Open Thread – Tue 6 Dec 2020


Mary and Joseph on the Way to Bethlehem, Hugo van der Goes, 1475


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Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 11:28 am

A black man, Mexican man and a redneck are walking down the beach one day when they stumble upon a magical lamp.

They rub it and a Genie pops out!

“Thank you for freeing me from 1000 years inside! I will grant each of you ONE wish!”

The black man goes first. “I wish all black people could be returned to Africa to live peacefully and happily with all the resources to guarantee a great life for many generations to come”.

*POOF* his wish is granted.

The Mexican man goes next: “I wish all Mexican people could be returned to Mexico to live peacefully and happily with all the resources to guarantee a great life for many generations to come”.

*POOF* his wish is granted.

The redneck says “Wait… so all the blacks are in Africa… and all the Mexicans are in Mexico? And I’ll never see them again?”

“Yes” says the genie.

“Okay. I guess I’ll have a Diet Coke”.

Rabz
December 6, 2022 11:28 am

the art of ecky carve

calli – a variant of ecky thoomp?

m0nty
December 6, 2022 11:33 am

Guccifer (not to be confused with Guccifer 2.0) was the Obama-era original who hacked the Hildebeeste Home Server.

No, he didn’t hack Hillary’s server. He claimed that he did to Fox News, but then later recanted to the Feds.

If he had hacked it, he would have released the emails as that is what he did with all his other hacks.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 6, 2022 11:34 am

Yet, according to Perrottet, the premiers have yet to receive any paperwork detailing the proposal.

The NSW Lib’s best (and perhaps only) hope in the coming election will be standing up to Federal Labor, especially as some of the shine begins wear off and their incompetence blossoms, which will be helped by their need to maintain at least the appearance of cooperation and solidarity with the direful Dan Andrews.

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 11:38 am

By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.

– Confucius

Beertruk
Beertruk
December 6, 2022 11:38 am

This shit will never end:
‘Momentous’: Ardern issues historic Maori apology and $155m in redress
ByBen McKay
December 5, 2022 — 5.22pm

Wellington: New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has issued a “long overdue” apology to a Maori tribe for warmongering and almost two centuries of breaches to the Treaty of Waitangi.

Ardern travelled to the King Country settlement of Te Kuiti to issue the Crown apology, the first she has delivered personally as part of reconciliation and treaty settlement efforts.

After 30 years of negotiations with the Ngati Maniapoto tribe, the government agreed to $NZ165 million ($155 million) of financial and commercial redress, and the return of 36 sites of cultural significance to Maori.

Jacinda Ardern issued the apology on Sunday, acknowledging the government at the time was responsible for “devastating long-term prejudice”
Jacinda Ardern issued the apology on Sunday, acknowledging the government at the time was responsible for “devastating long-term prejudice”CREDIT:NZ HERALD

“This is a momentous occasion for both Maniapoto and the Crown and marks the beginning of a renewed relationship,” Ardern said, reading the formal apology in both English and the Maori language at a ceremony attended by 3000 people on Sunday.

Historic wrongdoing dates back to the mid 19th century, when the colonial government fought with Maori over land.

“The Crown profoundly regrets its horrific and needless acts of war and raupatu [land confiscation] which have caused you and your hapu [tribe] inter-generational suffering,” Ardern said.

“Instead of respecting your mana whakahaere [authority], the Crown killed and injured your people, and pillaged your land and property.”

In the late 19th century, locals were pressured to open up to European settlement and run a railroad through Maniapoto territory, which led to aggressive land acquisitions from Maori hands.

Bella Takiari-Brame, who will administer a trust arising from the settlement, said the impact was still felt in 2022.

“We lost our land. We lost our language. We’ve lost our identity and it created inequities and disparities since for our people,” she told TVNZ.

“We have clear aspirations to ensure we return to who we were. We were entrepreneurs. We were exporting overseas. We were thriving.”

“As a result, your hapu and whanau [families] have faced significant socio-economic deprivation and lived in worse conditions than non-Maori. You were prevented from reaching your full social and economic potential and had to fight to maintain your Maniapoto identity and language.”

The Treaty of Waitangi, signed in 1840 by representatives of the British Crown and hundreds of Maori chiefs, is considered NZ’s foundational document.

Misunderstandings over its meaning and translation continue to hound reconciliation efforts and full participation of Maori in modern life.

Since 1975 – when the Waitangi Tribunal was founded – governments of all political persuasions have pursued treaty settlements as a means of rectifying those wrongdoings, signing dozens of settlements and apologies.

Treaty Negotiations Minister Andrew Little said he wanted the apology to “lay the groundwork for a new partnership to provide for the future wellbeing and prosperity of Maniapoto”.

“When Maniapoto rangatira [Maori chiefs] signed the Treaty in 1840, they expected to build a partnership with the Crown,” he said.

“For more than a century after this, the Crown repeatedly broke the promises it made leading to devastating loss of life and land, and social and economic deprivation.”

Thought I would link to this as well:
RELATED ARTICLE
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Indigenous Voice
‘Too important to fail’: Clock ticking to get bipartisan support for Indigenous Voice
Michelle Grattan
Michelle Grattan
Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra

Anal Alboseazey channeling Horse Face Adern on the InVoice?:
The apology followed a two-day celebration of a new “whare tupuna” [ancestral house] built in Te Kuiti.

Meanwhile, the last major public poll of 2022 has underscored the tough task ahead for Ardern’s Labour party to win a third term at next year’s election.

A TVNZ-Kantar poll released on Monday confirms opposition party National’s ascendancy, with 38 per cent support to Labour’s 33 per cent.

If those numbers are repeated at the 2023 election, National would govern with a majority in coalition with the right-wing ACT party, which polled 11 per cent.

Citing rising cost of living and inflation, Ardern told TVNZ there was “no question it is a difficult time to be in government”.

“Our job is to crack on because we have the privilege of governing, and that is what we’re doing,” she said.

The figures stand in stark contrast to where Ardern and Labour finished last year, with a 41 to 28 lead over centre-right National.

National has led Labour in the last six polls published by broadcasters, TVNZ and Three.

A major difference is opposition leader Chris Luxon, who took the helm 12 months ago, correlating to the start of National’s soaring support.

The former Air New Zealand chief executive recorded his best-ever personal support in the TVNZ poll at 23 per cent.

While Ardern remains ahead, she clocked her worst result of 29 per cent.

AAP

calli
calli
December 6, 2022 11:42 am

Yes, Rabz.

But with a chef’s knife, not a black pudding. Grasshopper learned rapidly, too!

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 6, 2022 11:48 am

I’m thinking that paper ballots ONLY and dye on the thumb are the way to go.
i.e. no pre poll vote, no postals

If you can’t make to a polling booth then tough luck.

Tom
Tom
December 6, 2022 11:50 am

32% of the primary vote means that 68% (a decent majority) want someone else in government.
proportional and compulsory voting need to go. A small first step to recovery.

You’re kidding.

We’re in lefty nirvana.

They have an old Troskyist in the lodge surrounded by Green communists and the rich dumb sheilas from the suburbs, the Teals. In May, the Liars got only 32% per cent of the primary vote – three percentage points less than the LNP as voters deserted both of the major parties.

This is what the Greens dream of: running the country when fewer than two-thirds of the country have voted for their useful idiots of choice, the Liars.

Prime Minister Elbow is surrounded by Greens and Teals in his Sydney suburban electorate. They just have to shout “Jump!” and Elbow squeaks: “How high?”

So we’ll get three more years of the mad lefty Green agenda, knowing there’s zero chance that any of it will be reversed because the notional opposition in the LNP has been hollowed out and neutralised with little chance of reoccupying the government benches any time in the next decade.

Once thought of as sanity’s lone holdout in the LNP, Peter Dutton was the last man standing when Morrison destroyed the smoking ruins of the old government in May and is now scared of his own shadow.

More importantly, Dutton thinks it’s his job to get the Canberra media rat-pack onside when they all voted Liars-Greens.

Peter, matey, getting the media onside won’t get you a single vote, but it’ll cost you plenty because every time you do what the media wants you to do, you alienate aspirational middle Australia en masse.

harrys on the boat
December 6, 2022 11:55 am

Seems like only yesterday m0nty was telling us how God like and presidential Avenetti was. A legal genius who will bring down Trump. Then m0nty threw his considerable weight behind the old whore Stormy, who along with Avenetti would bring down Trump because he watched an episode of The View.

You know fuck all, m0nty, absolutely fuck all.

You told us the laptop didn’t exist. Then it was Russian disinformation. Now the laptop does exist but its just pics and videos of Hunter abusing whores and smoking crack.

You know fuck all, monty, absolutely fuck all. If you had a shred of decency you’d die of shame.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 6, 2022 11:57 am

m0ntysays:
December 6, 2022 at 8:05 am
The story is that the blind repairman gave the laptop to the Feds. The “laptop” that you talk about now is a disk image he made. There is no way to verify whether the contents of the copy are all 100% legit, or whether it has been added to or amended.

It’s still more reliable than the bogus Steele Dossier.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 6, 2022 11:58 am

Alphabet cohort hit hard. Hun:

Illicit drug use is higher among the LGBTQA community in Australia than the general population, according to a new survey.
Researchers asked about 6000 young LGBTQA Aussies about their drug use and found one in four participants aged 14-17 and two in five aged 18-21 reported drug use.
Cannabis was the most popular drug (28.3 percent) followed by MDMA (7.1 percent). Cisgender men and those who had experienced sexual harrassment, were more likely to report illicit drug use.

m0nty
December 6, 2022 11:58 am

That’s a lot of butt hurt, harry. Are you tired of winning yet?

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 11:58 am

Rabzsays:
December 6, 2022 at 11:28 am
the art of ecky carve

calli – a variant of ecky thoomp?

Could well be……………….

https://www.facebook.com/networkdistributing/videos/ecky-thump/466257020537158/

Zipster
December 6, 2022 11:59 am

“Our job is to crack on because we have the privilege of governing, and that is what we’re doing,” she said.

you are not governing you are ruling over the people

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 6, 2022 12:01 pm

Lot of volcanoes erupting at the moment, in Chile, Hawaii and Indonesia.

The Smithsonian/USGS weekly reports are always good stuff, plus their extensive database of world volcanoes and historic eruptions:
Kaboom!

And if the earth moves for you there’s the USGS earthquake map, which is likewise excellent:
Rock ‘n’ roll!

Well worth bookmarking.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 12:02 pm

Cisgender men

there is no such thing as cisgender men, men are just men. homosexuals are just homosexuals.

woke neomarxists can shove their orwelian language up their arse

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 6, 2022 12:03 pm

m0ntysays:
December 6, 2022 at 8:56 am
Mind you, the contents of Hillary’s emails were equally pissweak, and they managed to ratfsck an election with that. It’s all about the delivery, isn’t it? Blow enough smoke and pretend there’s something in Al Capone’s vault. The fact that there’s nothing there is immaterial, it’s all about the con.

m0nty=fa still in denial.

However, his final sentence is the standard approach for so-called “progressives” (actually, fascists).

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 6, 2022 12:03 pm

woke neomarxists can shove their orwelian language up their arse

Yes yesterday’s terminology is today’s hate speech.

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 12:04 pm
alwaysright
alwaysright
December 6, 2022 12:04 pm

So how does one verify that a disc image has not been tampered with?
Much would depend of the file system that is in use.
Unless you create a message digest at the time of creation, I can see no way of detecting a fiddling of the image.

Speedbox
December 6, 2022 12:07 pm

Demand for steel fortifications in Halls Creek is so high the outback Kimberley town’s main supplier is rushed off his feet. Halls Creek is in the grip of a youth crime wave, described as “relentless” and with brazen acts now being carried out in daylight.

This is despite the multi-million dollar Kimberley police operation Regional Shield, which has had its effectiveness questioned by the WA Police Union last week. “It’s always kids. It’s relentless… there’s no repercussions or consequences,” said Wesley Bambling, who has run a steel fabrication business in the town for five years.

The welder and metal fabricator said steel doors, gates, cages and barricades accounted for almost 70 per cent of his business. “All sorts of business or government organisations, especially those with houses … I’ve had to put steel bars across houses to stop [the youth] getting in,” Mr Bambling said.

“I’m about to put up new gates and security doors — actually frames bolted in front of the doors — with a fabricated door that’s made out of 50 RHS [a type of steel bar] to stop the kids trashing and breaking into that place.”

And while the barricade business might be booming, Mr Bambling’s industrial yard has also been broken into four times. “I’ve been nowhere near as badly hit as other businesses,” he said.

But his three guard dogs have often been injured. “They try to hit them through the fence. You’ll find bits of steel laying around the yard when you come to work in the morning where they’ve been trying to get in.”

Raymond Simpson, who’s lived in Halls Creek for a decade, is fortifying his house with steel doors costing thousands of dollars, and has slept with furniture propped against all the doors after three recent break-ins.

Mr Simpson says he’s fortified his home since his third burglary in a few weeks. In one burglary in November his car keys were stolen and the following night his vehicle taken, despite being blocked in, and driven through locked gates.

“My car went on a four-hour joy ride, for which, believe it or not, there were people coming out onto the street with chairs and cups of coffee to watch the show,” Mr Simpson said. “You could hear where the car was, you could see the plumes of dust. They were having a great time jumping dirt mounds and going through gullies.

There’s more at the link.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-06/kimberley-town-fortifies-itself-against-crime/101734828

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 6, 2022 12:07 pm

People prior to COVID walked around in hospitals unmasked, with masks only used during surgical procedures or in infectious/ immunosurpressed units. Given the above, I’m not even sure that talking during surgical procedures would be a problem.

For those of you who think ‘masks in operating theatres’ is a gold standard, I refer you to this paper: Postoperative wound infections and surgical face masks: a controlled study. T G Tunevall.

Result: During 115 weeks, a total of 3,088 patients were included in the study. Weeks were denoted as “masked” or “unmasked” according to a random list. After 1,537 operations performed with face masks, 73 (4.7%) wound infections were recorded and, after 1,551 operations performed without face masks, 55 (3.5%) infections occurred. (ie using masks jncreased wound infections by 34%).

This matches an earlier study where a 50% increase in wound infections was shown with mask use.

And note: the surgical mask is meant to stop spit dropping into the wound from the surgeon – a much easier task than sieving infinitely smaller aerosols!

duncanm
duncanm
December 6, 2022 12:08 pm

Not just Drumgold. Serious questions need to be asked of Heidi Yates, too.

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 12:08 pm

You know fuck all, monty, absolutely fuck all. If you had a shred of decency you’d die of shame.

MontyPox Virus will surely die of a virus. But not of a virus impacting the brain as he does not have one. A brain that is……………………………..

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 6, 2022 12:12 pm

How curious.
Painted and costumed lady was offended by being asked about ancestry and yet says this…

Describing her interaction with the 83-year-old, Fulani said: “I was stood next to two other women – black women – and she [Susan Hussey] just made a beeline for me and she took my locks and moved it out of the way so that she could see my name badge.

That’s a no-no. I wouldn’t put my hands in someone’s hair and culturally it’s not appropriate.”

Which culture?

Fulani told ITV’s Good Morning Britain last week that although she didn’t experience “physical violence” she would describe her encounter as “a form of abuse”.

ooooh the whining grifter who is paid money to operate a grifting “charity” culture.

johanna
johanna
December 6, 2022 12:13 pm

Elbow gets COVID again? Those shots must really be working.

On a personal note, friends I used to see every Christmas have banned me because I am unvaxxed. Superstition is very powerful, even in allegedly enlightened cultures.

At the mall yesterday perhaps 2% were wearing masks. No particular pattern in terms of demographics. Except that the Grab ‘N’ Go medical centre had a big sign on the door declaring that Masks Are Mandatory. What a farce.

bespoke
bespoke
December 6, 2022 12:14 pm

So how does one verify that a disc image has not been tampered with?

Depends on who created it.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 12:15 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
December 6, 2022 12:17 pm

Re submarines, the ALP always has a vice-like grip on wanting to build anything here. The idea that you need a weapon platform comes a distant second.

Building nuclears here is insane. Submarines are more complex than spacecraft, and we didn’t cover ourselves with glory with the Collins-class.

My prediction is the sub project will fade off into the background, with the feds counting on a) the USA will increase its presence here, which will be a deterrent, and b) the Chinese won’t go to war anyway.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 6, 2022 12:19 pm

the whining grifter who is paid money to operate a grifting “charity” culture

Speaking of whining grifters Avenatti has been sentenced to 14 years in the slammer.
It’s a long way from all those yummy paid guest spots on CNN.
I wonder if the outraged lady will get work at the BBC?

Zipster
December 6, 2022 12:19 pm

https://www.c40.org/cities/

what is odd about this map? the countries signed up for the “consumer intervention” suicide pact, exclude one major country…. Russia.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 6, 2022 12:20 pm

For reference montys talking points yesterday were lifted almost word for work from… the bulwark.
Head over to Ace of Spades blog for confirmation.

Michael Avenatti sentenced to 14 years for cheating clients out of millions
Lawyer known for representing Stormy Daniels also ordered to pay $7m on top of time he is already serving

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 6, 2022 12:20 pm

m0nty=fa

Like I said, Hillary’s emails ended up being risotto recipes and other such non-events

Mixed with classified material. Stop lying, no-one with any knowledge will be convinced by your lies.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 12:20 pm

CCP is to impose a communal lifestyle. A planned economy is about to go full swing

On October 31st, 2022, China’s Ministry of Housing and Construction and Ministry of Civil Affairs issued a joint notice requesting each city & region to select three to five communities to start a pilot project of building “a complete community.” The plan is to implement the idea nationwide in two years’ time. It’s to construct “large packages” of essential services, including communal canteens. Previously, we reported that the Chinese government has been expanding supply and distribution cooperatives throughout the country. These are all signs that the planned economy version 2.0 is starting up in China after the 20th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party ended.
It showed that the Communist Party at that time wanted not only to implement a system of full and unrestricted public ownership in order to control the political and economic life of the entire society but also to impose a communal lifestyle, forcing its way into the private sphere and controlling the decisions of individual life.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 6, 2022 12:22 pm

We should ask Monty what he thinks of nice Mr Avenatti.

local oaf
December 6, 2022 12:22 pm

Elbow gets COVID again? Those shots must really be working.

Did he get covid? Media says he had a PCR test.

The CDC recommended the discontinuation of the PCRs because they couldn’t distinguish between covid and the flu. Or any other respiratory virus probably.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 6, 2022 12:23 pm

My prediction is the sub project will fade off into the background, with the feds counting on a) the USA will increase its presence here, which will be a deterrent, and b) the Chinese won’t go to war anyway.

My prediction is the Chinese will go to war within 2-5 years, making any such program moot.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 6, 2022 12:26 pm

m0ntysays:
December 6, 2022 at 11:01 am
Guccifer would beg to differ.

Guccifer 2.0 (not to be confused with the Bush-era original) is a fake identity used by Russian spooks, you idiot.

m0nty, m0nty=fa, known as 0007, has the inside info on Wussian spooks (he got it from Special Ed).

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 6, 2022 12:28 pm

Stalin, you forgot Stalin. Might as well complete the set, especially since there is a lot of Stalinism expressed among Cats these days.

ROFLMAO. m0nty=fa has given up on calling Cats fascists, and now says we are communists.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 6, 2022 12:29 pm

How important is it for the left to control twitter??

More important than research on reversing paraplegia/ getting people waking again anyway.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/05/neuralink-animal-testing-elon-musk-investigation

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 6, 2022 12:31 pm

Cassie of Sydney at 10:26 – Allan is always worth reading. Albrechtsen is typically good on legal type stuff also.

m0nty
December 6, 2022 12:31 pm

Avenatti is a crook.

So are those roomfuls of Republican lawyers who got sanctioned for Kraken lawsuits.

C.L.
C.L.
December 6, 2022 12:32 pm

This one’s for Bruce…

Check out this beauty:

https://twitter.com/fasc1nate/status/1599876802188836864

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 6, 2022 12:32 pm

now says we are communists

Tony Two-Toes: There they are. Commie bastards!

Little Mike: They’re not communists any more, Tony. They’re a federation of independent liberated states.

Tony Two-Toes: Don’t make me hurt you, Mikey.

h/t eraser
Is there anything worse than being called a communist?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 6, 2022 12:33 pm

I’m confused by the whole Russian spook thing. According to the Left some days Russia spooks are good (=anything about Trump), other days they’re bad (=anything about Ukraine). Does that mean Russian spooks are two-faced?

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 6, 2022 12:37 pm

Supporters of a jailed climate protester have launched a massive crowd-funding campaign to free her as human rights groups condemn her treatment.

Shared online a day after Deanna “Violet” Coco, 31, was jailed for a minimum of eight months on Friday, a Chuffed fundraiser has raised more than $37,000 to appeal her sentence.

“If you are seeing this campaign then I have been sentenced to prison for peaceful environmental protest,” Coco wrote.

“In light of the urgency of the situation, I feel I have to do the most effective thing in bringing about political change.

“But make no mistake – I do not want to be protesting … I wish that there was another way to address this issue with the gravitas that it deserves.”

Coco was sentenced to 15 months imprisonment on December 2 after driving a hire truck on the Sydney Harbour Bridge and blocking a lane during peak hour on April 13.

She live streamed the protest online, holding an emergency flair while standing on top of the truck before police forcefully removed the protesters 25 minutes later.

In her sentencing remarks, Magistrate Allison Hawkins said Coco let an “entire city suffer” with her actions, which were designed to gain “maximum exposure”.

“You do damage to your cause when you do childish stunts like this. Why should they be disrupted by your selfish emotional actions?” she said.

“You are not a political prisoner, you are a criminal.”

Coco’s lawyer Mark Davis had sought to convince the court the protest was designed to minimise impact by only blocking one of the Cahill Expressway’s five lanes.

He said her actions were motivated by a “most prevalent anxiety” about climate change and the belief the Australian Government isn’t doing enough

immediately after Coco was jailed, Mr Davies filed a sentence appeal and requested she be given bail until the appeal could be heard.

She was refused bail on Friday and will remain in custody pending appeals.

A District Court bail application is scheduled for December 13, while the sentence appeal will be heard in March next year.

A number of high-profile people and groups have expressed outrage over the decision.

United Nation’s Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Association and Peaceful Assembly, Clement Voule said online: “I am alarmed at #NSW court’s prison term against #ClimateProtester Deanna Coco and refusal to grant bail”.

“Peaceful protesters should never be criminalised or imprisoned,” he wrote on Twitter.

Daily Tele no comments. A different article the other day on her sentencing had hundreds of comments underneath – all celebrating!

johanna
johanna
December 6, 2022 12:37 pm

Alleged defensive vehicles that might be delivered in 20 years at who knows what price?

They’re havin’ a larf!

How about scanning the shelves of the defence equivalent of Bunnings and taking home a few items that actually work in the here and now.

Nah, not an option for the megabrains at Materiel. Would put a lot of them out of work.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 6, 2022 12:39 pm

NBN, NDIS, border security, pink batts… now basically the same mob are at it again.

Putting aside the R-G-R deadwood, the new generation don’t offer much hope. Chalmers is not a complete moron like Swan, hopefully he can make some difference.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 6, 2022 12:39 pm

No, he didn’t hack Hillary’s server. He claimed that he did to Fox News, but then later recanted to the Feds.

Smart move. Given the FBI was busy investigating and covering up Servergate and identified a security breach that happened (and was widely leaked by Guccifer/Laz?r) some three years previously.

In their official report, the FBI fessed up that they thought not, but actually had no idea if Clinton’s ad hoc server had been compromised – other than the one time in early 2013.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 6, 2022 12:43 pm

My prediction is the Chinese will go to war within 2-5 years, making any such program moot.

I wonder, which side we will be on?

Tom
Tom
December 6, 2022 12:43 pm

Actress Kirsty Alley, 71, has died after a short battle with cancer.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 6, 2022 12:43 pm

Check out this beauty

Cool, CL! In more ways than one. 😀

Bit of a birdy drought at the Cafe, the indigenes have hatched their offspring and are taking them off on apprenticeships elsewhere. Only two currawongs are appearing, and even they are being seduced by the Port Jackson figtree in my neighbour’s yard. The butcherbirds also have been mostly elsewhere.

The magpie clans though are providing fine entertainment: they line up either side of my front steps and sing curses at each other. The females puff themselves up as big as they can. The Southern clan is 2 kids, a helper from last year, and mum and dad. The Northern clan are mum, dad and a kid. So this morning I had a chorale of eight irate magpies musically slagging each other off.

Tom
Tom
December 6, 2022 12:51 pm

Mary and Joseph on the Way to Bethlehem, Hugo van der Goes, 1475

Love the art, Dover. Looks like the semi-desert around Tennant Creek in the NT.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 6, 2022 12:53 pm

Dutton’s already said he’d form a minority government with Teal support.

Can you imagine the blancmange you would get from a Lieboral Teal coalition? Would still be better than Albo’s clown show.

Kneel
Kneel
December 6, 2022 12:58 pm

“…the contents of Hillary’s emails were equally pissweak, and they managed to ratfsck an election with that.”

Interesting, innit?

They raided Trump and took everything, on the basis that he had “classified” materials, despite the fact the as President he is the ultimate authority of what is and isn’t classified and can de-classify by actions (if you have no clearance, and he hands you the doc, it is ipso facto de-classified – settled case law, BTW) and a witness prepared to testify that at least some of those docs were to be de-classified at Trump’s direction. No charges as yet on that either – the silence is yet again deafening.

They also raided on the basis the he withheld government records, despite the fact that it is the President at the time who determines what is “his” and what is a “public record” (clearly stated in the law, and DoJ previously argued so and won, with no appeal).

They raided premises that were secured to their own satisfaction (they inspected!), yet left Obama’s similar documents in place despite them being held in otherwise empty commercial space with much less security.

Hillary deleted 30k emails, destroyed mobile phones etc etc, and… <crickets> FBI says “we won’t prosecute because there was no intent”, despite intent not being a requirement to prosecute for that crime (intentional or negligent destruction of government docs).

FBI has had the original “laptop from hell” and HDD since 2019, yet are strangely silent on it – no prosecutions based on it, and no “we checked, it’s junk” statement either, nor even a “can;t comment on on-going investigation”. Why would that be, one wonders? Sure looks like it was swept under the rug.

None of which “proves” anything of course – but it is most certainly “evidence” of some sort of corruption and clearly sufficient to require investigation. Such investigation has yet to occur, and likely won’t until the statute to limitations has run out at least, if ever. Which is a bad look all on it’s own – one which the MSM will no doubt studiously ignore and “fact check” away. Seems that when Dems do something “there’s no proof!”, but when Repubs do something similar there’s “evidence”, “indications” and demands for investigations up the wazoo.

Beertruk
Beertruk
December 6, 2022 12:59 pm

This one’s for Bruce…

Check out this beauty:

Awesome C.L.
Just hope it steers clear of the enviomental visual pollution disasters of ‘white elephants surrounded by dead birds.’

johanna
johanna
December 6, 2022 1:07 pm

Dutton is a dickhead.

In more interesting news, the currawong convention went on last night until the last bit of light was gone.

Dozens of them, calling from every high point. I noticed a young one (still a bit brownish) hanging around here. It seemed a bit bewildered, kept making ‘feed me’ noises and getting nothing.

The received wisdom is that they learn their calls from these gatherings. I suspect that it might also be a dating site.

Flocks of cockies and crows also about, but not intruding into their territory.

Again, we know fuck all about birds. 🙂

Speedbox
December 6, 2022 1:09 pm

johanna says:
December 6, 2022 at 12:13 pm

A farce indeed. Several cats have also noted that they have been ostracized by friends and family and I think this is a real shame. Long friendships permanently broken, families ties fractured…..not to mention the utter disgrace of not being able to say goodbye to a loved one on their death bed. Millions were, literally, threatened with unemployment and even jail if they didn’t acquiesce. There was more of course as we know full well, but I will say that that I doubt the damage the various governments wrought on our society will ever be fully repaired.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 6, 2022 1:09 pm

Anthony Albanese says postponing energy market meeting with premiers won’t delay power price relief

Anthony Albanese says postponing this week’s national cabinet meeting with the premiers will not delay power price relief for Australians, because the proposed changes will not take effect until next February.

“National cabinet will be on Friday, but the idea that you make a decision and it has an impact immediately on prices is not right of course,” the prime minister said.

He said a new default market offer for electricity users would probably be in place in February “so what we are looking at is trying to act before Christmas, which is what we said we would do”.

Obviously, Australia is relying on Christmas as a critical date for too-cheap-to-meter electricity probably sometime in February.

Albanese was asked when he would share key details with the premiers about how the proposed intervention would work. The prime minister suggested his state and territory counterparts had those details to hand, and some of the public positioning in recent days was about maximising their own bargaining position.

“People have been given a whole lot of detail about what is proposed. People have also been given the legal advice, and bureaucrats have been working this through for weeks, and I’ve had discussions with the premiers over the weekend and again [on Monday] and last week.”

“These things are being worked through constructively and I will continue to work this through with them in constructive fashion”.

Luckily lawyers and bureaucrats have been working on all this detail with Constructive Albo – although not so much detail yet for the coal and gas producers, or those electricity generators who are locked into supply contracts.

However, we can all take comfort from the historical fact that centrally planned industry has never been a clusterfcuk.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 1:18 pm

My prediction is the Chinese will go to war within 2-5 years, making any such program moot.

china is busy organising over land routes for food, fuel and resources. They know the maritime routes will be blocked. Its pretty clear that war is coming, its been clear for a long time, just nobody wants to accept the facts. just as nobody wanted to accept that nazis were militarising with intent go to war. we should send as many woke to fight as possible

Zipster
December 6, 2022 1:18 pm

Full Episode: Dr. Peter McCullough: COVID Treatments | PART 1
“There’s been no monthly review of new therapies. There’s been no monthly review of data safety and efficacy for the vaccines. Nothing. Americans for two years have been stonewalled on any scientific information on COVID-19.”

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 1:29 pm

The banker saw his old friend Tom, an 80-year-old rancher, in town. Tom had lost his wife a year or so before and rumour had it that he was marrying a mail order bride.

Being a good friend, the banker asked Tom if the rumour was true. Tom assured him that it was. The banker then asked Tom the age of his new bride to be.

Tom proudly said “She’ll be twenty-one in November”.

Now the banker, being the wise man that he was, could see that the sexual appetite of a young woman could not be satisfied by an 80-year-old man. Wanting his old friend’s remaining years to be happy the banker tactfully suggested that Tom should consider getting a hired hand to help him out on the ranch, knowing nature would take its own course.

Tom thought this was a good idea and said he would look for one that afternoon.

About four months later, the banker ran into Tom in town again.

“How’s the new wife?” asked the banker. Tom proudly said “Good – she’s pregnant!”

The banker, happy that his sage advice had worked out, continued “And how’s the hired hand?”

Without hesitating, Tom said “She’s pregnant too”.

Don’t ever underestimate old blokes!

Zipster
December 6, 2022 1:30 pm

people are starting to notice the C40 neo-marxist lunacy which nobody voted on

Terrifying glimpse of the future?

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 1:30 pm

Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it.

– Confucius

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 6, 2022 1:32 pm

Too cheap to meter is on the way…

Collapse of contractor puts more question marks over giant Snowy 2.0 project

The giant Snowy 2.0 pumped hydro project – already steeped in controversy and facing significant cost overruns and delays – is facing further question marks over its future after the collapse of the one of its main contractors.

Clough Engineering has been placed in administration after its partner in the Snowy 2.0 contract, the Italian based We Build, pulled out of the deal to buy the company and inject some much needed cash.

The two companies announced the proposed purchase in November after Clough’s owners, the South Africa-based Murray & Roberts, had warned of delays, cost over-runs and the lack of a working capital facility threatened to impede its operations.

“It’s ludicrous,” the company’s chief financial officer said in September of the lack of a working capital facility, which would help bridge the gap between payments for supplies, and from its client, the federal government owned Snowy Hydro.

The deal with We Build involved an interim injection of $30 million in cash to enable Clough to continue operations, and the purchase of the company for a peppercorn sum of $500,000 and the forgiveness of a $350 million intracompany loan.

But after a close look at the books, We Build pulled out. “There is no reasonable prospect of that acquisition proceeding through to a successful completion,” it said in a statement.

“The parties have therefore unconditionally agreed to terminate the sale and purchase agreement with immediate effect.”

Murray & Roberts said late Monday it had no choice but to place Clough into administration given its urgent working capital needs.

A Deloitte Australia corporate rescue team comprising Sal Algeri, Jason Tracy, Glen Kanevsky and David Orr have been appointed administrators and will pursue options for sale, restructure or recapitalisation.

It is not immediately clear how this will impact the Snowy 2.0 project, which is running over its already inflated budget of $5 billion, and facing delays of up to 18 months – all due to a combined impact of Covid19 delays, cost rises and supply chain impacts.

Murray & Roberts warned in late October that it faced being put into voluntary administration itself because it has no ability to repay the inter-company loan, inherited from the buyout of Clough minority shareholders in 2013.

It also revealed at the time that Clough was facing deeper losses because “of a deterioration of estimated project margins.”

The Snowy 2.0 has been widely criticised for being a “vanity” project and over its economic and environment credentials, and its impact on the energy market. It has caused many smaller projects not to be built, and further delays could cause problems as the exit of coal continues apace.

Federal energy minister Chris Bowen in June announced that the project was running up to 18 months behind schedule, amid reports that it could be up to $2 billion over budget due to delays, logistics problems and supply constraints and costs.

Snowy Hydro in November finally confirmed that the budget for the Snowy 2.0 project had blown out to just under $6 billion and is running around 12 months behind schedule. Snowy executives still pocketed millions in bonuses, including for meeting cost and performance targets on the controversial project.

Kneel
Kneel
December 6, 2022 1:33 pm

“Go ahead and explain how you would go about devising a study with the precision required.”

An observational study, based on the various mask mandates and so on. Given sufficient sample size, this gives the overall “advantage”. It’s not perfect, but is “real world”. IIRC, such studies as have been done using this methodology show an insignificant advantage to masking for respiratory virus’ – at best it is “barely out of the noise” and not worth the other significant disadvantages (social, educational etc) that wearing a mask imposes.
Lockdowns are similar.
For airborne ebola with a 50% fatality rate, it might have been worth it, but for COVID with even the initial 3% fatality rate, neither masking nor lockdowns are worth the costs.

But we already knew that – the plan we had for a pandemic made those exact points. The same plan we spend millions and years on developing based on medical evidence, medical opinion, social and financial cost analysis, political acceptability and so on, and then tossed into the bin as soon as COVID arrived. The same plan that said it was better to calm people down rather than rev them up about the dangers – also something we studiously ignored and did the opposite.
I’m not sure how much more badly wrong we could have gotten the whole debacle, even based on the little we knew at the time.

This is what happens when “feelz” are more important than facts, when sound bites rule the news cycle, and where politicians and public servants are more concerned with their privileges than their duties.

bespoke
bespoke
December 6, 2022 1:33 pm

My prediction is the Chinese will go to war within 2-5 years, making any such program moot.

Join the queue that’s been predicting that for last fifteen years or more.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 6, 2022 1:33 pm

Is hat the stench of Maocolm or sulphur?

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 6, 2022 1:34 pm

*that

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 1:37 pm

Luckily lawyers and bureaucrats have been working on all this detail with Constructive Albo – although not so much detail yet for the coal and gas producers, or those electricity generators who are locked into supply contracts.

However, we can all take comfort from the historical fact that centrally planned industry has never been a clusterfcuk.

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Didn’t The Federal Bugit show that power prices would be growing and growing and inflation would be back to normal by the time of the next Election. Who can believe these projections? Certainly not me and millions and millions others………………….

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 6, 2022 1:39 pm

‘Zat mean Snowy 2.0 has been demoted to Snowy 0.0?

Golly, this storage of too-cheap-to-meter electricity seems rather expensive.

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 1:42 pm

A woman is at home when she hears someone knock at the door. She goes to the door and opens the door to see a total stranger standing there.

He asks the lady “Do you have a vagina?” She slams the door in disgust.

The next morning, she hears a knock at the door and it is the same man and he asks the same question of the woman “Do you have a vagina?” She slams the door again.

Later that night when her husband gets home, she tells him what has happened for the last two days. The husband tells the wife in a loving and concerned voice “Honey, I am taking tomorrow off, to be home, just in case this guy shows up again”.

The next morning, they hear a knock and both run for the door. The husband says to the wife in a whispered voice “Honey, I’m going to hide behind the door and listen and if it is the same guy, I want you to answer yes, to the question, because I want to see where the bastard is going, with it”.

She nods yes to her husband and opens the door. Sure enough, the same fellow is standing there and asks the same question; “Do you have a vagina?”

“Yes, actually I have”. She says. The man replies. “Good! Would you mind telling your husband to leave my wife’s alone and start using yours?”

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 6, 2022 1:43 pm

20C here in Western Vic and I appear to be in my 10 day period where the paddocks are between ‘too wet to drive on’ and ‘ too hard to drill post holes’.

Having said that .. I did manage to bog the tractor near the dam yesterday – not badly, walked it out with the bucket.

Also, I need just 4mm more to crack 700mm for the year (average is 480). Whats the bet the gods conspire to deny me that?

M y neighbour says it hasn’t been this wet since the 1970s.

JC
JC
December 6, 2022 1:47 pm

JC you keep talking about a problem about precision where there is none. All we need to know is how effective masks are in a particular use case. Talking about people needing to be in the ‘exact position not allowing them to move, ensuring they inhale and exhale with equal force’ is ridiculous and pointless as these conditions never obtain in this or that use case so it’s pointless applying this to the test when it’s not available in practice.

I’ve asked you several times. Show how you would conduct a test to determine reliable efficacy.

Same is true in pharma trials.

It most certainly isn’t.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 6, 2022 1:47 pm

Millions were, literally, threatened with unemployment and even jail if they didn’t acquiesce.

FACTCHECK: TRUE

Zipster
December 6, 2022 1:48 pm

why dont you just lock up all straight normal white males, you know you want to…

Stealthing to be treated as rape in Qld
removing a condom without consent, or stealthing, will be treated as rape as part of the Queensland government’s overhaul of sexual violence legislation.

universal suffrage the catastrophe that keeps on giving

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 6, 2022 1:48 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
December 6, 2022 1:49 pm

Putin made a huge tactical mistake in not invading Ukraine during the previous administration. Trump would have waved him through, the ethnic cleansing would have been unchallenged, and Putin would have watermelon for dinner every night. That is a counterfactual that historians will puzzle over for decades.

In your dreams m0nty=fa, you are denying the reality of the Trump years.

As it is, Biden has committed a very small percentage of the US military budget and has decimated Russia’s stocks. The ROI on this war for America is astonishingly good.

Another leftard gagging for war, death and destruction.

Fair Shake
December 6, 2022 1:50 pm

I did manage to bog the tractor near the dam yesterday – not badly, walked it out with the bucket.
I had to think twice how you walked it out.

cohenite
December 6, 2022 1:51 pm

Luckily, Biden was running against Trump who is a walking ethics violation

Dickless has skulked back with no examples of Trump demanding censorship as the little shit asserted yesterday. Typical troll behaviour: lie, get called out; go away and then skulk back.

Fair Shake
December 6, 2022 2:02 pm

I see that She who must be Neighed from NZ is down in the popularity stakes. Remember her halcyon days when she was happy to dis Barnabys residency or Scomos lack of climactia.

She needs a great big national disaster to take center stage once more. NZ recession anyone?

bespoke
bespoke
December 6, 2022 2:06 pm

Department of Education disbands national parents council after parental rights groups sued

One thing the pandemic did, though, was to open the eyes of parents about what goes on in schools. Online learning showed the lesson plans and what was being taught in the classroom and parents didn’t like it.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 2:13 pm

She needs a great big national disaster to take center stage once more. NZ recession anyone?

looking at the money supply, they goosed the daylights out of it in 2020 and now its in reverse, so a recession is baked in. Economic whiplash is a form of government terrorism

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
December 6, 2022 2:16 pm

My prediction is the Chinese will go to war within 2-5 years, making any such program moot.

Join the queue that’s been predicting that for last fifteen years or more.

China has to spend much of its time keeping its own population in control. Part of that control is that if the citizens have an uprising the PLA is called in to stomp it.

If they take away a million or so PLA to invade Taiwan or other nations it hasn’t got the manpower to tackle uprisings in China. I doubt if push comes to shove it would do it due to this reason.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 2:16 pm

Pentagon: US Faces Critical Time in Countering China; China’s Anti-Lockdown Protest Reaches Wuhan

00:59 Pentagon: U.S. Faces Critical Time in Countering China
03:27 China’s Anti-Lockdown Protest Reaches Wuhan
04:37 Beijing, Shenzhen Loosen More COVID-19 Curbs
06:29 Leaked Notice: China Using Highest-Level Censorship Following Widespread Protests
08:03 Protests Against CCP Continue Across the World
10:49 China’s Xi ‘Unwilling’ to Accept Western COVID-19 Vax?
11:43 Zero COVID-19: Chinese Cities Falling Short on Cash
12:35 U.S. Designates China Country of Particular Concern
13:50 London Council Rejects Chinese ‘Super Embassy’

Zipster
December 6, 2022 2:19 pm

If they take away a million or so PLA to invade Taiwan or other nations it hasn’t got the manpower to tackle uprisings in China. I doubt if push comes to shove it would do it due to this reason.

I disagree, going to war will rally the population behind the effort. In fact its the ultimate distraction squirrel.

shatterzzz
December 6, 2022 2:19 pm

Clough Engineering has been placed in administration

Might have this wrong but I’m sure this mob spent $millions re-locating their head office late last year .. seems weird for an outfit that has no money several months later ……..

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 6, 2022 2:22 pm

If they take away a million or so PLA to invade Taiwan or other nations it hasn’t got the manpower to tackle uprisings in China. I doubt if push comes to shove it would do it due to this reason.

Going to war is the ideal way to tackle domestic unrest – history is replete with examples, the Falklands War for one.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
December 6, 2022 2:25 pm

Going to war is the ideal way to tackle domestic unrest – history is replete with examples, the Falklands War for one.

The Falklands is not a good analogy. Argentina invaded the Falklands. This allowed Thatcher to get the commons and the UK public to support the war effort. It’s different if you invade another nation.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
December 6, 2022 2:28 pm

I disagree, going to war will rally the population behind the effort. In fact its the ultimate distraction squirrel.

It may but it is a huge risk to take.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
December 6, 2022 2:29 pm

She needs a great big national disaster to take center stage once more. NZ recession anyone?

Looking at her pictures she needs 3 or 4 Big Macs.

bespoke
bespoke
December 6, 2022 2:32 pm

Going to war is the ideal way to tackle domestic unrest – history is replete with examples, the Falklands War for one.

In the case of Taiwan, mainland citizens will see there their own kind being brutally occupied. Support will be fleeting.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 2:32 pm

Ukraine STRIKES DEEP into Russia, knocks out Bombers on the Ground | Moscow within Range?

“ukraine” attacking nuclear bombers. this benefits no one but the west and is a severe escalation. they are playing nuclear roulette now

will
will
December 6, 2022 2:37 pm

shatterzzzsays:
December 6, 2022 at 2:19 pm
Clough Engineering has been placed in administration

Might have this wrong but I’m sure this mob spent $millions re-locating their head office late last year .. seems weird for an outfit that has no money several months later ……..

most likely based on a business case of spend $x now and save $y later, adjusted for the time value of money. Every company is one payday away from insolvency, especially if you rely on project work.

duncanm
duncanm
December 6, 2022 2:46 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
December 6, 2022 at 12:43 pm
Check out this beauty

Cool, CL! In more ways than one. ?

speaking of birds

Gilas
Gilas
December 6, 2022 2:50 pm

Zipster says:
December 6, 2022 at 1:18 pm

My prediction is the Chinese will go to war within 2-5 years, making any such program moot.

china is busy organising over land routes for food, fuel and resources. They know the maritime routes will be blocked. Its pretty clear that war is coming, its been clear for a long time

Seriously??
A country with a well-established, abysmal war record.. would risk their territory, economy etc.. while their enemies are self destructing brilliantly and unaided.
The chunks couldn’t even defeat the Vietnamese, who were still recovering from 20 years of Indo-China warring.

Putting it simply, in the language of probability: as time goes to infinity, the probability of anything happening may approach 1.
So, yes, China may well go to war.. sometimes after humans have evolved into unicorns with threaded raffia hooves.

dopey
dopey
December 6, 2022 2:54 pm

8 ticks for that pathetic joke about a v…… What is wrong with people?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 6, 2022 2:58 pm

This might be the worst hot take tweet of the year, nay decade.

https://twitter.com/cliftonaduncan/status/1597915907061592070

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 6, 2022 3:11 pm

Only just noticed in my YouTube feed but Tucker Carlson had a 1 hour interview with UK cardiologist Aseem Malhotra. Covers all the angles from big pharma power, pharma finding regulators, vested interests, vaccine harm etc. One of best interviews listened too in past 3 years.

However the number who have watched the clip not that high.

m0nty
December 6, 2022 3:17 pm

Ukraine STRIKES DEEP into Russia, knocks out Bombers on the Ground | Moscow within Range?

That can’t be right, CL has been crowing about how Ukraine has run out of soldiers after they all died.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 6, 2022 3:38 pm

the defence equivalent of Bunnings

Dunno what the exact equivalent would be, but here’s a kind of defense equivalent of the Sears catalog.
https://www.airforce-technology.com/contractors/

Don’t miss their Buyer’s Guide to ground-based air defense systems!
https://www.airforce-technology.com/buyers-guide/ground-based-air-defence-systems/

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 6, 2022 3:42 pm

m0ntysays:
December 6, 2022 at 3:17 pm
Ukraine STRIKES DEEP into Russia, knocks out Bombers on the Ground | Moscow within Range?

That can’t be right, CL has been crowing about how Ukraine has run out of soldiers after they all died.

Facile, m0nty=fa, try harder.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 6, 2022 3:50 pm

speaking of birds

Instagram won’t let me see without a login.
I hope they’re nothing like Cohenite’s owls.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 6, 2022 3:51 pm

Department of Education disbands national parents council after parental rights groups sued

One thing the pandemic did, though, was to open the eyes of parents about what goes on in schools. Online learning showed the lesson plans and what was being taught in the classroom and parents didn’t like it.

Parents be like…

Kneel
Kneel
December 6, 2022 3:58 pm

“Putin made a huge tactical mistake in not invading Ukraine during the previous administration. Trump would have waved him through,…”

Ha ha!
IIRC, the story is that Trump said “If you invade Ukraine, I’ll bomb Moscow”. Putin did a double take, then said “You wouldn’t dare!”, to which Trump replied “Try me.”

No saying it’s true, but that’s the story, and allegedly why Putin waited for Sleepy Joe to be Prez.
IIRC, Trump said it did happen, but refused to say if he would have actually gone through with the threat – probably not, IMO.

And you have to admit, Trump was so notoriously unpredictable that such a threat would give anyone pause, and could easily have made Putin more than a little worried about consequences.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 6, 2022 4:02 pm

I think this is optimistic.
The last stealth bomber, I think they built less than half originally planned.
You can imagine what that did to the unit cost.

New B-21 Bomber Will Cost $20 Billion Through 2027

The Air Force has opted to classify how many B-21s it plans to buy for the requested amount. However, at the outset of the program, the cost of the bomber was capped at $550 million each in base year 2010 dollars, or $729.25 million in current dollars. That figure was intended to be an average unit cost over a production run of about 100 airplanes, and early examples of a new military aircraft always cost the most, when the learning curve is highest and the most tweaks tend to be made to the design.

Old bloke
Old bloke
December 6, 2022 4:05 pm

As it is, Biden has committed a very small percentage of the US military budget and has decimated Russia’s stocks. The ROI on this war for America is astonishingly good.

This is partly true, America has benefited from making Europe completely dependant on American LNG exports, and America will benefit as European manufacturers will be forced to move to the USA to stay in business.

It’s had no economic impact on Russia though, Europe is the loser in this war.

Macron complains about American LNG costing six times the price in the USA

Gabor
Gabor
December 6, 2022 4:09 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
December 6, 2022 at 3:50 pm

speaking of birds

Instagram won’t let me see without a login.
I hope they’re nothing like Cohenite’s owls.

Same here.
Why do they make it difficult to access?
Similar to that link to an alternate Cat site, can’t even remember now what it was, it was quite a rig moral to join, then to access, needed a dozen tries and referrals as I recall.

cohenite
December 6, 2022 4:15 pm

Don’t know why this is funny: big guy mingles with, mainly crowds of young girls, and activates loud, wet fart device. The reactions of the girls are reassuring; none go Karen, most have a laugh and a few give it back to the big guy in a funny way:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=540711236938302

Robert Sewell
December 6, 2022 4:18 pm

Rabz:

Beyond ridiculous. In the interminable interim we’ll remain completely dependent on the US, which is not an appetising proposition.

I would not blame the US for telling us to piss off and get our shit together. It’s time they suspended all their treaties until that happened.
While we sit on our arses, the Green Labor Liberal government just keeps blowing money on economy wrecking social welfare programs.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 6, 2022 4:24 pm

In the case of Taiwan, mainland citizens will see there their own kind being brutally occupied. Support will be fleeting

If our cuddly western ‘democracies’ could turn neighbour against neighbour with a few months of fear porn on the MSM, don’t underestimate what nearly 100 years of a totalitarian state telling its citizens that ‘Taiwan has always been part of China’ will do.

The West is done, it no longer has the military, economic or societal strength to take serious casualties in a real shooting war against a near peer enemy.

China knows this, all it has to do is blockade Taiwan and wait. An invasion is not necessary. But to attempt to prevent it, the US would have to project power, for a long time, thousands of miles from home, and take serious losses in the process (think – the sinking of multiple carriers). They haven’t faced that since WW2 and dont have the national resolve anymore.

Robert Sewell
December 6, 2022 4:30 pm

Zipster:

its not just germans, the woke neo-marxists are frog marching us into a dystopian Logan’s Run Totalitarian type of future.

It appears the entire Western mind set has finally succumbed to the concept of “No consequences for stupid decisions.”
Great.

Lysander
Lysander
December 6, 2022 4:34 pm

Putin takes his lead from Japan 😛

The Russian president on Monday signed into law updated legislation which expands the current ban on the prohibition of what it dubs LGBT propaganda to children, shrugging off widespread Western human rights criticisms leveled at Moscow.

The new law now expands to banning anything that promotes LGBT propaganda before the entire population, regardless of age or demographic, which makes it much more sweeping and broad.

The law also aggressively targets transgender ideology. At this point, anything interpreted as advancing or displaying information that “can make minors want to change their gender” is banned, according to the new law. This includes promoting “non-traditional sexual relations”.

Violation of the law, for example with media campaigns or formal organizing and activism, could see entities face a fine of up to 4 million rubles (or just under $64,000). Time in jail is also possible as a punishment. It further effectively bans all future attempts at ‘pride’ parades.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
December 6, 2022 4:36 pm

Are there any eligible (non bastards) contenders from the Plantagenet, Tudor or Stuart lines to take over the current throne?

I’m getting sick of the woke Windsors.

Lysander
Lysander
December 6, 2022 4:38 pm

Lawyer known for representing Stormy Daniels also ordered to pay $7m on top of time he is already serving

Former Presidential wannabe… The incarcerated lawyer Michael Avenatti was sentenced in southern California on Monday to 14 years in prison and ordered to pay $7m in restitution after admitting he cheated four of his clients out of millions of dollars.

Kleptocrapts will klepto.

Lysander
Lysander
December 6, 2022 4:39 pm

Are there any eligible (non bastards) contenders from the Plantagenet, Tudor or Stuart lines to take over the current throne?

I’ve spent a fair bit of time in Plantagenet Shire (if that counts? :P)

Anchor What
Anchor What
December 6, 2022 4:39 pm

“Nothing Green Ever Works”
Tim Blair.

The hugely misguided Snowy 2.0 project, kicked along by the (potentially great) Mal, has suffered a sort of myocardial infarction as main contractor Clough goes belly up.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
December 6, 2022 4:40 pm

China may have already missed its opportunity to engage in any conflict that requires recruitment outside of the existing armed forces capability. Given they will be fighting with a cohort exclusively of sole children families, what family is going to encourage their children to go to war? It’s not like war service is somehow going to make the large incel population in china somehow more eligible for the minority eligible female population.

m0nty
December 6, 2022 4:42 pm

IIRC, the story is that Trump said “If you invade Ukraine, I’ll bomb Moscow”. Putin did a double take, then said “You wouldn’t dare!”, to which Trump replied “Try me.”

And then Putin got down on his knees with tears in his eyes and called him Sir, sure.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 4:45 pm

Why do they make it difficult to access?

because you are the product

mem
mem
December 6, 2022 4:45 pm

zyconoclastsays:
December 6, 2022 at 1:32 pm
Too cheap to meter is on the way…

Collapse of contractor puts more question marks over giant Snowy 2.0 project

The giant Snowy 2.0 pumped hydro project – already steeped in controversy and facing significant cost overruns and delays – is facing further question marks over its future after the collapse of the one of its main contractors.

Malcom has a way with money. It disappears. The ultimate financial magician. Where it goes no body knows ,but somehow he and his cronies get richer while those around wear the consequences.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 4:48 pm

China may have already missed its opportunity to engage in any conflict that requires recruitment outside of the existing armed forces capability. Given they will be fighting with a cohort exclusively of sole children families, what family is going to encourage their children to go to war?

conscription

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 6, 2022 4:48 pm

m0ntysays:
December 6, 2022 at 4:42 pm
IIRC, the story is that Trump said “If you invade Ukraine, I’ll bomb Moscow”. Putin did a double take, then said “You wouldn’t dare!”, to which Trump replied “Try me.”

And then Putin got down on his knees with tears in his eyes and called him Sir, sure.

But Putin did NOT invade Ukraine while Trump was president. He DID, however, act against Ukraine while Obummer was president, and again after Creepy Joe took the chair.

Reality really sucks for leftards, doesn’t it?

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 6, 2022 4:52 pm

Michael Trumble was Howard’s big eff you to Australia. I’ll never forgive him for that.

m0nty
December 6, 2022 5:05 pm

Dickless has skulked back with no examples of Trump demanding censorship as the little shit asserted yesterday. Typical troll behaviour: lie, get called out; go away and then skulk back.

Taibbi already posted as part of the Twitter Files that the Trump campaign requested and received takedowns of individual posts. He didn’t give examples.

Your typical troll behaviour is to get smashed time and again on your simple mistakes of logic and fact, and come back for more hoping that no one remembers.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 6, 2022 5:10 pm

Michael Trumble was Howard’s big eff you to Australia.

There were a few.

Lysander
Lysander
December 6, 2022 5:10 pm

The Munt today:

Your typical troll behaviour is to get smashed time and again on your simple mistakes of logic and fact, and come back for more hoping that no one remembers.

The Munt three months ago:

Trump appointed Judge Reinhart

Never let standards get in the way of a born liar.

Roger
Roger
December 6, 2022 5:12 pm

Well, well…Apple is reportedly expediting plans to shift production from China.

The company is facing a shortfall of product before Christmas due to factory closures.

sfw
sfw
December 6, 2022 5:15 pm

I doubt that China will invade anywhere, it’s been rather unsuccessful at that sort of thing for at least the last 800 years. If it wants Taiwan someone said it will blockade it, sounds realistic.

China is a massive threat to the world but if given the chance it would rather buy and bribe its way to dominance, and that’s exactly what it’s doing. I wonder how many of our elites and institutions are taking money from them.

2dogs
2dogs
December 6, 2022 5:20 pm

Your typical troll behaviour is to get smashed time and again on your simple mistakes of logic and fact, and come back for more hoping that no one remembers.

Monty’s self-description.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 6, 2022 5:21 pm

Wow, I hadnt realised just how much of a shithead Noel Pearson was.

Caught the last 5 minutes of their ABCcess with noel giving his ending Boyer lecture, complete with soothing background music.
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/boyerlectures/we-the-australian-people/14110798

He does the by now mandatory “if you dont support the Voice you are literally Hitler” bit, couched in uni-speak.

Then he cracks onto Gobbels and the big lie and how the IPA is the same as Gobbels because its telling 2 “big lies”

the 1st, and Im not making this up, that the constitutional amendment isnt dividing people on race because it doesnt mention Aboriginals, but indigenous Australians.

From the transcript…

There are two lies we will have to be vigilant about in the forthcoming campaign. They are egregious lies because they rely upon a Trumpian obscurantism to be sustained. It is like the birtherism lie raised against President Obama – that contrary to all the evidence Obama was born in Kenya and not in Hawaii and therefore ineligible for presidential office. Or like the election lie of 2020 – that President Biden had stolen the election from his predecessor.

The strategy of relying upon a big lie is learned from the anti-democratic precedents of Germany in the 1930s. The psychoanalyst Walter Langer wrote in a wartime report for the US government that the German leaders’

primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; … people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

And so the Institute of Public Affairs has prosecuted its campaign against the recognition of Indigenous Australians on the bases of two Big Lies.

The first is the lie that a First Nations Voice would constitute separate treatment on the basis of race in the constitution. This argument succeeds only if you ignore the truth that our claim is on the basis of our being indigenous to this country, not on the basis of race. Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders are indigenous peoples, they are not a separate race. Our race is human, the same as all other Australians.

The second lie is that recognition would breach the principle of equality. The IPA cloaks its argument under a commitment to liberal democracy, blithely ignoring that liberal democracies worldwide – not the least its leading exemplar; the United States of America – recognise the native peoples as indigenous under their constitutional law. They never mention the accommodations reached in other liberal democracies in northern Europe and around the world.

Surely, the starting place for a convocation dedicated to a grand philosophical tradition such as the liberalism of Adam Smith and John Locke, might first be honesty? How can there be any credibility to philosophy if at first there is no commitment to honesty in public discourse, and instead the peddling of Big Lies? The IPA’s sheer dishonesty would shame Smith and Locke and the great founders of the liberal tradition if they knew what was being prosecuted in their names.

What a dishonest grifting turd.

Im sure the ABCcess will be putting next week to allow for the opposing case to be put forward, as no money is to be spent funding either side of the campaign…

wivenhoe
wivenhoe
December 6, 2022 5:21 pm

Are there any eligible (non bastards) contenders from the Plantagenet, Tudor or Stuart lines to take over the current throne?

Yeah, me from the Plantagenet line, but the last thing I want to do is go anywhere near the throne. That is why I reside in Australia.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 6, 2022 5:21 pm

China is a massive threat to the world but if given the chance it would rather buy and bribe its way to dominance

Indeed. A nation of shopkeepers – not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Then again, that’s what Napoleon said of Britain, until eventually he met his Waterloo.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 6, 2022 5:22 pm

Your typical troll behaviour is to get smashed time and again on your simple mistakes of logic and fact, and come back for more hoping that no one remembers.

m0nty=fa

Mirror, mirror on the wall …

You see in others what everyone sees in you.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 5:25 pm

The Russian president on Monday signed into law updated legislation which expands the current ban on the prohibition of what it dubs LGBT propaganda to children, shrugging off widespread Western human rights criticisms leveled at Moscow.

The new law now expands to banning anything that promotes LGBT propaganda before the entire population, regardless of age or demographic, which makes it much more sweeping and broad.

The law also aggressively targets transgender ideology. At this point, anything interpreted as advancing or displaying information that “can make minors want to change their gender” is banned, according to the new law. This includes promoting “non-traditional sexual relations”.

the biden freak zoo will be apoplectic

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 6, 2022 5:27 pm

When is the capped electricity meeting happening?
Will I be able to afford to cook the Christmas dinner or I am eating raw?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 6, 2022 5:27 pm

This argument succeeds only if you ignore the truth that our claim is on the basis of our being indigenous to this country, not on the basis of race.

It seems that Nol Pearson wants everyone born here to be part of the inVoice.

News at Seven, Noel. We already have an indigenous voice, it’s called Parliament.

Still, should the amendment get up, I’m happy to vote for membership of the inVoice.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 6, 2022 5:30 pm

liberal democracies worldwide – not the least its leading exemplar; the United States of America – recognise the native peoples as indigenous under their constitutional law.

Perhaps Noel P can point us to the clauses in the British Constitution, giving recognition to the Celts, the Picts, the Angles and the Saxons (inter alia).

calli
calli
December 6, 2022 5:31 pm

I’m from the Plant A Geranium line.

Robert Sewell
December 6, 2022 5:35 pm

The Frolicking Moll:

ooooh the whining grifter who is paid money to operate a grifting “charity” culture.

Perhaps it’s time to send the auditors through the ‘charity’.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 6, 2022 5:37 pm

Well, well…Apple is reportedly expediting plans to shift production from China.

It’s been fun watching Tim Cook look like a caged animal. He’s backed off the threat to boot Twitter from the Apple store, and has resumed advertising with them. That says the blowback has been exquisitely painful. Especially after being caught censoring only the Chinese protestors.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 6, 2022 5:37 pm

This is the book writers bio….
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/06/after-watching-how-brittany-higgins-has-suffered-how-many-women-will-be-silenced
Jennifer Robinson is a barrister and co-author of How Many More Women? Exposing how the law silences women. A new edition of the book will soon be released, in unredacted form, now the Lehrmann prosecution has been abandoned

This is a statement in her article…
The fact that the prosecution has not been pursued and Lehrmann has not been convicted does not mean that Brittany lied.

Hmm, I think the lady would like a 1st class hanging followed by a trial..
Lehrmann pleaded not guilty to one count of sexual intercourse without consent and maintains his innocence, denying any sexual activity occurred at all.

The decision to prosecute Lehrmann meant our contempt laws – designed to protect his important right to be presumed innocent – kicked in.

It meant Brittany had to remain silent. And the media was warned to be silent too. It also meant we redacted everything about her story from our book.

In October, Brittany endured a 12-day trial.

After the jury was discharged, meaning there would have to be a retrial, a clearly anguished Brittany walked out and gave an impassioned speech outside court, broadcast live. She spoke about her experience of the justice system and the indignity of the gruelling cross-examination she had faced while the accused was able to exercise his right to silence. She spoke of the odds being stacked against sexual assault complainants and sent her message out to them: “I believe you. You were with me every day I walked into that court and faced him.”

Soon after Brittany’s speech that day, it was announced that Lehrmann’s lawyers had referred her comments to the police and the court for contempt, showing how women cannot speak freely about their experience or the failures of the criminal justice system. It also gave rise to the ironic possibility that a woman who has made a rape allegation could face a criminal conviction for speaking about it, while the man she accused might not face trial.

Dot
Dot
December 6, 2022 5:39 pm

How about scanning the shelves of the defence equivalent of Bunnings and taking home a few items that actually work in the here and now.

Heresy!

Dot
Dot
December 6, 2022 5:40 pm

It also gave rise to the ironic possibility that a woman who has made a rape allegation could face a criminal conviction for speaking about it, while the man she accused might not face trial.

One would assume even a barrister knows what perjury is, or am I being too generous?

Dot
Dot
December 6, 2022 5:42 pm

Dear Zippy

No man with a scintilla of sanity would “stealth” a woman, in fact it is more likely he will lie about not having had a vasectomy.

Also “Ukraine”?

If they’re not a country, why did Putin sign treaties with them?

Please don’t go in the “Khazaria” black hole.

Dot
Dot
December 6, 2022 5:44 pm

I’m fighting Nayzees.

A one two punch no Nazi bar Ernst Rohm could resist.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/su47sv/mommy_milkers_can_save_us/

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 6, 2022 5:45 pm

callisays:
December 6, 2022 at 5:31 pm
I’m from the Plant A Geranium line.

I thought more a Pelargonium myself

m0nty
December 6, 2022 5:46 pm

My mistakes of fact are so infrequent as to be memorable. If I kept a list of all of you lot and your mistakes of fact in arguments with me, it would be interminable.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 6, 2022 5:49 pm

I wonder how many of our elites and institutions are taking money from them.

The whole lot, though some may not know it.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 6, 2022 5:50 pm

One would assume even a barrister knows what perjury is, or am I being too generous?

She never had a chance of being normal…
And ANUs alumni..
During her studies at Oxford, she began working with renowned Australian human rights barrister Geoffrey Robertson QC, providing advice to international organisations and governments.

Assange is rooted as well as shes representing him.
https://www.anu.edu.au/alumni/our-alumni/spotlight/jennifer-robinson

Lysander
Lysander
December 6, 2022 5:52 pm

Munt, off the top of my head and no list kept on your wrongology:

-russia russia russia
-smollett
-blm
-insurrection
-covington
-higgins
-porter
-pell
-laming

that took me 3 seconds. imagine if I had time…

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 6, 2022 5:54 pm

I’m sure at some point in the not too distant past Monty would have extolled the virtues of Avenatti.

Robert Sewell
December 6, 2022 5:54 pm

Zipster:

Why doesn’t ASIO want to investigate the origins of Covid 28.11.22
Senator Gerard Rennick

I’ve been watching the videos by Rennick et al, and there’s one thing that stands out like dogs balls. No one wants to actually do their bloody job. Always excuses about ‘not our function’, or ‘I don’t think it would be a fit for our organisation’.
How about we start cutting the bloody funding down until they work out what their damn job is?
I’m so over these lazy frigging parasites who wouldn’t know what a decent days work even looks like.
But no, they’ll keep scoffing down the money and resources until the country goes tits up.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 5:56 pm
calli
calli
December 6, 2022 5:56 pm

Exposing how the law silences women

Does it! Terrific.

I’ve been pressing the “Mute” button. Didn’t notice the one marked “Law”.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 6, 2022 5:57 pm

No Joke, Climate Change Professionals Now Provide Goals and Individual Allowances for Transportation, Food, and Clothing

December 5, 2022 | Sundance

For many years the carbon allowances for individuals were esoteric goals as presented by those who assemble at various global COP meetings, Davos and the World Economic Forum. However, with rapid advances in the energy control process, a result of the pandemic and Build Back Better exit, the control officers are now quantifying the specifics for the individual citizen. [pdf Here]

In short, we are now getting down to the brass tacks. Your resource allocation is part of the “consumption intervention” consideration, where the amount of carbon emission your consumption drives is what determines the goal for your future allocation.

As you can see above, the goal is to remove meat and dairy products completely.

In the next chart, you can see your allocation for “net clothing and textiles“:

You will be permitted 3 new clothing items each year.

– In the Transporation sector, the ambitious goal is to remove all private vehicles, and the target lifetime of vehicles is 50 years.

– For airline travel, citizens will be permitted one flight less than 1,500km (930 miles) every three years.

ARUP – The Future of Urban Consumption in a 1.5°C World – 68 Page PDF

New ways of measuring cities’ climate footprints show that C40 cities consumption-based emissions contribute to 10% of global greenhouse gases.

This report explores how cities consumption-based emissions need to reduce to avoid a climate breakdown and focuses on six sectors – food, construction, clothing, vehicles, aviation and electronics – where leaders, businesses and the public can take action to change consumption habits, significantly cutting greenhouse gas emissions.

The research sets out science-based targets for cities for GHG emissions reduction that are consistent with the 2015 Paris Agreement ambitions, and identifies key previously untapped opportunities for cities to address the impact of urban consumption whilst delivering multiple other benefits for their citizens. It also maps how urban stakeholders can work together to deliver these changes.

The Future of Urban Consumption in a 1.5C World has been co-created and co-delivered by C40, Arup and University of Leeds with funding from Arup, University of Leeds and Citi Foundation.

The six sectors discussed in the report also have ‘in focus’ individual reports:

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
December 6, 2022 5:58 pm
Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 5:58 pm

Snowy Hydro in November finally confirmed that the budget for the Snowy 2.0 project had blown out to just under $6 billion and is running around 12 months behind schedule. Snowy executives still pocketed millions in bonuses, including for meeting cost and performance targets on the controversial project.

Sounds just like how the NBN started and still hasn’t finished. It has lost money all the way. Our money that is.

calli
calli
December 6, 2022 6:01 pm

Pelargoniums, you say? And you would be correct when it comes to what does well here.

The only geraniums I have are those horrible weedy, cranesbill types. I go all medieval on those ones.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 6:01 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
December 6, 2022 6:02 pm

Like everything associated with the ALPBC,The Boyer Lecture has been been declining for years and is now circling the S-bend with most of their unwatched programming.

Robert Sewell
December 6, 2022 6:03 pm

Alwaysright:

I wonder, which side we will be on?

The losing side, of course.

calli
calli
December 6, 2022 6:04 pm

Speaking of the Wars of the Weeds, I am now strapped up, second row style.

My first hamstring injury evah. It has not deterred me, but made me ruthless. Die, you buggers!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 6, 2022 6:04 pm

Abigail Shapiro you say?

Never heard of him

Dot
Dot
December 6, 2022 6:05 pm

How the HELL is anyone losing money on Snowy 2.0?

They must have very thick carpets at their soon to be voluntarily administered head offices.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 6, 2022 6:06 pm

Awesome..

I was today years old when i found out this exists.
Now you do as well.
No need to thank me.
Celebrity Armpits on Twitter

This is what happens when you look for Abbie gifs..

Zipster
December 6, 2022 6:07 pm

No man with a scintilla of sanity would “stealth” a woman, in fact it is more likely he will lie about not having had a vasectomy.

t

some guy trying to get a bit of skin contact is worthy of having your life destroyed? get a grip dot.

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 6:08 pm

Dotsays:
December 6, 2022 at 6:05 pm
How the HELL is anyone losing money on Snowy 2.0?

They must have very thick carpets at their soon to be voluntarily administered head offices.

The Taxpayer will lose the money.

Zipster
December 6, 2022 6:09 pm

– In the Transporation sector, the ambitious goal is to remove all private vehicles, and the target lifetime of vehicles is 50 years.

works in cuba

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 6, 2022 6:12 pm

How the HELL is anyone losing money on Snowy 2.0?

Expensive time to be doing anything. Government should be sitting on its hands for a few years till the RBA crashes the economy.

Dot
Dot
December 6, 2022 6:12 pm

some guy trying to get a bit of skin contact is worthy of having your life destroyed? get a grip dot.

I agree it’s bullshit. Now factor in an unwanted pregnancy and it’s nuts.

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 6:12 pm

An old woman prospector shuffled into town leading a tired old mule. The old woman headed straight for the only saloon to clear her parched throat. She walked up and tied her old mule to the hitch rail. As she stood there, brushing some of the dust from her face and clothes, a young gunslinger stepped out of the saloon with a gun in one hand and a bottle of whiskey in the other.

The young gunslinger looked at the old woman and laughed, saying “Hey old woman, have you ever danced?” The old woman looked up at the gunslinger and said “No, I never did dance… never really wanted to”.

A crowd had gathered as the gunslinger grinned and said “Well, you old bag, you’re gonna dance now!” and started shooting at the old woman’s feet.

The old woman prospector – not wanting to get her toe blown off started hopping around… everybody was laughing.

When his last bullet had been fired, the young gunslinger, still laughing, holstered his gun and turned around to go back into the saloon. The old woman turned to her pack mule, pulled out a double-barrelled shotgun, and cocked both hammers. The loud clicks carried clearly through the desert air. The crowd stopped laughing immediately.

The young gunslinger heard the sounds too, and he turned around very slowly. The silence was almost deafening.

The crowd watched as the young gunman stared at the old woman and the large gaping holes of those twin barrels. The barrels of the shotgun never wavered in the old woman’s hands, as she quietly said “Son, have you ever licked a mule’s ass?”

The gunslinger swallowed hard and said “No mam… but… I’ve always wanted to”.

There are a few lessons for us all here:
1. Don’t be arrogant.
2. Don’t waste ammunition.
3. Whiskey makes you think you’re smarter than you are.
4. Always, always make sure you know who has the power.
5. Don’t mess with old women; they didn’t get old by being stupid…

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 6:14 pm

The will to win, the desire to succeed, the urge to reach your full potential… these are the keys that will unlock the door to personal excellence.

– Confucius

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 6, 2022 6:16 pm

m0ntysays:
December 6, 2022 at 5:46 pm
My mistakes of fact are so infrequent as to be memorable.

ROFLMAO. They are certainly memorable, even if not infrequent.

Robert Sewell
December 6, 2022 6:18 pm

Zyconoclast:

Snowy Hydro in November finally confirmed that the budget for the Snowy 2.0 project had blown out to just under $6 billion and is running around 12 months behind schedule. Snowy executives still pocketed millions in bonuses, including for meeting cost and performance targets on the controversial project.

The project failed, but the executives pocketed millions for doing a good job.
Send in the auditors and start gaoling people.

Makka
Makka
December 6, 2022 6:22 pm

Rutgers professor says that “white people are committed to being villains”

Someone tell the stupid fat cow that the people who first abducted their noble savage black ancestors for selling on were black or Arab.

calli
calli
December 6, 2022 6:23 pm

Snowy 2.0 was an obvious scam. When we visited the Cooma centre and were shown the AEMO display, I batted my eyelashes and asked the engineer how it worked.

As he explained it to me, I opined – it’s not actually making new electricity is it? It’s just selling it at a higher price. He had the grace to blush, poor man.

bons
bons
December 6, 2022 6:23 pm

Andy Hastie for me is the only Lib with any capacity to recreate the SLF and as leader take the conservative fight to the Marxists.
And what a delicious FU it would be to Turnbull if he got the top job.

Lysander
Lysander
December 6, 2022 6:24 pm

I might be getting some grey hairs but wtf is Coles Radio???

https://www.coles.com.au/customer-care/coles-radio

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

johanna says: December 6, 2022 at 1:07 pm
Dutton is a dickhead.

It’s getting to the point where it is difficult to arrive at any other conclusion.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Perhaps Noel P can point us to the clauses in the British Constitution, giving recognition to the Celts, the Picts, the Angles and the Saxons (inter alia).

Just pointing to the British Constitution would be problematic enough for Noel.

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 6:29 pm

bonssays:
December 6, 2022 at 6:23 pm
Andy Hastie for me is the only Lib with any capacity to recreate the SLF and as leader take the conservative fight to the Marxists.
And what a delicious FU it would be to Turnbull if he got the top job.

I have noticed that TurnBullShit and the KRudd have been very silent of late. Too busy sucking on the UN tit to talk methinks……………………..

win
win
December 6, 2022 6:29 pm

I know several of you have got an Australian Bussness register Service number.
What do you make of this
“Our vision is to be custodian of trusted business information an d a world class provider of services used by businesses and government agencies to un lock economic and social value for Australia.”
I suppose its a tax grab.

MatrixTransform
December 6, 2022 6:30 pm

So how does one verify that a disc image has not been tampered with?

a hash key is generated for the ISO image and published with the image.
you can compare the published hash by running a gen on the file yourself.
if your hash matches the public hash then no tampering was done.

You still may have an authenticity problem.
best to verify the CERT chain as well.

WRT the Linux distro I sent to Bob… gotta love a torrent download…2.4GB in less than 10 minutes.

the trouble is that bits of the file come from everywhere and you don’t really know where they came from so, I ran the key gen and cert chain tests myself to verify and validate

Bob could do it too … mind you, its a pain in the arse

‘trust’ is the issue

interestingly during the last week or two a major CERT Authority was revealed as being too close to a certain Govt hacking tool vendor. Their trust chain was quietly dropped by major Browsers.

CERTS are great … except when the system of authorities is compromised and your poor old machine has a dodgy cert/trust store up it.

our industrial widgetry now requires code-signing certificates even for the java-ish versions of our own ‘secret-sauce’ modules. (secret sauce … get it? … its a double entendre).

anyway the thing is , that in that eco-system I can currently create my own self-signed certificates that do not refer up to a proper trusted well known authority. So essentially I ‘could’ write code to do naughty things, stick it up a machine with a self-signed certificate. and hey presto … bad actor.

JC
JC
December 6, 2022 6:30 pm

dover0beach says:
December 6, 2022 at 4:42 pm

I’ve asked you several times. Show how you would conduct a test to determine reliable efficacy.

And I’ve answered it several times. Simply give select people in a particular use case masks and see how they fare compared to those without them. It’s just straightforward.

That’s not testing anything. How the fuck would you know if Covid or anything else carries over if you DON’T even know if anyone in the group is stricken with the illness. You mentioned one other time that the way you would test with a placebo would be to offer some people faulty masks. That’s not even close to defining how placebos are supposed to function in a test. I would have thought you knew this. Placebo means no drug, or in this case no mask.

Yes it is.
Let me repeat, if you want to know the efficacy of masks in a particular use case, trying to control things like people needing to be in the ‘exact position not allowing them to move, ensuring they inhale and exhale with equal force’ is counterproductive because you cannot control for these in the respective use case anyway.

And let me repeat, if you tested the way you’re suggesting you would know absolute shit in terms of efficacy because you’re not performing any decent test. Please, enuff.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 6, 2022 6:32 pm

Just pointing to the British Constitution would be problematic enough for Noel.

Tough for anybody. A job for the apprentice.

Johnny Rotten
December 6, 2022 6:32 pm

winsays:
December 6, 2022 at 6:29 pm
I know several of you have got an Australian Bussness register Service number.
What do you make of this
“Our vision is to be custodian of trusted business information an d a world class provider of services used by businesses and government agencies to un lock economic and social value for Australia.”
I suppose its a tax grab.

I have an ABN and I have never seen that before. Sounds like BS to me.

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