Open Thread – Weekend 14 Jan 2023


Girl at a Sewing Machine, Edward Hopper, 1921


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Ed Case
Ed Case
January 15, 2023 2:20 pm

He was making the point (if you can call it that) that if Pius XII was not in hell then Pell would be spared.

In context the implication is that Pius XII ought to have been consigned to Hades.

F.M.D.

Look, stupid, you jumped in on my original comment and spouted all the things that Hitler’s Gubmint agreed to do for the RCC in the 3rd Reich under the Concordat.

Since4 you had that info at your fingertips, I asked you what Pope Pius XII agreed to in return.
Y’know, the quid pro quo?

Suddenly, it’s all Secret Squirrel, I’m wasting your useless time, and by mentioning the Concordat I’m consigning Pell to Hades.

I mean, c’mon man, don’t double down on stupid.
Just answer the f*cking question?

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 15, 2023 2:20 pm

It was wrong to label +PCR as Covid death, and it’s just as wrong to label a vaxxed person’s death as a vaxx death when it isn’t. This is simply sorting truth from lies.

All this argument over individual cases misses the point: there were very real safety concerns over the COVID Vaxxes from day one and it is now clear that these were well founded. Excess deaths are up 15-20% in the highly vaxxed countries, began pretty swifty after the vax was rolled out and cannot be attributed to COVID itself because, even by the very broad definitions of COVID deaths used, these excess deaths well exceed COVID deaths.

Anyone who looks at the forest, not the trees, can see this. At some point, all the enthusiastic devotees of the vax cult have to admit that, or it never ends.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 15, 2023 2:21 pm

Republican Party of Kentucky, Home State of Mitch McConnell, Receives Generous $1 Million Donation from Pfizer

January 14, 2023 – Sundance

As many have eloquently said before, politics is a circle of money. The politicians provide taxpayer funds to selected private sector businesses, and those corporations fund the political efforts of the politicians. It’s a circle of interests disconnected from the American electorate.

In the latest example, the pharmaceutical corporation Pfizer, a multinational who received billions in taxpayer funds for their COVID-19 vaccination and other efforts, now gives a generous $1 million contribution to the Republican Party of Kentucky to expand a new building for the state party. Kentucky is the home state of Senate Leader Mitch McConnell.

Nothing to see here, move along, move along folks….

KENTUCKY – In what may be the largest political contribution ever given to a political party in Kentucky, the drug maker Pfizer Inc. gave $1 million last month to the building fund of the Republican Party of Kentucky.

A report filed by Republican Party of Kentucky Building Fund last week with the Kentucky Registry of Election Finance listed the $1 million from Pfizer along with five other big corporation contributions in the final quarter of 2022 totaling $1.65 million.

That is an extraordinarily large haul for the fund which had raised only $6,000 during the first three quarters of 2022. (READ MORE)

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 15, 2023 2:23 pm

The Greens’ First Nations advisory group has laid out its conditions for supporting the voice to parliament, saying it must be subject to treaty negotiations with the government.

Pending further negotiations with the government, the Greens are holding out on explicitly supporting the looming referendum, wanting further progress on all three elements outlined in the Uluru statement from the heart: truth, treaty and voice.

Ahahahaha my aching sides.
What a shitshow

Robert Sewell
January 15, 2023 2:25 pm

makka:

Let’s contemplate big arrow scenarios. There are four broad possibilities, so let’s consider them in turn. The first (1) is for an operation aimed southward on the west bank of the Oskil river. This is one that I find appealing. (8/N)

I’ll go for 2 + 3 which is what I predicted at the start of the hostilities.
It gives Russia a defensible border along the Dnieper River, and while it may not be militarily the optimum solution, it is a politically achievable one.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 15, 2023 2:26 pm

At some point, all the enthusiastic devotees of the vax cult have to admit that, or it never ends.

It will never end.
To the likes of Rosie, Calli, Bourne1879, Sancho Panzer and the rest of the cabal,
the Rights of Pfizer trump the rights of every other person on Earth.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 15, 2023 2:27 pm

I hazard a guess that the ‘Greens First Nations Group’ frowns upon the miners paying stipends to Aboriginal people under land rights agreements? Because mining bad sez Greens

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 15, 2023 2:28 pm

truth, treaty and voice.

Who’s truth? “Stories My Nanna Told Me?”

m0nty
m0nty
January 15, 2023 2:28 pm

Since4 you had that info at your fingertips, I asked you what Pope Pius XII agreed to in return.
Y’know, the quid pro quo?

The answer to that seems obvious.

Robert Sewell
January 15, 2023 2:33 pm

Top Ender:

Didn’t they say they welcome them? Maybe they could go to the Yarra Council, where I saw big banners proclaiming they luv ’em just the other day.

I’m kind of surprised they haven’t taken over Trump Towers to house the illegals.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 15, 2023 2:35 pm

The answer to that seems obvious.

Yeah, it’s a No Brainer, but Mother Load brought George Pell into it anyway.

Robert Sewell
January 15, 2023 2:36 pm

Top Ender:

The stickers lady – discussed here, and featured on Quadrant – is producing a new one which might interest some of us: “I served Australia under this flag. Vote for Unity. Vote No.”

Excellent.
Will get some.

Makka
Makka
January 15, 2023 2:36 pm

I’ll go for 2 + 3 which is what I predicted at the start of the hostilities.

Whatever form the offensive takes, I think there has to be a credible threat of a thrust south from Russian forces built up in Belorussia that interdicts the flow of NATO supplies through western Ukraine. If that actually takes place, the effective isolation of Kiev could occur.

In that scenario, you bet Ukr would need a lot more battle tanks. I suspect we’ll be hearing a lot more talk about talks of talks in coming weeks.

m0nty
m0nty
January 15, 2023 2:38 pm

Pending further negotiations with the government, the Greens are holding out on explicitly supporting the looming referendum, wanting further progress on all three elements outlined in the Uluru statement from the heart: truth, treaty and voice.

Greens making the perfect the enemy of the good, is it?

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 15, 2023 2:38 pm

Lidia Thorpe was saying
How about implementing the findings of the Muirhead Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody?
In particular, stop removing Aboriginal children from their parents.
Apparently, it’s still going full steam ahead, 30 years later.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 15, 2023 2:39 pm

Can you believe there is a 2 hr crockumentary dedicated to the career and achievements of Pelosi?

Made by her daughter apparently.

I note two dynamics regarding leaders by the left.

First there is a sickening propensity to deification of and hagiographies to their heroes. Obama, Whitlam, Stalin, Castro etc.

Second, and far more satisfying, is the sight of lefties when they turn on their heroes: RBG, Keating, for example.

RBG was like the Stephen Hawking of progressive politics in the US, seeming to become more majestic as their bodies deteriorated – as if their spirit had to shed their physical form.

But then RBG doed and events were ripe for Trump to nominate her replacement. Suddenly progressives were angry with her for not resigning earlier – something they had never wished for earlier.

Pelosi is walking a fine line. Even after her grating petulance during the Trump years, much enjoyed by the left, if they start blaming her for not codifying Roe v Wade she can expect to be ritually excoriated by the very same people who feted her.

m0nty
m0nty
January 15, 2023 2:42 pm

But then RBG doed and events were ripe for Trump to nominate her replacement. Suddenly progressives were angry with her for not resigning earlier – something they had never wished for earlier.

Pelosi is walking a fine line. Even after her grating petulance during the Trump years, much enjoyed by the left, if they start blaming her for not codifying Roe v Wade she can expect to be ritually excoriated by the very same people who feted her.

Leftists were exasperated with RBG while she was alive for not resigning. Also, I haven’t seen anything blaming Pelosi.

Has Keating been cancelled? I must have missed that memo.

John H.
John H.
January 15, 2023 2:42 pm

JCsays:
January 15, 2023 at 2:17 pm

How is the leg JC?

bespoke
bespoke
January 15, 2023 2:44 pm

In particular, stop removing Aboriginal children from their parents.
Apparently, it’s still going full steam ahead, 30 years later.

What is the alternative?

John H.
John H.
January 15, 2023 2:45 pm

Ed Casesays:
January 15, 2023 at 2:38 pm
Lidia Thorpe was saying
How about implementing the findings of the Muirhead Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody?
In particular, stop removing Aboriginal children from their parents.
Apparently, it’s still going full steam ahead, 30 years later.

Raw numbers are often meaningless. I hear the numbers all the time but I never read about why indigenous person X was in jail or why Indigenous child Y was removed from the home. Until such time as I see those details the raw numbers remain meaningless to me.

Robert Sewell
January 15, 2023 2:47 pm

https://twitter.com/i/status/1614297741240463360
Needs a little more work, but until then, it’s one way how to get the mice out.

John H.
John H.
January 15, 2023 2:49 pm

flyingduksays:
January 15, 2023 at 2:20 pm
It was wrong to label +PCR as Covid death, and it’s just as wrong to label a vaxxed person’s death as a vaxx death when it isn’t. This is simply sorting truth from lies.

All this argument over individual cases misses the point: there were very real safety concerns over the COVID Vaxxes from day one and it is now clear that these were well founded. Excess deaths are up 15-20% in the highly vaxxed countries, began pretty swifty after the vax was rolled out and cannot be attributed to COVID itself because, even by the very broad definitions of COVID deaths used, these excess deaths well exceed COVID deaths.

Anyone who looks at the forest, not the trees, can see this. At some point, all the enthusiastic devotees of the vax cult have to admit that, or it never ends.

The trials did not address multiple shots. The current vaccine regime is not covered as an emergency authorization. The authorities won’t admit that.

Makka
Makka
January 15, 2023 2:50 pm

Can you believe there is a 2 hr crockumentary dedicated to the career and achievements of Pelosi?

On how to acquire hundreds of million$ from insider trading?

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 2:55 pm

Anyone who looks at the forest, not the trees, can see this. At some point, all the enthusiastic devotees of the vax cult have to admit that, or it never ends.

Can’t you look at both? That’s why I said that the whole thing is still unrolling. And yes, I can see your point.

I am not an “enthusiastic devotee”…anything but. Eventually many people will admit they were wrong, especially the ones who were the most cruel. Not all of them though, and it’s unrealistic to expect it.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 15, 2023 2:58 pm

In particular, stop removing Aboriginal children from their parents.
Apparently, it’s still going full steam ahead, 30 years later.

Yes, yes it is.
A local Aboriginal woman came to my parents 19 years ago asking them if they could take custody of her soon to be born twin boys.
She had alcohol problems and couldn’t see herself raising them in that state.
Parents said yes, they are young working men and all good. Good sportsmen.
Ed, removal of Aboriginal kids from parents who cannot look after themselves isn’t a bad thing. Pull your phucking head in.

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 2:58 pm

To the likes of Rosie, Calli, Bourne1879, Sancho Panzer and the rest of the cabal,
the Rights of Pfizer trump the rights of every other person on Earth.

An outright lie. You, sir, are a liar. And an extremely stupid one.

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 2:59 pm

Show me exactly where I expressed support of Pfizer. Go on. Look hard.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 15, 2023 2:59 pm

What is the alternative?

To send the children to loving homes regardless of the skin colour.

Robert Sewell
January 15, 2023 3:03 pm

Old Ozzie:

Price, not much more than GP cost at my (Mainly Female & Excellent GPs) Medical Centre here in OZ

That’s pretty good – but if you want to be horrified, get your new car serviced at the Emporium where you bought it.
…and think about how much the apprentice mechanic got paid for his time.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 15, 2023 3:03 pm

To send the children to loving homes regardless of the skin colour.

I thought the procedure was to lodge Aboriginal children with Aboriginal foster parents, in the name of “preserving their culture?”

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 3:04 pm

John H

It’s perfection now. The cortisone was a really strong ointment and stopped the infernal itching. Totally healed now. Thanks for asking.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2023 3:05 pm

The Greens’ First Nations advisory group has laid out its conditions for supporting the voice to parliament, saying it must be subject to treaty negotiations with the government.

I know nothing of The Voice proposal.
I would have thought this was an integral part of it.

Regardless, The Voice will win with a huge majority.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2023 3:05 pm

Back to benching 200kg JC?

bespoke
bespoke
January 15, 2023 3:06 pm

To send the children to loving homes regardless of the skin colour.

Yes but this isn’t happening BB. Many are stuck in temporary foster care because extended families don’t meet woke agenda.

Johnny Rotten
January 15, 2023 3:10 pm

Top Endersays:
January 15, 2023 at 12:44 pm
New York City Mayor Eric Adams said the city has reached its ‘breaking point’ as 400 asylum seekers arrive at the Big Apple every day.

Didn’t they say they welcome them? Maybe they could go to the Yarra Council, where I saw big banners proclaiming they luv ’em just the other day.

The NY City Mayor and NY State Guv’nor along with ‘Dribbling Joe’ should be happy as they will likely all become DemoRat Voters when they are given the right to vote before the 2024 Presidential Election………………………….

Vicki
Vicki
January 15, 2023 3:10 pm

In particular, stop removing Aboriginal children from their parents.
Apparently, it’s still going full steam ahead, 30 years later.

Those who oppose the removal of children from their parents must never have read the reports – such as those which led to John Howard’s “Intervention” – which describe the appalling sexual abuse of so many Aboriginal children in their family environments. A great many – though not all, of course – occur in those remote communities endorsed as a “return to country” – where neither tribal nor civil law prevails.

Many on this blog will know of my affection and interest in our indigenous people – past and present. I am familiar with much of their societal customs – good and bad – and I don’t have any illusions about contemporary Aboriginal life. Tribal life in the past was brutal, by our standards. Many practices, particularly in very hard times, would shock contemporary Australians. However, strict “skin” taboos seem to have prohibited much of the incest and sexual violations that has been seen in modern times. Leaving children in families where they are routinely violated is abhorrent.

In my humble opinion the plight of many Aboriginal communities has been created by administrators who simply do not understand Aboriginal life and assume that communities themselves will enforce order. It is a nonsense that does not recognise a patriarchal society in freefall when allowed to operate outside of the larger society.

The “good stories” resulting from the so-called “Stolen Generation” are never acknowledged. But integration into the whole community should be a goal.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 3:11 pm

250 K, Bern. 🙂

You guys have Kieser up there too. It’s a decent gym and they create a workout program for you reviewed about every 3 months. They have really good weight machines. I wish they kept machine legs off the walkways though, so bumbling idiots don’t walk into them. 🙂

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 3:12 pm

In fact, in 2020, I warned on SincCat about Pfizer’s terrible record regarding drug rollouts and the compensation and court cases they have been involved in over the years.

Why? Because a family member who happens to work in the pharma industry alerted me to it.

At that stage everyone* was looking forward to something emerging. Why? Because Trump. And then the tune changed very quickly as 2021 wore on, vaccines were rolled out along with a dodgy new POTUS and problems with AZ and then the mRNA substances appeared. I remember the whole thing very clearly and the debate and worry over foetal cell lines being used. This all continued into 2021 and onto the transition to DashCat and FlashCat.

* with a couple of exceptions

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
January 15, 2023 3:13 pm

Nah, her brain is still developing.

And FMD she’s got a looong way to go.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2023 3:13 pm

GP’s are a funny mob.
“Alternative” COVID treatments ? Get out of my office.
Off-label prescribing of GLP-1 treatments ? Come on down.*

* According to various news websites.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2023 3:13 pm

cavemansays:
January 15, 2023 at 2:01 pm
Can we stop calling Greta Pruneface “a teenage activist”.
She turned 20 on January 3rd.

Nah, her brain is still developing.

And will be for another 80 years.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 15, 2023 3:14 pm

Anyone had experience in Qatar finding something of interest to do? We are going to be in transit for 25 hours. I’m presuming we don’t need a visa.

Tom
Tom
January 15, 2023 3:17 pm

Regardless, The Voice will win with a huge majority.

Glad you know more about Australian politics than me, Bern.

I’ve had only a lifetime of studying it for a living, especially the failure of referendums.

I hope you’re wrong. You may be right.

Australia is now a socialist country that loves big government and hates free enterprise.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2023 3:18 pm

Tom, don’t think I’m supporting it.
My view is based on money + platform = outcome.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 15, 2023 3:18 pm

Bolta:

ABC star Phillip Adams claimed two weeks ago he couldn’t be a racist bigot because his white-complexioned wife, former model Patrice Newell, had turned out – surprise! – to be Aboriginal.

There are plenty of reasons to laugh at Adams’ excuse, not least because neither he nor the adopted Newell had any idea when they married that Newell had an Aboriginal ancestor.

But I’ve now found one more reason not to buy the old fraud’s defence to the deserved criticism he got for telling Malaysian-born signer Kamahl that cricket legend Sir Donald Bradman treated him as a friend only because he was an “honorary white”.

It’s The Penguin Book of Australian Jokes, which he and Newell put together in 1994, when Newell was still a white and Adams was the Labor-appointed chairman of the National Australia Day Council.

I’m shocked. It includes the most disgustingly racist anti-Aboriginal “jokes” I’ve ever heard.

A typical one starts: “Jacky was sitting on the stoop …”

Yes, his and Newell’s “jokes” refer to Aborigines as “Jacky”.

Another “joke” has an Aboriginal walking into a pub with one thong: “The barman asks, Did ya lose a thong, mate?” “Nah, I found one.”

The worst, which I won’t repeat, involves a “Jacky” found injured after falling from a car with “dents in every panel” and “nine black fellows in the back, all drinking warm sherry”, plus “six dogs on the front seat”.

How does Adam still have a job at the ABC? How did he get to be a foundation member of the Australia Council and chairman of the Film, Radio and Television Board, awarded no fewer than four honorary doctorates and an Order of Australia?

Adams in his preface admits the jokes are racist but pompously claims he included them “because it’s important to understand what mainstream Australia regards as funny in the 1990s”.

These “jokes”, he insists, “are the most honest indicators about (sic) what we are really feeling.”

Speak for yourself, Phillip. The mainstream Australia I knew never thought this crap funny, and shame on you and Newell, now calling herself a “proud Gundijtmara woman”, for having published such sick stuff for cash.

I mention this book because Adams is a perfect prototype of the modern moralist, who condemns others for the sins they themselves display.

Think of global warmists such as Leonardo DiCaprio who fly on private jets. Think of Prince Harry, selling his royal family’s secrets for squillions while complaining about intrusions on his privacy.

Or think of supporters of the Voice – Labor’s plan for a kind of Aboriginal-only advisory parliament – who claim they’re fighting racism while pushing for apartheid.

Those supporters predictably include Adams, once a lion of our cultural elite, who hitched himself to every popular Left-wing cause from Gough Whitlam to global warming, including the anti-Catholicism that has him now re-tweeting jeering abuse of George Pell after the Cardinal’s death last Tuesday.

Yes, Adams is a type. Like many of that purulent collective that controls the ABC and many other cultural institutions, his posturings seem driven more by tribalism than morality.

For instance, Adams recently boasted he’d “made it mandatory” at the National Australia Day Council to choose as Australian of the Year someone who’d make conservative broadcaster Alan Jones “apoplectic”.

A joke, you say? If so, it’s one he repeated for two decades – claiming back then his aim was to “discompose calcified conservatives”, which makes me wonder how many worthy Australians Adams refused to honour just out of partisan spite.

In much the same way, his support for illegal immigrants seemed driven more by a tribal contempt for the millions of Liberal voters who’d kept his Labor mates out of office.

Adams, a long-time Labor Party member, denounced the “mass of Australians” who backed the Howard Government’s tough border policies as “little people” with “the racism of nice people who live in nice houses”, voting for a Prime Minister who “speaks at the deep, dark depths of our mediocrity”.

Behold the voice of a colossal snob, a multi-millionaire hurling abuse at “little” Australians from his 3500 hectare organic farm.

Yes, abusing the same Australians he’d once sold books with racist jokes about “Jacky” that he and his wife selected in the revealing belief they reflected “what we are really feeling”.

In Adams’ case, I don’t doubt it. From Jacky jokes to the Voice – for Aborigines deemed too different by our elite to handle our democracy – isn’t really such a big step.

Andrew Bolt

Herald-Sun

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
January 15, 2023 3:20 pm

As for not removing Aboriginal children, are you joking? the only people I ever hear talking about “stolen children” have never been to an aboriginal community or visited any town in NW Western Australia or the NT or South Australian places like Ceduna, there are plenty of places in NSW and QLD as well.
Go for a walk around Kununurra at 2 AM on any night and tell me about “stolen children”.

Vicki
Vicki
January 15, 2023 3:22 pm

On a lighter note, I have just tasted the first nectarines from our orchard. The crows took the sparse fruit from the plum trees, but we netted the nectarines before they ripened. The nectarines are perhaps the sweetest I have tasted in years. Not big fruit, but very tasty.

No apricots this year, but plenty of apples and pears still ripening. Our grape vines also have plenty of fruit, but I suspect the crows will get these when they ripen and we return to Sydney. Except for our tiny house vineyard, the grape vines are trellised over a long colonnade from our garden gate to the front steps, and it is too long & difficult to net.

The damn crows have been eyeing it all off from the big box gums in the adjacent paddocks.

Robert Sewell
January 15, 2023 3:22 pm

ZK2A:

I thought the procedure was to lodge Aboriginal children with Aboriginal foster parents, in the name of “preserving their culture?”

How come I never hear the question “What is worth preserving about the Aboriginal Culture?”
From what I’ve seen of it, someone needs to pull the sheets up, tip toe out of the room and quietly close the door. Let nature take its course.
Aboriginal culture as practised before the white arrived is dead. Let it rest in peace and give it a little dignity. The selling and deification of the inherited trinkets of a dying culture is the same as the tomb robbers of the Egyptian Pharaohs – it’s tawdry and pathetic, and just cheapens all the people involved.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2023 3:22 pm

NFL really want the Jaguars to win.
Disgraceful refereeing.

Vicki
Vicki
January 15, 2023 3:25 pm

Go for a walk around Kununurra at 2 AM on any night ……

And Kununurra is one of the safer communities compared to Wadye and other remote communities.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 15, 2023 3:26 pm

I thought the procedure was to lodge Aboriginal children with Aboriginal foster parents, in the name of “preserving their culture?”

It is Zulu but there aren’t as many Aboriginal foster parents as white. Just a fact.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 15, 2023 3:26 pm

Jorge at 1:46.
Not everyone is buying the narrative, especially those closest to the action in the 1970’s and 1980’s.
Had dinner last night with half a dozen old chums from boarding school, some of whom I had only seen a couple of times since school. One of the wives, thinking she was on safe ground, launched into a “rot in hell, Pell” rant.
Every one of the blokes (including her hubby) set her straight about who did the shifting (Mulkearns and Little) and who did the abusing (Ridsdale, Bale/Dowlan, Best, Coffey, Ryan etc).
All of us knew someone who had been abused, and hate the grubs who did it, but all thought Pell had been stitched up, both on the Cathedral case and the “shifting them around” accusations.
I think the woman who raised it was genuinely shocked at the response from us all.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
January 15, 2023 3:28 pm

Top Ender says:
January 15, 2023 at 3:18 pm

Bolta:

Thanks for that post, Bolt nails Adams for the cretin he is.

Tom
Tom
January 15, 2023 3:28 pm

Top Ender, Qatar is a great place for a stopover. The spice market in the main souk is one of the best on the planet – load up for your home cooking. The port area is dripping with history and old junks and the restaurants in the big hotels are very good. Otherwise, get your local guides to take you to the best local restaurants. Hope that helps.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2023 3:30 pm

bespokesays:
January 15, 2023 at 2:44 pm
In particular, stop removing Aboriginal children from their parents.
Apparently, it’s still going full steam ahead, 30 years later.

What is the alternative?

Accept that a proportion of them will be born with FASD, be raped, bashed, ill-fed, not cared for, and will die in the dirt?

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 15, 2023 3:30 pm

Annnd Philip Adams can fark farkity fark orf. The very definition of racist

Robert Sewell
January 15, 2023 3:31 pm

Big Nambas:

Go for a walk around Kununurra at 2 AM on any night and tell me about “stolen children”.

It’s the same all over – children being socialised by children, while the older children drink themselves into insensibility. But if you mention it or do something about it that doesn’t line the pockets of the Aboriginal Industry, you’re the racist.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 15, 2023 3:32 pm

JCsays:

January 15, 2023 at 3:11 pm

250 K, Bern. 

You are confusing kilograms and grams.

You guys have Kieser up there too.

Kieser?
Geriatric gym.
And also Kieser was Hitler’s personal trainer.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 15, 2023 3:34 pm

Top Endersays:

January 15, 2023 at 3:14 pm

Anyone had experience in Qatar finding something of interest to do?

You could get a construction job and die of heatstroke.
It’s very popular there.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
January 15, 2023 3:36 pm

Vicki says:
January 15, 2023 at 3:25 pm

Go for a walk around Kununurra at 2 AM on any night ……

And Kununurra is one of the safer communities compared to Wadye and other remote communities.

Not talking about safety, talking about the 5 to 12 year old roaming around because if the go home it’s a beating or, worse, rape that awaits them.

Johnny Rotten
January 15, 2023 3:37 pm

The dubious case for a Treaty

All of the above factors are reasons why Australia did not form a national treaty. This was not preordained or based on abstract legal doctrines. Rather, it was historically contingent to the circumstances the colony found itself in, and unravelled over time, based on the political nature of colonisation and the relationship they had with the Indigenous population.

Whether it is historians or activists who ignore the complexities of our history without considering the proper context the British found themselves in after 1788, Australians should be cautious about calls to form a national treaty. For instance, with whom would we sign the treaty? Not only are many Aboriginal people today of mixed race, but Aboriginal people themselves represent hundreds of different “nations”.

As I hope this article has demonstrated, it would have been neither right nor wrong to sign a treaty in 1788. The government at the time lacked the need and ability to form one. Australia already has over 800 regional treaties with indigenous groups. As Peter Sutton points out, these land grants have made no difference to social outcomes.

A national treaty cannot change the crimes of the past and the disadvantages of the present. Forming one would not unite us but divide us.

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/aborigines/2023/01/why-new-zealand-has-a-treaty-and-australia-doesnt/

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2023 3:38 pm

I was at the gym this morning.
A chap was doing sleds.
The sled rig weights 15kgs.
If I do any sleds, I’ll put 10kgs (or sometimes 15) on it.
This chap had loaded it up with 40kgs.
He was pushing 55kgs up and down the track.
He didn’t look at that strong either.

Tom
Tom
January 15, 2023 3:38 pm

By the way, Top Ender, Qatar Airways is an excellent choice, in my opinion — on my recent experience, the world’s best long-haul airline, even in cattle class. Eat their food — it’s very good. So’s the wine selection.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 15, 2023 3:38 pm

Anyone had experience in Qatar finding something of interest to do? We are going to be in transit for 25 hours. I’m presuming we don’t need a visa.

The last (and only) time I was in Doha I ‘visited’ an RAN FFH. I arrived in civvies (one doesn’t drive around Doha in ADF cams) which meant the gangplank guards didn’t really know who I was. By the time I left, they had checked my ID and worked out I outranked everyone on the ship except the Captain. This lead to me being piped off this ship, which was a bit awkward because RAAF Reserve MOs are no briefed on how to handle this.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 15, 2023 3:38 pm

Regardless, The Voice will win with a huge majority.

Nope.
The only people interested are white academics on whom the referendum will ultimately succeed or fail.
There is a huge bloc of black voters who were happy to see the back of ATSIC and have memories of that swamp
But as I have said, the same names who have family in every organisation to cater to Aboriginal people aren’t pleased that they will continue having their palms greased.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 15, 2023 3:40 pm

This chap had loaded it up with 40kgs.
He was pushing 55kgs up and down the track.

Phht.
Warm up routine.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 15, 2023 3:41 pm

I was at the gym this morning.
A chap was doing sleds.
The sled rig weights 15kgs.
If I do any sleds, I’ll put 10kgs (or sometimes 15) on it.
This chap had loaded it up with 40kgs.
He was pushing 55kgs up and down the track.
He didn’t look at that strong either.

30 for 30 ESPN doco on the 85 Bears. Superb.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2023 3:44 pm

Big_Nambassays:
January 15, 2023 at 3:20 pm
As for not removing Aboriginal children, are you joking? the only people I ever hear talking about “stolen children” have never been to an aboriginal community or visited any town in NW Western Australia or the NT or South Australian places like Ceduna, there are plenty of places in NSW and QLD as well.
Go for a walk around Kununurra at 2 AM on any night and tell me about “stolen children”.

This is a grand opportunity for m0nty=fa.

He wouldn’t go to Malmo for (at best) spurious reasons. Perhaps he will be willing to take a crowdfunded trip to some of the delightful “communities”?

He could make his name by writing a series of articles on his experiences. Their ABC would have its “stars” lining up to interview him.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 15, 2023 3:48 pm

He wouldn’t go to Malmo for (at best) spurious reasons. Perhaps he will be willing to take a crowdfunded trip to some of the delightful “communities”?

The only reason he wouldn’t go because he squibbed it.
To endear himself to the adoring ABC/SBS collective throng, he could report from Wadeye or Tennant Creek.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 15, 2023 3:49 pm

Robert Sewell says:
January 15, 2023 at 3:03 pm

Old Ozzie:

Price, not much more than GP cost at my (Mainly Female & Excellent GPs) Medical Centre here in OZ

That’s pretty good – but if you want to be horrified, get your new car serviced at the Emporium where you bought it.
…and think about how much the apprentice mechanic got paid for his time.

Robert,

1994 Toyota Series 80 Landcruiser 4.5l EFI- 1st 1,000 km service Bill Buckle Toyota Brookvale where purchased, all service since then Traction 4 ARB Artarmon

Honda Jazz’s with Honda Brookvale till expiration warranty, then GDL Automotive Warriewood, SAABs at ARK Automotive Manly Vale

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2023 3:51 pm

Black Ballsays:
January 15, 2023 at 3:48 pm
He wouldn’t go to Malmo for (at best) spurious reasons. Perhaps he will be willing to take a crowdfunded trip to some of the delightful “communities”?

The only reason he wouldn’t go because he squibbed it.
To endear himself to the adoring ABC/SBS collective throng, he could report from Wadeye or Tennant Creek.

Constable Rolfe could be assigned as his guide/escort?

Vicki
Vicki
January 15, 2023 3:54 pm

As Peter Sutton points out, these land grants have made no difference to social outcomes.

As an anthropologist who lived in Aboriginal communities with his own family, Sutton has a very clear idea of the falsities of the government narrative. Years ago he wrote a very useful book, “The Politics of Suffering” which documents the misery caused by these policies. Yet, government bureaucracies & the Woke continue to ignore his advice.

rosie
rosie
January 15, 2023 3:55 pm

Forest?
Trees?
We keep getting pointed at ‘trees’ that turn out to be non vaxx relates deaths, by a long shot.
No-one has established a definitive link between excess deaths and the vaxx, not even close.
Using struth logic doesn’t cut it.

Frank
Frank
January 15, 2023 3:55 pm

“On how to acquire hundreds of million$ from insider trading?”

And following that, remain trapped in a marriage to a closeted homosexual that likes to fill in the time that you are away by defiling the marital bed with rent boys. Hammer wielding rent boys. Rent boys from the underside of the San Fransisco drug culture. Surely the posh fridge would go a long way to ameliorating the shame associated with leading that sort of life.

Tom
Tom
January 15, 2023 3:57 pm

To endear himself to the adoring ABC/SBS collective throng, he could report from Wadeye or Tennant Creek.

Monty “reporting” from the Aboriginal arsehole of Australia? THAT I would pay money for just to see how he would deal with his discomfort.

Johnny Rotten
January 15, 2023 3:58 pm

Neil Oliver:

GB News –

” Excess deaths are rising around us. The fact these deaths are happening world-wide means the attempt to blame them on a failing NHS or striking ambulance drivers is for the birds. It is another bid to distract people’s attention from the elephant in the room.”

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1614329227272421376

rosie
rosie
January 15, 2023 4:01 pm

Incidentally when it comes to similarities it strikes me that thinking one is intellectually superior, the ultimate product of the enlightenment, in fact, who looks down in smug self-satisfaction at lesser mortals, especially if they profess to be Christian, is a characteristic of Monty and Matrix, one can feel the smirks as they post their latest oh so witty oh so clever barb.

Chris
Chris
January 15, 2023 4:02 pm

I thought the procedure was to lodge Aboriginal children with Aboriginal foster parents, in the name of “preserving their culture?”

It is Zulu but there aren’t as many Aboriginal foster parents as white. Just a fact.

Yes.
My mother/parents became a career foster family when I left home for school. Our second kid was a lovely young boy who however had been taught to let off handbrakes. Also to do whatever you told him not to, as soon as you weren’t looking. A few vehicles and tractors rolling free on the home hill resulted in him finding another home. Of course confidentiality means you don’t get to hear how people go after they leave; all the best I hope. Sweet kid otherwise.
Some kids however, test their new families very hard. ‘Placed with loving families’ is a simplification; a great family can be converted to a web of apparently mutual abusive relationships by the kid coming into conflict with the foster family, just by doing what kid and families do. A kid with a history of sexual abuse can be an abuser, in their next placement. And other over-the-top behaviors destroy peace for the parents.
Quite a few marriages break up from the stresses. My mother lost her teaching job partly as a result of complaints about foster kids she brought to our home, our town, our school. Its still a live issue, and it started over 40 years ago!
So successful foster families, a huge hat tip to you all, kids, parents and welfare officers all.
And race doesn’t come into it – its the family the kids come from and the sainted parent that makes most of the difference.

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 4:03 pm

Look at the excess death numbers and then the individual cases. See if the cases support your hypothesis.

That is what I meant by looking at both forest and trees.

I thought that was what scientists did.

bespoke
bespoke
January 15, 2023 4:04 pm
Black Ball
Black Ball
January 15, 2023 4:06 pm

Well said Chris

Frank
Frank
January 15, 2023 4:06 pm

“I thought that was what scientists did.”

Science is all stats these days.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 15, 2023 4:10 pm

No-one has established a definitive link between excess deaths and the vaxx, not even close.

Despite the *desperate* attempts of our ‘wise health rulers’ and the gullible public, to not see it, multi-sigma jumps in excess deaths have been seen in pretty much *all* the highly vaxxed countries, starting shortly after the vaxxes were rolled out, and NOT explained by COVID deaths themselves…

Your move deniers, if the Vaxxes aren’t a prime suspect, what is? What else could have caused such an unprecedented, global effect?

Robert Sewell
January 15, 2023 4:13 pm

Black Ball:

It is Zulu but there aren’t as many Aboriginal foster parents as white. Just a fact.

One of the major issues creeping up in the Communities, was the Grandmother type who took in all the kids, fed and – with assistance – clothed the kids who been abandoned in situ by the parents. Said parents rarely helped with funding, it was grans job if she took them in.
The issue was the parents didn’t learn the parenting skills they needed to take over from Gran. So the problem of children socialising children is now coming home to roost. It was predicted twenty years ago this would happen, and the Canbra Mob just kept demanding more money, more resources, and less responsibility.
The Voice is just another stepping stone along a well worn path of Aboriginal irresponsibility and graft.
The price being paid in human suffering is enormous and the butchers bill hasn’t been totalled yet.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 15, 2023 4:14 pm

Black Ball says:
January 15, 2023 at 3:26 pm

I thought the procedure was to lodge Aboriginal children with Aboriginal foster parents, in the name of “preserving their culture?”

It is Zulu but there aren’t as many SOBER Aboriginal foster parents as white. Just a fact.

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 4:15 pm

Your move deniers

I’ll ask you again. Are you calling me a “denier” of the vaxx causing death? I just want to be clear so I don’t need to waste time and pixels rebutting it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 15, 2023 4:17 pm

Tom says:
January 15, 2023 at 3:17 pm

Regardless, The Voice will win with a huge majority.

Glad you know more about Australian politics than me, Bern.

I’ve had only a lifetime of studying it for a living, especially the failure of referendums.

Tom,

you weren’t a long distance runner, perchance, at School?

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 15, 2023 4:24 pm

I’ll ask you again. Are you calling me a “denier” of the vaxx causing death? I just want to be clear so I don’t need to waste time and pixels rebutting it.

I am not addressing you (or any other individual here) personally, Calli, of being a denier, or anything else. I have used my long experience in the medical industry, and thousands of hours of research, to offer the blog readers the opportunity to become aware that the vaxxes are likely neither ‘safe’ nor ‘effective’.

What they do with said opinion is up to them. I am past trying to convince anyone, its up to them what they do with the information.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 4:25 pm

Duk

Delayed medical treatment during the worst of the COVID is most certainly a potential factor. And, reliance on data from heavily vax countries would be obvious. Highly vaxed countries would be the rich nations and theoretically their stats would be miles better than say India where a large number of the population aren’t even registered at birth nor death.

You criticize the people by calling them deniers. I would be 100% correct in suggesting that if we were able to unearth the question about excess deaths, your side (your side being the side certain the vax caused these excess deaths) would say the findings were fraudulent.

I don’t think we will ever get to the truth because the data is too unreliable, but I’m open to giving credence to the fact that the vaccines caused many deaths. We don’t know

But FFS sake, your side ghoulishly reporting some young person dropping dead in a population of 8 billion people is somehow indicative the vax caused the death? I mean, really? Try and not be so arrogant in such an uncertain world.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 15, 2023 4:25 pm

Yes Robert Sewell I failed to mention those elders who took on their grandkids.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 4:28 pm

I’ll ask you again. Are you calling me a “denier” of the vaxx causing death?

Please put me in that camp Doc. I deny the certainty vaxes caused deaths because I don’t have any data to support such a finding even though I suspect it’s possible.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 15, 2023 4:28 pm

But FFS sake, your side ghoulishly reporting some young person dropping dead in a population of 8 billion people is somehow indicative the vax caused the death? I mean, really? Try and not be so arrogant in such an uncertain world.

Tree v Forrest again…. sigh…….

Chris
Chris
January 15, 2023 4:29 pm

Your move deniers, if the Vaxxes aren’t a prime suspect, what is? What else could have caused such an unprecedented, global effect?

Behavior change!
The colossal social pressures of lockdowns and isolation meant people not living fully and noticing they early signs that bring them to the doctor, then telephone consultations that don’t get deep, then a last-days diagnosis of cancer. As for vaccines ‘turbocharging cancer, I am skeptical. I think the disruption of people’s interaction with the medical system is the bigger reason.

Johnny Rotten
January 15, 2023 4:30 pm

Biden & His Declassified Documents

From Armstrong Economics –

“There is something really rotten in the real land of Oz – Washington DC, There is absolutely NO WAY suddenly Democrats would reveal that they have found classified documents in Biden’s various locations. They have manipulated the press to hide the Hunter Laptop and these documents all before the elections. They stormed Trump’s house as they have NEVER done in the history of this nation no matter how heated the politics have been. It is even debatable if that would hold up at the Supreme Court level. But all of this is curious at best, but there is something far more sinister behind the curtain.

Revealing that Biden had classified documents and now the Attorney General had to appoint a special prosecutor, there is no way they can indict Trump on that theory without indicting Biden. But all of that seems to be just the misdirection. Biden’s mental capabilities are failing and to pull off World War III, they may be using this ploy that compels him to resign and at the same time tar & feather Trump for 2024. They need someone who is not the brightest bulb in the box but who will just read the prepared speeches on cue.

Something just DOES NOT SMELL right with this entire affair. With the Republicans now in charge of the House, that is where the investigations start. The computer had warned if you recall, that there was a risk that the president during this wave would not complete a term. It turned out that the precise day of 2022.966 was December 19th, the very day that the January 6th Committee recommended criminal charges for Trump. There are people in DC who respect our model. They know that indicting Trump will seriously divide the country and result in rising civil unrest. On top of that, with the Republicans now launching an investigation of the Democratic investigations, they need a diversion.

Harris sought the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination but withdrew from the race prior to the primaries. Joe Biden selected her as his running mate and their ticket went on to defeat the incumbent president, Donald Trump, and vice president, Mike Pence, in the 2020 election. Harris’ ECM chart interestingly lined up for 2020. But it also lines up with 2025 when the sky looks very dark geopolitically. They may be preparing to eat Biden for lunch to further knock Trump for 2024. But also because they seem to hope that removing him from office will takes the steam out of the Republicans out to impeach Biden over Hunter’s Laptop etc. Use the declassified docs and kill two birds with one stone – Trump & Biden.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/biden-his-declassified-documents/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 15, 2023 4:32 pm

Delayed medical treatment during the worst of the COVID is most certainly a potential factor.

Er… how does this cause healthy athletes to drop on the pitch? The dominant cause of the rise in excess deaths is *sudden* cardiovascular death, often in relatively young, apparenly healthy people – what form of ‘delayed medical treatment’ did they miss out on?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 15, 2023 4:32 pm

The Greens’ First Nations advisory group has laid out its conditions for supporting the voice to parliament, saying it must be subject to treaty negotiations with the government

Dem goal posts, dey moving.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 4:33 pm

Tree v Forrest again…. sigh…….

Explain the sigh, Duk. I don’t understand why looking down at every goulish report of someone dying on a hockey field is a tree or a forest.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

In the past children have been offered to be handed over or adopted, from indigenous parent (or parent) to it-doesn’t-matter-who, so long as they’d take the toddler off their hands. The parents plain didn’t want the bother.
The condition was the ‘traditional adoption’ had to be informal, as the mother was handing over only the child, not the government payments that come with it.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
January 15, 2023 4:35 pm

Your move deniers, if the Vaxxes aren’t a prime suspect, what is? What else could have caused such an unprecedented, global effect?

The SAS detachment of the Drop Bear army? 🙂

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Children offered to me, or my cohort, that is. (i.e. people who would be good parents & sufficiently financially responsible to raise a child)

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 15, 2023 4:37 pm

Vicki says:
January 15, 2023 at 3:10 pm

In particular, stop removing Aboriginal children from their parents.
Apparently, it’s still going full steam ahead, 30 years later.

Those who oppose the removal of children from their parents must never have read the reports – such as those which led to John Howard’s “Intervention” – which describe the appalling sexual abuse of so many Aboriginal children in their family environments.

A great many – though not all, of course – occur in those remote communities endorsed as a “return to country” – where neither tribal nor civil law prevails.

Vicki,

among my many 4WD Trips across OZ road test new 4WDs for Jouno Mate, Fitzroy Crossing was a place often visited

On August 2008 testing – Review of the Black Mira – Landrover Defender 110 – we camped across the river in Fitzory Crossing in Fitzory River Lodge – there was an item on ABC News that a 15 month old baby boy had been raped in Fitzroy Crossing and the Local Police had been unable to find a Sober Adult, let alone anyone related to the boy in the house – Kununurra, Halls Creek, Derby, Broome, Katherine, Darwin, Tennant Creek. Alice etc, always drunken aboriginal men & women belting the Crap out of each other at Night – let alone remote communities on Outback Tracks

The Chidlren were not “Stolen” they were removed for their own safety – now they stay in Violence

PS

Re Review of the Black Mira – Landrover Defender 110

some thoughts on the Defender 110

. Probably the best handling 4WD chassis that I have driven – handled the Humbert Track and road into Bungle Bungle with ease, and with Tyres set at 24 PSI rode the corrugations on the Tanami Track easily

. The bash plate under the engine is the best I have ever seen, strong and well designed.

. The handling was complimented by the General Grabber 235x85x16 tyres, that at 24,000km were showing little sign of wear, no chunking as had happened to some of the Cooper STs and handled dirt, river crossings sand easily – would look at buying them for my 4WD.

. Having ETC really appreciated and you could hear it working on scrabbly bits.

. Good on the black top, good cruiser but needs Cruise Control

. Surprisingly, having first thought whoops, when seeing the front seats, remarkably comfortable after nearly 9000km of Driving.

. Comfortable Steering Wheel and good vision over the bonnet for a shorty like me, but for someone as tall as my Co-Driver, there was not enough backwards movement in the seat

. The Steering Wheel needs to be reduced by about 7 cms and as one’s elbow is so close to the driver’s window, it would be nice to have padding on top of the door frame where the window goes into the door.

. Looking underneath, a really really well built and laid out chassis, could really take a lot of punishment and the coils and wheels at each corner added to the stability at speed on dirt.

. A real great sound system, i.e. great speakers, but could do with a MP3 player input as it is hard on the CDs on the rough stuff.

. needs power outlet in the rear and more than one power outlet in the front, especially as the battery is under the passengers seat.

. Originally thought the performance was pretty miserable and could not understand how you had been saying that it was really great on 4X4 of the Year, but after we blew the air filter out at Silent Grove off Gibb River Road, it real got up and Rock and Rolled.

The 73 Litre Fuel Tank with an effective 68 litres (as specified in Owner’s Manual) is just not suitable for Australian Conditions – interesting we put 72.61 Litres in at Shell Coles Express at Port Augusta just after turn-off from Stuart Hwy onto Highway 1 – given the fuel empty light had come on 20kms before and manual and our experience showed there should be 9 litres left at that point, I think motorists may be being ripped off.

. Space, with all our gear and extra wheel in the rear was quite cavernous.

. The Front Driver’s side and Passenger side need grab handles (especially for ageing geriatrics) to assist in getting into the Vehicle Seats

. Road noise is reasonably high but not unbearable.

. The Air-conditioning worked a treat and was really good especially for a black car.

. Fuel consumption goes up when going into the wind and obviously due to boxy shape is high for 2.4l diesel – we probably averaged around 11l per 100km with worst 12.66l per 100km into the wind going to Hall’s Creek and best 10.09l per 100Km.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 4:39 pm

Er… how does this cause healthy athletes to drop on the pitch?

Stroke or a heart attack. How do you know these sudden deaths were caused by the vax. It’s not as though people haven’t died suddenly before. A knock to the head causing an aneurysm could cause a fatality in seconds. There’s nothing unusual about an athlete dying.

The dominant cause of the rise in excess deaths is *sudden* cardiovascular death, often in relatively young, apparenly healthy people – what form of ‘delayed medical treatment’ did they miss out on?

I don’t know if a report I read is correct or not, but it said that there’s no evidence of more athletes dropping dead now than before.

Tell me, did you ever work in ER? How many young ER patients did you see coming into major hospitals on Saturday afternoon, which is peak sport time for young people?

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 15, 2023 4:42 pm

As for vaccines ‘turbocharging cancer, I am skeptical. I think the disruption of people’s interaction with the medical system is the bigger reason.

I hope you can revisit that skepticism – it is well understood that the immune system (NOT surgery/chemo/RT) is the best defence against cancer – your body likely throws up cancer cells *daily* – the reason you don’t get cancer all the time is *because* your immune system detects and kills it (this is why AIDs patients, for example, often die of rare cancers like Kaposi’s Sarcoma). Vaccines, by their very nature, modify your immune system. In some cases this shifts it towards hyperactivity (likely explaining the explosion in inflammatory/immune mediated illnesses of children – asthma, food allergy, diabetes, eczema etc since they ramped up the childhood vaxxes in the 1980s). In other cases, it impairs its competence (hence the well reported association with shingles and Covid vaxxes) – it is well documented that the COVID vaxxes inhibit your immune system for the first 2 weeks after the shot. If said impairment is of longer duration, an association with cancer (and ‘turbo cancer’) is certainly plausible.

bespoke
bespoke
January 15, 2023 4:43 pm

flyingduk

It would help with credibility if you called out some of the outrageous claims instead of conspicuous silence. Helps build trust.

John H.
John H.
January 15, 2023 4:44 pm

Robert Sewellsays:
January 15, 2023 at 3:22 pm
ZK2A:

I thought the procedure was to lodge Aboriginal children with Aboriginal foster parents, in the name of “preserving their culture?”

How come I never hear the question “What is worth preserving about the Aboriginal Culture?”
From what I’ve seen of it, someone needs to pull the sheets up, tip toe out of the room and quietly close the door. Let nature take its course.
Aboriginal culture as practised before the white arrived is dead. Let it rest in peace and give it a little dignity. The selling and deification of the inherited trinkets of a dying culture is the same as the tomb

Always was, always will be, neolithic. They admit that with the 60,000 year continuous culture claim. To be fair to them it shouldn’t be neolithic it should be paleolithic. I have no idea why they take pride in a culture that has existed for 60,000 years. Relative to other cultures our cultures changes at incredibly high rates. That’s a feature not a bug.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 4:44 pm

Children offered to me, or my cohort, that is.

Driller, can I make a suggestion? With your turgid background discussing barely legal girls and “drilling” them, I wouldn’t be pressing the above comment too hard. Just some advice.

Tom
Tom
January 15, 2023 4:45 pm

Brilliant. The 2023 unAustralian lamb ad.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 15, 2023 4:47 pm

Explain the sigh, Duk. I don’t understand why looking down at every goulish report of someone dying on a hockey field is a tree or a forest.

To restate my analogy with Joseph ‘one death is a tragedy, 1 million deaths is a statistic’ Stalin:

‘One (sudden) death is an anecdote, One million sudden deaths is data’

Ie, you can’t argue that uncertainty about causality in any *one* case negates a massive spike in sudden deaths

Robert Sewell
January 15, 2023 4:47 pm

Frank:

And following that, remain trapped in a marriage to a closeted homosexual that likes to fill in the time that you are away by defiling the marital bed with rent boys. Hammer wielding rent boys. Rent boys from the underside of the San Fransisco drug culture.

Eloquent, my good man. Eloquent.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 15, 2023 4:49 pm

He wouldn’t go to Malmo for (at best) spurious reasons.

Not being a constant blogger; I must have missed the genesis of the Monty:Malmo thing.

I can easily see why he wouldn’t want to visit Malmo: it’s a dump. I once took the train over from Copenhagen on a day off work and spent a couple of hours wandering around.

The high spot was lunch at a restaurant aptly named “The Bastard”.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 4:51 pm

Behavior change!
The colossal social pressures of lockdowns and isolation meant people not living fully and noticing they early signs that bring them to the doctor, then telephone consultations that don’t get deep, then a last-days diagnosis of cancer. As for vaccines ‘turbocharging cancer, I am skeptical. I think the disruption of people’s interaction with the medical system is the bigger reason.

Just anecdotal.
Exactly right on, Chris. I was supposed to go in for elective surgery around early 2021. The procedures in order to get into a day procedure was extraordinary. I simply couldn’t be f’ed and let it go. I would have been one of the many.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 15, 2023 4:51 pm

Tell me, did you ever work in ER? How many young ER patients did you see coming into major hospitals on Saturday afternoon, which is peak sport time for young people?

I was an ER Registrar before ultimately streaming into Anaesthesia and ICU to let me work as a ‘Retrieval Dr’. I then spent 30+ years working at the ‘sharp end’. I also volunteered in contact sports (Motor Racing/Equestrian) for decades. I don’t think I *ever* saw an apparently healthy athlete drop dead suddenly without reason. Yes it happens, but its happening a lot more lately, particularly *after* the vax mandates, and appears to be caused by myocarditis – why are people so desperate to not see this>

Cassie of Sydney
January 15, 2023 4:52 pm

“Regardless, The Voice will win with a huge majority.”

I’m not so sure Bern. Whilst the young woke will vote yes, I have a strong feeling older Australians and new migrants will vote a resounding NO.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 4:54 pm

Ie, you can’t argue that uncertainty about causality in any *one* case negates a massive spike in sudden deaths

Except that I never made that claim. In a weird way it was you making such a curve ball suggestion.

Robert Sewell
January 15, 2023 4:54 pm

Tom:

The spice market in the main souk is one of the best on the planet – load up for your home cooking.

Are you allowed to bring it back home through customs?

Cassie of Sydney
January 15, 2023 4:55 pm

“Vickisays:
January 15, 2023 at 3:10 pm”

Great comment Vicki. Your comment echoes my feelings.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 15, 2023 4:56 pm

Some Clown asks:
What is the alternative?

The alternative to being taken from your home by strangers at the age of 4, placed in an Institution, raped, placed in other Institutions, raped, coming to the notice of Police, placed in an Institution, raped, going to Jail and dying at an early age?

You don’t know what the alternative might be?
Idiot.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 15, 2023 4:56 pm

Dr Faustus says:
January 15, 2023 at 4:49 pm

Not being a constant blogger; I must have missed the genesis of the Monty:Malmo thing.

I can easily see why he wouldn’t want to visit Malmo: it’s a dump. I once took the train over from Copenhagen on a day off work and spent a couple of hours wandering around.

The high spot was lunch at a restaurant aptly named “The Bastard”.

Did it match “Road Kill Cafe Route 66 ” Seligman Arizona?

Robert Sewell
January 15, 2023 4:57 pm

Boambee John:

Accept that a proportion of them will be born with FASD, be raped, bashed, ill-fed, not cared for, and will die in the dirt?

Of course.
Otherwise the Industry will have no purpose and the Left will lose one of its major cudgels with which it can attack White Australia.

Vicki
Vicki
January 15, 2023 4:57 pm

Great comment Vicki. Your comment echoes my feelings.

Thank you, Cassie. I feel that we think “alike” on so many issues.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 15, 2023 4:57 pm

flyingduk …..It would help with credibility if you called out some of the outrageous claims instead of conspicuous silence. Helps build trust.

Thanks, but I really have no axe to grind here and I don’t care a whit about my ‘credibility’ … I have put a life time of experience and research into this and have robustly formed my opinion. I am past trying to convince others – I merely offer my opinon as a form of ‘noblesse oblige’. Personally, I think thing have to get a LOT worse before they can get better and no amount of science and data at this point will suffice. Hitler didn’t stop the holocaust when he got sent a scientific paper or a legal injunction. He stopped when Berlin was in flames.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 4:57 pm

I was an ER Registrar before ultimately streaming into Anaesthesia and ICU to let me work as a ‘Retrieval Dr’. I then spent 30+ years working at the ‘sharp end’. I

Okay, so who were the casualties filling ER on Saturday afternoons? Sports has a contact element to it and eventually the sheer weight of numbers will lead to someone with serious injury – yes even heart attacks.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
January 15, 2023 4:59 pm

The spice market in the main souk is one of the best on the planet – load up for your home cooking.

Are you allowed to bring it back home through customs?

If it’s sealed with packaging it’s not a problem. I brought back two bottles of Mapuche spices from Santiago and Quarantine in Sydney didn’t bat an eyelid when I declared them, they were fine.

Tom
Tom
January 15, 2023 5:01 pm

Are you allowed to bring it back home through customs?

I have no idea, but I’d reckon the Doha souk is one of Qatar’s top exports, so I’d be astonished if you can’t.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2023 5:01 pm

Ed Casesays:
January 15, 2023 at 2:38 pm

In particular, stop removing Aboriginal children from their parents.
Apparently, it’s still going full steam ahead, 30 years later.

Perhaps Richard Cranium should join m0nty=fa of the tour of outback “communities”?

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 5:05 pm

flyingduk says:
January 15, 2023 at 4:24 pm

Thanks, Duk. I wasn’t sure so I thought I’d ask.

An old troll once described me as “chummy and unsubtle”, which in untrollspeak means “friendly and direct”.

Another one who liked name calling and ad hom.

bespoke
bespoke
January 15, 2023 5:07 pm

Chrissays:
January 15, 2023 at 4:02 pm

We have two sisters with behavioural problems stay one or two nights a week to give the mum some respite. Tiring for the wife but the girls are responding to less chaotic and more routeen household.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 5:10 pm

There were about 20K excess deaths in Australia, IIRC, in 2022.

Where can we find the number? Are they broken down by state too?

About 8K of these were COVID-related.

Okay

How many of the remaining 12K have to be vax-related,

Have no idea. Tell us how many you think were and why?

as opposed to lockdown-related or something else, to be significant?

I would guess lockdown related were a lot in view of the massive restrictions placed on folks to go and see a doc or go to hospital. it was f’ing appalling.

Vicki
Vicki
January 15, 2023 5:12 pm

Always was, always will be, neolithic. They admit that with the 60,000 year continuous culture claim. To be fair to them it shouldn’t be neolithic it should be paleolithic. I have no idea why they take pride in a culture that has existed for 60,000 years.

And I cannot explain why it is that I have such a strong connection with them. As I have posted here – I have a ceremonial ground on my property and continually find worked stone tools as I daily walk the land. There is an eel oven in a 200 year old Casuarina and even a possibility that a stone weir in the creek may have been a fish/eel trap. I feel their presence.

I collect Aboriginal desert art and years ago became friends with a couple who dealt in Aboriginal art. Through them I became acquainted with Central Desert people. I have witnessed all the tragedy and idiosyncrasies of contemporary Aborigines.

Of course they were a stone age – paleolithic – people. I have friends who contemptuously remark that the Aborigines were so primitive that they could not even boil water. It is a conundrum. But it does not change my special connection with these people that I hold in my heart.

Cats – call me a romantic, if you like. But it is what it is.

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 5:12 pm

DocDuk, you mentioned “prime suspects” earlier. I’ll give you my shopping list in descending order. And keeping in mind that there will be overlaps, maybe substantial (and that’s why I like the idea of stats + cases to get to the bottom of it).

– vaccine injury
– medical neglect
– cohort distortion (boomers)

The first will be my preference simply because of timing and the stats re age. The second the result of lockdowns and services curtailed or diverted and/or reluctance to see patients face to face. The third is a wild card – there are just so many of us and we’re all getting old and all at once.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

With your turgid background

*citation required.

discussing barely legal girls and “drilling” them

*citation required.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 15, 2023 5:12 pm

callisays:
at 4:03 pm
Look at the excess death numbers and then the individual cases. See if the cases support your hypothesis.
Something killed those people.

Since you reject any suggestion that it was a Mass Immunisation Campaign, what’s your hypothesis?
#1 Climate Change?
#2 Muslims?
#3 Leftism?
#4 Hole in the ozone layer?
#5 Aliens?
#6 The Voice?
#7 Rogue elements of the SAS?
#8 Trannies using the girls locker room?
#9 Not up to date with their Childhood Vaccination Schedule?
#10 Brittany Higgins knickers?

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2023 5:13 pm

on the tour …

Chris
Chris
January 15, 2023 5:15 pm

I hope you can revisit that skepticism – it is well understood that the immune system (NOT surgery/chemo/RT) is the best defence against cancer – your body likely throws up cancer cells *daily*

Duk, thank you for interesting information! Skepticism is denial if it cannot be revisited on evidence. Since I have anecdote not data, and although I imagine your career observations are very high quality, I hope to be open to learn more as more evidence comes in and I have high quality sources to choose information from.
Meanwhile my skepticism is a form of rational ignorance; I know enough now to refuse further boosters – pending better knowledge.

Now I want data. But the data I want is the economic harm done by Government. I think the GST data would be brilliant for categorising and estimating that. Value creation by labor-intensive business categories; employment losses, business closures by same categories would be nice. Suicides, bankruptcies and employment head counts month by month and by same industry categories would be good too.
And to compare the results with the subsidies employed and the end of subsidies…

John H.
John H.
January 15, 2023 5:17 pm

dover0beachsays:
January 15, 2023 at 5:06 pm
There were about 20K excess deaths in Australia, IIRC, in 2022. About 8K of these were COVID-related. How many of the remaining 12K have to be vax-related, as opposed to lockdown-related or something else, to be significant?

The first thing to do is a comparative analysis of other events where excess deaths occur. An obvious example is recessions. Recessions cause a rise in excess deaths that can persist for several years after the recession ends. I don’t think the rate of excess deaths is higher in recessions than we are currently experiencing but establishing a benchmark will be helpful.

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 5:18 pm

Anything yet on my support of Pfizer?

Pogria
Pogria
January 15, 2023 5:18 pm
Suzanne
Suzanne
January 15, 2023 5:19 pm

Top Ender, I lived in Doha for seven years and concur with Tom that the place to visit would be the souq. Loved the spice souq, the fabric souq and the jewellery souq, all located together near the Corniche. Close by is the fishing harbour so you may see the locals selling their catch. Maybe take a ride on a dhow. Pity the pearl markets are no longer.

Also agree that the hotels have great dining, alcohol available. The Pearl, further along the Corniche, did have some excellent places to eat but unfortunately, towards the end of our stay, the new Emir clamped down on service of alcohol there and it killed quite a few restaurants overnight. Don’t know if the ban has been lifted.

During our time there we always flew with Qatar Air and the service was excellent. They would however, not upgrade under any circumstances, unless you paid. In Doha, the business and first class lounges were great

Chris
Chris
January 15, 2023 5:20 pm

Cats – call me a romantic, if you like. But it is what it is.

You are a romantic. Isn’t it great to be alive!

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 15, 2023 5:25 pm

Anything yet on my support of Pfizer?

Lady, you’re either for Pfizer or against Pfizer.

You ain’t against Pfizer.

MatrixTransform
January 15, 2023 5:25 pm

it strikes me that thinking one is intellectually superior

dearest rosie,
i fear that you’re perhaps a little confused .
your feelings about me do not describe how I feel … they’re your feelings, not mine.

some people would call what you’re doing here ‘psychological projection’
you know, like taking something that angers or confuses you and then externalising it so you can site the motives and nastiness in various ‘others’

the thing is, and this is the kicker, that that sort of projection is often a device to excuse yourself of exactly what you claim others are doing.

listen to you arguing with the (ex)doctor about all the things you know for sure.
listen to your daily shtick … apparently everybody’s an idiot except you
listen to you moan about attacks … while attacking

smug?
pht, to my ear everything you post rosie, sounds smug

but I’m sure you’re just mis-understood right?

and it aint like I’m the first to mis-understand you here either

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 5:26 pm

Since you reject any suggestion that it was a Mass Immunisation Campaign,

Please check the time stamp on my reply to DocDuk.

No. I don’t expect an apology.

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 5:27 pm

Ed…you appear obsessed with Pfizer.

Anything you’d like to share with us?

bespoke
bespoke
January 15, 2023 5:28 pm

Gee Ed . Your solution is to leave them to be neglected and abused households rather then risk the same.
I have my own concerns about foster care because it has become risk avoiding because of ignorant clowns like yourself. Plus like schools it is being used to test out ‘progressive’ ideas.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 15, 2023 5:29 pm

Treaty ‘more important’ for Greens advisory group
Laura Placella
LAURA PLACELLA

The advisory group which informs the Australian Greens’ policy on Indigenous matters says one of its conditions for supporting the Indigenous voice to parliament is that it is subject to treaty negotiations.

Tjanara Goreng Goreng, a national co-convenor of the Greens’ First Nations Network, said treaty was “more important” than the two other elements of the Uluru Statement from the Heart: truth and voice, according to a Guardian Australia report.

“It’s important we have truth-telling, as truth-telling will set the parameters of what the treaty will be, and for us the voice should be included in the parameters for treaty,” Dr Goreng Goreng said.

Fellow co-convenor Dominic Wy Kanak added: “We support the establishment of a national First Nations voice, but it’s got to be determined by First Nations people and it’s got to be subject to treaty negotiations.”

Dr Goreng Goreng also said the federal government should include discussion of Indigenous sovereignty in this year’s referendum.

“My view is the voice, as recognised in the Constitution, will not provide what First Nations people have been asking for for a long time,” she said.

“We’ve always fought for our rights: human rights and rights to land. Our rights to land and country are about the recognition of prior sovereignty.

“Truth, treaty and voice as we’ve laid it out might be more difficult to do, but it’s more transformative for our country.”

But Dr Goreng Goreng said the Greens MPs, not the First Nations Network, would ultimately decide the party’s formal position.

“Our view is a Voice should be established. It’s the way in which it’s done. It has to be done properly,” she said.

“Our view … is we’d want our party to negotiate this as much as possible, to get the best outcome for First Nations people saying ‘our sovereignty is the most important thing for us’.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 15, 2023 5:33 pm

Ed – The hole in ozone layer has fixed global warming and US intelligence agencies are too busy chasing aliens to bother us.

Ozone layer healing, Earth set to avoid 0.5C of global warming (9 Jan)

US Received More Than 500 UFO Reports, Many Cases “Unresolved” (14 Jan)

I’m not aware of any news items about Brittany’s knickers.

Johnny Rotten
January 15, 2023 5:35 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
January 15, 2023 at 5:29 pm
Treaty ‘more important’ for Greens advisory group.

“Our view … is we’d want our party to negotiate this as much as possible, to get the best outcome for First Nations people saying ‘our sovereignty is the most important thing for us’.

There was no Aboriginal Sovereignty in 1788 and there is none in 2023. No Treaty is possible IMHO.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 5:37 pm

Driller please. You appear offended and all I was doing was trying to help you with sage advice .

You can accept or reject it, but going into angry denial mode isn’t the right way to go for a self describing manly man.

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 5:38 pm

I’m not aware of any news items about Brittany’s knickers.

Both stories could be connected. Plugging the ozone layer?

bespoke
bespoke
January 15, 2023 5:40 pm

but I really have no axe to grind here

Yes you do.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 15, 2023 5:41 pm

If it’s sealed with packaging it’s not a problem.

If factory processed and still in packaging shouldn’t be an issue if declared. If bought from a ‘souk’ or market likely to have dramas, I’d just declare it.

I’ve bought plenty of stuff home including wood, show them to the Quarantine staff and they’ll tell you whether kosher or not.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 15, 2023 5:44 pm

Gee Ed . Your solution is to leave them to be neglected and abused households rather then risk the same.

There are no solutions.
Aborigines are a different Race, it’s totally illogical to expect them to conform with the Societal Norms of the White Race and just plain vicious to blame them when they inevitably fail.

Here’s my opinion though.
No child should be removed from it’s mother while still at the breast, and after that, only if the child is in danger of imminent death.

Of course, removing Aboriginal Children is DOCS bread and butter in the towns and cities, and that’s what it’s all about on the Micro level.

MatrixTransform
January 15, 2023 5:44 pm

why are people so desperate to not see this

because they’ve been programmed to believe they are ‘bad’ people if they do.

shame … apparently it’s the post-modern currency

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 15, 2023 5:44 pm

When it comes to Brittany’s knickers, I think we can agree that is nothing to them.

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 5:45 pm

I’ve brought wooden items in – top of the suitcase for easy access and checking. It was a quiet day so the officer had time to answer some questions. They don’t want to see raw timber – it must be varnished or finished in some way. Even paint is okay.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 15, 2023 5:49 pm

why are people so desperate to not see this
Duk, they are desperately trying to convince themselves that they didn’t get conned and did something stupid.
As soon as Operation Warp Speed was announced in the middle of 2020 Karl Denninger warned that a corona virus vaccine was unlikely to work or be safe as considerable effort had been put into this after SARS Cov-1 and had been an abject failure. Note that nobody has explained what exactly they did differently this time.
Here’s Denninger’s latest on the topic:
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247865
RTWT

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 15, 2023 5:52 pm

Fellow co-convenor Dominic Wy Kanak added: “We support the establishment of a national First Nations voice, but it’s got to be determined by First Nations people and it’s got to be subject to treaty negotiations.”

Dominic Wy Kanak, eh?
How did Kanakas become First Nations people?
Reminds me of the Casinos on the Indian Reservations.
They’ve shut the gate on anyone identifying to get a share of the cash.

Anyway, among the various Tribes that are on the list, majority White is most common, followed by Minority Negro, most have no Indian Blood, but they’re recognised as such, so that’s the end of it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 15, 2023 5:53 pm

Keep solderin’ on, Champ.

Indolent
Indolent
January 15, 2023 5:53 pm

Oh, and who was it who gave St Ruth’s claim that the unvaxxed were going to concentration camps in cattle cars a pass, as “just a bit of exuberant hyper-bowl to get people to sit up and take notice”?

They are there. They have been built. Do you KNOW that they won’t be used in future? Just look at the past.

Robert Sewell
January 15, 2023 5:53 pm

FlyingDuk:

Personally, I think thing have to get a LOT worse before they can get better and no amount of science and data at this point will suffice. Hitler didn’t stop the holocaust when he got sent a scientific paper or a legal injunction. He stopped when Berlin was in flames.

No one will listen until the cost of NOT listening exceeds the cost of listening.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 15, 2023 5:58 pm

callisays:

January 15, 2023 at 5:45 pm

I’ve brought wooden items in – 

I brought a large chunk of wood back from North Africa in the early 2000’s.
Grumbled to Mrs P for the rest of the trip about lugging it everywhere assuring her that it was going in the bin at Tulla … nothing surer.
Hardwood, no paint or varnish.
Customs guy gave it the once over for obvious signs of pests, then gave us the thumbs up.
Didn’t know if I was happy or not about that.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 15, 2023 5:58 pm

There were about 20K excess deaths in Australia, IIRC, in 2022. About 8K of these were COVID-related.

Some say COVID was a PsyOp, there is no COVID.
What did the 8,000 die from, then?
Symptoms of death from COVID and death from the Vaccine are similar, I believe?

rosie
rosie
January 15, 2023 6:00 pm

They are there. They have been built. Do you KNOW that they won’t be used in future? Just look at the past.

Oh dear.

Leon L
Leon L
January 15, 2023 6:02 pm

FkyingDuk at 4:57
Personally, I think thing have to get a LOT worse before they can get better and no amount of science and data at this point will suffice.

I share your frustration and I agree with this statement.

Once seen it cannot be unseen.
You and I have lost our livelihoods for standing up for what we believe.
Difficult, but impossible to do anything else.

First do no harm.
Everyone has the right to refuse a treatment.
Medical confidentiality gone with proof of vaccination.
We haven’t even gotten to an understanding that the practice of medicine is dead without these tenets.

The propaganda narrative has blinded people.
Waking up will happen one at a time.
Check back in a year’s time.
It is a waste of time banging your head against a wall.

Rabz
January 15, 2023 6:02 pm

So, You Did Not Take the COVID-19 Shot, Why Not?

Because I’m not an hysterical gullible moron and was taught to “question everything”.

Next.

bespoke
bespoke
January 15, 2023 6:04 pm

shame … apparently it’s the post-modern currency

That will run out of value due to oversupply.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2023 6:04 pm

The Australia day lamb ad is pretty funny.
The first non sneery one in over a decade.
I wonder what changed.

Speedbox
January 15, 2023 6:10 pm

flyingduk says:
January 15, 2023 at 4:42 pm
it is well understood that the immune system (NOT surgery/chemo/RT) is the best defence against cancer – your body likely throws up cancer cells *daily* – the reason you don’t get cancer all the time is *because* your immune system detects and kills it

About 17-18 years ago an Oncologist explained the same to me (I wasn’t the patient). He said that ‘mutant’ cells were perpetually coursing though our bodies and our immune system hunts them down and kills them. But, for reasons unknown, sometimes our immune system ignores one of these mutants which subsequently multiply and may in turn become a malignant cancer. I recall him saying that if the reason why these mutant cells were not intercepted and killed by the immune system could be established and corrected, that discovery would go a very long way towards eliminating virtually all cancers.

I daresay that the research has progressed substantially in the past (near) two decades but the explanation to a non-doctor like myself was enlightening.

Makka
Makka
January 15, 2023 6:10 pm

Oh dear.

So you didn’t see VikPol beating the shit out of the population month after month, boasting about accosting grannies, herding people into the covid hotels , letting old people die alone or with strangers, closing down businesses for violations etc?

You think locking people up inside the camps already built is beyond these grubs if they deemed it “for our own good”? They can do it and when they do it will all be legal. Only airheads living is some fantasy existence could think otherwise.

Indolent
Indolent
January 15, 2023 6:11 pm

All this toing and froing about +PCR deaths and vaccinated deaths is pointless while it’s simply guess work either way.

All that would be required to prove whether a sudden death was vaccine related or not is an autopsy. Any sudden, unexpected death, particularly of a young person, should automatically be followed by an autopsy but how many actually are? Instead we’re told they turned their head too quickly or were walking too fast. How do they know? The embalmers speaking out were finding unique, rubbery clots of varying sizes in bodies. How many of these were actually investigated?

We can argue till the cows come home but until some genuine investigation is carried out there is no way of knowing for sure. However, it’s still worth noting the large volume of such previously unique occurrences. I’m no mathematician but those that are are talking about sigma events in the excess deaths figures.

miltonf
miltonf
January 15, 2023 6:13 pm

But it does not change my special connection with these people that I hold in my heart.

Having that is part of being Australian. Where else in the world would you find a place named Kurunjang or Turramurra? It’s the trashing of the British achievement in Australia that makes me angry and the lie that it was some sort of Garden of Eden here before 1788. The marxist wreckers just see Aborigines as another tool or a plaything in the case of ‘Dr’ HG Coombes.

Rabz
January 15, 2023 6:14 pm

Elliott’s an effing thug and all round mediocrity, who worked hand in hand with Gladslag and Health Hazzard to lock this state up

Ah yes, back when I was rendered an “untermensch”.

Cats, “the list” is long and there are many, many names on it.

#neverforgetneverforgive

P
P
January 15, 2023 6:15 pm
miltonf
miltonf
January 15, 2023 6:18 pm

Paul Hasluck wrote some good articles in Quadrant about the damage Coombes did to Aborigines during the McMahon era.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 6:20 pm

This discussion is going to turn out well. We have Hallward reciting Denninger and Maxi Transition opining on the psychology why people are reluctant to speculate on the stats.

Rabz
January 15, 2023 6:23 pm

Why did ParrotHead wear a Waffen SS Uniform to his 21st?

You have pictorial proof of this, Eddles?

BTW, you still haven’t released the footage from inside of the Payne’s ministerial orifice when britknee the knickerless commenced her drunken vomit laden angling for a multi-million dollar taxpayer handout.

Put up or shut up, you sad travesty of a man.

rosie
rosie
January 15, 2023 6:25 pm

Watched The Wheel of Time on Netflix, not bad though woke, of course. But the books were a bit woke too.
I’m now rereading book 1.
I remember thinking ages ago I would just read book 1 and then having to read the entire series.

Who’d be a Dark Friend?

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
January 15, 2023 6:25 pm

flyingduk says:
January 15, 2023 at 4:28 pm

Don’t let them get to you duk, I am just a lay person but have read thousands of pages of reports and studies of the Jab, I didn’t get one and never will. I believe that the truth will be told before long as there are too many people researching this issue for it to stay hidden.

Rabz
January 15, 2023 6:33 pm

WTF happened to us?

Collectivism.

bespoke
bespoke
January 15, 2023 6:37 pm

lord pretty flacko
@smdcapitalbaby
·
Jan 14
Replying to
@NorthmanTrader
I mean generation on left is raising generation on the right so u tell me

Fare question.

rosie
rosie
January 15, 2023 6:37 pm

Keep asking this question, if most Australians over 60 received Astrazeneca and most excess deaths are in over 60s, how is pfizer to blame?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 15, 2023 6:40 pm

as 2021 wore on, vaccines were rolled out along with a dodgy new POTUS

My memory of Jan 2021 is that the moderna jab was approved for general rollout *20* minutes after Biden took the oath of office.
That the petty partisan bureaucracy would give the go-slow order so that Operation Warp speed would not succeed while Trump was in office is just another sign of how the modern USA is not the America we remember.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
January 15, 2023 6:41 pm

Rabz says:
January 15, 2023 at 6:33 pm

WTF happened to us?

Collectivism.

Remember walking to school alone or with mates? remember playing OUTSIDE until called for dinner? remember games played without any or much equipment? remember hop skip jump in lunch hour? remember FUN? remember eating dirt? remember trying to cook tadpoles and eating them?

I do.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2023 6:46 pm

Ed Casesays:
January 15, 2023 at 4:56 pm
Some Clown asks:
What is the alternative?

The alternative to being taken from your home by strangers at the age of 4, placed in an Institution, raped, placed in other Institutions, raped, coming to the notice of Police, placed in an Institution, raped, going to Jail and dying at an early age?

It’s good to see that you are finally coming to a recognition of the role of state institutions in the child protection system.

To the extent that church institutions are still involved, they are now closely supervised by state agencies, which are responsible for supervising removals, adoptions, fostering, police, courts and jails. Most actions are now the direct responsibility of the state, and their failures, as you point out, are legion.

You don’t know what the alternative is? No room for your usual religious bigotry here.

Idiot.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 6:49 pm

rosie says:
January 15, 2023 at 6:37 pm

Keep asking this question, if most Australians over 60 received Astrazeneca and most excess deaths are in over 60s, how is pfizer to blame?

Excellent question Rosie. Although I suspect there are problems with the vaxes and may have actually caused serious problems, it’s only suspicion and I not running around blogs like a headless chook. The fact is that because of the bullshit that happened during the worst of it, we may never know the truth because the medical system was an abortion at the time. Stats would be useless.

rosie
rosie
January 15, 2023 6:50 pm

The elephant in the child abuse room is that the vast majority of abuse is perpetuated in the family home, by relatives.

Johnny Rotten
January 15, 2023 6:52 pm

rosiesays:
January 15, 2023 at 6:37 pm
Keep asking this question, if most Australians over 60 received Astrazeneca and most excess deaths are in over 60s, how is pfizer to blame?

Look at the latest USA Insurance data on the 40% increase in deaths (excess deaths) for the year 2021. They refer to those people covered by Group Insurance Policies of working age people from the early age 20s to age 64 years. The issue being, what has suddenly caused this? Climate Change?…………sarc.

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 6:54 pm

That the petty partisan bureaucracy would give the go-slow order so that Operation Warp speed would not succeed while Trump was in office is just another sign of how the modern USA is not the America we remember.

And yet that is counterintuitive to the narrative expressed here. Let’s draw the threads together.

If Warp Speed was designed to enhance Trump’s presidency and by extension ensure re-election…

Why would a dodgy and deadly vaxx be withheld? And even if it was withheld unbeknown to its toxicity, why wouldn’t it be denounced by the incoming and now established regime as a “Trump vaccine” and therefore double ungood by those loyal to the Dems?

Yet I’ve heard nothing to this effect. No memes circulating, nothing. The incoming regime was all for it, including mandates.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 6:54 pm

Remember walking to school alone or with mates?

Mum didn’t have a car then. We were mostly a one car family and dad took it to work.

remember playing OUTSIDE until called for dinner?

We didn’t have computer games so we made do.

remember games played without any or much equipment?

Yeah, parents couldn’t spread out the cash as they do now as we were poorer.

remember hop skip jump in lunch hour?

The girls played that, yeah.

remember FUN?

Yep

remember eating dirt?

Ummm no.

remember trying to cook tadpoles and eating them?

Are you freaking kidding me? Disgusting. NO!

cohenite
January 15, 2023 6:57 pm

The elephant in the child abuse room is that the vast majority of abuse is perpetuated in the family home, by relatives.

That’s certainly the case in 3rd nations’ homes.

JC
JC
January 15, 2023 6:57 pm

Good point Woddney Wodden although, you’re too stupid to understand the nuance of your comment.

Have life insurance companies raised premiums on folks that have been vaxxed as this group (life insurance) watch stats like hawks?

calli
calli
January 15, 2023 7:02 pm

Stats would be useless

Indolent nailed it in his post up thread. Autopsies will yield the truth, or if not the whole truth, a glimpse of light.

The same people who rely on statistics supplied by the government are the first to say don’t trust the government. Our society has become low trust overnight, yet we are still selective if our opinions are supported by the very people we distrust.

Rabz
January 15, 2023 7:05 pm

nambas – I had a seventies upbringing, so walking to and from school, dragsters and skateboards, park rugby league, collecting and selling golf balls from the nearby course and just being allowed to roam loose from morn ’til dusk. We thought ourselves to be indestructible.

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