2,554 thoughts on “Open Thread – Tue 24 Jan 2023”

  1. Lidia Thorpe may not have fully thought through the implications of declaring “the war ain’t over

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  2. Knuckle Dragger at 12:32 – I have not looked at it. Any speculation why that was so? Did they have any domestic animals around the Torres Strait? The tribes trading with Indonesia were in the more inhospitable parts of Australia.

  3. True. The CAE’S masquerading as university grant harvesting institutions have progressively undermined the culture of most regional cities.
    Numbersville being a representative example.

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  4. Boris Johnson, MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip, offering to serve himself in some fitting capacity.

    Advisor the General Muntgumery?

    Imagine those two at the map table!

    I can see it now. Let’s give the UKR 15 Chieftain Tanks and 1 week training for the UKR tank crews and Moscow here we come…………………………….They will come back if they are lucky in coffins……………..

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  5. Did they have any domestic animals around the Torres Strait? The tribes trading with Indonesia were in the more inhospitable parts of Australia.

    Im sort of amazed that Australia remained free of pigs, especially in the top end.
    I would have thought at some stage a bunch of pigs/piglets would have been brought across for trade or tucker and gone feral.

    Apparently those deeply caring for country and wise people were far better off relying on ‘increase ceremonies” to provide for them.

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  6. Lidia Thorpe may not have fully thought through the implications of declaring “the war ain’t over“

    She’s still sitting in the Senate, and drawing pay for doing so….

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  7. Critics say COVID-19 jabs kill young men. Do they have proof?

    Social media is rife with speculation that the vaccine is responsible for increased deaths.

    On the evening of January 2, US football player Damar Hamlin collapsed on the field after colliding with an opponent. He suffered a cardiac arrest and needed to be resuscitated twice. Within hours, social media was full of speculation that the 24-year-old Buffalo Bills star was the victim of a COVID-19 jab: his heart, it was speculated, having been dangerously weakened by the vaccination.

    The British cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra tweeted about the incident. “One obvious question many are asking is whether he had the mRNA jab,” he wrote, going on to point out that myocarditis (heart inflammation) – a side-effect linked to the vaccine – increases “sudden cardiac death risk in contact sports”, where “blunt impact to the chest” is common.

    Fortunately, Hamlin’s condition is improving: he was discharged from hospital on January 11 and is further rehabilitating at home.

    The link between vaccines and heart problems is a theory that gained momentum recently, with the Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen calling for a halt to the roll-out of mRNA vaccines such as Pfizer and Moderna.

    “The mRNA vaccines are not safe, not effective and not necessary,” he told Parliament last month. “The government’s current policy on the mRNA vaccines is on the wrong side of medical ethics, is on the wrong side of scientific data, and ultimately, it will be on the wrong side of history.”

    On January 11, he lost his job as the party’s whip because of his comments.

    So what is driving this renewed wave of vaccine scepticism? Does the vaccine actually affect the heart? And even if it does, do the benefits still outweigh the risks?

    A renewed fear

    While there have always been anti-vaxxers, this new concern is drawing in people from outside of usual conspiracy theory circles. In a recent Journal of Insulin Resistance article, Malhotra praised vaccines as “one of medicine’s greatest achievements”. He was one of the first doctors to receive two doses of Pfizer to protect his patients and appeared on TV’s Good Morning Britain encouraging vaccine uptake.

    “Traditional vaccines are one of the safest medicines we’ve got,” he says. “They are the Holy Grail of medicine, and it was not even a possibility for me that they could do any harm.”

    But the death of his father changed his mind. Dr Kailash Chand, former deputy chairman of the British Medical Association, was a seemingly fit 73-year-old, when he suffered a fatal cardiac arrest last July.

    A post-mortem revealed severe blockages in two of three major arteries. Even though Chand had his booster vaccine six months earlier, his son believes it was a factor.

    “I knew my dad’s medical history inside out,” says Malhotra. “He was one of the fittest guys I knew, who kept up his 10,000 steps a day even in lockdown. Just a few weeks before we were walking up mountains together.

    “We did some heart scans a few years earlier and all was clear, so when the post-mortem showed severe blockages, I couldn’t understand it, even though it was my [area of] expertise.

    “At the time, people were trolling me, saying it was the vaccine, and I got angry and blocked them, because that was not my mindset. But then I started to notice increased incidences in cardiac deaths and I started to wonder.”

    A worrying increase in heart deaths

    Malhotra is right to say that heart deaths have increased alarmingly in the past few years. The British Heart Foundation says there have been about 30,000 more deaths than expected involving heart disease since the pandemic began, more than 230 additional deaths over expected rates each week.

    In some weeks last year, there were more than 1000 excess deaths with cardiovascular disease mentioned on the death certificate. But if we are looking for a reason for the rise, there are plenty to choose from without needing to point a finger at COVID-19 vaccines.

    A COVID-19 infection itself is known to raise the risk of a stroke and heart attack, so the virus was likely to be a significant factor in the increase, at least in the first year of the pandemic.

    Turmoil within the UK health service is also taking its toll. There has been widespread disruption to heart care services since “Protect the NHS [National Health Service]” mandates were enacted by the government, meaning patients often did not get critical treatment in time.

    While suspected heart attack patients should be picked up by ambulance within 18 minutes, that has risen to 48 minutes, and there are 350,000 heart patients currently waiting for time-sensitive treatment, an increase of 50 per cent since the pandemic began.

    These systemic problems have been worsened by lockdowns and work-from-home edicts that led to more sedentary lifestyles and a rise in alcohol intake at a time when Britain was already facing historic levels of obesity and heart disease.

    While Malhotra acknowledges that other causes are a factor, he is convinced vaccines are also playing a role. He cites Pfizer’s own trial data that showed there were four cardiac arrests in those who took the vaccine compared with just one in the placebo group.

    And he points to a study published in the journal Circulation by US cardiologist Dr Steven Gundry, who said inflammatory markers in his patients soared after they received vaccines, taking their five-year heart attack risk to 25 per cent from 11 per cent.

    “That is a massive jump,” he says. “If I decided to smoke 40 cigarettes a day, ate junk food, drank and didn’t exercise I couldn’t get anywhere near that.”

    The Gundry study was heavily criticised, and has been significantly amended to make clear the biomarker increases were observational, there was no control group, no unvaccinated patients were included and no statistical comparison was conducted.

    A link to vaccines and heart problems

    It is certainly true that some people have experienced heart problems following the Moderna and Pfizer mRNA vaccines.

    The UK Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) asks doctors to report side effects via its “Yellow Card” scheme, and since the vaccine roll-out there has been a steady trickle of heart complaints suspected to be linked to the jabs.

    Until last November 23, the MHRA had fielded 851 reports of myocarditis linked to the Pfizer vaccination. There have also been a further 579 reports of pericarditis – an inflammation of the lining outside the heart – linked to the COVID-19 jab.

    Most cases were mild, with individuals recovering in a short time. However, there have been seven deaths.

    By comparison, there were 241 reports of myocarditis and 226 reports of pericarditis linked to the Oxford AstraZeneca jab, and six deaths. For Moderna there were 251 reports of myocarditis and 149 of pericarditis, and two deaths.

    The problems are only now coming to light because Phase 3 clinical trials have too few people enrolled to pick up rare events, particularly if the heightened risk occurs in a small subgroup, such as young men.

    But although these figures may seem high, they must be set against the sheer volume of vaccinations carried out since 2020.

    By last October, 53 million first doses had been administered in Britain, and more than 90 million boosters. Of these, Pfizer makes up 57 per cent of all jabs, AstraZeneca 29 per cent and Moderna 14 per cent.

    So, although the risk is there, it is very small. Overall, the myocarditis reporting rate for Moderna is about 14 complaints for every million doses, for Pfizer it is 10 in a million and for AstraZeneca, five in a million. For pericarditis, the reporting rate is eight in a million doses for Moderna, six in a million for Pfizer and five in a million for AstraZeneca.

    Britain would usually expect about 60 new cases of myocarditis per million people each year, and 100 new cases of pericarditis, so it does seem possible that the vaccines have caused a rise in the normal background rate.

    However, it is also important to remember that COVID-19 also carries a risk of myocarditis, and one that is far higher than the vaccine, at 1500 cases per million infections.

    This is why experts believe that the benefits of a jab far outweigh the risk.

    The British Heart Foundation says: “The scientific consensus is that the benefits of COVID-19 vaccination, including a reduced risk of severe illness or death, far outweigh the very small risk of rare side-effects like myocarditis or pericarditis for the vast majority of people, especially as people get older.

    “This is why it’s particularly important if you’re over 50 that you have a booster when offered it to give you even greater protection.”

    An increased risk in young men

    For younger people, particularly young men, the risk does seem to be higher, which could explain why people are linking the vaccine to the collapse of athletes such as Hamlin.

    Rumours about the vaccine affecting sports stars started circulating after Denmark’s Christian Eriksen suffered on-field cardiac arrest during the Euro 2020 championship.

    A study published in the European Heart Journal in 2021 also suggested that myocarditis can increase the risk of life-threatening heart arrhythmias caused by a blunt impact to the chest, particularly in contact sports.

    Inter Milan has since confirmed that Eriksen had not been vaccinated at the time of his collapse, and despite claims on social media, there does not appear to be a significant rise in players collapsing in recent years.

    However, it remains the case that younger men are more at risk following the vaccine. One large European study estimated that in the week following a second Pfizer jab there would be about 27 more cases of myocarditis per million in 12- to 29-year-old males than would be expected in an unvaccinated population. For Moderna, there would be an extra 132 cases per million.

    Longer follow-ups find more cases. A second European study suggested that within 28 days of a second mRNA jab there would be an extra 57 cases of myocarditis than usual for males aged 16 to 24 with Pfizer, and 188 per million with Moderna.

    But the benefits appear to outweigh the risks.

    A major review by the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention found that although there would be up to 47 more cases of myocarditis in 12- to 29-year-old males per million vaccines, the jabs would prevent 11,000 COVID-19 infections, 560 hospitalisations, 138 ICU admissions and six deaths.

    It is the reason that most experts do not believe the heart issues are cause for alarm.

    Dr Chenyu Sun, of Saint Joseph Hospital Chicago, who recently carried out a meta-analysis of myocarditis after vaccination involving 58 million people, says: “When myocarditis or pericarditis develop after a COVID-19 vaccination, the symptoms are usually less severe and largely self-remitting compared with other cases.

    “As a clinician, I strongly recommend that people get a COVID-19 vaccine unless there are absolute contraindications such as known allergies.”

    A possible explanation

    So what is it about mRNA vaccines that is driving this small increased risk?

    The new vaccines work by delivering a genetic blueprint that teaches the body to produce the spike protein that COVID-19 uses to enter cells. This process usually lasts a few weeks before the mRNA breaks down and no longer conveys its message.

    Some experts believe these spike proteins cause damage similarly to how the virus itself can trigger clotting abnormalities and damage to the cells that line blood vessels.

    There may also be an issue known as “molecular mimicry” where the antibodies produced against COVID-19 also react with important heart muscle proteins, causing inflammation.

    The mRNA vaccines may also cause the over-activation of cells known as cytokines. These act as flags, warning immune cells that it is time to ramp up and clear out an infection.

    However, too many can cause a deadly condition known as a “cytokine storm” in which the immune system runs wild.

    Experts believe mRNA jabs may be particularly prone to this because they contain a compound called polyethylene glycol, a non-pharmaceutical ingredient added that helps maintain the water content in the vaccine.

    The compound may stimulate a stronger immune response, and men may be more at risk from a reaction because testosterone boosts the effect. Testosterone levels tend to peak in adolescence and early adulthood, which might explain some age and sex disparity in reaction to the jab.

    Chinese researchers have also proven it is possible to induce myocarditis by injecting mice with mRNA vaccines.

    However, a report in The Lancet suggested rare heart problems may simply be a side effect of all vaccines, and not specific to COVID-19 vaccines, or the spike protein. They suggest that the number of reports seems greater because of the large scale of the vaccination roll-out, as well as the unprecedented scrutiny it has received.

    What now?

    Experts acknowledge they are still unsure whether there are long-term heart risks associated with the vaccine.

    The British Heart Foundation is now looking into whether myocarditis, caused by either the vaccine or the virus, can cause scarring of the heart muscle that might lead to future health problems.

    Certainly, that is what some experts fear is happening, and why they want the issue taken more seriously.

    Malhotra believes the jab can rapidly speed up the development of heart disease, and now includes vaccine damage in his diagnoses of patients.

    “When you’ve got a pre-dose angiogram and a post-dose one that shows damage that usually takes years to trigger, you have to think of the most likely explanation,” said Malhotra.

    Last November, Heidelberg University carried out postmortems on 25 people who had died unexpectedly within 20 days of a COVID-19 vaccination and linked four deaths to myocarditis, although it stopped short of saying the vaccine was to blame.

    Based on the report, Florida Surgeon General Dr Joseph Ladapo has launched a study with the University of Florida to look for signs of myocarditis in people who died within a few weeks of receiving a COVID-19 vaccination.

    However, the majority of experts are still unconvinced that vaccines are having a significant impact in death figures. So far in Britain there have been 15 deaths from myocarditis or pericarditis, while it is estimated that vaccination in Britain saved 112,000 lives in the first year alone.

    “Following a careful assessment of the available data, we concluded that the evidence does not support an association between the COVID-19 vaccines and an increased risk of cardiac-related death,” a MHRA spokesman said.

    “As part of our robust safety surveillance processes we continue to evaluate emerging safety information and will take action to protect public health if new safety concerns arise.

    “Vaccines are the best way to protect people from COVID-19 and have already saved tens of thousands of lives,” the spokesman added.

    Need to know

    Does the COVID-19 vaccine cause heart problems?

    There have been rare cases of inflammation of the heart muscle (myocarditis) following the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines in the UK. Patients with this condition tend to report mild symptoms such as chest pain, shortness of breath and abnormal heart rhythms, which usually quickly resolve.

    In serious cases it can cause abnormal heart rhythms, or make it more difficult for the heart to pump blood. So far, there have been 15 deaths linked to heart inflammation after the vaccine, although most of these patients had serious underlying conditions.

    COVID-19 itself is much more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine. It is estimated that vaccination in Britain saved 112,000 lives in the first year alone.

    What is myocarditis and pericarditis?

    Myocarditis means that your heart muscle is inflamed and usually happens after catching a virus. Pericarditis is inflammation of the lining about the heart.

    What is the risk of getting myocarditis or pericarditis after the vaccine?

    The risk alters with age, but is small for all age groups. Those aged 18-29 are most at risk, although there have been just 24 reports of suspected myocarditis or pericarditis for every million first doses of the Pfizer vaccine and 29 per million for a second dose, since the roll-out began.

    The risk falls with age, with just four reports from a first dose for the over-70s. For the Moderna jab, the highest risk was also in the 18-29 year age group with 61 reports. The risk of myocarditis from COVID-19 itself is about 1500 in a million. Research suggests that heart inflammation – myocarditis or pericarditis – is no more likely to be triggered by a COVID-19 vaccine than any other vaccine, including the flu jab.

    Are children and young people at risk?

    In the UK up to last November 23, there were 83 cases of myocarditis or pericarditis reported in under-18s following the Pfizer vaccine, an average of 11 cases per million doses. Pfizer is the only vaccine recommended for children in Britain. There have been no reports of suspected myocarditis or pericarditis following booster doses in under-18s.

    Is there a risk of cardiac arrest from the COVID-19 vaccine?

    No. There is no evidence that people are at risk of cardiac arrest in the days or weeks following the vaccine. A large study of four million vaccinated people in Denmark, published in the BMJ magazine also found there were no deaths or diagnoses of heart failure in people who were diagnosed with myocarditis or pericarditis after being vaccinated. In contrast, COVID-19 can significantly increase your risk of cardiac arrest and stroke.

    How would I know if I had myocarditis after the vaccine?

    Symptoms generally appear within three to five days, and usually no more than a week, after having the vaccine. They include pain or tightness in the chest, which may spread across the body; pain in the neck that may spread across the shoulders and/or arms; shortness of breath when walking or doing gentle exercise; difficulty breathing when resting, or feeling light-headed, and feeling palpitations and feeling sick.

    Some people have reported feeling a faster heartbeat in the days after their COVID-19 vaccine. This can be part of the body’s normal immune response to the vaccine and is not normally a cause for concern.

    I’ve had myocarditis or pericarditis in the past, should I have a COVID-19 vaccine?

    Yes. There is currently no evidence that people with a history of myocarditis or pericarditis are at increased risk of a relapse following the COVID-19 vaccine. However, you should always take advice from your GP or consultant.

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  8. Im sort of amazed that Australia remained free of pigs, especially in the top end.
    I would have thought at some stage a bunch of pigs/piglets would have been brought across for trade or tucker and gone feral.

    Establishing a population (or outbreak) isn’t always as easy as it may at first seem.
    A few make it across, but aren’t enough to sustain a breeding population & die out.
    Some pig skeletons at the top of Cape York apparently predate the arrival of Cook.

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  9. However, you should always take advice from your GP or consultant.

    Unless The State has a mandate, in which case consultation is pointless.

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  10. She’s still sitting in the Senate, and drawing pay for doing so….

    She’ll be easy to find then, when hostilities recommence.
    Will she go down Trains/Butch & Sundance style, or will she surrender & be off to Ozstalag III for the duration of the shootout?

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  11. Im sort of amazed that Australia remained free of pigs, especially in the top end.
    I would have thought at some stage a bunch of pigs/piglets would have been brought across for trade or tucker and gone feral.

    Water Buffalo and crocodiles turned up instead.

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  12. A few make it across, but aren’t enough to sustain a breeding population

    Getting eaten when you first hit the beach does make it difficult!

    Do you think we should breed these things? Nah! Want bacon now!

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  13. Cos his pals were taking his cut?

    Lysander – I suspect the EU told him clean your house and by the way fire these ten people, or you ain’t getting Leopards. He fired the ten people on Monday and the Leopards started on their way yesterday.

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  14. Sham and farce is exactly what it all is but it’s real purpose is to advance Marxism not Aborigines as well as enriching more than a few grifters along the way. And by advancing Marxism I mean dividing society and wrecking the economy.

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  15. JR
    Water Buffalo and crocodiles turned up instead.
    Crocs yes, Buffalo were more recent.
    https://www.dcceew.gov.au/environment/invasive-species/publications/factsheet-feral-water-buffalo-bubalus-bubalis#:~:text=Water%20buffalo%20were%20imported%20to,spread%20across%20the%20northern%20floodplains.
    Water buffalo were imported to Australia in the 19th century to supply meat to remote northern settlements. The settlements and their buffalo were abandoned in 1949 and, despite harvesting for meat, hides and as hunters’ trophies, feral buffalo spread across the northern floodplains.

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  16. Containment is one thing (cf. George Kennan), actively contending against either power at the risk of nuclear war is another thing altogether.

    That is always risked in any containment strategy if matters begin to escalate.

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  17. Carrie (who must be one helluva good root) may or may not share this view.

    Language please, driller. A well bred criminal type like you to be using such terms? It’s unexpected.

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  18. That is always risked in any containment strategy if matters begin to escalate.

    One of the goals of containment as practiced under Truman and subsequently was precisely to avoid such escalations.

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  19. Australian property owners have been urged to start paying a weekly ‘rent’ tax to indigenous groups based on their ancestral claim to the land.

    Under the ‘Pay the Rent’ model proposed by a campaign of the same name, and backed by celebrities, homeowners would voluntarily pay a percentage of their income to a body led by Aboriginal elders and administered without any government oversight or intervention.

    One per cent of weekly wages is the level suggested by Robbie Thorpe, a veteran Aboriginal rights activist from Melbourne who ran a similar scheme in Fitzroy in the 1990s.

    Has to be a piss take surely?

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  20. Roger

    On a positive note, their TV ratings this year are reportedly “abysmal.”

    Tennis has become so boring. Rackets are metal and and the guys are 7 1/2 tall. The court parameters has remained the same so it’s almost impossible to see a long rally, which really was what the game was about. What you see are massively tall guys smashing the serve. Boring!

    The old days with slower response wooden rackets was so much better.

    Variations of this has occurred in most sports.

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  21. Be at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let every new year find you a better man.

    = Benjamin Franklin

    I never realised Franklin was a Miss America candidate.

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  22. Lidia’s frontier wars are strangely not noted by the early settlers.
    There’s not a single story or recording of any wars in my family or the district with natives. They weren’t considered a problem of any consequence throughout the Wimmera.

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  23. Eyriesays:
    January 25, 2023 at 11:39 am
    And when was the last Politician to fight…on the front line of any war?
    John Gorton was a fighter pilot over Singapore, and wasn’t Tim Fischer at Firebase Coral, in 1968?

    I suspect the group who gave up their political careers after it had begun and volunteered to go to war is somewhat smaller.

    IIRC, Harold Holt volunteered early for the Second AIF, and spent some time in an artillery unit, but I don’t think that he went overseas.

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  24. Lidia’s frontier wars are strangely not noted by the early settlers.

    There’s a curious lack of any forensic evidence of any such wars – at Forrest River, for example, a police party of eleven men were supposed to have shot and burned “Maybe two, maybe three hundred blackfella’s.” The only forensic evidence ever found were a few bones no -one was prepared to identify as human, some shell casings, not from police rifles, and two campfire sites, big enough to “boil the billy” on.

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  25. Lidia’s frontier wars are strangely not noted by the early settlers.

    Nor the British Army records.

    The occasional skirmish didn’t warrant battle honours.

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  26. ‘The community will probably note that here we are asking you, a white Police Commissioner, his thoughts. Do you understand how some people might bristle at that whole situation?’

    Waleed Aly asked this. FMD

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  27. Over at Sparty’s substack blog (to which it appears Dover’s blog does not permit links so a text extract is reproduced below) Sparty points out that ASIC now charges businesses $290 each year for the privilege of receiving an email – an increase of 25% on last year.
    Snaffle Snaffle goes the govt, once again.

    The actual ASIC link is https://asic.gov.au/for-business/running-a-company/annual-statements/

    Government Inflation Hits 25%
    STEPHEN SPARTACUS JAN 24

    Rising inflation. Growing government. Growing tax take. I wonder if these things are related.
    If you have the circumstance to own/operate a company, you will have had the pleasure of receiving a “ASIC Annual Company Statement” for review. Basically, ASIC sends you (or your agent) and email once a year to ask you to confirm the information in their data base is correct. Information that you are legally obliged to given them any way.
    And for this privilege of receiving an annual email from ASIC? $290. This is a 25% increase on last year’s fee of $232. 25% increase.
    At least for a $45 for car pink slip (in NSW) the mechanic actually has to check the lights, horn and brakes. ASIC … sends an email.
    According to the ABS, there were around 1.1 million companies in Australia at 30 June 2022. At $290 a pop, that generates using that long lost skill of mathematics.
    Which at $290 per generates $320 million in annual revenue. Oh and the 25% increase, sucked out an additional $64 million from the Australian private sector.
    It’s amazing the long list of fake and useless services our governments create to justify extracting money by force from citizens.

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  28. thefrollickingmolesays:
    January 25, 2023 at 1:15 pm
    JR
    Water Buffalo and crocodiles turned up instead.
    Crocs yes, Buffalo were more recent.

    Thank you thefrollickingmole

    I stand corrected.

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  29. The old days with slower response wooden rackets was so much better.

    Yep. They should change the rules to make it a better spectacle. Starting with no second serve.

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  30. One of the goals of containment as practiced under Truman and subsequently was precisely to avoid such escalations.

    And yet still a close run thing in ’62, thankfully sane heads prevailing on both sides.

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  31. feelthebernsays:

    January 25, 2023 at 7:03 am

    min, if you google stories for people in your situation you can see one or two journo’s seem to be all over the problems you are faced with.

    3AW are advertising for people to join a class action against Aveo(?).

  32. Davey Boysays:
    January 25, 2023 at 1:34 pm
    Over at Sparty’s substack blog (to which it appears Dover’s blog does not permit links so a text extract is reproduced below) Sparty points out that ASIC now charges businesses $290 each year for the privilege of receiving an email – an increase of 25% on last year.
    Snaffle Snaffle goes the govt, once again.

    The actual ASIC link is https://asic.gov.au/for-business/running-a-company/annual-statements/

    Government Inflation Hits 25%
    STEPHEN SPARTACUS JAN 24

    And I wonder whether that increase fed into the ABS crooked statistic for a CPI (Corrupted Price Index) of 7.8% for the December 2002 Quarter. I can’t wait for my Age Pension increase, effective March the 21st, 2023……………………..

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  33. Arming Ukraine a ‘big business’ opportunity – Zelensky

    The Ukrainian leader touted ties to Blackrock, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan in another weapons plea

    Kiev is already working with some giants of the finance and military industry, offering “big business” opportunities to any American company interested in working there, President Vladimir Zelensky has boasted in a video message to an association of US enterprises.

    Addressing the National Association of State Chambers (NASC) meeting in Boca Raton, Florida on Monday, Zelensky argued that “American business can become the locomotive that will once again push forward global economic growth.”

    “We have already managed to attract attention and have cooperation with such giants of international financial and investment world as Blackrock, JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs,” Zelensky said. “Such American brands as Starlink or Westinghouse have already become a part of our Ukrainian Way.”

    According to Zelensky, “everyone can become a big business by working with Ukraine, in all sectors: from weapons and defense to construction, from communication to agriculture, from transport to IT, from banks to medicine.”

    He also lavished praise on the weapons the US has showered upon Kiev.

    “Your brilliant defense systems, such as HIMARS or Bradleys, are already uniting our history of freedom with your enterprises. We are waiting for Patriots. We are looking closely at Abrams. Thousands of such examples are possible,” Zelensky said in the video.

    By the Pentagon’s own estimates, the US has sent over $20 billion worth of weapons, ammunition and supplies to Ukraine in 2022. However, most of that came out of the US military stockpiles. The Department of Defense did award contracts worth hundreds of millions to Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and other manufacturers to replenish some of the depleted supplies.

    Russia has repeatedly warned the West that continued deliveries of weapons to Ukraine only prolonged the conflict and risked a direct confrontation between Moscow and NATO.

    The Ukrainian president revealed in December that his government had hired Blackrock – a major US asset management company – to “advise” Kiev on how to use reconstruction funds provided by Western governments. He has estimated the cost of rebuilding Ukraine from the ongoing conflict would be at least $1 trillion.

    He has estimated the cost of rebuilding Ukraine from the ongoing conflict would be at least $1 trillion. Plus 10% for Big Guy Biden & another 10% for Demorats and RINOs

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  34. “An off-the-shoulder number at a funeral?
    Mmkay.”

    Exactly what I thought too.

    Another reason why I can’t take her seriously, particularly her victim shtick re. online abuse.

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  35. thefrollickingmolesays:
    January 25, 2023 at 12:37 pm
    As noted above (in a jibe against Boris), Winston Churchill comes immediately to mind. There may be others.

    The frogs had quite a few resign and take up arms in WW1 & 2.

    As also did a bloke named Dreyfus.

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  36. Australian property owners have been urged to start paying a weekly ‘rent’ tax to indigenous groups based on their ancestral claim to the land.

    So many heads, so few dead bears for them to ram them up…

    Plenty of “off” for them to fornicate to though.

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  37. Zulu

    Given that almost all “Aborigines” today are of “mixed race”, shouldn’t this idea be treated as the farce and sham that it is?

    No. The part-indigenous should pay their rent in proportion to their non-indigenous ancestry. That would focus some tiny minds.

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  38. ‘The community will probably note that here we are asking you, a white Police Commissioner, his thoughts. Do you understand how some people might bristle at that whole situation?’

    The head of the local aboriginal community is very keen for the white NT PC to do something. And failing that the white AFP Commissioner or the white head of army.

    She was chased out of her home by youths wielding improvised weapons just last week.

    Waleed Ali is an insufferable race-baiting prig.

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  39. Black Ballsays:
    January 25, 2023 at 1:34 pm
    ‘The community will probably note that here we are asking you, a white Police Commissioner, his thoughts. Do you understand how some people might bristle at that whole situation?’

    The only people I know who are White are Albinos. Being Caucasian, a person’s skin is white/pinky/pale. And the only Black skinned people I have ever seen have come up from an underground Coal Mine or have come down from a coal fire chimney. Otherwise, every one is the same colour on the inside.

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  40. C.L.says:

    January 25, 2023 at 1:35 pm

    The old days with slower response wooden rackets was so much better.

    Yep. They should change the rules to make it a better spectacle. Starting with no second serve.

    And short skirts with frilly knickers.
    Tennising ladies usually have very nice legs.

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  41. Short sighted.

    Pub chain sacks 700 workers to avoid Australia Day penalty rates

    Hospitality giant Mantle Group has fired all of its casual employees and rehired them under a new agreement that ensures it does not have to pay them penalty rates on Australia Day.

    Just 10 days after winning full penalty rates for the first time in 22 years, Mantle’s workforce of up to 700 casuals across 15 venues were handed termination notices on Monday.

    Mantle immediately rehired the workers through a different entity with an agreement struck in 2019 that does not pay any weekend penalty rates.

    While the agreement pays public holiday rates at 225 per cent, Mantle’s job offer includes a blanket clause saying the employee agrees to work all public holidays, without penalty rates, and to swap them for other days decided by the company.

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  42. ‘Harold Holt volunteered…but I don’t think he went overseas.’ He tried it once but never got another go.

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  43. ‘The community will probably note that here we are asking you, a white Police Commissioner, his thoughts. Do you understand how some people might bristle at that whole situation?’

    Waleed Aly asked this. FMD

    Hmm by that logic isn’t Albo also a whitey? But I guess the Voice will fix that.

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  44. “never, ever, trust anybody else’s wiring

    FIFY.
    Was doing some 240 wiring once and asked “Is this dead?”
    “Yeah, all the 240 in the room is dead” was the reply.
    As is my wont, before I proceeded to strip it, I banging the bare end against a rack screw.
    Blew a 2mm hole in the top of said screw and also blew a 60A HRC fuse.
    “Well, it is now” says I.

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  45. ‘The community will probably note that here we are asking you, a white Police Commissioner, his thoughts. Do you understand how some people might bristle at that whole situation?’

    From a bloke who owes his reputation & well paid position to his ethnicity .. FFS!

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  46. BTW, I hear that the real Johnny Rotten is going to be the British ‘Singist’ in the next Eurovision Song Contest.

    Johnny and maybe Sid co write a song with Frank Ifield – I remember you, c**t.

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  47. Hmm by that logic isn’t Albo also a whitey? But I guess the Voice will fix that.

    No, as ‘Albo’ is everything to everyone……………….’I was brought up in a Housing Commission place by a Single Mum’…………………..BTW. No one else ever has. He is the only one in the World. ‘Sarc’

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  48. No. The part-indigenous should pay their rent in proportion to their non-indigenous ancestry. That would focus some tiny minds.

    Lidia Thorpe, 15/16th non- indigenous….

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  49. Tennis Australia ticking off the next box of wokedom:

    Indian tech giant Infosys is in its fifth year of a partnership with the Australian Open, and fresh from raising its global revenue and sales forecasts – and renewing its tennis partnership until 2026 – the company has a new focus: helping the Open achieve net-zero carbon emissions by 2030.

    Infosys has collaborated with Tennis Australia on a new prototype digital platform dubbed Engage, which it says will help Tennis Australia achieve a 50 per cent reduction in carbon emissions by 2030 and net-zero by 2040, in accordance with the UN Sports for Climate Change Action Framework.

    The platform will enable better transparency for each Australian Open event from 2023 onwards, across Scope 1, 2 and 3 emissions, he said.

    “It’s a big priority for us. We’ve been carbon-neutral as an organisation ourselves for a number of years, it’s something we’re really proud of, especially we’re a big global organisation of about 300,000 people,” Mr Groth said.

    “Having been through that journey ourselves it’s something that we’re then able to help our customers and our partners go through, and we’ve created this platform for the Australian Open that will be base lining this year, and fully functioning next year. It’s about measuring the Open’s emissions, the partners’ emissions, and then helping with what actions need to be taken to be carbon-neutral by 2040.

    “It’s a really important piece of work we’ve got with them.”

    Along with the new climate focus, Infosys is providing players at the Open with new AI-generated videos including game and competitor insights, along with ‘Get into the Zone’, a feature that plays video montages of the player’s previous exceptional performances to put them in the winning mindset before the match.

    Fans have access to new insights and experiences too through Match Centre 2.0, a feature on the AO website and mobile app that includes features such as AI commentary and rally analysis, as well as real-time predictions of match outcomes.

    The multinational company, which provides business consulting, IT and outsourcing services, this month raised its annual sales forecast, and said it was bullish on large clients’ need to cut costs and automate their systems.

    “Working with Infosys over the past five years has enabled us to set new benchmarks in fan engagement using digital technologies,” Australian Open chief executive Craig Tiley said.

    “This partnership has enabled us to deliver new innovative digital experiences year after year for everyone associated with the tournament. We are also going deeper and wider in our journey this year with truly meaningful use of technology for climate action.

    “We remain committed to making the Australian Open a global standard for a digitally-enabled sport that is inspiring, engaging, inclusive and sustainable.”

  50. Johnny and maybe Sid co write a song with Frank Ifield – I remember you, c**t.

    Frank wants to to do it but he is under contract. If that is what what you meant by c**t, only you didn’t leave enough spaces for the letters in the word contract. Are you a ‘preffessor’ of English in ‘Ocker’ per chance? Or just a T.W.A.T.?

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  51. One more sporting item from me before I head for a Carlton Draught preceding the commencement of social bowls, the ICC Test XI of 2022. Note who is captain, and who isn’t.

    1 Usman Khawaja (Aus)
    2 Kraigg Brathwaite (WI)
    3 Marnus Labuschagne (Aus)
    4 Babar Azam (Pak)
    5 Jonny Bairstow (Eng)
    6 Ben Stokes (c) (Eng)
    7 Rishabh Pant (wk) (Ind)
    8 Pat Cummins (Aus)
    9 Kagiso Rabada (SA)
    10 Nathan Lyon (Aus)
    11 James Anderson (Eng)

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  52. That doesn’t include the local militias which are likely to be twice that.

    By all accounts, the UKR have lost at least 100,000 plus dead. Then a lot more injured and maimed. They cannot sustain those losses. Russia can with a larger population. Game over soon.

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  53. Regarding casualties.
    It’s amazing how for almost 12 months they’ve been able to keep a lid on any footage of wounded soldiers.
    These guy go home at some stage & you’d imagine someone with a phone would video something for social media.
    But there’s been nothing from anyone.

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  54. help Tennis Australia achieve a 50 per cent reduction in carbon emissions by 2030 and net-zero by 2040

    what are we talking about? plastic bags over the heads of players?

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  55. The platform will enable better transparency for each Australian Open event from 2023 onwards, across Scope 1, 2 and 3 emissions, he said

    i wonder does it include emissions of those who drove in for the tennis?
    how about those who flew across the globe?
    what about all the televisions turned on watching it?

    Tennis Australia has turned into little more than a wank-fest

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  56. how about those who flew across the globe?

    There should be a video wall at the venue showing the carbon footprint of those involved.

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  57. dover0beachsays:
    January 25, 2023 at 9:44 am
    Appealing to a bizarre hope that culture wars can be won in the west by an ex KGB colonel reestablishing the Russian Empire is not a reason.

    No one thinks this, Dot.

    Not so much now but there was plenty at the start.

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  58. Mr Rotten at 1:39 pm

    a recent letter (shown to me this month) from a government body quotes a “CPI of 3.6% as determined by the ABS”

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  59. “We remain committed to making the Australian Open a global standard for a digitally-enabled sport that is inspiring, engaging, inclusive and sustainable.”

    Meanwhile, all of the spectators and sportspeople and admin people and anyone else breathes out CO2. And to get to the Australian Open, the Overseas players and others have to fly in on Aeroplanes that belch out CO2 to get to Melbourne. Let alone the local players who live around Australia and need to get to Melbourne.

    When confronted with this, Tennis Elbow Australia were unavailable for any comment. I wonder why?

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  60. Boambee John says:
    January 25, 2023 at 1:31 pm
    Eyriesays:
    January 25, 2023 at 11:39 am
    And when was the last Politician to fight…on the front line of any war?
    John Gorton was a fighter pilot over Singapore, and wasn’t Tim Fischer at Firebase Coral, in 1968?

    I suspect the group who gave up their political careers after it had begun and volunteered to go to war is somewhat smaller.

    IIRC, Harold Holt volunteered early for the Second AIF, and spent some time in an artillery unit, but I don’t think that he went overseas.

    My father trained at Pukka in the 2/4th Field Regiment (artillery) circa 1940. As they were leaving Pukka, my father told me, there was a somewhat dejected-looking solitary man waving to the Unit as it departed. My Dad asked his fellow gunners who was that man and why was he remaining behind. Dad was told “That’s Harold Holt – he’s a politician”.

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  61. Regarding casualties.
    It’s amazing how for almost 12 months they’ve been able to keep a lid on any footage of wounded soldiers.
    These guy go home at some stage & you’d imagine someone with a phone would video something for social media.
    But there’s been nothing from anyone.

    You’re not on Telegram, ftb?

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  62. After a while, all social media platforms evolve into just pretty ladies & dogs.
    According to social media, 95% of the global dog population are golden retrievers.

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  63. ‘Harold Holt volunteered…but I don’t think he went overseas.’ He tried it once but never got another go.

    So, he became a midget sub commander.
    The truth had to come out eventually.

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  64. Pub chain sacks 700 workers to avoid Australia Day penalty rates

    Total mystery why.

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  65. Once the war in Ukraine ends, their biggest issue will be the depopulation that they’ve experienced.
    If 10% of your population has left & you already had a declining birth rate, what do you do?
    Maybe NATO will explore Operation Keelhaul 2.0.

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  66. Perhaps Dover , a poor choose of words on dots part.
    But plenty of people expressed that the west deserved to be beaten because of its current social trajectory.

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  67. Daily Mail

    The two-word mantra kids running wild in Australia’s most lawless town use when caught by cops – as ‘FIFO PM’ is mocked over cut and run visit

    Kids running wild in Alice Springs crime spree
    Parents drive kids to crime as they won’t go to jail
    If caught they repeat two words to police, ‘doli incapax’
    Latin from the Middle Ages meaning kids not culpable
    Locals mocking PM for ‘FIFO’ visit with entourage
    Coles stabbing and hand sanitiser drinking while PM there

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  68. ?BREAKING: Speaker McCarthy has officially rejected the appointments of Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell to the House Intelligence Committee.

    Naw, poor Fang Fang.

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  69. I reckon a similar amount of people who were Rootin’ for Putin were tearing up at Penn giving Zelensky the Oscar.
    Ie, small segments from different parts of the global population.

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  70. Lots of Ukraine content?

    Yes and no. You can be arrested for showing footage of areas under attack in Ukraine, etc. which is likely to effect morale but you do nevertheless see footage. I’ve seen a number of videos of Ukrainian cemeteries filled with flags on individual plots.

  71. Coles stabbing and hand sanitiser drinking while PM there

    There was a stabbing in Coles, while the Three Blind Mice were in town?

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  72. Establishing a population (or outbreak) isn’t always as easy as it may at first seem.
    A few make it across, but aren’t enough to sustain a breeding population & die out.

    Which poses the question, how does evolution work?

    A single mutation that causes a change in species to be born, who does it mate with? If it mates with the older species, its progeny are unlikely to be fertile.

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  73. While decisions for what the Alice needs were being made in Darwin & Canberra, to close bottle shops except for 4 hrs of an afternoon 5 days of the week, & the Three Blind Mice, plus the Chief Minister of Darwin er… NT, did any of the skilled investigative journalists at the press conference ask Anal how many of the offenders making life hell in The Alice were aged 18+?

    Y’know, old enough to buy takeaway plonk?

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  74. I reckon a similar amount of people who were Rootin’ for Putin were tearing up at Penn giving Zelensky the Oscar.
    Ie, small segments from different parts of the global population.

    Indubitably, bern.

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  75. feelthebern says:
    January 25, 2023 at 2:47 pm
    Once the war in Ukraine ends, their biggest issue will be the depopulation that they’ve experienced. If 10% of your population has left & you already had a declining birth rate, what do you do?

    Various reports, including (surprisingly) those via the MSM have commented that some 20% of the population have decamped to Europe and elsewhere. That equates to approximately 8m people. When this conflict is eventually over it remains to be seen whether that is true but the longer it goes on, I suggest that fewer and fewer will return. They will have made ‘new lives’ in their adopted country and unless they have significant (undamaged) UKR holdings, why would they return? Especially those who have relocated overseas – the effort and cost to move back will be substantial.

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  76. Someone was asking about fetal alcohol.

    Its massive- a proper genocide if you want to use an emotive term..

    NT apparently doesnt have stats on possible prevalence, WA does.
    https://alcoholpregnancy.telethonkids.org.au/siteassets/media-docs—alcohol-preg-fasd/environmental-scan_alice-springs_final.pdf

    FASD prevalence has been ascertained at 194 per 1000 among school-aged Aboriginal children in the Kimberley (Fitzpatrick et al., 2017), and 360 per 1000 among juveniles in detention in Western Australia (Bower et al., 2018). These rates are among the highest in the world.

    The prevalence of FASD in the NT (and nationally) is currently unknown, as no prevalence studies have been conducted. However, the NT Government reports that anecdotally, there is an understanding that many NT children are experiencing learning difficulties, have difficulty controlling their emotions and impulses

    Basically a kid with FASD is destined to end up in jail unless they have a supportive network around them to protect them from bad influences and exploiters.

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  77. Which poses the question, how does evolution work?
    A single mutation that causes a change in species to be born, who does it mate with? If it mates with the older species, its progeny are unlikely to be fertile.

    As I understand it “species” is a far fuzzier concept than used to be thought.

  78. Lysandersays:

    January 25, 2023 at 1:25 pm

    So things are looking up for Tennis Australia?

    I don’t think they’re called Tennis Australia anymore?

    The f*cking idiots went with re-branding the Australian Open “The Grand Slam of the Asia Pacific”.
    Opening up the possibility that it could be re-located to anywhere from Seoul to Mumbai. As if any other location could be granted “Grand Slam” status or, even if it was, it would be accepted by tennis fans.

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  79. Variations of this has occurred in most sports.

    Eventually all field sports end up looking like basketball. That is what makes golf so great – and why so many sportsmen take it up after they cease the need to make a living.

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  80. Following in the footsteps of the esteemed frollickingmole, I present you this, not sure Chad Caddington makes an appearance, Daily Telegraph:

    Former high-profile escort Amanda Goff has told how “dating d—heads” and being ghosted by men prompted her to ditch her media career and become a full-time sex worker.

    Ms Goff, formerly known as Samantha X, has opened up about her past in a candid interview with Detective Inspector (retd) Gary Jubelin for his I Catch Killers podcast series.

    In part one of their interview, the 48-year-old mother of two revealed how her disillusionment with the “tiring” dating scene eventually led to her working at a Sydney brothel.

    She also told how a brutal sexual assault by a client forced her to temporarily leave the industry and how being a sex worker made her feel like she had “power” over men.

    Unable to cope with her “suffocating” life, Ms Goff split from her long-term partner in her late 30s.

    She had long been intrigued by the sex industry and when a man she was dating told her “you’d make a very good sex worker”, she decided to take the plunge.

    “I just thought ‘f— you, that’s what I’m going to do’.

    “I remember thinking this is the right time to do it.

    “I just thought, really, I’m too old to be messed around by men.”

    Ms Goff said she wanted to “capitalise” on her power over men.

    When asked by Mr Jubelin what it was about the sex industry that “intrigued” her, the London-born Ms Goff said her fascination stemmed from her teenage years.

    The daughter of a wealthy businessman, she had a privileged childhood in the posh suburb of Wimbledon.

    “As a family, we used to go to the South of France for summers and I used to see sex workers on the streets.

    “In the eyes of a young girl, they used to seem so glamorous — that intrigued me.”

    After moving to Sydney to work as a journalist, a visit to a Kings Cross strip club for an article she was working on flicked a switch inside her.

    “I went backstage at Kings Cross and these women were just so powerful and smart and sassy and strong.

    “And they were older — they weren’t 19-year-olds, they were mums, they were studying, they were lawyers.”

    Ms Goff said the incident left her “like a moth to a light”.

    In her two books, which she said she wrote to clear up “misconceptions” about the sex industry, Ms Goff told how she initially led a double life by working at a boutique brothel in North Sydney while maintaining her real job.

    “I dipped my toe in – and from day one, I was hooked,” she told the podcast.

    She refers to her first client as “Mr Bean” and said the experience was life-changing.

    “Some nerdy, normal bloke — you know, 30-second sex and an hour-and-a half conversation. and I go home with $100 bills,” she told Mr Jubelin.

    Another client was not interested in sex and just wanted to sit on the bed with her and watch sport on the TV.

    There has, however, been dark times, including her alleged sexual assault by a married customer.

    “I was sexually assaulted and sex workers can get sexually assaulted, as you know,” she told the podcast.

    “It wasn’t so much the assault that upset me, it was the fact that I was sacked afterwards.

    “It’s the only job I’ve been sacked from and it really upset me.”

    Jubelin said the client was a “a pig of a human being”.

    “You were injured and you were outraged by it and quite rightly so.”

    Ms Goff praised the police for their efforts in locating the man.

    The attack forced her to return to her “normal life” but she just “couldn’t do it.”

    “I thought, you know what, I’m going to be more powerful and more successful and I created this woman called Samantha.

    “I rented a really beautiful waterside unit in the city, I tripled my prices and that journey began.”

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  81. rickw says:
    January 25, 2023 at 12:36 pm
    There’s a good reason why Putin is allied to the lunatics in Tehran, never forget that.

    The CCP are way more into Tehran than Putin. I didn’t see one Russian when I was there. All Chinese with the odd Frenchman or German.

    German companies have been helping the Mullahs for some time now. If I were nasty I could insinuate that it’s their Jew hatred by proxy but since I’m not nasty I won’t.

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  82. help Tennis Australia achieve a 50 per cent reduction in carbon emissions by 2030 and net-zero by 2040

    The retirement of the Williams sisters has got to help.

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  83. “Winning” the Brisbane Olympics suggests most developed nations recognise the value of holding major sporting events.

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  84. The f*cking idiots went with re-branding the Australian Open “The Grand Slam of the Asia Pacific”.

    Cos Indonesia is more accommodating?

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  85. “Some nerdy, normal bloke — you know, 30-second sex and an hour-and-a half conversation.

    It would seem normal is not how I’d always believed it to be.

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  86. Bruce O’Newk:

    Burney believes Indigenous voice would have prevented Alice Springs crisis
    Laugh out loud headline of the day so far.

    Just like Rudds apology. Not one more Aboriginal child woke up to a decent breakfast, a clean school uniform, and a cut lunch the next day. But Rudd got plenty of plaudits for his ‘bravery’ and ‘determination’.
    Bastard ineffective, gutless, and mendacious politicians, and the filth that hangs on to the gravy train.

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  87. Has to be a piss take surely?

    No.

    They’re serious. My sister showed me a gardening book by Millie Ross of the ABC at a late Christmas gathering.

    Yep, pay the rent is in there. Why TF is this in here, I thought to myself?

    Pay the rent & reserved seats to an unofficial third chamber of Parliament.

    We will unwittingly create a race based aristocracy and it will never be enough. Whites will also have to continually apologise for their existence.

    My forbears permanently abolished serfdom in 1574; thanks Queen Lizzie.

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  88. That equates to approximately 8m people.

    It’s somewhere between 4m & 8m.
    No one really knows or is willing to tell.
    Considering the wage gap between what you can earn in other European nations & Ukraine, why would you go back.

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  89. The old days with slower response wooden rackets was so much better.

    Professional golf has the same issue, predominantly with the balls. Less of an issue for suburban hackers as I can attest.

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  90. gardening book by Millie Ross of the ABC

    Gardening Australia has always been a hotbed of ALPBC hive types.

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  91. Variations of this has occurred in most sports.

    Interesting that Major League Baseball still requires wooden bats. The PGA is lead around by the nose by the equipment manufacturers and the R&A just follows.

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  92. Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
    January 25, 2023 at 2:06 pm
    No. The part-indigenous should pay their rent in proportion to their non-indigenous ancestry. That would focus some tiny minds.

    Lidia Thorpe, 15/16th non- indigenous….

    Don’t indigenous “activists” often allege that many of the relationships were non-consensual? If so, should there be an additional penalty payment by those less than fully indigenous?

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  93. There is a race on LinkedIn to be the most virtuous about working tomorrow.
    Dovetailed nicely into support for The Voice.
    Well done corporate Australia.
    Something that wasn’t on your radar a couple of months back has somehow turned into your life’s mission.

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  94. On the issue of Ukrainian population decline, I searched a few statistics and on average, the population of Ukraine has declined by approximately 470k people per year since 1994. In 1994, the population of Ukraine was ~51m but by 2021 had fallen to ~43m. Now, the population is around 36m being 7m less than the pre-conflict number.

    Unsurprisingly, as a consequence of overall population decline the live birth rate was also in serious deficit being an average of ~250k fewer births than annual deaths. This suggests that those leaving UKR consisted of a significant percentage of ‘breeding age’ females.

    It appears that UKR was in trouble with serious population decline well before the conflict began.

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  95. Mantaray – I read your posts on Jo Nova & am a fan of your perception and common sense.

    However, in spite of your greater acquaintance with contemporary Aboriginal folk ( although I do claim more acquaintance than the average person), I must protest the inevitability suggested by your assessment of Aboriginal IQ…viz Jacinta Price and her mum (just as an example) and many many others.

    The human brain is not limited by its seeming genetic pool. It is the training and education of that amazing pool of neural connections that produces greater than the sum, in my humble opinion.

    And now I will be truly controversial and bring much criticism – I think Noel Pearson, in spite of his recent extreme statement, to possess one of the greater intellects in this land. He was the son of hard working parents and was educated by the Lutherans, I recall, and is a case in point.

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  96. Burney believes Indigenous voice would have prevented Alice Springs crisis
    Laugh out loud headline of the day so far.

    Gotta had it to Linda .. been sucking on the public trough for ever with very little (ha ha!) profile and suddenly (like death!) she’s found VOICE .. nothing worse than a professional trougher not only believing but vocalizing for public relevance ..!

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  97. feelthebernsays:

    January 25, 2023 at 3:40 pm

    There is a race on LinkedIn to be the most virtuous about working tomorrow.
    Dovetailed nicely into support for The Voice.

    And, as I said yesterday, if you take the day off, expect a bit of heat from the HR spiky hairs afterwards.
    Oh, and how many virtue signalers will clock on from home?

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  98. Well ChatGPT and I are no longer on speaking terms after I tried to convince it that their ABC didn’t have a single conservative presenter on any of its shows.

    It kept saying “it is a large organisation” and “it had a variety of views.” Also that bias is “in the eye of the beholder.” I managed to get it to concede that some reviews had found it had a small l liberal bias but it said “this was not representative of the broader organisation which has a robust complaints process” **rolls eyes**

    Obviously gotta long way to go ChatGPT! But, delving into my conspiratorial mode -> This is what the future holds. You won’t be debating people in the future. You’ll be debating robots who are smarter than any human who has ever lived yet who refuse to concede. And there will be nothing you can do about it.

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  99. Burney believes Indigenous voice would have prevented Alice Springs crisis
    Laugh out loud headline of the day so far.

    Albo may have picked up the Green preferences but they are no friend to the Liars.

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  100. Boambee John:

    Possibly Winston Churchill during WW I, on the Western Front, commanding an infantry battalion?

    …and at a time when the casualty rate amongst junior leaders was greater than 80% (IIRC).

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  101. You’ll be debating robots who are smarter than any human who has ever lived yet who refuse to concede.

    ..
    Like a libertarian, only smart then?

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  102. “Winning” the Brisbane Olympics suggests most developed nations recognise the value of holding major sporting events.

    yep, not so much Brizzie winning as no one else interested .. hosting the Olympics is more of a “come in spinner” exercise these days than a “prize” … LOL!

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  103. Winning the olympics is such a massively obvious method of lining the pockets of politicians and their mates that even the most corrupt of third world s-holes think it’s a bit brazen.

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  104. I remember watching Greg Norman about the time metal “woods” were coming into the game. Before 460cc drivers, hitting one “off the screws” paid real dividends.

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  105. Back in the peace and sanity of my own home after spending waaaaay too much time with family. Not my kids who are sensible on most issues, but the extended family.

    WWIII almost broke out last night – the electrical storm overhead was nothing compared to the fireworks between The Beloved and his sister. She’s nearly 70 and shamelessly Woke, much to his amusement. There is no popular cause that she will not support. A multitude of science degrees, she is the edumacational antithesis of her brother, who is your quintessential realist and number cruncher (and also an inveterate stirrer).

    Climate Change (natch) was the subject. Well. We are all going to die of Heat. The 412ppm of atmospheric CO2 will kill us. Now, that scary figure as a percentage, quips he…not so much. And on and on it went until the appeal to authority – Columbia Climate School. Oh, the butcher is recommending the chops today? He ran the figures on EVs and also using EVs as a magical household battery…completely over her head, as well as emissions generated by various forms of renewable apparatus and delivery systems vs using and beefing up existing infrastructure.

    She looked as if he had bitten off a puppy’s head. He had mansplained her into shocked silence…so he stopped.

    Then we got down to the important stuff…Cointreau on ice and international travel. Apparently they don’t emit any earth-warming carbins so can be indulged in without remorse.

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  106. Climate Change (natch) was the subject. Well. We are all going to die of Heat. The 412ppm of atmospheric CO2 will kill us. Now, that scary figure as a percentage, quips he…not so much. And on and on it went until the appeal to authority – Columbia Climate School. Oh, the butcher is recommending the chops today? He ran the figures on EVs and also using EVs as a magical household battery…completely over her head, as well as emissions generated by various forms of renewable apparatus and delivery systems vs using and beefing up existing infrastructure.

    Bewdiful.

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  107. Lol Arky! I was more thinking of Munted. 😛

    However, ChatGPT was most infuriating on the point of bias at the ABC as it thinks it’s the smartest thing ever and it won’t concede what it has been programmed to not concede.

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  108. Winning the olympics is such a massively obvious method of lining the pockets of politicians and their mates that even the most corrupt of third world s-holes think it’s a bit brazen.

    Lock in Peter Beattie.
    My memory might be off but I believe the Covid Commander Jerome Weimar is holding the reins of the Commonwealth Games in Victoriastan

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  109. H B Bearsays:

    January 25, 2023 at 3:55 pm

    I remember watching Greg Norman about the time metal “woods” were coming into the game. Before 460cc drivers, hitting one “off the screws” paid real dividends.

    He can use a kryptonite driver for all I care, just no more “tasteful nude photo shoots”.

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  110. Johnny Rotten:

    Australian property owners have been urged to start paying a weekly ‘rent’ tax to indigenous groups based on their ancestral claim to the land.

    When you start paying blackmail, the demands never stop.
    Currently the blackmail is B30+ per year.
    When will the demands stop? Well, that’s a simple one answered by anyone who studies history – they don’t.

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  111. Apparently they don’t emit any earth-warming carbins so can be indulged in without remorse.

    Funny that. Tis the same with my brother and his wife. Their son, my nephew, is here for a gap year before he returns to the UK, he’s getting educated from his non-woke family. He’s actually remarkably open minded about us, the non-woke family.

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  112. Well I will concede that ChatCPT does know about UWA’s first-ever free market Economics Professor, Ed Shann. And it did also concede that his frosty relationship with (market interventionist) Professor Winthrop may have contributed to his suicide…

    Amazing history of WA in how Prof Winthrop conspired with drunkard Curtin during the Depression and how Shann’s theories and solutions were cut off…

    …total seque sorry…

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  113. Like so many over educated and overqualified people she is certain regardless of her own expert knowledge. She was unable to grasp the sleight of hand presented by the Snowy 2.0 scheme for instance.

    But worse, far worse in my opinion, was the reliance on future knowledge and technologic advancement without regard to the realities presented right now. It reminded me of the John Frum cult, waiting starving on the shore for some mythical ship bringing good things from afar rather than shifting for yourself. This time the saviour will be someone in a lab coat finding a way to circumvent the laws of thermodynamics.

    It really was that weird.

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  114. The old days with slower response wooden rackets was so much better.

    Professional golf has the same issue

    I have an heirloom – my great grandad’s putter. Wooden head, leather grip and bamboo or reed shaft. He was a good golfer, but sadly I only got a tiny bit of golfing DNA handed down. I have no idea how you could build a driver in those days that wouldn’t immediately snap.

    I played squash many years (just as badly). Wooden catgut strung squash racquets were fun when they broke, which was often given all the concrete walls. They’d turn into strange and exotic works of art.

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  115. On the issue of Ukrainian population decline, I searched a few statistics and on average, the population of Ukraine has declined by approximately 470k people per year since 1994. In 1994, the population of Ukraine was ~51m but by 2021 had fallen to ~43m. Now, the population is around 36m being 7m less than the pre-conflict number.

    Unsurprisingly, as a consequence of overall population decline the live birth rate was also in serious deficit being an average of ~250k fewer births than annual deaths. This suggests that those leaving UKR consisted of a significant percentage of ‘breeding age’ females.

    It appears that UKR was in trouble with serious population decline well before the conflict began.

    One of our contract IT developers (SQL Server expert) is an ex Ukrainian of Russian descent. He made his home in Australia with his Ukrainian wife (Transfer Pricing expert) about 10 years ago. His intention of going back was nil before the Ukrainian war and is now probably in negative territory. Australia is their home now.

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  116. He can use a kryptonite driver for all I care, just no more “tasteful nude photo shoots”.

    Thankfully the Instagram algorithms take of this for me. Only Russian bikini models here.

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  117. Winning the olympics is such a massively obvious method of lining the pockets of politicians and their mates that even the most corrupt of third world s-holes think it’s a bit brazen.

    The only ex-polly who I think either ALP or LNP will touch for an Olympics gig is Campbell Newman. That is man still has a giant stench about him in Queensland.

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  118. Cricket is another sport where the equipment has become ridiculous.
    Mishit shots going for six from a giant bat.

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  119. This time the saviour will be someone in a lab coat finding a way to circumvent the laws of thermodynamics.

    It really was that weird.

    To a great many nominally educated ppl, science and technology are magic. The scientists and engineers will produce whatever politicians tell them to, almost immediately.

    Mobile phones are proof of this.

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  120. Doverbeach:

    That is always risked in any containment strategy if matters begin to escalate.

    I strongly suspect that if Putin were to use a 50kt weapon against Kiev, with a further demand for Ukrainian forces to pull back to the Dnieper River, with a demilitarised zone around the city, the West would cave quickly.
    Boris isn’t going to sacrifice London for Kiev, and Biden won’t sacrifice New York for the same reason.
    Why? Both are centres of the corruption that he believes is threatening him.

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  121. Speedbox, what’s the pop of the annexed territories? Also, the majority of the pop outside of Kiev is in east and south. If more of them are occupied, it would be even worse.

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  122. H B Bearsays:

    January 25, 2023 at 4:11 pm

    He can use a kryptonite driver for all I care, just no more “tasteful nude photo shoots”.

    Thankfully the Instagram algorithms take of this for me. Only Russian bikini models here.

    Well, mummy was Finnish, so it’s only a matter of time before Greg identifies as a Russian bikini model.
    Anything for the attention.

  123. https://www.mynrma.com.au/cars-and-driving/driver-training-and-licences/resources/nsw-double-demerits

    Jesus H Cristo….grrrrrrrrr (foaming at the mouth intensifies)

    Five days of Double Demerits over Australia Day long weekend

    As they say in the third chamber of Parliament: Ya farken white fascist dawgs!

    ———–

    We advise motorists that double demerits are in place in NSW and the ACT for 5 days over the Australia Day long weekend from Wednesday, 25 January until Sunday, 29 January inclusive.

    Please be aware that on Friday 27 January 2023, school zones will be in operation. Drivers are reminded additional penalties can apply for certain offences committed in school zones.

    Double demerit periods typically fall during holiday periods or over long weekends. They run from midnight on the start date to midnight on the finish date and are enforced by police. Please drive safely and take extra care on the roads to protect yourself, your loved ones and all road users.
    What offences attract double demerits?

    During double demerit periods, double demerit points apply for speeding, illegal use of mobile phones, not wearing a seat belt and riding without a motorcycle helmet.

    Keep in mind that Mobile Phone Detection Cameras are active in NSW and the ACT and drivers caught using their phones during a double demerit period will be hit with a $352 fine ($469 in a school zone) and 10 demerits.

    Certain driving and parking offences attract an additional demerit point if committed in an operating school zone. Remember to always drive with care and attention through school zones. Be aware that failing to do so can come with heavy penalties.

    —–

    What a country.

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  124. Bear Necessities says:
    January 25, 2023 at 4:10 pm

    There are quite a few Ukrainians in Australia and they (like Russians) have been coming here for decades.

    This past New Years Eve I was at a private party* and one of the other guests was a Ukrainian woman. We chatted briefly and she told me she was new to Australia. I asked what she thought and she said she loved it. Most tellingly, she also said “this is my home now”. This woman was about 35, single with no kids. (She left the party later to travel to the city for NYE celebrations at a nightclub – I presume to also scout for a potential partner).

    Separately, at my youngest daughters gym club, there are two young Ukrainian families consisting of 2 adults and either one or two young (4-7 y/o) children. Both families recently arrived on humanitarian visas.

    I acknowledge these are insignificant numbers (total 8 persons) but this is just in my small orbit and the adults are prime age breeding/working stock with young primary school age children. That is at least 8 persons who will never return to Ukraine to live and this is being replicate all over Australia and the world.

    (no, I have no idea how the men got out of Ukraine – they may have left very early in the conflict or, otherwise ‘found a way out’ in the traditional Ukrainian manner.)

    *The host was Russian and there were lots of Russians present. No animosity.

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  125. hosting the Olympics is more of a “come in spinner” exercise these days than a “prize” … LOL!

    The Chook couldn’t wait for “the Prize”.

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  126. H B Bearsays:

    January 25, 2023 at 4:45 pm

    Sancho – well that will require a work around. Any suggestions?

    Try a refined search …
    Russian bikini model (no massive flogs).

  127. Haven’t played any Greg Norman courses. We got a few Robert Trent Jones Jr ones out West in the 80s. Joondalup is (was) good for a laugh every couple of years. Wouldn’t want to play it every week.

  128. Boris isn’t going to sacrifice London for Kiev, and Biden won’t sacrifice New York for the same reason.
    Why? Both are centres of the corruption that he believes is threatening him.

    If Vlad nukes Washington, District of Corruption more than half of America would cheer.

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  129. From the very Pro-Ukrainian APSI Institute:

    Ukraine’s war endurance is likely to run out first. If Ukraine’s leaders refuse to negotiate until after they cross that threshold, they will end up far worse off than if they attempt to negotiate while they still have chips to bargain.

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  130. I strongly suspect that if Putin were to use a 50kt weapon against Kiev, with a further demand for Ukrainian forces to pull back to the Dnieper River, with a demilitarised zone around the city, the West would cave quickly.

    Russia, and Russians, would become the most hated people on Earth. The effect upon Russia’s economy would be disastrous. The place would be regarded like North Korea only worse. Russian expatriates would be arrested and held. Russian oligarchs and businesses would be denuded of all assets. There would be no succour or favour given to anything Russian. They’d be pariahs for a century.

    And the Ukrainians would fight with rifles, then knives, then teeth. There would be no peace, only a devastation, and it would spill over into Russia proper too. The experience of the West in Afghanistan shows what asymmetrical force can do, if it’s pissed off enough.

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  131. The ASPI article reads like horseshit modified by wishful thing and whistling past the graveyard.

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  132. Santo Albo of Grayndler, during the April/May 2022 election campaign, copied the Joe Biden template from 2020. Maybe not exactly, but he and Labor used it, quite effectively. If Santo Albo wasn’t hiding from the media, he was running away from the media when they had the audacity to ask a curly question during the election campaign. Since the election last May, he’s been lucky to have a grovelling MSM who’ve treated him with kid gloves.

    However, that’s changed and there’s been a turning point over the last week, firstly with the Ben Forham train wreck interview on 2GB and then with the mayhem and all round havoc in Alice. Whilst Santo Albo tried his shtick of hiding/running, it hasn’t worked and he’s been forced to deal with the situation. Leading a pack of other blind mice, he made the pilgrimage to Alice yesterday to basically concede that the alcohol ban was a good thing and even he, the great progressive, is now conceding that there must be a total alcohol ban. In other words, after two decades, he’s been forced to concede that Howard’s intervention and the Coalition’s policies were right, not that you’d ever hear him say that.

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  133. Cassie Of Sydney:

    Another reason why I can’t take her seriously, particularly her victim shtick re. online abuse.

    I also noted the unshaven faggot to her Left giving the camera the “I’m rooly tough” look.
    Would it kill some of these people to forget their fashion affectations for just one day?

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  134. Andrew Bolt: Alice Springs chaos exposes the fallacies of the Voice

    Labor’s entire brand of race politics and their plans for the Voice has been totally discredited by what Australia finally sees in Alice Springs.
    Andrew Bolt
    Andrew Bolt
    3 min read
    January 25, 2023 – 4:03PM

    heraldsun.com.au10:00
    Peter Dutton calls on PM to assist Alice Springs ‘urgently’

    No wonder Labor politicians had to be dragged screaming on Tuesday to finally see the chaos in Alice Springs for themselves, as Aboriginal men and children run amok.

    No wonder Prime Minister Anthony Albanese stole into town without warning, without taking a journalist or cameraman, without touring anywhere publicly, and without giving a press conference until it was too late to make most TV news bulletins.

    The reason: the bashings, vandalism, drunkenness and thefts in Alice Springs expose the farce of Labor’s Voice – a kind of advisory Parliament just for Aborigines that Albanese wants to put in our constitution this year.

    In fact, Labor’s entire brand of race politics has been totally discredited by what Australia finally sees in Alice Springs.

    No, Aboriginal dysfunction is not caused by white racism. No, whites saying sorry and acknowledging elders won’t fix this. No, we shouldn’t leave Aboriginal children in dangerous homes and towns for fear of repeating the so-called “stolen generations”. No, the answer isn’t in Aboriginal “self-determination”.

    Most of all, it’s no to the Voice, now shown up as a deadly distraction.

    Imagine how much more real good Albanese would have done if every hour spent on promoting his Voice had been spent instead in stopping the rivers of booze in the Alice and getting Aboriginal children out of danger and into schools.

    Of course, it’s easier to be angry with white politicians like Albanese and NT Chief Minister Natasha Fyles for having sat back while Alice Springs went to hell after Fyles last year abruptly lifted booze bans on Aboriginal communities. Alcohol-related and domestic violence assaults went up more than 50 per cent.

    But where are the Aboriginal leaders in this? The people whose “voice” would supposedly fix things?

    Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney, who identifies as Aboriginal, now admits she was shocked on her visit to Alice on Tuesday to hear that 14 of the town’s 16 intensive care beds were filled with Aboriginal women who’d been bashed.

    I’m shocked she’s shocked. Why does Burney seem so blind to what’s happening not just in Alice Springs, but many Aboriginal settlements?

    Why didn’t she act decisively last year, after the Central Australian Aboriginal Congress on June 9 warned her the violence was already terrible, and “more access to alcohol will undoubtedly add fuel to this fire”?

    Aha! Voice apologists will say this proves we need Labor’s Aboriginal Voice, because it won’t be ignored like this hypocritical Albanese Government ignored that Aboriginal congress.

    But here’s the figure that shocks me. When the booze bans were lifted last year on 144 Aboriginal settlements, the leaders of just 15 opted for the bans to stay.

    Even now, Professor Marcia Langton, a co-designer of the Voice, says the plan is for “local people who live with these problems to co-design solutions”, yet many local leaders didn’t get off their backsides to take the first step to stop the boozy destruction of too many Aboriginal communities.

    But do white ideologues do much better?

    Albanese and Fyles, shamed into holding a summit at Alice Springs on Tuesday, announced a supposed fix that appalled many locals.

    No extra Northern Territory police would be hired. The federal police would not come help, either. There would be no children taken off the midnight streets and into care. The booze ban would not return – or not for now.

    Instead, there’d be more of the same. More social welfare programs, more CCTV, more teaching of parents to be better, more bureaucrats, and, oh, wait – some restrictions to times for buying alcohol.

    But nothing that would also fight similar anarchy and Aboriginal dysfunction in other towns. Nothing for Wadeye, where dozens of homes were torched and a man killed; nothing for Carnarvon, where new homes have been trashed; nothing for Aurukun, where hundreds of residents fled rioters; nothing for Western Australia and Queensland, where people have been allegedly murdered.

    No, Labor and the activists will try to ignore all that to peddle their fantasy that all be fixed by the Voice, or a treaty, or sovereignty or anything that paints whites and their laws as the real problem.

    This blindness was best illustrated again by hate-preaching Greens Senator Lidia Thorpe, who, with Alice in chaos, still issued a war-cry for Aborigines on Australia Day: “The war is not over so we have to continue to fight the war.”

    War? But around Australia, voters are waking up. They behold the works of the Left in Alice Springs, and despair.

    14 of the 16 beds in the towns intensive care unit were filled with Aboriginal women who had been bashed.

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  135. H B Bearsays:

    January 25, 2023 at 4:50 pm

    Haven’t played any Greg Norman courses. We got a few Robert Trent Jones Jr ones out West in the 80s. Joondalup is (was) good for a laugh every couple of years. Wouldn’t want to play it every week.

    I played Cape Kidnappers in New Zulland a few years ago.
    Man oh, man.
    On a lot of holes it was (a) fairway or (b) Pacific Ocean.
    Went through a box of balls, but what speccy views.

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  136. Dotsays:

    January 25, 2023 at 4:52 pm

    Russian bikini model (no massive flogs).

    Not sure what the purpose of your search is then sir.

    I am helping Bear filter out unwanted nekked Greg Norman pics.
    Well, I assume they are unwanted.

  137. “Three blind mice. Three blind mice.
    See how they run. See how they run.
    They all ran after the farmer’s wife,
    Who cut off their tails with a carving knife,
    Did you ever see such a sight in your life,
    As three blind mice?

    A very appropriate nursery rhyme to describe the three blind mice who flew to Alice Springs yesterday, Albanese, Burney and Dodson.

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  138. Zipster:
    Pence, a crook?
    The man who accepted State voting results that were corrupt and enabling the Democrats to form a government that has been a catastrophe for the US?
    That Pence?

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  139. dover0beach says:
    January 25, 2023 at 4:36 pm

    what’s the pop of the annexed territories? Also, the majority of the pop outside of Kiev is in east and south. If more of them are occupied, it would be even worse.

    Indeed. Some of the data is old and not entirely reliable. The numbers get even more difficult to pin down the closer to you go to the Dnieper river because this includes portions of neighbouring oblasts. But a fair, if conservative, assessment is probably about 10-11 million (inc Crimea).

    The other issue for Ukraine is the natural wealth of the area. Good land, mineral rich……which means jobs and broader prosperity for the country. So, not just the loss of people, but the loss of national ‘assets’. Remember that all of Ukraine could easily fit inside NSW (Ukraine 603k sq/km vs NSW 801k sq/km).

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  140. Unfortunately I don’t have as access to a First Nations library as there are no caves nearby. Perhaps somebody can check their First Nations history references.

    Are there any known instances of a larger tribe entering land and settling there with a few occasional dust ups with the smaller mob who were there first? Or was it all fields of sunflowers and skies filled with rainbows and flying unicorns?

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  141. Russian bikini model (no massive flogs).
    Not sure what the purpose of your search is then sir.

    Hmmm, sounds like another Venn diagram is required. They’re pretty useful.

  142. 14 of the 16 beds in the towns intensive care unit were filled with Aboriginal women who had been bashed.

    Meanwhile, Lidia Thorpe tackles the issues that really, really matter…….

    The outspoken Senator Thorpe informed a special meeting of the Greens partyroom on Wednesday that she will not support the voice “unless she is satisfied it guarantees First Nations Sovereignty is not ceded

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  143. (no, I have no idea how the men got out of Ukraine – they may have left very early in the conflict or, otherwise ‘found a way out’ in the traditional Ukrainian manner.)

    Speedster: One of my cousins is in the game of smoothing the arrival for Ukrainian refugees. He deals with several couples & young families.
    All of them are white collar types who were already out of Ukraine when the balloon went up, working in SE Asia, North Africa, & the like.

    There’s not a bulldozer with enough horsepower to pull any of them back to Ukraine, ever.

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  144. dover0beach says:
    January 25, 2023 at 5:33 pm
    Indeed. Some of the data is old and not entirely reliable.
    I don’t think they’ve completed a census in more than 2 decades.

    Accurate published data is scarce. The other aspect I didn’t mention is whether to include the areas that take in Mykolav and further west to Odesa. Add them and we’re talking another 5-6 million people +/-.

    Worst case would probably see the Ukrainian population down to, say, 20 million in a land area of 325-375k sq/km with vast tracts of arable land gone along with minerals, ports etc. along with a shattered economy. Try to stabilise your population and encourage reproduction in those circumstances. Good luck.

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  145. “unless she is satisfied it guarantees First Nations Sovereignty is not ceded

    1. There never was a First Nation with sovereignty over the Great Southern Land in 1788.
    2. The only Sovereign Nation on the Great Southern Land in 2023 is called Australia.
    3. Get over it Thorpe or get out of the Australian Senate.

    QED

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  146. 14 of the 16 beds in the towns intensive care unit were filled with Aboriginal women who had been bashed.

    In Feraldton a conservative estimate would be 80% of police calls are to deal with Aboriginals.
    CCTV of offenders appears to show the 15% or so of the population punching well above their weight in the crime/nuisance stakes.

    And for any asshole lefty who will wail about “overpolicing” the hospital admissions for injuries and illness are similar.
    And the biggest victims of the criminal element are fellow Aboriginals.

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  147. Meanwhile, Lidia Thorpe tackles the issues that really, really matter…….

    Thorpe doesn’t give a toss about bashed up Aboriginal women. Why would she? She’ll never be like them and she knows it.

    She will use them when she’s good and ready and not a moment sooner. Until then they can rot away on settlements. The money earmarked for them will be whisked away as usual to other destinations like bank accounts.

    Nothing changes.

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  148. 1. There never was a First Nation with sovereignty over the Great Southern Land in 1788.

    For shame, don’t you believe Lidia?

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  149. ZK2A:

    14 of the 16 beds in the towns intensive care unit were filled with Aboriginal women who had been bashed.

    Very difficult to have a Voice when you’re intubated, paralysed, and have brain damage from the very last flogging many of these women will ever get.

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  150. Apparently international and domestic travel is “driving inflation”. This is what was just blared at me from the television.

    Any ideas on how this could possibly be? It seems a stretch to me.

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  151. No wonder Albo wants the Voice out the way. Can’t see things improving when Parliament gets back.

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  152. Speedbox:

    Worst case would probably see the Ukrainian population down to, say, 20 million in a land area of 325-375k sq/km with vast tracts of arable land gone along with minerals, ports etc. along with a shattered economy. Try to stabilise your population and encourage reproduction in those circumstances. Good luck.

    I’m sure the UN will solve the depopulation problem.
    By importing tens of thousands of young males from Turkey, Iran, The Sudan, etc.

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  153. Oh…I see. It’s energy costs being hidden by price increases in food, building materials, and travel because…energy costs.

    We see you, you charlatans. The shell and pea trick won’t work this time around.

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  154. Apparently international and domestic travel is “driving inflation”. This is what was just blared at me from the television.

    I think the technical term is bullshit

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  155. Albanese: Confident voice will ‘make a difference’
    Laura Placella
    LAURA PLACELLA

    Anthony Albanese says he is confident that the Indigenous voice to parliament will “make a difference” because it is not the end, but “the means to the end”.

    The Prime Minister, in an interview with Sky News, responded to criticism he has faced in recent days that now is not the time to debate the voice considering the crisis unfolding in communities such as Alice Springs.

    “The voice is the vehicle, by listening to people to get better practical outcomes, to close the gap, which is there in health, in education, in housing, in life expectancy, in justice outcomes,” Mr Albanese said.

    “The truth is that in 2023, we still have extraordinarily large gaps in all of those key indicators.”

    The Prime Minister explained that this year’s referendum will be about “two things”.

    “It’s about recognition, that is giving people respect in our nation’s birth certificate and it’s about consultation, (that is) giving people a right to have a say,” he said.

    “As the Uluru Statement (from the Heart) said itself: ‘In 1967, we were counted’. In 2017, they’re asking to be heard.

    “For 120 years, decisions have been made … on behalf of Indigenous Australians. What we need to do is to make decisions with Indigenous Australians and listen to them.”

    But Mr Albanese refused to be drawn on whether the referendum will define his prime ministership.

    “This isn’t about me. This is about the way that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people see themselves,” he said.

    “The question is this: if not now, when? When do we recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people in our nation’s birth certificate?

    “That’s the question that’s before, or will be before, the Australian people at the end of this year.

    “And the question is being asked in the form in which Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people themselves have determined they want, which is by having a constitutionally enshrined voice to our parliament.”

    The Prime Minister also refused to be drawn on whether he would “have more luck” if former Treasurer Josh Frydenberg was Opposition Leader and not Peter Dutton, saying the voice should be “above politics”.

    Further detail on the model of the voice – which the Coalition has been calling for – will be handed down in the “coming months”, Mr Albanese added.

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  156. Ahahaha! And the weather reportette is standing in front of a collapsed brick wall in Sydney.

    Only one problem. It is apparent why the wall collapsed…it wasn’t the weally weally scary weather…the wall was single skin and had no footings.

    😀

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  157. Apparently pence was asked by the DOJ to search his home for secret docs to show Trump’s possession of secret docs was unique. But Pence had docs so that fell flat. The secret doc comparisons are remarkable:

    Trump = POTUS: can declassify and have secret docs. His secret docs were momentos – signed napkins from rocket man and the like. Cooperated with DOJ. Raided before mid terms. No culpability

    Pence: VP, no right to have secret docs but his docs in locked container but still guilty of felony under strict liability provisions.

    Biden: senator and VP; no right to docs. Docs known but not revealed before mid terms. All docs unlocked and many in penn state uni in Chinese study centre financed by chunk money. Unsecured at home; accessible by druggie son with proven connections to Ukraine and chunks. Docs dealing with Ukraine, Russia and the chunks consistent with biden family business connections.

    In a just world the whole wretched biden family would be fed to pigs.

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  158. “For 120 years, decisions have been made … on behalf of Indigenous Australians. What we need to do is to make decisions with Indigenous Australians and listen to them.”

    That’s a fu.king lie; the commonwealth had no power to make laws for the 3rd nations until after the 1967 referendum. This voice is going to be a lie fest of such proportion that it will make biden look like a truth-teller.

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  159. “The voice is the vehicle, by listening to people to get better practical outcomes, to close the gap, which is there in health, in education, in housing, in life expectancy, in justice outcomes,” Mr Albanese said.

    “The truth is that in 2023, we still have extraordinarily large gaps in all of those key indicators.”

    1: stable families
    2 Educated and well looked after kids
    3 one parent working
    4 Gradual buildup of social and economic capital

    There you go, gap closed.
    Applies for every race/social group in the world.

    Using the dispossession template the Jewish people must have the worst outcomes in all indicators globally.
    If not, why not?

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  160. However, that’s changed and there’s been a turning point over the last week

    Despite journalists being leftist maniacs, if they smell blood they can’t help themselves. Feeding frenzies are indiscriminate.

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  161. “The question is this: if not now, when? When do we recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people in our nation’s birth certificate?

    Ah…that old playbook… if you don’t get the right answer first, ask again… and again as they did 3x with the Irish and the EU… or have tried in WA with Daylight Saving (and many other issues!!)

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  162. Should all CCP owned US land be repossessed?
    YES or NO?

    Excellent troll, Mr President. If we can’t buy farmland/industries in China, then neither can they.
    And I’d add the stuff they’ve bought in Australia. Two can play the Predatory Trade Game, Mr X1.

    Don’t worry as we have seen this coming which is why we have been dumping your crap US Debt as fast as we can. Only 500 billion US dollar left to go and we will never buy anymore of your crap debt. How is that Debt Ceiling going BTW? You takeover our US assets then we not sell you Rare Earth Materials and other stuff that you need.

    And we will take Taiwan anyway while you send all your Military assets to the UKR. BTW, we bought that 80 Billion US Dollar worth of military assets that you left behind in Afghanistan for a song and sold it on to Russia. They now know how some of your stuff works and so do we.

    Bye for now – your friend Mr Xi.

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  163. I

    n a just world the whole wretched biden family would be fed to pigs.

    A bit unfair on the pigs don’t you think.

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  164. “For 120 years, decisions have been made … on behalf of Indigenous Australians. What we need to do is to make decisions with Indigenous Australians and listen to them.”

    No, this has been a 60,000 year old sting operation in the making.
    They want “wepawations” Elbow style.

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  165. Well look modern adult animation phenomena Rick and Morty is dead.

    Justin Roiland got accused of domestic abuse by Abi Lyn Maley (from an incident in May 2020 apparently) and got cut loose by Warner/Adult Swim.

    Assumed guilty pending any evidence.

    What a world.

    It doesn’t matter what the evidence says unless he decides to go full Johnny Depp if she’s proven to be a liar.

    A totally rational article by a woman who clearly has a lot of male attention:

    https://medium.com/honestly-yours/rick-and-morty-never-should-have-happened-a8696a96aee3

    …and that’s right she was into rough stuff and her Hollywood production career turned into an “adult entertainment” career.

    https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-rick-and-morty-fandom-and-haters.35075/page-44

    Moral of the story.

    DO. NOT. STICK. IT. IN. A. CRAZY. WICKET.

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  166. This voice is going to be a lie fest of such proportion that it will make biden look like a truth-teller.

    Already started around here – the local “elders” are repeating all the bullshit about Aborigines not being citizens, or counted in the census until 1967.

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  167. Some people walk in the rain, others just get wet.

    If a deluge of dollars counts, Brittany did both to perfection.

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  168. Robert Sewell says:
    January 25, 2023 at 5:59 pm
    I’m sure the UN will solve the depopulation problem. By importing tens of thousands of young males from Turkey, Iran, The Sudan, etc.

    Actually, you’re kind of on the right track. The long-term problem for any future Ukrainian government is ‘how’ do they protect what’s left. A shattered economy, severe population decline, loss of industry, arable land etc.

    How do you encourage what’s left of your population to stay – in particular the best and brightest and of course the young ‘breeding age’ men and women. Only with income – but how is that achieved with massive debt from the World Bank (+ USA/EU funds) and without annoying the neighbours and becoming a tax haven for investors.

    Import people? Sure, but you’ll need millions of them and over time this will eventually dilute the ‘native’ Ukrainian DNA – and some of your existing people will find it very unsettling to discover their new neighbours are Sudanese…… which equals social unrest. (Ukraine is a very ‘white’ country – very few darker skinned.)

    It’s all very well for someone to suggest that Ukraine could become the world’s next ‘melting pot’ of races but this would be deeply troubling to Ukrainians. It is not difficult to see why Zelensky sees the conflict with Russia as existential for Ukraine – and in some respects he’s correct. I wonder, with the benefit of hindsight, whether he quietly regrets not taking a different, but still independent, trajectory after 2014. Maybe the deal laid out by Russia prior to Russian troops crossing the border. Or allowing Boris to strong arm him to reject the peace deal offered in April.

    In any case the dream of EU/USA supplied tanks and artillery rolling across Ukrainian fields driving Russia back to its borders and then reclaiming the Crimea in the greatest tank assault since WW2 supported by vast numbers of troops triumphantly marching into Sevastopol…… are just that. A dream.

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  169. It was the stir of the town when an 80-year-old man married a 20-year-old girl. After a year she went into the hospital to give birth. The nurse came out to congratulate the fellow. “This is amazing. How do you do it at your age?” He answered “You’ve got to keep that old motor running”. The following year she gave birth again. The same nurse said “You really are amazing. How do you do it?” He again said “You’ve got to keep the old motor running”. The same thing happened the next year. The nurse said “You must be quite a man”. He responded “You’ve got to keep that old motor running”. The nurse then said “Well, you had better change the oil, this one’s black”.

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  170. Apparently pence was asked by the DOJ to search his home for secret docs to show Trump’s possession of secret docs was unique.

    The DoJ is desperately looking for squirrels.

    Animal cruelty.

    Exactly.

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  171. “For 120 years, decisions have been made … on behalf of Indigenous Australians.”

    We’re all in the same boat. It’s called representative democracy.

    If you want to change that polity, why shouldn’t all “stakeholders” get a Voice to parliament to shape and review legislation, starting with tax payers?

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  172. Roger…that’s perfect. And a way to frame the inherent racism of the proposal.

    We are all in the same boat. These buggers (whether I voted for them or not) make decisions on my behalf but not necessarily to my benefit.

    Been going on all my life. 😀

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  173. We are all in the same boat. These buggers (whether I voted for them or not) make decisions on my behalf but not necessarily to my benefit.

    Precisely, calli.

    And I’m in favour of any mechanism which will make them more responsive to voters.

    Just not on a racial basis, thank you.

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  174. Oops, meant to link to the Instapundit version, whose editorialization those caps are. 😀

  175. Is there any hope that the complicit media will ever be made to pay for their ardent embrace of the climate scam?

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  176. This voice is going to be a lie fest of such proportion that it will make biden look like a truth-teller.

    Already started around here – the local “elders” are repeating all the bullshit about Aborigines not being citizens, or counted in the census until 1967.

    I mentioned a while back a very senior WA public servant telling the dinner party that Aborigines were Flora and Fauna until 1967. I called bullshit and said where that lie came from.
    About 40 minutes later she came and said she had immediately ducked out and googled it and I (and the Cats who made me so well informed) were RIGHT!
    Apparently they were told this by a local indigenous consultant PAID BY THE WA GOVT TO INFORM THESE SENIOR PUBES about aboriginal issues.

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  177. The major question is only how many a Viagra-upped 80 year old can sire.

    More couples having fun; women, children hardest hit!

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  178. Apparently they were told this by a local indigenous consultant PAID BY THE WA GOVT TO INFORM THESE SENIOR PUBES about aboriginal issues.

    And they didn’t have the intelligence to check what they were told. In short, they were and presumably still are gullible nitwits. And these are the ppl running the state.

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  179. If you want to change that polity, why shouldn’t all “stakeholders” get a Voice to parliament to shape and review legislation, starting with tax payers?

    Jeez, talk about thin edge of the wedge stuff.

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  180. On the first night of their honeymoon, the new bride tells her husband “I have a confession to make. I’m not a virgin. I’ve been with one other guy”.

    “Oh yeah? Who was the guy?” “Tiger Woods, the golfer”.

    “Well, he’s rich, famous and handsome. I can understand that”.

    The couple then makes passionate love. When they finish, the husband gets up and walks to the telephone.

    “What are you doing?” asks the wife. “I’m hungry. I’m calling room service”. “Tiger wouldn’t do that”. “Oh yeah? What would Tiger do?” “He’d come back to bed and do it a second time”.

    The husband drops the phone and makes love to his wife a second time. When they finish, he goes back to the phone.

    “What are you doing now?” she asks. “I’m still hungry, so I’m going to ring room service for some food”. “Tiger wouldn’t do that”. “Oh yeah? What would Tiger do?” “He’d come back to bed and do it one more time”.

    The husband puts the phone down and heads back to bed.

    Exhausted after the third lovemaking session, he shuffles back to the phone and starts to dial.

    The wife asks “Are you calling room service?” “No! I’m calling Tiger Woods to find out what’s par for this hole!”…………………………

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  181. Anyone like to explain why “this is clearly bullslip” or why Putin was forced to reject this, etc?

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-war-began-putin-rejected-ukraine-peace-deal-recommended-by-his-aide-2022-09-14/

    Exclusive: As war began, Putin rejected a Ukraine peace deal recommended by an aide

    PARIS, Sept 14 (Reuters) – Vladimir Putin’s chief envoy on Ukraine told the Russian leader as the war began that he had struck a provisional deal with Kyiv that would satisfy Russia’s demand that Ukraine stay out of NATO, but Putin rejected it and pressed ahead with his military campaign, according to three people close to the Russian leadership.

    The Ukrainian-born envoy, Dmitry Kozak, told Putin that he believed the deal he had hammered out removed the need for Russia to pursue a large-scale occupation of Ukraine, according to these sources. Kozak’s recommendation to Putin to adopt the deal is being reported by Reuters for the first time.

    Putin had repeatedly asserted prior to the war that NATO and its military infrastructure were creeping closer to Russia’s borders by accepting new members from eastern Europe, and that the alliance was now preparing to bring Ukraine into its orbit too. Putin publicly said that represented an existential threat to Russia, forcing him to react.

    But, despite earlier backing the negotiations, Putin made it clear when presented with Kozak’s deal that the concessions negotiated by his aide did not go far enough and that he had expanded his objectives to include annexing swathes of Ukrainian territory, the sources said. The upshot: the deal was scrapped.

    Asked about Reuters findings, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said: “That has absolutely no relation to reality. No such thing ever happened. It is absolutely incorrect information.”

    Kozak did not respond to requests for comment sent via the Kremlin.

    Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to the Ukrainian president, said Russia had used the negotiations as a smokescreen to prepare for its invasion, but he did not respond to questions about the substance of the talks nor confirm that a preliminary deal was reached. “Today, we clearly understand that the Russian side has never been interested in a peaceful settlement,” Podolyak said.

    Two of the three sources said a push to get the deal finalized occurred immediately after Russia’s Feb. 24 invasion. Within days, Kozak believed he had Ukraine’s agreement to the main terms Russia had been seeking and recommended to Putin that he sign an agreement, the sources said.

    “After Feb. 24, Kozak was given carte blanche: they gave him the green light; he got the deal. He brought it back and they told him to clear off. Everything was cancelled. Putin simply changed the plan as he went along,” said one of the sources close to the Russian leadership.

    The third source – who was told about the events by people who were briefed on the discussions between Kozak and Putin – differed on the timing, saying Kozak had proposed the deal to Putin, and had it rejected, just before the invasion. The sources all requested anonymity to share sensitive internal information.

    Moscow’s offensive in Ukraine is the largest military campaign in Europe since World War II. It prompted sweeping economic sanctions against Russia and military support for Ukraine from Washington and its Western allies.

    Even if Putin had acquiesced to Kozak’s plan, it remains uncertain if the war would have ended. Reuters was unable to verify independently that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy or senior officials in his government were committed to the deal.

    Kozak, who is 63, has been a loyal lieutenant to Putin since working with him in the 1990s in the St. Petersburg mayor’s office.

    Kozak was well-placed to negotiate a peace deal because since 2020 Putin had tasked him with conducting talks with Ukrainian counterparts about the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine, which has been controlled by Russian-backed separatists following an uprising in 2014. After leading the Russian delegation in talks with Ukrainian officials in Berlin on Feb. 10 – brokered by France and Germany – Kozak told a late-night news conference that the latest round of those negotiations had ended without a breakthrough.

    Kozak also was one of those present when, three days before the invasion, Putin gathered his military and security chiefs and key aides in the Kremlin’s Yekaterinsky hall for a meeting of Russia’s Security Council.

    State television cameras recorded part of the meeting, where Putin laid out plans to give formal recognition to separatist entities in eastern Ukraine.

    Once the cameras were ushered out of the vast room with its neo-classical columns and domed ceiling, Kozak spoke out against Russia taking any steps to escalate the situation with Ukraine, said two of the three people close to the Russian leadership, as well as a third person who learned about what happened from people who took part in the meeting.

    Another individual interviewed by Reuters, who helped in the post-invasion talks, said discussions fell apart in early March when Ukrainian officials understood Putin was committed to pressing ahead with the large-scale invasion.

    Six months on from the start of the war, Kozak remains in his post as Kremlin deputy chief of staff. But he is no longer handling the Ukraine dossier, according to six of the sources who spoke to Reuters.

    “From what I can see, Kozak is nowhere to be seen,” said one of the six, a source close to the separatist leadership in eastern Ukraine.

  182. DO. NOT. STICK. IT. IN. A. CRAZY. WICKET.

    Well yes, but sometimes you got to risk it for the biscuit.

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  183. Do not attempt shoplifting. If it is a dodgy biscuit, pay for the biscuit up front. Or do not consume the biscuit, otherwise you will pay later.

    In non-metaphoric commenting, has Mater been about lately? I seem to have missed him.

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  184. In non-metaphoric commenting, has Mater been about lately? I seem to have missed him.

    Now that you mention it, so have I.

    Silly season break perhaps?

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  185. A snapshot of how this country should and should not be:

    Yesterday, a family member on the far north coast opined that one of the differences he sees, after leaving Sydney, is no foreign faces. He was very pleased with that, knowing where he lived.

    I look out my window and my Burmese neighbour is flying an Australian flag for Australia Day.

    I don’t see foreign faces either.

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  186. The Lancet is essentially arguing that your life has no more value than a pig

    ffs, what’d I tell youse?

    … you’re the farm

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  187. My first attempt at Gozleme tonight. Very popular market food in the eastern states, apparently. I’d never heard of it, nor had a ‘taste’ to guide me, other than the recipe.

    “Yum, Granny!” was the popular verdict. Minimal leftovers disappeared with, “I’m taking this!”

    I love cooking for these wonderful women of the future.

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  188. I look out my window and my Burmese neighbour is flying an Australian flag for Australia Day.

    She knows she has a lot to be grateful for just being here (and she’s likely made the most of it).

    The same goes for my wife, a migrant and “person of colour” whose enthusiasm for Australia Day extends to putting those little flags on her car.

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  189. From The Speccie’s (Oz edition) evening mailout:

    ‘Albanese has been guilted into visiting Alice Springs following a wave of violence sparked, according to the police, by Labor’s bright idea to ignore the voices of Indigenous women and allow the purchase of alcohol. The effect was almost immediate. Aside from the nightmare Albanese has caused, his quick little private jet hop to Alice Springs has proved something rather interesting – it turns out you don’t need a racist clause added to the Constitution to listen to the voices of Indigenous Australians. All you need is a bit of jet fuel and some media pressure.’

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  190. The Lancet is essentially arguing that your life has no more value than a pig.

    They’ve been going even more fruity than usual lately.

    Woke Lancet Announces ‘Medical Urgency’ of Climate Change (23 Jan)

    ROME — The once-venerable UK Lancet medical journal is charging ahead in its climate change crusade, proclaiming “the ethical and medical urgency of the climate crisis” in its latest issue.

    After calling climate change the “biggest global health threat of the 21st century” earlier this month, the Lancet has now praised “health-care professionals participating in Extinction Rebellion action [who] blocked the entrance to the UK’s Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy to protest about impotent responses to climate change.”

    That’s not entirely surprising since the Lancet editor is an actual Extinction Rebellion supporter.

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  191. The Liars, always unable to resist the grand gesture.

    Vicki – I think – mentioned Wave Hill way upthread.

    Cue the “iconic” pic of Whitlam pouring dust into Vincent Lingiari’s hands.

    Iconic, yes, but not for the reasons imagined.

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  192. Damaging anthropogenic climate change (if it is a problem at all) could be ended if Australia simply made regenerative grazing and anything nuclear industry related absolutely tax free for the 30 or so years.

    There is no need for any taxes, regulation or explicit subsidies to any party.

    Climate change activists are the useful idiots for industrial grifters.

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  193. Anyone like to explain why “this is clearly bullslip” or why Putin was forced to reject this, etc?

    Pretty clear from the article and elsewhere that neither side trusted the other by that stage.

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  194. Did anyone save the Obama/Clinton 16 year plan meme? I can’t turn it up but distinctly remember that it included nuclear war. What is absolutely clear is that NATO/the West have no intention of seeking a cease fire but are determined to escalate.

    2023.01.23 About Those F-16’s

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