Open Thread – Weekend 19 Nov 2022


Dark Forest, Ivan Shishkin, 1890


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Zipster
Zipster
November 19, 2022 11:46 pm

well well well looky here.

According to @GiganticRebirth
& @GCRClassic, Alameda/FTX played the role of OTC counterparty for large futures bets on Donald Trump winning the 2024 US Presidential election.

A draft of an FTX asset log shared by @minigrogu shows $7.3M of assets tied up in “Trump to Lose” bets.

remember we on the cat couldnt believe someone was taking these what should have been bad bets. obviously they knew the fix was in

Rabz
November 20, 2022 12:10 am
Rabz
November 20, 2022 12:31 am
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 20, 2022 12:37 am

Fucking great python just fell out of a tree and into my garden bed about eight feet away.

THUMP rustle rustle FUUUUCCCCCK.

It fucked off immediately in the other direction. That’s it. Farter time.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 20, 2022 12:37 am

I find meself suddenly locked out of the YouTube, specifically music. No links I click through from Das Cat work, and I can not cue up any choons, all I get is bedsitter tutorials of all my favourite riffs.
Is YT bumping the punters into a subscription, timed in amongst the convolutions at Twatter?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 20, 2022 12:39 am

G’night KD, don’t blame you. Those scaley fuckers are bad enough sober, there’s no telling what they’ll try on when they’re too pissed to hang onto a branch.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 1:02 am

Yawn.

rickw
rickw
November 20, 2022 1:05 am
JC
JC
November 20, 2022 1:06 am

This is how it’s done.

On Friday, Marjorie Taylor Greene texted Steve Bannon on The War Room after the announcement of a new Special Counsel investigation. MTG told Steve Bannon she spoke with Kevin McCarthy and he will not fund another garbage special counsel investigation of President Trump.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 20, 2022 1:32 am

You Tube art rock test-
Well, well, well… another day

rickw
rickw
November 20, 2022 2:36 am

Democrat shorter: poor black people shouldn’t have access to guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czeym-mYhgY

Democrats and gun control really getting back to their roots!

Tom
Tom
November 20, 2022 4:01 am

Week In Pictures — with a guest appearance by the Canberra clownshow.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 4:05 am

Yep, 100% true and accurate.

The new Trump special investigation has two purposes:

1) Make Trump a martyr during the primaries thus giving him a better chance to win the GOP nomination

2) Sow chaos and doubt to sink Trump with moderates and independents so that he loses the Presidential election

That’s it

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 5:13 am

Listen to the experts the NYTimes dredges up.

The New York Times
@nytimes
President Biden turns 80 on Sunday, and would be 86 at the end of a second term. The New York Times spoke to 10 experts in aging about what the next six years might look like for a person of that age. They agreed that Biden has a lot going in his favor.

Hiden’s perfectly fine.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 20, 2022 6:17 am

Piers Akerman:

Pardonnez moi, Monsieur Macron, tu me fais chier avec tes conneries. (Translation: Pardon me, Mr Macron, you’re pissing me off with your bullshit).
The French President is clearly still riled by Scott Morrison’s government’s decision to place Australia’s national defence interests ahead of diplomatic niceties and dump Malcolm Turnbull’s idiotic plan to spend $90 billion converting French nuclear-powered submarines into Australian diesel-powered subs.
According to French leader, Morrison’s decision to tear up the dumb contract and sign up to the AUKUS agreement with our natural allies, the UK and the US, was provocative and risked “nuclear confrontation” with China. Forgetting that the contract was loaded in France’s favour from the get-go, Macron told a press conference before last week’s APEC summit in Thailand that France had been helping Australia achieve “freedom and sovereignty” because the French submarines could be built and maintained domestically.
“So it was both industrial co-operation and giving sovereignty to Australia, because they will maintain the submarines themselves, and it is not confrontational to China because they are not nuclear-powered submarines.
“But the choice made by (former) prime minister Morrison was the opposite, re-entering into nuclear confrontation, making himself completely dependent by deciding to equip themselves (with a) submarine fleet that the Australians are incapable of producing and maintaining in-house.”
Macron, whose country has a nuclear submarine fleet which apparently isn’t a threat to anyone, even had the temerity to suggest that the French were still interested in flogging submarines to Australia – but that must have been for his domestic audience.
He certainly needs to distract the folk at home because a series of lurid sex scandals associated with former colleagues who also graduated from his alma mater, the elite Sciences Po (SciPo) which produces most of France’s top-ranking bureaucrats, is dominating the headlines.
Among those involved are his close friend and associate Laurent Bigorgne, who is currently on trial for spiking his sister-in-law’s champagne with ecstasy, and Olivier Duhamel, the former president of the Sciences Po National Foundation, who earlier this year confessed to sexually abusing his step-son.
The strategic decision by Morrison to cancel the irrational $90 billion contract and become a formative member of AUKUS was correct and was even endorsed by Labor Prime Minister Anthony Albanese when he took office.
The decision on whether the deal to deliver our future nuclear-powered submarine fleet is with the British or the Americans will be made next year after the current defence review is completed.
Taking advice from the French, as much as we may enjoy their contributions to the world of wine and cuisine, would be unwise as historians well know.
Immediately before WWII, France had the largest standing army with the greatest number of tanks in the world but they surrendered to the Germans in barely six weeks.
Within five days of launching their attack on May 10, 1940, the Germans had crossed the Netherlands and Belgium, and then, following General Erich von Manstein’s masterly strategy, ducked around France’s so-called impregnable Maginot Line, with the French surrendering on June 22.
As a former US defence representative Jeb Babbin famously said in 2003 during a discussion on the differences between European and US strategy in the Iraq war: “… you know frankly, going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. You just leave a lot of useless noisy baggage behind.”
The French sub deal was baggage Australia didn’t need to sign in 2016 and it certainly wasn’t necessary for Macron to bring it up six years later.
China has long shown it needs no provocation to give Australia the cold shoulder and those (like former Labor Foreign Minister Bob Carr) who claimed Australia unnecessarily baited the Celestial Kingdom and was in some way responsible for China’s sanctions on beef, coal, wine and barley, need to take off their Sinophilic blinkers.
Albanese spent 32 minutes with China’s leader-for-life Xi Jinping in Bali during which time he managed to rattle off a number of points through an interpreter and to which, again through an interpreter, Xi responded with a diplomatic noncommittal. Subtract the time taken for the two-way translations and those 32 minutes shrink significantly.
Hardly a breakthrough but Albanese later muddied things by claiming Taiwan, our friend and ally, was ineligible to join the world’s largest trading bloc.
Was this a pay-off for getting to see Xi? Our allies, particularly Japan, South Korea and Taiwan need to know.
Otherwise, Albanese’s diplomatic dance is as productive as Energy and Climate Change Minister Chris Bowen’s grandstanding giveaway trip to Egypt’s Sharm El-Sheikh resort for COP27.
Which goes to show that neither Albanese or Bowen should be allowed out without supervision.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 20, 2022 6:29 am

I assume lots of butcher paper was used? James Campbell in the Telegraph:

More than $2 million was spent in just three weeks on consultants by Energy Minister Chris Bowen’s department.
The spendathon by the Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water came despite a promise when Labor was in ­opposition to cut back on the amount of taxpayers’ money spent on expensive external consultants.
The biggest winner was one of the “Big Four” accounting firms KPMG, which has won more than $735,000 for three contracts to give professional advice on electricity market modelling, gas market regulatory impact analysis and energy policy research.
They were closely followed by EY — formerly known as Ernst & Young — which won a contract for $161,000 for professional advice on electricity market modelling and another for $247,644 for professional advice on energy policy.
Their rival PwC — formerly Price Waterhouse Cooper — hasn’t missed out either. They will be paid $273,900 by the department for “Professional Advice”.
The single biggest contract went to ACIL ALLEN, which will be paid $346,267 for professional advice on gas reliability standards.
Other winners include Common Capital, which will get $184,045.40 for professional advice on external power supplies, Aurora Energy Research — $33,000 for research and price forecasts and analysis — and DT Gilbert & S Nickless & WR Spain, who have won $83,600 for professional advice on the Paris climate change agreement.
The contracts were let between October 18 and November 7, and come despite the department employing thousands of public servants.
Opposition Leader Peter Dutton said the spending on consultants showed that, despite promising 97 times before the election to lower power bills, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese had no idea which way to jump on energy prices.
“The government has us on a track to higher prices and the increasing prospect of blackouts. And now we know they are scrambling and spending millions of dollars at external consultants to try and fix the energy market,” he said.
“They are making it up as they go, and it’s just not good enough and the Prime Minister and Mr Bowen need to explain this increased spending on external consultants.”
A spokesman for Mr Bowen said the consultants had been necessary for creating a new department.
“Labor went to the election promising to significant reduce spending on corporate labour hire and external management contracts,” he said.
“Finance Minister Katy Gallagher is in the process of modernising the APS (Australian Public Service), including an internal consulting model which is under development.
“Until that reform is ­completed, it is appropriate to engage consultants where it is required.”

FMD

miltonf
miltonf
November 20, 2022 6:44 am

FMD indeed- they hold the demos in complete contempt

calli
calli
November 20, 2022 6:46 am

A spokesman for Mr Bowen said the consultants had been necessary for creating a new department.

Of course. When you run out of ideas you create more bureaucracy.

Sure to fix it.

miltonf
miltonf
November 20, 2022 6:47 am

It still pisses me off that the pubic parasites and their polimuppett socks in canbra even got involved in gas and electricity. It was a state issue. Hilmer reforms I expect. Amuses me what happened when they put that egg head in charge of an actual company.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 20, 2022 6:49 am

I saw the article last night about the academics Sutton and Walsh being drawn into the culture wars to refute the comical excesses of Pascoe’s tome of fantasy.

That could be another wing to the AWM, don’t you think Mr Nelson. It would be one hell of an exhibit. The tattoos and body piercings, the face paint and ferocious hair of the warriors are far more shocking, and the screeched war-cries of ‘Patriarchy!’ and ‘Fascist!’ far more blood curdling than anything European explorers ever faced.

miltonf
miltonf
November 20, 2022 6:50 am

Garbage like Bowen and Anal are incapable of new ideas. Their parasitic privilege ensures this.

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 20, 2022 7:01 am

I have often asked the rhetorical question about the USA “how deep is the rot?”
This latest post concerning those apprehended for the best part of two years for allegedly trying to foment an insurrection on January 6th tells us exactly how deep. It is very disturbing.
Gateway Pundit, because you won’t read about it in the MSM.

Mater
November 20, 2022 7:01 am

“So it was both industrial co-operation and giving sovereignty to Australia, because they will maintain the submarines themselves, and it is not confrontational to China because they are not nuclear-powered submarines.

Ok, so let’s analysis this load of bumpkin from Macron.

If we buy his conceptualised, untested, half-breed mongrel boats, they represent a non-confrontational option (presumably because China’s not scared of them – and I see their point)?

If we buy a proven nuclear option, it’s a confrontational option (presumably because China’s sacred of them)?

Putting aside our government’s recent poor success rate with ‘untested’ and rushed purchases (I’m looking at you TGA), one might hope that when acquiring military hardware, they might lean towards that which represents a threat to any potential enemy. One might even think such rumblings from China represents the final confirmation that you’re on the right track, given that proposed hardware’s greatest characteristic is it’s deterrent effect.

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 20, 2022 7:03 am

We saw the beginning of such totalitarianism right here in the shape of excessive policing and fines related to enforcement of over the top covid rules.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 20, 2022 7:11 am
Anchor What
Anchor What
November 20, 2022 7:17 am

There’s a lot of babble in the half term post mortems about “candidate quality”.
This is rubbish. Given the mess that the Dems have made of so many things, a free and fair election with cleansed voter rolls and paper ballots done in person on the day (at least to the extent that we do such things here) and no dodgy machine tabulation, would have seen the Dems all but obliterated.
The rot is deep.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2022 7:23 am

There’s a lot of babble in the half term post mortems about “candidate quality”.

What, like Fetterman?
I don’t think so.

Indolent
Indolent
November 20, 2022 7:28 am
Entropy
Entropy
November 20, 2022 7:31 am

Finance Minister Katy Gallagher is in the process of modernising the APS (Australian Public Service), including an internal consulting model which is under development.
“Until that reform is ­completed, it is appropriate to engage consultants where it is required.

I see a greater growth in corporate/HR oversight, additional spending and recruitment on inward looking campaigns, and more emphasis on a “mobile public service” for the sociopathic ladder climbers funded by a downgrading of professional service delivery and content knowledge.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 20, 2022 7:35 am

More than $2 million was spent in just three weeks on consultants by Energy Minister Chris Bowen’s department.

That is a very expensive way of getting the consultants to say what the Angry Post Turtle wanted to hear – when “I agree with you Minister, you are genius” would’ve cost nothing from the already paid-for ABfnC

Indolent
Indolent
November 20, 2022 7:35 am

COVID-19 Vaccine Injury, Syndrome Not a Disease: FLCCC Conference Shares How to Treat It

Post-vaccine injury syndrome is “a multi-system syndrome … it’s not a disease,” Marik said. The condition does not fit a disease model, and therefore rather than targeting the symptoms, the entire body must be treated holistically.

At last, a serious look at reversing the damage done by the vaccine.

calli
calli
November 20, 2022 7:37 am

“Modernising the APS” is the perennial shorthand for featherbedding and wasting taxpayer’s money.

If ever there was an organisation ripe for “re-wilding”, it’s the APS. Can we go back to say, a leaner, greener pre-1950’s format? We are with our power supplies, why not the bureaucracy?

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2022 7:44 am

Anchor Whatsays:
November 20, 2022 at 7:17 am
There’s a lot of babble in the half term post mortems about “candidate quality”.
This is rubbish. Given the mess that the Dems have made of so many things,

Because Fetterman was such a brilliant DemonRat candidate?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2022 7:45 am

Me too

Haha, Rick Wilson back in circulation? George Conway is also.
I wonder if that means the Lincoln Project (hoho) got a recent cash injection from a certain crypto guy?

Indolent
Indolent
November 20, 2022 7:45 am
Indolent
Indolent
November 20, 2022 7:50 am

Soros-backed Org Urges Musk to Continue Censoring Donald Trump in Globalist Effort to Undermine Democracy

Apparently, Musk must maintain the Trump ban to protect “their” democracy.

Indolent
Indolent
November 20, 2022 7:51 am

Like a good little messenger boy.

NOW – UK PM Sunak visits Kyiv to meet Zelensky.

m0nty
m0nty
November 20, 2022 7:53 am

Candidate quality mattered slightly in at the margins, but by far the biggest two factors was the red wave against Biden crashing into the blue wave against Dobbs. They largely cancelled each other out with a small tendency to deliver GOP House seats, but there were some states like MI and PA where it delivered wins for Democrats.

If SCOTUS hadn’t done what it did, we would now be talking about a Republican majority of 80-100 House seats and double figures in the Senate.

Indolent
Indolent
November 20, 2022 7:56 am
Indolent
Indolent
November 20, 2022 8:00 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2022 8:01 am

m0ntysays:
November 20, 2022 at 7:53 am
Candidate quality mattered slightly in at the margins, but by far the biggest two factors was the red wave against Biden crashing into the blue wave against Dobbs. They largely cancelled each other out with a small tendency to deliver GOP House seats, but there were some states like MI and PA where it delivered wins for Democrats.

If SCOTUS hadn’t done what it did, we would now be talking about a Republican majority of 80-100 House seats and double figures in the Senate.

I see that the Talking Points email has arrived.

Mater
November 20, 2022 8:03 am

There’s a lot of babble in the half term post mortems about “candidate quality”.
This is rubbish.

They voted in a dead guy.
Admittedly, this variety of politician is probably the safest pair of hands, nowadays, but it doesn’t say much for the theory.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2022 8:04 am

there were some states like MI and PA where it delivered wins for Democrats.

m0nty=fa remains blind to DemonRat electoral rorting and suppression of GOP voters. Everything was Dodds, and there were no other influences.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 8:10 am

For one of the great political takedowns of all time, it’s still almost impossible to surpass areff’s mighty denunciation of the victorian gliberals following the righteous punting of Denny Naptime and his somnambulists in 2014, which gifted us the cult of dan the grotesque deformed jug eared imbecile creature, man.

Areff can truly write up a storm. Where is he, still in the US or back in Oz?

bons
bons
November 20, 2022 8:12 am

Indolent,
Thank you for the FTX link.
What a fetid soup.
I have just shot myself.

Mater
November 20, 2022 8:14 am

Can we go back to say, a leaner, greener pre-1950’s format?

Hell Calli, that’d almost double the unemployment figures overnight.
No politician’s going near that.

What else (useful) are policy wonks, who know nothing else but the greasy pole, going to do in this country? There’s only so much room in the fantasy football space.

Mater
November 20, 2022 8:19 am

Monty,
I notice you’ve been ignoring my comments about your shilling about the necessity of women having freedom over their own bodies, whilst completely ignoring the recent issue of vaccine mandates.

Why is that?
Is the cognitive dissonance required likely to throw you into an epileptic fit?

Indolent
Indolent
November 20, 2022 8:21 am

A stomach churningly powerful essay.

war on everything
including and especially you

it’s easy to focus on the issue of “look at all the power that was usurped by the state under covid!” and presume that this is the sweaty palmed avaricious dream of leviathan coming to fruition, but it’s not.

this is a coup.

this is capture.

this is the taking of power from “the government” and placing it in the hands of what can only be called an oligarchy, an aristocracy.

and this is a pivotal distinction. even those who think they favor “big government” are getting bilked as “useful idiots.”

now pause for a moment and consider the sort of person who, after the extravagant and complete failure to not only grasp ANY of the relevant salients but to produce any useful response whatsoever over the last 3 years while literally destroying the global economy, education, mental health, and running roughshod in unprecedented fashion upon the rights of the free world to chase warped science, fraud, and superstitious nonsense thinks:

you know what we need? more power to do this faster and harder next time!

now ask yourself: with whom or what are these people at war?

(because it sure as hell is not disease)

Any vaccine, not just Covid.

Indonesian Health Minister Budi Gunadi Sadikin, speaking on the matter on behalf of the G20 host country, had earlier in the summit called for a “digital health certificate” using WHO standards.

Sadikin advocated for that he dubbed a “digital health certificate” which shows whether a person has been “vaccinated or tested properly” so that only then “you can move around”. Watch his comments during a G20 Bali panel discussion earlier in the week…

G20 to adopt Vaccine Passports using WHO standards

“Let’s have a digital health certificate acknowledged by WHO… if you have been vaccinated or tested properly, then you can move around”, said the Indonesian health minister in Bali

it creates a vast international system of required compliance. it locks you in place by forcing a credential to travel upon you. the standards to get this passport are created by an unaccountable and increasingly rogue organization (the WHO) that is controlled predominantly by china (whose views on social credit and surveillance societies make orwell look like thomas paine) and the cardigan adorned james bond villain aspirant himself bill gates who has been probably the most successful plague profiteer in human history.

Read it all. This is our world today.

bons
bons
November 20, 2022 8:28 am

Our shin grabbers are playing the Frog shin grabbers on the 23rd.
Ho hum.

Mater
November 20, 2022 8:30 am

C’mon Monty, rather then vomit out talking points on this blog, how about the put together some actual thought, and meaningful words.

I’m am genuinely interested in how you (in your own mind) can separate the issue of bodily autonomy into two distinct packages, that exist on opposite ends of the spectrum, and believe in them both.

I know women who support ‘reproductive rights’, but to their credit, they despised the vaccine mandates with a passion. They were consistent. They based their position on the principle, not the party.

Let’s hear your rationale.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 8:31 am

m0nty says:
November 20, 2022 at 7:53 am

Candidate quality mattered slightly in at the margins, but by far the biggest two factors was the red wave against Biden crashing into the blue wave against Dobbs.

Enuff with the analogies, Fatboy. Yours are always stupid. There actually was a red wave with a 12 million vote turnaround since the 2020 election. It would be much more if we discounted the cheating that went on in 20. You had a dead demonrat and serious stroke victim as candidates … and you’re talking about candidate quality. You fat idiot.

They largely cancelled each other out with a small tendency to deliver GOP House seats, but there were some states like MI and PA where it delivered wins for Democrats.

There were states like NY and Cali which delivered the lower house to the GOP.

P
P
November 20, 2022 8:32 am

Sunday is the Feast of Christ the King. Here’s why it still matters.

Christ the King offers both a hopeful and a sobering reminder to Christians, whose loyalty to Jesus becomes subordinated to political ideology.

It was instituted in 1925 by Pope Pius XI in an encyclical titled “Quas Primas” and was Pius’ response to the increasing secularization and nationalism in the aftermath of World War I, which saw the fall of the royal houses of the Hohenzollerns, Romanovs, Habsburgs and the Ottoman Empire, all within four gruesome years.

h/t msn.com
N.B. The author of the above article is not a Catholic.

132andBush
132andBush
November 20, 2022 8:34 am

If SCOTUS hadn’t done what it did, we would now be talking about a Republican majority of 80-100 House seats and double figures in the Senate.

Killing other humans is a big thing for some.

Dot
Dot
November 20, 2022 8:34 am

It still pisses me off that the pubic parasites and their polimuppett socks in canbra even got involved in gas and electricity. It was a state issue. Hilmer reforms I expect.

The Hilmer reforms were objectively good and a great success.

Everything went pear shaped as soon as the Kyoto Treaty was agreed to.

Yes he was an egg_ masquerading as an egggead and a woke loonie.

NCP was a good policy and the reason why the coalition didn’t repeal it wasn’t “uni party”. The complete opposite of Abbott leaving the FWA in place.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 8:35 am

Entropy. Things falling apart, the graceless face of time.

So many things need to be done around the house, as one notes on one’s return.

I was awake between 2am and 3.30am last nite in one of those jetlagged situations, where I take the opportunity to catch up on the Cat. Hairy had a similar jetsomnia the night before last while I was blissfully sleeping. In order to tire himself out, he told me later he spent a couple of hours recalling and counting his flights made across the Pacific: thirty-one of them.
Next time you can start counting those to the UK and Europe, I say.

I don’t think he’s included Pacific holiday islands in his Pacific count, although safari trips to Africa always ended in the UK, so they will have to be included in his next sleepless recall. So will his flights from Singapore to Darwin after his overland travel from the UK to Oz in 1975.
He can keep China/Asia flights for another nite. He took me to Vancouver via Shanghai in 2019, I guess that is included in the Pacific count rather than the Asian. End destination is the criterion.

So much flying. No wonder his legs are full of the DVT lumpy scars of honour.
He’s now contemplating flying to the UK soon for his stepmother’s funeral. I worry.

Such a count wouldn’t work for me. I can’t remember them all, totally muddle the dates, and have logged up far fewer anyway. I wonder if my coming out to Oz in 1946 and going back to the UK and then back to Oz, all by ocean liner, in 1951-53 – the pre-flight era, would count. As with all things far distant, my memories of these are better recalled.

Apparently memories recalled best are those held longest. They become more imprinted.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 20, 2022 8:35 am

Which country will be first to have an uprising (maybe civil war) against the wokeists?

Lord John
November 20, 2022 8:35 am

Test

sfw
sfw
November 20, 2022 8:37 am

Here’s a link to an analysis of the group voting tickets for the Vic Upper House, Northern Region. So many parties and candidates, it shows who hates who and I’m surprised at some of the freedom/conservative parties that have put UAP and PHON well down the preference list. It shows how much they hate each other more than they hate Labor or the Greens.

https://www.abc.net.au/dat/news/elections/vic/2022/guide/gvt/VIC2022-GVTs-Northern-Victoria.pdf

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 8:38 am

NBC is calling the House 221 GOP and 214 Demons. That’s good enough for me.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 8:38 am

Which country will be first to have an uprising (maybe civil war) against the wokeists?

Possibly Germany.
They are a pugnacious lot.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 20, 2022 8:39 am

Content knowledge in the APS is bullshit. Farm off the old ones who have been there and done that. Everyone wants their say especially the ones who haven’t a clue. Getting rid of anyone who knows anything is par for the course so policies can be implemented that never worked before. Churning so nothing actually gets better. Daughter left after spending 80% of time explaining what she was doing to her manager coz they didn’t have a clue. The APS seems to think having generic managers with no subject knowledge is a good thing. Overpaid and not responsible for failure except upward promotion. To many levels of management. Most of the APS wouldn’t survive in the private sector.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 8:40 am

NBC is calling the House 221 GOP and 214 Demons. That’s good enough for me.

Yup. Pretty red wavey.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 20, 2022 8:40 am

put together some actual thought

Error, Error, Error, Error Will Robinson it does not compute.

You ask too much of a first generation troll.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 8:40 am

incoherent rambler says:
November 20, 2022 at 8:35 am

Which country will be first to have an uprising (maybe civil war) against the wokeists?

None. Wokism has peaked. Musk will also annihilate it.

Dot
Dot
November 20, 2022 8:40 am

Whinging about the NCP as a reason for government spending on lickspittle consultants is as flawed as blaming “property developers!” for unaffordable housing, not how much tax you pay at every step.

Just look at:

1. What taxes you actually pay.
2. How the States being in charge wasn’t that great with Prime Marionette Morrison.
3. What actually led to price increases year by year. Surprise surprise taxes increase housing unaffordability and green ideology tracks with energy prices.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 20, 2022 8:41 am

Did Biden Trick Students With Loan Waiver To Get Votes?

The new GOP House should investigate the executive order’s inherent dishonesty of bait and switch.

TIPPINSIGHTS EDITORIAL BOARD
November 19, 2022

In one of his gaffes last week, President Biden let slip how his actions to reach out to younger voters had paid dividends for his party at the polls.

“I especially want to thank the young people of this nation,” Biden said, according to Politico, adding that they “voted in historic numbers.” Those young voters, he said, “voted to continue addressing the climate crisis, gun violence, their personal rights and freedoms, and the student debt relief.”

At issue here is his mention of student debt relief. By executive action, he had ordered the Department of Education to provide loan relief of up to $10,000 per debtor. Over 26 million students have applied for loan forgiveness in what would be a massive $400 billion bribe to a particular voting demographic that would help elect more Democrats.

Did Biden administration officials knowingly announce and popularize a program they knew would fail legal scrutiny in the courts? A legal scrutiny that would come after they had curried votes in an otherwise challenging election environment?

Last Thursday, U.S. District Judge Mark Pittman ruled that Biden’s student debt relief program is “an unconstitutional exercise of Congress’s legislative power and must be vacated.” He permanently prohibited the Education Department from carrying out the program. Any appeal by the Department would take the case to the 5th Circuit in New Orleans, where the Department is likely to face defeat.

In a separate case three days later, the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis issued a nationwide injunction temporarily barring the said debt relief program. CNBC reported that the ruling came after six states argued in a lawsuit that the program threatens their future tax revenues and circumvents congressional authority.

How could the administration market an E.O. that was legally so shaky? Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders constantly discussed student loan relief during their 2020 campaigns, but they never brought up a bill in Congress that passed both chambers. Student loan relief was part of the $6 trillion B.B.B. monster, which died in the Senate last December.

Indeed, Judge Pittman harshly rebuked the administration for this misstep. “No one can plausibly deny that it is either one of the largest delegations of legislative power to the executive branch or one of the largest exercises of legislative power without congressional authority in the history of the United States.”

Still, Biden officials actively promoted the forgiveness program, baiting 26 million students to vote for the party that was providing relief of up to $20,000 for Pell Grant recipients.

“We are confident in our legal authority for the student debt relief program and believe it is necessary to help borrowers most in need as they recover from the pandemic,” White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said this week, dishonestly.

Using the pandemic as an excuse to provide relief was contrary to the administration’s own stated position. In April, the administration announced that Title 42, a C.D.C. provision to turn away migrants at the border, was no longer required because the pandemic was under control. If the pandemic is no longer an issue for migrants, how could it become a factor for students?

The new GOP House should investigate the executive order’s inherent dishonesty of bait and switch. With little chance of the loan relief now passing both chambers and becoming law, the House should subpoena senior administration members and have them testify under oath.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 20, 2022 8:44 am

green ideology tracks with energy prices

Let the peasants huddle together for warmth.
Tightly grouped together also makes them an easier target.

Bluey
Bluey
November 20, 2022 8:45 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
November 20, 2022 at 8:10 am
For one of the great political takedowns of all time, it’s still almost impossible to surpass areff’s mighty denunciation of the victorian gliberals following the righteous punting of Denny Naptime and his somnambulists in 2014, which gifted us the cult of dan the grotesque deformed jug eared imbecile creature, man.

Areff can truly write up a storm. Where is he, still in the US or back in Oz?

And I note everything written in that article still applies to the Vic Liberal party.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 20, 2022 8:47 am

OldOzzie says:
November 19, 2022 at 3:13 pm

Just applied to renew my Australian Passport on Friday

My daughter just updated hers. Arrived in the post well ahead of the advertised response time. The backlog seems well-and-truely cleared.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 20, 2022 8:51 am

C’mon Monty, rather then vomit out talking points on this blog, how about the put together some actual thought, and meaningful words. I’m am genuinely interested in how you (in your own mind) can separate the issue of bodily autonomy into two distinct packages, that exist on opposite ends of the spectrum, and believe in them both.

I will take a stab, in case Monty is at church:

1) Abortion is about killing babies – the left likes that, they are nihilists and are dedicated to ‘tearing stuff down’, not building things. Their moral compass allows them to let adults use children as human shields.

2) Vaccine mandates are also about killing babies (as the ~ 20+% falls in fertility in highly vaxxed countries show). In addition, given the risk benefit profile is skewed against the young, ie all risk no benefit, you get some extra kills there too.

Its perfectly consistent.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 8:51 am

Nope, no election fraud. Not a single fraudulent ballot in the entire election.

Only days after a midterm election that dragged on for days beyond Election Day, Pennsylvania’s attorney announced the arrest of a Democratic consultant for orchestrating ‘widespread’ ballot fraud that included forging thousands of signatures.

Attorney General Josh Shapiro on Wednesday announced the arrest of Rasheen Crews, a Philadelphia-based Democratic consultant, for charges related to forging signatures on nomination petitions to get his clients on the ballot for the 2019 Democratic primary races in Philadelphia.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 8:52 am

I used to have a fantastic memory, recall of names and content of books etc.
Less so now. I can get so irritated when I can’t momentarily lock in a reference I know well.
Ten minutes later recall kicks in and once more I have it front of mind.
By this time I have usually exercised my brain enough to get a hold of it on Google,
e.g. famous author Muslim fatwa name of

Google is a kindly friend of the elderly thinker.
As long as you are seeking things you already know.
You can’t trust it otherwise, that’s a given. 🙂

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 20, 2022 8:53 am

LEADERSHIP STRATEGY

Amid Tech Layoffs, Executives Weigh Suddenly Controversial Diversity Initiatives

The drama and division that afflicted school boards this past year may be coming to medical schools next – as the medical school rating outfit battles with dissident professors and activist groups over diversity and inclusion initiatives.

As corporate executives consider hiring freezes and layoffs – even at tech giants like Amazon, which announced its first layoffs in more than a decade this week, and Facebook, whose parent company Meta announced layoffs of 11,000 tech workers – typically marketing, HR, and diversity workers are targeted first. Given the political battles raging at public high schools and colleges and now medical schools, executives might want to weigh more carefully whether it is prudent to trim “soft” jobs that are disproportionately held by women and minorities.

While executives weigh their options, a closer look at the emerging controversy at medical schools might be instructive and illuminating.

It all began when the Association of American Medical Colleges conducted a survey of medical schools to monitor their efforts to enroll and educate more women and minorities. The association, which also has the singular power to approve or decline the accreditation for medical schools that makes federal funding possible, gives it incredible power over medical schools.

So far it was business as usual. Then, Dr. Stanley Goldfarb, a board-certified kidney specialist, objected. “Why are they deciding that diversity, equity, and inclusion has to be a central part of American medical education?”

A school like the University of Michigan has 140 people in their diversity, equity and inclusion office. Now, these people are now very powerful in the institution, they push the institution to spend huge amounts of money on consultants who can spend $100,000 for a one-day retreat,” said Goldfarb. “They’ll bring in famous speakers, and they’ll tell the institution how systemically racist it was.”

“Institutions [during the pandemic] suddenly declared that they were racist. A small group of activists around the country pushed this issue so strongly that schools decided to adopt it,” said Goldfarb. “It’s much easier to accept this than to fight it.”

Now the battle lines are being drawn between medical schools’ accreditation body and a small nonprofit backed by a ragtag band of dissident doctors. The fighting is raging on newspaper editorial pages, including in the New York Post, and across social media and talk radio.

But that consensus may be coming to an end.

Are diversity and inclusion policies suddenly controversial? The first flash point is likely to be which kinds of employees are laid off as tech companies implement the largest waves of staff reductions since the April 2001 “tech wreck.”

In any layoffs, human resources and diversity teams are often the first to go. During Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover, nearly half of Twitter’s 8,000 were let go and employee research groups like Twitter Women and Blackbirds were dismantled. Chief people and diversity officer Dalana Brand resigned the day that Musk took over Twitter.

132andBush
132andBush
November 20, 2022 8:54 am

Another 10mm yesterday.
AGP grade will be the best for wheat from now on. That’s a well over $100/t knock.

Have been direct cutting 2.5-3t/ha canola which is holding up well quality wise. Any windrowed stuff in this area has a lot of mildew now.

Had cause to be through Deniliquin yesterday arvo. People familiar with the place will know the rec oval and toilet block just on the north side of the Edward River bridge, there’s only 1.5m of the toilet block showing.
Businesses sand bagging on the north side of town as a precaution and to rub salt in, when I came back through last night a storm had dumped over 25mm and the town was blacked out.

Looking at the GFS 14 day model there is not let up in sight.

Razey
Razey
November 20, 2022 8:55 am

Indolentsays:
November 20, 2022 at 8:46 am
USA has suffered shocking 350k Excess Deaths in 2022 so far; evidence suggests COVID Vaccination is to blame

This is why they push so hard to get everyone juiced with their gene therapy. They don’t want a control group.

Mater
November 20, 2022 8:55 am

Its perfectly consistent.

That’s a solid effort, flyingduk.
Now I’d like to hear it from the horses mouth.
C’mon Monty, use your words. Upticking flyingduk’s isn’t good enough.

bons
bons
November 20, 2022 8:58 am

The APS exercise in the 80’s and 90’s of booting out all technical expert agencies and replacing them with generalists has been a disaster for the people and a joy for the APS.
The generalists spend multiples of a technical employees salary on hiring consultants whose reports they cannot understand and thus need to hire more consultants to interpret the original babble.
Making technical outfits self governing by setting up statuatory authorities simply allowed ministers to wash their hands of responsibility and gave enormous power to Treasury to deny or shape technical progress through budget action.
The original intent has failed utterly because all of the authorities have been infiltrated by woke APS insurgents. A perfect APS solution, massave salaries, unaccountable and opaque.

mc
mc
November 20, 2022 8:59 am

sfw, great link at 8.37.

Looks like “animal justice party” will get a spot or two with so many parties ranking them so highly. Aren’t they Andy meddicks party?

Looks like dip and one nation bucked the trend and put them to the bottom. Makes me rate dip and one nation ahead of other “freedom” parties.

Razey
Razey
November 20, 2022 9:02 am

C’mon Monty, rather then vomit out talking points on this blog, how about the put together some actual thought, and meaningful words. I’m am genuinely interested in how you (in your own mind) can separate the issue of bodily autonomy into two distinct packages, that exist on opposite ends of the spectrum, and believe in them both.

Logical consistency is not required in Leftard thinking. For example, these dumb fucks think a man can be pregnant and Hunchback is putting free tampons in men toilets. Case closed.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 20, 2022 9:02 am

Why Re-Electing McConnell As Senate Leader Was The Best Gift The GOP Establishment Could Give Trump

Trump’s power is in his willingness and ability to represent the voter forgotten by the establishment. McConnell gives Trump a target.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was re-elected to another term as GOP conference chief on Wednesday after an underwhelming midterm performance kept Republicans from taking a majority in the upper chamber. But McConnell’s win as Republicans lose is just going to be more ammo for former President Donald Trump, who announced a third bid for the White House just one night before the Senate leader’s re-election.

Neither Trump nor McConnell looks triumphant after last week’s elections. Many of Trump’s top candidates lost key races while McConnell emerges as the culprit for losing the majority. McConnell’s PAC, the Senate Leadership Fund (SLF), re-routed scarce resources from competitive pick-up opportunities to the Alaska Senate contest between two Republicans. But while several Trump-backed candidates never made it across the finish line, Trump did not deliberately sabotage the effort. McConnell did, and for it, he draw a last-minute leadership challenge from Florida Sen. Rick Scott.

When McConnell and his allies complain about “candidate quality,” however, they’re not really complaining about the capability of candidates to do the job for which they’ve been nominated. They are complaining about Republican voters — and the people those voters choose to represent them among elites in Washington.

McConnell’s disdain for voter-selected nominees mirrors his aversion to Trump. And the distinction between these two Republican leaders couldn’t be clearer. Voters initially gravitated toward Trump, electing a television celebrity and Manhattan real estate developer with no experience in elected office to hold the highest office in the land because Trump catered to those voters and railed against the Beltway class. McConnell does just the opposite.

McConnell’s re-election to Senate leader is a massive campaign gift to Trump, even though Trump’s chosen candidate, Scott, fell short.

McConnell is the sort of D.C. swamp creature that Trump wins over voters by constantly colliding with.

An 80-year-old lawmaker, McConnell will be the longest-ever serving Senate leader by the end of his latest term. McConnell is the Beltway establishment, with a grip on power that not even a failing midterm performance can undermine.

mc
mc
November 20, 2022 9:02 am

The APS seems to think having generic managers with no subject knowledge is a good thing

VPS is the same, with added benefit of new young managers coming out of ministerial advisor roles.

Mater
November 20, 2022 9:03 am

C’mon Monty, use your words.

Ok, I’ll give you a starting point.
The last person I saw answer this question indicated that, unlike Covid, abortion didn’t kill anybody.

Are you of the same opinion?

Sounds like the start of an argument, I suppose, but not a very good one. Short of other ideas, you could go this route!

Dot
Dot
November 20, 2022 9:03 am

The APS exercise in the 80’s and 90’s of booting out all technical expert agencies and replacing them with generalists has been a disaster for the people and a joy for the APS.

I knew a chick once who worked for the Dept of Finance in climate modelling (!) who was a graduate in…human nutrition!

That was over 10 years ago.

Cassie of Sydney
November 20, 2022 9:04 am

“None. Wokism has peaked. Musk will also annihilate it.”

I’m not so sure JC. Wokism is Cultural Marxism, it’s a stain which is impossible to remove.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 20, 2022 9:08 am

Logical consistency is not required in Leftard thinking.

Actually – thats better than my answer!

Dot
Dot
November 20, 2022 9:08 am

Term limits and sortition would mean career politicians would not be a thing.

It is amazing how the masses were conned with representative democracy with all its wonderful forms of meaningless voting.

Optional preferential voting is the best of a bad bunch.

Razey
Razey
November 20, 2022 9:09 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
November 20, 2022 at 9:04 am
“None. Wokism has peaked. Musk will also annihilate it.”

I’m not so sure JC. Wokism is Cultural Marxism, it’s a stain which is impossible to remove.

As Yuri Bezmenov said, ‘it’s not until the jackboot is crushing balls that people will understand’. He thought that Woke is being encouraged to weaken the state after which these people will be eliminated. The Overlords don’t actually believe in Wokeism.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 20, 2022 9:10 am

I knew a chick once who worked for the Dept of Finance in climate modelling (!) who was a graduate in…human nutrition!

Makes sense – our wise masters have been lying to us about money, nutrition and klimate for years.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 9:12 am

My eldest son renewed his way out of date passport recently. It took the three months they said it would, which is why I pushed him with the paperwork to get it in with plenty of time to spare. The main shock was the cost – $350, and more if you wanted express work.

I am treating him to a trip to Thailand in January to join with his non-live-in partner and their autistic child for a holiday. This is equal to the skiing trip I paid for recently for my second son. They are both children of my first marriage, now in their middle age. Neither has spare cash, and as I had a bit of a bonus on some investments recently, I am disbursing some of it to them now rather than later, and also to my oldest grandson whom I treated to a trip to Atlanta with his girlfriend. It’s not a lot of money in the general scheme of things. I also got to enjoy in Atlanta’s chaotic airport the other day imagining my 19year old grandson gaping at it all during his first trip overseas.

Carpe diem. The future looks gloomy for this country and they may as well have some fun now rather than me gifting the taxman a benefit from this little windfall in my will.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
November 20, 2022 9:13 am

Poor old Bill Gates;

In this must watch episode, Shabnam Palesa Mohamed engages Adv Dipali Ojha, attorney Diane Protat, and journalist Xavier Azalbert about legal actions against controversial billionaire Bill Gates. In India, he is being sued $125 million for a vaccine-related death of a 32 year old doctor. In France, he is being sued for misrepresentation and defamation while speaking live on French television. All three are determined to ensure that vaccine oligarch Gates faces justice for his role in causing, censoring and profiteering off vaccine related harm. Time is running out as the flood gates of litigation open

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/bill-gates-challenged-in-indian-and-french-courts.-will-justice-prevail-26f9ca54

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 20, 2022 9:16 am

Eggs to be RATIONED across UK until spring 2023 – Supermarkets including Tesco, Asda and Lidl taking URGENT action

The UK is facing its largest ever bout of bird flu, with a highly pathogenic variant circulating.

Since early November, birdkeepers have had to keep their animals housed and away from wildlife to reduce the spread. When there is a confirmed outbreak on a poultry or egg farm, all the birds in the affected area are destroyed, meaning fewer eggs in the supply chain.

The outbreak is compounding existing shortages caused by producers cutting back on output or leaving the industry due to increased costs, with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine driving up farmers’ energy bills along with the cost of chicken feed, hens and packaging.

Demand for eggs is also up as consumers seek out cheaper sources of protein to offset soaring food bills.

Therese Coffey has said she is confident “we can get through” the egg shortage gripping the UK as she noted “there are still nearly 14 million egg-laying hens” in the country.

The Environment Secretary said she was aware of “what is happening in individual shelves” but claimed retailers have not yet “directly” contacted her department to indicate supply chains problems.

Interesting it was a point raised by Clarkson & Caleb at 56 Mins 16 secs when they start talking about Jeremy Clarkson being a Twitcher – and he says Pigeons are immune to Bird Flu and they move on to talking about the Bird Flu epidemic that has not been raised in the Papers – The interview was done on 25 Oct 22 at the Farm and went to air 15 Nov 22

Clarkson + Kaleb: Behind the Scenes on Diddly Squat Farm | Performance People

15 Nov 2022

One of the UK’s most charismatic TV presenters, Jeremy Clarkson has been entertaining the nation for some 40 years with his uncompromising take on the car industry and life in general. At 62 and with no fewer than 10 jobs at the last count, Clarkson is now trying his hand at farming.

Joining Clarkson is Kaleb Cooper, Jeremy’s sidekick from the smash-hit reality TV show, Clarkson’s Farm. On the show, Kaleb is the young man tasked with teaching Clarkson how to farm, earning his ‘break-out star’ status by telling Clarkson what he really thinks about his farming prowess. Alongside his day job on the Diddly Squat Farm, Kaleb has built up his own agricultural business in the Cotswolds, while gathering 1.1 million followers on Instagram.

Together, in a podcast first, they talk about their sometimes confusing master/apprentice dynamic, how David Cameron broke Jeremy’s vintage tractor and why sheep are afflicted with an existential death wish.

This four way conversation was recorded on 25th October 2022 at Diddly Squat Farm.

miltonf
miltonf
November 20, 2022 9:17 am

ok why I mention NCP and Hilmer is I suspect that is the legal mechanism that has given the canbra pubic parasites so much control over the electricity industry. Up to sometime in the 90s or 2000s, canbra had nothing to do with power generation apart from its share with NSW and Vicco in the Snowy. What changed?

Razey
Razey
November 20, 2022 9:18 am

I am disbursing some of it to them now rather than later,

Best to do before they implement Death Taxes.

132andBush
132andBush
November 20, 2022 9:20 am

Monty is the blogs Fetterman.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 9:21 am

I’m not so sure JC. Wokism is Cultural Marxism, it’s a stain which is impossible to remove.

Wokism is the superficial face of it, which is easy enough to point out, laugh at, and attack. Pre the mid-terms De Santis did a marvellous job of this, pleading for ordinary ‘common sense’ and then cutting to the real chase – the economic side of it – proud of how he had made Disney take a financial penalty for its wokism. Unless the Marxists are hit on their financial nerve, and removed from taking the public tit of financial benefits large and small, then the removal of a few woke elements will not be enough.

The restructuring of the economic and social infrastructure by their embedded forces in the cultural institutions is what the Marxists are on about. That embedding has to go.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 20, 2022 9:22 am

Looks like “animal justice party” will get a spot or two with so many parties ranking them so highly.

Ask them about David Attenborough.

Eco-protester arrested after gatecrashing David Attenborough’s dinner (19 Nov)

Animal Rebellion activist Emma Smart approached the broadcaster at a restaurant in Dorset.

The marine biologist was asked to leave the Michelin-starred fish restaurant after she tried to confront Sir David Attenborough. She was later dragged out of the Catch at the Old Fish Market in Weymouth, Dorset by police. The 45-year-old had tried to deliver a letter to Sir David’s table and have a five-minute chat with him to “tell the truth” about climate change.

According to Animal Rebellion, a group calling for a plant-based food system and a mass re-wilding programme, Smart targeted his visit to the Catch restaurant because of its expensive seafood menu.

I doubt she was actually telling the truth about climate change. Lies more like. It’s fun that extremist climate tragics are now monstering slightly less extremist climate tragics like Attenborough for being insufficiently pure.

Bluey
Bluey
November 20, 2022 9:24 am

Dotsays:
November 20, 2022 at 9:08 am
Term limits and sortition would mean career politicians would not be a thing.

It is amazing how the masses were conned with representative democracy with all its wonderful forms of meaningless voting.

Optional preferential voting is the best of a bad bunch.

I have my doubts about term limits. There’s not really good options, career politicians are awful but I’d like to keep someone like Pauline vs. most of them. I’d also expect when a party gets a majority someone like Andrews would hammer through as much grift as possible in their last term instead of slow rolling and giving an opportunity to oppose it.

Short of a complete reform of the entire system that limits who can vote, I don’t see any good options. Even limiting who can vote would be gamed eventually, to expand someone’s powerbase.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 20, 2022 9:25 am

Targeted reparations.

Razey
Razey
November 20, 2022 9:26 am

Ask them about David Attenborough.

David Rabbitborough The Australian Suburban Home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlqmWcdnZnk

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 20, 2022 9:28 am

My eldest son renewed his way out of date passport recently. It took the three months they said it would, which is why I pushed him with the paperwork to get it in with plenty of time to spare. The main shock was the cost – $350, and more if you wanted express work.

You know it is a prison when you have to bribe the warders to be let out.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 9:28 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
November 20, 2022 at 9:04 am

“None. Wokism has peaked. Musk will also annihilate it.”

I’m not so sure JC. Wokism is Cultural Marxism, it’s a stain which is impossible to remove.

It’s a religious movement Cassie. In a lot of ways it resembles the old communist-like protestant cult of Puritanism that showed up in the north east of the US in a big way. Ironically, universities like Harvard and Yale were originally established by the Puritans and wokism is rampant at both places now.
It will go away though. At least, I hope so anyway.

Rabz
November 20, 2022 9:33 am

LOL – la Meloni going ballistic on the Frogues’ house sized backsides.

Magnificent stuff.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 20, 2022 9:35 am

Vic ABC running hard on the Catherine Cumming “Red mist” comment referring to TaliDan.

VicPlod are looking into harassing another woman for wrong speech and wrong thought.

Threatening every citizen in the state with fines, arrest and imprisonment wasn’t violence in the perverted reality of the ABC.

TaliDan actually had orders drawn up under emergency powers to have Victorians indefinitely detained without recourse to a court.

There’s no ethical bar that the ABC won’t limbo under if the political tune is right.

sfw
sfw
November 20, 2022 9:36 am

mc, yeh the doc does expose some strange thinking by the parties. How any sort of conservative/freedom party can put PHON UAP below Animal Justice and some other nuts dismays me. They hate each other more than they hate the left.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 9:36 am

Liz, Cassie.

I think we call it cultural Marxism because it resembles the rigid orthodoxy of recent communist regimes. Communism was principally a materialistic movement though , but obviously with some spirituality tossed into the salad. To me, wokism is a white liberal movement that sprung up in the old puritan haunts of the past. Harvard, Yale and Stamford (almost Ivy league) , all have puritan roots.

Vicki
Vicki
November 20, 2022 9:36 am

I used to have a fantastic memory, recall of names and content of books etc.
Less so now. I can get so irritated when I can’t momentarily lock in a reference I know well.

It’s a big club, Lizzie!!! There is some comfort in knowing that it afflicts most people eventually. The trouble is that the more agitated you become trying to recall something – the more it eludes you. One always fears that people are thinking you have early dementia, or something!

miltonf
miltonf
November 20, 2022 9:39 am

JC I’ve heard political correctness referred to as a ‘debased form of Protestantism’. Quite possibly true.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 20, 2022 9:40 am

It’s fun that extremist climate tragics are now monstering slightly less extremist climate tragics like Attenborough for being insufficiently pure.

Well, the left do like to eat their own!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 9:40 am

unlike Covid, abortion didn’t kill anybody.

One of the interesting things driving the state and interstate highways in the southern US pre the mid-terms was the plethora of billboards, large and often expensive, speaking up in defense of the life of a foetus, using pics made very visible. These boards also often referenced where pregnant women could seek help with their pregnancy. One realised that the abortion issue was very politically live in the US in a way that it seems not to be in Australia. I think overall that this is a positive thing providing moral strength and helpful alternatives, although the emphasis may have also worked the other way, to suggest a total ban might be forthcoming, which could act to frighten many women away from the reform movement.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 9:42 am

Rabz says:
November 20, 2022 at 9:33 am

LOL – la Meloni going ballistic on the Frogues’ house sized backsides.

Magnificent stuff.

What’s magnifique about it Rabz as she’s lying or completely freaking ignorant.

The CFA Franc is not a way for France to make money from holding seigniorage over the currency being used by those 14 African countries. I spoke about this last night.
This is always the problem with Italian leadership. They appear to have zero understanding of economics. She can pull the wool over Italian eyes because they have no freaking idea.

miltonf
miltonf
November 20, 2022 9:42 am

Who the hell is putting Meddick above UAP/PHON? I’m looking forward to putting Meddick last, one reason being he/she/its support for Andrews’ assault on liberty.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 20, 2022 9:42 am

Some bloke has some thoughts.

Young people are desperate to curtail their personal freedoms in the name
(of) a greater good that might best be described as a vision of hell.
They don’t know whether they’re coming or going. But one thing is certain:
they’ve been beaten to breaking-point by apocalyptic narratives on the one hand,
and a dreary diet of guilt and repentance on the other.

sfw
sfw
November 20, 2022 9:44 am

That David Rabbitborough The Australian Suburban Home 1, isn’t too bad, but outdated today. It shows an Australia that most of us grew up in and loved. Now few new homes have much in the way of lawn or gardens. Look at the new estates, in general the house takes up 90% of the block, with a small courtyard and maybe a garden bed. That’s for the lucky ones, many more live in dual occs or units with little or no space and then there’s the apartment people, living in concrete boxes jammed in all around our once beautiful cities.

They can have it, there’s a bit of a white exodus to rural areas going on, mainly tradies and middle class people who can’t afford to buy a house like they grew up in, in an area like they grew up in. The wealthier pale people have the resources to get what they want close to the city and they don’t have to enter the semis slums and dangerous suburbs.

Mass migration has/is ruined Australia.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 20, 2022 9:44 am

If SCOTUS hadn’t done what it did, we would now be talking about a Republican majority of 80-100 House seats and double figures in the Senate.

100%.
With the Economy in the tank, disaster in Ukraine, Joey Shitpants doesn’t even know his own name, the Republicans ran on the only issue that favoured the Democrats.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 9:45 am

miltonf says:
November 20, 2022 at 9:39 am

JC I’ve heard political correctness referred to as a ‘debased form of Protestantism’. Quite possibly true.

I suspect it is, Milton.

Cassie of Sydney
November 20, 2022 9:45 am

“There’s no ethical bar that the ABC won’t limbo under if the political tune is right.”

An ABC that a Coalition government was always happy to throw money at.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 20, 2022 9:46 am

If SCOTUS hadn’t done what it did, we would now be talking about a Republican majority

Who is this WE you mention?
Does it include the babies killed by abortion?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 20, 2022 9:48 am

Who the hell is putting Meddick above UAP/PHON? I’m looking forward to putting Meddick last, one reason being he/she/its support for Andrews’ assault on liberty.
It’s about preference flows.
Obviously, Hanson and Palmer have done some underhanded deal with Labor, and the LameStreamMedia aren’t reporting it.

Vicki
Vicki
November 20, 2022 9:50 am

Mass migration has/is ruined Australia.

sfw – it is, of course, heresy to say that in today’s Australia. But I believe it has been the indiscriminate way immigration has been cheered on by big business and government that has produced such a distortion of Australian culture.

Tom
Tom
November 20, 2022 9:52 am

Looking at the GFS 14 day model there is not let up in sight.

132andBush, any climate that can produce decade-long droughts can also produce decade-long drenchings of rain, which we’re now in the middle of.

Sorry about the boggy paddocks.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 9:53 am

Here’s a nice chapter on how the CFA Franc operates (call it the African Franc) . There’s a lot to criticize the French state about, but operating the CFA to assist those African countries isn’t one of them.

This is the second time Meloni has been bullshiting about economics. She’s now dead to me. I’ll make one prediction – this Italian government will fail just like every other government since the 1920s. They had one decent government just after WW2 under Gaspari leading the Christian Dems for about 10 years and then it was all over.

Makka
Makka
November 20, 2022 9:57 am

Fatty Trump just needs to go full MAGA, with this li’l ditty playing at the beginning and end of his mighty addresses to the nation …

Looking at his speech to run, he looked pretty flat. I think the mid term debacle really threw him.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 10:01 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2022 10:04 am

Matersays:
November 20, 2022 at 8:19 am
Monty,
I notice you’ve been ignoring my comments about your shilling about the necessity of women having freedom over their own bodies, whilst completely ignoring the recent issue of vaccine mandates.

Why is that?
Is the cognitive dissonance required likely to throw you into an epileptic fit?

The shilling is also strictly in favour of women living in western, culturally Christian, countries. Not too much from m0nty=fa about women in Islamic nations having freedom over their own bodies.

Bluey
Bluey
November 20, 2022 10:05 am

Vickisays:
November 20, 2022 at 9:50 am
Mass migration has/is ruined Australia.

sfw – it is, of course, heresy to say that in today’s Australia. But I believe it has been the indiscriminate way immigration has been cheered on by big business and government that has produced such a distortion of Australian culture.

I firmly believe there is no nation of Australia any more, it’s just a geographical country with a heap of competing groups now. Population has doubled in my lifetime, but with no thought to compatibility with the previously dominant culture. Multiculturalism is a lie, a cursory look through history will show it inevitably leads to war.
It isn’t to say people can’t immigrate and assimilate, just that they need to want to and be a small enough number they don’t overwhelm the people of the place they move to. We are well beyond that now, just look at how you have to play spot the white person in some suburbs of the major cities.

Rabz
November 20, 2022 10:05 am

JC – anyone attacking the frogues is fine by me.

Despicable people. The worst.

Cassie of Sydney
November 20, 2022 10:05 am

“I think we call it cultural Marxism because it resembles the rigid orthodoxy of recent communist regimes. Communism was principally a materialistic movement though , but obviously with some spirituality tossed into the salad. To me, wokism is a white liberal movement that sprung up in the old puritan haunts of the past. Harvard, Yale and Stamford (almost Ivy league) , all have puritan roots.”

JC, traditional communism was a “materialistic movement” that used “class” to further its goals. Quite frankly, I have some respect for good old fashioned Marxism. At least it aimed to improve the lives of the working class, a working class that endured great poverty. However this materialistic Marxism was never popular among the working classes in the West, it only succeeded in semi feudal countries like China and Russia when the ancien regimes collapsed. Why didn’t it work in the West? Because the working classes in the West aspired to climb out of their poverty, they wanted to be middle class or rich. They wanted opportunities, opportunities which only capitalism can provide. Most of us here are children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of men and women who were born into poverty, yet these people were able to climb out their lower social status precisely because capitalism gave them the opportunities to do so. Those opportunities don’t exist under Marxism….you’re stuck.

Wokism is cultural Marxism, the word “woke” is simply a benign cover for Marxism, but it isn’t the Marxism of old. Wokism is the child of Gramsci and other Frankfurt thinkers. Gramsci et al knew that any Marxism which based on itself on “materialistic goals” wouldn’t work in the West, so they cleverly instituted a movement to infiltrate academia, media, entertainment, education and so on. But the kernel here was that Gramsci and others moved away from “materialism”, classic Marxism and instead focused on sexuality, on race, on gender, on “equality” and “inclusion”, and so now we arrive to where we are in 2022, where the West is slowly but surely committing suicide, thanks to its pursuit of Gramsci woke ideals. The children of Gramsci were able to hide and prosper in academic environments such as Harvard, Yale and Stamford where they could indoctrinate the young and then use the young as couriers for their ideas. It’s worked a treat, all woke rubbish stems from academia , an example of this is human resources departments in all our large corporations. They’re now full of people who did arts degrees, who studied such rubbish as “gender studies” and who are fully indoctrinated wokeists, so what are they doing? They’re implementing cultural Gramsci Marxism in the guise of diversity, equity and inclusion.

It will not end well.

Rabz
November 20, 2022 10:06 am
sfw
sfw
November 20, 2022 10:06 am

miltonf

The Health Australia Party (whoever they are) has Animal Justice at second then the LDP at third, One Nation at 29 and UAP at 32.

The LDP have Angry Vics at 2nd and Animal Justice at 3rd with UAP and PHON at 34 to 38, that is something I truly don’t understand and I will not be voting their ticket and I’m writing to the candidates about it, disgusting.

Angry Vics have PHON at 2nd Animal Justice at 11 and 12 but UAP at 33/34

Derryn Hinchs Justice Party has Animal Justice at 2nd, UAP and PHON at 33/37 and Libs at 41/45 just ahead of Labor and Greens.

Sack Dan Andrews has Animal Justice at 2nd and UAP at 40/41

Sustainable Australia Party has Animal Justice at 2nd and UAP and PHON last on the ticket.

New Democrats has Animal Justice 2nd and PHON and UAP down the bottom just ahead of the Libs and Nats.

Transport Matters has Animal Justice 2nd and PHON and UAP at 50/53

Animal Justice has the Libs at 27/31 then UAP PHON 42/45 then the LDP at 50/51, so why did the LDP preference them?

The DLP has UAP at 37/38 below the Libs/Nats and some other questionable preferences in between.

This is only some of the parties contesting preferences, it’s worth looking at the lot. I watched that Glen Dreury (?) preference whisperer interview. He proudly claims inventing parties with deceptive and attractive names purely to funnel preferences to his preferred candidates. Looks like there’s some of that going on.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 20, 2022 10:06 am

People that aren’t motivated to go outta the house and vote love Trumpy.
He’s sockin’ it to The Man!
Motivated voters remember that when Trump had his chance:

He didn’t drain the Swamp, he made it bigger
He didn’t bring the troops home
He didn’t build the wall
He had his thumb up his arse while the cities burned in 2020

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 20, 2022 10:07 am

30mm here yesterday in two storms.
We were lucky there was only a bit of hail in the mix of heavy rain and roaring wind.
Our hay was pressed and stacked before the rain hit. The moisture content is all over the shop but the dairy farmer buying it doesn’t care as it will be in cows stomachs before it catches fire.

Makka
Makka
November 20, 2022 10:07 am

The CFA Franc is not a way for France to make money

Who cares? Only sensitive economosts so really, who gives AF?

She’s pissing off all the right people. More strength to her arm.

Razey
Razey
November 20, 2022 10:08 am

The so-called democracies of history have always been overthrown, and though they offered the people the greatest opportunities, the people have been so blindly selfish, or so careless and indifferent about whom they had to administer their government, as to have allowed themselves to have been cowed, to have been made craven and enslaved. That is why there never has been a real democracy on earth.
– Percival

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2022 10:09 am

JC

Enuff with the analogies, Fatboy. Yours are always stupid. There actually was a red wave with a 12 million vote turnaround since the 2020 election. It would be much more if we discounted the cheating that went on in 20. You had a dead demonrat and serious stroke victim as candidates … and you’re talking about candidate quality. You fat idiot.

Do we yet have a final “popular” vote for the mid-terms? Because it was not mentioned in the talking points regurgitated by m0nty=fa this morning, I assume that the Republicans received more total votes than the DemonRats. Or perhaps the DemonRats are still “finding” more votes?

Cassie of Sydney
November 20, 2022 10:09 am

And I’m not entirely comfortable with the equation of woke with “Puritanism”. Most Puritans believed in common law and evidence. What ensued in Salem was an aberration.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 10:11 am

Makka says:
November 20, 2022 at 10:07 am

The CFA Franc is not a way for France to make money

Who cares? Only sensitive economosts so really, who gives AF?

She’s pissing off all the right people. More strength to her arm.

I don’t know what the fight is about with France – obviously it’s to do with the traffic in the Med. It’s easy to debunk and she ends up with egg over her face. It’s a lie.

You piss off the right people with substantial arguments.

Razey
Razey
November 20, 2022 10:11 am

Farmer Gezsays:
November 20, 2022 at 10:07 am
30mm here yesterday in two storms.
We were lucky there was only a bit of hail in the mix of heavy rain and roaring wind.
Our hay was pressed and stacked before the rain hit. The moisture content is all over the shop but the dairy farmer buying it doesn’t care as it will be in cows stomachs before it catches fire.

Turn it into silage 😉

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 20, 2022 10:15 am

Turn it into silage

During the 2002 drought, we were “feeding out” silage that had been put down thirty years before….

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 20, 2022 10:16 am

The Health Australia Party (whoever they are)
Fake Party funded by the ALP

The LDP have Angry Vics at 2nd and Animal Justice at 3rd
Spook funded Party

Angry Vics have PHON at 2nd Animal Justice at 11 and 12
Sounds like an ALP funded outfit

Derryn Hinchs Justice Party has Animal Justice at 2nd, UAP and PHON at 33/37 and Libs at 41/45 just ahead of Labor and Greens.

Sack Dan Andrews has Animal Justice at 2nd and UAP at 40/41
Probably funded by the ALP

Sustainable Australia Party has Animal Justice at 2nd and UAP and PHON last on the ticket.
Fake ALP funded Party

New Democrats has Animal Justice 2nd and PHON and UAP down the bottom just ahead of the Libs and Nats.
Likely another Fake ALP funded Party

Transport Matters has Animal Justice 2nd and PHON and UAP at 50/53
Again, ALP funded

Animal Justice has the Libs at 27/31 then UAP PHON 42/45 then the LDP at 50/51, so why did the LDP preference them?
Because Animal Justice is going to get 10 to 20 times the vote that the LDP is, so they’re hoping to get a stooge elected on AJP’s coattails.

miltonf
miltonf
November 20, 2022 10:16 am

Interesting (in a bad way) sfw. Thanks. Some of these minor parties could well be astroturf.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 20, 2022 10:17 am

Blind adherence to doctrine and vociferous condemnation of those who didn’t follow their beliefs.
That’s the puritans and that’s why most of the population disliked them intensely.
Sounds woke to me.

cohenite
November 20, 2022 10:17 am

Twitter:

Reinstate former President Trump
Yes
51.8%
No
48.2%
14,431,388 votes
·
1 hour left

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593767953706921985

Dot
Dot
November 20, 2022 10:20 am

Ah yes the LDP is spook funded.

Hilarious Ed.

Like how you think paid professional cricketers (some earning millions of dollars per year) is just like literal chattel slavery.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 10:20 am

And I’m not entirely comfortable with the equation of woke with “Puritanism”. Most Puritans believed in common law and evidence. What ensued in Salem was an aberration.

How about strict adherence to their beliefs. One foot out of line and you were excommunicated. Puritanism was a totalitarian commie movement.

Cassie, I think you make some fine points. Culumbia University was populated by the Frankfurt school, which was where critical race theory originated and imported to the US.

Perhaps it’s a mix of all these factors. However, the leading American universities were always primed to go woke even if Puritanism wasn’t the main driver. I think it was a partial driver at least because of the origins of these so-called places of learning.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 20, 2022 10:21 am

Silage
Any other jobs you can think up for me Razey?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 10:25 am

To me, wokism is a white liberal movement that sprung up in the old puritan haunts of the past. Harvard, Yale and Stamford (almost Ivy league) , all have puritan roots.

Puritanism made Americas. It is a deep intellectual stream in American thought, something often missed by those who’ve never been there. It runs deep in the culture, and in the major institutions. Religion and The Flag represent the moral fibre of the nation, and the Civil War is a huge part of it, for its elements are still being played out in the National psyche.

Reading ‘Uncle Tom’s Cabin’ has been something of an eye-opener for me. Objectively we have all learned about slavery in the South and the response in the North, as a part of the complex background to the Civil War. But we simply don’t get the emotional context she hammers at, her arguments reflecting a society long settled by small-scale farmers, from whom stems the moral religious core of the nation, still seen today. All of this explored as ideologically rubbing up against the development of plantation agriculture in the South and the industrialisation of the cities of the North.

What Harriet Beecher Stowe did was write a moral and strongly communal Christian treatise about it, pleading especially to the natural God-given nature of womanhood as exemplified in high Victorianism, and from that, exhorting the sanctity of the family and the human right create and maintain a family. As with today’s ‘wokeness’, slavery and its system of breaking families via sale slashed at the very foundation of American ideals of family creation, freedom to work, and to live in a stable community. Her book became a moral tour de force, the moral driver to remove the institutional stain of slavery which she shows to be antithetical to foundational American ideals. Her book addresses the institutional economic fears of the North as well as the embedded cultural forms of the South, through characters representing types, natures and positions. It is cloyingly sentimental at times although surprisingly contemporary in its assessments in other ways. She uses socio-racial sterotypes, which can offend today, but has a universalising sense of the equality of all.

I persevered with it, chapter by didactic chapter, because she is a writer of wit, analytic force and pace. Her style is highly descriptive, as in the pre-TV days, and scenarios are well fleshed out visually as well as emotionally. The death of ‘little Eva’ has been compared to Dicken’s use of the death of ‘Little Nell’ and captured the Victorian imagination in a similar way. Childhood death was Harriet’s way of reaching Victorian motherhood. There is a continual usage of selected biblical passages to explore and imprint the moral focus. Heavy going reading and thus good for reducing insomniac nites.

What really struck me was how well the bible serves such works. Having recently been writing on the major early post-Roman sermon to the Britons about decline and fall, written by Gildas, a Jeremiad about sinful life and redemption, I see the same rhetorical tricks in action more than a millenium later Harriet’s Jeremiad pleads, cries, emotes, condemns, begs and suggests, with the bible as the source of powerful support. I think that possibly this parallel has helped me to persevere with the Puritan morality tale of Uncle Tom; a sort of universal historical prism on the South during my recent US trip.

miltonf
miltonf
November 20, 2022 10:25 am

I think JC and Cassie are both right- it’s a mix of the two. The poison well of cultural marxism with its hectoring of ordinary working people would attract the same totalitarian types who advocated witch hunts.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 20, 2022 10:26 am

Meanwhile, in Oirland.
Asking about the women and babies is probably racist.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 10:26 am

Cassie

It will not end well.

Perhaps, but let’s not totally discount the work Captain Mars is currently doing. It’s a mammoth task and it’s very serious because Twitter is one of the central ways we communicate news etc around.
We should get on a our hands and knees preying the African-American succeeds. This is the battle between light and darkness.

Cassie of Sydney
November 20, 2022 10:27 am

“How about strict adherence to their beliefs. One foot out of line and you were excommunicated. Puritanism was a totalitarian commie movement.”

Yes JC, most Puritans and a lot of what we call Puritanism was strict, very strict. But at the end of the day many were Christians and many of those Christians did practice something that today’s Marxist wokeists never practiced, which is forgiveness. There is no forgiveness in Woke Marxism. None.

shatterzzz
November 20, 2022 10:29 am

I firmly believe there is no nation of Australia any more, it’s just a geographical country with a heap of competing groups now.
I live in a small (69 houses) “houso’ estate when it was built 30 years ago it was 95% white folk but as time has gone on and folks incomes/lifestyles inproved most of these folk moved on .. now the street I live in I’m the only English 1st language speaker (other than kids) the rest, predominantly. SE Asian origin have never bothered to learn more than a smattering of English .. They don’t need too as the gummints (Federal & State) mollycoddle them .. they have no problems accessing any sort of welfare benefit (most are on the “rorters”) and given HC rental is a % of income there is no incentive to work .. the more you “earn” the higher the rent ..

Roger
Roger
November 20, 2022 10:30 am

I’ve heard political correctness referred to as a ‘debased form of Protestantism’. Quite possibly true.

Political correctness is born of Marxism, not Protestantism.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 10:31 am

Puritanism made Americas.

Puritanism would have killed the American ideal. It had no place for the final draft of the work done by the founding fathers.

What made America was the Quaker movement – always forgiving, Catholics and the Borderers. Puritanism was basically religious communism and it was hideous.

Cassie of Sydney
November 20, 2022 10:31 am

“Perhaps, but let’s not totally discount the work Captain Mars is currently doing. It’s a mammoth task and it’s very serious because Twitter is one of the central ways we communicate news etc around.
We should get on a our hands and knees preying the African-American succeeds. This is the battle between light and darkness.”

I do agree that Elon Musk is a ray of sunshine. I hope he succeeds. I note that he’s not allowing Alex Jones back on the platform. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not a huge fan of Jones but whilst Twitter allows Ayatollah Khamenei on its platform but doesn’t allow Jones, I don’t derive much comfort. I want everyone who was kicked off under the bearded creep Jackie Dorsey to be allowed back on.

Cassie of Sydney
November 20, 2022 10:32 am

“Political correctness is born of Marxism, not Protestantism.”

Correct.

local oaf
November 20, 2022 10:33 am

Wally Dalí says:
November 20, 2022 at 1:32 am

You Tube art rock test-
Well, well, well… another day

Yes were awesome, but Bruford runs like a girl! 🙂

miltonf
miltonf
November 20, 2022 10:33 am

There is no forgiveness in Woke Marxism. None.

Correct- it’s Mao /Stalin/Pol Pot level stuff. If you are deemed a ‘class enemy’ you are marked for destruction. In the current iteration of marxism being a white guy condemns you. Being a productive white guy is even worse.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 10:33 am

Puritanism made America. Singular. Sorry for the typo.

We might also note a strong strand of Irish, French and Spanish Catholicism dominated many intellectual traditions in the South, where adherents to a ‘patriarchal Colonialism’ vision of slavery, also supported by selected biblical quotations, wrote strongly against Beecher Stow’s more northern Puritanism. Stow has to take this ‘good master and kind provider’ vision of slavery on board, and uses key characters in the book to show its limitations given that the death of the master meant sale of the slaves and was often a familial disaster for them.

Guilt on the one side and anger on the other still can tinge American black-white interactions, perceptions and politics. It is different to the feelings held by and about other minorities.
Confronting this and refusing to accept the past as signal to the future is political indeed today.

Dot
Dot
November 20, 2022 10:34 am

If you want a real conspiracy theory, the ALP and LNP got Clive to make up the Palmer United Party/UAP.

Look at the amount of fake shit the LDP and PHON have thrown at them.

Palmer makes PUP/UAP, he makes Liberal platitudes but usually left wing policies. Then he pulls the rug from out under the party.

The LNP for decades have shunned Pauline and tried to gaol her (“GoodMan Abbott’s”Australians for Honest Politics, her conviction was quashed).

Cory Bernardi was very likely a Turnbullian plot, Cory pulls up stumps when he isn’t President Bernardi and the entire ACP base (a middle between PHON and the LDP) gets fucked over.

Ricardo Bosi’s descent into madness could all be an act. No, I’m not joking here. I know politically active conservatives who could be very helpful to either PHON or LDP, but they’re languishing in a nowhere pardee obsessed with pedophiles and mobile execution vans.

The LNP and Greens collude under Cormann and Turnbull try to eliminate small parties in the Senate, which disenfranchise about 30% of the electorate.

The LNP have tried to put the LDP out of business for 21 years by name rules and court action. Yep, real liberalism there champs.

The SFF have always hated the LDP and are very cosy now with the ALP and compete directly with PHON.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 10:36 am

praying..

shatterzzz
November 20, 2022 10:36 am

The main shock was the cost – $350, and more if you wanted express work.

Not bad for 2022 .. my last UK passport (10 years) in 2012 cost me $220 and the re-entry visa for Oz ( 10 years) cost $290 ..

Roger
Roger
November 20, 2022 10:37 am

‘Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.’

—Theodore Dalrymple, “Our Culture, What’s Left Of It”

Cassie of Sydney
November 20, 2022 10:37 am

“Puritanism made America.”

Yep.

JC
JC
November 20, 2022 10:38 am

Liz

Next week, we’re celebrating Thanksgiving. If the Indian tribe didn’t feed those fuckers they were gonsky. They would have been gone because the followed a communist ethos.

Cassie of Sydney
November 20, 2022 10:39 am

“Ricardo Bosi’s descent into madness”

Umm…can’t argue with that. It’s sad.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2022 10:42 am

Ed Casesays:
November 20, 2022 at 10:06 am
People that aren’t motivated to go outta the house and vote love Trumpy.
He’s sockin’ it to The Man!
Motivated voters remember that when Trump had his chance:

He didn’t drain the Swamp, he made it bigger
He didn’t bring the troops home
He didn’t build the wall
He had his thumb up his arse while the cities burned in 2020

Richard Cranium continues to shill for the DemonRats.

He didn’t answer my question last night, about whether he follows the definition of “Classical Liberal” or the US so-called “progressive” version of the word Liberal. From the people he shills for, he clearly follows the US definition.

m0nty
m0nty
November 20, 2022 10:42 am

Trump said no to Musk asking him back on Twitter, LOL!

I will get to you presently, Mater. I am out at soccer with my boy.

Dot
Dot
November 20, 2022 10:42 am

Puritanism made Americas

It made pre 1840s New England.

Maryland
Detroit
Pennsylvania/New Sweden
New Amsterdam/New Netherland
Louisiana
New Orleans
Florida
Texas
Various Native American nations

I have my doubts, Lizzie.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 20, 2022 10:43 am

Sack Dan Andrews has Animal Justice at 2nd and UAP at 40/41
Probably funded by the ALP

Set up by Glen Dreury as confessed by himself, now referred to the VEC (hopefully).

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 20, 2022 10:44 am

How’s the water situation where you are Bushie?

Roger
Roger
November 20, 2022 10:44 am

Puritanism was basically religious communism and it was hideous.

Puritanism was hardly a monolithic movement.

Some remained in the CofE, some Congregationalist or Presbyterian and later Baptist non-conformists.

In terms of their social organisation, some had strong communitarian leanings whereas others embraced the free market.

The Quakers themselves were Puritans at the radical edge of the spectrum.

Cassie of Sydney
November 20, 2022 10:46 am

“Rogersays:
November 20, 2022 at 10:44 am”

Yep.

Dot
Dot
November 20, 2022 10:48 am

Set up by Glen Dreury as confessed by himself, now referred to the VEC (hopefully).

For what though?

I would not trust the VEC in any case.

m0nty
m0nty
November 20, 2022 10:50 am

The short answer as to why I generally don’t engage with you, Mater, is that you are an unserious poster whose entire arguments are bad faith and wilful ignorance.

On the specific point of vaccines versus abortion rights… you are of course comparing apples and oranges. The vaccine “mandates” are not mandates at all. No one is rotting in gaol for refusing the vax. There are consequences for the unvaxxed, like lowered job prospects in certain fields, but those were entirely justifiable based on the harm done to others by acting as an infection vector.

In attempting to conflate doctors and mothers being charged with murder for abortions, as the right wants to to in America, with prudent regulations protecting people from a deadly pandemic virus, you paint yourself as a clown with no moral authority whatsoever. So in general, you are not worth talking to.

Razey
Razey
November 20, 2022 10:51 am

There is no forgiveness in Woke Marxism. None.

Nor are they wrong, about anything, ever!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 10:53 am

Puritanism would have killed the American ideal. It had no place for the final draft of the work done by the founding fathers.

What made America was the Quaker movement – always forgiving, Catholics and the Borderers. Puritanism was basically religious communism and it was hideous.

The Quakers (Puritan in origin) basically ran the Underground Railroad. Assisted by other Puritans, btw. The Puritan mode of thought was communal but as I said, based on small-scale farming communities who owned their own stuff but shared around where they could. It contained ideals of equality and sharing and freedom of the individual conscience, ideas which run through so many American communities today (even Catholic ones, like my rellies in Louisiana).

The Enlightenment ideals were what Jefferson, Ben Franklin and other founders held dear (Jefferson the slave owner). These ideals came via the Encycopaedists of the C18th and the British writers on liberty and Voltaire’s notion of the cultivated persona; ideas which sparked the French Revolution.

It helps if you think of the Puritans as ‘low culture’, the Enlightenment men as ‘high culture’.
Their values met in the notion of America as a place for the soul. For freedom.

It’s still a great country and founded in a way no other was. Totally distinctive in its origins.

Although Australia’s Enlightenment First Fleet leaders tried hard, the very idea of sending the fleet still carried the seeds of prison slavery, and there was very little early settlement of Australia in small scale communities located only a few miles from each other. The terrain was against that. Plus the upper class squatters with their initial large land grabs eventually made legal saw to that. Australian workers were a band of unsettled rovers – shearers, agricultural piece laborers, shepherds, drovers etc.

Cassie of Sydney
November 20, 2022 10:53 am

“The short answer as to why I generally don’t engage with you, Mater, is that you are an unserious poster whose entire arguments are bad faith and wilful ignorance.”

LOL….the fat fascist fuckwit has just confirmed he’s a coward.

mc
mc
November 20, 2022 10:53 am

Looking further into referencing of animal justice party in vic elections I am stunned by the number of “parties” that have them second. I will be steering well clear of any party that preference them, some I might have otherwise considered.

Thanks sfw, you have further accelerated the already exponentially shrinking faith I had in political parties.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 20, 2022 10:53 am

m0ntysays:
November 20, 2022 at 10:50 am
The short answer as to why I generally don’t engage with you, Mater, is that you are an unserious poster whose entire arguments are bad faith and wilful ignorance.

Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who’s the most unserious of all? Why, it’s m0nty=fa, of course.

cohenite
November 20, 2022 10:53 am

I will get to you presently, Mater. I am out at soccer with my boy.

Liar; you’re in the toilet staring at your cavernous groin.

rosie
rosie
November 20, 2022 10:55 am

We might also note a strong strand of Irish, French and Spanish Catholicism dominated many intellectual traditions in the South

Other than Louisiana where in the south?
My forays into that region indicated that Catholicism was all but non existent in many states prior to the comparatively recent influx of Hispanic people.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 10:55 am

There are consequences for the unvaxxed, like lowered job prospects in certain fields, but those were entirely justifiable based on the harm done to others by acting as an infection vector.

Oh come on, M0nty. At risk of mixing metaphors, you are sanitising the situation here.

Roger
Roger
November 20, 2022 10:56 am

If the Indian tribe didn’t feed those fuckers they were gonsky. They would have been gone because the followed a communist ethos.

True in regard to the Plymouth colony, JC.

But what happened next?

They saw the error of their ways and alloted private land holdings to each settler family, after which they flourished.

rosie
rosie
November 20, 2022 10:58 am

Catholics got their understanding of equality freedom of conscience and charity (sharing) from puritans.
Really?

sfw
sfw
November 20, 2022 10:58 am

I’m a member of the LDP and contacted my sitting member in the upper house and said I was disgusted with the LDP preferencing Animal Justice so high on the ticket. He said he doesn’t like it either and to vote my preferences as I see fit. So who did the preferences for the LDP? Why are they supporting Animal Justice?

Cassie do you have any idea?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 20, 2022 10:59 am

Rosie, Gone with the Wind was written about Georgia, where there was a influx of Irish Catholics and Irish names. Scarlet O’Hara was an Irish girl. And a Catholic.

Perhaps though I am over-reliant on my impressions of Louisiana, which was deeply Spanish and French before the big purchase, and after it with further immigration too.

And not all Hispanic incursions into Florida and elsewhere have been recent. The historic areas are full of Spanish architecture. And churches.

But I am no demographer on this, just impressionistic.

rosie
rosie
November 20, 2022 10:59 am

but those were entirely justifiable based on the harm done to others by acting as an infection vector.

Utter nonsense because it assumes unvaccinated = permanently infected and infectious.

Dot
Dot
November 20, 2022 10:59 am

Preference deals are not always easy to see through, sometimes there is some horse trading elsewhere (another election in another jurisdiction) or it is a matter of being fast enough or not. Then you might have a holdout with a lot of bargaining power negotiating terms to other parties.

Then it’s a guess off how many votes everyone gets.

sfw
sfw
November 20, 2022 11:00 am

Vic LDP has Transport Matters Traitors much higher on the list than PHON and UAP. Do they really want another Andy Meddick and Rod Barton in Parliament?

mc
mc
November 20, 2022 11:02 am

There are consequences for the unvaxxed, like lowered job prospects in certain fields, but those were entirely justifiable based on the harm done to others by acting as an infection vector.

Wow.. it is nice to know that now that I am not working after 20 years for not getting the booster, at least my former colleagues are safer now I am gone.

Cassie of Sydney
November 20, 2022 11:02 am

“I’m a member of the LDP and contacted my sitting member in the upper house and said I was disgusted with the LDP preferencing Animal Justice so high on the ticket. He said he doesn’t like it either and to vote my preferences as I see fit. So who did the preferences for the LDP? Why are they supporting Animal Justice?

Cassie do you have any idea?”

I have no idea. I wouldn’t preference Animal Justice under any circumstances. When I vote I do my own preferences.

As for the looming Vic election, my only hope is that the despicable, sinister, Marxist, totalitarian Andrews is defeated in Mulgrave. He probably won’t be but I reckon Ian Cook will make an impact. Otherwise I think Victoria is broken.

Dot
Dot
November 20, 2022 11:03 am

High Anglican (crypto Catholic) Charles I of England lent his head to the incoming Puritan government in 1649.

So there’s that.

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