Open Thread – Weekend 26 Nov 2022


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rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 12:13 am

Oh

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 12:14 am

What happens when you are on Queensland time.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 26, 2022 12:30 am

Continuous adding one hour to work out Çat time.

NFA
NFA
November 26, 2022 12:33 am

Goodbye Victoria.

Rossini
Rossini
November 26, 2022 12:40 am

How Dan can be elected for a 3rd term is beyond me!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 26, 2022 12:45 am

I have possums doing the horizontal tango or whatever possums do on my rubbish bin. A gin trap with a sprinkling of flour around it, despatching with the garden fork works quite well. The town council in canberra trap them, take them away, never far, while we wait for them to return. Keeps someone in work I suppose. Thinking not a strong suit in canberra.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 26, 2022 12:48 am

Single figures?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 26, 2022 1:09 am

Lady possum has just arrived. She’s a bit lonely tonight.

JC
JC
November 26, 2022 3:08 am

Let’s talk tractors.

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 3:56 am

And while Senator Roberts pointed to the monthly births data by date of occurrence, the same ABS data release (from October 2022) includes another measure of births, by date of registration.

Viewed this way, the number of births registered in 2021 was almost identical to the five-year, pre-pandemic average (2015-19).

When the ABS released its figures last month, it announced that Australia’s fertility rate had “bounce[d] back” after a record low in 2020.
Scroll down to the Victorian lockdown factcheck. Clearly it should have been ‘the world’s longest completely unnecessary lockdown in a first world country’.
everyone hates a fact check

Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 4:02 am

Johannes Leak. Brilliant.

Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 4:08 am
rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 4:08 am

On the other hand James Newburrie thinks Labor will win, I’m not getting my hopes up.
voice for Victoria on exit polls in Mulgrave

Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 4:11 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 26, 2022 4:24 am

Thanks, Tom.

Gabor
Gabor
November 26, 2022 4:27 am

DrBeauGan says:
November 26, 2022 at 4:24 am

Thanks, Tom.

Just curious here Dr, why are you up at this hour?
I’m a baker, I have to be.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 26, 2022 5:02 am

Just curious here Dr, why are you up at this hour?
I’m a baker, I have to be.

It’s 02:00 in the morning here, and I’ve just gone to bed but not to sleep. I keep bizarre times.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 26, 2022 5:19 am

Happy St Dan Day. Dan was drove the slugs into Victoria. Patron saint of Rorts and Rubber Bullets.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 26, 2022 5:24 am

Big day today. Manning a booth to oust our local candidate the Marxist in Chief Dan. Hoping our Lib bloke or Ian Cook gets up. Well anyone except Dan or the Greens. If my fellow morons put Dan back in i will be done with this socialist state and move.
Its not over til its over.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 26, 2022 5:25 am

Dan outspending Libs 6:1
I guess his fund raising reforms did the job he intended.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 26, 2022 6:04 am

Ah, 30, I used to be thirty, that was a good age to be, but glad to be passed it, and well into doubling it, and the pleasure is now doubled. I can explain but won’t bore you with the how and the why.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 26, 2022 6:06 am

Let’s hope Sicktoria becomes Victoria again.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 6:07 am

Very poor, calli

Yes Rabz. What appear to be “false linkages” to you are not to me.

But then I’m no Emma and you aren’t Mr. Knightley.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 6:10 am

Good luck Vic Cats. May the best imbecile win.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 26, 2022 6:23 am

Thank you Calli,

Guy may be an imbecile , but hes our imbecile!

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 6:24 am
Mater
November 26, 2022 6:39 am

Older women are also more likely to be undergoing IVF treatment. The likelihood of miscarriage is higher in those women, both due to age and due to the uncertainties of IVF implantation and growth.

While it’s true about age, the IVF implantation issue is debatable. Bias and statistical play a much bigger part. The IVF process itself is less an issue than many believe.

Firstly, those seeking IVF (even younger women) are generally those with fertility issues, which make them a greater risk of miscarriage in the first instance. The population sample has a bias.

Secondly, women are scanned to within an inch of their lives throughout the process. Regular doesn’t begin to describe it. Hence, from the day of implantation, everyone knows the progress of the pregnancy (almost to the day). When it fails, they know, even before a naturally impregnated female would even suspect she was pregnant.

Many women loose a natural pregnancy before they are even aware they are, let’s say it’s Gods way of saying it wasn’t quite right. They are non the wiser, so it doesn’t trouble the scorers or the statisticians. Those doing IVF know they are pregnant from day one, and know exactly when they lost it, even within the first four weeks.

Nothing malicious here, it’s just a product of comparing apples with oranges. We can file it under lies, damned lies, and statistics.

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 6:59 am

If Victorian birth rates remain steady as she goes, then the post vaccine miscarriage rate is the same as the pre vaccine miscarriage rate.
Ie there is no effect.
Rushing off to get a pregnancy test as soon as a period is a day late is not a good idea, most miscarriages occur first trimester, most are genetic issues.
up to fifty percent of all pregnancies end in miscarriage

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 7:11 am

*dusts off hands*

That was fun. Some early morning weeding and irrigation checking. The early bird catches the oxalis…and the dead sprinkler heads.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
November 26, 2022 7:14 am

Dr. Robert Malone is Still Fighting

From Armstrong Economics –

QUESTION:
Message: Dear Martin,

Thank you for all of the insight that you make available to us on a daily basis. I’m hoping that you might be able to provide an update to your April 5, 2022 blog, “Dr. Robert Malone vs WEF”? At the time, the good Doctor was in the process of outing the various WEF world leaders and government scoundrels so as to make the list public. Hopefully this is still in the works and you might be able to provide a timeline and manner in which this important information will be disseminated?
Thank you in advance for your valuable insight and guidance!
KD

REPLY: Dr. Robert Malone is still fighting to expose those responsible for COVID. He has appeared on Maria Zeee’s program many times, often on the same day that I am scheduled to speak. We are fighting for the same cause, with Malone decoding the science as I expose the economic consequences.

Dr. Robert Malone is one of the original inventors of mRNA and DNA vaccines. He holds numerous patents for gene delivery, formulation, and vaccines. He admitted that he originally believed that health organizations such as the CDC and NIH were in place to help the people. He quickly realized that the health organizations are merely government pawns that have been used to suppress and manipulate the people into taking dangerous vaccines.

The MSM crowd attempts to discredit Dr. Malone at every turn. His Wikipedia page (untrustworthy site) has been hacked, his social media accounts were permanently banned, and many major news publications wrote scathing reviews on the doctor for spreading “misinformation” despite him being one of the top experts in his field. “If they can remove my voice, my experience, my expertise – they win,” Malone stated.

Dr. Malone on attempts to silence him:

“The more I have expressed data-based concerns about what is happening with the vaccines, the US Federal and WHO responses, the more I have been censored, defamed, and subjected to various forms of character assassination by big tech and legacy media. I am not alone in being targeted. Mainstream media has attacked and censored me and other prominent physicians/scientists who do not recite the governmental narrative. This has been developed into a standard process and deployed worldwide as a technique for suppressing physician dissent – quite literally hunting physicians deemed guilty of thoughtcrimes (such as questioning vaccine safety and effectiveness) or of the “sin” of treating patients with lifesaving drugs in an outpatient setting.”

Dr. Malone continues to speak out against vaccinations, and people are beginning to listen to his message.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/dr-robert-malone-is-still-fighting/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
November 26, 2022 7:19 am

A couple went to the hospital to have their baby delivered.

Upon their arrival, the doctor said that the hospital was testing an amazing new high-tech machine that would transfer a portion of the mother’s labour pain to the baby’s father.

He asked if they were interested. Both said they were very much in favour of it.

The doctor set the pain transfer to 10% for starters, explaining that even 10% was probably
more pain than the father had ever experienced before.

But as the labour progressed, the husband felt fine and asked the doctor to go ahead and kick
it up a notch.

The doctor then adjusted the machine to 20% pain transfer. The husband was still feeling fine. The doctor then checked the husband’s blood pressure and was amazed at how well he was doing.

At this point they decided to try for 50%. The husband continued to feel quite well.

Since the pain transfer was obviously helping the wife considerably, the husband encouraged the doctor to transfer ALL the pain to him.

The wife delivered a healthy baby with virtually no pain and the husband continued to experience no pain. She and her husband were ecstatic.

When they got home, they found the postman dead on the porch.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
November 26, 2022 7:21 am

Old age is no place for sissies.

– Bette Davis

Zipster
Zipster
November 26, 2022 7:21 am

How Dan can be elected for a 3rd term is beyond me!

relentless gaslighting works

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 7:22 am

Victoria registered births here.

There are some undulations in numbers, but nothing stands out.

It seems to me that there’s so much static swirling around the vaxx that the central issue is being lost – our governments locked us up and lied to us and made it almost impossible to live a normal, productive life unless we took their vaccine.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 26, 2022 7:26 am

Thoughts are with Victorians today as VIC and the country will be in serious trouble if Andrews / Labor are re-elected.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 26, 2022 7:29 am

relentless gaslighting works

Yep.

Over 70 Per Cent of Children Aged 7-12 Now Afraid of Climate Change – Survey (25 Nov)

They’re probably terrified of Covid too. Fear is a very powerful emotion and Dan will save us all from these harmless dangers!

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 7:31 am

Heh. At least Victoria is completely transparent with their stats. Type in “vic birth rate” and you come up with the table by month.

Try doing that with NSW. It’s like entering the labyrinth. Still trying to find something useful. Thanks government imbeciles.

JC
JC
November 26, 2022 7:34 am

Fear is the best persuasion technique ever conceived. The American left are the masters.

Mater
November 26, 2022 7:40 am

It seems to me that there’s so much static swirling around the vaxx that the central issue is being lost – our governments locked us up and lied to us and made it almost impossible to live a normal, productive life unless we took their vaccine.

Calli,
The other bit lost is that the government made us take their vaccine without any clear idea of what it would do to us, and they still don’t…in the longer term.

Remember, they had no idea that it’d cause heart issue before forcing it on us or the slogan of ‘safe and effective’ and ‘fully approved’. If they did, and didn’t tell us, it’s even worse.

Deaths, damage and/or scot-free, even just the heart related issues which have become evident highlight in sky writing why this was, being generous, ill-conceived and deceptive or, being more cynical, bloody evil. The absence of mass short term deaths is not (or shouldn’t be) the measure of the righteous of this stunt.

More diligence goes into ensuring the bodily autonomy rights of a potential organ donor (post mortem), than was extended to us during this most unfortunate of periods.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
November 26, 2022 7:41 am

the fix is in

JC
JC
November 26, 2022 7:42 am

Chris Kenny in the Oz

Sending reparations to China, roping smallish businesses into ­industry-wide industrial action, offering permanent residency and family reunion rights to 30,000 people who arrived here illegally by boat, and even lowering the voting age to 16 – these are not policies that Anthony Albanese promised. Yet they are either being implemented or considered as part of the new Labor, Greens and teal dynamic in Canberra.

These “things”, currently in government, will make the Whitlam government look good in comparison.

The one thing Kenny neglects to mention is the ruinous rise in energy costs.
Combined with RBA tightening, increased labor market regulation primed for further nominal wage pressures and we’re primed for excellent times ahead.

Mater
November 26, 2022 7:43 am

Deaths, damage and/or scot-free, even just the heart related issues which have become evident highlight in sky writing why this was, being generous, ill-conceived and deceptive or, being more cynical, bloody evil.

Forgot to add; given how quickly the heart issue become evident, if the normal testing process had been followed, this would have been known before mass vaccination.

Perhaps there’s a lesson in that for everyone.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 7:44 am

Government is fudging the Birth data, so they’ve got something to hide.
Most likely reason is that the AntiVaxxers were right:
Take the CovidVax, forget about ever having a successful pregnancy.

In other words, CovidVaxxes are an Abortifacient.
Thanks, rosie .

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 7:48 am

Mater, that’s a sub-set of “lied to us”.

They knew because we did. Made no difference.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 7:49 am

Ahaha! I had a “rabbit hole” comment about falsification of registered births and scrubbed it! We need to conserve our tinfoil just in case Tomago goes off-line. 😀

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 26, 2022 7:51 am

Earlier in the week Ben Fordham had on Dr Ross Walker to discuss a 18 year old female Vax victims interview. Walker is a top Sydney cardiologist who hosts a show on 2 GB/4BC on Sunday’s.

Walker said he had seen 70-80 cases of vaccine related heart issues this year. He called for the MNRA Vax to be stopped (source Facebook page of Ben Fordham show).

Unfortunately I have not seen any other media pick up this story so far. I am assuming Walker is vaxxed so he can by no means be labelled an anti vaxxer.

“Remember, they had no idea that it’d cause heart issue before forcing it on us or the slogan of ‘safe and effective’ and ‘fully approved’. If they did, and didn’t tell us, it’s even worse”

Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 7:54 am

Chip Le Grand, formerly of the Paywallian, now with Pravda on Yarra (The Age), finally admits something thinking journalists have known for decades:

There is a growing view among campaign strategists from both sides of politics that traditional media outlets, whether this masthead or others, don’t influence people’s voting behaviour like they used to.

Nowadays, The Age is the newspaper of the Victorian public service and, like the ABC, votes Green. So it’s interesting that Chip Le Grand’s main piece on election day says that the premier The Age has defended like a soccer team since 2014 is now on the nose.

Link

Indolent
Indolent
November 26, 2022 7:57 am

And he’s still walking about free and confident enough to visit New York to speak at some event.

FTX CEO Mocked Gullible Media for Hyping His ‘Effective Altruism’ Shtick

Zipster
Zipster
November 26, 2022 7:58 am

Dr. Robert Malone is Still Fighting

if you watch the video I posted yesterday
INFLUENCE OF VACCINE INTERVENTION on pathogen evolution

he says that it was known that this “vaccine” was not designed to do more than prevent symptoms. Does not generate mucosal anti-bodies and therefor does not prevent infection or transmission. Which something senator Roberts has been questions our health numpies about.

what.the.living.fuck

Indolent
Indolent
November 26, 2022 7:59 am
Indolent
Indolent
November 26, 2022 8:00 am
Cassie of Sydney
November 26, 2022 8:02 am

Saturday, 26 November 2022

Daniel Andrews, the most sinister, the most evil, the most manipulative creature to ever reach high office in this country, and his grotesquely corrupt and totalitarian government, are about to be re-elected, thanks in no small part to the utterly cowardly, craven and useless Victorian Liberals.

I recall how last year, in October/November 2021, when the protests were happening in Melbourne, protests that attracted hundreds of thousands of people, not just “thousands” as our corrupt and mealy-mouthed MSM described them, today it’s worth remembering how not one Liberal MP marched with the protesters. Instead, when the corrupt MSM deliberately smeared the protests and protesters as “far-right” and “Nazis”, the Liberals panicked and hid, like little church mice. A Liberal leader with just an ounce of Churchillian spine (not a lot to ask for), instead of forbidding Liberal MPs from attending, would have said to the MSM that at the next protest, EVERY Liberal MP will be in attendance. That’s how you deal with the left.

Daniel Andrews is living proof of evil. Victoria and Victorians don’t deserve this. I’d like to be more positive. The Liberals will make gains, but I doubt very much they can win 18 seats and the sad fact is that they’re just as likely to lose seats to the Teal coloured crocodiles, and this won’t be because of Labor, it’s the fault of the Liberals. Once again I’m reminded of Winston Churchill’s memorable quote, “An appeaser is someone who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”. Well, our Teal Crocodiles are ravenous, gobbling up the Liberals for brekkie, lunch, dinner, supper and at snack time.

But maybe I’m being too hard. I need to channel Bernie Finn, a decent man if ever there was one, a true Christian, a man who was treated disgracefully by Groundhog Guy and the party. Despite clearly being no fan of Groundhog Guy, Finn last night on Sky refused to attack him and he said how he hopes for a Liberal win today.

Daniel Andrews, who’s best lines are “I can’t recall”, I’m unable to remember”, you got to admire him, the man has chutzpah, yet the tragedy is that Victoria and Victorians (what’s left of them), will be remembering, recalling, and recollecting Labor and Andrews for decades.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 8:03 am

EXCLUSIVE: Official Documents prove Anthony Fauci & Bill Gates are responsible for developing the COVID Virus in a Biolab

This is spam.
There’s no Virus.
The Vaccine was developed in a BioLab.

duncanm
duncanm
November 26, 2022 8:03 am

The Left:

lower the voting age to 16

. Presumably because today, young-uns can make good decisions and be responsible at an earlier age.

also the Left:

raise the age of criminal responsibility to 14

Give it a while and we’ll have young criminals who can’t be incarcerated due to their age, but can vote.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 8:05 am

Andrews is gone, has been gone for months.
Can you stop shilling for Labor for 5 minutes?

duncanm
duncanm
November 26, 2022 8:10 am

Bourne1879says:
November 26, 2022 at 7:51 am
Earlier in the week Ben Fordham had on Dr Ross Walker to discuss a 18 year old female Vax victims interview. Walker is a top Sydney cardiologist who hosts a show on 2 GB/4BC on Sunday’s.

Walker said he had seen 70-80 cases of vaccine related heart issues this year. He called for the MNRA Vax to be stopped (source Facebook page of Ben Fordham show).

Unfortunately I have not seen any other media pick up this story so far. I am assuming Walker is vaxxed so he can by no means be labelled an anti vaxxer.

“Remember, they had no idea that it’d cause heart issue before forcing it on us or the slogan of ‘safe and effective’ and ‘fully approved’. If they did, and didn’t tell us, it’s even worse”

the message seems a little more subtle here:
https://www.drrosswalker.com/covid-19-vaccinations/

Indolent
Indolent
November 26, 2022 8:13 am

Government reports prove COVID Vaccination is causing Hundreds of Thousands to ‘Die Suddenly’ every week & Confidential Pfizer Docs. confirm your Government knew it would happen

But let us be absolutely clear. Despite a mass media campaign to have you believe getting a booster is essential to “top up your immunity” due to declining effectiveness, it is actually impossible for vaccine effectiveness to wane when it comes to the Covid-19 injections.

The Covid-19 vaccine is supposed to work by injecting mRNA into your body, which then invades your cells and instructs them to make the spike protein found in the alleged SARS-CoV-2 virus. Once your body has produced millions of spike proteins, your immune system is supposed to get to work, rid the body of the spike proteins, and then remember to release those same antibodies if you ever encounter the actual alleged SARS-CoV-2 virus.

So, when the authorities state that the effectiveness of the vaccines weaken over time, what they really mean is that the performance of your immune system weakens over time.

The problem we are seeing in the real-world data is that the immune system isn’t returning to the natural state seen among most of the unvaccinated population. If it was we would be seeing vaccine effectiveness close to 0%, not a shocking minus-391%. This means Covid-19 vaccination is damaging the immune system, and we’re seeing this reflected in Covid-19 death figures.

So let’s take a look at the animal studies in question.

But before we do it’s worth pointing out that the official guidance states, as of June 2022, that ‘administration of the COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 in pregnancy should only be considered when the potential benefits outweigh any potential risks for the mother and foetus’. So why on earth has every single pregnant woman up and down the land been actively coerced into getting this injection?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 8:14 am

Died Suddenly
The Internet Documentary about Covid Vaccines.

P
P
November 26, 2022 8:14 am

Weeding believers out of public life

Liberal candidate Renee Heath is in the middle of a Victorian pre-state election controversy. The controversy? She is an active member of a Christian church that holds to Biblical teachings on life and marriage, gender and sexuality.

Many who are concerned at the increasingly anti-religious (and especially anti-Christian) sentiments of Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews have been hoping that this week’s state election would see an upset victory for the Opposition.

After all, anything would have to be better than the stifling of religious freedom that has occurred under the current Victorian Labor government.

As we go to print, the election result is not yet known, but events this past week have demonstrated that people of faith are unlikely to have an ally in the alternate Premier, Matthew Guy.

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 26, 2022 8:16 am

Pissarro is one of my favourites.

Cassie of Sydney
November 26, 2022 8:17 am

“Nowadays, The Age is the newspaper of the Victorian public service and, like the ABC, votes Green. So it’s interesting that Chip Le Grand’s main piece on election day says that the premier The Age has defended like a soccer team since 2014 is now on the nose.”

Ah yes, I recall how Chippy, back in 2020, lambasted Peta Credlin for attending Andrews’ press conferences so as to ask the premier some hard questions. Credlin went along because most of the MSM were giving Andrews an easy time. Chippy boy joined in the anti-Credlin pile ons saying that Credlin wasn’t a real journalist. LOL. And then last year Chippy joined in a smear against Avi Yemeni, again painting him as “not a real journalist”. There’d be no need for “people’s journalists” like Yemeni and co if the likes of Le Grand, instead of being far-left activists shilling for the Andrews government, actually did their jobs, but no, for years all they’ve done is act as Dan’s pretorian guard. So, when Chippy lambasts Credlin, Rushkan, Yemeni and others for not being “real journalists”, that might be true but neither is Chip Le Grand.

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 26, 2022 8:21 am

Daniel Andrews, the most sinister, the most evil, the most manipulative creature to ever reach high office in this country, …

Cassie, the reserved master (mistress?) of understatement.

Indolent
Indolent
November 26, 2022 8:27 am
calli
calli
November 26, 2022 8:27 am

Government to pregnant women:

No alcohol!
No smoking!

Here – have an experimental vaccine to keep granny safe.

Indolent
Indolent
November 26, 2022 8:32 am
custard
custard
November 26, 2022 8:33 am
Mater
November 26, 2022 8:33 am

Government to pregnant women:

No alcohol!
No smoking!

Here – have an experimental vaccine to keep granny safe.

No soft cheese!

JC
JC
November 26, 2022 8:40 am

..Had the laugh. A pal used Siri to ask a question about the Fed meeting. A male voice came on his phone and gave him the date. I asked how come it’s a male voice and he said he changed to male because he didn’t want a freaking sheila telling him what to do.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 8:41 am

No soft cheese!

Despicable, isn’t it?

Let’s run another:

Government to mothers:

– monitor your teenager’s online use
– watch out for drink and drugs
– teenage depression: know the warning signs

Also government:

Make sure you have your teenager double jabbed with an experimental drug that may cause myocarditis or pericarditis but will keep granny safe.

And jab your five year old while you’re at it!

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 26, 2022 8:42 am

What are the odds of an increased majority for the deththththththpicable one?

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 8:43 am

I beat you to “despicable”, but without the speech impediment. 😀

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 8:50 am

Andrews is gone, internal ALP Polling told them that months ago.

P
P
November 26, 2022 8:51 am

Lacking a spine? Vic Libs and the Renee Heath controversy
Simon Kennedy – Spectator Australia -25 November 2022 4:18 PM

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 8:52 am

Fortunately it isn’t “Cat Season”, otherwise I’d be demanding you shoot me now.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 9:01 am

Here’s a list of MPs retiring at the Election.
15 Labor, 11 of them Ministers.
Forget the Copium, Labor is gone in Victoria.
Hip,Hip, Hooray.

custard
custard
November 26, 2022 9:02 am

From my link above

It looks like this plan was always going to be focused on Arizona. The election fraud is lining up to be exposed in the courts by the rule of law so everyone can see the evidence and it will forever be in public record. Trump reminded us a few times in the past that a court has yet to see the evidence, but when they do they’ll have a big decision to make. If you think a lot of Americans think election fraud is happening now, just wait until it’s all exposed.

Brnovich and the Election Integrity Unit exposing the fraud and prosecuting people while Kari Lake uses her communication skills to be a bullhorn for the public on election fraud seems like a great fit.

I believe that more indictments are to come and more revelations will be made concerning Konnech and Runbeck. Keep your eyes peeled. Something tells me the other shoe is about to drop.

Bob Sewell
November 26, 2022 9:03 am

Cassie:

Daniel Andrews, the most sinister, the most evil, the most manipulative creature to ever reach high office in this country, and his grotesquely corrupt and totalitarian government, are about to be re-elected, thanks in no small part to the utterly cowardly, craven and useless Victorian Liberals.

Cassie, what is happening in Victoria, and by extension in the Western Democracies, is that the Inner Party exists as a substantial portion of the Right and the majority of the Left.

Bluey
Bluey
November 26, 2022 9:04 am

Fair Shakesays:
November 26, 2022 at 5:24 am
Big day today. Manning a booth to oust our local candidate the Marxist in Chief Dan. Hoping our Lib bloke or Ian Cook gets up. Well anyone except Dan or the Greens. If my fellow morons put Dan back in i will be done with this socialist state and move.
Its not over til its over.

Heard from a few different people now labor HTV have really copped abuse at early voting.

I’ m not that far away, trying to work up the enthusiasm to run the gauntlet of HTV party apparatchiks. Different seat to our glorious leader, but a ultra safe labor one.

No promises I won’t end up laying into someone.

Zipster
Zipster
November 26, 2022 9:08 am

Elon Musk

@elonmusk
Replying to
@getpaidwrite
I am neither conventionally right nor left, but I agree with your point.

The woke mind virus has thoroughly penetrated entertainment and is pushing civilization towards suicide.

There needs to be a counter-narrative.

JC
JC
November 26, 2022 9:09 am

It’s not as bad as he thinks if this is true, Dover.

100.000 entering the UK from abroad and 400.000 British returning from their expat livelihoods would make up a net migration of 500.000. you do know how net migration is calculated?

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 26, 2022 9:14 am

trying to work up the enthusiasm to run the gauntlet of HTV party apparatchiks

Whichever group of HTV people go home first is a great election result indicator.

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 9:15 am

The Bee is on fire!

The Babylon Bee
@TheBabylonBee
New Disney CEO Promises To Make Child Grooming Slightly Less Obvious

https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1595530128196395008

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 26, 2022 9:15 am

The woke mind virus has thoroughly penetrated entertainment and is pushing civilization towards suicide.

Give me liberty or give me death!

Rabz
November 26, 2022 9:16 am

A creature struggling to come to terms with the pointlessness of its existence.

Razey
Razey
November 26, 2022 9:16 am

This will be the end of Sicktoria and likely the end of Australia.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 9:18 am

Net migration

Is this migration, or illegal migration?

One of these things is not like the other, though our masters would have us believe that they are one in the same.

Rabz
November 26, 2022 9:20 am

I’ m not that far away, trying to work up the enthusiasm to run the gauntlet of HTV party apparatchiks

Give them a blast – anyone willingly spruiking those monstrous fascist quislings deserves it.

calli
calli
November 26, 2022 9:21 am

Oh, I see. Some of that figure is repatriation. Odd that it’s included in “migration” figures.

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 9:21 am

We need a movement like this here- Moms for Liberty;

In one meeting, Deon Jackson went from South Carolina’s Berkeley County school superintendent to unemployed.

His firing came at the hand of a newly-elected school board, which appears to have declared a judgment day for woke practices in its district.

In its first meeting after the Nov. 8 election, the board fired superintendent Jackson and school counsel Tiffany Richardson. Then it hired Anthony Dixon as superintendent and retained Brandon Gaskins as counsel. And before the day was over, the board banned teaching critical race theory and created a board to review library books for pornographic content.

Moms for Liberty, an activist group that supports parental rights in education, endorsed six of the board’s nine members. Many Moms for Liberty candidates won school board elections this November, as reported previously. The group’s leaders say more aggressive school management decisions may soon be in order.

“These are people that have watched the former board. They interacted and watched the former superintendent. They have watched and interacted with the staff attorney,” she said. “The newly elected school board members have been keeping a list and checking it twice.”

Rabz
November 26, 2022 9:22 am

China was the inspiration

Gee, really?

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 9:25 am

China was the inspiration

Gee, really?

I’m betting it was the dollars from China that got him over the line.

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 26, 2022 9:26 am

Give them a blast …

Is “Get off my footpath, **n*!” too aggresive?

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 26, 2022 9:28 am

callisays:
November 26, 2022 at 9:21 am
Oh, I see. Some of that figure is repatriation. Odd that it’s included in “migration” figures.

The Home Office bureaucracy hard at work to discredit its nominally “conservative” governors?

Tom
Tom
November 26, 2022 9:28 am

Lisa Neville is one of the female yes-men and state cabinet ministers who brought the horror of the Andrews regime down on our heads.

Her retirement today as the sitting member for the seat of Bellarine will be a referendum on how on-the-nose the Labor brand is out in the suburbanised provinces.

The Stupid Fucking Liberal candidate, Donnie Grigau, might as well be running for the ALP. The headline in his campaign flyer is: “50% reduction in emissions by 2030”. In other words: let’s see how fast we can kill the economy and send our standard of living back to the 19th century.

One of my brothers has met him and he’s a nice bloke etc, but the consensus is he has no chance of changing the way the local electorate votes as it has become accustomed to the Liars’ Free Stuff.

Still, it’s election day and, in a state that has been ripped apart by the fascist leftism of the Belt and Road, in-the-pockets-of the-commos Andrews junta, everything is interesting.

PS: As it’s now a tribal war of attrition, I voted for the SFL anyway – along with the Companions and Pets Party in the Legislative Council to head off the animal “rights” loons.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 26, 2022 9:29 am

Duncan,
Interesting link to Dr Walkers web page. I note that section is his thoughts in April this year.

My comments about what he said are based purely on what was posted on Fordham FB page. Did not hear the actual conversation.

It was noted he said he had seen 70-80 heart related Vax cases. No age was mentioned but can guess most under 50. You normally go to a GP first and then cardiologist so that indicates come concern by the patient and GP. If he has seen 70+ patitents then how many cardiologists are there in Oz and how many total cases. Then more importantly how many of those cases were reported up the line. I recall a few months ago Senator Rennick saying a cardiologist had wanted to report three Vax injury cases up the line but was rebuffed somehow. The under reporting will be huge as the TGA would not want us to know total number of referrals to cardiologists.

Incidentally one of the VIC Freedom Party candidates is a cardiologist who did not take the Vax. Chris Neil, who is President of the Australian Medical Proffesionals Society.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 26, 2022 9:31 am

custardsays:
November 26, 2022 at 9:02 am
From my link above

I believe that more indictments are to come and more revelations will be made concerning Konnech and Runbeck. Keep your eyes peeled. Something tells me the other shoe is about to drop.

custard,

yes I read through the Article and agree with everything they say, however, I am pessimistic re the outcome

Arizona counties will be forced to certify election despite ‘political theater’

Two counties have postponed until the last minute, but election lawyers say the courts will force the certification by the deadline no matter what.

and

Defeated Arizona hopeful Kari Lake sues Maricopa County election officials

On Election Day, the Lake campaign and a Republican coalition asked a state judge to extend voting in the county because of the issues, but the judge rejected the motion, saying he had seen no evidence that anyone was denied an opportunity to cast a ballot.

Lake’s new lawsuit, based on declarations from voters and poll workers, alleges 118 of the county’s 223 vote centers were affected by the printer issue, a higher number than the county’s suggestion of 70 affected locations, among other claims.

Although the suit does not demand a delay of Maricopa’s certification, Lake’s attorneys argued that reports the campaign received from voters meet the legal threshold for doing so.

Zipster
Zipster
November 26, 2022 9:34 am

REVEALED: Biden ordered Trudeau to END freedom convoy over fears US car plants would close within hours – before the Canadian PM invoked emergency powers to quash it
President Biden demanded Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau stop the ‘freedom convoy’ that protested at the border against vaccine mandates
Trudeau is set to testify Friday regarding his decision to clear out the convoy as part of a Canadian government investigation
The trucker protest grew until it closed vital trade routes along the Canada-U.S. border and shut down key parts of the capital for more than three weeks
Canadian Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland previously testified that Washington was ‘very, very, very worried’ about the blockades
The minister emailed staff on February 10 saying Washington feared ‘all of their northeastern car plants will shut down’ if the convoy was not stopped in 12 hours
Trudeau, according to texts between Clow and Freeland, talked to Biden about ‘money, people and political/media support’ from America
Three days after speaking with Biden, on February 14, Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act to clear out the protesters

mem
mem
November 26, 2022 9:35 am

Rabzsays:
November 26, 2022 at 9:16 am
A creature struggling to come to terms with the pointlessness of its existence.

I think you do the man an injustice. It takes great courage to return as the leader after such a prior walloping. I give him credit in holding the ship together given the barrage of criticism and the media locking him out. He has remained calm and resolute.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 26, 2022 9:36 am

rage on ABC
07 – Meghan Trainor, “Made you look”
Music- boop and click, faux brass
Lyrics- Louis Vuitton, I got nothing on, etc
Visuals- 25 preening drag queens

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 9:39 am

Incidentally one of the VIC Freedom Party candidates is a cardiologist who did not take the Vax. Chris Neil, who is President of the Australian Medical Proffesionals Society.

Is he preferencing Labor over the Liberals/Nationals?
I’ll bet he is.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 26, 2022 9:39 am

06 – some boy band, One Republic maybe
music- boop and click, boy falsteeo
visual- Top Gun with ripped chicks in the beach gridiron and Jennifer Conelly looking scrummy. I thoroughly approve.
lyric – i ain’t worried

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 26, 2022 9:41 am

Old and busted: The ChiCom Lung Pox.
The new hotness: The ‘Flu.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 26, 2022 9:43 am

Just part of article from Courier Mail. CDF asking for medals to be handed back. The alcohol drinking issue is a farce as SAS had a pub like premises and there is no way senior command did not know of its existence. Many visited it.

News Corp Australia understands the demand was issued to officers in command positions from captains to brigadier level in recent days, calling on them to hand back honours and awards including the Distinguished Service Medal.

Most were attached to the SAS Regiment and/or in the Special Operations Task Group (SOTG).

They have been given 28 days to provide notice on whether they considered their service to have been “distinguished”, specifically in the wake of allegations related to claims made in the defamation trial of Ben Roberts-Smith. This included evidence of alcohol drinking.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 26, 2022 9:44 am

05 – some grotesquely overweight dude
music – fill
lyric – fill
visual – adolescent fantasy, trashing the corner store

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 26, 2022 9:44 am

IT COULD BE WORSE, HE COULD BE CARRYING A COPY OF THE TIMES:

The New York Times Has Ideas on How to Handle a Guest Who Wants to Carry a Gun to Thanksgiving Dinner.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 9:45 am

Ed Casesays:
November 26, 2022 at 8:14 am
Died Suddenly
The Internet Documentary about Covid Vaccines.

See the 57 minute mark:
40 times the rate of Miscarriages since introduction of the Covid Vaccines, then there’s monstrous Birth defects.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 26, 2022 9:47 am

The mask is off: WEF’s Klaus Schwab declares China a ‘role model’

Once upon a time, the Soviets had a tightly controlled network of internationalists known as the COMINTERN to promote their communist model to Europe and beyond.

As it stands now, the Red Chinese have gone them one better: They’ve got Klaus Schwab.

According to Fox News:

World Economic Forum founder and Chair Klaus Schwab recently sat down for an interview with a Chinese state media outlet and proclaimed that China was a “role model” for other nations.

Schwab, 84, made these comments during an interview with CGTN’s Tian Wei on the sidelines of last week’s APEC CEO Summit in Bangkok, Thailand.

“I think we should be very careful in imposing systems. But the Chinese model is certainly a very attractive model for quite a number of countries,” Schwab said.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 26, 2022 9:48 am

04 – re-make of “blue”, a globetrotting early bit of EDM from belgium
music – club piano boop and click
lyric – I’m blue but I’m feeling alright. Having it both ways, and made the top ten, can’t chip them
visual – yuge town square rave, yachts and clubs, lotsa girls with shiny cleavages. Lots of very tight lycra, lotsa skin… i’d approve, but not 100% sure that 100% of them are cis-sluts

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 9:48 am

AG Jeff Landry
@AGJeffLandry
Wow! It was amazing to spend 7 hours with Dr. Fauci. The man who single-handedly wrecked the U.S. economy based upon “the science.” Only to discover that he can’t recall practically anything dealing with his Covid response!

miltonf
miltonf
November 26, 2022 9:50 am

That old canbra pubic parasite Burton also thought China was a model for the transformation of Australia

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 26, 2022 9:50 am

Disney’s first animated movie with a prominent gay character bombs

Weirdly, a country that is predominantly heterosexual just isn’t that interested in non-heterosexual romances (especially not for kids).

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 26, 2022 9:53 am

03 – Sam Smith , “unholy”
music – boop and click with churchy man chants. I should know the rip-off, but can’t think of itwhile it’s on if you know what I mean
lyric – dirty dirty girl, you don’t know tokeep your business clean
visual – borderline obscene, european jag-driver goes to a queer sex theatre club. Losa men dressed as women, preening queens of the tatt’ed fake-an-orgasm kind. Should not be watched by children, tho it is obviously calibrated to be un-censorable

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 26, 2022 9:54 am

That’d be a $500k film clip, at least

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 26, 2022 9:55 am

In Bendigo now, who in their perceived wisdom foisted Jacinta Allen on the Victoriastan public.
Sitting in a cafe, you just get the sense they will do so again. Hear a few comments about how well Labor did during the ‘pandemic’ so see what happens later today.

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2022 9:55 am

News Corp Australia understands the demand was issued to officers in command positions from captains to brigadier level in recent days, calling on them to hand back honours and awards including the Distinguished Service Medal.

I wonder if Angus Campbell DSC got one?

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 26, 2022 9:55 am

This included evidence of alcohol drinking.
Shock! Horror! Soldiers drink alcohol!

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 9:56 am

Oh Boy. Have they fkd it up this time;

A staggering 15 per cent of all borrowers will have their spare cash turn negative in the RBA’s base case. That means they are at a very serious risk of defaulting on their loan repayments.

A total of 23 per cent of all borrowers – or more than one in five – will see their spare cash shrink by between 60 per cent and more than 100 per cent.

Almost one-third of borrowers will have their free cash reduced by between 40 per cent and over 100 per cent.

This presages a huge reduction in household spending if the RBA gets to a 3.6 per cent cash rate next year. Note that this is actually slightly below current market pricing, which anticipates a higher 3.85 per cent terminal cash rate by mid-2023.

From Chris Joye;

This chart from the RBA shows that 50% of all borrowers will see their disposable income plunge by between 20% and 100% + over the next year…

Links;
https://www.afr.com/wealth/personal-finance/interest-rate-shock-just-around-the-corner-20221122-p5c0gr

https://twitter.com/cjoye/status/1596034967729221633

miltonf
miltonf
November 26, 2022 9:57 am

Bendigo also sent that Gibbon thing to Canbra

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 26, 2022 9:58 am

02 – Taylor Swift, Antihero
music – boop and click
lyric – someone or other is an antihero
visual – extended rich girl fantasy. I don’t mind Taytay, she wears her massive wealth lightly… there’s probably a university somewhere which does a masters on her multilayered FMCG persona

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 26, 2022 10:00 am

01 – whoops got mixed up, Swift was #1
…that was harder than I thought it might be

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2022 10:00 am

Is this migration, or illegal migration?

Legal migration.

Includes c. 90 000 Ukrainians + evacuees from Afghanistan and Hong Kongers entitled to enter on a special visa.

miltonf
miltonf
November 26, 2022 10:00 am

That’s very depressing BB

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 26, 2022 10:01 am

Marie Antoinette of Ukraine speaks

Zelensky’s wife claims Ukrainians ready to suffer

Freezing cold and electricity shortages “are not the worst thing,” she told the BBC

Ukrainians are ready to withstand heating and power outages for years if the country is eventually allowed to join the EU, First Lady Elena Zelenskaya has claimed. She was interviewed by the BBC on Friday.

Speaking to the British broadcaster after weeks of Russian strikes on Ukraine’s energy facilities, Zelenskaya said that Ukrainians were “ready to endure” a punishing winter if the country’s bid for EU membership was successful.

President Vladimir Zelensky’s wife cited a recent poll which reportedly found that 90% of Ukrainians would put up with power and heating shortages for two or three years if the country could become a member of the European bloc afterwards.

“We’ve had so many terrible challenges, seen so many victims, so much destruction, that blackouts are not the worst thing to happen to us,” she told the BBC.

Encouraged by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, Ukraine applied for EU membership in February, and was accepted as a candidate for accession in June. However, Kiev cannot join the bloc while engaged in armed conflict with its neighbor, and some member states have pointed out that the nation will have to root out corruption, clean up its human rights record, and strengthen the rule of law before it can be considered for membership.

As the temperature drops in Ukraine, Russia continues to strike targets of military significance across the country, including power plants and gas facilities. A wave of large-scale missile attacks on infrastructure objects were reported in Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa, Lviv, and other cities on Wednesday.

Kiev Mayor Vitaly Klitschko stated on Thursday that 70% of the Ukrainian capital was left without power following the strikes, while the CEO of Ukraine’s largest private power utility called last week for citizens to consider leaving the country for winter to reduce the burden on the damaged grid.

Russia has been targeting Ukraine’s energy facilities since October 10, after accusing Kiev of “terrorist” attacks on Russian infrastructure, including the strategically important Crimean Bridge. The missile and drone campaign has focused on “targets directly or indirectly related to [Ukraine’s] military potential,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Thursday.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 26, 2022 10:01 am

FMCG???

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 26, 2022 10:03 am

Further to posts above:

Defence Force chief calls on top officers to hand back honours and medals

Defence chief has called on his top officers from the Afghanistan conflict to hand back their medals claiming lack of distinguished service, sparking outrage.

Exclusive: Australian Defence Force chief General Angus Campbell has demanded some of his most senior officers surrender their honours and medals related to service in Afghanistan.

The stunning about-face move against his top brass follows the release of the damning Brereton report in November 2020 into alleged war crimes in Afghanistan by Australia’s Special Forces.

None of the top officers were believed to have been implicated or included in the adverse findings against 39 soldiers involved in 23 incidents currently the subject of a criminal police investigation.

But the latest move now signals that ultimately all levels of those in leadership positions have to bear some form of accountability for what has been an internationally condemned behaviour by some of Australia’s elite forces.

News Corp Australia understands the demand was issued to officers in command positions from captains to brigadier level in recent days, calling on them to hand back honours and awards including the Distinguished Service Medal.

Most were attached to the SAS Regiment and/or in the Special Operations Task Group (SOTG).

They have been given 28 days to provide notice on whether they considered their service to have been “distinguished”, specifically in the wake of allegations related to claims made in the defamation trial of Ben Roberts-Smith. This included evidence of alcohol drinking.

It is understood Gen Campbell has told his hierarchy he was prepared to go to the Governor-General to develop a mechanism whereby honours, awards and medals could be removed if officers chose not to give them up.

A Defence spokesperson declined to comment directly to questions related to those top officers, whom News Corp has chosen not to name, or how many troops this may now affect.

Last year, then Defence Minister Peter Dutton blocked the decision by the Defence Chief to strip unit citations from up to 3000 Special Forces post the release of the damning Brereton war crimes inquiry.

But that notification changed along with the change of government in May this year.

“In June 2021, the then Minister for Defence (Dutton) wrote to the CDF directing him to suspend any consideration of administrative action in relation to personnel who held command positions in the period within the scope of the Afghanistan Inquiry (2005 to 2016),” a Defence spokesperson said on Friday.

“Consequently, the CDF suspended his consideration of administrative action relating to command accountability. The Government has confirmed the CDF may recommence his consideration of administrative action for command accountability related to the Afghanistan Inquiry.

“To protect the privacy and support the welfare of our people, Defence will not comment on the circumstances of individuals,” the spokesperson said.

The action has caused some disquiet among our elite troops who fear all will again be shamed into returning honours despite no direct involvement in matters currently being investigated by the Office of the Special Investigator.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, one former elite soldier said the move has caused outrage in the ranks.

“Yup this has caused outrage at all levels (ranks), some of the guys are not even in service anymore and have been asked to come in and see the CDF to which they’ve said ‘f**k off’,” they said.

“He has told them he had to show government he was doing something about this discipline issues related to conduct like drinking (alcohol).”

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 26, 2022 10:04 am

Fast Moving Consumer Goods
Takeaway message- don’t let your kids watch “rage” alone. Just like any socialist media, there’s a huge dose of LGBTQIAPP+ grooming going on.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 26, 2022 10:07 am

Defence chief has called on his top officers from the Afghanistan conflict to hand back their medals claiming lack of distinguished service, sparking outrage.

Good luck recruiting for Special Air Service Regiment and Commando’s after this one!

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2022 10:15 am

World Economic Forum founder and Chair Klaus Schwab recently sat down for an interview with a Chinese state media outlet and proclaimed that China was a “role model” for other nations.

Meanwhile, the Chinese are rioting in cities and factories and forcing the “Big White” health mandate enforcers to retreat.

As usual, Klaus is about five years behind events.

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 10:16 am

I see the CCP and Xi going to great lengths to deepen ties t0 KSA and Afghanistan.

Insurance?

Recent info ;

Afghanistan does sit atop huge deposits of copper, iron, marble, talc, coal, lithium, chromite, cobalt, gold, lapis lazuli, gemstones, and more—making Afghanistan one of the world’s most resource-rich countries on paper.

(On Afghanistan ) The efforts are nothing like the United States’ gargantuan nation-building campaign. Instead, Beijing’s goal is to neutralize the dangers from what has long been a problematic neighbor, while pursuing wider policies such as its Belt and Road Initiative, which aims to develop international infrastructure links, and the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a $62-billion project to construct transportation networks, energy infrastructure and special economic zones, which Beijing wants to extend to include Afghanistan.

China and Arab nations will hold a summit in Saudi Arabia early next month, setting up the possibility that Chinese President Xi Jinping will visit the key energy partner for the first time in nearly seven years

Bluey
Bluey
November 26, 2022 10:16 am

Having done my civic duty, at the nearest voting center, I can report the greens and labor HTV people were doing a brisk business. Liberal not so much, and the freedom party not at all.

Much to my surprise one of the greens HTV people was actually a fit young bloke, not the usual fat slob.

As I left a well dressed bloke appeared with HTV for the Lib dems, but I didn’t see him getting any business.

Far as I can tell from my small chunk of the world, this seat will remain in Labor hands. Hardly unexpected, giving how safe a seat it is. I’m somewhat shocked at the number of socialist parties on the ballot though.

Leaning very much to approach from aliens. Nuke it from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 10:17 am

Defence chief has called on his top officers from the Afghanistan conflict to hand back their medals claiming lack of distinguished service, sparking outrage.

Standard behaviour by the Defence Force chiefs.
Since they can’t [credibly] defend a small minority of War Criminals, they’ve tarred the lot with that brush.

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 10:18 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 26, 2022 10:18 am

Nothing malicious here, it’s just a product of comparing apples with oranges. We can file it under lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Good analysis there, Mater, there is a lot of possible hidden sampling bias and other confounders in the data so it becomes next to impossible to be certain if there is a fully independent IVF effect. Possibly one might tease out an effect by ancova analysis of a carefully selected sub-sample, but it would still be dicey. Probably best just to recognise that early pregnancy can be inherently unstable – which is why down the ages women haven’t wanted to announce it till ‘the quickening’ at around four months.

‘The quickening’ is extraordinary. A flutter, unlike any other abdominal movement you’ve felt, like a little bird in there. Close to term, the movements and swoops of the swollen belly, with an occasional very obvious little foot or knee or elbow roaming across it, are both hilarious and awe-inspiring.

IVF is extremely common these days. History also shows us that infertility often blighted marriages in the past – agains for reasons mostly unfathomable. Women are encouraged these days to seek IVF if they are over thirty for a first pregnancy and have been trying for one year without success.

Bluey
Bluey
November 26, 2022 10:19 am

I forgot, one of the local independents had a few people handing out the HTV cards. Comparable numbers to the libs.

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 10:21 am
Bob Sewell
November 26, 2022 10:27 am

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiZBNkcaAAAZHzv?format=png&name=900×900
This chart from the RBA shows that 50% of all borrowers will see their disposable income plunge by between 20% and 100% + over the next year… https://afr.com/wealth/personal-finance/interest-rate-shock-just-around-the-corner-20221122-p5c0gr
Dunno what happened, but some twit said there’d be rioting in the streets if the rate went to 8% for home loans. It didn’t happen at 17.5% – I doubt it would happen now.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 10:28 am

Queensland Election, 2015:
LNP Government started Election Day with 78 of 89 Seats,
the ALP had 7 Seats.
By 6:25 pm that night, the Majority was gone, and Campbell Newman conceded defeat at 7:30pm.
Bottom line:
Andrews:
Gone.

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 10:28 am

Preferred VIC Premier

48 % Danolov

34 % Sleepy Matt

That’s Sicktoria.

Bob Sewell
November 26, 2022 10:33 am

Wodger:

Meanwhile, the Chinese are rioting in cities and factories and forcing the “Big White” health mandate enforcers to retreat.
As usual, Klaus is about five years behind events.

…or ten years ahead, Wodger.
Don’t doubt this lunatics wish to cause harm to the society that elevated him to his current position.

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 10:34 am

History also shows us that infertility often blighted marriages in the past

Possibly because a percentage of people had stds.
UK seemed to have hovered around 7 8 % with syphilis for centuries.
18th century
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4109696/

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 10:36 am

Dunno what happened, but some twit said there’d be rioting in the streets if the rate went to 8% for home loans. It didn’t happen at 17.5% – I doubt it would happen now.
Here’s what happened:
Rates went from 2.5% to 17.5% over a 10 year period, during which there were 2 property busts and the Banks had a conservative lending policy.
There hasn’t been a property bust for 20+ years now, but if rates go to 8%, the increased payment/Income will dwarf anything that occurred when Howard was Treasurer.

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 10:37 am

Poll from the Age.

Unsurprisingly, Environment , Debt and Integrity don’t matter when COL is going crazy. Even moreso next year when mortgage rate resets will crush millions of households.

Watch the SFL’s studiously ignore it.

__________________________________________

Policy priority
Q: What one issue do you think is the highest priority for you and your state vote choice right now?
Keeping the cost of living low
27%

Healthcare and aged care
12%
The environment and climate change
12%

Economic management and recovery
8%
Integrity in politics and government
7%

Jobs and wages
6%
Undecided
6%
Managing the state’s finances
4%

Education
3%
Transport infrastructure
3%

132andBush
132andBush
November 26, 2022 10:37 am

I hear Dan Andrews hit nine “holes in one” when he last played a round of golf.

How could Victorians not vote for such a man?

miltonf
miltonf
November 26, 2022 10:39 am

Andrews is one of the poisonous and bitter fruits of the post wwII expansion of tertiary ejucashun. Monash was not called the sewer for nothing.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2022 10:39 am

Preferred VIC Premier

48 % Danolov

34 % Sleepy Matt

Keep on coping.
Andrews is still gone.

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2022 10:40 am

…or ten years ahead, Wodger.

In ten years China will have fallen off its self-inflicted demographic cliff, Bob.

Not a great testimony to the virtues of centralised control & planning in a one party state that Klaus views as the ideal model.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2022 10:41 am

Is the Grigbot working OK today? There seems to be a problem. Has anyone tried turning it off and on?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 26, 2022 10:45 am

Ed Case at 0939 thinks a Dr who did not take the Vax and is standing for the Freedom Party would preference Labor over Liberals.

Answer is no as preferences them much higher than Labor and here is a clue from Freedom Party web page :

Freedom Party of Victoria is the result of three years of dedication towards building a credible and reliable alternative for Victorians who have suffered enormously under the watch of an incompetent and corrupt government that needs to be changed.

Plus their How to vote cards clearly indicate want Labor gone.

You are welcome, but Ed yet again proves he is an idiot.

bons
bons
November 26, 2022 10:47 am

Razey, you are absolutely correct.
The nation is teetering on the abyss and a newly recharged Hunchback will set his apprentice Albanese upon us like a rabid wolf.
Transferring corporate profits from shareholders to union thugs (“getting wages moving”).
Death tax.
End to franking credits (Tit’s revenge).
Further increases to royalties to the point where miners are working for the Governmrnt, not shareholders.
Asset stripping retirees.
End to health insurance ‘concession’.
Direct control of employment.
Enshrining local government into the Constitution.
Union membership on all boards.
Government forced price increases accompanied by price caps????
Etc:
The point is that this mob are not a government, they are a union gang. Andrews has shown them that no rules need to apply.
I received an email from a Western Australian miner last week crowing that they had voluntarily donated $30m to the WA Infrastructure Improvement Fund – c’mon, it was extortion wasn’t it Alannah.
Being even more stupid than Whitlam, they haven ‘t worked out that if you destroy enterprise you eventually run out of marks to extort and eventually you can no longer borrow against our great grandkids’ earning potential.
It is over for at least two generations.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 26, 2022 10:49 am

I like the way this guy thinks:
https://barsoom.substack.com/p/just-look-up

Pogria
Pogria
November 26, 2022 10:52 am

Tintarella di Lunasays:
November 26, 2022 at 6:04 am
Ah, 30, I used to be thirty, that was a good age to be, but glad to be passed it, and well into doubling it, and the pleasure is now doubled. I can explain but won’t bore you with the how and the why.

Tinta, at thirty, I had a son, a good life with my son’s father. Like you, a good age to be.

Now, like yourself my age is doubled, I was discarded and cut loose. After the obligatory tears and stuff, I realised I had been let free, not cut loose.

I now live in a tiny country town where the locals look out for me. It is not the first time I have started over so the future is in my hands again. As you stated, the pleasure is doubled. Thanks Tinta.
By the way, the sun is shining for the third day in a row, what a glorious time to be alive. Off to mow.

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 10:52 am

In ten years China will have fallen off its self-inflicted demographic cliff, Bob.

They will catch up;
May ’21- “China has announced that it will allow couples to have up to three children, after census data showed a steep decline in birth rates.”

And where will the US be then by comparison. Still Governed federally by woke leftist sewer dwellers, bitterly opposing conservative values ? Tearing itself steadily apart?

While the US slimes it’s way forward with woke failed mates in the EU, UK and Canada, China is relentlessly forging hard commercial relations with resource rich entities globally reducing it’s risk on say… Australia.

It will be a very interesting next 10 years or so.

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2022 10:54 am

Klaus Schwab is basically as con man who has done very well for himself by exploiting the vanity of important people by getting them together with other important people and charging them to listen to him tell them what they want to hear. Which all makes them feel even more important! He then takes the funds of his not for profit enterprise and uses them to finance his for profit ventures. He doesn’t need to be right for this swindle to continue – which is just as well because he seldom is; globalism, for e.g. is collapsing into multipolarity just as he has reached the supposed zenith of his influence – just plausible enough to keep the mugs coming along and paying the dues and fees.

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2022 10:56 am

They will catch up;
May ’21- “China has announced that it will allow couples to have up to three children

Young Chinese women aren’t interested in having babies. They’re besotted with materialism and unwilling to sacrifice.

Bob Sewell
November 26, 2022 10:58 am

Wodger:

Not a great testimony to the virtues of centralised control & planning in a one party state that Klaus views as the ideal model.

Klaus likes it for his model with him in control.
Yours and mine, not so much.

Zipster
Zipster
November 26, 2022 11:00 am

They will catch up;
May ’21- “China has announced that it will allow couples to have up to three children, after census data showed a steep decline in birth rates.”

has barely made a blip so far. too little too late.

Bob Sewell
November 26, 2022 11:00 am

HBBear:

Is the Grigbot working OK today? There seems to be a problem. Has anyone tried turning it off and on?

I think someone gave it a kick in the nuts but it doesn’t seem to have worked.
Maybe another, to be sure?

bons
bons
November 26, 2022 11:01 am

Campbell digging that hole even deeper attempting to cover up senior Defence and Army level officers’ failings in management of the Afghanistan operations.
An officer of even the most minor moral base would have accepted his responsibility and resigned, not blamed the ‘help’.
That generation of senior officers has been a disaster for our nation.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2022 11:02 am

I hear Dan Andrews hit nine “holes in one” when he last played a round of golf.

That was also his first round of golf.

I remember when he first appeared, barechested and astride a white stallion which he rode down from a snow-capped mountain.

Zipster
Zipster
November 26, 2022 11:02 am

Covid deaths and systemic adverse effects
Dr. John Campbell
Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)

5,542 reports of adverse events after bivalent booster vaccination (?12 years)

95.5% of reports were nonserious

4.5% were serious events

MatrixTransform
November 26, 2022 11:03 am

nearly time for the vote.

instead of Democracy Sausage I’m hoping they have some Animal Farms

aka
buttered egg, bacon, & cheese rolls

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 26, 2022 11:03 am

In ten years China will have fallen off its self-inflicted demographic cliff, Bob.

Indeed Roger. I do hope it keeps them busy though. They still have huge numbers of fighting aged males compared to the west and more importantly if presented the will to expend them. I harbour concerns that Xi may use this as a convenient distraction for his hugely indoctrinated nationalistic population when times start getting tough. Taiwan or maybe by proxy through North Korea where the CCP comes to “the aid” of an ally.

Number of more level headed writers I have read who have time in the Middle Kingdom have stated this is the known unknown when times get tough.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2022 11:04 am

Government to pregnant women:
No alcohol!
No smoking!
Here – have an experimental vaccine to keep granny safe.
…..
No soft cheese!

PHRASING.

JC
JC
November 26, 2022 11:05 am

Makka says:
November 26, 2022 at 10:52 am

In ten years China will have fallen off its self-inflicted demographic cliff, Bob.

Peter Zeihan reckons they’re lying. He reckons their population peaked and tipped over the aging pyramid 10 year ago. He also reckons the provinces were lying about their population sizes big time in order to get more money allocated to them from Beijing. He also claims the population is over-estimated by 200 million because of the lying.

H does lots of YouTube.

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2022 11:08 am

Klaus likes it for his model with him in control.

He’s 84; he’d better get a move on!

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2022 11:11 am

Peter Zeihan reckons they’re lying. He reckons their population peaked and tipped over the aging pyramid 10 year ago.

I think he’s right. Even the central authorities are surprised by the recent collpase in the figures, hence the scrambling to do something.

Plus they have very high abortion rates (more than twice the US) and subsequent infertility issues.

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 11:11 am

has barely made a blip so far. too little too late.

The way the US is headed, China doesn’t have to do too much over time to come out well ahead. If the US can’t correct itself and overcome the influence of corrosive woke leftism and it’s addiction to absurd levels of debt, time is on China’s side ultimately. That is not good news for us.

Cassie of Sydney
November 26, 2022 11:12 am

“Klaus Schwab is basically as con man who has done very well for himself by exploiting the vanity of important people by getting them together with other important people and charging them to listen to him tell them what they want to hear. “

Yep….once upon a time, even as recently as twenty years ago, Schwab would have been laughed at for being the James Bond type villain he is. It’s a sad indictment of the state of the West that he’s now taken seriously.

Zipster
Zipster
November 26, 2022 11:13 am

Antifa extremists stage plans to burn down Tesla outlets following Twitter bans
‘As revenge for [Elon Musk] suspending violent extremist accounts on Twitter, [Antifa] in Portland are organizing arson attacks on [Tesla] locations tonight,’ reported Ngo, who provided screenshots of the calls to action

Zipster
Zipster
November 26, 2022 11:14 am
Bob Sewell
November 26, 2022 11:20 am

Eyrie:
Postcards from Barsoom:
This monologue of our failure to grasp the opportunity of space industrialisation is something to either get angry over, or just weep in frustration at the sheer stupidity of mankind.

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2022 11:23 am

He does lots of YouTube.

Yeah, he’s good…but I don’t learn by watching videos but by reading.

His ‘The End of the World is Just the Beginning’ was dropped off by my friendly courier last week. So far I think he’s spot on.

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2022 11:32 am
Zipster
Zipster
November 26, 2022 11:32 am

Dr Geert Vanden Bossche stopped posting on social media due to the relentless assault, however his views are still availlable in alt media.

Covid Vaccines Driving Dangerous Variants & Immune Suppression -Dr Geert Vanden Bossche

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 11:32 am

Ziehan’s premise is that the US is self sufficient in oil production. In 2022 that’s not correct. Not with this (and the next?) woke Administration.

“The book lays out his thesis that the US sponsored Bretton Woods world order (“the Order” for short) is going to collapse. With the Cold War over and an energy independent America, the superpower is no longer supporting globalization. “

However, globalization may well be in reverse but for entirely different reasons. With different ramifications.

Bob Sewell
November 26, 2022 11:43 am

Makka:

They will catch up;
May ’21- “China has announced that it will allow couples to have up to three children, after census data showed a steep decline in birth rates.”

There are millions of Chinese women now in their 50’s who had their babies forcibly aborted, even murdered during birth. I wonder how they will take this? So many murdered babies is NOT something Xi will be capable of just passing off as inconsequential.
This particular chicken is still wending its way home to the roost. It may just be able to bring the Communists down.
See One Child Nation by Amazon Studios.
“Every woman has almost gone through a forced abortion or forced sterilization,” Nanfu Wang, co-director and producer of the documentary, told PBS. “Sometimes the babies…they were born alive, and because of the policy and her job, she had to kill them after they were born alive, and she is really traumatized because of that.”
Yeah. My heart bleeds for her.

Wang spoke to the midwife who delivered her, who admitted doing 50 to 60,000 abortions over her time to enact a policy that the government claims prevented 400 million births.

And there will be no Nuremberg Trial for the people who did this. Instead our political class will stand mute as they herd the Uighurs into Concentration and Organ Donation camps.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 26, 2022 11:46 am

“I think we should be very careful in imposing systems. But the Chinese model is certainly a very attractive model for quite a number of countries,” Schwab said.

So we should build lots of coal and nuclear generators? And promise to stabilise our CO2 emissions by sometime after 2050? Isn’t that the Chinese model?

Makka
Makka
November 26, 2022 11:54 am

Bob Sewellsays:
November 26, 2022 at 11:43 am

I realise all that Bob. But that’s not my point. Of course China has it’s problems. I’m not convinced at all that China’s demographic issue is sufficient to overcome it’s relative progress versus the US. China is wielding serious global influence and it’s growing. Especially funding woke leftism in western nations. I also think that it has it’s population well under control absent famine. Which would dramatically change things there if it could not be managed.

IMO the problem is the US. It’s future is very finely balanced between ongoing leadership or decline. The next couple of Administrations I think will show how that future will unfold so those elections become crucial. Currently I see a US entering decline unless arrested. For the reasons I mentioned above.

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