Open Thread – Tue 28 Feb 2023


Belisarius Begging for Alms, Jacques-Louis David, 1781


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lotocoti
lotocoti
February 28, 2023 1:05 pm

Hmmm seems I’ve lost a fair few followers on Twitter for daring to criticise Saint Zelensky…

You’d lose more if you told them how much Russia paid Poland for Kiev.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 28, 2023 1:06 pm

Perhaps Alice Springs needs fewer homelessness services and more hostel accommodation.

Also, this plethora of organisations are all sucking on the teat of self-determination, so no law enforcement is part of that deal. We need to start treating wandering people from remote communities like any other Australians, with expectations that they will behave like settled people; either stay put or move permanently into larger towns. If travel is needed, then use cheap accommodation for it, and ensure that such accommodation is available. Too many cooks are brewing this broth.

Dot
Dot
February 28, 2023 1:07 pm

I haven’t slept in five days.

Jim Jones is badly maligned, after all, Angela Davis and Huey Newton gave messages of support. I assume he was a good guy.

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 28, 2023 1:09 pm

Bring back waxed wrap!

The wax is likely made from hydrocarbons calli. Think oil.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 28, 2023 1:10 pm

O/T, but the current reading is “The Whizz Kids” by John A Bryne. They were a group of United States Army Air Force Veterans of World War Two, who sold themselves as a package to Ford Motor Company at the end of Wobbly Wobbly Two. They had no business experience, but promised Henry Ford they could rescue his failing business. The most famous (infamous?) of them was Robert S. McNamara.

One Francis Reith became the head of the ailing Ford Motor Company of France. He discovered a management culture of five hour lunches, and the presenting of new Ford cars to those who said management considered worthy causes – their mistresses, for example. He restructured the company, and sold it to Simca. Interesting reading.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 28, 2023 1:12 pm

I think that’s steel toilets and showers, not aluminium. You see them in all of the roadside toilets where there are often pit toilets too. In simple quite open sorts of buildings. Water tanks, pit toilets, basic services including garbage removal. Not too difficult. The army could do it in a trice.

That Land Council for the area where this camp is found gets a lot of money as it stands and they look like getting more. Where does it all go??

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 28, 2023 1:14 pm

And there it is.

Trot politics writ large.

Treasurer Jim Chalmers caps super tax breaks for accounts with more than $3 million

Treasurer Jim Chalmers will double the tax rates paid by Australians with superannuation account balances worth more than $3 million, in a move he says is about budget sustainability and equity.

shatterzzz
February 28, 2023 1:15 pm

A using that they’re worried about a small tab of plastic over a massive plastic bag.

The local COLES (Wetherill Park) is still using the plastic ties on their own brand bread ..
must have had a bigger collection than Woolies .. LOL!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 28, 2023 1:17 pm

209th!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 28, 2023 1:18 pm

If you’re serious Dot, go to Emergency now, ring a cab. If you decide to put your head down instead tell someone you trust that you’re trying for a sleep so they can keep a check on you. This is not normal.

If you are kidding us, well, let us know.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 28, 2023 1:23 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
February 28, 2023 at 1:14 pm
And there it is.

Trot politics writ large.

Treasurer Jim Chalmers caps super tax breaks for accounts with more than $3 million

Treasurer Jim Chalmers will double the tax rates paid by Australians with superannuation account balances worth more than $3 million, in a move he says is about budget sustainability and equity.

What is the size of a notional super account that would fund Dim Jim’s parliamentary pension? I suspect it would be rather more than $3 million.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 28, 2023 1:24 pm

Revolver News has post about the AZ Gov Hobbs story and suggests not enough evidence.

Having watched the presentation it does seem Berger did have evidence as had given committee members a bundle of evidence and mentions another of 500 pages. She mentioned happy to provide info to any law enforcement and indicated had already done so. The committee stopped her going into details and hurried her along.

I presume lying to that committee is some sort of offence. Other than the obvious motive of trying to remove Hobbs she did mention multiple people and have seen the actual list of the post holders on Twitter.

Revolver did mention the US Govt working together with Sinaloa cartel. Sinaloa provides info on their competition and the Feds get their cases. In return Feds turn blind eye to their activities.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 28, 2023 1:25 pm

The army could do it in a trice.

The last time the Army was deployed to carry out such tasks – the “Intervention” – the tribal elders sat in the dust and complained that their “traditional authority” was being usurped.

johanna
johanna
February 28, 2023 1:25 pm

Been chatting to a friend who just came back from a couple of weeks holiday in Perth and environs, plus Margaret River. She’s a seasoned traveller who has visited many countries and seen a lot of this one, but she’d never been to the West.

I must report that she was unimpressed. She said that Perth was dead – no city ‘vibe’ and a lot of places closed or only open for restricted hours. There didn’t seem to be anywhere to stroll and poke around interesting shops interspersed with cafes and bars such as can be found in most capital cities. Fremantle was OK but small, after a couple of days she’d seen everything she wanted to see.

I suspect that the lockdowns and associated measures bear a lot of the responsibility for this. Tourism oriented businesses must have been just about battered to death.

In the Margaret River region she and her partner drove around planning to visit some wineries. She said that a couple of them were closed when they arrived, but there had not been any such information on the websites. At another one they were greeted by a woman who informed them that they had just missed the tour and tasting, they’d have to come back another time. The road access to some of them was of the dirt track variety, and phone reception came and went, making it difficult to check on location info and opening times en route. All in all, underwhelming, even for experienced travellers who don’t expect everything to go right. Again, probably at least partly due to COVID madness.

It wasn’t all bad – lovely beaches, some good food and wine, some nice scenery. But, she doubted if she’d ever go back, especially given the cost of airfares and accommodation when travelling from ‘over East.’

It’s just as well there is so much mineral wealth in the West. I don’t think tourism is going to generate much income in the forseeable.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 28, 2023 1:26 pm

Bread bag closures – once plastic and effective, then cardboard and guaranteeing to spill 8 slices of WundaWite into the shopping trolley – have undergone a silent makeover.

They are now made of cardboard deeply impregnated with plastic to make them stiffer.

This needs to go the plastic straws route.
The answer is stainless steel.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 28, 2023 1:34 pm

There was once a meme going round that people were inadvertently swallowing the little plastic tags once used to close up plastic bread covers and that is why they changed to cardboard.
Don’t know how true it was.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 28, 2023 1:35 pm

I could tolerate a straw that kindof works but only lasts a short time before it becomes useless, as then I can revert to sipping. But I can’t tolerate a straw that stabs your teeth and tongue as soon as you try to use it.

So updating Diogenes…
There are 3 people in the world who deserve to die from arse cancer ;
the inventor of the cardboard bread tie
the inventor of the METAL straw
the inventor of bamboo cutlery and plates

Sancho Panzer says: February 28, 2023 at 1:26 pm

This needs to go the plastic straws route.
The answer is stainless steel.

Mr Panzer, I’ve got some bad news.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 28, 2023 1:35 pm

Dot you cant run modern diesel engines on recycled cooking oil. You can’t filter it fine enough for electronic injection. It always cost more to recycle it than the cost of fresh diesel.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 28, 2023 1:36 pm

The last time the Army was deployed to carry out such tasks – the “Intervention” – the tribal elders sat in the dust and complained that their “traditional authority” was being usurped.

I think it is time to say too bad about that, and have another go.
Find some other elders would be my solution.
Alice Springs could certainly do with a dose of corrective reality.

sfw
sfw
February 28, 2023 1:37 pm

Lizzie, I spent a fair bit of time in the late 70’s in Alice and the rest of the NT. Back then there were aborigines camping everywhere on the edge of towns. There were other options but they liked living that way, the Todd River bed was full of humpys. I doubt much has changed, don’t discount thinking that it is the way they like to live. I’m sure if they really wanted to live in hostels etc they would’ve been doing it long before now.

132andBush
132andBush
February 28, 2023 1:38 pm

In order to prevent any sea turtle or albatross deaths in and around Griffith (NSW) one now gets an individually wrapped and no doubt heavily modified “paper” straw with ones iced latte.

In a large plastic cup.

cohenite
February 28, 2023 1:47 pm

Dotsays:
February 28, 2023 at 1:07 pm
I haven’t slept in five days.

Falling in love will do that to you.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 28, 2023 1:48 pm

I am surprised no-one here agrees with my view 1.06pm that we need to toughen up on law enforcement and at the same time provide hostel accommodation in the Alice Springs area instead of funding a myriad of teat-sucking ‘services’.

I guess bread tags are the go to for today.

I am off now for lunch. Will report back on the bread tag situation.
The two dirty kids in the pic accompanying that ‘camping disgrace’ article can go hang.

Dot
Dot
February 28, 2023 1:54 pm

Treasurer Jim Chalmers will double the tax rates paid by Australians with superannuation account balances worth more than $3 million, in a move he says is about budget sustainability and equity.

Mmmyes, have you tried cutting spending?

rickw
rickw
February 28, 2023 1:57 pm

I must report that she was unimpressed. She said that Perth was dead – no city ‘vibe’ and a lot of places closed or only open for restricted hours.

Try Melbourne for the most authentic deadness.

Dot
Dot
February 28, 2023 1:59 pm

Dot you cant run modern diesel engines on recycled cooking oil. You can’t filter it fine enough for electronic injection. It always cost more to recycle it than the cost of fresh diesel.

Let’s see the empirical evidence!

No really what filter would you need? Filters will never work? Distillation or similar?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 28, 2023 1:59 pm

I doubt much has changed, don’t discount thinking that it is the way they like to live.

I don’t discount that thinking at all; in fact it is alluded to positively in the article I put up. It is that sort of thinking that is simply reproducing the problem.

It is that ‘thinking’ that has to change and that change has to be brought in from the outside. Laws have to be enforced, elders have to speak up or shut up and let someone else do the job. Old patterns of wandering fecklessness have to be challenged, and positive offers of change produced.

I’d try the army again, the business population of Alice Springs would welcome an intervention building hostels that could provide a temporary housing solution. Once housing is available then other changes can follow.

I recall reading a study on homelessness in urban populations some time ago where it was found providing housing was the best cure to homelessness. This study put no parameters around getting the housing and people were allowed a lot of freedom about how they used it. Once housing was provided, behaviours improved without ‘service’ personnel to attend to it.

Give people a chance and many will take it.
Gary John’s recent book on reframing aboriginal culture, which is holding these people back, is worthwhile considering in the Alice Springs context. An earlier version is in Quadrant.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

… the tribal elders sat in the dust and complained that their “traditional authority” was being usurped.

Usurped…. & deservedly so.
You fellers weren’t much chop as elders, you couldn’t stop your mob playing up, move aside, a new boss is taking over, bigger & more powerful than you.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 28, 2023 2:03 pm

I am very aware of how housing can be wrecked by people with incoherent ‘thinking’ btw.
Avi’s interview of the Alice Springs ex-cop/housing contractor showed that.
My part-aboriginal brother-in-law cued me in to this problem fifty years ago, for he was a housing contractor of few skills who was employed to repair Housing Commission homes. Not because he was aboriginal, for he made no claim to that, but because he was untrained and thus cheap.

Lysander
Lysander
February 28, 2023 2:14 pm

She said that Perth was dead – no city ‘vibe’ and a lot of places closed or only open for restricted hours

Not if you count the meth-heads and drunken locals.

Lysander
Lysander
February 28, 2023 2:21 pm

Wowee.

The kiwis have become the fourth team in history to win a test after being made to follow on. They beat the Brits by 1 run.

Cassie of Sydney
February 28, 2023 2:22 pm

“I haven’t slept in five days.”

Dot, Mardi Gras has finished.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 28, 2023 2:27 pm

I think it is time to say too bad about that, and have another go.

Set up a wide-angled camera in one or more of the dysfunctional remote communities and underneath have a running total (updating continuously) showing the steadily mounting spending on the plethora of indigenous programs.

Let people see the money being poured out and the places they are told the money is being sent. It should be pretty obvious that we have been going down the wrong path for a loooong time.

Frank
Frank
February 28, 2023 2:30 pm

Can I run a VW TDI on filtered 2nd hand cooking oil?

When the girl downstairs moved in her parents came up from somewhere to help her out. Her dad was wearing a tie died waistcoat with embellishments if that helps to narrow down the stereotype. They came in a Land Rover. At one point it was idling in the carpark and I mentioned to him in passing that he had forgotten to turn the engine off. His reply was that he ran it on filtered chip fat from local greasy spoons and it needed a bit of time to get going. He said the car had already paid for itself in diesel savings. I thought he was full of it until the wind changed direction and I got a strong whiff of fish and chips.

No further answers will be forthcoming since I know nothing of cars.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 28, 2023 2:36 pm

in a move he says is about budget sustainability and equity.

I suspect he does not understand the word ‘equity’, thinking it sounds like it must be about equality and yet is a different word so people can’t hold him to it.

But the budget: The government’s big report card is ‘The Budget’, so as far as they are concerned failing all year round and pillaging people in a budget, but then claiming that the budget is healthier (always heroic assumptions built into that) counts as a success.

“Yes we are increasing taxes by $10 billion, but we can announce that the budget position will be $5 billion better!”

Johnny Rotten
February 28, 2023 2:37 pm

132andBushsays:
February 28, 2023 at 1:38 pm
In order to prevent any sea turtle or albatross deaths in and around Griffith (NSW) one now gets an individually wrapped and no doubt heavily modified “paper” straw with ones iced latte.

In a large plastic cup.

I hadn’t realised that the sea levels had risen so much now that the seas now lapped on the shores of Griffith (NSW). Maybe they have confused the recent floods in the Murray/Darling river system with rising sea levels…………………………………………

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrqW_BZu5Xk

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 28, 2023 2:42 pm

Usurped…. & deservedly so.
You fellers weren’t much chop as elders, you couldn’t stop your mob playing up, move aside, a new boss is taking over, bigger & more powerful than you.

Cite you the land rights dispute in Western Australia, way back when, where the “tribal elders” were denounced as frauds, by a “whitefella” who had grown up in the area, and knew more about “tribal law” then they did. To begin with, only initiated men could become tribal elders…

rickw
rickw
February 28, 2023 2:43 pm

No really what filter would you need? Filters will never work? Distillation or similar?

I think you need about 1 micron nominal. Probably best to run it through something like a 10 micron first.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 28, 2023 2:43 pm

Chalmers and his mates in Labor are a bit too fond of saying “We inherited $1 trillion of debt”.
The huge debt that Australia now has was created by politicians of both sides, and not least by the Labor state premiers who were demanding Covid relief monies from the Feds.
There were Labor premiers on the National Cabinet, so why are they being allowed to say they “inherited” the debt. Labor helped create it, and the stupid mask mandates, the lockdowns, the snooping apps.
They participated in the whole disaster.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 28, 2023 2:44 pm

Mmmyes, have you tried cutting spending?

Its spelled “investment” Dot, you heathen.

As in “We are investing 20 billion in health up the wall”.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

only initiated men could become tribal elders

‘zacktly.
If they ain’t got the mud-filled chest scars, missing tooth, & stone-chopped dick, they ain’t an elder.

Vicki
Vicki
February 28, 2023 2:49 pm

If they ain’t got the mud-filled chest scars, missing tooth, & stone-chopped dick, they ain’t an elder.

When my grandson brought 9 or so of his mates for a farm visit last year I showed them our Bora Ring and explained some of the young men initiation procedures.

Some very startled faces!

bespoke
bespoke
February 28, 2023 2:51 pm

callisays:
February 28, 2023 at 11:00 am
Looks like Moly is promoting superficial and sycophantic relationships rather than deep and often difficult ones.

He is a creature of the times.

Surely a cults MO. Disenfranchising an individual from there family. Still some lines get crossed the only option left is to sever links.

Vicki
Vicki
February 28, 2023 2:55 pm

Gary John’s recent book on reframing aboriginal culture, which is holding these people back, is worthwhile considering in the Alice Springs context. An earlier version is in Quadrant.

Johns is an excellent analyst of Aboriginal affairs. He is very, very well informed (academically and practically) and holds no “romantic” illusions about our indigenous mob. Damn pity no-one – of either side of politics – listens to him.

Johnny Rotten
February 28, 2023 2:55 pm

Lysandersays:
February 28, 2023 at 2:21 pm
Wowee.

The kiwis have become the fourth team in history to win a test after being made to follow on. They beat the Brits by 1 run.

Correction. They won the game against England. Not all of the Brits were involved as the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish can attest. Overall, England won the first Test and NZ won the second Test.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 28, 2023 3:07 pm

Hello?

*tap* *tap*

Is this thing on?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 28, 2023 3:08 pm

Johns is an excellent analyst of Aboriginal affairs.

Johns’s most telling point is “What does an Aboriginal child, with a mobile phone, and access to the Internet, want with such a regressive and closed culture?” (I’m quoting from memory.”)

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 28, 2023 3:13 pm

There were Labor premiers on the National Cabinet, so why are they being allowed to say they “inherited” the debt.

In the world of modern politics, everyone has goldfish memories and nobody is held to account.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 28, 2023 3:15 pm

Sharan Burrow went from being one of the biggest critics of the Qatar slaughter house to being one of their biggest boosters.
Too much industry super fund & sovereign fund co-investment will do that.

woolfe
woolfe
February 28, 2023 3:15 pm

Johanna,
Thats good, West Australia is a shit hole, full of sharks, spiders, snakes, heat, crap beer, awful wine, ugly women, endless roadworks, most people have giant purple patches roaming over their bodies, some sort of skin fungus i suspect, it only rains in winter, drivers are totally useless, yea stay away.

Robert Sewell
February 28, 2023 3:17 pm

Dot:

The Commonwealth has 897.1 bn of debt on issue as of 28/2/23.
A lazy trillion dollar (1,031 bn AUD) debt pile before other states and local government is included.
How is this going to be paid off?

It’s not. They’re going to inflate it away and re issue new digital currency. Because Crisis.
Currently Federal and State debt equals $1.666,6??,??? Trillion dollars. The last 5 digits are changing too fast to tell.

Robert Sewell
February 28, 2023 3:21 pm

State and Local government debt is $186,769,000,000 supposedly.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 28, 2023 3:22 pm

Treasurer Jim Chalmers will double the tax rates paid by Australians with superannuation account balances worth more than $3 million, in a move he says is about budget sustainability and equity.

On Sunday, Albo-Teeth was tying himself in knots trying to explain how, back in April, they had “no intention of changing super” but now they are looking at it.
Not a broken promise, just “starting a conversation”.
So we’ve gone from “starting a conversation” on Sunday, to a decision on Tuesday.
In some minor way, this is not a bad thing (in the short term at least).
It means they are getting a beating in their polling over it, so they needed to shut it down with a quick and dirty “tax da rich” measure and move on.

Chris
Chris
February 28, 2023 3:32 pm

Chris I don’t understand why someone hasn’t responded like that. When a politicised police (no service) won’t do anything. Mind you this applies in every place in Australia.

That command is part of a disciplined sequence for a squad of soldiers dealing with a mob of rioters or protesters threatening to go rogue.
Every ‘someone’ who might respond like this as an individual knows that the Police and Australian society in general led by their media and the Prosecution services would betray them for political reasons, their home would be burnt to the ground and their family likely harmed by a mob incited by the media and activists.
Only the certainty of clan-level payback by a larger group than an isolated business owner or householder could protect people when the courts won’t back the Police to protect the rule of law.

Win
Win
February 28, 2023 3:33 pm

Tis amazing to be sure ,indeed it reeks of insanity that governments frantic to decrease the state and federal debt insist on pouring millions of dollars into unsustainable wind and solar energy probably by malicious Marxist design by increasing electricity to wipe out all self employment. What’s the betting green energy once every one is on the public purse will suddenly be discontinued and like China and Russia we will return to fossil fuels.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 28, 2023 3:34 pm

“Rifleman number one; the man in the RED shirt; One round.”

Sorry sir, I thought you said ‘mad minute’

😉

duncanm
duncanm
February 28, 2023 3:37 pm
Chris
Chris
February 28, 2023 3:38 pm

Sorry sir, I thought you said ‘mad minute’

What the heck, that was next, lets roll with it.
GUN GROUP!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 28, 2023 3:39 pm

“Rifleman number one; the man in the RED shirt; One round.”

Spears and nulla nulla’s wouldn’t be much use..

shatterzzz
February 28, 2023 3:42 pm

In order to prevent any sea turtle or albatross deaths in and around Griffith (NSW) one now gets an individually wrapped and no doubt heavily modified “paper” straw with ones iced latte.

And what about all these 251 enclaves that are, currently, dominating the news with unruly behavior .. why does the media never, ever, query if they are recycling responsibly ..
After all, if it will save one dugong …………!

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 28, 2023 3:43 pm

the theory being that Belarus will then offload its own spare stocks to Russia. As Belarus is a non-belligerent, and there is no UN sanctions regime against it, this is quite smart.

Given the limited combat power of Belarus, I suspect they are more valuable playing the ‘fleet in being’ role (like the German navy of WW1), rather than rolling the dice and joining the main game, only to be eliminated.

calli
calli
February 28, 2023 3:44 pm

Chalmers and his mates in Labor are a bit too fond of saying “We inherited $1 trillion of debt”.

And not a peep of opposition as it was being racked up.

You own it too Leo Wanker.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 28, 2023 3:45 pm

“Daily Mail.”

Alec Baldwin hit with new lawsuit: Three ‘Rust’ crew members claim they suffer from anxiety and PTSD and have ‘blast injuries’ after ‘deafening sound of the shot’ which killed Halyna Hutchins

Three crew members of Rust have filed a lawsuit against Alec Baldwin and the producers, claiming that they have experienced anxiety and PTSD symptoms
Incident occurred in a church building at the Bonanza Creek Ranch near Santa Fe, when Baldwin’s gun fired, killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins
Prosecutors have charged Baldwin with involuntary manslaughter for allegedly firing the weapon while it was pointed at Hutchins

calli
calli
February 28, 2023 3:46 pm

Gardens are racist too. And sexist, although many species are “bi”.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 28, 2023 3:47 pm

Mmmyes, have you tried cutting spending?

Nope – we put that idea to the leaners (given this is a ‘democracy’ and they outnumber the lifters) and it didnt fly….

Robert Sewell
February 28, 2023 3:47 pm

Anchor Wat:

First it was Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, now it’s Seth Efrica on the verge of collapse.
One day it will be recognised that demonising whites and handing over the running of countries to corrupt incompetents doesn’t work.

It’s not the skin colour, Anchor, it’s the Culture.
Some cultures are just not compatible with a technologically advanced society. You can build it up to its best performance with inputs from another culture but as soon as that culture is removed, the system collapses back to the level it can sustain itself at.
Pull all the Anglos out of the Subcontinent and it will revert to its previous society riven with castes and corruption. A similar fate awaits South Africa and if China continues to fail at rooting out its kleptocracy and cannot steal innovations from the West, then it has hit its peak as well.
And we shouldn’t look too damn smug either – if the lunatics of the WEF get their way, we’ll go backwards as well.

duncanm
duncanm
February 28, 2023 3:49 pm

“deafening sound of the shot”

So they weren’t expecting the blanks to make any noise ?

Vagabond
Vagabond
February 28, 2023 3:52 pm

There are 3 people in the world who deserve to die from arse cancer ;
the inventor of the cardboard bread tie
the inventor of the paper straw
the inventor of bamboo cutlery and plates

No, there are 4. Add the inventor of the hot air hand dryer

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
February 28, 2023 3:52 pm

It’s just as well there is so much mineral wealth in the West. I don’t think tourism is going to generate much income in the forseeable.

Good.
Most Sandgropers can happily exist without whiney tourists complaining that there aren’t enough twee little shops and divine artisanal bakeries on every second corner.

Go to Melbourne instead.

calli
calli
February 28, 2023 3:54 pm

Oh. I was looking forward to driving through WA on the Big Loop. Someone told me the inhabitants were friendly and welcoming.

Perhaps I could disguise the plates? 😀

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 28, 2023 3:55 pm

For those unfamiliar with the mad minute – here is a 6 second mag dump with the Enfield.

https://youtu.be/rFYZHLuxXZ8

or, for a real master , Miculek with a wheel gun

https://youtu.be/WzHG-ibZaKM

mem
mem
February 28, 2023 3:57 pm

There are 3 people in the world who deserve to die from arse cancer ;
the inventor of the cardboard bread tie
the inventor of the paper straw
the inventor of bamboo cutlery and plates

No, there are 4. Add the inventor of the hot air hand dryer

Not to quibble, but there are 5. Add the inventor of the leaf blower.

calli
calli
February 28, 2023 3:58 pm

That’s extraordinary, Duk. What age was that firearm? It looked WWI vintage.

Robert Sewell
February 28, 2023 4:00 pm

Dot:

Commonwealth debt is 897 bn AUD as of today.
NSW debt is 134 bn as of today.
That’s a lazy 1.031 trillion AUD of debt.
QLD is about 130 bn and WA debt for local government and state agencies is 49 bn.
That’s 1210 bn before WA bonds, SA, NT, TAS and ACT.
Likely 1400 bn or roughly 70% of GDP.

Dot, where are you getting your numbers from? I get mine from Australian Debt Clock, but I’m really suspicious of them – they smell like bullshit to me – especially the State debt figures.

dopey
dopey
February 28, 2023 4:00 pm

I see Melissa Davey is medical expert at the Guardian now. Previously legal expert on the Pell case.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 28, 2023 4:03 pm

One day it will be recognised that demonising whites and handing over the running of countries to corrupt incompetents doesn’t work.

The earlier discussed Stefan Molyneux explained why, despite their being demonstrably responsible for building and inventing everything that makes modern life what it is, white men are nevertheless increasingly demonised:

Its to make it easier to justify stealing their stuff – just as in war, where you overcome mans natural human aversion to killing his fellow man by painting your enemy as subhuman baby killing nun rapists, today they justify stealing all the white mans stuff by painting it as stolen, undeserved etc etc etc.

Robert Sewell
February 28, 2023 4:03 pm

Calli:

I see Scotts Transport has gone into receivership. Fuel? Drivers? Victoria?

It’s a big club and they aren’t in it.
In fact it looks like the two majors are squeezing all the competition out.
I shudder to think what the freight prices will be like when they corner the market and fix prices between themselves.

calli
calli
February 28, 2023 4:03 pm

Watching those marksmen reminded me. I found my little bank target practice “robber” folded up with some ancient tax returns (back to 1972) the other day.

The holes – I got three to the mid section, one to the shoulder and I missed his head by “that” much! 😀

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 28, 2023 4:04 pm

Perhaps I could disguise the plates?

calli, ensure rainbows cover your vehicle for full acceptance on your travels.

calli
calli
February 28, 2023 4:05 pm

I did wonder that, Winston. But they were a huge operator. I presume all that’s left is Fox and Toll.

cohenite
February 28, 2023 4:12 pm

dover0beachsays:
February 28, 2023 at 4:04 pm
Wall Street Silver
@WallStreetSilv
BREAKING: A country of 60 million is on the verge of “collapse” amid rolling blackouts ? ? ?

People are advised to have 72 hours of food and water. Rolling 12 hour blackouts leading to more chaos.

Turtle and rub and tug: hold our beers!

Chris
Chris
February 28, 2023 4:13 pm

Oh. I was looking forward to driving through WA on the Big Loop. Someone told me the inhabitants were friendly and welcoming.

Perhaps I could disguise the plates? ?

Come stay with us, Calli. Lovely spot and the inhabitants are at the very worst politely disinterested.
Serious!

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 28, 2023 4:13 pm

That’s extraordinary, Duk. What age was that firearm? It looked WWI vintage.

WW1 era MkIII Lee Enfield – but still in use past WW2.

In the early weeks of WW1, before trench warfare set in, the rate of fire from the British regulars was so fast the Boche thought they were facing machine guns.

duncanm
duncanm
February 28, 2023 4:14 pm

hoooleeey fooork.

Check out the Chinese mine collapse.
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1630115566257315842

Robert Sewell
February 28, 2023 4:16 pm

Flyingduk:

*ALWAYS*CHECK*THE*WORK*OF*EXPERTS*

Our Government of Technocracy has brought the Nation to the edge of disaster. Mainly because even a fool can get a University Degree.

Cassie of Sydney
February 28, 2023 4:20 pm

“Treasurer Jim Chalmers will double the tax rates paid by Australians with superannuation account balances worth more than $3 million, in a move he says is about budget sustainability and equity.

The journalist should have added “Australians with superannuation account balances worth more than $3 million, almost all of whom live in Teal Land.”

Many of the old biddies, both male and female, I saw campaigning for Princess Allegra are gonna be hit hard!

cohenite
February 28, 2023 4:21 pm

Another reason why fauci and every lying swampie should be infected with anal warts is they attacked Trump when he said the chunk virus came from the lab while they admitted in private that it had.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 28, 2023 4:22 pm

Someone told me the inhabitants were friendly and welcoming.

We are to sane and decent ppl. Not so much to loonies, we already have plenty.

duncanm
duncanm
February 28, 2023 4:26 pm

“Hydrogen is the future”

.. just one problem with it: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-28/banksmeadow-chemical-cooling-tower-fire/102034550

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 28, 2023 4:28 pm

I must report that she was unimpressed. She said that Perth was dead – no city ‘vibe’ and a lot of places closed or only open for restricted hours.

Perf inhabits a no persons land between big country town and regional city. Put on a copy of Triffids Born Sandy Devotional and enjoy the wait. It has doubled in size in my lifetime with almost no change in the way it works.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 28, 2023 4:29 pm

West Australia is a shit hole, full of sharks, spiders, snakes, heat, crap beer, awful wine, ugly women, endless roadworks, most people have giant purple patches roaming over their bodies, some sort of skin fungus i suspect, it only rains in winter, drivers are totally useless, yea stay away.

This has been an advertisement presented by the WA tourism commission.

Johnny Rotten
February 28, 2023 4:31 pm

“Hydrogen is the future”

Hydrogen has powered the Universe from the beginning. What do you think powers the Stars and our Sun? Not too sure about all of this Green Hydrogen rubbish though……………………….There is loads of coal, oil, gas and uranium on Planet Earth to get through first…………………

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 28, 2023 4:31 pm

This has been an advertisement presented by the WA tourism commission.

IT said something along the lines of “there’s no beer & our women are unclean, best to stay on the east coast”.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 28, 2023 4:33 pm

Cruel.
Very funny, but the right response to attempts to shame people for not cow-towing to freaks.

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Boambee John
Boambee John
February 28, 2023 4:35 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
February 28, 2023 at 3:39 pm
“Rifleman number one; the man in the RED shirt; One round.”

Spears and nulla nulla’s wouldn’t be much use..

Unlike in the days of the “Frontier Wars”, when the firearms available were generally muzzle loaded, with a practical range of 50 metres. After the first volley, the “Proud Aboriginal Warriors of the Resistance” had about 30 seconds to cover the 50 metres, and get to work with the spears and nulla nullas. Oddly, they seem not to have been very effective, even with the advantage of time.

speedbox
February 28, 2023 4:35 pm

calli says:
February 28, 2023 at 4:05 pm
I did wonder that, Winston. But they were a huge operator. I presume all that’s left is Fox and Toll.

I was looking at their website a bit earlier which proclaimed operating over 500 prime movers and 1000 trailers across every state with depots in each. I don’t know how old the company is, but it seems they have been around for ‘yonks’.

Johnny Rotten
February 28, 2023 4:36 pm

Our Government of Technocracy has brought the Nation to the edge of disaster. Mainly because even a fool can get a University Degree.

Good to hear that as I got my BA Degree from an Advanced College of Education………………lol

All those fools that went to University then, ha, ha, ha, ha,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Top stuff.

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 28, 2023 4:37 pm

There is loads of coal, oil, gas and uranium on Planet Earth to get through first…………………

As the slogan goes: “Earth First! We’ll strip mine the other planets later.”

Dot
Dot
February 28, 2023 4:37 pm

Winston

AOFM
NSW T Corp
WA Treasury
Queensland Treasury

Queensland was a “best guess”, AOFM, NSW and WA loans to agencies & local government were accurate.

I will try full QLD & WA figures later.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 28, 2023 4:38 pm

There are 3 people in the world who deserve to die from arse cancer ;
the inventor of the cardboard bread tie
the inventor of the paper straw
the inventor of bamboo cutlery and plates

No, there are 4. Add the inventor of the hot air hand dryer

Not to quibble, but there are 5. Add the inventor of the leaf blower.

The deepest hobs of Hell are not hot enough for those who put e-scooters on the streets of Brisbane.
For me, they should be spending eternity in an agonizing griddle with the Media and Policy Advisers – gasping on the smoke of the Renewables Entrepreneurs sizzling on the coals below.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 28, 2023 4:41 pm

Was barracking for Collingwood taken into account in sentencing ?

Zipster
February 28, 2023 4:41 pm

The Taliban have dealt a big blow to the Islamic State’s Khorasan Province terrorist outfit in Afghanistan. Taliban forces have killed the ISKP’s intel chief and urban attack planner, Qari Fateh, in Kabul. The operation was carried out by Taliban intelligence forces in Kabul on Sunday night. In a statement, Taliban spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid confirmed the killing of a top ISKP terrorist.

bespoke
bespoke
February 28, 2023 4:43 pm

A similar fate awaits South Africa

Sad to say most are resigned to the inevitable, Robert.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 28, 2023 4:45 pm

6. Whatever penny-pinching demon decided that every electrical appliance now needs dangling in-line power switches.

Chris
Chris
February 28, 2023 4:46 pm

Perf inhabits a no persons land between big country town and regional city. Put on a copy of Triffids Born Sandy Devotional and enjoy the wait. It has doubled in size in my lifetime with almost no change in the way it works.

Last ten years Perth City is witches hats, onion bags and hire fences. Tumbleweeds blow through, and the only worthwhile retail is Boffins Books and DJ’s.

All those pretty payroll and HR girls in the city lost their jobs to SAP and call centres in Maroochydore. Retail in the smaller, more fashionable boutique end collapsed. If you want to see people and energy in Perth, go to Karrinyup shopping centre – or any Bunnings. If you want industrial enterprise, Malaga and around Perth Airport seem to be jumping.

Johnny Rotten
February 28, 2023 4:47 pm

This has been an advertisement presented by the WA tourism commission.

IT said something along the lines of “there’s no beer & our women are unclean, best to stay on the east coast”.

I’m sure that ‘Perth Trader’ will be on here soon to put you all right.

calli
calli
February 28, 2023 4:48 pm

Thanks Duk. Amazing stuff.

Had a think about all the tales of derring-do in WWI and how the Enfield featured strongly in them. Then the Lithgow factory popped into my mind, an sure enough…

Short Magazine Lee Enfield, at least 640,000 produced, with variants including Mk III and Mk IV, from 1912 to 1945.

We made some of them here!

duncanm
duncanm
February 28, 2023 4:49 pm

For you music cats who like Pink Floyd.

The Main Squeeze has been doing some fantastic covers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R6StQfLNbw

Chris
Chris
February 28, 2023 4:55 pm

Unlike in the days of the “Frontier Wars”, when the firearms available were generally muzzle loaded, with a practical range of 50 metres. After the first volley, the “Proud Aboriginal Warriors of the Resistance” had about 30 seconds to cover the 50 metres, and get to work with the spears and nulla nullas. Oddly, they seem not to have been very effective, even with the advantage of time.

The Battle of Pinjarra shows how that generally worked out. Attacks on isolated individuals would result in a win for the home side, but the follow-on was a bitch. Horseback, bayonets and the British manual of arms were foundational advantages. Pioneer initiative and social organisation meant the rule of law was introduced early and effectively.

Johnny Rotten
February 28, 2023 4:58 pm

It’s not. They’re going to inflate it away and re issue new digital currency. Because Crisis.
Currently Federal and State debt equals $1.666,6??,??? Trillion dollars. The last 5 digits are changing too fast to tell.

I disagree. They will stuff it into the 3.2 Trillion Dollar Superannuation System and start again with zero Debt. The Australian States and Territories however can try their own Scams……………..lol

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
February 28, 2023 5:03 pm

West Australia is a shit hole, full of sharks, spiders, snakes, heat, crap beer, awful wine, ugly women, endless roadworks, most people have giant purple patches roaming over their bodies, some sort of skin fungus i suspect, it only rains in winter, drivers are totally useless, yea stay away.

– from the ‘mole.

I nominate him for the job of WA’s Minister for Racing, Gaming, Tourism and Good Times.
I am sure we can dig up a suitable young “research assistant” or two for the Ministerial offices.
(no digs about knickers or lack thereof will be entertained).

speedbox
February 28, 2023 5:05 pm

Dr Faustus says:
February 28, 2023 at 4:38 pm
The deepest hobs of Hell are not hot enough for those who put e-scooters on the streets of Brisbane.

That would be the Brisbane City Council. I don’t know the figure now, but the hire companies were paying the BCC $570 per year per scooter for the right to have their public rental e-scooters on Bris city streets.

At somewhere around 1000 public hire scooters the BCC won’t be in
a hurry to cat back.

Johnny Rotten
February 28, 2023 5:05 pm

Biden – Wokeness over Experience

From Armstrong Economics –

COMMENT: Marty; You said in passing that a Congressman asked you to “get back in the game” because they had nobody with your experience in Washington from the Cold War era. I know you laughed at that and said that was just 1991. Perhaps this clip explains why just maybe we need you more than ever. This “woke” Administration is taking us to World War III because as you have said, they are making you look like a diplomatic prophet. This is why. Wokeness over experience. This is what she actually says:

“The Cabinet is majority people of color for the first time in history. The Cabinet is majority female for the first time in history. A majority of White House senior staff identify is female and a record 7 assistants to the president are LGBTQ+.”

CH

REPLY: This is incredible. Maybe you are right. This is why the Neocons have been able to seize control. There is nobody with even common sense left in this Administration. This just confirms what I have been saying. This is historically the worst crop of world leaders I have ever seen in my 40+ years. When color and gender are more important than qualification, how can society survive? Obviously, being black and a female she ticks off two boxes and is more qualified than just a black male or a white female. Biden is proud of his statistics?

Everyone who has ever eaten a carrot has died. So, obviously, carrots must be lethal. Just Washington logic these days.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/biden-wokeness-over-experience/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

speedbox
February 28, 2023 5:06 pm

cut back

will
will
February 28, 2023 5:09 pm

so does the $3.2 billion include off budget items like debt with the”Clean Energy Futcha Fund” and the NBN?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 28, 2023 5:10 pm

Let people see the money being poured out and the places they are told the money is being sent. It should be pretty obvious that we have been going down the wrong path for a loooong time.

Yes. That’s what I have been saying too.

For light relief, I watched an animal show with lunch, pregnant animals giving birth in the wild. Fascinating. An elephant foetus on leaving the uterus can go no further towards birth until his umbilical cord stretches and snaps; he is then able to continue along the birth canal, without oxygen, to be expelled out by contractions. He has fifteen minutes of oxygen left to make it.

I wonder what the evolutionary advantage is of that, I’m thinking probably something to do with the fact that the baby is the size and weight of a fridge, so might rip out too roughly a still attached placenta when it drops if the cord was still attached.

Elephants have other females attending who help the already neonatal cordless elephant of two years gestation out by inserting their trunks and assisting. Having such attendants is not uncommon for many social species in the wild it seems. New film recording technology attached to the mother shows via remote ultrasound what goes on inside as the young are born in the wild. Amazing.

Better than plastic clips on the bread anyway.
And amazing that it is all like what happens to human females too. Took me back.

Robert Sewell
February 28, 2023 5:10 pm

Old Ozzie:

This is it. This is pure MAGA. President Trump is announcing the big one… “Economic Agenda 47“

Brilliant stuff.
Unfortunately, when the Chinese get locked out of the US market, they will dump product in the EU and other states. For ‘other states’ read Australia. If we lock them out of our economy, they will stop buying our coal and gas, iron ore and other raw materials.
Looking closely at the Australian debt situation, you will see the ‘crisis’ forming that will enable the government to demand our superannuation because ‘crisis’ and “Critical National Asset”.
It won’t matter how they do it, what will matter is the worthless scrip and promises that will replace it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 28, 2023 5:11 pm

The journalist should have added “Australians with superannuation account balances worth more than $3 million, almost all of whom live in Teal Land.”

Many of the old biddies, both male and female, I saw campaigning for Princess Allegra are gonna be hit hard!

Oh, well.
Every cloud …
A couple of hilarious outcomes. Firstly, they thought they were voting for Da Climate and maybe a Federal ICAC to fix up the far-right Tony Abbott types. What they’ve got is a crimp in their super funds.
Secondly, the intra-family tensions will be palpable. It is fairly clear super as an estate planning vehicle is under threat. Mommy may not care too much at the age of 75-80. But her Gen X kids and millenial grandkids will be none too pleased that Jimmy Jugears intends to go on a Ski* trip with their bequests.

SKI – “Spending the Kids Inheritance”.

bespoke
bespoke
February 28, 2023 5:11 pm

We Need to Talk About Mark Levin’s Interview With Ron DeSantis Last Night

For what that’s worth, a lot of formerly vociferous Trump supporters are sick of his bellyaching on social media day and night and his silly attacks on DeSantis, who is one of the few Republicans actually getting anything meaningful done.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 28, 2023 5:12 pm

Last ten years Perth City is witches hats, onion bags and hire fences. Tumbleweeds blow through, and the only worthwhile retail is Boffins Books and DJ’s.

Chris -there is one good noodle shop down an obscure arcade (not between Murray,Hay and St Geo Tce). I’ll leave it at that. Forget it during lunch hours.

Robert Sewell
February 28, 2023 5:14 pm

Frank:

There’s a 99% chance that ALL politicians are narcissists, even the good ones.

No.
A sizeable percentage would just be thieves.

That would be a very interesting Venn diagram, Frank.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 28, 2023 5:15 pm

Joffa Corfe.
Could be the only member of the Collingwood cheer squad to never do time.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 28, 2023 5:16 pm

The problem is Yagan Square is too visible not out of the way like Docklands. Best to keep them out of sight.

Chris
Chris
February 28, 2023 5:17 pm

The Taliban have dealt a big blow to the Islamic State’s Khorasan Province terrorist outfit in Afghanistan. Taliban forces have killed the ISKP’s intel chief and urban attack planner, Qari Fateh, in Kabul. The operation was carried out by Taliban intelligence forces in Kabul on Sunday night. In a statement, Taliban spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid confirmed the killing of a top ISKP terrorist.

I have worked in Khorasan Province, and I swear I was in Iran not Afghanistan.
Hmmm. Nope, definitely not a province of Afghanistan.
Afghanistan provinces map

Frank
Frank
February 28, 2023 5:17 pm

Just had a filthy ranga with a goatee on the doorstep panhandling for breast cancer. Thankfully my tits are OK so he left empty handed.

calli
calli
February 28, 2023 5:17 pm

But her Gen X kids and millenial grandkids will be none too pleased that Jimmy Jugears intends to go on a Ski* trip with their bequests.

You are assuming the gilded yoofs are smart enough to work it out.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 28, 2023 5:18 pm

Could be the only member of the Collingwood cheer squad to never do time.

What will he have to talk about?

Robert Sewell
February 28, 2023 5:21 pm

Old Ozzie:

“President Biden remains a healthy, vigorous 80-year-old male,

“Vigorous” is a term usually used by corrupt Middle East and South American dictators to hint they still perform well in the bedroom.
Mucho Machismo.
Mind bleach, please, DB. Lots of it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 28, 2023 5:22 pm

OK.
So they claim to have moved the tax rate from 15% to 30% for balances over $3 meg.
What if you are in pension phase where the tax rate is currently zero?
Does that move to 15%?
30%?
Or remain at zero?

Robert Sewell
February 28, 2023 5:24 pm

ZK2A:

The Indigenous voice “will have a lot of power” and will not passively wait to be consulted, Uluru Dialogue co-chair Megan Davis says.
“We feel confident from all of the Australians that we are talking to that people support it.”

Perhaps the Megan should start talking to the other 24 million Australians who recognise this crock of shit as what it is – “A Crock of Shit”.

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 28, 2023 5:26 pm

You are assuming the gilded yoofs are smart enough to work it out.

Oh, some of those forty-somethings drowning in mortgage payments, school fees and lease payments on the Sporty Beemer will definitely notice.
And I do know of at least one resident of a Teal seat who is constantly fielding questions from his ex (via the kids in their 30’s) about “whether they will be looked after”.

rickw
rickw
February 28, 2023 5:28 pm

All checked in for flight to Singapore. Terminal in its usual state of disarray, to many people and not enough air conditioning.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 28, 2023 5:28 pm

But her Gen X kids and millenial grandkids will be none too pleased that Jimmy Jugears intends to go on a Ski* trip with their bequests.

SKI – “Spending the Kids Inheritance”.

Estate planning just got a lot harder. Personally I know of tens of millions needing to be moved one or two generations. Most X peers are already established with kids off or near off their hands. One family business already sold off (Chinese a few years ago), another being simplified and quasi wound up. Huge sums to be moved.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 28, 2023 5:29 pm

It looks like the tax rate change only applies to the accumulation phase.

duncanm
duncanm
February 28, 2023 5:29 pm

But her Gen X kids and millenial grandkids will be none too pleased that Jimmy Jugears intends to go on a Ski* trip with their bequests.

worse that that – none of the millennial fools supporting this realise that the $3M threshold is not being indexed.

Any moderately-incomed 20-something will hit $3M at retirement no problem.

Shit – a whole bunch of gen X’ers will see their super pass that threshold in ten years with some reasonable growth and ongoing contributions.

John H.
John H.
February 28, 2023 5:32 pm

flyingduksays:
February 28, 2023 at 3:43 pm
the theory being that Belarus will then offload its own spare stocks to Russia. As Belarus is a non-belligerent, and there is no UN sanctions regime against it, this is quite smart.

Given the limited combat power of Belarus, I suspect they are more valuable playing the ‘fleet in being’ role (like the German navy of WW1), rather than rolling the dice and joining the main game, only to be eliminated.

Yep. Poland has issued tenders for the creation of a fence between it and Belarus. It has also moved military assets close to the border. Lithuania has closed a rail link. Belarus is already feeling the heat. Increasingly isolated from the rest of Europe, I doubt it will want to risk further problems with its neighbours.

Chris
Chris
February 28, 2023 5:35 pm

SKI – “Spending the Kids Inheritance”.

Estate planning just got a lot harder. Personally I know of tens of millions needing to be moved one or two generations. Most X peers are already established with kids off or near off their hands. One family business already sold off (Chinese a few years ago), another being simplified and quasi wound up. Huge sums to be moved.

A 25-year-old with a family and an entrepreneurial mind can make fifty grand work like a draft horse over the next ten years; his parents or grandparents need half a mill or more for a RAD on top of the opera subscription, and live no better than an asset free pensioner.

Johnny Rotten
February 28, 2023 5:36 pm

worse that that – none of the millennial fools supporting this realise that the $3M threshold is not being indexed.

Any moderately-incomed 20-something will hit $3M at retirement no problem.

Shit – a whole bunch of gen X’ers will see their super pass that threshold in ten years with some reasonable growth and ongoing contributions.

Which is why you should take your superannuation benefit out of the System as soon as you can tax free. Then invest the money as you see fit. The biggest risk with Superannuation has always been the Legislative Risk and NOT the Investment Risk. Federal Guv’ments can always change the rules normally to their advantage.

calli
calli
February 28, 2023 5:39 pm

“whether they will be looked after”.

Vultures.

rickw
rickw
February 28, 2023 5:41 pm

Pell gets a prison term on the flimsiest evidence, but he gets a suspended sentence when pleading guilty?

Justice no longer exists in Australia.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 28, 2023 5:41 pm

SKI – “Spending the Kids Inheritance”.

Well, I’m feeling a bit jaded what with one thing and another and the Labor government to cap it all.
Plus this oppressive February weather. Looks like time for a spot of SKIing, just to annoy Albo.

So we’ve pencilled in a month in Europe in September, followed by a cruise we’ve just booked for October around the Adriatic, the Aegean and the Mediterranean seas ending in Rome, where last time I had a run in with a stalled lift in a pricey boutique hotel. Memories, memories. I went there first with my first husband and baby son We ate excellent sausages somewhere near the station and stayed in an old unrenovated Palazzo with bedbugs.

In the meantime, Hairy will get heavy with the people holding our 2020 money for Sri Lanka.

I don’t know how I’ll break the news to Attapuss. 😉

Johnny Rotten
February 28, 2023 5:42 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
February 28, 2023 at 5:22 pm
OK.
So they claim to have moved the tax rate from 15% to 30% for balances over $3 meg.
What if you are in pension phase where the tax rate is currently zero?
Does that move to 15%?
30%?
Or remain at zero?

As usual Mrs Stencho Pantyhose you are crapping on about something that has yet to happen. Wait for the May Budget and then make some comments. T.W.A.T.

bons
bons
February 28, 2023 5:45 pm

So fat Sharan is still around and still mouthing offensive inanities.
She is a repulsive creature by any measure but you have to give her credit. She single handedly destroyed Australian democracy through the Union Super Funds.
Unelected, she has had a greater impact upon the nation than any elected official.
And, she and all of the other gross aged Labor hags are still slurping at the trough.
I quiver with outrage.

m0nty
m0nty
February 28, 2023 5:46 pm

So many idle rich with butt hurt today, it warms the cockles it does.

Robert Sewell
February 28, 2023 5:46 pm

Doc Faustus:

Bread bag closures – once plastic and effective, then cardboard and guaranteeing to spill 8 slices of WundaWite into the shopping trolley – have undergone a silent makeover.

…also a viable repair kit for a thong that has had the plug pull through the sole until you can get another pair.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 28, 2023 5:47 pm

Some cultures are just not compatible with a technologically advanced society.

After Black Majority Rule, the senior management of ESCOM – the South African electricity commission – were eased out of their positions, in the name of “Black empowerment.” When the power cuts and “brownouts” began, it was suggested they would like to return to their previus positions.

To a man, they refused.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 28, 2023 5:47 pm

The women from WA are not all ugly I can asure you. Maybe you are attracted to ugly women and thats all you can see. The lookers are not in your line of vision. Ugly blokes only see ugly women coz the know they haven’t got a chance with anything better.

m0nty
m0nty
February 28, 2023 5:47 pm

So we’ve pencilled in a month in Europe in September, followed by a cruise we’ve just booked for October around the Adriatic, the Aegean and the Mediterranean seas ending in Rome

O, the noble suffering of the average Liberal voter.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 28, 2023 5:48 pm

Oh, some of those forty-somethings drowning in mortgage payments, school fees and lease payments on the Sporty Beemer will definitely notice.

That’s my daughter you are talking about there.
Fortunately, she is a girl with an excellent head on her shoulders.
And a husband who is an earner not a rotter.

rickw
rickw
February 28, 2023 5:48 pm

For those unfamiliar with the mad minute – here is a 6 second mag dump with the Enfield.

Duk, you just made all Australia’s police commissioners piss their pants!

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 28, 2023 5:51 pm

Yep. Poland has issued tenders for the creation of a fence between it and Belarus.

Idiots, everyone knows borders don’t work… just ask any leftist

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 28, 2023 5:57 pm

Scotts of Mt Gambier is trouble. Yikes their used to be a dime a dozen through SA, Vic and southern NSW when I was young.

That said I too have noticed an explosion of Linfox trucks up this part of Queensland we never used to see much of.

That mine landslide was insane earlier. I knew someone who did some work at Coppabella mine, the spoil heap closest to the highway on the southern side of the main pit is watched like a hawk apparently, apparently poorly placed and designed. Also sits over a seam they would love to mine but cannot from what I hear too.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 28, 2023 5:59 pm

Unlike in the days of the “Frontier Wars”, when the firearms available were generally muzzle loaded, with a practical range of 50 metres

The latest “story my Nanna told me” has a party of police, and settlers, in the 1840’s, armed with such weapons, killing EIGHT HUNDRED indigenous, in the South West of Western Australia, “and the river ran red with blood.”

Truth telling…

Johnny Rotten
February 28, 2023 5:59 pm

Yep. Poland has issued tenders for the creation of a fence between it and Belarus. It has also moved military assets close to the border. Lithuania has closed a rail link. Belarus is already feeling the heat. Increasingly isolated from the rest of Europe, I doubt it will want to risk further problems with its neighbours.

LOL. Belarus won’t give a hoot as it has Russia to support it. And a fence won’t do that much. In WW2 the French had the defensive Maginot Line and the Germans went around it through Belgium. Very easy for a tank to go over a fence.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 28, 2023 6:00 pm

O, the noble suffering of the average Liberal voter.

Jealous, much?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 28, 2023 6:00 pm

O, the noble suffering of the average Liberal voter.

O, the envy of every useless lefty.

calli
calli
February 28, 2023 6:01 pm

You might get your turn m0nty. Just work hard, pay your taxes and don’t get divorced.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 28, 2023 6:01 pm

Joffa fessed up to being a sick pervert, thereby saving the Court’s time.

Has Collingwood stood by the old ButtPirate?

KD, your thoughts?

cohenite
February 28, 2023 6:01 pm

So many idle rich with butt hurt today, it warms the cockles it does.

You don’t have cockles dickless, you fat little commie.

rosie
rosie
February 28, 2023 6:02 pm

Scott’s was reportedly bought by private equity firm Anchorage Capital Partners in June 2020 for about $75 million.

Maybe the new owners paid too much/ had too much debt.
It’s on the market again.

rosie
rosie
February 28, 2023 6:02 pm

Scott’s was reportedly bought by private equity firm Anchorage Capital Partners in June 2020 for about $75 million.

Maybe the new owners paid too much/ had too much debt.
It’s on the market again.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 28, 2023 6:02 pm

O, the noble suffering of the average Liberal voter.

We don’t vote Liberal or Labor.

Yes, we’re spending it M0nty, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about that.
Better than letting the Liars make one of their tax grabs for our hard earned.
We’re getting ahead of the curve, there are going to be a lot more like us downstream.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 28, 2023 6:03 pm

Poland has issued tenders for the creation of a fence between it and Belarus.

Completed it last year.

Belarus’s army is a fleet in being to keep Russians out, not to keep Poles or Ukrainians out. Also it is to ensure the big guy stays in power.
Despots gotta despot.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 28, 2023 6:06 pm

Isn’t mUnty upper Middle Class? Or just more fantasy?

calli
calli
February 28, 2023 6:09 pm

Could we have some “fairness” from our politicians and their superannuation entitlements? I see long faces from Luigi and Leo, but none of it affects them.

Truth be told, it won’t affect me either – I’m not wealthy enough.

On the other hand, if politicians and public servants and their ilk were caught up in it…kaboom. But they won’t be. Like the super-rich, they have alternative means of squirrelling away vast sums.

It’s all crocodile tears.

m0nty
m0nty
February 28, 2023 6:15 pm

You might get your turn m0nty. Just work hard, pay your taxes and don’t get divorced.

Hope so! But I won’t be squealing about paying tax.

Robert Sewell
February 28, 2023 6:16 pm

Lizzie:

I’d try the army again, the business population of Alice Springs would welcome an intervention building hostels that could provide a temporary housing solution. Once housing is available then other changes can follow.

Lizzie, you keep on getting the basics wrong. The Army isn’t there to dig shitholes for people too lazy to dig their own.
The aboriginals can dig theirs or go without, and face the disease it causes themselves.
The housing IS available, it’s just that they keep destroying it because they feel contempt for us.
It’s like the episode at Laverton? when a swimming pool was put in at bloody great expense – the first week, some little bastard of a kid shit in it. He was seen to do it, and no punishment given. But the entire pool was drained and refilled.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 28, 2023 6:17 pm

It’s being painted as Class Envy, but I’m thinkin’ it could be a lot more sinister than that.

We see that the proposal is to prevent access to Super for urgent medical treatment.

Now, we can assume that there’s going to be a new strain of COVID, let’s call it the Joffa U/14 Strain.
Which will require a new round of Vaccinations.
Except that, unlike the yukky, awful Scott Morrison, good ol’ Albo will make it Compulsory.

Now, the last round of Vaxxing, say 85% received the dummy vax and 15% [RIP] received the Real McCoy.

So, 85% will be cool with the new Vaxx, which will be 100% the Real McCoy this time.
So, there’ll be enough deaths and Applications for urgent funds to sink not just the Super Funds, but the entire Economy under the rules as they exist now.

Chris
Chris
February 28, 2023 6:18 pm

FMD – I searched provinces of Afghanistan and now I get advertising in Arabic for Afghan TV on top of Instapundit!

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 28, 2023 6:18 pm

Still a few still around on defined benefits funds – not too many I expect. I s’pose I would still be on one if I was still with my graduate employer (perish the thought).

calli
calli
February 28, 2023 6:20 pm

Well, m0nty, it all depends on how hard you work, how much you risk, and how much they take.

It is very, very hard to work tremendously long hours for no real benefit. Most of my modest nest-egg came from real estate. Not alone in this.

Be very careful in what you say you will and won’t be doing. It’s amazing how fast principles collapse when the blow torch is applied.

rosie
rosie
February 28, 2023 6:21 pm

“This is expected to apply to around 80,000 people, and they will continue to benefit from more generous tax breaks on earnings from the $3 million below the threshold.”

What will happen in practice?
Accountants will make sure the investments that did well are in the under 3 million basket and those that did badly are in the Chambers bin?

Chris
Chris
February 28, 2023 6:21 pm

On the other hand, the Army have core skills that ARE applicable.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 28, 2023 6:21 pm

Hope so! But I won’t be squealing about paying tax.

That’s how you end up asset poor. If you hadn’t failed Econs 101 you might make the connection.

Chris
Chris
February 28, 2023 6:22 pm

By which I mean, turning young arseholes into disciplined, useful arseholes.

rickw
rickw
February 28, 2023 6:24 pm

But I won’t be squealing about paying tax.

Dirty stinking communist.

m0nty
m0nty
February 28, 2023 6:24 pm

I have one investment property in super and one outside being built this year. Regular slumlord, I am. Not 100% sure it will be the best economic conditions to be highly leveraged over the next little while, but it’s the right time in our lives.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 28, 2023 6:25 pm

FMD – I searched provinces of Afghanistan and now I get advertising in Arabic for Afghan TV on top of Instapundit!

A couple of searches for G string bikinis should fix it. So I’m told.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 28, 2023 6:25 pm

m0ntysays:
February 28, 2023 at 5:46 pm
So many idle rich with butt hurt today, it warms the cockles it does.

It’s OK, those who aren’t Real voters are likely to be Labor’s new constituents among the wealthy, after they abandoned the working and tradie classes.

How is your own super going? By the time you, as a member of the upper-middle class, reach retiring age, $3 million will be barely enough to keep you off the OAP, and out of the clutches of the Housing Commission ….

Vicki
Vicki
February 28, 2023 6:25 pm

So many idle rich with butt hurt today, it warms the cockles it does.

It doesn’t “become” anyone to rejoice in another’s problems.

We eschewed superannuation (though we did temporarily take advantage of Costellos’s largesse a long time ago to minimise the capital gain on a property sale) in favour of simply accruing property and paying whatever tax we had to pay on its income. You have to weigh this stuff up. When we were in a servicing business years ago we did employ savvy tax accountants to minimise what we could. After those heady days – and with the weariness of years – we have simplified our life, even if it means paying more than our friends.

Today’s announcements of a doubling of the taxation on super balances will cause a good deal of angst amongst friends who have paid lots for advice, and assumed that their arrangements were both legal and a propos. I sympathise with them, although, as we all know, governments can change all rules at an instant. Personally, I am probably more resentful of the Morrison government for its lack of spine and total disregard for the principles of liberal thought during the pandemic.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 28, 2023 6:25 pm

You’re, um, big on discipline are you, Chris?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 28, 2023 6:26 pm

It’s like the episode at Laverton? when a swimming pool was put in at bloody great expense – the first week, some little bastard of a kid shit in it

Cite you the episode in South Australia, where a swimming pool was built at great expense, and some little bastard of a kid – he was bored – drove a Toyota into the pool…

rosie
rosie
February 28, 2023 6:26 pm

Monty is here scoffing about a tax change that effects those in the accumulation phase, ie working, like him, when a big percentage of cats are in the taking it out for free stage?
Well see if Elbow gets his 2 bill pa.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 28, 2023 6:28 pm

Kids have been shitting in Public Swimming Pools since forever.

Enter the water at you’re own risk.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 28, 2023 6:30 pm

Ed, you’re shitting in this pool every day.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 28, 2023 6:30 pm

Rosie:
Your thoughts on Joffa?

Tom
Tom
February 28, 2023 6:30 pm

Good.
Most Sandgropers can happily exist without whiney tourists complaining that there aren’t enough twee little shops and divine artisanal bakeries on every second corner.

Pedro, I used to think like that — for about three minutes.

Hold your nose and think of the booming local tourism businesses.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 28, 2023 6:31 pm

Teal voters, FFS. The ones who aren’t Real voters usually end up in the Liars or Slime piles during counting.

m0nty
m0nty
February 28, 2023 6:31 pm

Today’s announcements of a doubling of the taxation on super balances will cause a good deal of angst amongst friends who have paid lots for advice, and assumed that their arrangements were both legal and a propos.

They are still legal and apropos. As for their angst… boo hoo, cry into your moneybag.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 28, 2023 6:32 pm

So, you’re leaving for health reasons, Angry Watt?

Vicki
Vicki
February 28, 2023 6:32 pm

Now, the last round of Vaxxing, say 85% received the dummy vax and 15% [RIP] received the Real McCoy.

Don’t know what you mean by “the Real M Coy”. My understanding is that there were specific “batches” that caused a greater than normal number of adverse reactions. Whether this was because of contaminants, or simply failure to maintain the advised temperature et al – who knows? There is also a belief that “special” government officials and others, received a saline solution only. Not sure about that one.

But the specific claim that 85% received a “dummy tax” is not only unsubstantiated, but doesn’t seem to have a reason.

Johnny Rotten
February 28, 2023 6:33 pm

Isn’t mUnty upper Middle Class? Or just more fantasy?

Has MontyPox Virus had his free MPox jab while this World Pride BS is going on?

Chris
Chris
February 28, 2023 6:33 pm

You’re, um, big on discipline are you, Chris?

Big.
Yes; very, very big.
They wrote a novel about me. Maybe you have read it? Fifty shades of geh.
(On the internet no-one knows you are an overweight, fixed Maltese-Shizu X who is not geh enough to get a job at the ABC)

rosie
rosie
February 28, 2023 6:33 pm

They claim it will apply to those in defined benefits schemes too, presumably they can use some sort of formula based on notional values, that’s going to fun.

m0nty
m0nty
February 28, 2023 6:33 pm

Monty is here scoffing about a tax change that effects those in the accumulation phase, ie working, like him, when a big percentage of cats are in the taking it out for free stage?

The median Cat would be about 55 I reckon, so right in the target area for this change.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 28, 2023 6:35 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 28, 2023 at 6:30 pm
Rosie:
Your thoughts on Joffa?

Cdl Pell got 404 days for something he could not have done, someone else gets zero days for something he admitted to doing. Perhaps a public flogging might be appropriate?

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