Open Thread – Tues 7 Feb 2023


Daedalus and Icarus, Charles Le Brun, 1645


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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 7, 2023 11:14 pm

Watching good episode of Club Grubbery – Athletes with Voices.

Interviewing : Pat Cash, Trevor Hendy, UK soccer player Matt le Tissier, US Basketball player John Stockton and former Green Bay Packers player Ken Ruettgers. Surfer Kelly Slater may pop in later. All explaining how their suspicions arose about Covid etc.

Matt a smart guy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 7, 2023 11:14 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

February 7, 2023 at 10:47 pm

I’ve witnessed their shenanigans on the BOM radar many times

You don’t actually realise how radar works, do you?

It is the mechanism used by the BoM to let clouds know when and where to drop rain.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 7, 2023 11:15 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
February 7, 2023 at 11:04 pm

Cool calm and collected.

Go watch the Bearden clip above. Have fun. I’ll drop the US .Gov speech on the matter- admitting to it at a later date. They learnt from the Soviets . I just know you don’t have a clue about that one.

Maybe they are lying? It is .Gov ( :

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 7, 2023 11:16 pm

Steve tricklersays:

February 7, 2023 at 11:07 pm

132andBushsays:
February 7, 2023 at 10:53 pm

Watch the Bearden clip above

Is it a slick production with good musical backing?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 7, 2023 11:20 pm

Secret Super Weapons!

Weather! Cancer! EMF! Taylor Swift and Cute Owls! HAAAAARP beams!

It’s all connected! Don’t you SEE?

This blog is off the pace….

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 7, 2023 11:24 pm

‘everything I discovered ON MY OWN since 2011’

Ah. There you are, sir. You seem to have misplaced your pudding.

Here. Let me help you back to your room.

Dot
Dot
February 7, 2023 11:34 pm

If you had watched the forecasting clip I posted above, you wouldn’t have come out with such tosh. That means so didn’t or are to stupid follow. I did say a 7th grader could follow it….it does go for over an hour so your attention span would probably be challenged.

Old mate cannot forecast the next 10 earthquakes that cause over 100 casualties each to the nearest week, within +/- 0.5 on the Richter scale, to within +/- 1 km depth, to within a fifty mile radius of the epicentre and he will not get all the tectonic plates right.

I bet you $10,000 of Australian ram head sterling silver shillings (1938 -1946).

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 7, 2023 11:37 pm

I defy any of you pansies to find fault with her.
Well, she looks nice and hydrated.
But the tattoos are a shame.
Tattoos = issues.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 7, 2023 11:38 pm

It’s been good fun. A pile on from useless ignorant clowns.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 7, 2023 11:42 pm

that cause over 100 casualties each
That’s a bit unfair… you’re asking the ouija board for casualties?
One earthquake might kill thousands in Haiti, and none in the Dominican Republic.
Likewise, a five on the richter might level Nepal, yet barely register in Japan.

Dot
Dot
February 7, 2023 11:43 pm

Make a counter-offer, Trickler.

Let’s make this interesting, or do you lack breeding you simple beast?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 8, 2023 12:07 am

Indoctrination’ claim as schools take voice to classrooms
Leading advocates for the No campaign have accused teachers of ‘indoctrinating’ students to support the Yes case.

EXCLUSIVE
By Ellie Dudley
Reporter
@EllieDudley_
9:11PM February 7, 2023
8 Comments

Victoria will back the Indigenous voice being promoted in schools as part of the state’s “journey to Treaty”, as schools across the nation instruct students to memorise the Uluru Statement from the Heart, welcome voice advocates to speak in assemblies and work the referendum into classroom lessons.

South Australia’s Education Department is also “supportive of the Uluru Statement, the Indigenous voice … and the referendum” being taught and discussed by teachers in schools, while the Queensland government has encouraged open discussion with students ahead of this year’s vote.

NSW teachers, by contrast, will be restricted to teaching within current programs. Most schools intend to educate children on the referendum and the Education Department of the biggest Labor state has declared it “important” to discuss in classrooms.

“Conversations about the proposed Indigenous voice to parliament at school are important for students understanding Victoria’s journey to Treaty and the important work of the Yoorrook Justice Commission,” a Victorian Education Department spokesperson said.

State Education Minister Natalie Hutchins said it was “normal and important” for students to talk about current affairs in class.

“Victoria supports the Uluru Statement and we’ve committed to supporting the voice to parliament, along with all other states and territories in Australia,” she said. “The voice referendum will be a defining moment in our nation’s history and classroom conversations around major current affairs are a normal and important part of students’ understanding and education.”

A South Australian Education Department spokesperson said teaching students about “important public issues, along with how society and government address these issues”, was a specific focus of humanities and social sciences within the curriculum.

“The voice to parliament is an opportunity for students to learn about how society engages with and resolves issues of national significance,” the spokesperson said.

However, while they were supportive of the voice being taught in schools, teachers must “ensure students are provided with unbiased and objective information to form their own critical analysis”.

Queensland will support open discussion of the voice in schools, and help “teachers to ensure students have the skills and knowledge to become active and informed citizens”.

“The Uluru Statement and proposed constitutional recognition of an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander voice in the Australian parliament would be topical for students to explore as part of curriculum-based learning activities,” a Queensland Education Department spokesperson said. “The Queensland government, through a motion of parliament, has voiced support for the Uluru Statement and voice to parliament.”

The NSW Education Department has taken a more conservative approach, with teachers permitted “the flexibility to teach about current events within their teaching and learning programs”. “Critical thinking is embedded across the curriculum and students develop the skills to analyse arguments relating to current events,” a NSW Education Standards Authority spokesperson said.

Federal Education Minister Jason Clare said it was up to states and territories to implement their curriculum. “Separate to this, the government will provide public information … about referendum processes and constitutional change,” a spokesperson said.

Leading advocates for the No campaign have accused teachers of “indoctrinating” students to support the Yes case.

Students at Shearwater Mullumbimby Steiner School on the NSW north coast are able to recite the Uluru Statement by heart, having learnt it during year 5 history studies, principal James Goodlet said. “Yes, we are supportive of the voice and the Uluru Statement from the Heart,” he said. “Support for listening to First Nations people, truth-telling and truth-seeking regarding First Nat­ions history, First Nations representation and constitutional recognition are important to us.”

Videos from ABC journalist Stan Grant have been used as educational tools for St Andrews Cathedral School students in Sydney, and teachers discussed the voice with their students when the ­Albanese government was elected.

“In all of our subjects, the issue was addressed through multiple perspectives, though the students in general came to our discussion in favour of the voice,” said SACS head of humanities Michael Neate.

The school also welcomed Thomas Mayor, voice advocate and author of Finding the Heart of the Nation, to speak with Indigenous students in years K-6. A spokeswoman told The Australian Indigenous voice to parliament design group co-chair Marcia Langton would be invited to speak this year.

St Mary’s Cathedral College also invited Mr Mayor to speak.

“Mayor’s insights were used to frame NAIDOC week activities,” principal Kerrie McDiarmid said. “Staff engaged students with an understanding of why the voice is important and the history that led us to this point. Significant to 2023 is the appointment of the college’s first Indigenous Student Leader, who will continue the conversation and awareness as a significant voice at the college.”

A leader of the No campaign, Warren Mundine, told The Australian he “didn’t believe” schools would facilitate fair discussion on the topic.

“It’s total propaganda. When I went to school, if you spoke about political issues and propaganda, you lost your job. These kids are only getting one side of the story and, frankly, it’s time for heads to roll.

“People have told me … their kids are coming home totally indoctrinated by it. If you’re going to teach students about the voice, you have to have representation from both sides. It’s that, or don’t talk about it.”

Catholic Schools NSW said teachers should aim to support students to develop their worldviews, not prescribe personal opinions.

“One of our goals in Catholic education is to support students to grow in

wisdom and the development of a worldview informed by their faith,” CEO Dallas McInerney said.

How about bussing the children to any regional town on “pension night” and asking what Earthly use any “Voice” will be?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 8, 2023 12:34 am

Have You Seen This Boy?
If you see Kim Jong Un, please tell him his generals and wait staff are very worried about him and the whole country would like to see him back in his lair tonight because he needs to rest before the big parade tomorrow. A spokesperson for the USA State Department labelled as unfounded rumours that Kim has been busy building an intercontinental nuclear balloon. Rumours that he has had another tantrum and shot some more generals are still being investigated.

rickw
rickw
February 8, 2023 12:40 am

Apparently they especially liked Ethiopian ladies.

Thinking of Mekdes……

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 8, 2023 12:50 am

A pile on from useless ignorant clowns.

Am I too late? Just feeding the nano wrigglers.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 8, 2023 1:35 am

From News com au . They will never stop. This is going to cause serious problems as covers everybody over 18 who has not had a jab for 6 months. It also contradicts decision on 7 July when said n9t recommended for under 30s due to heart issues.

Australians will be able to get a fifth Covid vaccine within a fortnight.

The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) has recommended that everyone over the age of 18 who has not been infected with Covid or received a vaccine within the last six months should get a fifth shot.

The fifth jab was previously only available for people who are severely immunocompromised.

ATAGI made it clear that those over the age of 65 remain at severe risk of death or becoming seriously unwell if they catch Covid.

The announcement means people aged between 18 and 29 will now be eligible for a fourth dose of the vaccine.

Children will not be offered another vaccine unless they have a health condition that puts them at risk.

At the start of the year, 72 per cent of eligible Australians had three doses, while 44 per cent had a fourth.

“From February 20, all adults who haven’t had a booster or an infection in the past six months can go out and get a booster shot, to give them additional protection against severe illness from Covid,” Health Minister Mark Butler said.

“If you’re 65 or over, or you’re an adult at risk of severe Covid illness, and it’s been six months since your last booster or infection, it’s now time for a booster.”

rosie
rosie
February 8, 2023 2:40 am

Sailed past Taormina on way here.
I messina’d it.
Next time.

rosie
rosie
February 8, 2023 2:58 am

Visited the Diocesan museum and the Roman baths which are under the piazza in front of the cathedral. Most of the decorations of the baths are missing but it’s in better shape than most others I’ve seen.
Then got my squid ink at a pretty cute restaurant run by three old fellas with an Indian chef.
You can’t get in without them pressing a button to release the front door.
The other diners were two young couples who were speaking what I thought might have been Russian but turned out to be Ukrainian unless they were Russian speaking Ukrainians as one of the owners asked them in the intersection language, English, where they were from, the spokesgirl said they were Ukrainian but living in Czech Republic where they were returning this afternoon.

Asked about war they were non committal as you might expect when both young men would be eligible for draught. Pretty adamant they were returning to Czech Republic not Ukraine.
Then walked up to visit the monastery of St Benedict which is now part of the university was the second biggest Benedictine monastery in the world. I have to wait til tomorrow for guided tour so visited the monastery Church instead. Bigger than the cathedral apparently to accommodate visitors for the feast day of St Nails.
Hard to read some of the translations but my impression was they moved from the slopes of Mount Etna after being surrounded by a lava flow in 1669. The front facade of the church was never finished and looks it.
The piazza in front of the church is a semi circle with baroque houses set around it.
It ought to look very nice but too many of the houses are run down and unoccupied, a common problem in central Catania.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 8, 2023 3:12 am

Interesting Rosie.

Re the Benedictine monastery, do they make the liquor? I used to have a passion for it years ago.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 8, 2023 3:35 am

Get your Bingo card for Biden’s speech here!

rosie
rosie
February 8, 2023 3:59 am

No TE, like most monasteries and convents in Italy the Benedictines were booted by the government in 1866.
I don’t know if the Benedictines have any current presence in Sicily.

rosie
rosie
February 8, 2023 4:00 am

I’m sure St Nails is an incorrect translation.
I look at the Italian tomorrow and see if I can figure it out.

Tom
Tom
February 8, 2023 4:00 am
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February 8, 2023 4:14 am
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Tom
February 8, 2023 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
February 8, 2023 4:16 am
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February 8, 2023 4:21 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 8, 2023 4:26 am

Thank you Tom
Now a news update on toxic two-legged amphibians La Rospaccia is now in the cross-hairs:

Recklessly indifferent to truth’: Bruce Lehrmann sues Lisa Wilkinson for damages
Bruce Lehrmann has launched defamation proceedings against Network Ten and News Life Ltd – an arm of News Corp Australia – in Federal Court. Picture: Getty Images
Bruce Lehrmann has launched defamation proceedings against Network Ten and News Life Ltd – an arm of News Corp Australia – in Federal Court. Picture: Getty Images
By JANET ALBRECHTSEN
COLUMNIST
and REMY VARGA
NSW REPORTER
10:34PM FEBRUARY 7, 2023
Former Liberal staffer Bruce Lehrmann is suing Channel 10 and its star Lisa Wilkinson for defamation, accusing them of seeking to exploit allegations of sexual ­assault against him for ­personal and professional gain.

Mr Lehrmann, who has consistently denied raping former colleague Brittany Higgins, has launched defamation proceedings against Network Ten and News Life Ltd – an arm of News Corp Australia – in Federal Court.

Wilkinson, former co-host of The Project, and Samantha Maiden, political editor for news.com.au, are understood to be second respondents in proceedings.

Mr Lehrmann further claims Wilkinson and Network Ten were “recklessly indifferent to the truth or falsity” when they alleged he raped Ms Higgins on the couch in the ministerial office of then defence industry minister Linda Reynolds in the early hours of March 23, 2019.

The statement of claims references Ms Higgins’ evidence from the aborted trial against Mr Lehrmann before the ACT Supreme Court when the former staffer said Maiden and Wilkinson had fought for the exclusive publication of her alleged story.

The statements of claim said it could be inferred that Wilkinson “was seeking to exploit the false allegations of sexual assault as made by Ms Higgins for her own personal and professional gain”.

Mr Lehrmann is being represented by defamation specialists Mark O’Brien Legal. It is understood defamation expert Matthew Richardson SC and barrister Steven Whybrow SC, who represented Mr Lehrmann during the trial, have been retained to run matters together.

The Project and news.com.au published Ms Higgins’ allegations in broadcasts and online stories on February 15 in 2021. The original reports did not name Mr Lehrmann. The former staffer is claiming he was easily identified by a description as a senior staffer in Senator Reynold’s office.

“By reason of publication of the matters complained of, the applicant has been greatly injured in his personal and professional reputation and has been and will be brought into public disrepute, odium, ridicule and contempt.”

Ms Higgins alleged Mr Lehrmann raped her on a couch in Senator Reynolds’s office in the early hours of March 23, 2019, after a night out.

The high-profile trial was aborted in October 2022 due to juror misconduct.

Mr Lehrmann pleaded not guilty at his trial and has at all times denied the allegations.

The DPP has now withdrawn the charges, with ACT director of public prosecutions Shane Drumgold citing concern for Ms Higgins’s mental health.

The Australian approached Network Ten and Wilkinson for comment.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 8, 2023 5:53 am

Good morning earlybirds. I am up early, still slightly jetlagged from arriving in on Monday arvo.
Attapuss has been so delighted to see us he’s been following us around like a little dog, and talking his head off, especially at Hairy. Our catsitter did a good job and also left our place spotless. We said to help yourself to the drinks trolley but her usage was moderate. All good news, there was some Bombay Sapphire left for me and some single malt there still for Hairy. We added some new Duty Free to the trolley.

Unpacking is now all done. A major job. A Kleenex up the sleeve of my very useful black Jag cardigan has wrecked my ‘dark’ winter wash. Some items seem too sad and dulled to try to rescue.

Sydney sticky February heat is a challenge after Korean and other winter climes. Aircon is on.

Hope Rosie stays safe in earthquake territory, I note she has checked out safe places such as bathrooms in her accommodations. On the 28th floor in a Korean high rise I had a mild panic about fire possibilities, memories of 9/11 videos, but at least hotels there have to provide a room torch and smoke masks. I didn’t enquire about cladding issues. Too freaky. We’d left there before earthquakes became front of mind, thank goodness.

Most of the Korean population live in high rise apartments; there are very few single houses.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 8, 2023 6:11 am

A rosy-pink dawn light is coming over the cliff from the ocean, a celestial dimmer being turned up by an unseen hand, an ageless certainty. The Aussie birds are hunched, sitting in developing outlines on rooftops and fences and in trees. The day begins in earnest now and I am going back to bed. I might get to sleep again now as their calls are a homecoming comfort. Even the Kookas.

Especially the Kookas.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 8, 2023 6:15 am

Sorry if this has been posted earlier: Paul Kelly has written a very good article on the pea-hearted ‘leaders’ of this country:

Pell funeral marks fracture of church and state relationsPAUL KELLY
12:00AM FEBRUARY 8, 2023

The Pontifical Mass for Cardinal George Pell – a religious event and a public event – was a funeral ritual, a celebration of Catholic resilience but testimony to the now deeply fractured relations between secular power and the Catholic Church.

The church’s celebration of Pell’s life was a magnificent event yet evidence of a diminished nation, its culture fragmented and its current secular leaders hiding in fear, unable to pay respects to the life of George Pell, who attained the most senior position in the Catholic hierarchy of any Australian.

In his homily, the Archbishop of Sydney, Anthony Fisher, said of Pell’s character, “some experienced him as demanding, pugilistic or polarising and others as faithful, hospitable and witty”. But the secular reaction to Pell’s death was driven by deeper forces – politicians terrified of offering respect despite Pell being the target of the greatest miscarriage of justice in Australia since World War II and adverse findings by a royal commission that he knew of sexual abuse crimes, findings relying on inference not evidence (there was none).

The hostility of victims and parents of child sexual abuse towards Pell is understandable given the crimes of the church and the desecration of the sacred. Pell should have displayed far more sensitivity towards the victims, but it is time to recognise his innocence of the charges laid against him.

Pell was the target of a preposterous campaign of vilification, charges and conviction. He was subject to a “Get Pell” investigation by Victoria Police, a prosecution that should never have been brought, and a failure by the highest court in Victoria, and received justice only when his case was removed from Victoria and went to the High Court, where a 7-0 judgment found in Pell’s favour.

Even then, the denialists were everywhere. Critics falsely claimed the High Court decision was based on a technicality. Victorian Premier Dan Andrews, having attacked Tony Abbott for visiting Pell in jail, defied the court, saying victims had to be believed – confirming he didn’t believe in justice and a fair trial in Victoria.

When Pell was sentenced, Chief Judge Peter Kidd felt compelled to address the “witch-hunt” or “lynch mob” mentality mobilised against Pell. He said Pell could not be made a scapegoat for failings of the church – yet this was, directly or indirectly, the popular and media assault launched against him.

In his book Gerard Henderson named more than 120 journalists and commentators who engaged over many years in the pile-on against Pell. For years the ABC led the charge in a campaign that was relentless, biased and prejudiced. Cause and effect can never be proved but it is hard to imagine how Pell’s conviction could have occurred without the campaign by the public broadcaster in breach of its statutory obligations.

At the start of the Pell trial, lawyer Father Frank Brennan (who had many theological differences with Pell) said: “This case will be a test of all individuals and all institutions involved.” After his forensic examination of the entire saga, Brennan concluded: “Having followed the Pell proceedings closely, I am convinced that the case did nothing to help bona fide complainants, victims and their supporters.”

Here is the sticking point. What was achieved? What did all the media assaults, the rage, the agony, the incarceration, the institutional failures of police, prosecutors and judges achieve? Pursuing Pell on shoddy evidence in politically and emotionally influenced proceedings has resulted in years of misery for most participants. The lesson is there can be no justice for sexual abuse victims by creating an injustice against Pell.

After his exoneration, Pell said: “My trial was not a referendum on the Catholic Church.”

This has been a double failure – a failure by the church in its handling of child sexual abuse and a failure by the institutions of the secular state in seeking to bring down Pell. The church has confronted its sins. Not so, the secular state. There is next to no public recognition whatsoever of the failings and abuse of power committed by the powerful within our society – police, law, media and politics. None. There is no moral or intellectual accounting, just deceptive leaders.

The Pell legacy will live with the church and our secular institutions for decades to come. In the eulogy to his brother, David Pell thanked the Barwon prison staff for treating George with “dignity and professionalism”, saying his family in Ballarat was not immune from the “evil curse” perpetrated on many children by priests whom he branded as “secretive, deviant and manipulative criminals”. It seems the prison staff extended more dignity to Pell than the secular leaders. The non-attendees at Pell’s funeral included Liberal Party Premier of NSW Dominic Perrottet, himself a Catholic, and Labor Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, who talks frequently about his Catholic upbringing, calling himself a “non-practising Catholic”. A spokesman for Perrottet said he had other business commitments.

Enough. These were decisions of silent disrespect and, in Perrottet’s case with an election looming, cowardice. The leaders did not just insult Pell. Their insult was to the Catholic Church and was understood by the congregation. Opposition Leader Peter Dutton attended, along with John Howard and Abbott, who delivered the finest speech of his life, saying Pell’s great triumph, surely, was to have kept his faith.

Pell was given a farewell for the ages. Apart from World Youth Day in 2008, this was the most magnificent event in the Australian Catholic experience for several decades. It was a statement of strength by the church. St Mary’s Cathedral, designed in Gothic style to match the great medieval cathedrals of Europe, was filled with several thousand mourners, hundreds of priests in attendance and Archbishop Fisher presiding in a service that extended beyond two hours and 30 minutes.

It was an assertion of Western civilisation and the church’s centrality in this history. The mass was sung, the music included Johann Sebastian Bach, Felix Mendelssohn and Edward Elgar, the hymns selected with an eye to Pell’s preferences, with Fisher’s homily invoking Pell’s legacy of four new Catholic tertiary institutions.

It was an assertion of Australian nationalism. Fisher said Pell remained “very much an Australian to the end”. David Pell told us that when George was announced in Rome in 2003 as the next candidate for cardinal the cry rang out: “Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! Oi, Oi, Oi.” George lived a life that “played the ball, not the man” and spent 404 days in solitary confinement for an offence he never committed. Linking the modern fate of the church with its past, Fisher said: “Jesus told his disciples not to be surprised if the world hated them, as it had hated him first.” The church knows it is a target in a world that has lost the civic virtue necessary to hold societies together. But in this new phase of its existence the church has a long experience of oppression on which it can be sustained.

What is the moral of the Pell event? Best look to CS Lewis in The Abolition of Man, when Lewis said rejection of absolute truth would see the unravelling of society. Referring to the “tragic comedy” of our situation heavy with demands for more self-sacrifice and creativity, Lewis wrote: “We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We live in an age of phony virtue and fabricated honour.” Lewis was prophetic – leadership in our institutions, public and private, is administered by men without chests.

PAUL KELLY EDITOR-AT-LARGE
Paul Kelly is Editor-at-Large on The Australian.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 8, 2023 6:19 am

Welcome home Lizzie and Hairy. The weather has been very Sydney Summer of late this morning is a little dull but ’tis early yet. Thanks for the travelogue have been shivering all the way around the Northern Hemisphere with you, but not in the slightest bit envious. 😉

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 8, 2023 6:24 am

My take way from the absence of political ‘leaders’ from George Cardinal Pell’s funeral, so many of whom were raised as Catholics is this:

The non-attendance to George Cardinal Pell’s funeral by our popinjay-hearted ‘leaders’ demonstrates their total and utter disrespect towards the High Court of Australia’s 7-0 judgment which restored to the Cardinal his state of innocence – meaning he was not guilty of the charges. Little wonder respect for the legal institutions of this country are in decline.

For the ignoranti out there, who say the High Court’s judgment was a technicality: no-one is ever asked ‘do you plead innocent or not innocent to the charge’? they’re asked: ‘how do you plead’? ‘guilty or not guilty’?

rosie
rosie
February 8, 2023 6:48 am

Excellent article by Paul Kelly.

Tom
Tom
February 8, 2023 6:50 am

What is the moral of the Pell event? Best look to CS Lewis in The Abolition of Man, when Lewis said rejection of absolute truth would see the unravelling of society. Referring to the “tragic comedy” of our situation heavy with demands for more self-sacrifice and creativity, Lewis wrote: “We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We live in an age of phony virtue and fabricated honour.” Lewis was prophetic – leadership in our institutions, public and private, is administered by men without chests.

A formidable analysis by Paul Kelly, whose ALP cheerleading I normally scroll by. For the first time since I subscribed to the Paywallian 20 years ago, the paper has surprised me.

rickw
rickw
February 8, 2023 6:51 am

Test?

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 8, 2023 6:56 am

The Australian is leading the shilling for The Voice.
The best reason they can arrive at to oppose it is some garbage about Democracy and everyone getting one vote.
And Peter Dutton getting off the fence and announcing for No.

You can bet the house, if he does that, the screaming will be:
How can you oppose The Voice when you don’t know the details?!?!!!!

Gabor
Gabor
February 8, 2023 6:58 am

Tintarella di Luna says:
February 8, 2023 at 6:24 am

My take way from the absence of political ‘leaders’ from George Cardinal Pell’s funeral, so many of whom were raised as Catholics is this:

Well said Tintarella.
At least a funeral service should have been neutral ground, but NOO! gutless wonders.

Leaders???
No wonder we are where we are, in every sense, but there is nought we can do about it.

Change the system?
Can’t do it. Too many non thinking rusted ons for both sides.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 8, 2023 7:02 am

The non-attendance to George Cardinal Pell’s funeral by our popinjay-hearted ‘leaders’ demonstrates their total and utter disrespect towards the High Court of Australia’s 7-0 judgment which restored to the Cardinal his state of innocence –

There’s no Legal State Of Innocence.
Good pick up over the 7-0 judgement, though.
Clearly Parrothead and quite a few others weren’t buying it.

Gabor
Gabor
February 8, 2023 7:04 am

As to holidaying in Europe in winter?
Blimey, it’s cold enough here in winter.
I love hot weather. Bring it on.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 8, 2023 7:05 am

Pell faced a Church Court over similar allegations dating back to a Youth Camp in 1961.
Judge Southwell found both Pell and the Complainant credible witnesses and made no finding.
Pell probably shoulda retired then.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 8, 2023 7:08 am

It’s similar to when Dutton deported some Kiwis who had no Criminal Record but had beaten numerous Serious Charges and never had any visible means of support..
At some point you’ve just gotta admit the facts.

Cassie of Sydney
February 8, 2023 7:09 am

“We live in an age of phony virtue and fabricated honour.” Lewis was prophetic – leadership in our institutions, public and private, is administered by men without chests.

We are living in a West that is now administered by men without chests.

Thank you Tinta for uploading Kelly’s piece.

Thank you to the Oz for publishing his piece. It confirms why I still subscribe to the Oz.

Gabor
Gabor
February 8, 2023 7:10 am

Ed Case says:
February 8, 2023 at 7:05 am

Pell faced a Church Court over similar allegations dating back to a Youth Camp in 1961.
Judge Southwell found both Pell and the Complainant credible witnesses and made no finding.
Pell probably shoulda retired then.

I hope someone with more time on their hands will pick you up on that claim.
I have to go back to work.

rosie
rosie
February 8, 2023 7:11 am

Just been told it’s 12c in Melbourne.
Southern Europe, occasional rain and wind chill off Etna notwithstanding is very pleasant to travel in in winter.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 8, 2023 7:11 am

The Republicans just lost the 2024 elections.

Club for Growth Snubs Trump Ahead of Annual Donor Retreat (Newsmax, 7 Feb)

Former President Donald Trump has been excluded from the invite list for The Club for Growth’s annual donor retreat.

The prominent conservative fundraising group will hold its annual gathering next month, when potential 2024 Republican presidential candidates, minus Trump, will mingle with donors.

Stupid. Trump is so far ahead of anyone else in the primary polls that he will be the candidate, barring dirty tricks. Which means the RINOs will be wetting themselves and undermining him. Or they will play a dirty trick whereupon the 40 million or so core Trump voters will stay home in disgust. The Dems won’t even need to steal it at this rate.

calli
calli
February 8, 2023 7:11 am

Pell should have displayed far more sensitivity towards the victims, but it is time to recognise his innocence of the charges laid against him.

Interesting assertion.

How?

rosie
rosie
February 8, 2023 7:15 am

This goes back to Cardinal Pell not being emotional or something when meeting with victims.

Cassie of Sydney
February 8, 2023 7:18 am

Last Thursday, on the steps outside St Marys, Tinta and I did see some men with chests. These men were a multicultural group, of Asian, Middle Eastern, European, Polynesian, African and Indigenous backgrounds, on their knees praying the rosary. When the degenerate scum were given license by the NSW police to walk directly past the doors of St Marys and mourners such myself, a deliberate act of intimidation, those men with chests walked up to confront the scum, and only then did the vile NSW police move on the scum.

calli
calli
February 8, 2023 7:26 am

Lewis was writing within the wishy washy Anglophone framework, one that he observed daily. He would have been heartened about what you observed outside St Mary’s.

As one bastion collapses, another takes its place. The Almighty always provides a remnant. It’s a pity that the west looks like being left out but that is its cheap grace choice.

2dogs
2dogs
February 8, 2023 7:27 am

The Stone Toss comic came out really fast in response to this.

Pogria
Pogria
February 8, 2023 7:28 am

Remember a while back there was discussion on whether Brown snakes will live in Black snake territory?
I was right. The largest snake wins, not the breed. The link has good pictures. It reminds me of the children’s song, “I’m being swallowed by a Boa Constrictor.”

calli
calli
February 8, 2023 7:31 am

As for Cardinal Pell not showing enough emotion to victims, isn’t a practical remedy far more valuable than loud mouth wailing?

It’s the only part of Kelly’s piece I take issue with. He’s done it as a sop for the offenderati. In these degenerate times, it’s more about how something looks rather than what it is. Or what is said rather than what one does.

132andBush
132andBush
February 8, 2023 7:42 am

Steve trickler says:
February 7, 2023 at 11:07 pm

132andBushsays:
February 7, 2023 at 10:53 pm

Watch the Bearden clip above. I doubt you will though….call it a hunch.

Already seen it.

*Backing slowly away*

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 8, 2023 7:43 am

We live in an age of phony virtue and fabricated honour.

Outstanding.

Cassie of Sydney
February 8, 2023 7:46 am

“As one bastion collapses, another takes its place. “

Yep. I’ve been thinking a lot about this lately. After watching the Sam Smith degeneracy, I am now convinced we are witnessing a collapse. And I know this statement will annoy some here, but the fundamental truth is that what happened on Thursday outside the cathedral is, as far as I’m concerned, the inevitable end result of “liberalism” in the West and this liberalism has led us to a steep cliff which the West has now happily driven off.

I’ll take my hat off to Peter Dutton for attending the funeral, but he has always struck me as a man with a chest. As for Perrottet, my seething contempt for him and his cronies in the Liberal party, state and federal, knows no bounds.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 8, 2023 7:46 am

I take my hat off to the crooks in the Solomon Islands.
Yesterday their PM sacked the biggest China critic from his role.
Get money from Australia/US. Say & do the right things at the time.
Get money from China. Say & do the right things at the time.
Rinse, repeat.

Also hats off to the ABC for giving it the coverage they did.

Cassie of Sydney
February 8, 2023 7:48 am

“As for Cardinal Pell not showing enough emotion to victims, isn’t a practical remedy far more valuable than loud mouth wailing?”

And therein lies the rub, we live in a time where loud mouth wailing is lauded.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 8, 2023 7:53 am

we live in a time where loud mouth wailing is lauded.

Things I heard yesterday at a meeting that got really off track.
“how can Alice Springs get better if we don’t pass The Voice”.

A big problem is the people who frame big decisions have zero skin in the game.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 8, 2023 7:55 am

Because 16 year olds are so well educated in science!

SMH: Lower the Voting Age to 16, to Drive Climate Action (6 Feb)

On Wednesday, Ross Gittins wrote an apology to his grandkids for not fighting the war of our times. He questioned whether the politicians pushing the government’s flawed climate policy were quietly banking on not being around long enough to have to explain their actions to their grandkids.

It is clear that if we are to make real progress towards a sustainable future the time has come for us to pass the microphone to the younger generation.

Ah, the wonderful Mr Gittins, who appears to know even less science than a school kid.

bespoke
bespoke
February 8, 2023 7:56 am

callisays:
February 8, 2023 at 7:31 am
As for Cardinal Pell not showing enough emotion to victims, isn’t a practical remedy far more valuable than loud mouth wailing?

My wife has learned it is nessasary to control her emotions when dealing with families otherwise she would be no use. Practical advise gives long term benefits and outsiders have no business sharing the grief.

Dot
Dot
February 8, 2023 7:56 am

“how can Alice Springs get better if we don’t pass The Voice”.

You enforce the law without fear or favour and it slowly becomes a normal, small regional city.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 8, 2023 8:02 am

Ed Casesays:
February 8, 2023 at 6:56 am
The Australian is leading the shilling for The Voice.
The best reason they can arrive at to oppose it is some garbage about Democracy and everyone getting one vote.
And Peter Dutton getting off the fence and announcing for No.

You can bet the house, if he does that, the screaming will be:
How can you oppose The Voice when you don’t know the details?!?!!!!

Richard Cranium

You have been babbling on about the Voice referendum for yonks, but the one thing that you have never done is express a clear personal position.

Are you for or against? Please provide reasons for your preference.

Dot
Dot
February 8, 2023 8:02 am

On Wednesday, Ross Gittins wrote an apology to his grandkids for not fighting the war of our times. He questioned whether the politicians pushing the government’s flawed climate policy were quietly banking on not being around long enough to have to explain their actions to their grandkids.

He’s a fat unkempt oaf who loves free food at conferences and seminars. Truly his carbon footprint would exceed some poor labourer from Blacktown or Penrith. He’s a loathsome, offensive brute.

He’s not even an economist, he’s an auditor who got a journalism job.

“Responsibilitism” makes more sense when you see ideologues wanting to use democracy to give us authoritarianism.

1. Veterans vote for the executive.
2. Taxpayers vote for the house of reps.
3. The States or sortition appoints the Senate.

If 16 year olds get to vote, they might also be drafted, male and female too in this modern world. It is a raw deal they don’t know they buying into.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 8, 2023 8:04 am

Richard Cranium

There’s no Legal State Of Innocence.

Apart from gross stupidity, what are you not innocent of?

Dot
Dot
February 8, 2023 8:04 am

Trump needs to win just to rub it in and punish the steal. What the Democrats did in 2020 was seditious.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 8, 2023 8:04 am

‘a loathsome, offensive brute’

And yet, I cannot look away.

Got it. Superb reference.

132andBush
132andBush
February 8, 2023 8:06 am

“As for Cardinal Pell not showing enough emotion to victims, isn’t a practical remedy far more valuable than loud mouth wailing?”

Everything has become about personal feelings (the subjective). Not about the facts (the objective).

The post modernist doctrine.

Dot
Dot
February 8, 2023 8:08 am

I might call my micro-state the Legal State of Innocence, as a (((Sovereign Citizen))).

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 8, 2023 8:08 am

Articles up at The Oz, Courier Mail, ABC etc but so far all almost identical and not allowing comments yet.

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From February 20, people 18 and over who have not had a COVID-19 vaccine or positive case in the last six months are eligible for another shot
Uptake of fourth vaccine doses has lagged behind previous doses, with just 44 per cent of the eligible population getting one
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So does this lead to more mandates especially for the 28% who stopped at 2 doses. Even many of those who had 4 may be nearing 6 months since last one.

Pogria
Pogria
February 8, 2023 8:08 am

My wife has learned it is nessasary to control her emotions when dealing with families otherwise she would be no use. Practical advise gives long term benefits and outsiders have no business sharing the grief.

This. Bespoke, nailed it.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 8, 2023 8:09 am

Oops did not copy well.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 8, 2023 8:12 am

Dot

If 16 year olds get to vote, they might also be drafted, male and female too in this modern world. It is a raw deal they don’t know they buying into.

All rights should be linked to the right to vote.

Drinking, driving, firearms ownership, military service, end of compulsory schooling.

Feel free to add more, then consider what the reactions of the Gittins of this world will be.

Indolent
Indolent
February 8, 2023 8:15 am
Tom
Tom
February 8, 2023 8:16 am

A big problem is the people who frame big decisions have zero skin in the game.

If the politicians in Darwin and Canberra making decisions about Alice Springs could see what the Alice cops are dealing with daily, they’d know the solution is stopping black kids and blackfella drunks running amok.

For that, you need the rule of law, but there is no rule of law and black kids and drunks are running amok.

The problem with Alice is cowardice in Darwin and Canberra.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 8, 2023 8:22 am

Boambee – exactomundo.

I have no problem with 16 year olds being given the vote, as long as they are also:

1. Subject to full tax rates;
2. Tried in adult courts and sent to adult prisons, where they can sit and walk next to, and sleep near 40 year old dismemberment enthusiasts;
3. Removed from any youth or student concessions of any type;
4. Compelled to pay full rate for firearms and other licence applications; and
5. Made to pay their own power bills.

There are more, but that will do for the moment. You can’t just nibble the good bits off a pizza. You take part of it, you own it.

Indolent
Indolent
February 8, 2023 8:22 am

This may sound out there but if you listen to Schwab and his acolytes for five minutes this is how they actually talk. Whether it’s true or not, or whether it works or not, they’ll give it a good old fashioned try.

Researchers discover a new part of the brain and the World Economic Forum wants to use it to read our minds

Indolent
Indolent
February 8, 2023 8:25 am
calli
calli
February 8, 2023 8:28 am

Ross Gittins wrote an apology to his grandkids for not fighting the war of our times

I hereby apologise to all Cats and Kittehs for not giving him a good shove when I had the opportunity to do so.

Death by Ruck and Maul (and deliciously via his own kid’s sprigs) would be too good for him.

Dot
Dot
February 8, 2023 8:29 am

Australian adults will be able to get a fifth dose of the COVID-19 vaccine within a fortnight, after the federal government accepted advice from its expert vaccine advisory body.

Wowee. What a time to be alive.

duncanm
duncanm
February 8, 2023 8:30 am

I’m glad Lehrmann is going the full hog – but he’s missed out one potential target. Morrison.

Zipster
February 8, 2023 8:34 am

Tucker: This practice is illegal
Project 21 co-chairman Horace Cooper weighs in on the Biden administration’s history of race-based hiring on ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight.’ #foxnews #fox #tucker

Dot
Dot
February 8, 2023 8:35 am

Once again. This “earthquake forecasting” nonsense has got to stop.

If you had watched the forecasting clip I posted above, you wouldn’t have come out with such tosh. That means so didn’t or are to stupid follow. I did say a 7th grader could follow it….it does go for over an hour so your attention span would probably be challenged.

Here is the wager:

Old mate cannot forecast the next 10 earthquakes that cause over 100 casualties each to the nearest week, within +/- 0.5 on the Richter scale, to within +/- 1 km depth, to within a fifty mile radius of the epicentre and he will not get all the tectonic plates right.

I bet you $10,000 of Australian ram head sterling silver shillings (1938 -1946).

———————————————————————-

The suggestion has been made to Steve Trickler to make a counter offer, but it appears that he doesn’t want to make things interesting, the poor beast is lacking in good breeding and wouldn’t know entertainment or numeracy if it hit him over the head and kicked him up the bum. He’s a damp squib, ain’t he? I’ve ran across street urchins with more refinement and intelligence than this!

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 8, 2023 8:42 am

Hasn’t been below 20 degrees in Sydney for a week & has been as humid AF.
I’m reminded of Tony Grieg checking the players comfort on Boonie on one of the 12th Man albums.

Rabz
February 8, 2023 8:46 am

Gittins wrote an apology to his grandkids for not fighting the war of our times

Yet another preposterous puffed up mediocrity handed an entirely undeserved megaphone by our beloved braindead lamestream meeja.

As for the lauding of Paul “is wrong (again)” Kelly above, give it a rest, people.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 8, 2023 8:46 am

Presumably Dali’s melted clocks were a harbinger of global warming.

Rise in air pollution correlates to creation of impressionist painting, study says (6 Feb)

Maybe it also explains why modern art is so awful.

Rabz
February 8, 2023 8:47 am

Hasn’t been below 20 degrees in Sydney for a week & has been as humid AF

February in Sydney is invariably my least favourite time of the year.

shatterzzz
February 8, 2023 8:47 am

A big problem is the people who frame big decisions have zero skin in the game.

This would also apply to the current ROBODEBT RC and all the subsequent costs .. a squillion dollar enquiry into a flawed/illegal clawback of around $10million from folk who couldn’t afford to pay it back even if they had, actually, owed it! .. no one will pay for the hardship & deaths (same as KRudd’s roof bats fiasco) maybe a coupla “naughty corner” moments but a week later out of the news cycle and back to norm for the rest ………..!
Yet, over the course of a normal year the “troughers” collective in Parliament would rort, legally & illegally, 2 or 3 times this amount, $30 billion poured into the 251 lake every year so ROBODEBT wouldn’t have even caused a ripple there .. yet no enquiry/RC into that “holy grail” ..!
“burka” & “turgid” alone rorted the tax payers of, probably, a quarter of the entire ROBODEBT total impressing their staff “girlfriends” whilst , supposedly, “working” but no consequences for either .. both still sitting in Parliament and drawing their obscene salaries ……
Seems Royal Commisions are more a revenge tactic on political enemies rather than a checks & balances issue ….
One thing is guaranteed from any RC tho! … only the mug taxpayer foots the final bill ….!

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 8, 2023 8:48 am

KD

Thanks, I had forgotten about age related concessions for the yoof.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 8, 2023 8:52 am

Saw a clip on Twitter of a Davos interview with CEO of Moderna. Presumably one just held last month.

In it he says Moderna made $100,000 in 2019 but after Davos (not sure if referring to 2019 or 2020 but seems more likely 2019) says to his production guys going to make a billion dollars next year as going to be a pandemic.

Read in conjunction with one of the links put up earlier by Indolent.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 8, 2023 8:52 am

Wilkinson, former co-host of The Project, and Samantha Maiden, political editor for news.com.au, are understood to be second respondents in proceedings.

About bloody time.

Interesting that it is the Liberal staffer who shows more backbone than all those Liberal MPs and Cabinet Members who curled into a ball at the first whiff of an accusation, apologised reflexively and unthinkingly, and resigned from office in disgrace to spend more time polluting their communities with their cowardice.

In this whole affair there has been only one person who has treated it as the legal case it was meant to be. Only one person (who may or may not have wanted a trial) conducted themselves as if it was a proper trial.

Cassie’s Amphibian (pronounced ‘am fibbing’), and a fairly hefty whack of frightbats (and they generally are hefty – moderation not being a word they associate with food) have only indulged in a Bacchanalia drowning themselves in a heady concoction of lurid innuendo, promiscuous exchanges of each others’ smells within their camp such as ants do with pheromones to recognise their sisters, general misandry, undergraduate feminist pap, and self-pleasuring superciliousness.

All this without any restraint at all because they were convinced that the hangover would be felt by someone else – not in the form of a headache, but in Bruce in the form of a ruined life. And they would continue their drunken revelry scolding, denigrating and upbraiding all men forever from their narcotic stupor because, again, there would be no hangover for them.

Perhaps Lisa, perhaps Samantha, through bleary eyes are now beginning to discern the shape of barristers coming for them and feeling a little uncomfortable – partly because they might be in trouble but largely because it is as if the world is being tilted upside down. It will take the others in the sisterhood a bit long, and then they will have to come up with a campaign insisting any examination of them, their motives, and their actions means you think all women should be raped, but this time (very unsettling for them) some of their own egos and jobs (BIRM – their jobs are to flatter themselves) will be at stake.

After so long with a creeping conveyor belt of hapless spineless Liberals waiting morosely to have their heads lopped off, it is a lowly staffer who makes a stand.

Rabz
February 8, 2023 8:54 am

Australian adults will be able to get a fifth dose of the COVID-19 vaccine within a fortnight, after the federal government accepted advice from its expert vaccine advisory body.

And hysterical gullible hypochondriac imbeciles across the country did rejoice.

shatterzzz
February 8, 2023 8:58 am

Mention of ‘melted clocks’ .. this is on one of my walls! .. LOL!
https://postimg.cc/9RY7yvvR

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 8, 2023 8:58 am

after the federal government accepted advice from its expert vaccine advisory body.

*top*men*

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 8, 2023 9:05 am

Are you resistant to COVID-19 tyranny? If so, by law, you could be classified as an “Enemy of the State”

I told my kids in 2015, within my lifetime:

1) I will become an enemy of the state
2) Bitcoin will go to 1 million dollars

One down, one to go

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 8, 2023 9:06 am

Don’t always admire Paul Kelly, but he is a keen observer of the decline and fall of Australian leadership.

The church has confronted its sins. Not so, the secular state. There is next to no public recognition whatsoever of the failings and abuse of power committed by the powerful within our society – police, law, media and politics. None. There is no moral or intellectual accounting, just deceptive leaders.

‘Doing the right thing’ is long gone as an Australian civic virtue.

Leon L
Leon L
February 8, 2023 9:06 am

Thanks Tinta for the Paul Kelly post.
I agree with Calli.
A good article spoiled by missing the most important hurdle.

For those who still have faith in “The Science” and “mRNA vaccines”, time for some medical Alzheimers from the great Saint Anthony of Fauci.

A 28 second video on the practice of testing vaccines in the scientific way.
From el gato malo at Bad Cattitude.
Everyone should spend 30 secs getting it from Tony himself.

shatterzzz
February 8, 2023 9:06 am

Australian adults will be able to get a fifth dose of the COVID-19 vaccine within a fortnight,

Gosh, golly!, isn’t it exciting..! only two more doses and a “free” set of steak knives! .. LOL!

will
will
February 8, 2023 9:09 am

Dotsays:
February 8, 2023 at 8:29 am
Australian adults will be able to get a fifth dose of the COVID-19 vaccine within a fortnight, after the federal government accepted advice from its expert vaccine advisory body.

Wowee. What a time to be alive.

who would have thought the “expert vaccine advisory body” was all in for vaccines?

Leon L
Leon L
February 8, 2023 9:15 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
February 8, 2023 9:15 am

From news.com.au

Today host Karl Stefanovic has slammed the RBA and the big banks following the ninth consecutive rate hike.

King Karl.
The peoples champ.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 8, 2023 9:15 am

The claim that there were balloons in the Trump years has been comprehensively debunked by a number of people who’d know, including the former Director of National Intelligence. That these claims have been made, and the awful incident where 51 former CIA and FBI guys said the Hunter laptop was not genuine and probably Russian disinformation, tells you that the USA is in dire trouble – too many bad actors in too many positions.
Marjorie Taylor-Greene has come out swinging (I’d be happy to do a bit of swinging with her) and is taking the Pentagon to task for its ballooning stories

On Monday, Georgia Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene demanded an investigation into the claim made by the Biden administration that Chinese spy balloons infiltrated the United States during former President Donald Trump’s time in office.

Greene expressed skepticism that President Trump was unaware of such incidents and suggested that the Pentagon may have kept security information from him. She called for an investigation into the matter to determine the truth and to ensure that the President is always informed of any potential security threats.

She tweeted, “If it’s true the Pentagon purposely did NOT tell President Trump of Chinese Spy Balloons during his administration then we had a serious breach in command during the Trump admin. The POTUS is the Commander in Chief. We must investigate and hold accountable those who broke rank.”

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 8, 2023 9:20 am

They ordered 14m of the new Vax so even at only $20 each that is $280m.

Then there is distribution costs and I believe a payment to Dr or pharmacy of $32 so the numbers start adding up to real money.

I am presuming this is the bivalent one TGA approved a couple of weeks ago. The same one that WSJ article in Oz 2 days later said was ineffective.

Something very evil is going on.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 8, 2023 9:27 am

In Search Engine Wars news:

Reinventing search with a new AI-powered Microsoft Bing and Edge, your copilot for the web

Today, we’re launching an all new, AI-powered Bing search engine and Edge browser, available in preview now at Bing.com, to deliver better search, more complete answers, a new chat experience and the ability to generate content. We think of these tools as an AI copilot for the web.

Based on ChatGPT’s performance, the Global IQ is in for a sharp dip.

P
P
February 8, 2023 9:29 am

A sea of supporters farewells a giant of the Church

Sweltering summer heat, angry protestors and a media scrum did little to deter around 4000 mourners from attending Cardinal George Pell’s funeral in Sydney.

Around 2000 people packed St Mary’s Cathedral and almost the same number gathered outside to watch the service on large screens.

People from all walks of life – the young and young at heart, mums with prams, the elderly and everything in between, stood in stifling conditions to pay their respects to the very public prelate.

About 150 people protesting the church’s conservative views on LGBT rights and its response to the child abuse crisis began chanting “Pell, go to hell”, which could be heard inside the cathedral where the Cardinal served for more than a decade as archbishop.

In the end it was the faithful who had the last word. As the hearse carrying the coffin made its way to the crypt of the cathedral, mourners drowned out the protesters by joining in song to the sound of Ave Maria.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 8, 2023 9:30 am

The Fairly F**kable Laura Jayes is interviewing (wait for it) Eric Swalwell!

Cassie of Sydney
February 8, 2023 9:34 am

“Mother Lodesays:
February 8, 2023 at 8:52 am”

100 upticks.

A reminder, Maiden was also involved in the Porter affair.

I wrote a thread of this back in late 2021, where I described these women and their involvement in the Lehmann/Porter affairs as a monstrous regimen of females, an evil coven comprising La Amphibian, Maiden, Crabb, Wong. Hanson-Dung, Gallagher, Dyer, Nilligan, and others.

I have zero sympathy for Maiden and the Amphibian. Zero.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 8, 2023 9:35 am

Lehrmann sues the gold toothed media rats.
Sometimes it takes a nobody to bring down a somebody.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 8, 2023 9:36 am

Wong should celebrate benefits of colonial history. Nick Cater

12:00AM February 8, 2023
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There is little doubt Penny Wong’s forebears lived lives more brutal, unjust and less equal than ours. Yet to insinuate that her Hakka Chinese ancestors lived under the yoke of colonial oppression in British North Borneo is a curious interpretation of history.

Wong’s speech at King’s College London last week did nothing to enhance her personal reputation or that of the country she represents. The raising of alleged historical grievances may be common diplomatic practice in less peaceful parts of the world, but if Wong wants to drag them in to our dialogue with Britain she needs to do more than rely on century-old family anecdotes.

Wong’s mother’s maternal ancestors arrived from Britain to settle in the young colony of South Australia in 1836. The other side of her family, however, “had a very different experience of British colonisation”. “Many from these clans laboured for the British North Borneo company in tin mines and plantations for tobacco and timber,” she said. “Many worked as domestic servants for British colonists, as did my own grandmother.”

Wong does a great disservice to the legacy of Sir William Hood Treacher, the first British governor of Borneo from 1881 to 1887. Treacher’s profound opposition of slavery was incorporated into the royal charter of the North Borneo Chartered Company to which our Foreign Minister referred. The charter ordained that “the company shall to the best of its power discourage and, as far as may be practicable, abolish by degrees, any system of domestic servitude existing among the tribes of the coast or interior of Borneo; and no foreigners whether European, Chinese or other, shall be allowed to own slaves of any kind in the company’s territories”.

It’s not for nothing North Borneo was declared a protectorate. The region had a brutal history of slavery, kidnapping, tribal headhunting and piracy. The establishment of the North Borneo Company in 1882 paved the way for the ultimate extinction of slavery and the end of piracy. It substituted a strong, liberal and just government for numerous weak, cruel and unjust ones. It introduced the rule of law and a justice system that made no distinction between races and creeds, rich and poor, or master and slave. It put a stop to headhunting and brought law and order to outlying districts opening the way for free trade. The new-found stability and security of property right attracted European and Chinese capital, heralding rapid economic development.

Hakka clans were not forced labourers. They were free settlers, most of whom arrived in North Borneo at the express invitation of the British, who recognised the desirability of attracting hardworking, entrepreneurial Chinese people. They were part of a larger Hakka diaspora that fled eastern China to escape the 20-year Hakka-Punti Clan wars. Estimates of the number of Hakkas who died in that conflict range from 100,000 to a million. Tens of thousands were captured by pirates or bandits and sold into slavery in South America, Southeast Asia or Cuba. The lucky ones made it to Borneo, Singapore, Australia or other parts of the anglosphere.

North Borneo in the late 19th century was a sanctuary from oppression and it is highly unlikely Wong’s ancestors were trapped under some harsh colonial yoke.

The civic order and rule of law brought by the British was a marked contrast to the tribal instability that preceded it or the tribal instability in China in the latter part of the Qing dynasty Wong’s ancestors probably fled. Hakka migrants would have “laboured” in plantations much as the Hakka people who immigrated to Australia at that time “laboured” building railways. They laboured in tin mines in North Borneo much as miners from Cornwall laboured in copper mines on Yorke Peninsula.

Wong’s ahistoricism doesn’t end there. She repeats the myth that Australia didn’t take Asia seriously until the election of Gough Whitlam. The history of her father’s connection with Australia paints a very different picture. Frances Wong was one of the 20,000 Asian scholars who studied at Australian universities between 1950 and the mid-’80s under the Menzies government’s Colombo Plan. Labor offered only equivocal support for the Colombo Plan, variously complaining about the cost, the danger of undermining the White Australia policy and gifting scholarships to our former Japanese enemies. Menzies’ cultural and trade diplomacy helped repair the damage in our relations with Asian countries caused by the arbitrary expulsion of Asian migrants under Labor between 1945 and 1949. That was the measure Labor immigration minister Arthur Calwell was trying to justify in parliament in December 1947 with these words: “There are a lot of Wongs among the Chinese community but, as I think Mr White, the member for Balaclava, will agree, ‘two Wongs don’t make a white’.” It would be unfair to make too much of the attitudes of long-dead Labor leaders. Calwell, Ben Chifley and Doc Evatt were products of their times. Yet if Wong is determined to judge present-day Britain by its past failings, real or imagined, why shouldn’t we judge her party that way? Should we call on the Prime Minister to take the knee in recognition of Labor’s historical racism? Or should we fight the modern trend of judging yesterday by the standards of today?

Far from making false accusations about Britain’s past, Wong should celebrate our great inheritance of the rule of law, democracy, and stable institutions. She should be embracing the common values of freedom, fairness and justice that make the bonds between Britain, the US and Australia some of the most natural and secure of any group of countries on earth.

Dot
Dot
February 8, 2023 9:40 am

I wrote a thread of this back in late 2021, where I described these women and their involvement in the Lehmann/Porter affairs as a monstrous regimen of females, an evil coven comprising La Amphibian, Maiden, Crabb, Wong. Hanson-Dung, Gallagher, Dyer, Nilligan, and others.

On my command, unleash hell (the chat logs).

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 8, 2023 9:45 am

All is not darkness, danger and doom! There is to be a sequel to Fawlty Towers!

cohenite
February 8, 2023 9:50 am

Another random black guy attacks random white guy in the US. Fancy that. At least this black guy gave the white guy a fighting chance since he used a knife and was a double amputee as a result of his past violence.

This will probably be ignored:

GE Hitachi Signs Contract for the First North American Small Modular Reactor

MatrixTransform
February 8, 2023 9:51 am

Once again. This “earthquake forecasting” nonsense has got to stop

why?

P
P
February 8, 2023 9:52 am

Statue of Mary untouched in earthquake that demolished cathedral in Turkey

The image of Our Lady was unharmed in the quake that brought down Annunciation Cathedral in the city of Alexandretta in the Turkish province of Hatay. The cathedral was the main church of the Apostolic Vicariate of Anatolia.

Crossie
Crossie
February 8, 2023 9:55 am

Dot says:
February 8, 2023 at 8:04 am
Trump needs to win just to rub it in and punish the steal. What the Democrats did in 2020 was seditious.

What McConnell and his RINOs did is just as seditious. Republicans have no hope until he is gone.

Dot
Dot
February 8, 2023 9:57 am

It is incredible how many gullible idiots willingly donate to that dutchsinse fool.

Crossie
Crossie
February 8, 2023 9:59 am

In actual fact, I blame McConnell even more than the Democrats, they are doing what comes natural to them, what they have always done. McConnell, instead of providing leadership in opposition, is colluding with Democrats against Republican voters and representatives. The world will be a better place when the Good Lord decides to take him (politicians like him never retire, they die in office).

win
win
February 8, 2023 10:01 am

And to think Dot the Queens were really quite civilised compared to this bunch of harpies. It says a lot when quotes from 450 years ago still pack a [punch.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 8, 2023 10:04 am

Knuckle Draggersays:

February 8, 2023 at 8:22 am

Boambee – exactomundo.

I have no problem with 16 year olds being given the vote, as long as they are also:

The Greens want to:-
(a) lower the voting age to 16; and
(b) raise the age for any criminal responsibility to 14.
So, in the space of two years, you go from having zero idea about right and wrong to being able to exercise sound political judgement.
Sure.

Roger
Roger
February 8, 2023 10:05 am

Talk about chutzpah…

Self-described parliamentary infiltrator and denier of Australian sovereignty Lidia Thorpe has complained that she has not been invited to consult with Voice working groups on its design.

Why don’t they want Lidia’s beneficent presence at their meetings? It’s a mystery.

Interestingly, she also revealed that Peter Dutton has consulted with two such groups (how many are there?). Which would seem to confirm what I posted here yesterday – Dutton’s concern with the Voice is about the details; he doesn’t oppose it in principle.

Roger
Roger
February 8, 2023 10:08 am

Speak of the devil…Mark Knight #2 is a corker.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 8, 2023 10:08 am

There is to be a sequel to Fawlty Towers!
Cleese once said that alimony was keeping him poor, so he had to keep working.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 8, 2023 10:11 am

I think the last State of the Union I watched was one of GWB’s horseshit outings.
The political class wants you to watch the theatre, not what they are actually doing.
Twitter will tell me what to be outraged about later.
Yawn.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 8, 2023 10:14 am

Travelling light for women involves taking a dozen changes of clothes instead of twenty.
Older men exchanging pained glances at each other as they test their backs pulling huge heavy cases off the baggage carousel. The women then marvelling at their frugality in packing – this conversation is one way traffic naturally.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 8, 2023 10:17 am

“I’ll just do my hair quickly”
When has this ever happened?

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 8, 2023 10:17 am

Speak of the devil…Mark Knight #2 is a corker.

Roger is quite right.
Lidia on the hog, lol.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 8, 2023 10:18 am

I look forward to Wong acknowledging the bloke who pretty well founded the Aussie navy – William Rooke Creswell – and his fight against piracy. This was in 1873, when Creswell was posted to HMS Thalia, a corvette operating out of Singapore.

Temporarily transferred to Midge, a small sloop, barque-rigged but with twin screws, Creswell embarked on a series of missions, often in ships’ boats and a small schooner against pirates. These were small, often desperate events, fought with small guns and rockets backed up with small-arms.

One action saw a fierce fight against two large boats and about 120 pirates, with the British contingent heavily outnumbered and, to make matters worse, the schooner aground on a mud flat. The ensuing action saw repeated attempts to refloat her while taking defensive action, and Creswell took a heavy Schneider bullet to the thigh. However he continued to fight, and the pirate attack was eventually beaten off and the schooner refloated.

The bullet was never found, and Creswell later surmised it was still inside him ‘for the rest of his days’. He was promoted as a result of the action.

Roger
Roger
February 8, 2023 10:18 am

Lidia on the hog, lol.

And Bandt’s face.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 8, 2023 10:22 am

From memory the Borneo area was one of the most savage/pirate/shithole areas of the Victorian era.
Taken over by the Poms in effect to allow sea trade to flourish unimpeded.

Roger
Roger
February 8, 2023 10:26 am

Taken over by the Poms in effect to allow sea trade to flourish unimpeded.

And general prosperity to rise.

The heartless bastards.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 8, 2023 10:26 am

promiscuous exchanges of each others’ smells within their camp such as ants do with pheromones to recognise their sisters

Greatn now i have the horrible image of insectoid 7-Nilligan/La-Amphibian hybrids queefing in each others faces seared into my brain.
I HOPE you ARE happY!!!, Christmas is CANCELLED because of YOU!!!”

Pogria
Pogria
February 8, 2023 10:27 am

Bulk Brittany believes herself to be indestructible.
The comments say otherwise. snork

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 8, 2023 10:30 am

Gittins must be 150 now. I remember at an economics tute in the 80s another student called him a big fat turd. I also remember he wrote it took more energy to make a car go from 0 to 10km/h than from 90 to 100. When E = 1/2*m*v^2 was pointed out he said he said he would stick to economics or something. A complete waste of space.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 8, 2023 10:35 am

Heres where the wheels will fall off for Sneakers in WA, and the golden rhinestone codpiece of cornucopia will stop rotating and spunking money at the Eastern States.

WA’s push for 2030 coal exit draws broad warnings the power system ‘may not cope’

In short.
With the closure of all WA coal power in 5 years there is ZERO% chance of gas making up the shortfall.
Gas units designed to operate for peak times are already running 24/7 – and starting to feel the sting of “renewballs” creaming off the higher prices while they cop the slops at the bottom.
The existing gas pipeline is already at capacity- so even with new gas plants being built (and why would you when you are next in line for the 5 minutes hate as a fossil fuel) there is a lack of available fuel.
And we “only” need to upgrade all our transmission lines to allow more feed in from renewballs pirates.

This is actually a national crisis, without WAs exports thats a massive chunk of Australias exports rooted.

Roger
Roger
February 8, 2023 10:36 am
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 8, 2023 10:38 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
February 8, 2023 10:39 am

Pogriasays:
February 8, 2023 at 10:27 am

Linky no worky.

Robert Sewell
February 8, 2023 10:43 am

Wally Dali:

But the tattoos are a shame.
Tattoos = issues.

Tattoos are a sign of poor impulse control.
A bit like the yellow and black stripes on a wasp.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 8, 2023 10:47 am

‘a sequel to Fawlty Towers!’

Oh no. No, no, no no no. There is absolutely no chance it will come within cooee of the original.

They also said they’d make a sequel to Ghostbusters, and just look at it.

Robert Sewell
February 8, 2023 10:47 am

Bourne 1879:

“If you’re 65 or over, or you’re an adult at risk of severe Covid illness, and it’s been six months since your last booster or infection, it’s now time for a booster.”

Tell ’em they’re dreamin’.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 8, 2023 10:49 am

Anchor What says:
February 8, 2023 at 9:30 am

The Fairly F**kable Laura Jayes is interviewing (wait for it) Eric Swalwell!

Anchor What

that should be Eric Swallowswell

Pogria
Pogria
February 8, 2023 10:49 am

feelthebernsays:
February 8, 2023 at 10:39 am
Pogriasays:
February 8, 2023 at 10:27 am

Linky no worky.

This should work.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 8, 2023 10:50 am

Successful sequels:

Wick
Rocky
The Expendables
The Terminator (note: only II)

That’s it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 8, 2023 10:51 am

Pogria says:
February 8, 2023 at 10:49 am

feelthebernsays:
February 8, 2023 at 10:39 am
Pogriasays:
February 8, 2023 at 10:27 am

Linky no worky.

This should work.

Just 2 Comments so far

– The trial was cancelled because of concerns for her mental health but she is fine now to testify for the media.

– So why wasn’t she prepared to face the truth in the non-civil case? She has never proven any of her accusations?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 8, 2023 10:51 am

Also, and as a possible, Deadpool.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 8, 2023 10:51 am

Mad Max 2?

Pogria
Pogria
February 8, 2023 10:53 am

KD,
the sequel to Ghostbusters that was made a couple of years ago is pretty good. Note, NOT the cringing all-female fest. Even the makers of that one are pretending they know nothing about it.

I really enjoyed the latest one. Egon’s grandchildren save the world. No woke crap either.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 8, 2023 10:55 am

Yeah righto – Max 2, but scratch all the others until Fury Road.

A transgender inclusive, non-offensive Fawlty Towers with a nice manager and nice staff and nice guests being nice to each other is not inspirational.

If the Poms can’t make Little Britain any more, they sure as shit can’t bring in a genuine Towers II.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 8, 2023 10:55 am

Sounds like Brittany will be happy to pull on her big girl panties this time. I’m beginning to think she is part of the problem.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 8, 2023 10:56 am

Real Clear Defense – Alexander Vindman and the Road to World War III

By Francis P. Sempa – February 07, 2023

Retired U.S. Army LTC Alexander Vindman, who gained fame for helping Democrats impeach President Donald Trump for a phone call Trump had with Ukrainian officials in July 2019, is urging the Biden administration and its Western allies to swiftly and dramatically increase military aid and supplies to Ukraine to help the Ukrainian armed forces credibly threaten to take back Crimea, which Russian forces seized in 2014.

He lays out a Ukrainian military campaign–armed and funded by the United States and its NATO allies–that he claims will cause Russian President Vladimir Putin to negotiate a Russian withdrawal from Crimea and reduce the risk of a wider war. Vindman is reminiscent of those European statesmen and generals before and during World War I who thought that mobilizing for war would somehow prevent it and, if not, would result in a swift victory.

Writing on the Foreign Affairs website, Vindman notes that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy made a video appeal at the meeting of the World Economic Forum, saying: “Crimea is our land, our territory,” and requesting Western nations to “give us your weapons” so that Ukraine can retake “what is ours.” In his article, Vindman urges Washington and NATO to “give Ukraine the weapons and assistance it needs to win quickly and decisively in all occupied territories north of Crimea–and to credibly threaten to take the peninsula militarily.” Vindman suggests that a credible threat to militarily retake Crimea will be sufficient to bring Putin to the negotiating table and end the war on terms favorable to Ukraine.

Vindman has been one of the most vociferous war hawks when it comes to U.S. involvement in the Russia-Ukraine War. Politico reports that Vindman is organizing a group of experienced American military contractors “who would travel to Ukraine and embed themselves with small units near the front lines” and provide Ukrainian forces with “military logistics support.” Back in the summer of 2022, Vindman traveled to Ukraine to help the country wage successful war against Russia. He called the Ukraine war “the most important geopolitical event of the last 20 years & maybe the next 20 years.”

And Vindman has not shied away from partisan politics in his “geopolitical” analysis. He has blamed former President Trump, Trump’s Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the Republican Party, and Fox News for “emboldening Russia to invade Ukraine,” even though Russia’s invasions of Ukraine occurred during the Obama and Biden administrations. “There is blood on the Republican Party’s hands,” Vindman said. “They were partially responsible for what is happening in Ukraine.”

Vindman claims that if the U.S. and NATO continue to provide military assistance to Ukraine incrementally instead of giving Ukraine everything it needs now, the risk of widening the war and embroiling NATO in the conflict will increase. But, he claims, with swift and decisive Western military support, including hundreds of tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, advanced fighter aircraft, long and short-range missiles, and thousands of rocket systems, Ukraine can credibly threaten to retake Crimea, which he claims will force Putin to negotiate, withdraw from Crimea, and will supposedly reduce the risks of a wider war.

Vindman even lays out a tactical strategy that includes tying down Russian forces in the Luhansk, Kherson, and northern Donetsk regions, severing Russia’s land route to Ukraine by pushing through to the Sea of Azov, and interfering with Russia’s military resupply route by destroying the Kerch Strait Bridge that connects Russia to the Crimea. This would be followed by “weeks of strikes” on Russian armed forces, including air bases, naval installations, transportation nodes, and command and control centers. Then Ukraine would launch “land and amphibious attacks to gain a foothold in Crimea,” and move on to seize Russia’s naval installation at Sevastopol, the capital of Simferopol, Feodosiya, and Kerch. Unless, that is, the Clausewitzian “friction” of war intervenes, as it usually does.

There are a lot of assumptions underlying Vindman’s plan.

One is his claim that “Western officials are less worried about Russian nuclear saber rattling than they once were.” He does not identify who those officials are or why they are allegedly less worried about nuclear escalation.

Another assumption is that a dramatic increase in Western military supplies–giving Ukraine everything it needs to defeat Russia–is less dangerous than what he calls “incremental escalation.” And Vindman assures us that “Putin has no interest in a fight with NATO.” Presumably, that includes a NATO that supplies Ukraine with everything it needs to defeat Russia.

Perhaps Vindman’s most questionable assumption–which is not mentioned in the Foreign Affairs article, but that he voiced after his trip to Ukraine in the summer of 2022–is that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is “the most important geopolitical event of the last 20 years.” Others would argue that China’s rise–economically and militarily–and its expanded influence throughout Eurasia and beyond is a more important geopolitical event, especially when it is coupled with the growing strategic partnership between China and Russia.

In the past, American statesmen recognized the importance of maintaining the geopolitical pluralism of Eurasia. It is why we sided with Stalin against Hitler. It is why we sided with Mao against the Soviet regime.

But all the Vindman approach does is to push Russia even closer to China. And as tensions increase in the western Pacific over Taiwan, Vindman’s counsel may get us into a two-front war that nobody should want.

Roger
Roger
February 8, 2023 10:56 am

Successful sequels:

Wick
Rocky
The Expendables
The Terminator

World War II.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 8, 2023 10:56 am

The Netflix adaptation would have an all-black, all-poof cast as well.

mem
mem
February 8, 2023 10:57 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
February 8, 2023 at 9:36 am
Wong should celebrate benefits of colonial history. Nick Cater

Nothing like Wong on toast for breakfast! Made my day.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 8, 2023 10:57 am

Caddyshack II certainly sucked.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 8, 2023 11:00 am

Liberal senator lists ‘five reasons voice is right’
Noah Yim
NOAH YIM

Liberal senator Andrew Bragg has backed his call in favour of the Indigenous voice to parliament with a 21-page paper titled “five reasons the voice is right”.

“I believe it’s essential – if this is going to be a success – a large proportion of Coalition-voting people will be voting yes,” said Senator Bragg, who has in the past split from the Coalition line on some issues.

He repeated his call for the government to establish a bipartisan parliamentary committee to provide recommendations on the voice model, telling Sky News on Wednesday: “I don’t understand why that hasn’t already been done, to be honest. I think there’s plenty of time for that to occur.”

The Coalition has not yet settled on its official position on the voice to parliament.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 8, 2023 11:02 am

Rusty has Gladiator 2 underway. He’s been a bit chubby these days so it’ll be interesting which way it goes.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 8, 2023 11:03 am

Oh no. No, no, no no no. There is absolutely no chance it will come within cooee of the original. They also said they’d make a sequel to Ghostbusters, and just look at it.

One example is not proof – they also did sequels to Star Wars (multiple), Star Trek and Avatar …oh …wait…..

Roger
Roger
February 8, 2023 11:05 am

A transgender inclusive, non-offensive Fawlty Towers with a nice manager and nice staff and nice guests being nice to each other is not inspirational.

I’d like to think that with John Cleese involved the follies of post-modernity would be sent up ruthlessly. But he’s working on it with Rob Reiner, which suggests otherwise.

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 8, 2023 11:05 am

Successful sequels: Topgun:Maverick

dopey
dopey
February 8, 2023 11:06 am

Phillip Island 1961. Complainant C alleged assault of two boys, 12-13 yeas old. C claimed he recognised Pell as the abuser when he saw him on TV, forty years later. He had heard compensation
payments of $50,000 were on offer. He was prominent in the Costigan report, a member of the Painter’s and Docker’s union. When Milligan wrote about him he had 39 convictions, many for assault. Milligan described him as a ‘former wharfie’ who ‘ had not been an angel.’

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 8, 2023 11:06 am

The AFR View

No alternative to ‘painful’ rate rise squeeze

As RBA Governor Philip Lowe says allowing high inflation to become entrenched in people’s expectations would be “very costly” to reduce later.

Reserve Bank Philip Lowe has opened the year with a blunt, robust message that fighting inflation necessarily will impose more of a “painful squeeze” on mortgage-borrowing households before it’s over.

The central bank fights inflation through the single monetary policy lever of a higher cash rate that flows through into higher mortgage repayments.

The pain is transmitted primarily by squeezing household disposable income so that households cut back on consumer spending.

That aims to put a further squeeze on company profits, restrict the currently “strong” domestic demand, modestly push up unemployment and limit how much business can push up prices and wages.

Dr Lowe continues to warn against the risk of a “prices-wages” spiral just as some in the government continue to encourage the unions to push up nominal wages. Inflation may have peaked at close to 8 per cent.

But, even with a flagged two more cash rate increases to 3.85 per cent, the Reserve Bank doesn’t project inflation falling to within its 2 per cent to 3 per cent target until the second half of 2025 – two-and-a-half years in which anything could happen.

The idea that a government agency, even a politically independent central bank, would deliberately impose financial pain on ordinary Australians jars discordantly with the contemporary political culture that governments must do everything to protect its citizens from disease, spend endlessly on social programs and under no circumstances leave anyone worse off.

This is the culture that Labor encouraged in promising voters last year – even after the Russian invasion of Ukraine – that it would boost their living standards without have a genuine growth strategy to support it.

But this conceit of big government has been mugged as pumping up a supply constrained economy with massive budget stimulus and extraordinary central bank easing spilled over into higher inflation.

Of course, no-one complained when governments handed out job subsidies and the Reserve Bank was slashing interest rates and printing money.

And neither government nor the central bank warned there would be a price to pay.

But as Dr Lowe points out, allowing high inflation to become entrenched in people’s expectations would be “very costly” to reduce later.

And, as Treasurer Jim Chalmers seems to understand, borrowing even more money now to ease the household squeeze would just put a floor under inflation and keep interest rates higher.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 8, 2023 11:07 am

Maybe it was the lack of that Kenny Loggins magic.

Robert Sewell
February 8, 2023 11:07 am

Calli:

As for Cardinal Pell not showing enough emotion to victims, isn’t a practical remedy far more valuable than loud mouth wailing?

It reminds me of something I learnt in Saudi – “To the Arab, the appearance IS the reality.”
It looks like there is a transfer of values occurring between the two societies.

P
P
February 8, 2023 11:08 am

The West Doesn’t Want the Ukraine War to End
Recorded on February 7, 2023

It’s been almost one year since Russia invaded Ukraine and there seems to be no end in sight to the conflict. Is this what the U.S. and other Western countries actually want?

bespoke
bespoke
February 8, 2023 11:11 am

Eyriesays:
February 8, 2023 at 11:05 am
Successful sequels: Topgun:Maverick

No fruity volleyball scene?

Roger
Roger
February 8, 2023 11:11 am

It is why we sided with Mao against the Soviet regime.

Mmm…perhaps we need to go over how Henry’s brilliant idea brought us here.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 8, 2023 11:13 am

From the Oz (no, I dont subscribe – ditched that years ago when creeping wokeism got them too)

RBA rate rises to run for months…….. Interest bills are set to soar as the RBA increases rates for the ninth time since May in a bid to contain stubborn inflation.

1) And this after they *promised* us so recently that rates would stay low for the for-seeable future – (*Top* Men*)
2) The interest rate = the rental price of money. It is the most important price in the whole economy – it, like all prices, cannot be ‘centrally planned’ without causing economic distortions.
3) Even at 3.5%, the interest rate remains well below the ‘official’ inflation rate which is about 7.5%, and the real rate which is probably twice that. Until interest rates *exceed* inflation rates, they will continue to incentivise people to borrow more now and pay back with less valuable dollars later.
4) Inflation is ‘always and everywhere’ a monetary problem (Milton Friedman): ie it is caused by expansion of the money supply (see #2 and 3 above) – rising prices are merely a symptom of that, not the disease itself.

Dot
Dot
February 8, 2023 11:17 am

Over milking the scrambled eggs there mole.

Equal treatment for male and female crimes, that’s my line.

I have a couple of issues: Seeking out an abuser after the fact is rare (for arguably a licit relationship) and if someone has strong protective values of their kids and stays with their wife, their relationship isn’t ruined.

The problem is the tsunami of proof needed to see that women are committing these crimes, a whisper is enough to damn a man. It is abused in family law.

Then there is the absurd situation seen in the US where abusers get paid child support from their victims.

If she got pregnant there’d be a pity party, if a man did the same, he’d get put in gaol for decades and likely murdered.

…and if you re game enough to say there should be unequal treatment for crimes, you need to say how women are biologically different and what other rights need to be different.

Roger
Roger
February 8, 2023 11:19 am

There’s quite a bit the government could do in the area of workplace reform to increase productivity and put some downward pressure on inflation.

If they weren’t beholden to the unions.

Dot
Dot
February 8, 2023 11:19 am

Phillip Island 1961. Complainant C alleged assault of two boys, 12-13 yeas old. C claimed he recognised Pell as the abuser when he saw him on TV, forty years later. He had heard compensation
payments of $50,000 were on offer. He was prominent in the Costigan report, a member of the Painter’s and Docker’s union. When Milligan wrote about him he had 39 convictions, many for assault. Milligan described him as a ‘former wharfie’ who ‘ had not been an angel.’

So he’s probably a murderer and a perjurer.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 8, 2023 11:19 am

Statesperson Wong, deftly playing the identity politics card in the high rollers identity politics casino of London.

“Many worked as domestic servants for British colonists, as did my own grandmother.”

Oddly enough, one of my grandmothers (and several other relatives) was herself a domestic servant to the British. It was a very common low-end (but respectable) job back in the day.

And, even as she spoke, Wong would have been well aware that domestic servitude is normal in her birthplace, Malaysia. Many, if not most, middle class Malaysian homes have at least a maid/amah – perhaps even some of her Dads’ family.

Of course this is a hangover of British Colonial awfulness – and certainly not oppressive or exploitative in any way.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
February 8, 2023 11:23 am

A very good looking man walks into a singles bar, gets a drink and has a seat. During the course of the evening he tries to chat with every single woman who walks into the bar, with no luck. Suddenly a really ugly man, and I mean R-E-A-L-L-Y ugly man walks into the bar. He sits at the bar, and within seconds he is surrounded by women. Very soon he walks out of the bar with the two of the most beautiful women you ever saw.

Disheartened by all this, the good looking man asks the barman “Excuse me, but that really ugly man just came in here and left with those two stunning women – what’s his secret? He’s as ugly as sin and I’m everything a girl could want but have not been able to connect all night – what’s going on?”

“Well” said the barman “I don’t know how he does it, but he does the same thing every night. He walks in, orders a drink, and just sits there licking his eyebrows…”

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 8, 2023 11:24 am

kd wong, “Mum, I wanted a Coolite for Christmas.”

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
February 8, 2023 11:25 am

I think music in itself is healing. It’s an explosive expression of humanity. It’s something we are all touched by. No matter what culture we’re from, everyone loves music.

– Billy Joel

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 8, 2023 11:25 am

The big difference with the examples of sequels is that the original Fawlty Towers was so long ago. Just another IP they are trying to raid, I suppose. And a pre-woke classic they want to kill and replace with a woke version.

If they are calling it a sequel, and not a re-boot, then the cultural disconnect (here I refer to TV culture, which has veered up its own fundament while other people have been continuing to watch ‘old’ shows for decades) will make any connection tenuous at the very best. And ‘very best’ almost never happens.

I would speculate that they will start with the very basic outline and populate it according to the tastes of ‘modern audiences’ which, after years of hunting, have not yet been found.

It will be boring because all creative possibilities will be disqualified due to current woke pieties. I expect the owner will be a black woman. She will likely be intelligent and highly skilled and her frustrations will consist of stupid customers who will possess ‘conservative’ foibles. Manuel will still be a white male but he will be English, and in constant need of assistance and correction by the black woman. The black woman’s husband will be a jovial enough fellow (black, of course) who has learned to accept his wife is always right – an example to all men. The maid will be a younger black woman, most likely lesbian. She and the owner will share a mental plane far above everyone else and share knowing glances to each other as they see stupid clumsy men making fools of themselves before intervening and sorting things out.

When the series fails, it will be the fault of straight white men who lack the courage to watch a series with empowered women and because they are still in love with a now gone white supremacist past.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 8, 2023 11:27 am

At the risk of agreeing with Dot, I agree with Dot.

calli
calli
February 8, 2023 11:28 am

Successful sequel – Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

The other two were hideous.

Nazis! I hate these guys! 😀

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
February 8, 2023 11:28 am

Rogersays:
February 8, 2023 at 11:19 am
There’s quite a bit the government could do in the area of workplace reform to increase productivity and put some downward pressure on inflation.

If they weren’t beholden to the unions.

Quite obviously, the Productivity Commission does not seem to apply to the Federal Guv’ment………

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 8, 2023 11:28 am

Hand back your seat,’ says Greens candidate who lost to Thorpe
David Crowe
By David Crowe
February 8, 2023 — 4.29am

A furious row over former Greens senator Lidia Thorpe has sparked demands she give up her Senate seat because it belongs to the party and not to her, with a key preselection rival rebuking her for defecting to the crossbench.

Human rights activist and barrister Julian Burnside, who sought the Senate position in a ballot against Thorpe two years ago, said she had treated Greens supporters badly when their work had won the seat for the party last year.

Thorpe hit back at her critics late on Tuesday by declaring they should stop “demonising” her when she was giving Aboriginal people a say and drew her support from a grassroots collective of sovereign black people.

Greens members privately admitted the “catastrophe” for the party from her defection and said the outcome raised questions over the preselection ballot in June 2020 that elevated her to the Senate rather than naming Burnside.

While some defended the process as a fair fight – Thorpe won the support of 58 per cent of the 2342 members who voted – others said the membership had taken a gamble on the outspoken candidate and discovered it had not paid off.

Burnside, who was the Greens candidate for Kooyong in 2019, said Victorian voters backed the Greens rather than Thorpe and this meant the position in the Senate belonged to the party.

“People voted for the Greens, not for her individually, and I think it’s a pity that their votes will be wasted,” he told this masthead in an interview.

Asked if Thorpe should leave parliament, Burnside said he agreed with that position.

“Whether it follows that she would step out of parliament, I don’t know, but the position belongs to the party, not to her. That’s something that she seems not to understand.”

Greens leader Adam Bandt said on Tuesday he was “sad” that Thorpe had quit the party but some party members acknowledged the danger of branch members resigning if they agreed with her strong objections to the Indigenous Voice to parliament.

James Conlan, a Greens councillor in Merri-bek in Melbourne’s North, resigned from the party on Tuesday and issued a statement that expressed solidarity with Thorpe and called out what he said was structural racism in the Greens.

All is not well in the bouncy castle!

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 8, 2023 11:29 am

How about instead of re-booting a classic, why not try find new, fresh stories that don’t rely on tropes.
Shows that should never be touched.
Fawlty Towers.
Yes Minister, Yes Prime Minister.
Rumpole.

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