Open Thread – Tues 28 March 2023


Autumn (The Spies with the Grapes of the Promised Land), Nicolas Poussin, 1660-64

2,217 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 28 March 2023”

  1. Shy Ted Avatar
    Shy Ted

    The Nashville cops were wearing bodycams and released the footage. The Mareeba cops weren’t wearing bodycams. Said Palacechook.
    Policy

  2. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Ted Cruz Lays Into Mayorkas, and Its Glorious

    In the era of a desiccated dry f#rt of a presidency and a GOP delegation that has traditionally been so full of RINOs it could qualify as a wildlife preserve, it is refreshing and heartening to see a Republican decide he has had it eyeball-high with this administration’s play-acting, take out his spine and use it to take a bureaucrat to school.

    Such was the case during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on border security. Ted Cruz channeled his inner Popeye the sailor and pretty much said: “I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.”

    He proceeded to take DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas to the proverbial woodshed. Specifically, Cruz made Mayorkas face the music over the trafficking of children that is so prevalent at the southern border. According to Fox News, Cruz said:

    Mr. Secretary, I want to say to you right now, your behavior is disgraceful. And the deaths, the children assaulted, the children raped, they are at your feet. And if you had integrity, you would resign. The men and women of the Border Patrol, they’ve never had a political leader undermine them. They despise you, Mr. Secretary, because you’re willing to let children be raped to follow political orders. This is a crisis. It’s a disgrace. And you won’t even admit this human tragedy as it is a crisis.

    You can view the most dramatic part of the exchange below. It is all worth watching, but I suggest checking out the portion that begins at 8:56. (Yes, there will probably be an embedded ad. Use the skip button when it comes up.)

  3. Robert Sewell Avatar

    Another US train derailment?
    Perhaps some money used as maintenance would be a good idea? Unless of course it’s deliberate sabotage.
    So what’s the problem?

  4. John H. Avatar
    John H.

    dover0beachsays:
    March 29, 2023 at 2:34 pm
    I find the “I’m not religious, I’m spiritual” shtick ludicrous. As far as I’m concerned, spirituality comes from religious belief.

    Indeed. Distinguishable but inseparable.

    Which religious beliefs? Do religions differ in understanding about spirituality?

  5. calli Avatar
    calli

    Hmmm…testing…tap…tap…tap…

  6. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Decline in American Values Is the Defining Trait of the Obama Generation

    The Wall Street Journal released a poll over the weekend showing, in stark relief, how the values of individual Americans have changed in 25 years. Many pundits have written this week on the implications for the survival of a nation that no longer views itself as exceptional, a society in which most people don’t believe in a higher power beyond themselves, and a world in which the ideas of community involvement and having children no longer inspire citizens to do something larger than their individual concerns.

    Make no mistake: this decline in American values has its roots in a lot of bad ideas over several decades but really gained its full flower in the Obama generation.

    We now inhabit a nation almost a full generation removed from the famous campaign promise from President Barack Hussein Obama, on Oct. 30, 2008: “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America!”

    It’s downright painful to compare the America of today to the USA of Sept. 12, 2001, but this is a reckoning every patriot must face head-on. Vodkapundit had a great take on this in his column yesterday, “Is GenX the Last Generation of Americans?“

    COVID and the resulting state-sponsored fracturing of American civility seems to have accelerated the trend lines. Lockdowns vs. liberty, masks vs. faces, mandates vs. adult choices, public educators vs. everybody — if there weren’t two Americas before March 2020, it certainly feels now like there are at least that many.

    Absolutely spot-on. The state-sponsored fracturing of American civility (among other civic values) accelerated the trend lines — but those trend lines have deeper roots. We simply noticed them more starkly in the pandemic crisis and our insane response to it. There remains no doubt, however, that we have taken divergent paths.

    Indeed, the pandemic panic and willful suspension of constitutionally guaranteed natural rights could not have happened without Obamaism having replaced Americanism as our defining national trait.

    Contrary to the (duplicitous) Clinton declaration of the end of big government, Obamaism ushered in every deleterious effect of Big Government that we see today.

    Of course, some things got their start in the Bush administration, like the expansion of the surveillance state in the War on Terror and TARP. Thank goodness the Patriot Act could never be weaponized against American citizens, amirite?

    So what has Obamaism wrought?

    – The weaponization of Big Government against domestic political opponents: ✅

    – The suspension of individual liberties under the pretense of a national emergency: ✅

    – The expansion of government intervention into private health care decisions: ✅

    – The ever-advancing erosion of the family unit: ✅

    – The reliance on government over individual responsibility for most decisions in one’s daily life: ✅

    – The decline of belief in American exceptionalism: ✅

    – Undermining American sovereignty in the name of equity, globalism, and the interests of illegal aliens: ✅

    – The notion that government has rights and that they exceed those of the individual citizen: ✅

  7. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Thanks, Gilas. About what I thought.

  8. calli Avatar
    calli

    If I get the “I’m spiritual” remark, I always ask “which spirit are you in touch with?”.

    Always a relief if it’s only the gin bottle. Anything else is a worry.

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  9. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Useful page just worked with ✅ above

    https://www.copyandpastesymbols.net/check-symbol.html

    copy and paste Dec Code

  10. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    She’s waiting for a spot on the Voice – President will do – to open up.

    I’m presuming the lady will have no difficulty reversing her earlier policy of not supporting the Voice, in favor of a treaty, in order to accept such a position?

  11. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “…Simulating a complex system, even simplified, while keeping just 4 independent parameters constant. produces significant incremental errors after << 100,000 iterations…"

    It’s worse than we thought.

    Had they bothered to compare their GAST estimate from their mega-DoF, CO2 belching, supercomputer requiring model against a trivial, single DoF model that only forecasts based on CO2 concentration, and can be run in seconds on a desktop PC, they might have noticed that the result was near identical.

    KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid!)

    But I guess there’s no money in that, is there?

  12. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Yet we are expected to believe that 3D circulation climate models, with dozens of changing, DEPENDENT parameters, in an even more chaotic system, can accurately predict weather or climate

    yep

    a couple of decades ago I was responsible for writing a program to make a large mirror predict and track the sun. Borrowed some Ephemeris code from the Jet Propulsion Lab for predicting sun location and this data was then used to drive some motors to position the mirror.

    accuracy was critical and the thing was, everything had errors.
    wee sinusoidal ones.
    and it was difficult to tell where they came from. Was the ephemeris correct? encoder readings wrong, translation of mirror co-ord system into real-world system wrong? Floating point problems?

    my forum handle (MT) comes from how I mathematically dealt with the 3D space problem and
    the outcome was that although the real-time 3D rotational matrices were the actual fix, they added even more rounding errors. So I had rewrite everything to get around that too.

    all of that was pre -64bit FLOPS … diabolical problem.

    these days they do short-term weather pretty well with guesses using GFS or ECMWF but I’m still suss on a plethora of climate models that point at any one of hundreds of imagined Thermageddon futures.

    … and their predictions so far don’t match real world measurements

    incidentally, Captain Cook did his own calcs using log tables and a pencil and got pretty damn close

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  13. areff Avatar
    areff

    The Yugo was much maligned but $3000 total cost off the showroom floor was a plus. The next cheapest car at the time (a couple of years later actually) was High Undies’ base model at $7000. You get what you pay for — and for the money it wasn’t bad value. You could do most of the work yourself, as it was basically a Sixties-era Fiat. Mind you, I have a soft spot for Fiats and the Yugo benefits from that affection.

    I took care of one for about four months while it’s owner was overseas and didn’t want his runabout car, which he’d bought for peanuts secondhand, sitting unattended in the driveway of a weekend cabin. Finish was appalling — leaks, wind whistling through door gaps and holes in the firewall. Joining freeway traffic was a heart-in-mouth exercise since the 0-60 took about 24 seconds, and it couldn’t get over 80mph except maybe down hill.

    Malcolm Bricklin, who imported Yugos, had formerly launched Subaru in the US. He maintained that, if Yugoslavia hadn’t devolved into a land of warring wogs, the quality control issues would have been settled — including the need for far-too-frequent servicing/replacement of timing gear. Let that go and you’d stuff the engine in a heartbeat. Bricklin knew all the deficiencies and, had the wars not erupted, insisted he would have had a viable competitor for the genuinely awful Chevette

    Thing is, at that time, for $3000 you could have bought a genuinely great car (secondhand) : the AMC all-wheel-drive Eagle, now, like AMC, sadly gone to God.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcdRVWFwb1I

  14. calli Avatar
    calli

    Okay. What about ? ?

  15. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Speaking of decline and Obama, Michelle has the angry look to her these days of a woman who isn’t ageing as elegantly as her husband. The pictures of her in Sydney would scare a butcher out of a butcher’s shop.

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  16. calli Avatar
    calli

    Harrumph! Those check symbols are as boring as a ledger page. I wanted a grinning cat and got nothing.

  17. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Speaking of decline and Obama, Michelle has the angry look to her these days of a woman who isn’t ageing as elegantly as her husband. The pictures of her in Sydney would scare a butcher out of a butcher’s shop.”

    I’ve been thinking the same C.L. She always has a mean, angry look on her face.

  18. C.L. Avatar
  19. Robert Sewell Avatar

    Old Ozzie:
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  20. Robert Sewell Avatar

    Nope. The other ones don’t work.

  21. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    I have never understood what people mean by “spirituality”.

    Spirituality is religion minus the morality plus an extra dose of superstition.

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  22. Zatara Avatar
    Zatara

    Another observation about those Nashville bodycam videos. Note the apparent planning, training and drills the school itself had done in preparation for such an incident and the courage of the school administration during it.

    Look closely at what’s going on besides the action figures and you will see empty rooms and hear a loud siren going off.

    So within seconds of the shooter breaking into the building the warning sirens were activated. Within moments all but 3 extremely unfortunate students and possibly a substitute teacher who were likely caught out of position or slow to react, the classrooms and hallways were empty and the vulnerable were nowhere for the shooter to find even though she had attended that school and presumably knew the layout and the drills.

    The school Principle and a custodian appear to have voluntarily risked their lives to face down or delay the shooter and were sadly killed by her.

    Again, impressive.

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  23. Steve trickler Avatar
    Steve trickler

    C.L.says:
    March 29, 2023 at 3:02 pm
    Speaking of decline and Obama, Michelle has the angry look to her these days of a woman who isn’t ageing as elegantly as her husband. The pictures of her in Sydney would scare a butcher out of a butcher’s shop.

    It has a penis.

    Take a look at it on the Ellen Degenerate show. They are not folds in the pants.

    3:59

    https://tinyurl.com/3hyrf8fh

  24. Robert Sewell Avatar

    ZK2A:

    I’m presuming the lady will have no difficulty reversing her earlier policy of not supporting the Voice, in favor of a treaty, in order to accept such a position?

    Nope.
    Hypocrisy is a White Mans social construct.
    There’ll be none of that cultural appropriation here, uncle.
    🙂

  25. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Steve tricklersays:
    March 29, 2023 at 3:22 pm

    Ive got another theory on the surprisingly girthy vagina of Mrs Obama.

    She was probably using one of these.

  26. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    ¼
    Fractions

    Those usually work straight off the MS Character Map thingie.

    Speaking of decline and Obama, Michelle has the angry look to her these days of a woman who isn’t ageing as elegantly as her husband. The pictures of her in Sydney would scare a butcher out of a butcher’s shop.

    Apparently Sydney has embraced the Obamas like a man drowning in the desert or something.
    See RH bottom of the Terror front page today.

  27. Steve trickler Avatar
    Steve trickler

    Stew Peters Show:

    DEMENTED Biden Calls For GUN BAN: Transgender TERRORIST MURDERS Christians At School

    Trans people aren’t just delusional, they are demonic and Stew has the proof.
    Chris Dorr is here to talk about how gun free zones and soft targets attract crazies who want to maim and kill innocent children.
    The Biden administration and Democrats want to disarm their political opposition.
    It’s time for gun owners to go on offense and pass all of the pro-gun laws that we can.
    We are reaping the rotten fruits of a system that has stripped God and morality out of public life
    Mass media and government institutions that constantly praise and promote LGBTQ have emboldened trans terrorists.
    Joe Biden was a total embarrassment when he blabbered about ice cream instead of the 6 dead Christians slaughtered by a trans terrorist.
    The States must embrace the power of the 10th Amendment and be prepared to resist federal gun tyranny.

    https://tinyurl.com/mrymj9nr

  28. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    Maybe this will work…
    via GIPHY

  29. John H. Avatar
    John H.

    DrBeauGansays:
    March 29, 2023 at 3:21 pm
    I have never understood what people mean by “spirituality”.

    Spirituality is religion minus the morality plus an extra dose of superstition.

    Good attempt Doc. Most religious people will not like that. Some Zen people will agree but whether or not Zen is a religion is a topic for another million pointless essays.

    The truly religious man has nothing to do but go on with his life as he finds it in the various circumstances of this worldly existence. He rises quietly in the morning, puts on his dress and goes out to his work. When he wants to walk, he walks; when he wants to sit, he sits. He has no hankering after Buddhahood, not the remotest thought of it. How is this possible? A wise man of old says, ‘If you strive after Buddhahood by any conscious contrivances, your Buddha is indeed the source of eternal transmigration.’

    Rinzai(who ironically spent decades chasing the myth of satori but at least he realized how wrong he was)

    If you can’t find it where you’re standing, where do you expect to wander in search of it?

    Unknown Zen dude.,

    How wondrous this, how mysterious
    I carry fuel, I draw water!

    Attributed to the probably mythical Pang Zen master.

  30. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “He rises quietly in the morning, puts on his dress and goes out to his work. “

    I dunno, sounds kinda TRANS-cendental if you ask me.

    Then again, as the Buddhist said to the hotdog vendor: make me one with everything.

  31. calli Avatar
    calli

    Attributed to a known king of Israel:

    “I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.” Psalm 139:14

    Very, very similar to the Zen master. I like the sense of wonder.

  32. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    Rinzai(who ironically spent decades chasing the myth of satori but at least he realized how wrong he was)

    Satori is suddenly realising that the world is a wonderful place and that being alive in it is miraculous.

  33. Steve trickler Avatar
    Steve trickler

    He’s a good man. I like how he correctly refers to “carbon dioxide” and not “carbon” like all the other brainwashed morons. It’s the little things that count.

    Humans and animals to not exhale soot.

    ——–

    Malcolm Roberts:

    This week the Safeguard Mechanism Bill will pass after a dodgy Labor deal with the Greens and David Pocock.

    More than 200 of the largest companies in this country will have to cut their production. There’ll be less electricity, less essential goods and they’ll all be more expensive.

    Just remember, you are the carbon they want to reduce.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZsuBa5-Z38

  34. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    Almost snap, calli.

  35. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    My absolute favourite – especially in these times – is John 1:5

    “The Light shineth in the darkness, and the darkness understandeth it not.”

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  36. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Way back in the mid-1980s, communist Yugoslavia exported the Yugo

    We had a Yugo as our means of transport for a surf trip through SW France and northern Spain in the mid 90s. Handling was a bit squirrelly in the Pyrenees.

  37. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    “The shooter has been identified by his deadname.”

    Well, she is dead.

  38. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    Here Calli, start here:
    https://quantumtocosmos.ca/#/scale?value=26.889999999999997
    which shows the size of the observable universe at about 8 * 10^150m , and you can then zoom in (+ in bottom right corner) with suitable objects to give an idea of scale all the way to 10^-34m (Plank length).
    Each second click zoom in/out is an order of magnitude difference (10x).
    Notice how many clicks you need just to see a human, and then how much smaller you can go.
    God is a very clever fellow – and this peak at what He has created is mind-boggling.

  39. calli Avatar
    calli

    That’s really something, kneel. What’s interesting is the size of the gaps.

  40. Razey Avatar
    Razey

    The truly religious man has nothing to do but go on with his life as he finds it in the various circumstances of this worldly existence. He rises quietly in the morning, puts on his dress and goes out to his work. When he wants to walk, he walks; when he wants to sit, he sits. He has no hankering after Buddhahood, not the remotest thought of it. How is this possible? A wise man of old says, ‘If you strive after Buddhahood by any conscious contrivances, your Buddha is indeed the source of eternal transmigration.’

    One thing about Buddhism that never made sense was that they suggest that one must kill all desire as desire leads to suffering. Yet you need to have the desire to eliminate suffering in the first place. So in effect, you cannot ever eliminate desire.

  41. Razey Avatar
    Razey

    I would suggest that ‘desire’ is integral and inseparable to the ‘self’ and basically people will either let their ‘senses’ control their desire, or let ‘reason’ control their desire. Pretty simple really.

  42. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Durham bombshell: Prosecutor unveils smoking gun FBI text message, ‘joint venture’ to smear Trump

    Special Counsel John Durham revealed he has unearthed a text message showing Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann falsely told the FBI he was not working on behalf of any client when he delivered anti-Trump research.

    Special Counsel John Durham is revealing new smoking gun evidence, a text message that shows a Clinton campaign lawyer lied to the FBI, while putting the courts on notice he is prepared to show the effort to smear Donald Trump with now-disproven Russia collusion allegations was a “conspiracy.”

    In a bombshell court filing late Monday night, Durham for the first time suggested Hillary Clinton’s campaign, her researchers and others formed a “joint venture or conspiracy” for the purpose of weaving the collusion story to harm Trump’s election chances and then the start of his presidency.

    “These parties acted as ‘joint venturer[s]’ and therefore should be ‘considered as co-conspirator[s],’” he wrote.

    Durham also revealed he has unearthed a text message showing Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann falsely told the FBI he was not working on behalf of any client when he delivered now-discredited anti-Trump research in the lead-up to the 2016 election. In fact, he was working for the Clinton campaign and another client, prosecutors say.

    The existence of the text message between Sussmann and then-FBI General Counsel James Baker was revealed in a court filing late Monday night by Durham’s team. Prosecutors said they intend to show Sussmann gave a false story to the FBI but then told the truth about working on behalf of the Clinton campaign when he later testified to Congress.

    “Jim – it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss,” Sussmann texted Baker on Sept. 18, 2016, according to the new court filing. “Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own – not on behalf of a client or company – want to help the Bureau. Thanks.”

    Prosecutors said the text message will become essential evidence at trial to show Sussmann lied to the FBI.

    You can read the court filing.

  43. John H. Avatar
    John H.

    Razeysays:
    March 29, 2023 at 4:34 pm
    The truly religious man has nothing to do but go on with his life as he finds it in the various circumstances of this worldly existence. He rises quietly in the morning, puts on his dress and goes out to his work. When he wants to walk, he walks; when he wants to sit, he sits. He has no hankering after Buddhahood, not the remotest thought of it. How is this possible? A wise man of old says, ‘If you strive after Buddhahood by any conscious contrivances, your Buddha is indeed the source of eternal transmigration.’

    One thing about Buddhism that never made sense was that they suggest that one must kill all desire as desire leads to suffering. Yet you need to have the desire to eliminate suffering in the first place. So in effect, you cannot ever eliminate desire.

    That is more Hinyana\Tibetan\Theravada Buddhism. Zen is more like a proto-psychology than religion. Of course, opinions vary and Zen is practised in many different ways. I prefer D.T. Suzuki but most Zen fans don’t even read him and probably don’t like him because he is a scholar. Alan Watts very much leaned on his books to bring Zen to the West. Even satori can be fast or slow. Another feature is fat Buddha statues, that’s not about eliminating desire. The famous story of Hakuin who upon obtaining satori spent 20 years being the town drunk. There is the well known phrase: No stone Buddhas!

  44. calli Avatar
    calli

    Thanks Gilas. I think I’ll just drop this in here on my way to the Chemist’s.

    😀

  45. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    A crucial element of Zen is understanding the limitations of natural language, with the observation that trying to capture the world in a net of words is like trying to capture an image of the moon in a lake with a fishing net.

    Of course, once you realise that there’s more to the world than our language can contain, one possible response is to improve the language. It’s called Mathematics, and it has worked well in Physics.

  46. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    I always took the “desire as desire leads to suffering” meant wanting more than you need. As far as religion goes you either believe or don’t.

  47. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    The Green Energy Agenda Increases Poverty. It Must Stop.

    The push to ditch reliable energy is out of control. Politicians are manipulating the energy market through subsidies, tax breaks, and environmental, social, and corporate governance (ESG) initiatives in regulations and government pensions.

    It’s also concerning that the “big three” investment institutions, which collectively hold over $20 trillion in assets, too often coerce the companies in which they have significant investments to bend the knee to their big-government political ideology, such as complying with the Paris Climate Accord.

    Sadly, the result of this virtue signaling to prop up unreliable wind and solar comes at high costs for little benefits—if any benefits at all. And more than hemorrhaged taxpayer dollars are at stake: this green energy agenda increases poverty. It must stop.

    While the media is constantly ringing alarm bells about the always-changing climate, not enough people are alarmed by the economic trade-offs these unreliable green energy initiatives create. But that requires an honest comparison of the climate change risks versus the economic costs, both of which impact future generations.

    The International Energy Agency (IEA) finds that there were an expected 20 million more people without electricity globally, totaling 775 million people, in 2022. Many of these people are in sub-Saharan Africa, who are facing increasing hardship due to rising costs for food, fuel and other necessities. This situation is made worse by the left’s insistence on unreliable sources of energy that have forced many Europeans to use wood for stoves and heat instead of much cleaner-burning natural gas.

    Forcing some of the population to depend on energy sources that don’t work ultimately pushes them into hardship and poverty when those methods fail.

    Texas experienced this problem in a tragic way two years ago during its historic weather event of freezing temperatures and accumulations of ice and snow that left thousands without power, contributing to an estimated 246 deaths.

    Such a tragedy should never have happened in America’s energy capital, but these are gambles that politicians take when offering subsidies to unreliable variable energy providers that make it difficult for reliable thermal energy to compete, even though thermal energy is the most stable and reliable form.

    More broadly, if every signatory of the Paris Accord, including India and China, decarbonized by 2050, the temperature differentiation by 2100 would be just 0.17 degrees.

    And according to climate change activists, the cost to get there could be as much as $21 trillion through 2050.

    Businesses attempting to go green would be forced to raise their prices significantly to make a profit, a normally tough task that’s only made harder by present-day sky-high inflation. But if subsidies and other artificial means of skewing the energy market continue, then businesses that don’t receive subsidies and can’t afford to “go green” simply won’t be able to compete. This would result in a massive reallocation of resources that will contribute to less economic growth, more poverty, and less energy stability.

    Not only can over-dependence on unreliables lead to hardship, but it often counteracts the green energy innovation it wants to spur.

  48. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    It’s called Mathematics, and it has worked well in Physics.

    Thus the observation that if you can’t say it in algebra, you don’t really know what you’re talking about. Followed by the second observation that, currently, that’s almost everything.

  49. Dot Avatar

    “The shooter has been identified by his deadname.”

    Was/were.

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  50. calli Avatar
    calli

    I’ve used algebra for knitting patterns – handy when upscaling or downscaling something complex. And lots of geometry, although that’s something altogether different. There is something sublimely elegant in 3:4:5.

    I also think that unless you can fold space like a piece of paper, you ain’t goin’ nowhere. Which is probably a good thing – keep the contagion of stupid quarantined.

  51. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Having spent my entire working life as a programmer (now retired), I think this very neatly sums up the whole systems development process perfectly. Although perhaps exaggerated, users never know what they want, so programmers have to guess the solution!

    Answer To The Ultimate Question – The Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy – BBC

    Sounds like

    The Science behind AlphaGo and AlphaGo Zero

    A conceptual and friendly explanation

    Douglas Adams also knew a thing or two about programming, and in programming an asterisk is commonly used to translate to “anything you want it to be”. In ASCII, “42” is the designation for an asterisk, so in asking a computer to come up with the ultimate answer to “life, the universe and everything”, it answered as a computer would, 42 = “anything you want it to be” so on top of it being just funny and random and everything else its presented as, it actually has a deeper meaning if you know what to look for.

  52. calli Avatar
    calli

    “The shooter has been identified by his deadname.”

    Eternally pining for the fjords.

  53. John H. Avatar
    John H.

    DrBeauGansays:
    March 29, 2023 at 5:01 pm
    A crucial element of Zen is understanding the limitations of natural language, with the observation that trying to capture the world in a net of words is like trying to capture an image of the moon in a lake with a fishing net.

    Of course, once you realise that there’s more to the world than our language can contain, one possible response is to improve the language. It’s called Mathematics, and it has worked well in Physics.

    The point of koans, though albeit clumsy, was to impress upon the student the limitations of language. That’s why I regard Zen more a psychology\epistemology than a religion. Zen is the opposite of most religions because its emphasis is on the individual experience not doctrinal submission.

    There is a movie about Zen: Why has Bodhidharma left for the east. Not much dialogue, beautiful imagery but the movie was constrained by budget issues. Can’t recommend it, very few enjoy it.

    Apart from mathematics, which cannot address many of our most pressing questions, the best way to improve language is to achieve greater precision with definitions. Everyday language is a disaster for precise communication of complex topics. Wherever possible, mathematics is far more preferable.

  54. Dot Avatar

    I always took the “desire as desire leads to suffering” meant wanting more than you need. As far as religion goes you either believe or don’t.

    I think it is also about mindset, frugality and humility and it goes quite deep.

  55. Dot Avatar

    I also think that unless you can fold space like a piece of paper, you ain’t goin’ nowhere. Which is probably a good thing – keep the contagion of stupid quarantined.

    Boffins are working on that. Harold White has brought down the mass energy requirement for such exotic technologies to almost feasible levels.

  56. hzhousewife Avatar
    hzhousewife

    If I get the “I’m spiritual” remark, I always ask “which spirit are you in touch with?”.

    PSHAW………………gin all over my keyboard ! Classic!

  57. JC Avatar

    sfw says:
    March 29, 2023 at 8:08 am

    Bit of pot calling the kettle black here this morning.

    Tell me something, sfw. As a Vicpol schelp, do you ever get embarrassed telling people that you worked for that disgusting entity. Don’t say it was a job and you had to work as there’s always a choice. You could have resigned.

    What are your thoughts about some here promoting and encouraging extreme violence against others who don’t share the same opinions on politics

  58. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Albanese to invest $15bn in manufacturing.

    Looks like we’re back to government picking winners…or losers.

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  59. calli Avatar
    calli

    If you can’t reasonably eliminate desire the only viable alternative (apart from dissolution as per Dorian Gray) is to direct it.

    And therein lies the rub – for every permutation of desire you will have a guru telling you how to deal with it.

  60. calli Avatar
    calli

    dissolution = dissipation

    Although one leads to the other.

  61. Dot Avatar

    Harold White has brought down the expected mass energy requirement down from the mass of Jupiter to 2200 kg for a craft 10 m x 10 m x 10 m travelling up to an effective 10 c.

    So he brought it down by a factor of quadrillion times.

    That might be as important as the Alcubierre metric itself!

  62. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    I also think that unless you can fold space like a piece of paper, you ain’t goin’ nowhere. Which is probably a good thing – keep the contagion of stupid quarantined.

    The big problem is that motion at our scale appears to be continuous. Which means that if you want to go frm A to B, you have to go through an infinite set of points between them in which you have no interest, and would prefer not to visit. When A is on Earth and B is in the Andromeda galaxy, this takes a painfully long time no matter how fast you travel.

    Is motion continuous at the quantum level? Well, we can generally measure the velocity of things like electrons, and if motion was not continuous they wouldn’t have one. But then again, if we measure their position precisely, they hardly have a velocity. So the possibility of moving from A to B while skipping most of the intermediate points isn’t entirely out of the question.

  63. dover0beach Avatar

    One thing about Buddhism that never made sense was that they suggest that one must kill all desire as desire leads to suffering.

    It’s not far off Augustine’s observation: “Thou hast made us for thyself, O Lord, and our heart is restless until it finds its rest in thee.” Basically: earthly desire cannot be sated. Understood this way, the above makes sense.

  64. JC Avatar

    C.L. says:
    March 29, 2023 at 2:26 pm

    I never watch body-cam footage released after mass killings etc but I picked up on somebody’s Twitter page that the video didn’t include the murders or anything close-quarters gruesome.

    The resolve, focus, intelligence and commitment to sacrifice themselves for children if necessary was, quite simply, magnificent. They ought to be decorated not only by their Department but by Congress.

    I think it could be instinctive in human beings, CL. I can’t imagine a situation where a young child was in some sort of trouble and adults didn’t just jump in.

  65. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Looks like we’re back to government picking winners…or losers.

    Let’s hope Plibbers has more luck this time than that affordable housing scheme. Can’t ever accuse the Liars from lacking optimism.

  66. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Nick Jorss, who runs Bowen Coking Coal, might as well be a Greenfilth activist.

    Until fossil fuel’s useful idiots like Jorss start calling out the junk science of climate change, they deserve their fate.

    Climate change is a religious belief by haters of humanity. It has nothing to do with science or any of the rigorous systems that have delivered our civilisation or its standard of living.

    It pisses me off that the loudest voices for destroying our civilisation come from the parasites who have contributed nothing.

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  67. JC Avatar

    Basically: earthly desire cannot be sated. Understood this way, the above makes sense.

    Both Hayek and von Mises said the same thing. Human wants are unlimited. I really don’t believe that is some sort of huge revelation though.

  68. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Never let failure stand in your way.

  69. Razey Avatar
    Razey

    There is a movie about Zen: Why has Bodhidharma left for the east. Not much dialogue, beautiful imagery but the movie was constrained by budget issues. Can’t recommend it, very few enjoy it.

    One of my favorite movies.

  70. JC Avatar

    This vid came out last week or at least I saw it last week. Brave dude. Mother? Well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8VrRr_z1Ro

  71. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    I find the “I’m not religious, I’m spiritual” shtick ludicrous. As far as I’m concerned, spirituality comes from religious belief.

    Indeed. Distinguishable but inseparable.

    Words change meaning over time (but you knew that).

    “Spirituality” now most often designates a do it yourself alternative to formal religious belief* in the post-Christian West.

    * That is, one or another type of Christianity (or Judaism) expressed in dogma, an ethos, and ritual, with an ordianed ministry endued with authority.

  72. Roger Avatar
  73. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Thus the observation that if you can’t say it in algebra, you don’t really know what you’re talking about.

    Only in this frame of reference. The Bible talks about a different frame of reference. Time for example is different, possibly two dimensional.

    5 Theses on Time (27 Feb)

    I read this article a few weeks ago, it’s pretty good, but doesn’t quite capture the differences of time as it applies in the Bible. For example if you read about the almost-sacrifice of Isaac in Genesis it is totally linked to the sacrifice of Jesus.

    “I swear by myself, declares the Lord, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only sonGen 22:16

    Because Abraham didn’t withhold his only son, the Lord God Almighty didn’t either ~2,000 years later. The language and descriptive terminology in that passage is almost like there’s a time machine being used from 30 AD on Golgotha back to that place in the wilderness around about 2,000 BC

    The problem with us humans is that we don’t have sufficient comprehension, understanding nor imagination to consider other frames of reference. And if those other collections of dimensions are acting upon our own, and are interested in it, how do you think they would seek to do that? Information is the lingua franca between all dimensions, since in essence all the universe is is information, if you think about it from the point of view of a cosmologist. And what is information if not a book.

  74. calli Avatar
    calli

    I did think of Saint Augustine when I typed my desire comment, Dover.

    And I see Zero the Hero is lurking! Hi!

  75. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    Apart from mathematics, which cannot address many of our most pressing questions, the best way to improve language is to achieve greater precision with definitions. Everyday language is a disaster for precise communication of complex topics. Wherever possible, mathematics is far more preferable.

    Tightening the precision of definitions rapidly creates insiders who ‘know’ and outsiders who ‘don’t’. I saw this in Landmark; it operated like a cult for marketing itself, and the insiders ‘got it’ because they adopted the redefinition of key English words into ‘insider’ meanings.
    Two things that I found great for improving communication and focusing in on clarity of meanings were the facilitated decision analysis techniques taught at BHP Steel in the early 90’s (the book was Kepner and Tregoe “Rational Process”) and the argument mapping developed by Tim van Gelder and Paul Monk (now a web tool called Rationale Online).
    These techniques do not do well with people coming together in bad faith; intellectual charity and collegiality have rather been driven out by the politics of the last dozen years or so.

  76. calli Avatar
    calli

    If you are outside time itself, you can watch it all happening at once. You might even pop in and out of it at will.

  77. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Hahaha. The Voice is a rerun of the republic referendum.

    Trust us. We are your betters. We know what’s good for you.

    PS: You’re idiots.

    That’s why it will go down — our rulers think we’re idiots and we’re not.

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  78. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    In ASCII, “42” is the designation for an asterisk, so in asking a computer to come up with the ultimate answer to “life, the universe and everything”, it answered as a computer would, 42 = “anything you want it to be” so on top of it being just funny and random and everything else its presented as, it actually has a deeper meaning if you know what to look for.

    There’s a simpler explanation Old Ozzie.

    The clue is the Scrabble game. “What do you get when you multiply six by nine?” After which Ford says “there’re no tiles left” and Arthur says “I always knew there was something fundamentally wrong with the Universe.”

    It’s a joke from primary school, about 3rd class, since when you’re learning the times tables it’s easy to get 6 x 7 and 6 x 9 confused…

  79. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Senator Thorpe: I want to acknowledge the traditional owners and custodians of the lands—

    Senator Hughes: How many times has that happened today?

    It’s honestly just like the endless “Heil Hitler” in Jo Jo Rabbit and much much more absurd.

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  80. Razey Avatar
    Razey

    callisays:
    March 29, 2023 at 5:58 pm
    If you are outside time itself, you can watch it all happening at once. You might even pop in and out of it at will.

    Sweet. Can I buy that machine off ebay yet?

  81. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    The Voice is a rerun of the republic referendum.

    Is Peter Dutton one to break the heart of the nation?

  82. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Never let failure stand in your way.

    I neglected to mention there’s also $10bn for housing.

  83. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Albanese to invest $15bn in manufacturing.

    All the people who knew how to make shit are retired.

  84. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    All the people who knew how to make shit are retired.
    Rubbish

  85. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    The Australia Institute reports that Australians will have to forego their love of big utes and 4WDs if we’re to meet our 2030 emissions target, suggesting the government introduce carrot and stick measures to achieve this.

    Over to you, Elbow; shouldn’t be any trouble getting the Greens on board with this one.

  86. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    All the people who knew how to make shit are retired.

    I don’t think they mean the sort of manufacturing we used to do.

    Apparently we need to make a lot of community batteries.

    And I mean a lot.

  87. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “That’s why it will go down — our rulers think we’re idiots and we’re not.”

    Agree.

  88. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    The Australia Institute reports that Australians will have to forego their love of big utes and 4WDs if we’re to meet our 2030 emissions target

    I’d rather forego the Australia Institute myself. Don’t go anywhere near a volcano Dr Denniss, some irate pleb might cast you into it, to placate Gaia.

  89. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Munty seems to be spending a lot of time with family following his trans twerking.

  90. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “That’s why it will go down — our rulers think we’re idiots and we’re not.”

    I hope I’m proved wrong, but I can see this referendum passing, after a campaign of “Be nice to Aborigines – they weren’t classed as human beings, or recognized as citizens until the 1967 referendum, and their souls will be crushed if colonial Australians vote “NO.”.” “Always was Aboriginal land, always will be.”

  91. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    The Australia Institute reports that Australians will have to forego their love of big utes and 4WDs if we’re to meet our 2030 emissions target

    Well they would wouldn’t they. I know anal and his pubic pals in canbra want to but they’re not game to say of course and I’m not sure if they’ve worked out how.

  92. sfw Avatar
    sfw

    JC, what makes you think I was referring to you? After all, you never use gratuitous insults, never go ad hominem, you always play the ball and not the man, don’t you?

    I posted a link earlier to St Jacinda that has been disappeared. I’ll try again.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49ckcnD7IKc&t=54s

  93. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    The Australia Institute reports that Australians will have to forego their love of big utes and 4WDs if we’re to meet our 2030 emissions target

    The Ponds Institute is an endless source of humour.

    It’s just a pity that our gullible idiots, like Nein’s A Current Affair, thinks a Greenfilth thinktank like the Ponds Institute wants to destroy the free market and our standard of living.

  94. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    Closing oil refineries is a start.

  95. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    I’d rather forego the Australia Institute myself.

    A sentiment not shared by the government, which will reportedly respond within weeks.

    They might as well have commissioned the study.

  96. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    All the people who knew how to make shit are retired.
    Rubbish

    That’s why we have a burgeoning manufacturing industry…… oh wait!

  97. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    ‘It’s Not Going to End Nicely’: Chris Christie Thinks He Will Be the One to Take Down Donald Trump In 2024RINO prick-another fuking lawyer too

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