence.

Similar to doing the same vs some idiot spouting beardie weirdie or leftist shit.
Speech is not violence.
You think that way then you are down the slope of “its justifiable to do ‘x” to prevent your speech”..

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 6:18 pm

Boy, talking to a lot of people and can’t find anyone who is voting for the Hunchback. I’m pretty sure it’s because of the people I’m asking though.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 6:22 pm

I’m pretty sure it’s because of the people I’m asking though.

Have you tried graveyards?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 7, 2022 6:24 pm

As already mentioned – the Hammer of Hawthorn on Nazis:

If they are out and about spreading their vileness, yes they should be punched in the head.

By someone else.

Because should mUnter actually punch these people in the head, it would no doubt encourage them to take over the whole country.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 7, 2022 6:25 pm

Jeff Kennett weighed in last night, talking about himself.
That should be worth a few Seats for Labor.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 7, 2022 6:26 pm

WA Liars have got no one when Sneakers goes. He has already made himself Premier and Treasurer, exactly like Emperor Barney did when Porter left for the green pastures of Canberra. Not sure people will wear Rita Saffioti as Premier. That said, the Lieborals are a decade and 3 elections away from even being competitive.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 7, 2022 6:27 pm

If they are out and about spreading their vileness, yes they should be punched in the head.
What about if they’ve got Eggshell Skull and the punch kills them?
Is it still okay?

MatrixTransform
November 7, 2022 6:27 pm

We fought a World War over this

mUnty, your’e a clown

cohenite
November 7, 2022 6:35 pm

Remember when a bunch of them got sprung in a van in Idaho near a pride rally? Their mugshots are instructive – hardly exemplars of their race.

Which one is you dickless. On second thoughts they all look too fit.

Roger
Roger
November 7, 2022 6:37 pm

BREAKING: Patrick Basham, the pollster who correctly predicted Brexit and Trump 2016 says midterm “Red Wave” is forming into a full-on “Red Tsunami.”

That would explian the Democrats trying to run away from its landfall, policy by policy.

Of course, nobody shoulod believe them.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 7, 2022 6:39 pm

Foreign cricketer Danushka Gunathilaka will remain behind bars after he was charged with the sexual assault of a Sydney woman but he has the “full support” of the Sri Lankan high commission.

The international cricket star, 31, appeared at Sydney’s Downing Centre Local Court on Monday via audio visual link from Surry Hills Police Station after he was arrested at a Sussex St hotel in the city’s CBD about 1am on Sunday.

Detectives from the State Crime Command’s sex crimes squad and Eastern Suburbs Police Area Command began a joint investigation following allegations a 29-year-old woman was sexually assaulted.

Mr Gunathilaka was arrested in the early hours of the morning and taken to Surry Hills Police Station where he was charged with four counts of sexual intercourse without consent.

He was refused bail to appear at Parramatta Bail Court on Sunday, but the court papers did not make it and he spent another night in custody on remand as the matter was moved to Monday morning.

He wore thongs, dark blue jeans and a grey T-shirt when he faced Downing Centre Local Court on Monday.

He held his head down as he heard a police prosecutor tell the court she would be applying for an interim non-publication order over the bail hearing.

The result was granted and the court was closed to the public for legal reasons.

Magistrate Robert Williams refused Mr Gunathilaka’s bail, meaning he will spend the next two months behind bars on remand until the matter is next before the court in January.

Defence lawyer Ananda Amaranath told media outside court that he wanted the court to remain open.

“The magistrate made the order the court be closed,” he said.

Mr Amaranath said his client was “disappointed” by the result.

“He will be disappointed clearly … but we have to accept the decision,” Mr Amaranath said.

“He has the full support of the Sri Lankan high commission and the cricket board.”

During a police press conference on Sunday, Detective Superintendent Jayne Doherty from the child abuse and sex crimes squad said Mr Gunathilaka and the woman allegedly matched on a dating app.

She told reporters they communicated on various platforms, including video calling, before meeting up.

A crime scene examination was undertaken at the address on Saturday.

It is understood the rest of the Sri Lankan team has already flown home without Mr Gunathilaka.

“The male is being supported by the Sri Lankan consulate,” Superintendent Doherty said.

Oz

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 7, 2022 6:40 pm

We fought a World War over this

The East and the West strive toward different objectives.

The maps after the war bear this out.

MatrixTransform
November 7, 2022 6:40 pm

Dunno about you mole, but I am tired of talking to them and about them

you’re insane you fucking marshmallow

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 7, 2022 6:41 pm

A Katherine man who fatally shot a home intruder earlier this year has been sentenced.

Kim Jamie Keith Kellett, 39, will remain behind bars until at least January of 2024, after pleading guilty to a downgraded charge of manslaughter when he faced Darwin Supreme Court.

Family and friends crowed into the courtroom, shouting their support as Kellett arrived.

He was sentenced to four years and 10 months in jail and this was backdated to March 17.

The sentence will be suspended from January 17, 2024.

Kellett was living in a ranger’s cabin with his wife and young son near the Cutta Cutta Caves Nature Park, about 30km south of Katherine, when the killing happened.

On March 16, a 26-year-old man approached the house and let himself inside.

Kellett’s wife Danielle went into the kitchen to make a bottle for their two-year-old daughter.

It was then she spotted the intruder, who was wearing boxer shorts and was covered in grass.

Her screams woke Kellett.

The court heard Kellett rushed into the kitchen, telling the man to “f*** off”, before chasing him out of the house and locking the door.

At 4.08am, Ms Kellett rang triple-0.

She said she was sitting with a gun, telling the operator: “Hurry up mate because he’s gonna get shot. Mate, my kids are here.”

After hearing noises outside, Kellett took the .308 bolt-action rifle from his wife and ventured outside.

He walked three metres to the corner of the concrete at his front entrance, shouldered the rifle and shot down the driveway.

A bullet went into the victim.

At 4.36am, a police officer arrived on the scene to find the dead man lying on his back.

As Kellett approached the officer he was heard to say: “Oh, s*** – I only just fired a warning shot”.

Justice John Burns called the shooting “highly reckless”.

Justice Burns said the presence of an intruder would understandably cause “a very real fear”.

“We cannot know why the deceased entered your home, dressed as he was, in the middle of the night,” Justice Burns said.

“You did not know the deceased, you did not know anything about his background, all you knew was he was a person who entered your home in a partially undressed state.

“The conduct of the deceased was clearly of the nature that would cause a very real fear in your mind both as a resident of the dwelling and as a parent.

“Your act of raising the rifle to your shoulder and firing in circumstances where you thought the noise may have been made by the deceased was nevertheless highly reckless.”

Justice Burns called the incident “out of character” for Kellett, stating the Crown accepted he “did not intend to cause serious harm” to the intruder.

“The present offence is out of character for you,” he said.

“I am satisfied that you are basically a decent man who made a very poor decision in difficult circumstances on the night in question.

“The Crown accepts that you did not intend to cause the death of or serious harm to the deceased.”

cohenite
November 7, 2022 6:42 pm

Sample stories from latest Geller:

Democrat Political Violence Rages Against Republican Candidates, Staffers, Volunteers
“BROKEN”: House Republicans Release Whistleblower Report on DOJ Abuses [Full Report Here]
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If You’re White and Fork Over $85,000, This Prestigious University Will Teach You to Hate Yourself

cohenite
November 7, 2022 6:45 pm
calli
calli
November 7, 2022 6:48 pm

The outpouring of grief for Cassius is a tragic reminder that too many First Nations Australians have died as the result of violence.

That’s why the Senate Inquiry into missing and murdered First Nations women and children is so important.

Careful what you wish for. You might find the results…inconvenient.

miltonf
miltonf
November 7, 2022 6:49 pm

When I think about pelosi trash and the cretins what vote for the dirty old woman, the mafia princess, I think another earthquake would be a damn good thing.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 7, 2022 6:50 pm

A Katherine man who fatally shot a home intruder earlier this year has been sentenced.

Should have got a medal.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 7, 2022 6:51 pm

In all fairness – and speaking as a person who has never been in the situation and so cannot declare what ‘normal’ behaviour would be, but I would expect a warning shot to be significantly above the plane where another person might be.

You would be shooting up into the air.

But maybe that is the situation in cases like this: you are not trying to do what the Hollywood movies would have you do. Maybe your instinct is to scare the blue cheeses out of people by firing close to them. It being more frightening than popping off a shot toward the Southern Cross.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 7, 2022 6:53 pm

Careful what you wish for. You might find the results…inconvenient.

I expect the Senate would be most careful to ensure this would not occur.

johanna
johanna
November 7, 2022 6:54 pm

I was struck by the cop’s comment after a rampage of stolen vehicles and property damage worth hundreds of thousands of dollars that ‘a crash is the worst possible result’ (or similar, I haven’t copied it.)

Here’s the thing. As long as those kids know that this is your mindset, nothing will change. They know that in a game of chicken, you will always back off.

Of course a lot of them will die due to what happens when kids try to impress their mates and girlfriends and siblings by hurtling around in stolen cars at high speed with no concern that the cops will try to stop them. Hoo-wee!

As for Alice Springs, the state of paralysis about what is happening seems to show no sign of resolution. First the ideologues closed off The Rock, now they are letting the town turn into a slum which you might find in rural Nigeria.

But, it’s Inclusive!
There are several taxpayer funded operatives there to prove it!

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 7, 2022 6:54 pm

Warning shots are considered in some situations to be a waste of time.

ADF in the Iraq war were not permitted to use them. Fire to defend yourself if you had to – aim at the body mass.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
November 7, 2022 7:01 pm

After nearly 3 years I have finally caught the Rona. Sore throat, lack of energy and some nose blockage. I’ve had it for 3 days so hopefully it clears in the next 2 or so.

Lysander
Lysander
November 7, 2022 7:04 pm

I’m sure you’ll bear it. 😛

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
November 7, 2022 7:08 pm

Boom Tish!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

A Katherine man who fatally shot a home intruder earlier this year has been sentenced.

I feel for him, & for his family.
It’s not as if the dear departed was minding their own business at home when someone turned up & shot him dead.
The dear departed was intruding into someone’s home, &.. .. how to say this?…. was intruding not in the manner of a stranded motorist requiring a fan belt or to use the phone, nor a backpacker who has managed to get free of a kidnapper.

If only he could have been sentenced in Texas.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
November 7, 2022 7:16 pm

Warning shots are considered in some situations to be a waste of time.

Warning shots are a good way to waste valuable ammunition…
You either shoot to kill, or don’t shoot at all.
There is no in between.

calli
calli
November 7, 2022 7:18 pm

They just can’t let it go. Just appeared in my news feed:

The grandchildren of Omicron have landed in Sydney. What does it mean for Christmas?

Go away you stupid, panic mongering numbats. Go play in the traffic.

calli
calli
November 7, 2022 7:19 pm

I learned in PNG that if there’s an intruder in the house you shoot to kill them. Unfortunate, but there it is. You only get one go.

Razey
Razey
November 7, 2022 7:20 pm

A Katherine man who fatally shot a home intruder earlier this year has been sentenced.

Lesson. Never ever call the cops. Bury them in the backyard. Who is going to know?

miltonf
miltonf
November 7, 2022 7:20 pm

The meja get a bit more disgusting every day. Prestitutes is too kind.

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