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In that case the board know what to do.
The best kept secret of the cold war (by both sides) was the Red Army’s lack of capability.
The source book is not to hand & I cannot recall either the name or the author, even though he has recounted the below on television (available somewhere on YouTube)
One of the Brixmis NCOs reported on a covertly observed Soviet Army exercise in which they bridged & crossed a river.
The ‘engineer’ unit practiced for weeks, the same choreography, until they could cross the river in 30 minutes.
His report stated that it had taken them weeks to get from bumbling about, dropping stuff, running into each other like Laurel & Hardy, & that crossing the river took “Three weeks & thirty minutes” and if they had to cross at a different point, the time frame would begin all over again, as they’d have to start the whole process again at genesis chapter 1, verse 1, to rote learn by trial & error the route to the new job site (Soviet army was almost totally unable to read a map) where to park their trucks, how to leave barracks so they’d arrive on time, how to unload at a different location, & so on.
His report was trimmed to: “Soviet Army readiness is such that they’re able to ford rivers in 30 minutes”
The only subsequent comment he was allowed to make on his report was to confirm that Soviet troops “had constructed a bridge in 30 minutes.”
The best kept secret of the cold war (by both sides) was the Red Army’s lack of capability.
I can see why the US MIC would keep that a secret.
I always thought Western Europe’s best protection was that the Soviet nomenkatura knew that most of their goodies came from the West and they wouldn’t want Germany’s economy to run like the Soviet one.
The again, we stood near the East German border in 1988 and read the landmines etc warnings. A chilling experience.
The Red Army took on the Wehrmacht and won. They can’t have been that incompetent.
They had Hitler on their side.
In Music Wars, that is the equivalent of nerve gas.
Found it. Needed a step-ladder to get up to this one.
Ghost Force by Ken Conor, Weidenfeld & Nicholson, London 1998, page 440.
Teaching, at least, is a profession that never seems to demand diversity and equality. 99*% women and desperate to keep it that way.
* may be slightly exaggerated and not backed by science.
the Red Army’s lack of capability.
It dates back to around 1985, but Andrew Cockburn’s ‘The Threat’ is still worth reading. He makes the point that the West’s weaponsmiths found it far more palatable, not to mention lucrative, to pitch their goods to materiel procurement offices as if the Bosch were still the enemy, with all the imagined advances in weapons tech that Teutonic touch implies.
Instead, the monkey see/monkey do Russians were slavish copycats, even to the extent of seeing the superdud F-111 and saying ‘We better have one of those too.”
Behold the Su-24.
“The Red Army took on the Wehrmacht and won. They can’t have been that incompetent.”
Correct, but Russian warfare tactics have resulted in a history of Pyrrhic victories. They suck armies further and further into Russia, they’ve done it with the Swedes, Poles, French and Germans.
Trump brought up Miranda Devine during his CPAC speech.
She is setting the example for bringing up the Hiden criminal family’s influence peddling.
Devine is becoming one of the leading opinion writers in the US.
“Devine is becoming one of the leading opinion writers in the US.”
At least her she’s moved on from Turdbull. She was one of Turdbull’s biggest fans. Miranda, like her late father, is a good journalist.
She did, lol?
We all make errors from time to time, but I have to reluctantly concur with Liz’s statement from yesterday that I’ve never made a mistake.
Oh! This is an awful situation.
I am joint executor for my sister’s estate. Her accountant/agent is executor for the farm, and I am for her personal property and finances.
She was an avid collector of porcelain, stamps and especially coins. I know nothing about stamps and so took the albums to an expert.
I used to tease her that her great greats may succeed in recovering half of the paid value for her coins. Of course, that doesn’t apply to the gold coins which have appreciated many times in value.
I audited her spreadsheets against invoices, and as expected with her, all was correct. Then, simply because I wanted to see them, I decided to do a stocktake.
Four gold coins have been removed from their presentation boxes and four others are missing.
My inclination is to say nothing to avoid a potential irreparable family conflict, but it is a lot of money.
I have no idea what to do.
Same applies wrt the roll the space shuttle used to perform not long after launch.
From memory it was necessary because the position of the launch site and trajectories etc etc.
The Russians did the same with their shuttle and later on when one of the NASA engineers asked one of the Russian engineers why they did it (the roll) he was told “because you did”.
Daily Mail.
So they’re going to go down the road of “systemic racism” are they? That didn’t do the London Metropolitan Police any good. Knife crime just exploded when they ceased their “stop and search” policy.
Stop Aboriginal breeding to cut jail rate, says senior NT cop
By KRISTIN SHORTEN
The director of the Aboriginal Justice Unit says a senior Northern Territory police officer told her the “only hope you mob have is to stop breeding for the next 10 to 15 years” while visiting a remote community.
In her 85-page statement – tendered on Monday at the coronial inquest into Kumanjayi Walker’s death – Leanne Liddle alleged that a senior sergeant at an outback station made the racist remark to her, in front of a junior colleague, during community consultation about the NT Aboriginal Justice Agreement.
“When I asked him what did he believe was the answer to reducing incarceration of Aboriginal people, he said ‘The only hope you mob have is to stop breeding for the next 10 to 15 years’,” she wrote.
“The other officer, when questioned about hearing this statement, denied he had heard it but it was impossible he did not. I didn’t want this person working in an Aboriginal community again, but to my surprise (they were) transferred to another Aboriginal community with a promotion.”
Ms Liddle, who manages a unit within the NT Department of the Attorney-General, did not name the community or the police officer allegedly involved but said it was just one of “many examples” of systemic racism she had witnessed in the NT Police Force.
During her cross-examination on Monday, Ms Liddle said systemic racism was evident in how non-Indigenous health staff and police officers had treated their Aboriginal colleagues and the community before and after Constable Zach Rolfe fatally shot Walker during an arrest at Yuendumu in November 2019.
She told Gerald Mullins, a lawyer for one of the Yuendumu families, that racism was the reason NT police did not tell Senior Aboriginal Community Police Officer Derek Williams that his nephew had died. “Derek Williams was the only police officer who was not told about the passing of Kumanjayi Walker during the evening of November 9, 2019,” Mr Mullins said.
“Now there’s been different reasons given for that but broadly speaking, he wasn’t told because he was a community member.”
Ms Liddle said it was another example of “distinct racism or overt racism, systemic racism”.
Mr Mullins said police told “several untruths” to the community the night Walker was killed, including when they told Eddie Robertson, grandfather of Walker’s girlfriend, that the teenager was still receiving medical treatment hours after his death.
“That type of behaviour … aligns characteristics to Aboriginal people that we can’t be trusted with confidential information,” Ms Liddle said. “That’s another example of racism.”
She said police fears that the community might “storm” the police station if they discovered Walker’s death were based on racist stereotypes.
“When you assign characteristics to a certain group of people, in this case, Aboriginal people, and from what you’ve just told me, the assumptions, falsely, are that this group of people are violent and aggressive, and yet there’s no evidence behind that to prove that,” she said, “that is another example of racism.”
Mr Mullins also told the court that when health staff met to discuss their safety concerns and consider evacuating the community in the days before Walker’s death, they did not invite Aboriginal colleagues to the meeting.
The inquest, before Coroner Elisabeth Armitage, continues on Tuesday.
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My commiserations, I am sole executor for one at the moment. Thankless job that allows you a front row seat to the very best of human nature.
My inclination is to say nothing to avoid a potential irreparable family conflict, but it is a lot of money.
I have no idea what to do.
Perhaps a quiet “if you have the coins keep them, but the money value will come from your disbursement”?
Failing that a “there are some items missing, i will have to inform the police for insurance reasons… unless they are returned by the end of the week”
That way you get to give an ‘out’ to people and also offload the problem onto a 3rd party.
might work.
Let the family know that there are some items missing and that they are valuable. You suspect a burglary. Ask them if they think the police should be involved.
That will flush out the thief, for thieving it is.
Then you can work out how to divvy up the spoils fairly.
People who steal from their family don’t love their family. They love money.
I heard he said the rioters were “reverent” of the Capitol building, LOL. Lots of shots of good ole boys milling about in between rampages taking selfies, as if the violence didn’t happen.
The irreparable family conflict was initiated by the person who pinched those coins, not you. Shout it from the rooftops, and point fingers if necessary and if you have enough suspicion to do so.
Ask the hard questions of people, and do it in front of others if you must. You wouldn’t be doing your job if you didn’t.
Make it extremely uncomfortable for whichever tea leaf helped themselves to expensive stuff that wasn’t theirs.
You said the coins have been well catalogued.
I would report them stolen.
Afterwards I would send a family email telling them what you’ve done.
The plod wont do anything.
But it would make the guilty party (if they are in fact a family member) have to keep the coins on the down-low for at least a few years out of fear of being pinged.
And maybe some restless nights too.
Been there, done that. Also gives you a front row seat to the very worst of human nature.
Knuckles, been there, done that, got the scars.
And…I got the rotten scrolled tea service of great value and miserable hours of cleaning. The power tools would have been more practical.
Monty the malmo Shaman didnt watch the clip just above its brain dead comment.
Oh. That looked as though I’d pinched the tea service. No such luck. Would have needed a hand trolley to sneak the wretched thing out.
Well they were indicted for parading Monty.
You parade for things you are reverent about.
Apparently there’s at least one guy still being held without trial, after over two years.
For parading. Think about that.
Snap calli and mole.
Alternatively, put the coins back and blame that family member you’ve hated for years. It’s a perfect opportunity.
If you were of so a mind.
Cats will obviously be worried about the progress of the Terrible Low Intensity Heat Ripple currently engulfing SE Queensland. It’s a rather pleasant 30 degrees just now in Brisbane, but I’ve dug out my service revolver and promised Mrs Faustus that I won’t let her suffer in tomorrow’s forecast 32.
She seems comforted.
A couple of things are for sure.
If you cut a direct relative out of your estate, it means nothing.
They will get a piece.
Especially if they are viewed as financially disadvantaged.
And you run the risk of the estate having to pick up everyone’s legals.
My inclination is to say nothing to avoid a potential irreparable family conflict, but it is a lot of money.
I have no idea what to do.
You’re describing a potential crime; work on that basis.
Re the bequest.
I would definitely put it out there that:-
(a) there is a very, very detailed inventory; and
(b) items don’t match inventory, and you are thinking about reporting them to Police.
Maybe, just before you report them stolen, ask if anyone is aware that she may have sold some stuff prior to her death, to prevent any embarrassment with Plod. If anyone comes forward with a vague recollection of a sale, you will probably have discovered your Light Fingers.
Sounds like a case for Jessica Fletcher.
By “direct” I assume you mean spouse and children?
I know of someone who has been the partner of a pretty wealthy guy for nearly twenty years.
He has two useless but avaricious kids by a previous marriage. One of the kids is a bit spectrum-ish but is capable of work. He doesn’t work, and the other sibling and the ex are constantly pointing out his dismal employment prospects.
I suspect they are setting up for a lifetime support claim on the estate.
(The old guy has included the children in his will, but I think they want “more please, mister”).
m0nty=fa
milling about in between rampages
Mostly peaceful, and not even fiery, then?
Certainly not one for Malcolm “I didn’t suspect anything” Trumble.
I strongly suspect that our dear Britnee may have done a foolish thing in the long run, making the move to a “flash” property amidst a “lavish “ life with a partner who boasts that he “doesn’t miss the 9 to 5”. Hmmmmm……..
The advice I had was that, anyone wishing to challenge a will, in Western Australia at least, would have to prove that they were financially dependent on the maker of that will.
By “direct” I assume you mean spouse and children?
Spouse, former spouse, child, child(ren) of the new spouse.
Two cases I know of.
First one, father dies (mother died years ago).
2 daughters stayed on the family farm all their lives, son moves to Sydney.
Father splits farm 40/40/20.
Court says, no it’s a third each.
Second one.
Father dies.
Estranged son from first marriage is provided a decent amount but less than the children (all adult) from second marriage.
Challenges.
Court gives estranged son more than the kids from the other marriage because judge says that they will get a second bite of the cherry when the mother (and biggest beneficiary) dies.
Vic Mackey would have this coin business sorted out in ten minutes.
Vic Mackey would have this coin business sorted out in ten minutes.
Boom !
+1000
You can’t prove very much and you cannot be sure things were given away or not.
Softly softly, that’s the way to go.
Given the laws for the property settlement, when a de facto couple splits, indeed.
These cases are in NSW but I thought it was a division of the Federal Court that decided these things if they ever made it that far.
Ie, judges acting like little emperors.
My first hope was that one of the myriad grandies may have picked up a couple of the pretty things, but as in all things, my sister’s sense of security was first class.
I might advertise for a replacement executor, I don’t want to do this anymore.
The Shield was one of the greatest shows of all time.
I don’t want to do this anymore.
There will be many learnings from this.
I might advertise for a replacement executor
There’s a guy called Dennis Denuto who looks after these things.
You should look him up.
Pretty dumb, I’d have thought.
Her relationship with the Coalition side of politics is well and truly in the bin.
She’s now busy providing ammunition to embarrass the Labor Government that provided largesse for her largesse – so, too toxic for any relationship there.
Her future, once the boyfriend with the punchable face has consumed her bounty, presumably hangs on being able to somehow monetize ‘stunning and brave’. Not sure she has the shelf life.
Pull the family and other who have access together. Tell everyone what has happened (missing coins). Put the guilt trip on and ask they be returned, no questions asked.
Thanks feels. Will do.
It is a race against time as the basset hound face takes up full residence.
Bons, you are duty bound as Executor to raise the issue of the missing coins with the family and seek clarification about them otherwise the shadow could fall on you. She may have hidden them
Tell everyone what has happened (missing coins)
Tell them the coins are special gay coins that will turn the thief gay.
Vic Mackey’s most legendary line (delivered with a rapidly transforming facial expression)
“Our money train cash is marked?!”
Wouldn’t that depend on where they had them stashed.
Who had control of these doubloons? The priority here is to protect your own arse. You’re the executor, accountable for the assets. If the coins were held in security beyond your control and you’ve just done an accounting you may have some leeway; but if they’ve been lying around with open access I would make haste to lay out the facts before fingers are pointed at you.
Park your expectations about how long it will take and it is basically alright if you don’t mind red tape and bureaucracy. Best avoided if possible.
Bruce, the charge is “Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building”. Of course, you are twisting words out of all meaning, because you have no real points.
Estate litigation is great. Surprising how much ends up as Estate of …v Estate of … . You can’t take it with you.
m0nty=fa completes his move to overt fascism. “Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing”, once staples of leftard politics, are now haram. And just like that, 70 years of the civil rights movement are consigned to the dustbin of history.
Estate litigation gives family law matters a run for their money.
“if you don’t mind red tape and bureaucracy”
And not to forget callous indifference from family members (I am not related), connivance (shamelessly) with respect to altering the will and large dollops of self serving psychodrama. One might be forgiven for setting people on fire, if it weren’t for a saintly nature.
Picketing inside a government building is a bit different to picketing outside it. Most of the numerous gaol sentences for J6 rioters involved violence and threats as well, or obstruction of official proceedings.
The most interesting law case I was involved in was a husband and wife with mutual wills. He was charged (but not convicted) of murdering her and then committed suicide while the cops were going over the garden with ground penetrating radar. We ended up in some court with the cat home v the dog home with costs to come out of the estate. I resigned before we got a decision and still don’t know what happened. Most law is not this interesting.
How awful. Demonstrating? Monty, that’s ghastly. How dare anyone demonstrate? It’s a terrible crime! Picketing? Why I’d have to ask a CFMEU guy about how heinous that is. I can’t recall any CFMEU guys being shoved in the slammer for two years without trial for picketing.
Frank, commiserations. As cohenite says proceed carefully and get advice/help if you’re unsure how to proceed. Unsurprisingly there is a lot of case law on this stuff.
Need I remind you, Bruce, that the whole purpose of the J6 riot was to interrupt and shut down the peaceful transfer of power to the new government, complete with domestic terrorists who joined in with the express desire to murder Pelosi et al?
It’s hardly equivalent to a union picket. Of course you know that, but you dance about like a juggalo anyway.
m0ntysays:
March 7, 2023 at 4:19 pm
Picketing inside a government building is a bit different to picketing outside it. Most of the numerous gaol sentences for J6 rioters involved violence and threats as well, or obstruction of official proceedings.
Then you would have applauded had the violent Labor and ACTU demonstrators who broke into Parliament House in 1996, breaking down the doors, attacking police and Parliamentary attendants, and obstructing official proceedings had been jailed? Or was that “different”?
Bruce, the charge is “Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building”. Of course, you are twisting words out of all meaning, because you have no real points.
BS you dickless little bastard. The charges were insurrection of a kind worse than 9.11, the Civil War and Dan Ackroyd’s attempt to destroy SNL combined. It was all spelt out on CNN, NBC etc.
The facts are:
Trump told them protest peacefully
Pelosi refused Trump’s offer of the National Guard
FBI operatives and BLM activists were inciting the crowd
Capital police let the protestors in
No police were killed only protestors in highly dubious ways
The FBI’s report in August 21 found no evidence Trump or anyone else had control or gave organisation to the crowd.
The crowd was entirely peaceful and downright comical
The prisoners have been denied basic rights and subject to loathsome punishments
BLM protestors by comparison, who destroyed cities for months on end have been awarded compensation for police brutality because the police did not wear masks when arresting them
Now FOAD; symbolically of course.
Need I remind you, Bruce, that the whole purpose of the J6 riot was to interrupt and shut down the peaceful transfer of power to the new government, complete with domestic terrorists who joined in with the express desire to murder Pelosi et al?
You’re a lying little turd. Now get back to looking after the milko’s kiddies.
If it helps I blew up relations with the UK arm of the family with some correspondence written in a personal capacity and never heard back from a US based sibling. Oh well.
PS. Did not some of the 1996 leftard insurgents make direct threats against the PM? Also “different”?
Are you now dancing “about like a juggalo anyway”?
Jarndyce vs. Jarndyce
And finally…
And so it ends.
The Arkroyd thing sounds pretty serious. What did he do?
Yes.
“I have (non specific) concerns about burglary and theft, but don’t want to look like a dick if I go to the cops and we later find she has merely gifted them to someone.”
cohenite
The crowd was entirely peaceful and downright comical
IIRC, Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus (probably unconstitutionally) during the Civil War. Was it restored post War? Is it currently in effect in the US?
They also thieved from the till in the shop.
Common criminals.
Says the twerking man.
With family matters the best way to deal with sleeping dogs is to tiptoe around them.
The Arkroyd thing sounds pretty serious. What did he do?
Impersonated Chevy Chase.
Judging by the cruel photos of Monique Ryan hamming it up in Parliament in today’s Australian[p 2], they’re going after her.
Apart from Chaney and Spender, they’re all crowdfunding to pay staffers, including Sharkie, so they’re either tightwads [Ryan] or they can’t really afford to represent wealthy Seats.
Is a juggalo a blue grass gigolo? Bib and brace with a straw hat and a squint?
Hahahaha Monty you’re funny. The transfer of power was not peaceful, it was illegal, because the Dems stole the election.
While I admire a successfully performed heist I do not admire the heisters persecuting innocent people in ways the Soviets didn’t even do. Maybe, Monty, you should ask yourself the question.
Fatboy
I recall that around 2014 or so, public sector union members completely took over the state house in one of the mid-West states where the governor’s last name was Walker. I recall the reason being that he was reducing benefits for the worthless bastards. Don’t walk away without answering this question.
Was that an insurrection?
IIRC, Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus (probably unconstitutionally) during the Civil War. Was it restored post War? Is it currently in effect in the US?
Definitely. Yes. Yes.
Wow! That’s pretty bad. Was it an insurrection because Fatboy may want to comment on this?
While I admire a successfully performed heist I do not admire the heisters persecuting innocent people in ways the Soviets didn’t even do.
Are you kidding?
Genrikh Yagoda [look him up], NKVD chief of the 1930s, was responsible for the deaths of an estimated 10 million people.
You don’t do your relatives any favours by appointing them as executors of your will. Appoint a solicitor or the Public Trustee. You won’t care if they gouge your estate with enormous fees.
It is a tedious and onerous duty, never wins any friends and you are likely to witness the unbelievable money grubbing behaviour of some of your nearest and dearest relatives.
My one and only experience of being an executor ended up with me wanting to shoot about half of my aunties, uncles and cousins stone dead.
Vultures is not too harsh a word.
Ok Ed, I acknowledge Monty’s Soviet friends were heartless bastards. The Dems have a way to go before they unlock their Stalin achievement caret. Not for want of trying, I have to say.
Actually, kind of!
mUnty posturing again about off-shore politics and law?
another day and another empty and pointless gesture
truth is, he wouldn’t have the faintest idea of who was charged or convicted with what.
reads a newspaper and reckons he got special insight
has to come to an internet forum full of imagined enemies to crow about the join-the-dots he finally completed in his head
yes mUnty … we know … it’s a unicorn
tell us all again some of your deeply reasoned but risk-free, political stand-point wanker-isms
rip off yr Che Guevara T-shirt and show us yr tits and tatts
wave a placard
knit a pussy hat
have a cry for all the kiddies that don’t have a two mums and a cross-dressing uncle
then you pick yourself up and get right back in the trenches to punch some nazis
you can always tell yourself that really,
it isn’t wanking
it’s helping
mUnty, the quintessential post-modern man where act-ivism is pretty much 99% act
complete with domestic terrorists
The first meticulously planned military coup without weapons.
In one of the heaviest armed populations on earth.
You walrus larping lardball.
Not to mention the most powerful military in the world, that wasn’t called in to quell this huge insurrection.
he cant die … as long as he keeps wanking
Perhaps The Swamp will steal 2024 for Trump the way they stole 2016 for him?
Mid you, that would be a Steal to eclipse all other Steals, since Trump has flatlined amongst Indy voters, the people who got him over the line against HR Clinton.
Cranes now
3rd parties often a good idea, although I’m not sure I would use the Public Trustee. We used to use a nominee of the president of the WA Law Society from time to time as a fallback so you ended up with someone suitable for the complexity of the estate.
“Need I remind you, Bruce, that the whole purpose of the J6 riot was to interrupt and shut down the peaceful transfer of power to the new government, complete with domestic terrorists who joined in with the express desire to murder Pelosi et al?”
Perhaps we need to remind Monty that the whole purpose of the “mostly peaceful” and very violent summer of 2020 was to interrupt and destroy the Trump presidency, and it was undertaken with various domestic terrorists, such as the Democrat party’s paramilitary goons, BLM and Antifa, who joined in to loot and set fire to businesses, to murder innocent Americans (some of them black and Latino), to set US cities aflame, to burn churches and attack synagogues, to vandalise property and all the rest of the “mostly peaceful” stuff that the left likes to engage in.
And since our resident fascist is so concerned about “the express desire to murder Pelosi”, I’ve noted his curious silence about the “expressed desire to murder” a certain Supreme Court justice. Last year Nicholas Roske had an “expressed desire to kill” a Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Roske travelled all the way from California, armed with guns, knives and other weapons, to the home of Brett Kavanaugh, where he was arrested. Roske has openly admitted to his “expressed desire to kill Kavanaugh. He’s been arrested and charged.
I suspect Monty thinks Roske’s actions were a hoot, because the truth is that Monty doesn’t mind a wee bit of violence against his ideological enemies…punch a Nazi and all of that!
Oh and January 6 was a riot, an ugly riot at that, but the summer of 2020 was an insurrection.
It is a tedious and onerous duty, never wins any friends and you are likely to witness the unbelievable money grubbing behaviour of some of your nearest and dearest relatives.
During the windup of my brothers estate it was quite a shock to find out the wishes expressed in his super allocation & insurance were effectively moot.
In order to ensure the kids got as much as possible I had to play nice with his wife who had contributed to his suicide.
I had to pretend i didnt know she was shacking up with a new stud while my brother was off working in the mines, and her LARPing as the greiving widow.
Mum and dad both upset because she was to get the vast bulk ($600,000) of the monies and the kids get about $120,000 each.
But to have gone any other path would have resulted in litigation, and probably the same division of a much smaller pot of money.
Sometimes you have to ignore a lot of crap to try and get a better outcome, either that or turn it over to the public trustee.
This should be a capital crime. Bill Murray too!
Mole – sounds like a pretty badly drawn will if you’re having to make those decisions as executor. I s’pose it depends on circumstances.
Pale stale wench does the equivalent of a pale stale male appearing on TV with his fly down for an entire segment.
All mentioning of this is of course “mysoggeeknee and abuse” rather than mockery.
At least she didnt need a comb…
ABC accuses News Corp and Daily Mail of amplifying misogynist Twitter abuse of Lisa Millar
Trolling of News Breakfast host over her outfit reported by the media outlets with screenshots and abusive tweets
Any guesses how nuanced the reaction would be if, Bolt ran a segment with his y-fronts exposed?
the new age of uniformity
Almost completed the estate of my late son, and agree with Pedro above. Permanently altered relationships among the living. Don’t use the public trustee though, they are all (in every state I believe) that ghastly combination of corrupt and incompetent.
Bons in your case give it to a solicitor, I hope you find someone decent. Tell the whole family why you have no choice, that’s why they’ll get just threepence from the estate.
Hard to overestimate how awful the political class of the West is.
H B Bearsays:
March 7, 2023 at 5:22 pm
Worse- no will, just the beneficiaries listed on the super/insurance down as only the kids.
I did seek advice if that would hold up or not, but it was a “maybe/not likely” and only after taking it to court.
So please, if you dont have a will be aware (in WA at least) assigning beneficiaries via super or most insurance has a very high likelihood of being useless.
Not just WA.
Yep. Even the most basic estate benefits from a will – otherwise your stuck with the Administration Act or it’s equivalent which is often unsatisfactory.
Perhaps The Swamp will steal 2024 for Trump the way they stole 2016 for him?
I’ll put that down to piss taking. If you’re serious your mental decline is terminal and you are in fact dead.
I have just completed my will. The first question my solicitor asked was “have you ever looked after anyone for any length of time, including allowing them to stay with you without them paying board/rent. This included friends, aquaintances etc, not just family. She mentioned that even if you only let them stay for a few days while they were between houses, looked after their kids for a weekend, even looked after their cat or dog, they could lay a claim to your estate.
The next thing she said to me was, no matter what, DO NOT use The Public Trustee.
That’s why it’s called the Big Lie. Once you commit to it, you can justify anything up to and including a full fascist coup.
Despite the click-baitey title, this interview between Neil Mitchell and Mick Hughes is an interesting insight of his work in the VicPol homicide department and how the effects of the work build up on a person.
The only thing to grate from my perspective was his imploring request to be sympathetic to the police as they go about their duties. While some (including him, based on the interview) are genuinely trying to do their job diligently and honestly, the request sounds a little thin in the light of how we the public have been treated at various times in the recent past with no acknowledgment or reticence forthcoming from those in a position to make good.
Still, a good listen. Duration of 1:03 and listenable to me at double speed (you may need to download it to speed it up).
https://www.3aw.com.au/former-homicide-squad-boss-mick-hughes-reveals-his-own-brush-with-the-law/
Jarndyce vs Jarndyce was supposedly based on Jennens Vs Jennens – Jennens had made a will, but not signed it. The case lasted over a hundred years, until the whole estate – worth over two hundred million pounds in today’s money – had been spent, in legal fees.
Colonel Douglas MacGregor & Sources
COMMENT #1: I have been watching Colonel Douglas MacGregor (ret), on alt news sites. He is a former tank commander in the Gulf war and has worked extensively with NATO, before retiring. I love his direct commentary – so in a nutshell he says the following:
1. Ukraine has lost up to 250k troops and they are in dire straits. They will lose the war badly.
2. The US military is in dire straits too and if push, comes to shove, could only provide 50k troops within weeks. They are down on ammunition (all gone to Ukraine) and the recruitment targets for all 4 branches are lower than what the DoD is telling us.
3. The European military is not ready at all and would be ineffective.
4. Which leads to him saying that the USA/NATO will not enter the war, because sane heads in the military will not allow it. I hope he is right, but he does not rule out false flags or Biden’s ineptitude.
You should watch him, he’s great, a man with genuine battle experience and knows the political machinations of DC, yet strongly anti war.
NC
COMMENT #2: Colonel Douglas MacGregor has often come out and confirmed what you have said weeks or months before. It looks like he has similar sources. He went to West Point. Did they also teach your War Model as did the Citadel? A lot of generals graduated from the Citadel.
Keep up the great work
HB
REPLY: Perhaps we both have similar contacts. As far as West Point, I do not know if they ever taught our models. What I do know, is that there is a serious risk that Uktaine loses and all the fake news that keeps putting out the propaganda has not considered what happens if Ukraine loses.”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/colonel-douglas-macgregor-sources/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
m0ntysays:
March 7, 2023 at 6:13 pm
Hahahaha Monty you’re funny. The transfer of power was not peaceful, it was illegal, because the Dems stole the election.
That’s why it’s called the Big Lie. Once you commit to it, you can justify anything up to and including a full fascist coup.
LOL. Suuuuure m0nty=fa. Never any lies from the DemonRats? Wussia, Wussia, Wussia? Once the DemonRats committed to that, they justified everything up to and including a police state coup.
You idiot. Look in a mirror.
So let me get this straight.
The officer who died and was given a ling in state at the capitol in the USA was in actual fact alive when he was supposed to have been killed?
BREAKING: Tucker Carlson has obtained footage of Brian Sicknick walking around the Capitol healthy after the media claimed he had been killed by Trump supporters pic.twitter.com/Vd5sEu6oqS
Just think about the level of corrupt stageshow the leaders of the country engaged in just to “get trump”.
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, left, and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, center, walk past the remains of U.S. Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick as he lies in honor in the Rotunda of the Capitol on Wednesday.
Brian Sicknick, the slain U.S. Capitol Police officer who was given the rare distinction of lying in honor in the Capitol Rotunda, received a final tribute from lawmakers Wednesday. President Biden and first lady Jill Biden joined Sicknick’s family members and colleagues from the Capitol Police in a period of visitation on Tuesday night.
Sicknick, 42, died from injuries he sustained fending off members of the mob that breached the Capitol complex on Jan. 6.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer delivered remarks at a ceremony Wednesday morning, praising him as a “patriot” and someone who possessed “profound inner strength.”
“It is my official and sad honor to welcome Officer Brian Sicknick and many who loved, respected and were protected by him to the United States Capitol Rotunda for a recognition of his life,” Pelosi said.
The California Democrat said that Congress was united in grief, gratitude and appreciation of Sicknick’s service and that his sacrifice would not be forgotten.
“Each day, when members enter the Capitol, this temple of democracy, we will remember his sacrifice and … others that day who fought so hard to protect the Capitol and the Congress.”
Be sure to click through to that full “commemoration” story, and realize everyone participating in it was deliberately and knowingly lying over the dead body of a chap.
BREAKING: Tucker Carlson has obtained footage of Brian Sicknick walking around the Capitol healthy after the media claimed he had been killed by Trump supporters
[TAKES GLASSES OFF. URGE TO JOHN CLEESE/KING TOMMEN BARATHEON OUT OF A WINDOW INCREASES].
Such reluctance tends to occur in irony-free zones. 🙂
Like 99% of millenials, Britnee doesn’t judge political policy by whether it’s leftwing or rightwing, but by whether it’s FASHIONABLE.
More than anything else, lefties like Britanee (and Monty) fear being unfashionable — a fate worse than death for dumb people.
The “super dud” F-111 turned out to be a good long range low level strike aircraft. Don’t know anything about the Su-24.
The Russian Shuttle, Buran, differed quite a bit from the US shuttle. The strap on boosters were liquid fueled which makes for a smoother ride, potential re-use by adding small wings to them and flying back to launch site, the main engines were on the Energia booster, not the Buran itself and there was some talk that Energia might eventually be re-useable. It could also carry up to 10 people IIRC whereas Shuttle was limited to 7. Also could have jet engines fitted for ferrying and testing.
The double delta wing was dictated by hypersonic lift over drag to get enough cross range to be able to land back at launch site after one orbit. The Russians may have had that requirement also. Turned out it was a dumb idea (USAF insisted on the capability) and never used. Original shuttle designs had small straight wings. Worse hypersonic L/D but much better when subsonic which would have made it easier to land.
Especially as the bloke was so instrumental and supportive in helping her to gain all of these goodies.
They take that into account in any split. She could end up with only half of it.
And then some judge may say it all has to be returned anyway. What’s left of it B4 bankruptcy.
Hill End fire is considerably to the NW of us, but at 6pm, with sun now setting, there is an eerie red glow of reflected light (through smoke) on our house and buildings.
Hope residents and stock are safe in Tambaroora as they have been issued with “too late to leave”from RFS.
No, her cooking him a steak matters more than him actually bloody earning it.
What about those loonies who stormed the Supreme Court over Kavannah?
Surely they too …. but no of course not, they’re Democrats.
We had a great will case. A mad German woman (at least I assuming she was mad) topped herself in the Netherlands. But not before putting $200k on term deposit with the Commonwealth Bank. Some joker was trying to say a Christmas card taped to a fridge somewhere was the will. The file was about a foot thick, every second page in German and had been passed around like Julia Gillard at an ALP National Conference. Again I’m not sure how it ended up (or even who we were acting for). This is much closer to day to day law.
Hill End fire is considerably to the NW of us, but at 6pm, with sun now setting, there is an eerie red glow of reflected light (through smoke) on our house and buildings.
Hope residents and stock are safe in Tambaroora as they have been issued with “too late to leave”from RFS.
I love that part of the state Vicki- I hope they are ok too.
Oh lordy, the projection is strong in this one.
We know about the big lie Monty.
And full fascist coups.
You may’ve forgotten who fascists are. Did you look at the link I gave you?
Oh and January 6 was a riot, an ugly riot at that, but the summer of 2020 was an insurrection.
Cassie I would hardly call walking around the Capitol Building and gawking at shit as a riot.
Things got real when Ashli Babbett and Roslyn Boyland were murdered in cold blood by the jacks, who incidentally let these protesters in under direction of Ray Epps.
I didn’t say it had to be fair, Dot. It’s just what they do. Beware of short-term de factos.
As a young white male though he can expect to have his contribution downgraded, hers enlarged.
That’s how they do ‘fairness’ in the Family Court.
No. The official line was that he collapsed and died afterwards. This footage does not contradict that at all.
Carlson is flooding the zone with nonsense.
I’ve been looking at the Matt Hancock material and I’ve come to the conclusion that the release of the WhatsApp material is almost certainly legitimate. And what it tells us is that the politicians in charge of the covid response in the UK were 1) stupid 2) ignorant of almost everything relevant to the decisions they made and hence utterly incompetent, 3) really enjoyed exercising power over the masses, just because they could.
This is almost certainly the same mindset that created a similarly inept response to the so called climate crisis, and Australia’s net zero.
We are at the mercy of a foul combination of power hunger and stupidity. It’s like being in a bus being driven by a gorilla with no real grasp of the connection between what it does with the steering wheel and where the bus goes, but the gorilla really likes playing with it. It’s hardly practical to dispossess the gorilla which is having fun, but we’re approaching a cliff. The doors are locked so we can’t get out.
So sit back and enjoy the ride. It won’t last much longer.
Italics screw up
One thing we would agree upon is that monty loves himself some dead Republicans.
Jarndyce vs Jarndyce was supposedly based on Jennens Vs Jennens – Jennens had made a will, but not signed it. The case lasted over a hundred years, until the whole estate – worth over two hundred million pounds in today’s money – had been spent, in legal fees.
This sounds a bit like ‘Bleak House’ by Charles Dickens.
DrBeauGansays:
March 7, 2023 at 6:40 pm
I’ve been looking at the Matt Hancock material and I’ve come to the conclusion that the release of the WhatsApp material is almost certainly legitimate. And what it tells us is that the politicians in charge of the covid response in the UK were 1) stupid 2) ignorant of almost everything relevant to the decisions they made and hence utterly incompetent, 3) really enjoyed exercising power over the masses, just because they could.
Sounds just like what happened in Australia to me.
Summer of 2020 was definitely an insurrection, but it was a peaceful one.
One of those times when CNN told us not to believe our lying eyes.
If CNN had stood in front of a backdrop of ‘the burning of Atlanta’ in ‘Gone With the Wind’ it could not have been any more peaceful.
Ok so an aboriginal ambassador is a guy called Mohamed.
Gravitas. Lisa Millar gets Prince Harry’s attention the night before his wedding at Windsor Castle in 2018. On par with a Beatles fan in the early days when there wasn’t a dry seat left in the house.
So sit back and enjoy the ride. It won’t last much longer.
Agreed. I tell people that it like “watching Rome burn.”
It is the one comment that seems to make them pause and think.
Let’s make a list…add robodebt, Afghanistan & Iraq.
God help us if we get into something really serious…like a war that threatens our existence.
Yes that’s the official state sponsored line monty you stupid arsecrack.
The evidence proves otherwise.
But you don’t care. What you care about is state sponsored terrorism in the form of Antifa, Drag Queen Story Hour, the reaming of super funds (don’t worry, you’re in the crosshairs), Yoel Roth’s thesis about sex with kids, Republican teenagers being run down by crazed khunts.
Annnd the murder of babies in utero or shortly after delivery with your support for Roe v Wade.
Annnd laughing at men who go overseas and serve their country.
No. The official line was that he collapsed and died afterwards.
So not killed by protesters then?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Sicknick#:~:text=The%20District%20of%20Columbia%20chief,a%20role%20in%20his%20condition.%22
Brian Sicknick, a United States Capitol Police (USCP) officer, died on January 7, 2021, after having two strokes one day after he responded to an attack on the U.S. Capitol. The District of Columbia chief medical examiner found that Sicknick had died from stroke, classifying his death as natural and additionally commented that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.
Lying liars lied.
Then set up a whole “lying in state” for the chap they were lying about.
Hope residents and stock are safe in Tambaroora as they have been issued with “too late to leave”from RFS.
I love that part of the state Vicki- I hope they are ok too.
Me too. Camped many times around Hill End and down on the Macquarie. Hope people, stock, property and fences are okay.
Thanks, Monty, for confirming you are unable to separate fact from fiction.
If you can’t do reality, you should never have been allowed to call yourself a journalist, even if it was as a Mickey Mouse writer on an IT trade rag.
You are a sad case.
I purchased some more LED battery powered lights today. Useful to have handy, methinks.
For the shorter term anyway. Need to keep a supply of batteries for them too.
I did consider a small rechargeable battery powered transistor radio with a solar panel on it.
Thought Hairy would laugh at me though. We could always use the car radio in a blackout.
But what if we had no petrol? All sorts of scenarios.
Should I go back and spend $39 on what in simpler times we used to call a ‘trannie’?
Pretty good price for a solar radio I thought.
Brian Sicknick got sick, suddenly, eh?
Look, I know, Conspiracy Theory, but,
#1. Is there any chance that Sicknick died from the Vax?
#2. Is it possible that Sicknick was murdered by the FBI for some reason and the latest ” revelation” from Tucker is Limited Hangout/ Obfuscation?
Because one thing we do know, Tucker’s pappy was a Spook and the apple never falls far from the tree.
It also had bluetooth so you could play your phone music through it.
Ok so an aboriginal ambassador is a guy called Mohamed.
So what is this new devilry?
Justin Mohamed I will take a stab is a darling of the ABC and hasn’t worked a day in his life.
Annnd laughing at men who go overseas and serve their country.
No Aussie in Ukraine at the moment is serving his Country.
Hope Hill End lodge is ok too. Beaut place.
Thanks for all of the very useful comments. The two substantial trunks containing the coins were opened in front of a niece and a staff member. Fortunate, given that I would never have thought of the need for witnesses.
The logic gap in the whole business is that you can’t spend gold coins. You can only sell them either through a dealer or a coin auction, probably not Ebay, or Gumtree.
I need to check, but I imagine no dealer would touch expensive coins without proof of ownership. I might be niave – I’ll check.
They may have been given away, but it is unlikely and my sister would certainly have recorded the fact, she was that kind of person, but she was always generous, so who knows?
Anyway, too hard for me- off to the solicitor.
Brittany ‘Ms Knickerless’ Higgins shows off her lavish new life after big payout as she moves into a flash property close to the beach: Unemployed fiancé boasts he ‘doesn’t miss the 9 to 5’
No. The official line was that he collapsed and died afterwards. This footage does not contradict that at all.
The official line; you have less capacity for irony than head prefect. Sicknick’s body was held in state despite his family wanting to have a private funeral. Sicknick’s death had nothing to do with a few ratbags wandering around the capital. Everything about Jan 6 was done by the swamp including using Sicknick’s corpse; and because it was done so ineptly they had to hide the video evidence. Now go and put the milko’s kiddies to bed.
Two strokes in a day?
The Donut Fryer Strikes Back.
Enjoy it while you can. You suspect it might be a while between drinks for Brittany. Nice to see she’s out the loony bin.
Dotsays:
March 7, 2023 at 5:02 pm
Is a juggalo a blue grass gigolo? Bib and brace with a straw hat and a squint?
Actually, kind of!
The only Juggalos I know of are the fans of a band called Insane Clown posse. The fans are known as juggalos and wear black and white clown face makeup.
Brittany Higgins has moved into a lavish Gold Coast home after receiving a large, confidential settlement payout from the Federal government stemming from her claims she was raped at Parliament House.
Why would anyone want to pay tax to the Homo Idiocracy that runs Australia?
Perplexed is right. Juggalos, like Deadheads but with much more PCP.
The incoming ambassador has worked for decades in roles spanning the Aboriginal community, government and corporate sectors.
Another one like Pearson. Decades in the aboriginal “industry”, no positive achievements for the worst-off aborigines, but lots of prestige and munni for him.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
March 7, 2023 at 6:34 pm
What about those loonies who stormed the Supreme Court over Kavannah?
Surely they too …. but no of course not, they’re Democrats.
They also stormed a Senate hearing room. Insurrection? Attempting to interfere with the selection of a Supreme Court judge?
So, part of the problem.
m0ntysays:
March 7, 2023 at 6:40 pm
So let me get this straight.
The officer who died and was given a ling in state at the capitol in the USA was in actual fact alive when he was supposed to have been killed?
No. The official line was that he collapsed and died afterwards. This footage does not contradict that at all.
No m0nty=fa, the initial “official line” was that he was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher. It was “adjusted” when the footage of him still walking around with no obvious injuries appeared. Another example of the “Big Lie”?
m0nty=fa
PS, Roslyn Boyland quite literally was beaten to death by Capitol Police, on camera. Unlike the lies told about Sicknick
Oh my Lordy Lord…. the despicable class has been banging on for a couple of years about police officers killed by the mob, bashed to death with fire extinguishers, etc. Nothing can bend them.
From Presiden Biden himself have come speech after speech informing that “several” police officers were killed by the mob & died in the “riot”
Along comes Tucker Carlson, magician.
Tucker Carlson has got them all fiercely agreeing that no police officer was bashed to death & in fact zero police officers were killed on January 6th.
This is where the narrative should have been by the … oh…. 7th of January.
Has his performance and that of the programs he participated in or later administered ever been benchmarked or otherwise independently assessed?
Here’s all about Justin Mohammed, on any site you are to visit:
Even though he’s worked in Victoria for 30 years
That’s it, he’s now an Ambassador.
Okay.
Juggalos do tend to be red neck misfits.
Listen to “What is a Juggalo?” for more information.
Having sustained flesh wounds, brave Sir m0nty=fa scarpered from the filed from 1631 to 1813. At that time he returned, and is sustaining further flesh wounds.
At what time tonight will brave Sir m0nty=fa scarper again, not to return?
“Mr Mohamed is a Gooreng Gooreng man from Bundaberg, Queensland and brings a strong connection to community.”
I thought he was a Meccan man.
field, but he should be filed away in that warehouse with the Ark.
Has his performance and that of the programs he participated in or later administered ever been benchmarked or otherwise independently assessed?
Course not.
He’s a Placeholder.
Even the Invisible Man has more of an online presence.
Alleged Antifa Member Arrested on Domestic Terror Charges Related to Violent Attack on Atlanta “Cop City” Is Attorney At Southern Poverty Law Center Where Soros-Tied MI SOS Jocelyn Benson Was Prominent Board Member
New York Post
@nypost
Jan. 6 footage shows Capitol cops escorting QAnon Shaman to Senate floor
No Aussie in Ukraine at the moment is serving his Country.
Pay attention cockface.
monty has shown his disdain to flyingduk and Mater for their service overseas.
My comment had nothing to do with Ukraine.
Be silent.
Gonzalo Lira
@GonzaloLira1968
This isn’t some random talking head — this is Tobias Ellwood, head of the British parliament’s defence committee.
They want a war with Russia — badly. And China too, while they’re at it.
I thought he was a Meccan man.
How stupid is that?
There were plenty of Muslims from India who had children with Aboriginal women.
While I’ve never heard of Mohammed as an Aboriginal surname, I have heard of it as an Aboriginal Christian name.
Not possible to download a picture of this Gooreng Gooreng man from Bundaberg, here’s a site with a picture.
Looks like an Arab.
Not described as a Proud Gooreng Gooreng man anywhere.
That’s a bit odd …
Anyway, the guy looks like Chris Sarra, who appears to be a bit of an arsehole.
I thought he was a Meccan man.
Very good Cassie.
I wonder what his thoughts were on that Kaye chap and his joke about Jesus
Gonzalo Lira
@GonzaloLira1968
It’s not that this kid is ignorant because he didn’t go to university — it’s that he learned this suicidal foolishness IN university.
That’s not all Matt Hancock texted.
Gonzalo Lira
@GonzaloLira1968
An Ivy League degree does NOT prove you are well-educated—it proves you’re highly intelligent, conscientious and compliant. A good high-end worker.
But if admission standards are removed, then an Ivy degree loses its meaning. It no longer fulfills its role as a social signifier.
“There were plenty of Muslims from India who had children with Aboriginal women.
While I’ve never heard of Mohammed as an Aboriginal surname, I have heard of it as an Aboriginal Christian name.”
How stupid is this?
That’s not all Matt Hancock texted.
WTF indeed.
Read the first response.
Kate Shemirani
@KateShemirani
·
Midazolam.
You gave it together with morphine.
Even when the patient was unconscious,
Why, why?
They trusted you.
“That’s not all Matt Hancock texted.”
That had to be some sort of joke between them?
Mohammed, yeah he was aboriginal and Noel Pearson claims direct decadency to the big Moh . Pearson’s middle name is Fukah
No joke.
They’re running the Covid Scare again.
Last time was just a trial run.
Because you idiots turfed Scotty over FA, there’ll be no Jobkeeper or drawing into your Super when you lose your miserable job this time.
That had to be some sort of joke between them?
Brendan O’Neill piece lays it out. No joking in this case of phuckwhittery
Watching a show on Stanflix called “Three Girls”.
Subject matter … Pakistani grooming gangs in the North of England in 2005 – 2011.
Some problems with the way it was dealt with, but it doesn’t avoid the main issues.
That is, who was doing it and how widespread it was.
Eddles
I always vote LDP where I can, so don’t blame me. In any event, you really can’t mean that the pissed off conservatives here were responsible for outing the Libs. Surely not as the numbers don’t tally.
2000 Mules.
The Twitter files.
The January 6 tapes.
The Hancock texts.
In a just society, that would be end of hundreds of government officials. Not now though. I have zero confidence that one single person will be held accountable for any of it.
Where pollimuppetts always this rotten? Maybe it’s easier to scrutinize them (if you want to) than it used to be. Biden filth was always rotten of course- the ‘car crash’, the senator for MBNA etc.
Because you idiots turfed Scotty over FA, there’ll be no Jobkeeper or drawing into your Super when you lose your miserable job this time.
The Labor shill has shown his true colours.
But Ed will be fine. He’s a well versed student of history, medicine, human behaviour (re Brittany), Aboriginal affairs, wartime news, and whatever else he reads.
A doctorate for all seasons. Or Siri
Accounts Barambah, Taroom and Palm Island 1922
Home Secretary’s Office Batch Files
Accounts Barambah, Taroom and Palm Island 1922
A/58853
Queensland State Archives
…
15. 2.1922 Taroom people whose bank accounts are overdrawn
Albert
Alex Robinson
Alick Colli
Dave Mate Mate
Maria Davis
Mary Woods
Maud Kelly
Maud Queary
Hey, whaddya know?
Cassie of Sydney doesn’t know everything,
and Dot is a clown.
I always vote LDP where I can, so don’t blame me.
LDP preference Labor over the Liberals.
Like a Stepford wife with a short circuit.
Daily Mail.
I didn’t. I vote LDP first and Libs second. If there’s no LDP candidate in the lower house I vote Libs.