Open Thread – Weekend 19 Nov 2022


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Zipster
November 19, 2022 12:32 pm

Biden promises to veto

Senate Votes Overwhelming To End Covid Emergency
The Jimmy Dore Show

Zipster
November 19, 2022 12:33 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 12:37 pm

Bill Gates at work.

Flushing toilets aren’t the solution to South Africa’s sanitation problem (18 Nov)

South Africa is a water scarce country that has faced extreme weather events in recent years. For example in 2018 Cape Town faced severe drought and the possibility of running out of water. More recently, the east coast city of Durban was hit by floods which damaged bulk water and sanitation infrastructure. With the country’s challenges around water management and availability, it’s just not feasible and viable to continue with waterborne sanitation.

The government is so useless they can’t supply water…okaaay I get it.

Instead of your waste going from your toilet via a sewer to a treatment works offsite, this technology treats your waste onsite and allows the treated outputs to be safely reused or disposed of. … Pictured here is one of the reinvented toilets funded by the Gates Foundation. The HTClean, developed for a single household, uses a vacuum flush evacuation mechanism thus. This reduces the water required to 0.2-0.9 litres per flush. The urine and faecal matter are mechanically separated at the back end and treated by high temperature and high pressure processing. The treated liquid output is reused for flushing.

You should see the diagram of the toilet. Oh wow. This bird (for she’s a she) wants to install a chemical process plant in people’s houses, and thinks this is just fine for impoverished Sowetans.

The disconnect between these people and reality is something to behold.

Delta A
Delta A
November 19, 2022 12:38 pm

Happy Men’s Day, boy Cats.

Relax, enjoy yourself and don’t think about leaky taps, mowing grass, cleaning cars, painting etc etc. It’ll all be there for you tomorrow. 🙂

rickw
rickw
November 19, 2022 12:40 pm

the majority of Australians are absolute fkwits

Quite so.

Zatara
Zatara
November 19, 2022 12:42 pm

Senate Votes Overwhelming To End Covid Emergency

Biden promises to veto

The Senate only managed 62 votes to end it. It takes a 2/3 majority (67 votes) to override a Presidential veto.

On the other hand, the original vote was very low-profile as any publicity it might have had was overwhelmed by coverage of the the mid-terms. IMO it would pass easily if it is put up again with no distractions and increased public awareness.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 19, 2022 12:47 pm

Relax, enjoy yourself and don’t think about leaky taps, mowing grass, cleaning cars, painting etc etc. It’ll all be there for you tomorrow.

Get a man in…

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 12:47 pm

Basic life skills appear to have bypassed many academics.

LOL. They can always phone Uber Delivery from their Ivory Towers.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 19, 2022 12:49 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
November 19, 2022 at 10:39 am
How odd. m0nty=fa disappeared after his stupid comment on the “broad” Catholic Church.

Of course he disappeared. It’s Saturday morning. He’s been dragged off by the little finger to Spotlight to look at throw cushions and assorted curios.

Sorry KD, I misread that as “dragged off by the little thing ..”

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 12:57 pm

Dotsays:
November 19, 2022 at 12:22 pm
But Crypto is not an Investment. It is for Traders and Speculators. There is nothing backing the electronic digits apart from faith, hope and charity.

What an incredibly incorrect comment from the fraudster booster.

Well, Dottie, put your money where your mouth is with such a great “investment” and pile in and good luck. BTW, Martin Armstrong is so right about Crypto Scams (Ponzi Schemes) and I agree with him.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 19, 2022 1:00 pm

The fall of the yeomanry poses a major threat to representative democracy. Once again, history provides a precedent. In Imperial Rome, small farmers and artisans

Small and medium businesses, farmers, tradies, skilled workers = the modern yeomanry.

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 1:02 pm

Sex is a part of nature. I go along with nature.

– Marilyn Monroe

m0nty
m0nty
November 19, 2022 1:06 pm

“Catholicism is a broad church” Only if you are listening to the current pope.

LOL

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 19, 2022 1:07 pm

m0nty=fa

What is your “broad church” opinion on the Muslim attitude to women’s rights?

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 19, 2022 1:08 pm

“It wuz them over there that did it, honest!”

Alec Baldwin sent a series of text messages in the days and weeks following the fatal Rust shooting to the widow of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins who was killed, suggesting an act of sabotage might have been the cause.

The details are contained in 551 pages of documents released by a New Mexico sheriff’s office on Friday as part of his investigation into the fatal shooting on the set of Western movie Rust.

A state prosecutor is still deciding whether to press criminal charges.

Daily Mail

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 1:09 pm

BTC has been around since 2008, started at zero, now worth 24k USD each.

The value is in the proof of work.

It can be used just like any other currency and is legal tender in Japan.

Martin Armstrong went to gaol for 11 years for fraud.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 1:11 pm

All things being equal, US will be in recession next year.

Factor in at least 8% inflation (and its probably twice that), unless the economy ‘grew’ by over 8% last year, its ALREADY in recession, as is ours, and has been for some time.

Razey
Razey
November 19, 2022 1:11 pm

the majority of Australians are absolute fkwits

BOOM! There it is. The truth fully revealed.

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 1:13 pm

Dotsays:
November 19, 2022 at 1:09 pm
BTC has been around since 2008, started at zero, now worth 24k USD each.

The value is in the proof of work.

It can be used just like any other currency and is legal tender in Japan.

Martin Armstrong went to gaol for 11 years for fraud.

So put your money where your Gob is and buy the shite and get rich. So easy apparently.

Razey
Razey
November 19, 2022 1:14 pm

The value is in the proof of work.

The true value is cost of production. ie $/kWh + computing capex. My limited understanding is that unless one has free power, BTC production is not economic at current value.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 1:16 pm

A state prosecutor is still deciding whether to press criminal charges.

Wow, after 13 months and a body!

The AFP managed to arrest me, stack on more bogus charges, book a court date, have all four of their witnesses (3 were AFP Officers) agree tightly on their ‘curiously’ impossible story, go through a 3 day trial and (hopefully – pending next week) have it done and dusted in under 10 months. They must be extremely thorough and rigorous in the US.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 1:21 pm

Razey

That means that it might have found its true value. If it keeps on reverting to a mean then you can safely assume that mean is a true mean.

It (good coins like BTC and ETH) will always have an upside given how fiat is being endlessly devalued.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 19, 2022 1:22 pm

Rovers Football Club are having their reunion this weekend. Couple of the old boys are in the pub now reminiscing and chatting.
I was only a snotty fourths player when they folded at the conclusion of the 1990 season. But the seniors were looked upon as gods.
So a dinner will be held tonight and the traditional barrel tomorrow.
First side in the Kerang District League, which I am sure Knuckle Dragger knows well, to win the seniors, reserves and thirds to win the flag the same year, a feat matched by Hay in 1995. My first year of seniors. A real eye opener against those blokes

Makka
Makka
November 19, 2022 1:23 pm

its ALREADY in recession

With UE doing so well , no it’s not yet a traditional recession. But it’s getting there. The coming 6 mths of UE numbers, especially U6 .

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/U6RATE

As close to real as it gets IMO.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 1:24 pm

Making money on a trade and concluding an asset has a positive value are two different things, just like a profitable company may be a poor yielding asset.

This isn’t rocket science, but this apparently is also extremely offensive to some of the slower children.

Razey
Razey
November 19, 2022 1:25 pm

Leftism in Victoria is now full bore Fascism. Victoria has fallen. Yet nothing is done, or can seemingly be done.

https://twitter.com/HankMeyerNAPP/status/1593706850892926976?cxt=HHwWgMCiufz7_Z0sAAAA

Razey
Razey
November 19, 2022 1:27 pm

just like a profitable company may be a poor yielding asset.

BCN on the ASX is a classic. Money making machine, but keeps getting belted down.

Zatara
Zatara
November 19, 2022 1:29 pm

Bless ya flyingduk, but you aren’t a rich, self-centered, loudmouthed, socialist, Trump-hating, “movie star”, under investigation for a gun crime in a heavily leftist leaning state.

It’s a minor miracle that his case wasn’t swept deeply under the rug months ago.

Best of luck to you next week!

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 1:29 pm

The value is in the proof of work.

If you think about it, ALL money is backed by a ‘proof of work’ system.

This started back in time with barter – you swapped one physical thing for another. That physical thing had a certain degree of effort or energy ’embedded’ in it. If it was food, you ate it to provide your body with energy. Similarly if it was wood, you could burn it, or if it was something that had been made, it had the relevant labor and material inputs ‘stored’ within it.

At first. this didn’t change with the invention of money (particularly gold and silver) because these too were physical things which required work to produce – they were still ‘proof of work’ systems.

This all fell apart with the invention of money unbacked by this proof of work. With paper money, and then electronic money, you could ‘produce’ more money without the need to embed the work into it. This allowed the explosion of fiat currency quantity and is a prime cause of the inflation we see today.

Bitcoin was intended to be a digital form of money using electricity as the proof of work input. Embedding electricity within its manufacture does not, per se, give it value, but it does prevent whatever value it has being inflated away by ‘unbacked’ production, as with paper currency.

Ultimately, the value of anything is what someone else will give you for it. At present this is about $24,000 AUD. This value being based upon what it can do for the owner, presently including acting as a censorship resistant, seizure resistant, debasement resistant store of value and instantaneous payments system for transferring value 24/7 anywhere in the planet.

You might like to argue that such a system has no ‘underlying value’ because it is not physical, but this flies in the face of the market capitalisations of Visa, Paypal, Western Union etc etc etc. Clearly, payment networks have utility and therefore must have value. BTC is no different.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 1:33 pm

The true value is cost of production. ie $/kWh + computing capex. My limited understanding is that unless one has free power, BTC production is not economic at current value.

It self adjusts – lower prices/higher production costs mean the less efficient producers go out of business, just the same as gold and silver miners did back in time.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
November 19, 2022 1:34 pm

Dotsays:
November 19, 2022 at 12:22 pm
But Crypto is not an Investment. It is for Traders and Speculators. There is nothing backing the electronic digits apart from faith, hope and charity.

What an incredibly incorrect comment from the fraudster booster.

Well, Dottie, put your money where your mouth is with such a great “investment” and pile in and good luck. BTW, Martin Armstrong is so right about Crypto Scams (Ponzi Schemes) and I agree with him.

But he was right. The idiot claimed crypto was backed by nothing, yet not only is fiat money not really backed by anything particularly tangible, you can counterfeit it, unlike crypto.

That’s not to say there aren’t massive scams, but it’s still early days. New tech always gets ahead of itself due to overenthusiasm by humans, but is typically understated in the long term.

Wait until the dust settles and see what happens.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 1:40 pm

Dot says:
November 19, 2022 at 12:27 pm

Michael Burry is very short!

H/T George Gammon.

Good luck. The put call ratio, which in this case would indicate market sentiment, is very bearish.

Bluey
Bluey
November 19, 2022 1:40 pm

Imagine my amusement, in the land of danandrewstan and no african gangs, when I trundle into the city to find there’s an African cultural festival on in federation square. With at least 20 cops and half a dozen cars staged behind the square, next to the carpark.

Otherwise the freedom rally looked to get an ok turnout, despite the predicted pouring rain and storms. Reckon at least a few hundred, but I know nothing about judging crowd size.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 1:42 pm

That’s not to say there aren’t massive scams, but it’s still early days. New tech always gets ahead of itself due to overenthusiasm by humans, but is typically understated in the long term. Wait until the dust settles and see what happens.

Correct, but it aint all that early. I bought my first BTCs in 2015 as a hedge against government tyranny – no shit, and it was under $800 AUD at the time. I didnt buy it as an investment, I bought it as insurance. In my case, it turned out to be both, At least, in our brave new world of medical dictatorship, I have an asset that exists totally outside our increasingly co-ercive monetary system. Of late, that is proving quite a comfort.

rosie
rosie
November 19, 2022 1:43 pm

I’d like to see a debate between Monsignor Monty and just about anyone on
“Catholicism, nothing to do with the Church.”

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 1:45 pm

Razeysays:
November 19, 2022 at 1:14 pm
The value is in the proof of work.

The true value is cost of production. ie $/kWh + computing capex. My limited understanding is that unless one has free power, BTC production is not economic at current value.

Thankyou Razey.

Razey
Razey
November 19, 2022 1:49 pm

BTC is no different.

The weakness of BTC appears to be the exchanges. Even Binance is in the corrupt DOJ sights isnt it?

rosie
rosie
November 19, 2022 1:49 pm

Filed under climate change bur really testimony that nothing beats coal and nuclear when it comes to reliability.
The reservoir in Spain where the Mequinenza power plant is located doesn’t have enough water to keep the lights on

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 1:51 pm

flyingduksays:
November 19, 2022 at 1:42 pm
That’s not to say there aren’t massive scams, but it’s still early days. New tech always gets ahead of itself due to overenthusiasm by humans, but is typically understated in the long term. Wait until the dust settles and see what happens.

Correct, but it aint all that early. I bought my first BTCs in 2015 as a hedge against government tyranny – no shit, and it was under $800 AUD at the time. I didnt buy it as an investment, I bought it as insurance. In my case, it turned out to be both, At least, in our brave new world of medical dictatorship, I have an asset that exists totally outside our increasingly co-ercive monetary system. Of late, that is proving quite a comfort.

No, flying fuck a duck , you do not have an asset. So sell now and get the fuck out of it and count your blessings now. Put the money into cash and then do whatever else you want to do. This is not financial advice as it is reality……………………….Do it now. Whoops, do it om Monday when the Markets open. No charge for this Life Advice.

Razey
Razey
November 19, 2022 1:56 pm

No, flying fuck a duck , you do not have an asset.

Remember. Somethings is worth what someone will pay for it. On that basis anything has the ‘potential’ to be an asset.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
November 19, 2022 2:04 pm

Mr J. Rotten,

I just told your “self raising flour” joke to Her Ladyship, (she of the burgundy Jaguar) and she threw her purse at me and called me a rude name.

Well played, sir, offside stump sent flying.

m0nty
m0nty
November 19, 2022 2:06 pm

I’d like to see a debate between Monsignor Monty and just about anyone on
“Catholicism, nothing to do with the Church.”

Apparently the Pope has nothing to do with the Church either, LOL.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 2:08 pm

BTC is only worth something while governments allow it to be worth something. Once they decide it’s a threat they will destroy it. That day is coming rapidly as fascism spreads worldwide – the example today being the G20 announcement on vaccine passports.

Anything that allows people any freedom from state control will be extinguished.

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 2:10 pm

Monty:

Catholicism is a broad church, to coin a phrase. It does not require ideological zealotry and fanatical adherence to particular interpretations of Scripture.
I do not listen to the Church much. Catholicism is much more than the Church.

It does require commitment. And that will be a nasty little surprise for you when the Doughnut God calls you to it’s bosom.

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 2:10 pm

Razeysays:
November 19, 2022 at 1:56 pm
No, flying fuck a duck , you do not have an asset.

Remember. Somethings is worth what someone will pay for it. On that basis anything has the ‘potential’ to be an asset.

I would not call that an asset. They are electronic digits. Turn the power off and what have you got? SFA that’s what. Nyet.

Maybe a medium of exchange with others but these so called currencies are not currencies. I could be using sea shells, or stones, or salt in the old days. Get real, Crypto is a Scam and a Ponzi Scheme. …………….Wake up you Sheep as you are being fleeced……………………It’s a Scam !!!!!!

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 2:15 pm

Yet so unfazed! Spotted just yesterday at a grocery store.
https://twitter.com/MsMegTrades/status/1593245476438315009
You can bet this little bastard is checking the locks on his doors every night!
Or does he not even realise the Damoclean Sword hanging over his head?
Probably not – he’s just another drug fucked hippie without a clue. A ‘Patsy’ I believe they’re called.

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 2:16 pm

Pedro the Loafersays:
November 19, 2022 at 2:04 pm
Mr J. Rotten,

I just told your “self raising flour” joke to Her Ladyship, (she of the burgundy Jaguar) and she threw her purse at me and called me a rude name.

Well played, sir, offside stump sent flying.

Pedro, my apologies. Please tell your lovely Partner that it was only a joke. And I can take it. So please throw the purse at me. BTW, was there any money in it?

rosie
rosie
November 19, 2022 2:20 pm

That’s just the opinion of another cafeteria Catholic like you.
On abortion alone Pope Francis would know exactly what sort of ‘Catholics’ you are.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 19, 2022 2:22 pm

There is nothing backing the electronic digits apart from faith, hope and charity.

I don’t understand the crypto market, but our esteemed former DoomLord was a big believer in the blockchain process and, IIRC, Bitcoin in particular.
That’s one intelligent analysis in favour of crypto.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 2:23 pm

EXCLUSIVE: Corrupt DOJ’s Pick to “Investigate” Trump Linked to Andrew Weissmann Who Ran the Sham Mueller Special Counsel and Worked with Lois Lerner to Target Conservatives

and

Biden DOJ Assigns Special Counsel to Investigate Republicans in Congress and President Trump for Insurrection, Additionally Investigate Trump for DOJ Defined Classified Documents and Obstruction

November 18, 2022 | Sundance

Okay, first things first. CTH will not play the pretending game or structure the discussion of the special counsel appointment through the prism of MSM references. Instead, we will stick to the facts as they are presented, explain the events as they are factually reflected within the actual documents, and avoid the pretending constructs.

DATA Links: (1) Merrick Garland DOJ Statement on Appointment of Special Counsel ~ (2) pdf of Legal Appointment ~ (3) Statement of Jack Smith upon Appointment ~ (4) Transcript of AG Merrick Garland Public Announcement.

The overarching Lawfare framework has been transparently created by President Obama’s former White House Legal Counsel and current U.S. Asst Attorney General Lisa Monaco. To wit, earlier this afternoon Joe Biden’s Attorney General, Merrick Garland, announced the appointment of DOJ Attorney Jack Smith as special counsel to investigate two specific areas:

This is an extension of the January 6th Committee special investigation that transfers the committee’s investigative findings, ie phone records, text messages, transcripts, emails, prior testimony and all evidentiary records, into the newly appointed Special Counsel.

However, all prior and current DOJ prosecutions against citizen individuals will remain within the control and direction of Main Justice. This structure frees up Jack Smith to target the new republican controlled congressional members, their staff, families and/or communication network. Main Justice keeps focus on the citizen insurrectionists, Jack Smith now appointed to go after the public officials.

J6 Committee staff, committee investigators, FBI agents and DOJ lawyers will now transfer from the committee to the special counsel office. Watch. (More on why later)

As you can see from the simple (non-pretending) explanation of what is being done, the Lawfare process become clear. Everything congress now begins to question falls under the protective blanket of an “ongoing investigation,” exactly as we predicted.

Plus, you get the additional Lawfare elements of congressional leadership under investigation which provides an entirely new ‘conflict of interest dynamic’ to the political equation.

Then you have the congressional representatives under investigation and search warrants on their phones, text messages, emails, etc…. AND the added benefit of using DOJ-NSD defined terms of “national security threat” (that’s why they emphasized insurrection) to gain FISA warrants on an entire incoming congressional delegation. How slick is that?

They didn’t just think this up overnight.

This is why the January 6 committee never ended. They are using J6 as a weapon against their losing the House to republicans. The Democrats are now structurally targeting Republicans with the appointment of Jack Smith.

It’s actually a brilliant move. The executive is now investigating the legislative branch; the legal structure of this eliminates the separation of powers issue.

The DOJ is not investigating republicans, they are investigating defined criminals; insurrectionists that are national security threats, that happen to be republicans. See how that works?

This also explains why Nancy Pelosi did not resign from congress, but only stepped down from her leadership role. The timing of mid-November (today) gives Smith time to get all his midterm counter-offensive ducks in a row before his republican targets take office in January.

All of the congressional J6 and DOJ main justice teams will now assemble in new DC offices to set up the 2023 targeting operation. The announcement was made today, but the planning of the construct has been in place for months, contingent upon the number of actual House seats that could flip. The Lawfare design is transparent when you stop looking at the obfuscation reporting from mainstream media.

Primary goal, create enough of a legal mess as to obstruct any republican legislative effort against the Biden White House. Additionally, if Smith’s DC team can pick-off a few republican House members under charges of “supporting an insurrection“, the political power will revert back to the Democrats in office.

Damon
Damon
November 19, 2022 2:23 pm

“the digital vaccine passports?”
I have a (paper) vaccination certificate. In 50 years of international travel, I have never been asked to show it.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
November 19, 2022 2:24 pm

But boy, use the F word and suddenly the redneck puts on airs.

Fancy? finger? frog? fly? free? frig? forever? Friday? fresh? fish? four? for? fabulous? famous? fact?
There you go now show me the rednecks!

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 19, 2022 2:27 pm

I don’t understand the crypto market, but our esteemed former DoomLord was a big believer in the blockchain process and, IIRC, Bitcoin in particular.

I wonder if he is crying in his mankini that the ASX has abandoned its blockchain/smart contract experiment after pissing 255mill up the wall.

https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/17/asx_blockchain_reading_project_paused/

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 2:28 pm

FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO RUIN OURSELVES.

Posted by Pointman on November 18, 2022

Western Europe and the US are in a recession, though the denial compulsion of bidenomics insists that the old rules no longer apply in the brave new world of the great reset currently in progress.

It’s all nonsense of course and unless there’s some serious remedial action taken, we’re in all probability looking at a long worldwide recession the Bank of England estimates to be of two years duration. I think not only is that an optimistic estimate but if we’re not careful about how the global situation is managed, we could be looking at something a lot like a long depression. Add in the trade barriers, known as sanctions these days, being hurriedly thrown up between major trading blocks and all the exacerbating ingredients for that disaster are shaping up nicely, just like in the 1930s.

We are now beset by the return of those evil twins – a rising cost of living and a decline in the purchasing power of your money. Governments are desperately indulging in a lot of what’s called gaslighting these days by the smart set about the true state of their economies. Nearly all statistics issued by government and quasi-governmental bodies have been cosmetically fiddled with so much over the years for political reasons that they need to be taken with a heavy pinch of salt.

There are still one or two exceptions like the Bank of England which calculated inflation in the UK to be running at 11.1% in October, a number that didn’t go down well with the government. I tend to think their happy days of relative independence will soon be drawing to a close if they persist in producing reports contradicting the happy clappy, all’s well with the world narrative a government in disarray is pushing.

The only way off this path to economic annihilation is to properly address the policies that in less than half a year hurled the world into recession. The failed policy everyone knows was to voluntarily cut ourselves off from the biggest source of commodities we’d allowed ourselves to become totally dependent on in the vain hope that source would implode. They didn’t, we’re the ones who’re imploding. While our central banks are surreptitiously raising interest rates by not enough, their central bank is lowering theirs.

We’ve emptied our arsenals onto the black market via donations to Ukrainian spivs to the point where we couldn’t even defend ourselves if for some mad reason Russia decided to conquer the economic basket case Europe is fast becoming. On both the economic and military front, all Putin has to do is wait.

Wait for West block economies to collapse resulting in regime changes to more amenable faces. Wait for General Winter to do his terrible work before launching the massive Spring offensive every man and his dog knows they’re preparing east of the Dneiper. Wait for West block populations to get fed up of living in cold and poverty over a country most of they couldn’t even find on a world map. Wait for Ukraine fatigue to set in after a brutally cold winter.

Nobody but a fool tries to catch a falling knife. He’ll let it clatter to the tile floor and then negotiate from a position of strength having won the hybrid war. By that time, we’ll be the old beggar in the snow people walk by.

The brainless battle cry of we’ll continue to pour money and munitions into the Ukraine “for as long as it takes” plays exactly into Russia’s patient game. In effect, we’re the ones getting sucked dry and they’re the ones not expending a kopek nor an unnecessary Russian life. West block is like someone hopelessly trapped in some obsessive-compulsive loop who somehow thinks that by repeating the same failed moves over and over again, there’ll somehow be a different result after enough blood and treasure has been spent.

In the mean time, all we’ve got to look forward to is what politicians call austerity regimes.

If you’ve got a penknife, now is the time to use it to make a few new holes in your belt.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 2:30 pm
Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 2:30 pm

So put your money where your Gob is and buy the shite and get rich. So easy apparently.

I like how some people (no names mentioned) seem to conveniently skip by and don’t mention anything……………..Dottie for no names being mentioned……………..lol

JR

Razey
Razey
November 19, 2022 2:31 pm

Maybe a medium of exchange with others but these so called currencies are not currencies. I could be using sea shells, or stones, or salt in the old days. Get real, Crypto is a Scam and a Ponzi Scheme. …………….Wake up you Sheep as you are being fleeced……………………It’s a Scam !!!!!!

However, with the Canadian Trucker incident, we need a medium of exchange outside the Overlords control.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 2:32 pm

Labor nails Lefty Liberal pissant Matt Kean.

Saturday, 19 November 2022

Further evidence of what a liability Boy Minister Matt Kean has become.

Constant point of ridicule for NSW Labor.

The people Kean is trying to appeal to will NEVER vote for a Liberal.

Morsie
Morsie
November 19, 2022 2:34 pm

Down the shops this morning,plenty of Libs and Teals.Libs approached me and I told them I couldn’t vote for them because Guy was corrupt and they were incompetent and needed a good kicking.Said I would vote informal.
Lib guy started abusing me and telling me I was a fool and that Dan would be returned.
I pointed out that abusing punters was not a good idea.They then wanted to have a chat.
I declined the invite.

min
min
November 19, 2022 2:35 pm

Hi Dover , Can you connect me to Carpe Jugulum please he is offering advice on a building problem I have

Damon
Damon
November 19, 2022 2:37 pm

Biden’s democrats are desperate to shift the focus from his performance to anything that could be attributed to the previous administration. Hence the witch hunt.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 2:38 pm

The weakness of BTC appears to be the exchanges. Even Binance is in the corrupt DOJ sights isnt it?

Correct, the exchanges are a major vulnerability for at least 2 reasons

1) by acting as ‘on and off ramps’ between the existing financial system and BTC, they are a ‘single point of failure’ where regulators can see/censor your activities
2) by having your tokens on these exchanges, you GIVE CONTROL of them to the exchange, which can act against your best interests
.
These 2 points above are recognised vulnerabilities of crypto assets, but it is important to realise that they arise due to the interaction between the asset and the old financial world, NOT because the assets themselves are flawed.

You can minimise these risks by

1) Not holding crypto assets on exchanges -rather you ‘self custody’ and there are ways to do that
2) Learning how to transact with crypto assets outside the traditional on and off ramps – you can for instance, buy BTC completely off line and that was the first thing I did in 2015.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 2:40 pm

No, flying fuck a duck , you do not have an asset. So sell now and get the fuck out of it and count your blessings now. Put the money into cash and then do whatever else you want to do. This is not financial advice as it is reality……………………….Do it now. Whoops, do it om Monday when the Markets open. No charge for this Life Advice.

Thanks very much for your wise advice JR, I will get straight onto it thankyou thankyou thankyou!

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 2:42 pm

Old Ozzie:

Why didn’t U.S. regulators, the Democrat-dominated Congress or law enforcement go after FTX before, given what now seem to be clear signs that his business model was questionable at best, criminal at worst?

Because they were in on it?
(Just a wild arsed guess, OO.)

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 2:44 pm

BTC is only worth something while governments allow it to be worth something. Once they decide it’s a threat they will destroy it.

Historically, governments outlawing products that people want (alcohol, narcotics, cannabis etc etc ) tends to

1) fail
2) increase their value

they can’t even keep drugs, weapons or mobile phones out of prisons

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 2:44 pm

Harvard Poll: Donald Trump Up 18 Points over Ron DeSantis in Hypothetical GOP 2024 Primary

A new Harvard CAPS/Harris poll found that former President Donald Trump is the clear front-runner in a hypothetical 2024 Republican primary, leading Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis by 18 points.

The poll found that 46 percent of Republican voters would support Trump, compared to 28 percent who support DeSantis.

Former Vice President Mike Pence, who many speculate will launch a presidential bid in 2024, received just seven percent support. Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (R) came in fourth place in the poll with three percent, while Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, and Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) each polled at two percent.

The Harvard poll was taken after last week’s midterm elections and days after Trump announced his 2024 presidential campaign.

“In order to make America great and glorious again, I am tonight announcing my candidacy for the president of the United States,” Trump told a crowd of supporters at his Mar-a-Lago estate on Tuesday.

The poll also found that Trump would defeat President Joe Biden in a hypothetical 2024 rematch, while DeSantis would tie with Biden.

In a hypothetical rematch, 44 percent of voters would support Trump compared to 42 percent who would support Biden. The survey also found that Trump would beat Vice President Kamala Harris in a hypothetical election by a seven-point margin.

On the other hand, DeSantis and Biden tied at 43 percent in the poll.

The poll found that most voters doubt Biden’s mental fitness and think he should not run for a second term in office.

The Harvard CAPS/Harris poll surveyed 2,212 registered voters from November 16 to November 17.

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 2:48 pm

Morsiesays:
November 19, 2022 at 2:34 pm
Down the shops this morning,plenty of Libs and Teals.Libs approached me and I told them I couldn’t vote for them because Guy was corrupt and they were incompetent and needed a good kicking.Said I would vote informal.
Lib guy started abusing me and telling me I was a fool and that Dan would be returned.
I pointed out that abusing punters was not a good idea.They then wanted to have a chat.
I declined the invite.

It is so easy when you are strong. Just tell them to SHTUP…………………Works every time for me when I have my Rottweiler by my side………………….

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 2:48 pm

German howitzers face problems in Ukraine – Der Spiegel

The Berlin-supplied weapons are reportedly breaking down, and there aren’t enough spare parts to keep the fragile guns firing

German Panzerhaubitze 2000 artillery guns are failing to withstand the rigors of combat in Ukraine, and Berlin hasn’t sourced enough spare parts to keep the cannons working, Der Spiegel reported.

Germany has sent Ukraine 14 of its state-of-the-art Panzerhaubitze (PzH) 2000 self-propelled howitzers, but problems emerged the moment they hit the battlefield. The guns were suffering from “wear and tear” and displaying error messages back in July, and six were recently sent to Lithuania for repair, the German newspaper reported on Friday.

Of these, only five will be heading back to the battlefield. Neither the German military nor its arms industry could provide the necessary spare parts to fix all the guns, the report continued, explaining that technicians had to cannibalize one of them to fix the others.

The German government has been aware of this parts shortage since late summer, when the military warned it to order “extensive spare parts packages,” Der Spiegel claimed. Such an order was apparently not made, and the shortage has hampered Germany’s plans to set up a repair hub in Slovakia.

In planning since September and announced by German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht earlier this week, the repair hub will maintain howitzers and air-defense systems sent to Ukraine by Berlin.

German military officials believe that Ukraine is firing as many as 300 rounds from each PzH 2000 per day, Friday’s report stated. Der Spiegel’s first article on the malfunctioning guns in July noted that 100 rounds per day is considered high-intensity use, and that ammo shortages were forcing Ukraine to load the cannons with incompatible ammunition.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 2:48 pm

I would not call that an asset. They are electronic digits. Turn the power off and what have you got? SFA that’s what. Nyet.

The Bitcoin network is a computer program that runs on multiple countries on every country on earth (no sure about Antarctica). If even ONE of the tens of thousands of network computers are online, the system will still run, and if none are, as soon as ONE comes back up, the network is live again. It is more robust than any other computer network on earth. To kill BTC, you would need to shut down the internet, world wide, forever.

If that happens, billions of people die and your BTC is the least of your worries – but that is why I have stocks of the other 4* precious metals also.

Silver, Gold, Brass, Lead.

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 2:49 pm

It is so easy when you are strong. Just tell them to SHTUP…………………Works every time for me when I have my Rottweiler by my side………………….

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 2:49 pm

Russia and China to abandon dollar in energy trade – Moscow

The two nations have been promoting settlements in their national currencies

Energy trade between Russia and China has been steadily growing and is up 64% in monetary terms so far this year, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Aleksandr Novak told the Rossiya 24 TV channel on Friday.

His comments followed a meeting of the intergovernmental Russian-Chinese commission on energy cooperation.

“China is our strategic partner in the Asia-Pacific region and generally in trade,” he said, noting that in physical terms the increase was about 10% in supplies of oil, gas, coal, and electricity.

The deputy PM explained that the two countries aim to further develop trade relations, and in particular are working on expanding the share of national currencies in energy transactions.

“We are switching to settlements in rubles and yuan for the energy resources supplied,” Novak said.

In recent years, Russia and China have been ramping up the use of domestic currencies in mutual settlements in an attempt to move away from the US dollar and euro. Moscow has been steadily pursuing a policy of de-dollarization of its foreign trade and has in particular increased use of the yuan. In addition to the Chinese currency featuring more frequently in trade settlements, some Russian companies have begun issuing yuan-denominated bonds, while a number of banks are offering deposits in the currency.

According to Novak, the national currencies have also been used for the purchase of various equipment from China.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 19, 2022 2:50 pm

FMD OldOzzie, Andrews had the temerity to say this? On what grounds can this be in any way, shape or form be applicable to this election?
No doubt however the window lickers in the media will give this a pass.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 2:50 pm

Define what currency is Johnny Rotten.

You don’t know what you are talking about.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 2:52 pm

Do it now. Whoops, do it om Monday when the Markets open.

Actually – BTC trading runs 24/7/365 .. thats another one of its strengths.

Bit of a knowledge ‘tell’ there JR?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 2:53 pm

NYT suggests why Russia still has missiles

Though the UK, US, and Ukraine have insisted otherwise, Moscow’s stockpile clearly hasn’t run out, the outlet writes

The New York Times on Friday offered four possible explanations as to how Russia was able to launch a massive missile salvo against Ukraine this week, after the government in Kiev, the Pentagon and the British intelligence have spent months insisting Moscow’s stockpiles were running low.

Ukraine claimed last month that Russia had used up 70% of its prewar missile reserves, the Times noted, while the British Defense Ministry said the October 10 strike against Ukrainian infrastructure was “likely to constrain their ability to strike the volume of targets they desire in future.”

Tuesday’s strike, which the Times described as the “biggest aerial attack” of the conflict so far, featuring 96 missiles, “raises questions about how much Russia’s arsenal may be depleted and whether Moscow will endure by finding alternative sources of weapons.”

One explanation comes from the Pentagon, which had claimed that Russia was running out of missiles as early as May. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said on Wednesday that Russia was “reaching out” to Iran and North Korea to replenish its ammunition stocks, though the Pentagon itself has publicly said otherwise. Moscow, Tehran and Pyongyang have all denied this, however.

Meanwhile, the US has reportedly been trying to buy artillery ammunition for Kiev from South Korea.

Another possibility relies on Ukrainian claims from Thursday that Russia has used S-300 air defense missiles to strike ground targets. The unverified claims follow attempts by Kiev to blame Moscow for the S-300 that struck the Polish village of Przewodow on Tuesday and killed two civilians.

Janes, a British intelligence firm, said it believes Russia is actually building more missiles, possibly using stockpiled microchips and other technology embargoed by the US and its allies for years.

Russia “probably began producing high numbers of Iskanders, Kalibrs, and cruise missiles” before February, and they are “likely being produced as we speak,” with the Russian defense industry working round-the-clock, according to the company.

Zipster
November 19, 2022 2:57 pm
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 2:58 pm

Hmmm – Seems to be a Continuing Theme here!

US running low on arms to give to Ukraine – CNN

The Pentagon is reportedly concerned about its stockpiles of artillery shells, as well as air defense and anti-tank missiles

Concern is growing in the US government about its inability to keep supplying Ukraine with state-of-the-art systems and ammunition amid its conflict with Russia, CNN reported on Thursday.

According to three US officials interviewed by the outlet, some of the challenges the US is facing in terms of supporting Ukraine include its “dwindling” stockpiles of arms and the ability of the defense industry to cope with demand. One official told CNN that there is a “finite amount” of excess stock that Washington can send to Kiev.

Washington is particularly concerned about the available stockpiles of 155mm artillery shells and Stinger air defense missiles, the report says. Some officials are also worried about the production of arms such as HARMs anti-radiation missiles, GMLRS surface-to-surface missiles, and Javelin anti-tank systems.

CNN’s sources maintain, however, that the dent in the stockpiles does not compromise national security, given that the weapons for Ukraine do not come from the supplies the Pentagon reserves for its own contingencies. A senior official also told the outlet that the assessment that the US is “running low” on arms is subjective, as it depends on how much risk the Pentagon is prepared to accept.

One of the major concerns is that the US defense industry is struggling to keep up with demand, while European countries cannot fully backfill their own stockpiles to replace the military hardware sent to Ukraine, officials say. However, to remedy the situation, the US is trying to ramp up production of certain types of arms.

Since the start of Russia’s military operation in Ukraine in late February, the US and its Western allies have been providing Kiev with billions of dollars in security assistance, with Moscow repeatedly warning that weapons shipments will only prolong the conflict.

According to the US Department of Defense, as of early November, Washington has committed to sending Kiev over 1,400 Stingers, 8,500 Javelins, 142 155mm Howitzers, and up to 903,000 155mm artillery rounds.

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 3:00 pm

flyingduksays:
November 19, 2022 at 2:48 pm
I would not call that an asset. They are electronic digits. Turn the power off and what have you got? SFA that’s what. Nyet.

The Bitcoin network is a computer program that runs on multiple countries on every country on earth (no sure about Antarctica). If even ONE of the tens of thousands of network computers are online, the system will still run, and if none are, as soon as ONE comes back up, the network is live again. It is more robust than any other computer network on earth. To kill BTC, you would need to shut down the internet, world wide, forever.

If that happens, billions of people die and your BTC is the least of your worries – but that is why I have stocks of the other 4* precious metals also.

Silver, Gold, Brass, Lead.

Errrrrrrr. Same as me. Electronic stuff doesn’t d o it for me. Maybe for you, I don’t know. I like real stuff. So Good Luck to you with your electronic digits. Give me land, property, shares in Great Companies. But, electronic digits? I don’t think so.

Makka
Makka
November 19, 2022 3:01 pm

The New York Times on Friday offered four possible explanations as to how Russia was able to launch a massive missile salvo against Ukraine this week, after the government in Kiev, the Pentagon and the British intelligence have spent months insisting Moscow’s stockpiles were running low.

Out beyond the Urals, there are a number of sizeable cities that in Soviet times were secret, unable to be entered. Some didn’t have names. Many were dedicated to reckety and it’s associated tech. The Sovs had many enormous u/ground caverns there used to stockpile weapons. Even considering much may be past it’s use by date, without doubt those caverns will be put to good use. It’s easy to see why the Lamestream Media and their woke lefty Govts get it consistently wrong about Russian weapon capacity.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 3:01 pm

Reserve Bank refuses to take responsibility for mistakes

Central planning of *anything* ultimately fails because

1) there is no one ‘central’ solution to any problem for every one
2) the central planners lack sufficient information on the diverse and hidden inputs and outputs of any lever they pull to know what said single solution might be

The RBA tries to ‘centrally plan’ the most important parameter in the economy – the price of and demand for money. Of course they stuff it up.

Bluey
Bluey
November 19, 2022 3:02 pm

Damonsays:
November 19, 2022 at 2:23 pm
“the digital vaccine passports?”
I have a (paper) vaccination certificate. In 50 years of international travel, I have never been asked to show it.

The old orange one? I’ve got one of those!

min
min
November 19, 2022 3:02 pm

Thanks Carpe J have contacted Dover

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 3:03 pm

Democrats Never Admit Defeat

The only thing as wrong as the pre-election predictions of a red wave is the post-midterm analysis declaring a rousing victory by the Democrats.

Midterm election results boost Biden 2024 hopes, Reuters reports. Democrats can’t rest on their midterm success, declares a column published in the Hill. Perhaps the most predictable, if irrelevant, spin came from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who tweeted that House Democrats “defied expectations with an excellent performance: running their races with courage, optimism and determination.”

Biden’s first two years were a Golden Age for Democrats. They rammed through trillions of dollars of new spending while advancing the goals of diversity, inclusion, and equity across the government.

Meanwhile, they and their allies in the media worked to delegitimize their Republican opponents, casting them as racist, fascist “election deniers” who posed an existential threat to the “soul of democracy.” During the summer, liberals were handed an unexpected gift when the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, the poorly reasoned (but now-popular) 1973 case that legalized abortion across the land.

The most telling comment following the midterms was Biden’s declaration that he will do “nothing” different in response to the results. Of course, he won’t. The Democrats are no longer a political party in the old American tradition – an ever-evolving group of people who have a general philosophy which they can quickly adapt to the changing will of the people. They are ideologues committed to a specific unbending set of ideas about the role of the welfare state and their concept of social justice.

They cannot change course because they are no longer running a slate of candidates but a set-in-stone philosophy whose correctness can never be questioned.

They cannot admit defeat, because it’s hard for them to accept that the people do not embrace their “truths” (they just need more time). Election setbacks are just bumps in the road for them to ignore on their march to the promised land.

Makka
Makka
November 19, 2022 3:03 pm

Edit- Many were dedicated to ROCKETRY and it’s associated tech.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 3:04 pm

Errrrrrrr. Same as me. Electronic stuff doesn’t d o it for me. Maybe for you, I don’t know. I like real stuff. So Good Luck to you with your electronic digits. Give me land, property, shares in Great Companies. But, electronic digits? I don’t think so.

I have hedges within hedges within hedges, aka ‘layered defences’, not just hedges within hedges. I congratulate you, it sounds like you have made good progress so far.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 3:05 pm

Blueysays:
November 19, 2022 at 3:02 pm
Damonsays:
November 19, 2022 at 2:23 pm
“the digital vaccine passports?”
I have a (paper) vaccination certificate. In 50 years of international travel, I have never been asked to show it.

The old orange one? I’ve got one of those!

I know I am Badly Colour Blind, but I would swear mine (which I still have) was Yellow

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 3:06 pm

I have a (paper) vaccination certificate. In 50 years of international travel, I have never been asked to show it.
The old orange one? I’ve got one of those!

I have over 60 stamps in my yellow military ‘needle book’ – I pull it out when I am accused of being an ‘antivaxxer’.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 3:11 pm

Great Companies

This random capitalisation is a bit nutty.

Hi…

Bird
srr
Faulty

???

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 3:12 pm

Dotsays:
November 19, 2022 at 2:50 pm
Define what currency is Johnny Rotten.

You don’t know what you are talking about.

Yes I do Dottie and you do not. Currency throughout History has been many things. Get a Book and have a good read. Currency has been sea shells, salt, bronze and many things, Just not gold and silver. Your knowledge of History is as limited as your so called limited IQ. You are actually a limited pygmy and maybe happy to be here in this fishbowl of a Blog. So happy days for you and long may it continue……………….

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 3:12 pm

Lotocoti:

The Bundeswehr continues one of the finest traditions of the Wehrmacht.
Not bothering about spare parts.

(Going from memory here, so detail may be out)
As the Soviet pincers started connect around the Kalach area astride the Northern rail line into Stalingrad – the 6th Army’s main tank repair center was chockers with armour waiting on spare parts. 24th Panzer, hurriedly pulled out of the city fighting to regain control of the area, lost over 100 tanks/troop carriers and heavy artillery pieces that had they been in fighting condition, could have held the main lines open.
I’ve seen reports that between 30k to 40k wounded troops froze to death in Ambulance Trains waiting to get out of the pocket but have yet to see it verified.
So yes, it appears the German Army still hasn’t learned much about logistics.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 3:13 pm

Just applied to renew my Australian Passport on Friday

I have to give Kudos to the Australian Passports Office

– completed Online process in 10 mins – Easy Peasy – printed out 2 copies of Form for renewal – to Local Post Office – Passport Photos done on the spot $19, Old Expired Passport sighted and thankfully, I put wrong Date on form, and Girl serving said did I have another form – Yes, Belt & Braces, pulled out second copy – all over and done in 10 Mins – went for Normal processing, as not looking at going to Milan till end of March – the Girl said 6-8 weeks to process – suits me

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 19, 2022 3:13 pm

Yes Cassie I’d forgotten those two. I like the tenacity of Bibi. I think he comes to you for advice. Ha.

Bluey
Bluey
November 19, 2022 3:21 pm

OldOzziesays:
November 19, 2022 at 3:05 pm
Blueysays:
November 19, 2022 at 3:02 pm
Damonsays:
November 19, 2022 at 2:23 pm
“the digital vaccine passports?”
I have a (paper) vaccination certificate. In 50 years of international travel, I have never been asked to show it.

The old orange one? I’ve got one of those!

I know I am Badly Colour Blind, but I would swear mine (which I still have) was Yellow

Yeah….just double checked in the light of day and you’re right. I’ve not looked at it in years. French and English, and a laundry list of stabs in the arm I was required to have. Quite happy to leave it in the draw.

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 3:31 pm

JC:
OK, it’s another round of a pathetic gotcha without verification from you over something that happened A BLOODY DECADE AGO AND YOU STILL WON”T SHUT UP ABOUT IT.
Sinclair told us he spoke to Mark 50 about the ‘plagiarism’ incident, and was satisfied with the answer.
He was satisfied – geddit?
You’re the only one who isn’t happy about it and yet you – with less knowledge about the man – have dragged this out year after year for yet another whinge.
So just shut up and give your arse and ego a damn rest.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 19, 2022 3:32 pm

Winston

And other western armies have learned from the Germans how to fight well at the tactical and operational level, but have forgotten whatever they knew about fighting at the strategic level. They win the battles and campaigns, but lose the wars.

Too much Wehrmacht penis envy since 1945.

Roger
Roger
November 19, 2022 3:38 pm

Central planning of *anything* ultimately fails because…

Leaving aside the wisdom or lack thereof in the RBA for a moment, Australians generally have become so wedded to big government solutions to everything that to talk of the virtues of subsidiarity is to risk being labelled a madman.

It will take a collapse of our long-evolved centralisation of power to change that.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 3:38 pm

It is hilarious being called an “intellectual Pygmy” by a mental weakling whom:

Can’t post an original thought
Thinks they should give unlicensed investment advice
Wants to use brass as money (!)
Humour is a Google chat bot
Can’t give a definition where they criticise the basis of other’s arguments
Refer to themselves in the third person as if we need to read your entries like historical gold
Parrots virtually every brain fart one of the worst fraudsters in history posts on their own media
Agrees with fraudster bro that “history will remember Zelensky just like HITLER!”

It’s actually hysterical when you sit back and think about it.

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 3:38 pm

Winston Smithsays:
November 19, 2022 at 3:12 pm
Lotocoti:

The Bundeswehr continues one of the finest traditions of the Wehrmacht.
Not bothering about spare parts.

(Going from memory here, so detail may be out)
As the Soviet pincers started connect around the Kalach area astride the Northern rail line into Stalingrad – the 6th Army’s main tank repair center was chockers with armour waiting on spare parts. 24th Panzer, hurriedly pulled out of the city fighting to regain control of the area, lost over 100 tanks/troop carriers and heavy artillery pieces that had they been in fighting condition, could have held the main lines open.
I’ve seen reports that between 30k to 40k wounded troops froze to death in Ambulance Trains waiting to get out of the pocket but have yet to see it verified.
So yes, it appears the German Army still hasn’t learned much about logistics.

So why are you saying this stuff? What is your purpose? Are you drunk? WTF? Go to sleep please……….

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 3:38 pm

Zipster:

Can unvaccinated welfare recipients lose their payments?
Malcolm Roberts

It may be that Senator Roberts is just getting the limelight here but he is certainly looking better and more focused that the rest of the contenders atm.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 19, 2022 3:39 pm

The greatest race. Billed as a match in 2, so it proved.
https://youtu.be/4cDyVaDJvIE

Jorge
Jorge
November 19, 2022 3:39 pm

However, with the Canadian Trucker incident, we need a medium of exchange outside the Overlords control.

Yes. Nothing against crypto, but taking a shine to physical bullion.

Went with daughter into 7th Floor, Collins St to get some recently. Quite busy, a fairly regular flow of ordinary people along the corridor to a secure door where you could purchase amounts from the tiny to the sizeable e.g. small 1 gram bags of what looked like gold ball bearings (handy for trade or bartering when SHTF).

One of the great attractions was that it is all cash only, no ID. Unlike the Perth Mint, no record.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 3:41 pm

Ho hum, another Fake Stoush headed for the Duelling Thread.
Mk 50 is callin’ hisself Knuckle Dragger these days, by the way.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 3:42 pm

Currency has been sea shells, salt, bronze and many things

ANGAU in WW2 were paying porters in sea shells. At one point they were running out of them and had to contact the coast for more supplies. I was wondering to myself at the time if that was causing inflation amongst the highland villages.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 19, 2022 3:42 pm

On the radio just now, apparently there is going to be Formula I racing for the ladies.

I must admit to deep confusion. Why are they separate?

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 3:45 pm

Dotsays:
November 19, 2022 at 3:38 pm
It is hilarious being called an “intellectual Pygmy” by a mental weakling whom:

Can’t post an original thought
Thinks they should give unlicensed investment advice
Wants to use brass as money (!)
Humour is a Google chat bot
Can’t give a definition where they criticise the basis of other’s arguments
Refer to themselves in the third person as if we need to read your entries like historical gold
Parrots virtually every brain fart one of the worst fraudsters in history posts on their own media
Agrees with fraudster bro that “history will remember Zelensky just like HITLER!”

It’s actually hysterical when you sit back and think about it.

Maybe a Dottie Person turned up one day……………..Oh Gollie Gosh……..What could we do? Tell the Authourities and tell them that we could not spell it………………..LOL

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 3:47 pm

Turtlehead
We find this Rambo, tough guy act, “I support shooting 1000 people as an example to others”, while in the very next comment, morphing into a needy, whimpering sook really funny.

OK, it’s another round of a pathetic gotcha without verification from you over something that happened A BLOODY DECADE AGO AND YOU STILL WON”T SHUT UP ABOUT IT.

Really, yet defaming me about dobbing in Brian was 7 years ago. You know the incident, you tried to bring it up and faceplanted. You unintelligent male nurse.

Now fuck off and decide which routine you’re going in the next comment. Rambo or sooky bawler.You pathetic dickhead.

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 3:50 pm

Dollie Parton with your Big Tits

Martin Armstrong is a Cool Man and you Dottie are not. So Fuck Off.

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 3:51 pm

Boambee John:

Small and medium businesses, farmers, tradies, skilled workers = the modern yeomanry.

That looks suspiciously like a list of kulaks, BJ.
Tell us more.

calli
calli
November 19, 2022 3:55 pm

Manly manliness update for International Men’s Day.

New retractable hose reel – installed
New fittings to all hoses – ditto
Broken sh*t disposed of – tick

Back to the hardware because he bought the wrong diameter fittings…heheh.

Back again to the hardware because one of the fittings was faulty … hmmmmm.

Perhaps they have a new blonde delight behind the service desk. Last time I was there they were all old bats. He did put on a fresh Hawaiian shirt for the trip. 😀

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 3:55 pm

Ah there we go:

Chapter 9: Bena Bena and Tsili Tsili

At the beginning of 1943 the natives in the Bena Bena-Mount Hagen country were a responsibility of J. R. Black (now a captain in Angau and the district officer for the Ramu area), and his staff of 4 officers and 9 NCOs. Black was able to recruit large teams of native carriers, mainly from the Chimbus who formed the largest numerical group of the population, but these carriers could safely be used only in the high non-malarious plateau and not in lower areas where they were likely to die from malaria. Payment for native services was made with sea shells.

“Stocks of trade [mainly shells and salt] are at present nil,” wrote MacAdie to General Herring on 21st July, “and we are compelled to beg reluctant natives for credit for food supplies and labour

Sea shells are pretty good since they’re hard to fake and take a bit of work to get. Can’t just print off more of them. Not a bad form of currency really.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 3:58 pm

Martin Armstrong is a Cool Man and you Dottie are not. So Fuck Off.

Sure, if you think a convicted unrepentant fraudster is cool.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
November 19, 2022 3:59 pm

The GayBC get again running Christian-bashing interference in the Victorian election on behalf of Dan Xi Man and Queen Skank Patten:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-19/victorian-liberal-party-candidate-distance-matthew-guy/101674308

Guy, needles to say, behaves like a wet lettuce leaf in response.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 3:59 pm

Yes I do Dottie and you do not. Currency throughout History has been many things.

Perhaps start with a definition of money, how it differs from currency, and perhaps the key functions of money (unit of account, medium of exchange, store of value) and the key features of anything used as money (portability, fungibility, divisibility, durability etc)

shatterzzz
November 19, 2022 4:01 pm

Can unvaccinated welfare recipients lose their payments?
Malcolm Roberts

They’d have to have a great case for discrimination if non vax lost payments over applying for jobs that require vax .. no one loses any welfare because “no spika the English” when it comes to unemployment ..
Surprised Malcolm didn’t use this “anomaly” as an example ……!

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 4:01 pm

JCsays:
November 19, 2022 at 3:47 pm
Turtlehead
We find this Rambo, tough guy act, “I support shooting 1000 people as an example to others”, while in the very next comment, morphing into a needy, whimpering sook really funny.

OK, it’s another round of a pathetic gotcha without verification from you over something that happened A BLOODY DECADE AGO AND YOU STILL WON”T SHUT UP ABOUT IT.

Really, yet defaming me about dobbing in Brian was 7 years ago. You know the incident, you tried to bring it up and faceplanted. You unintelligent male nurse.

Now fuck off and decide which routine you’re going in the next comment. Rambo or sooky bawler.You pathetic dickhead.

Hey Jerky Crunt, how about you Fuck Off you crunt. You Pompous Windbag and Fuck wick. Piss off You Tosser, I have never much such a fucking cunt like you in my life before …………………..

calli
calli
November 19, 2022 4:02 pm

Kina shells are still used as “money” in PNG. I have a couple of lovely ones here. The other unit is the toea which is a much smaller shell to be formed into strings. They are sewn up to make up a “bride price”, again I have one very old one here.

The modern unit of currency is the Kina/Toea, which is really should be no surprise to anyone.

calli
calli
November 19, 2022 4:03 pm

Is everyone drinking early today? You all sound a bit snarky.

Have a Snickers.

Vicki
Vicki
November 19, 2022 4:04 pm

Damonsays:
November 19, 2022 at 2:23 pm
“the digital vaccine passports?”
I have a (paper) vaccination certificate. In 50 years of international travel, I have never been asked to show it.

We, of a certain vintage, all seem to have had that old vaccination (yellow, as I recall) booklet. I shudder now to think that when we travelled to Africa (Zimbabwe & Kenya) in the 1980s we were required to have a vaccination for Yellow Fever or some such fearsome disease. I seem to recall also Sleeping Sickness – but I don’t think we ended up being required to have the vaccination.

Still, unforeseen afflictions occur in Africa. We were on a guided day trip in Samburu National Park (far north in Kenya) when the driver of our vehicle drove up a track (that husband thought was a dust bog) & promptly got bogged. Despite every effort with tree branches under wheels etc we were there for the night. Fortunately, our driver’s mates missed him at the nightly card game
and sent the local army unit to look for us. The 6 footers who arrived had husband hold a bevy of their impressive weaponry while they literally pried the car’s differential off the tree trunk it was embedded in.

On returning to our safari accomodation we took immediate showers to wash of the black dust that covered us when we were fruitlessly trying to dig the car out. Problem ………a black patch (which wasn’t a bruise) on my arm just wouldn’t wash off & remained on my arm until I returned to Sydney maybe a week later. I was shocked when my GP pronounced the skin as “necrotic”. Bloody hell!

Anyway, no after effects…. but Africa sure has some strange fungi or whatever…..

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 4:05 pm

One of the great attractions was that it is all cash only, no ID. Unlike the Perth Mint, no record.

Indeed – no point buying PMs to hide assets from the Feds if you buy it whilst leaving fingerprints back to the banking system..

BTW, can *highly* recommend ‘City Gold’ for those in Adelaide or Brissy. They fully understand their customers desire for privacy.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 4:06 pm

Pensions are also Welfare Payments.
Forcing Pensioners to take the Rosie is one way of clearing the Welfare Rolls.

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 4:06 pm

And I was being nice………………lol

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 4:07 pm

But Rodney, you’re telling me to fuck off, yet when I suggest you’re a waste of space on this blog you claim I’m trying to cut your right to free speech!

Dot’s comments about you are very accurate.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 4:09 pm

It will take a collapse of our long-evolved centralisation of power to change that.

Winter is coming….

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 4:10 pm

On the radio just now, apparently there is going to be Formula I racing for the ladies.
I must admit to deep confusion. Why are they separate?

aka: ‘If women can do anything men can – why don’t they?’

Johnny Rotten
November 19, 2022 4:12 pm

Ed Casesays:
November 19, 2022 at 4:06 pm
Pensions are also Welfare Payments.
Forcing Pensioners to take the Rosie is one way of clearing the Welfare Rolls.

You are a Twat Head Case. How old are you? Do you deserve the Age Pension? If not Shut The Fuck Up. And go away.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 4:14 pm

Looking thru Armstrong’s Wiki entry, notice that Time Magazine puffed him early on, an indication that he was a Spook.
Since the DoJ is a criminal organisation anyway, Armstrong may have gone legit, and his problems started there.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 19, 2022 4:16 pm

Straya 3/144 and looking at 320+ in the crikkit.

The soap-dodging moaners are a bit pedestrian. Perhaps there was a dreesing-room argument over kippers earlier today.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 19, 2022 4:17 pm

4/144.

The kippers are kicking in.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 4:18 pm

It is hilarious being called an “intellectual Pygmy” by a mental weakling whom:

Can’t post an original thought
Thinks they should give unlicensed investment advice

Er no, that was the duk, and why not? I’m no longer a licenced Dr either, yet people still ask me medical questions

Wants to use brass as money (!)

Why not” It has some history (the original ‘shot glass’ was a single cartridge, swapped for a glass of whisky at the bar) and seems suitable:

Unit of account? – yes, this shot of whisky will cost you 1 cartridge.
Medium of exchange ? – yes, you can buy this shot of whisky for one cartridge.
Store of value? – yes, you can buy this shot of whisky in a years time for one cartride.
Portable? – yes
Durable? – yes
Fungible? (ie is one cartridge the same as another?) – yes

etc etc etc

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 4:18 pm

Duk

I’ve never even tried to understand crypto and don’t have a view on it one way or another. But I’ll say this though. If crypto has zero value, then gold also has zero value as an investment grade commodity and a store of value.
PS, the rupture caused by those ridiculous geeks has nothing to say about the inherent utility of crypto. If a major gold mine collapses financially, no one tags gold with related negative spin.

Good luck.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 4:19 pm

Is everyone drinking early today? You all sound a bit snarky.

Drinking? – Yes, Muscat
Early ? – No

Mater
November 19, 2022 4:19 pm

Broken sh*t disposed of – tick

You’re coming along nicely, Calli.
One little asterisk to remove and a teeny-tiny ‘i’ to insert and dot, and you’ll be there.
You can do it. Drop a fully constructed profanity on the blog for us. Please!
Perhaps consider it a special contribution to celebrating International Men’s Day.

People who swear make the best friends.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 4:19 pm

Getting a comment published on The Australian‘s Letters Page last week seems to have gone to your head, Schmendrick.
Unsurprisingly, your comment was crap.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 19, 2022 4:20 pm

c

alli says:
November 19, 2022 at 3:55 pm

Manly manliness update for International Men’s Day.

I farted, ate a cheese& garlic pizza and had a beer

Roger
Roger
November 19, 2022 4:21 pm

On the radio just now, apparently there is going to be Formula I racing for the ladies.

I hope they’ve taken the trouble to define what a “lady” is…and I don’t mean in the old fashioned sense.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 4:24 pm

Manly manliness update for International Men’s Day.

New retractable hose reel – installed
New fittings to all hoses – ditto
Broken sh*t disposed of – tick

– Get ‘Doomwagon’ Hilux* started after being left for a couple of months – Tick
– Get around to fixing the trayliner with numerous tek screws drilled (with gay abandon) into tub sides and floor
– Enjoy V8 burbles whilst ignoring blue smoke etc
– Retire inside and open Muscat, given weather

* 2.2 litre 4 cyl long ago swapped for 253 V8, but still point etc for the EMP threat, lift kit, roo bar, rust in evolution, muddy tires

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 4:25 pm

“That’s no birthing person that’s my wife!”

cohenite
November 19, 2022 4:26 pm

Makkasays:
November 19, 2022 at 11:51 am
Get over and vote;

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
2m
Reinstate former President Trump
Yes
67.2%
No
32.8%

Now:

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
4h
Reinstate former President Trump
Yes
54.8%
No
45.2%
5,639,937 votes
·
19 hours left

https://twitter.com/elonmusk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

cohenite
November 19, 2022 4:28 pm

Getting a comment published on The Australian‘s Letters Page last week seems to have gone to your head, Schmendrick.
Unsurprisingly, your comment was crap.

I don’t know who you’re having a go at crotchless but I’m on their side.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 4:30 pm

Pensions are also Welfare Payments. Forcing Pensioners to take the Rosie is one way of clearing the Welfare Rolls.

Or, just do what they did to me

– force me to ‘contribute’ into super fund for multiple decades, whether i like to or not
– refuse to release said funds from ‘Government Super System’ to SMSF
– cancel career and income for disagreeing with government
– deny access to super after cancelling career as ‘too young’ unless willing to pay penalties for access.
– have not applied for any sort of welfare/job, but doubt I would be eligible as ‘you can fix this by getting vaxxed’

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 4:35 pm

Rosie:
Election Day – Victoria.
Now looking like election week. A similar system to the US.
The claim that counting doesn’t begin until tonight? I don’t believe that. (The claim Rosie, not your statement.)
I asked a couple of weeks ago if there were Dominion computers etc being used but got no answer. Well no lucid ones anyway – Big Ed came up with something that vaguely resembled English but failed to answer the question.
I understand the Victorian Parliament is considering them.
In that case, there will be two red flags going up in these elections.
Either that or multiple boxes being ‘found’ after the count finishes.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 4:35 pm

I’ve never even tried to understand crypto and don’t have a view on it one way or another.

If its any consolation, I am one of the worlds biggest luddites, I:

– always pay with cash
– avoid debt
– don’t use social media
– distrust automatic transmissions – I ‘double declutch’ even in cars and trucks that dont need it
– hated ‘tech assists’ when I was an anaesthetist – I preferred to trust what I could see/feel rather than what the monitors told me

etc etc etc

The fact that I could see the Libertarian value of cryptocurrencies, early, despite this, perhaps is an indication of their value?

calli
calli
November 19, 2022 4:44 pm

I never swear in writing Mater.

Standards must be maintained.

Razey
Razey
November 19, 2022 4:44 pm

shatterzzzsays:
November 19, 2022 at 4:01 pm
Can unvaccinated welfare recipients lose their payments?
Malcolm Roberts

They’d have to have a great case for discrimination if non vax lost payments over applying for jobs that require vax .. no one loses any welfare because “no spika the English” when it comes to unemployment ..
Surprised Malcolm didn’t use this “anomaly” as an example ……!

It’s either get welfare or commit crimes and get free meals in the slammer. I’m ok either way if it comes to that.

Mater
November 19, 2022 4:46 pm

I don’t understand the crypto market, but our esteemed former DoomLord was a big believer in the blockchain process and, IIRC, Bitcoin in particular.
That’s one intelligent analysis in favour of crypto.

In the same boat, and I don’t entirely disagree with the approach, OSC.
However, Doomlord did also believe in Turnbull and his ‘potential greatness’, so it’s obviously not a completely reliable approach, nor an infallible battle indicator.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 4:46 pm

Winston Smithsays:
November 19, 2022 at 3:12 pm
Lotocoti:

The Bundeswehr continues one of the finest traditions of the Wehrmacht.
Not bothering about spare parts.

(Going from memory here, so detail may be out)
As the Soviet pincers started connect around the Kalach area astride the Northern rail line into Stalingrad

Winston,

you may enjoy SBS on Demand

Trains at War – Documentary – 1 season – French

Examines four famous European battles of World War II: the Battle of Britain, the failure of Barbarossa, Operation Overlord and the liberation of France.

Sat 19 November
5:30-6:30pm
SBS Trains at War 1944: Railway, Key To Overlord
Season 1, Episode 3

WS
Sun 20 November
5:30-6:30pm
SBS Trains at War 1944: The Trains Of The Liberation
Season 1, Episode 4

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 4:47 pm

Kevin Barrett thinks Crypto is legit and a threat to The Banksters.
FTX may have been a controlled demolition, since Sam Bankman-Fried was a Speed Freak, an as dumb as a bag of rocks.
[Unz Review]

Razey
Razey
November 19, 2022 4:48 pm

The Overlords are getting more brazen. Reporter chopped into pieces at a Saudi Embassy and no consequences.

The Biden administration has ruled that Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has immunity from a lawsuit over the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, drawing immediate condemnation from the slain journalist’s fiancée.

https://hotcopper.com.au/threads/biden-team-declares-saudi-prince-immune-in-khashoggi-murder-case.7096615/?get_post=true

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 19, 2022 4:48 pm

4/176. 16 overs to go.

The complaining sleet-lovers are keeping a lid on the middle order, in between lodging grievances over the temperature and/or wind direction.

Mater
November 19, 2022 4:49 pm

I never swear in writing Mater.
Standards must be maintained.

C’mon Calli. I know it’s a moral dilemma…better friend or standards.
If you were a man, it’d be a fait accompli. It’d tick both boxes.

I guess men and women ARE different after all!
😉

calli
calli
November 19, 2022 4:50 pm

flyingduk says:
November 19, 2022 at 4:24 pm

I like the cut of your jib.

Today’s efforts involved much mucking around with power tools, screws and hacksaws. Plus all the stupid hose fittings. We only had a couple of good quality brass connectors left, so had to make do with inferior stuff from the hardware. He did okay.

About enjoy a nice glass of Cab Sav while I consume another nutritious G&T. We’ve earned it.

Mater
November 19, 2022 4:52 pm

Hey Knuckle Dragger, you were Infantry too. What’s your body count?
Ed says we’ve all got one.

We need to compare sizes!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 4:55 pm

Could DOJ’s Special Counsel Actually Fire up Support for Donald Trump?

What if Attorney General Merrick Garland’s latest attempt to get Trump by appointing a special counsel backfires and actually helps the former president’s latest bid for office? It would be pretty darned funny, I’d say.

Garland, in an apparent bid to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest because his boss might run again in an election battle with the already-declared Trump, on Friday appointed veteran prosecutor Jack Smith to oversee the Mar-a-Lago documents and Jan. 6 investigations.

Voters, especially Trump’s base, could find renewed energy as they witness yet another overzealous prosecution of Orange Man Bad, and after watching so many failed efforts, they could (correctly) conclude that the Justice Department is simply an untrustworthy, politicized, partisan Democrat operation. In other words, Joe Biden’s enforcement arm:

Ted Cruz
@tedcruz

Joe Biden has completely weaponized the Department of Justice to attack his political opponents.

3 days ago, Trump announced and now a Special Counsel. ?

This is Trump derangement syndrome but this time with a gun and badge. #JusticeCorrupted

Get this: back in the 1970s, Smith was a federal prosecutor who helped investigate The Donald for possible fraud charges. The case closed—wait for it… without charges. So if Trump has somewhat of a case of a persecution complex, you’d certainly understand why. This guy Smith has been after him for fifty years.

But haven’t we been hearing that for six years now? The “walls are closing in” this time? No doubt the special counsel will be a thorn in Trump’s side, but I expect that—unless they really do get him this time—it will galvanize his support more than it hurts him. People are sick of these expensive, non-productive witch hunts that don’t improve our lives and cost millions.

Jack Smith will likely fail as badly as Robert Mueller did, and don’t be surprised if Trump once again has the last laugh.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 19, 2022 4:57 pm

Kevin Barrett thinks Crypto is legit and a threat to The Banksters.

Of course it is!

Blockchain is as big a threat to the old monetary order as Uber was to the taxi industry … they wont go down without a fight.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 4:58 pm

Reporter chopped into pieces at a Saudi Embassy and no consequences.

Much as I like that idea in theory he wasn’t really a reporter. He was a Muslim Brotherhood activist and operative. Although to be fair most journos nowadays are Marxist activists and operatives, so there’s that.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 19, 2022 5:01 pm

That dastardly Ed’s outwitted us all. Again.

Hey Knuckle Dragger, you were Infantry too. What’s your body count?

If I include grenades, and also kills where I’m standing up next to a tree completely covered in mud except for my eyeballs when the enemy walks past within arms’ length – I’ve written the number in my study somewhere, but it’s between six and seven thousand.

Plus several boathouses, of varying colour.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 5:02 pm

Did Knuckle Dragger even make it thru basic training?
I heard he flunked out.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 5:03 pm

Biden, Democrats Moving to Ban Traditional Marriage Advocates from the Public Square

America is about to learn that what liberals actually mean when they claim to support “separation of church and state” is they want to use the power of government to silence those who disagree with them on same-sex marriage.

For years, liberals have perverted the meaning of Thomas Jefferson’s “absolute wall of separation” for keeping the state out of the church to keeping those in the church who uphold the Bible’s definition of marriage out of the public square.

The occasion for this teachable moment is the “Respect for Marriage Act” now before the Senate. Democrats claim the proposal is required to make same-sex marriage legal nationwide, even though the Supreme Court’s Obergefell decision in 2015 did precisely that.

A dozen Republican senators voted with all of the Democrats to advance the proposal. Had this dozen GOP lawmakers voted against advancing the bill, it would still be tied up in the Senate, with an excellent chance of not going any further before the 118th Congress convenes. There’s no guarantee, however, that the new Republican-controlled House of Representatives would block the proposal.

There are two elements here that command attention. The first element is seen in a Washington Post news analysis by staff writer Aaron Blake that reveals one of the most important and fundamental divides in American politics.

The same-sex marriage bill, according to Blake, asks lawmakers “to codify state and federal recognition of a right that the Supreme Court has ruled already exists.” In other words, the rights of every individual American citizen are defined by law, as passed by Congress, signed by the president, and enforced by the Court.

That understanding of the source of individual rights would shock and sadden the Founders, who declared in the Declaration of Independence in 1776 that:

Simply put, the liberals are saying to millions of Americans that they have no right to disagree in the public square with same-sex marriage and the state can and indeed soon will take their property via taxes and use them to support the enforcement of same-sex marriage as a political right.

That enforcement is the second element here that commands attention. The bill includes provisions that authorize the IRS to jerk the tax exemption of any church or non-profit that opposes same-sex marriage. The bill also encourages litigation to be brought against those same institutions in the court system to enforce the right to same-sex marriage.

Here’s what that means: Soon after Biden signs the bill into law, there will begin to be same-sex couples demanding to be married in evangelical churches they know to be opposed to the practice.

If the pastor refuses to perform the ceremony, the church will be sued and it will lose in court. That litigation will then be used by the IRS as justification for ending the church’s tax-exempt status, as well as the tax-deductibility of congregants’ tithes and contributions.

But that’s not all. The IRS is being primed to be ready for action against evangelical and traditional Catholic social service institutions as well. As Heritage Action for America explains:

Mater
November 19, 2022 5:04 pm

I’ve written the number in my study somewhere, but it’s between six and seven thousand.

Yeah, nah.
Doesn’t count. I’m only going to compare enemy combatants, not the women and children you executed behind the school shelter shed.

We’re comparing apples with apples if you please. Try again!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 19, 2022 5:07 pm

I’m only going to compare enemy combatants, not the women and children you executed behind the school shelter shed.

Oh. I see.

1,822. I’m still claiming the boathouses.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 19, 2022 5:09 pm

women and children you executed

Ed:

I’ve still got a couple of wheat bags full of children’s feet I cut off and brought back. You can have them for your collection if you want, because I’m downsizing.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 5:12 pm

So, it’s a number somewhere between 0 and 1,822.
How long since the last one?
Are you getting itchy?

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 5:13 pm

J.C:

But boy, use the F word and suddenly the redneck puts on airs.

You make such a pathetic victim.
There hasn’t been a stoush here that you’ve not started, or egged on.
You behave like Dan Andrews – walk in, point out the victim of your latest dose of the shits and let some other unsuspecting dill who doesn’t understand your tactics cop it for you and get a pat on the head.
Except your attempt to piss on Bruce of Newcastle didn’t work out as well as you’d hoped did it?
And it laid bare your methods.
It’s going to be a long time before you slime your way out of that one.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 5:13 pm

A bit of Good News – Molotov cocktail-tossing lawyer sentenced to 15 months for torching NYPD car

Brooklyn federal court Judge Brian Cogan admonished Urooj Rahman before handing down the 15-month sentence, calling the firebombing an “attack on the rule of law” carried out by someone who took an oath to uphold the Constitution.

In the United States, Cogan told Rahman, you “go to the ballot box, not the bomb” if you’re driven to fight for social justice. He added she showed an “amazing level of arrogance” with the attack.

“What a bomb does cannot be undone,” the jurist said.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 5:14 pm

Blah – just had a lengthy conversation with a good ol’ mate (since 5th grade at St Peds) who’s a collectivist. He launched into a tirade against the braindead lamestream meeja, stating he never watched or listened to the news nowadays as it was/is all bullshit.

Stunned, I agreed with him, which then prompted him to commence an equally vituperative spray about Orange Man Bad. At the end of which, I had to say, “Yeah well, you don’t hear me launching into unhinged rants about that foul syphilitic ol’ geriatric biden, do you Squire?”

Followed by some deathly silence. Broken shortly afterwards by talking about the cricket.

Politics – what a curse it is.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 5:16 pm

special counsel Jack Smith

Working with his trusty sidekick, Jane Doe …

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 5:17 pm

That enforcement is the second element here that commands attention. The bill includes provisions that authorize the IRS to jerk the tax exemption of any church or non-profit that opposes same-sex marriage. The bill also encourages litigation to be brought against those same institutions in the court system to enforce the right to same-sex marriage.

That has such a wide ambit you know the Supremes will knock it on the head, so you have to ask is it just theatre before 2024?

Mater
November 19, 2022 5:22 pm

So, it’s a number somewhere between 0 and 1,822.
How long since the last one?
Are you getting itchy?

Furken A!
Especially on International Man Day!

What else do we dumb grunts door aspire to?
Once a mindless killer, always a mindless killer!

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 5:22 pm

Ed:

You’re conflating a Vic Jack Inc goon (fmr) and enlisted soldier (fmr) with a currently serving career naval officer.

You also reckon Knuckles flunked out of basic training and has a kill count higher than Simo Haya.

Lay off the glass barbie, sweetie.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 19, 2022 5:23 pm

Elon Musk’s ‘picture of the day’ makes a mockery of Dem investigatory priorities

Just to help set the scene, check out Tucker Carlson’s segment last night on FTX and Democrats. It’s something else:

Tucker EXPOSES why FTX “laundering” scheme for Democrats is SO much worse than you thought…

Couple that with what (and who) President Biden and other congressional Democrats have been indicating they might focus on as far as investigations go:

Reporter: “Do you think
@elonmusk
is a threat to national security?”

Biden: “It’s worthy of being looked at.”

@SenMarkey threatens @elonmusk

: “You cannot ignore what the federal government is requiring of your company, and that goes for … guardrails that have to be built around social media … They will pay a price if they don’t put safeguards in place at Twitter”

Add it all up and Elon Musk has the perfect meme to nutshell the situation:

cohenite
November 19, 2022 5:24 pm

Are you getting itchy?

Are you crotchless? I bet you miss those chafeless panties.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 5:26 pm

You make such a pathetic victim.

Except I never sent a email to a blog owner crying that someone was mean to me. You did and threatened to sue the blog owner. You demanded we never speak, which I enthusiastically signed onto. Subsequently, you began grovelling to me that I found even more disgusting. Here we are, the wimp who at times morphs into Rambo.

There hasn’t been a stoush here that you’ve not started, or egged on.

There are a couple of this very thread that I didn’t start. That was you, the Turtlehead, the Driller and of course you new found buddy, Rodney Rottenhead.

You behave like Dan Andrews – walk in, point out the victim of your latest dose of the shits and let some other unsuspecting dill who doesn’t understand your tactics cop it for you and get a pat on the head.

Your behavior is actually disturbing and I hope you end up making contact with the intel/Police authorities. Suggesting you would support the wholesale murder of a 1,000 people is verging of decrepit insanity. I don’t understand why you haven’t been booted.

All I can say is that which I’ve quoted from Taxicab Depressions :
“These people are playing with matches… I don’t think they understand the scope and scale of the wildfire they are flirting with. They are fucking around with a civil war that could last a decade and cause millions of deaths… and the sad truth is that 95% of the problems we have in this country could be solved tomorrow, by noon… simply by dragging 1000 people out in the street and shooting them in the fucking head.”

The Rambo /simpering wimp routines are funny. Keep them up.

Razey
Razey
November 19, 2022 5:30 pm

Starting to think another 4 years of Hunchback and Victoria will decent into chaos.

Mater
November 19, 2022 5:32 pm

You also reckon Knuckles flunked out of basic training and has a kill count higher than Simo Haya.

Must be a “spook”…like everyone else.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 5:33 pm

They may not knock it on the head Dot. Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from taxation. And this sucker is in the process of being passed by Congress, having gone through the Senate with RINO support. It’ll go through the House too, either as a lame duck bill or with House RINOs on side. SCOTUS tends to go with the legislation if it’s not a clear cut violation of the Constitution, since they want Congress to do its job. That Congress has a majority of anti-Christian hypocrites doesn’t especially change the equation.

Christians will just grit their teeth and pay up. Persecution is not entirely a new phenomenon.

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 5:34 pm

Flyingduk:

they can’t even keep drugs, weapons or mobile phones out of prisons

Seem to be doing all right with a couple of particular classes of ‘citizen’.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 5:34 pm

A new Harvard poll found that Fatty Trump is the clear front-runner in a hypothetical 2024 Republican primary, leading Ron DeSanctimonious by 18 points. The poll found that 46% of Republican voters would support Fatty Trump, compared to 28% who support DeSanctimonious. (Cue spooky muzak …) Mike Pence received just 7% support. Ted Cruz came in fourth place in the poll with 3%, while Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, and Dim Scott each polled at 2%, with Jeb Bush polling at 0%.

Custard will presumably be very pleased about this poll.

Bluey
Bluey
November 19, 2022 5:35 pm

I thought my opinion of my local MP couldn’t sink lower (career poly, grrrr), but he’s jumped straight on Dan’s coattails and declared his support for anyone not voting Labor are evil racist nazis.

Fuckwit.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 19, 2022 5:37 pm

99% of the problems on this blog could be solved by dragging off three posters..
And struth ain’t one of them

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 5:40 pm

99% of the problems on this blog could be solved by dragging off three posters..
And struth ain’t one of them

Funny you mention him, Wally Waffler. He’s another one who advocates the wholesale murder of people he disagrees with.

Delta A
Delta A
November 19, 2022 5:41 pm

Is everyone drinking early today? You all sound a bit snarky.

I’m as happy as a pig in apple sauce.

This morning, I made a batch of piccalilli which will mature just in time to pack out Christmas baskets. And… this afternoon, prepared all the fruit for a good rum soak tonight*, before we do the big Christmas pudding thing tomorrow.

I’m making extras again this year: mini puddings suitably adorned for Christmas presents for neighbours and my cleaner/dear friend who, occasionally, needs a little extra TLC.

*I love a big sniff of the bowl next morning; that sweet, rummy bouquet that I’ve savoured for more than my 50+ years of marriage; taking me back to my childhood.

Oh, and now I’m going to enjoy an icy cold Chardy… or two.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 19, 2022 5:42 pm

One out of three already

Mater
November 19, 2022 5:42 pm

I thought my opinion of my local MP couldn’t sink lower (career poly, grrrr), but he’s jumped straight on Dan’s coattails and declared his support for anyone not voting Labor are evil racist nazis.

Well, it’s the obvious thing to do.
Frees them (and Monty*) up to just randomly assault them in the street.

* I admit to being vaguely amused at the possible sight of Monty flailing his spaghetti arms in front of my face, and possibly even landing a couple of bitch slaps. I think the inevitable laughter might even preclude retaliation.

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 5:43 pm

FlyingDuk:
The Bitcoin network is a computer program that runs on multiple countries on every country on earth (no sure about Antarctica).
They will probably be running on the excess power from the nukes in the 5 Chinese Bases in the Antarctic. Especially the 3 that are in the Australian Antarctic Territory that our government refuses to demand be removed.

Zipster
November 19, 2022 5:44 pm

A gender imbalance emerges among trans teens seeking treatment
Adolescents assigned female at birth account for a significant majority of minors receiving gender-affirming care, including top surgery, fueling debate about the influence of peer groups and social media.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 5:45 pm

It’s very funny to watch. Those commenters here boisterously demanding others are muffled are the most unappealing, uninteresting, boring commenters here. They have almost zero interesting to say.

Mater
November 19, 2022 5:45 pm

* I admit to being vaguely amused at the possible sight of Monty flailing his spaghetti arms in front of my face, and possibly even landing a couple of bitch slaps. I think the inevitable laughter might even preclude retaliation.

Can you imagine the sway those bingo wings would have?

Zipster
November 19, 2022 5:47 pm

Dozens of court docs relating to eight of pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s associates – including billionaire hotel magnate and female Brit – will be UNSEALED after judge rules public interest outweighs right to privacy
Judge Loretta Preska on Friday ordered dozens of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein’s associates to be unsealed
The bombshell papers are part of a defamation case that victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre brought against the financier’s madam and facilitator, Ghislaine Maxwell
The judge overrode objections from Tom Pritzker, the billionaire executive chairman of the Hyatt Hotels
In his submission to the court, Pritzker claimed it would ‘wrongfully harm (his) privacy and reputation’ if material related to him was made public
A total of 16 ‘Non-Party Does’ objected to the release of the files being made public and half have already been dealt with by the federal court in New York
The latest batch related to the remaining eight, referred to as Does 12, 28, 97, 107, 144, 147, 171, and 183

calli
calli
November 19, 2022 5:48 pm

Chuckle. The LORD will stir up many people tomorrow.

My days of boiled pudding making are long over. But for those who continue the tradition…don’t forget to kiss the cook.

m0nty
m0nty
November 19, 2022 5:49 pm

It’s very funny to watch. Those commenters here boisterously demanding others are muffled are the most unappealing, uninteresting, boring commenters here. They have almost zero interesting to say.

NPCs gotta NPC.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 5:49 pm

Is everyone drinking early today? You all sound a bit snarky

No earlier than usual. It has been a productive day, nonetheless. Beautiful breakfast, a run in some perfect Sydney weather (sunny, 24 degrees, low humidity) followed by washing the car (which was filthy and not cleaned since April, wheels were basically black) and communing with some neighbores and their dogues.

Stage one of the three stages of preparing the car for the south coast drive with Miss Emily is now complete. It’s still sunny and warm, I’m listening to some favourite tunes and life is good.

Take that, you nayzee b’stard! 🙂

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 19, 2022 5:50 pm

I’m reminded of that weighty charade Shantaram, which I was forced to hate-read through a bookclub which, as a man, I was unwise to get entangled with in the first place.
The protagonist was such a zero, it was obviously a work of self-serving agrandisement by the charlatan author, who convinced Oprah Productions Inc and thereby her followers, that it was a true story. He- the author and his cypher leading man- had no past, no hobbies, no mates, no movies or books, no footy team, no favourite record… he hardly even existed outside the book, and was insufferably boring because his only purpose in life was to exist for his own self-authored pantomime.
He- Gregory Davis Roberts iirc- is as boring as batshit, and his book was too, even though it was technically tight and financially successful.

calli
calli
November 19, 2022 5:50 pm

including top surgery

Seriously?

It’s called breast removal or mastectomy you mendacious mengeles.

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