Open Thread – Tue 6 Dec 2020


Mary and Joseph on the Way to Bethlehem, Hugo van der Goes, 1475


2,107 responses to “Open Thread – Tue 6 Dec 2020”

  1. dover0beach Avatar

    Melinda Richards ????
    @goodfoodgal
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    7h
    Pure. Gold.
    COViD in a nutshell.
    Better to laugh at the sad truth..,

    This is very good.

  2. NFA Avatar
    NFA

    dover0beach says:
    December 6, 2022 at 12:38 am

    But sad as

  3. Oh come on Avatar
    Oh come on

    Hoo boy. Marcia Langton has clearly had some media training recently. Not so long ago you could have sharpened an axe on that face. We could have sent her to Qatar and she would have single-handedly taken out the World Cup for the Indigenous nations of Australia by scowling all of rhe opposing teams into forfeit.

    She kind of looks not utterly hateful in the photo attached to this article. It’s a first. Photoshop can only do so much, right? Imagine the work that went into reshaping those mile-deep frown lines.

  4. JC Avatar

    Pretty extraordinary. Miranda Devine, an Australian working for the NYPost is without much doubt the lead opinionista in the Bunter Hiden laptop scandal. And the she’s not letting go.

    You go girl!

    https://nypost.com/2022/12/04/fbi-warned-twitter-of-hunter-biden-hack-before-censoring-the-post/

    It’d be kind of cool if an Aussie chick brought down the Hidens.

  5. JC Avatar

    Dover

    Getting back to the mask issue.
    The problem with testing mask effectiveness comes down to the precision needed compared to what is required in drug studies. It would be impossible to attain precision and thoroughness. You end up with approximation and that’s not good enough to falsify.

  6. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I read through that mask study, instead of wearing masks they maintained complete silence, so not exactly mask v no mask.

  7. JC Avatar

    Exactly Rosie. In other words it’s complete bullshit because how would you function in a hospital environment in complete silence? That fucking idiot, Hallward Hughes, is continually posting links that he suggests support his theses when they do nothing of the sort and most often times they actually run counter to his argument.

    oh lookee here, I found a ‘study”, which shows masks are useless in a hospital setting, provided… provided no one talks

    This is the turd who constantly infers he’s almost a Nobel Scientist.
    What a fucking idiot.

  8. JC Avatar

    On a more happier note. What a great piece! It’s so optimistically wonderful, celebrating an incredible milestone. Humanity reached 8 billion people alive at the same time.

    Just read it as it makes you feel good being human.

    Hurrah for 8 Billion Humans
    Leigh Phillips

  9. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    It’d be kind of cool if an Aussie chick brought down the Hidens.

    Miranda Devine is a thoroughbred, JC. Her old man Frank was a giant of journalism in Australia and eventually finished up as editor of the New York Post, where Miranda now works.

    And Miranda isn’t just a pretty face: she has a Bachelor of Science (Mathematics).

    I have her book about the Bidens, Laptop From Hell, which should earn her a stack of awards, but won’t because the left controls journalism and all its gongs.

  10. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Actually she’s not a “Lezzo”, Dick Ed. She was happily married to the late Marmaduke Hussey (who was not a “flamer”) and is a mother of several children.

    Wot, you knew her personally, did you?

  11. Pogria Avatar
    Pogria

    Mark Knight prostrating himself and tugging his forelock as he shuffles backwards out the door on bended knee.

  12. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Mark Knight.

    Excellent, he’s putting the boot in! Fun fallout from yesterday:

    Government apologises and backflips after demanding Herald Sun take down cartoon depicting Uluru and Voice to Parliament (5 Dec)

    “A Commonwealth Government agency has apologised after requesting the Herald Sun remove a cartoon depicting Uluru in a piece about the Nationals’ recent rejection of the Voice to Parliament.

    The major Melbourne newspaper received a letter from Parks Australia last week ordering it to delete the cartoon by Mark Knight, arguing it breached media guidelines, according to the Herald Sun.

    However, following backlash from the Herald Sun’s weekend editor, Nick Papps, and the engagement of lawyers refusing to remove the cartoon, the government department has backflipped on its demands.”

    I think there’ll be a lot of tippytoeing from the Labor Party because they detect an undercurrent of resentment, which if fanned will lead to a resounding “no” in the referendum. So they’ll be keeping the noisiest activists quiet and avoid causing “events, dear boy, events”, like Knight’s cartoon could’ve been, between now and the vote.

  13. 2dogs Avatar
    2dogs

    Has Monty explained how “Russian kompromat” could have ended up on Hunter Biden’s laptop yet?

  14. 132andBush Avatar
    132andBush

    Has Monty explained how “Russian kompromat” could have ended up on Hunter Biden’s laptop yet?

    Monty can’t explain what a fascist is.

  15. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Get on your Vespa Ed and go to work.

  16. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    132andbush, of course he can, he looks in the mirror and sees what one looks like.

  17. Robert Sewell Avatar

    For those interested in the ramblings of a Win!! user and Brave/Edge user, crystal clear using Edge, Brave unlistenable to.
    It looks to me like Win!! is deliberately sabotaging the playback of certain videos on Brave. You Tube is affected as well.

  18. Dot Avatar

    . You end up with approximation and that’s not good enough to falsify.

    You have not been forced to write mealy mouthed conclusions by journal editors.

    Let’s say,

    p =0.0000001

    * The evidence suggests…*

    It sure does little buddy.

  19. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    MatrixTransformsays:
    December 5, 2022 at 10:53 pm
    Throw that shit out and have a nice curry

    oh, I got a lamb curry recipe that will have you weeping

    Best Lamb iv eaten was killed less then an hour before. It was so good I didn’t reach for the BBQ source.

  20. Dot Avatar

    Here’s a word that doesn’t need to exist:

    “Clussy”

    Thanks internet, stay clsssy.

  21. Dot Avatar

    Best Lamb iv eaten was killed less then an hour before. It was so good I didn’t reach for the BBQ source.

    Taiwan. They just refuse woke BS.

    https://youtu.be/YP-oRwpLFFI

  22. alwaysright Avatar
    alwaysright

    What is the hypothesis that we are testing?

    a. masks are effective against the plague
    b. masks are useless against the plague

    Which is it?

  23. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    What is the hypothesis that we are testing?

    a. masks are effective against the plague
    b. masks are useless against the plague

    Ask the socialists in Germany.

    Follow Lockdown Masking Rules to Prevent Cold and Flu, Government Parties Say (5 Dec)

    “Government parties within Germany are now telling the public to follow mask-wearing rules first implemented during COVID in order to slow the spread of cold and flu.

    Politicians within the ruling Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) and the Free Democratic Party (FDP) are now telling the German public to follow mask-wearing procedures first put in place during the country’s COVID lockdowns in order to fight cold and flu.”

    Germans go nuts about once a century. We’re right in the middle of the latest attack of madness.

  24. Dot Avatar

    Is there even a war on?

    Ukraine. World champ of cringe.

    https://youtu.be/23j8jOwYwL4

  25. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Lefties have no sense of humour.

    “Not Funny”, “Dangerous”: Former Twitter Censor Justifies Banning Babylon Bee (6 Dec)

    “Former Twitter censor Yoel Roth justified the site in its pre-Elon Musk incarnation banning satirical website The Babylon Bee, asserting that its content was “not funny” and “dangerous.” … Despite Yoel Roth admitting that Twitter had made a mistake in banning a story about the Hunter Biden laptop scandal, he said the censorship of the Babylon Bee was perfectly reasonable.”

    They also really really hate being mocked, which is fun because they are so mockable.

  26. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    BoN, the lefties are well aware of the Alinsky rule”. Use ridicule.

  27. Fair Shake Avatar
    Fair Shake

    I detect what the problem at the Palace really is. Lady Hussey is a fake racist and should be called out for it. These are difficult times when demand for real racists outstrips supply. Cheap knockoffs appear and flood the market. One shall have to make do with what one has.

  28. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Meme

    Dover, that truth bomb deserves its own thread.

  29. m0nty Avatar
    m0nty

    The story is that the blind repairman gave the laptop to the Feds. The “laptop” that you talk about now is a disk image he made. There is no way to verify whether the contents of the copy are all 100% legit, or whether it has been added to or amended.

  30. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Yesterday: nothing to see.
    Today: fake.

    Do better.

  31. calli Avatar
    calli

    We can agree that Lady Hussey lacked tact in her engagement with Ms Fulani at Buckingham Palace last week.

    From the Spiked article.

    Who is this “we”, kemosabe?

    The race baiter, rigged up in obviously African national dress from somewhere or other on that continent, was wired and deliberately withheld a polite answer when asked.

    I would have “lacked tact” too when faced with a rude, infantile guest with whom I was tasked to make small talk.

    Hussey should have shown her her back after the first obfuscation. Or pointed her to the drinks waiter.

  32. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    From Ye Olde Fredde

    Zipster

    bugs and fake meat will be all that the great unwashed will be able to afford.

    Nah. there’ll always be Soylent Green. m0nty=fa, carefully processed, would feed a couple of suburbs for a week.

  33. Pogria Avatar
    Pogria

    Nicholas Sandmann Asks Twitter to Release ‘Hidden’ Twitter Files on Death Threats

    Rittenhouse Wants Musk to Reveal ‘Hidden Censoring’ Against Him

    Ex-Twitter Safety Executive Yoel Roth Defends Censoring the Babylon Bee

    This is becoming really exciting! These stories are at Breitbart and a couple of other US sites.

  34. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    That anyone could defend a decaying old corruptocrat that should be in jail suggests a complete loss of moral compass. Stupid or evil or both.

  35. alwaysright Avatar
    alwaysright

    m0nty says:
    December 6, 2022 at 8:05 am

    Might be correct.
    The US is picky about evidence handling.

  36. Carpe Jugulum Avatar
    Carpe Jugulum

    bugs and fake meat will be all that the great unwashed will be able to afford.

    Learning to Fish and Hunt would be useful.

    Just Saying

  37. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    The story is that the blind repairman gave the laptop to the Feds. The “laptop” that you talk about now is a disk image he made. There is no way to verify whether the contents of the copy are all 100% legit, or whether it has been added to or amended

    Oh well. Looks like Hunter and Joe are in the clear then.

    Much ado about nothing. Let’s move on. Nothing to see here.

  38. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “We can agree that Lady Hussey lacked tact in her engagement with Ms Fulani at Buckingham Palace last week.”

    I don’t agree. As I wrote last night, asking someone “where they’re from” can be the beginning of a great conversation. I had such a great conversation yesterday with a young woman of Vietnamese background. And you know what, I look forward to many more such conversations.

    As for poor Lady Susan, she was set up by an ugly, repulsive, vindictive, race grifting, Marxist, BLM loving, UK loathing activist. What is unforgiveable is how the current King and his heir handled the situation.

  39. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Apparently you can cool a house by putting the air conditioner on. And oddly you can warm one up with a heater. Who could’ve realized such brilliant answers to climate variations?

    In an “Emergency Heatwave”, wait for it, ABC Nanny tells Australians to “use air conditioning” (6 Dec)

    Met Office urges vulnerable people to put heating on as big freeze to plunge UK to -10C (5 Dec)

    These people are really brainy to come up with such ideas. Maybe they could also tell us how to pay for the electricity?

  40. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    Yes I ask people with a non foreign accent where they are from because I’m interested.

  41. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    Foreign accent I mean

  42. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    I’m glad mOnster cleared that up for everyone.

    Joes is in the clear. So is Hunter. Happy days.

    [insert thumbs up here]

  43. JC Avatar

    m0nty says:
    December 6, 2022 at 8:05 am

    The story is that the blind repairman gave the laptop to the Feds. The “laptop” that you talk about now is a disk image he made. There is no way to verify whether the contents of the copy are all 100% legit, or whether it has been added to or amended.

    Fatboy, I can’t ever recall you being so conservative about Wussiagate. What happened?

  44. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    2dogssays:
    December 6, 2022 at 6:51 am
    Has Monty explained how “Russian kompromat” could have ended up on Hunter Biden’s laptop yet?

    He doesn’t need to explain, it’s in the DemonRat Talking Points, so it must be true.

  45. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    The ‘democratic’ party. The party of mafia trash like Pelosi, big business, starvation wages, billionaires, big business and the Washington war machine- and the modern left support it. Says a lot about the modern left.

  46. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Labor’s federal election review reports that Scott Morrison was their most potent weapon. 😀

    Albanese’s “small target” campaign meant many voters weren’t aware of Labor’s agenda (bug or feature?).

    Expresses concern for loss of Labor heartland voters.

    All in all, despite conceding that they’re in power by default (on32% of the primary vote), the report offers a 27 point plan to become a long term progressive government, despite all but acknowledging that they have no mandate for such a program.

    If Dutton can’t make hay out of this he’s not worth his salt.

  47. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Aborigines Department – Report for Financial Year ending 30th June 1901

    The WA Map on Page 51 showing the Itinerary of Travelling Inspector of Aborigines Aug 1899 to May 1901 is pretty amazing – 124 Stations Visited

  48. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    Yes I ask people with a foreign accent where they are from because I’m interested.

    If I hear a foreign accent, I generally beg them for money. Or pickpocket them.

    I believe it’s some sort of cultural welcome in their home countries. I want them to feel at home when they arrive here.

    #brotherhoodofnations

  49. calli Avatar
    calli

    In a just world, the comedians would be doing sketches with Lady Susan head butting the vile racist.

    And then offering her a refreshing Pimms.

    But they’re all cowering behind their Woke figleaves.

  50. dover0beach Avatar

    ??? ???
    @traddingtonbear
    ·
    2h
    I’m thinking we need to invade Canada, if even for purely self-defense reasons.
    Quote Tweet

    End Wokeness
    @EndWokeness
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    Dec 4
    Canada offers disabled veteran “aid to die” when she asks for a stairlift

    Coming to a health system near you.

  51. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Alan Kohler says inflation will fix global warming.

    Claim: We Must Allow More Inflation to Address Climate Change (6 Dec)

    “Central banks need to start thinking seriously about raising inflation targets because of climate change. Global warming is inherently, inescapably, inflationary”

    No Alan it isn’t, because it isn’t happening much. What is causing inflation are mad policies from religious nutters like you.

  52. calli Avatar
    calli

    And that’s it from me. Off to hunt and gather a Christmas turkey and ham.

    Wish me luck as I enter the wilds of deepest, darkest Colesworths.

  53. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    Fatboy, I can’t ever recall you being so conservative about Wussiagate. What happened?

    Hmmm…..

  54. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    I would have “lacked tact” too when faced with a rude, infantile guest with whom I was tasked to make small talk.

    Hussey should have shown her her back after the first obfuscation. Or pointed her to the drinks waiter.

    Her job was to make small talk, l calli.

    After 60 odd years of doing so – and no doubt encountering many such idiots in more recent times – I don’t blame her for this, but perhaps it’s time for her to enjoy the fruits of her labours.

    Having said that, her public cancellation by Prince William was disgraceful (literally!). Should I live long enough, I won’t be singing God save our gracious King for him, unless there’s a great mea culpa in the meantime.

    Anyway, storm in a tea cup compared to everything else that bedevils the UK atm.

  55. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Wish me luck as I enter the wilds of deepest, darkest Colesworths

    Calli, try a local butcher with a good reputation and award winning produce instead.

    Worth the extra cost!

  56. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Anyway, storm in a tea cup compared to everything else that bedevils the UK atm.

    Yes just another distraction.

  57. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Canada offers disabled veteran “aid to die” when she asks for a stairlift

    Coming to a health system near you.

    no worries, maybe they need his organs.
    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/medically-assisted-deaths-prove-a-growing-boon-to-organ-donation-in-ontario

  58. m0nty Avatar
    m0nty

    The strongest argument that the “laptop” hasn’t been hacked by the Russians is that the published materials are so inconsequential. If I was a GRU operative and I was going to insert fake evidence into a disk image, I would at least manufacture lies of actual crimes or unethical behaviour. As it is, the reported contents are weak as piss.

  59. m0nty Avatar
    m0nty

    Mind you, the contents of Hillary’s emails were equally pissweak, and they managed to ratfsck an election with that. It’s all about the delivery, isn’t it? Blow enough smoke and pretend there’s something in Al Capone’s vault. The fact that there’s nothing there is immaterial, it’s all about the con.

  60. Anders Avatar
    Anders

    m0nty says:
    December 6, 2022 at 8:05 am

    The story is that the blind repairman gave the laptop to the Feds. The “laptop” that you talk about now is a disk image he made. There is no way to verify whether the contents of the copy are all 100% legit, or whether it has been added to or amended.

    The pee dossier though, that’s totally credible!

  61. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Calli, try a local butcher with a good reputation and award winning produce instead.

    I just found the supplier for my favourite restaurant, and go straight to the source. Much cheaper than Colesworth, and infinitely better quality. Purchasing in slightly larger quantities is a small concession to make.

    Networking, the way of the future!

  62. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Mambers of the ACT Bar have reportedly called for the resignation of DPP Shane Drumgold for pursuing a politically motivated case against Bruce Lehrmann when there was no prospect of a sound conviction.

  63. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “If Dutton can’t make hay out of this he’s not worth his salt.”

    Dutton’s had six months and so far all we see is him all over the shop re. the Voice and he thinks that attendees at a conservative conference, the bulk of whom were once traditional Liberal voters such as myself, are “extreme right”.

    It ain’t promising.

  64. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    I just found the supplier for my favourite restaurant, and go straight to the source.

    We’re fortunate to be in the vicinity of some of the best pork, lamb and beef producers in the land and have a local butcher or threee who consistently win prizes for their hams. Bit of a tradition in these parts but it’s encouraging to see them thriving in the face of the would be monopolists.

  65. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Get on your Vespa Ed and go to work.

    Special was one of the first to work from home, well basement really.

  66. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    If you like westerns then this is an excellent 6 part series from, surprisingly, the BBC .. well worth a look .. THE ENGLISH starring Emily Blunt …
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11771270/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

  67. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    If I was a GRU operative and I was going to insert fake evidence into a disk image, I would at least manufacture lies of actual crimes or unethical behaviour.

    So your verdict is NO Russian collusion in this instance?

    God bless you mOnts. Americans can sleep safe in the knowledge that Joe didn’t do anything wrong.

    Cats, it looks like we have to crawl out of a right wing nut “rabbit hole”. AGAIN!

  68. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    . If I was a GRU operative and I was going to insert fake evidence into a disk image, I would at least manufacture lies of actual crimes or unethical behaviour. As it is, the reported contents are weak as piss.

    But a lot of those “pissweak” contents raise important ethical questions about the First Dodderer, and most importantly have been confirmed by others involved.

    As for Hillary’s emails, it doesn’t matter what the contents were, the fact is the server had classified materials on them and prima facie she had broken the law. Whether the material should have been so classified is another matter.

  69. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    With a mother like Dianna slag and a father like king tampon the 1st, the future of the house of Windsor is not auspicious.

  70. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Calli, try a local butcher with a good reputation and award winning produce instead.

    Actually, the best butcher I have found is in my local Woolies. (I haven’t shopped at Coles for years, but I understand they sacked their in-house butchers about a year ago).

    My Woolies butcher is not only best on price, but best on quality, too. My sister-in-law recommended him.

    I used to use a local butcher who was top-quality, but who charged a fortune.

    PS: I keep meaning to visit Coles to compare it to Woolies, but I have no underlying unmet need.

  71. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    “If Dutton can’t make hay out of this he’s not worth his salt.”
    Reality is if Dudzy Biloela wasn’t a trougher he’d be long term unemployed material like the majority of his Parliamentsry colleagues (both sides) .. FFS!

  72. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Dutton is a place holder at best. And he’s not even doing that particularly well. I expect the Lieborals are working hard on reform in the background … Bwahahahahaaaa. But he’s all they’ve got.

  73. sfw Avatar

    Like Abbott, Dutton has been promoted a level higher than his competence, both made (is making) a hash of the job they wanted.

  74. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    Abbott did ok as opposition leader.

  75. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    for pursuing a politically motivated case against Bruce Lehrmann when there was no prospect of a sound conviction.

    Same playbook as the US. Who is Shane Drumgold? Mad editing going on at wikipedia. Mt Druitt boy who worked for the postal service? Indigenous. The dude is ticking a lot of boxes here.

  76. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    Dutton has been promoted a level higher than his competence

    As the bear says, the competency of the Liberal Party below him must be pretty shite.

  77. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Like Abbott, Dutton has been promoted a level higher than his competence, both made (is making) a hash of the job they wanted.”

    I think Abbott was a very good opposition leader.

  78. JC Avatar

    H B Bear says:
    December 6, 2022 at 9:15 am

    Dutton is a place holder at best. And he’s not even doing that particularly well. I expect the Lieborals are working hard on reform in the background … Bwahahahahaaaa. But he’s all they’ve got.

    Think back to the mirror image. The Albanian was considered 100% hopeless when he was elected, just after that lardball Morrison won. Politics is a combination of luck and opportunity and the opp leader doesn’t have to be very popular prior to gaining the top job. The objective is to win the government benches and from there the leader can tread his own path.
    These idiots (Liars Party) are digging their own grave right now.

  79. flyingduk Avatar
    flyingduk

    I don’t agree. As I wrote last night, asking someone “where they’re from” can be the beginning of a great conversation. I had such a great conversation yesterday with a young woman of Vietnamese background. And you know what, I look forward to many more such conversations.

    Correct, whenever I hear a foreign lilt, I smile and say something like ‘I have a hobby of guessing accents … in you I hear the middle east, a touch of french and some american…. am I close?’

    PS… last time I used that exact analogy, the lady replied ‘wow – born in Beirut , and went to the American University there!’

  80. JC Avatar

    I think Abbott was a very good opposition leader.

    Yes. How he collapsed is just amazing.

  81. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Last year, after the Brittaneee the Knickerless’ story first broke, I wasn’t sure….but I erred on the fact that there was simply no evidence to support Knickerless’ accusations and that the ACT DPP should not prosecute and if if they did prosecute and it went to trial then any jury should find Lehmann innocent.

    I now believe Lehmann to be totally 100% innocent. Everything was manufactured and fabricated to underwrite a political hit job to destroy a Liberal government and destroy an innocent man’s life.

  82. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    I should also add that whilst we knew this already from the Pell case, this case of Higgins further confirms the theory that the left will stop at nothing, absolutely nothing, to pursue and destroy their ideological enemies.

  83. Davey Boy Avatar
    Davey Boy

    good lawd, the soft trap machine is humming along nicely here I see
    it’s harmless if you leave it alone
    move right along & give it a wide berth

  84. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Yes. How he collapsed is just amazing.”

    It was quite distressing to watch at the time.

  85. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Dutton has been promoted a level higher than his competence

    As the bear says, the competency of the Liberal Party below him must be pretty shite.

    The Liberal Party certainly has a talent problem, but then just consider Labor’s front bench with many retreads from R-G-R whose incompetence is proven (Hi, Penny!).

    Parliament was once the goal of people of education and substance who’d proven themselves in real life. Now we only take parliamentarians seriously because of the damage they’re doing to the nation.

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Family’s long battle to stay in SA as ISIS brides waved through

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    By DAVID PENBERTHY
    11:08PM December 5, 2022
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    Just weeks after the ISIS brides and anti-vax tennis player Novak Djokovic had their visa issues resolved, an Adelaide electrician who was asked to emigrate to Australia from Scotland to fill local labour market shortages has suffered another delay in his ­battle for residency.

    Mark Green, 44, has spent the past 10 years working hard in South Australia after he, wife Kelly and daughter Rebecca were urged to emigrate from Scotland so Mr Green could work here as an electrician.

    The family has spent the past six months trying to have their problems addressed by Immigration Minister Andrew Giles, urging the minister to use his discretionary powers to grant them permanent resident status.

    The three-month deadline for the minister’s decision was set to expire next Friday, but the Greens have now been informed that the process has been extended by another three months.

    “We are trying to be patient, but it is becoming pretty hard,” Mr Green said. “We just want to be able to start our lives properly here, to get a mortgage and place some roots here. As a father, I am particularly concerned about ­Rebecca. She wants to study nursing and because of our visa status … she can’t study anything.

    “We love this country and we want to be able to stay so we can keep putting back into it.”

    Since his arrival 10 years ago, Mr Green worked tirelessly in the solar panel industry and only fell foul of the immigration laws due to a visa bungle by a former employer who went broke.

    He has not claimed a cent of welfare and even paid out of his own pocket to send Rebecca to a local government high school in Adelaide’s southern suburbs.

    The Greens have incurred more than $200,000 on legal bills and other costs in their battle to stay here, but were due to be deported on August 10.

    In an 11th-hour reprieve, Mr Giles agreed to review their case after they and SA Premier Peter Malinauskas asked whether it would be appropriate for the ­minister to use his discretionary power to grant them residency.

    Through their lawyer, the Greens are using the precedent set in August by Mr Giles in granting permanent residency to the Nadesalingam family from Sri Lanka to argue that they too should be allowed to stay.

    Mr Green said he did not want to criticise the process but could not help but note the resolution of the cases involving the ISIS brides and Novak Djokovic.

    The Australian understands Mr Malinauskas is in touch with the federal government over the Greens and is privately backing their bid to stay in SA.

    SA Best MLC Frank Pangallo said the case was becoming “beyond a joke”. “The government can decide in a heartbeat to let the wives of ISIS terrorists back into the country and revoke the visa cancellation of a world-famous sportsman yet struggles to make a decision to allow the Green family to live permanently in Australia,” he said. “There is no way on earth this loving, hardworking, taxpaying family should be forced to leave our shores after calling Australia home for the past 10 years – especially given the reasons they face being kicked out are totally out of their control.”

    Mr Giles’s office has said that it is ­unable to comment on individual applications for permanent residency.

  87. dover0beach Avatar

    Getting back to the mask issue.
    The problem with testing mask effectiveness comes down to the precision needed compared to what is required in drug studies. It would be impossible to attain precision and thoroughness. You end up with approximation and that’s not good enough to falsify.

    JC, no. As I said, a study of mask effectiveness is attempting to ascertain how efficacious masks are in a particular use case. That’s it. Given this, it is neither impossible to be precise or thorough in such a study, nor is it impossible to develop a thesis that is falsifiable.

  88. alwaysright Avatar
    alwaysright

    in power by default (on32% of the primary vote), …

    Something aint right in Kansas when that can happen.

  89. Dot Avatar

    that the published materials are so inconsequential

    No.

  90. 2dogs Avatar
    2dogs

    There is no way to verify whether the contents of the copy are all 100% legit, or whether it has been added to or amended.

    The FBI could do this quite easily.

  91. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Speaking of incompetence, Albanese – struck down again with covid – is supposed to be leading a virtual meeting with state premiers on Friday to nut out the details of his proposed cap on coal and gas prices, a “momentous” development from whichever angle you consider it. Yet, according to Perrottet, the premiers have yet to receive any paperwork detailing the proposal. Elbow is making PM KRudd’s office look efficient.

  92. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    Yes. How he collapsed is just amazing.

    Lord Turnbull might have had a bit to do with that.

  93. P Avatar
    P

    European Parliament displays Nativity scene for first time in its history
    CNA Newsroom, Dec 5, 2022 / 12:25 pm

    Christmas this year marks the first time in its history that the European Parliament has allowed a Nativity scene to be set up at its headquarters in Brussels. Until now, officials of the European institution had considered it “potentially offensive.”

  94. Jorge Avatar
    Jorge

    The next election is years off and Labor is still shiny new. Wong, Plibbers, the referendum, renewables, Covid, Brittany, even the World Cup, all seem part of Albo delivering.

    But the bubble will burst. Events dear boy. Don’t interrupt the enemy.

    I don’t know if this is how Dutton sees it, but think of Rudd’s popularity at the beginning and it’s sudden collapse. Dutton is right to bide his time.

  95. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    Those New Oirish are fitting in well.

  96. dover0beach Avatar

    The strongest argument that the “laptop” hasn’t been hacked by the Russians is that the published materials are so inconsequential.

    Sure, the contents were ‘so inconsequential’ they lined up several former heads of alphabet agencies to lie about it, censored its discussion on social media, and used the msm to continuously undermine it by propagating lies about ‘Russian hacking’ when not ignoring it. Dear oh dear.

  97. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Dutton is no Abbott. Abbott was a Rhodes scholar at Oxford, Dutton is an ex Qld cop for whats that worth. Yep the Liars will self-destruct (as usual, possibly spectacularly. Certainly taking thousands of people and small businesses with them.) It feels like one of those situations where the next Lieboral PM might not even be in the Parliament. We’ll see.

  98. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    asking someone “where they’re from”
    I’ve been here since 1967 and there is hardly a day that has gone by that I haven’t been asked that question .. just a cross I’ve learnt to bear (heroically, of course!) for being a “Geordie” with a strong accent that has withstood nearly a lifetime of Oz without indentation! ….. the younger grandees think it’s wonderful .. LOL!

  99. JC Avatar

    JC, no.

    Dover, yes.

    As I said, a study of mask effectiveness is attempting to ascertain how efficacious masks are in a particular use case.

    Go ahead and explain how you would go about devising a study with the precision required. Would you lock people in the exact position not allowing them to move, ensuring they inhale and exhale with equal force across different parts of the study? How would you do this? As I said, it’s impossible for falsify and we therefore have to accept hunches at times.

    That’s it. Given this, it is neither impossible to be precise or thorough in such a study, nor is it impossible to develop a thesis that is falsifiable.

    Okay, thanks for finally agreeing with me. It took a while but you ended up on the side of righteousness.

  100. alwaysright Avatar
    alwaysright

    32% of the primary vote means that 68% (a decent majority) want someone else in government.

    proportional and compulsory voting need to go. A small first step to recovery.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Daily Mail

    EXCLUSIVE: Lisa Wilkinson in the firing line as Bruce Lehrmann considers suing Channel 10 and The Project star for defamation over interview where Brittany Higgins first broke her silence

    Bruce Lehrmann considers suing Lisa Wilkinson and Network 10 for defamation
    Brittany Higgins first made her rape claims in interview on The Project in 2021
    It is understood Lehrmann would claim he was not approached for comment
    He is not chopping wood in Tasmania to pay off his legal fees, despite reports
    Ms Higgins alleged Mr Lehrmann raped her in Parliament House in March 2019
    He pleaded not guilty, but the case was abandoned by prosecutors on Friday
    Do you know more? Email charlotte.karp@mailonline.com 

  102. JC Avatar

    Dover

    We had Hallward Hughes telling us yesterday there was a study from the 80s showing masks didn’t work. His own stupid link showed this was untrue. Unmasked works if people don’t talk, according to that meathead’s own study. Not talking in a hospital setting? Imagine how everyone in the medical field would have to learn sign language in order to avoid wearing masks.

    Hallward needs to be banished to the lollipop Cat where commenters go to die.

  103. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Being opposition leader is easy, you do nothing but keep an eye on the backstabbers and point out stupidity in the ones that have their hands on the controls. Voting in a government in Australia is like getting in with a drunk driver. You don’t know how big the crash is going to be. Government has no power over how well the economy does but everything how bad it does. Business can only react to the next brain fart from people that have never created a thing and then tried to sell it. Government creates nothing, only takes.

  104. Black Ball Avatar
    Black Ball

    Marles a wink and a nod to the great panda up north? The Hun:

    American submarines will visit Australia more regularly but Defence Minister Richard Marles has rejected basing them down under to bolster our defences until our nuclear-powered boats hit the water.

    Mr Marles is planning to use this week’s first meeting of AUKUS defence ministers to lock in the key planks of Australia’s nuclear submarine plan before it is unveiled early next year.

    But he said home-porting US submarines in Australia was “not the answer” to covering any capability gap that emerged before our boats were in service.

    It is understood the Australian government has also all but ruled out acquiring new conventional submarines, as it instead focuses on extending the life of its Collins-class boats and fast-tracking the nuclear-powered fleet.

    This week’s AUSMIN meeting between Australian and US defence and foreign affairs ministers is also likely to lock in an expanded US Marine rotation in Darwin, and potentially the deployment of more US aircraft including nuclear-capable B-52 bombers.

    “The trajectory of the American presence in Australia has been growing … and that’s what we would anticipate,” Mr Marles said.

    In an exclusive interview prior to the talks in Washington DC, the Defence Minister also revealed:

    ? Cutting through the red tape of America’s arms trafficking regulations to create a “seamless defence industrial base” across the AUKUS countries was a top priority, with Mr Marles saying: “We’ve got to get it done, and we’ve got to get it done quickly.”

    ? Australia’s shipbuilding industry would be expected to build full nuclear submarines, as well as individual parts that could be exported to the US and the UK.

    ? Australian submarine officers will need to train in the US for the foreseeable future to get hands-on nuclear propulsion experience.

    Mr Marles said he hoped Australia’s nuclear submarine pathway would “crystallise” at his meeting with his American and British counterparts Lloyd Austin and Ben Wallace.

    “Our focus is on bringing the first of the nuclear submarines in as early as possible,” he said.

    He said more regular visits from American and British boats would provide invaluable experience for Australian submariners and maintenance crews, but that home-porting those vessels down under was “not where we’re at”.

    While he did not confirm whether AUSMIN would lock in the deployment of B-52s in the Northern Territory, Mr Marles pointed to US infrastructure investments at Katherine’s RAAF Base Tindal.

    He said he hoped the talks would “operationalise the alliance” which had “never been in better shape”.

    “We feel, as I hope they feel, that there is an opportunity right now to grab in terms of the closeness of the two governments and the willingness to do things together,” Mr Marles said.

  105. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    And that’s it from me. Off to hunt and gather a Christmas turkey and ham.
    Wish me luck as I enter the wilds of deepest, darkest Colesworths.

    With neither of the duo now using in-house butchery services I’ve noticed that both my local ones have very little choice .. shelf space allocated to hams/turkeys in both stores doesn’t allow for more than a mixed 2 dozen choices on display …….

  106. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    A barrister opines:

    Mr Connolly echoed the comments of other lawyers that Mr Drumgold’s public statements on the merits of the case were “entirely improper” and that it was “a sad day for the rule of law”.

    “Prosecutors speak in court through the cases they make and not through media re cases they abandon. In any serious first-world jurisdiction, Drumgold’s position would be untenable.”

    Read the last sentence again: there’s a clue in there.

  107. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    But he said home-porting US submarines in Australia was “not the answer” to covering any capability gap that emerged before our boats were in service.

    Gotta laff! .. they issue this sort of statement to imply that having our own nuclear subs is just around the corner … reality is we won’t see an Oz nuclear sub in the majority of folk alive today’s lifetimes .. if ever .. LOL!

  108. Black Ball Avatar
    Black Ball

    Correct me if I am wrong please.
    The submarines that Australia signed up to through AUKUS won’t be ready for 20 years. In the meantime, China patrols our coastline for whatever reason without deterrence.
    If we were to have these subs based wherever, would China continue this behaviour?
    In my mind, it’s a no brainer. American naval personnel can train our guys whilst we wait, and wait, and wait until our vessels are constructed.

  109. Fair Shake Avatar

    Mark Green, 44, has spent the past 10 years working hard in South Australia after he, wife Kelly and daughter Rebecca were urged to emigrate from Scotland so Mr Green could work here as an electrician.

    Only time I will ever support the Greens.

  110. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    The submarines that Australia signed up to through AUKUS won’t be ready for 20 years

    Beyond ridiculous. In the interminable interim we’ll remain completely dependent on the US, which is not an appetising proposition.

  111. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    In any serious first-world jurisdiction, Drumgold’s position would be untenable.”

    Read the last sentence again: there’s a clue in there.

    Yep. On Outsiders on Sunday morning, Professor James Allan was scathing of Dumgold, and the ACT and Victorian legal jurisdictions. He compared them to uber woke Canada, and he said that there’d be no way in Canada that Drumgold would be getting away with what he said last Friday, there’d be universal condemnation and censure. As Allan said, whilst Canada might be woker than Australia in many respects, there’s still respect for common law.

    What a joke Australia is now.

  112. Win Avatar
    Win

    There seems to be universal condemnation of Peter Dutton. We should remember it was Dutton who pulled the rug on Turnbull. Dutton will never be heard in the MSM other than as an attack ,add attacks from his side it’s just not worth his while to expose himself and his family to this universal harassment and vilification.

  113. Black Ball Avatar
    Black Ball

    Been a while since I read Terry McCrann. Here tis, from the Hun:

    Just exactly how many billions – indeed, tens of billions – of dollars is Victoria’s re-elected Great Leader Dan Andrews proposing to add to the state’s debt, already heading for $200bn, on the way to $400bn, by bringing back the State Electricity Commission?

    The question is brought into very stark relief by NBN finally ‘fessing up to the fact that $31bn of the $44bn spent on the network so far, has been – if you’ll excuse the technical jargon – flushed straight down the toilet.

    Now true, venturing deep into Monty Python Dead Parrot territory. You know, the parrot isn’t dead, it’s just resting. The NBN hasn’t actually written off the $31bn as unrecoverable, but placed it in fiscal limbo until 2040.

    It’s a marvellous idea that every citizen should be able to use for – I dunno – electricity and gas bills? I’m not failing to pay them right now; just suspending repayment until after 2040.

    In the real world, NBN has spent $44bn. The $31bn might be physically in the ground but it’s also gone down the fiscal toilet. In simple terms, if the government tried to sell the NBN, a rational buyer would only be prepared to pay $13bn, tops.

    Let me hasten to add, I most absolutely do not want it to be sold. Despite the overspend – indeed, in large part precisely because of the overspend – we now have what is arguably the primary 21st century national asset and it must remain in public ownership.

    That said, it – especially in the form originally thought up and detailed on the back of a drinks coaster during a VIP government flight – should be the most explicit warning of the fiscal idiocy of marrying a good idea with supposed new technology and seemingly unlimited public (borrowed) money.

    But just as the awful fiscal reality of the NBN surfaces, we get the Victorian government proposing to do it all again: pour billions into building supposedly great and necessary infrastructure.

    Except, in substance, it would be nothing like the old SEC, which for 60 years gave Victorians cheap, reliable and plentiful coal-generated electricity out of the Latrobe Valley.

    Now true, the old SEC had its dark side – its massive overmanning, its union and bureaucratic control, which culminated in massive cost-overruns for the last power stations built.

    In the worst of all possible worlds, Chairman Andrews proposes to bring back the bad SEC – the inefficiency; while spurning the good – the cheap, reliable and plentiful power.

    And with the same wild-eyed look as Kevin Rudd of the person that knows – and I mean, really knows – they possess the real and absolute truth, SEC 2.0 will build hundreds of wind and solar farms and presumably thousands of kilometres of powerlines.

    How much will it cost, what revenues will it generate, what are its financial metrics?

    Who knows, not excluding said Premier?

    The whole idea seems to have been dreamt up in the heat of the election campaign. It has even less financial metrics that the original NBN. There probably isn’t even a drinks coaster.

    Not that any numbers would be worth more than four-fifths of five-eighths of copulating all, anyway.

    The supposedly deep analysis of the NBN was that it would generate a return of 7 per cent – right from the start, on the entire cost of the lavish all-fibre build.

    It would be lucky to generate anything close to that on the $13bn new carrying value.

    Victoria’s debt is already heading for $200bn, before the cost of the suburban rail link, which will all-but certainly double it.

    Then add SEC 2.0 – a multibillion-dollar product of the, with apologies to Legrand and the Bergman duo, “Windmills of Dan’s Mind”.

  114. m0nty Avatar

    But a lot of those “pissweak” contents raise important ethical questions about the First Dodderer, and most importantly have been confirmed by others involved.

    Mm hmm, Important Ethical Questions. Harrumph, oh yes indeed, ho ho, Important.

    Luckily, Biden was running against Trump who is a walking ethics violation. All he had to do was beat the guy who paid off a porn star to keep schtum about a quick root while his third wife was suckling their newborn… using money from a Russian-financed slush fund… mere weeks before an election. Ethics LOL.

  115. Zipster Avatar

    These people are really brainy to come up with such ideas. Maybe they could also tell us how to pay for the electricity?

    onlyfans?

  116. Zipster Avatar

    Germans go nuts about once a century. We’re right in the middle of the latest attack of madness.

    its not just germans, the woke neo-marxists are frog marching us into a dystopian Logan’s Run Totalitarian type of future.

  117. calli Avatar
    calli

    Back from the jungle. Pith helmet and blunderbuss resting on the hallstand.

    On hams…my son buys a ham from Churchill’s. Costs a small fortune…and he expects me to carve it. I drew the line and told him that as the hunter/gatherer he should do the job. And, with supervision, he has learned the art of ecky carve.

    However, the ham is no different in taste from the one I buy at Colesworths. In fact, mine is better – it is baked again with a home made cumquat glaze and studded with cloves.

    I haven’t roasted a turkey in years. Again, I buy the biggest pre-roasted buffet I can find and carve it up – the little ones love the stubby wings. No one ever wanted the drumsticks and I used to have a heap of meat left over.

  118. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Nothing to celebrate from population growth since its most mostly third word by people competing for little resources and opportunities. Socialism feeds off desperation real and emagined.

  119. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    Luckily, Biden was running against Trump who is a walking ethics violation.

    Arguably quite true.
    Very lucky for Team Biden.

  120. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    There seems to be universal condemnation of Peter Dutton.

    I said if he can’t make hay out of Labor’s predicament he’s not worth his salt.

    That’s not yet a condemnation.

  121. m0nty Avatar

    Sure, the contents were ‘so inconsequential’ they lined up several former heads of alphabet agencies to lie about it, censored its discussion on social media, and used the msm to continuously undermine it by propagating lies about ‘Russian hacking’ when not ignoring it. Dear oh dear.

    Like I said, Hillary’s emails ended up being risotto recipes and other such non-events, but the Republicans managed to confect it into an international outrage through a combination of fooling public officials and Russian bots amplifying lies on social media.

    Once burned, twice shy.

  122. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    National Brontosaurus Network Network* finally ‘fessing up to the fact that $31bn of the $44bn spent on the network so far, has been – if you’ll excuse the technical jargon – flushed straight down the toilet

    What a clusterf*ck – Rudd and Conroy both deserve to be languishing in gaol.

    *AKA “NBN Network”

  123. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Germans go nuts about once a century. We’re right in the middle of the latest attack of madness.

    Given that Germany has only existed since 1871 it averages out at c. every 75 years.

    Which means we’re about due.

    Only their target this time appears to be themselves.

  124. m0nty Avatar

    Trump, in a pair of posts on Truth Social, responded to the fallout from his comments on Saturday that the 2020 election should be redone or he should be put back in office. The former president weighed in after internal Twitter communications showed company officials deciding to limit the spread of posts about allegations against Hunter Biden, President’s Biden’s son, in the closing weeks of the 2020 campaign.

    “The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution. This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES, just like RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, and all of their other HOAXES & SCAMS,” Trump wrote Monday afternoon, saying he meant that “steps must be immediately taken to RIGHT THE WRONG.”

    In a separate, all-capitalized post, Trump wrote that “if an election is irrefutably fraudulent, it should go to the rightful winner or, at a minimum, be redone. Where open and blatant fraud is involved, there should be no time limit for change!”

    So he doesn’t want to terminate the whole constitution, just all the bits about democracy. Riiiiight.

  125. calli Avatar
    calli

    On LadySusanGate…yes, I realise it’s a distraction, but it’s a manifestation of a deep malaise within the UK, and it seems worldwide too.

    Race baiting is nothing new, but it has become an art form, and a ridiculous one at that. If there is so much “racism” in the UK, do the “victims” ever reflect on that fact that they are actually there, have been invited there and permitted to stay and have had every sort of help from government and local communities? If it’s so horrible, why the hell do they stay? Why not go “home” to the Caribbean or wherever where they’ll feel more comfortable?

    I know why. It’s called Social Services and running water and medical treatment and education and good jobs and a life that others back home can only dream about.

    Despicable t*rds.

  126. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Lucky Donald Trump ran against Hillary Clinton who was and remains a walking ethics violation.

  127. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    No one ever wanted the drumsticks and I used to have a heap of meat left over.

    Turkeys are hateful things.
    They mock you from Boxing Day to Twelfth Night.

    Even delicious, but vast, hams eventually outstay their welcome.

  128. m0nty Avatar

    Lucky Donald Trump ran against Hillary Clinton who was and remains a walking ethics violation.

    He got very lucky in 2016, yep.

  129. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    What a clusterf*ck – Rudd and Conroy both deserve to be languishing in gaol.

    NBN, NDIS, border security, pink batts… now basically the same mob are at it again.

  130. Zyconoclast Avatar
    Zyconoclast

    CNN— Firearm deaths surged in the US during the Covid-19 pandemic, killing a record number of people in 2021. But as America’s gun epidemic gets worse, its burden is not equal.

    Homicide rates among Black and Hispanic men were highest in the 20 to 24 age group. But for White men, the rate was highest in the 30 to 34 age group. When comparing these groups, the homicide rate was nearly four times higher among young Hispanic men compared with White men, and the homicide rate among young Black men was a staggering 22 times higher than among White men.

  131. Zipster Avatar

    https://www.arup.com/perspectives/publications/research/section/the-future-of-urban-consumption-in-a-1-5c-world

    reposting this. read what the plan is to reduce cars to zero, dairy and meat to zero and only 3 items of clothing per year. 1 short haul flight every 3 years. and 190 cars per 1000 people. there the solution to EVs on the grid, reduce private car ownership by 75%

    mutely is weak kneed with excitement at the prospect of being under this form of jackboot fascism.

  132. Zipster Avatar

    https://www.c40.org/cities/

    including Sydney, Melbourne Auckland have signed a suicide pact to turn us into a dystopian Totalitarian Fascism

  133. Bear Necessities Avatar
    Bear Necessities

    Dutton is no Abbott. Abbott was a Rhodes scholar at Oxford, Dutton is an ex Qld cop for whats that worth. Yep the Liars will self-destruct (as usual, possibly spectacularly. Certainly taking thousands of people and small businesses with them.) It feels like one of those situations where the next Lieboral PM might not even be in the Parliament. We’ll see.

    I’m unsure about Dutton. The only thing going for him is that he holds Dickson and has for about 20 years. Dickson has always been marginal. It is very middle class which probably has kept his ideology grounded in realism most of the time. Whether he has the guts to move climate policy to more realistic alternatives like coal fired power stations I’m not too sure. No need for nuclear energy in the mix.

  134. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    On LadySusanGate…yes, I realise it’s a distraction, but it’s a manifestation of a deep malaise within the UK, and it seems worldwide too.

    Every instance can be portrayed like that meanwhile the rot has metastasized unnoticed.
    Bread & circuses.

  135. Zyconoclast Avatar
    Zyconoclast

    What a clusterf*ck – Rudd and Conroy both deserve to be languishing in gaol.
    NBN, NDIS, border security, pink batts… now basically the same mob are at it again.

    Abbott-Maocolm-SloMo had about 10 years to sort this out.
    Either left it alone or made it worse.

  136. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Dutton will be tapped on the shoulder about 9 months out from the next election. He’s ‘far-right’ and ‘unelectable’ doncha know?

    I’d say a high chance that the Libs will try to find a woman to be the new leader, given the Teals are almost entirely wymminses. Unfortunately I can’t think of any Lib women who have any presence, and all the ones I have seen are wetter than an ocean. So the Libs will go down, once again, in another landslide for the ALP, as the conservative base stays away.

  137. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    On hams…my son buys a ham from Churchill’s. Costs a small fortune…

    Churchill’s, eh?

    Japanese Berkshire pork at an exorbitant price only Sydnesiders would pay.

  138. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Abbott-Maocolm-SloMo had about 10 years to sort this out.

    Well they fixed border security; they flew them in instead.

  139. Anders Avatar
    Anders

    In a separate, all-capitalized post, Trump wrote that “if an election is irrefutably fraudulent, it should go to the rightful winner or, at a minimum, be redone.

    1,000 ballots going missing in WA had the whole senate election redone, how dare Trump want the same standards we have for our elections.

  140. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    Like I said, Hillary’s emails ended up being risotto recipes and other such non-events

    Guccifer would beg to differ.
    Most favourable interpretation: Clinton was a disinterested, low IQ, technophobe, facilitated by fluffers and enablers in her personal entourage.

  141. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    He (Monty) doesn’t need to explain, it’s in the DemonRat Talking Points, so it must be true.

    The talking points are not meant to prove anything, but to drown out any other opinion. Monty’s problem is coming here with them but not having the benefit of a swarm of others to keep repeating it with him. So, unlike the MSM or the censored Twitter the talking point can be analysed and discussed.

    And that is like sulphuric acid.

  142. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    Munty,
    Where in the US Constitution does it mention democracy? It does however mention elections.

    You obviously haven’t read Marx/Engels/Luxembourg/Lenin/Hitler who all warn us not to confuse elections with democracy.

  143. m0nty Avatar

    Dutton will be tapped on the shoulder about 9 months out from the next election. He’s ‘far-right’ and ‘unelectable’ doncha know?

    I’d say a high chance that the Libs will try to find a woman to be the new leader, given the Teals are almost entirely wymminses. Unfortunately I can’t think of any Lib women who have any presence, and all the ones I have seen are wetter than an ocean. So the Libs will go down, once again, in another landslide for the ALP, as the conservative base stays away.

    The identity of the leader is somewhat important but I’d be more interested in hearing about policy changes. Are there going to be any real concessions to the green/teal wave, or do the Libs just ignore the electorate and become irrelevant?

    The Libs need to get some work done on their platform. Not seeing any discussion of such.

  144. Zyconoclast Avatar
    Zyconoclast

    if the government tried to sell the NBN, a rational buyer would only be prepared to pay $13bn, tops.

    From 2014

    Telstra will hand over ownership of its copper and hybrid fibre-coaxial networks while remaining committed to its structural separation under renegotiated definitive agreements with NBN Co that retain the $11 billion value of the 2011 deal.

    Telstra and Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull today announced the re-signing of the landmark deal, which will see NBN Co continue to pay Telstra $5 billion in infrastructure payments, $4 billion in disconnection payments and $2 billion in Commonwealth agreements.

  145. m0nty Avatar

    Guccifer would beg to differ.

    Guccifer 2.0 (not to be confused with the Bush-era original) is a fake identity used by Russian spooks, you idiot.

  146. calli Avatar
    calli

    Couldn’t use a desktop computer? And it wanted to be President?

    I bet she can’t wipe her own bum either.

  147. m0nty Avatar

    Munty,
    Where in the US Constitution does it mention democracy? It does however mention elections.

    You obviously haven’t read Marx/Engels/Luxembourg/Lenin/Hitler who all warn us not to confuse elections with democracy.

    Stalin, you forgot Stalin. Might as well complete the set, especially since there is a lot of Stalinism expressed among Cats these days.

  148. calli Avatar
    calli

    Ooooooooh. Spoooooooks.

    It all makes sense now.

    Can we have some flamers too?

  149. alwaysright Avatar
    alwaysright

    Maybe they could also tell us how to pay for the electricity?

    It’s bad when you see people roaming the shopping centres looking for an unguarded power socket.

  150. Zipster Avatar

    Lucky Donald Trump ran against Hillary Clinton who was and remains a walking ethics violation.

    Clintons are just outright crooks same as the Biden Crime family

  151. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    The other problem with Hillary’s emails (Bleachbit is your friend!) is the server was in their bathroom and quite insecure. At least five foreign intelligence agencies are known to’ve accessed it. Plus her phone was outside the SecState secure phone system. The irony is if she had stuff to hide, which she did, it was only hidden from Americans, since every major foreign actor had access to everything.

    I’m wondering when the poor laptop repairman is going join Seth Rich and that nice Mr Epstein in committing Arkancide.

  152. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    Stalin, you forgot Stalin. Might as well complete the set, especially since there is a lot of Stalinism expressed among Cats these days.

    How so?

  153. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    The BOM’s tin ear (following the recent ‘rebranding’ debacle continues:

    The Bureau of Meteorology has defended its decision to replace expert forecasters in local radio crosses with “science communicators” in a move lambasted by the National Farmers Federation.

    The ABC understands the BOM will soon rollout a legion of spokespeople, known as community information officers, to take over on-air weather reporting currently conducted by meteorologists. 

    BOM meteorologists currently conduct nearly 700 scheduled local radio crosses each week.

    The BOM wouldn’t confirm when the new officers would take over all on-air responsibilities.

    However, in a statement, a spokesperson said the community information officers would draw from the same information currently used to support radio crosses. 

    “Everyone delivering radio crosses draws on local information and is fully briefed on local weather issues,” the spokesperson said. 

    Gippsland resident Lisa Ross said she was worried about the loss of expert information during events such as natural disasters. 

    “We were in the 2009 Black Saturday fires and the first thing that went was the power, so if that goes we lose internet,” Ms Ross said.  

    “So the only thing we can listen to is the radio.”

    She said she wanted information from a professional about what was happening in her area.

    “What if it’s a life or death situation,” she said.

    “How am I going to get information out of someone who is just reading notes about the weather?”

    What in-house focus group of manbuns came up with this nonsense? They are so out of touch, it could only have come from the inner city. ‘Science communicators’ indeed.

    Bet they are wearing manbuns, too.

  154. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    Indian Chief ‘Two Eagles’ was asked by a white government official “You have observed the white man for 90 years. You’ve seen his wars and his technological advances. You’ve seen his progress, and the damage he’s done”.

    The Chief nodded in agreement.

    The official continued “Considering all these events, in your opinion, where did the white man go wrong?”

    The Chief stared at the government official for over a minute and then calmly replied. “When white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women did all the work, Medicine man free. Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing; all night having sex”. Then the chief leaned back and smiled. “Only white man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that”.

  155. calli Avatar
    calli

    The Russian Spook Site was very kind to Clinton. Maybe they’re on her side. Maybe the risotto recipes tipped them favourably in her direction. Much nicer than borscht.

  156. alwaysright Avatar
    alwaysright

    The Libs need to get some work done on their platform.

    No.
    They need to go to the ABCess, commercial TV and radio, twatter, etc. and say “how much do we need to pay for you to swap sides?”

  157. Speedbox Avatar
    Speedbox

    Cassie of Sydneysays:
    December 6, 2022 at 10:26 am
    What a joke Australia is now.

    Just now?

  158. Zipster Avatar

    DOD reveals bombshell report on Afghanistan withdrawal

    Biden gifted china access to high tech US military gear and afghan resources. TRAITOR

  159. dover0beach Avatar

    Go ahead and explain how you would go about devising a study with the precision required. Would you lock people in the exact position not allowing them to move, ensuring they inhale and exhale with equal force across different parts of the study? How would you do this? As I said, it’s impossible for falsify and we therefore have to accept hunches at times.

    JC you keep talking about a problem about precision where there is none. All we need to know is how effective masks are in a particular use case. Talking about people needing to be in the ‘exact position not allowing them to move, ensuring they inhale and exhale with equal force’ is ridiculous and pointless as these conditions never obtain in this or that use case so it’s pointless applying this to the test when it’s not available in practice. Same is true in pharma trials.

  160. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Are there going to be any real concessions to the green/teal wave…

    Dutton’s already said he’d form a minority government with Teal support.

    That being said, your Teal wave could, by the next election, be sucked out over the horizon, to be followed by a tsunami of voter anger if Elbow doesn’t get cost of living under control.

  161. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    A rich Arab walks into a crowded bar and is about to order a drink, when he sees a guy close by wearing a Jewish cap, a prayer shawl and traditional locks of hair.

    He doesn’t have to be an Einstein to know that this guy is Jewish. So, he shouts over to the bartender so loudly that everyone can hear “Drinks for everyone in here, bartender, but not for the Jew over there”.

    Soon after the drinks have been handed out, the Jew gives him a big smile, waves at him, then says “Thank you!” in an equally loud voice.

    This infuriates the Arab.

    He once again loudly orders drinks for everyone except the Jew. As before, this does not seem to bother the Jewish guy.

    He continues to smile, and again yells “Thank you!”

    He does this once again for the third time, but not for the Jew again.

    The Arab gets real cranky so he asks the bartender “What the hell is the matter with that Jew? I have ordered three rounds of drinks for everyone in the bar, all 200 of them, except him and all the silly bugger does is smile and thank me. Is he nuts?”

    “Nope” replies the bartender. “He owns the place”.

  162. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Lot of volcanoes erupting at the moment, in Chile, Hawaii and Indonesia. You see, this is proof of climate change.

  163. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    It is impossible to live a pleasant life without living wisely and well and justly. And it is impossible to live wisely and well and justly without living a pleasant life.

    – Epicurus

  164. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    The entire idea that Putin wanted Trump to win is and always was ridiculous.

    I do remember hearing him say something along the lines of him saying so publicly – but it was pretty obviously intended to make Trump less appealing by association. Putin knew people on the right didn’t like or trust him.

    Like Obama, Biden has enabled Putin to resume his grand vision of a Russia re-born. He did it during Obama’s tenure and he is doing it under Biden. He was conspicuously restrained during Trump’s Presidency.

    Biden could not have done a better job dancing on Putin’s string if he had known about it. American economy languishing, Europe’s people desperate for energy but their leaders unable and unwilling to back down from their previous bellicosity, NATO relations strained, European and US arms stockpiles depleted – letting that muppet Zelensky linger on in Ukraine (rather than going all out once and for all) has the delicious effect of keeping the West squandering its resources.

    Biden is the gift that just keeps giving.

  165. sfw Avatar
    sfw

    “I think Abbott was a very good opposition leader.” True, he was brilliant, as Pm though….. I do love how his true fans blame Turnbull for Abbotts fall, Turnbull didn’t help but Abbott created the conditions.

    Grey Ranga – “Being opposition leader is easy”, maybe but Matthew Guy couldn’t do it and neither could his predecessor. I don’t think it’s easy, much hard work and grit is required, you have to make the gov accountable and when you have almost the same policies as the gov that’s virtually impossible.

  166. alwaysright Avatar
    alwaysright

    joking of course

  167. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “That being said, your Teal wave could, by the next election, be sucked out over the horizon, to be followed by a tsunami of voter anger if Elbow doesn’t get cost of living under control.”

    I suspect half of the Teal seats will be reclaimed by the Liberals at the next election. I suspect Curtin will be reclaimed by the Liberals. What concerns me is if the Liberal Party pursues policies designed solely at winning back those Teal seats, rather it should be developing policies aimed at winning votes in middle and working Australia.

  168. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    Cassie of Sydneysays:
    December 6, 2022 at 11:11 am
    Lot of volcanoes erupting at the moment, in Chile, Hawaii and Indonesia. You see, this is proof of climate change.

    Yes, and those Volcanoes and Earthquakes don’t seem to follow the UN’s narrative…………..lol.

  169. dover0beach Avatar

    We had Hallward Hughes telling us yesterday there was a study from the 80s showing masks didn’t work. His own stupid link showed this was untrue. Unmasked works if people don’t talk, according to that meathead’s own study. Not talking in a hospital setting? Imagine how everyone in the medical field would have to learn sign language in order to avoid wearing masks.

    So the simple act of breathing made no difference masked or unmasked. People prior to COVID walked around in hospitals unmasked, with masks only used during surgical procedures or in infectious/ immunosurpressed units. Given the above, I’m not even sure that talking during surgical procedures would be a problem.

  170. alwaysright Avatar
    alwaysright

    Seriously, the libs problem seems to start somewhere around their pre-selection process.
    tell me I’m wrong.

  171. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    A woman is cooking eggs in the kitchen when her husband comes running in. Immediately, he sees the eggs and gasps in horror.

    “Be careful! CAREFUL! Put in some more butter! Oh, my GOSH!”

    The wife, startled at her husband’s violent reaction, dashes to the fridge to get some butter.

    “You’re cooking too many at once. TOO MANY! Turn them! TURN THEM NOW!”

    The wife, concerned by the status of her husband’s mental state, forgets about the butter and goes running to the eggs.

    “WE NEED BUTTER! Are you CRAZY??? Where are we going to get the butter? They’re going to stick! HURRY!”

    The wife runs to back to the fridge.

    “CAREFUL about the eggs! CAREFUL. You NEVER listen to me when you’re cooking! Never! Turn them quickly! Oh not that quickly! Don’t you know how to cook? Are you insane? Turn the EGGS!”

    At this point, the wife starts crying, since she has no idea what to do.

    She gasps “What is WRONG with you? I know how to cook eggs”.

    The husband simply smiles and replies “I just wanted to show you what it feels like while I’m driving with you in the car” and leaves.

  172. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    Guccifer 2.0 (not to be confused with the Bush-era original) is a fake identity used by Russian spooks, you idiot.

    Guccifer (not to be confused with Guccifer 2.0) was the Obama-era original who hacked the Hildebeeste Home Server.

  173. dover0beach Avatar

    Like I said

    No, just the opposite.

  174. m0nty Avatar

    Like Obama, Biden has enabled Putin to resume his grand vision of a Russia re-born. He did it during Obama’s tenure and he is doing it under Biden. He was conspicuously restrained during Trump’s Presidency.

    Biden could not have done a better job dancing on Putin’s string if he had known about it. American economy languishing, Europe’s people desperate for energy but their leaders unable and unwilling to back down from their previous bellicosity, NATO relations strained, European and US arms stockpiles depleted – letting that muppet Zelensky linger on in Ukraine (rather than going all out once and for all) has the delicious effect of keeping the West squandering its resources.

    Biden is the gift that just keeps giving.

    Putin made a huge tactical mistake in not invading Ukraine during the previous administration. Trump would have waved him through, the ethnic cleansing would have been unchallenged, and Putin would have watermelon for dinner every night. That is a counterfactual that historians will puzzle over for decades.

    As it is, Biden has committed a very small percentage of the US military budget and has decimated Russia’s stocks. The ROI on this war for America is astonishingly good.

  175. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    Lot of volcanoes erupting at the moment, in Chile, Hawaii and Indonesia. You see, this is proof of climate change.

    Silly girl.
    It’s the warm up event to the Harrionmeghan Netflix Extravaganza.

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