Open Thread – Tue 20 Dec 2022


Rocks and Ferns in a Wood at Crossmount, John Ruskin, 1847


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H B Bear
H B Bear
December 23, 2022 4:12 pm

More geo-political observations from the basement by Major mUnty of Malmo.

cohenite
December 23, 2022 4:14 pm

Andrew gee is a woke POS. But he personifies the candidate selection problems in ostensible conservative political parties. One or 2 woke lefties can destroy them; look at kean.

Pogria
Pogria
December 23, 2022 4:14 pm

These School Administrators are in serious need of the Ceaucescu treatment.
The evil in the link needs more than law suits and bleating about rights.

Indolent
Indolent
December 23, 2022 4:16 pm
Arky
December 23, 2022 4:18 pm

dover0beach says:
December 23, 2022 at 4:15 pm
Ukraine is not Russia’s existential enemy.
They’ve certainly made themselves that now

..
Ukraine didn’t show up in convoy on the road to Moscow in February.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 23, 2022 4:19 pm

m0ntysays:
December 23, 2022 at 3:58 pm
How does this apply to Ukrainians but not Russians?

Ask a Chechen.

One of those fighting for the Russians in Ukraine?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 23, 2022 4:21 pm

m0ntysays:
December 23, 2022 at 3:59 pm
Also… Ukraine did not invade Russia with the view to wiping it out.

The US is supporting Ukraine, with the hope of destroying its influence.

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 4:23 pm

They’ve certainly made themselves that now.

That is classic abuser tactics, blaming the victim for the abuse. Way too much of that rubbish in the discourse these days. You should be better than that, db.

Putin’s problems are entirely self-inflicted. If he hadn’t started the war, he wouldn’t have put Russia in the position it is in. He gambled and lost, no one’s fault but his own.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 23, 2022 4:24 pm

Ukraine is not Russia’s existential enemy.

No, it’s more of a subcontract relationship with some ticket clipping.

Pogria
Pogria
December 23, 2022 4:25 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
December 23, 2022 4:25 pm

Lysandersays:
December 23, 2022 at 4:11 pm
I’ve always contended Russia V Ukr is baddies Vs baddies with lots of grey area(s).

I, for one, can’t see why Munt (“Mr-52-Shades-of-Gender”) is so black and white on the issue.

Because that’s what the leftard talking points say? He’s not big on independent thought.

Pogria
Pogria
December 23, 2022 4:27 pm

Because we need some joy, watch the baby’s face.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 23, 2022 4:28 pm

mUnty is just cheering on the military industrial complex like a good neo-Leftist.

Rabz
December 23, 2022 4:45 pm

LOL

Version 1

DaFisk
DaFisk
December 23, 2022 4:46 pm

The US is supporting Ukraine, with the hope of destroying its influence.

And why the fuck wouldn’t they?? I mean, one of your military peer rivals starts the dumbest war in history and you DON’T send a bunch of 20-30 year old kit (which is basically free aid imo because the US doesn’t use that stuff anymore) to bleed the fuck out of them??

So called “nat cons” are the biggest whiners on earth! Start a fight for no reason, complain when your counterpart punches back twice as hard, whine about a crowd forming behind to cheer them on. Pathetic, loser cuck behaviour.

Rabz
December 23, 2022 4:47 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 4:47 pm

Heres a perfect description of governments state and federal.
https://www.city-journal.org/reign-of-the-administrators-britains-bureaucracy

Hypertrophy of rules and interference go hand in hand with anarchy and inefficiency. Those who work in the public administration or are paid from the public purse are assured of pensions of which those who do not work for it or are not paid from it can only dream: and they believe, of course, that they deserve this immense privilege, for, unlike others, they have worked all their lives for the public good rather than for private advantage. That the administrators are protected from the hazards of inflation by their index-linked pensions naturally gives the rest of the population the impression that the people are now there to serve the government, not the other way around.

Rabz
December 23, 2022 4:48 pm

Seems Jerry doesn’t want any pictures posted of him in the Puffy Shirt.

Vicki
Vicki
December 23, 2022 4:51 pm

The problem I have with many of these debates though is no matter how many statistical games they play they are still very much peering into the darkness.

Love that beautiful observation, John H: “peering into the darkness”. Indeed.

DaFisk
DaFisk
December 23, 2022 4:52 pm

Lysandersays:
December 23, 2022 at 4:11 pm
I’ve always contended Russia V Ukr is baddies Vs baddies with lots of grey area(s).

OK, what’s your strongest criticism of Putin? The worst thing you think he’s done. I’m all ears!

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 4:54 pm

[I am serious now, not trolling like before.]

without resorting to wiki

wasn’t Z installed after they got rid of the bloke before him that they didn’t like?

so, putting aside political flavours
and whether Z’s style is ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ … they got their puppet regime right where they wanted one

there’s also all the Biden, Kerry, Pelosi etc shenanigans surrounding Ukie energy markets …gas etc

been going on for a decade

Rabz
December 23, 2022 4:54 pm

err, Cats – some of you might have noticed that I’ve avoided weighing in on the Russia ‘kraine contretemps, mainly because I couldn’t give a rodent’s, but also because I’d never claim to have the requisite knowledge of what the f*ck was actually going on there (thanks, braindead lamestream meeja and every other blowhard imbecile with an agenda to push!).

Adhered to, this policy will continue to be.

As you all were. 🙂

DaFisk
DaFisk
December 23, 2022 4:54 pm

No, but it decided to become a proxy for US interests in a zone the Russians consider strategically vital. You can cry to the heavens about ‘agency’, you can say that the Russians had nothing to worry about, and so on, but the reaction to events since 2007 suggests this was a redline, and whatever limited engagement they foresaw in Feb ’22 has been set aside for a fuller engagement.

Sorry, just to confirm – you believe Putin made the correct decision to invade Ukraine, am I right?

John H.
John H.
December 23, 2022 4:56 pm

DaFisksays:
December 23, 2022 at 4:46 pm
The US is supporting Ukraine, with the hope of destroying its influence.

And why the fuck wouldn’t they?? I mean, one of your military peer rivals starts the dumbest war in history and you DON’T send a bunch of 20-30 year old kit (which is basically free aid imo because the US doesn’t use that stuff anymore) to bleed the fuck out of them??

So called “nat cons” are the biggest whiners on earth! Start a fight for no reason, complain when your counterpart punches back twice as hard, whine about a crowd forming behind to cheer them on. Pathetic, loser cuck behaviour.

The US is now sending Patriot batteries. Better to test those there than destroy due to age. Because of pitiful SEAD capability the Russians generally keep their aircraft at safe distances from Ukraine old style s300s. The Patriot batteries will require further distancing. How many premium aircraft is Putin willing to lose?

Putin sees danger everywhere. Perhaps that is a legacy of being a spy. He needs to relax. He should return to riding bare chested in the forest, playing hockey, and doing judo.

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 4:59 pm

and anyway dotty
I don’t think its control per se
reckon its more like cooperation

DaFisk
DaFisk
December 23, 2022 5:00 pm

The US is now sending Patriot batteries. Better to test those there than destroy due to age. Because of pitiful SEAD capability the Russians generally keep their aircraft at safe distances from Ukraine old style s300s. The Patriot batteries will require further distancing. How many premium aircraft is Putin willing to lose?

The US military is, conservatively, about 2 generations ahead of its “peer” rivals. If Putin were ever so dumb to engage NATO directly, there would be Polish troops in the suburbs of Moscow within a week.

Vicki
Vicki
December 23, 2022 5:00 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 5:00 pm

Rabz

Adhered to, this policy will continue to be.

Nobody likes neutrals…

Im in the vile and icky baddies Vs the other more pedestrian grisfer baddies camp.
The only side Im sympathetic too is the poor conscripts on both sides.

Arky
December 23, 2022 5:00 pm

No, but it decided to become a proxy for US interests in a zone the Russians consider strategically vital.

..
Blah blah, whine whine.
Sick of hearing this shit.
Australia, if you had not noticed, is in a similar relationship with the US.
Thankfully.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 5:06 pm

If Putin were ever so dumb to engage NATO directly, there would be Polish troops in the suburbs of Moscow within a week.

Ive been re-reading this series just in case of that eventuality.

DaFisk
DaFisk
December 23, 2022 5:09 pm

I wouldn’t know if it was ‘correct’.

But you yourself have claimed that Ukraine breached a “red line”. Surely that warrants a military response.

Arky
December 23, 2022 5:10 pm

It used to just be the worst, most hippy dippy brain dead sections of the left that viewed US foreign policy as a conspiracy and blathered on about the “military industrial complex”.

Rabz
December 23, 2022 5:11 pm

For Deep State Military Industrial Complex warmongers everywhere …

“Come with us back to those inglorious days when heroes were not zeroes”

“Before fair was square and global news featured imbeciles such as Casper the Defensive Weinberger, Attila the Haig and George “Papa Doc” Bush*.”

“They don’t know if they want to be Matt Dillon or Bob Dylan, they don’t know if they want to be diplomats or continue the same policy of nookular nightmare diplomacy** …”

“Selling wars, door to door …”

I just want them and their monstrous ilk to get offa my planet by Sundown, I tells ya!

*History’s most famous purveyor of the economic hypothesis known as “Voodoo Economics”.

**Ring any bells, anyone – Fiskables?

Rabz
December 23, 2022 5:12 pm

Arks with his finger on the pulse, again … 🙂

Rabz
December 23, 2022 5:15 pm

The only side I’m sympathetic too is the poor conscripts on both sides

Exactly, mole – the entire debacle is an absolute sh*tshow fustercluck … 😕

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 23, 2022 5:17 pm

‘Dishonourable’: Chester calls for Gee’s resignation
Laura Placella
LAURA PLACELLA

Nationals MP Darren Chester has called on his former colleague Andrew Gee to resign from parliament and trigger a by-election, saying it was not very honourable of him to “run off and become independent”.

Mr Chester, speaking on ABC, said Mr Gee’s decision to leave the party was “disappointing”.

“The honourable thing to do is actually to stand down from parliament, let the people of Calare decide whether they want him as an independent or whether they want a National Party MP or a Liberal MP or a Labor MP,” he said.

“I think just taking the seat and running off and becoming independent is not the most honourable thing to do.”

Mr Chester said Mr Gee would have been allowed to cross the floor and vote with the federal government on the Voice.

“Mr Gee could easily have voted in accordance with his own conscience, as the Nationals have many times in the past, many National MPs have voted different to the party in the past. Barnaby Joyce I think crossed the floor more than 20 times during the Howard government. I think crossing the floor was part of Barnaby’s exercise regime in those days,” Mr Chester said.

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 5:17 pm

And another one – this time an Australian ABC journalist.

Sweet! I wish every single one of our treacherous media class a chest full of myocarditis.

You mindlessly shilled for this shit, now you can suffer the consequences.

Arky
December 23, 2022 5:17 pm

When I can copy and paste your comment next to one from Numbers Bob circa 2005, and there is no way disquisition one from the other, that’s a problem.
You’re a whisker away from stuff like “If it’s Boeing, I’m not going”, or “Septic tanks”.

Arky
December 23, 2022 5:18 pm

Disquisition?
Where did that come from?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 5:18 pm

Arky

If you look at the way America has treated most of its “allies” over the last 50 or so years they are either the universes most incompetent (though Vlad it trying for the title) military per billion spent, or the spending of the billions is the objective.

Lets go over to the pro-Western Afghans for comment!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 5:22 pm

Nobody expects the Spanish Disquisition!

I think thats where they take you away and burn you at the stake for believing in Jesus.

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 5:23 pm

It used to just be the worst, most hippy dippy brain dead sections of the left that viewed US foreign policy as a conspiracy and blathered on about the “military industrial complex”.

Now they all have part time sales gigs with Raytheon. Just look at our little Munty go!

Rabz
December 23, 2022 5:23 pm

When I can copy and paste your comment next to one from Syphilis Spudpeeler circa 2005

Then my work here is done, Squire. 🙂

Rabz
December 23, 2022 5:26 pm

I wish every single one of our treacherous media class a chest full of myocarditis

Karma is such a female dogue.

Oh – and zero sympathy, you hitlerist monsters.

DaFisk
DaFisk
December 23, 2022 5:27 pm

No, I said that Russia claimed Ukraine was a redline; so, if, as you say, that warrants a military response, we should not be surprised that Russia has developed one.

I take it you also don’t have an opinion on whether Ukraine should enter negotiations with Putin on a ceasefire?

miltonf
miltonf
December 23, 2022 5:30 pm

It used to just be the worst, most hippy dippy brain dead sections of the left that viewed US foreign policy as a conspiracy and blathered on about the “military industrial complex”.

Term was coined by Eisenhower you idiot

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 23, 2022 5:30 pm

Now they all have part time sales gigs with Raytheon.

With 10% for the Big Guy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 23, 2022 5:32 pm

The only side I’m sympathetic too is the poor conscripts on both sides

Visiting Vietnam in 2013, we were told that the fee to have your children exempted from conscription was 15,000 dollars – U.S. No -one was interested in Vietnamese Dong. Be interesting to know if the Soviets have a similar lurk?

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 23, 2022 5:35 pm

Pubs around Australia 5pm you would be hard pressed to find a more knowledgeable group of men. Accountants, builders, farmers, bus drivers, sparkies, water commission blokes, here I find you learn more than anything you watch on TV. It’s fascinating to hear the discussions.

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 5:38 pm

No, I said that Russia claimed Ukraine was a redline; so, if, as you say, that warrants a military response, we should not be surprised that Russia has developed one.

Ukraine’s very existence was a red line, evidently. How dare they breathe good Russian oxygen! Putin had no other option than to start a war invoking the memory of Peter the Great to exhume the Russian Empire… but lose badly enough that he’s now worried about becoming Kaiser Wilhelm II.

Russian justification for the war makes no sense at all on any level. I suppose you can say that’s a Captain Hindsight statement, but Putin now looks like a fool who drank his own bathwater, believing that he was going to waltz into Kyiv as a liberator. He was poorly advised and surrounded by corruption, but that is entirely on him too as he long ago gutted the effectiveness of the Russian government to consolidate his own power.

Arky
December 23, 2022 5:39 pm

thefrollickingmole says:
December 23, 2022 at 5:18 pm
Arky

If you look at the way America has treated most of its “allies” over the last 50 or so years they are either the universes most incompetent (though Vlad it trying for the title) military per billion spent, or the spending of the billions is the objective

..
This is a complaint that goes back to WW2, and the “Overpaid, oversexed and over here”.
Nothing different, except who is making the complaints.
As for the “10% for the big guy”, everywhere and everything is always corrupt. I have worked in: Racing, army, teaching, the waste industry, aluminium extrusion, taxis, and dairy to name a few. All of them had corruption. All of them had shady characters doing illegal shit. Everything is corrupt. Pointing out specific instances of corruption anywhere in a thing doesn’t make that entire thing a waste of time.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 23, 2022 5:41 pm

Complex life? Would we recognise it if we saw it. This is our idea of complex. In the physical world we have 3 states. Plus plasma. We have sublimation and tri point of substances. We have life living in acid at impossible temperatures in hydrothermal plumes. Life as we know it has existed for such a short time the next more complex life form has not emerged from what it considers to be the primordial ooze left by us in another 100 million years. So long and thanks for all the fish.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 23, 2022 5:42 pm

Boambee, it should be perfectly obvious that Ukrainians are most enthusiastic about fighting the Russians and will continue doing so regardless of what any outsiders think.
Well, they’ll certainly stop when they are all dead.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 23, 2022 5:43 pm

If you go to Canberra, be aware that everything there has been built with money looted from the Australian taxpayers.
I felt ill when I saw it in 1990.

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 5:44 pm

Melbourne is grey, grubby and smells of vomit.

the joint is a …

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 5:46 pm

wtf?
who’s that flog up-thread calling himself Doomlord ?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 23, 2022 5:49 pm

Given we’re close to producing AI ourselves it suggests machine civilizations are quite feasible. They’d have the advantage of being much less bound to suitable planetary conditions and also less manacled by time – which is our biggest issue with interstellar travel.

Meanwhile since it’s Christmas:

Boston Dynamics’ Creepy Robo-Hounds Decorate A Christmas Tree (23 Dec)

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 23, 2022 5:55 pm

‘Dishonourable’: Chester calls for Gee’s resignation

Whoa, this is gonna get nasty. Chester has bone to pick and it is likely because Gee swapped sides to depose McCormick robbing Chester of his ministry. Popcorn anyone.

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 5:55 pm

Zelensky has no choice

Z had many many choices since what, 2014?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 23, 2022 5:56 pm

who’s that flog up-thread calling himself Doomlord ?

Well since the account is called Sinclair Davidson I suspect he’s dropped in to say hi.

Happy Christmas Doomlord! Sadly blockchain stuff is getting hammered lately, but then the same happened with the railroads in the US in the mid 1800’s. Honeypots attract wasps and bears, as well as busy bee builders.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 23, 2022 5:59 pm
Real Deal
Real Deal
December 23, 2022 6:03 pm

I hope it is the real Doomlord. Would be great to have his take on things as well as the occasional “Gentlepeople, please….”

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah, Professor.

JC
JC
December 23, 2022 6:06 pm

Except the grounds were stated ad nauseum since the 90s by any number of people in and outside of Russia.

So what? That’s zero justification to be putting conditions on a sovereign state. You’re always pushing this empty barrow that makes no sense in terms of justification.

JC
JC
December 23, 2022 6:09 pm

Very funny that leadership reckons it was a bunch of hippies peddling the military industrial complex line of argument when the first person to warn against it was the former general in charge of Allied Command and later the Republican president of the US.

I guess we live in alternate realities. Some more than others.

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 6:09 pm

That’s zero justification to be putting conditions on a sovereign state.

War is what happens when Law fails

… then, the Law gets fixed

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 23, 2022 6:10 pm

Looks like Prof Davidson different avatar. Link goes to his Gmail account that was contact for the old cat. He dropped in last year too.

Merry Cristmas as well doomlord.

JC
JC
December 23, 2022 6:12 pm

There’s something deep being said there, Marv. I know there is, but I just don’t quite see it. Help us out.

Rosie
Rosie
December 23, 2022 6:18 pm

Went on an excursion to Melbourne CBD today, first time in forever, museum first (great value annual membership and discount parking to boot) walked through the gardens down to Myer having lunch at the Emporium on the way.
Nice to see a few low rise historical buildings in between the towers still.
Huge queue waiting to see the Myer Christmas windows so we didn’t hang around.
Bustling but not overcrowded and Emporium still short of tenants upstairs, we thought it was all pretty good fun.
Only saw two beggars, one in Burke Street Mall was thrilled to bits when an Asian man gave him a $50.
I’d certainly go again, especially as someone has been promised a tram ride.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 23, 2022 6:21 pm

Still waiting for the Bombers not to bomb Sinc.

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 6:21 pm

There’s something deep being said there

sure is JC

you’re seeking justification and making appeals to what is
because it suits you

…like a hysterical sheila

Johnny Rotten
December 23, 2022 6:21 pm

We’ve seen all the commercials. But what really happens when you ask for help with an erection lasting more than 4 hours? I walked into a chemist store and asked to talk to a male pharmacist. The woman I was speaking with said she was the only pharmacist and since she and her sister owned the store, there were no male employees.

She asked if she could help me. I said that I really would have preferred to speak with a male pharmacist. She assured me that she was completely professional and whatever it was that I needed to discuss, I could be confident that she would treat me with a high level of professionalism.

I reluctantly agreed and began by saying “This is tough for me to discuss, but here goes. I get erections every day that last more than four hours. This condition causes me a lot of problems and severe embarrassment. I was wondering what you could give me for it?”

The pharmacist said “Just a minute, I’ll talk to my sister”.

When she returned, she said “We discussed it at length and here’s the absolute best we can do:

-free room and board,
– 1/3 ownership in the store,
-a company pickup car,
-a king size bed and,
-$2,000 a month in living expenses”.

Cassie of Sydney
December 23, 2022 6:22 pm

“Nationals MP Darren Chester has called on his former colleague Andrew Gee to resign from parliament and trigger a by-election, saying it was not very honourable of him to “run off and become independent”.”

Chester is right. Gee ran as a National, he should do the right thing and resign and run as an independent, and we’ll see what ensues. I suspect his electorate would choose a National over him. I also reckon his electorate will vote overwhelmingly against the Voice. Gee’s resignation is rank opportunism. Not only is he giving the middle finger to the party, he’s also giving the middle finger to his constituents. Quite frankly, he’s a disgrace. If sitting members choose to resign from the party they went to an election representing, then they should be forced to a by-election.

Johnny Rotten
December 23, 2022 6:23 pm

To me, growing old is great. It’s the very best thing – considering the alternative.

– Michael Caine

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 23, 2022 6:24 pm

Rosie I was so disappointed with the museum. I thought Melbourne would have something a lot better. The same said for Sydney.

C.L.
C.L.
December 23, 2022 6:24 pm

The US and Europe are at war with Russia because it doesn’t allow gay marriage, basically. They couldn’t give a rodent’s buttock about Ukrainians. Five minutes ago, the only time Ukrainians were mentioned in the Western press was as the world’s most violent and racist soccer hooligans or as denizens of the world’s last game park for free-roaming nazis. Google it: blacks bashed by Ukrainians at the World Cup, a giant Swastika flag at a match, sieg heiling on the hill, a gay cinema burned down in Kiev.

The Western left was deeply in love with Russia for the entirety of Soviet history. The Labor Party was filled with secret admirers, members and spies – including Dr Evatt. They not only loved Stalin and his successors but they also loved the homicidal, nation-destroying causes they bankrolled. Then came the Federation, wild west anarcho-capitalism overlaid with pre-Lenin Russian mores and a recrudescence of Orthodoxy. And, of course, an alpha male leader who ordered Pussy Riot arrested, made jokes about Western pansies and shat upon Brussels at every opportunity. A new generation of leftists began to hate Russia because it wasn’t communist – like them.

This still wouldn’t have been enough for the broader left to bury the anti-Bush hatchet and start dating Bill Kristol, John Bolton and Dick Cheney. But then came the Floyd Murder Wave and the busted Russia Hoax. Uh-oh. A gigantic wedge would be needed to triangulate Trump and his followers out of the mainstream. Voila: ‘We love – er – Ukraine!

JC
JC
December 23, 2022 6:26 pm

like a hysterical sheila

Forgive me, but you’d know more about transitioning than I would Marv.

No, have no freaking idea what you’re trying to convey. None. Try and use your frontal cortex when communicating. The brain stem isn’t good for that sort of thing.

miltonf
miltonf
December 23, 2022 6:26 pm

QV Melbourne Central part of town is quite nice still. Flinders/Elizabeth and Collins/Spencer corners are vile- dirty with some fairly aggressive homeless.

JC
JC
December 23, 2022 6:28 pm

CL

Russia started the war by attacking a sovereign nation. NATO didn’t start this.

Ask the Poles what they think as they’re not eggsactly woke friendly.

Merry Christmas by the way. 🙂 love reading your site.

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 6:29 pm

Except the grounds were stated ad nauseum since the 90s by any number of people in and outside of Russia.

The grounds were always stupid. Russia was “threatened” by NATO’s expansion into nearby countries who joined NATO as a purely defensive move because they were worried about Russia invading them… thus Russia was “forced” to start invading.

To state those grounds is to refute them.

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 6:29 pm

have no freaking idea what you’re trying to convey

yet another thing to add to the list of shit I don’t care about

… now go ahead and make a complete arse of yourself as usual

Arky
December 23, 2022 6:30 pm

C.L. says:
December 23, 2022 at 6:24 pm
The US and Europe are at war with Russia because it doesn’t allow gay marriage

..
Neither does Ukraine.
The status of homosexualists is almost identical in both countries.

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 6:31 pm

CL, have you had a stroke?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 23, 2022 6:31 pm

Andrew Gee must have really shat off the Nats if Darren Chester has put the boots in. Chester is as soft as a cow pat normally.
The ABC regionals love Darren.

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 6:35 pm

Russia did exactly what the US did re the Western Hemisphere and European interventions in the Americas. Whether or not that was justified is a separate question. Nevertheless, under those circumstances, both made it clear that interventions in either sphere could be considered a hostile act. That is what is operative.

Ah yes, I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis when America annexed Cuba to become the 51st state.

Rabz
December 23, 2022 6:36 pm

the only time Ukrainians were mentioned in the Western press was as the world’s most violent and racist soccer hooligans or as denizens of the world’s last game park for free-roaming nazis

LOL, CL and all true. I saw the Sol Campbell interview at the time and was horrified.

There have been some “regrettable” comments posted here recently about national identity and those who are perceived to represent it. la Belle France, in particular.

I don’t care what hue a player is. The black players on display in European soccer are quite simply, magnificent athletes.

Remember when conservatives were allegedly in favour of merit based selection/appointments?

Arky
December 23, 2022 6:38 pm

Russia did exactly what the US did re the Western Hemisphere and European interventions in the Americas.

..
Really, you are pro Russian and you’d like Russia to follow the U.S. lead on having a bunch of communist Narco states in her “sphere”?
“Sphere of influence”. Be careful of setting that example in stone. Whose “sphere” do we belong to?

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 23, 2022 6:38 pm

Barnaby Joyce I think crossed the floor more than 20 times during the Howard government. I think crossing the floor was part of Barnaby’s exercise regime in those days,” Mr Chester said.

That’s all you need to know about Andrew Gee.
Until Nationals boot Joyce from the Party Room, the instability will never stop.

miltonf
miltonf
December 23, 2022 6:39 pm

The US and Europe are at war with Russia because it doesn’t allow gay marriage, basically.

and I think the creeps in DC just want a war- there was a bit of a drought from ’16 to ’20.

JC
JC
December 23, 2022 6:39 pm

You’re using US intervention in Europe and the America’s against communist insurgencies as a justification? This is insanity.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 23, 2022 6:39 pm

Really, you are pro Russian and you’d like Russia to follow the U.S. lead on having a bunch of communist Narco states in her “sphere”?

Ever heard of Iran/Contra?

Rabz
December 23, 2022 6:40 pm

How many affairs have I had this year?

#twominutemen

miltonf
miltonf
December 23, 2022 6:41 pm

The Ukraine also seems to be a bit of a playground for the corrupt steaming heap that is the US establishment.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 23, 2022 6:43 pm

I don’t care what hue a player is. The black players on display in European soccer are quite simply, magnificent athletes.
In other words, you do care.
Or are you going Marxist and saying Blacks are interchangeable with Whites in all circumstances?

C.L.
C.L.
December 23, 2022 6:43 pm

Russia started the war by attacking a sovereign nation. NATO didn’t start this.

This is like saying America started the war with Afghanistan in 2002 and nothing notable happened in 2001.

This “sovereign nation” – the world’s most corrupt shit-hole – was lobbing shells on Russian ex-pats, using several nazi battalions to police the east (which is to say, ethnically cleanse the east) and taking vast amounts of money from the Americans who wanted to set it up as a satrapy from which to pursue regime change in the Federation. None of the world’s imperial powers – most especially the US – would ever tolerate this. The leaders of Ukraine were not in charge of their own house and their people have paid a horrific price for being sold out by them as neo-con fantasy fodder.

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 6:48 pm

Oh, it’s Bird. Rack off, Bird.

cohenite
December 23, 2022 6:50 pm

C.L.says:
December 23, 2022 at 6:24 pm
The US and Europe are at war with Russia because it doesn’t allow gay marriage, basically

And don’t forget climate change. Puttie continually gives a big fat fuck off to the alarmists.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 23, 2022 6:52 pm

I know, I know nepotism is alive and well at the IPA.

As well as Flamerism.
Is there a single “bloke” at the IPA who’s not a freckle puncher?
Which is a conservative value. See:
Pink Swastika by Scott Lively

custard
custard
December 23, 2022 6:53 pm

Ukraine has nothing to do with NATO expansion or US state department funded bio-labs.

Oh wait!

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 6:54 pm

If You See Anyone Posting “Anti-Govt, Anti-Police, COVID Conspiracy Rhetoric” … Call Crime Stoppers

Let’s see how many times we can report Phelps!!!

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 23, 2022 6:55 pm

I don’t care what hue a player is. The black players on display in European soccer are quite simply, magnificent athletes.

Kylian Mbappe a prime example.

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 7:02 pm

apparently, according to the Herald-Sun, a new mutant strain of the coof is about to cripple us all.

sorry no link, the missus was just ranting about it.

no Christmas for you

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 7:02 pm

except rosie

…rosie gets Christmas

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 23, 2022 7:04 pm

a new mutant strain of the coof is about to cripple us all

It’ll have to stand in line behind the flu apocalypse, the RSV assault and the Strep A crisis.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 23, 2022 7:06 pm

“military industrial complex”.

Term was coined by Eisenhower you idiot

Milton, Eisenhower’s first drafts had it down as the “military-industrial-congressional complex” but it was trimmed down as being too wordy and after all, amply suggested in the subtext.

Rabz
December 23, 2022 7:07 pm

Oh, it’s Bird. Rack off, Bird.

No, it isn’t …

Johnny Rotten
December 23, 2022 7:08 pm

Doomlordsays:
December 23, 2022 at 6:45 pm
One thing I know is Sancho Panzer is a cunt. Sorry Delta, but cunt has its place.

Yes, and Mrs Stencho Pantyhose could well be one of those………………

cohenite
December 23, 2022 7:09 pm

Is there a single “bloke” at the IPA who’s not a freckle puncher?
Which is a conservative value.

I know you’re taking the piss crotchless but don’t get excited. Apart from AJ who would be a conservative poofta of note?

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 7:10 pm

except rosie

…rosie gets Christmas

A Pfizer sponsored Christmas!

Rabz
December 23, 2022 7:10 pm

JR – the personage commenting is barking mad, but not the Perfesser or the Boid.

It will all be over soon, Cats, we’re working on it.

Trust us on this …

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 23, 2022 7:14 pm

Milton, Eisenhower’s

Milton Eisenhower was a highly regarded Professor, possibly at Princeton.
There was a story that the RNC phoned Milt to see if he was interested in running with GOP support, Ike answered the phone and the rest is history.

cohenite
December 23, 2022 7:15 pm

And speaking of pooftas, this from the abc:

Constable Zachary Rolfe has launched legal action against Northern Territory Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker in a bid to have disciplinary action taken against him thrown out.

In the same piece they say:

Documents show the alleged breaches of discipline were uncovered while police were investigating Constable Rolfe for the alleged murder of 19-year-old Warlpiri-Luritja man Kumanjayi Walker in November 2019.

There is no fucking alleged murder. Rolfe was found not guilty which is why the bastards are trying to strangle him with bureaucratic wokeness. Rolfe should be after the abc for this.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 23, 2022 7:15 pm

And another one – this time an Australian ABC journalist
Facebook time stamp puts the outing of the story- read, the exact medical condition and cause- by Roussos’ sister at November 2021.
I’ve been saying for a while, when it comes to the Big Batflu News Smother, we are surrounded by useful idiots and cowards who simply did not want to know.

cohenite
December 23, 2022 7:16 pm

There was Richard Casey, McMahon, a fair few who are still alive.
Plus those 3 dorks who lost to the Teals.

None remotely conservative you crotchless dickhead.

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 7:17 pm

there was a bit of a drought from ’16 to ’20

People need to think of the Raytheon, Grumman and Lockheed shareholders!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 23, 2022 7:17 pm

Hi Graeme.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 23, 2022 7:18 pm

There is no fucking alleged murder. Rolfe was found not guilty which is why the bastards are trying to strangle him with bureaucratic wokeness.
New Evidence may be unearthed, in which case Double Jeopardy is null and void.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 23, 2022 7:19 pm

I doubt the Doomlord would have used the C word.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 23, 2022 7:19 pm

Well, who is he then?
Sylvester the Cat?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 23, 2022 7:21 pm

sitting members choose to resign from the party they went to an election representing, then they should be forced to a by-election.

Hear hear. Should be in the Standing Orders.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 23, 2022 7:21 pm

Definitely Birdy.

Dot
Dot
December 23, 2022 7:22 pm

Hi Sinclair

What do you think of the Pay-suer family?

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 23, 2022 7:22 pm

I’m thinking Sancho running a scam from the sidelines.

Johnny Rotten
December 23, 2022 7:24 pm

Every day a third grade boy walks home from school past a fourth grade girl’s house. One day he stops to taunt the little girl. He holds up the football and says “See this football? Football is a BOY’S game and girls can’t have one!”

The little girl runs in the house crying and tells her mother about the encounter. She runs out and buys the girl a football.

The next day the boy is riding home on his bike, and the girl shows him the football, yelling “Nah-na-nah-na-nah”.

The little boy gets mad and points to his bike. “See this bike? This is a BOY’S bike, and girls can’t have them!”

Next day, the boy comes by and the little girl is riding a new boy’s bike. Now he is really mad. So he drops his pants, points at his private parts, and says “You see THIS? Only BOY’S have these and your mother can’t go buy you one!”

The next day as he passes the house he asks the little girl “Well, what do you have to say NOW?” So she pulls up her dress, points to her private part and says “My mother told me that as long as I have one of these, I can have as many of THOSE as I want!”

Rabz
December 23, 2022 7:25 pm

Rabz, you horny fuck. Every weekend you get a hard-on for young girls.

Ellie, feel free to post some proof of that serious allegation.

Get a real life girl that satisfies you.

I have been, you barking mad moron …

Dot
Dot
December 23, 2022 7:25 pm

New Evidence may be unearthed, in which case Double Jeopardy is null and void.

Yes, this is eminently sensible.

Constable Rolfe really was, of course, Victor Keriakis.

Walker is actually Bo Brady and he’s made a comeback at his own funeral, atop a Harley, crashing through the window.

He’s going to reveal who the real attempted murderer is!

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 23, 2022 7:25 pm

The reason is Phelps getting back in the game.

Sancho will be looking to create a Doxxing Scandal re rosie and perhaps the other one who’s been quiet a few days.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 23, 2022 7:25 pm

Doomlord never used that word.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 23, 2022 7:26 pm

I doubt the Doomlord would have used the C word.

Conservative?

Johnny Rotten
December 23, 2022 7:26 pm

You get paid the same for a bad film as you do for a good one.

– Michael Caine

Rabz
December 23, 2022 7:27 pm

Cats – the out of control troll is a personage known as Ellie.

“Barking mad” doesn’t even come close to describing its affliction.

Ellie, fuck off now, or I invoke my moderator privileges.

No more warnings.

cohenite
December 23, 2022 7:28 pm

New Evidence may be unearthed, in which case Double Jeopardy is null and void.

Yeah, the missing bazooka and Rolfe’s KKK gear. Evidence of Rolfe’s intent is irrelevant because of the facts of the shooting. His attitude towards 3rd nations is also irrelevant. What compelling new evidence are you thinking of crotchless?

Rosie
Rosie
December 23, 2022 7:28 pm

We are going to have a lovely Christmas thank you.
Two oldest grandchildren, now both two, understand its a special day, with presents.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 23, 2022 7:28 pm

New evidence like stories my auntie told me. Ed you think you’re smarter than munty but you’re not.

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 7:30 pm

there was a bit of a drought from ’16 to ’20

Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and Niger don’t count?

Rabz
December 23, 2022 7:30 pm

And yes, Cats, that escalated quicklee … 😕

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 23, 2022 7:30 pm

Makes sense Rabz. Sad to see. In fact got worse.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 23, 2022 7:31 pm

Here is the gravatar link.

I would not normally post such a link but I dislike profanity.

Apology Prof if it is you, but the account is public, so that’s fair.

Rabz
December 23, 2022 7:33 pm

I dislike profanity

Thanks, BoN, don’t we all.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 23, 2022 7:38 pm

More from Michael Caine, after he appeared in the forgettable Jaws 4 – The Revenge.
I have never seen it (Jaws 4) but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built and it is terrific.

C.L.
C.L.
December 23, 2022 7:46 pm

You’re using US intervention in Europe and the America’s against communist insurgencies as a justification? This is insanity.

JC, it’s about seeing national interest as different nations interpret what that means for themselves. It’s not about saying Russia’s view of its national interest is right or moral. The reason Putin is a small man in history – and a total failure, really – is that he had an opportunity to make something new of the Russian Federation but he didn’t. In the end, he didn’t have the skills or the vision. I don’t know anyone who seriously thinks of the Russians as the ‘goodies’ in this war. Nor do the wrongs of 2014 onward purchase for Russia the ‘right’ to invade nations or be considered the aggrieved party.

Neither does Ukraine.
The status of homosexualists is almost identical in both countries.

True, Arky, but the point I was making is accurate. Take, for example, Dominic Tierney’s much-discussed piece welcoming the left’s new attitude in The Atlantic (The Rise of the Liberal Hawks):

Russian President Vladimir Putin is the antithesis of everything the left stands for. Not only did he launch an unprovoked attack on a sovereign democratic nation, but he has also disparaged LGBTQ rights, multiculturalism, and immigration, and claimed that “the liberal idea” has “outlived its purpose.” Zelensky, in contrast, has built bridges with the global left. He addressed the Glastonbury music festival, in the U.K., where the revelers chanted his name to the tune of The White Stripes’ “Seven Nation Army.” In Germany, the Green Party led the charge to supply weapons to Kyiv, overturning decades of German wariness about intervening in foreign wars. LGBTQ protesters in Berlin also demanded that Germany step up arms shipments to Ukraine, so that a Pride parade can, one day, be held in the Russian-occupied city of Mariupol. Ukrainian liberals—artists, translators, teachers, filmmakers—have joined the struggle. As one writer put it: “All our hipsters in Ukraine fight.”

Rabz
December 23, 2022 7:51 pm

Doves – you know what to do, Squire …

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 23, 2022 7:51 pm

Follow my old motto Rabz
The good looks gets ’em in but the bullshit makes ‘em stay.

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 7:53 pm

We are going to have a lovely Christmas thank you.

new stories out of China
millions infected and dying
but but, they’re not all vaccinated because apparently the Chiner-Vax is faulty

there’s even film footage from inside the morgues.

we wont even see New Year

…well, not Chinese New Year that’s for sure

Rabz
December 23, 2022 7:53 pm

Young (too young for you) gals

And millions of cute li’l sweetees across the planet had their hearts broken, again … 🙂

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 23, 2022 7:56 pm

Not Graeme. Gotta be Ellie.

Dot
Dot
December 23, 2022 7:58 pm

Dewit. Dewit!

areff
areff
December 23, 2022 8:01 pm
m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 8:02 pm

if the grounds were stupid they wouldn’t be at war.

You are presupposing that Putin is a strategic genius. Events (dear boy) have proven that contention to be… contentious.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 23, 2022 8:10 pm

Not at all. The position was developed before Putin was even an advisor in St. Petersberg.

Thucydides trap.

His book is an excellent and fascinating read. Probably free on Gutenberg.

Arky
December 23, 2022 8:13 pm

I’m not sure why the West’s Ukraine policy is such a point of friction for us.
Not a damn thing anyone here thinks will make a shred of difference.
Assuming, which I think is pretty evident, that so much of the opinions shared originate from Moscow sponsored sites and accounts, it is still strange that the Russians would think that those influence efforts would matter a tuppenny damn. After all, even after all the actually true revelations about Biden and Clinton and the FBI are in the open, the cathedral bulldozes along completely unhindered.
Biden is a demented lech with a drug addicted car wreck of a son as his bagman. And he won.
Good luck Russians. The bullshit you are pushing isn’t going to help when the powers that be were completely unfazed by Hunter’s laptop from Hell. And that stuff was actually true.
Hell, they managed to pump heart attack inducing crap into the bodies of twenty and thirty year old folk under the guise of eighty and ninety year old’s snuffing it at a very slightly accelerated rate.
Good luck with the “But I’m your bulwark against homo marriage” line Ivan.

JC
JC
December 23, 2022 8:16 pm

I thought that piece I linked to by Taleb last evening was pretty decent. He thinks Russia is playing the 20c century in the sense its placed a border around a bunch of people who have no cultural affinity.

He brought up an excellent example suggesting Belgian French, Swiss French have no real strong affinity towards the France French. Also, there would be no justification for France to try and take over these French speaking zones.

It’s a good piece and worthwhile reading.

A Clash of Two Systems

Zipster
Zipster
December 23, 2022 8:18 pm

As one writer put it: “All our hipsters in Ukraine fight die.”

fixingly

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 8:21 pm

Not at all. The position was developed before Putin was even an advisor in St. Petersberg.

It’s one thing to state the position, quite another thing to go through with it. Iran says Israel should be wiped off the map regularly, but they don’t do anything about it.

Putin believed his own country’s bullshit.

Makka
Makka
December 23, 2022 8:22 pm

I’m not sure why the West’s Ukraine policy is such a point of friction for us.
Not a damn thing anyone here thinks will make a shred of difference.

Oh, but it is making a huge difference. To the Democrats.

All the Ukraine hoo hah and Zelinskiy show boating with The Pervert in Chief , wall to wall coverage by the MSM , is successfully diverting public attention away from the very things that will ruin the Democrats. Hunter Biden’s laptop contents that the FBI studiously ignores and the solid work done by the Democrats SS organisation aka FBI in corrupting free speech via Big tech.

JC
JC
December 23, 2022 8:25 pm

Sure, NATO is a purely defensive alliance that intervened in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, and Libya, for instance. But setting that aside, if the grounds were stupid they wouldn’t be at war.

Stop making it make up as you go along. NATO’s objective is not and has never been purely defensive.

NATO’s mission is and has always been described as Collective Security of the member and associate states.. It doesn’t mean it’s purely defensive. You shouldn’t make arguments based on incorrect premises.

What Is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)?

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) is an alliance of 30 member states from North America and Europe, created in 1949, with the goal of safeguarding the freedom and security of members through political and military means.1

NATO first strives to prevent conflict through diplomatic channels as part of the organization’s effort to promote democratic values and enable member states to solve problems peacefully. When diplomatic efforts fall short, NATO’s military might may be activated to engage in crisis management under the principle of collective defense, which states “an attack against one is an attack against all.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 23, 2022 8:27 pm

Ah yes, I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis when America annexed Cuba to become the 51st state.

If JKF had not been such a pussy that is exactly what would have happened and millions of Cubans wouldn’t have had their lives bighted by communism for more than 60 years.
Supply of any commo insurgency would have been next to impossible.

JC
JC
December 23, 2022 8:32 pm

CL

It’s true, we ( The West) didn’t give a toss about Ukraine until we did and most of us were astonished how strategically important it is in terms of the world’s food supply and some other important commods.

Rabz
December 23, 2022 8:34 pm

Thanks, Doves.

It’s not every week I get accused of lusting after (very) young aesthetically pleasing womanages … 😕

Rosie
Rosie
December 23, 2022 8:37 pm

I read that Taleb article. I did have to go and look up a couple of words though.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 23, 2022 8:38 pm

When diplomatic efforts fall short, NATO’s military might may be activated to engage in crisis management under the principle of collective defense, which states “an attack against one is an attack against all.

When did Libya attack a NATO country in 2011? Afghanistan never did attack the USA. Bin Laden did and they sheltered him AFTER 9/11. Grounds for the US to say hand him over or else and when they didn’t, grounds for a short violent visit from the Marines, break things, kill people and leave with a
“Do better next time or we’ll be back. You won’t like it.” No excuse for other NATO countries to be involved.

If it isn’t purely defensive, NATO is allowed to shoot first? Isn’t that what people are blaming Putin for?

Roger
Roger
December 23, 2022 8:38 pm

The reason Putin is a small man in history – and a total failure, really – is that he had an opportunity to make something new of the Russian Federation but he didn’t.

And Boris Johnson is the UK’s Putin, a selfish squanderer of an historic opportunity.

Sorry, off topic, but I had to throw that in.

Carry on…

Zipster
Zipster
December 23, 2022 8:38 pm
Arky
December 23, 2022 8:43 pm

Eyrie says:
December 23, 2022 at 8:38 pm

..
You got to do that stuff when you were the world’s only superpowe and your navy kept the sea lanes open and your armies were stationed everywhere protecting the peace and freedoms of billions of people.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 8:46 pm

Dr Kerryn Phelps’ wife opens up on her debilitating vaccine injury that has her unable to WALK without pain 19 months after her first Covid shot – as she issues desperate plea

. Kerryn Phelps said she and her wife suffered ‘devastating’ vaccine side effects
. Claimed medical authorities failed to follow up and censored discussion of them
. Jackie Strickler-Phelps said she was still unable to walk without pain
. Both the couple kept spruiking Covid vaccine well after adverse effects started

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 8:47 pm

Arkysays:
December 23, 2022 at 8:43 pm
Eyrie says:
December 23, 2022 at 8:38 pm

You got to do that stuff when you were the world’s only superpower and your navy kept the sea lanes open and your armies were stationed everywhere protecting the peace and freedoms of billions of people.

The British Empire?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 8:54 pm

Makkasays:
December 23, 2022 at 8:22 pm
I’m not sure why the West’s Ukraine policy is such a point of friction for us.
Not a damn thing anyone here thinks will make a shred of difference.

Oh, but it is making a huge difference. To the Democrats.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 8:56 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 23, 2022 8:59 pm

Ah geez.

There was trolling and I missed it.

Rabz
December 23, 2022 9:01 pm

Not a damn thing anyone here thinks will make a shred of difference

Gee, really Arks? One of my “work colleagues” has been displaying the ‘kranian flag on their teams personage for many, many moons now. Admittedly, he is of the ‘kranians.

Sadly, it doesn’t seem to have made a *#@&’s worth of difference.

#notgivingarodentsagain

Rabz
December 23, 2022 9:02 pm

KD – epic it was, until it wasn’t.

Rabz
December 23, 2022 9:05 pm

So how long until some Hollyweirdo makes a hard hitting schlockumentary about poor li’l ol’ SBF?

Languishing as he* is, in the same correctional facility as the one where Jeffrey Epstein did not commit suicide …

*Pronoun used advisedly, Cats 😕

Rabz
December 23, 2022 9:08 pm

Oh – and by the way, did I tells ya I’m really into beautiful young womanages? 🙂

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 9:10 pm

Cocaine Mitch Makes It Rain on Ukraine

“Providing assistance for Ukrainians to defeat the Russians is the No. 1 priority for the United States.”

Congress is considering an additional $45 billion in aid to Ukraine. For any grinches, Volodymyr Zelensky allegedly visits Washington, D.C., today to dissuade them from stealing Ukraine’s Christmas.

The $45 billion amounts to almost a third of the country’s gross domestic product prior to the Russian invasion and about $130 for every man, woman, child, demiboy, fakaleiti, pandaka, two-spirit, and alternative gender in the United States.

“Providing assistance for Ukrainians to defeat the Russians is the No. 1 priority for the United States right now according to most Republicans,” said Sen. Mitch McConnell.

Really? More so than border security? More so than shrinking government? More so than depoliticizing and defanging the Justice Department and intelligence apparatus?

Republicans want the Ukrainians to win. Do Republicans $45 billion want the Ukrainians to win?

From the Comments

– If we place Ukrainian flags on our border with Mexico, will securing take place?

– Just as Caesar’s wife (or the equivalent) should be above suspicion, the top Republican in the Senate should be above contempt. McConnell is not.

– And what do the Ukrainians have to show for all the money sent their way? A destroyed country, millions of refugees, and no hope to defeat the Russians and drive them out. Maybe they should take a new tact and find a negotiated settlement. I seem to recall the politicians telling us that Israel should trade land for peace. Fat chance. The US will fight to the last Ukrainian. The US is just sending printed dollars. The Ukrainians can provide the cannon fodder. And if nuclear war is an unintended consequence, it’s survivable don’t you know? That’s what the politicians are now telling us.

Mitch McConnell – what more is there to be said about this latest betrayal and grift? Hasn’t he done enough damage to this country and others. He can’t find any money to rebuild Florida after Ian, but he can send over $100B to Ukraine. No money for a border wall. I could go on.

What if the US minded its own business? Would the world be any worse off if not for the Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Syria, Yugoslavia, Libya, and other US incursions across the globe?

– Trump wanted $4B for the rest of the border wall. Dems said No Way and even sued to stop its construction.

$45B *additional* dollars for Ukraine’s border? No problem.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 23, 2022 9:19 pm

I was going to start chrimbo today, but the turkey is still icy inside. It will have to wait until tomorrow.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
December 23, 2022 9:29 pm

Rabz says:
December 23, 2022 at 9:08 pm

Oh – and by the way, did I tells ya I’m really into beautiful young womanages? ?

Always remember, someone, somewhere is tired of putting up with her shit.

Just saying.

If crazy hot is your thing go for it, just don’t bitch about the knife wounds in the morning mmkay

cohenite
December 23, 2022 9:29 pm

There seems to be concrete evidence that Kari was fraudulently disenfranchised.

Another line in the sand blown away by overarching demorat control of the system.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 23, 2022 9:38 pm

Always remember, someone, somewhere is tired of putting up with her shit.

Words to live by.

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 9:51 pm

I was going to start chrimbo today, but the turkey is still icy inside

xmas shenanigans

a few years ago the MiL had us all in Deni
flung from everywhere. Syd, Merimbula, various parts Melb, even Dubai
a cast of maybe 20 people

yeah, she’g got a massive turkey and chickens and ham and beef
and I wake up xmas morning and she goes, “I’ve never done a turkey before and how are we gonna do the beef and chickens with only one oven?”

bloody air-head

The missus’ cousin Linda looks at me and I look at her with a wtf-ing actual?

a quick ciggie while war-gaming at 0800 and we went back inside and told them to fuck right off out of our kitchen

even did vanilla custard as well

lunch was at 1400

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 23, 2022 9:54 pm

Well reached Melbourne, even though a) the phone nav went bung and sent us to Flinders St Station instead of Carlton, and b) we had to drive past those abominable brightly coloured metal oblongs and so on that masquerade as art.

The people opposite us have a a Ferrari and a Porsche and yet have already spotted a rat on the street.

Christmas will hopefully not look like that of the Royle Family:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKo1xeliaVk

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 10:08 pm

but the turkey is still icy inside

actually interested … exactly what are you gonna do with that turkey ?

areff
areff
December 23, 2022 10:08 pm

Top Ender has spotted, er, Melbourne ‘public art’, in this instance the famous Cheese Stick

https://www.architectureanddesign.com.au/getmedia/8e7b7c22-52a7-4f15-a2ab-1c36e2fa99eb/140801_Cheese5.aspx

And TE wonders why he sees rats.

Rabz
December 23, 2022 10:08 pm

Cats – Sirens really are a menace.

Especially when they’re busy upending your life … 😕

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 23, 2022 10:13 pm

actually interested … exactly what are you gonna do with that turkey ?

Stuff it and roast it, then eat some of it. I have seasoned stuffing and sausage meat for the stuffing stage. And apricots.

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